June 9, 2022

When Roe V. Wade Is Overturned

When Roe V. Wade Is Overturned

Any day now the Supreme Court could issue a decision that will effectively overturn Roe V. Wade. This would push the decision to allow abortions back to the states. In this episode, we talk about how that could affect us on the sidewalk and how we can prepare ourselves to reach women who have unplanned pregnancies.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.919 The reality is, if Rov waite is ever turned, the battle is still 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:07.679 on. It is that age old battle between light and darkness, between life 3 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:11.279 and death, is still on. Right and we, as believers in Jesus, 4 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:15.240 need uphold the standard of God's Word Proclaim The Gospel. The Gospel doesn't 5 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:18.120 change, no matter what the laws say. If the Laws Change, the 6 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:21.920 Gospel doesn't change. Yeah, still the power of God to salvation and it's 7 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:25.280 still our charge as the church to shine the light of the Gospel wherever we 8 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:31.079 are. I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s 9 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:36.920 and me, Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome 10 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:42.320 to the Gospel Center Prey Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage 11 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:46.200 and challenge you in pro life ministry, and always with a focus on the 12 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:57.560 Gospel. Stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use 13 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.719 Welcome back to the Gospel centered pro life podcast. Appreciate you, guys, 14 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.280 joining us and as we encourage you, guys always, please leave us a 15 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:11.120 review on this podcast. Wherever you receive this podcast, where if you listen 16 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.680 to it, apple podcast or Google podcast or spotify. If there's an ability 17 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.640 to leave us a review, please do that leave us a positive review. 18 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:25.079 It'll help get folks aware of this podcast and also share this podcast with other 19 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:30.680 folks on social media or shoot them over an email or send him snail mail 20 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:37.840 with a invite to listen to this podcast whenever it takes just a Gadam listening 21 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.879 right. Yeah, we think this is podcast is a blessing. At least 22 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:46.439 we're learning a lot of stuff. We've learned some stuff. I think we've 23 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:51.079 helped other folks. We've equipped and encourage folks that are involved in sidewalk out 24 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:55.439 reach and so yeah, that's what this podcast is all about. My name 25 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:59.359 is Daniel Parks and I served as the West Coast Regional Shepherd for love life, 26 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:01.280 so oversee all of our efforts on the west coast, and Vicki, 27 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:08.439 cassie Org is our sidewalk training director now for love life, so she's involved 28 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:13.719 in training a lot of folks to do sidewalk ministry, involved in actually putting 29 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:21.520 together right now a sidewalk playbook, a sidewalk out reach playbook with some really 30 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:25.240 key things that you need to know for sidewalk out reach. That will be 31 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:31.319 available to all of our love life cities once that thing is created. And 32 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:37.039 maybe if you give us enough money, if you pay us in lash lots. 33 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:39.080 Yes, will send it to you. If you're not part of love 34 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:42.840 life. Now, I'm just kidding. You won't do that. We can 35 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:46.800 hold that thing tightly. Yeah, but it will be a blessing and will 36 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:52.240 probably have maybe we will give public access to that sidewalk out and we'll have 37 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.520 to think about that, I mean, because it's good for anyone who's ministering 38 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:58.759 on the sidewalk. It's very general. Yeah, yeah, basics. Think 39 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:00.840 about that. Maybe we'll put that at on sidewalks for lifecom. Yeah, 40 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:04.960 so be on a lookout for that. And just to mention sidewalks for lifecom. 41 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:07.960 We haven't mentioned it in a while, but it's a training and equipping 42 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:10.240 website that we set up for anyone to take advantage of, whether you're part 43 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:15.919 of love life or not, and we put out equipping articles. About every 44 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:19.199 week we have an article that Vicky rights. We kind of put our heads 45 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.680 together a little a little bit about it, but Vicky does most of the 46 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:24.319 writing, or actually all of the writing. I do some brainstorming on the 47 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:28.120 articles, but we put the article. That sort of the framework for each 48 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.439 of these podcasts episodes out on that website. You can go under equipping articles 49 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:38.039 and take advantage of that, but without further ado. Is it a do 50 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:42.000 or to do? You know, I don't know. Yeah, well, 51 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:44.879 we'll figure that one out. Hopefully by the end of this episode we can 52 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:49.039 get right into our subject, which I think is a very timely subjects. 