Using Amplified Sound at the Abortion Center

WEBVTT100:00:00.080 --> 00:00:05.679We've had women that have chosen lifebecause they heard somebody on the amplified sound200:00:06.000 --> 00:00:10.919in the in the waiting room forsome number one in particular, she was300:00:11.000 --> 00:00:16.199on the operating table and she heardover the microphone your baby is a gift400:00:16.239 --> 00:00:22.120from God. I Am Yours,I am yours, I am yours,500:00:22.480 --> 00:00:28.399and me Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to600:00:28.440 --> 00:00:33.920the Gospel Center Pray Life Podcast,a podcast designed to equip, encourage and700:00:34.039 --> 00:00:38.039challenge you in pro life ministry,and always with a focus on the Gospel.800:00:38.200 --> 00:00:49.159Stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Me.900:00:52.200 --> 00:00:56.119Welcome back to the Gospel centered prolife podcast. Appreciate you guys joining1000:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.159us and, as always, we'dappreciate if you guys would share this podcast1100:01:00.240 --> 00:01:04.000episode. I'm here. This isDaniel Parks. I'm here with Vicki Kessi1200:01:04.120 --> 00:01:11.519organ everyone, and we want tocover a subject today that we think would1300:01:11.519 --> 00:01:14.519be a blessing you guys. Wethink it would be an encouragement to you1400:01:14.560 --> 00:01:19.239guys to maybe use a what wesee to be a pretty useful tool in1500:01:19.280 --> 00:01:23.200your sidewalk out reach, and sowe're going to talk about speaking on a1600:01:23.239 --> 00:01:29.359microphone or using amplified sound. Right, right, and this this topic came1700:01:29.400 --> 00:01:33.359up because we had a new councilwell, actually she was not a new1800:01:33.400 --> 00:01:37.719counselor, she was an old councilorthat hadn't been on the sidewalk with us1900:01:37.760 --> 00:01:42.319for several years and came back aftermany years. And and and we realized2000:01:42.599 --> 00:01:47.239that her, what she was doingon the microphone was different than what we're2100:01:47.280 --> 00:01:52.519actually training people that do now.And so it occurred to me training on2200:01:52.680 --> 00:01:57.040how to use the microphone effectively isreally a good idea. Yeah, and2300:01:57.040 --> 00:02:01.000and so we're hoping that some ofthe main points that we bring up in2400:02:01.040 --> 00:02:07.759this article will help people if theirfacility or their city allows the use of2500:02:07.800 --> 00:02:12.199amplified sound. Yeah, and Iguess that's not true, right. Yeah,2600:02:12.199 --> 00:02:15.759that would be kind of the initialquestion. If I were you those2700:02:15.800 --> 00:02:17.800you are listening and I asked myself, can I use or should I use2800:02:17.840 --> 00:02:23.039amplified sound? The question would beare you legally able to use it?2900:02:23.280 --> 00:02:27.520Right, and because it varies somuch from city to city, from county3000:02:27.520 --> 00:02:31.360to county and from area to area, like one city in certain areas could3100:02:31.400 --> 00:02:36.680have no restricts on amplified sound andother areas, like residential areas, there3200:02:36.680 --> 00:02:38.599could be a lot of restrictions onamplified sounds. So there's no way I3300:02:38.639 --> 00:02:44.240can tell you exactly what kind ofamplified sound you can use or if you3400:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.520can use amplified sound at all.That'll be up to you to dig into3500:02:46.599 --> 00:02:51.560your local ordinances and you can justgoogle search it. Another thing I would3600:02:51.639 --> 00:02:54.080encourage you to do is maybe connectwith your local police department. I think3700:02:54.159 --> 00:03:00.159the probably the police department that's closestto the abortion center where your minister ring3800:03:00.199 --> 00:03:04.080out and your planning to use amplifiedsound at reach out to them. If3900:03:04.120 --> 00:03:07.240you can connect with someone who's higherup there, maybe a major or a4000:03:07.240 --> 00:03:12.639captain or whatever, and get somethingsolid like hey, you can do this,4100:03:12.680 --> 00:03:15.000but you can't do this, thenI would say definitely get it in4200:03:15.000 --> 00:03:19.199writing. Yeah, that's really ifyou're able to. Yeah, so that4300:03:19.319 --> 00:03:23.159if there's questions in the future youcan you can have it. Hey,4400:03:23.199 --> 00:03:27.800here's what captain so and so toldme. So that would that would be4500:03:27.840 --> 00:03:32.599helpful. Now I will say thatwe'll talk about this a little bit later,4600:03:32.639 --> 00:03:39.080but we do prefer natural voices toamplified sound because it's more inviting amplified4700:03:39.120 --> 00:03:44.680sound. Obviously it's loud and we'retalking about amplified sound. We're talking about4800:03:44.719 --> 00:03:47.479what we use here in Charlotte andthere's a couple of different things that this4900:03:47.520 --> 00:03:51.199could apply to. A could applyto it, like a bullhorn or something5000:03:51.240 --> 00:03:57.879like that. Anything that's electronically amplifiedwould be what we're talking about amplified sound.5100:03:58.280 --> 00:04:00.280So what we use here in Charlotteis a speaker, pretty good south5200:04:00.319 --> 00:04:04.120speaker on the speaker stand with amicrophone connected to it, kind of like5300:04:04.199 --> 00:04:11.159what you would use in a concertor you whatever. Right and yeah,5400:04:11.319 --> 00:04:14.120it's pretty loud. We can.We can actually be pretty loud here in5500:04:14.199 --> 00:04:19.040Charlotte. Other people use things likemaybe you would call it a voice box5600:04:19.160 --> 00:04:24.199or something like that, sort ofa small thing. You have a strap5700:04:24.240 --> 00:04:29.040and have it around your your neck. They're have kind of a head boom5800:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.079Mike. You guys have seen thesethings, I'm sure, where you're amplifying5900:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.680your voice. It's not super loudor anything, but it is still electronically6000:04:34.720 --> 00:04:40.519amplified sound. And so some citiesyou can use that, some cities you6100:04:40.560 --> 00:04:44.319can't. Some cities you can useit at certain decibel levels. I can't6200:04:44.360 --> 00:04:46.240tell you exactly what you can doin your cities. You'll have to dig6300:04:46.279 --> 00:04:49.800into that, but we are goingto talk about some principles of how to6400:04:49.879 --> 