What Does Coronavirus Have to Do With Abortion?

WEBVTT100:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.799I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me,200:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.630Lord, I am your what inthe world is coronavirus have to do with300:00:10.710 --> 00:00:13.990abortion? Join us in this episodeof Gospel Center Pro Life. Is Me400:00:14.029 --> 00:00:19.429and Vicky talk about coronavirus and abortion, the similarities in the biblical implications.500:00:19.829 --> 00:00:32.060Stay too. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Me.600:00:34.619 --> 00:00:39.009Welcome to the Gospel Center pro lifepodcast. We wanted to have a little700:00:39.049 --> 00:00:46.090bit of a conversation, because everyoneis having a conversation. I'll share the800:00:47.009 --> 00:00:53.920coronavirus, covid nineteen, and sowe wanted to talk about it and we900:00:54.039 --> 00:00:57.640want to talk about it in lightof abortion and in light of the Gospel1000:00:58.439 --> 00:01:02.200and you might be wondering, hopefullyyou are wondering, what in the world1100:01:02.479 --> 00:01:07.269does coronavirus have to do with abortion? Where you wondering that? Whenever I1200:01:07.390 --> 00:01:10.829ask you, Hey, you coverthis topic now? No, I because1300:01:10.829 --> 00:01:14.750I was thinking, okay, prolife, life's in there and coronavirus kills,1400:01:14.870 --> 00:01:18.109so it's antied life. So okay, it's like abortion. Yeah,1500:01:18.620 --> 00:01:23.099it is, but in particular,and we'll touch on a few topics.1600:01:23.739 --> 00:01:26.540What as far as the Christian response, what should our response be to this1700:01:26.620 --> 00:01:32.299thing because, you know, justfull to disclosure, I'm probably all over1800:01:32.379 --> 00:01:34.849the map about this thing. I'mone of those guys is like, you1900:01:34.890 --> 00:01:38.489know, the government's going to tellme I can't go places or I can't2000:01:38.530 --> 00:01:41.450do things. The government ain't tellingme, squat, I'll do it I2100:01:41.609 --> 00:01:45.370want. I'll take that attitude.But also I take the attitude of well,2200:01:45.489 --> 00:01:48.159you know, God has put usunder submission to the government and we're2300:01:48.200 --> 00:01:51.560supposed to do things that, aslong as they're not telling us to disobey2400:01:51.599 --> 00:01:53.879God, we're supposed to obey thegovernment and that sort of thing. So2500:01:55.040 --> 00:01:57.680I'm in this tension of governing andto tell me what to do and,2600:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.790you know, also wisdom. Ineed to use wisdom and you know,2700:02:01.030 --> 00:02:06.549as a prolife person who believes everylife is valuable, there's some implications of2800:02:06.750 --> 00:02:12.189not using wisdom and how my decisionsand my actions can affect other people.2900:02:12.389 --> 00:02:15.229Yeah, and that ties directly intoabortion, which is, you know,3000:02:15.349 --> 00:02:16.740one of the points that we're goingto touch on. US We're talking through3100:02:17.139 --> 00:02:20.780but what I wanted to do,as I don't want, I wanted to3200:02:21.740 --> 00:02:24.740not really. I guess maybe we'llcome to some conclusions here, but just3300:02:24.900 --> 00:02:30.169have a conversation and just talk thisthrough. Maybe you guys who are listening,3400:02:30.250 --> 00:02:32.169you can help me. Maybe there'ssome points as we're going through this3500:02:32.490 --> 00:02:36.770that we didn't mention, that wedidn't think through, that we didn't talk3600:02:36.810 --> 00:02:39.289about that we needed to, andyou can help me, help me be3700:02:39.530 --> 00:02:44.319more clear on where I should standon this. Again, I don't really3800:02:44.439 --> 00:02:46.479care. I do care in thesense that, you know, the government3900:02:46.599 --> 00:02:50.199says things and we're supposed to bein submission to the government, CDC,4000:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.479all of that, but more thananything, I care about what the Bible4100:02:53.560 --> 00:02:57.520says. What does the Scripture say? So if you're gonna argue with me4200:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.509about what my attitude should be towardthe coronavirus, you're going to have to4300:03:00.590 --> 00:03:04.710use scripture. For me, andsome other stuff too, scripture is going4400:03:04.750 --> 00:03:07.389to be the main and that's that'swhat we did in our attempt to,4500:03:07.750 --> 00:03:09.469you know, to work through thisdiscussion that we're about to have. We4600:03:09.629 --> 00:03:13.379looked, we looked at scripture.For me, one of the I think4700:03:13.419 --> 00:03:15.939the biggest tension is who to believe, is it? Yeah, we'll read4800:03:15.939 --> 00:03:20.860run article where it's very terrifying.There was a family in New York at4900:03:20.900 --> 00:03:23.939a family gathering. I think often, okay, and seven, three5000:03:23.979 --> 00:03:28.569of them died and for them arein I see you right now, right5100:03:28.650 --> 00:03:31.129out of seven out of ten.I mean that's pretty terrifying. And then5200:03:31.129 --> 00:03:36.409I read articles that that point,you know, print not all the numbers5300:03:36.490 --> 00:03:40.169of people affected and and really arelatively low death rate, lower than the5400:03:40.250 --> 00:03:46.919flu from what I can see inAmerica right now, and probably the coronavirus5500:03:46.000 --> 00:03:51.479numbers are under reported. There's probablylots of people who've already had it and5600:03:51.599 --> 00:03:53.919recovered or don't even know they haveit because they're such a mild case.5700:03:54.199 --> 00:03:58.110So that's for me. Yeah,who to believe? Who to believe,5800:03:58.270 --> 00:04:00.830and and and I just and acertainly is no help to get on facebook5900:04:00.870 --> 00:04:03.389and see everybody's opinion there, becauseI got, you know, on my6000:04:03.469 --> 00:04:06.789facebook feed and we have a lotof the same folks as friends. I'm6100:04:06.789 --> 00:04:12.259seeing every every end of the spectrumand everything in between. Yeah, stay6200:04:12.340 --> 00:04:15.460out of the general public, nevereven come out of your house. All,6300:04:15.500 --> 00:04:16.860who cares about this virus? Youknow, on the other the other6400:04:16.939 --> 00:04:20.379end of the spectrum, it's justthe government, conspiracy whatever. And you6500:04:20.459 --> 00:04:24.810see so much. You see somuch, also on social media right now,6600:04:24.810 --> 00:04:28.250at least in our groups, whichare, in my case, largely6700:04:28.649 --> 00:04:31.490believers, saying, oh well,perfect love cast out fear. If you6800:04:31.569 --> 00:04:35.930love the Lord, you shall haveno fear. And and basically your you're6900:04:36.649 --> 00:04:43.160faithless if if you're worried at all. Yeah, and and and then you7000:04:43.279 --> 00:04:46.279know the the other side that thatsaying you should be worried. There's a7100:04:46.399 --> 00:04:48.519lot of diy all that to allright, there will it paper. You7200:04:48.639 --> 00:04:51.600can. You should be worried,worried for your family and for your life.7300:04:51.600 --> 00:04:56.910And I suspect, you know,the where we should end up is7400:04:57.029 --> 00:05:00.110maybe somewhere kind of down the middle. But so it seems like it's like7500:05:00.230 --> 00:05:03.310that with a lot of stuff.There's this biblical tension of, you know,7600:05:03.430 --> 00:05:08.300not going in one ditch or theother. And hopefully at the end7700:05:08.300 --> 00:05:12.819of this podcast will have you guys. Maybe we'll help balance you out.7800:05:13.060 --> 00:05:15.300Maybe, who knows, maybe you'llhelp balance us out, as you responded7900:05:15.379 --> 00:05:18.100this podcast and let us know howterrible it was or how great it was.8000:05:18.779 --> 00:05:23.449And and so let's jump into it, though, because we're talking about8100:05:23.490 --> 00:05:28.730a communical pool disease. Yeah,Cole disease, which means it can be8200:05:30.329 --> 00:05:33.769passed along to other people, andso there are some implications here. We're8300:05:33.810 --> 00:05:39.399going to talk about bodily autonomy andhow your decisions affect other people in a8400:05:39.480 --> 00:05:44.800biblical framework for that and a biblicalunderstanding of that. But let's talk about8500:05:45.000 --> 00:05:49.829because it's not like the Bible doesn'tmention communicable diseases. It does mention these8600:05:49.949 --> 00:05:55.430diseases and you know it does.It should help us to see how thorough8700:05:55.550 --> 00:05:59.310God is in his word, andwe talked in the numbers podcast about how8800:05:59.389 --> 00:06:01.189thorough God is and keeping numbers,but how there are is in dealing with8900:06:01.269 --> 00:06:05.740stuff like communicable diseases, in particularwith leprosy and and some folks say,9000:06:05.740 --> 00:06:10.980and I think it's true, ifyou study out leprosy and what's implied here9100:06:11.420 --> 00:06:14.420in the Leviticus passage, what theywere dealing with the New Testament, it9200:06:14.899 --> 00:06:18.250could include a lot more than justwhat we properly know as leprosy. It9300:06:18.290 --> 00:06:23.569could be other skin diseases, otherdiseases that are that affect person in similar9400:06:23.610 --> 00:06:26.449ways. Yeah, but you know, broadly we're talking about leprosy. I9500:06:26.490 --> 00:06:29.889think probably I could be wrong aboutthis. Maybe I need to study it9600:06:29.970 --> 00:06:32.480more before I say this. Probablythe word leprosy is more of a broad9700:06:32.519 --> 00:06:36.240term than just a particular communic coupledisease that we know is leprosy now,9800:06:36.240 --> 00:06:40.800but maybe not. I don't.But does God talk about this disease?9900:06:40.920 --> 00:06:44.959Is God talk about diseases and passingdiseases in the