What Do You Do When An Ambulance Shows Up At the Abortion Center?

WEBVTT100:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me,200:00:06.160 --> 00:00:11.789Lord, I am yours, Iam yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel300:00:11.830 --> 00:00:17.390Center pre life podcast, a podcastdesigned to equip, encourage and challenge you400:00:17.510 --> 00:00:21.660in pro life ministry and always werethe focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned,500:00:23.660 --> 00:00:35.340I felt show Passish, touch yourheart. Use Me. Welcome back600:00:35.420 --> 00:00:39.649to the Gospel centered pro life podcasts. Appreciate you, guys, listening and,700:00:40.130 --> 00:00:42.890as always, would appreciate if you, guess, would share this podcast800:00:42.929 --> 00:00:48.210episode with your friends, with otherpeople that you think would be encouraging equip900:00:48.329 --> 00:00:51.159by this podcast. And that's whatthis is all about. This is about1000:00:51.159 --> 00:00:56.560encouraging equipping people who are doing ministryat abortion centers on the sidewalk, just1100:00:56.679 --> 00:01:00.119sharing some of our experiences. Someof the things that have come across our1200:01:00.119 --> 00:01:03.430radar, come come across our desk, things that we subjects that we think1300:01:03.829 --> 00:01:07.790would be a blessing to talk through, maybe subjects that you wouldn't think so1400:01:07.870 --> 00:01:11.349much about, especially if you're brandnew to this ministry. But this kind1500:01:11.349 --> 00:01:15.430of candom came across my radar theother day as we were in front of1600:01:15.469 --> 00:01:19.739the abortion center right and an ambulanceshowed up, YEP, and if you're1700:01:19.780 --> 00:01:23.700out track, yeah, and Aartradif you're out there for any length of1800:01:23.780 --> 00:01:26.500time. We know that these arenot safe play. This is they're not1900:01:26.540 --> 00:01:33.250good places. MM. And theirvarious reasons why ambulance ambulances show up.2000:01:33.250 --> 00:01:36.890I mean ambulances show up at othermedical facilities as well. So we can't2100:01:36.890 --> 00:01:40.650always assume that it's a botched abortion, right, but it certainly could be2200:01:40.810 --> 00:01:45.329that. So we're going to talkthrough what do you do when an ambulance2300:01:45.370 --> 00:01:48.760shows up at the abortion center?What are some things to do, or2400:01:48.799 --> 00:01:53.400are some things not to do maybe? And so let's talk through that.2500:01:53.680 --> 00:01:57.879Yeah, yeah, I know.For me, you know, there's the2600:01:57.000 --> 00:02:01.989horror of it showing up and youthinking it might indeed be a botched abortion,2700:02:02.909 --> 00:02:07.870but there's the the desire on onehand also to use it, to2800:02:07.990 --> 00:02:14.830use it to expose what happens atan abortion center, and there is a2900:02:15.030 --> 00:02:20.580delicate balance between being using it likean ambulance chaser, right like, for3000:02:20.699 --> 00:02:24.099your own purposes, and being sensitivethat to the fact that this is a3100:02:24.580 --> 00:02:30.409someone is hurt, right and inpossibly in very bad circumstances, in danger,3200:02:30.889 --> 00:02:35.610certainly so. I think it isimportant to talk about what we should3300:02:35.610 --> 00:02:38.490do, what should be our immediateresponses, and and one of the first3400:02:38.490 --> 00:02:43.889things that we always do is wehave our camera ready. Yeah, we3500:02:44.009 --> 00:02:47.039want to record the fact that itwas there, because you will hear the3600:02:47.120 --> 00:02:53.319lie over and over again abortion issafe and the women are not harmed in3700:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.520an abortion shit. Yeah, andwhen you can take a photograph of an3800:02:57.560 --> 00:03:04.789ambulance in front of an abortion center, that instantly shed some doubt about that3900:03:05.030 --> 00:03:08.469being true. Yeah, absolutely,and I've been out there, you know,4000:03:08.590 --> 00:03:13.819for about the fast past fifteen yearsor so and from what I have4100:03:14.060 --> 00:03:19.939seen and recall I've seen, ambulancehas come there about twelve, maybe thirteen4200:03:20.020 --> 00:03:23.460different times. Yeah, and somethat one of those situations I know in4300:03:23.539 --> 00:03:27.889particular, Oh, at least onethat I can remember right on the top4400:03:27.930 --> 00:03:31.210of my head. I know fora fact what's abouts abortion situation. Yeah,4500:03:31.569 --> 00:03:35.689some of the other ones could havebeen, you know, within any4600:03:35.770 --> 00:03:39.650medical facility, and I use medicalfacility loosely for this, for abortion centers.4700:03:39.689 --> 00:03:46.319Of course, there can be situationsthat a woman's blood pressure drops or4800:03:46.479 --> 00:03:51.319they pass out for some particular reason, or there's other reasons why it is4900:03:51.319 --> 00:03:53.039we have to recognize that, right, and that's why I said when I5000:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.550started out, it's not always abotched abortion. Yeah, so to assume,5100:03:57.710 --> 00:04:01.310to jump to the IT's easy tojump to the worst conclusion possible because5200:04:01.310 --> 00:04:04.189we're dealing with a place at murderschildren for money. Okay, right,5300:04:04.310 --> 00:04:08.229but we also want to make surethat we're being honest and what we're saying.5400:04:08.349 --> 00:04:11.300Right. So if it's not aboutsabortion, we don't need to be,5500:04:11.539 --> 00:04:15.099for example, on the microphone sayingthere's a botch abortion that just took5600:04:15.099 --> 00:04:16.060place. You know, right,if we don't know that for sure.5700:04:16.100 --> 00:04:18.459Right. So we need to becareful because we want to make sure that5800:04:19.220 --> 00:04:24.569the in form maazing that we're givingas credible. Right. Yeah, yeah,5900:04:25.009 --> 00:04:29.649but also do want to I'm tryingto figure out how to phrase this,6000:04:30.490 --> 00:04:32.889so I'll just come out out andsay it. Right, we do6100:04:33.089 --> 00:04:40.920want to use the fact that therewas an ambulance there as fuel for convincing6200:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.800a mother not to go inside ofthat place. Right, exactly. Abortion6300:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.720is not safe, right. Right. And I do know that we have6400:04:46.839 --> 00:04:51.800had pass counselors who were ere nursesand who told us that they would mop6500:04:51.800 --> 00:05:00.589up the effects of the abortion thatvery same afternoon following an abortion, and6600:05:02.550 --> 