Sept. 15, 2022

What Planned Parenthood Says About US

What Planned Parenthood Says About US

The abortion industry is vested in dissuading abortion-minded women from talking with pro-life organizations. In this episode, we share an article written by Planned Parenthood on some of the tactics they use to discourage women from talking to us and how to circumvent these tactics.

https://sidewalks4life.com/equipping-articles/

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.639 They say that some of these people on the sidewalk might call themselves sidewalk counselors 2 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:09.240 and they might try to be nice, but they are giving false information, 3 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:17.280 some might be aggressive, they give inaccurate depictions of abortion and their goal is 4 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:22.640 to shame or intimidate you. And sometimes we pretend to be the real clinic 5 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:29.079 escort. I Am Yours, I'm yours, I'm yours, and me, 6 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:35.600 Lord, I'm yours, I'm yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center Pro 7 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:41.079 Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you in pro 8 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:45.039 life ministry, and always with a focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned. 9 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:59.520 I felt your passh touch your heart. Lord, use me. Welcome back 10 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.600 to the GAL well centered pro life podcast. Appreciate you, guys, joining 11 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:06.000 us. We're blessed to bring you these episodes. We hope that these episodes 12 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:08.519 are blessing to you. I do want to mention, as I try to 13 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:14.280 mention, but don't mention in every episode, but probably should, our website, 14 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:18.879 Gospel centered pro life dot Com. That's for this podcast and if you 15 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:22.000 want to get some of the other episodes, maybe you Um, I don't 16 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:26.040 know how you listen to people listen on Youtube because our stuff is uploaded on 17 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:30.920 Youtube. People listen on apple podcasts and listen on Google podcasts and all kinds 18 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.319 of other stuff, spotify and all of that, but that website is a 19 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:38.480 central location for all of our episodes. So if you want to search other 20 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.599 episodes that we've done, maybe subjects that you're interested in, my guess is 21 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:47.359 we've probably done an episode about whatever subject you're thinking of or we've done an 22 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:52.400 episode that includes stuff about that particular subject Um. If not, we always 23 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:55.439 encourage you guys to reach out and just give us some suggestions. We just 24 00:01:55.480 --> 00:02:00.280 did a podcast episode from a suggestion from a listener about dealing with babies that 25 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:05.040 have fetal abnormalities and how to answer those issues and that sort of things that 26 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.560 we'd love to hear from you guys. I'll give you guys our email addresses 27 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:09.960 at the end of this but let's jump into this episode. What are we 28 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:14.039 talking about, Vicky? We're talking about, it's kind of a fun one. 29 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:20.800 What planned parenthood is telling clients about us as sidewalk counselors, and I 30 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:24.680 do want to remind all of our listeners what we often say that when we're 31 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:28.520 on the sidewalk. We try to keep to the three main talking points. 32 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.479 What God says about the baby, resources and humanity of the baby, and 33 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:37.159 that is true and that is where the bulk of our discussion with the Women 34 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.800 Um at the abortion center should center, on those three main areas. However, 35 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:47.000 they are being told lies by planned parenthood about us. They're being told 36 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:52.280 many things about us. This article was I found it. It is an 37 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:58.439 official document put up by planned parenthood and Um and it is called five ways 38 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:01.719 to help you deal with and tie abortion protesters. I read the whole article 39 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:07.479 and I think it is important sometimes for us as sidewalk counselors to counter some 40 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:13.479 of these main points, because the women are being told these things about us 41 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:17.840 and it really can prevent them from wanting to approach us. So I think 42 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:23.120 we need to expose the darkness, expose the lives. We are called Biblically 43 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.759 to do that. I wouldn't spend my whole time on the sidewalk doing this, 44 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.280 but I think if, if the spirit moves you, there are times 45 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:35.680 when when exposing the lives are about what they're saying and it's kind of a 46 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:38.479 natural thing anyway. If someone says, well, they told me not to 47 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:40.840 talk to you because of this. It's very natural for us to say, 48 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:45.280 well, they're actually lying to you because they know that we have information that 49 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:49.000 would dissuade you from having an abortion. Yeah, Um, so, yeah, 50 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.960 there's nothing wrong with engaging along these lines. You just don't want your 51 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:55.639 whole conversation to center around us against them sort of stuff. I also want 52 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:59.759 to mention too, that for a lot of people, planned parenthood is some 53 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:04.080 oonymous with abortion clinic. Right a plant parenthood, um is abortion clinic, 54 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:09.280 and we think of there's even when people talk about Latrobe, they