Bible? Yeah, and10000:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.670and of course, you know,leprosy is what came right to my mind10100:06:47.709 --> 00:06:50.269as I was thinking about this.So, and there are a lot of10200:06:50.350 --> 00:06:57.149parallels. Lepers in in that timeperiod were socially isolated. That is how10300:06:57.670 --> 00:07:01.980the spread of leprosy was contained.They were socially isolated and they were self10400:07:02.139 --> 00:07:08.699responsible, but through the rule ofthe government. You know that that they10500:07:08.779 --> 00:07:13.420were too, and God's Word saidthat. Actually it was in God's word.10600:07:13.540 --> 00:07:17.170The command was that they were toalert everyone who came near them that10700:07:17.410 --> 00:07:23.810would be in danger by shouting unclean, unclean. Yeah, Leviticus thirteen,10800:07:24.089 --> 00:07:27.490forty five through forty six. Youright, like you always do. Written10900:07:27.490 --> 00:07:31.160an outline here, an article basically, and the will post this anywhere.11000:07:31.160 --> 00:07:33.920It just helps us as we flowthrough this. Yeah, but at yeah,11100:07:33.920 --> 00:07:38.319leviticas one thousand three hundred and fortyfive through forty six the Lebrous,11200:07:38.399 --> 00:07:42.199person who has the disease shall weartorn clothes and let the hair of his11300:07:42.319 --> 00:07:46.430head hang loose, and he shallcover his upper lip and cry out unclean,11400:07:46.509 --> 00:07:48.910unclean, he shrimming, unclean.As long as he has the disease,11500:07:49.149 --> 00:07:53.310he is unclean. He shall them, he shall live alone, his11600:07:53.389 --> 00:07:57.110dwellings shall be outside of the camp. So this is quarantining. Basically,11700:07:57.269 --> 00:08:03.420he's separated from the general population andthe intention is that he wouldn't share that11800:08:03.579 --> 00:08:07.339disease and spread that disease to therest of Israel. And there was no11900:08:07.500 --> 00:08:11.740cure for for lepre seat. Therewas no vaccine, there was no vaccine,12000:08:11.819 --> 00:08:16.009there was no medicine that they couldtake. They basically would just slowly12100:08:16.050 --> 00:08:20.209lose all of their body part seemsthat sounds like a fun podcast. Yeah,12200:08:20.370 --> 00:08:22.730that would be a middle one.That would be a good one.12300:08:22.889 --> 00:08:26.680About fifty years from yeah, butyou know, whenever I read about the12400:08:26.720 --> 00:08:31.039lepers it makes me so sad.Yeah, I mean they had a miserable12500:08:31.399 --> 00:08:39.879existence, but but God did thatto protect his community. Yeah, to12600:08:39.960 --> 00:08:45.830protect the rest of the community.So now that's kind of in sharp contrast12700:08:46.149 --> 00:08:48.110to what happens in the New Testament. And yes, yes, yeah,12800:08:48.629 --> 00:08:52.509you know I've said before I actuallypreached on this passage that you brought up.12900:08:54.110 --> 00:08:56.500Actually, matthew and mark, aslong as well as Luke, have13000:08:56.659 --> 00:09:03.980this particular story shared where this leprossman comes before Jesus and basically preached about,13100:09:05.899 --> 00:09:09.049you know, how in the NewTestament or in the Old Testament,13200:09:09.210 --> 00:09:15.809the unclean makes the clean unclean.In the New Testament the clean makes the13300:09:15.889 --> 00:09:18.370unclean clean. Oh, that's interestingand it's true. You know, in13400:09:18.370 --> 00:09:20.889the Old Testament if you touch thelepros person, you were unclean. You13500:09:20.970 --> 00:09:24.320are not supposed to touch a listleper person. You were unclean after that13600:09:24.399 --> 00:09:28.200point. But in the New Testament, you know, in this story,13700:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.120this is Luke, Chapter Five,or this man comes, a sleppers man13800:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.200comes before Jesus and the Bible saysin one passage he bowed down, bow13900:09:35.279 --> 00:09:37.360down and worshiped him and said,Lord, if you are willing, you14000:09:37.399 --> 00:09:39.470can make me clean. So heknew that Jesus was able to the question14100:09:39.549 --> 00:09:45.070was he willing? and Jesus stretchesout his hand, touches the man and14200:09:45.509 --> 00:09:48.470says I'm willing be cleansed and hethe leprosy leaves him, he's a good14300:09:48.470 --> 00:09:52.100present himself before the priest and givethe offering that is required for a person14400:09:52.179 --> 00:09:56.340that's been cleansed of leprosy. Andmean of you know the story. But14500:09:56.019 --> 00:10:01.179Jesus makes this unclean man, ratherthan Jesus becoming unclean, which is the14600:10:01.299 --> 00:10:03.539the typical way it would happen inthe Old Testament, under the new covenant,14700:10:03.539 --> 00:10:09.250Jesus makes this unclean man clean,to his cleanliness anyway. That's a14800:10:09.690 --> 00:10:13.129you know that that'll preach and doesn'tnecessarily have to do with this, but14900:10:13.210 --> 00:10:16.330it does have to do with thefact that Jesus was not afraid of the15000:10:16.409 --> 00:10:20.889leprosy. You could say, youknow, he's he's God. Yeah,15100:10:20.889 --> 00:10:24.600of course he is. What theBible does tell tell us that he laid15200:10:24.840 --> 00:10:30.240the that glorious side his divinity,in the sense that you're functioning as God.15300:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.799He laid that aside and took onthe form of a servant. Yeah,15400:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.029became a human being. So hehe certainly stepped out as a human15500:10:39.070 --> 00:10:43.389being in touch this man, yeah, who was lepers as far as not15600:10:43.470 --> 00:10:48.110mine in clinging right and as faras we know, though some things says,15700:10:48.110 --> 00:10:52.379I'm trying to connect that with coronavirus. He didn't tell the rest of15800:10:52.460 --> 00:10:56.379the lepers okay, everybody go,just join the community. Yeah, he15900:10:56.460 --> 00:11:01.940didn't change the social isolation. AndI think it's interesting, though, went16000:11:03.220 --> 00:11:07.250that the lepers says if you arewilling, yeah, and then Jesus says,16100:11:07.289 --> 00:11:16.409I am willing, and that spoketo me about how so many of16200:11:16.570 --> 00:11:20.759the things I'm seen written on socialmedia talk about well, you're safe,16300:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.399you're you're you're a believer and Godwill protect us and and and all of16400:11:26.559 --> 00:11:31.480this will. Yeah, I thinkwe're presuming upon God's willingness or lack of16500:11:31.559 --> 00:11:37.629willingness to heal or to protect.He may or may not, and I16600:11:37.830 --> 00:11:43.629think that there is a call forwisdom. Jesus did not say to those16700:11:43.710 --> 00:11:48.740lepers, since I'm in control,you all go on out and I'll take16800:11:48.779 --> 00:11:52.379care of my people. Yeah.So, yeah, yeah, he certainly16900:11:52.419 --> 00:11:56.259didn't overturn complete that social norm,although touching the lepers man, that was17000:11:56.620 --> 00:12:01.210that was confronting a social norm.Yeah, and some could argue, and17100:12:01.210 --> 00:12:03.929I think a good argument could bemade, that Jesus did that not as17200:12:03.970 --> 00:12:07.769abroad. You know, I willI'm willing to heal every lepers person,17300:12:09.049 --> 00:12:11.809but as a particular sign and atestimony, and certainly was that, and17400:12:13.009 --> 00:12:16.519to the Ministry of Jesus. ButI believe he shows his willingness to step17500:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.120out and to break with social normsto meet this man's need, and he17600:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.039certainly did right. He looked onthis man with compassion. Now does that17700:12:24.279 --> 00:12:28.519mean then, you know, bringingit to today, and as far as17800:12:28.559 --> 00:12:33.070the coronavirus, the coronavirus with Jesusheal someone from the of the coronavirus?17900:12:33.549 --> 00:12:37.389Certainly he would. Certainly he can. He may already have. You know,18000:12:37.549 --> 00:12:41.309somebody maybe had it and has beenhealed from it. God still does18100:12:41.389 --> 00:12:43.340that, I believe, in thisday at age. Does that mean,18200:12:43.419 --> 00:12:46.779though, we need to go outas Christians and start, you know,18300:12:46.860 --> 00:12:52.659laying hands on everybody that has coronavirusand and and, you know, potentially18400:12:52.700 --> 00:12:56.259passing it around everyone? Hey,no, I don't think that it does.18500:12:56.659 --> 00:12:58.769I think that we, as yousaid, we have to use wisdom.18600:13:00.370 --> 00:13:05.450We have certain directives and their peoplesmarter than me, smarter maybe even18700:13:05.529 --> 00:13:11.009than you, no doubt, whohave said they're there are these risks that18800:13:11.090 --> 00:13:13.679are involved in passing this thing around, and so do this and do that.18900:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.840So I think, you know,there has to be that has to19000:13:18.879 --> 00:13:22.879be taken into consideration, not justthis idea that if you have enough faith19100:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.759then God it's not going to makeyou sick. Yeah, and and I19200:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.710think that at that house God's notgoing to let you get sick. That's19300:13:28.750 --> 00:13:31.309right, he I'm sure there's Christiansthat are dying of this too, but19400:13:31.549 --> 00:13:37.590it helps me just to say thisand to think about this, that it's19500:13:37.789 --> 00:13:43.179not a measure of your standing beforeGod or your faith if you're not going19600:13:43.179 --> 00:13:48.620to be shaking all your friend's handsright now. They're saying don't shake hands.19700:13:48.700 --> 