What To Say To Those Leaving The Clinic

WEBVTT100:00:00.960 --> 00:00:06.200I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me,200:00:06.519 --> 00:00:12.230Lord, I am yours, Iam yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel300:00:12.230 --> 00:00:17.789Center pre life podcast, a podcastdesigned to equip, encourage and challenge you400:00:17.910 --> 00:00:22.059in pro life ministry and always werethe focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned.500:00:24.059 --> 00:00:35.770I felt show passish, touch yourheart. Use Me. Welcome to600:00:35.890 --> 00:00:41.450the Gospel centered pro life podcast.We're here with Daniel Parks, who is700:00:41.689 --> 00:00:48.810on the left coast and surviving.Right Dan, I'm surviving and slightly thriving.800:00:49.649 --> 00:00:53.000Slightly thriving lightly, not as muchas he would if he was here,900:00:53.200 --> 00:00:56.880and he never said any small andstuff like that makes it hard to1000:00:57.039 --> 00:01:00.759thrive here. Smog and the aggainof the land of fruits and nuts or1100:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.549the fruit fruit cakes and no jobsthat are out here. And I actually1200:01:03.549 --> 00:01:07.510I'm in a good area. It'sa nice weather. Gosh, it's pretty1300:01:07.510 --> 00:01:11.030amazing and we've gone to the beachcouple times. It's been a blessing.1400:01:11.109 --> 00:01:15.469The People here who are love lifepeople are awesome people. Blessing getting to1500:01:15.590 --> 00:01:22.420serve alongside them and so and I'vealso gotten a head the pleasure. It's1600:01:22.459 --> 00:01:26.060not really a pleasure, but theexperience of visiting a lot of the abortion1700:01:26.180 --> 00:01:32.140centers around here and was seeing kindof what other people are doing and getting1800:01:32.140 --> 00:01:34.569to see obviously the devil's doing somestuff, destroying the lots of babies,1900:01:34.609 --> 00:01:38.450but also getting to see some reallycool things that the Lord is doing.2000:01:38.170 --> 00:01:42.810Just a real quick testimony. Someweeks ago, about two weeks ago,2100:01:42.890 --> 00:01:47.560we're in a another city, notwhere I'm at, but another city north2200:01:47.680 --> 00:01:51.920of where I am, and wewere praying, had some pastors out there,2300:01:52.000 --> 00:01:53.840some leaders out there, and wewere praying and one of the things2400:01:53.879 --> 00:01:57.200we specifically was praying is that womenwould run out of that place. And2500:01:57.239 --> 00:02:00.840I don't know if I shared thison a previous podcast or not, but2600:02:00.879 --> 00:02:04.750it was just really cool to seea young lady, about thirty minutes after2700:02:04.790 --> 00:02:07.710that, run out of the abortionclinic and she apparently got a glimpse of2800:02:07.750 --> 00:02:13.150her baby on the ultrasound saw herbaby's little feet at ten weeks. WHO's2900:02:13.270 --> 00:02:16.060life. And one of the guysthat was out there actually she needed a3000:02:16.099 --> 00:02:19.620job, was one of the reasonswhy she came to a boards because she's3100:02:19.620 --> 00:02:23.020just got fired from her job,needed a job, and he basically volunteered3200:02:23.060 --> 00:02:27.620to hire her on the spot.She just so happened to really be able3300:02:27.620 --> 00:02:30.689to fill a position that he neededfor his companies. It is really cool3400:02:30.810 --> 00:02:35.490to seeing what the Lord's doing andI really energized to send the the people3500:02:35.569 --> 00:02:38.650who have they're pretty brand new tothat. She were saying out there.3600:02:38.689 --> 00:02:42.810A lot of people are have neverreally been active on the sidewalks, so3700:02:44.169 --> 00:02:49.120it's really exciting. Yeah, andso they need this podcast, yeah,3800:02:49.240 --> 00:02:53.080which we're what we're going to talkabout today is just kind of a summary3900:02:54.120 --> 00:03:00.349of the key things to say orto ask MOMS as they're leaving the abortion4000:03:00.469 --> 00:03:05.629center, and we try to comeup with every general scenario you're going to4100:03:05.750 --> 00:03:13.219face so that you would have someidea of some good things to say as4200:03:13.659 --> 00:03:16.419these different groups are leaving. Yeah, yeah, I want to say this4300:03:16.699 --> 00:03:21.659to that, and we said itbefore. We said in the podcast about4400:03:21.659 --> 00:03:23.780building your teams and stuff, thatthere's this tendency for us to kind of4500:03:24.500 --> 00:03:27.889get in Chit Chat Mode. We'reout there with people that we love,4600:03:28.050 --> 00:03:30.849that we fellowship with, and thatreally can keep us from paying attention,4700:03:31.050 --> 00:03:37.050paying attention from the women going in, but also from the women and the4800:03:37.129 --> 00:03:39.849men coming out. Like we needto be very in tune, and this4900:03:39.969 --> 00:03:44.759is really important, guys. Weneed to be very in tune with what's5000:03:44.759 --> 00:03:47.960going on at that abortion center.Again, death is taking place, life5100:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.439and death scenaries are playing out beforeour eyes. So we should be in5200:03:52.560 --> 00:03:53.520tune. If we're going to ChitChat, if we're going to talk.5300:03:53.719 --> 00:03:59.509I don't think it's like gross sandto be talking there and encouraging each other,5400:03:59.870 --> 00:04:04.110as long as we're keeping the conversations, you know, not going way5500:04:04.229 --> 00:04:09.789off track with the conversations, liketalking about the braves one, the world5600:04:09.789 --> 00:04:14.580series or whatever, or extended.It's really not the pace for extended conversations5700:04:14.620 --> 00:04:16.899at all. Yeah, if youare going to have conversations, though,5800:04:16.899 --> 00:04:20.660a lot of times I'd like tohave my conversations standing side by side instead5900:04:20.699 --> 00:04:25.209of face to face and still lookingtoward the abortion center, because there's things6000:04:25.290 --> 00:04:28.610that happen that are going on there, people going in and out, that6100:04:28.730 --> 