Aug. 6, 2020

Your First Time At An Abortion Center

Your First Time At An Abortion Center

Maybe you have been praying about going to the frontlines at your local abortion center to reach out but there are some fears and concerns. In this episode, Vicky and Daniel talk through what your first time out may look like and what some of the...


Maybe you have been praying about going to the frontlines at your local abortion center to reach out but there are some fears and concerns. In this episode, Vicky and Daniel talk through what your first time out may look like and what some of the challenges may be. Hopefully, this episode will help address fears that you may have.

https://sidewalks4life.com/what-to-expect-your-first-day-as-a-sidewalk-counselor/

 

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.390 Lord. I am welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. Have you 3 00:00:10.470 --> 00:00:13.949 been thinking and praying about going out to an abortion center and reaching out? 4 00:00:14.269 --> 00:00:17.309 Maybe you have some doubts and fears of what that might look like. In 5 00:00:17.429 --> 00:00:23.739 this episode we talked about that. So stay with us. Lord. I 6 00:00:24.059 --> 00:00:39.409 felt show passis touch your heart. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. 7 00:00:39.530 --> 00:00:44.369 Guys, you appreciate you listening. Appreciate you guys commenting in the reviews 8 00:00:44.770 --> 00:00:49.090 on itunes and giving us five stars if you think we deserve five stars. 9 00:00:49.130 --> 00:00:54.000 If not, then don't leave anything. All right, let's getting we've had 10 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:58.200 a barrage recently if some of the pro abortion people leaving one star reviews. 11 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.159 One told me that she could leave zero stars if that were possible, but 12 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.200 she couldn't. And so if you guys like this podcast, please help us 13 00:01:03.239 --> 00:01:07.829 out and get those reviews up and let us know. Reach out to me 14 00:01:07.870 --> 00:01:11.030 via email if there's subjects we can cover. That would encourage you to leave 15 00:01:11.030 --> 00:01:15.670 a better review for us. It's not about reviews, though. We want 16 00:01:15.709 --> 00:01:19.980 to glorify God. We want to equip you guys to be effective in sidewalk 17 00:01:21.099 --> 00:01:26.260 outreach ministry and being a voice for the voiceless and, ultimately, in proclaiming 18 00:01:26.299 --> 00:01:29.500 the Gospel. Yeah, so we want to do right and in this podcast 19 00:01:29.579 --> 00:01:32.260 I think it's going to be helpful for some folks who've been listening to our 20 00:01:32.299 --> 00:01:36.209 podcast for a while, who've been maybe even looking on facebook some social media 21 00:01:36.290 --> 00:01:38.769 stuff and gotten stirred up over the issue of abortion and you really feel like 22 00:01:38.849 --> 00:01:42.329 you need to do something about it where it takes place right, which is 23 00:01:42.370 --> 00:01:47.129 at abortion set. Yeah. Yeah, so maybe you're feeling God is maybe 24 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:49.799 even calling you that. You really are feeling like, I need to be 25 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.719 out there and but I'm terrified, I don't I don't know what I'm going 26 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.599 to face. And and so that's that's kind of the genesis of them this 27 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:00.400 podcast, as we wanted to give you a heads up, I'm what you're 28 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:04.310 going to face too. Sometimes, when we know things, in fact, 29 00:02:04.310 --> 00:02:07.989 I think always said it removed some of that fear factor. Absolutely. Yeah, 30 00:02:07.989 --> 00:02:10.870 we come in different scenarios and different stuff that we're involved in and we 31 00:02:12.069 --> 00:02:15.349 when we don't know what to expect. Right, there's all these fears and 32 00:02:15.430 --> 00:02:17.580 some of them are fears that are founded in reality and some are just simply 33 00:02:17.699 --> 00:02:22.099 not founded in reality. And so we're going to just kind of lay out 34 00:02:22.139 --> 00:02:24.620 for you guys, at least from our perspective, from our experiences, what 35 00:02:24.900 --> 00:02:30.009 is the reality of your first time at an abortion center. And so we're 36 00:02:30.050 --> 00:02:34.930 calling this podcast what to expect your first day as a sidewalk and missionary, 37 00:02:35.050 --> 00:02:38.650 what to expect your first days I walk counseling or inside, walk out reach 38 00:02:38.849 --> 00:02:43.409 right, and so we're going to jump into some of what to expect and 39 00:02:43.490 --> 00:02:46.680 we're going to start with some of very obvious point here, and that point 40 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:51.240 is kind of how we started this podcast. is you've perceived the calling. 41 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:55.080 Yeah, you've. You've read some scripture, you've heard a message, you've 42 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:59.870 seen some stuff on line and you've gotten stirred up over it, like I 43 00:02:59.949 --> 00:03:01.750 knew abortion took place, but I didn't know it was this bad of a 44 00:03:01.789 --> 00:03:06.150 problem and I should do something about it. And so you've perceived that calling. 45 00:03:06.590 --> 00:03:09.469 Maybe you read one of our favorite scriptures, proverbs thirty one, verses 46 00:03:09.509 --> 00:03:13.939 eight nine. Open your mouth for the speechless and the cause of all who 47 00:03:13.979 --> 00:03:16.860 are appointed to die. Open your mouth judge righteously, plead the cause of 48 00:03:16.860 --> 00:03:20.780 the poor and needy. Maybe you read that scripture for the first time or 49 00:03:20.979 --> 00:03:23.539 really stuck out to you for the first time, and you said I need 50 00:03:23.659 --> 00:03:27.020 to do that for these unborn children. Right. Yeah, I know. 51 00:03:27.099 --> 00:03:29.969 That's what happened to me. It wasn't just that scripture, there were many 52 00:03:30.009 --> 00:03:34.289 scriptures, but I did definitely feel, okay, I need to go check 53 00:03:34.409 --> 00:03:39.370 this out, and and I that that sense of being called and told by 54 00:03:39.449 --> 00:03:46.680 God really go, you need to go. That was accompanied with intense reluctance, 55 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:50.800 you fear. Yeah, yeah, absolutely well, one of the first 56 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:53.680 things, of course, is again filling that calling right, feeling that you 57 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:55.229 need to go and do something about it. And one of the realities is, 58 00:03:55.509 --> 00:03:59.710 I know this happened for me before I'd been out to an abortion center. 59 00:03:59.710 --> 00:04:02.509 It's like I knew abortions took place, I knew where. I didn't 60 00:04:02.509 --> 00:04:05.509 know where the clinics were, but I knew there were clinics there, abortion 61 00:04:05.629 --> 00:04:10.419 clinics, abortion centers that did these abortions. I just didn't think that they 62 00:04:10.419 --> 00:04:13.860 were in my city. Right, I think the there's somewhere else far, 63 00:04:14.020 --> 00:04:15.699 far away from me. Yes, I know it takes place, I know 64 00:04:15.779 --> 00:04:18.699 what happens, I know it happens at some places, but it didn't happen 65 00:04:18.779 --> 00:04:21.779 near me. And so for a lot of people they're stirred up there, 66 00:04:21.819 --> 00:04:25.490 grieved over what abortion do us, two little babies in the womb, but 67 00:04:25.569 --> 00:04:28.649 they don't lize there's an abortion center right down the road from their house, 68 00:04:28.810 --> 00:04:31.170 for some of them, right down the road from where they worship at their 69 00:04:31.569 --> 00:04:35.329 their church. Right. I was shocked and there's for in our city. 70 00:04:35.370 --> 00:04:40.120 Absolutely don't even know about one. Yes, so, yeah, and what 71 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:45.120 immediately happened with me, and I think this is true of almost everybody I've 72 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:47.759 ever talked to, so I think it's very important that our listeners be aware 73 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:54.430 of this, is that there was a voice doing everything in its power to 74 00:04:54.589 --> 00:04:59.629 keep us away, yeah, from that abortion center. So literally spiritual attack, 75 00:04:59.790 --> 00:05:03.269 like spiritual blindness, just in unreality that there's these abortion centers in our 76 00:05:03.350 --> 00:05:06.110 city. So I'd say you actually don't have it here on this paper. 77 00:05:06.139 --> 00:05:10.339 Vicky, of course, wrote a wonderful article which we will pose. Yeah, 78 00:05:10.379 --> 00:05:12.939 we're going to post this and maybe we'll add this in if we can 79 00:05:12.939 --> 00:05:15.620 figure out how to add it in. But you just one of the practical 80 00:05:15.740 --> 00:05:18.100 things, because we're going to get into the spiritual, of course, right. 