What Do You Do When An Ambulance Shows Up At the Abortion Center?

0:00 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me, Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center pre life podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you in pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned, I felt show Passish, touch your heart. Use Me. Welcome back to the Gospel centered pro life podcasts. Appreciate you, guys, listening and, as always, would appreciate if you, guess, would share this podcast episode with your friends, with other people that you think would be encouraging equip by this podcast. And that's what this is all about. This is about encouraging equipping people who are doing ministry at abortion centers on the sidewalk, just sharing some of our experiences. Some of the things that have come across our radar, come come across our desk, things that we subjects that we think would be a blessing to talk through, maybe subjects that you wouldn't think so much about, especially if you're brand new to this ministry. But this kind of candom came across my radar the other day as we were in front of the abortion center right and an ambulance showed up, YEP, and if you're out track, yeah, and Aartrad if you're out there for any length of time. We know that these are not safe play. This is they're not good places. MM. And their various reasons why ambulance ambulances show up.

1:33 I mean ambulances show up at other medical facilities as well. So we can't always assume that it's a botched abortion, right, but it certainly could be that. So we're going to talk through what do you do when an ambulance shows up at the abortion center? What are some things to do, or are some things not to do maybe? And so let's talk through that. Yeah, yeah, I know. For me, you know, there's the horror of it showing up and you thinking it might indeed be a botched abortion, but there's the the desire on one hand also to use it, to use it to expose what happens at an abortion center, and there is a delicate balance between being using it like an ambulance chaser, right like, for your own purposes, and being sensitive that to the fact that this is a someone is hurt, right and in possibly in very bad circumstances, in danger, certainly so. I think it is important to talk about what we should do, what should be our immediate responses, and and one of the first things that we always do is we have our camera ready. Yeah, we want to record the fact that it was there, because you will hear the lie over and over again abortion is safe and the women are not harmed in an abortion shit. Yeah, and when you can take a photograph of an ambulance in front of an abortion center, that instantly shed some doubt about that

3:05 being true. Yeah, absolutely, and I've been out there, you know, for about the fast past fifteen years or so and from what I have seen and recall I've seen, ambulance has come there about twelve, maybe thirteen different times. Yeah, and some that one of those situations I know in particular, Oh, at least one that I can remember right on the top of my head. I know for a fact what's abouts abortion situation. Yeah, some of the other ones could have been, you know, within any medical facility, and I use medical facility loosely for this, for abortion centers. Of course, there can be situations that a woman's blood pressure drops or they pass out for some particular reason, or there's other reasons why it is we have to recognize that, right, and that's why I said when I started out, it's not always a botched abortion. Yeah, so to assume, to jump to the IT's easy to jump to the worst conclusion possible because we're dealing with a place at murders children for money. Okay, right, but we also want to make sure that we're being honest and what we're saying.

4:08 Right. So if it's not abouts abortion, we don't need to be, for example, on the microphone saying there's a botch abortion that just took place. You know, right, if we don't know that for sure. Right. So we need to be careful because we want to make sure that the in form maazing that we're giving as credible. Right. Yeah, yeah, but also do want to I'm trying to figure out how to phrase this, so I'll just come out out and say it. Right, we do want to use the fact that there was an ambulance there as fuel for convincing a mother not to go inside of that place. Right, exactly. Abortion is not safe, right. Right. And I do know that we have had pass counselors who were ere nurses and who told us that they would mop up the effects of the abortion that very same afternoon following an abortion, and they said that it is more common than we know. Ye, that there are dangers from abortion and that the ER people are the ones that are dealing with it. But I do want to say, when you've got your camera ready, there are some things not to do, and I think it is very important, yeah, in to be sure that we're not using this for our purposes without sensitivity to the mom the patient, and that is, don't photograph a picture of the mother. Yeah, and if you do, if you get a picture of the person where she is identifiable on the stretcher or whatever, blot it out, yeah, before you share it, right,

