Feb. 25, 2021

What Disqualifies Us From Ministry?

What Disqualifies Us From Ministry?

The enemy uses all kinds of things to discourage and ultimately disqualify people from ministry. However, oftentimes the things we feel disqualify us are the things that make us qualified. In this episode, we talk about disqualifications for ministry...


The enemy uses all kinds of things to discourage and ultimately disqualify people from ministry. However, oftentimes the things we feel disqualify us are the things that make us qualified. In this episode, we talk about disqualifications for ministry and give some guidance and encouragement that will help keep you in the battle for LIFE.

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Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me. 2 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:10.189 Lord, Welcome to the Gospel Center per life podcast the enemies always coming 3 00:00:10.230 --> 00:00:13.789 against us, trying to discourage us and tell us that we're disqualified from ministry. 4 00:00:14.150 --> 00:00:18.230 Most of that's lies, but there are some things that disqualifies from ministry. 5 00:00:18.429 --> 00:00:24.379 Join us as we talk about those things. Stay too, I felt 6 00:00:24.780 --> 00:00:37.850 show passish, touch your heart. Use Welcome to the Gospel Center per life 7 00:00:37.929 --> 00:00:42.369 podcasts. Appreciate you, guys, tuning in and appreciate you, guys, 8 00:00:42.450 --> 00:00:51.719 blessing us with awesome reviews on itunes or apple podcasts or however else you get 9 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:56.039 podcasts. Please leave us good reviews and please share this podcast with other people 10 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:59.880 that it might be a blessing and encouragement to because that's the intention of these 11 00:00:59.920 --> 00:01:02.560 podcasts. We want it to be a blessing with them, to be an 12 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:06.950 encouragement to you, especially those who are already on the sidewalk at abortion centers, 13 00:01:07.349 --> 00:01:10.750 but even those who may not be yet on the sidewalk. Would encourage 14 00:01:10.790 --> 00:01:14.069 folks to be out there, to give a voice to the voiceless and to 15 00:01:14.150 --> 00:01:18.430 bring the Gospel where it's most needed, which is at these places of darkness 16 00:01:18.469 --> 00:01:21.980 that are in our city, these abortion centers. Yeah, and so we're 17 00:01:22.019 --> 00:01:26.579 going to jump into our subject right away and talk about what dis qualifies someone 18 00:01:26.739 --> 00:01:32.780 for Ministry, Like what would disqualify me if I were to drop out of 19 00:01:33.329 --> 00:01:38.250 ministry? What will be those disqualifying factors? Right and also remembers we're talking 20 00:01:38.290 --> 00:01:45.530 through disqualification. We're also not really specifically talking about that, and maybe we'll 21 00:01:45.530 --> 00:01:49.439 get into this a little bit. But there are sometimes seasons where you need 22 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:52.319 to step back for just a little bit and I think, you know, 23 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:56.319 maybe our propensity could be in our flesh is that we want to step back 24 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:00.359 and we really need to just press in right now. When that that point 25 00:02:00.590 --> 00:02:05.030 is? You know, I can't tell you exactly. Yeah, but I 26 00:02:05.109 --> 00:02:09.229 do know one thing that Jesus certainly did take times away from ministry. Jesus 27 00:02:09.270 --> 00:02:14.030 certainly understood again the mission that his father had called him to and he was 28 00:02:15.030 --> 00:02:20.659 had his face set like a flint, using biblical terminology to do the will 29 00:02:20.699 --> 00:02:22.659 of his father, like he was going to do the will of his father, 30 00:02:22.699 --> 00:02:24.259 but he also was going to spend time with his father. So it's 31 00:02:24.300 --> 00:02:28.259 not really the scope of what we're talking about necessarily, but that's just something 32 00:02:28.340 --> 00:02:31.810 to keep in mind. We're talking about disqualification for ministry. Also understand that 33 00:02:32.729 --> 00:02:38.289 there are times that people need to step back, but I think within the 34 00:02:38.330 --> 00:02:43.889 scope of the calling and need to be prepared to step back into when you've 35 00:02:43.930 --> 00:02:46.520 stepped back for a bit, right. Yeah, and mean we found a 36 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:51.159 good scripture, I think. Yeah, that we could maybe start off with. 37 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:59.150 That gives us some sense of are we only qualified for ministry if we're 38 00:02:59.189 --> 00:03:01.590 really strong? Because a lot of the stuff we're going to be talking about 39 00:03:01.669 --> 00:03:07.830 in what disqualifies US seem to be weaknesses or even sin or past sin. 40 00:03:08.270 --> 00:03:15.500 Yeah, and so one of the dangers is that people entering ministry feel, 41 00:03:15.699 --> 00:03:19.020 well, I've got to be really strong, if not perfect, right. 42 00:03:19.379 --> 00:03:23.860 And and we we think the Bible would probably say that is not the case 43 00:03:23.900 --> 00:03:28.689 at all. Well, I would say in just based on this scripture and 44 00:03:28.729 --> 00:03:34.370 who wrote this scripture. Yeah, I think just understanding the way God operates 45 00:03:34.449 --> 00:03:38.930 is not how human beings operate. We operate in well, you should really 46 00:03:38.969 --> 00:03:42.000 play on your strengths. So, for example, what I'm talking about is 47 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:46.400 the Apostle Paul, the apostle Paul who wrote the scripture I'm about to read 48 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:51.159 was a Hebrew of Hebrews. Even describes himself. He was from the Traube 49 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:54.599 of Benjamin. He was a pharisee according to the law. He was a 50 00:03:54.680 --> 00:04:00.229 Pharisee, like he was a Jew of Jews. He was the guy that 51 00:04:00.349 --> 00:04:02.110 you would think, yeah, write a leader in if God was going to 52 00:04:02.189 --> 00:04:05.310 call him, you think, will God would call him, certainly to Jewish 53 00:04:05.310 --> 00:04:09.110 people, because he has the background and he's got all the knowledge about the 54 00:04:09.150 --> 00:04:14.539 Jewish scriptures and all of that right. But Actually God calls the Apostle Paul 55 00:04:14.979 --> 00:04:18.899 primarily to the gentiles and of course he uses the Apostle Paul to reach Jews, 56 00:04:19.220 --> 00:04:23.740 certainly because God wants to reach everybody. But his particular calling was to 57 00:04:23.779 --> 00:04:26.449 the gentiles, which is not how we would operate. We would think now 58 00:04:26.529 --> 00:04:31.610 he's his strength is in this. Yeah, but this scripture written by the 59 00:04:31.610 --> 00:04:36.129 Apostle Paul says he said to me, my grace is sufficient for you, 60 00:04:36.490 --> 00:04:41.639 for power is perfected in weakness. Most gladly, therefore, I would rather 61 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:46.240 boast in my weaknesses so that the power of quiet Christ may dwell in me. 62 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:50.199 Therefore, I'm well content with weaknesses, with insults, with distresses, 63 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:55.430 with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ's sake, for when I am weak, 64 00:04:56.069 --> 00:05:00.670 then I am strong. And that Second Corinthians twelve versus ten, and 65 00:05:00.870 --> 00:05:03.629 then I few weather ten to twelve, I think. Yeah, with those 66 00:05:03.709 --> 00:05:08.220 verses. Yeah, Yeah, and the Apostle Paul actually wrote this. I 67 00:05:08.339 --> 00:05:12.500 was just speaking to someone who I was vetting to potentially come and be a 68 00:05:12.579 --> 00:05:15.339 missionary with us, come to do our boot camp and our training. If 69 00:05:15.379 --> 00:05:18.420 you guys don't know about that, please go to love life dot org slash 70 00:05:18.620 --> 00:05:24.730 America and you'll find out information about sidewalk missionary ministry. You can even get 71 00:05:25.009 --> 00:05:29.170 into the loop to find out more about that. But I was sharing with 72 00:05:29.209 --> 00:05:31.170 one of the missionaries that I was talking through and she was just she's young 73 00:05:31.250 --> 00:05:36.199 lady and she was kind of intimidated by the idea that God might have her 74 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:41.240 on the sidewalk talking to people and even rallying the church and her city right 75 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:44.800 to be out at prayer walks and all of that, and so I read 76 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.319 her the scripture to encourage her. And this is the Apostle Paul again. 77 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:51.589 He's this isn't first Conthians, chapter two and verse three, and he says 78 00:05:51.629 --> 00:05:57.389 I came to you when we weakness, with great fear and trembling. MMM, 79 00:05:57.509 --> 00:06:00.149 that's good. Yeah, the ESV says I was with you in weakness, 80 00:06:00.269 --> 00:06:04.620 in fear and much true, much trembling, not just trembling, much 81 00:06:04.819 --> 00:06:08.740 true. So if you have weakness, Uh Huh, if you have fear, 82 00:06:08.779 --> 00:06:11.939 Uh Huh, and you have much trembling, right, then you are 83 00:06:12.019 --> 00:06:15.100 well qualified for menish. Exactly what way have they need? Yeah, we 84 00:06:15.220 --> 00:06:18.449 under listen. If we think that we're going to operate and minister out of 85 00:06:18.490 --> 00:06:24.970 our strengths, out of our human abilities, that we're going to fall flat 86 00:06:25.129 --> 00:06:28.810 on the crowned. Yeah, we've got to be in fear and much trembly. 