Aug. 26, 2021

What Do You Do When An Ambulance Shows Up At the Abortion Center?

What Do You Do When An Ambulance Shows Up At the Abortion Center?

We know that abortion centers are not safe places. They certainly aren’t safe for the babies that are killed but they can also be unsafe for the mothers who are aborting. Because of that, there will be emergency situations that arise with the...


We know that abortion centers are not safe places. They certainly aren’t safe for the babies that are killed but they can also be unsafe for the mothers who are aborting. Because of that, there will be emergency situations that arise with the possibility that an ambulance showing up at the abortion center. Join us we talk through some of the best ways to deal with this if it does happen. 

https://sidewalks4life.com/what-to-do-if-an-ambulance-arrives/ 

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:11.789 Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel 3 00:00:11.830 --> 00:00:17.390 Center pre life podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you 4 00:00:17.510 --> 00:00:21.660 in pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned, 5 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:35.340 I felt show Passish, touch your heart. Use Me. Welcome back 6 00:00:35.420 --> 00:00:39.649 to the Gospel centered pro life podcasts. Appreciate you, guys, listening and, 7 00:00:40.130 --> 00:00:42.890 as always, would appreciate if you, guess, would share this podcast 8 00:00:42.929 --> 00:00:48.210 episode with your friends, with other people that you think would be encouraging equip 9 00:00:48.329 --> 00:00:51.159 by this podcast. And that's what this is all about. This is about 10 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:56.560 encouraging equipping people who are doing ministry at abortion centers on the sidewalk, just 11 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:00.119 sharing some of our experiences. Some of the things that have come across our 12 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:03.430 radar, come come across our desk, things that we subjects that we think 13 00:01:03.829 --> 00:01:07.790 would be a blessing to talk through, maybe subjects that you wouldn't think so 14 00:01:07.870 --> 00:01:11.349 much about, especially if you're brand new to this ministry. But this kind 15 00:01:11.349 --> 00:01:15.430 of candom came across my radar the other day as we were in front of 16 00:01:15.469 --> 00:01:19.739 the abortion center right and an ambulance showed up, YEP, and if you're 17 00:01:19.780 --> 00:01:23.700 out track, yeah, and Aartrad if you're out there for any length of 18 00:01:23.780 --> 00:01:26.500 time. We know that these are not safe play. This is they're not 19 00:01:26.540 --> 00:01:33.250 good places. MM. And their various reasons why ambulance ambulances show up. 20 00:01:33.250 --> 00:01:36.890 I mean ambulances show up at other medical facilities as well. So we can't 21 00:01:36.890 --> 00:01:40.650 always assume that it's a botched abortion, right, but it certainly could be 22 00:01:40.810 --> 00:01:45.329 that. So we're going to talk through what do you do when an ambulance 23 00:01:45.370 --> 00:01:48.760 shows up at the abortion center? What are some things to do, or 24 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:53.400 are some things not to do maybe? And so let's talk through that. 25 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:57.879 Yeah, yeah, I know. For me, you know, there's the 26 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:01.989 horror of it showing up and you thinking it might indeed be a botched abortion, 27 00:02:02.909 --> 00:02:07.870 but there's the the desire on one hand also to use it, to 28 00:02:07.990 --> 00:02:14.830 use it to expose what happens at an abortion center, and there is a 29 00:02:15.030 --> 00:02:20.580 delicate balance between being using it like an ambulance chaser, right like, for 30 00:02:20.699 --> 00:02:24.099 your own purposes, and being sensitive that to the fact that this is a 31 00:02:24.580 --> 00:02:30.409 someone is hurt, right and in possibly in very bad circumstances, in danger, 32 00:02:30.889 --> 00:02:35.610 certainly so. I think it is important to talk about what we should 33 00:02:35.610 --> 00:02:38.490 do, what should be our immediate responses, and and one of the first 34 00:02:38.490 --> 00:02:43.889 things that we always do is we have our camera ready. Yeah, we 35 00:02:44.009 --> 00:02:47.039 want to record the fact that it was there, because you will hear the 36 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:53.319 lie over and over again abortion is safe and the women are not harmed in 37 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.520 an abortion shit. Yeah, and when you can take a photograph of an 38 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:04.789 ambulance in front of an abortion center, that instantly shed some doubt about that 39 00:03:05.030 --> 00:03:08.469 being true. Yeah, absolutely, and I've been out there, you know, 40 00:03:08.590 --> 00:03:13.819 for about the fast past fifteen years or so and from what I have 41 00:03:14.060 --> 00:03:19.939 seen and recall I've seen, ambulance has come there about twelve, maybe thirteen 42 00:03:20.020 --> 00:03:23.460 different times. Yeah, and some that one of those situations I know in 43 00:03:23.539 --> 00:03:27.889 particular, Oh, at least one that I can remember right on the top 44 00:03:27.930 --> 00:03:31.210 of my head. I know for a fact what's abouts abortion situation. Yeah, 45 00:03:31.569 --> 00:03:35.689 some of the other ones could have been, you know, within any 46 00:03:35.770 --> 00:03:39.650 medical facility, and I use medical facility loosely for this, for abortion centers. 47 00:03:39.689 --> 00:03:46.319 Of course, there can be situations that a woman's blood pressure drops or 48 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:51.319 they pass out for some particular reason, or there's other reasons why it is 49 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:53.039 we have to recognize that, right, and that's why I said when I 50 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.550 started out, it's not always a botched abortion. Yeah, so to assume, 51 00:03:57.710 --> 00:04:01.310 to jump to the IT's easy to jump to the worst conclusion possible because 52 00:04:01.310 --> 00:04:04.189 we're dealing with a place at murders children for money. Okay, right, 53 00:04:04.310 --> 00:04:08.229 but we also want to make sure that we're being honest and what we're saying. 