00:04:55.319use amplified sound effectively. Again,this is just a tool and so you6500:04:55.399 --> 00:05:01.959do have to be careful for thatamplified sound really being a turnoff to people6600:05:01.959 --> 00:05:05.199that are going into the abortion center. You don't want to be blasting them6700:05:05.199 --> 00:05:12.519with just a bunch of loud musicor loud preaching or whatever constantly. You6800:05:12.519 --> 00:05:15.199want to invite people to come overand talk to you, right. So6900:05:15.439 --> 00:05:18.040that's that's what you got to becareful for. But the purpose in using7000:05:18.079 --> 00:05:25.120amplified sounds simply is magnifying your voiceso that you can be heard. Yeah,7100:05:25.160 --> 00:05:29.040I mean we've had women. We'veheard testimonies over the years, several7200:05:29.040 --> 00:05:32.639testimonies of women that were inside ofthe abortion center. They could hear us7300:05:32.680 --> 00:05:39.480from the outside and something that willset on the microphone appealed to them right7400:05:39.639 --> 00:05:42.839that we would not have been heardif it was just our natural voices.7500:05:42.920 --> 00:05:47.040It was the amplified sound that spoketo their hearts and made them leave.7600:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.360Now, of course, we've heardmany women saying that people calling out,7700:05:50.399 --> 00:05:56.120just the natural voices, and that'sprobably been more of the the common theme.7800:05:56.199 --> 00:05:59.240I would say that because someone wason the sidewalk calling out with their7900:05:59.279 --> 00:06:03.360natural voice, that God use thatto change my mom's heart. So anyway,8000:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.720all of these things are tools,and so they amplified sound. I8100:06:06.759 --> 00:06:12.839would say, though some might viewit as a necessity and some scenarios maybe8200:06:12.839 --> 00:06:16.759it is a necessity, but reallyit's just another tool that that God has8300:06:16.800 --> 00:06:23.759given us to be able to deliverthe Gospel Right. So I say that8400:06:23.800 --> 00:06:29.040because there are some cities where it'sjust not going to happen. You cannot8500:06:29.160 --> 00:06:31.759use any any amplified sound at all. As matter of fact, one of8600:06:31.759 --> 00:06:35.079our guys, and Roy, ifyou're listening, appreciate you, brother Roy,8700:06:35.199 --> 00:06:39.199up in Michigan had some issues.He had a one of those little8800:06:39.439 --> 00:06:45.079voice boxes and was there. Imean could have been no louder than somebody8900:06:45.199 --> 00:06:47.680driving by honking their horn or something. There's no way it was much louder9000:06:47.720 --> 00:06:50.120than that. Or it was.There's no way. It was as loud9100:06:50.160 --> 00:06:54.439as that actually, and he gota citation for it, like, no9200:06:54.600 --> 00:06:58.240questions asked, just got a saltationjust to citation. Yeah, so no,9300:06:58.399 --> 00:07:00.279the law. Try and try andfind out the law before you step9400:07:00.319 --> 00:07:03.160out there, and I'll tell youto even if you know the law,9500:07:03.240 --> 00:07:11.160I mean you can always deal withpolice officers that are being knuckleheads and stuff.9600:07:11.199 --> 00:07:14.680That's why I say if you doget some kind of you if you9700:07:14.720 --> 00:07:16.439had a conversation going with the police, depart if you can get something written9800:07:16.519 --> 00:07:21.439down so there's a clear understanding,because even from one police officer to another9900:07:21.720 --> 00:07:27.519right they can change and they canapply this law or this rule. The10000:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.720best you can get an understanding.Sore. I don't want to scare you10100:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.800guys from using amplified sound. SoI want to say that very clearly because10200:07:33.839 --> 00:07:39.680I think it is a powerful tooland if you can use amplified sound,10300:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.680if there's an allowance for that,whether that be one of the little voice10400:07:42.720 --> 00:07:46.560boxes or big speaker whatever, ifyou can use it, I say you10500:07:46.600 --> 00:07:50.120need to use it. Absolutely.Yeah, but if it comes down to10600:07:50.199 --> 00:07:54.120not knowing whether or not you canuse it legally and you're going to deal10700:07:54.120 --> 00:07:58.680with citations like you don't want togo go around the mountain continually with the10800:07:58.680 --> 00:08:03.439police about amplified sound and completely bedistracted. Like God didn't call you out10900:08:03.480 --> 00:08:05.839there to stay in your ground foramplified sound laws. He called you out11000:08:05.839 --> 00:08:07.839there to speak for those babies.And so if you have to put a11100:08:07.920 --> 00:08:13.040lot of attention and energy in todealing with that stuff, then you're better11200:08:13.160 --> 00:08:18.240off to not use that tool thento be completely distracted with something else.11300:08:18.279 --> 00:08:20.160But if you can use it,yeah, use it, yeah, and11400:08:20.240 --> 00:08:22.839usually if you have it in writing, you you are going to be able11500:08:22.959 --> 00:08:28.000to avoid those kinds of distractions.I know that I have had to pull11600:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.879out a piece of paper with itin writing, show it to the policeman11700:08:31.000 --> 00:08:37.240who didn't actually know the law rightand and he then left me alone because11800:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.559I could prove that it was okay. So the purpose is obviously we want11900:08:41.600 --> 00:08:45.919to be heard. The danger ofamplified sound. As you are heard,12000:08:46.200 --> 00:08:48.559you're very loud. People are goingto hear what you say. So it's12100:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.799a ever, an important tool,but one use it with respect and knowing12200:08:52.799 --> 00:08:58.759that because you will be heard farand wide. We we always recommend that12300:08:58.840 --> 00:09:03.039are people be well rained right forthey go on, so we know ahead12400:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.720of time what the sorts of thingsthey're going to say, in the sorts12500:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.840of things that that they shouldn't say, but one of the major reasons to12600:09:09.919 --> 00:09:16.080use amplified sound for us in