5:40 if you're going to share it, so that no one can identify her, because that that that is creepy, that we shouldn't do that. Yeah, them. So I do want to make that point, that it's fine to have the picture of the of the fire truck, the ambulance, them wheeling someone in an APP, but blot out any identifying features. And then there are, I guess, sometimes ways that we know it is in a botched abortion. Right, and I don't know how you knew in in the time that you knew it was, yea but I know we have found out after the fact, sometimes by reading reviews, and we and the looking at the dates for when someone wrote a review. Hey, so and so ended up in the ear. There was even one where someone had died. Yeah, and the the mother of that dead patient who had had an abortion, was writing a review and anger and the dates corresponded with when we did see an ambulance there. And another point that I think is important. I I have seen an ambulance probably at least four or five times. They're almost always in every case, I believe it's in the afternoon, early afternoon. Yeah, when they think that we are normally not there. Yeah, I rarely see them show up in the morning, which leads me to believe it's possible they're holding off calling the ambulance or the fire truck. Yeah, while they know

7:11 they're going to be witnessed. Yeah, I believe that's the case. Yeah, well, know, talking about how do you discern? Well, they're not. It's about's abortion, because that's one of the things I think we want to do again. We want to be want to be truthful. I'm not just you're not just using the fact that there's an ambulance there and just kind of run with it all. They killed a woman inside of there, you know, because that would be us just being dishonest and it would show that we're not credible in what we're saying in other things. Right. Yeah, one of the ways that I knew that the last time we saw an ambulance there, which is not been terribly long ago, is the fact that the ambulance didn't take anyone with them. Right. So I didn't assume that was about's abortion. Hey, I assumed it was likely a woman's blood pressure dropped and there are certain protocols. Believe it or not, abortion centers sometimes do follow medical protocols, even though, again, never am I don't accuse me of trying to paint these people in a good light, because they're not right, but because they're accountable in certain ways, they've got to do certain things. So if a woman her blood pressure drops blow a certain level, they've got to call an ambulance or they can get in trouble, they can lose our medical license or whatever. Yeah, so apparently in that situation that's what happened. I remember actually seeing a young lady kind of stagger out of there and she looked all flush, and you know that's probably what happened, or blood pressure or blood sugar dropped really low and they had to call an ambulance. However, they did wait until the afternoon and that woman had been in there for quite a while, so I'm going to guess they waited as long as they could. Yeah, and they found out we weren't leaving, so they went ahead and called the Ambul it's because they knew they had to.

8:43 So right, could be a situation like that. I'm making that a few assumptions in that and we can make kind of educated guesses on what's going on. But again, we don't want to just assume because there's an ambulance at the abortion center it's a boss abortion. However, if it is about's abortion, and we got some evidence to prove that, that that needs to be publicly shown, like people need to see. These are not safe places, right, these are not health care facilities. Women's lives are ruined and destroyed, just like babies lives are destroyed inside of that place, so are the lives of the women. So yeah, yeah, so we will post it on social media without any identifying features of a woman or anything, so that she could be identified, but we will post it because we want to raise awareness. Yeah, that abortion is not as safe as the socalled pro choice people would would suggest. Yeah, and so I do think that's an important use of of our photographs and of our presence there that we expose that.

9:52 But also you alluded to earlier, and I think this is probably the very most valuable thing that we can do if an ambulance shows up and it that is to use it as a teachable moment. Yeah, for the women who are still they are. I have seen women leave when they see an ambulance or a fire truck. They you know, they they already maybe are feeling some trepidation about whether what they're doing is it is good or not, and then to see that is kind of like the final Straw, Ye, that it has them leave. So we can use that for others who may be are feeling conflicted. Yeah, yeah, and again it's not necessarily hey, they just bought an abortion. They might botch your abortion. Could be the case, could not be the case. We can certainly say we know that they've bought abortions here in the past and that could possibly be what's going on inside of there. But one of the things I will say is that if you came here to hide the fact that you're pregnant and you end up in a stretcher like that person is, how are you going to explain to your family why you're here in the hospital? Right, right, be careful, your sin will find you out. Yeah, that's a warning that we need to emphasize, because the Bible certainly does, and it's a warning that is very biblically based and that that is just really critical. Is reminding them this is a sin and there are repercussions for sin and this could be the repercussion for you, yeah, as well as for whoever that person is on