54 00:04:08.349 --> 00:04:11.300 Right. So if it's not abouts abortion, we don't need to be, 55 00:04:11.539 --> 00:04:15.099 for example, on the microphone saying there's a botch abortion that just took 56 00:04:15.099 --> 00:04:16.060 place. You know, right, if we don't know that for sure. 57 00:04:16.100 --> 00:04:18.459 Right. So we need to be careful because we want to make sure that 58 00:04:19.220 --> 00:04:24.569 the in form maazing that we're giving as credible. Right. Yeah, yeah, 59 00:04:25.009 --> 00:04:29.649 but also do want to I'm trying to figure out how to phrase this, 60 00:04:30.490 --> 00:04:32.889 so I'll just come out out and say it. Right, we do 61 00:04:33.089 --> 00:04:40.920 want to use the fact that there was an ambulance there as fuel for convincing 62 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.800 a mother not to go inside of that place. Right, exactly. Abortion 63 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.720 is not safe, right. Right. And I do know that we have 64 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:51.800 had pass counselors who were ere nurses and who told us that they would mop 65 00:04:51.800 --> 00:05:00.589 up the effects of the abortion that very same afternoon following an abortion, and 66 00:05:02.550 --> 00:05:08.180 they said that it is more common than we know. Ye, that there 67 00:05:08.180 --> 00:05:12.420 are dangers from abortion and that the ER people are the ones that are dealing 68 00:05:12.500 --> 00:05:15.220 with it. But I do want to say, when you've got your camera 69 00:05:15.339 --> 00:05:17.100 ready, there are some things not to do, and I think it is 70 00:05:17.300 --> 00:05:21.730 very important, yeah, in to be sure that we're not using this for 71 00:05:21.889 --> 00:05:28.689 our purposes without sensitivity to the mom the patient, and that is, don't 72 00:05:28.810 --> 00:05:30.889 photograph a picture of the mother. Yeah, and if you do, if 73 00:05:30.970 --> 00:05:36.240 you get a picture of the person where she is identifiable on the stretcher or 74 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:40.839 whatever, blot it out, yeah, before you share it, right, 75 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:43.879 if you're going to share it, so that no one can identify her, 76 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.480 because that that that is creepy, that we shouldn't do that. Yeah, 77 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:51.870 them. So I do want to make that point, that it's fine to 78 00:05:51.949 --> 00:05:56.430 have the picture of the of the fire truck, the ambulance, them wheeling 79 00:05:56.550 --> 00:06:00.910 someone in an APP, but blot out any identifying features. And then there 80 00:06:00.949 --> 00:06:04.100 are, I guess, sometimes ways that we know it is in a botched 81 00:06:04.100 --> 00:06:09.180 abortion. Right, and I don't know how you knew in in the time 82 00:06:09.420 --> 00:06:14.660 that you knew it was, yea but I know we have found out after 83 00:06:14.779 --> 00:06:19.410 the fact, sometimes by reading reviews, and we and the looking at the 84 00:06:19.449 --> 00:06:24.089 dates for when someone wrote a review. Hey, so and so ended up 85 00:06:24.129 --> 00:06:27.970 in the ear. There was even one where someone had died. Yeah, 86 00:06:28.050 --> 00:06:32.560 and the the mother of that dead patient who had had an abortion, was 87 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:39.319 writing a review and anger and the dates corresponded with when we did see an 88 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:44.360 ambulance there. And another point that I think is important. I I have 89 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:48.430 seen an ambulance probably at least four or five times. They're almost always in 90 00:06:48.629 --> 00:06:54.629 every case, I believe it's in the afternoon, early afternoon. Yeah, 91 00:06:54.750 --> 00:07:00.230 when they think that we are normally not there. Yeah, I rarely see 92 00:07:00.269 --> 00:07:05.420 them show up in the morning, which leads me to believe it's possible they're 93 00:07:05.459 --> 00:07:11.420 holding off calling the ambulance or the fire truck. Yeah, while they know 94 00:07:11.500 --> 00:07:14.660 they're going to be witnessed. Yeah, I believe that's the case. Yeah, 95 00:07:14.819 --> 00:07:17.529 well, know, talking about how do you discern? Well, they're 96 00:07:17.529 --> 00:07:19.930 not. It's about's abortion, because that's one of the things I think we 97 00:07:20.129 --> 00:07:24.410 want to do again. We want to be want to be truthful. I'm 98 00:07:24.490 --> 00:07:27.410 not just you're not just using the fact that there's an ambulance there and just 99 00:07:27.449 --> 00:07:29.649 kind of run with it all. They killed a woman inside of there, 100 00:07:29.769 --> 00:07:33.000 you know, because that would be us just being dishonest and it would show 101 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.160 that we're not credible in what we're saying in other things. Right. Yeah, 102 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:40.120 one of the ways that I knew that the last time we saw an 103 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.279 ambulance there, which is not been terribly long ago, is the fact that 104 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.350 the ambulance didn't take anyone with them. Right. So I didn't assume that 105 00:07:46.470 --> 00:07:49.709 was about's abortion. Hey, I assumed it was likely a woman's blood pressure 106 00:07:49.750 --> 00:07:55.470 dropped and there are certain protocols. Believe it or not, abortion centers sometimes 107 00:07:55.550 --> 00:08:01.500 do follow medical protocols, even though, again, never am I don't accuse 108 00:08:01.579 --> 00:08:03.860 me of trying to paint these people in a good light, because they're not 109 00:08:03.220 --> 00:08:07.860 right, but because they're accountable in certain ways, they've got to do certain 110 00:08:07.899 --> 00:08:09.899 things. So if a woman her blood pressure drops blow a certain level, 111 00:08:11.180 --> 00:08:13.490 they've got to call an ambulance or they can get in trouble, they can 112 00:08:13.569 --> 00:08:18.410 lose our medical license or whatever. Yeah, so apparently in that situation that's 113 00:08:18.410 --> 00:08:20.850 what happened. I remember actually seeing a young lady kind of stagger out of 114 00:08:20.889 --> 00:08:24.610 there and she looked all flush, and you know that's probably what happened, 115 00:08:24.649 --> 00:08:30.000 or blood pressure or blood sugar dropped really low and they had to call an 116 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.919 ambulance. However, they did wait until the afternoon and that woman had been 117 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:37.919 in there for quite a while, so I'm going to guess they waited as 118 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.720 long as they could. Yeah, and they found out we weren't leaving, 119 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.110 so they went ahead and called the Ambul it's because they knew they had to. 120 00:08:43.269 --> 00:08:45.590 So right, could be a situation like that. I'm making that a 121 00:08:45.629 --> 00:08:50.389 few assumptions in that and we can make kind of educated guesses on what's going 122 00:08:50.549 --> 00:08:54.029 on. But again, we don't want to just assume because there's an ambulance 123 00:08:54.070 --> 00:08:58.419 at the abortion center it's a boss abortion. However, if it is about's 124 00:08:58.460 --> 00:09:03.740 abortion, and we got some evidence to prove that, that that needs to 125 00:09:03.860 --> 00:09:09.779 be publicly shown, like people need to see. These are not safe places, 126 00:09:09.049 --> 