Sept. 17, 2020

When Is Failure Not Failure?

When Is Failure Not Failure?
When Is Failure Not Failure?
Gospel-Centered Pro-Life Podcast
When Is Failure Not Failure?

In sidewalk ministry at an abortion center, there can be a lot of apparent failures. However, God can use our faithfulness to turn what seem like failures into victories. In this episode, Vicky and Daniel share some Biblical truths and personal...

In sidewalk ministry at an abortion center, there can be a lot of apparent failures. However, God can use our faithfulness to turn what seem like failures into victories. In this episode, Vicky and Daniel share some Biblical truths and personal stories to encourage you with the truth that, if we are faithful to the Lord we can not fail.

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0:00 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, Lord. I welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. This episode, Vicki and I share how failure is never failure if we're obedient to God. Will share a biblical perspective as well as some stories from our experiences that will encourage you. Stay tuned. I felt show passis touch your heart. Welcome to the Gospel Center prayer life podcast. Guys, appreciate you tuning in. Appreciate you guys who share this podcast with your friends and with your family.

0:42 We certainly would love to hear some feedback from you guys as well. If you want to shoot me an email. D Parks at cities for lifecom or her vcs Oregat cities for lifecom. We'd love to hear from you what you think about the podcast, if you have any ideas for episodes coming up. We have some episodes that are that are going to be a real blessing to you guys. This episode, we hope, will be a blessing, but in the next couple of weeks we're going to do an episode about sex trafficking and how the issue of sex trafficking ties into the issue of abortion, and then we're going to have a good friend of ours, Sheryl Chandler, on to talk about her ministry, as she does baby showers for mom that mom's that choose life, and also she's been involved in Pro Life Ministry for thirty plus years, so she could give us, I think, a lot of insights on ministry and how to be affective. So make sure you guys, tune in for those in the coming weeks. But we're going to jump into a subject today that, as sidewalk counselors, I think we all have dealt with and deal with on a regular basis. If you're on the sidewalk, maybe if you're in a pregnancy well, I know if you're in a pregnancy center, any really any realm of ministry, you're going to deal with the issue of feeling like you're a failure. We've talked about discouragement, we've talked about burnout and all that sort of thing. This sort of speaks to some of those same points, but I think in this episode we're going to give you some encouragement and share some stories with you, yeah, about what God can do even when we might feel like a failure. Like we're not doing what God has called us to do because we don't see any fruit. God's doing stuff behind the scenes. But let's talk a little bit, Vicki,

2:13 before we get into some of the stories, we get into the biblical story of Joseph, let's just talk practically. Yeah, what are some of the emotions come with feeling like you're a failure out there on the sidewalk? You haven't seen any interactions or had maybe even seen any visible outward fruit. That didn't feel great. Yeah, well, I'll tell you. We talk with sidewalk missionaries from all over the nation through regular contact now to be encouragers, and one of I think the most common down that they feel is when they don't see saves. They don't see saved babies, or they'll say they have poured everything they have into a woman and and the woman chooses to abort anyway.

2:59 It is so discouraging and we are all questioning ourselves at those times. We're saying, what did we do wrong? It's almost impossible not to personalize it. What did I do wrong? When I say wrong, what could I or should I have said or done differently? And you second guess. Yeah, and you think and it can become severe enough, and I've heard it where people say I am not cut out for this, I god is not using me, I'm not meant to be a sidewalk counselor I need to quit and go, you know, I don't know, do something else, but this is not for me. So it can be really severe. The emotional response can be pretty severe and we feel like a failure. We have let down ourselves, we've let down our fellow counselors, we've let down the mother, we've let down the baby and we've let down God. I think all of us have been there. Yeah, at to some degree or another, at some point or another. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but of course in a biblical perspective, as one of the things that we always say is that our victory is in obedience. Right, that's where the victory is found. We're not called to save babies, we're not called to get people saved, we're called to be obedient to God. In within that comes the fruit of babies will be saved and the Gospel is going to go forth and people are going to turn to the Lord. But even if we don't see

4:31 those things happening, because there are days and there are weeks and there are scenarios in which you don't see any real outward fruit. And so, yeah, like you said, you feel like a fail. You feel like you've let everybody down, you've let even the Lord down. But ultimately the Bible tells us God sees the heart, God looks at the heart, and that kind of brings me to the story of Joseph, and you guys know, well, I'm not gonna I'm not going to recap that story completely, but you guys know, Joseph got a dream from the Lord, he had a calling, he had a vision from God. Ultimately, his brothers and even his father and mother were going to look to him for provision. They were going to bow down to him in their dream. Right. Yeah, exactly.