53 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:52.960 Matter of fact, we're probably actually a little late to the game then covering 54 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:58.439 the subject, and it's not necessarily directly associated with sidewalk out reach. Well, 55 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:00.000 I guess it kind of is. We're going to tie into sidewalk out 56 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.479 yeah, I think. I think it will be. Yeah, so it's 57 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:08.879 really the subject of if Rov Wade is in fact overturned. And who knows, 58 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:13.199 like when this episode drops, that decision may already be out. We 59 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.560 record these about a week in advance and so when this episode hits, hits 60 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:23.480 the podcast services, they may already have have given this decision. So hopefully 61 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:28.879 it'll be timely. Yeah, and and encouragement. So basically the question is, 62 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:33.279 what if movie wade is overturned, how's it going to affect us or 63 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:38.160 things going to change with what we're doing on the sidewalk right? So, 64 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:40.360 yeah, I don't know if you want to jump into a little bit of 65 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.120 intro. What you're thinking was on this article. Yeah, well, I 66 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:46.720 think first of all, probably everybody that's listening has heard about this. But 67 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:49.639 just to make sure everybody is on the same page about it, there was 68 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:54.959 a leaked draft, yeah, of the majority opinion of the Supreme Court, 69 00:04:56.040 --> 00:05:01.480 who are right now discussing whether to overturn Rov Wade, the landmark decision that 70 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.240 was handed down in one thousand nine hundred and seventy three. You know, 71 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:12.959 that made abortion legal. Isn't quite the right word, because because the Supreme 72 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:17.519 Court doesn't make laws right, right, but they said that nationally you could 73 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:23.160 have an abortion. Basically, they deemed that abortion was a woman's constitutional right 74 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:29.120 because of the right to privacy afforded in the fourteen amendment. I believe it 75 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:31.199 is. Ye, Ye. And so, yeah, we're going to be 76 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:38.040 talking about okay, what if that leaked draft is the majority opinion where that 77 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.120 is indicative of the overturning of rogue? Wait, if it holds, so 78 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:47.040 they can change, the draft can change and the final decision could be different. 79 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:50.319 But most experts are saying no, this looks like it. They know 80 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.480 it's authentic. The Supreme Court said it was authentic. The leak draft. 81 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:59.480 Yeah, I've actually read several pages of it and Super Boring. Of course 82 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:02.279 it's legalize, yea, but yeah, they would understand most of it. 83 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:08.839 Yeah, so. But but what would happen if the ruling took effect? 84 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:12.839 If, if, if it is handed down as final the same way that 85 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:16.720 it is in the draft, that it they have overturned Rov Wade, what 86 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.480 would happen? And I did read a couple of articles, I've listened to 87 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:25.279 several podcast about it. But if it, if it holds true, then 88 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:30.680 of course abortion could instantly become outlawed overnight in at least thirteen states, okay, 89 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.360 is what I read, and with the possibility of as many as twenty 90 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:38.399 six states. Yeah, and in the article we wrote, I don't know 91 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.279 if we want to read through who those states are known. People can think 92 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:46.240 advantage of the article. Can Look at the article. But the those thirteen 93 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.680 states have what are called trigger laws. Yeah, and so that's those are 94 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:57.839 laws that are triggered by or in the eventuality or in the case that it 95 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:01.480 is overturned, then those laws would go instantly into effect. They're triggered by 96 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:06.199 the decision by the Supreme Court. Yeah, and the so for those thirteen 97 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:13.399 states, they currently have abortion bands but they're not being you know, they're 98 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:15.759 not being followed at all because of Rov Wade. But as soon as Row 99 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:21.399 v Wade is overturned those thirteen states, then those state bands go into effect 100 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:26.600 and abortion would be illegal. Yeah, in those thirteen states. Yeah, 101 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.959 now I do want to mention Oklahoma in particular and if you've had recently about 102 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:34.480 Oklahoma, but they apparently did pass some legislation that made abortion illegal and it 103 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:39.199 hasn't been challenged because I think of this whole Rov Wade thing, and so 104 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:45.319 that law has has stood. In my understanding is currently there aren't any abortions 105 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:49.120 taken place in Oklahoma. All of the abortion centers are shut down. Now 106 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:54.560 there's obviously there's going to be some legal pushback. For sure, parenthood and 107 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:58.839 the other really rich pro abortion organizations are going to file some lawsuits and all 108 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:03.920 that stuff. Yeah, but I think there's so much that's unknown. There's 109 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.519 so much up in the air as far as this Supreme Court decision, the 110 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:13.519 overturning of rovway decision, that the states like Oklahoma that are passing laws that 111 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.560 are more strict. They're kind of getting away with it in a way that 112 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:22.800 they maybe wouldn't wouldn't have otherwise. Yeah. Yeah, and so there's the 113 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:28.199 