Oct. 22, 2020

Using Signs to Reach Abortion-minded Women

Using Signs to Reach Abortion-minded Women

God gives us many tools to bring the truth to those going into our local abortion centers. Signs are one very effective tool that anyone can use to bring help and hope to these dark places. Join Vicky and Daniel as they talk about what kinds of signs...


God gives us many tools to bring the truth to those going into our local abortion centers. Signs are one very effective tool that anyone can use to bring help and hope to these dark places. Join Vicky and Daniel as they talk about what kinds of signs are effective and how to use them in a strategic way.

https://sidewalks4life.com/using-pro-life-signs/

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.869 Lord, I am Your Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. This 3 00:00:10.990 --> 00:00:14.830 episode we're going to talk about how to use signs effectively to reach abortion minded 4 00:00:14.910 --> 00:00:18.230 women at an abortion center. We're going to look at this from a biblical 5 00:00:18.309 --> 00:00:29.059 and practical perspective. So stay tuned. I felt show passish touch your heart. 6 00:00:35.340 --> 00:00:39.409 Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. We, as always, 7 00:00:39.450 --> 00:00:44.850 appreciate you guys listening and would appreciate if you guys would share this podcast, 8 00:00:45.009 --> 00:00:49.090 this episode, with your friends, with your family, with people you love 9 00:00:49.170 --> 00:00:52.280 and people that you don't love so much. Maybe it'll be a blessing to 10 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:58.000 them. And I think this episode we're going to touch on some some pretty 11 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:02.200 practical stuff. I think we always do, always touch on practical stuff, 12 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:06.230 but we kind of get in the realm of theology and some of our podcasts 13 00:01:06.510 --> 00:01:07.750 we're going to get into some of that. We're going to dig into some 14 00:01:07.829 --> 00:01:12.189 scripture, but we're going to dig into some some real practical things here as 15 00:01:12.269 --> 00:01:15.989 it pertains to signs. Yeah, and when we talk about signs, we've 16 00:01:17.030 --> 00:01:23.219 seen some miraculous signs, ways that God has spoken to women and men at 17 00:01:23.260 --> 00:01:26.140 the abortion center and spoken through us, and praise God for that. But 18 00:01:26.260 --> 00:01:29.459 in this episode we're not really talking about that. We're talking about signs, 19 00:01:29.620 --> 00:01:33.450 like literal signs, literal signs like what you hold, what you display. 20 00:01:33.769 --> 00:01:37.370 We actually had a guy reach out to us a couple of weeks ago with 21 00:01:37.849 --> 00:01:41.170 why don't you guys do a podcast about signage, and so I thought, 22 00:01:41.250 --> 00:01:45.890 Hey, we should, we ask people for suggestions on podcasts and he shot 23 00:01:45.930 --> 00:01:49.680 us out of suggestion. So will we're certainly cover that subject. Yeah, 24 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.480 and it's not as if we haven't covered this subject before in some measure. 25 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:59.120 If you guys remember, a couple of months ago, maybe three or four 26 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:02.829 months ago, we had the folks from CBR, center for bio ethical reform, 27 00:02:02.989 --> 00:02:07.150 that do the gap project right, which is genocide awareness project, where 28 00:02:07.150 --> 00:02:13.389 they go in display victim images babies that are victims of abortion. They do 29 00:02:13.509 --> 00:02:17.860 it my mainly on college campuses with signs show people what abortion is, what 30 00:02:17.979 --> 00:02:22.139 it actually does, to provoke conversation. So you guys can go back and 31 00:02:22.180 --> 00:02:24.379 listen to that. We're not going to talk about graphic signs so much. 32 00:02:24.419 --> 00:02:28.419 We might mention it a little bit, just some of our philosophy as it 33 00:02:28.539 --> 00:02:34.370 pertains to that, and I recognize that there are that's a controversial subject right 34 00:02:34.650 --> 00:02:38.370 for people who even do ministry at abortion clinics. It's a controversial subject whether 35 00:02:38.370 --> 00:02:40.409 or not you should use graphic signs. Will give you a little bit and 36 00:02:40.449 --> 00:02:44.129 in that podcast we gave you a little bit of our philosophy behind that, 37 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:46.879 but I believe that is a thing where it's between you and the Lord and 38 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:51.719 just do what you feel like the Lord is calling you to do in that 39 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.280 area. Hey, but we're going to talk practically about signage. Yeah, 40 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:59.469 we do our sidewalk trainings. This is one of the things that we touch 41 00:02:59.550 --> 00:03:04.349 on the effective usage of signage. We talk about the effective usage of literature. 42 00:03:04.789 --> 00:03:07.629 Maybe we'll do a podcast episode about that. I don't know if it's 43 00:03:07.870 --> 00:03:13.860 enough to really fill up a whole episode and I think maybe this episode will 44 00:03:13.860 --> 00:03:16.219 be short. Maybe maybe not. We'll find out as we progress in the 45 00:03:16.300 --> 00:03:22.500 episode. But we touch on all these different tools that the lord uses and 46 00:03:22.659 --> 00:03:25.620 that we can employ to bring truth to a mother that's coming to an abortion 47 00:03:25.740 --> 00:03:29.770 center. So our voices, of course, or a tool that God has 48 00:03:29.810 --> 00:03:32.050 given us, amplified sound, which we do use here in Charlotte. That's 49 00:03:32.050 --> 00:03:35.930 a tool, right. Yeah, speakers, that's a tool. Literature, 50 00:03:36.009 --> 00:03:39.250 that's a tool to get the truth to these MOMS. And and then signage, 51 00:03:39.409 --> 00:03:43.560 that's tool, those other tools to the mobultrasound unit that you guys have 52 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:46.080 heard US mentioned, that we have here in Charlotte, ultrasound just in general 53 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:51.840 as a machine, ultrasound machine and just the practical visual they're share. That's 54 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:54.159 a tool. These things are tools for us to bring the truth to a 55 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:58.310 mom's that it's at an abortion clinic. Ultimately the goal is to bring the 56 00:03:58.389 --> 00:04:02.870 Gospel to her. So let's jump into that tool called signage. Yeah, 57 00:04:03.270 --> 00:04:08.789 and what is the ports of the purpose of signs? Yeah, well, 58 00:04:08.949 --> 00:04:13.419 they're they're your planting seeds of truth from the beginning. Yeah, thank you 59 00:04:13.500 --> 00:04:15.300 said. And and we have three kind of main areas. We've said this 60 00:04:15.459 --> 00:04:19.339 many, many times, three main areas of truth. Yeah, that we 61 00:04:19.420 --> 00:04:24.329 kind of focus on. Yeah, it's something we call our are three talking 62 00:04:24.490 --> 00:04:28.089 points, three vital talking points. If you guys have been on the sidewalks 63 00:04:28.129 --> 00:04:31.089 for life. Website we have an article about this. They're in our trainings 64 00:04:31.129 --> 00:04:35.970 here locally. And then as we're raising up sidewalk missionaries under love life throughout 65 00:04:36.170 --> 00:04:40.560 the entire nation and throughout the world. This is what we're teaching. We're 66 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.959 teaching these three vital talking points, and this is just things that over the 67 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:48.319 years we've discovered. Hey, what we're saying fits into these categories. Pretty 68 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:53.230 much everything. Yeah, and the tools that we use, again the literature, 69 00:04:53.230 --> 00:05:00.629 are voices and signage plants. These three kinds of seeds of truth, 70 00:05:00.709 --> 00:05:03.029 right. And so what are they? Well, okay, so humanity of 71 00:05:03.029 --> 00:05:05.949 the baby. Yeah, first of all. Now, wouldn't include just the 72 00:05:05.990 --> 00:05:10.060 mere fact that you useeing the word baby. Yeah, I'm showing pictures of 73 00:05:10.100 --> 00:05:14.579 the babies, talking about and showing pictures of baby development. Yeah, so 74 00:05:14.740 --> 00:05:17.899 that's that's number one. Yeah. The second one is what God says, 75 00:05:18.379 --> 00:05:24.449 both about the baby, about life, about taking innocent life, all of 76 00:05:24.529 --> 00:05:29.449 those kind of things that that the Bible mentions. Yeah, about this whole 77 00:05:29.930 --> 00:05:33.970 prolife subject. Yeah. And then thirdly, resources, and I have an 78 00:05:34.009 --> 00:05:39.920 interesting little recent story about signage of resource. So, okay, so resources. 