ourfacility. One you mentioned. They can12700:09:16.159 --> 00:09:20.480hear you in the building. Thesecond one is the pro abortion crowd here12800:09:20.519 --> 00:09:26.919in Charlotte is very loud, right, and they can. They use instruments,12900:09:28.159 --> 00:09:33.559drums, leaflowers and the bills,cowbell whistles, horns. We yesterday13000:09:33.600 --> 00:09:39.399they were using a rubber chicken thatthey could squeeze and it would make a13100:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.399horn sound. Sometimes feels like you'reat the circus. It feels circuses are13200:09:43.480 --> 00:09:50.399pretty loud. So we need theamplified sound to still be heard, right,13300:09:50.440 --> 00:09:54.360and we that's what that's one ofthe major reasons we use it is13400:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.399to be heard over the pro abortioncrowd because we are the true pro choice13500:09:58.440 --> 00:10:03.039people and we are the only onesoffering the choice for life. Right,13600:10:03.080 --> 00:10:07.039and if we don't use amplified sound, the women often are not going to13700:10:07.080 --> 00:10:09.879hear that choice for life. Yeah, you're going to hear a rubber chicken13800:10:09.960 --> 00:10:13.200honking right. And and so thosethose, I think, are the two13900:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.960main reasons. Right, so theycan be heard in the building, they14000:10:16.960 --> 00:10:22.440can be heard a long distance andand they can be heard over the the14100:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.360proportion Crad yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So, so what are some of14200:10:26.399 --> 00:10:30.919the things we've seen as a resultof using amplified sound? Yeah, well,14300:10:31.000 --> 00:10:35.159like I mentioned earlier, we'd havewe've had women that have chosen life14400:10:35.279 --> 00:10:39.480because they heard somebody on the amplifiedsound in the in the waiting room for14500:10:39.960 --> 00:10:45.320some number one in particular, shewas on the operating table and she heard14600:10:45.440 --> 00:10:50.440over the microphone your baby is agift from God. Yeah, and she14700:10:50.519 --> 00:10:56.000was like I can do this.Yeah, I'll say one kind of like14800:10:56.120 --> 00:11:03.080unintended effect was we had a guy, we volunteered with us for years actually14900:11:03.080 --> 00:11:07.919after this situation, who is livingin the apartment complex behind the abortion center15000:11:07.679 --> 00:11:13.120and living with his girlfriend sin andhere it us on the microphone. This15100:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.840was years ago. He hold it, hurt us on the microphone and ended15200:11:16.919 --> 00:11:20.200up walking through the woods from theback of the abortion center coming over and15300:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.240talking with US and ended up,like to the progression of things, repenting15400:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.039and moving out from his girlfriend's houseand surrender his life to Jesus. Actually15500:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.799lived with one of our one ofour guys who were on the sidewalk for15600:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.279for a while. That sounds sopretty cool. That was amplified sound that15700:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.320he was hearing in the apartment.Yeah, that's not what we want and15800:11:39.559 --> 00:11:41.120I do think we have to makeGod use all kinds of things. Just15900:11:41.120 --> 00:11:45.159because God uses something doesn't mean itshould be our normal practice. Yeah,16000:11:45.240 --> 00:11:46.559so I do think we need tobe careful. This is kind of like16100:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.080a springboard off of that as awarning that we don't want to just blast16200:11:50.120 --> 00:11:56.039the whole neighborhood around and tick peopleoff unnecessarily. I mean if we're being16300:11:56.080 --> 00:11:58.559loud enough to be heard and we'rewithin the legal boundaries, and that time16400:11:58.600 --> 00:12:03.120we we were within the laws thatthey had established at that point. And16500:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.600other people are ticked off of whatwe're doing, well, that's not our16600:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.679fault, as you take that upwith somebody else. But we don't just16700:12:09.759 --> 00:12:15.559want to be unnecessarily loud and obnoxiouseither. Right, right. Yeah,16800:12:15.600 --> 00:12:18.840I had a businessperson from down thestreet coming. They knew what we were16900:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.919doing because they actually had heard usfor over the microphone and they they happen17000:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.240to be supportive. We have alsohad some that can be angry because it's17100:12:28.279 --> 00:12:30.679so you do have to be careful. You don't want to anger people,17200:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.279but there are something of they I'lljust say if people get angry because you're17300:12:35.279 --> 00:12:37.960preaching the Gospel, that's one thing, right, and you know they have17400:12:39.039 --> 00:12:41.240to deal with that between them andthe Lord. Yeah, but if they're17500:12:41.240 --> 00:12:46.879angry just because you're being inconsiderate andjust obnoxious unnecessarily, then that's that's one17600:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.720thing. That's okay. You're goingto have to do with before the disrupting17700:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.399their business or disrupting a baby sleepin nearby neighborhood. None of that is17800:12:54.399 --> 00:12:58.000is our intention, right, andwe have to be careful about about that.17900:12:58.519 --> 00:13:03.720So some things not to say.Remember it's loud. So some things18000:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.240to really be careful of. Thejust the biggest category for me is do18100:13:07.360 --> 00:13:13.320not dishonor God. Right, yeah, no matter what you say, it18200:13:13.399 --> 00:13:18.679should be honoring to God. Yeah, I will say you mentioned earlier and18300:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.080I'll share with those who are listeningkind of our some of our rules.18400:13:22.240 --> 00:13:26.120I guess you'll say. Okay,we