Sept. 15, 2022
What Planned Parenthood Says About US

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The abortion industry is vested in dissuading abortion-minded women from talking with pro-life organizations. In this episode, we share an article written by Planned Parenthood on some of the tactics they use to discourage women from talking to us an...
The abortion industry is vested in dissuading abortion-minded women from talking with pro-life organizations. In this episode, we share an article written by Planned Parenthood on some of the tactics they use to discourage women from talking to us and how to circumvent these tactics.
WEBVTT100:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.639They say that some of these peopleon the sidewalk might call themselves sidewalk counselors200:00:05.000 --> 00:00:09.240and they might try to be nice, but they are giving false information,300:00:09.919 --> 00:00:17.280some might be aggressive, they giveinaccurate depictions of abortion and their goal is400:00:17.359 --> 00:00:22.640to shame or intimidate you. Andsometimes we pretend to be the real clinic500:00:22.839 --> 00:00:29.079escort. I Am Yours, I'myours, I'm yours, and me,600:00:29.359 --> 00:00:35.600Lord, I'm yours, I'm yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center Pro700:00:35.759 --> 00:00:41.079Life Podcast, a podcast designed toequip, encourage and challenge you in pro800:00:41.200 --> 00:00:45.039life ministry, and always with afocus on the Gospel. Stay tuned.900:00:47.039 --> 00:00:59.520I felt your passh touch your heart. Lord, use me. Welcome back1000:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.600to the GAL well centered pro lifepodcast. Appreciate you, guys, joining1100:01:02.679 --> 00:01:06.000us. We're blessed to bring youthese episodes. We hope that these episodes1200:01:06.040 --> 00:01:08.519are blessing to you. I dowant to mention, as I try to1300:01:08.560 --> 00:01:14.280mention, but don't mention in everyepisode, but probably should, our website,1400:01:14.519 --> 00:01:18.879Gospel centered pro life dot Com.That's for this podcast and if you1500:01:18.920 --> 00:01:22.000want to get some of the otherepisodes, maybe you Um, I don't1600:01:22.000 --> 00:01:26.040know how you listen to people listenon Youtube because our stuff is uploaded on1700:01:26.079 --> 00:01:30.920Youtube. People listen on apple podcastsand listen on Google podcasts and all kinds1800:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.319of other stuff, spotify and allof that, but that website is a1900:01:34.359 --> 00:01:38.480central location for all of our episodes. So if you want to search other2000:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.599episodes that we've done, maybe subjectsthat you're interested in, my guess is2100:01:42.640 --> 00:01:47.359we've probably done an episode about whateversubject you're thinking of or we've done an2200:01:47.359 --> 00:01:52.400episode that includes stuff about that particularsubject Um. If not, we always2300:01:52.439 --> 00:01:55.439encourage you guys to reach out andjust give us some suggestions. We just2400:01:55.480 --> 00:02:00.280did a podcast episode from a suggestionfrom a listener about dealing with babies that2500:02:00.359 --> 00:02:05.040have fetal abnormalities and how to answerthose issues and that sort of things that2600:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.560we'd love to hear from you guys. I'll give you guys our email addresses2700:02:07.640 --> 00:02:09.960at the end of this but let'sjump into this episode. What are we2800:02:09.960 --> 00:02:14.039talking about, Vicky? We're talkingabout, it's kind of a fun one.2900:02:14.319 --> 00:02:20.800What planned parenthood is telling clients aboutus as sidewalk counselors, and I3000:02:20.879 --> 00:02:24.680do want to remind all of ourlisteners what we often say that when we're3100:02:24.680 --> 00:02:28.520on the sidewalk. We try tokeep to the three main talking points.3200:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.479What God says about the baby,resources and humanity of the baby, and3300:02:31.639 --> 00:02:37.159that is true and that is wherethe bulk of our discussion with the Women3400:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.800Um at the abortion center should center, on those three main areas. However,3500:02:42.479 --> 00:02:47.000they are being told lies by plannedparenthood about us. They're being told3600:02:47.199 --> 00:02:52.280many things about us. This articlewas I found it. It is an3700:02:52.319 --> 00:02:58.439official document put up by planned parenthoodand Um and it is called five ways3800:02:58.479 --> 00:03:01.719to help you deal with and tieabortion protesters. I read the whole article3900:03:02.560 --> 00:03:07.479and I think it is important sometimesfor us as sidewalk counselors to counter some4000:03:07.599 --> 00:03:13.479of these main points, because thewomen are being told these things about us4100:03:13.800 --> 00:03:17.840and it really can prevent them fromwanting to approach us. So I think4200:03:17.879 --> 00:03:23.120we need to expose the darkness,expose the lives. We are called Biblically4300:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.759to do that. I wouldn't spendmy whole time on the sidewalk doing this,4400:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.280but I think if, if thespirit moves you, there are times4500:03:30.280 --> 00:03:35.680when when exposing the lives are aboutwhat they're saying and it's kind of a4600:03:35.759 --> 00:03:38.479natural thing anyway. If someone says, well, they told me not to4700:03:38.479 --> 00:03:40.840talk to you because of this.It's very natural for us to say,4800:03:40.840 --> 00:03:45.280well, they're actually lying to youbecause they know that we have information that4900:03:45.360 --> 00:03:49.000would dissuade you from having an abortion. Yeah, Um, so, yeah,5000:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.960there's nothing wrong with engaging along theselines. You just don't want your5100:03:51.960 --> 00:03:55.639whole conversation to center around us againstthem sort of stuff. I also want5200:03:55.639 --> 00:03:59.759to mention too, that for alot of people, planned parenthood is some5300:04:00.000 --> 00:04:04.080oonymous with abortion clinic. Right aplant parenthood, um is abortion clinic,5400:04:04.120 --> 00:04:09.280and we think of there's even whenpeople talk about Latrobe, they talk about5500:04:09.280 --> 00:04:12.919going out to Plant parenthood. Thislatrobe abortion center is not a plant parenthood5600:04:13.319 --> 00:04:15.360and, as a matter of fact, some people don't know this. I've5700:04:15.360 --> 00:04:18.560mentioned this in other episodes. InCalifornia because that's where a lot of my5800:04:18.639 --> 00:04:24.639focus is. Actually, the FP, a organization family planning associates,5900:04:25.000 --> 00:04:30.399does more abortions in California Than Plantparenthood does. Um. So I'm saying6000:04:30.439 --> 00:04:34.759that because this is what Plant parenthoodsays, but this is what commonly every6100:04:34.800 --> 00:04:40.399abortion center, Plant parenthood is.It's the giant, it's the Goliath and6200:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.639it really sets the tone for allthe other abortion centers like they're. They're6300:04:44.720 --> 00:04:48.839the leader in the abortion industry movement, right. And so whether you're at6400:04:48.879 --> 00:04:51.560a plant parenthood or whether you're atan F P A, whether you add6500:04:51.560 --> 00:04:57.800a privately owned abortion center or whatever, these are common ways that they view6600:04:57.920 --> 00:05:00.480us and common things that they sayto their clients that are coming in.6700:05:00.680 --> 00:05:05.560We knew that from conversations we've had. We've had with women and also conversations6800:05:05.600 --> 00:05:10.120we had with abortion workers. Theyquit. Here's the here's the things that6900:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.519they tell us to tell the clientsso they don't stop and talk with you7000:05:13.560 --> 00:05:16.639guys. Right, right. Soit's it's quite long the article because what7100:05:16.759 --> 00:05:20.920I did when I when I wroteat the article talking about this article,7200:05:21.000 --> 00:05:27.720is I would actually cut and pasteportions of the actual article by planned parenthood7300:05:27.920 --> 00:05:31.759and then I put right below eachsegment our response. So we're kind of7400:05:31.759 --> 00:05:35.319going to have fun with this.So so the Um well, the first7500:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.319thing, and I'm not going toread the whole thing, I'm going to7600:05:38.439 --> 00:05:42.680pick some highlights from the first paragraph, is that the women are going to7700:05:42.759 --> 00:05:49.040face vocal protesters who don't believe inyour right to sexual and reproductive health services7800:05:49.040 --> 00:05:53.959and education and they shouldn't be allowedto keep you from the health care you7900:05:54.000 --> 00:05:58.920need and deserve. So then wewill. We can respond in many ways8000:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.120to this. First of all,we're not protesters, right. We are8100:06:01.160 --> 00:06:05.000not protesters. Right. We're notout here to protest and, you know,8200:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.920to pick it or whatever. Notthat that's wrong. You guys.8300:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.560If you've watched our trainings, youknow that we talk about the contrast between8400:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.399what we're doing and protesting. Whatwe're doing is not protesting. We're out8500:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.639there proclaiming the truth, throughout there, offering help and hope. We're reaching8600:06:18.639 --> 00:06:23.879out too. I mean, ifwe're protesting, then so was planned parenthood8700:06:24.000 --> 00:06:29.079right there protesting. I mean intheir very article here they're protesting, Um,8800:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.319the anti choice protesters, and counterprotesting us just with this article,8900:06:32.439 --> 00:06:39.079supposedly. Um. I will saythis, though, anti abortion, that9000:06:39.079 --> 00:06:43.639that's seen as like a pejorative againstus or whatever. I'm perfectly okay with9100:06:43.680 --> 00:06:48.839being called ant I'm also okay withbeing called anti choice if the choice entails9200:06:48.959 --> 00:06:54.879killing another person. Right. I'manti slavery. I'm anti choice as it9300:06:54.959 --> 00:07:00.800pertains to slavery. Right. I'manti sex trafficking, I'm anti illegal drug9400:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.279use. Right, I'm anti alot of stuff and I'm okay with that.9500:07:03.800 --> 00:07:06.720We often say we want to beknown for what we're for rather than9600:07:06.720 --> 00:07:10.319what we're against, and I getthat. That's cool. I like to9700:07:10.360 --> 00:07:13.519be known what I'm for, butalso I want to be known for what9800:07:13.600 --> 00:07:17.000I'm against. I'm against child pornographyright, I'm against