81 00:05:18.459 --> 00:05:21.329 But one of the practical things is finding where the abortion center is. 82 00:05:21.769 --> 00:05:26.170 Good, you're going good point, and so it's very easy to do. 83 00:05:26.370 --> 00:05:30.569 Actually, just go on Google. Yeah, just go on Google and search 84 00:05:30.730 --> 00:05:33.370 abortion clinic near me and it'll be very easy to find. Typically, it 85 00:05:33.449 --> 00:05:38.199 could be a plan parenthood, it could be because there are some plan parenthoods 86 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:41.240 that don't do abortions. It could be there's a plan parenthood near you and 87 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:46.079 they don't do abortions and you can find that out. Sometimes they refer abortions 88 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.480 and it's still appropriate to go out there and reach out. But if you 89 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:53.750 can find where in your city abortions take place, that would kind of be 90 00:05:53.870 --> 00:05:57.990 the first step in going out there. Right. Yeah, exactly. Now 91 00:05:58.029 --> 00:06:00.629 we do on the sidewalks for life website have a map. If you go 92 00:06:00.790 --> 00:06:06.300 into the sidewalks for life website and you find r there's a place where get 93 00:06:06.420 --> 00:06:12.339 connected to local counselors and it's a map. It's a google map that we 94 00:06:12.420 --> 00:06:15.980 compiled some years ago and it's basically identifying where there are other people that are 95 00:06:16.019 --> 00:06:19.769 reaching out of abortion centers. So they're not people that even that we know 96 00:06:20.009 --> 00:06:25.410 they're not people that we may, we may not even agree with them theologically 97 00:06:25.410 --> 00:06:28.569 or whatever, but there are people that for in some way, somehow, 98 00:06:28.610 --> 00:06:30.569 let us know they're reaching out of an abortion center. So you can go 99 00:06:30.810 --> 00:06:35.720 on that map actually and you can find where those people are and you can 100 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:41.519 email them, you can find out where they're at again and and of course 101 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:45.519 they'll tell you where the abortion center is. But even so, Google is 102 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:48.829 a very, very easy way, yeah, to find out where these abortion 103 00:06:48.949 --> 00:06:51.269 centers are so you can know where you're headed. Do well, and and 104 00:06:51.350 --> 00:06:55.910 it's such a good idea actually, if, if this also wasn't in the 105 00:06:55.949 --> 00:06:59.430 article, but if you can find an abortion center, maybe not too far 106 00:06:59.470 --> 00:07:01.500 from you, maybe it's not the one exactly in your community, but not 107 00:07:01.699 --> 00:07:06.500 too far, where you can go and watch what happens and what if there 108 00:07:06.579 --> 00:07:11.740 is a Christian presence out there already. That is so valuable. Observing other 109 00:07:11.819 --> 00:07:16.129 people exactly really, really key, and we've encouraging time pass and podcast for 110 00:07:16.209 --> 00:07:19.050 people to come to Charlotte here. You want to come and shadow our teams. 111 00:07:19.209 --> 00:07:21.529 Yeah, you can certainly do that. Yeah. Now, so on 112 00:07:21.649 --> 00:07:25.689 the sidewalks for life website, just to mention this for you guys, if 113 00:07:25.730 --> 00:07:28.009 you go in, you'll see at the top of the page you're seeing the 114 00:07:28.089 --> 00:07:31.360 menu. It's a little menu item join the community, and if you strew 115 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:34.360 scroll down, what you'll see right away is the facebook, the sidewalks for 116 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:39.079 lies facebook page where we share the articles in the podcast and that sort of 117 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:43.000 thing. And then there's a section that says joint experience counselors in your area 118 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.430 and there's a national sidewalk counselor directory, and that's where we've gone through. 119 00:07:46.470 --> 00:07:49.670 Again, people have told us they're reaching out. It's not people that we 120 00:07:49.750 --> 00:07:54.389 necessarily know. Some of the people we do know, but they've let us 121 00:07:54.389 --> 00:07:56.709 know in some way, shape or form that they reach out on an abortion 122 00:07:56.750 --> 00:07:58.579 center. And so you can go to that map, you can click on 123 00:07:58.620 --> 00:08:01.139 the little dots there and it'll bring up who the people are in their email 124 00:08:01.139 --> 00:08:05.939 address. And we're actually working on another map that identifies where the abortion centers 125 00:08:05.980 --> 00:08:09.740 are exactly nationwide and we haven't put that out yet. So I won't focus 126 00:08:09.779 --> 00:08:15.209 on that because won't get it. Don't want to get sidetracked, but anyway, 127 00:08:15.250 --> 00:08:18.529 so practically you need to find out where these places are. But when 128 00:08:18.569 --> 00:08:22.129 you do, what are some of the things that you need to be working 129 00:08:22.250 --> 00:08:24.250 through. What are some of the thoughts you need to be having, some 130 00:08:24.290 --> 00:08:26.879 of the concerns that maybe valid or invalid, you need to consider? Yeah, 131 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:31.480 well, just get ready because guaranteed, the night before you are supposed 132 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.080 to show up at the abortion center, and I think we've said this before, 133 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.960 your kid will go through a major rebellion, the dog will vomit on 134 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:45.309 the rug, you'll fight with your husband and you'll you'll half burned down the 135 00:08:45.429 --> 00:08:48.950 kitchen, you know, forgetting it back to kids on behothing. Well, 136 00:08:50.230 --> 00:08:54.230 many things. It will happen to scare you, because there is a defense. 137 00:08:54.429 --> 00:08:56.340 Yeah, right, absolutely, talk about what that Defense Yeah, well, 138 00:08:56.659 --> 00:09:00.820 in EF FESIAN chapter six. Yeah, they're spells out for us to 139 00:09:00.980 --> 00:09:05.460 dynamic of spiritual warfare and the whole armor of God that God has equipped us 140 00:09:05.460 --> 00:09:09.019 with. Right, understand, this is a spiritual battle. It is you're 141 00:09:09.059 --> 00:09:11.049 in a spiritual battle, and not sell folks. When you're when you're coming 142 00:09:11.090 --> 00:09:16.129 against abortion, you are touching the devil's pride and joy. From the very 143 00:09:16.169 --> 00:09:20.769 beginning, the devil has sought to destroy the image of God. That's what 144 00:09:20.850 --> 00:09:24.879 abortion does. That's what happens at abortion clinic right now. Practically speaking, 145 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.559 most abortion centers. I won't say all, but in my experience, and 146 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.159 I've had, you know, a lot of experience reaching out an abortion centers, 147 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.440 talking to people that reach out an abortion centers. A day where a 148 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.029 lot of abortions are performed at abortion centers is Saturday. Saturday and it's the 149 00:09:39.190 --> 00:09:43.870 easiest day for most people to go out to an abortion center and pray and 150 00:09:43.029 --> 00:09:46.590 and be involved in some way. And so quite likely that's what will happen 151 00:09:46.669 --> 00:09:50.350 with you. You'll decide, you know, maybe a week before or whatever, 152 00:09:50.470 --> 00:09:52.379 and we kind of have a flow of things. If you go on 153 00:09:52.419 --> 00:09:56.100 the sidewalks for life site, it talks about where to start, talks about 154 00:09:56.220 --> 00:09:58.620 introduction. That we kind of got step by step there, and you guyss 155 00:09:58.620 --> 00:10:03.740 can check that out on the sidewalks for life website. But Friday night, 156 00:10:03.779 --> 00:10:07.210 Vick, he's talking about when you're preparing to go on that Saturday morning, 157 00:10:07.850 --> 00:10:13.370 something's dogs going to get hit by a car. We're just saying we when 158 00:10:13.409 --> 00:10:16.970 we experience this on a regular basis with new volunteers, we tell our new 159 00:10:18.009 --> 00:10:20.809 volunteers listen, just be warned. We're not trying to make you afraid, 160 00:10:20.169 --> 00:10:24.720 we just know from experience, and it is proven to be true over the 161 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.399 years, that if you set your heart to come out and volunteer with us, 162 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.080 there's going to be a spiritual battle, there's going to be something that 163 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.710 tries to hinder you and keep you from the sidewalk. If you can, 164 00:10:35.870 --> 00:10:37.870 by God's grace, push past it and come out right and, just like 165 00:10:37.950 --> 00:10:41.590 it says in James Chapter for resist the devil and ill flee from you. 166 00:10:41.710 --> 00:10:46.029 Yeah, that's an important dynamic. Don't let the enemy win. That doesn't 167 00:10:46.070 --> 00:10:50.059 mean if something major happens and you're not able to make it that Saturday or 168 00:10:50.139 --> 00:10:52.659 that day, that you just need to beat yourself up or whatever. You've 169 00:10:52.820 --> 00:10:56.740 given up in the devil is one. No, don't believe that lie. 170 00:10:56.940 --> 00:10:58.580 Yeah, just shoot for the next Saturday if that's how it has to be. 171 00:10:58.740 --> 00:11:03.100 But just understand this is a dynamic that you'll likely deal with. Yeah, 172 00:11:03.139 --> 00:11:05.730 and I sure did my first time coming out here. Got Really sick 173 00:11:05.970 --> 00:11:11.889 and I recovered, but I was right before the time that