79 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:43.120 No, just so you guys who are listening kind of understand where we're 80 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.079 going with this, is we're talking about. These are things, these are 81 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:50.470 nuggets of truth, these are seeds of truth that can be put on displayed 82 00:05:50.470 --> 00:05:55.589 own signageect to reach a mother, to reach a father going into the abortion 83 00:05:55.750 --> 00:05:58.230 center. So yes, and we're going to talk about how you might put 84 00:05:58.269 --> 00:06:00.990 those images to convey you to these truths. Yeah, as we talked more 85 00:06:01.029 --> 00:06:04.259 about types of signs, but in the resources. I was just thinking of 86 00:06:04.379 --> 00:06:09.819 this as you were starting this introduction. Very recently I had a very, 87 00:06:09.860 --> 00:06:13.939 very strong urge, following my work on the sidewalk, my time on the 88 00:06:13.980 --> 00:06:16.699 sidewalk, to go get a chick fil a salad. Oh yeah, man 89 00:06:16.899 --> 00:06:20.970 ti fully as Christian chicken. It's good. have it is it's so good 90 00:06:21.370 --> 00:06:26.129 and I passed by right on my way home all the time and it's been 91 00:06:26.250 --> 00:06:30.529 probably a year since I have stopped for a chick fil a salad. I 92 00:06:30.730 --> 00:06:32.560 love them, but you know they're a little bit pricey. I shouldn't, 93 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:36.639 I've got salad at home, but the urge was overwhelming. So it was 94 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:40.839 the Holy Spirit. Clearly, tell the holy spirits. There was the holy 95 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:44.199 spirits a stop at chick FIL A and, by the way, I saw 96 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:47.750 the signs of chickfilater directing me, which which encouraged me even more so to 97 00:06:47.870 --> 00:06:51.629 pull in. So I pull in long line, but I'm waiting in line. 98 00:06:51.629 --> 00:06:56.029 I give the young lady my order and then I'm still waiting in line 99 00:06:56.029 --> 00:06:59.750 quite a while and she knocked on my window. Okay, after I'd give 100 00:06:59.870 --> 00:07:02.060 my order, I'm thinking, what did I forget, and she said I 101 00:07:02.620 --> 00:07:08.980 see in the back of your car you have a sign free ultra sound. 102 00:07:09.579 --> 00:07:13.420 We can help you. And then she looks very serious and a little bit 103 00:07:13.540 --> 00:07:19.250 scared and said I'm pregnant. I just found out that I'm pregnant and and 104 00:07:19.490 --> 00:07:23.329 just was kind of you could tell she just didn't know what to do. 105 00:07:24.410 --> 00:07:27.970 We see this all the time Sun. So it was my sign, just 106 00:07:28.129 --> 00:07:31.040 stuffed in with my stuff in the back of the car she saw and then 107 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:34.839 I instantly gave her a pamphlet with my name and number on it and told 108 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:39.800 her please call me. We can help you, and then went on and 109 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:45.709 enjoyed a very delicious, Holy Spirit filled South Amen. So your sign myself 110 00:07:45.870 --> 00:07:48.870 was a sign. My sign was a sign for for her. Obviously she 111 00:07:49.029 --> 00:07:53.910 had clearly this was still new. She had you could tell she had just 112 00:07:54.069 --> 00:07:57.069 found this out. She's still overwhelmed, she doesn't know what to do and 113 00:07:57.269 --> 00:08:03.180 here God uses an actual sign to point her to help. Yeah, and 114 00:08:03.339 --> 00:08:07.019 God uses signs, he does. Yeah, I would say as far as 115 00:08:07.139 --> 00:08:13.209 tools are concerned, now, different scenarios lend themselves different things. Like, 116 00:08:13.329 --> 00:08:16.250 for example, here on the trobe drive, and we're recording right now in 117 00:08:16.529 --> 00:08:22.009 our studio office. That's just right off of La Trobe drive, a hundred 118 00:08:22.089 --> 00:08:24.689 fifty yards or so away from the busiest abortion clinic in the southeast, right, 119 00:08:24.810 --> 00:08:28.839 and it's tucked back into a business park. Yeah, so most of 120 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.839 the people that make it down to the abortion center here on the troube drive, 121 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:33.799 that make it down in that area of the Business Park, are going 122 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.320 to the abortion center right right. So Our signs, and we do use 123 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.149 signs, are are going to reach those moms. That's who is going to 124 00:08:41.190 --> 00:08:45.110 be seeing it, primarily, of course, the workers that are pulling in 125 00:08:45.269 --> 00:08:48.309 and stuff like. They that are going to be seeing these signs and they're 126 00:08:48.309 --> 00:08:54.470 effective in that way. Yeah, however, on the just half a mile 127 00:08:54.549 --> 00:08:56.059 down the road from here, maybe a little more than that, on windover 128 00:08:56.139 --> 00:09:01.820 road, there's another abortion center and it's right on that main road on windover 129 00:09:01.899 --> 00:09:05.820 road, and there are probably, during rush hour, thousands of cars that 130 00:09:05.940 --> 00:09:09.580 pass by. Yeah, and Sign Ministry there is very important. It's very 131 00:09:09.580 --> 00:09:13.610 difficult to reach the abortion center. You're a hundred fifty feet on the public 132 00:09:13.730 --> 00:09:18.570 sidewalk from the abortion center itself. The abortion center is actually located in a 133 00:09:18.730 --> 00:09:24.009 business complex and there's other doctors offices and things that are there. So it's 134 00:09:24.049 --> 00:09:26.480 hard to even know who you're reaching. So signs they're calling out. You 135 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:28.799 can call out to the people if you can kind of figure out who, 136 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:31.679 if you see an older couple walking in, and if you can talk out 137 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.080 over the noise because the traffic. Oh, yes, that it's really hard. 138 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:37.080 Yeah, but you know, if you see an older couple walk in 139 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:39.870 there, you're not going to call out to them about going in for an 140 00:09:39.870 --> 00:09:45.669 abortion because they're probably going into the orthopedic right guy or right maybe to the 141 00:09:45.750 --> 00:09:48.629 dental office that's in there or whatever. My point is that signs there are 142 00:09:48.830 --> 00:09:54.860 very important. In some scenarios, different abortion clinics, signs are more crucial 143 00:09:54.059 --> 00:09:58.100 than another scenarios. Like I could do actually without signs here at La Troupe. 144 00:09:58.340 --> 00:10:01.299 There are times where we don't use signs. Yeah, and we'll talk 145 00:10:01.299 --> 00:10:05.779 a little bit maybe about how signs can sometimes hurt. What you're doing if 146 00:10:05.860 --> 00:10:09.169 you're not strategic in the way that you signs. And actually there's an article 147 00:10:09.570 --> 00:10:15.289 on our sidewalks for life website, sidebox thumb before life calm, and it's 148 00:10:15.289 --> 00:10:18.769 an article that talks specifically about signs and some of the effective usage of signs 149 00:10:18.809 --> 00:10:20.600 and some of the things look out for and signs. So you got to 150 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:22.480 check that out. But we're going to touch on some of that. As 151 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:26.519 matter of fact, we're kind of using that articles a framework for this podcast, 152 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:31.639 right and will link that article in the notes on this podcast. But 153 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:33.919 I say that to say that signs are powerful tool and we need to employ 154 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:39.870 them effectively. But as we're talking about signs, let's give a let's give 155 00:10:39.870 --> 00:10:43.429 people an understanding what types of signs, because you might have, as you're 156 00:10:43.429 --> 00:10:48.029 listening, some ideas in your mind and maybe they're good ideas, maybe they're 157 00:10:48.029 --> 00:10:50.659 not, and so we're going to give you just some practical tips of what 158 00:10:50.779 --> 00:10:52.980 would be good to put on a sign, yeah, but would not be 159 00:10:52.179 --> 00:10:54.820 good to good to put on a sign. But what are the types of 160 00:10:54.860 --> 00:10:58.620 signs that we're talking about? Before we get into the types of signs, 161 00:10:58.659 --> 00:11:01.259 something that I thought about as you were describing what's happening at when over and 162 00:11:01.299 --> 00:11:05.929 with that busy that busy road. Yeah, and one of, I think, 163 00:11:05.970 --> 00:11:09.809 the big purposes, if we can still just