00:04:30.810you'll notice. You'll pick up patterns. You know, I think you and6200:04:30.889 --> 00:04:35.569I both we've kind of trained ourselfto where I can probably be in a6300:04:35.810 --> 00:04:43.319full end up theological conversation and whensomething happens I'm right tuned into it and6400:04:43.360 --> 00:04:46.480I shut that conversation off and Ifocus. If a MOM's walking out from6500:04:46.480 --> 00:04:48.759the abortion center to her car,I'm going to put that conversation on hole6600:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.000for a second, I'm going toaddress her and then I can take that6700:04:51.120 --> 00:04:55.389conversation back up. Not Everybody,I'm because we've been out there for a6800:04:55.470 --> 00:04:58.509long time when we kind of justI don't know, the Lord's giving us6900:04:58.550 --> 00:05:00.550that gift, I guess, ofbeing able to shift focus real quick and7000:05:00.589 --> 00:05:04.310then shifts focus back. Not Everybodyhas that gift. So you can,7100:05:04.430 --> 00:05:08.379you know, ask the Lord tohelp train you in that, but until7200:05:08.379 --> 00:05:12.300that happens, really just need tomake sure we're staying focused and, in7300:05:12.339 --> 00:05:15.620particular, what we're talking about today, staying focused and being able to address7400:05:16.100 --> 00:05:19.339the people that are coming out,whether they're, of course, walking out7500:05:19.379 --> 00:05:23.569of the abortion center. In somescenarios, you guys that are in New7600:05:23.610 --> 00:05:27.209York, that's the case right.They're not typically driving up, they're typically7700:05:28.089 --> 00:05:30.730walking out directly out of the dooronto the sidewalk and some of the other7800:05:30.810 --> 00:05:34.250cities that's the same way as foottraffic rather than a lot of vehicular traffic.7900:05:34.290 --> 00:05:38.879Corse at latrobe and the other abortioncenters in Charlotte they're driving into a8000:05:38.959 --> 00:05:42.399parking lot there and so as they'redriving out, these are some of the8100:05:43.000 --> 00:05:47.000things, either way when they're comingout of the abortion center, that we8200:05:47.439 --> 00:05:51.269think that are good to say.Yeah, and it is a really,8300:05:51.350 --> 00:05:56.230really good beginning advice. Stand sideby side, always be facing the door.8400:05:56.310 --> 00:05:59.550That's one of the first things Itrain our new counselors. Always have8500:05:59.750 --> 00:06:02.670your eyes on the door, unlessyou're specifically your team position is looking for8600:06:02.790 --> 00:06:06.019cars coming down the road. Yeah, but for anyone that's supposed to be8700:06:06.100 --> 00:06:11.540calling out to the women walking inor get another cars, you should always8800:06:11.819 --> 00:06:15.100be facing the door of the abortioncenter in the parking lot where the cars8900:06:15.139 --> 00:06:18.089are parked. Yeah, as opposedto turning to speak to someone. I9000:06:18.290 --> 00:06:23.810have seen people in conversation where theyget really deep into conversation and turned towards9100:06:23.889 --> 00:06:27.089each other and that's when they missed. So it's just a simple thing.9200:06:27.649 --> 00:06:30.649If you're going to be in aconversation, that is great a by standard,9300:06:30.730 --> 00:06:32.839just be side by side watching thedoor so that at any moment you9400:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.959can break that conversation because you learna lot. You can gather a lot9500:06:38.040 --> 00:06:42.319of a lot of clues about whetherthat woman has has had the pill,9600:06:42.639 --> 00:06:46.629surgical abortion. Maybe isn't even therefor an abortion at all. What she9700:06:46.790 --> 00:06:49.389was there for? You can pickup a lot. We can even overhear9800:06:49.470 --> 00:06:56.829conversation sometimes. Yeah, absolutely.We overheard one couple days ago that it9900:06:57.029 --> 00:07:00.230just looks suspicious and we thought itwas sex, sex trafficking. Yeah,10000:07:00.269 --> 00:07:02.980it was two guys in a girl, and then we overheard them talking about10100:07:02.980 --> 00:07:06.540the girls sister was going to bepicking her up. The Guy, one10200:07:06.579 --> 00:07:10.459guy, had paid another guy adropped her and it turned out, because10300:07:10.579 --> 00:07:13.339we could hear the conversation, itwas not what we had thought. Yeah.10400:07:13.420 --> 00:07:15.329So, yeah, so keep youreyes on the door or on the10500:07:15.370 --> 00:07:19.329people that you're ministering to in thehopes of learning as much as you can10600:07:19.449 --> 00:07:23.449and that'll guide you when they're leaving. Yeah, what, what to say10700:07:23.569 --> 00:07:26.329to them? Yeah, so it'sjust really focusing on what do we say10800:07:26.610 --> 00:07:30.439when they're leaving? Yeah, asopposed to when they're when they're coming in10900:07:30.079 --> 00:07:33.439and one of the first things isasked, did you change your mind?11000:07:33.720 --> 00:07:38.199Yeah, that's just pulling out.Yeah, as they're pulling out, we11100:07:38.519 --> 00:07:42.720I mean I think our counselors inCharlotte that's you going to hear that every11200:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.910time of a car pulls out andless. Of course there's this pattern where11300:07:45.910 --> 00:07:48.189you can see there's there's a lotof times the dad or drop them mother11400:07:48.310 --> 00:07:51.629off to have the abortion. He'llrun up to McDonald's. Sometimes he'll be11500:07:51.709 --> 00:07:55.110in and out, in and out, in and out. Obviously we're not11600:07:55.110 --> 00:07:57.750going to we're not going to saythat when we see a mom has gotten11700:07:57.910 --> 00:08:01.139out or coming out of the abortioncenter, goes to her car and she's11800:08:01.180 --> 00:08:03.819driving out, the dad's driving aroundor she's driving herself out, we're always11900:08:03.819 --> 00:08:07.220going to ask whether she stops ornot. Did you change your mind?12000:08:07.620 --> 00:08:09.860Sometimes you'll get like a thumbs up, sometimes you'll get them to stop and12100:08:09.899 --> 00:08:15.209and