5:11 And if you haven't watched the movie Joseph, King of dreams, you know the movie I'm talking about. Some dream works like a cartoon that it's not a big it's a cartoon. It's like the Prince of Egypt movie. Ever. Watch that about Moses. Awesome, two of my favorite movies. Watch that movie. It's really good. It's not exactly a line in line with the Biblical text, but pretty much anyway, that's a little little rabbit trail for you guys. But Joseph Story is one of a parent failure, failure after failure after failure. Yeah, he had a vision from the Lord. Of many of you guys, you feel called to be out there on the sidewalk, and certainly you are. We are called to be out there and to be a voice for those babies, just like Joseph called to be at least in some position. I guess he didn't really know exactly what when the Lord gave him the dream, but he knew he was supposed to be in some position of authority and ultimately to help people. But about down to him, respect him, follow him. He was the leader. And Yeah, and what happens to him? So he ends up as a slave in potiphar's house. Well, first of all his brothers try to kill him and they throw them yeah, and then they then then they decide no, we're not going to kill him, will throw him in the well. And then, yeah, then he sold as a slave. Yeah, so he ends up in Potiphar's house and he does well there and his fateful there and gets a pretty good position and Potiphar's house. But then he's set up, or at least lied on by Potiphar's wife. He ends up in jail. Yeah, and the Dungeon, I would say. Yeah, and he's got this promise from the Lord, he's got this this promise of success, and yet

6:43 there he isn't a dungeon as a failure at least years, according to the world over two years. Yes, it's in good law. Yeah, so according to the world standards he was a failure. Again, however, we know the story right. The Lord set things up where ultimately he's second in command of Pharaoh. This this, what was apparently a failure to him ultimately is what the Lord used to propel him to that position. Had he not been there in prison, he would not been exposed to the Butler in the baker who ultimately was the Butler that told or the cupbear of Pharaoh, is one that told Pharaoh about Joseph and the interpretation of the dreams and all of that. Say. Think Cup Arrow was apparently watching Joseph during this time in jail, taking note of something about Joseph that he was willing then to to recommend Joseph Too Pharaoh, and I think that's an important little side point.

7:34 Yeah, he Joseph's been watched while he's in these terrible situations. Absolutely, and of course that reminds me of a principle again that we teach with our sidewalk counselors, is the principle of the we're not really out there primarily for the babies or for the women. Hey, we're out there for the Lord. Yeah, the Lord looks at what we're doing, he looks at our fatefulness. He sees US Day in and day out, serving in some some pretty brutal conditions, not just weather conditions, but you know, opposition. People come call you all kinds of names. You're trying to humbly serve the Lord and people are even passing by, maybe giving you the Middle Finger. Some of you guys experience that. Today I got shoved out of the way by what two hundred pound guy who is very angry because he didn't want me to talk to the women. Right. Yeah, so there's that and it's easy to get discourage. We have to remember we're doing this as unto the Lord, so we're always going to be victory, victorious, we're not going to be failures if we're doing it as unto the Lord. But it is easy and you can imagine the feelings that Joseph had while he was there in that dungeon. Here he has this promise from God and he's got this call from God, and you guys on the sidewalk, you've got this call from the Lord. You're out there because you feel the Lord has birds you with this call, but you feel like in one sense you're in a dungeon.

8:52 You got a place of darkness and death, at a place of a parent failure. But the Lord sees the fatefulness and it would be so easy for him during that time period to have become very discouraged. I and I don't think the Bible really addresses that. I don't know if he did. It doesn't seem like he did. Right, you did? It certainly isn't talked about. Right, he was discouraged or that he he said, Oh man, maybe that, maybe I misinterpreted that dream. or I really can't wait to get back at my brothers for what they did to me. Look at this terrible sequence of events that they began. Yeah, or you know, and what am I doing here in jail? Yeah, when God promised me so much. Yeah, I think you'd have to believe, just at least from a human perspective, that Joseph certainly dealt with those. You have to think. Yeah, and I would, you know, tend to believe that that's the case. Yeah, if you make a comparison there, here's a man in a dungeon and here we are on the sidewalk in America, with a lot of freedoms and all of that. Really a great count, really a great comparison, but it's sort of brings to mind this idea again that we need to be faithful to the Lord, that we're not failures as long as we're doing what we do as unto the Lord. So Joseph Story is one and it's a story. Maybe we look at it's just kind of a disconnected story. It's something that, yeah, we can relate to, but maybe not dire directly in our modern context. But I want you to share real quick the story that you shared. We shared it on our facebook cities for Life Charlotte facebook of the Custodian here local had ye, not an exactly

