When Roe V. Wade Is Overturned

WEBVTT100:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.919The reality is, if Rov waiteis ever turned, the battle is still200:00:03.960 --> 00:00:07.679on. It is that age oldbattle between light and darkness, between life300:00:07.759 --> 00:00:11.279and death, is still on.Right and we, as believers in Jesus,400:00:11.560 --> 00:00:15.240need uphold the standard of God's WordProclaim The Gospel. The Gospel doesn't500:00:15.320 --> 00:00:18.120change, no matter what the lawssay. If the Laws Change, the600:00:18.160 --> 00:00:21.920Gospel doesn't change. Yeah, stillthe power of God to salvation and it's700:00:21.920 --> 00:00:25.280still our charge as the church toshine the light of the Gospel wherever we800:00:25.320 --> 00:00:31.079are. I Am Yours, Iam yours, I am yours, s900:00:31.079 --> 00:00:36.920and me, Lord, I amyours, I am yours. I'm welcome1000:00:36.960 --> 00:00:42.320to the Gospel Center Prey Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage1100:00:42.439 --> 00:00:46.200and challenge you in pro life ministry, and always with a focus on the1200:00:46.240 --> 00:00:57.560Gospel. Stay tuned. I feltshow passish, touch your heart. Use1300:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.719Welcome back to the Gospel centered prolife podcast. Appreciate you, guys,1400:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.280joining us and as we encourage you, guys always, please leave us a1500:01:07.319 --> 00:01:11.120review on this podcast. Wherever youreceive this podcast, where if you listen1600:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.680to it, apple podcast or Googlepodcast or spotify. 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My name2500:01:55.519 --> 00:01:59.359is Daniel Parks and I served asthe West Coast Regional Shepherd for love life,2600:01:59.400 --> 00:02:01.280so oversee all of our efforts onthe west coast, and Vicki,2700:02:01.359 --> 00:02:08.439cassie Org is our sidewalk training directornow for love life, so she's involved2800:02:08.439 --> 00:02:13.719in training a lot of folks todo sidewalk ministry, involved in actually putting2900:02:13.800 --> 00:02:21.520together right now a sidewalk playbook,a sidewalk out reach playbook with some really3000:02:21.719 --> 00:02:25.240key things that you need to knowfor sidewalk out reach. That will be3100:02:25.319 --> 00:02:31.319available to all of our love lifecities once that thing is created. And3200:02:31.400 --> 00:02:37.039maybe if you give us enough money, if you pay us in lash lots.3300:02:37.360 --> 00:02:39.080Yes, will send it to you. If you're not part of love3400:02:39.159 --> 00:02:42.840life. Now, I'm just kidding. You won't do that. We can3500:02:42.919 --> 00:02:46.800hold that thing tightly. Yeah,but it will be a blessing and will3600:02:46.840 --> 00:02:52.240probably have maybe we will give publicaccess to that sidewalk out and we'll have3700:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.520to think about that, I mean, because it's good for anyone who's ministering3800:02:54.560 --> 00:02:58.759on the sidewalk. It's very general. Yeah, yeah, basics. Think3900:02:58.800 --> 00:03:00.840about that. Maybe we'll put thatat on sidewalks for lifecom. Yeah,4000:03:00.879 --> 00:03:04.960so be on a lookout for that. And just to mention sidewalks for lifecom.4100:03:05.000 --> 00:03:07.960We haven't mentioned it in a while, but it's a training and equipping4200:03:07.000 --> 00:03:10.240website that we set up for anyoneto take advantage of, whether you're part4300:03:10.280 --> 00:03:15.919of love life or not, andwe put out equipping articles. About every4400:03:15.000 --> 00:03:19.199week we have an article that Vickyrights. We kind of put our heads4500:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.680together a little a little bit aboutit, but Vicky does most of the4600:03:21.680 --> 00:03:24.319writing, or actually all of thewriting. I do some brainstorming on the4700:03:24.360 --> 00:03:28.120articles, but we put the article. That sort of the framework for each4800:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.439of these podcasts episodes out on thatwebsite. You can go under equipping articles4900:03:31.520 --> 00:03:38.039and take advantage of that, butwithout further ado. Is it a do5000:03:38.240 --> 00:03:42.000or to do? You know,I don't know. Yeah, well,5100:03:42.039 --> 00:03:44.879we'll figure that one out. Hopefullyby the end of this episode we can5200:03:44.879 --> 00:03:49.039get right into our subject, whichI think is a very timely subjects.5300:03:49.080 --> 00:03:52.960Matter of