kind of focus on the 164 00:11:09.889 --> 00:11:13.490 purposes. That were those three talking points, but also, I think, 165 00:11:13.730 --> 00:11:20.159 very effectively at whend over we often have a victim image sign being displayed and 166 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.840 you're showing in one picture the horror Ye have abortion. So you're exposing an 167 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:31.039 evil. That and that, I think, is a major purpose of absolutely 168 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:35.509 times to expose the evil. And we also put a usually a a mom 169 00:11:35.590 --> 00:11:41.070 and baby, showing a baby saved, yeah, from abortion, and so 170 00:11:41.269 --> 00:11:46.549 you're also showing the stark contrast, the difference between the two choices of the 171 00:11:46.669 --> 00:11:50.139 evil of abortion and and the choice for life. So I wanted to add 172 00:11:50.179 --> 00:11:52.220 that in there and that'll, you know, segue nicely into the different types 173 00:11:52.259 --> 00:11:56.220 of science. And of course that's that's a biblical concept. It is Ephesians 174 00:11:56.220 --> 00:12:00.659 chapter five tells us have no fellowship with the hum fruit for works of darkness, 175 00:12:00.700 --> 00:12:05.090 a rather expose them. So we're supposed to expose darkness. We do 176 00:12:05.409 --> 00:12:07.889 like to, when we show a victim image, though, have a contrast 177 00:12:09.049 --> 00:12:11.169 we might. We like to have a balance there, because I do think 178 00:12:11.250 --> 00:12:16.159 that they're we need have some concern. Yeah, if we're just throwing victim 179 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.559 images out there, and there's some, I think, and I'm not the 180 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:22.480 judge of people that use these, but I'm just saying from my perspective, 181 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:26.200 there are some really overthe top graphic images that are not helpful, where we're 182 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:31.789 just kind of gratuitously showing the violence of abortion, and I think it can 183 00:12:31.909 --> 00:12:35.149 serve to maybe innoculate people to the evil of abortion if we just throw that 184 00:12:35.190 --> 00:12:41.149 out there constantly. Right, but I do think if we use victim images, 185 00:12:41.190 --> 00:12:43.190 I won't say tasteful, because none of them are tasteful, but victim 186 00:12:43.230 --> 00:12:48.580 images that are designed and the implication is to show the evil of abortion, 187 00:12:48.980 --> 00:12:52.980 not in some overthetop way but in a way that's appropriate, and then contrast 188 00:12:52.059 --> 00:12:56.700 that with the baby is save. Then you get that contrast between life and 189 00:12:56.779 --> 00:13:00.929 death, light and darkness, and that is a biblical balance and we see 190 00:13:00.929 --> 00:13:05.450 that all through the scripture as God's contrast good from evil, light from darkness, 191 00:13:05.570 --> 00:13:07.649 life from death. Yeah, exactly, and that's that is the spiritual 192 00:13:07.769 --> 00:13:11.879 battle at every woman driving into that abortion center is going through. Yeah, 193 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:18.480 the choice between good or evil, death or life, abortion or birth, 194 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:24.039 and and and so I think to to be able to show that in a 195 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:28.149 second, in a split second. You have such limited time and that's why 196 00:13:28.269 --> 00:13:33.309 signs are so important. Yeah, you have your words are very important. 197 00:13:33.669 --> 00:13:37.149 There's no doubt. We are commanded to use our words, no doubt, 198 00:13:37.190 --> 00:13:41.460 absolutely, but you literally have sometimes second. Yeah, absolutely, these women 199 00:13:41.539 --> 00:13:48.100 and a sign is speaks volumes. Yeah, and an immediate visual is yeah, 200 00:13:48.100 --> 00:13:50.379 absolutely, Mitch. So let's talk real quick then, about the types 201 00:13:50.460 --> 00:13:54.299 of signage that we use. I've been doing this ministry, this type of 202 00:13:54.340 --> 00:13:58.809 ministry, for about fifteen years and I've learned a lot. Yeah, I 203 00:13:58.889 --> 00:14:01.370 don't say that to say that I'm great and I'm faithful by God's grace, 204 00:14:01.529 --> 00:14:05.210 but it would be faithful. There's something right, sperience, those count for 205 00:14:05.289 --> 00:14:09.049 something. So I've seen over the years and just thinking through, praying through, 206 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:13.159 I've seen some effective usage of signs. Yeah, and I've seen some 207 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.559 pretty ineffective us of signs. So the types of signs we're talking about is 208 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.679 images. Right, pictures are powerful, but they say pictures worth a thousand 209 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.750 words, right, and that's true. So what we use here on the 210 00:14:26.830 --> 00:14:33.470 trobe drive often times is pictures of MOMS holding babies. And another shameless plug 211 00:14:33.549 --> 00:14:37.470 in for our website, sidewalks for life calm is. There's a whole section 212 00:14:39.059 --> 00:14:41.659 that's called a printable downloads, I think it is. Yeah, and you 213 00:14:41.779 --> 00:14:45.980 can go on and you can actually we have the files for three by four, 214 00:14:46.179 --> 00:14:48.299 so three foot by four foot, so four foot high, three foot 215 00:14:48.379 --> 00:14:52.129 wide, signs that you can take those files to your local print shop print 216 00:14:52.129 --> 00:14:56.210 them out, and their pictures of MOM's holding babies, right, and they 217 00:14:56.289 --> 00:15:00.649 say things like we're praying for you and your baby. Your baby is a 218 00:15:00.690 --> 00:15:03.610 gift from God. So again we're talking about God, what God says. 219 00:15:03.649 --> 00:15:05.210 Your baby is a gift from him. Your baby's not a Birden, your 220 00:15:05.210 --> 00:15:09.879 baby's not a curse, but a gift from him. Stop for resources. 221 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:15.039 So pictures, I think, are primarily and, by the way, most 222 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:16.879 powerful thing. These are all free, right there. Are are all free 223 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.950 and they're all of actual moms who have actual and those are actual babies. 224 00:15:20.990 --> 00:15:24.429 Who has her mom chose life here in child yes, so the very they 225 00:15:24.470 --> 00:15:28.870 have a lot of meaning and they can be a great tool if you do 226 00:15:28.149 --> 00:15:31.389 get engaged in a conversation with a mom to say look, here is an 227 00:15:31.429 --> 00:15:35.700 actual mom who chose life and her child, and look at does she look 228 00:15:35.779 --> 00:15:39.179 happy? Yeah, I'll do. They're beautiful. I mean signs in one 229 00:15:39.259 --> 00:15:43.620 sense can empower people. Yeah, they can empower we have one sign that 230 00:15:43.659 --> 00:15:48.740 we use here locally that says it's a mom that chose life here on the 231 00:15:48.820 --> 00:15:52.730 trape drive actually holding her baby, and it says I chose life, so 232 00:15:52.970 --> 00:15:56.250 can you. Yeah. So it's empowering US saying, Hey, I did 233 00:15:56.330 --> 00:15:58.769 this, I was in the struggle that you were in. A short message 234 00:15:58.809 --> 00:16:03.049 conveys a lot of truth and just a few words. Yeah, and it's 235 00:16:03.049 --> 00:16:07.519 empowering that young lady to say, Hey, I chose life, not because 236 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:10.480 I'm better than you and it's that's I don't think that's the implication at all, 237 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:12.080 but I chose life, so can you. If I did it, 238 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.240 so can you. And I think the implication is I'm not better than you, 239 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.789 I'm just a regular person who is scared and struggling, but I chose 240 00:16:18.909 --> 00:16:23.429 life and you can too. I think you touched on a really important point. 241 00:16:23.669 --> 00:16:27.389 In all of our signage, some are pictures, but some are words. 242 00:16:27.590 --> 00:16:32.590 Yeah, but not a lot of works right. Yet they need to 243 00:16:32.629 --> 00:16:37.299 be short to the point. Yeah, phrases. Yeah, if you try, 244 00:16:37.379 --> 00:16:38.740 and I've had folks come out as while I said, I've seen some 245 00:16:40.019 --> 00:16:44.179 some effective signage and some ineffective signs. I've had people come out with like 246 00:16:44.259 --> 00:16:48.330 a whole verse of scripture, maybe even like a whole chapter, and I 247 00:16:48.409 --> 00:16:52.889 think scriptures good. Bring out scripture, yeah, on a sign but I 248 00:16:52.009 --> 00:16:56.129 do think that you need to limit that scripture to a few words. I 249 00:16:56.210 --> 00:17:00.450 mean I'm talking like three, four, maybe five words. Right, if 250 00:17:00.490 --> 00:17:04.079 you get into whole sentences and that I chose life, so can you, 251 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:08.279 that's that's a lot of words and I do think that message is effective. 