11:26 the stretcher. Yeah. Also, you know, one of the things, like common theme that we see as we're talking to women going into the abortion center, if we ask them, did you pray and ask God for assign line, more often than not they say yes, I prayed and ask for a sign. And so I'll say you think maybe the fact that there's an ambulance here that's taking woman out of a stretcher at this place that might be assigned to you that you shouldn't do this, that this is not safe. Yes, this is not a safe place. Right. That's a really good point. If you look at the track record of abortion clinics, there's a website that we point people to. Is Not our website. I don't really know the people to run this website, but there's some usual information on there, abortion Docs dot org. They've basically got the track record of the abortionist and abortion clinics all across the nation. Some of it's uptodate, some of its older information, but if you look through that website, abortion docs dot org, and you see all of the things that these abortion clinics, these abortionists are associated with, these are not good people, these are not safe places. And then, of course, if you know some of the news of Plant parenthood and other places, think just recently university was called selling baby body parts and things like that, using these these aborted babies for research and abording children just for research purposes and things like that just just wicked evil stuff.

12:48 I think it does serve as a sign and it does show how wicked and dark and evil these places are. Right and we know that the doctors maybe are not quite of the highest caliber, just by the fact that we see all the time the socalled doctors. The abortion is being driven into the abortion center and they're hiding. Yeah, there, they lie down in the seat, they cover themselves with a blanket, the driver drives them around to the back of the abortion center and then they quickly race through with the with the you know, Hoodie up and masks and they race through the bushes in the back so that they can't be identified. So they can't be recognized.

13:31 And anyone who feels the need to hide from what they do tells you that maybe what they're doing is not something they are proud of. Yeah, absolutely so. So, yeah, well, something that I have heard people say is, well, it's not Christian to be taking pictures of an ambulance and of someone in their darkest moment. There, there they are, in their darkest moment in the in a medical emergency. So one of the things I thought about is as I was thinking through this, is would God do such a thing? Would he call attention to the damage of sin to others who are observing? Yeah, well, yes, he does. Cross is one of the most, you know, perfect examples of that. where he is, there is Jesus, bloodied, mangled, hanging on a cross because of our sin, and that is God could not be pointing to a more, you know, perfect picture, yeah, of the consequence of sin, the horror of the concluence of sin. Yeah, I know there's a temptation for us as human beings, especially we're in front of an abortion center, for example, right, and we're calling out to the women, we're warning them of the consequences of the sin of abortion. It's going to destroy your baby.

14:50 This is something you, in a group, regret for the rest of your life. And then an hour later an ambulance pulls in and it's very tempting to say, I told you so, Yep, or is that woman's being taken out on the stretcher? I told you so, I warned you. Why didn't you listen to me? Right, to glow, to right, to gloat the like. I was right. You are wrong, right, that that's not the mentality that God wants to us to embrace, that when it comes down to like exposing sin. Certainly sin gets exposed. Be careful, your sin will find you out, but the motive of our heart needs to be checked, like when a woman. And so here's here's really, I think, in my mind and my heart, what I wanted to impart to those who are listening. Yeah, is when a woman is being brought out on the stretcher or, you know, ambulance shows up, whatever the center scenario might be, our first reactions should be one of grief.

15:41 Right. I don't want her, I don't want her life to be destroyed. I don't want her to suffer the consequences of her sin necessarily. I don't want to wag the finger and say, I told you so. I'm I know better than her in the sins that in my sin, in my destructive sin I have. I have destroyed other people, I have affected other people with decisions I've made and those decisions have affected me as well. Like you know, we're all on that same you know, they say sinner saved by grace. Right, I'm no better than her. Yeah, and so I'm not putting myself against her, pit myself against her it. Look, I'm more righteous than you. Look what it happened to you and did what didn't happen to me? I want to be in to be grieve. I believe it grieves the heart of God. Yeah, I mean, have you seen women taking out of that place on a stretcher? Yes, seem even maybe not taken to the hospital and amulance whatever, but like walked out of the door by some of the socalled nurses, their camp walk they're being they're holding them up, and it right. It's horrifying and it doesn't it doesn't cause any joy in in any of our wonderful volunteers. We're all filled with sorrow and horror by that. And But, but gloating is you came up with a great a great verse that I think exemplifies that. It's proverbs twenty four, seventeen to eighteen. I've got it here. Yeah, me to read that one. Yeah, do not gloat when your enemy falls, when