don't just let brand new people on18500:13:26.159 --> 00:13:30.759the microphite. If your brand new, you come out to shadow our team,18600:13:30.879 --> 00:13:33.799or even if you've been out therefor a couple of weeks and you18700:13:33.840 --> 00:13:37.600know you're handing out literature. There'scertain things we allow you to do in18800:13:37.639 --> 00:13:43.000the early stages of volunteering. Butwe withhold privileges for the microphone until they've18900:13:43.039 --> 00:13:48.759gone through the one hundred and twotraining normally. And we do that because19000:13:48.799 --> 00:13:54.679the microphone is a little more it'sa little more pronounced and it's something we19100:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.519can take a little more ownership of. Right. I mean, anyone can19200:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.320show up on a public sidewalk andcall out to people going in front,19300:14:01.519 --> 00:14:05.759are going into the abortions sound,whether they're in front. Anyone can show19400:14:05.840 --> 00:14:09.279up with brochures, whether there arebrochures or somebody else's, and hand out19500:14:09.279 --> 00:14:15.279brochures. Anyone can do that stuff. Those are things that we don't necessarily19600:14:15.320 --> 00:14:20.200have ownership of. But what wedo have ownership of is our microphone,19700:14:20.879 --> 00:14:22.879and if we're going to allow someoneon that microphone to me, they need19800:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.440to be vetted. We need tomake sure that they're going to say the19900:14:26.440 --> 00:14:31.639things that are in line with whatwe believe to be what God has called20000:14:31.720 --> 00:14:35.679us to make sure they're not preachinga false gospel. We are intentional about20100:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.879sharing the Gospel in the microphone.So you want to make sure the gospel20200:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.639that they're going to be proclaiming isconsistent. We want to make sure that20300:14:41.679 --> 00:14:46.080people aren't on the microphone making allowancesfor abortions. Right, I want to20400:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.480make sure that the people who areon the microphone are consistent. Like we20500:14:50.559 --> 00:14:54.240don't believe that it's right to aboard a baby because for any reason,20600:14:54.360 --> 00:14:56.720and I've had people come across myradar who want to volunteer, who think20700:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.159that rape is an acceptable reason tohappen of ortion. Yeah, if I20800:15:01.159 --> 00:15:03.799throw somebody like that on the microphoneand there's a situation where a woman is20900:15:03.840 --> 00:15:09.200in that terrible situation, you know, there's a that that plays out there21000:15:09.200 --> 00:15:11.399and somebody hops on the microphone andsays, you know, don't abort your21100:15:11.399 --> 00:15:15.399baby unless you've been raped, that'sgoing to be a problem. Right,21200:15:15.519 --> 00:15:22.039right. So you can't. Youcan't take care of of every issue and21300:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.120everything. I mean, you've beenon the microphone before and said dumb stuff.21400:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.519Yeah, I've been on micro getyour free abortions. Come over and21500:15:28.519 --> 00:15:31.960get your free abortions. I meantfree ultrasounds and I didn't. It took21600:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.440me a while before I realized whatI had said. Yeah, yeah,21700:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.080we've all done that. Yeah,I've said some dumb stuff on the microphone21800:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.840where I'm like, wait a minute, did I just say that? Right?21900:15:41.879 --> 00:15:45.720So that's one thing, yeah,but the theme of the message still,22000:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.440though, is going to be prettyconsistent and or is going to be22100:15:48.440 --> 00:15:52.519consistent with what we believe and whatwe what we want put out there.22200:15:52.679 --> 00:15:56.480Right. And so, yeah,again, we do with whole and it22300:15:56.559 --> 00:16:03.360kind of actually it serves as sortof like, I guess, an incentive22400:16:03.360 --> 00:16:06.840for people to stay plugged in andto attend the trainings, to because the22500:16:06.879 --> 00:16:10.720trainings are not just a box thatyou check. We're actually teaching people stuff,22600:16:10.799 --> 00:16:12.039right, right, so you can'tget on the microphone to you get22700:16:12.039 --> 00:16:15.360to one hundred and two. Somepeople are looking forward to that. Now.22800:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.279Some people are like, I don'tever want to get on the microphone22900:16:18.320 --> 00:16:19.960at all. In fact, mostpeople actually sought a people really that.23000:16:21.399 --> 00:16:25.360Yeah, yeah, but they willfind, I think we've heard this pretty23100:16:25.399 --> 00:16:30.080consistently, when they hop on thatmicrophone and even do something is simple,23200:16:30.159 --> 00:16:33.440is sharing just a scripture. Youknow, someone thirty nine versus thirteen and23300:16:33.440 --> 00:16:37.159fourteen or some some folks I've seenbrand new on the microphone will take our23400:16:37.159 --> 00:16:41.879brochure and just read out like theexplanation of an abortion. Just kind of23500:16:41.879 --> 00:16:45.919read page by page the brochure,which I think is a good way to23600:16:45.919 --> 00:16:49.200get started and get yourself used tohear in your own voice amplified, because23700:16:49.200 --> 00:16:53.600that's a little weird too. Andthen some people will grab the microphone and23800:16:53.639 --> 00:16:57.240just roll with it, you know, especially you get somebody who's a WHO's23900:16:57.240 --> 00:17:00.120a preacher, you let them goand they'll go for, you know,24000:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.160twenty, thirty minutes if you're notcareful. Yeah, we can talk about24100:17:03.160 --> 00:17:06.559that in a little we are goingto talk about that. I don't know24200:17:06.599 --> 00:17:10.680if we do get to that alittle bit further on. But one of24300:17:10.720 --> 00:17:15.400the things that I that I didas a new person on the microphone to24400:17:15.400 --> 00:17:19.160make sure that I was honoring Godand then our