talk about 55 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:12.919 going out to Plant parenthood. This latrobe abortion center is not a plant parenthood 56 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:15.360 and, as a matter of fact, some people don't know this. I've 57 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:18.560 mentioned this in other episodes. In California because that's where a lot of my 58 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:24.639 focus is. Actually, the F P, a organization family planning associates, 59 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:30.399 does more abortions in California Than Plant parenthood does. Um. So I'm saying 60 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:34.759 that because this is what Plant parenthood says, but this is what commonly every 61 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:40.399 abortion center, Plant parenthood is. It's the giant, it's the Goliath and 62 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.639 it really sets the tone for all the other abortion centers like they're. They're 63 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:48.839 the leader in the abortion industry movement, right. And so whether you're at 64 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:51.560 a plant parenthood or whether you're at an F P A, whether you add 65 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:57.800 a privately owned abortion center or whatever, these are common ways that they view 66 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:00.480 us and common things that they say to their clients that are coming in. 67 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:05.560 We knew that from conversations we've had. We've had with women and also conversations 68 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:10.120 we had with abortion workers. They quit. Here's the here's the things that 69 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.519 they tell us to tell the clients so they don't stop and talk with you 70 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:16.639 guys. Right, right. So it's it's quite long the article because what 71 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:20.920 I did when I when I wrote at the article talking about this article, 72 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:27.720 is I would actually cut and paste portions of the actual article by planned parenthood 73 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:31.759 and then I put right below each segment our response. So we're kind of 74 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:35.319 going to have fun with this. So so the Um well, the first 75 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.319 thing, and I'm not going to read the whole thing, I'm going to 76 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:42.680 pick some highlights from the first paragraph, is that the women are going to 77 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:49.040 face vocal protesters who don't believe in your right to sexual and reproductive health services 78 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:53.959 and education and they shouldn't be allowed to keep you from the health care you 79 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:58.920 need and deserve. So then we will. We can respond in many ways 80 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.120 to this. First of all, we're not protesters, right. We are 81 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:05.000 not protesters. Right. We're not out here to protest and, you know, 82 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.920 to pick it or whatever. Not that that's wrong. You guys. 83 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.560 If you've watched our trainings, you know that we talk about the contrast between 84 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.399 what we're doing and protesting. What we're doing is not protesting. We're out 85 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.639 there proclaiming the truth, throughout there, offering help and hope. We're reaching 86 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:23.879 out too. I mean, if we're protesting, then so was planned parenthood 87 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:29.079 right there protesting. I mean in their very article here they're protesting, Um, 88 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.319 the anti choice protesters, and counter protesting us just with this article, 89 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:39.079 supposedly. Um. I will say this, though, anti abortion, that 90 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:43.639 that's seen as like a pejorative against us or whatever. I'm perfectly okay with 91 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:48.839 being called ant I'm also okay with being called anti choice if the choice entails 92 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:54.879 killing another person. Right. I'm anti slavery. I'm anti choice as it 93 00:06:54.959 --> 00:07:00.800 pertains to slavery. Right. I'm anti sex trafficking, I'm anti illegal drug 94 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.279 use. Right, I'm anti a lot of stuff and I'm okay with that. 95 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:06.720 We often say we want to be known for what we're for rather than 96 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:10.319 what we're against, and I get that. That's cool. I like to 97 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:13.519 be known what I'm for, but also I want to be known for what 98 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:17.000 I'm against. I'm against child pornography right, I'm against perversion. I'm against 99 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.120 those things and I'm cool with that. They want to say this is kind 100 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:23.240 of like this is a jab at us, but I don't I don't care 101 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.720 what they say. Yep, Yep, and so so we don't believe in 102 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:30.720 the right to sexual and reproductive health services. Do you think that's an accurate 103 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:34.480 statement? I mean, I mean in a sense, if you want to 104 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:41.519 call abortion sexual and reproductive health services, I'm against that. But of course 105 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:46.600 we know that abortion is not reproductive health. It's the very opposite. It's 106 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:53.040 it's it's counteracts reproduction right. And of course, this idea of sexual health 107 00:07:53.079 --> 00:08:00.199 services and education. Am I against the entity that makes money off of Um, 108 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:05.600 false information about sex and sexual activities that there they propagate in the school 109 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.519 systems, ultimately to get people to come to their centers and get birth control 110 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.000 and abortions from them. Yes, I'm against them educating anyone for anything, 111 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:20.199 the entity that makes literally billions of dollars off of abortions and and the the 112 