What Planned Parenthood Says About US

0:00 They say that some of these people on the sidewalk might call themselves sidewalk counselors and they might try to be nice, but they are giving false information, some might be aggressive, they give inaccurate depictions of abortion and their goal is to shame or intimidate you. And sometimes we pretend to be the real clinic escort. I Am Yours, I'm yours, I'm yours, and me, Lord, I'm yours, I'm yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you in pro life ministry, and always with a focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned.

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2:14 What planned parenthood is telling clients about us as sidewalk counselors, and I do want to remind all of our listeners what we often say that when we're on the sidewalk. We try to keep to the three main talking points. What God says about the baby, resources and humanity of the baby, and that is true and that is where the bulk of our discussion with the Women Um at the abortion center should center, on those three main areas. However, they are being told lies by planned parenthood about us. They're being told many things about us. This article was I found it. It is an official document put up by planned parenthood and Um and it is called five ways to help you deal with and tie abortion protesters. I read the whole article and I think it is important sometimes for us as sidewalk counselors to counter some of these main points, because the women are being told these things about us and it really can prevent them from wanting to approach us. So I think we need to expose the darkness, expose the lives. We are called Biblically to do that. I wouldn't spend my whole time on the sidewalk doing this, but I think if, if the spirit moves you, there are times when when exposing the lives are about what they're saying and it's kind of a natural thing anyway. If someone says, well, they told me not to talk to you because of this. It's very natural for us to say, well, they're actually lying to you because they know that we have information that

3:45 would dissuade you from having an abortion. Yeah, Um, so, yeah, there's nothing wrong with engaging along these lines. You just don't want your whole conversation to center around us against them sort of stuff. I also want to mention too, that for a lot of people, planned parenthood is some oonymous with abortion clinic. Right a plant parenthood, um is abortion clinic, and we think of there's even when people talk about Latrobe, they talk about going out to Plant parenthood. This latrobe abortion center is not a plant parenthood and, as a matter of fact, some people don't know this. I've mentioned this in other episodes. In California because that's where a lot of my focus is. Actually, the F P, a organization family planning associates, does more abortions in California Than Plant parenthood does. Um. So I'm saying that because this is what Plant parenthood says, but this is what commonly every abortion center, Plant parenthood is. It's the giant, it's the Goliath and it really sets the tone for all the other abortion centers like they're. They're the leader in the abortion industry movement, right. And so whether you're at a plant parenthood or whether you're at an F P A, whether you add a privately owned abortion center or whatever, these are common ways that they view us and common things that they say to their clients that are coming in.

5:00 We knew that from conversations we've had. We've had with women and also conversations we had with abortion workers. They quit. Here's the here's the things that they tell us to tell the clients so they don't stop and talk with you guys. Right, right. So it's it's quite long the article because what I did when I when I wrote at the article talking about this article, is I would actually cut and paste portions of the actual article by planned parenthood and then I put right below each segment our response. So we're kind of going to have fun with this. So so the Um well, the first thing, and I'm not going to read the whole thing, I'm going to pick some highlights from the first paragraph, is that the women are going to face vocal protesters who don't believe in your right to sexual and reproductive health services and education and they shouldn't be allowed to keep you from the health care you need and deserve. So then we will. We can respond in many ways to this. First of all, we're not protesters, right. We are not protesters. Right. We're not out here to protest and, you know, to pick it or whatever. Not that that's wrong. You guys.

6:08 If you've watched our trainings, you know that we talk about the contrast between what we're doing and protesting. What we're doing is not protesting. We're out there proclaiming the truth, throughout there, offering help and hope. We're reaching out too. I mean, if we're protesting, then so was planned parenthood right there protesting. I mean in their very article here they're protesting, Um, the anti choice protesters, and counter protesting us just with this article, supposedly. Um. I will say this, though, anti abortion, that that's seen as like a pejorative against us or whatever. I'm perfectly okay with being called ant I'm also okay with being called anti choice if the choice entails killing another person. Right. I'm anti slavery. I'm anti choice as it pertains to slavery. Right. I'm anti sex trafficking, I'm anti illegal drug use. Right, I'm anti a lot of stuff and I'm okay with that.