fact, we're probably actuallya little late to the game then covering5400:03:53.000 --> 00:03:58.439the subject, and it's not necessarilydirectly associated with sidewalk out reach. Well,5500:03:58.439 --> 00:04:00.000I guess it kind of is.We're going to tie into sidewalk out5600:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.479yeah, I think. I thinkit will be. Yeah, so it's5700:04:02.479 --> 00:04:08.879really the subject of if Rov Wadeis in fact overturned. And who knows,5800:04:08.879 --> 00:04:13.199like when this episode drops, thatdecision may already be out. We5900:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.560record these about a week in advanceand so when this episode hits, hits6000:04:16.720 --> 00:04:23.480the podcast services, they may alreadyhave have given this decision. So hopefully6100:04:23.480 --> 00:04:28.879it'll be timely. Yeah, andand encouragement. So basically the question is,6200:04:29.360 --> 00:04:33.279what if movie wade is overturned,how's it going to affect us or6300:04:33.439 --> 00:04:38.160things going to change with what we'redoing on the sidewalk right? So,6400:04:38.279 --> 00:04:40.360yeah, I don't know if youwant to jump into a little bit of6500:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.120intro. What you're thinking was onthis article. Yeah, well, I6600:04:43.120 --> 00:04:46.720think first of all, probably everybodythat's listening has heard about this. But6700:04:46.839 --> 00:04:49.639just to make sure everybody is onthe same page about it, there was6800:04:49.680 --> 00:04:54.959a leaked draft, yeah, ofthe majority opinion of the Supreme Court,6900:04:56.040 --> 00:05:01.480who are right now discussing whether tooverturn Rov Wade, the landmark decision that7000:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.240was handed down in one thousand ninehundred and seventy three. You know,7100:05:05.279 --> 00:05:12.959that made abortion legal. Isn't quitethe right word, because because the Supreme7200:05:13.040 --> 00:05:17.519Court doesn't make laws right, right, but they said that nationally you could7300:05:17.519 --> 00:05:23.160have an abortion. Basically, theydeemed that abortion was a woman's constitutional right7400:05:23.279 --> 00:05:29.120because of the right to privacy affordedin the fourteen amendment. I believe it7500:05:29.160 --> 00:05:31.199is. Ye, Ye. Andso, yeah, we're going to be7600:05:31.240 --> 00:05:38.040talking about okay, what if thatleaked draft is the majority opinion where that7700:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.120is indicative of the overturning of rogue? Wait, if it holds, so7800:05:43.199 --> 00:05:47.040they can change, the draft canchange and the final decision could be different.7900:05:47.079 --> 00:05:50.319But most experts are saying no,this looks like it. They know8000:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.480it's authentic. The Supreme Court saidit was authentic. The leak draft.8100:05:54.600 --> 00:05:59.480Yeah, I've actually read several pagesof it and Super Boring. Of course8200:05:59.600 --> 00:06:02.279it's legalize, yea, but yeah, they would understand most of it.8300:06:02.439 --> 00:06:08.839Yeah, so. But but whatwould happen if the ruling took effect?8400:06:08.879 --> 00:06:12.839If, if, if it ishanded down as final the same way that8500:06:12.879 --> 00:06:16.720it is in the draft, thatit they have overturned Rov Wade, what8600:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.480would happen? And I did reada couple of articles, I've listened to8700:06:20.480 --> 00:06:25.279several podcast about it. But ifit, if it holds true, then8800:06:25.319 --> 00:06:30.680of course abortion could instantly become outlawedovernight in at least thirteen states, okay,8900:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.360is what I read, and withthe possibility of as many as twenty9000:06:34.399 --> 00:06:38.399six states. Yeah, and inthe article we wrote, I don't know9100:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.279if we want to read through whothose states are known. People can think9200:06:42.279 --> 00:06:46.240advantage of the article. Can Lookat the article. But the those thirteen9300:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.680states have what are called trigger laws. Yeah, and so that's those are9400:06:50.759 --> 00:06:57.839laws that are triggered by or inthe eventuality or in the case that it9500:06:57.959 --> 00:07:01.480is overturned, then those laws wouldgo instantly into effect. They're triggered by9600:07:01.519 --> 00:07:06.199the decision by the Supreme Court.Yeah, and the so