17:11 they stumble. Do not let your heart rejoice, or the Lord will see and disapprove and turn his wrath away from them. They're having the the evidence of what they did, the consequence of it. They're living at yeah, and in the whatever. is terrible thing, as befallen them that they have to be taken away in a stretcher and that, hopefully, is going to convict their hearts of this is this is what happens when when we turn from God, when we rebel against him and do something terrible like like an abortion. Yeah, but we. We, on the other hand, are warned by God, don't use that as an opportunity to gloat or rejoice. Yeah, yeah, and if you are and if you feel that rising up in you, that kind of I told you so mentality. Yeah, you need to check your heart. I need to check your motives. Right. Yes, are they killing children inside of there? Yes, or those mothers involved in that? Yes, yeah, but do we delight whenever the consequence is like if someone is on death row, right, because they've committed a terrible crime and justice is going to be served and that person is going to be put in the electric chair or, yeah, lethal injection, whatever. Yeah, if you're like delighted to see the electric tear turned on in the electricity running through their body or the poison injected in their veins, if you delight in that, and there's a problem with you. Yeah, you've got issues.

18:45 You've become as bad as the people that you're fighting against. Yeah, that's the if that's the mentality that is inside of you, and I think I am prone to a little bit of gloating when a mom chooses life. Yeah, and the pro abortion people become very crestfallen and sad because they've done everything in their power to prevent that. Yeah, that's a little bit different, because there's been a positive outcome for both the mother and the baby. Yeah, but even that I have been warned. You know, Vicky, gloating is is not really what you should be doing. You should be rejoicing that it wass done. But but we are not glow. We should not be celebrating that, that we showed the enemy up or what. Yeah, whatever, that's not that's not quite the right motivation. No, it's not.

19:40 I mean, ultimately our desires that we want people to come to the Lord. I don't want people to be, you know, defeated in any way. I don't want them to be downcast anyway. There's a balance there, though, and I don't want to get into all of that. Certainly we should rejoice when justice is served. We should write. Yeah, and so you know, there's a sense in which, yes, if a serial murderer has been put to death, like, we should rejoice that justice have been served. Well, that's that's a subject from their podcast in the death penalty. Yeah, conversation. We haven't gotten up at fall all the time, though. At the abortion center we should tackle that one day, definitely needle. I think I kind of the cat out the bag of what my stances on that although, however, I will say, not to have to go off too far on a tangent, I'm not terribly comfortable with the death penalty in the United States of America because our justice system is not what it needs to be. But we will have that conversation another day. Let's continue on this conversation. We're not going to rejoice when someone who has done evil has read the consequences of their evil, because we have to be honest, we ourselves to have done evil and God, in His mercy, gave us mercy, he gave us grace. Right, right, and that's what we hope for others. Yeah, so here's a proverb, so you wonder, is that established biblically as what? Shouldn't we rejoice and righteousness? And should we rejoice and justice? We should. Yeah, but should we rejoice when our enemy falls, when the wicked suffer the consequences of their sin? Yeah,

21:11 here's what the Bible says, proverbs seventeen five. Whoever mocks the poor shows contempt for their maker, whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished. Yeah, gloat over disaster. Right, you'll be punished her for doing that. Yeah, which is even though the you know, it may be that the wicked are getting what they deserve, but we are still not to gloat over the disaster that ensues. Yeah, yeah, another proverb, proverbs seventeen. Yeah, I read that one. I did read that one. You've already read that? Yes, already read that one where you asleep for that time of I won't load over that day, over the well, it's read it again. Okay, it's a good one. Yeah, do not gloat when your enemy falls, when they stumble. Do not let your heart rejoice, or the Lord will see and disapprove and turn his wrath away from them.