87 00:06:28.889 --> 00:06:30.769 We've got to be, and I think I share with you guys in 88 00:06:30.850 --> 00:06:35.279 the past, my favorite scripture, John Chapter Fifteen, favorite chapter of the 89 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:40.720 whole entire Bibles, Chapter Fifteen, where Jesus says I'm the vine, you 90 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:43.759 are the branches. He gives on to say if you abide in me and 91 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.629 I and you, you will bear much fruit, for apart from me you 92 00:06:46.870 --> 00:06:51.870 can do nothing. Yeah, that's exactly what Paul's talking about here in First 93 00:06:51.949 --> 00:06:55.589 Corinthians, chapter two, verse three. Is What he's talking about in that 94 00:06:55.629 --> 00:07:00.430 Second Corinthians passage is that in my weakness I am strong. Why? Because 95 00:07:00.430 --> 00:07:05.259 I'm not relying on me, I'm relying on him, on the Lord. 96 00:07:05.259 --> 00:07:12.699 Yeah, yeah, I think this is just so great and the scripture is 97 00:07:12.860 --> 00:07:18.329 clearly guiding us that we can still have weaknesses and be used by God, 98 00:07:19.529 --> 00:07:24.209 because I think many people, I know this was true of me, is 99 00:07:24.410 --> 00:07:30.279 true of me. If I'm struggling personally, I will quite often struggle in 100 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:38.360 silence. Yeah, because I'm scared. I'm scared what if this disqualifies me 101 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:43.920 from what I'm doing? What if it makes other people think less of me, 102 00:07:44.430 --> 00:07:48.269 that I'm that I'm supposed to be leading and I love what I do. 103 00:07:48.629 --> 00:07:53.629 What if they fire me? Yeah, because of these struggles. So 104 00:07:54.149 --> 00:07:58.389 that's why, for me personally, I really wanted to tackle this podcast because 105 00:07:58.389 --> 00:08:01.500 I don't think I'm alone. I don't think I'm alone in those fears. 106 00:08:01.060 --> 00:08:07.180 And even just what you just read this scripture already like comes my spirit, 107 00:08:07.540 --> 00:08:15.529 because the Bible is clear. Just because you struggle doesn't mean you cannot minister 108 00:08:16.050 --> 00:08:18.850 and be effective. Yeah, absolutely, is a matter of fact. Because 109 00:08:18.970 --> 00:08:24.810 you struggle, you're able to minister more effectively. In some situations. I'll 110 00:08:24.850 --> 00:08:28.519 just use the example of you yourself in the fact that, and you shared 111 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.840 it before, that you have an abortion in your past, right, and 112 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.039 that, in a very real sense, is a weakness, right, it's. 113 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:39.080 Yeah, you look back in your history, Sin, yeah, deep 114 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:43.590 sin in the past. Of course, always the the temptation to believe some 115 00:08:43.669 --> 00:08:46.470 of the lies that you're told that, because you had an abortion, it's 116 00:08:46.509 --> 00:08:48.789 a hypocritical thing for you to stand in front of an abortion clinic, right, 117 00:08:48.789 --> 00:08:52.070 until other people not to do that. Yeah, and so that can 118 00:08:52.110 --> 00:08:56.620 slip into your psyche and you start to believe that. But the reality is 119 00:08:56.539 --> 00:09:01.740 is that because of that, because of that abortion, because you know what 120 00:09:01.940 --> 00:09:03.820 these women, many of them, are struggling with, because you know of 121 00:09:03.940 --> 00:09:09.779 the after effects of abortion, because of that air quotes weakness, right, 122 00:09:09.490 --> 00:09:13.649 that's actually become a strength for you. Yeah, you can speak out of 123 00:09:13.769 --> 00:09:16.649 that and also speak out of the fact that the Lord has healed you from 124 00:09:16.690 --> 00:09:20.049 that. Yeah, right. And with all of our so called weaknesses, 125 00:09:20.850 --> 00:09:28.159 we have to view those weaknesses in light of who were serving. We're serving 126 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.240 the Lord, we're not just serving people, and that's why we always have 127 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:33.919 to have the focus that we're out there for God first and if we're serving 128 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:37.399 him and he's called it, called us to this ministry. You like they 129 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:43.509 say, we're God guides. He provides right, so he provides US strength 130 00:09:43.909 --> 00:09:46.549 in our weaknesses. And I'll tell you what I've seen. Often Times, 131 00:09:46.590 --> 00:09:52.899 when I see someone come out that volunteer whatever and there they're really strong, 132 00:09:52.980 --> 00:09:56.460 or appear to be strong in certain areas, that's actually concerned for me because 133 00:09:56.500 --> 00:10:01.980 a lot of times that is rooted in pride. Yeah, and they're not 134 00:10:01.100 --> 00:10:03.860 willing to get out of the way and let God do his thing. Now, 135 00:10:03.860 --> 00:10:07.049 I don't mean that people don't need to have strengths in certain areas and 136 00:10:07.090 --> 00:10:11.529 stuff like that, but I do mean to say that if I see kind 137 00:10:11.570 --> 00:10:15.250 of an air of people relying or their own strengths, their own abilities, 138 00:10:15.889 --> 00:10:20.330 I see problems. Yeah, well, I know what was true for me 139 00:10:20.769 --> 00:10:26.480 when I first came into this ministry was I suffered in silence with the truth 140 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:30.080 of that abortion and I don't talk. I didn't tell anyone because I thought 141 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.919 it was so terrible. How could I tell anyone? And what we again, 142 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.629 all those things I stated earlier. What would they all think of me? 143 00:10:37.710 --> 00:10:41.230 And and I suffered in silence for many years before I finally did tell 144 00:10:41.669 --> 00:10:46.669 you all. Yeah, and and so one of the things that I really 145 00:10:46.789 --> 00:10:52.820 hope that this podcast, one of the messages will be speak to others. 146 00:10:52.980 --> 00:10:58.379 Don't don't be afraid, don't hold it in the struggles that you're going going 147 00:10:58.500 --> 00:11:01.500 through because, and we're going to talk about that, I think, later 148 00:11:01.779 --> 00:11:05.289 on a little bit more in the podcast, but that is not what God 149 00:11:05.370 --> 00:11:09.809 would have us do. Know the devil will use that. He will. 150 00:11:09.090 --> 00:11:15.289 And what you're trying to hold in and not share with other people because you're 151 00:11:15.289 --> 00:11:20.000 afraid it will disqualify you from ministry or whatever ultimately can be what disquality. 152 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:22.799 disqualifies you from ministry because you're holding it in. That's right, and not 153 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:28.080 that you're disqualified in the sense that you know someone's told you just qualified. 154 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.240 But you start to get neutralized and you start to feel guilty and you start 155 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:37.230 to the more stuff you hold in, the more that stuff festers and it 156 00:11:37.389 --> 00:11:41.789 just becomes a root of bitterness. Actually right. That's why you need to 157 00:11:41.870 --> 00:11:45.549 have people that you share these things with. Always encourage people, in any 158 00:11:45.629 --> 00:11:48.340 realm of ministry, to just in any realm of your walk with God, 159 00:11:48.620 --> 00:11:52.419 you need to have an accountability right. Right. Need to have someone that 160 00:11:52.539 --> 00:11:56.340 you convent to, you need to have someone that you can share the stuff 161 00:11:56.340 --> 00:12:00.899 that you're struggling with too, if nothing else just to be able to voice 162 00:12:00.940 --> 00:12:05.009 it exactly. So there there are some things that do disqualify you. Kind 163 00:12:05.009 --> 00:12:07.889 of have touched on that even in your description of their can and I don't 164 00:12:07.929 --> 00:12:11.129 think that was one of the things we had listed, but I think it's 165 00:12:11.169 --> 00:12:18.440 very true. If you're so self sufficient and proud that you can't even recognize 166 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:22.559 that you have weakness, that might disqualify you. Yeah, I think we 167 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:26.879 do need to be clear, like this is this is intended, this podcast 168 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:31.750 intended to encourage people, right, but also there are things that do disqualify 169 00:12:31.830 --> 00:12:35.110 you from ministry, and I want to discourage people that are involved in these 170 00:12:35.149 --> 00:12:39.389 things from getting involved in ministry, because sometimes what people will do, especially 171 00:12:39.429 --> 00:12:43.580 in some of these areas, when they have rebellious heart and unrepentant sand. 172 00:12:43.740 --> 00:12:48.860 Yeah, when they're their lives are spiritually deficient, like they are not connected 173 00:12:48.899 --> 00:12:52.340 to the true vine, sometimes people overcompensate, yeah, and they'll give themselves 174 00:12:52.419 --> 00:12:58.299 to ministry, yeah, or to work or whatever, and that will actually 175 00:12:58.769 --> 00:13:03.009 be a downfall to the ministry itself. It'll make the Lord look bad and'll 176 00:13:03.049 --> 00:13:07.330 make the ministry look bad. So just to say there are things that disqualify 177 00:13:07.450 --> 00:13:11.889 you from ministry. If you're asking what could disqualify you from ministry, Here's 178 00:13:11.929 --> 00:13:13.240 here are some of the things we have set. We have a list of 179 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.639 some things. Yet what are those? So, first and foremost is unrepentant 180 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.240 sin. Yeah, that's a bad one. Yeah, so if you're living 181 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:22.879 a lifestyle of unrepentant sin, right, you're living with your boyfriend and your 182 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:28.029 girlfriend having sex outside of marriage. Yeah, consistent unrepentant sin. Yeah, 183 00:13:28.149 --> 00:13:31.149 I mean that will disqualify you from ministry. You can't give what you don't 184 00:13:31.149 --> 00:13:33.190 have. And you're talking. Yeah, and I don't think that this is 185 00:13:33.269 --> 00:13:37.309 probably the case. I don't have anyone in mind what I'm thinking about this, 186 00:13:37.549 --> 00:13:39.149 but you know, if you're on the sidewalk trying to minister to people 187 00:13:39.789 --> 00:13:43.820 that are about to kill their children because most of them have had sex outside 188 00:13:43.860 --> 00:13:46.820 of marriage, and you're doing that you yourself, it's like yeah, you, 189 00:13:48.019 --> 00:13:50.259 you are in that category of judge. Not Less you be judged. 