I was supposed 174 00:11:11.889 --> 00:11:13.450 to come out, but I was still going to use that sickness for an 175 00:11:13.490 --> 00:11:18.210 excuse and by God's grace, I didn't. God just wouldn't let me off 176 00:11:18.250 --> 00:11:24.080 the hook, and that is the antidote to these strong attacks is just show 177 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:26.679 Satan he cannot win. Yeah, you will not let him when you will, 178 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:33.230 you will be out there if at all possible. So then, so 179 00:11:33.990 --> 00:11:39.590 you get there. Yeah, you show up. And I think I've described 180 00:11:39.629 --> 00:11:43.830 it before. For me, when I was driving down the road and turning 181 00:11:45.470 --> 00:11:50.539 onto the road that the abortion center was on, it was like hitting a 182 00:11:50.659 --> 00:11:52.419 wall of evil. Yeah, it was. It was so tangible, it 183 00:11:52.539 --> 00:11:58.259 was so palpable that that evil spirit that was over that entire street in the 184 00:11:58.299 --> 00:12:03.850 closer I got, the more that that that feeling of evil. So for 185 00:12:05.090 --> 00:12:11.009 me I was just filled with terror. I was literally shaking and it was 186 00:12:11.090 --> 00:12:16.159 everything I had in me to keep driving down that street. And I say 187 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:18.600 this again not to terrify all of you, but to say this is a 188 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:22.879 very common experience. I didn't if you experience that, Daniel. Yeah, 189 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.200 I mean I still experience that now. Yeah, coming down the TROUBE drive, 190 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:31.629 and I've been coming down the troube drive fifteen years, fifteen years, 191 00:12:31.990 --> 00:12:37.669 and yet still I experience, sometimes, not always, but that I don't 192 00:12:37.669 --> 00:12:41.909 know, that just that spiritual sense. There is a battle and it's waging 193 00:12:43.190 --> 00:12:48.820 in the heavenly realm right, and I've had folks, new folks and people 194 00:12:48.860 --> 00:12:52.740 that have been coming for a while that will liken it unto going into a 195 00:12:52.860 --> 00:12:58.289 Third World country where you're dealing with major spiritual warfare. Was Demon activity at 196 00:12:58.330 --> 00:13:03.490 its height at those some of those places, and they say it feels like 197 00:13:03.690 --> 00:13:05.250 that's what it feels like. You're on the TRUBE drive. It's like stepping 198 00:13:05.330 --> 00:13:11.090 off the plane in a third world country where there's major spiritual warfare because there's 199 00:13:11.409 --> 00:13:13.639 demon activity and there are people that are worshiping demons. And that's funny. 200 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.639 In America we still have the demons here, by the way. They just 201 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.320 know how to themselves. Yeah, and Third World countries where everyone kind of 202 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.639 knows these spiritual realities. It's out there and it's blatant, it's in the 203 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:26.789 open. Well, that's how it is here on the troupe driving in front 204 00:13:26.789 --> 00:13:31.629 of your board abortion center. Quite possibly, that spiritual warfare is real. 205 00:13:31.710 --> 00:13:35.590 The Devil can't mask it there because it's literally life and death. Light in 206 00:13:35.629 --> 00:13:39.190 darkness. Yeah, and I we've had so many people coming to visit for 207 00:13:39.269 --> 00:13:43.460 the first time, our new volunteers, that have said they just could not 208 00:13:43.820 --> 00:13:52.139 imagine the the impact, that evil foreboding sense that that is there, and 209 00:13:52.419 --> 00:13:58.370 what comes out of the mouths of the opposition. It's just mind bogglingly, 210 00:13:58.490 --> 00:14:03.090 yeah, but it is. It is evil personify. Yeah, absolutely, 211 00:14:03.289 --> 00:14:07.129 you know, and we do with like we talked about the spiritual attacks, 212 00:14:07.809 --> 00:14:11.080 but then the emotional attacks, the feelings that come with that, the the 213 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:16.240 oppression that it can be felt there, and that's just driving to the place, 214 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:20.320 yeah, much less standard in front of the place, right, and 215 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.710 watching the women go in, yeah, and realizing what what they're going in 216 00:14:24.870 --> 00:14:28.789 for. Yeah, when my first time, when they began lining up, 217 00:14:30.470 --> 00:14:35.590 and there was probably at least fifteen to twenty women that began lining up and 218 00:14:35.830 --> 00:14:39.779 they had not yet opened the doors, the women had gotten out of their 219 00:14:39.899 --> 00:14:45.700 cars and they were won by one coming and lining up, and that, 220 00:14:46.059 --> 00:14:48.539 to me, brought the reality of what I was facing, yeah, to 221 00:14:50.139 --> 00:14:56.690 to the forefront and just the I became overwhelmed and felt like crying from that 222 00:14:56.809 --> 00:15:01.610 moment on. Yeah, because every one of those women had a baby inside 223 00:15:01.610 --> 00:15:05.450 of her, right, and every one of those women was was planning to 224 00:15:05.490 --> 00:15:09.279 kill that baby. That's why they were there, and it was just so 225 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.120 sorrowful. Yeah, to me to see that. So I had a very 226 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:20.720 hard time keeping that emotion in check. In fact, most of the people 227 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.110 that when they first comments, their first time, there will be a period 228 00:15:24.149 --> 00:15:28.830 where they are literally crying. Yeah, absolutely, so overwhelming. Yeah, 229 00:15:28.909 --> 00:15:33.230 and just to give you guys kind of an idea of how we do things, 230 00:15:33.269 --> 00:15:37.100 because we train him in a particular way for the reasons that we're talking 231 00:15:37.100 --> 00:15:41.059 about the emotions and the stuff that people need to they need to have time 232 00:15:41.100 --> 00:15:43.419 to process. So we do and we have it on our cities for life 233 00:15:43.460 --> 00:15:46.580 website, kind of the flow of things, but we have people for their 234 00:15:46.659 --> 00:15:50.570 first touch with US rather than doing like some kind of classroom training or some 235 00:15:50.610 --> 00:15:54.009 kind of home on training. If you want to volunteer with cities for life, 236 00:15:54.529 --> 00:15:58.370 we want you to come out in shadow a seasoned team, because we 237 00:15:58.450 --> 00:16:00.970 want you to be able to come out with people who've been out for a 238 00:16:02.090 --> 00:16:04.600 while and people who know the INS and outs of it and sort of unless 239 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:10.519 they comfortable, but at least a less intimidating scenario and just taking the emotions 240 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:12.159 of it, to feel the spiritual warfare. And so the first time you 241 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.080 come out and volunteer with us, you're just going to pray in the observed 242 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.440 you're just going to watch, you just going to take it all in, 243 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:21.149 you're going to ask questions and we're going to talk you through some of the 244 00:16:21.230 --> 00:16:23.870 basics of what you're seeing and why we're doing this, while we're doing that, 245 00:16:23.950 --> 00:16:26.870 while we're saying this, while we're saying that. But we want people 246 00:16:26.950 --> 00:16:30.990 just to be exposed, to take it in, to pray and observe. 247 00:16:30.070 --> 00:16:33.659 And maybe there's not a cities for life. There's not maybe even a sidewalk 248 00:16:33.700 --> 00:16:37.700 presents at the abortion center in your city. But still, I think probably 249 00:16:37.820 --> 00:16:42.419 the first time it's best for you used to be there, pray, observe, 250 00:16:44.059 --> 00:16:47.570 process what you're seeing. Maybe you're a person that can just step right 251 00:16:47.649 --> 00:16:51.129 out and start speaking to the moms and reach it out. Probably most people 252 00:16:51.129 --> 00:16:53.649 aren't the probably most people just need to be there for a little bit to 253 00:16:53.809 --> 00:16:57.970 take it all in and to pray through it, and that maybe the best 254 00:16:59.169 --> 00:17:02.240 first step. Go out to the abortion center and just commit. I'm going 255 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:06.039 to go out there and pray. Yeah, because that's doable for most people. 