22:00 Yeah, so God's going to have a wrath on them. Is Ultimately, what it's saying is we need to leave that hope justice and justice being carried out and reaping and sewing and people again reaping the consequences of their sin. Would you believe that in God's hand? Yeah, yeah, all of that is in the Lord's hands. He sorts through all of that stuff, not us. Our position should be one of mercy, one of kindness, one of Gray's one of understanding that, if not for the grace of God, we would be in that same situation right. Yeah, and that's a good principle in general to trust that God's going to take care of this. He's his wrath, his judgment to the consequences. They are not up to us. They are all up to God in that person. And and we know he's a just God and we know that he loves them and that the purpose sometimes of suffering, not always, but sometimes the purpose is to teach and to guide. Yeah, and did that might very well be what's happening as that woman's being taken away. Yeah, and ambulance. That that God is using this as an opportunity to teach and guide. Or maybe not for that, maybe that she abhorded, but maybe for her ultimate salvation, her ultimate turning to God and for future children through that experience. Yeah. So it can be a really valuable moment and experience for them. And and that's

23:32 biblical God, God definitely uses throughout the Bible. We hear about people who are in terrible suffering circumstances and God does say with some of them, this is due to your sin. Yeah, now go and send no more less something worse will happen to you. I think that was the story that I told in the article that were we're going to be putting out about the the man by the sheep gate. Yeah, who, who was blind. Well, I don't know if he was blind paralized, but he was John Chipped Five. Yeah, yeah, and he had been there an invalid for thirty eight years. And and the way, when, when, I remember, when I first read that, I just felt sorry for him. Yeah, and and thought this poor man, and it never occurred to me that any of this was through his own sin or his own fault. But later on, Jesus, Jesus, heals him. Yeah, tells, tells him, do you want to get well? So he asks him first you want to be healed? The man's gives all these excuses for why he cannot be.

24:42 He doesn't really directly answer the question yes or no. He says why he can't be healed, and then Jesus gives him the command to get up, pick up your mat and walk. The man's instantly cured. But it's later that Jesus sees him at the Temple and says, see you are well again. Stop Sinning, or something worse may happen to you. Yeah. Now, I could be interpreting it wrong, but to me it sounds like that at least some of whatever suffering he was going through, maybe all, maybe just part of his illnesses, was due to sin, because Jesus said, stop sinning or something worse will happen to you. Yeah, but certainly could be interpreted that way. I don't know that that's the correct interpretation of it.

25:32 I think the warning is, though, that your sin can lead to terrible things. So right, whether or not that's connected to his earlier state, that he was invalid or whatever. Yeah, he was paralyzed, whether it was because of his sin or not, the warning still is that sin can lead to things worse, yeah, than being paralyzed. Right, yeah, it'simately to hell. Yeah. So you later on in I believe it's John Chapter Nine, were Jesus there's a man who was born blind in the disciples. Ask Lord it was it because of his sinners parents, and Jesus said, basically neither one of those. It's for the glory of God and ultimate he heals a man. Right. So it's not always that the things that you suffer are directly connected with sin, but it is always that there is a consequence for sin. That's be careful, your sin will find you out. That's right. And again it's the motive of our heart. What is our motive when we're seeing the consequences and we even laying out I think there's a sense in which you could say I told you so to someone who's suffering the consequences of sin. You don't say it like that, I don't think, but you help them make the connection. And don't you see that God in his word, clearly warns against, you know, whatever it might be, sex outside of marriage, and how the consequences can be unplanned pregnancy and ununput unwanted pregnancy, and you can make that connection. The consequences can be of doing drugs, can be that. It runs your mind, it runs your body. Right. Yeah, and it's not like you know, I told you so in a prideful sense, but it's like look what,