00:09:16.049 right, these are not health care facilities. Women's lives are ruined and 127 00:09:16.210 --> 00:09:20.450 destroyed, just like babies lives are destroyed inside of that place, so are 128 00:09:20.450 --> 00:09:22.610 the lives of the women. So yeah, yeah, so we will post 129 00:09:22.649 --> 00:09:28.080 it on social media without any identifying features of a woman or anything, so 130 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.080 that she could be identified, but we will post it because we want to 131 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:37.039 raise awareness. Yeah, that abortion is not as safe as the socalled pro 132 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:43.990 choice people would would suggest. Yeah, and so I do think that's an 133 00:09:45.029 --> 00:09:50.149 important use of of our photographs and of our presence there that we expose that. 134 00:09:52.629 --> 00:09:54.500 But also you alluded to earlier, and I think this is probably the 135 00:09:54.659 --> 00:10:01.940 very most valuable thing that we can do if an ambulance shows up and it 136 00:10:03.500 --> 00:10:07.889 that is to use it as a teachable moment. Yeah, for the women 137 00:10:07.929 --> 00:10:11.649 who are still they are. I have seen women leave when they see an 138 00:10:11.690 --> 00:10:16.690 ambulance or a fire truck. They you know, they they already maybe are 139 00:10:16.730 --> 00:10:20.960 feeling some trepidation about whether what they're doing is it is good or not, 140 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.200 and then to see that is kind of like the final Straw, Ye, 141 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:31.200 that it has them leave. So we can use that for others who may 142 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:35.269 be are feeling conflicted. Yeah, yeah, and again it's not necessarily hey, 143 00:10:35.350 --> 00:10:39.429 they just bought an abortion. They might botch your abortion. Could be 144 00:10:39.549 --> 00:10:43.549 the case, could not be the case. We can certainly say we know 145 00:10:43.669 --> 00:10:46.870 that they've bought abortions here in the past and that could possibly be what's going 146 00:10:46.909 --> 00:10:50.299 on inside of there. But one of the things I will say is that 147 00:10:50.779 --> 00:10:54.259 if you came here to hide the fact that you're pregnant and you end up 148 00:10:54.259 --> 00:10:58.539 in a stretcher like that person is, how are you going to explain to 149 00:10:58.580 --> 00:11:01.620 your family why you're here in the hospital? Right, right, be careful, 150 00:11:01.779 --> 00:11:05.090 your sin will find you out. Yeah, that's a warning that we 151 00:11:05.289 --> 00:11:09.330 need to emphasize, because the Bible certainly does, and it's a warning that 152 00:11:09.570 --> 00:11:16.250 is very biblically based and that that is just really critical. Is reminding them 153 00:11:16.730 --> 00:11:22.200 this is a sin and there are repercussions for sin and this could be the 154 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.279 repercussion for you, yeah, as well as for whoever that person is on 155 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:28.480 the stretcher. Yeah. Also, you know, one of the things, 156 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:33.029 like common theme that we see as we're talking to women going into the abortion 157 00:11:33.149 --> 00:11:35.070 center, if we ask them, did you pray and ask God for assign 158 00:11:35.149 --> 00:11:39.990 line, more often than not they say yes, I prayed and ask for 159 00:11:39.029 --> 00:11:43.149 a sign. And so I'll say you think maybe the fact that there's an 160 00:11:43.149 --> 00:11:48.059 ambulance here that's taking woman out of a stretcher at this place that might be 161 00:11:48.100 --> 00:11:52.460 assigned to you that you shouldn't do this, that this is not safe. 162 00:11:52.779 --> 00:11:54.460 Yes, this is not a safe place. Right. That's a really good 163 00:11:54.500 --> 00:11:58.259 point. If you look at the track record of abortion clinics, there's a 164 00:11:58.299 --> 00:12:01.570 website that we point people to. Is Not our website. I don't really 165 00:12:01.570 --> 00:12:05.370 know the people to run this website, but there's some usual information on there, 166 00:12:05.809 --> 00:12:11.090 abortion Docs dot org. They've basically got the track record of the abortionist 167 00:12:11.169 --> 00:12:13.250 and abortion clinics all across the nation. Some of it's uptodate, some of 168 00:12:13.330 --> 00:12:18.519 its older information, but if you look through that website, abortion docs dot 169 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.720 org, and you see all of the things that these abortion clinics, these 170 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:28.440 abortionists are associated with, these are not good people, these are not safe 171 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.269 places. And then, of course, if you know some of the news 172 00:12:31.350 --> 00:12:37.149 of Plant parenthood and other places, think just recently university was called selling baby 173 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:41.669 body parts and things like that, using these these aborted babies for research and 174 00:12:41.750 --> 00:12:48.259 abording children just for research purposes and things like that just just wicked evil stuff. 175 00:12:48.740 --> 00:12:52.059 I think it does serve as a sign and it does show how wicked 176 00:12:52.179 --> 00:12:58.570 and dark and evil these places are. Right and we know that the doctors 177 00:12:58.690 --> 00:13:03.210 maybe are not quite of the highest caliber, just by the fact that we 178 00:13:03.490 --> 00:13:09.250 see all the time the socalled doctors. The abortion is being driven into the 179 00:13:09.289 --> 00:13:13.559 abortion center and they're hiding. Yeah, there, they lie down in the 180 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.240 seat, they cover themselves with a blanket, the driver drives them around to 181 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:20.879 the back of the abortion center and then they quickly race through with the with 182 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:26.120 the you know, Hoodie up and masks and they race through the bushes in 183 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:31.110 the back so that they can't be identified. So they can't be recognized. 