perversion. I'm against9900:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.120those things and I'm cool with that. They want to say this is kind10000:07:20.120 --> 00:07:23.240of like this is a jab atus, but I don't I don't care10100:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.720what they say. Yep, Yep, and so so we don't believe in10200:07:26.759 --> 00:07:30.720the right to sexual and reproductive healthservices. Do you think that's an accurate10300:07:30.759 --> 00:07:34.480statement? I mean, I meanin a sense, if you want to10400:07:34.519 --> 00:07:41.519call abortion sexual and reproductive health services, I'm against that. But of course10500:07:41.560 --> 00:07:46.600we know that abortion is not reproductivehealth. It's the very opposite. It's10600:07:46.639 --> 00:07:53.040it's it's counteracts reproduction right. Andof course, this idea of sexual health10700:07:53.079 --> 00:08:00.199services and education. Am I againstthe entity that makes money off of Um,10800:08:00.439 --> 00:08:05.600false information about sex and sexual activitiesthat there they propagate in the school10900:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.519systems, ultimately to get people tocome to their centers and get birth control11000:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.000and abortions from them. Yes,I'm against them educating anyone for anything,11100:08:13.439 --> 00:08:20.199the entity that makes literally billions ofdollars off of abortions and and the the11200:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.160pseudo healthcare stuff. Yeah, I'magainst their education, but I'm not against11300:08:24.279 --> 00:08:31.199true education, true education about sex, about the consequences of sex outside of11400:08:31.319 --> 00:08:35.919marriage, right for that stuff.Yeah, yeah, okay. So,11500:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.559uh so now you have it there. It's not reproductive health, Um,11600:08:39.639 --> 00:08:46.840and we we are against their definitionof of reproductive health if it means killing11700:08:46.879 --> 00:08:48.480the baby. Yes, we,we agree with them. We are.11800:08:48.559 --> 00:08:52.360We are against that. Um,okay. So so they said then in11900:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.960the article that there are no strangersto protesters. And listen, this is12000:08:56.960 --> 00:09:03.120a great line. They have plansin place to keep you safe and comfortable12100:09:03.399 --> 00:09:09.840both inside and outside of the building. So the safety of planned parenthood is12200:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.840is being touted. So who isit not safe for? First of all,12300:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.320let's just you know. It's notsafe for the unborn. Babies are12400:09:18.039 --> 00:09:22.200safe for the unborn. Inside thatbuilding is not a safe place for the12500:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.200unborn. But even the woman that, the week I wrote this article,12600:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.159we saw, to the day Iwrote this article, we saw two women12700:09:30.480 --> 00:09:35.000that had to be basically carried outof the abortion center, one that literally12800:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.519fainted. She got to her carand fainted, passed out and they had12900:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.519to carry her back in. AndI mean I shouldn't laugh, I'm not13000:09:41.600 --> 00:09:48.679laughing at that. It's it's thatability of them calling this that they have13100:09:48.759 --> 00:09:54.120plans to keep the women safe.Yeah, and also that they mentioned here13200:09:54.320 --> 00:09:58.799they have security guards and or escortson hand who are trained to protect you.13300:09:58.639 --> 00:10:03.639If you I've ever seen in theany of the activities of these quote13400:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.759escorts, especially the ones here inCharlotte, but I've seen it across the13500:10:07.879 --> 00:10:13.200nation, of these quote again,air quote escorts, that they're protecting anyone.13600:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.480I mean they're banging drums, cowbells, they're saying lewd things,13700:10:18.639 --> 00:10:24.639perverse things. Those people are notout there to protect the patients. They're13800:10:24.679 --> 00:10:26.559out there to stroke thrown egos.They're out there to cover up a lot,13900:10:26.600 --> 00:10:31.639a lot of times their own sinright. They're they're numbing their own14000:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.840conscience to what they did in theirpast. Many of these people are post14100:10:33.840 --> 00:10:39.200aborted themselves. And listen, thesepeople, these escorts, for the most14200:10:39.240 --> 00:10:43.320part, are not out there forthe men and the women that they supposedly14300:10:43.360 --> 00:10:46.679serve. They're out there for themselvesand for plant parentshood. To pretend that14400:10:46.720 --> 00:10:52.399these people are helpful is an absurdity. Yeah, trained, trained to do14500:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.519what? Most of them are highschool or Young, the young college kids14600:10:56.559 --> 00:11:01.440on summer break that think this isfun to see and they spend a lot14700:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.559of time on Tiktok at that whilethey're standing there. It's it's it's absurd.14800:11:05.720 --> 00:11:11.840So the latrobe escorts out here dosome training periodically. On