190 00:13:50.299 --> 00:13:52.340 That's right, for in the same measure, the use to judge will be 191 00:13:52.379 --> 00:13:56.090 measured back to you. That goes on. That scripture talks about removing the 192 00:13:56.289 --> 00:14:00.049 plank from your eyes so that you can help someone else see the speck in 193 00:14:00.090 --> 00:14:03.409 their own eye. Right, so the implication here is that God needs to 194 00:14:03.450 --> 00:14:05.889 remove that plank. Unrepentant sin is like a big plank in your eye. 195 00:14:07.129 --> 00:14:13.679 Yeah, and it just opens the ministry up to so much damage as that 196 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:18.240 hypocrisy is exposed. And God says all evil will be brought to light. 197 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:22.879 Yeah, at some point it will be brought to like careful, your sin 198 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:26.830 will find you out. That's right, and and our ministry is such a 199 00:14:26.990 --> 00:14:30.269 valuable and important one and it would be awful. Well, that's true. 200 00:14:30.269 --> 00:14:33.149 I think you know all. Yes, absolutely. So you want to be 201 00:14:33.230 --> 00:14:39.740 really careful, do not be in sin, in unrepentant sin, ongoing on 202 00:14:39.059 --> 00:14:43.139 repentance, and that you need to step away if that's the case, and 203 00:14:43.340 --> 00:14:46.580 deal with that. Yeah, first let yeah, and the next thing. 204 00:14:46.700 --> 00:14:52.049 And these this is not this is no by no means like an exhaustive list, 205 00:14:52.210 --> 00:14:54.929 right, but these are just some of the things that kind of came 206 00:14:56.009 --> 00:14:58.850 to mind as we're thinking through this. So unrepented sin a rebellious heart. 207 00:14:58.889 --> 00:15:05.450 Yeah, and of course a rebellious heart is unrepented sin against the Lord First 208 00:15:05.490 --> 00:15:09.159 and foremost. I mean the Bible says rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, 209 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:13.519 and witchcraft is relying on the principles of the world and the things of 210 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.120 the world rather than the Lord. Yeah, right, and so a rebellious 211 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.720 heart, first and foremost is rebellious against the Lord, but also rebellious against 212 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:22.269 leadership. Yeah, I was just going to say that. So could you 213 00:15:22.470 --> 00:15:28.429 see that in as maybe there's new people coming on and someone that maybe you're 214 00:15:28.470 --> 00:15:33.269 trying to guide and lead and they just won't take your leadership? That, 215 00:15:33.590 --> 00:15:37.179 to me is a rebellious heart. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, 216 00:15:37.299 --> 00:15:41.139 one of the things we look out for with volunteers here, yeah, and 217 00:15:41.500 --> 00:15:46.139 with siwalt missionaries, is their connection to a local church. Yeah, and 218 00:15:46.299 --> 00:15:48.700 now I don't mean to throw everyone under the bus. I don't mean to 219 00:15:48.740 --> 00:15:52.769 put everyone in the same category, because I know there are some people that 220 00:15:52.809 --> 00:15:56.649 are not part of a local church because maybe they just moved or maybe there 221 00:15:56.730 --> 00:15:58.570 is some deep wounds it need to be healed or whatever. But for the 222 00:15:58.690 --> 00:16:03.570 most part, what I've seen for people that are not part of a local 223 00:16:03.649 --> 00:16:06.320 church where? I'll back up for a second. If I see people who 224 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:10.639 I Christians, who I see with a rebellious heart, yeah, with an 225 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:15.080 unwillingness to submit to lead your ship, I can almost guarantee you they're not 226 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:18.710 a part of a local church. Yeah, because they're not willing to submit 227 00:16:18.750 --> 00:16:22.350 themselves to the leadership of a local church. They've got their own ideas, 228 00:16:22.710 --> 00:16:26.750 they've got their own agenda and of course they always slap God's approval on it. 229 00:16:26.909 --> 00:16:29.830 Their agenda, according to them, as always, God's agenda. Right, 230 00:16:30.230 --> 00:16:33.779 but when the reality really is God's agenda is I will build my church. 231 00:16:33.980 --> 00:16:37.179 Like, if you want to be on board with what God's doing, 232 00:16:37.460 --> 00:16:41.299 yeah, it's not building your ministry, Right. God's doing what he's been 233 00:16:41.340 --> 00:16:45.100 doing for about two thousand years, a little over twozero years, which is 234 00:16:45.179 --> 00:16:48.450 what Jesus said he would do on the profession of Peter. I will build 235 00:16:48.529 --> 00:16:52.090 my church. That's what Jesus is doing, and if you're not on board 236 00:16:52.090 --> 00:16:53.809 with that, you're not on board with what the Lord is doing. Yeah. 237 00:16:55.169 --> 00:16:59.490 So, aside from all you know, all this, these reasons why 238 00:16:59.610 --> 00:17:00.960 people are not a part of a local church, I think you can boil 239 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.720 it down to, in a lot of ways, rebellious heart. Yeah, 240 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:07.720 they're not willing to submit themselves a leadership. Yeah, I agree with that. 241 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:12.319 And of course we all have a rebellious heart, probably at times. 242 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:15.789 So this is this is more kind of, I think, an attitude and 243 00:17:15.910 --> 00:17:19.789 ongoing at it. Persistent, no, up, persisted, yes, yeah, 244 00:17:19.869 --> 00:17:23.390 willingness to yield. I would say a rebellious heart manifest itself in an 245 00:17:23.430 --> 00:17:29.869 unwillingness to yield to leadership. Right, yeah, yeah, so, and 246 00:17:30.059 --> 00:17:33.740 certainly in our ministry that that also includes that being a part of a local 247 00:17:33.819 --> 00:17:37.299 church. That that would disqualify someone if they're not a part of a local 248 00:17:37.339 --> 00:17:41.500 church, unless there's some extenuating circumstance. Yeah, but now I think we 249 00:17:41.579 --> 00:17:45.329 can get into because some of the other points that we have here kind of 250 00:17:45.369 --> 00:17:48.130 along the same lines of that. We've already talked about, right, ongoing 251 00:17:48.289 --> 00:17:52.930 sin. So struggles with sin are always disqualifying factors. And that does not 252 00:17:53.210 --> 00:17:57.759 mean the yeah, because you stumble, you the Bible says we all stumble 253 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:03.640 in various ways. There are temptations that we fall into from time to time. 254 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.960 There are things that we give ourselves to that we ought not that would 255 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:11.559 repent of. But I think that point of unrepentant sin, things that you're 256 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:15.750 not willing to acknowledge your sin, disagreement with God's word, like they're claim 257 00:18:15.869 --> 00:18:21.869 they are plane truths in scripture. Yeah, and if you've just written those 258 00:18:21.950 --> 00:18:25.950 truths off and because you want God stamp of approval on your lifestyle and your 259 00:18:26.069 --> 00:18:30.660 sin or whatever it is, God's not into that and that disqualifies you from 260 00:18:30.700 --> 00:18:33.980 ministry. Right, because it right. Remember, ministry is not about you. 261 00:18:36.019 --> 00:18:38.980 Ministry is about the Lord. The same root word of the word from 262 00:18:40.059 --> 00:18:45.289 Ministry is Actually Service or servant. A minister is a servant, servant of 263 00:18:45.369 --> 00:18:48.529 WHO? Well, first and foremost of the Lord. Right. Yeah, 264 00:18:49.089 --> 00:18:52.730 so there has to be an agreement with with what he says, with his 265 00:18:52.890 --> 00:18:55.759 word, with what he says is right and what he says is wrong, 266 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:00.359 in order for you to be in ministry. Yeah. Now, often the 267 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:07.200 result of these issues and unrepentant heart or rebellious, hard ongoing sin, hypocrisy, 268 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:14.910 the result can and usually at some point, is attack. I mean 269 00:19:14.950 --> 00:19:19.069 there or there. There are consequences. There are often evil, bad consequences. 