7:03 We often say we want to be known for what we're for rather than what we're against, and I get that. That's cool. I like to be known what I'm for, but also I want to be known for what I'm against. I'm against child pornography right, I'm against perversion. I'm against those things and I'm cool with that. They want to say this is kind of like this is a jab at us, but I don't I don't care what they say. Yep, Yep, and so so we don't believe in the right to sexual and reproductive health services. Do you think that's an accurate statement? I mean, I mean in a sense, if you want to call abortion sexual and reproductive health services, I'm against that. But of course we know that abortion is not reproductive health. It's the very opposite. It's it's it's counteracts reproduction right. And of course, this idea of sexual health services and education. Am I against the entity that makes money off of Um, false information about sex and sexual activities that there they propagate in the school systems, ultimately to get people to come to their centers and get birth control and abortions from them. Yes, I'm against them educating anyone for anything, the entity that makes literally billions of dollars off of abortions and and the the pseudo healthcare stuff. Yeah, I'm against their education, but I'm not against true education, true education about sex, about the consequences of sex outside of marriage, right for that stuff. Yeah, yeah, okay. So,

8:35 uh so now you have it there. It's not reproductive health, Um, and we we are against their definition of of reproductive health if it means killing the baby. Yes, we, we agree with them. We are. We are against that. Um, okay. So so they said then in the article that there are no strangers to protesters. And listen, this is a great line. They have plans in place to keep you safe and comfortable both inside and outside of the building. So the safety of planned parenthood is is being touted. So who is it not safe for? First of all, let's just you know. It's not safe for the unborn. Babies are safe for the unborn. Inside that building is not a safe place for the unborn. But even the woman that, the week I wrote this article, we saw, to the day I wrote this article, we saw two women that had to be basically carried out of the abortion center, one that literally fainted. She got to her car and fainted, passed out and they had to carry her back in. And I mean I shouldn't laugh, I'm not laughing at that. It's it's that ability of them calling this that they have plans to keep the women safe. Yeah, and also that they mentioned here they have security guards and or escorts on hand who are trained to protect you.

9:58 If you I've ever seen in the any of the activities of these quote escorts, especially the ones here in Charlotte, but I've seen it across the nation, of these quote again, air quote escorts, that they're protecting anyone. I mean they're banging drums, cow bells, they're saying lewd things, perverse things. Those people are not out there to protect the patients. They're out there to stroke thrown egos. They're out there to cover up a lot, a lot of times their own sin right. They're they're numbing their own conscience to what they did in their past. Many of these people are post aborted themselves. And listen, these people, these escorts, for the most part, are not out there for the men and the women that they supposedly serve. They're out there for themselves and for plant parentshood. To pretend that these people are helpful is an absurdity. Yeah, trained, trained to do what? Most of them are high school or Young, the young college kids on summer break that think this is fun to see and they spend a lot of time on Tiktok at that while they're standing there. It's it's it's absurd.

11:05 So the latrobe escorts out here do some training periodically. On Saturdays I'll have a group of people out there and I always like to go up to the group. They'll have them like in a circle and it is, like you said, it's just a bunch of college students that are feeling you know, they feel like their social justice waders right, whatever, and I just got them to the group and said, whatever she's telling you, I'll save you a lot of trouble. Just act like a jerk to us and your train just just act like you've always wanted to act against the people that you disagree with and you're good to go, fully trained. And then you know, sadly, that is pretty accurate. Okay, let's move on to the next one. Then it says here are five things to help you deal with protests, protesters. So they're giving five pointers. Okay, so first of all, know that the protesters are single minded and want to take away your freedom. Yeah, yeah, so what we're out there doing? Yeah, I mean I actually am single minded in the sense I'm okay with being single minded. But who? What are we single minded about? Well, I mean, first and foremost, I'm single minded about the fact that there's a God that we're all accountable to. Right, we'll all stand before him and give an account. So I'm single minded on that. Um. As far as the idea, I mean the notion is that we're single minded, we're just about the baby, that old kind of pro abortion mantra, that we don't care, we're pro birth or whatever. This is absurd, like anything else done. It's an absurd lie. We know that that's not true.