252 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:12.200 But the way that it's laid out there needs to be things that stick out, 253 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:17.670 like life, like the word life and in the word you. These 254 00:17:17.750 --> 00:17:22.109 things can stick out. The words help and hope. Really short phrases, 255 00:17:22.190 --> 00:17:25.990 really short words. I mean we have one sign that we use free resources. 256 00:17:26.589 --> 00:17:30.660 Stop for help or just stop for resources. Really quick to the point. 257 00:17:30.660 --> 00:17:34.579 It's got to be enough where they can get what's being conveyed in just 258 00:17:34.700 --> 00:17:38.059 a glimpse, right, because there's zooming by. Quite often there's Zim and 259 00:17:38.099 --> 00:17:44.410 by their zooming by they're they're afraid they're coming to a scenario. And if 260 00:17:44.450 --> 00:17:47.930 you've ever been to an abortion center yourself to minister, you know it's a 261 00:17:48.009 --> 00:17:52.609 battle zone anyway, the spiritual warfare. But even with pro abortion opposition there 262 00:17:52.650 --> 00:17:55.650 can be a lot of confusion. Here on the trobe drive we've got a 263 00:17:55.890 --> 00:18:00.200 a lot of pro abortion advocates that are out here with clinic parking signs and 264 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.839 they know this dynamic right. They don't say clinic parking is over here, 265 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:07.599 turned this way, right, it's just clinic parking with an Arrow right, 266 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.160 because we understand just practically. It's got to be short, it's got to 267 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:12.509 be to the point that anyway. The point is there's a there can be 268 00:18:12.509 --> 00:18:15.029 a lot of confusion. So we need to get right to the point. 269 00:18:15.029 --> 00:18:19.069 If you're trying to convey a message and you lay out a whole chapter of 270 00:18:19.109 --> 00:18:25.349 scripture, a whole verse of Scripture, oftentimes that message is not going to 271 00:18:25.390 --> 00:18:27.619 be seen right, as good as your intentions are. It's got to be 272 00:18:27.700 --> 00:18:32.299 short, it's got to be to the point and also, practically it's got 273 00:18:32.579 --> 00:18:34.819 the letters have to be big enough for someone who's driving by to see. 274 00:18:34.859 --> 00:18:40.980 Yeah, yeah, so so we have the the actual images pictures that are, 275 00:18:41.140 --> 00:18:45.569 you know, of MOMS or whatever, a picture of a baby or 276 00:18:45.769 --> 00:18:49.210 a picture of an aborted child. We have words and the words usually have 277 00:18:49.369 --> 00:18:53.809 something to do with either resources or help. Right, help or hope. 278 00:18:55.170 --> 00:19:00.839 Those are kind of the two main either either resources, you either again the 279 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:04.039 humanity of the baby or what God says, or that kind of interwoven into 280 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:10.109 the whole message. That's there some effective signs I've seen to and we do 281 00:19:10.269 --> 00:19:11.910 have some here. We don't use them very often. I think Elijah does 282 00:19:11.990 --> 00:19:17.269 use them on windover road there, as I just explained earlier, where it's 283 00:19:17.309 --> 00:19:19.710 babies that are in utero. So it's depictions of babies, what a baby 284 00:19:19.789 --> 00:19:23.980 looks like at nine weeks, ten weeks, twelve weeks. Those are effective 285 00:19:25.019 --> 00:19:27.940 signage right, because those convey to a mother, here's what's going on in 286 00:19:29.059 --> 00:19:32.619 your womb right now. Yeah, this baby, your nine hundred and ten, 287 00:19:33.180 --> 00:19:36.579 twelve weeks along. Your baby looks like this, and I think those 288 00:19:36.660 --> 00:19:41.809 served. It's very effective and I also think extremely important because there is such 289 00:19:41.809 --> 00:19:45.490 an attempt to lie, yeah to the mother's about what they carry in their 290 00:19:45.609 --> 00:19:49.410 womb and the size and development of those babies, and I think they're often 291 00:19:49.450 --> 00:19:55.359 shocked, yeah, by how develop such a little, young baby is in 292 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:59.759 the womb. So you're you're conveying truth with those pictures of the babies in 293 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:03.720 them. Yeah, absolutely dispelling the lies that the abortion industry says, that 294 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.349 it's just a blob of tissue or clump of sales. And you can do 295 00:20:07.549 --> 00:20:10.910 that with signage. Yeah, and it's an effective way to reach mom's going 296 00:20:10.990 --> 00:20:12.670 into the abortion. So even dispelling the lie, when I when you look 297 00:20:12.670 --> 00:20:15.390 at the picture of the mom and the baby, this was a baby saved 298 00:20:15.430 --> 00:20:19.829 here. Yeah, it is showing that their minds are not made up. 299 00:20:19.869 --> 00:20:22.779 That is a lie. Ye, your minds are not necessarily made up. 300 00:20:22.819 --> 00:20:26.579 Even at that late date. There are many women who are still experiencing conflict 301 00:20:26.619 --> 00:20:32.500 and sometimes that just that reminder that could be me. Yeah, holding that 302 00:20:32.619 --> 00:20:36.809 baby is enough to tip the balance towards you don't choosing life. Absolutely now, 303 00:20:36.849 --> 00:20:41.009 I know I have seen some signage and we at one time did use 304 00:20:41.049 --> 00:20:45.089 signage to this effect close to the mobile unit where we had listed out the 305 00:20:45.210 --> 00:20:48.730 resources that we offer. Yeah, and what are they? Not that sign 306 00:20:48.849 --> 00:20:52.160 was effective? I'm not really sure, but within that signage, so we 307 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.759 had like bullet pointed the resources that we offer. Free Medical Care, free 308 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:02.559 ultrasound, free baby shower. So we had those things listed. Yeah, 309 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:07.750 but above that we had really short phraseology that was we're here to help, 310 00:21:07.069 --> 00:21:10.750 something like that, and then that was designed to grab their attention. So 311 00:21:10.829 --> 00:21:14.509 if you're going to go into an explanation of resources and things like that, 312 00:21:14.990 --> 00:21:18.349 you really got to have wording that's going to catch their attention, give them 313 00:21:18.819 --> 00:21:22.500 reason to pause and then look at the rest of it. Yeah, I 314 00:21:22.579 --> 00:21:25.900 mean there might be for some of you guys that are listening, maybe you 315 00:21:25.980 --> 00:21:30.019 minister at an abortion center and just down the road is a pregnancy center that 316 00:21:30.099 --> 00:21:33.130 you work with, that you send MOMS to. So you might have a 317 00:21:33.250 --> 00:21:37.930 sign that says free ultrasound and then maybe under that you have some wording that 318 00:21:37.329 --> 00:21:42.730 maybe gives directions to the pregnancy center or some of the other resources that are 319 00:21:42.730 --> 00:21:48.039 available. If you're going to use a sign with with more wording, you 320 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:49.559 really got to have some of that wording that's right to the point, that 321 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:53.440 will catch their attention, that will draw them in to want to find out 322 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:57.000 more. Yeah, the more now, in this day and age, more 323 00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:03.990 is less and less is more. Look at billboards. There they don't really 324 00:22:03.029 --> 00:22:06.309 have a lot of words. If you look at a billboard that has more 325 00:22:06.390 --> 00:22:10.990 than like even one sentence on it, most of that contents not even being 326 00:22:11.549 --> 00:22:15.549 not even being right accessed. Yeah, yeah, and and so we, 327 00:22:15.980 --> 00:22:18.059 I'm sure we've mentioned this before, we had done a little bit of research 328 00:22:18.099 --> 00:22:23.859 about some of the words that are most going to catch an abortion minded woman's 329 00:22:23.859 --> 00:22:27.660 attention, and probably the top one was help. Yeah, hope is pretty 330 00:22:27.859 --> 00:22:32.809 pretty far up. Yeah, lest these empowering words you pulled. I mean 331 00:22:32.849 --> 00:22:34.609 you've got what how many? A hundred, like a hundred fifty, something 332 00:22:34.690 --> 00:22:38.250 like that, women on an email list and and we pulled them. Yeah, 333 00:22:38.450 --> 00:22:41.529 so these are moms that you had met out here at the abortion center 334 00:22:41.609 --> 00:22:45.160 that chose live. Yep, that said, hey, I wouldn't mind if 335 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:47.160 you sent me a scripture verse. And you do that. You say that 336 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.160 every morning, every mood, and we take the opportunity from time to time 337 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:53.960 to just pull them and say, Hey, we're thinking about this. Is 338 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:56.559 What we did with our T shirt design a couple of years ago. We're 339 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:00.230 thinking about changing our t shirt design and we gave them a couple options. 