00:13:54.659But I do get this sense bysome people in the Christian community that19800:13:54.769 --> 00:14:01.210that shows I'm quivering in fear orthat I'm not as good a Christianist.19900:14:01.330 --> 00:14:05.610Yeah, or maybe even the theidea of having church services. Are Church20000:14:05.850 --> 00:14:09.769is not meeting? Yes, asfar as you know, as a congregation20100:14:09.850 --> 00:14:13.840of the same building, our pastorsare doing online service at you know,20200:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.879last Sunday. It was great.You know, just confess when I first20300:14:16.960 --> 00:14:20.480heard that they were not going tohave services, I'm like what, Canceling20400:14:20.600 --> 00:14:24.549Church Service? Yeah, because ofthis thing. Yeah, and you know,20500:14:24.590 --> 00:14:26.710I took the sort of I don'tknow, I didn't take the you20600:14:26.789 --> 00:14:30.230know, you don't have faith approach, but I was just disappointed. I20700:14:30.350 --> 00:14:31.470was like, man, we gotto press through this. And then I20800:14:31.549 --> 00:14:33.470was like, you know, theLord really spoke to my heart. Hey,20900:14:33.549 --> 00:14:39.460you put yourself under submission to yourpastor and the leadership there and they're21000:14:39.460 --> 00:14:41.139doing the best they can with theinformation they have and they're trying to apply21100:14:41.299 --> 00:14:45.419wisdom and, you know, Ifelt like, okay, you're right,21200:14:45.500 --> 00:14:48.899Lord. I did. And thenwe watch the church service Sunday morning,21300:14:48.139 --> 00:14:52.259right, and it was I wasblessed by it. Yes, it was21400:14:52.379 --> 00:14:54.090good as a family who watch togetherin our live room, and it was21500:14:54.129 --> 00:15:00.169a blessing and I trust that Godis is guiding the leaders of our fellowship21600:15:00.169 --> 00:15:03.409and the other churches around, eventhough I might might not be my perfect21700:15:03.529 --> 00:15:05.730will for that to happen. Yeah, I think that, you know,21800:15:07.049 --> 00:15:09.480God has other people in that positionto make that decision rather than me for21900:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.480a reason. Yeah, I meanthere's been some good things from all of22000:15:13.639 --> 00:15:18.480this social isolation. I've heard somany stories of families that are gathering together22100:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.990and doing simple things that families shouldbe doing. Yeah, together, there22200:15:24.110 --> 00:15:26.669worshiping to go and also I thinkit's helping people just not be gross.22300:15:28.710 --> 00:15:31.870You know, that's like one ofthe one of the benefits. Well,22400:15:31.950 --> 00:15:35.350I wash my hand. I'm nota FREAKO. Wash my hands your everything,22500:15:35.549 --> 00:15:37.500but you know, I wash myhands on a pretty regular basis,22600:15:37.580 --> 00:15:41.620normally because I think it's gross notto write every time I use the bath22700:15:41.700 --> 00:15:46.700it. Listen, if if youneeded the coronavirus in order to start washing22800:15:46.740 --> 00:15:50.370your hands after use the bathroom,you're a gross person. In your part22900:15:50.409 --> 00:15:54.129of the problem. But and andthat brings up a second point that I23000:15:54.250 --> 00:16:02.970was thinking about, is that manytimes these sorts of things, not that23100:16:03.049 --> 00:16:07.279I've ever had a global pandemic before. I never lived through one, which23200:16:07.320 --> 00:16:11.879better during the bubonic plague, andI'm not that was a few hit me23300:16:11.919 --> 00:16:19.549on but I I, I dothink that there is certainly biblical evidence that23400:16:19.710 --> 00:16:32.309God uses terrible things like plagues topunish and alarm and wake up people to23500:16:33.379 --> 00:16:37.179unrighteousness and wickedness. And I asand that's where I think it does relate23600:16:37.179 --> 00:16:45.299very directly to abortion. Is thisplague the result of the worldwide growth in23700:16:45.620 --> 00:16:48.450the acceptance of abortion? I don'tknow. Yeah, but I don't.23800:16:48.570 --> 00:16:52.929I'm not going to be opposed tothinking that that could be the case,23900:16:52.090 --> 00:16:57.570because abortion is wicked. God hatesthe shutting of innocent blood. He hates24000:16:57.970 --> 00:17:07.039people killing babies. Yeah, andand there's been so much effort to encourage24100:17:07.119 --> 00:17:11.680people to recognize that and to solittle avail. Yes, so many people24200:17:11.720 --> 00:17:15.519have hardened their hearts and stiff intheir necks. Yeah, you know,24300:17:15.559 --> 00:17:18.069I'm certainly not going to be theyou know, I Guess Doomsday Prophet that24400:17:18.150 --> 00:17:22.670says, you know, this isabsolutely a judgment from God and and you24500:17:22.789 --> 00:17:26.150know, but I will say Goddoes bring judgment and people need to repent,24600:17:26.549 --> 00:17:29.190whether or not this is a judgmentfrom God or, you know,24700:17:29.269 --> 00:17:33.740it's from the devil, or it'sjust a virus that can come back from24800:17:33.779 --> 00:17:37.900China. Yeah, either way,this is an opportunity, I think,24900:17:38.019 --> 00:17:41.059for people, I know, forpeople, to check themselves. Yeah,25000:17:41.420 --> 00:17:45.769yeah, the Bible says if wejudge ourselves, will not be judged of25100:17:45.849 --> 00:17:49.490God. We need to make anexamination of ourselves. Believers, Christians,25200:17:51.089 --> 00:17:53.250we guys, we have to makean assessment of our behavior. If you're25300:17:53.250 --> 00:17:56.849one of those people, and Iget it, we need to take care25400:17:56.890 --> 00:17:59.960of our families. I have afamily are we have ten in our family.25500:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.200But if you're one of those people, as soon as you heard about25600:18:03.400 --> 00:18:07.319this coronavirus, you went to thestore and you bought eighty seven packs of25700:18:07.519 --> 00:18:12.349toilet paper. I think you probablydid that out of fear and I think25800:18:12.390 --> 00:18:15.509it's probably should be evidence to you, evident to you, that you're a25900:18:15.549 --> 00:18:19.470selfish person, because now I don'thave toilet paper in my house. We26000:18:19.589 --> 00:18:22.789do actually, but you know whatI'm saying. It's like this selfishness that26100:18:22.910 --> 00:18:26.789flows. I'll got to take careof of myself. I've got to take26200:18:26.789 --> 00:18:30.140care of me in my own whenever. Really, as believers, were supposed26300:18:30.180 --> 00:18:33.140to consider those around us. Maybeyou bought eighty seven packs of toilet paper26400:18:33.299 --> 00:18:37.180so you can give your neighbor sometoilet paper and praise God. Hope,26500:18:37.299 --> 00:18:40.140hopefully, you did that. Buteven as a world you know you're we're26600:18:40.180 --> 00:18:42.089talking about judgment. We're talking aboutthe way that God brings judgments and we26700:18:42.289 --> 00:18:47.250do know in the Bible, oldTesiman and New Testament, that God will26800:18:47.329 --> 00:18:51.970bring pestilence. I think this wouldqualify as pestilence. Pestilence is like insects26900:18:52.049 --> 00:18:59.359and some kind of invasion of someforeign or a Dissolu disinvited creature, and27000:18:59.480 --> 00:19:03.680I think a virus would wouldn't qualifyas that. This is pestilence and whether27100:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.279it's again, it's been unleashed bythe Lord as a judgment. Either way,27200:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.950we let's not waste it. Yeah, right, let's let's check ourselves27300:19:11.990 --> 00:19:15.589as believers, as a nation,let's check ourselves. Are we right with27400:19:15.710 --> 00:19:18.190God? And I would say,you know, of course we're not.27500:19:18.349 --> 00:19:19.670As a nation, we need toturn back to the Lord and I've been27600:19:19.869 --> 00:19:22.990man. As a family, we'vebeen praying. God. Use this exactly27700:19:23.029 --> 00:19:26.259because, if nothing else, people, you know, will wash their hands27800:19:26.660 --> 00:19:30.380when they're supposed to not be gross, but people will check their own mortality.27900:19:30.859 --> 00:19:33.339They don't. You listen, you, you're not going to live forever.28000:19:33.460 --> 00:19:37.700You're not going to be on thisearth forever. Whether you coronavirus gets28100:19:37.740 --> 00:19:41.009you. You know, Ray Comfort. We love him. Right. He28200:19:41.089 --> 00:19:44.890says the ultimate statistic ten out often people die. Were all going to28300:19:44.930 --> 00:19:47.970be part of that ultimate statistic.You're going to die. If you don't28400:19:48.009 --> 00:19:52.130die from something, death is goingto get you right, right, and28500:19:52.289 --> 00:19:56.480so you're going to die from something. And we're going to face the Lord.28600:19:56.640 --> 00:19:59.279So as believers, we're going toface God. We're going to have28700:19:59.319 --> 00:20:02.240to give an account for our livesand how we've lived. Yeah, so,28800:20:02.319 --> 00:20:06.680if nothing else, allow this isan opportunity for reflection and be a28900:20:06.759 --> 00:20:08.309witness in a testimony. It probablynot the best thing for you to be29000:20:08.390 --> 00:20:11.910tapping on facebook about how much Godhates America and that's why he's judging.29100:20:11.950 --> 00:20:15.869Probably probably not the best testimony,but but the testimony of worn in people29200:20:17.190 --> 00:20:19.430of whether or not this is ajudgment. There is judgment to come and29300:20:19.829 --> 00:20:23.539inviting people to come to the Lordand to check themselves. Yeah, as29400:20:23.579 --> 00:20:26.900a believer and being a testimony toyour neighbors and helping out and that sort29500:20:26.900 --> 00:20:30.460of thing can be an opportunity toshare the gospel with people. Yeah,29600:20:30.460 --> 00:20:34.700and to be an intercessor in themidst of the plague is very biblical.29700:20:34.769 --> 00:20:38.369Absolutely. So, you know,I'm going to save my voice because I've29800:20:38.369 --> 00:20:44.890got some some rough vocal courts,but if it's not coronavirus now the wagon29900:20:44.930 --> 00:20:48.009around, it's it's and if youhear my voice cracking a promise it's not30000:20:48.130 --> 00:20:52.160corona either. We both there.It's like the pollen. Pollen is thick.30100:20:52.240 --> 00:20:55.000I mean that's like a double whammyform now right, yeah, you30200:20:55.079 --> 00:21:00.359know, but this one is numberssixteen and it's how number sixteen verses forty30300:21:00.440 --> 00:21:03.349four, two, hundred and fiftyand an old testament dealing with the plague30400:21:03.470 --> 00:21:10.950and and really pay attention to prayerand intercession for the people in the midst30500:21:10.990 --> 00:21:12.589of this plague. Okay, soI'll read it here. And the Lord30600:21:12.670 --> 00:21:15.789spoke to Moses, saying get awayfrom the midst of this congregation, that30700:21:15.869 --> 00:21:19.700I may consume them in a moment. And they fell on their faces and30800:21:19.779 --> 00:21:23.019Moses said to Aaron, Take YourCenser and put fire on it, from30900:21:23.059 --> 00:21:26.940from off the altar, and layincense on it and carry it quickly to31000:21:27.059 --> 00:21:30.420the congregation and make a toment forthem, for wrath has gone out from31100:21:30.420 --> 00:21:33.970the Lord. The plague has begun. So Aaron took it, as Moses31200:21:34.009 --> 00:21:37.930had said, and ran into themidst of the assembly and behold, the31300:21:37.009 --> 00:21:41.289plague had already begun among the people. And he put out the incense and31400:21:41.329 --> 00:21:44.329made a Toment for the people andhe stood between the dead and the living31500:21:44.650 --> 00:21:47.880and the plague was stopped. Nowthose who died in the plague. Were31600:21:47.920 --> 00:21:51.720fourteen thousand seven hundred besides of thosewho died in the affair of Cora,31700:21:52.160 --> 00:21:55.680and Aaron returned to Moses at theentrance of the Tene meeting when the plague31800:21:55.759 --> 00:21:59.880was stopped. So here's intercession,here's Aaron intervening, you know, God31900:22:00.400 --> 00:22:06.269speaking to Moses and Moses speaking toAaron and the there's intercession, there's interestanding32000:22:06.309 --> 00:22:10.470between the living and the dead andand putting out in atonement for the people.32100:22:10.630 --> 00:22:14.789And Yeah, and back in thosedays it was Jesus had not yet32200:22:14.950 --> 00:22:19.900come in as and died on thecross, and now the atonement is to32300:22:21.099 --> 00:22:26.740point people to Jesus. Yeah,and to sacrifice on their behalf. So32400:22:26.099 --> 00:22:30.690prayer, intercession, pointing others toGod and Atonement, I think, are32500:22:30.690 --> 00:22:36.809all really important things for us allto be actively doing. Yeah, during32600:22:36.890 --> 00:22:40.849this during this plague. Yeah,yeah, and that that again, you32700:22:40.970 --> 00:22:44.089got to balance that out. It'sit's, you know, probably not the32800:22:44.170 --> 00:22:48.039best testimony to be putting on facebookor whatever, be standing in the grocery32900:22:48.039 --> 00:22:49.720store and yelling at everybody this isa judgment of God. You need to33000:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.759repent right. That never goes well. It typically does not go well,33100:22:55.000 --> 00:22:59.630but taken, I don't say capitalizingon the moment because I don't want to33200:22:59.630 --> 00:23:02.109make light of it, but it'ssort of like that. We're taking this33300:23:02.269 --> 00:23:07.269moment where people are reflecting on theirown mortality. Yeah, and there's fear33400:23:07.029 --> 00:23:11.109and people are under a spirit offear, to bring the truth of the33500:23:11.190 --> 00:23:15.819Gospel and to point them to theone who, the Bible does say perfect33600:23:15.900 --> 00:23:18.859love casts out fear. You don'thave to be under a spirit of fear.33700:23:18.140 --> 00:23:22.140Now, fear and caution are twodifferent things. Being under you know,33800:23:22.259 --> 00:23:26.289just kind of hiding under a rocksomewhere and and not wanting to be33900:23:26.289 --> 00:23:30.690out in public because you're afraid ofthis virus can be one thing. Using34000:23:30.730 --> 00:23:34.089wisdom, little bit of stuff we'vetalked about already is a whole other thing.34100:23:34.250 --> 00:23:37.609But as a believer in Jesus,you have a platform here. You've34200:23:37.609 --> 00:23:41.130got your family and you got yourfriends and you got those around you that34300:23:41.210 --> 00:23:44.440you can share the gospel with.Take that opportunity. Don't waste this.34400:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.680Yeah, well, the Bible saysmake the most of every opportun absolutely,34500:23:47.680 --> 00:23:49.920so we should do that. Now. You know, one of the things34600:23:51.000 --> 00:23:56.630with abortion rights is bodily autonomy.Yeah, that's my my body, my34700:23:56.710 --> 00:24:00.430choice, right. Yeah, butsuddenly that's kind of not what they're saying.34800:24:00.789 --> 00:24:06.390With coronavirus, your body, get, get and into quarantine and don't34900:24:06.390 --> 00:24:10.180let your body come anywhere near mybody. Not your body, your choice,35000:24:10.220 --> 00:24:12.380because it affects me. Ye,which is the opposite message. The35100:24:12.460 --> 00:24:18.700little says, yeah, it is, it is. So you had found35200:24:18.779 --> 00:24:22.660an interesting article, yeah, whichI think you printed that off, and35300:24:22.940 --> 00:24:26.930I think it is an article about. You know, we did a podcast,35400:24:27.769 --> 00:24:32.250think in our first couple of podcastwe told about bodily autonomy. Yeah,35500:24:32.329 --> 00:24:34.849and is this the biblical concept,the idea of bodily autonomy, and35600:24:36.289 --> 00:24:40.319I think we established the bodily autonomyis, I mean in one sense,35700:24:40.359 --> 00:24:42.559yeah, you're responsible for your body, but the decisions that you make with35800:24:42.640 --> 00:24:48.400your body do affect other people.And when your decisions affect other people,35900:24:48.480 --> 00:24:51.440that's when, you know, oneperson said, my bodily autonomy stops at36000:24:51.480 --> 00:24:53.910the end of my fist. Myfist connect with your nose. Have violated36100:24:53.950 --> 00:24:56.190bodily of time. I can't dowhat I want to with my body.36200:24:56.230 --> 00:25:00.910Yeah, and ultimately are our bodiesare not our own. Our bodies belong36300:25:00.950 --> 00:25:03.349to the Lord exactly everything be yes, yeah, and we know everything belongs36400:25:03.390 --> 00:25:06.430to God. The body is forthe Lord and the Lord is for the36500:25:06.470 --> 00:25:10.460body. As believers in particular,our bodies are temple of the Holy Spirit,36600:25:10.500 --> 00:25:11.740timples of the Holy Spirit. Soyou can't do whatever you want to36700:25:11.819 --> 00:25:15.900with your body. Right. Andit's funny, though, as I'm looking36800:25:15.900 --> 00:25:19.859out on facebook, social media,in the media in general, and a36900:25:19.980 --> 00:25:23.690lot of folks who would tell bodilyautonomy as the end all of everything.37000:25:25.289 --> 00:25:26.809You have bodily autonomy, you cando it, you won't. You can't37100:25:26.809 --> 00:25:29.970tell me what to do with mybody, or some of the same folks37200:25:30.410 --> 00:25:33.210that would support the idea of likeforced quarantine. Right, right, so37300:25:33.769 --> 00:25:37.039you can do what you want todo with your own body or you can't.37400:25:37.119 --> 00:25:38.680Which one is it? Yeah,just today I was I was with37500:25:38.960 --> 00:25:44.119I guess I was closer than sixfeet Tokay, at one of the pro37600:25:44.240 --> 00:25:48.079choice people, okay, and hesaid you need to move back. I37700:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.109probably was five feet away from him, and I did. I did.37800:25:52.150 --> 00:25:56.670I got it. But you know, it's funny because he is also there37900:25:56.750 --> 00:26:02.069standing in support of the full bodilyautonomy of any mother who wants to kill38000:26:02.109 --> 00:26:03.619their child. Yeah, absolutely.Yeah, I mean I talked to the38100:26:03.660 --> 00:26:07.539same guy today and he he believesthat children in the womb are alive.38200:26:07.740 --> 00:26:11.980He says he's a Christian. He'snot a Christian. Yeah, says he's38300:26:11.980 --> 00:26:15.220the Christian. He's believes that unbornchildren have value, but their value is38400:26:15.779 --> 00:26:19.569basically the woman's choice. Trump's thevalue of that, that life, which38500:26:19.609 --> 00:26:22.490is like completely upside down with this. But this is an article. This38600:26:22.609 --> 00:26:27.329is a CNN article actually, andthe title is a corona patient refused to38700:26:27.329 --> 00:26:30.569quarantine. Their deputies are surrounding hishouse to force him to. Wow.38800:26:30.690 --> 00:26:33.039And where is this? This isin Kentucky. Okay, so it says38900:26:33.079 --> 00:26:40.039a Kentucky Novel Corona Virus Patient Checkedhimself out of the hospital against medical advice.39000:26:40.519 --> 00:26:42.640So to prevent him from spreading thevirus, officials are surrounding his house39100:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.559to keep him there. So thisis a guy, fifty three year old39200:26:45.599 --> 00:26:49.109man, who has test depositive forthis thing. So he's got it.39300:26:49.190 --> 00:26:53.390Yeah, and he has the potentialof affecting other people. I mean possibly39400:26:53.470 --> 00:26:57.269he could affect thousands of people,just one person. He's yeah, you39500:26:57.349 --> 00:27:00.539look at these graphs and how oneperson can