00:05:08.180they said that it is more commonthan we know. Ye, that there6700:05:08.180 --> 00:05:12.420are dangers from abortion and that theER people are the ones that are dealing6800:05:12.500 --> 00:05:15.220with it. But I do wantto say, when you've got your camera6900:05:15.339 --> 00:05:17.100ready, there are some things notto do, and I think it is7000:05:17.300 --> 00:05:21.730very important, yeah, in tobe sure that we're not using this for7100:05:21.889 --> 00:05:28.689our purposes without sensitivity to the momthe patient, and that is, don't7200:05:28.810 --> 00:05:30.889photograph a picture of the mother.Yeah, and if you do, if7300:05:30.970 --> 00:05:36.240you get a picture of the personwhere she is identifiable on the stretcher or7400:05:36.319 --> 00:05:40.839whatever, blot it out, yeah, before you share it, right,7500:05:40.879 --> 00:05:43.879if you're going to share it,so that no one can identify her,7600:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.480because that that that is creepy,that we shouldn't do that. Yeah,7700:05:47.079 --> 00:05:51.870them. So I do want tomake that point, that it's fine to7800:05:51.949 --> 00:05:56.430have the picture of the of thefire truck, the ambulance, them wheeling7900:05:56.550 --> 00:06:00.910someone in an APP, but blotout any identifying features. And then there8000:06:00.949 --> 00:06:04.100are, I guess, sometimes waysthat we know it is in a botched8100:06:04.100 --> 00:06:09.180abortion. Right, and I don'tknow how you knew in in the time8200:06:09.420 --> 00:06:14.660that you knew it was, yeabut I know we have found out after8300:06:14.779 --> 00:06:19.410the fact, sometimes by reading reviews, and we and the looking at the8400:06:19.449 --> 00:06:24.089dates for when someone wrote a review. Hey, so and so ended up8500:06:24.129 --> 00:06:27.970in the ear. There was evenone where someone had died. Yeah,8600:06:28.050 --> 00:06:32.560and the the mother of that deadpatient who had had an abortion, was8700:06:32.720 --> 00:06:39.319writing a review and anger and thedates corresponded with when we did see an8800:06:39.360 --> 00:06:44.360ambulance there. And another point thatI think is important. I I have8900:06:44.480 --> 00:06:48.430seen an ambulance probably at least fouror five times. They're almost always in9000:06:48.629 --> 00:06:54.629every case, I believe it's inthe afternoon, early afternoon. Yeah,9100:06:54.750 --> 00:07:00.230when they think that we are normallynot there. Yeah, I rarely see9200:07:00.269 --> 00:07:05.420them show up in the morning,which leads me to believe it's possible they're9300:07:05.459 --> 00:07:11.420holding off calling the ambulance or thefire truck. Yeah, while they know9400:07:11.500 --> 00:07:14.660they're going to be witnessed. Yeah, I believe that's the case. Yeah,9500:07:14.819 --> 00:07:17.529well, know, talking about howdo you discern? Well, they're9600:07:17.529 --> 00:07:19.930not. It's about's abortion, becausethat's one of the things I think we9700:07:20.129 --> 00:07:24.410want to do again. We wantto be want to be truthful. I'm9800:07:24.490 --> 00:07:27.410not just you're not just using thefact that there's an ambulance there and just9900:07:27.449 --> 00:07:29.649kind of run with it all.They killed a woman inside of there,10000:07:29.769 --> 00:07:33.000you know, because that would beus just being dishonest and it would show10100:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.160that we're not credible in what we'resaying in other things. Right. Yeah,10200:07:36.600 --> 00:07:40.120one of the ways that I knewthat the last time we saw an10300:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.279ambulance there, which is not beenterribly long ago, is the fact that10400:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.350the ambulance didn't take anyone with them. Right. So I didn't assume that10500:07:46.470 --> 00:07:49.709was about's abortion. Hey, Iassumed it was likely a woman's blood pressure10600:07:49.750 --> 00:07:55.470dropped and there are certain protocols.Believe it or not, abortion centers sometimes10700:07:55.550 --> 00:08:01.500do follow medical protocols, even though, again, never am I don't accuse10800:08:01.579 --> 00:08:03.860me of trying to paint these peoplein a good light, because they're not10900:08:03.220 --> 00:08:07.860right, but because they're accountable incertain ways, they've got to do certain11000:08:07.899 --> 00:08:09.899things. So if a woman herblood pressure drops blow a certain level,11100:08:11.180 --> 00:08:13.490they've got to call an ambulance orthey can get in trouble, they can11200:08:13.569 --> 00:08:18.410lose our medical license or whatever.Yeah, so apparently in that situation that's11300:08:18.410 --> 00:08:20.850what happened. I remember actually seeinga young lady kind of stagger out of11400:08:20.889 --> 00:08:24.610there and she looked all flush,and you know that's probably what happened,11500:08:24.649 --> 00:08:30.000or blood pressure or blood sugar droppedreally low and they had to call an11600:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.919ambulance. However, they did waituntil the afternoon and that woman had been11700:08:33.960 --> 00:08:37.919in there for quite a while,so I'm going to guess they waited as11800:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.720long as they could. Yeah,and they found out we weren't leaving,11900:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.110so they went ahead and called theAmbul it's because they knew they had to.12000:08:43.269 --> 00:08:45.590So right, could be a situationlike that. I'm making that a12100:08:45.629 --> 00:08:50.389few assumptions in that and we canmake kind of educated guesses on what's going12200:08:50.549 --> 00:08:54.029on. But again, we don'twant to just assume because there's an ambulance12300:08:54.070 --> 00:08:58.419at the abortion center it's a bossabortion. However, if it is about's12400:08:58.460 --> 00:09:03.740abortion, and we got some evidenceto prove that, that that needs to12500:09:03.860 --> 00:09:09.779be publicly shown, like people needto see. These are not safe places,12600:09:09.049 --> 00:09:16.049right, these are not health carefacilities. Women's lives are ruined and12700:09:16.210 --> 00:09:20.450destroyed, just like babies lives aredestroyed inside of that place, so are12800:09:20.450 --> 00:09:22.610the lives of the women. Soyeah, yeah, so we will post12900:09:22.649 --> 00:09:28.080it on social media without any identifyingfeatures of a woman or anything, so13000:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.080that she could be identified, butwe will post it because we want to13100:09:31.159 --> 00:09:37.039raise awareness. Yeah, that abortionis not as safe as the socalled pro13200:09:37.120 --> 00:09:43.990choice people would would suggest. Yeah, and so I do think that's an13300:09:45.029 --> 00:09:50.149important use of of our photographs andof our presence there that we expose that.13400:09:52.629 --> 00:09:54.500But also you alluded to earlier,and I think this is probably the13500:09:54.659 --> 00:10:01.940very most valuable thing that we cando if an ambulance shows up and it13600:10:03.500 --> 00:10:07.889that is to use it as ateachable moment. Yeah, for the women13700:10:07.929 --> 00:10:11.649who are still they are. Ihave seen women leave when they see an13800:10:11.690 --> 00:10:16.690ambulance or a fire truck. Theyyou know, they they already maybe are13900:10:16.730 --> 00:10:20.960feeling some trepidation about whether what they'redoing is it is good or not,14000:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.200and then to see that is kindof like the final Straw, Ye,14100:10:26.279 --> 00:10:31.200that it has them leave. Sowe can use that for others who may14200:10:31.240 --> 00:10:35.269be are feeling conflicted. Yeah,yeah, and again it's not necessarily hey,14300:10:35.350 --> 00:10:39.429they just bought an abortion. Theymight botch your abortion. Could be14400:10:39.549 --> 00:10:43.549the case, could not be thecase. We can certainly say we know14500:10:43.669 --> 00:10:46.870that they've bought abortions here in thepast and that could possibly be what's going14600:10:46.909 --> 00:10:50.299on inside of there. But oneof the things I will say is that14700:10:50.779 --> 00:10:54.259if you came here to hide thefact that you're pregnant and you end up14800:10:54.259 --> 00:10:58.539in a stretcher like that person is, how are you going to explain to14900:10:58.580 --> 00:11:01.620your family why you're here in thehospital? Right, right, be careful,15000:11:01.779 --> 00:11:05.090your sin will find you out.Yeah, that's a warning that we15100:11:05.289 --> 00:11:09.330need to emphasize, because the Biblecertainly does, and it's a warning that15200:11:09.570 --> 00:11:16.250is very biblically based and that thatis just really critical. Is reminding them15300:11:16.730 --> 00:11:22.200this is a sin and there arerepercussions for sin and this could be the15400:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.279repercussion for you, yeah, aswell as for whoever that person is on15500:11:26.399 --> 00:11:28.480the stretcher. Yeah. Also,you know, one of the things,15600:11:28.559 --> 00:11:33.029like common theme that we see aswe're talking to women going into the abortion15700:11:33.149 --> 00:11:35.070center, if we ask them,did you pray and ask God for assign15800:11:35.149 --> 00:11:39.990line, more often than not theysay yes, I prayed and ask for15900:11:39.029 --> 00:11:43.149a sign. And so I'll sayyou think maybe the fact that there's an16000:11:43.149 --> 00:11:48.059ambulance here that's taking woman out ofa stretcher at this place that might be16100:11:48.100 --> 00:11:52.460assigned to you that you shouldn't dothis, that this is not safe.16200:11:52.779 --> 00:11:54.460Yes, this is not a safeplace. Right. That's a really good16300:11:54.500 --> 00:11:58.259point. If you look at thetrack record of abortion clinics, there's a16400:11:58.299 --> 00:12:01.570website that we point people to.Is Not our website. I don't really16500:12:01.570 --> 00:12:05.370know the people to run this website, but there's some usual information on there,16600:12:05.809 --> 00:12:11.090abortion Docs dot org. They've basicallygot the track record of the abortionist16700:12:11.169 --> 00:12:13.250and abortion clinics all across the nation. Some of it's uptodate, some of16800:12:13.330 --> 00:12:18.519its older information, but if youlook through that website, abortion docs dot16900:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.720org, and you see all ofthe things that these abortion clinics, these17000:12:22.759 --> 00:12:28.440abortionists are associated with, these arenot good people, these are not safe17100:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.269places. And then, of course, if you know some of the news17200:12:31.350 --> 00:12:37.149of Plant parenthood and other places,think just recently university was called selling baby17300:12:37.190 --> 00:12:41.669body parts and things like that,using these these aborted babies for research and17400:12:41.750 --> 00:12:48.259abording children just for research purposes andthings like that just just wicked evil stuff.17500:12:48.740 --> 00:12:52.059I think it does serve as asign and it does show how wicked17600:12:52.179 --> 00:12:58.570and dark and evil these places are. Right and we know that the doctors17700:12:58.690 --> 00:13:03.210maybe are not quite of the highestcaliber, just by the fact that we17800:13:03.490 --> 00:13:09.250see all the time the socalled doctors. The abortion is being driven into the17900:13:09.289 --> 00:13:13.559abortion center and they're hiding. Yeah, there, they lie down in the18000:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.240seat, they cover themselves with ablanket, the driver drives them around to18100:13:18.279 --> 00:13:20.879the back of the abortion center andthen they quickly race through with the with18200:13:22.039 --> 00:13:26.120the you know, Hoodie up andmasks and they race through the bushes in18300:13:26.200 --> 00:13:31.110the back so that they can't beidentified. So they can't be recognized.18400:13:31.269 --> 00:13:37.350And anyone who feels the need tohide from what they do tells you that18500:13:37.509 --> 00:13:41.659maybe what they're doing is not somethingthey are proud of. Yeah, absolutely18600:13:43.419 --> 00:13:48.299so. So, yeah, well, something that I have heard people say18700:13:48.500 --> 00:13:50.860is, well, it's not Christianto be taking pictures of an ambulance and18800:13:50.980 --> 00:13:54.379of someone in their darkest moment.There, there they are, in their18900:13:54.419 --> 00:13:58.370darkest moment in the in a medicalemergency. So one of the things I19000:13:58.490 --> 00:14:03.610thought about is as I was thinkingthrough this, is would God do such19100:14:03.649 --> 00:14:09.289a thing? Would he call attentionto the damage of sin to others who19200:14:09.289 --> 00:14:15.720are observing? Yeah, well,yes, he does. Cross is one19300:14:15.799 --> 00:14:20.039of the most, you know,perfect examples of that. where he is,19400:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.350there is Jesus, bloodied, mangled, hanging on a cross because of19500:14:24.509 --> 00:14:28.789our sin, and that is Godcould not be