340 00:23:00.309 --> 00:23:03.710 I think we had like four or five options right, and we use our 341 00:23:03.789 --> 00:23:08.750 logo. Then we used help for you, then we use hope for you 342 00:23:10.069 --> 00:23:12.380 or something like that picture of baby in the womb. Yeah, and so 343 00:23:12.500 --> 00:23:17.339 we use a couple of different things and the help for you, above and 344 00:23:17.460 --> 00:23:18.779 beyond, was the one that they said this, fie, this would be 345 00:23:18.900 --> 00:23:23.339 most likely to reach me if I was going into the portion center, thinking 346 00:23:23.420 --> 00:23:26.809 back to when I was going in, if you people had this shore on, 347 00:23:26.849 --> 00:23:30.009 it will be most likely to catch my attention. And and but beyond 348 00:23:30.049 --> 00:23:33.529 a shadow of a doubt, when I have the opportunity to speak with the 349 00:23:33.609 --> 00:23:37.329 women, they will come over and talk to me. It's because they will. 350 00:23:37.490 --> 00:23:38.849 They will say what kind of help? What help do you have? 351 00:23:40.049 --> 00:23:44.079 It the word help. They need help. They are there because they want 352 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:47.400 to see what kind of help you can provide, if they're willing to come 353 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:49.759 and talk with you. There are some who aren't at that point. They're 354 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:53.200 not even willing to come and talk, but the ones that are are, 355 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:59.150 I think, oftentimes looking for a way out and that word help to them 356 00:23:59.750 --> 00:24:02.710 is saying there is a way out. Yeah, yeah, now, and 357 00:24:02.910 --> 00:24:07.470 this is in contrast to what I would naturally want to do, because very 358 00:24:07.509 --> 00:24:12.740 much I believe, as our ministry beliefs that God is central if we're going 359 00:24:12.779 --> 00:24:19.859 to change abortion. Yeah, but I'm not sure that verbiage talking about God 360 00:24:21.420 --> 00:24:26.769 is necessarily what is going to most often hook them to come and speak to 361 00:24:26.809 --> 00:24:32.210 you. We always bring it up super fast and and I think one of 362 00:24:32.289 --> 00:24:34.890 our he isn't with us but he's on the sidewalk with us, carries a 363 00:24:36.009 --> 00:24:38.319 sign that shot not murder. Yeah, and actually I think that is an 364 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:42.279 effective sign. It does make people it usually angers them, but it does 365 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:48.400 catch their attention. Yeah, and makes them think about God's word. But 366 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:53.710 in general I find that what they really want to see is a positive image, 367 00:24:53.750 --> 00:24:57.269 a positive image of vision of what could be and the word help. 368 00:24:57.349 --> 00:25:00.549 How will you help? Yeah, yeah, in a sense, of course, 369 00:25:00.710 --> 00:25:07.460 that's it makes sense to us right, right in our human minds, 370 00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:11.900 that the word to help, the words, yeah, things that would would 371 00:25:11.900 --> 00:25:17.059 appeal to their current situation. Yeah, will be most likely to get them 372 00:25:17.099 --> 00:25:19.180 to come over and talk to us. Yeah. I do believe, however, 373 00:25:19.740 --> 00:25:25.410 that using messages, again, short messages that talk about the Lord, 374 00:25:25.490 --> 00:25:30.569 to talk about his love for that baby can can be effective and I do 375 00:25:30.730 --> 00:25:34.569 think it's important if, if you've got the the the boots on the ground 376 00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:38.240 to use signage out there on the sidewalk. Yeah, it's a thing, 377 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:42.079 and I say this in the article that I wrote about signage. It's a 378 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:48.119 really unintimidating thing that people can anyone can do that. Kids can do that, 379 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.349 right. Yeah, families with kids can write. My kids come out 380 00:25:51.390 --> 00:25:56.190 and serve and I have them hold signs. Yeah, I have kids that 381 00:25:56.269 --> 00:26:00.430 are nine years old, my nine year old twins. They hold a sign 382 00:26:00.990 --> 00:26:03.700 we love you and your baby. That's another simple message and say they've held 383 00:26:03.779 --> 00:26:08.940 that sign before. Your baby is a blessing. There's another messages of signage 384 00:26:08.940 --> 00:26:12.180 that can can really reach mom's but yeah, again, anybody can can hold 385 00:26:12.220 --> 00:26:15.420 a sign right. Yeah, yeah, now, there's effective ways to hold 386 00:26:15.420 --> 00:26:21.210 signs and I won't go into that. You guys read the article, but 387 00:26:21.410 --> 00:26:25.769 I'll talk about how you need to smile and make eye contact. One of 388 00:26:25.809 --> 00:26:27.529 the things that we will warn about, though, and one of the reasons 389 00:26:27.609 --> 00:26:32.130 why we don't use signage really at the driveway here, is assigned can be 390 00:26:32.170 --> 00:26:34.799 a barrier between you and someone going into the abortion center. So if you're 391 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.799 trying to give out literature, I mean practically speaking, it's not good for 392 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:40.799 you to have a sign in your hand, right, because it's hard. 393 00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:42.480 I'll get yeah, you got to have a hand free to be able to 394 00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:45.400 wave and yeah, and then you of course want to smile and make eye 395 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:49.029 contact, but also a hand to offer the literature. Right. But signs 396 00:26:49.109 --> 00:26:52.630 can be a little bit of like, a little bit much when you're when 397 00:26:52.630 --> 00:26:56.269 you got a sign that you're looking at and someone's trying to offer you literature, 398 00:26:56.269 --> 00:26:59.349 it could just be too much. So we found that signs can be 399 00:26:59.390 --> 00:27:02.980 a barrier between someone taking literature or coming over and talking, no matter what 400 00:27:03.099 --> 00:27:06.180 that sign might say. Right. So we kind of use the signs away 401 00:27:06.180 --> 00:27:08.579 from the driveway and we don't want to indicate where the driveway is either. 402 00:27:08.579 --> 00:27:11.220 So I don't want to have good put on my sign on each sides of 403 00:27:11.259 --> 00:27:17.210 the driveway. Here, turn here, exactly the robable toronament boards want to 404 00:27:17.250 --> 00:27:21.970 do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so the families 405 00:27:22.049 --> 00:27:27.250 can hold signs and your signs can indicate kind of, I think, who 406 00:27:27.369 --> 00:27:33.880 you are also in terms of the signs that you predominantly use. And I 407 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.920 do think that there is we've talked in past podcast about different types of sidewalk 408 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:44.000 counselors. Yeah, more the evangelistic voice, more the prophetic voice, more 409 00:27:44.750 --> 00:27:48.109 some of them that have a gentler or coach some that are just more hard 410 00:27:48.109 --> 00:27:51.910 hitting into the Gospel. And I think the signs that you choose can kind 411 00:27:51.950 --> 00:27:56.029 of given an idea of who you are, yeah, as a ministry, 412 00:27:56.109 --> 00:28:02.420 and be either comforting and approachable or maybe sometimes just convicting. Yeah, and 413 00:28:02.819 --> 00:28:06.380 which do you want to be? Well, I think you show that sometimes 414 00:28:06.420 --> 00:28:10.700 very clearly by the signs they so choose. Yeah. Yeah, that's one 415 00:28:10.740 --> 00:28:12.490 of the reasons why, when we use the victim images, we use them 416 00:28:12.529 --> 00:28:17.609 away from areas where we would engage with a mother going into the abortion center. 417 00:28:17.650 --> 00:28:19.170 Right. So I don't typically like to use them at the driveway. 