10:28 similar but here's a man that's fateful, that's doing what he's going on too. The Lord in the Lord uses right well and and I didn't share the whole story because it was kind of a long story, but it's well worth worth sharing. So this custodian had come to the love life prayer walks which our churches gathering and praying and marching around the circle loop that the abortion center is on. And so they knew of love life and they and the resources that love life provided and they knew of the sidewalk counselors. He had seen them, okay, had seen us in front of the abortion center. So the Custodian had served many long years, his entire life as a custodian faithfully, and it's time to retire. So he had retired and he discovered while in retirement, just as he's starting retirement, that there's a glitch in the pension. I didn't quite understand that part of the story, but for whatever reason he had to come out of retirement for one month. Wow, for just one month. He had to go back to work. Now, imagine that man, that cod of bomber. Right, you probably got plans.

11:41 Maybe and your wife are going to go on a have occasion somewhere. Had extended like, I don't know, trip out West or something like that. Connect with his wife and enjoy life and finally sit back in custodio work is not easy war on top of it, it's not glamorous work. I imagine it was hard in many ways to be a custodian. Humble work. Yeah, so, so the the but the custodian goes back to work and in that month he was cleaning a new school personnel. I'm not going to tell you what her job was, but she worked at a school and he his job was to clean her office. So he just meets her in that month.

12:22 Now, apparently, during that month, this God fearing, godly man who has faced now, in a sense, failure, disappointment at the very last he's backed. I know if I was retired and had to come out of retirement for like one day, I would be totally bombed. And he's got to do it for a month. And but but apparently he did his work in such a manner that the the woman, the school employee, knew that he was a Christian, or suspected, because she finds herself now, suddenly in after a month of the custodian cleaning your office, she finds out that she is pregnant and unexpected pregnancy and actually really bad circumstances. Yeah, and she doesn't know what to do. She knows that she cannot have this baby. She knows she has to abort. That's that's what she's feeling.

13:18 There is no other option but to abort this child. But there's a piece of her that knows maybe that's not the only answer, maybe it's not the best answer. So she goes into work and the custodian is there as she finishes her day and she says, Hey, we let me ask you, are you a Christian? And he said well, yes, and she said because I really need I need to talk to someone who knows God. She didn't know God, she was not a believer, and yet she knew that she needed to talk to someone who was. And the person that she chooses to talk to is, just as God would have it, this man who was only there because he had been called into an apparent failure out of retirement to for a month to clean her office. Yeah, and he's there at the exact appointed time. Yeah, that God has appointed. Yeah. And so the the Custodian then listens to her story and he said he was way out of his league right. He did not feel at all equipped. He he said. When later I spoke with him and and he told me, I had no idea what to tell her. She had significant tissues. I just didn't know what to do. So I prayed first of all. I took her out into the beautiful day and I said, do you see that

14:48 sun? Do you see that light that the sun is casting? That's where you need to be. You need to be in the light, not in darkness, and I can point you to people who can lead you to that light. Yeah, and so he prayed with her and then told her about Love Life Charlotte, and then told her about these sidewalk counselors who help women in dire situations like hers, and he asked if it would be okay if one of those sidewalk counselors called him, called her, and he contacted love life, who then contacted me and I called her and ultimately we had a huge, long discussion about God and about her circumstances. She I shared the Gospel, as I do with everyone when I'm given the opportunity. She came to the Lord and when I finished sharing the Gospel, I said, well now, could you still consider killing your baby now that you've asked Jesus to be Lord of your life and she said no, she could not, and so she chose life. Yeah, as well. And it was only it was only later that, and I don't even remember the kind of miraculous circumstances, where I met the counselor, I'm sorry, the Custodian, and and he told me the background of the story, which made it even more miraculous, and it just made me think a couple of things. Number One, when God has called us to whatever situation he's called us, and it may seem like a failing situation, a situation we just really do not want to