affect a bunch of people.39600:27:00.579 --> 00:27:04.299He can just spreads, spreads andspreads. So this man is being forced39700:27:04.539 --> 00:27:10.099to be quarantine, it says,read known Nelson County, from Nelson County,39800:27:10.539 --> 00:27:17.049which is in Kentucky, officials saidforced isolate or imposed forced isolation on39900:27:17.130 --> 00:27:21.289the man who was confirmed to havethe he was one of the first of40000:27:21.450 --> 00:27:26.250twenty confirmed cases in Kentucky. Andyou know, it just was interesting to40100:27:26.369 --> 00:27:30.480me because I'm thinking, if I'mthis dude, I mean, if I'm40200:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.400this dude and I found that I'vegot this coronavirus, I'm going to self40300:27:33.400 --> 00:27:38.400quarantine myself, sure, but Ialso can identify with him in one sense.40400:27:38.440 --> 00:27:41.480It is like the government's not goingto tell me what to do.40500:27:41.119 --> 00:27:45.509You know, he's probably got thisthing and he's probably not that sick.40600:27:45.549 --> 00:27:48.549If he checked himselt out of thehospital, he's probably not doing so bad40700:27:48.670 --> 00:27:52.190himself. Right, if he's ableto check himself out of the hospital,40800:27:52.670 --> 00:27:56.109he's probably not doing so bad.so He's thinking to McDonald's. He wants40900:27:56.150 --> 00:27:57.619to go to McDonald's, he wantsto hang out with his family, he41000:27:57.819 --> 00:28:02.700wants to whatever, you know,he wants to do. And who gets41100:28:02.740 --> 00:28:06.019to tell him he can't. Yeah, well, apparently these officials can the41200:28:06.099 --> 00:28:10.019so what does this have to dowith bodily autonomy? It has everything to41300:28:10.059 --> 00:28:12.769do with bodily autonomy. Yeah,this virus is in his body, right,41400:28:14.089 --> 00:28:17.769it's something that's inside of his body. Can't he do with his body41500:28:17.849 --> 00:28:21.609what he wants to, even ifit will affect other people? I mean,41600:28:21.650 --> 00:28:25.049that's the pro choice argument. Alot of pro choice people will say,41700:28:25.170 --> 00:28:26.920yes, I agree, the babyis a living thing. I mean,41800:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.039listen, if we're looking at viruses, and it's little off track,41900:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.880but a virus, is that aliving thing? Okay, I mean some42000:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.240people say no, some people sayyeah, at least it's the potential.42100:28:37.319 --> 00:28:44.309Right, most people. You'd haveto be a little bit sick. We're42200:28:44.390 --> 00:28:48.589not sick. You just stupid tobelieve that an unborn child in the womb42300:28:48.750 --> 00:28:52.589is not a living thing. Itis a living thing. And of course42400:28:52.670 --> 00:28:56.579the argument is from their standpoint,pro choice people standpoint, is it.42500:28:56.859 --> 00:29:00.099Yes, it's a living thing,but it's not a person. It does42600:29:00.220 --> 00:29:03.539have personhood and of course viruses don'thave personhood, and that's true. We42700:29:04.380 --> 00:29:07.500we believe that it is a personright. We believe that there's a person42800:29:07.539 --> 00:29:11.490there inside the womb and that yourdecision to what you want to do,42900:29:11.569 --> 00:29:14.490quote, with your body, isgoing to affect that person to the point43000:29:14.490 --> 00:29:17.529where that person is going to die. In this case, you know,43100:29:17.650 --> 00:29:22.730this man may infect other people andother people may die. That's a possibility43200:29:23.130 --> 00:29:27.519in an abortion, at least fromour standpoint, it definitely will affected of43300:29:27.559 --> 00:29:33.599the person that that other person definitelywill die if a woman exercises her bodily43400:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.599autonomy to to have an abortion.Yeah, yeah, so you would.43500:29:37.920 --> 00:29:42.750It's a there's a should be agreater punishment. Yeah, whide. There43600:29:42.869 --> 00:29:47.390is a definite death versus a Psibbule. Yeah, yeah, in the43700:29:47.470 --> 00:29:49.710other yeah, no doubt about it. And so it just seems to me43800:29:51.029 --> 00:29:53.460a little hypocritical, yeah, forpeople who would claim to be pro choice43900:29:53.500 --> 00:29:57.779and all, for like bodily autonomyis the end all of everything, to44000:29:59.099 --> 00:30:00.460be okay with this. Yeah,a minute. I mean, yeah,44100:30:00.500 --> 00:30:03.619he's his decision is going to affectother people, right, some my body,44200:30:03.740 --> 00:30:07.970not my choice in him, notin this situation. But I think44300:30:07.210 --> 00:30:12.609most people will agree that this isan appropriate restriction, and this is kind44400:30:12.650 --> 00:30:18.089of the point. This is anappropriate restriction imposed by the government on a44500:30:18.210 --> 00:30:22.519person who doesn't want to do theright thing. People talk about in the44600:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.920abortion conversations that you and I've hadis a government forcing the morality of some44700:30:27.160 --> 00:30:32.640people on other people. Right,the can't have an abortion. And you44800:30:32.759 --> 00:30:37.630know there's restrictions and stuff that peoplehave imposed and they're saying that's religious legislators44900:30:37.670 --> 00:30:45.910imposing their morality on women. Thisis legislators, this is government officials imposing45000:30:47.190 --> 00:30:51.819their morality on this man. Exactly. They're saying his quality of life is45100:30:52.099 --> 00:30:56.259not as important as all the peoplethat he might ultimately harm. Yeah,45200:30:56.420 --> 00:31:00.900yeah, and it seems again,it seems to be a contradiction. If45300:31:00.940 --> 00:31:06.849you're okay with this, then ifthere's restrictions of the government places on abortion,45400:31:06.930 --> 00:31:08.569why wouldn't you be okay with that? And it's because, you know45500:31:08.730 --> 00:31:11.569pro choice person is going to sayright away, it's because the unborn child45600:31:11.609 --> 00:31:15.170is not a person, people thatmight be infected by this gay our people.45700:31:15.329 --> 00:31:18.000Yeah, yeah, you know,think is which we have demolished that45800:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.720argument and other think we can thinkwe have and I'll look at that.45900:31:22.160 --> 00:31:29.079Yeah, so here's another point aboutone of the commonalities, okay, between46000:31:29.119 --> 00:31:37.029abortion and coronavirus. Does the Biblesay anything about protecting the vulnerable, because,46100:31:37.109 --> 00:31:41.990for example, the elderly, yeah, or those with the underlying issues46200:31:41.150 --> 00:31:48.380are very vulnerable right now, apparently, absolutely, during this coronavirus. Does46300:31:48.460 --> 00:31:52.140the Bible say anything about how weare to treat those who are elderly?46400:31:52.900 --> 00:31:56.700And, of course we know itdoes. Yeah, talk about that.46500:31:56.779 --> 00:32:01.690In the elderly are are very effective, very effected, a very effected sorry,46600:32:01.890 --> 00:32:08.930correct. So let's talk about likeone of those verses that tells us46700:32:09.410 --> 00:32:15.039how we are to treat the vulnerable. Yeah, and well, and others.46800:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.559Let's talk about the dynamic of whichis why we do what we do,46900:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.599exactly, speaking for these unborn children, and it's the dynamic of taking47000:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.599up your cross, laying down yourlife for the sake of other people.47100:32:25.799 --> 00:32:29.839Right, I don't go out tothe sidewalk in front of an abortion clinic,47200:32:30.430 --> 00:32:32.190regardless of what pro choice people mightsay, to stroke my ego.47300:32:32.630 --> 00:32:36.349Ego, if I want to strokemy ego and feel better about myself,47400:32:36.710 --> 00:32:38.950there's a lot of other places Icould go, my fun places. Yes,47500:32:39.069 --> 00:32:44.150exactly. I go out there becauseI see that there's a group of47600:32:44.190 --> 00:32:46.660people are dying and I am,by God's grace, willing to lay my47700:32:46.700 --> 00:32:50.220life down for them. That's whyI go out. I'm willing to lay47800:32:50.259 --> 00:32:52.339my life down. And you know, you people who are on social media47900:32:52.339 --> 00:32:57.140and you're complaining about having to bequarantine, you're complaining about whatever you're complaining48000:32:57.220 --> 00:33:00.569about. You know, we're calledto lay our lives down for other people48100:33:00.769 --> 00:33:04.170and it is a suffering to haveto stay home. Maybe you're in the48200:33:04.289 --> 00:33:07.170category of people who won't really beaffected. If you did get this thing,48300:33:07.730 --> 00:33:10.690it would just be like a badcold, or not even that.48400:33:10.849 --> 00:33:14.759Some people are saying it's like totallyjust a mild old people have it,48500:33:14.839 --> 00:33:16.359don't even know it right. Maybeyou're one of those people. Yeah,48600:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.880but understand it's not about you.Yeah, one of the the major concerns48700:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.960here, which kind of shifted mythinking about this thing, is that you48800:33:27.039 --> 00:33:31.990could pass along to somebody who caneasily be affected by this saying and it'll48900:33:32.150 --> 00:33:35.869put them out, possibly kill them. Yeah, who made that may be49000:33:36.029 --> 00:33:40.069hidden that, whatever their disability orwhatever that they're facing could be completely hidden49100:33:40.069 --> 00:33:43.940from you, and you'll make passthem in the grocery store and