12:35 We're not just single minded as it pertains to the baby. We want what's best for the mother and for the baby, and we know that what's best for that mother is not that she kill her child. And as far as taking away their freedom, I mean, do I want people to Um? Don't want the freedom to kill other people taken away from certain individuals? Yes, I do. Like you can turn this around a hundred, fifty years ago. You know, these these UH anti slavery abolitionists, they want to take away your freedom, and that's the same language that they use. They want to take hey, you people in the south, you plantation owners, you need people to work your fields. And these abolitionists, these people that want to do away with slavery, they want to take away your freedom, right, your freedom do to do what, to own other people as property.

13:26 Yeah, and that's I want to take that freedom away. They don't end the phrase take away the freedom. Well, what freedom? Your freedom to kill your own child. And yes, we agree with that. Statements we do want to take and that's that's where the similarities are. When we people poop poo the idea of pro abortion, people do poo poopoo the idea of US equating slavery and abortion. Why do we do that? Is Because, essentially, the premises the same. There are certain human beings that we have the right to treat like property. You know what, what with your property? What can you do? Well, you can sell it, you can keep it, you can throw it away, you can do what you want. It's your property right. That's what happened with American slavery. There were your property. You can do whatever you want to with them, right.

14:11 No one can take that freedom away from you. In the same way an unborn child with for that mother, it's her property, according to these people, and she can do what she wants to. She has the freedom to do what she wants to. We as a society have to stand for human life as having an intrinsic value that you just can't buy and sell or throw away human life. It has to be protected and valued. By the way, they call this killing of an unborn child. They call it healthcare, and I just think it's always wise to h to be sure to point out healthcare is designed to save lives, not to murder them. Right. So healthcare is just not a true statement. This is not this is not healthcare. Okay. Then they go on to say don't engage. That's their their number two tip for for the for the women coming. They say that some of these people on the sidewalk might call themselves sidewalk counselors and they might try to be nice, but they are giving false information. Some might be aggressive. They give inaccurate depictions of abortion and their goal is to shame or intimidate you, and sometimes we pretend to be the real clinic escorts. Yeah, yeah, I mean whatever. I can't speak to what other people are doing around the nation. Are they're aggressive people, people that are more aggressive than what we would train folks to. Be sure that other people to use bullhorns and signs and flyers featuring inaccurate depictions of abortion? I mean possibly, but I've always I've put this off on our pro aborts. Here are people

15:46 who stand for abortion. You call it that, Um, and because they said we give out inaccurate information as far as our brochures, so I've given it to several of them. Police Circle in this brochure. Any of the information that's in an act, that's in act curate, and then show me what what is corresponding information that is accurate. And I've never had one take me up on that. They've always just said things like you say abortion, Um calls his breast cancer and there's kind of these these other things. It really has nothing to do. Like our brochure doesn't even talk about that, although in my opinion it could, but it does not. Right. Yeah, we could certainly get into that and I would certainly be more than willing to have a conversation, but they throw out these other things that are just like. I mean, all they are is just rabbit trails on the facts.

16:29 I've given you a brochure. I've said take a pen to it and show me what's inaccurate and I will change because I want to be accurate. Right, we have a vested interest and being accurate, accurate, you can't get away with giving false information anymore. Yeah, people can look at right up. That's what I'll often say. Just look up any one of these facts, and I have had some come back to me and say, Oh my bad, you're right, brain waves are detectable at six weeks because they couldn't believe it. The thing is, they don't believe it. They been told lies by the people that surround them and they just accept as true what they have never researched for themselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely so. Um, we would never want to give out inaccurate informational purpose, but if we're giving out inaccurate information, then please, plan parenthood. Tell me what that information that we're giving out that's inaccurate is and we'll change it.