second point not speaking anything24500:17:19.200 --> 00:17:23.480that was not true, is Iwrote things down ahead of time. I24600:17:23.519 --> 00:17:26.519prayed about it, I thought aboutit and I actually wrote out what I24700:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.440was going to say when I wasstrand new, and I do recommend that24800:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.799to people who are at all nervousor you know, it's there for everyone's24900:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.200nervous the first time, but butwhen you get on the MIC, make25000:17:37.240 --> 00:17:42.039sure you've got a game plan ofwhat you're going to say so that you25100:17:42.240 --> 00:17:48.359kind of don't drone on and on, but also that you are honoring God25200:17:48.440 --> 00:17:52.839and everything you say. For example, I we would strongly discourage any kind25300:17:52.920 --> 00:17:57.559of singling someone out, to callthem names, to disparage, to insult.25400:17:57.599 --> 00:18:03.680You never do that. That wouldbe totally inappropriate use of the microphone.25500:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.160Yeah, and definitely like I wouldsay to to dig into that point25600:18:07.200 --> 00:18:12.279a little bit. Yeah, there, maybe you always have to leave allowance25700:18:12.359 --> 00:18:15.880for people to be led by theHoly Spirit. Yeah, but I would25800:18:15.920 --> 00:18:21.960say for the most part you wantto stay away from singling people out.25900:18:21.960 --> 00:18:25.920Of course calling names, but evenlike hey, you in the Red Hoodie,26000:18:26.319 --> 00:18:30.559just right, because the microphone moreis kind of for general proclamation rather26100:18:30.599 --> 00:18:34.519than particular proclamation. That makes sense. It does make sense, and I26200:18:36.160 --> 00:18:38.359like that you said let the HolySpirit lead you, because there are times26300:18:38.359 --> 00:18:45.240that there's a particular situation that personmay have walked in. I actually this26400:18:45.480 --> 00:18:48.960happened just this week. She wasa high risk mom and she was operating26500:18:49.039 --> 00:18:56.440under fear and I just felt sheneeds to hear what God has to say26600:18:56.519 --> 00:19:00.559about fear. Yeah, so thereare but I didn't say that, lady.26700:19:00.599 --> 00:19:04.000I just spoke to in the highrisk situation. I just started to26800:19:04.079 --> 00:19:07.599because that can be a general message. Kind of generalized it right, right,26900:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.799and I would say too, ifyou because there's been situations where you27000:19:12.240 --> 00:19:17.000meet a mom out on the roador maybe she's walking up to the abortion27100:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.160center. You get into an indepconversation, you get her name, yeah,27200:19:19.240 --> 00:19:23.000and then unfortunately she decides to goingto the abortion center. I would27300:19:23.039 --> 00:19:27.000really be careful even calling her nameout, especially in the microphone. Yeah,27400:19:27.039 --> 00:19:32.519but even if you're not use anamplified sound you still you don't want27500:19:32.559 --> 00:19:36.000to create a barrier between you andthat person. You want to gain trust,27600:19:36.240 --> 00:19:38.039right, and it's sort of abreach of trust, especially if you're27700:19:38.079 --> 00:19:42.839doing an amplified yeah, to broadcasttheir name to the whole parking lot or27800:19:42.880 --> 00:19:47.039the whole facility or whatever. Yougot to be real, really careful,27900:19:47.119 --> 00:19:51.440right. Also, because it isso easy to go on and on once28000:19:51.519 --> 00:19:55.680you get used to being on themicrophone. It's easy to get off track.28100:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.119Yeah, and stick to the threetalking points as one of the thing28200:19:59.200 --> 00:20:04.960we we train our people really thinkabout those three main talking point resources,28300:20:04.960 --> 00:20:08.640what God says about abortion, aboutthe baby, and then the humanity of28400:20:08.680 --> 00:20:15.200the baby and try not to veervery far, yeah, from those main28500:20:15.359 --> 00:20:18.960topics. Yeah. Now one ofthe things that I will kind of veering28600:20:19.000 --> 00:20:22.400outside of those three talking points andthat framework, that I will touch on28700:20:22.400 --> 00:20:27.000on the microphone, and I dothis often, but I sort of withhold28800:20:27.039 --> 00:20:32.079this until the end. So I'llkind of give a message around the three28900:20:32.079 --> 00:20:37.960talking points pretty much, but towardthe end I'll start explaining the abortion procedures29000:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.079exactly, which I think is powerful. I agree. I don't think that29100:20:41.079 --> 00:20:45.359we have to get unnecessarily in depthwith that and just gory details, but29200:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.400I do think they need to understandthe reality that they're going to dismember their29300:20:48.440 --> 00:20:53.079own child. Yeah, yeah,and explaining what the procedures going to be,29400:20:53.119 --> 00:20:56.839even describing like the abortion pill procedure, which some of these women have29500:20:56.880 --> 00:21:02.039they've kind of disconnected from abortion.The abortion pill is not an abortion in29600:21:02.079 --> 00:21:03.839their minds. Yeah, and thatline needs to be dispelled. So I'll29700:21:03.880 --> 00:21:10.319go after that and then I willalso sometimes get into the track record of29800:21:10.319 --> 00:21:12.680the abortion facility. So I mighttalk about the abortionist, if I know29900:21:12.680 --> 00:21:18.279who that abortionist is. I mighttalk about their track record, I might30000:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.200talk about the issues that they've hadsome of the things that they've said in30100:21:21.240 --> 00:21:25.200their past whatever, because we knowthese people aren't great. Yeah, but30200:21:25.960 --> 00:21:29.920I normally don't let that be mymain theme. I just want to drop30300:21:29.960 --> 00:21:36.160those nuggets of truth and I wantto sow seeds of doubt in the abortion30400:21:36.160 --> 00:21:38.000clinic that they put their trust in. I want I want them to see30500:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.160they should not have their trust inthat place because it's not a good