16:25 be in, but if he's calling us there, first of all go, yeah, go where he's calling you, like the Custodian did. He went, yeah, he went back and and and God had a divine appointment for him. But the second, I think major point, which I think is a major point for me in the Joseph Story, is people are watching. Yeah, people are watching us, perhaps more strongly in the periods of time when we're facing grave disappointment or failure. They're watching US and they're watching our walk with God, particularly Joseph in the story. I read nowhere that Joseph ever abandoned God or his faith in God, he seems to have. In fact, when he's asked to interpret the dreams, he shows a marked change in his character. He doesn't take the glory like he kind of did, kind of lorded it over his brother's he said you're going to bow down to me in the original dream, but now he says I can't, I can't interpret your dream, but my God can. So he gives God the glory.

17:33 So in this time of a parent failure and testing, he has come to a greater understanding of who God is and a greater of understanding of his own lack of strength and then need to bely on God's strength. And people are watching him, those people in prison. Potiphar was watching him. The people in prison were watching him and just as that woman was watching the Custodian, God ultimately is glorified, his purposes are realized and there's victory. And I think that's a just such an encouragement to us as sidewalk counselors, because we were also being watched in that story. This man, this custodian doing the prayer walk, saw us and new look at those people. They know what to do. I don't know what to do, but they they do.

18:23 They're trained. Yeah, and and he saw us in action as he's doing the prayer walk and it was us that he called. Yeah, yeah, and that speaks again to this faithfulness, unto the Lord, that we do what we do not for ourselves, not for our own glory. We certainly don't do it to try to earn favor with God. We were accused of that by some folks that you're out here to, from the pro abortion people. Out here to try to make yourself feel better here to try to earn points with God is like no God has already given us all the points he can give us in that he gave us Jesus to be our salvation. We're out there out of love toward him, right, and so when we're faithful toward him, God will see to it that our faithfulness is seen by others and I would say even even if we don't find out about it.

19:15 This is a promise that I always make. If you've listened to this podcast, you've heard me say this a lot, that if you are out there in ambortion center, if you are faithful to be out there, I can make two promises God will use you to save babies. Right. His word doesn't return void. Whe Do you find out about it or not? God is using your witness, your testimony, to be out there and just your presence out there to say babies. Yeah, and you're going to grow in areas of your life that you might not otherwise. Actually you definitely, I would say, won't otherwise grow. And one of those areas is one of faithfulness. The Bible says it's in proverbs twenty. I think it's for six. It says each man will proclaim his own goodness, but a faithful man who could find God is looking for faithful people. Jesus says, when the son of man returns, will he find faith on the earth? Is He going to find faithful people? As he looks in your city, wherever you are, across the United States or across the world? Is God looking in your city and is he finding faithful people? Are you faithful to do what God has called you to do, to be where God has called you to be? Because if you are just like that custodian, yeah, just like Vicki, whose faith will be out there in the sidewalk. Yeah, if your faithful, God is going to use you. Yeah, I re read a scripture here. This is Colossians chapter three and seventeen, and then I'm going to jump to verse twenty three, because these two scriptures are tied in together. And if you guys have an opportunity to just read the whole book of Collossians, as pretty sure it's a good book. Yeah, but Cassius chapter three speaks similarly to kind of what we're talking about in seventeen three, seventeen, it says, whatever you do in word or deed, do it

20:48 all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, or the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God, the father, through him. And skipping on the Verse Twenty Three. And whatever you do, do it hardly as unto the Lord and not to men. Yeah, it goes on a verse twenty four, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance, for you serve the Lord Christ. So again this puts things in its proper perspective, that we're not serving those babies and those mothers primarily, we're serving the Lord. We're serving God now because, like we often say, we have to love God first and then we can love our neighbor, because we're serving the Lord. We're serving those babies, but he's primary, he's the focus. Our faithfulness is to him. We serve the Lord Christ, like it says, the Lord Jesus, and so that's what that custodian was doing.