184 00:13:31.269 --> 00:13:37.350 And anyone who feels the need to hide from what they do tells you that 185 00:13:37.509 --> 00:13:41.659 maybe what they're doing is not something they are proud of. Yeah, absolutely 186 00:13:43.419 --> 00:13:48.299 so. So, yeah, well, something that I have heard people say 187 00:13:48.500 --> 00:13:50.860 is, well, it's not Christian to be taking pictures of an ambulance and 188 00:13:50.980 --> 00:13:54.379 of someone in their darkest moment. There, there they are, in their 189 00:13:54.419 --> 00:13:58.370 darkest moment in the in a medical emergency. So one of the things I 190 00:13:58.490 --> 00:14:03.610 thought about is as I was thinking through this, is would God do such 191 00:14:03.649 --> 00:14:09.289 a thing? Would he call attention to the damage of sin to others who 192 00:14:09.289 --> 00:14:15.720 are observing? Yeah, well, yes, he does. Cross is one 193 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:20.039 of the most, you know, perfect examples of that. where he is, 194 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.350 there is Jesus, bloodied, mangled, hanging on a cross because of 195 00:14:24.509 --> 00:14:28.789 our sin, and that is God could not be pointing to a more, 196 00:14:30.710 --> 00:14:35.149 you know, perfect picture, yeah, of the consequence of sin, the 197 00:14:35.389 --> 00:14:39.259 horror of the concluence of sin. Yeah, I know there's a temptation for 198 00:14:39.460 --> 00:14:45.299 us as human beings, especially we're in front of an abortion center, for 199 00:14:45.419 --> 00:14:46.980 example, right, and we're calling out to the women, we're warning them 200 00:14:48.059 --> 00:14:50.500 of the consequences of the sin of abortion. It's going to destroy your baby. 201 00:14:50.580 --> 00:14:52.490 This is something you, in a group, regret for the rest of 202 00:14:52.570 --> 00:14:58.250 your life. And then an hour later an ambulance pulls in and it's very 203 00:14:58.289 --> 00:15:01.409 tempting to say, I told you so, Yep, or is that woman's 204 00:15:01.409 --> 00:15:03.769 being taken out on the stretcher? I told you so, I warned you. 205 00:15:03.850 --> 00:15:07.360 Why didn't you listen to me? Right, to glow, to right, 206 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:09.720 to gloat the like. I was right. You are wrong, right, 207 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.240 that that's not the mentality that God wants to us to embrace, that 208 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:18.759 when it comes down to like exposing sin. Certainly sin gets exposed. Be 209 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.990 careful, your sin will find you out, but the motive of our heart 210 00:15:24.029 --> 00:15:26.269 needs to be checked, like when a woman. And so here's here's really, 211 00:15:26.350 --> 00:15:30.389 I think, in my mind and my heart, what I wanted to 212 00:15:30.470 --> 00:15:33.070 impart to those who are listening. Yeah, is when a woman is being 213 00:15:33.230 --> 00:15:37.980 brought out on the stretcher or, you know, ambulance shows up, whatever 214 00:15:37.019 --> 00:15:41.340 the center scenario might be, our first reactions should be one of grief. 215 00:15:41.379 --> 00:15:46.019 Right. I don't want her, I don't want her life to be destroyed. 216 00:15:46.940 --> 00:15:50.690 I don't want her to suffer the consequences of her sin necessarily. I 217 00:15:50.730 --> 00:15:54.730 don't want to wag the finger and say, I told you so. I'm 218 00:15:54.490 --> 00:15:58.970 I know better than her in the sins that in my sin, in my 219 00:16:00.129 --> 00:16:04.279 destructive sin I have. I have destroyed other people, I have affected other 220 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.879 people with decisions I've made and those decisions have affected me as well. Like 221 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:14.159 you know, we're all on that same you know, they say sinner saved 222 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:15.840 by grace. Right, I'm no better than her. Yeah, and so 223 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.629 I'm not putting myself against her, pit myself against her it. Look, 224 00:16:18.629 --> 00:16:22.190 I'm more righteous than you. Look what it happened to you and did what 225 00:16:22.309 --> 00:16:26.470 didn't happen to me? I want to be in to be grieve. I 226 00:16:26.549 --> 00:16:30.110 believe it grieves the heart of God. Yeah, I mean, have you 227 00:16:30.230 --> 00:16:33.500 seen women taking out of that place on a stretcher? Yes, seem even 228 00:16:33.779 --> 00:16:37.659 maybe not taken to the hospital and amulance whatever, but like walked out of 229 00:16:37.659 --> 00:16:42.580 the door by some of the socalled nurses, their camp walk they're being they're 230 00:16:42.620 --> 00:16:48.289 holding them up, and it right. It's horrifying and it doesn't it doesn't 231 00:16:48.289 --> 00:16:52.769 cause any joy in in any of our wonderful volunteers. We're all filled with 232 00:16:52.169 --> 00:16:59.370 sorrow and horror by that. And But, but gloating is you came up 233 00:16:59.450 --> 00:17:03.759 with a great a great verse that I think exemplifies that. It's proverbs twenty 234 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.359 four, seventeen to eighteen. I've got it here. Yeah, me to 235 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.920 read that one. Yeah, do not gloat when your enemy falls, when 236 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:17.670 they stumble. Do not let your heart rejoice, or the Lord will see 237 00:17:18.230 --> 00:17:23.150 and disapprove and turn his wrath away from them. They're having the the evidence 238 00:17:23.710 --> 00:17:29.309 of what they did, the consequence of it. They're living at yeah, 239 00:17:29.390 --> 00:17:33.339 and in the whatever. is terrible thing, as befallen them that they have 240 00:17:33.460 --> 00:17:37.859 to be taken away in a stretcher and that, hopefully, is going to 241 00:17:38.059 --> 00:17:44.529 convict their hearts of this is this is what happens when when we turn from 242 00:17:44.569 --> 00:17:48.890 God, when we rebel against him and do something terrible like like an abortion. 243 00:17:48.930 --> 00:17:52.809 Yeah, but we. We, on the other hand, are warned 244 00:17:52.930 --> 00:17:59.559 by God, don't use that as an opportunity to gloat or rejoice. Yeah, 245 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.519 yeah, and if you are and if you feel that rising up in 246 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:06.839 you, that kind of I told you so mentality. Yeah, you need 247 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:10.480 to check your heart. I need to check your motives. Right. Yes, 248 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:12.670 are they killing children inside of there? Yes, or those mothers involved 249 00:18:12.670 --> 00:18:18.829 in that? Yes, yeah, but do we delight whenever the consequence is 250 00:18:18.950 --> 00:18:22.069 like if someone is on death row, right, because they've committed a terrible 251 00:18:22.190 --> 00:18:26.140 crime and justice is going to be served and that person is going to be 252 00:18:26.220 --> 00:18:30.619 put in the electric chair or, yeah, lethal injection, whatever. Yeah, 253 00:18:30.859 --> 00:18:36.259 if you're like delighted to see the electric tear turned on in the electricity 254 00:18:36.339 --> 00:18:41.059 running through their body or the poison injected in their veins, if you delight 255 00:18:41.299 --> 00:18:44.970 in that, and there's a problem with you. Yeah, you've got issues. 