sometimes you know they didn't changetheir mind, but they want to stop12200:08:15.370 --> 00:08:18.689and whatever. Give you what forand how, and it just gives an12300:08:18.730 --> 00:08:22.490opportunity to say, you know,well, even if you didn't change your12400:08:22.529 --> 00:08:26.009mind, we still have resources,we have information to help you with post12500:08:26.009 --> 00:08:30.480abord of healing. So it justit can be open and it can be12600:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.960an opening to the conversation for otherthings rather than just yeah, I did12700:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.960change my mind. Okay. Well, if they did change their mind,12800:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.590then obviously there's some there's some furthersteps and some for the things you want12900:08:41.629 --> 00:08:46.389to share with them based on that. Right. But they is board because13000:08:46.389 --> 00:08:50.710if they did change their mind,oftentimes they won't stop, they won't give13100:08:50.750 --> 00:08:54.549any indication because they've been told notto, at least at the facility where13200:08:54.549 --> 00:08:56.940we serve. That may not betrue everywhere, though I think it is.13300:08:56.500 --> 00:09:00.460They are told don't talk to theycall US protester, don't talk to13400:09:00.539 --> 00:09:03.740them. They lie, don't.And so, knowing that, if you13500:09:03.899 --> 00:09:07.659say did you change their mind,they're more likely to stop and give some13600:09:07.860 --> 00:09:11.649indication whether they did or didn't.And why is that important? There's a13700:09:11.889 --> 00:09:16.809few reasons. One, you justsaid you you won't know what to offer13800:09:16.850 --> 00:09:18.809them if you don't know whether theyare post abord if now or whether they13900:09:20.570 --> 00:09:24.360now are in this terrible situation,but kept the baby and they need help14000:09:24.559 --> 00:09:28.519and they need resources. Right.So it's an important question. Yeah,14100:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.240yeah, so if they say theydid change their mind, one of the14200:09:31.320 --> 00:09:33.559next things I'm going to ask them. I'm not going to say you have14300:09:33.679 --> 00:09:37.159in this article. What change yourmind? That's actually not going to be14400:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.669my next question. If they sayyes, I did change my mind,14500:09:41.990 --> 00:09:43.350my next question is going to beokay. Well, how can we help14600:09:43.389 --> 00:09:46.350you? Can we give you ababy shower? Can we get you connected14700:09:46.389 --> 00:09:50.110with the mentor? Right, Imight even ask if the mobilder sound units14800:09:50.149 --> 00:09:54.299there, if I have a pregnancycenter that's close by. Well, would14900:09:54.299 --> 00:09:56.500you like to go to the pregnancycenter? It's just down the road,15000:09:56.820 --> 00:10:00.539because I know that that will serveto help and set her just yes,15100:10:00.580 --> 00:10:03.419I changed my mind, and thenleaving. That'll help get her connected,15200:10:03.580 --> 00:10:05.980because she came for some reason.Right, there's some struggles going on.15300:10:07.169 --> 00:10:09.970Those struggles are still going on,even if she changed her mind. We15400:10:11.049 --> 00:10:13.610want to help alleviate those struggles.We want to help ultimately disciple her and15500:10:13.690 --> 00:10:18.809lead her to the Lord. Right, and so trying to figure out what15600:10:18.929 --> 00:10:22.240those needs are. Okay, youchange your mind. Well, what can15700:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.879we do to help you? That'sgoing to be my next question and then15800:10:26.120 --> 00:10:31.120in the course of the conversation Iwill get into so what change your mind,15900:10:31.120 --> 00:10:35.600which is the next question that youhave in this in this article and16000:10:35.870 --> 00:10:41.669and hopefully in that when they aretalking with you, you're able to tell16100:10:41.669 --> 00:10:43.470them hate, you mind it.Pulling over and let me share. But16200:10:43.950 --> 00:10:48.230what what we can do so youmight have a long conversation. Arts our16300:10:48.309 --> 00:10:52.740experience often times as they just wantto leave and and you've got very limited16400:10:52.940 --> 00:10:56.779time. So you definitely you know, and we have done podcast on all16500:10:56.820 --> 00:11:00.379of these, I think in depth. We're kind of putting it all together16600:11:00.460 --> 00:11:03.370now in a summary. Yeah,of when people leave. But if they16700:11:03.450 --> 00:11:07.769did change their mind, you instantlydo want to get them the literature with16800:11:07.889 --> 00:11:11.809the numbers. Call your contact informationand yeah, that's good, Daniels saying.16900:11:11.450 --> 00:11:15.809Then, how can we help you? That's an excellent follow up question17000:11:15.929 --> 00:11:18.759to that. If I can kindof discern that they're in a hurry and17100:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.840they just want to leave. Yeah, sometimes I will ask. I maybe17200:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.679won't ask. What can we doto help you? I may say,17300:11:26.120 --> 00:11:30.759well, my numbers on the backof that literature or Vicky's number or you17400:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.470know, somebody whoever's numbers on theback of that literature. If we can17500:11:33.509 --> 00:11:37.830help you with anything, please callus or text us. We want to17600:11:37.909 --> 00:11:39.870help you. So I might sayit like that and then they course they17700:11:39.909 --> 00:11:43.230go on their way, but Ido want to make sure like really,17800:11:43.269 --> 00:11:48.620really important if they stop to getsomething in their hands and quite likely they17900:11:48.659 --> 00:11:52.379already have something. Maybe they gotto brochure when they went in, and18000:11:52.460 --> 00:11:56.139so I might just remind the hey, that brochure that you got on the18100:11:56.179 --> 00:11:58.980way and has a number on theback. Please call us as if we18200:11:58.100 --> 00:12:01.169can help you with anything. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Now,18300:12:01.210 --> 00:12:03.929if I can discern I will saysorry to note, you know, it's18400:12:03.970 --> 00:12:07.730okay. Next so that if Ican discern that they're willing to hang around18500:12:07.769 --> 00:12:11.970and to talk and if they're ina vehicle, of course, of this18600:12:11.049 --> 00:12:15.450is a vehicular traffic I'll ask himto pull over and, you know,18700:12:15.490 --> 00:12:18.879again I may ask them to goon the mobile unit. But you know,18800:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.639I want to try to really getI don't want to let it just18900:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.919be yeah, I chose life andthen leave. If I can help it,19000:12:26.960 --> 00:12:28.240all right, I want to getin two more depths, like what19100:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.870the struggle is, what's going on, how we can help them again to19200:12:31.950 --> 00:12:35.710get them connected to a mentor ifwe can do that, just to get19300:12:35.830 --> 00:12:39.149them connected it, because again they'regoing to go back into the same situation19400:12:39.309 --> 00:12:43.190they came out of. The Devil'sgoing to still try to be speaking the19500:12:43.230 --> 00:12:46.620same lies. Or if they choselife that day, I want to try19600:12:46.659 --> 00:12:48.340to ensure that they're not going tochoose to come back to the abortion the19700:12:48.379 --> 00:12:52.740next day because of the lies ofthe enemy. So I want to try19800:12:52.740 --> 00:12:56.379to cultivate that relationship with her andwith that that family that's come to that19900:12:56.460 --> 00:13:01.850abortion center and if you're really luckyyou can get their name and number.20000:13:01.009 --> 00:13:05.049Not that I believe in luck.I think we have to be intentional about20100:13:05.049 --> 00:13:07.730it, but if we can,the don't even ember, we should because20200:13:07.850 --> 00:13:13.559it a text goes a long way. I just had a mom gosh,20300:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.919I don't remember the specifics. AllI remember is, Oh, okay,20400:13:16.960 --> 00:13:22.200it was on facebook, of allplaces, this mom from years ago.20500:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.399She chose like years ago. Inever knew this she she wrote she's a20600:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.309facebook friend now because I've known hernow for years and years and years,20700:13:28.350 --> 00:13:33.629and she wrote we were we hadmentioned please pray for a mom who is20800:13:33.789 --> 00:13:39.710in the Valley of decision. Shechose life today, and this this mom,20900:13:39.190 --> 00:13:45.980my friend on facebook, said,well, you she'll be back tomorrow.21000:13:46.899 --> 00:13:52.379You better stay in touch. Andthen one of my friends, one21100:13:52.419 --> 00:13:56.129of the council friends, said,Oh, she was a solid choice for21200:13:56.289 --> 00:14:01.809life, and this this other momfrom my facebook friend said, well,21300:14:01.809 --> 00:14:07.649I thought I was too. Andthe next day I returned for an abortion21400:14:07.970 --> 00:14:13.799and here's the kicker. On theway to the abortion center, Vicky sent21500:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.399me a text and I turned aroundand went home. Yeah, I never21600:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.720knew that. I never knew that, but man, how important that is.21700:14:22.039 --> 00:14:26.389Yes, stay in touch in thein those first few hours if they've21800:14:26.429 --> 00:14:31.509changed their mind, if you canget their name and number, a text21900:14:31.149 --> 00:14:39.779a few hours lay leader is soimportant. And the next day just reiterating22000:14:39.860 --> 00:14:46.820a great Bible verse, the Thesanctity of that life, the baby's development,22100:14:46.059 --> 00:14:52.539something, because that for that woman, she remembered that as what turned22200:14:52.580 --> 00:14:54.649her away. I never even knewshe went back a second time. She22300:14:54.769 --> 00:15:00.889never told me that. Yeah,yeah, so now the next thing then,22400:15:00.929 --> 00:15:05.889if we get through all of thatstuff, I will ask if I22500:15:05.049 --> 00:15:09.519remember. I try to remember this, what changed your mind? Right,22600:15:09.639 --> 00:15:15.799and the reason I ask that isthat is such valuable information for us go22700:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.000moving forward in not only in howto minister to that mother, but to22800:15:20.159 --> 00:15:26.629know things that changed her mind mightchange someone else's mind. Right. Yeah,22900:15:26.669 --> 00:15:31.509and and so it's important to letteam members know what and especially it's23000:15:31.509 --> 00:15:39.340an encouragement if there's something that wasspecifically said or that she saw that a23100:15:39.500 --> 00:15:43.340team member had done or said orassign they held her whatever. Let that23200:15:43.460 --> 00:15:48.379team member know. It is suchan enormous encouragement. Yeah, for that,23300:15:48.500 --> 00:15:52.090for that team member. So that'sa really valuable question. Yeah,23400:15:52.129 --> 00:15:54.529yeah, absolutely, and that's yeah, that'll kind of give you ammunition for23500:15:54.610 --> 00:15:58.850the future. Like if there's acommon thing that these women say help to23600:15:58.889 --> 00:16:03.009change their mind he certainly want touse that, use that phrase or or23700:16:03.090 --> 00:16:07.360whatever to help change other women's minds, because many of these women come with23800:16:07.519 --> 00:16:15.759the same mindsets, different situations,some similar situations, but same mindsets,23900:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.669fears, grip them selfishness, allthe other things that calls us to sin,24000:16:21.549 --> 00:16:26.389and to be able to combat thatwith certain points