270 00:19:19.990 --> 00:19:27.220 But you could not be in sin and still when working in ministry have 271 00:19:29.099 --> 00:19:33.259 attacks? Yeah, in your life, spiritual warfare, seatanic attacks. Yeah, 272 00:19:33.460 --> 00:19:40.529 and I think an important question is we're exploring this topic, is if 273 00:19:40.650 --> 00:19:45.730 you're feeling this, if your life is a mess. Well, I think 274 00:19:45.809 --> 00:19:48.049 one of the first things you have to figure out. Well, which one 275 00:19:48.130 --> 00:19:53.079 of those is, if either, yeah, is making your life a mass? 276 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:59.519 Yeah, I think there's a couple of things. Because our biggest enemy 277 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:02.799 first and foremost is ourselves. Right, the Devil's not our biggest enemy, 278 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:06.640 we are our biggest enemy. Yeah, and so when we're dealing with spiritual 279 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:10.549 attacks, we're dealing with a life that's in chaos and all of us go 280 00:20:10.750 --> 00:20:15.230 through kind of the the roller coaster of life. Stuff happens, family stuff, 281 00:20:15.309 --> 00:20:18.710 physical issues come up and all of that. Yeah, but I still 282 00:20:18.750 --> 00:20:23.019 think it's wisdom if we come under some spiritual attack, things are just abnormal 283 00:20:23.259 --> 00:20:29.059 in our lives. We we do need to assess ourselves first. I think 284 00:20:29.140 --> 00:20:33.220 some self examination says that if you judge yourself, you'll not be judged of 285 00:20:33.299 --> 00:20:37.769 God. Paul is actually talking to that passage about those who take a communion 286 00:20:37.769 --> 00:20:41.170 and an unworthy manner. And if we judge ourselves, will not be judged 287 00:20:41.250 --> 00:20:44.569 of God right. We need to make an honest assessment of ourselves. And 288 00:20:44.609 --> 00:20:48.410 so if some spiritual attack comes against me, the first thing I'm going to 289 00:20:48.529 --> 00:20:51.920 think is, okay, am I doing something wrong? And now I'm not 290 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:55.359 going to say I'm doing something wrong. So I want you guys to understand 291 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:59.119 that. Like, if a spiritual attack comes against you, don't immediately accuse 292 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:03.200 yourself, nor should you accuse other it's like job's friends did. Yeah, 293 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:07.269 that told him you're suffering because you're doing something wrong. No, that that 294 00:21:07.589 --> 00:21:11.109 is not necessarily true. It wasn't true in job's case, and that's why 295 00:21:11.150 --> 00:21:14.150 it's important. Again, if an attack is coming against you, I think 296 00:21:14.190 --> 00:21:17.230 it's important for you to ask yourself, okay, am I doing something wrong, 297 00:21:17.230 --> 00:21:18.380 rather than saying now I'm doing something wrong. That's why this come. 298 00:21:18.500 --> 00:21:22.220 Yeah, yeah, but I think the first thing is to bring it before 299 00:21:22.220 --> 00:21:26.339 the Lord. Yeah, and then the next thing, and this is why 300 00:21:26.539 --> 00:21:30.740 connection to a local church is so vital, so important. I mean a 301 00:21:30.779 --> 00:21:33.369 connection to a local church. I don't just mean attending church on Sunday for 302 00:21:33.490 --> 00:21:37.809 an hour and a half or two hours. I mean a connection to your 303 00:21:37.849 --> 00:21:41.089 local church where you have a relationship with the leadership, and I know some 304 00:21:41.250 --> 00:21:45.970 folks are parts really big churches and I get that, but there are people 305 00:21:45.049 --> 00:21:48.200 in leadership positions in those really big churches that you can get close to. 306 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.319 There are people in those churches, small groups and things like that you can 307 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:56.960 get close to. And if you don't, if that's not possible, I'm 308 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:00.480 telling you you need to find a connection where you can be close to people. 309 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:03.470 That way they can really tell you if there's a spiritual attack coming. 310 00:22:03.869 --> 00:22:07.470 People that know you can say, you know what, you're a woman of 311 00:22:07.589 --> 00:22:11.190 God, you're walking with the Lord. I don't see the deficiencies that you 312 00:22:11.309 --> 00:22:15.470 think might be there, or I do see the deficiencies, and a lot 313 00:22:15.509 --> 00:22:19.740 of times really close friends who are walking with the Lord can tell you these 314 00:22:19.779 --> 00:22:23.420 things before the spiritual attacks come. And that's what, again, why it's 315 00:22:23.460 --> 00:22:27.259 important to have an account accountability person that you're meeting with on a regular basis, 316 00:22:27.660 --> 00:22:30.970 because they can foresee some of this stuff and they can show you where 317 00:22:32.009 --> 00:22:34.250 your deficiencies are and where you might be slacking or where you might be, 318 00:22:36.529 --> 00:22:38.890 you know, not being serious way. That the way that you need to 319 00:22:38.930 --> 00:22:44.210 be or where you're serious with the Lord. But there's a tax coming because 320 00:22:44.250 --> 00:22:47.160 you're doing the right thing. Yeah, and see, that's another thing. 321 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:49.920 And so how do you discern? I mean that is important. We need 322 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:53.599 to know how to discern, because that's a very important thing to discern. 323 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:59.750 Well, a lot of the discernment comes from being in the word of God. 324 00:23:00.269 --> 00:23:03.470 Yes, kind of going back to our our initial conversation about the things 325 00:23:03.549 --> 00:23:08.309 that do disqualify you, being in the word of God and knowing the things 326 00:23:08.349 --> 00:23:11.150 that God approves of and the things that God does not approve of. He 327 00:23:11.509 --> 00:23:15.980 is a very easy way, yeah, to tell. Okay, am I 328 00:23:15.019 --> 00:23:18.940 under attack because I've opened up a door to the enemy to attack me? 329 00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:22.059 Right? Well, am I doing the things that God says I shouldn't be 330 00:23:22.099 --> 00:23:23.740 doing? Well, then that's an indicator. But if you're not, you 331 00:23:23.859 --> 00:23:26.529 know the word of God and you know that you're before the Lord and you're 332 00:23:26.569 --> 00:23:30.650 right with God in every area, then I would say you can immediately assume 333 00:23:32.170 --> 00:23:34.250 that it's attack right from the devil. It's an attack that's come against you 334 00:23:34.369 --> 00:23:38.529 because you're you're over the target, and this ministry is one of those. 335 00:23:38.730 --> 00:23:44.599 Like we've gotten a lot of opposition in the past. You know, really 336 00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:48.119 the past three four years we've had a lot of probsions, passion, but 337 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:52.119 in the past year we've really had some intense opposition. Yeah, to us 338 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:56.990 on the sidewalk. Yeah, and just in general and ministry. And we've 339 00:23:57.230 --> 00:24:02.069 done the self examination. Right, I have, like my doing things I 340 00:24:02.150 --> 00:24:04.109 ought not and I'm no, no, okay, and I have people around 341 00:24:04.150 --> 00:24:07.950 me that I can ask these questions who they'll be honest with me. Yeah, 342 00:24:07.430 --> 00:24:11.339 and you know, even in Ministry, I ask that question even in 343 00:24:11.779 --> 00:24:14.420 you know, you're talking, I think, more personally in your personal life. 344 00:24:14.420 --> 00:24:18.180 Yeah, but even in looking at I am I doing something in ministry 345 00:24:18.700 --> 00:24:22.380 that maybe is not the way God would have us? Wouldn't be do any 346 00:24:22.460 --> 00:24:25.930 talking along those terms to yeah, okay. And so if you've got people 347 00:24:25.970 --> 00:24:27.970 that are able to speak into your life, a were speaking to your ministry. 348 00:24:29.089 --> 00:24:32.089 Yeah, you know, a lot of times the opposition is an indicator 349 00:24:32.130 --> 00:24:34.890 that you're doing something right. Yeah. Actually, and if we allow the 350 00:24:36.089 --> 00:24:40.200 devil with his deception, because that's what he does, he deceives and he 351 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:45.519 accuses, to shift it around to where we're accusing ourselves we're really not involved 352 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:49.359 in sin and rebellion or whatever, and we allow we take the bait of 353 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:55.589 Satan and we just kind of are offended even with ourselves. Yeah, we 354 00:24:55.710 --> 00:24:59.309 can really this thing can really be turned upside down because again, a lot 355 00:24:59.309 --> 00:25:03.109 of times the indicator that you're doing the right thing is it you're getting opposition. 356 00:25:03.230 --> 00:25:07.619 Right, if you're not getting opposition, that's like what we talk about 357 00:25:07.700 --> 00:25:11.460 with our sidewalk counselors and our subwalk missionaries. If people are angry with you, 358 00:25:11.579 --> 00:25:14.339 if people, human beings that you're talking to, are angry with you, 359 00:25:14.900 --> 00:25:18.059 that's not always a bad thing, right. It's better for them to 360 00:25:18.099 --> 00:25:21.490 be angry with you because you know you're hitting the mark right, you're touching 361 00:25:21.529 --> 00:25:25.849 on something. Now, if you're just being purposefully belligerent and just mean to 362 00:25:25.970 --> 00:25:29.730 them, obviously that's an issue, but if you're speaking along biblical line, 363 00:25:29.809 --> 00:25:32.809 speaking the truth, and people are angry with you, you're touching the mark 364 00:25:32.890 --> 00:25:36.359 right. Same Way, when you're out there on the sidewalk, you're doing 365 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:41.279 ministry and you're getting opposition from the devil, you're getting I mean, who 366 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:44.640 knows? These attacks can come physically, they can come mentally, then come 367 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:48.279 things in your family, stuff like that. I think a lot of times 368 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.109 you're doing the assessment of like okay, I'm walking with God, I'm doing 369 00:25:52.190 --> 00:25:56.630 the right things. This is coming because I'm hitting the mark, and this 370 00:25:56.630 --> 00:26:02.150 is to me and encouragement that the devil ain't happy with what I'm doing right. 371 00:26:02.390 --> 00:26:07.299 And and that then leads to, you know, the the question. 372 00:26:07.059 --> 00:26:11.220 Well, what do I do with that? What if I am doing everything 373 00:26:11.299 --> 00:26:17.299 right? Yeah, and yet my family is under horrific attack. If you 374 00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:22.849 give into that and decide that I have to leave, it's too much, 375 00:26:22.210 --> 00:26:27.009 and sometimes I think we've all been there where it's really close to too much. 376 00:26:27.490 --> 00:26:32.809 But if we leave the danger as we have given in to Satan. 