256 00:18:45.289 --> 00:18:48.250 You've become as bad as the people that you're fighting against. Yeah, 257 00:18:48.329 --> 00:18:56.160 that's the if that's the mentality that is inside of you, and I think 258 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:03.319 I am prone to a little bit of gloating when a mom chooses life. 259 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:08.880 Yeah, and the pro abortion people become very crestfallen and sad because they've done 260 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.549 everything in their power to prevent that. Yeah, that's a little bit different, 261 00:19:12.589 --> 00:19:17.230 because there's been a positive outcome for both the mother and the baby. 262 00:19:17.230 --> 00:19:21.150 Yeah, but even that I have been warned. You know, Vicky, 263 00:19:21.589 --> 00:19:25.779 gloating is is not really what you should be doing. You should be rejoicing 264 00:19:26.220 --> 00:19:30.819 that it wass done. But but we are not glow. We should not 265 00:19:30.980 --> 00:19:36.539 be celebrating that, that we showed the enemy up or what. Yeah, 266 00:19:36.619 --> 00:19:38.849 whatever, that's not that's not quite the right motivation. No, it's not. 267 00:19:40.130 --> 00:19:41.609 I mean, ultimately our desires that we want people to come to the 268 00:19:41.730 --> 00:19:47.210 Lord. I don't want people to be, you know, defeated in any 269 00:19:47.289 --> 00:19:51.849 way. I don't want them to be downcast anyway. There's a balance there, 270 00:19:52.049 --> 00:19:53.759 though, and I don't want to get into all of that. Certainly 271 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:59.039 we should rejoice when justice is served. We should write. Yeah, and 272 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:03.440 so you know, there's a sense in which, yes, if a serial 273 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.589 murderer has been put to death, like, we should rejoice that justice have 274 00:20:07.670 --> 00:20:10.990 been served. Well, that's that's a subject from their podcast in the death 275 00:20:11.029 --> 00:20:14.230 penalty. Yeah, conversation. We haven't gotten up at fall all the time, 276 00:20:14.390 --> 00:20:15.950 though. At the abortion center we should tackle that one day, definitely 277 00:20:15.990 --> 00:20:18.269 needle. I think I kind of the cat out the bag of what my 278 00:20:18.349 --> 00:20:22.940 stances on that although, however, I will say, not to have to 279 00:20:22.019 --> 00:20:26.980 go off too far on a tangent, I'm not terribly comfortable with the death 280 00:20:26.019 --> 00:20:30.099 penalty in the United States of America because our justice system is not what it 281 00:20:30.180 --> 00:20:33.460 needs to be. But we will have that conversation another day. Let's continue 282 00:20:33.500 --> 00:20:40.329 on this conversation. We're not going to rejoice when someone who has done evil 283 00:20:40.769 --> 00:20:45.529 has read the consequences of their evil, because we have to be honest, 284 00:20:45.569 --> 00:20:48.769 we ourselves to have done evil and God, in His mercy, gave us 285 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.000 mercy, he gave us grace. Right, right, and that's what we 286 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:56.559 hope for others. Yeah, so here's a proverb, so you wonder, 287 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:02.519 is that established biblically as what? Shouldn't we rejoice and righteousness? And should 288 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:06.630 we rejoice and justice? We should. Yeah, but should we rejoice when 289 00:21:06.630 --> 00:21:11.269 our enemy falls, when the wicked suffer the consequences of their sin? Yeah, 290 00:21:11.309 --> 00:21:17.309 here's what the Bible says, proverbs seventeen five. Whoever mocks the poor 291 00:21:17.509 --> 00:21:22.140 shows contempt for their maker, whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished. 292 00:21:22.220 --> 00:21:26.019 Yeah, gloat over disaster. Right, you'll be punished her for doing that. 293 00:21:26.339 --> 00:21:30.420 Yeah, which is even though the you know, it may be that 294 00:21:30.539 --> 00:21:34.049 the wicked are getting what they deserve, but we are still not to gloat 295 00:21:34.569 --> 00:21:41.289 over the disaster that ensues. Yeah, yeah, another proverb, proverbs seventeen. 296 00:21:41.289 --> 00:21:42.529 Yeah, I read that one. I did read that one. You've 297 00:21:42.569 --> 00:21:45.130 already read that? Yes, already read that one where you asleep for that 298 00:21:45.250 --> 00:21:49.680 time of I won't load over that day, over the well, it's read 299 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:52.000 it again. Okay, it's a good one. Yeah, do not gloat 300 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.640 when your enemy falls, when they stumble. Do not let your heart rejoice, 301 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.680 or the Lord will see and disapprove and turn his wrath away from them. 302 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.349 Yeah, so God's going to have a wrath on them. Is Ultimately, 303 00:22:03.390 --> 00:22:10.670 what it's saying is we need to leave that hope justice and justice being 304 00:22:10.710 --> 00:22:15.819 carried out and reaping and sewing and people again reaping the consequences of their sin. 305 00:22:15.059 --> 00:22:18.740 Would you believe that in God's hand? Yeah, yeah, all of 306 00:22:18.859 --> 00:22:22.019 that is in the Lord's hands. He sorts through all of that stuff, 307 00:22:22.539 --> 00:22:26.619 not us. Our position should be one of mercy, one of kindness, 308 00:22:26.099 --> 00:22:30.490 one of Gray's one of understanding that, if not for the grace of God, 309 00:22:30.609 --> 00:22:33.930 we would be in that same situation right. Yeah, and that's a 310 00:22:33.009 --> 00:22:37.250 good principle in general to trust that God's going to take care of this. 311 00:22:37.529 --> 00:22:42.049 He's his wrath, his judgment to the consequences. They are not up to 312 00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:48.640 us. They are all up to God in that person. And and we 313 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:52.000 know he's a just God and we know that he loves them and that the 314 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:59.670 purpose sometimes of suffering, not always, but sometimes the purpose is to teach 315 00:22:59.789 --> 00:23:03.549 and to guide. Yeah, and did that might very well be what's happening 316 00:23:03.630 --> 00:23:07.309 as that woman's being taken away. Yeah, and ambulance. That that God 317 00:23:07.430 --> 00:23:12.779 is using this as an opportunity to teach and guide. Or maybe not for 318 00:23:12.940 --> 00:23:19.740 that, maybe that she abhorded, but maybe for her ultimate salvation, her 319 00:23:19.740 --> 00:23:26.259 ultimate turning to God and for future children through that experience. Yeah. So 320 00:23:26.420 --> 00:23:32.450 it can be a really valuable moment and experience for them. And and that's 321 00:23:32.529 --> 00:23:37.529 biblical God, God definitely uses throughout the Bible. We hear about people who 322 00:23:37.250 --> 00:23:44.279 are in terrible suffering circumstances and God does say with some of them, this 323 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.880 is due to your sin. Yeah, now