of truth is really24100:16:26.470 --> 00:16:30.870powerful. You know, we justinterviewed another mom for a video that we're24200:16:30.909 --> 00:16:34.700going to be doing and she toldme that and she was back several times24300:16:34.779 --> 00:16:38.940to aboard. One of the Timeswhat changed her mind was she was in24400:16:38.980 --> 00:16:44.340the back room again, ready tohave the abortion and she heard the words24500:16:44.740 --> 00:16:49.169of a pastor over the microphone sayingyour baby is precious in the sight of24600:16:49.250 --> 00:16:52.809God, with the plan and apurpose. Please don't harm your child,24700:16:52.929 --> 00:16:56.730and that was you, Daniel.Well, she heard you. So,24800:16:56.889 --> 00:17:02.720so it's it's it's it's important forus to know that. Now we knew,24900:17:02.759 --> 00:17:06.759because this woman told us, whatchanged her mind. I know we're25000:17:06.839 --> 00:17:10.160heard in the back room and weknow that that the word if we're on25100:17:10.240 --> 00:17:11.920a microphone at least in our facility. I know not everyone has that,25200:17:12.000 --> 00:17:15.829that wonderful opportunity, but we do. And if you do know that,25300:17:15.869 --> 00:17:22.069that those words, when that womanis at the she was ready to abhort,25400:17:22.589 --> 00:17:26.349you know, on the table andshe heard you. So what changed25500:17:26.349 --> 00:17:30.420your mind? Really it really goodquestion. Yeah, absolutely, and now,25600:17:32.059 --> 00:17:33.500unfortunately, oh, go ahead.was there's something else on that?25700:17:33.579 --> 00:17:36.579Well, I was just going tokind of go to the next point,25800:17:36.579 --> 00:17:40.900which is, okay, do youtake the abortion pill? I'm always as25900:17:40.980 --> 00:17:45.529they're coming out and I have anyinkling of suspicion that they may have taken26000:17:45.529 --> 00:17:49.650the abortion pill, I'm always goingto assume that they have. If they're,26100:17:49.970 --> 00:17:52.009you know, if they're they areon an abortion day, at Plant26200:17:52.089 --> 00:17:57.210parenthood or if they fit kind ofthat age demographic, you know, one26300:17:57.210 --> 00:18:02.000Thousan eighteen to twenty five. I'mgoing to always say, if you've taken26400:18:02.039 --> 00:18:07.079the abortion pill, go to abortionpell reversalcom. So I'm likely not even26500:18:07.119 --> 00:18:10.559going to ask this question. I'mjust going to assume that they have,26600:18:11.079 --> 00:18:14.430or I'm going to put that caveat. If if you've taken the abortion pill,26700:18:14.470 --> 00:18:18.150go to abortion pill reversalcom. Nowthey stop and talk and I get26800:18:18.230 --> 00:18:22.109into a more in depth conversation.I will get into that. Did you26900:18:22.190 --> 00:18:26.230take the abortion pill? And thenI'll write really heavy focus on the abortion27000:18:26.269 --> 00:18:29.019pell reversal. I would really heavyfocus. If they tell me, yes,27100:18:29.059 --> 00:18:30.980I took the abortion pill, thatI'll talk about, of course,27200:18:32.099 --> 00:18:34.099the risks that are involved with that. I'll talk about what's actually going to27300:18:34.140 --> 00:18:37.420happen to the baby and then I'mgoing to talk, of course, about27400:18:37.420 --> 00:18:42.650the abortion pell reversal. Yeah,yeah, and the conversation for me is27500:18:42.809 --> 00:18:47.970different if they say no and thenI say, did you have a surgical27600:18:48.049 --> 00:18:52.450abortion, because they may have beenfor some other reason. If you know,27700:18:53.170 --> 00:19:00.039the first question is not always didyou have the abortion? But so27800:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.480they might be there for check upwhatever, there might be other things,27900:19:02.839 --> 00:19:06.559but if they had a surgical abortion, I'm going to have a different discussion28000:19:06.599 --> 00:19:10.349with them then if they had thepill abortion with the exactly what you said28100:19:10.349 --> 00:19:14.029that's exactly, I think, whereeveryone should focus on abortion pill reversal.28200:19:14.869 --> 00:19:18.589I would probably not be sharing alot of the gain. Yet the message28300:19:18.630 --> 00:19:23.339of forgiveness, or I would talkabout God's repentance and God's given you a28400:19:23.420 --> 00:19:29.660second chance here, but with asurgical abortion. I do want to introduce28500:19:29.819 --> 00:19:33.539the idea of repentance, but Ido also want to introduce the idea of28600:19:33.619 --> 00:19:41.730forgiveness. Yeah, I don't wantsomeone leaving with an irreversible act that many28700:19:41.970 --> 00:19:51.250believe is going to condemn them tohell and with no opportunity of ever changing28800:19:51.369 --> 00:19:56.200that outcome. So it's that istricky because you don't want to give them28900:19:57.000 --> 00:20:04.799an easy grace, but I dothink introducing the idea of repentance and forgiveness29000:20:04.839 --> 00:20:10.150is is if possible, if theygive you that amount of time. Again,29100:20:10.190 --> 00:20:12.670we have literature we hand to them. If they say that, yeah,29200:20:12.670 --> 00:20:17.670they had the surgical abortion, I'llask how they feel about it.29300:20:17.869 --> 00:20:19.390Oftentimes I'll say, Oh, I'mokay, I had to do it.29400:20:19.509 --> 00:20:22.980I'm they'll say I'm good and thatit's an opportunity to say. Well,29500:20:23.259 --> 00:20:30.460honestly, it's not good. It'snot good that that your innocent child died29600:20:30.619 --> 00:20:37.410today and and let me give yousome some healing information, and will hand29700:20:37.450 --> 00:20:41.529them our literature with person aboard ofhealing am and talk about that there is29800:20:41.769 --> 00:20:49.799healing, but but that this wasnot a wonderful thing that they did write,29900:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.799whatever words you use, it's it'snot easy. It is not easy.30000:20:55.839 --> 00:20:59.680Yeah, I don't want to comedown to harshly because I do want30100:20:59.720 --> 00:21:04.630them to look over that literature andknow that healing is possible and