potentially twenty six states that many news outlets are talking about. There's the thirteen 114 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.960 that they have the trigger laws and will, yeah, you know, essentially 115 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:39.240 ban abortions. But then the other thirteen states that they talked about. They 116 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:43.200 have not implemented trigger laws, but they indicate that they will proceed to ramp 117 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:48.919 up the efforts to either ban or severely limit abortion. And so, of 118 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.720 course, you know, the the socalled pro choice crowd is going bananas because 119 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:58.600 they're very worried that abortion is going to be severely limited. And the the 120 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:03.320 article full that, which I link with the article I wrote in Fortune, 121 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:11.399 reports that currently the average length of travel for to get get an abortion is 122 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.440 twenty five miles and that if what they think is going to happen with all 123 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:18.799 these states banning or limiting an abortion, it will become more like a hundred 124 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.519 twenty five miles. Yeah, and so one of the immediate effects, which 125 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:26.759 doesn't necessarily affect us on the sidewalk, but just nationwide, is that there 126 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:35.000 are corporations that are very pro abortion, like Amazon, I can't remember the 127 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.320 other. Apple Rode it down. Yeah, and they're they're actually already enacting, 128 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.720 not laws, but part of their company policy that, peep, they 129 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:50.960 will pay to reimburse people to travel to go get abortion. So it's setting 130 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:56.840 up this divide, sure, even in in terms of the corporations that maybe 131 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:01.279 we currently use. Yeah, for products that that you know, we may, 132 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:03.679 I don't know, it may come to a point where I really wanted 133 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:07.279 to your phone in your mouth. Now I know who you know that some 134 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:11.360 states, like California, for example, where I do a lot of ministry, 135 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:16.240 yet I ever see our teams there. California has essentially said, governor 136 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:22.840 newsome, that if a woman from outside of the State of California, in 137 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.320 a state that's made abortion illegal, if this happens, that California actually will 138 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:33.159 pay for their travel right to the state of California, will pay for their 139 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.440 abortion, pay for child care, pay for them a place to stay while 140 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.080 they're in California killing their child. So some states, and of course we 141 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:46.519 know what those states are, California, New York, Washington State, Oregon, 142 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:52.879 leftist states, Colorado, are positioning themselves to be abortion destinations. Yeah, 143 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:56.360 and that helps us to understand, at least from a sidewalk out reach 144 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.840 perspective, that there's going to be some of these states, if Rodweed is 145 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:03.080 a returned, that's going to likely see an increase in people coming to the 146 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:07.080 abortion clinic. Right, for sure, if you are on the border of 147 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:15.080 a state that has banned abortion. Yeah, then your state, if it 148 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:20.840 has not banned abortion, is that's the immediate likely scenario. I think that 149 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.279 probably for US in North Carolina. Yes, my take on the political atmosphere 150 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:31.279 here is if we do ultimately ban abortion after the overturning of Rov Wade, 151 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.480 it's going to take a while. Yeah, and I'm actually skeptical that it's 152 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:37.559 actually going to happen because we don't have the folks and I don't know all 153 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:41.200 the legislative dynamic, but I do know that we don't have enough folks that 154 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:46.600 would be on the side of life in the state legislature to wholesale make abortion 155 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.240 illegal. Right. So what's going to happen? At least in my estimation, 156 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:56.320 South Carolina does that abortion will become illegal there? Right? Georgia, 157 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:01.200 possibly, Alabama, yeah, Tennessee, possibly, saw all the states that 158 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:07.559 surround us are going to likely severely restrict or make abortion out right illegal. 159 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:09.679 So we're going to have to prepare ourselves for even more of an influx. 160 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.840 We already see a lot of people from South Carolina here anyway, in Georgia 161 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.879 and Tennessee yeah, and all over. I think we're going to see that 162 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.279 more and more. Yeah, so that kind of gives us just a heads 163 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.399 up. Hey, we need to we need to all the more be diligent 164 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:26.799 building teams, encouraging our teams to be out here on the sidewalk. Yeah, 165 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:30.360 and the same way in some of you other guys, some of your 166 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:35.679 states, like California. Again, now I don't say this, of course, 167 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:41.720 I want to speak in faith, and I would pray and pray for 168 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.799 the mercy of God over California that they would turn back to the Lord and 169 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.399 abortion we become illegal there. But for right now, dealing with reality, 170 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.279 there's