pointing to a more,19600:14:30.710 --> 00:14:35.149you know, perfect picture, yeah, of the consequence of sin, the19700:14:35.389 --> 00:14:39.259horror of the concluence of sin.Yeah, I know there's a temptation for19800:14:39.460 --> 00:14:45.299us as human beings, especially we'rein front of an abortion center, for19900:14:45.419 --> 00:14:46.980example, right, and we're callingout to the women, we're warning them20000:14:48.059 --> 00:14:50.500of the consequences of the sin ofabortion. It's going to destroy your baby.20100:14:50.580 --> 00:14:52.490This is something you, in agroup, regret for the rest of20200:14:52.570 --> 00:14:58.250your life. And then an hourlater an ambulance pulls in and it's very20300:14:58.289 --> 00:15:01.409tempting to say, I told youso, Yep, or is that woman's20400:15:01.409 --> 00:15:03.769being taken out on the stretcher?I told you so, I warned you.20500:15:03.850 --> 00:15:07.360Why didn't you listen to me?Right, to glow, to right,20600:15:07.519 --> 00:15:09.720to gloat the like. I wasright. You are wrong, right,20700:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.240that that's not the mentality that Godwants to us to embrace, that20800:15:13.679 --> 00:15:18.759when it comes down to like exposingsin. Certainly sin gets exposed. Be20900:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.990careful, your sin will find youout, but the motive of our heart21000:15:24.029 --> 00:15:26.269needs to be checked, like whena woman. And so here's here's really,21100:15:26.350 --> 00:15:30.389I think, in my mind andmy heart, what I wanted to21200:15:30.470 --> 00:15:33.070impart to those who are listening.Yeah, is when a woman is being21300:15:33.230 --> 00:15:37.980brought out on the stretcher or,you know, ambulance shows up, whatever21400:15:37.019 --> 00:15:41.340the center scenario might be, ourfirst reactions should be one of grief.21500:15:41.379 --> 00:15:46.019Right. I don't want her,I don't want her life to be destroyed.21600:15:46.940 --> 00:15:50.690I don't want her to suffer theconsequences of her sin necessarily. I21700:15:50.730 --> 00:15:54.730don't want to wag the finger andsay, I told you so. I'm21800:15:54.490 --> 00:15:58.970I know better than her in thesins that in my sin, in my21900:16:00.129 --> 00:16:04.279destructive sin I have. I havedestroyed other people, I have affected other22000:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.879people with decisions I've made and thosedecisions have affected me as well. Like22100:16:10.840 --> 00:16:14.159you know, we're all on thatsame you know, they say sinner saved22200:16:14.200 --> 00:16:15.840by grace. Right, I'm nobetter than her. Yeah, and so22300:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.629I'm not putting myself against her,pit myself against her it. Look,22400:16:18.629 --> 00:16:22.190I'm more righteous than you. Lookwhat it happened to you and did what22500:16:22.309 --> 00:16:26.470didn't happen to me? I wantto be in to be grieve. I22600:16:26.549 --> 00:16:30.110believe it grieves the heart of God. Yeah, I mean, have you22700:16:30.230 --> 00:16:33.500seen women taking out of that placeon a stretcher? Yes, seem even22800:16:33.779 --> 00:16:37.659maybe not taken to the hospital andamulance whatever, but like walked out of22900:16:37.659 --> 00:16:42.580the door by some of the socallednurses, their camp walk they're being they're23000:16:42.620 --> 00:16:48.289holding them up, and it right. It's horrifying and it doesn't it doesn't23100:16:48.289 --> 00:16:52.769cause any joy in in any ofour wonderful volunteers. We're all filled with23200:16:52.169 --> 00:16:59.370sorrow and horror by that. AndBut, but gloating is you came up23300:16:59.450 --> 00:17:03.759with a great a great verse thatI think exemplifies that. It's proverbs twenty23400:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.359four, seventeen to eighteen. I'vegot it here. Yeah, me to23500:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.920read that one. Yeah, donot gloat when your enemy falls, when23600:17:11.960 --> 00:17:17.670they stumble. Do not let yourheart rejoice, or the Lord will see23700:17:18.230 --> 00:17:23.150and disapprove and turn his wrath awayfrom them. They're having the the evidence23800:17:23.710 --> 00:17:29.309of what they did, the consequenceof it. They're living at yeah,23900:17:29.390 --> 00:17:33.339and in the whatever. is terriblething, as befallen them that they have24000:17:33.460 --> 00:17:37.859to be taken away in a stretcherand that, hopefully, is going to24100:17:38.059 --> 00:17:44.529convict their hearts of this is thisis what happens when when we turn from24200:17:44.569 --> 00:17:48.890God, when we rebel against himand do something terrible like like an abortion.24300:17:48.930 --> 00:17:52.809Yeah, but we. We,on the other hand, are warned24400:17:52.930 --> 00:17:59.559by God, don't use that asan opportunity to gloat or rejoice. Yeah,24500:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.519yeah, and if you are andif you feel that rising up in24600:18:03.599 --> 00:18:06.839you, that kind of I toldyou so mentality. Yeah, you need24700:18:06.880 --> 00:18:10.480to check your heart. I needto check your motives. Right. Yes,24800:18:10.599 --> 00:18:12.670are they killing children inside of there? Yes, or those mothers involved24900:18:12.670 --> 00:18:18.829in that? Yes, yeah,but do we delight whenever the consequence is25000:18:18.950 --> 00:18:22.069like if someone is on death row, right, because they've committed a terrible25100:18:22.190 --> 00:18:26.140crime and justice is going to beserved and that person is going to be25200:18:26.220 --> 00:18:30.619put in the electric chair or,yeah, lethal injection, whatever. Yeah,25300:18:30.859 --> 00:18:36.259if you're like delighted to see theelectric tear turned on in the electricity25400:18:36.339 --> 00:18:41.059running through their body or the poisoninjected in their veins, if you delight25500:18:41.299 --> 00:18:44.970in that, and there's a problemwith you. Yeah, you've got issues.25600:18:45.289 --> 00:18:48.250You've become as bad as the peoplethat you're fighting against. Yeah,25700:18:48.329 --> 00:18:56.160that's the if that's the mentality thatis inside of you, and I think25800:18:56.720 --> 00:19:03.319I am prone to a little bitof gloating when a mom chooses life.25900:19:03.720 --> 00:19:08.880Yeah, and the pro abortion peoplebecome very crestfallen and sad because they've done26000:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.549everything in their power to prevent that. Yeah, that's a little bit different,26100:19:12.589 --> 00:19:17.230because there's been a positive