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.160 pseudo healthcare stuff. Yeah, I'm against their education, but I'm not against 113 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:31.199 true education, true education about sex, about the consequences of sex outside of 114 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:35.919 marriage, right for that stuff. Yeah, yeah, okay. So, 115 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.559 uh so now you have it there. It's not reproductive health, Um, 116 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:46.840 and we we are against their definition of of reproductive health if it means killing 117 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:48.480 the baby. Yes, we, we agree with them. We are. 118 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:52.360 We are against that. Um, okay. So so they said then in 119 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.960 the article that there are no strangers to protesters. And listen, this is 120 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:03.120 a great line. They have plans in place to keep you safe and comfortable 121 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:09.840 both inside and outside of the building. So the safety of planned parenthood is 122 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.840 is being touted. So who is it not safe for? First of all, 123 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.320 let's just you know. It's not safe for the unborn. Babies are 124 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:22.200 safe for the unborn. Inside that building is not a safe place for the 125 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.200 unborn. But even the woman that, the week I wrote this article, 126 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.159 we saw, to the day I wrote this article, we saw two women 127 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:35.000 that had to be basically carried out of the abortion center, one that literally 128 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.519 fainted. She got to her car and fainted, passed out and they had 129 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.519 to carry her back in. And I mean I shouldn't laugh, I'm not 130 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:48.679 laughing at that. It's it's that ability of them calling this that they have 131 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:54.120 plans to keep the women safe. Yeah, and also that they mentioned here 132 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:58.799 they have security guards and or escorts on hand who are trained to protect you. 133 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:03.639 If you I've ever seen in the any of the activities of these quote 134 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.759 escorts, especially the ones here in Charlotte, but I've seen it across the 135 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:13.200 nation, of these quote again, air quote escorts, that they're protecting anyone. 136 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.480 I mean they're banging drums, cow bells, they're saying lewd things, 137 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:24.639 perverse things. Those people are not out there to protect the patients. They're 138 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:26.559 out there to stroke thrown egos. They're out there to cover up a lot, 139 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:31.639 a lot of times their own sin right. They're they're numbing their own 140 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.840 conscience to what they did in their past. Many of these people are post 141 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:39.200 aborted themselves. And listen, these people, these escorts, for the most 142 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:43.320 part, are not out there for the men and the women that they supposedly 143 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:46.679 serve. They're out there for themselves and for plant parentshood. To pretend that 144 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:52.399 these people are helpful is an absurdity. Yeah, trained, trained to do 145 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.519 what? Most of them are high school or Young, the young college kids 146 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:01.440 on summer break that think this is fun to see and they spend a lot 147 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.559 of time on Tiktok at that while they're standing there. It's it's it's absurd. 148 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:11.840 So the latrobe escorts out here do some training periodically. On Saturdays I'll 149 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.240 have a group of people out there and I always like to go up to 150 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:16.360 the group. They'll have them like in a circle and it is, like 151 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.399 you said, it's just a bunch of college students that are feeling you know, 152 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:22.879 they feel like their social justice waders right, whatever, and I just 153 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:26.519 got them to the group and said, whatever she's telling you, I'll save 154 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:30.279 you a lot of trouble. Just act like a jerk to us and your 155 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.360 train just just act like you've always wanted to act against the people that you 156 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.799 disagree with and you're good to go, fully trained. And then you know, 157 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.840 sadly, that is pretty accurate. Okay, let's move on to the 158 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.600 next one. Then it says here are five things to help you deal with 159 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:50.120 protests, protesters. So they're giving five pointers. Okay, so first of 160 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:56.559 all, know that the protesters are single minded and want to take away your 161 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.000 freedom. Yeah, yeah, so what we're out there doing? Yeah, 162 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.960 I mean I actually am single minded in the sense I'm okay with being single 163 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:07.840 minded. But who? What are we single minded about? Well, I 164 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:11.799 mean, first and foremost, I'm single minded about the fact that there's a 165 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:15.279 God that we're all accountable to. Right, we'll all stand before him and 166 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.440 give an account. So I'm single minded on that. Um. As far 167 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.840 as the idea, I mean the notion is that we're single minded, we're 168 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:24.799 just about the baby, that old kind of pro abortion mantra, that we 169 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:30.159 don't care, we're pro birth or whatever. This is absurd, like anything 170 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:35.600 else