going to likely be an influx of people coming to California if abortion is 171 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.159 made illegal. And so over these states near California, I think there's already 172 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.399 been because of the Texas stuff. There's already been an influx and people come 173 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:03.759 in the California for abortions. Yeah, so that's important for us to know. 174 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.399 It is that there's certainly on so many levels. Knowing that, you 175 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:11.440 know you're going to want to ramp up your volunteer pool if you can. 176 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:20.360 But I think also just thinking about the effect on your current volunteers seeing when 177 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:24.600 we see sixty, seventy women, which is rare it here in La true, 178 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:30.519 where where we minister, we normally see thirty to forty women a day. 179 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:33.879 Yeah, think about that double lane. That is going to take an 180 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:39.159 enormous emotional toll. Yeah, I think because it is hard. It's hard 181 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.600 to see that. So I think to be prepared for the trauma of seeing 182 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:48.279 so many people, yeah, said, knowing that so many more babies are 183 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:52.440 dying in front of your eyes. Yeah, and I would say even aside 184 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:58.480 from that, HMM, I want to encourage all of you guys to stay 185 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:01.559 connected each other. Yeah, stay connected. Have Prayer meetings. I know 186 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.360 some of our teams across the nation have regular prayer meetings where they and their 187 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:11.279 local team meets together. Sidewalk team in particular meets together to pray, hold 188 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:15.960 each other up in prayer. They have regular cond of contact with each other, 189 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.720 text messages, what'Sapp groups and things like that, where they encourage each 190 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.799 other. Let's just be diligent to do that. We have in this nation, 191 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.200 this atmosphere, this culture of death right in this atmosphere, at least 192 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.960 recently, because of Rov Wade and the potential overturning a rovy way, there's 193 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.559 a lot of hostilitia. Hostility is heightened, and so we need to be 194 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.600 praying for each other all the more and holding each other up in prayer, 195 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.600 encouraging each other with the word, with hey, brother, sister, you're 196 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.759 doing a fantastic job. God's using you. However, we can encourage you 197 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.159 to each other. We need to do that, and so, in light 198 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.440 of that, I do want to mention just something practically that we've shared with 199 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.879 all of our sidewalk teams and especially locally, but even nationally. We've put 200 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:01.919 this out there. is like, guys, because of the potential overturning of 201 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:07.080 Rovy Wade, the pro abortion side, like you said, they're mad, 202 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.080 they're high and mad, they're hopping mad are and because of that, when 203 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:15.360 you're out there on the sidewalk, you already get some opposition. You should 204 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.799 probably expect a little more opposition. In fact, I would even warn you 205 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.720 not to scare anyone on the side sidewalk. But I do think we need 206 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.759 to be prepared. I have seen an uptick in what I would consider threats 207 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:31.679 of violence. Yeah, and I really think we need to be careful because 208 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.600 the you know, the demons are riled down and the yeah, the socalled 209 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:43.000 pro choice group, is blaming us, right, and they they just are 210 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:48.000 increasingly hostile to and aggressive. Yeah, since, so that shouldn't make us 211 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.559 a fraid, right, we should. We don't walk in fear, walk 212 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.840 in faith. Yeah, don't let that intimidation, because that's what they want 213 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.360 to do. They want to intimidate you and get you off the sidewalk. 214 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:02.080 Don't let don't let the enemy intimidate you. I mean the devil working through 215 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:07.399 people. Don't let him intimidate yeah, but let it make you more vigilant. 216 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:10.519 To you need to have a camera going on while you're out there and 217 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:12.960 have something recorded and thinks. I agree. Have a camera running, have 218 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:17.440 your phone ready to record if necessary. Yeah, yeah, and hold people 219 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:22.639 accountable. If people do directly threaten you with bodily harm, you need to 220 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:27.080 report it. They need to be reported to the authorities and the authorities may 221 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:32.200 or may not do anything, but either way it's documented and just be be 222 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:34.759 diligent to do that. Again, encourage your teams. Encourage your teams. 