for those thirteen9700:07:06.199 --> 00:07:13.399states, they currently have abortion bandsbut they're not being you know, they're9800:07:13.399 --> 00:07:15.759not being followed at all because ofRov Wade. But as soon as Row9900:07:15.839 --> 00:07:21.399v Wade is overturned those thirteen states, then those state bands go into effect10000:07:21.399 --> 00:07:26.600and abortion would be illegal. Yeah, in those thirteen states. Yeah,10100:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.959now I do want to mention Oklahomain particular and if you've had recently about10200:07:30.040 --> 00:07:34.480Oklahoma, but they apparently did passsome legislation that made abortion illegal and it10300:07:34.519 --> 00:07:39.199hasn't been challenged because I think ofthis whole Rov Wade thing, and so10400:07:39.319 --> 00:07:45.319that law has has stood. Inmy understanding is currently there aren't any abortions10500:07:45.319 --> 00:07:49.120taken place in Oklahoma. All ofthe abortion centers are shut down. Now10600:07:49.160 --> 00:07:54.560there's obviously there's going to be somelegal pushback. For sure, parenthood and10700:07:54.600 --> 00:07:58.839the other really rich pro abortion organizationsare going to file some lawsuits and all10800:07:58.839 --> 00:08:03.920that stuff. Yeah, but Ithink there's so much that's unknown. There's10900:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.519so much up in the air asfar as this Supreme Court decision, the11000:08:07.560 --> 00:08:13.519overturning of rovway decision, that thestates like Oklahoma that are passing laws that11100:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.560are more strict. They're kind ofgetting away with it in a way that11200:08:16.560 --> 00:08:22.800they maybe wouldn't wouldn't have otherwise.Yeah. Yeah, and so there's the11300:08:22.800 --> 00:08:28.199potentially twenty six states that many newsoutlets are talking about. There's the thirteen11400:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.960that they have the trigger laws andwill, yeah, you know, essentially11500:08:33.000 --> 00:08:39.240ban abortions. But then the otherthirteen states that they talked about. They11600:08:39.320 --> 00:08:43.200have not implemented trigger laws, butthey indicate that they will proceed to ramp11700:08:43.320 --> 00:08:48.919up the efforts to either ban orseverely limit abortion. And so, of11800:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.720course, you know, the thesocalled pro choice crowd is going bananas because11900:08:54.120 --> 00:08:58.600they're very worried that abortion is goingto be severely limited. And the the12000:08:58.679 --> 00:09:03.320article full that, which I linkwith the article I wrote in Fortune,12100:09:03.799 --> 00:09:11.399reports that currently the average length oftravel for to get get an abortion is12200:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.440twenty five miles and that if whatthey think is going to happen with all12300:09:15.480 --> 00:09:18.799these states banning or limiting an abortion, it will become more like a hundred12400:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.519twenty five miles. Yeah, andso one of the immediate effects, which12500:09:22.000 --> 00:09:26.759doesn't necessarily affect us on the sidewalk, but just nationwide, is that there12600:09:26.799 --> 00:09:35.000are corporations that are very pro abortion, like Amazon, I can't remember the12700:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.320other. Apple Rode it down.Yeah, and they're they're actually already enacting,12800:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.720not laws, but part of theircompany policy that, peep, they12900:09:45.759 --> 00:09:50.960will pay to reimburse people to travelto go get abortion. So it's setting13000:09:50.039 --> 00:09:56.840up this divide, sure, evenin in terms of the corporations that maybe13100:09:56.879 --> 00:10:01.279we currently use. Yeah, forproducts that that you know, we may,13200:10:01.440 --> 00:10:03.679I don't know, it may cometo a point where I really wanted13300:10:03.679 --> 00:10:07.279to your phone in your mouth.Now I know who you know that some13400:10:07.399 --> 00:10:11.360states, like California, for example, where I do a lot of ministry,13500:10:11.440 --> 00:10:16.240yet I ever see our teams there. California has essentially said, governor13600:10:16.320 --> 00:10:22.840newsome, that if a woman fromoutside of the State of California, in13700:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.320a state that's made abortion illegal,if this happens, that California actually