go and send no more less 324 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:51.319 something worse will happen to you. I think that was the story that I 325 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:56.990 told in the article that were we're going to be putting out about the the 326 00:23:56.549 --> 00:24:03.589 man by the sheep gate. Yeah, who, who was blind. Well, 327 00:24:03.750 --> 00:24:07.109 I don't know if he was blind paralized, but he was John Chipped 328 00:24:07.230 --> 00:24:11.819 Five. Yeah, yeah, and he had been there an invalid for thirty 329 00:24:11.900 --> 00:24:14.539 eight years. And and the way, when, when, I remember, 330 00:24:14.579 --> 00:24:18.740 when I first read that, I just felt sorry for him. Yeah, 331 00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:22.460 and and thought this poor man, and it never occurred to me that any 332 00:24:22.539 --> 00:24:29.289 of this was through his own sin or his own fault. But later on, 333 00:24:29.609 --> 00:24:33.529 Jesus, Jesus, heals him. Yeah, tells, tells him, 334 00:24:34.490 --> 00:24:37.920 do you want to get well? So he asks him first you want to 335 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:42.079 be healed? The man's gives all these excuses for why he cannot be. 336 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.599 He doesn't really directly answer the question yes or no. He says why he 337 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:51.920 can't be healed, and then Jesus gives him the command to get up, 338 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:56.589 pick up your mat and walk. The man's instantly cured. But it's later 339 00:24:56.710 --> 00:25:00.390 that Jesus sees him at the Temple and says, see you are well again. 340 00:25:00.950 --> 00:25:06.190 Stop Sinning, or something worse may happen to you. Yeah. Now, 341 00:25:06.190 --> 00:25:10.140 I could be interpreting it wrong, but to me it sounds like that 342 00:25:10.220 --> 00:25:15.900 at least some of whatever suffering he was going through, maybe all, maybe 343 00:25:15.019 --> 00:25:21.809 just part of his illnesses, was due to sin, because Jesus said, 344 00:25:21.809 --> 00:25:26.890 stop sinning or something worse will happen to you. Yeah, but certainly could 345 00:25:26.890 --> 00:25:32.490 be interpreted that way. I don't know that that's the correct interpretation of it. 346 00:25:32.650 --> 00:25:34.720 I think the warning is, though, that your sin can lead to 347 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:40.359 terrible things. So right, whether or not that's connected to his earlier state, 348 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:42.880 that he was invalid or whatever. Yeah, he was paralyzed, whether 349 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:45.759 it was because of his sin or not, the warning still is that sin 350 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:51.029 can lead to things worse, yeah, than being paralyzed. Right, yeah, 351 00:25:51.029 --> 00:25:53.910 it'simately to hell. Yeah. So you later on in I believe it's 352 00:25:53.910 --> 00:25:59.029 John Chapter Nine, were Jesus there's a man who was born blind in the 353 00:25:59.109 --> 00:26:02.910 disciples. Ask Lord it was it because of his sinners parents, and Jesus 354 00:26:02.910 --> 00:26:04.859 said, basically neither one of those. It's for the glory of God and 355 00:26:04.940 --> 00:26:10.420 ultimate he heals a man. Right. So it's not always that the things 356 00:26:10.420 --> 00:26:14.460 that you suffer are directly connected with sin, but it is always that there 357 00:26:14.539 --> 00:26:17.940 is a consequence for sin. That's be careful, your sin will find you 358 00:26:18.019 --> 00:26:21.009 out. That's right. And again it's the motive of our heart. What 359 00:26:21.329 --> 00:26:25.890 is our motive when we're seeing the consequences and we even laying out I think 360 00:26:25.930 --> 00:26:30.809 there's a sense in which you could say I told you so to someone who's 361 00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:33.920 suffering the consequences of sin. You don't say it like that, I don't 362 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.960 think, but you help them make the connection. And don't you see that 363 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.960 God in his word, clearly warns against, you know, whatever it might 364 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:47.390 be, sex outside of marriage, and how the consequences can be unplanned pregnancy 365 00:26:47.430 --> 00:26:52.829 and ununput unwanted pregnancy, and you can make that connection. The consequences can 366 00:26:52.990 --> 00:26:56.750 be of doing drugs, can be that. It runs your mind, it 367 00:26:56.829 --> 00:27:00.869 runs your body. Right. Yeah, and it's not like you know, 368 00:27:00.029 --> 00:27:03.740 I told you so in a prideful sense, but it's like look what, 369 00:27:03.099 --> 00:27:07.779 look what God warned you of. Yeah, and you can, I could 370 00:27:07.779 --> 00:27:11.140 say even with a woman who's in this state, who's ended ambulance, who's 371 00:27:11.140 --> 00:27:14.019 in the hospital, who has some kind of negative effect from her abortion, 372 00:27:14.420 --> 00:27:17.210 you don't need to necessarily say I told you so, but you can't make 373 00:27:17.289 --> 00:27:21.650 the connection and see, God warns against the consequences of Sin. Yeah, 374 00:27:21.690 --> 00:27:25.289 and you're not right now suffering some of those consequences that he warned you against. 375 00:27:25.450 --> 00:27:29.049 Right, but you still have breath in your lungs, and so God 376 00:27:29.250 --> 00:27:32.960 still he's not done with you. Don't you see? Now is the time 377 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.640 to a pen and put your trust in him. Yeah, and I think 378 00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:38.839 you can say that and I think you can communicate that to even when an 379 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.400 ambulance shows about the abortion center, any of these scenarios were a woman. 