place.30600:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.000Right. Yeah, that's that's agood point, and one of the30700:21:45.000 --> 00:21:51.440things as as in trying to keepyour time on the microphone from getting too30800:21:51.480 --> 00:21:55.400long, you really want to keepyour audience in mind. Your target audience,30900:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.119and by that I mean our ministry, is to the unborn children.31000:21:59.119 --> 00:22:00.640We're not going to reach them unlesswe reach the mom yeah, so there31100:22:00.640 --> 00:22:04.559are main audience, but I haveheard people get on the microphone, myself31200:22:04.640 --> 00:22:10.720included. I'm guilty of this,where I have just been so angered by31300:22:10.799 --> 00:22:15.160the pro abortion crowd that I startspeaking to them. Well, that's really31400:22:15.240 --> 00:22:21.279not good, but that's not whatthe purpose of the microphone is and we31500:22:21.319 --> 00:22:26.119really need to guard against that.I guarantee all of us are tempted because31600:22:26.160 --> 00:22:32.279we've been so angered and so unableto really kind of defend ourselves that sometimes31700:22:32.359 --> 00:22:36.279we fall into that trap and we'rejust warning you don't try to try to31800:22:36.400 --> 00:22:38.359keep in mind who you speaking to. You're speaking to the MOMS. If31900:22:38.400 --> 00:22:42.000there's no mom in sight, you'respeaking of the dad's because that mom is32000:22:42.039 --> 00:22:45.319in the building, and if youcan be heard in the building, you're32100:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.440always kind of speaking to the momright. Really is and should be your32200:22:48.480 --> 00:22:55.240focus. Yeah, I agree.So the next point is really important and32300:22:55.359 --> 00:22:56.880Daniel, I think you were thefirst one that kind of taught me about32400:22:56.920 --> 00:23:00.680this, about speaking for no morethan a few minutes at a time.32500:23:02.039 --> 00:23:04.759Yeah, I think you had said. If you think about it, white32600:23:04.880 --> 00:23:10.680noise, background noise, is whatanything becomes. If it's going on and32700:23:10.759 --> 00:23:17.079on and on right on, yourbrain just stops registering it, and so32800:23:17.359 --> 00:23:22.279we really should keep our the thetimes when we speak short, to the32900:23:22.319 --> 00:23:27.160point and then let there be aprocessing time, yea silence. Yeah,33000:23:27.240 --> 00:23:30.400yeah, I agree with that.Mean really five to ten minutes? Yeah,33100:23:30.559 --> 00:23:34.480I have gone longer than that,I probably. Yeah, I mean33200:23:34.559 --> 00:23:40.279I may consistently go over that muchtime. Yeah, but I do intentionally33300:23:40.440 --> 00:23:47.680pause and I do intentionally speak slower. So I and also intentionally make the33400:23:47.680 --> 00:23:52.119phrases and the words that I useas simple to understand as possible, because33500:23:52.119 --> 00:23:56.799we've got to think in the frameworkof a young lady who's scared. There's33600:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.880a lot going through her mind.There's a lot of stuff. So I'm33700:24:00.920 --> 00:24:07.000not going to speak in Super Complextheological phraseology and things like that. You33800:24:07.039 --> 00:24:11.160know right I'm not going to touchon in depth subjects that have to do33900:24:11.160 --> 00:24:15.559with abortion anything. I'm going tostay pretty surface level. I'm going to34000:24:15.599 --> 00:24:19.799sting with some powerful nuggets of truthand I'm going to let them just sit34100:24:19.920 --> 00:24:23.599there. Yeah, yeah, likeI said, I'll speak slower. I'll34200:24:23.599 --> 00:24:30.000give a phrase or I'll give maybea two or three minute something on one34300:24:30.039 --> 00:24:32.359of these subjects, one of thethree top points. Let it sit for34400:24:32.400 --> 00:24:36.480a second and then I might takeup from there. Now there are other34500:24:36.519 --> 00:24:40.759times I may get a little moreexcited and I might preach a little longer,34600:24:40.799 --> 00:24:44.880I might be more into like,yeah, I might go into ten34700:24:44.960 --> 00:24:48.240or twenty minutes, but I dotry to pause in between and give them34800:24:48.240 --> 00:24:52.400time to processes. Yeah, andI have heard sometimes counselor say I was34900:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.519on the microphone the whole day andthe whole day for us is three or35000:24:55.519 --> 00:25:00.200four hours, and I would justcaution people. If that's true, I35100:25:00.240 --> 00:25:04.599would tell you that's not a goodthing. In my opinion, you're probably35200:25:04.680 --> 00:25:08.880being tuned out. Yeah, largelytuned out. You've become background noise at35300:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.279that point. So I think itis really good to keep that in us.35400:25:12.519 --> 00:25:17.759I will say this, like Ihave observed this. This is why35500:25:18.400 --> 00:25:22.279we a couple of years ago puta framework in place of sort of like35600:25:22.359 --> 00:25:25.720time limits on the microphone and thingslike that. Yeah, because I have35700:25:25.799 --> 00:25:30.640observed when you're on the microphone thewhole time, yeah, you're interactions are35800:25:30.680 --> 00:25:33.759going to be less. Yeah,I'm telling you, it's absolutely true.35900:25:33.799 --> 00:25:37.839If you're on the microphone for asolid hour or a solid thirty minutes and36000:25:37.880 --> 00:25:41.880you take back up another thirty minutes, another thirty minutes or whatever, you36100:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.920will see that your interactions will beless right, and I a goose that.36200:25:45.039 --> 00:25:48.119Yeah, it becomes like a barrier, becomes more like you're preaching at36300:25:48.200 --> 00:25:52.279them rather than inviting them to comeand engage with you, because that's what36400:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.359you want and that is sub toengage with. That is such a good36500:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.720point. It is one of myconcerns when you get someone who is trained36600:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.119as a street preacher. Yeah,and they come out to the abortion center.36700:26:03.160 --> 00:26:07.039They are delivering a message and theyoften delivered very well, but it36800:26:07.079 --> 00:26:11.640often shuts down interaction because it's you'resending out a message but