21:37 That's right and being faithful to the Lord. Yeah, and I think it helps us to reframe the whole idea of failure. Yeah, there is no failure in the Lord. There really is not. Whatever he has brought you to, there is a purpose to it. Yeah, and if you are truly working as to the Lord and not to men, you cannot fail. It may feel like failure by worldly standards, maybe it is, but not by God's yards. Yeah, by got standards. You're in that place for a reason and even those whatever terrible circumstances you're facing, yeah, for a reason. Well, that sort of speaks to just our experiences out there on the sidewalk. You know, we've been, and I say it's all by God's grace that I've been able to be out there for going away actually little over fifteen years, just being out there consistently, and our team's being out there for over ten years. Individuals just preaching out and we've really, lack of a better term, planted our roots deep there at the abortion center actually right down the road from here, not not too far from our office here, and we have, on a regular basis, women come who they're not coming to the abortion center. Actually, they're coming to us because we helped a friend of theirs right over the years. We helped them over the years and they got a difficult situation. Our desires, of course, to break that cycle of sin and destruction, but sometimes that cycle is not broken immediately when they choose life for their their baby, they get caught in another situation. Yeah, we are thankful, however, that they've observed our faithfulness

23:11 in such a way that, rather than going to the abortion center, they actually come to us, they come to the mobile unit or they just come and say, Hey, I know you guys helped me before. Will you help me again? Yep, yeah, and even to the point where we've had, and maybe you can recall this story, maybe share a little bit more that I'm sharing, but we've had people that work inside the abortion center right who hate us, yeah, until they realize that they need us. Right. We've even had people who are very close to some of the directors and some of the administrative folks come out to us because they knew that we could help them, right, because they were in a difficult pregnancy situation and they didn't want to have an abortion, even though they work for the abortion center, actually reach out to us. You want to recount any of that?

23:55 Right? I remember one story where I do remember some and some of them we actually are not allowed, because I'm sure laws, to tell who they were. But, like you said, they were pretty high up there and and they came on board the the mobile ultra sound unit, and we were just all like our eyes popping open, like, why did you come to us? I thought you hated our guts. But I do know of an another story where an abortion worker, she I think she was a nurse in in the abortion center and it was in the past seven years that I've been out there. I don't know exactly when, but where she had a woman who clearly just was so conflicted to the point that this worker told her, look, honey, you obviously don't want an abortion. There are people that will help you. Go Out and talk to those people on this sidewalk.

24:45 That's the abortion center. Yeah, telling I'm sure if anyone knew she had said that, they would have fired her. I'm sure if the people a management but but so are. Our actions speak louder than anything. We are there helping and end people are watching us. Yeah, watching US do that. So there's a second story. I don't know if we have time for me to tell. Yeah, the story very similar theme. That happened again within just the past three days, which is why this are we really failing when we think we're feeling are we really failing? And and and our answers no, but this was a day that it felt like failure. We've been out there, hot day, tons and tons of antagonism and opposition, no apparent baby saved. WE'RE CLEANING UP, we're packing all of our stuff away, feeling a little you can't help it, no matter how many times we tell you it's okay, we're there for the Lord. You do feel deflated. Yeah, when you haven't seen any apparent fruit. And a policeman comes and comes to me because I was still there. Again, it was it. He would have come to any of us, but I just happen to be the one that was still there. Yeah, and and he said Hey, we've got a mom at the police station, pretty desperate situation.

26:03 She left the abortion center and would you guys come talk to her? Yeah, so what's interesting? First, they didn't go to the abortion center and say, would would you go talk to this distraught woman that you have made so, so distraught, and would you help her? They didn't go to the pro choice crowd, who claims that we hate women and they're the ones that are there helping women. Well, why didn't they go to then, to those people that are supposedly helping women? They didn't even use their own police resources. There the cops. Why didn't they help the woman? They came to us. They didn't go to city council, who who is passed many laws hindering our ability to help these women. They came to us.

26:47 Yeah, and we dropped everything. I went zipping over to the police station and this woman was again. She had been very, very terrible. She had been tricked into going to the abortion center. She didn't know was an abortion center. Her mother had woken her up early in the morning, driven three hours to bring her to the abortion center, telling her she was going to a doctor appointment, and then the mother dropped her with the name of a counselor that she was supposed to go look for in the abortion center. Again, the girl doesn't know why she's there. She walks in, quickly figures out it's an abortion center and she believed very strongly abortion was wrong.