256 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:08.680 I can just stand there and pray and and just to soak in. 257 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:14.440 Yeah, just what's happening there and that that horror is real, and it's 258 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:18.390 real because it's horrific to God, and if we love God, then of 259 00:17:18.470 --> 00:17:22.309 course we're going to be horrified by that. And in one of my kind 260 00:17:22.349 --> 00:17:26.390 of guiding proverbs is proverb six, sixteen through eighteen, where it says there's 261 00:17:26.430 --> 00:17:30.339 six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination, and he 262 00:17:30.420 --> 00:17:36.299 gives a list. But one of those are hands that shed innocent blood and 263 00:17:36.539 --> 00:17:40.059 feet that make haste to run to evil. Yeah, and I think that's 264 00:17:40.099 --> 00:17:44.609 such a an apt description. Yeah, absolutely of what's happening there at the 265 00:17:44.690 --> 00:17:48.609 abortion center. So and those women as they're lining up, you're going to 266 00:17:48.730 --> 00:17:53.410 see so many different emotions in even in that. Yeah, Cru I know, 267 00:17:55.410 --> 00:17:56.690 like I said, we want people to be exposed to it, because 268 00:17:56.690 --> 00:18:00.319 there are some people that want to come in volunteer with us, and I 269 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.920 don't mean this, you know, in any kind of negative way for anybody, 270 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.240 but there are people that come out, I think, with wrong motives 271 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:08.319 sometimes, yeah, where they think, you know what, these poor innocent 272 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:11.599 women that are victims, I want to come and just be their savior. 273 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.670 Right, and you will learn very quickly and come out just one or two 274 00:18:15.710 --> 00:18:19.829 times and observe and you'll see these women aren't always just poor, innocent victims, 275 00:18:19.869 --> 00:18:22.470 right, and you think you're going to come and rescue them and save 276 00:18:22.549 --> 00:18:26.150 the day, because they're just waiting on somebody as great as you to come 277 00:18:26.190 --> 00:18:29.779 along, and the reality is they hate your guts. Yeah, and all 278 00:18:29.819 --> 00:18:32.940 you're doing is sitting out there. You're just standing there praying, right, 279 00:18:33.380 --> 00:18:37.420 and and so it kind of dispels some of the ideas, the false ideas 280 00:18:37.500 --> 00:18:41.259 that people have. Doesn't mean that some of the women that come aren't victims 281 00:18:41.299 --> 00:18:45.329 of circumstances. Some are, but many are just bound up in the selfishness 282 00:18:47.329 --> 00:18:49.890 that they to the point where they are going to take the life of their 283 00:18:49.930 --> 00:18:56.200 own child. Yeah, so helping you to understand correctly what you're facing and 284 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:00.680 just being there and taking it in is is very helpful long term. Right, 285 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.680 right, because there's going to be women that are going to be smiling, 286 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:07.880 laughing and joking like they're on the way into buy some new shoes. 287 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:10.829 Literally, is what it feels like. Then there's some that will be crying 288 00:19:10.950 --> 00:19:15.869 or that will be uttle to gets a boyfriend may be clearly distraught. There's 289 00:19:15.910 --> 00:19:19.390 some that are very angry and you'll see, you'll see it all, and 290 00:19:19.470 --> 00:19:25.339 I think that's so important to to see, for exactly the reason that that 291 00:19:26.059 --> 00:19:30.299 you brought up, that some of these women do almost look like they're seeking 292 00:19:30.339 --> 00:19:33.339 an answer, that they want help. But I would say the vast majority 293 00:19:33.500 --> 00:19:37.299 of them don't look that way. The vast majority of them look like they 294 00:19:37.569 --> 00:19:41.089 this is something they are determined to do. Yeah, even if it's causing 295 00:19:41.210 --> 00:19:45.450 some some grief. Yeah, absolutely. I mean I know you will encounter 296 00:19:45.569 --> 00:19:48.890 situations and it's it's part of along the lines of this horror of abortion. 297 00:19:48.930 --> 00:19:52.640 Yeah, or you'll see women go in, smile on their faith, their 298 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:56.759 heads up, sometimes their middle fingers up because you're they're praying, you're out, 299 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.440 they're reaching out right and then you'll see the same woman co come out 300 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:00.799 with tears in her eyes, you can't even look you in the eyes. 301 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:07.950 Yeah, sometimes you'll see the horror abortion spelled out in a dad and a 302 00:20:07.029 --> 00:20:11.470 mom bringing their young daughter, fifteen, sixteen year old, into the abortion 303 00:20:11.589 --> 00:20:15.950 center to kill their grandchild, and it's like this is what we've become as 304 00:20:15.990 --> 00:20:21.150 a society into. The horror of abortion is is more than I don't say 305 00:20:21.269 --> 00:20:23.740 this to minimize. But it's more than than killing a child. It's the 306 00:20:23.900 --> 00:20:30.059 devastation of the family as well. Right, and and the rationalize and lie 307 00:20:30.539 --> 00:20:33.299 quite frequently why it will. Will hear all the time, while I'm not 308 00:20:33.380 --> 00:20:37.009 here for an abortion at the facility where we're at, that's all they do. 309 00:20:37.289 --> 00:20:40.609 So right now, that that's a yeah, that's something. I'm glad 310 00:20:40.650 --> 00:20:44.170 you mentioned. That something I wanted to mention that the abortion center you're at 311 00:20:44.410 --> 00:20:48.329 or that is near your house or wherever God calls you right, may not 312 00:20:48.690 --> 00:20:52.480 just do abortions. I mean, unfortunately here on the trope drive the abortion 313 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.680 center here, that's all they do. Right, twenty five to thirty babies 314 00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:59.480 die every day, six days a week here, and that's all they do 315 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:03.240 is abortions. Yeah, and so quite possibly. And so if if you 316 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:06.349 stand here and you watch the women go in, you know they're going into 317 00:21:06.390 --> 00:21:10.430 have an abortion, but quite possibly in your city maybe they're walking in and 318 00:21:10.509 --> 00:21:14.509 they're having other things done. But you can very quickly, of God will 319 00:21:14.549 --> 00:21:17.789 give you discernment, but even just natural discernment, you can very quickly tell 320 00:21:17.829 --> 00:21:19.579 who are the ones that are coming for abortions and who are the ones that 321 00:21:19.619 --> 00:21:23.339 are coming for other things. Right, and you'll see the numbers of people. 322 00:21:23.339 --> 00:21:26.579 I mean, I remember the first time, and I've shared this before 323 00:21:26.740 --> 00:21:30.500 on the podcast, the first time I ever went to an abortion center, 324 00:21:30.579 --> 00:21:33.130 which is really, really where I felt the call, in the need, 325 00:21:33.250 --> 00:21:37.569 I saw the need to do something about this issue. Was that the abortion 326 00:21:37.650 --> 00:21:41.369 center in South Charlotte here on he Bron Street, right, and they do 327 00:21:41.650 --> 00:21:45.250 things other than abortions. Yeah, but I remember it was on a Saturday 328 00:21:45.289 --> 00:21:48.519 and typically, if abortion centers do things other than abortions, they're going to 329 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:52.720 prioritize Saturdays. This is, again from experience as their abortion days, because 330 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.839 that's when a lot of these women are off of work and they'll have Saturday 331 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.200 and Sunday to recover and go back to work and back in the quote normal 332 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.230 scheme of things. Yeah, and so I remember standing there and I remember 333 00:22:03.349 --> 00:22:07.269 and I could see very clearly who it was here for an abortion and who 334 00:22:07.309 --> 00:22:10.990 was here for other things. I remember watching those women walk in and I 335 00:22:11.109 --> 00:22:14.470 just knew they were going in they had that baby in their womb, safe 336 00:22:15.029 --> 00:22:18.099 and sound. And yet I was watch those same women leave, knowing that 337 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:22.980 they left a dead baby inside. Yeah, and that reality, that horror 338 00:22:22.339 --> 00:22:26.539 and just the picture in my mind because I know what a baby looks like 339 00:22:26.619 --> 00:22:29.140 at nine weeks. I've seen ultra sounds. We've, many of us have 340 00:22:29.259 --> 00:22:30.369 seen ultra sounds. If you haven't, you can. It's very easy to 341 00:22:30.490 --> 00:22:34.369 find. But then even seeing, because you can, the victims of abortion 342 00:22:34.369 --> 00:22:37.369 and see what abortion actually does. We shouldn't shy away from that kind of 343 00:22:37.369 --> 00:22:42.730 stuff because it strikes us as offensive. It should offend us. Yeah, 344 00:22:42.890 --> 00:22:47.319 we need to be offended by the horror that we've allowed in this country. 345 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:51.359 We need to be offended by the horror of what's happening in our cities. 