377 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:36.839 We've given him what he wanted. He has forced us out. Yeah, 378 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:42.200 and and so that's, I think, an important thing for us to think 379 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.680 about. I think we're going to kind of talk about that a little bit 380 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.390 more later, but just keep it in the back of your mind. You 381 00:26:48.509 --> 00:26:52.349 know about about that question. How do we know when it's time to just 382 00:26:52.869 --> 00:26:56.789 take a break? Are we giving into Satan or is is it really necessary, 383 00:26:56.829 --> 00:27:02.380 yeah, right now, that that we someone step back? Yeah, 384 00:27:02.819 --> 00:27:07.660 but one of the things in in our ministry, and as I was reading 385 00:27:07.740 --> 00:27:11.980 through and kind of preparing for this, I read this verse First Corinthian six 386 00:27:11.019 --> 00:27:15.180 hundred and eighteen. Okay, you want to read that? Do you have 387 00:27:15.259 --> 00:27:18.690 that? That verse there? Yeah, fleet immorality. Every other sin that 388 00:27:18.769 --> 00:27:22.930 a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his 389 00:27:22.970 --> 00:27:26.089 own body. And so this is talking about sexual sand, right. Yeah, 390 00:27:26.289 --> 00:27:32.160 really be a detriment to ministry, especially our ministry. Yeah, because 391 00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:36.319 this is what so many of I mean it's the cause of abortion. Ninety 392 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:41.160 nine percent of the time probably is because of sexual sin. So if that 393 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:49.950 is something that we are struggling with, that's a real problem, particularly in 394 00:27:51.029 --> 00:27:55.509 abortion ministry, and it sounds like of all the sense that we could be 395 00:27:55.589 --> 00:28:00.059 involved in, that one is maybe a one of the great just danger said, 396 00:28:00.099 --> 00:28:03.259 that's what I'm reading in the in that person. It comes to mind 397 00:28:03.339 --> 00:28:06.660 for me because I think this could be broadened. The conversation that we're talking 398 00:28:06.700 --> 00:28:11.779 about what disqualifies someone from ministry can be broadened beyond our context, which is 399 00:28:11.099 --> 00:28:15.130 obviously being out of an abortion center. But I think about men and women 400 00:28:15.210 --> 00:28:18.849 of God who I think a lot of us have looked up to. I'm 401 00:28:18.849 --> 00:28:22.890 not going to name any names, but you know there's been some recent folks 402 00:28:22.970 --> 00:28:26.170 that I yeah, find out about they fell into sexual sin and all that, 403 00:28:26.730 --> 00:28:30.599 and just the detriment that that causes not only to the people that, 404 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:33.839 you know, counted, they are directly minister into, but the people who 405 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:40.480 have taken their influence and have taken, you know, their teachings and a 406 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:42.150 that stuff. And it's like, man, it just really disheartening. In 407 00:28:42.309 --> 00:28:47.549 more than anything, it dishonors God. And again I think that needs to 408 00:28:47.589 --> 00:28:52.230 be the understanding that the ministry that we're called to service to God. Yeah, 409 00:28:52.589 --> 00:28:59.099 and so this, this idea or this charge actually the flee immorality, 410 00:28:59.339 --> 00:29:03.740 and especially sexual immorality. Yeah, is just that. This is this is 411 00:29:03.779 --> 00:29:10.210 a constant and you look throughout the entire scripture you'll see this is a constant 412 00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:14.609 issue and a constant struggle that people have. Yeah, I mean you think 413 00:29:14.609 --> 00:29:18.289 of King David Right, fallen into sexual sin. Look Bathsheba. Yeah, 414 00:29:18.369 --> 00:29:21.609 and it ships wrecks his family in the whole right, know, whole ministry 415 00:29:21.609 --> 00:29:25.359 he's called to. Now God still uses him, but not until he repents. 416 00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:27.240 Yeah, right, and so God confronts him in his sin and he 417 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:33.720 repents. Yeah, but persistent, unrepentant sin along those lines is really, 418 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.829 really, really destructive. And if it's happening to a leader then, like 419 00:29:38.029 --> 00:29:41.910 you said, the people that have followed that leader, that have looked up 420 00:29:41.950 --> 00:29:47.190 to that leader, it can be very faith shattering. Yeah, because you 421 00:29:47.269 --> 00:29:51.750 wonder, well, what else have they taught me or said? That was 422 00:29:51.829 --> 00:29:56.500 a hypocritical lie. They can't even live that life and yet they're trying to 423 00:29:56.539 --> 00:30:00.059 teach it to me. So I just want to throw that out there, 424 00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:03.380 that that's a sin that be on a shadow of a doubt, needs to 425 00:30:03.539 --> 00:30:08.450 be strongly dealt with for you to be in ministry. So kind of then 426 00:30:08.450 --> 00:30:11.930 the flip side. Well, what qualifies us? What are we looking for? 427 00:30:12.250 --> 00:30:17.609 That that that qualifies us for Ministry? If it's not our own strength, 428 00:30:17.650 --> 00:30:19.690 and we certainly know we shouldn't be in sin. But what, what 429 00:30:19.930 --> 00:30:26.240 things should we have as a part of our character? Yeah, well, 430 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:30.319 some of the things you have here and as always, you've written a wonderful 431 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.480 article about this, so it's going to be posted. Yeah, we will 432 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.470 be able to. So we're kind of using that as a framework and some 433 00:30:37.589 --> 00:30:41.869 of the things you named here are absolutely crucial to being qualified for Ministry and 434 00:30:41.910 --> 00:30:45.470 we actually talked about that in very beginning. If you want to be qualified 435 00:30:45.509 --> 00:30:48.630 for ministry, you've got to have fear and much trembling. You've got to 436 00:30:48.670 --> 00:30:52.579 have weakness, fear and much trembling. Right, if you're going to be 437 00:30:52.579 --> 00:30:56.059 qualified with think right about with the world with thin yeah, them broken and 438 00:30:56.140 --> 00:31:00.980 contrite spirit says contrition before the Lord. You know, I would say, 439 00:31:02.779 --> 00:31:07.130 first and foremost the thing that qualifies you for Ministry, because you've got to 440 00:31:07.210 --> 00:31:10.730 have had an experience with the Lord. Well, yeah, that's primary funds. 441 00:31:10.769 --> 00:31:12.650 Got To be born of the spirit. Yeah, Jesus said that which 442 00:31:12.650 --> 00:31:17.529 is born of the flesh is death, that which is born of the spirit 443 00:31:17.569 --> 00:31:19.839 produces life. Right, so we've got to be born of the spirit. 444 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:25.240 But even beyond that, I mean even people that are born of the spirit 445 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:30.680 can deal with pride and arrogance. Yeah, and self sufficiency. Yeah, 446 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.630 and so a broken and contrite spirit will help you get rid of that, 447 00:31:33.750 --> 00:31:37.829 help you crucify this idea of self sufficiency. Right. Yeah, that's man 448 00:31:37.990 --> 00:31:41.910 to me. That's like a huge danger for any ministry. As I mentioned 449 00:31:41.950 --> 00:31:45.630 earlier, if I see people that I see you're like to self sufficient. 450 00:31:45.750 --> 00:31:49.900 I don't mean to say that they're not proficient, right, they're not smart 451 00:31:49.980 --> 00:31:53.460 people, that can do certain things and have certain abilities and all of that, 452 00:31:53.660 --> 00:31:56.619 and they should be confident. Yeah, but where is their confidence? 453 00:31:56.660 --> 00:32:00.730 Exactly? Yeah, and so our confidence has to be not in our own 454 00:32:00.730 --> 00:32:06.690 abilities, although you know, you see, you see through scripture. I 455 00:32:06.730 --> 00:32:08.849 think you see a man like King David, for example, who I think 456 00:32:09.009 --> 00:32:14.769 was pretty confident in his abilities as a warrior. But where did you start? 457 00:32:15.250 --> 00:32:19.400 He started defeating Goliath, like probably the biggest enemy he's ever faced. 458 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.440 Biggest single enemies ever faced Goliath. He starts with a sling in a stone. 459 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.880 Right, so he has that encounter with the Lord. In a sense, 460 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:29.799 you'll say the Goliath experience was the experience where the Goliath. And again, 461 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:34.670 who's the biggest enemy? Will David's biggest enemy was David. And who's 462 00:32:34.670 --> 00:32:37.950 our biggest enemy? It's ourselves. And when you become a Christian, that 463 00:32:37.190 --> 00:32:42.589 Goliath you in your life, the biggest idol that you have is yourself. 