forgiveness is30200:21:04.710 --> 00:21:11.829possible. Yeah, yeah, sosometimes they say no, they weren't here30300:21:11.869 --> 00:21:15.750for an abortion, and then thatthe next question as well. In Our30400:21:15.869 --> 00:21:18.380facility, which is not a planparenthood, and we are going to talk30500:21:18.420 --> 00:21:22.019about what might be a question thatyou would ask if it was plan parenthood,30600:21:22.059 --> 00:21:25.819where they do many different things.Did you have a check up?30700:21:25.859 --> 00:21:30.059Yeah, and if they say yes, then then we go in. I'll30800:21:30.099 --> 00:21:36.569go into our are you feeling sad? How do you feel about the abortion?30900:21:37.329 --> 00:21:41.089And by the time they're coming backfor a checkup, sometimes remorse has31000:21:41.089 --> 00:21:45.369begun to set in. And Yeah, that's an opportunity to say, you31100:21:45.450 --> 00:21:51.720know, can I pray with you? We will provide a mentor, if31200:21:51.799 --> 00:21:57.279they're willing, that will walk themthrough the Lord, the Gospel and,31300:21:59.519 --> 00:22:03.990you know, finding healing and inChrist, as well as you know the31400:22:04.069 --> 00:22:08.470healing healing resources, which they maynot have gotten the first time they left,31500:22:08.509 --> 00:22:11.309right. Yeah, of course.Yeah, quite likely they haven't.31600:22:11.349 --> 00:22:15.619So you have they're coming back fora follow up appointment after having a surgical31700:22:15.660 --> 00:22:21.700abortion or the abortion pill. It'sgood to ask and it's going to be31800:22:21.740 --> 00:22:25.500able to minister to them based onthat and to bring the truth of the31900:22:25.579 --> 00:22:29.500Gospel to them. Yeah, yeah, if they say no to all those32000:22:29.500 --> 00:22:36.089things and they're dressed up that wecan surmise there probably there for a job.32100:22:36.410 --> 00:22:38.690Yeah, they're probably there for ajob really valuable. Yeah, I32200:22:38.930 --> 00:22:45.480actually see the turnover rate for employeesof abortion centers is pretty high, and32300:22:45.640 --> 00:22:49.519so it's actually pretty common to seepeople coming in for a job interview and32400:22:49.920 --> 00:22:53.440I don't know if maybe that's apodcast for another day to really talk about32500:22:53.440 --> 00:22:57.119what do you do for these thesepeople that are coming for a job interview32600:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.349the abortion center? Maybe it's notenough to cover in a whole episode.32700:23:00.950 --> 00:23:04.269So just covered real quick. Ifwe want to speak the truth, right,32800:23:04.349 --> 00:23:08.710we want to warn them that whatthey'll be involved in will be taking32900:23:08.750 --> 00:23:11.269the lives of babies. We don'tneed to hold back that truth. Like33000:23:11.349 --> 00:23:15.740they're going to be involved in themurder of children, and this is salary33100:23:15.819 --> 00:23:18.619will be paid by the blood ofbabies. I say that outright. That33200:23:18.660 --> 00:23:21.259might be a little harsh, butI do say that, and I have33300:23:21.339 --> 00:23:25.460found that people really respond to thatsign, if their heart is at all33400:23:25.500 --> 00:23:27.730inclined towards God, you respond tothat. Yeah, because you've got to33500:23:27.809 --> 00:23:32.930take away that overlay, that figleaf of this is I'm just here to33600:23:33.009 --> 00:23:37.809help women with their healthcare needs.No, you're not. They kill babies33700:23:37.849 --> 00:23:41.329inside of that place, even planparenthood that does know they do other things33800:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.119besides abortion. Still they're killing children. You're still a part of that,33900:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.519even if you're even if you're workingin the call center, you're still a34000:23:49.200 --> 00:23:53.960part of that. Your money thatyou're paid is still paid from abortions like34100:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.549that. Is Plan parenthoods bread andbutter, of course, any of these34200:23:57.589 --> 00:24:03.349abortion centers. That's that's their biggestmoney maker. And so, yeah,34300:24:03.390 --> 00:24:06.549reminding them if they are there fora job, which again, it's probably34400:24:06.950 --> 00:24:10.059not on many of you guys radarlike that some something you're going to ask34500:24:10.099 --> 00:24:12.259somebodies are coming out with. Ifthere's indications there, I think there can34600:24:12.259 --> 00:24:18.819be conversations around that particular subject inthat particular situation that can actually be redemptive34700:24:18.900 --> 00:24:22.140for these people. Right, spen, very much sharing the trey much scrupill34800:24:22.180 --> 00:24:26.130set you free any contrast, tobe any bondage to the abortion industry.34900:24:26.170 --> 00:24:30.410Yeah, it challenges their sense ofHey, I'm a I'm a wonderful follower35000:24:30.529 --> 00:24:34.170of the Lord. If you're hereto get a job an abortion center,35100:24:34.450 --> 00:24:40.119you should probably be think that areyou? Are you following God? Another35200:24:40.200 --> 00:24:42.319thing I hear a lot is it'sjust a job. Well, it's just35300:24:42.480 --> 00:24:47.519a job where babies pay your salary. The death of babies paciers salary.35400:24:47.599 --> 00:24:52.359That's not just a job right that? That's being complicit in in the murder35500:24:52.519 --> 00:24:57.029of innocent unborn people. Yeah,so there was this just happened just a35600:24:57.190 --> 00:25:02.829couple of days ago where it's oneof the abortion workers left. told us35700:25:02.869 --> 00:25:06.589that she left and this was kindof funny. We asked her why,35800:25:06.670 --> 00:25:08.380why did you leave? She quitthat day, right in front of us.35900:25:08.420 --> 00:25:12.140She came out. She had walkedin there with a baby in a36000:25:12.380 --> 00:25:17.299car seat. Yeah, and andas she left, the abortion center.36100:25:17.380 --> 00:25:19.420We asked, we are calling outto her, we don't know who we36200:25:19.500 --> 