done. It's an absurd lie. We know that that's not true. 171 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.200 We're not just single minded as it pertains to the baby. We want what's 172 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:43.679 best for the mother and for the baby, and we know that what's best 173 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.879 for that mother is not that she kill her child. And as far as 174 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:52.320 taking away their freedom, I mean, do I want people to Um? 175 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:58.639 Don't want the freedom to kill other people taken away from certain individuals? Yes, 176 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:03.120 I do. Like you can turn this around a hundred, fifty years 177 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.879 ago. You know, these these UH anti slavery abolitionists, they want to 178 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:11.240 take away your freedom, and that's the same language that they use. They 179 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.399 want to take hey, you people in the south, you plantation owners, 180 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:18.320 you need people to work your fields. And these abolitionists, these people that 181 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.240 want to do away with slavery, they want to take away your freedom, 182 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.600 right, your freedom do to do what, to own other people as property. 183 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:28.440 Yeah, and that's I want to take that freedom away. They don't 184 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:33.159 end the phrase take away the freedom. Well, what freedom? Your freedom 185 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.320 to kill your own child. And yes, we agree with that. Statements 186 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:41.120 we do want to take and that's that's where the similarities are. When we 187 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.480 people poop poo the idea of pro abortion, people do poo poopoo the idea 188 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:50.320 of US equating slavery and abortion. Why do we do that? Is Because, 189 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.679 essentially, the premises the same. There are certain human beings that we 190 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.120 have the right to treat like property. You know what, what with your 191 00:13:56.120 --> 00:14:00.200 property? What can you do? Well, you can sell it, you 192 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:01.519 can keep it, you can throw it away, you can do what you 193 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:07.360 want. It's your property right. That's what happened with American slavery. There 194 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.879 were your property. You can do whatever you want to with them, right. 195 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:13.320 No one can take that freedom away from you. In the same way 196 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:18.000 an unborn child with for that mother, it's her property, according to these 197 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.720 people, and she can do what she wants to. She has the freedom 198 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.200 to do what she wants to. We as a society have to stand for 199 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.639 human life as having an intrinsic value that you just can't buy and sell or 200 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:35.399 throw away human life. It has to be protected and valued. By the 201 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.720 way, they call this killing of an unborn child. They call it healthcare, 202 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.320 and I just think it's always wise to h to be sure to point 203 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:45.639 out healthcare is designed to save lives, not to murder them. Right. 204 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.960 So healthcare is just not a true statement. This is not this is not 205 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.360 healthcare. Okay. Then they go on to say don't engage. That's their 206 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:58.799 their number two tip for for the for the women coming. They say that 207 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:03.840 some of these people on the sidewalk might call themselves sidewalk counselors and they might 208 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.919 try to be nice, but they are giving false information. Some might be 209 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:16.440 aggressive. They give inaccurate depictions of abortion and their goal is to shame or 210 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:22.200 intimidate you, and sometimes we pretend to be the real clinic escorts. Yeah, 211 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:26.480 yeah, I mean whatever. I can't speak to what other people are 212 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:30.639 doing around the nation. Are they're aggressive people, people that are more aggressive 213 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:35.399 than what we would train folks to. Be sure that other people to use 214 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.399 bullhorns and signs and flyers featuring inaccurate depictions of abortion? I mean possibly, 215 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:45.960 but I've always I've put this off on our pro aborts. Here are people 216 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.440 who stand for abortion. You call it that, Um, and because they 217 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.200 said we give out inaccurate information as far as our brochures, so I've given 218 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:58.159 it to several of them. Police Circle in this brochure. Any of the 219 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.559 information that's in an act, that's in act curate, and then show me 220 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:04.879 what what is corresponding information that is accurate. And I've never had one take 221 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.960 me up on that. They've always just said things like you say abortion, 222 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:14.000 Um calls his breast cancer and there's kind of these these other things. It 223 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:15.679 really has nothing to do. Like our brochure doesn't even talk about that, 224 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:19.200 although in my opinion it could, but it does not. Right. Yeah, 225 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.679 we could certainly get into that and I would certainly be more than willing 226 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.679 to have a conversation, but they throw out these other things that are just 227 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.799 like. I mean, all they are is just rabbit trails on the facts. 228 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.399 I've given you a brochure. I've said take a pen to it and 229 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:37.440 show me what's inaccurate and I will change because I want to be accurate. 