outcome forboth the mother and the baby.26200:19:17.230 --> 00:19:21.150Yeah, but even that I havebeen warned. You know, Vicky,26300:19:21.589 --> 00:19:25.779gloating is is not really what youshould be doing. You should be rejoicing26400:19:26.220 --> 00:19:30.819that it wass done. But butwe are not glow. We should not26500:19:30.980 --> 00:19:36.539be celebrating that, that we showedthe enemy up or what. Yeah,26600:19:36.619 --> 00:19:38.849whatever, that's not that's not quitethe right motivation. No, it's not.26700:19:40.130 --> 00:19:41.609I mean, ultimately our desires thatwe want people to come to the26800:19:41.730 --> 00:19:47.210Lord. I don't want people tobe, you know, defeated in any26900:19:47.289 --> 00:19:51.849way. I don't want them tobe downcast anyway. There's a balance there,27000:19:52.049 --> 00:19:53.759though, and I don't want toget into all of that. Certainly27100:19:55.079 --> 00:19:59.039we should rejoice when justice is served. We should write. Yeah, and27200:19:59.160 --> 00:20:03.440so you know, there's a sensein which, yes, if a serial27300:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.589murderer has been put to death,like, we should rejoice that justice have27400:20:07.670 --> 00:20:10.990been served. Well, that's that'sa subject from their podcast in the death27500:20:11.029 --> 00:20:14.230penalty. Yeah, conversation. Wehaven't gotten up at fall all the time,27600:20:14.390 --> 00:20:15.950though. At the abortion center weshould tackle that one day, definitely27700:20:15.990 --> 00:20:18.269needle. I think I kind ofthe cat out the bag of what my27800:20:18.349 --> 00:20:22.940stances on that although, however,I will say, not to have to27900:20:22.019 --> 00:20:26.980go off too far on a tangent, I'm not terribly comfortable with the death28000:20:26.019 --> 00:20:30.099penalty in the United States of Americabecause our justice system is not what it28100:20:30.180 --> 00:20:33.460needs to be. But we willhave that conversation another day. Let's continue28200:20:33.500 --> 00:20:40.329on this conversation. We're not goingto rejoice when someone who has done evil28300:20:40.769 --> 00:20:45.529has read the consequences of their evil, because we have to be honest,28400:20:45.569 --> 00:20:48.769we ourselves to have done evil andGod, in His mercy, gave us28500:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.000mercy, he gave us grace.Right, right, and that's what we28600:20:53.119 --> 00:20:56.559hope for others. Yeah, sohere's a proverb, so you wonder,28700:20:56.640 --> 00:21:02.519is that established biblically as what?Shouldn't we rejoice and righteousness? And should28800:21:02.559 --> 00:21:06.630we rejoice and justice? We should. Yeah, but should we rejoice when28900:21:06.630 --> 00:21:11.269our enemy falls, when the wickedsuffer the consequences of their sin? Yeah,29000:21:11.309 --> 00:21:17.309here's what the Bible says, proverbsseventeen five. Whoever mocks the poor29100:21:17.509 --> 00:21:22.140shows contempt for their maker, whoevergloats over disaster will not go unpunished.29200:21:22.220 --> 00:21:26.019Yeah, gloat over disaster. Right, you'll be punished her for doing that.29300:21:26.339 --> 00:21:30.420Yeah, which is even though theyou know, it may be that29400:21:30.539 --> 00:21:34.049the wicked are getting what they deserve, but we are still not to gloat29500:21:34.569 --> 00:21:41.289over the disaster that ensues. Yeah, yeah, another proverb, proverbs seventeen.29600:21:41.289 --> 00:21:42.529Yeah, I read that one.I did read that one. You've29700:21:42.569 --> 00:21:45.130already read that? Yes, alreadyread that one where you asleep for that29800:21:45.250 --> 00:21:49.680time of I won't load over thatday, over the well, it's read29900:21:49.720 --> 00:21:52.000it again. Okay, it's agood one. Yeah, do not gloat30000:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.640when your enemy falls, when theystumble. Do not let your heart rejoice,30100:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.680or the Lord will see and disapproveand turn his wrath away from them.30200:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.349Yeah, so God's going to havea wrath on them. Is Ultimately,30300:22:03.390 --> 00:22:10.670what it's saying is we need toleave that hope justice and justice being30400:22:10.710 --> 00:22:15.819carried out and reaping and sewing andpeople again reaping the consequences of their sin.30500:22:15.059 --> 00:22:18.740Would you believe that in God's hand? Yeah, yeah, all of30600:22:18.859 --> 00:22:22.019that is in the Lord's hands.He sorts through all of that stuff,30700:22:22.539 --> 00:22:26.619not us. Our position should beone of mercy, one of kindness,30800:22:26.099 --> 00:22:30.490one of Gray's one of understanding that, if not for the grace of God,30900:22:30.609 --> 00:22:33.930we would be in that same situationright. Yeah, and that's a31000:22:33.009 --> 00:22:37.250good principle in general to trust thatGod's going to take care of this.31100:22:37.529 --> 00:22:42.049He's his wrath, his judgment tothe consequences. They are not up to31200:22:42.170 --> 00:22:48.640us. They are all up toGod in that person. And and we31300:22:48.799 --> 00:22:52.000know he's a just God and weknow that he loves them and that the31400:22:52.200 --> 00:22:59.670purpose sometimes of suffering, not always, but sometimes the purpose is to teach31500:22:59.789 --> 00:23:03.549and to guide. Yeah, anddid that might very well be what's happening31600:23:03.630 --> 00:23:07.309as that woman's being taken away.Yeah, and ambulance. That that God31700:23:07.430 --> 00:23:12.779is using this as an opportunity toteach and guide. Or maybe not for31800:23:12.940 --> 00:23:19.740that, maybe that she abhorded,but maybe for her ultimate salvation, her31900:23:19.740 --> 00:23:26.259ultimate turning to God and for futurechildren through that experience. Yeah. So32000:23:26.420 --> 00:23:32.450it can be a really valuable momentand experience for them. And and that's32100:23:32.529 --> 00:23:37.529biblical God, God definitely uses throughoutthe Bible. We hear about people who32200:23:37.250 --> 00:23:44.279are in terrible suffering circumstances and Goddoes say with some of them, this32300:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.880is due to your sin. Yeah, now go and send no more less32400:23:48.039 --> 00:23:51.319something worse will happen to you.I think that was the story that I32500:23:51.480 --> 00:23:56.990told in the article that were we'regoing to be putting out about the the32600:23:56.549 --> 00:24:03.589man by the sheep gate. Yeah, who, who was blind. Well,32700:24:03.750 --> 00:24:07.109I don't