27:29 Yeah, she did not want to get this abortion. So she goes running out and her mother is gone. Her mother has left with the car is gone. The mother's gone, the mother's not answering the phone. All the girl had on her was her phone and a charger. No Mon me, she did have her ID. No car. She's she is abandoned, three hours from home and clearly I think she probably got a hold of the mother enough to say I'm not going to do it, and that's when the mother just said, basically, you're on your own. Yeah, wow. So, so we got her a free ultrasound, we got her launch, we we shared the Gospel with her. She was honestly, she ended up.

28:10 Just to kind of willow back you real quick, she was not at the latrobe abortion center, but she was at another abortion another abortion center around the corner. Yeah, and there's a police station not far from there. So apparently she either walked to the police station called the police. All them said what do I do? They gave her directions and said come to the police station and we think we know some people that can help you. Yeah, and that's when they came and got us and and we I was going on a long trip the next day and I didn't relish the idea of a six hour round trip drive, but I would. I would have, as would, I think, any one of our counselors had they been faced with the same situation. But it just happened the nurses, Sun was, who did the ultrasound for her, was going to be driving to her city that very day. Yes, God would have it again, I'm a miracle of God providing. And so we got this girl home, we got her launch, we got her help. We're going to be helping with a baby chower.

29:03 We we've connected her already with counseling services and with mentorship services in her city. But the the main point of that story is that we were being watched during all these apparent failures. The police out there. They see us a lot, they're out there a lot and some of them don't particularly like us either. They don't, and that was why this was almost shocking that. But who did they decide to go to? They've seen us in failure, because there is the most most people do aboard. So it does feel like failure after failure. They have observed us, but what they have observed is that we are faithful, that were always there, that we do what we say, that we love the Lord and that we were the ones that they went to get help for this woman. So that the apparent failure of that day or of the whole year or all the years that the police have been watching us, when women by the drobe still go into a board, maybe it's not failure. Maybe it's it's God allowing people to see my people will stand in the gap for me no matter what. Yeah, no matter what they face. Yeah, we're not pretending that it's at all easy. Oh No, day in and day out. Yeah, and you know, you may look those who are doing sidewall counseling nationally. Maybe you've looked on our facebook page and some of our blog posts and that sort of thing and you've

30:37 saw some of the fruit. And certainly God by His mercy. Yeah, we see baby saved on a regular Basi Do. Yeah, but if you look at the volume of babies that are being killed inside of that abortion center and compared to the volume of babies that are saved, if you did like a ratio analysis, the vast majority are killing their children. That's right, the vast majority of those that we reach out to. You might look at it and say, just you guys are failures. Yeah, the reality is, though, we're not if we're faithful to the Lord, and it's not just because we have these numbers of babies that were saved or whatever. Yeah, it's because we're faithful to the Lord. Were faithful to do what he's called us to do. So this is an encouragement to you guys. Continue to be faithful, continue to do what God has called you to do, and God is going to position you to be used in some of these ways.

31:27 You're going to have stories to tell of what God has done and your faithfulness is not overlooked, first and foremost by the Lord Right, but also by other people who are observing, by other people who are even maybe opposition people from the outside looking in. I mean I've even had some of our pro abortion opposition people say, I know you guys aren't going away because you know some of them. They're out there to try to get us to go away from that abortion center and telling Hey, till this place is closed, we're going to be here and we maybe even recognize we know that right. So even they might see our faithfulness and maybe it'll turn their horse. And I have another story that that. It's a quick one but one of the most. We've got this new crop of pro abortion people who really are very difficult and very, very adversarial. But one of them came to one of our other counselors and told her about a friend of hers who is in a very difficult situation and, in a mocking tone, said are you going to help her? And we said yes, and we did, and we did so they even knew. I think initially it was sort of mocking, but then I was the one that actually got called to help this friend and we actually had then another counselor be the one that contacted that friend. But I went to her like a couple days later and said you're the one that referred your friend, right, and she said yes, and I said, well, I want you to know we we've met, had several calls and and

32:58 we are helping her, and she was genuinely I think surprised but grateful. So again here you know, where you least expect it, people watching and noticing, and even your enemies can become your cheering squat. Yeah, because you're helping them. Yeah, but it all comes in faithfulness to the Lord. It does. Our faithfulness is never failure. Yeah, as long as our faithfulness is unto the Lord. Right, right. So I hope this podcast was an encouragement. Do you guys who all of our PODCASTS are? We again, like I started out, like to hear some feedback from you guys, some ideas for further episodes. That would be a blessing to y'all.

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