418 00:28:19.210 --> 00:28:25.329 Yeah, because they they are really they confront the mine, they confront the 419 00:28:25.410 --> 00:28:29.519 heart they're supposed to. So we will use them on the peripheral as the 420 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:33.599 MOMS are coming down and as they get closer to where we are stationed at, 421 00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.880 we use the more inviting signs. Yeah, baby is a gift from 422 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.509 God. I chose life, so can you. MOMS that have chosen life 423 00:28:41.789 --> 00:28:45.670 holding their babies. So that's just kind of a strategic thing that we do 424 00:28:45.869 --> 00:28:48.190 and we think it's pretty effective and I was thinking about that. We had, 425 00:28:48.430 --> 00:28:51.750 of course, this we always do. Talked about this a bit before 426 00:28:51.750 --> 00:28:56.259 we did this podcast and I was thinking about the strategic use of signs and 427 00:28:56.700 --> 00:29:03.019 thinking about God used signs clearly, and I was thinking about how Jesus used 428 00:29:03.420 --> 00:29:08.859 signs and I was specifically when we're talking about like miracles, sign Cole signs, 429 00:29:08.940 --> 00:29:12.650 not necessarily visual signs, although there certainly are visual signs in the Bible. 430 00:29:12.690 --> 00:29:18.130 But but I was thinking specifically about the story of Elijah after he defeated 431 00:29:18.170 --> 00:29:25.119 the Prophets of Bale and and then he's terrified because Jezebel is threatening him with 432 00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.720 his life and he just runs and he and he wants to die. Yes, 433 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.880 he's curled up on a mountain saying take me now, Lord, and 434 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.079 and the progression. I don't have the verse right in front of me and 435 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.190 maybe you can remember the exact progression, but the progression of how he was 436 00:29:41.309 --> 00:29:45.710 expecting God to come there at there was a very heavy wind, like almost 437 00:29:45.750 --> 00:29:48.789 a hurricane. Well, God was not in that. God was not in 438 00:29:48.869 --> 00:29:52.500 the storm. God was not in the heavy wind, he was in the 439 00:29:52.619 --> 00:29:59.660 gentle breeze and I was thinking about that progression, which at what point did 440 00:29:59.700 --> 00:30:04.339 Elijah crawl out of his funk and see God and relate to God? And 441 00:30:04.460 --> 00:30:08.890 it was when God was in the gentle breeze, the soft whisper. So 442 00:30:10.410 --> 00:30:14.849 I was thinking of that because I think again the progression of assign the strategic 443 00:30:15.009 --> 00:30:18.250 progression of Science, as a car is moving down the road and maybe you 444 00:30:18.410 --> 00:30:22.359 put some people with a certain type of sign up at the top of the 445 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:27.119 road and then you're progressing them to your message through your signs. Yeah, 446 00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:32.759 and I'm not sure what would be best. We've tried both but, like 447 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:37.029 you said, sometimes we put the victim image up at the top, that's 448 00:30:37.069 --> 00:30:41.549 like this is the horrific truth of what is at the bottom of that road. 449 00:30:42.029 --> 00:30:48.710 But then we play strategically the messages of hope and help and the MOM's 450 00:30:48.789 --> 00:30:52.140 holding babies that were saved from abortion, so that as they approach us, 451 00:30:52.220 --> 00:30:56.420 they're seeing the softness, and I was thinking it's like God coming to Elijah 452 00:30:56.579 --> 00:31:02.259 finally in the gentle whisper and they're more willing to pull over because it's so 453 00:31:02.380 --> 00:31:07.049 much less threatening. Yeah, absolutely, and so we look at things. 454 00:31:07.089 --> 00:31:11.930 I think we should practically been here in Charlotte. We look at things from 455 00:31:11.970 --> 00:31:17.970 a biblical, right also strategic perspective. Yeah, and we're trying to tweak 456 00:31:18.089 --> 00:31:22.720 things and just be most effective to give those babies a voice without compromising the 457 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.240 truth of the Gospel. Right course. The one thing I will say, 458 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.200 just looking at it from a practical perspective and as you guys are thinking more 459 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.950 about signage and what sign is to use. God has made human beings as 460 00:31:33.069 --> 00:31:37.750 visual creatures, and so all throughout the Bible you'll see God gives the children 461 00:31:37.789 --> 00:31:42.349 visrael signs. Ultimately, God gives the signs to Israel during the time of 462 00:31:42.430 --> 00:31:47.109 Jesus, of course. Yeah, so God knows that we're visual creatures. 463 00:31:47.619 --> 00:31:49.859 You think about I'm skipping a little ahead of the framework that we had. 464 00:31:51.059 --> 00:31:52.980 Yeah, but it brings to the mind to me is Ekiel. This is 465 00:31:53.019 --> 00:31:56.220 the example I give a lot of times. Yeah, and in Ezekiel, 466 00:31:56.220 --> 00:32:01.890 chapter four and verses one through eight, God deals Ezekiel to basically be in. 467 00:32:02.289 --> 00:32:07.529 The picture I get from this is like Ezekiel supposed to lay siege to 468 00:32:07.009 --> 00:32:10.890 Jerusalem. HMM, in like this model. So he's to make out these 469 00:32:12.009 --> 00:32:15.599 models and to lay siege and almost like with maybe if you were to and 470 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:21.440 today's Legos Age. Yeah, take some legos and really give a model for 471 00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.400 enact the battle and be enact the battle or re enact it really re enacted. 472 00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.680 Right, here's what's going to happen if you don't repent. And so 473 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.349 God gives Isekiel this charge to give this sign, and he's supposed to do 474 00:32:31.509 --> 00:32:36.190 this in the public squares that the people see. And then later on, 475 00:32:36.349 --> 00:32:39.470 as Ekiel, for versus twelve through fifteen, this is where God tells Ezekiel 476 00:32:39.630 --> 00:32:43.750 to cook his food, his food on human poop. Right, to lay 477 00:32:43.829 --> 00:32:45.259 on your side for I don't know how many days. He tells me to 478 00:32:45.259 --> 00:32:50.220 lay on one side. Yeah, that's for Judah and God's judgment on Judah. 479 00:32:50.299 --> 00:32:52.339 And then he's still lay on his other side for Israel and for his 480 00:32:52.500 --> 00:32:55.779 judgment that's going to come on Israel. And during that time he's supposed to 481 00:32:55.980 --> 00:33:00.329 cook his food on Human Poop. Yeah, well, was with the Lord 482 00:33:00.369 --> 00:33:02.089 deal with that, because that's defilement, right, it is. And so 483 00:33:02.250 --> 00:33:05.930 he played with the Lord and said, Lord, I don't wanted to file, 484 00:33:06.089 --> 00:33:07.769 never file myself. And Yeah, and so I don't want to defy 485 00:33:07.890 --> 00:33:10.930 myself, which you at least let me cook it on, think cow Dung. 486 00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:15.039 Yeah, and so the Lord allows him to do that, right, 487 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.440 and so he's summersive. God. The point is that's a sign. God 488 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:24.160 knows that we're visual creatures. God knows that human beings an image says a 489 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:28.069 lot of pictures, worse, a thousand words. And so that's why he 490 00:33:28.190 --> 00:33:31.589 gives his profits these signs to perform in front of the people. Right, 491 00:33:31.789 --> 00:33:36.309 you're not just like miraculous signs, and we do see those throughout. I 492 00:33:36.390 --> 00:33:39.670 mean the story, like you mentioned, of Elijah, right, this sign 493 00:33:39.789 --> 00:33:44.539 of fire coming down from heaven and consuming the sacrifices happened right in front of 494 00:33:44.779 --> 00:33:46.819 all the children of Israel and all the prophets of bail. That sign, 495 00:33:47.019 --> 00:33:52.019 which was a miraculous sign, ultimately encourage the children of Israel to side with 496 00:33:52.099 --> 00:33:54.660 Elijah and slay the prophets of bail. Now, later on, Elijah runs 497 00:33:54.700 --> 00:33:59.410 and, like you guys described, he has that sign from the Lord. 498 00:33:59.650 --> 00:34:02.009 Yeah, the Lord speaks in the steel, small voice. However, God, 499 00:34:02.089 --> 00:34:06.650 throughout the scripture, HMM, there are signs that God gives. Some 500 00:34:06.730 --> 00:34:08.329 of them are miraculous signs and some of them are just like this. Is 501 00:34:08.369 --> 00:34:13.599 ekil story, this sign of the Prophet. Yeah, also Asaiah. God 502 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.159 gives Isaiah the sign. And who is kind of weird and I don't want 503 00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:20.199 to encourage you guys to do this. Of course, that was old testament 504 00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.199 times, right. Yeah, and so he was supposed to walk through Drus 505 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.710 on the streets of Jerusalem naked and barefoot. Wow, I don't remember that. 506 00:34:27.869 --> 00:34:30.030 Once I remember that. Yeah, I'll dig for that, that passage 507 00:34:30.590 --> 00:34:35.150 before we wrap this this podcast up. But yeah, so he's supposed to 508 00:34:35.190 --> 00:34:39.699 walk through Jerusalem naked and barefoot. To think the implication is to show the 509 00:34:39.820 --> 00:34:43.980 slavery that the children visa are going to be brought into if they didn't repent. 