464 00:32:43.430 --> 00:32:46.259 God slays that thing by God's power. That thing is slay right. Any 465 00:32:46.420 --> 00:32:51.980 slays it with the tools that David already knew how to use. It wasn't 466 00:32:52.019 --> 00:32:57.539 like David had to acquire any great new set of skills. The skills were 467 00:32:57.579 --> 00:33:00.730 already in place for what God was calling him to do. But he may 468 00:33:00.809 --> 00:33:05.289 not have trusted that. But in David's case he did. They tried to 469 00:33:05.329 --> 00:33:07.089 put armor on him. Said No, I can I'm not used to this. 470 00:33:07.329 --> 00:33:10.690 I'm going to use what I've always used and in God's power, I'm 471 00:33:10.690 --> 00:33:14.559 going to go forth and slay that giant. I think that's a great lesson 472 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.240 problems us. David goes on, I think, with confidence, and his 473 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.119 confidence seemed to always be in the Lord, and that's kind of where I'm 474 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.480 going with this, is that, yes, we need to have confidence, 475 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:28.630 but we need to have confidence in the Lord and not in the flesh y. 476 00:33:29.910 --> 00:33:32.990 So that takes brokenness, it takes contrition, it takes a reliance on 477 00:33:34.069 --> 00:33:37.950 the Lord, it takes again that John Fifteen dynamic where he is the vine 478 00:33:37.990 --> 00:33:40.779 and we are the branches. When we bear fruit, yes, we can 479 00:33:40.819 --> 00:33:46.220 be confident as a branch that we can bear fruit, but our confidence doesn't 480 00:33:46.220 --> 00:33:49.980 come from the fact that we're a branch, it comes from the fact that 481 00:33:50.059 --> 00:33:52.579 we're connected to the vine. Yeah, because Jesus and that passage just talking 482 00:33:52.579 --> 00:33:54.259 about. You know, what does it? What does it branch do if 483 00:33:54.259 --> 00:33:58.289 it's not attached to the vine, it withers. Right, they throw them 484 00:33:58.329 --> 00:34:00.289 in the fire. Yeah, because they can't even can't even bear leaves, 485 00:34:00.329 --> 00:34:04.250 much less fruit, to not connected to the vine. Yeah, you can 486 00:34:04.289 --> 00:34:07.769 the confidence from the branches to being connected to the vine. Yeah. And 487 00:34:07.890 --> 00:34:13.360 then you have here importance of a heart incline to God. Yeah, our 488 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.599 heart is toward the Lord. The same dynamic is that we trust in the 489 00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:21.800 Lord. My confidence is not in the flesh. You, David Rise, 490 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:25.190 as the PSALMIST. Some trust in chariots and some in horses. Yeah, 491 00:34:25.750 --> 00:34:29.389 but I will trust in the Lord. Yeah, right. It's not in 492 00:34:29.550 --> 00:34:31.269 armies, it's not in chariots, it's not in horses, it's not in 493 00:34:31.630 --> 00:34:36.269 all these other things that the world has to offer. Right, though, 494 00:34:36.309 --> 00:34:39.619 God can use some of those things. Certainly in David's battles, God use 495 00:34:39.699 --> 00:34:44.059 chariots and horses, but his trust, his confidence, was not there. 496 00:34:44.500 --> 00:34:46.940 It's in the Lord's like you know, we have certain skills, you know, 497 00:34:47.019 --> 00:34:52.139 ability to speak and stuff like that, and certainly we can, we 498 00:34:52.260 --> 00:34:55.329 can have a certain amount of amount of confidence in that, in that ability, 499 00:34:55.769 --> 00:35:00.730 but only as it's surrendered to the Lord, Right, yeah. And 500 00:35:00.889 --> 00:35:05.449 so a heart of surrender to the Lord qualifies US Right for Ministry. Yeah, 501 00:35:05.489 --> 00:35:09.760 yeah, and sometimes, in fact, our skills sets, our strengths 502 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.039 look like it's very well suited to ministry and we find out, Oh man, 503 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:22.670 these people that are so selfsufficient and hardhearted really don't work out well. 504 00:35:23.110 --> 00:35:28.909 And then, on the other hand, sometimes there's people they the the least 505 00:35:29.070 --> 00:35:31.309 likely person, you think, to succeed. I'm thinking of one of our 506 00:35:31.349 --> 00:35:37.019 counselors who is just so shy, so quiet, so tiny. By all 507 00:35:37.260 --> 00:35:45.340 external appearances, this is a timid little mouse that just there's no way she's 508 00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:50.929 going to withstand the intensity of the battle. is how I felt when I 509 00:35:51.050 --> 00:35:53.449 first saw her show up. I thought, oh no, she is gonna 510 00:35:53.489 --> 00:36:00.650 be eating alive, she is such an affective counselor. And so I think 511 00:36:00.690 --> 00:36:04.090 that's kind of one of the other qualifiers for us. Right, it's not 512 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:08.320 how we look, she's not the external appearance. Yeah, it's our inward 513 00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:13.320 character and it's our connection to the Lord. Right, right. Yeah, 514 00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:20.710 so I think this biblical understanding is an important qualifier. That John Chapter Fifteen. 515 00:36:21.070 --> 00:36:23.150 Man, I could preach that all day long. Yeah, every single 516 00:36:23.389 --> 00:36:27.630 podcast we've done lately you've been able to work that in going to work it 517 00:36:27.710 --> 00:36:31.150 in because it's a it's a it's a reality that I've known in my life 518 00:36:31.269 --> 00:36:36.619 that I mean really seriously. Apart from him, yeah, I can do 519 00:36:36.780 --> 00:36:39.139 anything. Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't mean we're not going to struggle. 520 00:36:39.340 --> 00:36:43.579 One of my our churches, I'm not sure if that's still what they say, 521 00:36:43.659 --> 00:36:47.530 but they part of our, I don't know, founding statement is that 522 00:36:47.690 --> 00:36:53.369 we struggle go well with Christ, and so we're we may very well still 523 00:36:53.409 --> 00:37:00.050 struggle, but it's important. Are we struggling? Well, yeah, means 524 00:37:00.369 --> 00:37:06.800 back to your point. Are you struggling with God as your guide in your 525 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.199 focus? Are Are you struggling outside of his will? Yeah, which case 526 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:15.360 things need to change. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I think you know 527 00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.230 this point. I think we've touched on some of these and you guys can 528 00:37:17.469 --> 00:37:22.150 take advantage of the article that will put out on the sidewalks for life website. 529 00:37:22.190 --> 00:37:23.429 That, I think will help you. But I do want to jump 530 00:37:23.510 --> 00:37:29.550 into the safeguards in this yeah, that's really important and I think like I 531 00:37:29.630 --> 00:37:32.980 will preach this just like I'll preach John Chapter Fifteen. Yeah, accountability. 532 00:37:34.219 --> 00:37:37.420 Right, if you talk about safeguards, and we've talked about some of the 533 00:37:37.460 --> 00:37:42.500 things that will disqualify you from ministry. We've talked about what qualifies you for 534 00:37:42.619 --> 00:37:46.250 Ministry. contrite heart before the Lord. Yeah, but as far as safeguards 535 00:37:46.849 --> 00:37:52.849 go to safeguard against those things that might disqualify you, accountability is like like 536 00:37:52.050 --> 00:37:57.170 you got to have it. Yeah, I would say especially for men, 537 00:37:57.329 --> 00:38:01.159 but I'll say especially for women to I'd say for men, because for everybody, 538 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:06.559 especially for everybody, but I say for men in particular because it seems 539 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:10.079 that men are more those that struggle with sexual sin. Yeah, and the 540 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:14.949 temptation to look at garbage on the Internet that you should be looking at, 541 00:38:15.070 --> 00:38:19.789 which ultimately you sin is never satisfied and in light the grave is never satisfied. 542 00:38:19.909 --> 00:38:22.909 Right, it's always going to take more from you than initially was asked. 543 00:38:22.949 --> 00:38:25.789 Right, take you further than you initially thought you would go. Yeah, 544 00:38:25.829 --> 00:38:29.739 and so people don't start out, you know, with fullball and adultery. 545 00:38:29.780 --> 00:38:31.980 They start out dabbling a pornography and all that, that kind of garbage. 546 00:38:32.579 --> 00:38:36.739 If you don't have accountability, if you don't have somebody in your life, 547 00:38:36.739 --> 00:38:39.780 or somebody's in your life that, if they see something's off, can 548 00:38:39.820 --> 00:38:44.090 ask you those questions. or I would say somebody that you meet with on 549 00:38:44.130 --> 00:38:49.010 a regular basis, they ask you the tough questions. Are you keeping what 550 00:38:49.090 --> 00:38:51.650 you're looking at pure? Are you, I know one of the things for 551 00:38:51.769 --> 00:38:52.889 me is, are you spending time with your family? Because that could be 552 00:38:53.050 --> 00:38:58.079 for somebody who's driven, who wants to you just be involved in ministry and 553 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:00.000 do what God's called him to do. We can, we can forget our 554 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.760 families. Yeah, kind of leave them behind. That's something I need to 555 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:06.639 be held accountable for. My spending time with my family. Yeah, and 556 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.349 so my accountability. Yeah, will ask me the questions. Are you looking 557 00:39:09.349 --> 00:39:13.590 at what's pure? Are you spending time with your family? And even he 558 00:39:13.710 --> 00:39:17.349 goes to me accountable in this area to is are you spending time disconnected from 559 00:39:17.389 --> 00:39:21.110 ministry? Yeah, there are times, you know, I have a Sabbath 560 00:39:21.150 --> 00:39:24.340 Day that I take off, that I disconnect best I can for ministry, 561 00:39:24.820 --> 00:39:29.179 and when I don't do that consistently, I know it, yeah, catches 562 00:39:29.260 --> 00:39:34.579 up with yeah, and you know what's really important when not only accountability, 563 00:39:34.619 --> 00:39:37.340 but what goes hand in hand in that that you have an accountability to be 564 00:39:37.730 --> 00:39:43.409 ability partner partners, but that you also are committed to being honest with them, 565 00:39:43.690 --> 00:39:46.170 because it doesn't matter how many accountability people who you have, if you're 566 00:39:46.250 --> 00:39:52.360 not being honest, you're still continuing down that destructive silence path and nothing's going 567 