346 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.680 We do, you know, says that. Um, I was on the 347 00:22:55.160 --> 00:23:00.230 mobile ultratown unit here at our facility on Saturday and we had an abortion determined 348 00:23:00.430 --> 00:23:06.190 couple on board and the young man was flipping through the pamphlet that we give 349 00:23:06.309 --> 00:23:10.430 them and he came to the picture of the abortion victim, which is, 350 00:23:10.509 --> 00:23:14.380 I think a nine week Sulive we okay, an eleven week old baby, 351 00:23:14.619 --> 00:23:18.579 and he just said, is this the baby in the womb? And I 352 00:23:18.700 --> 00:23:23.380 said that's an that's a victim of abortion, that's an aborted baby, and 353 00:23:23.500 --> 00:23:27.849 he's looking at it and you could see the dawning yea in his eyes of 354 00:23:29.009 --> 00:23:32.089 what he was looking at, and I said that baby at that age is 355 00:23:32.369 --> 00:23:37.769 dismembered by the abortionist in the womb and then ripped out piece by piece, 356 00:23:37.809 --> 00:23:41.960 and I began to describe it and he just shook his head. This is 357 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.839 a man who is going to abort. Yeah, and he just shook his 358 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:51.000 head and said this is murder. Yeah. So that's what I think really 359 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:56.509 hits you. Yeah, powerfully, when you're standing there and you're seeing sometimes 360 00:23:56.630 --> 00:24:00.710 visibly pregnant women, yeah, that are going to have that baby dismembered, 361 00:24:00.789 --> 00:24:06.269 ripped out of their body, and it is. It's brutal, violent murder. 362 00:24:06.309 --> 00:24:11.619 Yeah, and it's like it's in one sense for our Christian semi sensitivities. 363 00:24:11.740 --> 00:24:15.779 Yeah, it's so horrible that we're not willing to come to terms with 364 00:24:15.859 --> 00:24:19.700 the fact that it's actually happening. It's actually happening in your city. Yeah, 365 00:24:19.700 --> 00:24:25.490 it's actually happening you fifteen minutes from where you go to church service. 366 00:24:25.609 --> 00:24:29.250 That possibly? I mean that's what really struck me is I'm standing there in 367 00:24:29.250 --> 00:24:33.369 front of that abortion center on he Bron Street and the Lord really spoke to 368 00:24:33.490 --> 00:24:37.369 my heart very strongly. A hundred feet from where you're standing, babies are 369 00:24:37.529 --> 00:24:44.039 dying right now. Yeah, because we kind of put that off and put 370 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:48.440 these these horrible things, these atrocities. It take place in human culture. 371 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:52.549 Yeah, to things that happen in the past and so overwhelming. ME. 372 00:24:52.630 --> 00:24:56.109 Don't need to so overwhelming, we don't need to do with it because, 373 00:24:56.109 --> 00:24:59.309 after all, it's not happening right now in the time and age that I'm 374 00:24:59.390 --> 00:25:02.549 in. And the fact is, guys, it is happening. Yeah, 375 00:25:02.670 --> 00:25:07.380 it is happening for many of you, literally less than an hour away from 376 00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:11.380 where you live, most people, some people thirty minutes, fifteen minutes away 377 00:25:11.380 --> 00:25:15.579 from where you live. It's really happening and we have to process the horror 378 00:25:15.660 --> 00:25:18.059 what's happening. And I think really, and I'll say this, I don't 379 00:25:18.099 --> 00:25:23.970 believe every Christian is called to go out and and be inside, walk out, 380 00:25:23.970 --> 00:25:27.289 reach out an abortion center. Now to believe that, I do believe 381 00:25:27.329 --> 00:25:30.569 that every Christian should be exposed to it. Yeah, every Christian should go 382 00:25:30.569 --> 00:25:33.930 out there at least once, I would say more than once. Now, 383 00:25:33.970 --> 00:25:37.279 I'm not saying that not every Christian is called to do something about this issue. 384 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:41.119 We are all called to do something about all called to speak about it 385 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:44.880 and to speak with others about it and, where it's possible, to stop 386 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.759 it. I want to tell you another story from Saturday which I think fits 387 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.750 in sort of here, is there was a group of prayer walkers going around 388 00:25:52.950 --> 00:25:56.910 the street that the abortion centers on and I was standing by the mobile ultrasound 389 00:25:56.910 --> 00:26:02.670 unit and a woman came up to me in tears and and hugged me. 390 00:26:02.710 --> 00:26:06.420 Yeah, and said thank you so much for what you're doing. And I 391 00:26:06.500 --> 00:26:10.740 knew that that this woman had a story and said I you've got a story, 392 00:26:10.859 --> 00:26:12.619 don't you? She said yes, I said so do I, and 393 00:26:14.140 --> 00:26:18.450 she said how I wish there had been someone like you here when I had 394 00:26:18.569 --> 00:26:22.250 my abortion. So I think I want to be sure to throw that in, 395 00:26:22.369 --> 00:26:26.009 because so far we're painting a very bleak and different picture, and it 396 00:26:26.170 --> 00:26:32.809 is, it is, but there there's a purpose that God has sent us. 397 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:37.279 They're absolutely not just to observe horror, yeah, but to in some 398 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.440 way deal with that horror. Yeah, I mean and maybe have to process 399 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.799 and we have to come to terms with the reality that this horror of abortion 400 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:49.309 is happening in our cities, not some other time, not some other plays, 401 00:26:49.670 --> 00:26:55.069 not just in California, just in New York. It's happening all across 402 00:26:55.069 --> 00:26:57.670 America. Yeah, but we also have to come to terms with the fact 403 00:26:57.670 --> 00:27:03.859 that there is a solution to this problem and his name is Jesus. Yeah, 404 00:27:03.299 --> 00:27:07.619 and he's in you, if you're a Christian. Jesus says, I 405 00:27:07.859 --> 00:27:10.980 will be with you and I will be in you. He is. I 406 00:27:11.019 --> 00:27:15.809 don't say that in some trite, some kind of just flippant way, some 407 00:27:15.049 --> 00:27:18.769 cliche. Jesus is a solution to a problem. I say that with absolute 408 00:27:18.849 --> 00:27:26.250 conviction. It's true. Jesus Christ and his Gospel is the solution to the 409 00:27:26.410 --> 00:27:30.440 problem of abortion. And you have, if you're a Christian, him in 410 00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.759 you. You've got his word, you've got the Gospel, which is the 411 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:38.079 power of God to salvation for these women who have not yet experienced salvation. 412 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.599 So you can have hope. Yes, we come to grips. I listen. 413 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.309 As Christians, we need to come to terms with the reality that there 414 00:27:45.509 --> 00:27:51.069 is a hell, right, that's a hard reality. And eternity, not 415 00:27:51.269 --> 00:27:55.630 just separated from God, but an eternity under the wrath of God. Yeah, 416 00:27:55.710 --> 00:27:59.619 that is a biblical reality that we need to come to terms with that 417 00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:04.900 horror of eternal damnation in hell needs to be something we do the best we 418 00:28:04.980 --> 00:28:10.500 can to wrap our minds around and let that horror fuel our activity, to 419 00:28:10.619 --> 00:28:14.329 go into the hedges in the highways and compel people to come in, because 420 00:28:14.369 --> 00:28:18.730 Jesus offers his appeal of salvation to everyone who would come. Yeah, and 421 00:28:18.930 --> 00:28:22.569 these women, if they are there to kill their chired, that child, 422 00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:26.160 they are in rebellion against God. And, while we've said this before, 423 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:32.000 abortion is not the unpardonable sin, but if you don't repent from the severity 424 00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.519 of the sin and recognize the severity of that sin, your soul is in 425 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.559 danger. Yeah, absolutely, Yes, no doubt. And so the totality 426 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.990 of the picture, the horror abortion, where it leads to it, shouldn't 427 00:28:42.029 --> 00:28:48.109 stifle us. It should actually motivate us right to know that the solution is 428 00:28:48.269 --> 00:28:51.029 in us. We're not the solution, that's right. We're not so smart 429 00:28:51.069 --> 00:28:55.069 and so great and so special that we're the solution, but Jesus in us. 430 00:28:55.190 --> 00:28:56.099 He is the solution. So I want encourage you guys with that. 431 00:28:56.180 --> 00:29:00.220 Don't get stifled by some of the things that we're saying. Yeah, be 432 00:29:00.339 --> 00:29:03.940 encouraged that Jesus in you can be the solution. Yeah, which is why 433 00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:08.299 we are a Gospel centered prolife podcast and we are a Gospel Centered Ministry also 434 00:29:08.380 --> 00:29:14.009 because we know that of ourselves. There's lots of people that you can argue 435 00:29:14.049 --> 00:29:18.650 without at the abortion center from a scientific or humanistic point of view and the 436 00:29:18.769 --> 00:29:22.569 it will not change their heart at all. But if you can bring the 437 00:29:22.690 --> 00:29:26.519 truth of Jesus, of the Gospel and of the only real hope that there 438 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.119 is, that can truly change when it's going to happen. Soolutely are. 439 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:34.480 So up until this point we've