510 00:34:44.420 --> 00:34:46.539 And so there was a sign. Now I don't think that's an effective 511 00:34:46.579 --> 00:34:50.739 sign to use that an abortion center. Nor do I think a cooking your 512 00:34:50.780 --> 00:34:52.730 food on poop on the sidewalk in front of the abortion center would be an 513 00:34:52.730 --> 00:34:57.690 effective sign. The point is, God knows where visual creatures and God used 514 00:34:57.849 --> 00:35:01.690 signs in the past and God will use signs now. We're assigned. Honestly, 515 00:35:02.010 --> 00:35:07.090 we are assigned. We have heard that how many times when a mom 516 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:12.880 chooses life and we asked her why and she'll say, I prayed for a 517 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:19.000 sign. We are people that that seek signs of what we should do. 518 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:23.309 Some people seek it through very ungodly means, but I would say a good 519 00:35:23.389 --> 00:35:27.909 number, maybe a majority, of the women that show up at the abortion 520 00:35:28.070 --> 00:35:32.389 center are praying for a sign of what God would have them do. And 521 00:35:32.989 --> 00:35:37.300 when they see us, I've had so many people say this, you were 522 00:35:37.780 --> 00:35:43.619 that sign, you were the sign of what God would would have me do. 523 00:35:44.820 --> 00:35:52.449 So signs are are just critical in in what we're doing at there and 524 00:35:52.650 --> 00:35:57.730 they can be us, they can be our clothing, they can be the 525 00:35:57.889 --> 00:36:07.360 the signs that we actually hold. So so don't neglect the power of the 526 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.760 use of signs. One of the signs that I was thinking of as I 527 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:15.400 was thinking of the Biblical Use of signs, was the rainbow, which has 528 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:22.829 been now stolen from us, or attempted to be stolen, by the LGBTQ 529 00:36:23.269 --> 00:36:30.230 movement. But the rainbow was was our sign given to us by God's covenant 530 00:36:30.269 --> 00:36:34.300 side. It was a of an and sign that God would never flood the 531 00:36:34.980 --> 00:36:40.539 world again and and that he was he was our salvation, he was our 532 00:36:40.739 --> 00:36:45.699 hope, and so he puts that rainbow in the sky to give us hope 533 00:36:45.860 --> 00:36:50.849 that he is there. Yeah, yeah, so Isaiah, Chapter Twenty. 534 00:36:51.050 --> 00:36:53.130 Okay, this is the naked Isaiah. Yeah, this is as as AIAH 535 00:36:53.170 --> 00:36:58.610 walking around naked. And it says in the year that Tartan came to Ashdod 536 00:36:59.449 --> 00:37:02.880 when Sargon, the King of Assyria, sent him, and he fought against 537 00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:07.159 Ashdod and took it. And that same time the Lord spoke to Isaiah, 538 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:12.800 the son of AMZ, saying go through the sat remove the sackcloth from your 539 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.110 body and take your sandals off your feet, and he did so, walking 540 00:37:15.190 --> 00:37:20.230 naked and barefoot. Then the Lord said, just as my servant Isaiah has 541 00:37:20.269 --> 00:37:24.869 walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and a wonder against Egypt and 542 00:37:25.030 --> 00:37:29.989 Ethiopia. So it wasn't against Israel, but it was against Egypt and Ethiopia. 543 00:37:30.099 --> 00:37:34.460 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians as priven prisoners and 544 00:37:34.619 --> 00:37:37.980 the Ethiopians as captives, young and old, naked and barefoot with their buttocks 545 00:37:38.019 --> 00:37:44.449 uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. So there's a sign that God used. 546 00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:47.090 Now, I don't recommend that people do that at the abortion center, 547 00:37:47.130 --> 00:37:52.210 but the point is God used Isaiah as a signed while ground, naked and 548 00:37:52.210 --> 00:37:54.650 barefoot for three years. That's a long time. That's a long time to 549 00:37:54.730 --> 00:37:59.800 be a sign in that way. But God uses visuals because God knows where 550 00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:04.519 visual creatures to to speak to our hearts. So he knows that the way 551 00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.840 to our hearts is through her ears and through our eyes, right, and 552 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:12.000 so he uses signs. And you guys at the abortion centers can also use 553 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.710 signs. So let's jump into real quick as we wrap this thing up, 554 00:38:16.309 --> 00:38:22.150 and we already kind of have talked about some of the placement of signs and 555 00:38:22.269 --> 00:38:28.460 things like that, but I touched on this, so I won't won't tearry 556 00:38:28.539 --> 00:38:32.780 here long. But, as I said, anybody can use a sign. 557 00:38:34.059 --> 00:38:37.099 Yeah, but if you just look as you're holding a sign, just like 558 00:38:37.179 --> 00:38:42.730 a angry gruff, people are not going to engage with that sign. Yeah. 559 00:38:42.969 --> 00:38:45.250 So a practical thing that I've learned just looking at some of the ways 560 00:38:45.289 --> 00:38:49.250 that the world operates. If you think about it, sweet frog, for 561 00:38:49.329 --> 00:38:52.530 example. Ever been by a sweet frog? Yeah, and there's other places, 562 00:38:52.610 --> 00:38:57.000 yeah, and other cities that they hire someone, they pay someone whatever 563 00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.039 minimum wage. Yeah, maybe ten bucks an hour, I don't know. 564 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.719 Right to hold a sign yeah, to smile, to wave, to make 565 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.559 eye contact, sometimes to twirl and twirl the sound around, flip the sign 566 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.989 around. Why? Why do they do that? Because they know that people 567 00:39:10.030 --> 00:39:14.949 are more likely to engage with a message that a human is connected to. 568 00:39:15.110 --> 00:39:17.949 Yeah, yeah, rather than just a message is propped up now strategically. 569 00:39:19.590 --> 00:39:22.550 If you don't have the manpower, and we don't want to a lot of 570 00:39:22.590 --> 00:39:25.699 times I don't want to take some of my really effective sideball counselors and put 571 00:39:25.699 --> 00:39:29.460 them on sign duty. Right, right. So I will put a sign 572 00:39:29.460 --> 00:39:31.139 on the back of my vehicle. I have a way to Bungee court a 573 00:39:31.219 --> 00:39:35.380 sign on the back of my vehicle. There's other ways to do it and 574 00:39:35.500 --> 00:39:38.289 you guys would have to different cities have different ordinances and different laws, and 575 00:39:38.369 --> 00:39:42.610 we actually fault with the city of Charlotte here to get the ability for us 576 00:39:42.610 --> 00:39:45.409 to play signs in the right of way, as long as they're not hindering 577 00:39:45.449 --> 00:39:50.130 traffic or whatever, and so we use like speaker stands to place them on 578 00:39:50.610 --> 00:39:52.440 right and you can. You can do that. But if you can, 579 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.320 if you've got the manpower to do it, have a person holding a sign. 580 00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.360 If you can do that, it's a lot more effective. They're smiling, 581 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:04.039 they're making eye contact. People are more likely to engage with that message, 582 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.630 yeah, than they are with just propit a sign against right whatever. 583 00:40:08.030 --> 00:40:13.710 And if you have a human being holding this sign, you can turn that 584 00:40:13.989 --> 00:40:19.269 sign to a very targeted audience. For example, I know that one of 585 00:40:19.309 --> 00:40:24.699 our councilors does have an abortion victim sign and when the pro abortion crowd is 586 00:40:24.780 --> 00:40:29.739 so loud that they just can't hear us, yeah, she'll hold that sign 587 00:40:29.780 --> 00:40:34.780 up and it's a big sign, so the people walking in can see that, 588 00:40:35.099 --> 00:40:37.369 yeah, and they see at that last critical moment, that's the image. 