Saturdays I'll14900:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.240have a group of people out thereand I always like to go up to15000:11:15.279 --> 00:11:16.360the group. They'll have them likein a circle and it is, like15100:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.399you said, it's just a bunchof college students that are feeling you know,15200:11:20.440 --> 00:11:22.879they feel like their social justice wadersright, whatever, and I just15300:11:22.879 --> 00:11:26.519got them to the group and said, whatever she's telling you, I'll save15400:11:26.559 --> 00:11:30.279you a lot of trouble. Justact like a jerk to us and your15500:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.360train just just act like you've alwayswanted to act against the people that you15600:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.799disagree with and you're good to go, fully trained. And then you know,15700:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.840sadly, that is pretty accurate.Okay, let's move on to the15800:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.600next one. Then it says hereare five things to help you deal with15900:11:43.639 --> 00:11:50.120protests, protesters. So they're givingfive pointers. Okay, so first of16000:11:50.120 --> 00:11:56.559all, know that the protesters aresingle minded and want to take away your16100:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.000freedom. Yeah, yeah, sowhat we're out there doing? Yeah,16200:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.960I mean I actually am single mindedin the sense I'm okay with being single16300:12:05.960 --> 00:12:07.840minded. But who? What arewe single minded about? Well, I16400:12:07.840 --> 00:12:11.799mean, first and foremost, I'msingle minded about the fact that there's a16500:12:11.840 --> 00:12:15.279God that we're all accountable to.Right, we'll all stand before him and16600:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.440give an account. So I'm singleminded on that. Um. As far16700:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.840as the idea, I mean thenotion is that we're single minded, we're16800:12:20.879 --> 00:12:24.799just about the baby, that oldkind of pro abortion mantra, that we16900:12:24.879 --> 00:12:30.159don't care, we're pro birth orwhatever. This is absurd, like anything17000:12:30.200 --> 00:12:35.600else done. It's an absurd lie. We know that that's not true.17100:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.200We're not just single minded as itpertains to the baby. We want what's17200:12:39.240 --> 00:12:43.679best for the mother and for thebaby, and we know that what's best17300:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.879for that mother is not that shekill her child. And as far as17400:12:46.919 --> 00:12:52.320taking away their freedom, I mean, do I want people to Um?17500:12:52.600 --> 00:12:58.639Don't want the freedom to kill otherpeople taken away from certain individuals? Yes,17600:12:58.720 --> 00:13:03.120I do. Like you can turnthis around a hundred, fifty years17700:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.879ago. You know, these theseUH anti slavery abolitionists, they want to17800:13:07.879 --> 00:13:11.240take away your freedom, and that'sthe same language that they use. They17900:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.399want to take hey, you peoplein the south, you plantation owners,18000:13:13.799 --> 00:13:18.320you need people to work your fields. And these abolitionists, these people that18100:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.240want to do away with slavery,they want to take away your freedom,18200:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.600right, your freedom do to dowhat, to own other people as property.18300:13:26.840 --> 00:13:28.440Yeah, and that's I want totake that freedom away. They don't18400:13:28.679 --> 00:13:33.159end the phrase take away the freedom. Well, what freedom? Your freedom18500:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.320to kill your own child. Andyes, we agree with that. Statements18600:13:37.399 --> 00:13:41.120we do want to take and that'sthat's where the similarities are. When we18700:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.480people poop poo the idea of proabortion, people do poo poopoo the idea18800:13:46.519 --> 00:13:50.320of US equating slavery and abortion.Why do we do that? Is Because,18900:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.679essentially, the premises the same.There are certain human beings that we19000:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.120have the right to treat like property. You know what, what with your19100:13:56.120 --> 00:14:00.200property? What can you do?Well, you can sell it, you19200:14:00.240 --> 00:14:01.519can keep it, you can throwit away, you can do what you19300:14:01.519 --> 00:14:07.360want. It's your property right.That's what happened with American slavery. There19400:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.879were your property. You can dowhatever you want to with them, right.19500:14:11.320 --> 00:14:13.320No one can take that freedom awayfrom you. In the same way19600:14:13.320 --> 00:14:18.000an unborn child with for that mother, it's her property, according to these19700:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.720people, and she can do whatshe wants to. She has the freedom19800:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.200to do what she wants to.We as a society have to stand for19900:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.639human