27:03 look what God warned you of. Yeah, and you can, I could say even with a woman who's in this state, who's ended ambulance, who's in the hospital, who has some kind of negative effect from her abortion, you don't need to necessarily say I told you so, but you can't make the connection and see, God warns against the consequences of Sin. Yeah, and you're not right now suffering some of those consequences that he warned you against. Right, but you still have breath in your lungs, and so God still he's not done with you. Don't you see? Now is the time to a pen and put your trust in him. Yeah, and I think you can say that and I think you can communicate that to even when an ambulance shows about the abortion center, any of these scenarios were a woman. I mean that's that's basically what we're getting at. When a woman is negatively affected by an abortion and it happens right there in front of you, there is a way to communicate to them. Don't you see that? Now you're at the end of yourself and you need God. And really, is it not that when we're at the end of the ourselves that don't we realize that that's when we really need the Lord, that we really can't do this stuff ourselves? That's right, and so you are able to speak kind of that hard truth about look at where your sin has brought you, because you ended it with but there is a beautiful opportunity for you right now to turn your life around and turn your life over to the Lord. Yeah, and so you can. You're going all the way through the Gospel. Kind of you seen what is happening to them right there in bringing it to the beautiful conclusion of repentance and ultimately salvation. Yeah. Yeah, so now I do know

28:37 that, as we're seeing this happen in front of us again, ambulance coming or, like I've mentioned before, we've seen women that have been taken out by the nurses and walk to their car with their staggering through the car. You know, they just had a surgical abortion. They've obviously been terribly affected by it. Wasn't just can't ambulate themselves, which, by the way, I thought that was a legal all that you have to be able to leave in your on your own power. Yeah, or they're not supposed to discharge you. Yeah, I thought that was the case. I could be wrong about that, but people listening may want to look that up in their own community. Yeah, I mean maybe there's different laws. I know from what I understand here locally, as long as someone can drive them away, they're okay, okay to leave in that state, but yeah, maybe dig a little deeper in that, but in either those scenarios they've been taken away on ambulance or they've obviously been negatively affected by the abortion. Are they've not been outwardly negatively affected by the abortion. They're just driving out again, the ambulance is driving out. What are the things that I try to train our volunteers and people that are doing sidewalk ministry to do? Is, when that ambulance is driving away, what do we want that person to see? Maybe that woman is able to see out the window, or maybe the person that's riding with them, the boyfriend or their mom or whoever is in the ambulance.

30:03 When they're looking out, they're expecting to see someone on that sidewalk looking at them, wagging the finger and saying I told you so. When they're driving out after having had the abortion, and there again they're not negatively affected, so called, physically or whatever, by the abortion, but they're driving out, they look in their rear view mirror, they're expecting to see someone wagging the finger, yelling at them, look what you did, I want and you calling them names, calling the names whatever. What I want them to see, though, and I think this is from the Lord, and you guys that are listening, you can bring this before the Lord if you if you want, if you disagree with me, bring it before the Lord and see what he says in his word. When they look in that rear view mirror, what I want them to see is I want them to see us with our heads down, Yep, praying for them. Even put my hand up, I'm praying. You know, as Pentecostals, like to lay hands on stuff and, you know, pray and lift our hands and all that stuff. I want them to see that. I want them to see a posture of grief, of humility, of prayer, of intercession for them.

31:11 I want them to see that someone cares about them, even that person that they thought was going to be wagging the finger. That person is praying for them. Right. I think that's really what they should see in their review mirror. I agree. That's such a powerful thing for them to see. And and you're showing the love and the Care Jesus. Yeah, that moment. Yeah, and it takes us really biting our pride. Yeah, and US saying, yes, they suffered the consequences of their sin. Yeah, and they're going to likely suffer the consequences of their sin. But God, please have mercy, and that's what I'm praying. I'm not just pretending like I'm praying so they see something, and I'm not trying to put on a show, but I do want them to see me in that Review Mirror. And what am I praying? This is what I'm praying, Lord Jesus.