00:25:23.089think she's a mom going into aboard and she said I worked here,36300:25:23.289 --> 00:25:26.569I just quit. And as shepulled out, I you know, I36400:25:26.890 --> 00:25:32.410gave her literature, said we wouldhelp her find new work and because we36500:25:32.529 --> 00:25:33.970do have a volunteer that can helpwith that, and I said what changed36600:25:34.049 --> 00:25:41.559your mind? And and she saidthey don't respect babies in there. Yeah,36700:25:41.599 --> 00:25:45.559no, kidding. Didn't you know? Kidding. So let's move along36800:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.839to the next couple of points wehave here. So as they're pulling out,36900:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.190as they're walking out of the abortioncenter and the the good thing is37000:25:52.269 --> 00:25:56.990asked, are you a friend?Like if you ask them are you here37100:25:56.029 --> 00:26:00.470from abortion? Of course she gotto read the clues and stuff like that.37200:26:00.190 --> 00:26:03.500If you've watched the scenario where twoladies have come in together, one37300:26:03.539 --> 00:26:06.980of them walks into the abortion center, the other stays out in the car37400:26:07.059 --> 00:26:10.180and you got one of them pullingout, then you can ask them are37500:26:10.539 --> 00:26:12.859you here with a friend, andthat can kind of springboard into a conversation37600:26:12.900 --> 00:26:17.339about getting their friend out of thatplace. Right. So again you've got37700:26:17.380 --> 00:26:22.170to be attentive, paying attention towhat's going on. Especially you'll see a37800:26:22.210 --> 00:26:25.609lot of times the DADS. They'llbring a girlfriend in and then they'll be37900:26:25.690 --> 00:26:29.450pulling out. That's an opportunity againto strike up a conversation with him and38000:26:29.609 --> 00:26:32.920to challenge him encourage him to goback in there and get her out of38100:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.359that place. Yeah, if they'renot there for a friend, they might38200:26:37.440 --> 00:26:41.200be there selling supplies or services,and I will ask that. If they're38300:26:41.200 --> 00:26:42.920none of the above, that andif that, we did a podcast on38400:26:44.039 --> 00:26:45.960that. Again, it's very similarto if they're there for a job,38500:26:47.390 --> 00:26:52.910do you really want your business tobe involved with this business that kills kills38600:26:52.029 --> 00:26:56.349babies. Yeah, now, alot of people are from a plan parenthood38700:26:56.549 --> 00:27:00.349that are going to be listening tothis podcast and they they have unique challenges38800:27:00.509 --> 00:27:04.900because the plan parenthood does some manyother things. So it's harder, as38900:27:06.019 --> 00:27:08.819they leave, what to ask them. We you can ask all these things,39000:27:10.779 --> 00:27:15.700just prefacing it. If you werehere for whatever, yeah, but39100:27:15.890 --> 00:27:21.450oftentimes they're there for the other services. Yeah, and you know whatever the39200:27:21.569 --> 00:27:26.130other things that Plant parenthood does,besides kill babies and offering them low cost39300:27:26.210 --> 00:27:30.519community alternatives is, I think,one of the most effective things that we39400:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.400can do, as well as astalking about the Lord. And if they39500:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.119are leave for do they really wantto be involved in any way with a39600:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.559facility? And now, matter howcheap it is for the other services,39700:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.279like birth control, whatever, doyou really want to be involved with me39800:27:45.309 --> 00:27:48.269an organization that kills babies? Yeah, one of the conversations that I had39900:27:48.630 --> 00:27:55.269recently with a woman at an abortioncenter who was not there for abortion,40000:27:56.109 --> 00:27:59.140and I believe she was actually goingin rather than coming out. But I40100:27:59.259 --> 00:28:03.700think this still applies, because sometimespeople are more inclined to stop on the40200:28:03.779 --> 00:28:07.299way out than they are on theway in. And so this this lady40300:28:07.339 --> 00:28:11.380stops and talks and she's there forbirth control. And I've had situations where40400:28:11.380 --> 00:28:12.529somebody stops and they're on the wayout and they say, yeah, I40500:28:12.569 --> 00:28:15.970was here for birth control. NotAlways want to plant those seas at listen,40600:28:17.049 --> 00:28:18.890there are other places. First I'llask what do you what do you40700:28:18.930 --> 00:28:23.210feel about abortion? And most ofthe time they're like, I don't agree40800:28:23.250 --> 00:28:26.160with it, but you understand.You were just in a place that does40900:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.799abortions, even though you don't agreewith it. Still, would you want41000:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.400to have any association with a placethat kills children and then I'll give them.41100:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.960Here's a place down the road thatdoes everything plant parenthood does, but41200:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.880they do it for free, becauseplant parent had charges for everything they do.41300:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.430By the way, everything they dohas a has a price tag associated41400:28:44.470 --> 00:28:48.269with it. And so you reallywant to be associated with this place,41500:28:48.150 --> 00:28:52.390and why would you want to be? And why wouldn't you go to these41600:28:52.430 --> 00:28:55.150places? I'm planting those seats forthe future. And actually had one young41700:28:55.230 --> 00:28:57.259lady not long ago say, yeah, I'm never coming here again. I'm41800:28:57.259 --> 00:29:00.059going to I'm going to take thislist. So I'm going to I'll go41900:29:00.180 --> 00:29:03.380to these other places this this onelady I talk