know if he was blindparalized, but he was John Chipped32800:24:07.230 --> 00:24:11.819Five. Yeah, yeah, andhe had been there an invalid for thirty32900:24:11.900 --> 00:24:14.539eight years. And and the way, when, when, I remember,33000:24:14.579 --> 00:24:18.740when I first read that, Ijust felt sorry for him. Yeah,33100:24:18.819 --> 00:24:22.460and and thought this poor man,and it never occurred to me that any33200:24:22.539 --> 00:24:29.289of this was through his own sinor his own fault. But later on,33300:24:29.609 --> 00:24:33.529Jesus, Jesus, heals him.Yeah, tells, tells him,33400:24:34.490 --> 00:24:37.920do you want to get well?So he asks him first you want to33500:24:37.960 --> 00:24:42.079be healed? The man's gives allthese excuses for why he cannot be.33600:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.599He doesn't really directly answer the questionyes or no. He says why he33700:24:47.240 --> 00:24:51.920can't be healed, and then Jesusgives him the command to get up,33800:24:51.960 --> 00:24:56.589pick up your mat and walk.The man's instantly cured. But it's later33900:24:56.710 --> 00:25:00.390that Jesus sees him at the Templeand says, see you are well again.34000:25:00.950 --> 00:25:06.190Stop Sinning, or something worse mayhappen to you. Yeah. Now,34100:25:06.190 --> 00:25:10.140I could be interpreting it wrong,but to me it sounds like that34200:25:10.220 --> 00:25:15.900at least some of whatever suffering hewas going through, maybe all, maybe34300:25:15.019 --> 00:25:21.809just part of his illnesses, wasdue to sin, because Jesus said,34400:25:21.809 --> 00:25:26.890stop sinning or something worse will happento you. Yeah, but certainly could34500:25:26.890 --> 00:25:32.490be interpreted that way. I don'tknow that that's the correct interpretation of it.34600:25:32.650 --> 00:25:34.720I think the warning is, though, that your sin can lead to34700:25:36.160 --> 00:25:40.359terrible things. So right, whetheror not that's connected to his earlier state,34800:25:40.559 --> 00:25:42.880that he was invalid or whatever.Yeah, he was paralyzed, whether34900:25:42.880 --> 00:25:45.759it was because of his sin ornot, the warning still is that sin35000:25:45.960 --> 00:25:51.029can lead to things worse, yeah, than being paralyzed. Right, yeah,35100:25:51.029 --> 00:25:53.910it'simately to hell. Yeah. Soyou later on in I believe it's35200:25:53.910 --> 00:25:59.029John Chapter Nine, were Jesus there'sa man who was born blind in the35300:25:59.109 --> 00:26:02.910disciples. Ask Lord it was itbecause of his sinners parents, and Jesus35400:26:02.910 --> 00:26:04.859said, basically neither one of those. It's for the glory of God and35500:26:04.940 --> 00:26:10.420ultimate he heals a man. Right. So it's not always that the things35600:26:10.420 --> 00:26:14.460that you suffer are directly connected withsin, but it is always that there35700:26:14.539 --> 00:26:17.940is a consequence for sin. That'sbe careful, your sin will find you35800:26:18.019 --> 00:26:21.009out. That's right. And againit's the motive of our heart. What35900:26:21.329 --> 00:26:25.890is our motive when we're seeing theconsequences and we even laying out I think36000:26:25.930 --> 00:26:30.809there's a sense in which you couldsay I told you so to someone who's36100:26:30.849 --> 00:26:33.920suffering the consequences of sin. Youdon't say it like that, I don't36200:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.960think, but you help them makethe connection. And don't you see that36300:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.960God in his word, clearly warnsagainst, you know, whatever it might36400:26:41.000 --> 00:26:47.390be, sex outside of marriage,and how the consequences can be unplanned pregnancy36500:26:47.430 --> 00:26:52.829and ununput unwanted pregnancy, and youcan make that connection. The consequences can36600:26:52.990 --> 00:26:56.750be of doing drugs, can bethat. It runs your mind, it36700:26:56.829 --> 00:27:00.869runs your body. Right. Yeah, and it's not like you know,36800:27:00.029 --> 00:27:03.740I told you so in a pridefulsense, but it's like look what,36900:27:03.099 --> 00:27:07.779look what God warned you of.Yeah, and you can, I could37000:27:07.779 --> 00:27:11.140say even with a woman who's inthis state, who's ended ambulance, who's37100:27:11.140 --> 00:27:14.019in the hospital, who has somekind of negative effect from her abortion,37200:27:14.420 --> 00:27:17.210you don't need to necessarily say Itold you so, but you can't make37300:27:17.289 --> 00:27:21.650the connection and see, God warnsagainst the consequences of Sin. Yeah,37400:27:21.690 --> 00:27:25.289and you're not right now suffering someof those consequences that he warned you against.37500:27:25.450 --> 00:27:29.049Right, but you still have breathin your lungs, and so God37600:27:29.250 --> 00:27:32.960still he's not done with you.Don't you see? Now is the time37700:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.640to a pen and put your trustin him. Yeah, and I think37800:27:34.680 --> 00:27:38.839you can say that and I thinkyou can communicate that to even when an37900:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.400ambulance shows about the abortion center,any of these scenarios were a woman.38000:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.589I mean that's that's basically what we'regetting at. When a woman is negatively38100:27:45.630 --> 00:27:51.710affected by an abortion and it happensright there in front of you, there38200:27:51.869 --> 00:27:53.789is a way to communicate to them. Don't you see that? Now you're38300:27:53.789 --> 00:27:56.910at the end of yourself and youneed God. And really, is it38400:27:57.029 --> 00:28:02.180not that when we're at the endof the ourselves that don't we realize that38500:28:02.339 --> 00:28:04.140that's when we really need the Lord, that we really can't do this stuff38600:28:04.180 --> 00:28:07.700ourselves? That's right, and soyou are able to speak kind of that38700:28:07.900 --> 00:28:11.930hard truth about look at where yoursin has brought you, because you ended38800:28:11.970 --> 00:28:18.529it with but there is a beautifulopportunity for you right now to turn your38900:28:18.569 --> 00:28:22.210life around and turn your life overto the Lord. Yeah, and so39000:28:22.450 --> 00:28:26.250you can. You're going all theway through the Gospel. Kind of you39100:28:26.410 --> 00:28:30.359seen what is happening to them rightthere in bringing it to the beautiful conclusion39200:28:30.599 --> 00:28:37.480of repentance and ultimately salvation. Yeah. Yeah, so now I do know39300:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.670that, as