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.280 to change you are. So said, there's both. You have to have 568 00:39:55.400 --> 00:40:00.840 that person that you can truly listen to him be accountable to, but then 569 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:04.400 you are willing to truly bear your heart and be honest in what's going on 570 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.829 in your life, and I think that's really hard for some people. Yeah, 571 00:40:07.949 --> 00:40:10.989 absolutely, you know, I would say get somebody you know, if 572 00:40:12.030 --> 00:40:15.190 you don't already have accountability partner, than somebody that hold you accountable. Yeah, 573 00:40:15.349 --> 00:40:19.510 then, and you're looking like praying through who that might be. I 574 00:40:19.550 --> 00:40:22.659 would always encourage it to be an older person in the Lord, Somebody has 575 00:40:22.699 --> 00:40:24.420 been walking with God for longer than you have. Yeah, somebody it's a 576 00:40:24.460 --> 00:40:29.059 little older than you. Yeah, I can't make that happen. God'll bring 577 00:40:29.139 --> 00:40:31.980 somebody across your radar. Pray for that. Did it. Yeah, and 578 00:40:32.139 --> 00:40:37.969 also somebody who's you know's going to get get a little rough, like hey, 579 00:40:37.409 --> 00:40:40.329 they're going to say this is wrong and not be afraid. You're not 580 00:40:40.369 --> 00:40:44.289 going to fear your friend, the lost friendship or whatever they're just going to 581 00:40:44.329 --> 00:40:46.690 say this is wrong and you need to change. Don't get a yes man 582 00:40:46.809 --> 00:40:52.079 or yes woman as your accountability partner. Get someone that will hold you accountable 583 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:57.320 for real. That's right. That is I mean above just your personal walk 584 00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.719 with the Lord. Right, you being in prayer consistently, being in the 585 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.869 word consistently, and that's another point of accountability. That's what my accountability partner 586 00:41:05.909 --> 00:41:07.550 asked me. Hey, yeah, are you in the word consistently? Like 587 00:41:07.670 --> 00:41:10.789 you you in prayer? You, how's your relationship with the Lord? Yeah, 588 00:41:13.150 --> 00:41:16.150 that's a safeguard. Is it regular? Is it intentional or is it 589 00:41:16.269 --> 00:41:19.139 just kind of well, at the end of the day, if I have 590 00:41:19.340 --> 00:41:22.260 time, I might pray a little better, but are you doing something to 591 00:41:22.539 --> 00:41:29.179 really schedule time with God in prayer, like like Jesus himself did? Now 592 00:41:29.260 --> 00:41:31.340 do want to warn against something? This is something that really wasn't kind of 593 00:41:31.420 --> 00:41:36.730 in my thought process, but I understand that people think this way. And 594 00:41:36.769 --> 00:41:43.250 it was in a conversation with someone who we've ministered alongside of and as we 595 00:41:43.329 --> 00:41:46.090 were talking, I believe you and I were talking to this person, or 596 00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.920 maybe it's just myself. I don't remember, but I do know at one 597 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.480 point this person expressed that, you know, my time with the Lord, 598 00:41:53.519 --> 00:42:00.480 I was actually using my time in ministry as a substitute for my time with 599 00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:04.429 the Lord. Okay, so rather than spending time in the word, yeah, 600 00:42:04.469 --> 00:42:07.110 it's been a time in prayer, I'll think, well, I'm spending 601 00:42:07.150 --> 00:42:09.550 time with the Lord on the sidewalk, I'll spending time with doing as well, 602 00:42:09.670 --> 00:42:14.070 yeah, being on his will. Okay, and so listen that. 603 00:42:14.309 --> 00:42:20.820 That's a ministry is important, but ministry should be done out of a relationship 604 00:42:20.860 --> 00:42:23.099 with the Lord Right, not to build, not to lay, relationship. 605 00:42:23.219 --> 00:42:27.260 Now it's a component that can help you grow closer to the Lord. Yeah, 606 00:42:27.260 --> 00:42:29.780 as it probably heard me, give to promises. If you commit to 607 00:42:29.820 --> 00:42:31.650 go to the sidewalk, God will use you to say babies, and God 608 00:42:31.690 --> 00:42:35.090 will grow you in areas what you wouldn't grow otherwise if you go to the 609 00:42:35.130 --> 00:42:37.130 side wall. That's true. This is a component. Ministry is a component 610 00:42:37.329 --> 00:42:40.809 right of your relationship with the Lord, but is it is not the bedrock, 611 00:42:40.929 --> 00:42:45.400 it is not the foundation of relationship with the Lord. It is it 612 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:49.360 is something that is built upon the foundation of your relationship with the Lord. 613 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:53.119 Again, you cannot give what you do not have. If you're encountering people 614 00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:58.320 at the abortion center, they need Jesus Right, they need a relationship with 615 00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:00.630 him, they need to be connected to the true vine right, because they 616 00:43:00.670 --> 00:43:04.909 need life that comes from him. If you're not connected to the true vine, 617 00:43:04.949 --> 00:43:07.510 if you're kind of a withering branch, you can't give them what they 618 00:43:07.510 --> 00:43:10.989 don't have, and sometimes that can creep up on you. So using ministry 619 00:43:12.030 --> 00:43:17.780 as a substitute for a consistent, close relationship with the Lord, it should 620 00:43:17.780 --> 00:43:22.300 flow out of that right, not be a replacement for that. So that's 621 00:43:22.460 --> 00:43:28.010 that's a warning for you guys. So just a couple of other safeguards as 622 00:43:28.090 --> 00:43:30.809 we kind of knock these things out and wrap this podcast up. Is Confession 623 00:43:30.809 --> 00:43:34.929 of sin. Yeah, and that doesn't just mean you say, and I'm 624 00:43:34.969 --> 00:43:37.250 sorry God that I did this sin. But if there are consistent struggles in 625 00:43:37.289 --> 00:43:42.599 your life, let's say, for example, as men looking at pornography on 626 00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:45.519 a regular basis, if that's a consistent struggle in your life, you need 627 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.840 to stop just confessing that to the Lord and you need to start confessing that 628 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.760 to people. You need to have an accountability partner that you're confessing that to. 629 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:55.750 You need had people in your life, if you've got close people in 630 00:43:55.789 --> 00:44:00.949 your life, ministry leaders, pastors or your accountability partner who says, Hey, 631 00:44:01.070 --> 00:44:05.429 listen, man, you're consistently stumbling in this area. Yeah, think 632 00:44:05.429 --> 00:44:07.590 you need to back, yeah, from ministry. Yeah, you're the Bible 633 00:44:07.630 --> 00:44:10.659 as well, and the Bible says confess our sins one to another. It's 634 00:44:10.739 --> 00:44:14.699 not just to God, but it is one to another, and that's such 635 00:44:14.699 --> 00:44:17.780 a big safeguard because, if you know, God requires that of us. 636 00:44:19.300 --> 00:44:22.179 I think that alone can sometimes hold you back. It helps. It's another 637 00:44:22.340 --> 00:44:25.369 barrier to you sinning, because you know, I'm going to go have to 638 00:44:25.449 --> 00:44:30.570 tell my friend. Yeah, you know, absolutely so very important. Yeah, 639 00:44:30.570 --> 00:44:34.730 I'll chew you this. Maybe in the Modern Church we make light of 640 00:44:34.809 --> 00:44:37.050 sin. Yeah, and we say and you know, everybody does it. 641 00:44:37.170 --> 00:44:43.000 Maybe that's the case for many churches. It is. Yeah, that's not 642 00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.639 the case with God. God doesn't make light of sin. It's not just 643 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:49.880 a no big deal to him. Yeah, everybody does it. No Way, 644 00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:53.070 your child of God. If you're inconsistent, unrepentant sin, yeah, 645 00:44:53.150 --> 00:44:58.110 you might make light of it. God doesn't. Yeah, and after all, 646 00:44:58.110 --> 00:45:00.989 it's his opinion that matters, so deal with it. Deal with it 647 00:45:00.190 --> 00:45:05.630 forth rightly, deal with it by confessing it, and I'm mourning for it. 648 00:45:05.710 --> 00:45:07.820 I think that's something else is that comes with a broken in contract. 649 00:45:07.860 --> 00:45:14.380 All right, to truly mourn over how you have straight yeah, God, 650 00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:19.659 and the destruction, because it always causes destruction, not only in your life 651 00:45:19.699 --> 00:45:22.210 but in the lives of others. Yep, some fifty one is a perfect 652 00:45:22.250 --> 00:45:27.369 scripture. If there's unrepentant sin in your life and God has confronted you in 653 00:45:27.489 --> 00:45:30.210 it, you need to repent of it. Some fifty one is a great 654 00:45:30.369 --> 00:45:32.690 model. This is David after he was called in his sin with Best Sheba 655 00:45:32.769 --> 00:45:37.559 and yeah, you're Rye and all that. Yeah, he repents before God. 656 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:39.480 God continues to use him as a matter of act. I will say 657 00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:44.800 this. Yeah, that, after this is pretty astounding to me after this 658 00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:49.400 whole episode of his sin. Is I actually when God says that David is 659 00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:52.710 a man after his own heart. He's an adulterer and murderer. Yeah, 660 00:45:52.789 --> 00:45:54.510 and you know, one of the questions that in an article, which is 661 00:45:54.630 --> 00:46:01.269 referenced in the article I wrote, was would would any ministry ministry hired David? 662 00:46:01.309 --> 00:46:06.739 Yeah, Jesse, he's just finished an adulterous relationship, had a child 663 00:46:06.739 --> 00:46:13.539 out of wedlock killed her or had her husband killed? Would you hired David 664 00:46:13.579 --> 00:46:17.500 he no, probably not. Probably not. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. 665 00:46:17.500 --> 00:46:22.889 I would say that the know he's disqualified. But the amazing thing is God 666 00:46:22.969 --> 00:46:27.730 doesn't disqualify. Yeah. Yeah, and of course we could get into all 667 00:46:27.849 --> 00:46:34.400 the theological reasons for that, maybe some Old Testament versus New Testament, understandings 668 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.760 of the Covenant with God and all of that trying to imply anything. But 669 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.559 yeah, point is taken. there. God's restore. So just because for 670 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.679 a season you might be disqualified from from ministry, yeah, doesn't mean for 671 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.630 forever. Yeah, and these are all things there's in no way or we're 672 00:46:49.630 --> 00:46:52.469 going to be able to give you a podcast or give you guidance in. 673 00:46:52.070 --> 00:46:55.989 You know, when are you disqualified from ministry or when is it like you 674 00:46:57.070 --> 00:46:59.349 need to take a break, because that's kind of our last point, that 675 00:46:59.389 --> 00:47:01.340 there are times you need to take a break, whether it's because of and 676 00:47:01.380 --> 00:47:05.860 I would say again, if it's unrepentant sin and there's things that disqualify you, 677 00:47:05.940 --> 00:47:07.780 yes, you need to take a break, and that needs to be 678 00:47:07.900 --> 00:47:14.300 done in subjection to leadership, to people that you're under the leadership of people 679 00:47:14.340 --> 00:47:17.650 in your local church and if you're part of a ministry, those votes. 680 00:47:17.730 --> 00:47:21.329 But let me ask you. Maybe this is where you're going. But that 681 00:47:21.809 --> 00:47:27.730 is clear. Yeah, but what about if your world is falling apart because 682 00:47:27.889 --> 00:47:30.920 Satan hates what you're doing in your so effective? Yeah, what's your advice 683 00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:36.679 there? About when? Because they are he can do some pretty very destructive 684 00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.760 things, there's no doubt. Yeah, when do we step back in the 685 00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:44.590 faces? I don't see in scripture. I don't see any kind of like 686 00:47:44.670 --> 00:47:47.510 definitive line. Yeah, but I do think there is a point like the 687 00:47:47.590 --> 00:47:51.750 attacks of the devil can get so much where. Yeah, you've got to 688 00:47:51.829 --> 00:47:53.630 step back for a season. I do think, though, it needs to 689 00:47:53.670 --> 00:47:59.179 be if you've, if you've been called to a particular ministry, God didn't 690 00:47:59.179 --> 00:48:00.900 change his mind. Right. So if you can call to the ministry, 691 00:48:00.900 --> 00:48:05.900 let's say, of a sidewalk missionaries, I will counselor you know that God 692 00:48:05.980 --> 00:48:07.900 called you to that. You've seen God use you in that, people have 693 00:48:08.019 --> 00:48:12.139 validated that, people that know you say, Yep, you're called to this. 694 00:48:13.010 --> 00:48:15.969 God didn't change his mind. Yeah, now there may be a season 695 00:48:15.130 --> 00:48:20.489 where you need to step away, reassess, maybe get some I don't know, 696 00:48:20.769 --> 00:48:22.409 just get some more depth in your relationship with the Lord or whatever. 697 00:48:23.010 --> 00:48:27.440 Those decisions, however, to me, can't be made me, given guidance 698 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.199 ever, a podcast, anything like that. They need to be made before 699 00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:34.199 the Lord and with the guidance of other people. Like just this idea that 700 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.920 you're just going to pray about it and you're going to get some kind of 701 00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:38.280 clarity from the Lord. Okay, I'm not trying to minimize that. You 702 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:42.030 should pray about it and should get some kind of clarity from the Lord, 703 00:48:42.510 --> 00:48:46.110 but the Lord works through people and typically in our lives we're being led. 704 00:48:46.309 --> 00:48:50.710 He works through the leaders that we're being led by. So talking to those 705 00:48:50.750 --> 00:48:54.710 people, getting taking their suggestions, taking their guidance, because God will give 706 00:48:55.139 --> 00:48:59.940 to your leadership, God will give to pastors wisdom that he wouldn't give to 707 00:48:59.980 --> 00:49:05.300 me. Yeah, because you have willfully put yourselves under their authority. God 708 00:49:06.420 --> 00:49:09.929 respects authority. Actually, God respects the authority of human beings, especially within 709 00:49:09.969 --> 00:49:14.570 the realm of the local church, and so you respecting their authority and God 710 00:49:14.650 --> 00:49:17.130 working through them can be very helpful and find figuring out. Okay, when 711 00:49:17.130 --> 00:49:21.730 do you need to step back. What is that time frame and then when 712 00:49:21.769 --> 00:49:23.440 you need to step back into it? Right, and so that's kind of 713 00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:28.079 just the guidance I'll give based on that kind of the way I see it 714 00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:34.239 in scripture. Yeah, but beyond that, I mean there's there's again this 715 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.829 relational component in the local church that is so vital and so important. And 716 00:49:38.670 --> 00:49:42.550 I do know, and I think we have to acknowledge in this day and 717 00:49:42.710 --> 00:49:45.429 age of the day of covid where so many churches are not meeting. Yeah, 718 00:49:45.510 --> 00:49:50.150 so many people are not. Maybe they used to be consistently connected to 719 00:49:50.230 --> 00:49:52.539 the local church and now they're not and they're trying to do online church. 720 00:49:53.059 --> 00:49:57.860 To me, that's like to the detriment of the body of Christ in a 721 00:49:57.900 --> 00:50:00.900 lot of ways. And I'm not trying to accuse churches those who don't meet, 722 00:50:00.940 --> 00:50:02.739 and there's different reasons why. I'm not trying to accuse that, but 723 00:50:02.820 --> 00:50:07.050 I am saying that that there's a reason why the Bible says we should not 724 00:50:07.210 --> 00:50:12.329 forsake dissembling ourselves together. Right, we need to assemble it together. We 725 00:50:12.449 --> 00:50:15.809 need to have leadership, we need to have accountability, we need to have 726 00:50:15.969 --> 00:50:21.369 relationships with people that can speak in our lives, and so I hope that's 727 00:50:21.369 --> 00:50:24.400 an encouragement to you guys. If there's some more clarity that we can give 728 00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:29.000 along these lines, we would certainly be willing to do that. I'm not 729 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:31.239 going to step in as your pastor, so I'm not going to try to 730 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.760 figure out all of this for you. If you've got some of these struggles. 731 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.070 Hopefully this gave you some guidance, but I would strongly encourage you, 732 00:50:37.110 --> 00:50:39.510 like if you reached out to me and ask me some of these questions, 733 00:50:39.510 --> 00:50:42.550 I'm probably going to say, well, are you part of a local church? 734 00:50:42.590 --> 00:50:45.710 Okay, we'll talk to your pastor and then, you know, you 735 00:50:45.789 --> 00:50:47.309 maybe can circle back around with me. Yeah, I think that would be 736 00:50:47.389 --> 00:50:52.219 my guidance to you. Yeah, but yeah, beyond that I think we're 737 00:50:53.460 --> 00:50:59.940 hopefully we're giving you guys some guidance and some encouragement along these yeah, and 738 00:51:00.059 --> 00:51:04.610 just just especially for you to know you're not alone if you're feeling like when 739 00:51:04.690 --> 00:51:08.329 do I leave? Should I leave it? Am I disqualified if you're even 740 00:51:08.329 --> 00:51:13.449 asking that question? I think most of the time you're probably not, because 741 00:51:13.489 --> 00:51:15.690 that would that indicated question comes out of a broken heart, I think, 742 00:51:15.690 --> 00:51:21.280 and that's one of the qualifiers. So yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Well, 743 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.559 guys, we appreciate you listen to this podcast. Like we started out, 744 00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:28.199 we want to encourage you guys to share this podcast with other people and, 745 00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:30.559 like I said, you could reach out to me if there's some questions 746 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.590 that you have along these lines that I can give some help in. I'll 747 00:51:34.590 --> 00:51:37.269 do my best. I'm sure Vicky would be willing to do the same. 748 00:51:37.670 --> 00:51:39.110 You can reach both of us. You can reach me, Daniel at Love 749 00:51:39.190 --> 00:51:42.869 Life Dot Org. You can reach her, Vicky at Love Life Dot Org. 750 00:51:42.949 --> 00:51:46.340 Check out this article. Sometimes the articles come out a little after we 751 00:51:46.500 --> 00:51:52.900 post the PODCAST and sometimes they come out along with the podcast. But if 752 00:51:52.940 --> 00:51:54.980 you don't see this article out and you don't have a link for that in 753 00:51:55.099 --> 00:51:59.179 the podcast show notes, then it'll be out in a couple of days or 754 00:51:59.219 --> 00:52:01.409 whatever on our sidewalks for life website. So you can go to a sidewalks 755 00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:07.730 the number four lifecom and there's a tab. They're called equipping articles and you 756 00:52:07.809 --> 00:52:10.130 can just read the articles that we've written. This one in particular than the 757 00:52:10.170 --> 00:52:13.489 others that we've written. 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