life as having an intrinsic valuethat you just can't buy and sell or20000:14:28.679 --> 00:14:35.399throw away human life. It hasto be protected and valued. By the20100:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.720way, they call this killing ofan unborn child. They call it healthcare,20200:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.320and I just think it's always wiseto h to be sure to point20300:14:41.320 --> 00:14:45.639out healthcare is designed to save lives, not to murder them. Right.20400:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.960So healthcare is just not a truestatement. This is not this is not20500:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.360healthcare. Okay. Then they goon to say don't engage. That's their20600:14:52.440 --> 00:14:58.799their number two tip for for thefor the women coming. They say that20700:14:58.919 --> 00:15:03.840some of these people on the sidewalkmight call themselves sidewalk counselors and they might20800:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.919try to be nice, but theyare giving false information. Some might be20900:15:09.039 --> 00:15:16.440aggressive. They give inaccurate depictions ofabortion and their goal is to shame or21000:15:16.480 --> 00:15:22.200intimidate you, and sometimes we pretendto be the real clinic escorts. Yeah,21100:15:22.039 --> 00:15:26.480yeah, I mean whatever. Ican't speak to what other people are21200:15:26.519 --> 00:15:30.639doing around the nation. Are they'reaggressive people, people that are more aggressive21300:15:30.720 --> 00:15:35.399than what we would train folks to. Be sure that other people to use21400:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.399bullhorns and signs and flyers featuring inaccuratedepictions of abortion? I mean possibly,21500:15:39.960 --> 00:15:45.960but I've always I've put this offon our pro aborts. Here are people21600:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.440who stand for abortion. You callit that, Um, and because they21700:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.200said we give out inaccurate information asfar as our brochures, so I've given21800:15:54.200 --> 00:15:58.159it to several of them. PoliceCircle in this brochure. Any of the21900:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.559information that's in an act, that'sin act curate, and then show me22000:16:00.639 --> 00:16:04.879what what is corresponding information that isaccurate. And I've never had one take22100:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.960me up on that. They've alwaysjust said things like you say abortion,22200:16:10.399 --> 00:16:14.000Um calls his breast cancer and there'skind of these these other things. It22300:16:14.039 --> 00:16:15.679really has nothing to do. Likeour brochure doesn't even talk about that,22400:16:17.080 --> 00:16:19.200although in my opinion it could,but it does not. Right. Yeah,22500:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.679we could certainly get into that andI would certainly be more than willing22600:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.679to have a conversation, but theythrow out these other things that are just22700:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.799like. I mean, all theyare is just rabbit trails on the facts.22800:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.399I've given you a brochure. I'vesaid take a pen to it and22900:16:33.399 --> 00:16:37.440show me what's inaccurate and I willchange because I want to be accurate.23000:16:37.559 --> 00:16:41.559Right, we have a vested interestand being accurate, accurate, you can't23100:16:41.559 --> 00:16:45.039get away with giving false information anymore. Yeah, people can look at right23200:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.960up. That's what I'll often say. Just look up any one of these23300:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.039facts, and I have had somecome back to me and say, Oh23400:16:52.120 --> 00:16:56.039my bad, you're right, brainwaves are detectable at six weeks because they23500:16:56.080 --> 00:17:00.200couldn't believe it. The thing is, they don't believe it. They been23600:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.599told lies by the people that surroundthem and they just accept as true what23700:17:03.799 --> 00:17:08.000they have never researched for themselves.Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely so.23800:17:08.519 --> 00:17:14.200Um, we would never want togive out inaccurate informational purpose, but23900:17:14.279 --> 00:17:18.359if we're giving out inaccurate information,then please, plan parenthood. Tell me24000:17:18.440 --> 00:17:22.319what that information that we're giving outthat's inaccurate is and we'll change it.24100:17:22.640 --> 00:17:27.160Yeah, yeah, and I wouldalso like to point out that there are24200:17:27.240 --> 00:17:33.480people that are lying out there.They're usually the people who are supporting abortion.24300:17:33.599 --> 00:17:37.559One of the things I hear allthe time from them as the mother's24400:17:37.559 --> 00:17:42.400approach in their cars or whatever.Don't talk to them. They have a24500:17:42.440 --> 00:17:45.559deadly disease. First of all,we're we're filled with contagion. They tell24600:17:45.599 --> 00:17:51.279them that. Then they tell themeverything we say is a lie, that24700:17:51.359 --> 00:17:55.279we don't have a real nurse.We have a mobile ultrasound unit at at24800:17:55.279 --> 00:18:00.599our facility here with sent out byhelp monroal pregnancy center. They say