we're seeing this happenin front of us again, ambulance coming39400:28:42.269 --> 00:28:47.309or, like I've mentioned before,we've seen women that have been taken out39500:28:47.390 --> 00:28:49.750by the nurses and walk to theircar with their staggering through the car.39600:28:49.869 --> 00:28:55.710You know, they just had asurgical abortion. They've obviously been terribly affected39700:28:55.740 --> 00:28:57.579by it. Wasn't just can't ambulatethemselves, which, by the way,39800:28:57.740 --> 00:29:03.140I thought that was a legal allthat you have to be able to leave39900:29:03.660 --> 00:29:07.740in your on your own power.Yeah, or they're not supposed to discharge40000:29:07.779 --> 00:29:10.170you. Yeah, I thought thatwas the case. I could be wrong40100:29:10.170 --> 00:29:12.569about that, but people listening maywant to look that up in their own40200:29:12.690 --> 00:29:18.690community. Yeah, I mean maybethere's different laws. I know from what40300:29:18.769 --> 00:29:22.730I understand here locally, as longas someone can drive them away, they're40400:29:22.769 --> 00:29:26.000okay, okay to leave in thatstate, but yeah, maybe dig a40500:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.839little deeper in that, but ineither those scenarios they've been taken away on40600:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.640ambulance or they've obviously been negatively affectedby the abortion. Are they've not been40700:29:36.279 --> 00:29:41.349outwardly negatively affected by the abortion.They're just driving out again, the ambulance40800:29:41.509 --> 00:29:45.309is driving out. What are thethings that I try to train our volunteers40900:29:45.470 --> 00:29:51.109and people that are doing sidewalk ministryto do? Is, when that ambulance41000:29:51.150 --> 00:29:55.339is driving away, what do wewant that person to see? Maybe that41100:29:56.220 --> 00:29:59.740woman is able to see out thewindow, or maybe the person that's riding41200:29:59.740 --> 00:30:02.940with them, the boyfriend or theirmom or whoever is in the ambulance.41300:30:03.059 --> 00:30:07.089When they're looking out, they're expectingto see someone on that sidewalk looking at41400:30:07.170 --> 00:30:11.089them, wagging the finger and sayingI told you so. When they're driving41500:30:11.130 --> 00:30:15.609out after having had the abortion,and there again they're not negatively affected,41600:30:15.690 --> 00:30:19.410so called, physically or whatever,by the abortion, but they're driving out,41700:30:19.410 --> 00:30:23.039they look in their rear view mirror, they're expecting to see someone wagging41800:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.480the finger, yelling at them,look what you did, I want and41900:30:26.599 --> 00:30:33.559you calling them names, calling thenames whatever. What I want them to42000:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.190see, though, and I thinkthis is from the Lord, and you42100:30:36.269 --> 00:30:38.029guys that are listening, you canbring this before the Lord if you if42200:30:38.069 --> 00:30:41.710you want, if you disagree withme, bring it before the Lord and42300:30:42.509 --> 00:30:47.069see what he says in his word. When they look in that rear view42400:30:47.109 --> 00:30:51.099mirror, what I want them tosee is I want them to see us42500:30:51.180 --> 00:30:55.819with our heads down, Yep,praying for them. Even put my hand42600:30:55.859 --> 00:30:59.099up, I'm praying. You know, as Pentecostals, like to lay hands42700:30:59.140 --> 00:31:02.299on stuff and, you know,pray and lift our hands and all that42800:31:02.420 --> 00:31:03.890stuff. I want them to seethat. I want them to see a42900:31:04.410 --> 00:31:11.049posture of grief, of humility,of prayer, of intercession for them.43000:31:11.210 --> 00:31:15.769I want them to see that someonecares about them, even that person that43100:31:15.849 --> 00:31:18.519they thought was going to be waggingthe finger. That person is praying for43200:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.920them. Right. I think that'sreally what they should see in their review43300:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.440mirror. I agree. That's sucha powerful thing for them to see.43400:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.640And and you're showing the love andthe Care Jesus. Yeah, that moment.43500:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.509Yeah, and it takes us reallybiting our pride. Yeah, and43600:31:33.670 --> 00:31:37.589US saying, yes, they sufferedthe consequences of their sin. Yeah,43700:31:37.630 --> 00:31:41.869and they're going to likely suffer theconsequences of their sin. But God,43800:31:41.109 --> 00:31:44.630please have mercy, and that's whatI'm praying. I'm not just pretending like43900:31:44.710 --> 00:31:47.220I'm praying so they see something,and I'm not trying to put on a44000:31:47.339 --> 00:31:49.700show, but I do want themto see me in that Review Mirror.44100:31:49.700 --> 00:31:52.180And what am I praying? Thisis what I'm praying, Lord Jesus.44200:31:52.220 --> 00:31:56.259I pray that you show that womanthat you're a god of mercy, that44300:31:56.420 --> 00:31:57.619she can turn to you, thatif she turns you, you'll save and44400:31:57.660 --> 00:32:00.569you'll rescue your in spite of hersin, you still love her and you44500:32:00.569 --> 00:32:04.690would still have mercy on her.So I'm praying a prayer of mercy,44600:32:05.009 --> 00:32:08.250intercession. God, draw that womanto your to yourself. I'm praying also44700:32:08.250 --> 00:32:12.609a conviction. I pray that shewould see that she took the life of44800:32:12.690 --> 00:32:15.410her child. I pray that shewould feel the conviction of the Holy Spirit44900:32:15.609 --> 00:32:19.480and see, Lord Jesus, thatyou're the only way that her sins can45000:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.720be washed away. That's what I'mpraying right and I'm interceding for that woman45100:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.200right and I believe God's using that. Yeah, and I agree. And45200:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.640not, and I think you've saidthis but just to say again, not45300:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.549only when they're leaving in an ambulance, but every time, yeah, a45400:32:32.630 --> 00:32:37.269woman is leaving and we know she'shad the abortion. Yeah, that that45500:32:37.509 --> 00:32:44.150they should see us in merciful prayer, yeah, for them, and attitude45600:32:44.150 --> 00:32:49.299any way of prayer. Yeah,and just to end this thing out and45700:32:49.859 --> 00:32:52.940shift