230 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:41.559 Right, we have a vested interest and being accurate, accurate, you can't 231 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:45.039 get away with giving false information anymore. Yeah, people can look at right 232 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.960 up. That's what I'll often say. Just look up any one of these 233 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.039 facts, and I have had some come back to me and say, Oh 234 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:56.039 my bad, you're right, brain waves are detectable at six weeks because they 235 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:00.200 couldn't believe it. The thing is, they don't believe it. They been 236 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.599 told lies by the people that surround them and they just accept as true what 237 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:08.000 they have never researched for themselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely so. 238 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:14.200 Um, we would never want to give out inaccurate informational purpose, but 239 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:18.359 if we're giving out inaccurate information, then please, plan parenthood. Tell me 240 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:22.319 what that information that we're giving out that's inaccurate is and we'll change it. 241 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:27.160 Yeah, yeah, and I would also like to point out that there are 242 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:33.480 people that are lying out there. They're usually the people who are supporting abortion. 243 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:37.559 One of the things I hear all the time from them as the mother's 244 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:42.400 approach in their cars or whatever. Don't talk to them. They have a 245 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:45.559 deadly disease. First of all, we're we're filled with contagion. They tell 246 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:51.279 them that. Then they tell them everything we say is a lie, that 247 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:55.279 we don't have a real nurse. We have a mobile ultrasound unit at at 248 00:17:55.279 --> 00:18:00.599 our facility here with sent out by help monroal pregnancy center. They say that's 249 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:04.039 not a real medical clinic, we don't have a real nurse, we have 250 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:08.359 a fake nurse. So anyway. So they are lying. They are telling 251 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:15.480 lies about us and, Um, and we definitely need to to counteract that 252 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.960 and and and talk about who the real liar is. I mean, think 253 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:25.559 about it. Who is making money off of the situation? Exactly, not 254 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:27.599 us. We're not asking these women, and I actually will say that. 255 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:32.519 I'll say, listen, who stands to gain? I'm not asking you for 256 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:36.680 anything, I'm offering things to you for free. Is Plant Parent whood doing 257 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:41.559 that? Because we know this is a point really to help these women, 258 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.759 to see, we know that there's a price tag associated with everything plant parent 259 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.680 who does right, even the pregnancy tests and all the other things that they 260 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:53.680 do, there's some price tag that's associated with that. So who has a 261 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:59.319 vested interest in and getting you to go with them? More so than anyone 262 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:04.400 else, it's playing parenthood. They're making billions of dollars. We lose resources. 263 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:08.960 Gladly, we lose resources as women, you know, as we help 264 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:14.440 women, we are happy to help them and to use our resources to help 265 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:18.400 them, and that's the opposite of one and Plant parenthood is profiting off of 266 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:23.319 the death of baby. So the next one that they warn the people coming 267 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:33.359 to Plant parenthood know their tactics and beware tactics, because sometimes we try to 268 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:37.960 persuade them to visit their van. Our vans are mobile clinics, in again 269 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:44.319 in quotation marks, because mobile clinics, they think are fake Um and they 270 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:49.640 they'll claim to offer free ultrasounds, pregnancy, pregnancy tests and counseling. But 271 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:56.079 this article by Plant Parenthood says it's a roost. They are deliberately trying to 272 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:03.200 trick us into listening to disinformation and often religious propaganda, and that we don't 273 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:07.400 provide the full range of medical care, unlike plan parenthood. Okay, but 274 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:15.359 I mean parenthood. It is. It's so ludicrous. They they for example, 275 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:19.039 they do not provide mamograms. My my reading was not a single one 276 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:23.440 provides a single mammogram. Um, they do. They do, do manual 277 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:30.240 breast exams, but not a mammogram. They don't. They are mostly abortion, 278 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:37.720 birth control and now helping people to transition into another gender correct Um. 279 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:42.359 So anyway. Uh. So, while it is true we hate abortion, 280 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:47.519 we do not trick women, and I think we have to keep saying we 281 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.319 do not. I one of the first things I say. My name is 282 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:53.799 Vicky. I'm with Love Life, a ministry that is here to Um, 283 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.400 provide hope and help so that you don't need to feel that abortion is your 284 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:03.640 only choice. There's nothing fraudulent. There's no attempt to trick them into thinking 285 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.119 I am part of them. That's the last thing I would want to be 286 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:10.319 is a part of them. So