that's24900:18:00.680 --> 00:18:04.039not a real medical clinic, wedon't have a real nurse, we have25000:18:04.079 --> 00:18:08.359a fake nurse. So anyway.So they are lying. They are telling25100:18:08.400 --> 00:18:15.480lies about us and, Um,and we definitely need to to counteract that25200:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.960and and and talk about who thereal liar is. I mean, think25300:18:19.960 --> 00:18:25.559about it. Who is making moneyoff of the situation? Exactly, not25400:18:25.720 --> 00:18:27.599us. We're not asking these women, and I actually will say that.25500:18:27.839 --> 00:18:32.519I'll say, listen, who standsto gain? I'm not asking you for25600:18:32.559 --> 00:18:36.680anything, I'm offering things to youfor free. Is Plant Parent whood doing25700:18:36.720 --> 00:18:41.559that? Because we know this isa point really to help these women,25800:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.759to see, we know that there'sa price tag associated with everything plant parent25900:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.680who does right, even the pregnancytests and all the other things that they26000:18:48.720 --> 00:18:53.680do, there's some price tag that'sassociated with that. So who has a26100:18:53.759 --> 00:18:59.319vested interest in and getting you togo with them? More so than anyone26200:18:59.359 --> 00:19:04.400else, it's playing parenthood. They'remaking billions of dollars. We lose resources.26300:19:04.400 --> 00:19:08.960Gladly, we lose resources as women, you know, as we help26400:19:10.000 --> 00:19:14.440women, we are happy to helpthem and to use our resources to help26500:19:14.559 --> 00:19:18.400them, and that's the opposite ofone and Plant parenthood is profiting off of26600:19:18.480 --> 00:19:23.319the death of baby. So thenext one that they warn the people coming26700:19:23.359 --> 00:19:33.359to Plant parenthood know their tactics andbeware tactics, because sometimes we try to26800:19:33.400 --> 00:19:37.960persuade them to visit their van.Our vans are mobile clinics, in again26900:19:37.039 --> 00:19:44.319in quotation marks, because mobile clinics, they think are fake Um and they27000:19:44.759 --> 00:19:49.640they'll claim to offer free ultrasounds,pregnancy, pregnancy tests and counseling. But27100:19:49.759 --> 00:19:56.079this article by Plant Parenthood says it'sa roost. They are deliberately trying to27200:19:56.079 --> 00:20:03.200trick us into listening to disinformation andoften religious propaganda, and that we don't27300:20:03.240 --> 00:20:07.400provide the full range of medical care, unlike plan parenthood. Okay, but27400:20:07.920 --> 00:20:15.359I mean parenthood. It is.It's so ludicrous. They they for example,27500:20:15.400 --> 00:20:19.039they do not provide mamograms. Mymy reading was not a single one27600:20:19.119 --> 00:20:23.440provides a single mammogram. Um,they do. They do, do manual27700:20:23.559 --> 00:20:30.240breast exams, but not a mammogram. They don't. They are mostly abortion,27800:20:30.839 --> 00:20:37.720birth control and now helping people totransition into another gender correct Um.27900:20:37.759 --> 00:20:42.359So anyway. Uh. So,while it is true we hate abortion,28000:20:42.839 --> 00:20:47.519we do not trick women, andI think we have to keep saying we28100:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.319do not. I one of thefirst things I say. My name is28200:20:49.400 --> 00:20:53.799Vicky. I'm with Love Life,a ministry that is here to Um,28300:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.400provide hope and help so that youdon't need to feel that abortion is your28400:20:57.400 --> 00:21:03.640only choice. There's nothing fraudulent.There's no attempt to trick them into thinking28500:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.119I am part of them. That'sthe last thing I would want to be28600:21:06.920 --> 00:21:10.319is a part of them. SoUm, yeah, I mean we're we're28700:21:11.400 --> 00:21:15.839on a regular basis in every conversation, trying to contrast us with the abortion28800:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.480center, not trying to pretend tobe the abortion clinic. For sure.28900:21:19.880 --> 00:21:26.799Now are there organizations that do thatstuff could be. Are there pregnancy centers29000:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.119that pretend to be abortion centers andthings like that? There certainly are,29100:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.480Um, and I'm not going toget into the morality of that. But29200:21:33.559 --> 00:21:36.680that's not what we do and that'snot, I don't know, any sidewall29300:21:36.720 --> 00:21:41.200counselor that pretends to be a partof Plant parenthood or or whatever they're trying29400:21:41.200 --> 00:21:48.519to uh say that we're um pretendingto be. But this idea that they29500:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.119don't offer the full range of stuff. I'm just gonna tell you, like29600:21:52.359 --> 00:21:57.440the pregnancy centers that I know,that I'm associated with offer far more stuff29700:21:57.720 --> 00:22:03.559than Plant parenthood does, affirming asopposed to life destroying. So it's different29800:22:03.640 --> 00:22:08.519stuff that is offered. But andif it's not offered through the pregnancy resource29900:22:08.519 --> 00:22:14.759center itself, they have a hugenetwork of resources, as does our ministry,30000:22:15.000 --> 00:22:19.359so that that everything, every areathat woman needs addressed is going to30100:22:19.400 --> 00:22:22.640be addressed. Yeah, yeah,I mean I