think,49200:33:44.059 --> 00:33:47.700no big deal, but you're verypassing touching things that they're going to touch49300:33:47.940 --> 00:33:52.779could put their lives in jeopardy.Yeah, yeah, exactly. And again,49400:33:52.819 --> 00:33:54.700they're not those you might just geta cold. They're not just going49500:33:54.730 --> 00:33:58.210to get a cold. It's goingto affect them to the point where some49600:33:58.490 --> 00:34:00.410people have died. I mean thatis the major concern, is the the49700:34:00.490 --> 00:34:06.009weak and the vulnerable, the elderlymainly, who's with underlying conditions, what49800:34:06.089 --> 00:34:08.489they said. So we've got tobe considerate of that, that sort of49900:34:08.570 --> 00:34:12.639thing. We are called to layour lives down. I lay my life50000:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.719down by going out to the portionclinic that sometimes maybe I need to lay50100:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.400my life down by, you know, not having a church service on Sunday,50200:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.800right, and setting that aside forseason. And I know someone's thinking,50300:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.510because I thought it. Well,but you're out on the sidewalk,50400:34:27.630 --> 00:34:30.750yeah, and you're you're not sociallyisolating yourself. Yeah, but I did,50500:34:30.829 --> 00:34:35.190and I think that is a validthing to mention. But but we50600:34:35.309 --> 00:34:38.380are being careful. We are,we are, we we are not hugging50700:34:38.420 --> 00:34:43.179each other, we are not shakinghands and we are trying to shakes.50800:34:43.260 --> 00:34:45.539Now it's been the hand. Oh, yeah, right, has nasty.50900:34:45.539 --> 00:34:50.500Anyway, you know, we're tryingto spread out. We do that anyway51000:34:50.539 --> 00:34:54.690because it's more effective and we're tryingto abide by the SOCIALIA. I mean,51100:34:54.730 --> 00:34:59.730we very rarely, on a weekdayespecially, have more than, you51200:34:59.809 --> 00:35:01.690know what, five or six peopleon the sidewalk anyway, right, so51300:35:01.929 --> 00:35:07.079the over ten people rule is somethingwe just not hard for us to abide51400:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.920by. As far as that goesexactly, we're being very careful to have51500:35:10.079 --> 00:35:16.320the RV cleaned with the antibacterial whistall sprays and things like that. We're51600:35:16.480 --> 00:35:20.440moms are going to be coming onand the protocol is now going to be51700:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.510between MOMS on that RV that everythingis scraped down. Yeah, with the51800:35:23.590 --> 00:35:28.750anti well, you know, youknow today we gave out I think it51900:35:28.909 --> 00:35:32.429was maybe six pieces of literature tothose going into the abortion that you handed52000:35:32.469 --> 00:35:36.579it out. We weren't using gloves, we were using our hands, right.52100:35:37.980 --> 00:35:40.820So that can introduce the factor ofrisk. Yeah, and so there52200:35:40.980 --> 00:35:44.139is a risk, by the way, thyough, because I did read that52300:35:44.380 --> 00:35:50.170on on cardboard and paper items,there is the potential that the virus could52400:35:50.210 --> 00:35:53.289be passed, but it's a verysmall right. Yeah, but there's there's52500:35:53.289 --> 00:35:59.090a realtors, of introducing risk factorthere, and we understand that. Now52600:35:59.369 --> 00:36:04.480we're being intentional in about cleaning ourhands and not sexing you wiping my nose52700:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.239with my hand and put in allthese literature that's grousing anyway. Yeah,52800:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.760but one of the dynamics, asyou're thinking about that, is what I52900:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.840said earlier. Yeah, people couldpotentially be effect I means that potential there53000:36:16.960 --> 00:36:22.110for one of US cities for lifecounselor to pass this thing along. It's53100:36:22.110 --> 00:36:25.190a potential for anybody that's that's apotential for anybody in, you know,53200:36:25.469 --> 00:36:30.949in society. But we know sothat could happen, certainly. But one53300:36:30.989 --> 00:36:35.739of the things that we do knowthat is happening is that abortion clinic is53400:36:35.780 --> 00:36:38.900open, babies are dying and ifwe're not there, those children are not53500:36:39.059 --> 00:36:42.219going to have a voice. That'sright. No one is going to be53600:36:42.300 --> 00:36:45.099there to speak on their behalf.And we do know that our presence out53700:36:45.099 --> 00:36:50.010there on that sidewalk is effective atsaving lies. So we know two things.53800:36:50.289 --> 00:36:52.530We know that babies are dying andour presence out there makes a difference.53900:36:52.849 --> 00:36:57.010So we have to you know again, we're not trying to put other54000:36:57.090 --> 00:37:00.889people at risk, but we're takinga risk to be out there on the54100:37:00.929 --> 00:37:06.239sidewalk because those babies deserve our voice. Yeah, and we know that more54200:37:06.400 --> 00:37:12.039babies are going to die, probablydid die today in our city of shires54300:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.269and our city, just in ourcity alone. Then all of the deaths54400:37:15.590 --> 00:37:19.550in the United States. That's yeah, I'm not sure that with the with54500:37:19.630 --> 00:37:22.030the tally, I don't know whatalready was. A hundred right, and54600:37:22.150 --> 00:37:24.030you know, we see, wecan say surely in a week's time we54700:37:24.150 --> 00:37:29.150see a hundred and fifty. Thetwo hundred babies die, everything Le Rope54800:37:29.190 --> 00:37:30.940in our city, trout. Yes, so mainly at latrobe. Yeah,54900:37:31.179 --> 00:37:36.099and so, you know, notmaking light at all of those people that55000:37:36.179 --> 00:37:38.860have been affected and who've died fromthe coronavirus. Not Making light at all.55100:37:39.019 --> 00:37:44.489But we definitely know the their babiesdying and that we should intervene.55200:37:44.570 --> 00:37:50.369And these babies are in God's viewand thereby an our view. Just as55300:37:50.409 --> 00:37:53.769valuable is people who were potentially affectedby about rights. They're human beings made55400:37:53.769 --> 00:37:59.400in his M yeah, now we'renot ignoring the fact that there is an55500:37:59.440 --> 00:38:04.280authority of government and we as asChristians, need to obey yeah, a55600:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.840government, and we did talk aboutthis in another podcast, the Rom we55700:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.039did thirteen. Yeah, we talkedto authority of God, about of government,55800:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.550civil disobedience, right, and where. That what our mentality is on55900:38:15.630 --> 00:38:19.269that what it should be, right, right, but this does tie into56000:38:19.309 --> 00:38:22.070that. You know, somebody askedme today whatever volunteers said. Okay,56100:38:22.590 --> 00:38:27.659so I'm hearing about and please don'tgo with this as a conspiracy theory.56200:38:27.780 --> 00:38:30.940Guess. Okay, but this volunteerhas heard through the grape vine, and56300:38:31.099 --> 00:38:35.420whether it's true or not, herematesare flying, they're flying all around,56400:38:35.739 --> 00:38:38.980that the government is going to placethe entire United States on lockdown. So56500:38:39.139 --> 00:38:44.449it'll be just mandatory stay in yourhome. Yeah, what do they call56600:38:44.570 --> 00:38:46.610a shelter at? Shelter in place. Yeah, so they're going to put56700:38:46.610 --> 00:38:51.570that. So what's what's our positiongoing to be? Are we going to56800:38:52.090 --> 00:38:54.130be willing to come out even ifthe abortion clinic is opening? In my56900:38:54.210 --> 00:38:57.880mind, if they're going to dothat shelter in place thing and they allow57000:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.159these abortion clinics to stay open?Right, that's ridiculous. Right. I57100:39:00.199 --> 00:39:06.800mean, they're already talking about doctor'soffice. Should limit limit these elected procedures57200:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.869which abortion is elected in elected procedure. Certainly, not just because you know57300:39:10.949 --> 00:39:15.389it's dangerous and spread the virus,but also to keep the medical supplies and57400:39:15.429 --> 00:39:19.269stuff from being used in ways,yeah, that you know they could be57500:39:19.309 --> 00:39:22.829used to help these coronavirus passions.Right. So, but you know,57600:39:22.949 --> 00:39:25.940and so he asked me that question, if they're still open and there's a57700:39:27.059 --> 00:39:30.420shelter in place order, yeah,and you can only come out for essential57800:39:30.420 --> 00:39:34.860things. What is your view ofthis going to be? And immediately I'm57900:39:34.900 --> 00:39:37.730like, well, what we're doingis essential. It's essential to these babies,58000:39:37.769 --> 00:39:39.769and that's going to be my argument. I am going to come out58100:39:39.809 --> 00:39:43.690and I'm going to stand on thatsidewalk now, if I have to be,58200:39:44.090 --> 00:39:45.570you know, I'm not going to. If they come and threatened to58300:39:45.730 --> 00:39:49.130put me in jail if I leave, I'm not going to go to jail.58400:39:50.369 --> 00:39:54.159Well, hopefully Gott'll give me wisdom. It will cross that bridge,58500:39:55.199 --> 00:40:00.119across that bridge and we get there. But you know, that is a58600:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.000question that we need to ask ourselves. And what is wisdom in that situation?58700:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.150And how do we apply the principleof laying our lives down for our58800:40:07.190 --> 00:40:10.550neighbors, because it's sort of athere's a tension there, yeah, right,58900:40:10.710 --> 00:40:15.070that we need to you know,sort of a bit of biblical tension59000:40:15.110 --> 00:40:16.309that we need to consider, weneed to pray through and we need to59100:40:16.510 --> 00:40:20.389and you apply wisdom. Yeah,and it does. It is directly.59200:40:20.550 --> 00:40:24.099Okay, are we obeying God?Or if if the government comes and tells59300:40:24.099 --> 00:40:28.139us to do something that goes againstwhat we know in our heart God is59400:40:28.260 --> 00:40:31.579telling us clearly, yeah, andhis word and in our spirit to do,59500:40:32.500 --> 00:40:37.050then we need to hopeake on.Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So59600:40:37.449 --> 00:40:42.530that's not to me. That's nota cut and dry thing try to figure59700:40:42.530 --> 00:40:44.969out, but I think in thosesituations you have to do the best that59800:40:45.050 --> 00:40:47.530we can. Yeah, you know, the government has has said as a59900:40:47.610 --> 00:40:53.480recommendation, not as a mandate.They have mandated in the state North Carolina60000:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.320that no gatherings of a hundred peopleare more. That's not a problem for60100:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.800us, but they have from theCDC and from, you know, the60200:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.670federal government, recommended that no morethan ten people should be together in the60300:41:05.750 --> 00:41:08.030same place. But we know inthe abortion center there's more than ten people.60400:41:08.030 --> 00:41:10.070Oh Yeah, today they were justthe workers. Yeah, I mean60500:41:10.150 --> 00:41:14.070just the workers. Yeah, probablySol is is close to ten? If60600:41:14.150 --> 00:41:15.909not? Yeah, yeah, certainly. But you know, I have a60700:41:15.949 --> 00:41:19.659family of ten, as I mentionedearlier. Yeah, I can't even have60800:41:19.780 --> 00:41:22.460a guess they but you can haveanother baby. Blue Families have twelve kids,60900:41:22.739 --> 00:41:24.699you know, and it's like well, I gotta send some outside.61000:41:24.699 --> 00:41:29.019Of course not, right. Right. So there's something you can't abide by61100:41:29.420 --> 00:41:30.940and it's not a law, it'sjust a recommendation, right, but if61200:41:30.980 --> 00:41:36.650it becomes a law, that's justsomething that you can abide by in some61300:41:36.809 --> 00:41:40.130way. If, especially for thosebig families, I can't obey this.61400:41:40.170 --> 00:41:44.010Yeah, you know, yeah,it's a it's a it's a little bit61500:41:44.769 --> 00:41:46.090over the top, I think so. In a lot of this over the61600:41:46.239 --> 00:41:50.559top is is a result of fear. There's so much over the top that's61700:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.880a result of fear, and Ithought it was a very interesting comparison,61800:41:54.639 --> 00:42:00.869excuse me, between coronavirus and abortion, in that I would say a huge61900:42:00.869 --> 00:42:05.989driver of abortion is fear. OhYeah, yes, we were an article62000:42:06.030 --> 00:42:08.269about that. In the sidewalks oflife, you know, the spirit of62100:42:08.309 --> 00:42:12.949fear, a spear understanding that womencome to an abortion clinic under a spirit62200:42:12.989 --> 00:42:15.780of fear life, right, theyfastically they face overwhelming obstacles. In their62300:42:15.860 --> 00:42:21.659mind they're terrified, they don't feellike they can face the future with this62400:42:21.940 --> 00:42:25.380baby, and so they do thisunthinkable act. A mother killing her own62500:42:25.380 --> 00:42:31.090child and coronavirus. The panic isclearly fueled by fear. Yeah, there62600:42:31.250 --> 00:42:37.210is. I I would give themthat. There are some facts that certainly,62700:42:37.570 --> 00:42:39.849I think, justify what they're tryingto do and some, yeah,62800:42:39.929 --> 00:42:44.760maybe, maybe not at all,but but in most areas. But but62900:42:44.920 --> 00:42:46.920so fear. So how do wecombat? I think that's an important thing63000:42:47.039 --> 00:42:50.800to maybe, as we're getting closeto the end of this, talk about63100:42:51.199 --> 00:42:55.639how do we combat as believers,how do we combat fear? Yeah,63200:42:55.920 --> 00:43:00.429because fears the driver. Yeah,for many people not say that, you63300:43:00.469 --> 00:43:02.829know. That's why people. Mywife was in the grocery store on Monday63400:43:02.869 --> 00:43:08.670getting groceries and graciously the Lord providedyeah, the grocers. That were a63500:43:08.909 --> 00:43:12.510paper. We already had something,so we were good on that. But63600:43:12.590 --> 00:43:15.579there was a lady walking down theaisles and I'm like that lady. They63700:43:15.659 --> 00:43:19.820she all locked her up because he'swalking down the aisles and saying everybody get63800:43:19.820 --> 00:43:22.579everything unique because the government's about toshut everything down, and she's just she's63900:43:22.699 --> 00:43:27.809fear mongering right. She she's spreadingthat, and then I can that's prettier64000:43:27.889 --> 00:43:30.170panic and she's obviously under her fear. And you know, I can get64100:43:30.170 --> 00:43:35.570it. You know there's some unknowns. Every time there's unknowns in our lives,64200:43:35.610 --> 00:43:37.969there's a potential for fear. Yeah, right, I mean we can64300:43:37.969 --> 00:43:40.210get overwhelmed by fear. Yeah,the Scripture tells us that God has not64400:43:40.289 --> 00:43:45.039given us a spirit of fear,but of power, love and a sound64500:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.880mind. So that spirit of fear, it doesn't come from the Lord.64600:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.920There's so many. One preacher said, several preachers were said it, that64700:43:52.440 --> 00:43:57.429the command given more time than anyother command in the Bible is fear not.64800:43:57.750 --> 00:44:00.949It's not a suggestion, it's fearnot. It's an encouragement from the64900:44:00.989 --> 00:44:02.949Lord to not be afraid. Andthey're one of the things that I've scripture.65000:44:02.949 --> 00:44:06.909I've been meditating them even before thisthing, but just based on some65100:44:06.949 --> 00:44:08.309of the things we've been dealing withas a family, some of the battles65200:44:08.349 --> 00:44:10.179we've been in, and I knowa lot of people in a bunch of65300:44:10.219 --> 00:44:16.780different battles. Is Psalm Ninety onethose who abide. He abides in the65400:44:16.860 --> 00:44:21.820secret place of the most high.Will will he who dwells already in the65500:44:21.820 --> 00:44:24.050secret path of the most high wellabide into the shadow of the Almighty?65600:44:24.090 --> 00:44:28.449And so God has just been comfortingme with Psalm Ninety one. And if65700:44:28.489 --> 00:44:30.889you guys hadn't read that Salm ina while, get into that, meditate65800:44:30.969 --> 00:44:32.969on that Psalm. It even talksabout pestlings. You'll not be overtaken by65900:44:34.050 --> 00:44:38.119pestlings, and it just can helpus get in a place of off faith66000:44:38.320 --> 00:44:42.519rather than fear, because that isthe opposite, I think. Well,66100:44:42.719 --> 00:44:47.360maybe not exact opposite, but walkingin fear and walking in faith are too66200:44:47.480 --> 00:44:52.519very opposite things, very different things. Yeah, walking in faith, you66300:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.909know, you've got the overthetop youknow, if you truly believe in God,66400:44:55.070 --> 00:44:58.869if you truly believe God's sovereign,then you you'll go to church and66500:44:58.989 --> 00:45:01.869you'll whatever. You know, you'llyou'll wipe your nose on, touch those66600:45:01.909 --> 00:45:07.110people that are on the respirator andyeah, yeah, exactly know. Yet66700:45:07.179 --> 00:45:10.500that over the top kind of mentalityand that's not really faith. Faith is66800:45:10.860 --> 00:45:15.659first faith is looking at God's word. That's what we're hopefully helping you guys66900:45:15.739 --> 00:45:17.099to do. Look in God's words, see the principles of God's word.67000:45:17.300 --> 00:45:22.289So faith it's first and foremost doingwhat God's word says. Stepping out in67100:45:22.409 --> 00:45:25.369faith is stepping out in the troopsof God's word. But faith also doesn't67200:45:25.449 --> 00:45:30.730look stupid, right. Just don'tbe stupid. How about that? Maybe67300:45:30.769 --> 00:45:31.929that's the word of wisdom from youguys. Listen, don't be stupid.67400:45:31.969 --> 00:45:36.360It's not faith to just do whateveryou want, whenever you want. We67500:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.559have to consider other people. Butalso we can't be under fear, you67600:45:38.679 --> 00:45:43.880know, staying behind closed doors justbecause you're afraid of going out that you67700:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.519might get some virus. That's thatmight affect you. You can't live in67800:45:47.559 --> 00:45:51.110the world of might, might,this, might this. You know,67900:45:51.550 --> 00:45:55.389are that we should have this levelof trust in the Lord his goodness,68000:45:55.469 --> 00:45:59.949in his provision and apply wisdom.Yeah, I'm I'm working my way through68100:45:59.989 --> 00:46:07.980numbers and I just loved this fromnumbers thirteen. Okay, we're Caleb and68200:46:07.019 --> 00:46:12.619the others have spied out the promisedland, and remember the most of the68300:46:12.659 --> 00:46:15.380spies come back quivering. Oh yeah, there is no way we can fear68400:46:15.420 --> 00:46:17.889there. And then they are underspirit of fear. Those are giants.68500:46:19.010 --> 00:46:21.969Yeah, and all they could seewhere those giants and that they