380 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.589 I mean that's that's basically what we're getting at. When a woman is negatively 381 00:27:45.630 --> 00:27:51.710 affected by an abortion and it happens right there in front of you, there 382 00:27:51.869 --> 00:27:53.789 is a way to communicate to them. Don't you see that? Now you're 383 00:27:53.789 --> 00:27:56.910 at the end of yourself and you need God. And really, is it 384 00:27:57.029 --> 00:28:02.180 not that when we're at the end of the ourselves that don't we realize that 385 00:28:02.339 --> 00:28:04.140 that's when we really need the Lord, that we really can't do this stuff 386 00:28:04.180 --> 00:28:07.700 ourselves? That's right, and so you are able to speak kind of that 387 00:28:07.900 --> 00:28:11.930 hard truth about look at where your sin has brought you, because you ended 388 00:28:11.970 --> 00:28:18.529 it with but there is a beautiful opportunity for you right now to turn your 389 00:28:18.569 --> 00:28:22.210 life around and turn your life over to the Lord. Yeah, and so 390 00:28:22.450 --> 00:28:26.250 you can. You're going all the way through the Gospel. Kind of you 391 00:28:26.410 --> 00:28:30.359 seen what is happening to them right there in bringing it to the beautiful conclusion 392 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:37.480 of repentance and ultimately salvation. Yeah. Yeah, so now I do know 393 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.670 that, as we're seeing this happen in front of us again, ambulance coming 394 00:28:42.269 --> 00:28:47.309 or, like I've mentioned before, we've seen women that have been taken out 395 00:28:47.390 --> 00:28:49.750 by the nurses and walk to their car with their staggering through the car. 396 00:28:49.869 --> 00:28:55.710 You know, they just had a surgical abortion. They've obviously been terribly affected 397 00:28:55.740 --> 00:28:57.579 by it. Wasn't just can't ambulate themselves, which, by the way, 398 00:28:57.740 --> 00:29:03.140 I thought that was a legal all that you have to be able to leave 399 00:29:03.660 --> 00:29:07.740 in your on your own power. Yeah, or they're not supposed to discharge 400 00:29:07.779 --> 00:29:10.170 you. Yeah, I thought that was the case. I could be wrong 401 00:29:10.170 --> 00:29:12.569 about that, but people listening may want to look that up in their own 402 00:29:12.690 --> 00:29:18.690 community. Yeah, I mean maybe there's different laws. I know from what 403 00:29:18.769 --> 00:29:22.730 I understand here locally, as long as someone can drive them away, they're 404 00:29:22.769 --> 00:29:26.000 okay, okay to leave in that state, but yeah, maybe dig a 405 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.839 little deeper in that, but in either those scenarios they've been taken away on 406 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.640 ambulance or they've obviously been negatively affected by the abortion. Are they've not been 407 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:41.349 outwardly negatively affected by the abortion. They're just driving out again, the ambulance 408 00:29:41.509 --> 00:29:45.309 is driving out. What are the things that I try to train our volunteers 409 00:29:45.470 --> 00:29:51.109 and people that are doing sidewalk ministry to do? Is, when that ambulance 410 00:29:51.150 --> 00:29:55.339 is driving away, what do we want that person to see? Maybe that 411 00:29:56.220 --> 00:29:59.740 woman is able to see out the window, or maybe the person that's riding 412 00:29:59.740 --> 00:30:02.940 with them, the boyfriend or their mom or whoever is in the ambulance. 413 00:30:03.059 --> 00:30:07.089 When they're looking out, they're expecting to see someone on that sidewalk looking at 414 00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:11.089 them, wagging the finger and saying I told you so. When they're driving 415 00:30:11.130 --> 00:30:15.609 out after having had the abortion, and there again they're not negatively affected, 416 00:30:15.690 --> 00:30:19.410 so called, physically or whatever, by the abortion, but they're driving out, 417 00:30:19.410 --> 00:30:23.039 they look in their rear view mirror, they're expecting to see someone wagging 418 00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.480 the finger, yelling at them, look what you did, I want and 419 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:33.559 you calling them names, calling the names whatever. What I want them to 420 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.190 see, though, and I think this is from the Lord, and you 421 00:30:36.269 --> 00:30:38.029 guys that are listening, you can bring this before the Lord if you if 422 00:30:38.069 --> 00:30:41.710 you want, if you disagree with me, bring it before the Lord and 423 00:30:42.509 --> 00:30:47.069 see what he says in his word. When they look in that rear view 424 00:30:47.109 --> 00:30:51.099 mirror, what I want them to see is I want them to see us 425 00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:55.819 with our heads down, Yep, praying for them. Even put my hand 426 00:30:55.859 --> 00:30:59.099 up, I'm praying. You know, as Pentecostals, like to lay hands 427 00:30:59.140 --> 00:31:02.299 on stuff and, you know, pray and lift our hands and all that 428 00:31:02.420 --> 00:31:03.890 stuff. I want them to see that. I want them to see a 429 00:31:04.410 --> 00:31:11.049 posture of grief, of humility, of prayer, of intercession for them. 430 00:31:11.210 --> 00:31:15.769 I want them to see that someone cares about them, even that person that 431 00:31:15.849 --> 00:31:18.519 they thought was going to be wagging the finger. That person is praying for 432 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.920 them. Right. I think that's really what they should see in their review 433 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.440 mirror. I agree. That's such a powerful thing for them to see. 434 00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.640 And and you're showing the love and the Care Jesus. Yeah, that moment. 435 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.509 Yeah, and it takes us really biting our pride. Yeah, and 436 00:31:33.670 --> 00:31:37.589 US saying, yes, they suffered the consequences of their sin. Yeah, 437 00:31:37.630 --> 00:31:41.869 and they're going to likely suffer the consequences of their sin. But God, 438 00:31:41.109 --> 00:31:44.630 please have mercy, and that's what I'm praying. I'm not just pretending like 439 00:31:44.710 --> 00:31:47.220 I'm praying so they see something, and I'm not trying to put on a 440 00:31:47.339 --> 00:31:49.700 show, but I do want them to see me in that Review Mirror. 441 00:31:49.700 --> 00:31:52.180 And what am I praying? This is what I'm praying, Lord Jesus. 442 00:31:52.220 --> 00:31:56.259 I pray that you show that woman that you're a god of mercy, that 443 00:31:56.420 --> 00:31:57.619 she can turn to you, that if she turns you, you'll save and 444 00:31:57.660 --> 00:32:00.569 you'll rescue your in spite of her sin, you still love her and you 445 00:32:00.569 --> 00:32:04.690 would still have mercy on her. So I'm praying a prayer of mercy, 446 00:32:05.009 --> 00:32:08.250 intercession. God, draw that woman to your to yourself. I'm praying also 447 00:32:08.250 --> 00:32:12.609 a conviction. I pray that she would see that she took the life of 448 00:32:12.690 --> 00:32:15.410 her child. I pray that she would feel the conviction of the Holy Spirit 449 00:32:15.609 --> 00:32:19.480 and see, Lord Jesus, that you're the only way that her sins can 450 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.720 be washed away. That's what I'm praying right and I'm interceding for that woman 451 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.200 right and I believe God's using that. Yeah, and I agree. And 452 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.640 not, and I think you've said this but just to say again, not 453 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.549 only when they're leaving in an ambulance, but every time, yeah, a 454 00:32:32.630 --> 00:32:37.269 woman is leaving and we know she's had the abortion. Yeah, that that 455 00:32:37.509 --> 00:32:44.150 they should see us in merciful prayer, yeah, for them, and attitude 456 00:32:44.150 --> 00:32:49.299 any way of prayer. Yeah, and just to end this thing out and 457 00:32:49.859 --> 00:32:52.940 shift gears just a little bit with a few practical things that I don't think 458 00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:55.740 you have in the article. Maybe you end up adding this. Okay article, 459 00:32:55.859 --> 00:33:01.089 but in the vein of again not being a creeper, not being a 460 00:33:01.210 --> 00:33:05.650 Weirdo, I think there is some helpful things you can do, though. 