think about help pregnancy center,30200:22:22.640 --> 00:22:27.920who's our partner here in Charlotte,amazing pregnancy center that has a prenatal30300:22:29.000 --> 00:22:33.519clinic connected to their pregnancy center thatsees the women for free through all non30400:22:33.599 --> 00:22:38.240months of pregnancy like that's amazing andthere are plenty of other places that do30500:22:38.279 --> 00:22:41.359that across the nation. Right andI don't want to ignore what they say30600:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.880about that. We're going to forcethem into religion. I will tell you30700:22:45.079 --> 00:22:52.279right up front that would be blasphemousfor us to force someone to claim Jesus30800:22:52.319 --> 00:22:57.480as Lord in order for them toreceive services from us. We don't do30900:22:57.559 --> 00:23:03.279that. We are against any kindof forcing in any kind of spiritual decision.31000:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.599But we are very upfront. Thereason we do what we do is31100:23:07.640 --> 00:23:11.440because we love the Lord and andI am not ashamed of that at all.31200:23:11.680 --> 00:23:17.440It is what motivates not only usbut many charitable organizations, because they31300:23:17.480 --> 00:23:22.000love the Lord. Okay, sothe next one they say block them out.31400:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.599They are. They are telling theseparents as they drive in, block31500:23:25.759 --> 00:23:29.599those protesters out, and I lovehow they tell them to do it.31600:23:30.200 --> 00:23:34.720Summon your inner rock star and wheresunglasses and a jacket or sweatshirt with the31700:23:34.759 --> 00:23:40.200hood pulled up to help avoid eyecontact. And then they give several suggestions31800:23:40.240 --> 00:23:45.240about other ways that they can manageto Um, to be someone that Inter31900:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.880rock star and avoid Um hearing whatwe have to say. So it's interesting32000:23:48.920 --> 00:23:55.799that the pro so called pro choicegroup, is giving some very significant instructions32100:23:55.839 --> 00:24:00.759in how to limit the choice forlife that they will not hear. The32200:24:00.759 --> 00:24:06.160first stuff is so invalid. Ifthe information that we have is such misinformation,32300:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.119why in the world would you wantto shield people from it? You32400:24:11.160 --> 00:24:15.200could just reaffirm the fact that you'reright and we're wrong by how ridiculous our32500:24:15.240 --> 00:24:21.559information yeah, and to that point, last week, maybe it was this32600:24:21.599 --> 00:24:23.759week, I kind of lose trackof my days. A woman chose life32700:24:25.359 --> 00:24:30.720and the people who support abortion toldher don't listen to them. They lie32800:24:30.519 --> 00:24:36.480and she and they said just pullin to the abortion center and the woman32900:24:36.519 --> 00:24:41.359told them to leave her alone thatand she was still actually considering the abortion.33000:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.400But when I asked her why shedid that, she said because I33100:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.759really hated the way they talked aboutyou and to me and to you.33200:24:51.680 --> 00:24:55.680So I thought that was great thatthey could see the difference this woman who33300:24:55.759 --> 00:25:00.160was still actually abortion minded, butbut saw that difference, that who the33400:25:00.319 --> 00:25:06.160people that she really needed to blockout was that sometimes you wonder, I33500:25:06.240 --> 00:25:11.000wonder, don't these people have selfawareness? Do you know what I'm saying?33600:25:11.039 --> 00:25:14.839Like that's a that's a that's agrave issue, I think in our33700:25:14.880 --> 00:25:18.240modern society is that people don't haveself awareness. It's it's kind of like33800:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.839it is the funny analogy, butyou ever watch like American idol or?33900:25:25.000 --> 00:25:27.279Yeah, ever, you ever beenlike in the first stages of it where34000:25:27.279 --> 00:25:32.519people are auditioning and he can't seeingit all. They think that they can34100:25:32.559 --> 00:25:34.960sing, they have had good friends, they have some good friends and they34200:25:34.960 --> 00:25:38.759don't really have self awareness. Andso you wonder, Like Plan Parenthood,34300:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.720these escorts, the way they comeacross. They're trying to legitimize, at34400:25:42.759 --> 00:25:47.799least that's what they say. They'retrying to legitimize abortion as healthcare and the34500:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.400abortion center as legitimate health care facility, and yet they're, you know,34600:25:52.680 --> 00:26:00.359claiming cow bells or you know us. Yeah, it's like it's Surd Um.34700:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.839Is it effective? Sometimes it's effectiveand getting people not to engage with34800:26:04.920 --> 00:26:08.960us, but it makes I'll tellyou this, it's in the long run,34900:26:10.240 --> 00:26:12.240gonna come back and bite them forsure, and it has. Those35000:26:12.240 --> 00:26:18.519places like latrobe here and you know, Plant parenthood here, are marked in35100:26:18.640 --> 00:26:23.640these communities, these close knit communitieslike minority neighborhoods and minority communities. These35200:26:23.640 --> 00:26:30.440places are marked in those communities asas circuses as the houses. It