talked about maybe just you going out for your 440 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.829 first time, you standing out, they're praying and just observing the women going 441 00:29:38.869 --> 00:29:41.150 in. But there's some other things that could be taken place there too, 442 00:29:41.230 --> 00:29:45.069 and we want you guys to be aware of those things. So I'm encouraging 443 00:29:45.150 --> 00:29:48.630 things, I'm not so encouraging things, and one of those things is maybe 444 00:29:48.670 --> 00:29:52.509 there is a sidewalk team there, maybe there are Christians, they're reaching out. 445 00:29:52.589 --> 00:29:56.740 Yeah, however imperfect they might be doing it, however not like you 446 00:29:56.819 --> 00:29:59.299 think it ought to be done, because be aware that there are some people 447 00:29:59.299 --> 00:30:02.460 that are going to be doing things that maybe you don't agree with. Probably, 448 00:30:02.539 --> 00:30:06.019 if you came here to Charlotte and you observed us, we'd be doing 449 00:30:06.099 --> 00:30:07.130 some things, maybe saying some things. You'd be like, well, why 450 00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:11.170 do they say that? Right, that could be taken place. There could 451 00:30:11.170 --> 00:30:12.609 be some folks just reaching out, just like you think the ought to. 452 00:30:14.210 --> 00:30:17.009 Either way, maybe there are some folks that are reaching out of the abortion 453 00:30:17.130 --> 00:30:19.410 center and you can take that in and observe that and just see how they 454 00:30:19.490 --> 00:30:23.200 interact and just see what God's doing out there. Listen to what they say. 455 00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:26.559 How long do they have to say it? You know a lot of 456 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:29.119 people come and say I'm going to share the Gospel. Well, you the 457 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.559 reality is you got ten seconds, maybe, if you're lucky, maybe fifteen, 458 00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:33.799 and no one's going to share the Gospel in that amount of time. 459 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.190 But there are some effective things that you can call out and yeah, and 460 00:30:37.430 --> 00:30:41.950 watching people that are seasoned. They they kind of been out there a while. 461 00:30:41.029 --> 00:30:45.589 They know from experience what is effective and what is not. That's a 462 00:30:45.670 --> 00:30:48.829 very good use of your time the first time that you're at yeah, and 463 00:30:48.910 --> 00:30:52.180 that's how we do things. When people first come out and we ask them, 464 00:30:52.299 --> 00:30:55.660 we'd say pray and observe you really are good about this, telling them, 465 00:30:55.700 --> 00:30:57.019 Hey, just listen to what she's saying. Just listen and what she's 466 00:30:57.059 --> 00:31:00.259 saying. And of course we do the three talking points thing. If you 467 00:31:00.299 --> 00:31:03.890 guys haven't heard that, please go. I mean we've done podcast about it, 468 00:31:03.970 --> 00:31:07.250 we've talked about it in our podcast. We do it. We talked 469 00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:10.930 about in our training. We wrote an article. I wrote an article months 470 00:31:10.930 --> 00:31:14.369 and months ago, last year sometime, about the three talking points for sidewalk 471 00:31:14.450 --> 00:31:17.690 counselors. And basically it's what God says about this, so what God says 472 00:31:17.690 --> 00:31:19.599 about abortion, that it's wrong. What God says about the baby, the 473 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.960 mom, so what God says. And then it's the humanity of the baby. 474 00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.119 Your baby has a heart that's already beating. Your baby is a unique 475 00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.319 human being. And then the resources that are available. There's a pregnancy center 476 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.390 down the road, there's a mobile unit right here, there's doctors that will 477 00:31:33.390 --> 00:31:37.349 see you free of charge, whatever resources are available there, and you might 478 00:31:37.390 --> 00:31:40.789 not yet know these things, but these are three talking points that we use 479 00:31:41.190 --> 00:31:45.029 and, just like you mentioned the fifteen seconds you might have, you can 480 00:31:45.109 --> 00:31:48.859 put all of these things in a fifteen second spel. I guess you could 481 00:31:48.859 --> 00:31:52.619 say, and if you're going to observe us, you're going to listen into 482 00:31:52.660 --> 00:31:55.019 what our counselors are saying, you're going to pick up on these three talking 483 00:31:55.059 --> 00:31:57.339 points and they're just good. I think they're just good talking points. Yeah, 484 00:31:57.740 --> 00:32:01.690 so that's what you will hopefully be able to have that somewhere near you 485 00:32:01.809 --> 00:32:07.289 where you could go and observe that. The you're of course going to see 486 00:32:07.289 --> 00:32:09.690 the abortion determined women there and you're going to see most of them have, 487 00:32:10.009 --> 00:32:14.569 not most. Good number of them, though, have friends or a driver 488 00:32:14.690 --> 00:32:16.240 or the boyfriend with them. Yeah, and then you're going to see the 489 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:21.599 opposition, and they're pretty much is some sort of opposition. I think it 490 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.599 at every abortion center, even if it's just the security people. Yeah, 491 00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:30.990 yeah, I mean here it Charlotte, and probably all of the abortion centers, 492 00:32:30.990 --> 00:32:35.109 at some point there's some pro abortion opposition, some clinic escort people. 493 00:32:35.309 --> 00:32:37.069 Right in. The escorts are the ones that they take them from the car 494 00:32:37.549 --> 00:32:40.750 to the clinic, kind of hiding them from us. Yeah, they use 495 00:32:40.869 --> 00:32:44.980 umbreller whatever, I feel something. They call themselves as scorts, right. 496 00:32:45.019 --> 00:32:47.940 Yeah, and then maybe you'll have some what they call themselves counter protesters that 497 00:32:49.019 --> 00:32:51.779 are be counteracting. We did a whole podcast about that. So we're going 498 00:32:51.819 --> 00:32:53.859 to get not going to give them too much airtime, but that might be 499 00:32:53.980 --> 00:32:58.769 something you experience, right and you have since in that spiritual battle there, 500 00:32:58.849 --> 00:33:01.289 that these people are really there, deceive their blind like we talked about in 501 00:33:01.329 --> 00:33:06.329 that previous podcast, and they need the Lord, and that's a prayer point. 502 00:33:06.769 --> 00:33:08.650 You can be praying for those people and it helps you really, I 503 00:33:08.849 --> 00:33:15.039 think, to see the battle lines are real again, not against them. 504 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.160 Are Wars, not against the pro abortion people, are wars against the not 505 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.839 flesh and blood, but principalities, these demonic powers, and so you'll you'll 506 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.470 experience some of that. You mentioned about security workers. So at some abortion 507 00:33:28.549 --> 00:33:31.670 centers that I've been to, who don't necessarily have counter protesters or clinic guest 508 00:33:31.750 --> 00:33:36.430 courts, they typically do have security guards. Yeah, and so you might 509 00:33:36.750 --> 00:33:37.750 have some of those folks here. We have those here. We have a 510 00:33:37.869 --> 00:33:42.980 mixed bag of everything here and they're out here. If a car stops to 511 00:33:43.059 --> 00:33:45.380 take our information in the driveway, they come and tell them to keep moving. 512 00:33:45.940 --> 00:33:50.220 A lot of times we don't get distracted in conversations with those people. 513 00:33:50.380 --> 00:33:52.619 They hear the truth. They hear the Gospel Bias Mate as Moses. But 514 00:33:52.740 --> 00:33:55.809 just be aware there might be some opposition there, there might be some security 515 00:33:55.809 --> 00:34:00.970 guards there and it's good to have a head up on these things, right. 