17:22 Yeah, yeah, and I would also like to point out that there are people that are lying out there. They're usually the people who are supporting abortion. One of the things I hear all the time from them as the mother's approach in their cars or whatever. Don't talk to them. They have a deadly disease. First of all, we're we're filled with contagion. They tell them that. Then they tell them everything we say is a lie, that we don't have a real nurse. We have a mobile ultrasound unit at at our facility here with sent out by help monroal pregnancy center. They say that's not a real medical clinic, we don't have a real nurse, we have a fake nurse. So anyway. So they are lying. They are telling lies about us and, Um, and we definitely need to to counteract that and and and talk about who the real liar is. I mean, think about it. Who is making money off of the situation? Exactly, not us. We're not asking these women, and I actually will say that.

18:27 I'll say, listen, who stands to gain? I'm not asking you for anything, I'm offering things to you for free. Is Plant Parent whood doing that? Because we know this is a point really to help these women, to see, we know that there's a price tag associated with everything plant parent who does right, even the pregnancy tests and all the other things that they do, there's some price tag that's associated with that. So who has a vested interest in and getting you to go with them? More so than anyone else, it's playing parenthood. They're making billions of dollars. We lose resources. Gladly, we lose resources as women, you know, as we help women, we are happy to help them and to use our resources to help them, and that's the opposite of one and Plant parenthood is profiting off of the death of baby. So the next one that they warn the people coming to Plant parenthood know their tactics and beware tactics, because sometimes we try to persuade them to visit their van. Our vans are mobile clinics, in again in quotation marks, because mobile clinics, they think are fake Um and they they'll claim to offer free ultrasounds, pregnancy, pregnancy tests and counseling. But this article by Plant Parenthood says it's a roost. They are deliberately trying to trick us into listening to disinformation and often religious propaganda, and that we don't

20:03 provide the full range of medical care, unlike plan parenthood. Okay, but I mean parenthood. It is. It's so ludicrous. They they for example, they do not provide mamograms. My my reading was not a single one provides a single mammogram. Um, they do. They do, do manual breast exams, but not a mammogram. They don't. They are mostly abortion, birth control and now helping people to transition into another gender correct Um. So anyway. Uh. So, while it is true we hate abortion, we do not trick women, and I think we have to keep saying we do not. I one of the first things I say. My name is Vicky. I'm with Love Life, a ministry that is here to Um, provide hope and help so that you don't need to feel that abortion is your only choice. There's nothing fraudulent. There's no attempt to trick them into thinking I am part of them. That's the last thing I would want to be is a part of them. So Um, yeah, I mean we're we're on a regular basis in every conversation, trying to contrast us with the abortion center, not trying to pretend to be the abortion clinic. For sure.

21:19 Now are there organizations that do that stuff could be. Are there pregnancy centers that pretend to be abortion centers and things like that? There certainly are, Um, and I'm not going to get into the morality of that. But that's not what we do and that's not, I don't know, any sidewall counselor that pretends to be a part of Plant parenthood or or whatever they're trying to uh say that we're um pretending to be. But this idea that they don't offer the full range of stuff. I'm just gonna tell you, like the pregnancy centers that I know, that I'm associated with offer far more stuff than Plant parenthood does, affirming as opposed to life destroying. So it's different stuff that is offered. But and if it's not offered through the pregnancy resource center itself, they have a huge network of resources, as does our ministry, so that that everything, every area that woman needs addressed is going to be addressed. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think about help pregnancy center, who's our partner here in Charlotte, amazing pregnancy center that has a prenatal clinic connected to their pregnancy center that sees the women for free through all non months of pregnancy like that's amazing and there are plenty of other places that do that across the nation. Right and I don't want to ignore what they say about that. We're going to force them into religion. I will tell you right up front that would be blasphemous for us to force someone to claim Jesus

22:52 as Lord in order for them to receive services from us. We don't do that. We are against any kind of forcing in any kind of spiritual decision. But we are very upfront. The reason we do what we do is because we love the Lord and and I am not ashamed of that at all. It is what motivates not only us but many charitable organizations, because they love the Lord. Okay, so the next one they say block them out. They are. They are telling these parents as they drive in, block those protesters out, and I love how they tell them to do it. Summon your inner rock star and where sunglasses and a jacket or sweatshirt with the hood pulled up to help avoid eye contact. And then they give several suggestions about other ways that they can manage to Um, to be someone that Inter rock star and avoid Um hearing what we have to say. So it's interesting that the pro so called pro choice group, is giving some very significant instructions in how to limit the choice for life that they will not hear. The first stuff is so invalid. If the information that we have is such misinformation, why in the world would you want to shield people from it? You could just reaffirm the fact that you're right and we're wrong by how ridiculous our information yeah, and to that point, last week, maybe it was this week, I kind of lose track of my days. A woman chose life