will13800:10:28.360 --> 00:10:33.159pay for their travel right to thestate of California, will pay for their13900:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.440abortion, pay for child care,pay for them a place to stay while14000:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.080they're in California killing their child.So some states, and of course we14100:10:41.120 --> 00:10:46.519know what those states are, California, New York, Washington State, Oregon,14200:10:46.159 --> 00:10:52.879leftist states, Colorado, are positioningthemselves to be abortion destinations. Yeah,14300:10:52.919 --> 00:10:56.360and that helps us to understand,at least from a sidewalk out reach14400:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.840perspective, that there's going to besome of these states, if Rodweed is14500:10:58.840 --> 00:11:03.080a returned, that's going to likelysee an increase in people coming to the14600:11:03.120 --> 00:11:07.080abortion clinic. Right, for sure, if you are on the border of14700:11:07.120 --> 00:11:15.080a state that has banned abortion.Yeah, then your state, if it14800:11:15.080 --> 00:11:20.840has not banned abortion, is that'sthe immediate likely scenario. I think that14900:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.279probably for US in North Carolina.Yes, my take on the political atmosphere15000:11:24.279 --> 00:11:31.279here is if we do ultimately banabortion after the overturning of Rov Wade,15100:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.480it's going to take a while.Yeah, and I'm actually skeptical that it's15200:11:33.480 --> 00:11:37.559actually going to happen because we don'thave the folks and I don't know all15300:11:37.600 --> 00:11:41.200the legislative dynamic, but I doknow that we don't have enough folks that15400:11:41.200 --> 00:11:46.600would be on the side of lifein the state legislature to wholesale make abortion15500:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.240illegal. Right. So what's goingto happen? At least in my estimation,15600:11:50.320 --> 00:11:56.320South Carolina does that abortion will becomeillegal there? Right? Georgia,15700:11:56.360 --> 00:12:01.200possibly, Alabama, yeah, Tennessee, possibly, saw all the states that15800:12:01.240 --> 00:12:07.559surround us are going to likely severelyrestrict or make abortion out right illegal.15900:12:07.600 --> 00:12:09.679So we're going to have to prepareourselves for even more of an influx.16000:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.840We already see a lot of peoplefrom South Carolina here anyway, in Georgia16100:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.879and Tennessee yeah, and all over. I think we're going to see that16200:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.279more and more. Yeah, sothat kind of gives us just a heads16300:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.399up. Hey, we need towe need to all the more be diligent16400:12:24.399 --> 00:12:26.799building teams, encouraging our teams tobe out here on the sidewalk. Yeah,16500:12:26.840 --> 00:12:30.360and the same way in some ofyou other guys, some of your16600:12:30.360 --> 00:12:35.679states, like California. Again,now I don't say this, of course,16700:12:37.120 --> 00:12:41.720I want to speak in faith,and I would pray and pray for16800:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.799the mercy of God over California thatthey would turn back to the Lord and16900:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.399abortion we become illegal there. Butfor right now, dealing with reality,17000:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.279there's going to likely be an influxof people coming to California if abortion is17100:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.159made illegal. And so over thesestates near California, I think there's already17200:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.399been because of the Texas stuff.There's already been an influx and people come17300:13:00.399 --> 00:13:03.759in the California for abortions. Yeah, so that's important for us to know.17400:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.399It is that there's certainly on somany levels. Knowing that, you17500:13:07.399 --> 00:13:11.440know you're going to want to rampup your volunteer pool if you can.17600:13:13.440 --> 00:13:20.360But I think also just thinking aboutthe effect on your current volunteers seeing when17700:13:20.360 --> 00:13:24.600we see sixty, seventy women,which is rare it here in La true,17800:13:24.759 --> 00:13:30.519where where we minister, we normallysee