516 00:34:00.049 --> 00:34:05.769 And they're they're typically not there to protect you. Just to just to 517 00:34:05.809 --> 00:34:08.090 let you know. It does say security usually on that shirt, but it 518 00:34:08.289 --> 00:34:13.360 is not for your security, it is it is to for the security that 519 00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:17.159 the abortion agenda goes forward and they usually make sure that you stay off of 520 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:24.429 the property. That and the that the pro abortion group has full range to 521 00:34:24.510 --> 00:34:29.269 do what they want to do to block your voice, but that you are 522 00:34:29.909 --> 00:34:35.110 really kept as silent and as far away as possible. That's kind of the 523 00:34:35.269 --> 00:34:38.260 yes, kind of their role there to secure the perimeter. And some people 524 00:34:38.340 --> 00:34:43.780 call them death scorts, right, but anyone, they usually are. I 525 00:34:44.099 --> 00:34:45.940 must say. I think this is important for you to know in cases, 526 00:34:45.980 --> 00:34:49.940 especially if you come with young children to mourn them, because some of you 527 00:34:50.019 --> 00:34:53.090 will, is that you will hear some very colorful language. Yeah, we 528 00:34:53.289 --> 00:34:58.210 honestly do, and and I hate that that's true, but it is true. 529 00:34:58.449 --> 00:35:04.730 I mean the reality is that most of the opposition had have potty mouths 530 00:35:04.889 --> 00:35:08.440 and and very can be very used very vile words. They'll be cussing you. 531 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:13.519 So I wanted to read this verse because I think it's a an edifying 532 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:15.920 verse for that issue, because you will face it. And it's psalm sixty 533 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.800 four, one hundred and twenty three. Here my voice. So God, 534 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:24.269 in my complaint, preserve my life from dread of the enemy, hide me 535 00:35:24.389 --> 00:35:29.349 from the secret plots of the wicked, from the throng of evildoers who wet 536 00:35:29.389 --> 00:35:32.429 their tongues like swords, who aim bitter words like eras. Yeah, and 537 00:35:32.469 --> 00:35:36.059 I think that's what it is. Isn't that apt? That? Oh, 538 00:35:36.099 --> 00:35:38.179 yeah, but but we call upon the Lord, as the SAMAS did, 539 00:35:38.260 --> 00:35:43.699 that we call upon God to just protect us from those bitter words and that 540 00:35:43.940 --> 00:35:46.980 angry and sinful and demonic spirit. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I 541 00:35:47.059 --> 00:35:51.969 think it's some point. Maybe we'll do a podcast about is it appropriate to 542 00:35:52.050 --> 00:35:54.530 bring your children to an abortion center? That's a very miss subject, because 543 00:35:54.610 --> 00:35:58.610 there are very different views about that. There are, there are nothing, 544 00:35:58.889 --> 00:36:00.969 depending on the scenario. I mean, yes, full disclosure, I bring 545 00:36:01.050 --> 00:36:05.639 my children out on Saturdays and we serve the Lord together in that capacity. 546 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.679 Right. I know what they're facing. My kids been raised in this thing. 547 00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:14.719 And my kids are fairly well behaved. Yeah, so maybe we'll do 548 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:16.599 a podcast about this. I think that's be looking out for. That a 549 00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.750 good idea. But that is something consider that you're going to have these these 550 00:36:21.070 --> 00:36:24.590 vile statements coming from these people and sometimes they'll even target children. Right, 551 00:36:24.909 --> 00:36:29.030 not, not really the security guards, in our experience, mainly the pro 552 00:36:29.110 --> 00:36:31.230 abortion opposition. But it's a reality to consider. So right, and I 553 00:36:31.269 --> 00:36:36.139 would encourage you your first time out, probably probably not depping, not because, 554 00:36:36.219 --> 00:36:38.659 for one thing, it is very emotional and until you have process that 555 00:36:38.739 --> 00:36:42.860 emotion, I think you probably don't want to expose your kids to that because 556 00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:45.420 you're going to need to explain to them. Yeah. Well, so I 557 00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:51.010 want to jump right to some some encouraging stuff in this article that you've written. 558 00:36:51.050 --> 00:36:54.170 Yeah, and talk about the glimmers of hope and the fruitful responses. 559 00:36:54.289 --> 00:36:58.889 Yeah, because I want you guys to know, and we say it often, 560 00:36:59.769 --> 00:37:01.440 and I think I said it often in this podcast least, but I 561 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.440 know I say it with our new volunteers here, people that get involved in 562 00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.400 getting involved, that I make them too, promises if they come out to 563 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.400 an abortion center and I make these promises. I believe based on God's word, 564 00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.829 but also based on my experience and this two promises are if you commit 565 00:37:15.949 --> 00:37:20.309 to this ministry, if you commit to come out to an abortion center and 566 00:37:20.469 --> 00:37:22.789 the Holy Spirit is in you, you're a child of God, two things 567 00:37:22.789 --> 00:37:28.230 are going to happen. Yep. First, God will grow you in areas 568 00:37:28.269 --> 00:37:30.860 of your life spiritually that you would not grow otherwise because of some of the 569 00:37:30.940 --> 00:37:36.420 conflict, because of the spiritual warfare that you don't experience at home. You're 570 00:37:36.460 --> 00:37:39.340 going to be forced to grow in areas. That's like lifting weights. You're 571 00:37:39.340 --> 00:37:45.050 using muscles you don't normally use in American Christianity. We normally don't have this 572 00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:49.489 level of conflict, this level of opposition. Yeah, and so it helps 573 00:37:49.489 --> 00:37:52.730 us be more like Jesus, right, because he had a lot of opposition. 574 00:37:52.769 --> 00:37:57.250 Yeah. And the second thing is God will use you to save babies. 575 00:37:57.369 --> 00:38:00.559 I'm just telling you he will. Now, you might not find out 576 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.000 something about some of those babies that were saved until you stand before the Lord 577 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.480 and he shows you. But I'm telling you, God's word doesn't return void. 578 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:12.719 And if you come with a Gospel centered motivation that you've come to bring 579 00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:17.429 the Gospel and the hope of Jesus Christ. God will use you to save 580 00:38:17.590 --> 00:38:22.309 babies. Yeah, now, it might not be every time you go out, 581 00:38:22.710 --> 00:38:24.630 it might not be every other time you go out. It might be, 582 00:38:25.269 --> 00:38:29.260 like I said, until you breathe your last breath and you stand before 583 00:38:29.260 --> 00:38:32.099 the Lord and he shows you all the babies that were saved. I'm telling 584 00:38:32.179 --> 00:38:36.059 you, God will use you to say babies. He will, and and 585 00:38:36.659 --> 00:38:40.340 praise God. Sometimes he does give us visible fruit. He does actually quite 586 00:38:40.380 --> 00:38:45.449 often in the facility. That where we see a lot of babies saved. 587 00:38:45.889 --> 00:38:51.010 But on my first day out there I was, you know, close to 588 00:38:51.010 --> 00:38:54.570 tears the whole time, devastated by what I was seeing. Come really completely 589 00:38:54.570 --> 00:39:00.880 unprepared, and then I saw mom choose life. Yeah, and that hooked 590 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:06.280 me. Yeah, I was like, Oh, I need to do this, 591 00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.110 I need to be a part of this, and I think maybe he 592 00:39:09.230 --> 00:39:15.190 knew what a week person I was and that I needed that visible exist, 593 00:39:15.309 --> 00:39:19.349 you know proof, yeah, that the people standing there that it was not 594 00:39:19.469 --> 00:39:22.909 in vain. Maybe other people don't need that as much, but we have 595 00:39:23.110 --> 00:39:28.699 been blessed as a ministry to see it often. Yeah, and it is 596 00:39:28.820 --> 00:39:32.820 such an encouragement and the people that come back years later or continue to stay 597 00:39:32.900 --> 00:39:37.059 in touch with us for years, saying this child, then you watch them 598 00:39:37.139 --> 00:39:40.690 grow up in the pictures they send. This child wouldn't be here if you 599 00:39:42.050 --> 00:39:45.650 hadn't been there. That's pretty powerful. Yeah, it's powerful. And, 600 00:39:45.449 --> 00:39:50.090 guys, think about what we're saying here. Yeah, let's say, because 601 00:39:50.090 --> 00:39:53.079 we saw last week, praise God, eight MOMS choose life. So eight 602 00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:58.119 baby, say. But let's say you're at an abortion center and you're there 603 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.840 for a month and you only see one mom choose life, only one baby 604 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.719 saved, and that's all you're able to see as far as fruit and, 605 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.989 depending on the the scenario, whatever, it could be very difficult to have 606 00:40:09.110 --> 00:40:13.469 conversations with these MOMS and to really find out whether or not they chose life. 607 00:40:13.670 --> 00:40:17.230 Yeah, but think about that. Well, just one baby saved in 608 00:40:17.349 --> 00:40:21.349 a month's time, just one baby saved in a year's time, just one 609 00:40:21.460 --> 00:40:27.139 baby, just one life, just one human being made in the image of 610 00:40:27.179 --> 00:40:30.219 a holy God, a little image bearer. Take take the just out of 611 00:40:30.300 --> 00:40:37.170 that. Right, we're talking one life that has been saved from death. 612 00:40:37.570 --> 00:40:40.449 Guys, that is worth the sacrifice. Yeah, how many people can say 613 00:40:40.489 --> 00:40:45.929 that? That my in in my service to the Lord today there was a 614 00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:51.320 literal life, yeah, saved, rescued. Yeah, and beyond that, 615 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.960 Gospel seeds sown. Listen, when a mom chooses life and she decides not 616 00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.320 to have her baby killed through abortion, and you have been instrumental in that 617 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:05.789 influence of her choose in life and, of course your life, you know, 618 00:41:05.909 --> 00:41:08.030 overflows with the love of God and you've certainly, if you've talked to 619 00:41:08.070 --> 00:41:10.150 her, you've shared with her while you're out there, and she knows. 