31:52 I pray that you show that woman that you're a god of mercy, that she can turn to you, that if she turns you, you'll save and you'll rescue your in spite of her sin, you still love her and you would still have mercy on her. So I'm praying a prayer of mercy, intercession. God, draw that woman to your to yourself. I'm praying also a conviction. I pray that she would see that she took the life of her child. I pray that she would feel the conviction of the Holy Spirit and see, Lord Jesus, that you're the only way that her sins can be washed away. That's what I'm praying right and I'm interceding for that woman right and I believe God's using that. Yeah, and I agree. And not, and I think you've said this but just to say again, not only when they're leaving in an ambulance, but every time, yeah, a woman is leaving and we know she's had the abortion. Yeah, that that they should see us in merciful prayer, yeah, for them, and attitude any way of prayer. Yeah, and just to end this thing out and shift gears just a little bit with a few practical things that I don't think you have in the article. Maybe you end up adding this. Okay article, but in the vein of again not being a creeper, not being a Weirdo, I think there is some helpful things you can do, though.

33:05 If you see an ambulance at the abortion center, there's a way that you can get the records of why that ambulance showed it showed up. It's not in every state and every municipality can be a little different, but you can call and you can ask for the information. They are a public records. The freedom of Information Act basically allows for you to be able to get this information that's public so that the public can be aware of the things that are going on. So if you do get the information, they're going to have didacted, the woman's name likely, and some of the information that might identify who she is. And again that's not what we want to know. You know, and I wouldn't put that out either. If you did find anything out, I wouldn't use that name, but definitely using what happened and knowing if it was a boxed abortion in any way. Right, and the motive behind that. Again, it's not to go against that woman, right, right. We want her to come to know the Lord, right, but it's really to expose. Was that Efesians, Chapter Five, verse eleven, have no fellowship within froof of workshop darkness, but rather expose them. We want to expose these abortion clinics, who want to expose what they're doing.

34:09 They pretend to be women's health care facilities and yet they're butchering women behind the scenes. I mean, look what happened in the current gods nail thing, right, and how that finally got exposed. But what if someone would have earlier exposing which actually, if you listen to them, there's a there's a documentary that is called Gus. Now it's actually not a documentary, actually a movie. But then there's documentaries that kind of show that whole current Guznell thing that took place there were people that actually try to expose this and there's a lot of cover up and all that stuff, but we've got to do what we can to expose these abortion centers for really what they are, especially because there's such a powerful lobby behind mind those, the abortion industry, and we are probably not as powerful or have as much money. So whenever we do have information that can be a chink in their armor of lies, then we should we should definitely give that information, yeah, to the public. Yeah.

35:09 Are there any other helpful suggestions? You said there were. There were. Now, that was basically it, you know, digging into public records if you can. Yeah, to expose these places. Okay, even on the sidewalk, having a sheet of paper. We have what we call it. It's call our bullet pointed sheet, right, yeah, about the abortion center. So we have these kind of bullet point of these situations where we know they've boughted abortions and the track record of the abortionist. We have that so we can show these moms and they can look these things up. You can find these things in a google search, the different times that they've had citations on their medical record. Far As the abortion center check my clinic dot org gives some website that will also point out some of the infractions of health centers. Yeah, absolutely, so, yeah, checking them out, getting information about those infractions and having that as something you can show the MOMS.

36:01 It's not the first thing I'm going to talk to them about. Really going to use our three talking points. You know what God says, humanity of the baby and resources that are available. But I'll also pull that out too, as a wild card. Do you know about this abortion clinic? You know what they've been responsible for? Yeah, and that can turn away a mother from abortion as well. Yeah, it can. So hopefully this was a blessing you guys. It was kind of an off the cuff subject that we felt like we we would cover and be a blessing to you guys. Give us some feedback. Let us know, share this podcast with others. We would certainly love to get more listeners on board and reach out to us. We reach out to me, Daniel Love Life Dot Org, and reach hurt Vicki at Love Life Dot Org. If you have suggestions for future episodes, any comments or things like that about this episode or other episodes. Questions, we'd certainly love to answer your questions the best we can, but until next time, God bless, godless y'all. Give our love for love.

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