you're not really36900:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.400inviting through periods of silence. Yeah, that for them to come and talk37000:26:15.480 --> 00:26:21.200with you. So, in fact, I remember flip one time coming to37100:26:21.240 --> 00:26:25.799me and saying Vicky stopped droning,and I think what he was saying was37200:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.079be quiet more and and you're justgoing on and on and on and on37300:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.160with a monotone kind of voice.So be careful that you're not droning.37400:26:33.400 --> 00:26:38.559Yeah, sharing the Gospel succinctly.We had our people practice sharing the Gospel37500:26:38.559 --> 00:26:41.680in five minutes. Right. Iwent home and practice that and I asked37600:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.680every all the cancer's practice that.Yeah, if you can't do it in37700:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.200five minutes, you don't know theGospel. Right. Yeah, now,37800:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.319you're not going to get into allthe INS and outs through the Gospel,37900:26:51.599 --> 00:26:56.119but hit the main points and atsome point when you're on the mic,38000:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.640share the Gospel. But if youcan't do it in less than five minutes,38100:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.640you're ably going to lose your audience. Yeah, they're not there to38200:27:02.720 --> 00:27:07.759listen to a concert or, youknow, a Soliloquy for for half an38300:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.759hour. So share at succinctly.Yeah, yeah, I agree with that38400:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.640and I don't know that we haveand I'm not out there as regularly as38500:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.480I used to be, but whenI was out there we sort of have38600:27:18.759 --> 00:27:25.319a flow of things and nine twentyor so, right before the right after38700:27:25.359 --> 00:27:27.680the doors opened in the patients areinside, we want to give kind of38800:27:27.720 --> 00:27:32.799a general proclamation touching on the threetalking points, and an hour later we38900:27:32.839 --> 00:27:34.839do the same and then during theend of day, wrapping up, we39000:27:34.880 --> 00:27:41.720want a Gospel Message of Gospel Proclamationover the place. Be Intentional about preaching39100:27:41.920 --> 00:27:47.920the Gospel Right now. Obviously inall that you're saying you're weaving scripture in,39200:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.039you're weaving the Gospel in, butwe try to be intentional about every39300:27:52.119 --> 00:27:57.799day that we're out there we wantto have a clear proclamation of the Gospel39400:27:57.839 --> 00:28:06.160that's laid out succinctly, five minutesor less and just just to be obviously39500:28:06.240 --> 00:28:11.759to give the Gospel. It's unleashthe Gospel Right. It's the power of39600:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.839God to salvation, but also tohonor the Lord, and that's being out39700:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.440there like God. We're out hereto bring the Gospel, not just some39800:28:18.519 --> 00:28:23.160pro life message or whatever. That'sright and we have kind of not veered39900:28:23.200 --> 00:28:29.000away from that. We don't dothat as often, mostly because so much40000:28:29.000 --> 00:28:33.720we need the microphone now as thecalling out that we would have been doing40100:28:33.759 --> 00:28:38.279by our voice right because of thenoise that the pro abortion crowd is,40200:28:38.359 --> 00:28:42.680yes, making out there. Butbut there are a couple of things to40300:28:42.680 --> 00:28:48.079be aware of. I would nottalk about abortion pill reversal early on,40400:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.559right before an abortionist is there,because you're giving them an out. I40500:28:52.599 --> 00:28:57.319would not talk about God's forgiveness beforethe abortionist arrives, before people are coming40600:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.000out, for the same reason.You don't want to be careful that what40700:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.799you're saying is not going to givethem an out to have the abortion in40800:29:03.839 --> 00:29:08.119their mind and then you know thethey can just then do the abortion pill40900:29:08.160 --> 00:29:14.240reversal or they can just then askGod's forgiveness. That would be the wrong41000:29:14.319 --> 00:29:18.519message. And then one other notto do. Don't call out on the41100:29:18.599 --> 00:29:26.839microphone while and unamplified counselor is callingout. Let them finish and let them41200:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.039speak unless they can no longer beheard. Yeah, yeah, and we41300:29:30.160 --> 00:29:34.079use hand signals if we have sincewe're a hundred fifty feet away from the41400:29:34.119 --> 00:29:38.519clinic. We're on the microphone.It's not like we can communicate very easily41500:29:38.640 --> 00:29:42.160with each other. We have to, you know, kind of put your41600:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.039hand up if you're talking. Youknow, always watch for someone to put41700:29:45.079 --> 00:29:49.480their hands up over their mouth orwhatever so that I know they're talking.41800:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.519I shut it down if I'm onthe microphone. Yeah, let them talk41900:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.440and that I'll take back up fromthere. Yeah, one thing as we42000:29:56.440 --> 00:30:02.480wrap up that I want to talkabout, and maybe we can debate this42100:30:02.519 --> 00:30:07.000a little bit. Okay, butit's music, playing music. Oh yes,42200:30:07.079 --> 00:30:12.000yeah, and compress cons go aheadwith your feelings first. In time42300:30:12.039 --> 00:30:18.359past we had played almost the wholetime we're out there, music over the42400:30:18.400 --> 00:30:23.240amplified sound. Now, it wasalways music that had a sense of sobriety42500:30:23.319 --> 00:30:27.039to it. I don't think peppy, happy music is a good thing to42600:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.279be playing out there. I thinkwe do need to be careful. We42700:30:30.359 --> 00:30:34.920certainly don't want to be playing secularmusic right, but