620 00:41:10.269 --> 00:41:13.949 Listen, you only have to share why you're out there. She knows why 621 00:41:13.989 --> 00:41:15.429 you're out there. You're out there praying, you're out there reaching out, 622 00:41:15.710 --> 00:41:21.739 you're using God's word, of course effectively, and you are sewing those gospel 623 00:41:21.780 --> 00:41:24.820 seeds as well. And that child is going to grow up knowing, hopefully 624 00:41:24.860 --> 00:41:28.460 that MOM will share. Maybe that mom won't share, but for a lot 625 00:41:28.460 --> 00:41:30.500 of the MOM's that we've had encounters with, that mom has shared where they 626 00:41:30.539 --> 00:41:34.210 were at. Ultimately, when that child is able to understand, in a 627 00:41:34.250 --> 00:41:37.489 way that that child can understand, that child knows because there was a Christian 628 00:41:37.730 --> 00:41:43.010 there, my life was spared. That's amazing. It's amazing, guys. 629 00:41:43.130 --> 00:41:45.650 Yeah, so we would encourage you, guys, with that. And then, 630 00:41:45.730 --> 00:41:47.320 just to wrap this thing up, I think this is an important point, 631 00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.320 and this is after you've gone out there for your first time and you've 632 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.679 experienced some of what we're talking about. Maybe some of it you haven't experienced. 633 00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.679 As far as the opposition, maybe there's no opposition there, praise God 634 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:05.630 for that, but still you've experienced the spiritual tension and you've experienced the horror 635 00:42:05.630 --> 00:42:07.989 of abortion right there where it takes place. Yeah, I feel like it's 636 00:42:08.110 --> 00:42:12.590 very important, and I do this even now sometimes, especially when it's been 637 00:42:12.590 --> 00:42:16.579 a very difficult day and we've experienced maybe some opposition that we had an experienced 638 00:42:16.659 --> 00:42:20.300 in a while, or what it's trumped up or whatever, or maybe it's 639 00:42:20.340 --> 00:42:22.380 a it's a situation where we had an awesome encounter with a mom that chose 640 00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:25.659 life. I like to debrief with the Lord. That's what I call it, 641 00:42:27.139 --> 00:42:31.010 debriefing with Jesus. So I'm driving away in my car and I'm thinking 642 00:42:31.090 --> 00:42:37.449 through what happened and I'm talking to the Lord in prayer about it, because 643 00:42:37.489 --> 00:42:39.449 he knew it, he saw it, he's there right right, and so 644 00:42:39.530 --> 00:42:44.320 I'm saying, Lord, this opposition came and I'm just thinking it all through 645 00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:47.039 just processing, and really what it is, it's just process and processing it 646 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.119 in your relationship with the Lord. Right. Yeah, that's a really, 647 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:54.639 really good thing to do, because I will hear people say a lot of 648 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.750 times go home and talk with your family or, you know, share with 649 00:42:58.829 --> 00:43:01.110 a loved one, and that's all fine and good, but I think processing 650 00:43:01.190 --> 00:43:06.510 it with the Lord is absolutely the most important and first step, because he's 651 00:43:06.590 --> 00:43:08.829 the one that has empowered you to do what you did, he has seen 652 00:43:08.909 --> 00:43:13.059 everything and he's the one that's going to strengthen you to do it again the 653 00:43:13.179 --> 00:43:15.940 next time. Yeah, absolutely, show up. Yeah, and there may 654 00:43:15.940 --> 00:43:20.739 be a situation in which, I know there's been situations, plenty of situations 655 00:43:20.780 --> 00:43:23.940 in my case, where I've said things, after my first, second, 656 00:43:24.019 --> 00:43:28.289 third, after years of being out there, that like I shouldn't have said. 657 00:43:28.289 --> 00:43:30.090 Yeah, like that was stupid. I went over the line, and 658 00:43:30.250 --> 00:43:35.849 maybe some opposition with the pro abortion people and whatever, and sometimes I need 659 00:43:35.929 --> 00:43:38.969 to process that before the Lord and ask the Lord God, should I apologize 660 00:43:39.050 --> 00:43:43.960 to that person? I've apologized to probortion people for because I've said things that 661 00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.840 I shouldn't say. Yeah, thankfully, not too terrible, but just things 662 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:50.880 that I regret having said and I apologized, as some of these people, 663 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:53.320 and so that's that's part of me process. And now this course for you 664 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.869 guys, is always down the road. But even just maybe you just started 665 00:43:57.949 --> 00:44:01.949 calling out to the mom's going in and before the Lord may be process, 666 00:44:02.110 --> 00:44:06.030 like Lord, should I said that at that particular time, because the Lord 667 00:44:06.070 --> 00:44:08.150 can give us wisdom, the Lord can help us and he can guide us 668 00:44:08.190 --> 00:44:12.659 into saying the right things at the right time. Yeah, and so even 669 00:44:12.780 --> 00:44:15.460 process and what you've said. Did I say this effectively? Did should? 670 00:44:15.460 --> 00:44:20.099 I've reached out to that person in that way. And let the Lord, 671 00:44:20.619 --> 00:44:23.059 as he's by his Holy Spirit, teaching you, because the Bible says that 672 00:44:23.179 --> 00:44:27.170 he is our teacher, the holy spirits our teacher. Let the Lord teach 673 00:44:27.170 --> 00:44:30.289 you to be more effective. Yeah, let the Lord teach you when to 674 00:44:30.369 --> 00:44:31.769 say what, that sort of thing right, and he will. And also 675 00:44:31.929 --> 00:44:37.599 to pray. I will often, as I'm leaving, pray gratitude for the 676 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:43.000 lives that I've seen, seen saved, if I've had that privilege, but 677 00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.760 also for the opportunities, because there's always opportunities, almost always. You've had 678 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:52.989 opportunities to interact with with women and to just pray that those seeds that that 679 00:44:52.590 --> 00:44:57.630 have been planted would indeed grow. We had a woman I counseled for like 680 00:44:57.710 --> 00:45:01.309 an hour car side today and she's I don't know what she's going to choose. 681 00:45:01.349 --> 00:45:05.269 So I as soon as I finished, I was just I felt like 682 00:45:05.510 --> 00:45:09.739 I had been really through a physical battle. I've just I could barely walk, 683 00:45:09.780 --> 00:45:14.619 I was so weak just because, you know, I kind of gave 684 00:45:14.780 --> 00:45:20.699 everything. But so I know all this afternoon I've been thinking over the discussion 685 00:45:20.739 --> 00:45:24.489 and just pausing in my heart to pray. Yeah, and think, use 686 00:45:24.570 --> 00:45:28.449 those words, use your spirit, Lord, to convict her, because I 687 00:45:28.489 --> 00:45:30.849 think she was very close to she didn't kill her baby today, but I 688 00:45:31.090 --> 00:45:35.210 think that she is. I think she's going to make a choice for life. 689 00:45:35.250 --> 00:45:38.039 But but that that time, after it's all over, after you're out 690 00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.960 of the battle, to remember, well, God is still working, yeah, 691 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:46.039 and ask him to intercede in whoever's lives you've touched while you've been out 692 00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:50.309 there. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Well, guys, we hope this 693 00:45:50.469 --> 00:45:53.710 was an encouragement to y'all. There's more than what we covered in this podcast, 694 00:45:54.389 --> 00:45:58.590 but we wanted to shorten it a little bit. But Vicki's written a 695 00:45:58.630 --> 00:46:01.070 wonderful article here and we're going to put that on the sidewalks for life site 696 00:46:01.070 --> 00:46:05.539 because it gives a little more in depth. Please let us know if there's 697 00:46:05.539 --> 00:46:08.900 subjects we can cover, things that maybe you have questions about, that you 698 00:46:08.940 --> 00:46:12.699 would want for us to cover. We'd love to cover those. Shoot me 699 00:46:12.739 --> 00:46:15.940 an email. D Parks at cities for lifecom and her V Cossey Org at 700 00:46:15.980 --> 00:46:21.650 cities for lifecom. We'd love to interact with you guys and share with you 701 00:46:21.690 --> 00:46:24.530 any encouragement we can. We appreciate it's an encouragement to us that you guys 702 00:46:24.530 --> 00:46:28.889 are listening. We appreciate that. Just pray that you guys continue to be 703 00:46:28.969 --> 00:46:36.320 blessed as you serve him. And until next time, God bless give me 704 00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:49.510 our love for love, give me our love for gratitude. I know it 705 00:46:49.670 --> 00:46:58.469 will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious and some you