thirty to forty women a day.17900:13:30.679 --> 00:13:33.879Yeah, think about that double lane. That is going to take an18000:13:33.039 --> 00:13:39.159enormous emotional toll. Yeah, Ithink because it is hard. It's hard18100:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.600to see that. So I thinkto be prepared for the trauma of seeing18200:13:43.799 --> 00:13:48.279so many people, yeah, said, knowing that so many more babies are18300:13:48.360 --> 00:13:52.440dying in front of your eyes.Yeah, and I would say even aside18400:13:52.559 --> 00:13:58.480from that, HMM, I wantto encourage all of you guys to stay18500:13:58.519 --> 00:14:01.559connected each other. Yeah, stayconnected. Have Prayer meetings. I know18600:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.360some of our teams across the nationhave regular prayer meetings where they and their18700:14:05.440 --> 00:14:11.279local team meets together. Sidewalk teamin particular meets together to pray, hold18800:14:11.279 --> 00:14:15.960each other up in prayer. Theyhave regular cond of contact with each other,18900:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.720text messages, what'Sapp groups and thingslike that, where they encourage each19000:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.799other. Let's just be diligent todo that. We have in this nation,19100:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.200this atmosphere, this culture of deathright in this atmosphere, at least19200:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.960recently, because of Rov Wade andthe potential overturning a rovy way, there's19300:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.559a lot of hostilitia. Hostility isheightened, and so we need to be19400:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.600praying for each other all the moreand holding each other up in prayer,19500:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.600encouraging each other with the word,with hey, brother, sister, you're19600:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.759doing a fantastic job. God's usingyou. However, we can encourage you19700:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.159to each other. We need todo that, and so, in light19800:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.440of that, I do want tomention just something practically that we've shared with19900:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.879all of our sidewalk teams and especiallylocally, but even nationally. We've put20000:14:56.919 --> 00:15:01.919this out there. is like,guys, because of the potential overturning of20100:15:01.000 --> 00:15:07.080Rovy Wade, the pro abortion side, like you said, they're mad,20200:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.080they're high and mad, they're hoppingmad are and because of that, when20300:15:11.080 --> 00:15:15.360you're out there on the sidewalk,you already get some opposition. You should20400:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.799probably expect a little more opposition.In fact, I would even warn you20500:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.720not to scare anyone on the sidesidewalk. But I do think we need20600:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.759to be prepared. I have seenan uptick in what I would consider threats20700:15:26.840 --> 00:15:31.679of violence. Yeah, and Ireally think we need to be careful because20800:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.600the you know, the demons areriled down and the yeah, the socalled20900:15:35.639 --> 00:15:43.000pro choice group, is blaming us, right, and they they just are21000:15:43.039 --> 00:15:48.000increasingly hostile to and aggressive. Yeah, since, so that shouldn't make us21100:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.559a fraid, right, we should. We don't walk in fear, walk21200:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.840in faith. Yeah, don't letthat intimidation, because that's what they want21300:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.360to do. They want to intimidateyou and get you off the sidewalk.21400:15:58.399 --> 00:16:02.080Don't let don't let the enemy intimidateyou. I mean the devil working through21500:16:02.080 --> 00:16:07.399people. Don't let him intimidate yeah, but let it make you more vigilant.21600:16:07.840 --> 00:16:10.519To you need to have a cameragoing on while you're out there and21700:16:10.759 --> 00:16:12.960have something recorded and thinks. Iagree. Have a camera running, have21800:16:14.080 --> 00:16:17.440your phone ready to