589 00:40:37.369 --> 00:40:40.409 Yes, is what you're about to do. I want to point out 590 00:40:40.409 --> 00:40:45.610 another kind of interesting fact about the signs that are in the facility where we 591 00:40:45.730 --> 00:40:52.000 use. Think about this sign that advertises the abortion center. Yeah, it's 592 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:57.719 tiny, it's the initials. It's not the name, unless they've changed it. 593 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.119 I believe it's just the initial yes, yeah, it is AP. 594 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:05.750 It's not even a sign to advertise the abortion center. It's a sign that 595 00:41:05.829 --> 00:41:10.150 says no. Trispassing right now, soliciting very bad no sign. Yeah, 596 00:41:10.269 --> 00:41:16.789 announcing the name of the abortion center. That to me speaks volumes. Yeah, 597 00:41:17.030 --> 00:41:22.579 about what is happening there. Yeah, it is something that is so 598 00:41:23.940 --> 00:41:30.420 shameful that even the abortion center knows that to put up a sign advertising this 599 00:41:30.739 --> 00:41:36.969 as an abortion center would be detrimental. Yeah. Yeah, I've often asked 600 00:41:37.010 --> 00:41:39.010 the question with these pro abortion people that are out there and they have their 601 00:41:39.050 --> 00:41:44.250 clinic parking signs. Yeah, they're holding up just pink silence. Is Clinic 602 00:41:44.329 --> 00:41:47.400 parking with an Arrow. Yeah, and I say what can the clinic like? 603 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.679 They make a lot of money. Can't they just get a sign and 604 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.039 put it out front when that kind of nullify your presence out here right, 605 00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:59.159 maybe take away your purpose? Yeah, and of course they maybe haven't thought 606 00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:01.869 it through like that, but I do wonder. Why don't they just put 607 00:42:01.909 --> 00:42:06.230 a sign up right, if they want people to know where the clinic parking 608 00:42:06.309 --> 00:42:07.989 is? Yeah, they just put a sign up. We see people lot 609 00:42:08.030 --> 00:42:12.110 of time getting lost. Why? Why? And they must know that. 610 00:42:12.230 --> 00:42:15.030 They know people get lust they pull into the wrong parking lot all the time. 611 00:42:15.230 --> 00:42:19.019 Yeah, they know that, and so here's an opportunity for us take 612 00:42:19.019 --> 00:42:21.539 advantage of the fact that they don't have a sign. I think it is 613 00:42:21.619 --> 00:42:25.059 that shame factor that people want to come to the abortion center and be hidden. 614 00:42:25.099 --> 00:42:28.699 They don't want people driving by. No one that it's an abortion center, 615 00:42:28.739 --> 00:42:31.210 right. Fact is a lot of people that drive by, believers that 616 00:42:31.289 --> 00:42:36.969 drive by. We've had people come just going to the pharmacy down the road 617 00:42:37.010 --> 00:42:38.650 from the abortion center, not even though it's an abortion center there, and 618 00:42:38.650 --> 00:42:42.530 they've been driving by there for years. Yeah, and didn't know until they 619 00:42:42.570 --> 00:42:45.239 saw us out there and of course we were assigned to them. Yeah, 620 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:50.159 and we've gotten people to combine and encourage us and even some people. One 621 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.119 lady came in volunteered for a couple of weeks with us because she drove bond, 622 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:57.760 saw us out there and saw some of Our signs. Yeah, couldn't 623 00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.389 see that it was an abortion clinic because they didn't have a sign out there 624 00:43:00.429 --> 00:43:05.429 right advertising their services. But she's all that we were there and the signs 625 00:43:05.469 --> 00:43:08.150 that we were using and started to engage with the abortion patients. Yeah, 626 00:43:08.429 --> 00:43:12.630 some guy last week drove by and gave us a boatload of money for a 627 00:43:12.710 --> 00:43:16.340 donation and because he knew who we were through our signs, through our shirts 628 00:43:16.940 --> 00:43:22.019 and through our words also, and and wanted to contribute to the cause. 629 00:43:22.219 --> 00:43:24.940 Yeah, so absolutely, signs are powerful. Bottom line, they they are 630 00:43:24.940 --> 00:43:30.809 a very powerful their biblical and they they can be used wisely or not, 631 00:43:31.329 --> 00:43:36.690 and we hope that kind of we've been giving tips about wise use of signage. 632 00:43:36.849 --> 00:43:40.329 Absolutely so we hope this podcast was a blessing you guys. Hope that 633 00:43:40.409 --> 00:43:45.000 we answered some of the questions that you guys may have had about signage. 634 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.800 I do want to encourage you again to get to that article. And what's 635 00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:54.000 the name of the article? Effective signage? Yeah, and so it talks 636 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:58.710 about just the effective use of signage. It talks about some of the points 637 00:43:58.710 --> 00:44:01.750 that we touched on, and so check out that article, share that article 638 00:44:01.789 --> 00:44:07.590 with your friends, go on to the printable resources tab that we have on 639 00:44:07.750 --> 00:44:12.179 the sidewalks for life website and you'll be able to print out some signs. 640 00:44:12.699 --> 00:44:15.099 They're free for you to use. We've have a literature there that you can 641 00:44:15.139 --> 00:44:17.460 print out. It's free for you to use. Some of that stuff will 642 00:44:17.460 --> 00:44:22.260 be updating as we've transitioned into with love life and right so some of that 643 00:44:22.380 --> 00:44:27.289 will be maybe the colors will change or something like that, but we're going 644 00:44:27.329 --> 00:44:30.289 to try to keep that up to date as much as possible. But Hey, 645 00:44:30.409 --> 00:44:34.289 shoot us out some more ideas. We did this podcast because of a 646 00:44:34.650 --> 00:44:37.730 request from someone who shot me an email. Shoot me out an email. 647 00:44:37.730 --> 00:44:39.239 If you guys have other subjects he wants to cover, we'd love to cover 648 00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:43.719 those subjects. Were going to encourage you guys as you're out there working on 649 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.119 the sidewalks and offering help and hope. In the name of Jesus, we 650 00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:50.239 want to keep you guys encourage. So if if you need some encouragement, 651 00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.989 if you have a question about ministry at the abortion center, if you want 652 00:44:52.989 --> 00:44:57.750 to come on board. Maybe you've got a burden to do ministry on a 653 00:44:57.829 --> 00:45:00.789 sidewalk, on the sidewalk at your abortion center full time. We want to 654 00:45:00.829 --> 00:45:06.510 equip you. We're doing a sidewalk training this week with folks that are coming 655 00:45:06.550 --> 00:45:09.900 in from all over the country. We're calling on our sidewalk missionary boot camp. 656 00:45:09.980 --> 00:45:15.300 Were raising up sidewalk missionaries across the nation and across the world. People 657 00:45:15.340 --> 00:45:17.539 have a burden who want to do this on a regular basis and we're equip 658 00:45:17.659 --> 00:45:22.449 people with some of what we're talking about, but a lot of other stuff 659 00:45:22.570 --> 00:45:25.090 in depth teaching of how to reach abortion minded MOMS, how to get churches 660 00:45:25.130 --> 00:45:28.369 on board with the ministry, how to get them out there praying and that 661 00:45:28.409 --> 00:45:30.530 sort of stuff. So we cover a lot of subjects. So if you 662 00:45:30.530 --> 00:45:34.090 guys want to get trained to do that, we'd love to get you into 663 00:45:34.130 --> 00:45:37.320 that loop and you can actually go to love life dot org slash America to 664 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:43.199 start that, and I'd love to hear from you guys. But whatever questions 665 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.079 you might have, whatever subjects you want us to cover, however you want 666 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:50.349 to reach out to us, please reach out to us right now. A 667 00:45:50.469 --> 00:45:54.070 D parks at cities for lifecom. She you can reach her at Vicossi Oregant, 668 00:45:54.150 --> 00:45:58.550 cities for Lifecom, and we look forward to hearing from you guys. 669 00:45:58.590 --> 00:46:09.380 But until next time, God bless give me o love for love, give 670 00:46:09.539 --> 00:46:19.210 me our loft for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. 671 00:46:22.929 --> 00:46:25.329 Nothing's too precious. And some met you