Um, yeah, I mean we're we're 287 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:15.839 on a regular basis in every conversation, trying to contrast us with the abortion 288 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.480 center, not trying to pretend to be the abortion clinic. For sure. 289 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:26.799 Now are there organizations that do that stuff could be. Are there pregnancy centers 290 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.119 that pretend to be abortion centers and things like that? There certainly are, 291 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.480 Um, and I'm not going to get into the morality of that. But 292 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:36.680 that's not what we do and that's not, I don't know, any sidewall 293 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:41.200 counselor that pretends to be a part of Plant parenthood or or whatever they're trying 294 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:48.519 to uh say that we're um pretending to be. But this idea that they 295 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.119 don't offer the full range of stuff. I'm just gonna tell you, like 296 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:57.440 the pregnancy centers that I know, that I'm associated with offer far more stuff 297 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:03.559 than Plant parenthood does, affirming as opposed to life destroying. So it's different 298 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:08.519 stuff that is offered. But and if it's not offered through the pregnancy resource 299 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:14.759 center itself, they have a huge network of resources, as does our ministry, 300 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:19.359 so that that everything, every area that woman needs addressed is going to 301 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:22.640 be addressed. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think about help pregnancy center, 302 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:27.920 who's our partner here in Charlotte, amazing pregnancy center that has a prenatal 303 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:33.519 clinic connected to their pregnancy center that sees the women for free through all non 304 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:38.240 months of pregnancy like that's amazing and there are plenty of other places that do 305 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:41.359 that across the nation. Right and I don't want to ignore what they say 306 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.880 about that. We're going to force them into religion. I will tell you 307 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:52.279 right up front that would be blasphemous for us to force someone to claim Jesus 308 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:57.480 as Lord in order for them to receive services from us. We don't do 309 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:03.279 that. We are against any kind of forcing in any kind of spiritual decision. 310 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.599 But we are very upfront. The reason we do what we do is 311 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:11.440 because we love the Lord and and I am not ashamed of that at all. 312 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:17.440 It is what motivates not only us but many charitable organizations, because they 313 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:22.000 love the Lord. Okay, so the next one they say block them out. 314 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.599 They are. They are telling these parents as they drive in, block 315 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:29.599 those protesters out, and I love how they tell them to do it. 316 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:34.720 Summon your inner rock star and where sunglasses and a jacket or sweatshirt with the 317 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:40.200 hood pulled up to help avoid eye contact. And then they give several suggestions 318 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:45.240 about other ways that they can manage to Um, to be someone that Inter 319 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.880 rock star and avoid Um hearing what we have to say. So it's interesting 320 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:55.799 that the pro so called pro choice group, is giving some very significant instructions 321 00:23:55.839 --> 00:24:00.759 in how to limit the choice for life that they will not hear. The 322 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:06.160 first stuff is so invalid. If the information that we have is such misinformation, 323 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.119 why in the world would you want to shield people from it? You 324 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:15.200 could just reaffirm the fact that you're right and we're wrong by how ridiculous our 325 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:21.559 information yeah, and to that point, last week, maybe it was this 326 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:23.759 week, I kind of lose track of my days. A woman chose life 327 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:30.720 and the people who support abortion told her don't listen to them. They lie 328 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:36.480 and she and they said just pull in to the abortion center and the woman 329 00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:41.359 told them to leave her alone that and she was still actually considering the abortion. 330 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.400 But when I asked her why she did that, she said because I 331 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.759 really hated the way they talked about you and to me and to you. 332 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:55.680 So I thought that was great that they could see the difference this woman who 333 00:24:55.759 --> 00:25:00.160 was still actually abortion minded, but but saw that difference, that who the 334 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:06.160 people that she really needed to block out was that sometimes you wonder, I 335 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:11.000 wonder, don't these people have self awareness? Do you know what I'm saying? 