to, though, she42000:29:03.500 --> 00:29:07.259was going in. She was saying, I'm here for birth control. I42100:29:07.299 --> 00:29:11.890don't agree with abortion, but youknow this is where I get my birth42200:29:11.930 --> 00:29:15.609control, and so I kind ofuse a little bit of an analogy to42300:29:15.690 --> 00:29:18.609take it out of because so manypeople think of abortion in this kind of42400:29:18.730 --> 00:29:25.200ideal, ideological political realm that tryto bring it a little closer to home42500:29:25.559 --> 00:29:27.160for her, because I was explaininghere and you know they do abortions in42600:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.799there, and she's like yeah,I know, but I don't agree with42700:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.920that, but I'm not doing that. I said, well, how would42800:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.160you feel if I told you theyhold Ku Kuk Klan meetings inside of there42900:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.069and then they do other things?You know, they have birth control and43000:29:40.269 --> 00:29:42.710they do other things there, butthey also hold Ku Klux Klan meetings in43100:29:42.750 --> 00:29:47.670there and so their staunch racists.Would you still be willing to go in43200:29:47.750 --> 00:29:51.509there? And she's like no,I don't think I would feel comfortable doing43300:29:51.549 --> 00:29:56.980that. So what's worse? Racismor murder? ME, both are bad,43400:29:57.180 --> 00:30:00.619we abhor both. We don't wantto be associated with either one of43500:30:00.660 --> 00:30:04.220those things. But murders far worsethan racism, right, and yet you43600:30:04.299 --> 00:30:07.769don't want to be associated with racism, but you do want to be associated43700:30:07.809 --> 00:30:12.089with murder. That that doesn't makesense to me. And unfortunately she still43800:30:12.089 --> 00:30:15.730walked inside of that place, butI think it did cause her a little43900:30:15.730 --> 00:30:18.650bit of a little bit of concernand thinking through, you could tell her44000:30:18.690 --> 00:30:22.920wheels are spinning. So I cannot be back the next time. I44100:30:22.559 --> 00:30:27.480would yes, you probably won't.Yeah. So yeah, again, like44200:30:27.640 --> 00:30:33.000with everything, we're planting seeds.We're trying to just help folks to understand44300:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.549the truth about what's going on insideof that place. Whether they're coming in44400:30:36.710 --> 00:30:40.950or they're going out, and Ithink to sort of wrap this podcast up44500:30:41.390 --> 00:30:45.349and just end where we started.It is important because we're dealing with a44600:30:45.430 --> 00:30:51.579life and death situation and because there'sso many lies that that place perpetuates,44700:30:51.660 --> 00:30:56.619that those abortion clinics plant, parenthood, FPA, a preferred woman's Cell Center,44800:30:56.660 --> 00:30:59.579whatever. They so many lies thatthey perpetuate that we need to do44900:30:59.700 --> 00:31:03.779everything we can to plant seeds oftruth, when they're going in, of45000:31:03.940 --> 00:31:07.410course, but also when they're goingout. That requires US paying attention,45100:31:07.529 --> 00:31:12.609it requires us being diligent, itrequires us not growing weary and welldoing as45200:31:12.690 --> 00:31:17.250the day progresses. You've been outthere for two hours, you're going on45300:31:17.410 --> 00:31:22.279your third hour being out there andyou're you're kind of ready to go.45400:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.200Don't lose hard, don't grow wearyand welldoing. Finish well and your last45500:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.960hour out there and as cars arecoming out, engage with them as well,45600:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.509because one of the things that I'vesaid often times that we say these45700:31:34.630 --> 00:31:40.630women need Jesus just as much comingout as they do going in, and45800:31:40.710 --> 00:31:42.109so, if nothing else, weneed to be reaching the women that are45900:31:42.150 --> 00:31:48.140coming out who've had an abortion orwho've taken the abortion pill and planting seeds46000:31:48.180 --> 00:31:52.099of truth and watering the seeds,quite possibly that another councilor planted on the46100:31:52.140 --> 00:31:55.940way in, and so that's justan important thing. whope you guys are46200:31:55.980 --> 00:32:00.740encouraged by this. Hope you werechallenged by this podcast and, as always,46300:32:00.779 --> 00:32:04.569would love for you to reach outto us with future episodes of suggestions46400:32:04.650 --> 00:32:07.170for subjects that we can cover.We'd love to cover those subjects. Would46500:32:07.170 --> 00:32:12.450love for you to reach out withquestions that you have. Certainly would encourage46600:32:12.450 --> 00:32:15.160you guys to be praying for usand just praying for the Ministry of love46700:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.720life as it's sweeping across the nation, although there are, of course,46800:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.000challenges that are going to come.The Devil's not going to let us just46900:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.720pillage his territory without fighting back.So we're seeing some opposition. We know47000:32:25.839 --> 00:32:30.829that's how it is and I knowyou guys see that opposition on a regular47100:32:30.869 --> 00:32:32.349basis as well. If you're outthere on the sidewalks who know that we're47200:32:32.390 --> 00:32:36.150praying for you. Please pray forus again. Please reach out to us.47300:32:36.150 --> 00:32:38.069You can reach me Daniel Love LifeDot Org. Reach her, Vicky47400:32:38.230 --> 00:32:42.990at love life don't work, butuntil next time. God bless God,47500:32:43.069 --> 00:32:53.900bless y'all. Give me our lovefor love. Give me our love for47600:32:54.140 --> 00:33:07.289gratitude. I know it will costme my love. Nothing's too precious,47700:33:07.609 --> 00:33:07.930and some you