223 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:38.480 If you're not out there day after day and you're overseeing teams, make sure 224 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:44.279 they got a video camera going at all times, right and how you position 225 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.200 that video camera? You know, I think it's best to position it kind 226 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:49.759 of a way so it kind of gets a wide angle view of the whole 227 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:53.559 scenario, rather than having it on your body, because a lot of times 228 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:56.519 that only gets what's in front of you. It doesn't get what's behind you 229 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.480 and you can miss things that could happen. So again, not telling you 230 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:07.160 this out of fear, but just use wisdom and be preyed up as you're 231 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.240 going out to the sidewalk. Pray through the armor of God. Did A 232 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.519 podcast about that, yeah, a while back. And just pray through putting 233 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.480 on the armor of God, walking confidence, I believe, as the enemies 234 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:23.079 ramping up his opposition, God's ramping up what he's doing and God's we're seeing 235 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.519 baby say, we're seeing salvations on a regular basis. Had the abortions and 236 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.680 yeah, it's pretty amazing to be a part of what God's doing. Yeah, 237 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.359 it really is. One of the things that I think we're going to 238 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:37.519 all feel an increased pressure, which I think is good on one hand, 239 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:44.559 but we need to be careful. Is the political pressure, yeah, coming 240 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:49.680 from prolife groups, because local and state elections are going to have an increased 241 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:53.960 they met, they will matter more, yeah, in terms of whether our 242 00:17:55.000 --> 00:18:00.519 state will then ultimately ban or severely limit abortion, hopefully ban. So I 243 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:04.079 think there's going to be a lot of pressure to be involved politically and we 244 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.960 did a podcast a few weeks ago, I think we've released it already, 245 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:12.559 that talked about how hard it is sometimes to to do it all. Yeah, 246 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.599 the enemy of the best is the great. That's right. So that 247 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:19.200 was that was when we talked about it, where I specifically talked about how 248 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:26.960 hard it is for me to be involved politically at any really at time consuming 249 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:30.480 level and do what I do on the sidewalk. I can't. Yeah, 250 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.279 but I think it all of us will need to be. We should be 251 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:38.759 voting, we should be finding out how people feel, how candidates feel about 252 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:44.519 abortion, because it is going to have a much more direct impact. Yes, 253 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.400 candidates now that as it moves from the national level to the state level. 254 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:53.799 Yeah, so I do want to mention for the states that we've already 255 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:59.079 taught, what about some of the states that are going to abortion is going 256 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:03.000 to remain in plays? Right, California, New York and other states. 257 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.000 You guys know what those states are. Yeah, we've already already talked about 258 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:10.759 just pre position your teams for an influx of people, right, and be 259 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:14.519 ready to minister all the more. Right, we've already talked about some of 260 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:18.480 the opposition that can come and all that stuff. But what about states that 261 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.039 abortion becomes illegal in, like what about Oklahoma? Yeah, when you're doing 262 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:29.759 sidewalk out reach in state like Oklahoma, or potentially in South Carolina or in 263 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:34.119 and Alabama or some of the states that have trigger laws in them, Idaho. 264 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:37.720 So we have a team in Idaho. So what is the Idaho team? 265 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:41.480 What are you guys going to do if the abortion centers in s job 266 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:47.200 have to go get another job? Right. What we know is, though, 267 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.759 even if abortion is made illegal, a couple of things. First is, 268 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.599 there's likely going to be exceptions that are allowed. Okay, so there's 269 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:03.279 likely almost always, which is unfortunate, but it's the political reality almost always 270 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.480 if they make abortion out right illegal, even Oklahoma there's exceptions for rape, 271 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:11.319 incest, the health of the mother. So abortions are still going to take 272 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:17.119 place legally. Actually, most of those are going to take place in hospitals, 273 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:21.119 right, and ministering at hospitals to people that are going in for abortions 274 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:25.039 is a very, very difficult thing to do because you don't know. I 275 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:26.920 mean you have ninety nine point nine percent of the people that are going in 276 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:32.279 for other things. Right. It could be really a maybe the Lord leads 277 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:34.880 you in that direction, but there's some other ways that you can position yourself. 278 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:38.119 But I think the most important thing that our teams can be doing and 279 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:44.279 others can be doing is because women are still going to have unplanned pregnancies right, 280 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:47.480 women are still going to be seeking out abortions in other states and things 281 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:53.640 like that. So really connecting with churches, really getting the Church positioned in 282 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:57.200 as much as it depends on you. Obviously depends on the pastors and leadership, 283 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:00.480 but as much as we can as a ministry to help churches get positioned 284 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:06.359 to receive these MOMS that would otherwise we would have encountered at the abortion center. 