record if necessary. Yeah, yeah, and hold people21900:16:17.440 --> 00:16:22.639accountable. If people do directly threatenyou with bodily harm, you need to22000:16:22.679 --> 00:16:27.080report it. They need to bereported to the authorities and the authorities may22100:16:27.159 --> 00:16:32.200or may not do anything, buteither way it's documented and just be be22200:16:32.320 --> 00:16:34.759diligent to do that. Again,encourage your teams. Encourage your teams.22300:16:34.799 --> 00:16:38.480If you're not out there day afterday and you're overseeing teams, make sure22400:16:38.519 --> 00:16:44.279they got a video camera going atall times, right and how you position22500:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.200that video camera? You know,I think it's best to position it kind22600:16:48.240 --> 00:16:49.759of a way so it kind ofgets a wide angle view of the whole22700:16:49.799 --> 00:16:53.559scenario, rather than having it onyour body, because a lot of times22800:16:53.559 --> 00:16:56.519that only gets what's in front ofyou. It doesn't get what's behind you22900:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.480and you can miss things that couldhappen. So again, not telling you23000:17:00.519 --> 00:17:07.160this out of fear, but justuse wisdom and be preyed up as you're23100:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.240going out to the sidewalk. Praythrough the armor of God. Did A23200:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.519podcast about that, yeah, awhile back. And just pray through putting23300:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.480on the armor of God, walkingconfidence, I believe, as the enemies23400:17:18.599 --> 00:17:23.079ramping up his opposition, God's rampingup what he's doing and God's we're seeing23500:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.519baby say, we're seeing salvations ona regular basis. Had the abortions and23600:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.680yeah, it's pretty amazing to bea part of what God's doing. Yeah,23700:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.359it really is. One of thethings that I think we're going to23800:17:33.440 --> 00:17:37.519all feel an increased pressure, whichI think is good on one hand,23900:17:37.599 --> 00:17:44.559but we need to be careful.Is the political pressure, yeah, coming24000:17:44.720 --> 00:17:49.680from prolife groups, because local andstate elections are going to have an increased24100:17:51.160 --> 00:17:53.960they met, they will matter more, yeah, in terms of whether our24200:17:55.000 --> 00:18:00.519state will then ultimately ban or severelylimit abortion, hopefully ban. So I24300:18:00.559 --> 00:18:04.079think there's going to be a lotof pressure to be involved politically and we24400:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.960did a podcast a few weeks ago, I think we've released it already,24500:18:08.000 --> 00:18:12.559that talked about how hard it issometimes to to do it all. Yeah,24600:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.599the enemy of the best is thegreat. That's right. So that24700:18:15.680 --> 00:18:19.200was that was when we talked aboutit, where I specifically talked about how24800:18:19.200 --> 00:18:26.960hard it is for me to beinvolved politically at any really at time consuming24900:18:26.039 --> 00:18:30.480level and do what I do onthe sidewalk. I can't. Yeah,25000:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.279but I think it all of uswill need to be. We should be25100:18:33.359 --> 00:18:38.759voting, we should be finding outhow people feel, how candidates feel about25200:18:38.759 --> 00:18:44.519abortion, because it is going tohave a much more direct impact. Yes,25300:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.400candidates now that as it moves fromthe national level to the state level.25400:18:48.440 --> 00:18:53.799Yeah, so I do want tomention for the states that we've already25500:18:53.799 --> 00:18:59.079taught, what about some of thestates that are going to abortion is going25600:18:59.160 --> 00:19:03.000to remain in plays? Right,California, New York and other states.25700:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.000You guys know what those states are. Yeah, we've already already talked about25800:19:06.119 --> 00:19:10.759just pre position your teams for aninflux of people, right, and be25900:19:10.880 --> 00:19:14.519ready to minister all the more.Right, we've already talked about some of26000:19:14.519 --> 00:19:18.480the opposition that can come and allthat stuff. But what about states