gears just a little bit witha few practical things that I don't think45800:32:52.980 --> 00:32:55.740you have in the article. Maybeyou end up adding this. Okay article,45900:32:55.859 --> 00:33:01.089but in the vein of again notbeing a creeper, not being a46000:33:01.210 --> 00:33:05.650Weirdo, I think there is somehelpful things you can do, though.46100:33:05.769 --> 00:33:08.730If you see an ambulance at theabortion center, there's a way that you46200:33:08.890 --> 00:33:14.599can get the records of why thatambulance showed it showed up. It's not46300:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.920in every state and every municipality canbe a little different, but you can46400:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.920call and you can ask for theinformation. They are a public records.46500:33:22.119 --> 00:33:27.430The freedom of Information Act basically allowsfor you to be able to get this46600:33:27.710 --> 00:33:31.470information that's public so that the publiccan be aware of the things that are46700:33:31.509 --> 00:33:35.829going on. So if you doget the information, they're going to have46800:33:36.069 --> 00:33:39.910didacted, the woman's name likely,and some of the information that might identify46900:33:39.950 --> 00:33:42.859who she is. And again that'snot what we want to know. You47000:33:42.980 --> 00:33:45.099know, and I wouldn't put thatout either. If you did find anything47100:33:45.140 --> 00:33:50.140out, I wouldn't use that name, but definitely using what happened and knowing47200:33:50.220 --> 00:33:52.299if it was a boxed abortion inany way. Right, and the motive47300:33:52.339 --> 00:33:55.130behind that. Again, it's notto go against that woman, right,47400:33:55.130 --> 00:33:58.450right. We want her to cometo know the Lord, right, but47500:33:58.569 --> 00:34:01.049it's really to expose. Was thatEfesians, Chapter Five, verse eleven,47600:34:01.210 --> 00:34:06.369have no fellowship within froof of workshopdarkness, but rather expose them. We47700:34:06.490 --> 00:34:09.199want to expose these abortion clinics,who want to expose what they're doing.47800:34:09.280 --> 00:34:14.840They pretend to be women's health carefacilities and yet they're butchering women behind the47900:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.360scenes. I mean, look whathappened in the current gods nail thing,48000:34:16.679 --> 00:34:22.039right, and how that finally gotexposed. But what if someone would have48100:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.469earlier exposing which actually, if youlisten to them, there's a there's a48200:34:24.550 --> 00:34:29.150documentary that is called Gus. Nowit's actually not a documentary, actually a48300:34:29.230 --> 00:34:32.590movie. But then there's documentaries thatkind of show that whole current Guznell thing48400:34:32.670 --> 00:34:37.510that took place there were people thatactually try to expose this and there's a48500:34:37.550 --> 00:34:40.099lot of cover up and all thatstuff, but we've got to do what48600:34:40.219 --> 00:34:45.980we can to expose these abortion centersfor really what they are, especially because48700:34:45.059 --> 00:34:52.579there's such a powerful lobby behind mindthose, the abortion industry, and we48800:34:52.289 --> 00:34:58.929are probably not as powerful or haveas much money. So whenever we do48900:34:59.210 --> 00:35:04.730have information that can be a chinkin their armor of lies, then we49000:35:04.849 --> 00:35:09.239should we should definitely give that information, yeah, to the public. Yeah.49100:35:09.679 --> 00:35:13.440Are there any other helpful suggestions?You said there were. There were.49200:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.920Now, that was basically it,you know, digging into public records49300:35:16.960 --> 00:35:22.110if you can. Yeah, toexpose these places. Okay, even on49400:35:22.190 --> 00:35:24.989the sidewalk, having a sheet ofpaper. We have what we call it.49500:35:25.110 --> 00:35:29.389It's call our bullet pointed sheet,right, yeah, about the abortion49600:35:29.510 --> 00:35:31.110center. So we have these kindof bullet point of these situations where we49700:35:31.150 --> 00:35:36.900know they've boughted abortions and the trackrecord of the abortionist. We have that49800:35:37.059 --> 00:35:40.059so we can show these moms andthey can look these things up. You49900:35:40.099 --> 00:35:44.179can find these things in a googlesearch, the different times that they've had50000:35:44.260 --> 00:35:47.420citations on their medical record. FarAs the abortion center check my clinic dot50100:35:47.460 --> 00:35:52.369org gives some website that will alsopoint out some of the infractions of health50200:35:52.449 --> 00:35:57.849centers. Yeah, absolutely, so, yeah, checking them out, getting50300:35:57.849 --> 00:36:01.849information about those infractions and having thatas something you can show the MOMS.50400:36:01.929 --> 00:36:05.639It's not the first thing I'm goingto talk to them about. Really going50500:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.599to use our three talking points.You know what God says, humanity of50600:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.119the baby and resources that are available. But I'll also pull that out too,50700:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.880as a wild card. Do youknow about this abortion clinic? You50800:36:15.000 --> 00:36:17.590know what they've been responsible for?Yeah, and that can turn away a50900:36:19.230 --> 00:36:22.630mother from abortion as well. Yeah, it can. So hopefully this was51000:36:22.670 --> 00:36:24.389a blessing you guys. It waskind of an off the cuff subject that51100:36:24.429 --> 00:36:28.949we felt like we we would coverand be a blessing to you guys.51200:36:29.829 --> 00:36:32.900Give us some feedback. Let usknow, share this podcast with others.51300:36:34.019 --> 00:36:38.179We would certainly love to get morelisteners on board and reach out to us.51400:36:38.260 --> 00:36:40.659We reach out to me, DanielLove Life Dot Org, and reach51500:36:40.659 --> 00:36:45.139hurt Vicki at Love Life Dot Org. If you have suggestions for future episodes,51600:36:45.179 --> 00:36:50.769any comments or things like that aboutthis episode or other episodes. Questions,51700:36:50.849 --> 00:36:53.130we'd certainly love to answer your questionsthe best we can, but until51800:36:53.170 --> 00:37:01.760next time, God bless, godlessy'all. Give our love for love.51900:37:06.480 --> 00:37:15.599Give me our love for gratitude.I know it will cost me my life.52000:37:19.269 --> 00:37:22.670Nothing's too precious in some you