285 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:08.200 Ultimately, that's the vision. Who want to see men and women start 286 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:11.799 running to the abortion centers and start running to the local churches right. So 287 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.759 getting pastures aware of the need that there are women that are going to have 288 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:19.279 unplanned pregnancies, even if abortion is illegal, and we need to have our 289 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.680 arms wide open for these women to come into our congregation, to come in 290 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.759 and be surrounded by the love and the help of the local church. We 291 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.680 need to be ready to give baby items to them, we need to be 292 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.519 ready to disciple them. We already have things in place, our mentor program. 293 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:37.440 That thing still is going to be in place in states where abortion is 294 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:40.680 illegal. Women are still going to need to be mentored and someone to walk 295 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:42.519 with them through their pregnancy. Yeah, we have what we call house of 296 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:47.480 refuge churches. These are churches in cities where we do exist, and even 297 00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:49.640 cities where we don't exist, that have raised their hand and say we are 298 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:52.640 going to be a house of refuge for a mom that finds ourselves in a 299 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.079 crisis pregnancy situation. We're not going to condemn her, we're not going to 300 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.440 gossip about her, we're not going to justify the sin that maybe got her 301 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.039 pregnant, but it's not sin to be pregnant and if you find yourself in 302 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:07.079 an unplanned pregnancy, you can come to us. These are basically churches that 303 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:08.599 have said that you can come to us and we will help you and we 304 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:12.240 will stand with you. Right. So we need to work on getting more 305 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:18.759 of these house of refuge churches in plays so that these women can see this 306 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:21.599 is a church that I can go to, this is these are people that 307 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:23.680 I can trust. Right. So that's a couple of things that I think 308 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:30.119 we can be doing. Also, I would say, helping support our our 309 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:33.759 pregnancy centers. The pregnancy centers are going to still be open again. Women 310 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:37.599 are still going to find themselves an unplanned pregnancy situations and though plan parenthood might 311 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.279 be shut down because they can't do abortions, or at least that portion of 312 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:45.920 their business, which is the main money maker for plan parenthood, is going 313 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:51.200 to shut down, people are still going to again be going to plan parenthood 314 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:55.319 for services. We don't need to. They don't need to be going there, 315 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:57.279 right. They need to become to the pregnancy resources. Yeah, and 316 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:03.400 I imagine a pregnancy resource centers there. They will see an influx of clients 317 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:12.960 as well. Yet that they become the sanctuary for the unplanned pregnancies and in 318 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:18.359 the same way that California becomes as sanctuary for abortions, will the pregnancy resource 319 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:22.119 centers can become a sanctuary for women who are seeking who can't get an abortion 320 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.119 and are overwhelmed? Yes, so, yeah, absolutely, there's a there 321 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:30.680 will be a role for us, no matter what. I would love to 322 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.279 be out of work that or she would, but it's it is not the 323 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.480 end of abortion. And in fact, even in the states where they will 324 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:45.079 outlaw abortion, I just heard like in the Virginia of Virginia prosecutor, I 325 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.799 can't remember his name, but he has already said he will not prosecute the 326 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.680 crime. They if it becomes a crime, he won't prosecute right the crime 327 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:57.119 of abortion. And so there are. He's one of many, you know, 328 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.880 that that are saying we're not going to prosecute it, we don't care 329 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.720 what the laws yeah, where we're not going to probate. Yea. So 330 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.720 the reality is, if Rov Wade is a returned, the battle is still 331 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.440 on. It is that age old battle between light and darkness, between life 332 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.000 and death, is still on right and we, as believers in Jesus, 333 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.000 need to uphold the standard of God's Word Proclaim The Gospel. The Gospel doesn't 334 00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:22.880 change, no matter what the laws say. If the Laws Change, the 335 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.680 Gospel doesn't change. Yeah, still the power of God to salvation and it's 336 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:30.039 still our charge as the church to shine the light of the Gospel wherever we 337 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.480 are right. So we hope that this was an encouragement. Do you guys? 338 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:36.680 We hope that this may be answered some of your questions. Maybe you 339 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:40.920 have further thoughts about this subject, about when Rov Wade is overturned. We'd 340 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:42.200 love to hear from you. Can reach out to me, Daniel a love 341 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.759 life dot org. You reach her, Vicki, with a why at Love 342 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.279 Life Dot Org. We love to hear from you, but until next time, 343 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.680 God bless God bless you all.