that26100:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.039abortion becomes illegal in, like whatabout Oklahoma? Yeah, when you're doing26200:19:22.079 --> 00:19:29.759sidewalk out reach in state like Oklahoma, or potentially in South Carolina or in26300:19:30.039 --> 00:19:34.119and Alabama or some of the statesthat have trigger laws in them, Idaho.26400:19:34.200 --> 00:19:37.720So we have a team in Idaho. So what is the Idaho team?26500:19:38.119 --> 00:19:41.480What are you guys going to doif the abortion centers in s job26600:19:42.039 --> 00:19:47.200have to go get another job?Right. What we know is, though,26700:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.759even if abortion is made illegal,a couple of things. First is,26800:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.599there's likely going to be exceptions thatare allowed. Okay, so there's26900:19:56.720 --> 00:20:03.279likely almost always, which is unfortunate, but it's the political reality almost always27000:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.480if they make abortion out right illegal, even Oklahoma there's exceptions for rape,27100:20:07.519 --> 00:20:11.319incest, the health of the mother. So abortions are still going to take27200:20:11.359 --> 00:20:17.119place legally. Actually, most ofthose are going to take place in hospitals,27300:20:17.359 --> 00:20:21.119right, and ministering at hospitals topeople that are going in for abortions27400:20:21.240 --> 00:20:25.039is a very, very difficult thingto do because you don't know. I27500:20:25.039 --> 00:20:26.920mean you have ninety nine point ninepercent of the people that are going in27600:20:26.960 --> 00:20:32.279for other things. Right. Itcould be really a maybe the Lord leads27700:20:32.279 --> 00:20:34.880you in that direction, but there'ssome other ways that you can position yourself.27800:20:34.880 --> 00:20:38.119But I think the most important thingthat our teams can be doing and27900:20:38.160 --> 00:20:44.279others can be doing is because womenare still going to have unplanned pregnancies right,28000:20:44.319 --> 00:20:47.480women are still going to be seekingout abortions in other states and things28100:20:47.559 --> 00:20:53.640like that. So really connecting withchurches, really getting the Church positioned in28200:20:53.720 --> 00:20:57.200as much as it depends on you. Obviously depends on the pastors and leadership,28300:20:57.240 --> 00:21:00.480but as much as we can asa ministry to help churches get positioned28400:21:00.839 --> 00:21:06.359to receive these MOMS that would otherwisewe would have encountered at the abortion center.28500:21:06.440 --> 00:21:08.200Ultimately, that's the vision. Whowant to see men and women start28600:21:08.279 --> 00:21:11.799running to the abortion centers and startrunning to the local churches right. So28700:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.759getting pastures aware of the need thatthere are women that are going to have28800:21:15.839 --> 00:21:19.279unplanned pregnancies, even if abortion isillegal, and we need to have our28900:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.680arms wide open for these women tocome into our congregation, to come in29000:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.759and be surrounded by the love andthe help of the local church. We29100:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.680need to be ready to give babyitems to them, we need to be29200:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.519ready to disciple them. We alreadyhave things in place, our mentor program.29300:21:33.559 --> 00:21:37.440That thing still is going to bein place in states where abortion is29400:21:37.440 --> 00:21:40.680illegal. Women are still going toneed to be mentored and someone to walk29500:21:40.759 --> 00:21:42.519with them through their pregnancy. Yeah, we have what we call house of29600:21:42.559 --> 00:21:47.480refuge churches. These are churches incities where we do exist, and even29700:21:47.480 --> 00:21:49.640cities where we don't exist, thathave raised their hand and say we are29800:21:49.680 --> 00:21:52.640going to be a house of refugefor a mom that finds ourselves in a29900:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.079crisis pregnancy situation. We're not goingto condemn her, we're not going to30000:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.440gossip about her, we're not goingto justify the sin that maybe got her30100:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.039pregnant, but it's not sin tobe pregnant and if you find yourself in30200:22:03.119 --> 00:22:07.079an