336 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:14.839 Like that's a that's a that's a grave issue, I think in our 337 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:18.240 modern society is that people don't have self awareness. It's it's kind of like 338 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.839 it is the funny analogy, but you ever watch like American idol or? 339 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:27.279 Yeah, ever, you ever been like in the first stages of it where 340 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:32.519 people are auditioning and he can't seeing it all. They think that they can 341 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:34.960 sing, they have had good friends, they have some good friends and they 342 00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:38.759 don't really have self awareness. And so you wonder, Like Plan Parenthood, 343 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.720 these escorts, the way they come across. They're trying to legitimize, at 344 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:47.799 least that's what they say. They're trying to legitimize abortion as healthcare and the 345 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.400 abortion center as legitimate health care facility, and yet they're, you know, 346 00:25:52.680 --> 00:26:00.359 claiming cow bells or you know us. Yeah, it's like it's Surd Um. 347 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.839 Is it effective? Sometimes it's effective and getting people not to engage with 348 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:08.960 us, but it makes I'll tell you this, it's in the long run, 349 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:12.240 gonna come back and bite them for sure, and it has. Those 350 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:18.519 places like latrobe here and you know, Plant parenthood here, are marked in 351 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:23.640 these communities, these close knit communities like minority neighborhoods and minority communities. These 352 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:30.440 places are marked in those communities as as circuses as the houses. It is, 353 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.279 it is and I think the women aren't stopping, sometimes not because Plant 354 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:40.119 parenthood has warned them as much as they're terrified this circus going on. So 355 00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:45.559 the next point that they've given that article get help from clinic escorts. I 356 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.200 if I were pulling in that place, they are the last people. Let's 357 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:55.200 go to the circus and let's get help from the clowns man. So they're 358 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.720 not going to help you. And and it says that they may use umbrellas 359 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:04.599 or are other things to shield you and to play music to help drown out 360 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:10.240 protesters voices. So they don't say what some of those other things are. 361 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.759 But many times in the past it has been pornography, blessed it over, 362 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:23.160 played over their vehicles, dancing in very suggestive ways, um using, like 363 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:27.519 you said, all kinds of crazy instruments. And so what they are shielding 364 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:33.200 the women from that that word shields you. What they are shielding the women 365 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:41.160 from Um is the legitimate choices of the of life, the truth of fetal 366 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.400 development, the truth of the effects of abortion, uh, the truth of 367 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:51.599 what God says about abortion and so many women who choose life. Tell me, 368 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.240 I heard what you all were saying and I knew it was right. 369 00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.839 So we need to trust that. We need no matter how much shielding is 370 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:07.400 going on, from protecting these women from truth. We do have the truth. 371 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.359 Unfortunately, I think they know it. Yeah, yeah, they do 372 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.079 know, at least some of them do, and it's intimidating to them and 373 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:19.519 they have to come up with Um, so called counter tactics to counteract what 374 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.880 we're doing. Um, what you guys are doing on the sidewalk is important. 375 00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:29.160 God's using it, the enemy sees it, and so, Um, 376 00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.240 when I say the enemy, I mean the devil, but the devil works 377 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.440 through people often times, and so those who are being used by the enemy 378 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.599 are seeing that what you guys are doing is effective, and so they're writing 379 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:45.079 articles and trying to counteract as much as they can. But we know their 380 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:49.279 articles, their umbrellas, their pool horns or whatever they try to use are 381 00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:55.519 not a match for the God that made the heavens and the earth. God. 382 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.319 Yes, don't forget the Bible says if God is full for us, 383 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.880 who can be against us? And if you've stepped your feet out on those 384 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.000 sidewalks and you've decided in faith you're gonna speak for those that can't speak for 385 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.519 themselves and you're gonna work on behalf of the unborn and you're gonna obey God 386 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.160 in this area of ministry. God is on your side. Doesn't matter what 387 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:19.880 planned parenthood or any other organization says, no matter what the pro abortion people 388 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:26.359 or the people that stand for abortion, however Vicky words it is Um doesn't 389 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.759 matter what they say or what they do, God is working on your behalf 390 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.000 and he's working through you on behalf of those unborn children, and so just 391 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.319 be faith in what he's called you to. Be encouraged and uh, we 392 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.279 hope that you guys were blessed by this episode. As I said at the 393 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:45.240 beginning, I will give you our email addresses if you have suggestions for other 394 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.480 episodes, anyways that we can encourage you. We'd love to encourage you guys. 395 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.039 You can reach out to me, Daniel at Love Life Dot Org. 396 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:52.839 You reach her, Vicky, with a why at Love Life Dot Org. 397 00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.480 We'd love to hear from you. We'd love if you guys would leave us 398 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.920 a review, however you listen to this podcast. But until next time, 399 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:07.519 God bless God, bless you all. Give me our lift for love. 400 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:21.359 Give me our live for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. 401 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:30.920 Nothing's too precious. Since I met you, M