could never68600:46:22.130 --> 00:46:29.570defeat the giants. But Caleb,this is the verse in numbers thirteen,68700:46:29.610 --> 00:46:35.119starting in verse thirty. But Calebquieted the people before Moses and said,68800:46:35.119 --> 00:46:39.079let us go up at once andoccupy it, for we are well able68900:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.239to overcome it. And then theverse goes on and just talks about the69000:46:43.280 --> 00:46:47.190fear of the spies and they ultimatelydefy caleb and defy God and and are69100:46:47.269 --> 00:46:52.909punished. Yeah, but but lateron were told that Caleb was a man69200:46:53.030 --> 00:46:58.630who followed God. Yeah, andand trusted in God and didn't let that69300:46:58.909 --> 00:47:04.300fear overwhelm following what God would havehim do. Yeah, yeah, and69400:47:04.659 --> 00:47:07.980you know, Caleb had to lookcrazy to the people around him, and69500:47:08.059 --> 00:47:13.940the majority of the people were actuallyagainst what Caleb was was telling them.69600:47:14.860 --> 00:47:19.329So what made Caleb different than therest of the people? What what did69700:47:19.409 --> 00:47:22.369his confidence in, his lack offear? He wasn't you. He doesn't69800:47:22.409 --> 00:47:25.489point out, Hey, we're wellable to overcome this thing, because look69900:47:25.489 --> 00:47:29.010at all the armies we got andlook at all the other people we've defeated70000:47:29.050 --> 00:47:32.159based on our own our own strength. Well, listen to this. I70100:47:32.320 --> 00:47:36.199can answer from scripture, which isthe best because I write. Okay,70200:47:36.280 --> 00:47:39.440this is it's perfect. Okay,numbers fourteen, twenty four. Answers your70300:47:39.480 --> 00:47:44.550question. All right, all right. What was different about Caleb? Yeah,70400:47:44.590 --> 00:47:46.750would did he understand? where?What was his perspective here? It70500:47:46.949 --> 00:47:52.030wasn't the others perspective, but myservant Caleb, this is God's. Yeah,70600:47:52.269 --> 00:47:59.380but my servant Caleb, because hehas a different spirit and has followed70700:47:59.659 --> 00:48:04.300me fully. I will bring intothe land in which he went and his70800:48:04.500 --> 00:48:09.579descendants shall possess it. So here'sthe key, a different spirit that fully70900:48:09.619 --> 00:48:15.130follows God. Yeah, that isnot saying, in terms of coronavirus,71000:48:15.210 --> 00:48:19.329that we're supposed to just run outthere and say I'm going to go touch71100:48:19.369 --> 00:48:23.289everyone. Yeah, I have coveredwith God's grace and mercy and he will71200:48:23.369 --> 00:48:28.280protect me, but it is tosay, be very aware of what God71300:48:28.920 --> 00:48:34.480is saying and follow him fully.Yeah, yeah, you. Caleb knew71400:48:34.519 --> 00:48:38.199God. Yeah, Caleb Knew Godwas on his side. So Caleb didn't71500:48:38.199 --> 00:48:43.510walk in fear, he walked infaith. He knew God and he knew71600:48:43.510 --> 00:48:46.070what God was able to do asfar as conquering the land here and these71700:48:46.110 --> 00:48:51.429other people who were not like CableCaleb, who had a different spirit right,71800:48:51.550 --> 00:48:53.510had a spirit of fear. Theywere afraid of the future. And71900:48:53.630 --> 00:48:57.900I get it, guys and andno one's saying, please, don't take72000:48:57.900 --> 00:49:00.820you to this way that if you'reif you're applying wisdom and you're staying at72100:49:00.820 --> 00:49:06.780home and you've got sick or maybesick loved ones, or you've got people72200:49:06.900 --> 00:49:08.380well that if they can get sickfrom this thing, that they would get72300:49:08.780 --> 00:49:13.289staying at home, that's that's whilestem. Yeah, absolutely so, no72400:49:13.409 --> 00:49:16.690one saying you're faithless, but wecan't be coward down in a spirit of72500:49:16.730 --> 00:49:21.449fear and just be under this thingthinking that, you know, if it72600:49:21.530 --> 00:49:24.519flows out of selfishness. Yeah,and only you can tell that. If72700:49:24.559 --> 00:49:29.400it flows out of selfishness, you'reoperating under a spirit of fear. If72800:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.440it flows out of selflessness, thenyou're operating in faith. I would say72900:49:32.440 --> 00:49:36.079that would be that would be agood principle to go by. Think he's73000:49:36.199 --> 00:49:39.630crazy, just self preservation, orare you considered of other people? Yeah,73100:49:40.190 --> 00:49:44.309and and that'll help. I thinkpeople gage, Hey, am understring73200:49:44.429 --> 00:49:45.949fear, and if you are,you know what shirk that thing off.73300:49:46.150 --> 00:49:49.469Yeah, get in the word ofGod. See what God's Word said,73400:49:49.510 --> 00:49:52.699follow him wholeheartedly. Like him,lordly. Yeah, and again, we're73500:49:52.699 --> 00:49:55.780not saying you're faithless if you're stayingat home. That's not the point of73600:49:55.820 --> 00:49:59.940this podcast. We're talked not totempt the Lord, and I think that73700:50:00.139 --> 00:50:05.260is tempting the Lord when you're walkinginto a danger that is is clearly going73800:50:05.300 --> 00:50:07.690to harm other put putting yourself anunnecessary danger right, and putting others in73900:50:07.769 --> 00:50:13.170a necessary danger right, is youknow, it's that's not faith right,74000:50:13.530 --> 00:50:16.289that's you know, that's the deviltelling Jesus, Hey, if you're the74100:50:16.329 --> 00:50:21.010son of God, throw yourself offexactly, because God will sect you exactly.74200:50:21.130 --> 00:50:23.079And he's actually, I believe,the devil is quote in Psalm Ninety74300:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.719one. Yeah, and that passes. Matter of fact, I'm fairly confident.74400:50:25.800 --> 00:50:30.239Yeah, is. And this isthe this is a psalm of protection,74500:50:30.320 --> 00:50:32.599in God's right, protecting those whostay in abide in him right.74600:50:32.800 --> 00:50:38.349And so the devil will prefer scriptureand UN knowing human beings will pervert scripture74700:50:38.389 --> 00:50:40.750to and make it apply in away that it shouldn't. So you don't74800:50:40.789 --> 00:50:45.590tempt God all right, but walkin faith. Yeah, so, I74900:50:45.710 --> 00:50:49.309mean I think that's is that isthat? Yeah, wrapping US o?75000:50:49.510 --> 00:50:52.059Yeah, yeah, so I hopeyou guys are blessed by this. I75100:50:52.179 --> 00:50:57.340hope that you know we've given yousome solid stuff. As I started,75200:50:57.460 --> 00:51:00.139you know, I said we're goingto have a conversation, probably not going75300:51:00.179 --> 00:51:02.059to give you a whole lot morethan you already have. I think that75400:51:02.219 --> 00:51:05.809we have that. You think we'vetouched on some stuff. I've been encouraged75500:51:05.849 --> 00:51:09.010to this and just thought through somethings a little more than that I had75600:51:09.090 --> 00:51:14.250before. We Are we want toencourage you guys. You be willing to75700:51:14.289 --> 00:51:16.409reach out, be willing to reachout to neighbors. If there are people75800:51:16.929 --> 00:51:21.239in our church is doing a thingwhere if you're able bodied and you can75900:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.079deliver meals to people, or ifyou can do things like go get groceries76000:51:24.119 --> 00:51:30.760for people, obviously using proper sanitarymethods and all of that, then are76100:51:30.760 --> 00:51:32.630you willing to do that, asour church is doing that, orchestrateing some76200:51:32.949 --> 00:51:36.949people to go out and help others, you know, in a wise way?76300:51:37.429 --> 00:51:38.190If you can do that, ifyou can help your neighbors, if76400:51:38.230 --> 00:51:43.510maybe if you got eighty seven rollsor eighty seven packs of tilet aaports them76500:51:43.510 --> 00:51:45.909out and come to my house,because we don't have that money. Maybe76600:51:46.030 --> 00:51:49.860you can step out in that wayand right and certainly you can be a76700:51:49.900 --> 00:51:52.260witness wherever you are for the Lord. Yeah, be praying. Also,76800:51:52.340 --> 00:51:54.780be praying for our nation, likeI said, and we as a family76900:51:55.099 --> 00:51:59.460we're praying every night. We're prayingfor this country, praying for the leaders.77000:51:59.500 --> 00:52:00.570The Bible tells us. Pray forour leaders, who guess. Pray77100:52:00.650 --> 00:52:05.889for your leaders. Pray for repentance. Pray whether that this is a judgment77200:52:05.969 --> 00:52:09.170from God. If it is,then be praying that the nation will turn77300:52:09.210 --> 00:52:12.489back to the Lord. If itain't, be praying that the nation will77400:52:12.489 --> 00:52:15.320turn back to the Lord. It'sat least an opportunity for that. So77500:52:16.679 --> 00:52:20.800reach out to us if there's thingsthat we touched on in this podcast that77600:52:20.880 --> 00:52:22.360you like for us to expound all. Maybe we can take some opportunity to77700:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.559that. Maybe we messed up andwe said something that that offended you.77800:52:25.880 --> 00:52:30.429Wouldn't be the first time. Reachout. Let us know. We'd like77900:52:30.510 --> 00:52:31.550to talk with you and verse withyou about it. You can reach out78000:52:31.550 --> 00:52:36.150to me, D parks, atcities for lifecom, Vicky is Vikasse orget78100:52:36.190 --> 00:52:37.789cities for lifecom. We'd love tohear from you, guys. Share this78200:52:37.909 --> 00:52:42.150podcast if you think it'll be ablessing to other people. Lead a leave78300:52:42.190 --> 00:52:45.539us a review in apple podcast orthe other podcast platforms that you use.78400:52:46.059 --> 00:53:00.170And until next time, God blessme for love. Give me our love78500:53:00.409 --> 00:53:12.809for gratitude. I know it willcost me my life. Nothing's too precious.78600:53:13.119 --> 00:53:14.480And some you