unplanned pregnancy, you can cometo us. These are basically churches that30300:22:07.119 --> 00:22:08.599have said that you can come tous and we will help you and we30400:22:08.640 --> 00:22:12.240will stand with you. Right.So we need to work on getting more30500:22:12.279 --> 00:22:18.759of these house of refuge churches inplays so that these women can see this30600:22:18.839 --> 00:22:21.599is a church that I can goto, this is these are people that30700:22:21.599 --> 00:22:23.680I can trust. Right. Sothat's a couple of things that I think30800:22:23.720 --> 00:22:30.119we can be doing. Also,I would say, helping support our our30900:22:30.119 --> 00:22:33.759pregnancy centers. The pregnancy centers aregoing to still be open again. Women31000:22:33.799 --> 00:22:37.599are still going to find themselves anunplanned pregnancy situations and though plan parenthood might31100:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.279be shut down because they can't doabortions, or at least that portion of31200:22:41.279 --> 00:22:45.920their business, which is the mainmoney maker for plan parenthood, is going31300:22:45.960 --> 00:22:51.200to shut down, people are stillgoing to again be going to plan parenthood31400:22:51.200 --> 00:22:55.319for services. We don't need to. They don't need to be going there,31500:22:55.400 --> 00:22:57.279right. They need to become tothe pregnancy resources. Yeah, and31600:22:57.319 --> 00:23:03.400I imagine a pregnancy resource centers there. They will see an influx of clients31700:23:03.400 --> 00:23:12.960as well. Yet that they becomethe sanctuary for the unplanned pregnancies and in31800:23:14.039 --> 00:23:18.359the same way that California becomes assanctuary for abortions, will the pregnancy resource31900:23:18.359 --> 00:23:22.119centers can become a sanctuary for womenwho are seeking who can't get an abortion32000:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.119and are overwhelmed? Yes, so, yeah, absolutely, there's a there32100:23:26.119 --> 00:23:30.680will be a role for us,no matter what. I would love to32200:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.279be out of work that or shewould, but it's it is not the32300:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.480end of abortion. And in fact, even in the states where they will32400:23:38.880 --> 00:23:45.079outlaw abortion, I just heard likein the Virginia of Virginia prosecutor, I32500:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.799can't remember his name, but hehas already said he will not prosecute the32600:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.680crime. They if it becomes acrime, he won't prosecute right the crime32700:23:52.720 --> 00:23:57.119of abortion. And so there are. He's one of many, you know,32800:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.880that that are saying we're not goingto prosecute it, we don't care32900:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.720what the laws yeah, where we'renot going to probate. Yea. So33000:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.720the reality is, if Rov Wadeis a returned, the battle is still33100:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.440on. It is that age oldbattle between light and darkness, between life33200:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.000and death, is still on rightand we, as believers in Jesus,33300:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.000need to uphold the standard of God'sWord Proclaim The Gospel. The Gospel doesn't33400:24:19.079 --> 00:24:22.880change, no matter what the lawssay. If the Laws Change, the33500:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.680Gospel doesn't change. Yeah, stillthe power of God to salvation and it's33600:24:26.680 --> 00:24:30.039still our charge as the church toshine the light of the Gospel wherever we33700:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.480are right. So we hope thatthis was an encouragement. Do you guys?33800:24:33.519 --> 00:24:36.680We hope that this may be answeredsome of your questions. Maybe you33900:24:36.680 --> 00:24:40.920have further thoughts about this subject,about when Rov Wade is overturned. We'd34000:24:40.960 --> 00:24:42.200love to hear from you. Canreach out to me, Daniel a love34100:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.759life dot org. You reach her, Vicki, with a why at Love34200:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.279Life Dot Org. We love tohear from you, but until next time,34300:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.680God bless God bless you all.