461 00:33:05.769 --> 00:33:08.730 If you see an ambulance at the abortion center, there's a way that you 462 00:33:08.890 --> 00:33:14.599 can get the records of why that ambulance showed it showed up. It's not 463 00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.920 in every state and every municipality can be a little different, but you can 464 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.920 call and you can ask for the information. They are a public records. 465 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:27.430 The freedom of Information Act basically allows for you to be able to get this 466 00:33:27.710 --> 00:33:31.470 information that's public so that the public can be aware of the things that are 467 00:33:31.509 --> 00:33:35.829 going on. So if you do get the information, they're going to have 468 00:33:36.069 --> 00:33:39.910 didacted, the woman's name likely, and some of the information that might identify 469 00:33:39.950 --> 00:33:42.859 who she is. And again that's not what we want to know. You 470 00:33:42.980 --> 00:33:45.099 know, and I wouldn't put that out either. If you did find anything 471 00:33:45.140 --> 00:33:50.140 out, I wouldn't use that name, but definitely using what happened and knowing 472 00:33:50.220 --> 00:33:52.299 if it was a boxed abortion in any way. Right, and the motive 473 00:33:52.339 --> 00:33:55.130 behind that. Again, it's not to go against that woman, right, 474 00:33:55.130 --> 00:33:58.450 right. We want her to come to know the Lord, right, but 475 00:33:58.569 --> 00:34:01.049 it's really to expose. Was that Efesians, Chapter Five, verse eleven, 476 00:34:01.210 --> 00:34:06.369 have no fellowship within froof of workshop darkness, but rather expose them. We 477 00:34:06.490 --> 00:34:09.199 want to expose these abortion clinics, who want to expose what they're doing. 478 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:14.840 They pretend to be women's health care facilities and yet they're butchering women behind the 479 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.360 scenes. I mean, look what happened in the current gods nail thing, 480 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:22.039 right, and how that finally got exposed. But what if someone would have 481 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.469 earlier exposing which actually, if you listen to them, there's a there's a 482 00:34:24.550 --> 00:34:29.150 documentary that is called Gus. Now it's actually not a documentary, actually a 483 00:34:29.230 --> 00:34:32.590 movie. But then there's documentaries that kind of show that whole current Guznell thing 484 00:34:32.670 --> 00:34:37.510 that took place there were people that actually try to expose this and there's a 485 00:34:37.550 --> 00:34:40.099 lot of cover up and all that stuff, but we've got to do what 486 00:34:40.219 --> 00:34:45.980 we can to expose these abortion centers for really what they are, especially because 487 00:34:45.059 --> 00:34:52.579 there's such a powerful lobby behind mind those, the abortion industry, and we 488 00:34:52.289 --> 00:34:58.929 are probably not as powerful or have as much money. So whenever we do 489 00:34:59.210 --> 00:35:04.730 have information that can be a chink in their armor of lies, then we 490 00:35:04.849 --> 00:35:09.239 should we should definitely give that information, yeah, to the public. Yeah. 491 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:13.440 Are there any other helpful suggestions? You said there were. There were. 492 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.920 Now, that was basically it, you know, digging into public records 493 00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:22.110 if you can. Yeah, to expose these places. Okay, even on 494 00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:24.989 the sidewalk, having a sheet of paper. We have what we call it. 495 00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:29.389 It's call our bullet pointed sheet, right, yeah, about the abortion 496 00:35:29.510 --> 00:35:31.110 center. So we have these kind of bullet point of these situations where we 497 00:35:31.150 --> 00:35:36.900 know they've boughted abortions and the track record of the abortionist. We have that 498 00:35:37.059 --> 00:35:40.059 so we can show these moms and they can look these things up. You 499 00:35:40.099 --> 00:35:44.179 can find these things in a google search, the different times that they've had 500 00:35:44.260 --> 00:35:47.420 citations on their medical record. Far As the abortion center check my clinic dot 501 00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:52.369 org gives some website that will also point out some of the infractions of health 502 00:35:52.449 --> 00:35:57.849 centers. Yeah, absolutely, so, yeah, checking them out, getting 503 00:35:57.849 --> 00:36:01.849 information about those infractions and having that as something you can show the MOMS. 504 00:36:01.929 --> 00:36:05.639 It's not the first thing I'm going to talk to them about. Really going 505 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.599 to use our three talking points. You know what God says, humanity of 506 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.119 the baby and resources that are available. But I'll also pull that out too, 507 00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.880 as a wild card. Do you know about this abortion clinic? You 508 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:17.590 know what they've been responsible for? Yeah, and that can turn away a 509 00:36:19.230 --> 00:36:22.630 mother from abortion as well. Yeah, it can. So hopefully this was 510 00:36:22.670 --> 00:36:24.389 a blessing you guys. It was kind of an off the cuff subject that 511 00:36:24.429 --> 00:36:28.949 we felt like we we would cover and be a blessing to you guys. 512 00:36:29.829 --> 00:36:32.900 Give us some feedback. Let us know, share this podcast with others. 513 00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:38.179 We would certainly love to get more listeners on board and reach out to us. 514 00:36:38.260 --> 00:36:40.659 We reach out to me, Daniel Love Life Dot Org, and reach 515 00:36:40.659 --> 00:36:45.139 hurt Vicki at Love Life Dot Org. If you have suggestions for future episodes, 516 00:36:45.179 --> 00:36:50.769 any comments or things like that about this episode or other episodes. Questions, 517 00:36:50.849 --> 00:36:53.130 we'd certainly love to answer your questions the best we can, but until 518 00:36:53.170 --> 00:37:01.760 next time, God bless, godless y'all. 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