is,35300:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.279it is and I think the womenaren't stopping, sometimes not because Plant35400:26:33.279 --> 00:26:40.119parenthood has warned them as much asthey're terrified this circus going on. So35500:26:40.200 --> 00:26:45.559the next point that they've given thatarticle get help from clinic escorts. I35600:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.200if I were pulling in that place, they are the last people. Let's35700:26:48.240 --> 00:26:55.200go to the circus and let's gethelp from the clowns man. So they're35800:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.720not going to help you. Andand it says that they may use umbrellas35900:26:59.839 --> 00:27:04.599or are other things to shield youand to play music to help drown out36000:27:04.920 --> 00:27:10.240protesters voices. So they don't saywhat some of those other things are.36100:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.759But many times in the past ithas been pornography, blessed it over,36200:27:15.039 --> 00:27:23.160played over their vehicles, dancing invery suggestive ways, um using, like36300:27:23.240 --> 00:27:27.519you said, all kinds of crazyinstruments. And so what they are shielding36400:27:27.599 --> 00:27:33.200the women from that that word shieldsyou. What they are shielding the women36500:27:33.680 --> 00:27:41.160from Um is the legitimate choices ofthe of life, the truth of fetal36600:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.400development, the truth of the effectsof abortion, uh, the truth of36700:27:45.480 --> 00:27:51.599what God says about abortion and somany women who choose life. Tell me,36800:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.240I heard what you all were sayingand I knew it was right.36900:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.839So we need to trust that.We need no matter how much shielding is37000:28:00.960 --> 00:28:07.400going on, from protecting these womenfrom truth. We do have the truth.37100:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.359Unfortunately, I think they know it. Yeah, yeah, they do37200:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.079know, at least some of themdo, and it's intimidating to them and37300:28:14.160 --> 00:28:19.519they have to come up with Um, so called counter tactics to counteract what37400:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.880we're doing. Um, what youguys are doing on the sidewalk is important.37500:28:25.079 --> 00:28:29.160God's using it, the enemy seesit, and so, Um,37600:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.240when I say the enemy, Imean the devil, but the devil works37700:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.440through people often times, and sothose who are being used by the enemy37800:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.599are seeing that what you guys aredoing is effective, and so they're writing37900:28:40.759 --> 00:28:45.079articles and trying to counteract as muchas they can. But we know their38000:28:45.200 --> 00:28:49.279articles, their umbrellas, their poolhorns or whatever they try to use are38100:28:49.440 --> 00:28:55.519not a match for the God thatmade the heavens and the earth. God.38200:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.319Yes, don't forget the Bible saysif God is full for us,38300:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.880who can be against us? Andif you've stepped your feet out on those38400:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.000sidewalks and you've decided in faith you'regonna speak for those that can't speak for38500:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.519themselves and you're gonna work on behalfof the unborn and you're gonna obey God38600:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.160in this area of ministry. Godis on your side. Doesn't matter what38700:29:15.440 --> 00:29:19.880planned parenthood or any other organization says, no matter what the pro abortion people38800:29:21.599 --> 00:29:26.359or the people that stand for abortion, however Vicky words it is Um doesn't38900:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.759matter what they say or what theydo, God is working on your behalf39000:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.000and he's working through you on behalfof those unborn children, and so just39100:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.319be faith in what he's called youto. Be encouraged and uh, we39200:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.279hope that you guys were blessed bythis episode. As I said at the39300:29:41.319 --> 00:29:45.240beginning, I will give you ouremail addresses if you have suggestions for other39400:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.480episodes, anyways that we can encourageyou. We'd love to encourage you guys.39500:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.039You can reach out to me,Daniel at Love Life Dot Org.39600:29:51.119 --> 00:29:52.839You reach her, Vicky, witha why at Love Life Dot Org.39700:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.480We'd love to hear from you.We'd love if you guys would leave us39800:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.920a review, however you listen tothis podcast. But until next time,39900:30:00.240 --> 00:30:07.519God bless God, bless you all. Give me our lift for love.40000:30:11.200 --> 00:30:21.359Give me our live for gratitude.I know it will cost me my life.40100:30:25.000 --> 00:30:30.920Nothing's too precious. Since I metyou, M