I do think that42800:30:36.039 --> 00:30:42.000you can, you can create anatmosphere of worship and sobriety for the people42900:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.480who are ministering out there by havingmusic now. You don't want it so43000:30:45.519 --> 00:30:49.319loud that it drowns everybody out right. You don't want that and I do43100:30:49.440 --> 00:30:53.039think that there's a sense in which, especially if you're playing music with with43200:30:53.160 --> 00:30:59.200lyrics to it rather than just instrumentalmusic like you're creating that that sort of43300:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.960barrier because you're blasting music out thewhole time, because quite likely, if43400:31:02.960 --> 00:31:04.480you're playing music, you're playing itthe whole time and then you shut the43500:31:04.559 --> 00:31:08.240music down, to speak. Thatthat's something I would I would kind of43600:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.440rethink. Now one thing again,there's kind of a debate here. One43700:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.039thing that it does do, it'sit gives you authority over the atmosphere and,43800:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.680especially when you're being worshipful and thepeople that are out there being worshipful,43900:31:18.759 --> 00:31:23.200there's kind of this this natural authoritywhere you're actually taking over the atmosphere.44000:31:23.240 --> 00:31:27.039Then there's a spiritual authority. You'reworshiping the Lord, you're magnifying him.44100:31:27.079 --> 00:31:29.960So I think there can be abalance. There's a lot of things44200:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.759to consider in that. I woulddefinitely seek the Lord about that. But44300:31:33.759 --> 00:31:34.920what you don't want to do.For sure, if you're going to play44400:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.599music, especially if we're going tohave it going the whole time, you44500:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.640don't want to drowned out. Thepeople who are using their natural voices can44600:31:41.720 --> 00:31:48.480reach out to the women going.Yeah, so I I love music when44700:31:48.559 --> 00:31:55.480it's again in not ongoing. Yeah, it is difficult for me. I'm44800:31:55.519 --> 00:32:00.000I'm not distracted by the pro abortionpeople, but I am distracted by music.44900:32:00.440 --> 00:32:06.440Yeah, and it takes if themusic is on and I have to45000:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.480either if someone turning it off whileI'm calling out or I have to call45100:32:10.559 --> 00:32:15.880out over the music. For me, that is difficult. That has always45200:32:15.960 --> 00:32:22.880been difficult. So I think musiccan be really, really powerful out there,45300:32:22.920 --> 00:32:27.480but again, I think for meit's better if it's in spurts,45400:32:27.519 --> 00:32:31.480not constant, and that maybe there'ssomeone there by the microphone manning the music45500:32:31.519 --> 00:32:37.079and will turn it down when someoneis calling out or even having a long45600:32:37.119 --> 00:32:42.599conversation so that it does not becomea distraction. Yeah, I know,45700:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.319one of the things to always teachwhen we talk about recon at the abortion45800:32:46.359 --> 00:32:51.240center knowing what's going on, beingaware. Yes, because you can catch45900:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.480a lot of things if your eyesare open and you're aware of what's going46000:32:53.559 --> 00:32:59.839on there. You can see differentpeople going in and out. Also awareness46100:32:59.839 --> 00:33:02.599and sounds and noises, like youcan pick up on conversations that are taking46200:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.400place over in a vehicle that youcan maybe address and certainly be praying for.46300:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.680If there's, you know, somefighting going on between a couple or46400:33:09.680 --> 00:33:12.640something like that, that can youcould pick up on that. And if46500:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.680you get music playing you're not ableto pick up on some of the son46600:33:15.720 --> 00:33:17.839of the sounds that you could hear. That could make you more aware of46700:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.200your surrounding. So just things toconsider as far as that goes. Yeah,46800:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.480but I think we're done with thispodcast. I think you've given you46900:33:25.480 --> 00:33:30.279guys some tips and some just thingsto be aware of. So we hope47000:33:30.319 --> 00:33:34.519this podcast was a blessing to you. We always encourage you guys to reach47100:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.119out to us. You can reachme, Daniel at love life dot work.47200:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.559You reach her Vicky at Love LifeDot Org. We'd love to hear47300:33:39.599 --> 00:33:44.480from you, maybe some suggestions ofother episode subjects that we can do.47400:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.920Also, we encourage you guys togo to our sidewalks for life website,47500:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.720where we often put articles out andwe'll have an article out about what we47600:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.279just covered in this episode on sidewalksfor life in equipping articles. There's a47700:33:55.359 --> 00:34:01.319tab their equipping articles. And thenalso we have a podcast website, Gospel47800:34:01.400 --> 00:34:07.200centered prolifecom, where you can lookat all of the archives of all the47900:34:07.319 --> 00:34:12.079episodes. I think we're at episodea hundred and thirty seven or something like48000:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.920that. Wow, and we've covereda lot of subjects. So definitely encourage48100:34:15.920 --> 00:34:20.519you guys to dig into those.But with that will wrap this thing up.48200:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.599Appreciate you guys listening. Until nexttime. God, bless God,48300:34:22.639 --> 00:34:39.199bless y'all. Love for love ofgive me our life for gratitude. I48400:34:39.239 --> 00:34:50.159know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious since I met you.485-->