24:25 and the people who support abortion told her don't listen to them. They lie and she and they said just pull in to the abortion center and the woman told them to leave her alone that and she was still actually considering the abortion. But when I asked her why she did that, she said because I really hated the way they talked about you and to me and to you. So I thought that was great that they could see the difference this woman who was still actually abortion minded, but but saw that difference, that who the people that she really needed to block out was that sometimes you wonder, I wonder, don't these people have self awareness? Do you know what I'm saying?

25:11 Like that's a that's a that's a grave issue, I think in our modern society is that people don't have self awareness. It's it's kind of like it is the funny analogy, but you ever watch like American idol or? Yeah, ever, you ever been like in the first stages of it where people are auditioning and he can't seeing it all. They think that they can sing, they have had good friends, they have some good friends and they don't really have self awareness. And so you wonder, Like Plan Parenthood, these escorts, the way they come across. They're trying to legitimize, at least that's what they say. They're trying to legitimize abortion as healthcare and the abortion center as legitimate health care facility, and yet they're, you know, claiming cow bells or you know us. Yeah, it's like it's Surd Um.

26:00 Is it effective? Sometimes it's effective and getting people not to engage with us, but it makes I'll tell you this, it's in the long run, gonna come back and bite them for sure, and it has. Those places like latrobe here and you know, Plant parenthood here, are marked in these communities, these close knit communities like minority neighborhoods and minority communities. These places are marked in those communities as as circuses as the houses. It is, it is and I think the women aren't stopping, sometimes not because Plant parenthood has warned them as much as they're terrified this circus going on. So the next point that they've given that article get help from clinic escorts. I if I were pulling in that place, they are the last people. Let's go to the circus and let's get help from the clowns man. So they're not going to help you. And and it says that they may use umbrellas or are other things to shield you and to play music to help drown out protesters voices. So they don't say what some of those other things are.

27:10 But many times in the past it has been pornography, blessed it over, played over their vehicles, dancing in very suggestive ways, um using, like you said, all kinds of crazy instruments. And so what they are shielding the women from that that word shields you. What they are shielding the women from Um is the legitimate choices of the of life, the truth of fetal development, the truth of the effects of abortion, uh, the truth of what God says about abortion and so many women who choose life. Tell me, I heard what you all were saying and I knew it was right.

27:57 So we need to trust that. We need no matter how much shielding is going on, from protecting these women from truth. We do have the truth. Unfortunately, I think they know it. Yeah, yeah, they do know, at least some of them do, and it's intimidating to them and they have to come up with Um, so called counter tactics to counteract what we're doing. Um, what you guys are doing on the sidewalk is important. God's using it, the enemy sees it, and so, Um, when I say the enemy, I mean the devil, but the devil works through people often times, and so those who are being used by the enemy are seeing that what you guys are doing is effective, and so they're writing articles and trying to counteract as much as they can. But we know their articles, their umbrellas, their pool horns or whatever they try to use are not a match for the God that made the heavens and the earth. God.

28:56 Yes, don't forget the Bible says if God is full for us, who can be against us? And if you've stepped your feet out on those sidewalks and you've decided in faith you're gonna speak for those that can't speak for themselves and you're gonna work on behalf of the unborn and you're gonna obey God in this area of ministry. God is on your side. Doesn't matter what planned parenthood or any other organization says, no matter what the pro abortion people or the people that stand for abortion, however Vicky words it is Um doesn't matter what they say or what they do, God is working on your behalf and he's working through you on behalf of those unborn children, and so just be faith in what he's called you to. Be encouraged and uh, we hope that you guys were blessed by this episode. As I said at the beginning, I will give you our email addresses if you have suggestions for other episodes, anyways that we can encourage you. We'd love to encourage you guys.

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