Training: Necessary Materials

0:00 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours and me Lord, I am yours. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. In this episode we're going to continue to do some training and we're going to talk about some of the necessary materials and things to have in your outreach at the abortion center. Stay with us, I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcasts. Appreciate you guys tuning in and we'd appreciate, as always, if you guys would share this podcast episode with others to help encourage other folks that want to get involved in sidewalk out reach at their abortion center or just get involved in speaking for the unborn.

0:51 There's a lot of ways to do that. Our course, our particular focus is on the sidewalk and trying to encourage people and raise up people to get involved on the sidewalks at their local abortion center. I would encourage you guys just mentioned something that I've mentioned the past couple of episodes is that we do, on a monthly basis, Vickie and I, a sidewalk out reach training, what we call sidewalk out reach one hundred and one, and we do that online. It's via zoom, and so folks who want to get involved with that, if you want to just reach out to me, Daniel at Love Life Dot Org, you can. I'll send you over the application that you'd have to fill out to do that. We just want to a little bit of information from you. One of the things we want to make sure that you're a believer in Jesus, because it won't folks on board that believe in Jesus and to believe the Gospel is is what we need to be bringing to these abortion centers. And also want to make sure you're connected to a local church. We believe it's very important to have the accountability and the encouragement that comes from a local church. There's a few other things that we ask of that application. Not to in depth, but in depth enough, I think. So. If you guys want to get just some sidewalk out reach training, you can reach out to me and I'll get you the information getting in the right avenues. If you want more of a larger overview of love life and what God is doing through love life, and we really feel like God is doing and raising up sidewalk missionaries, we have a biweekly online it's not. I guess kind of a Webinar format called discovered love life America.

2:21 We do that bi weekly and kind of gives you an overview of the sidewalk outreach ministry, Sidewalk Missionary Ministry, Church engagement, all the different components of love life. So that's discovered love life America and you can just go to love life dot Org America and there's a sign up at the bottom of the page there and you can sign up to be a part of that and then they're at the end of that. There's a there's a survey that will come to you and that's another way you can get connected with our sidewalk out reach or potentially get connected to become a sidewalk missionary. So anyway, that's all I'm going to say about that. Any clarity on that, please shoot me over to email Daniel a love life dot org. And with that we're going to get into our episode. We've been doing some training episodes. We've thought to take our sidewalk out reach training that we do on a monthly basis and go more in depth than we're able to do in a zoom training and to dig into some of these topics the last topic that we talked about is preparation and the information that's necessary for you to gather information. What information do you need to have? If you didn't check out that episode yet, please go back listen to that episode. Very important. There's information that we need.

3:37 This time we're going to talk about the necessities. These last two episodes, this episode, in the episode before and believe the episode before that. Pretty practical? Yeah, not, not really. I guess I want to say spiritual. Everything we do for Christians is spiritual, but really just in the the practical, the nitty gritty stuff, the basics of what you need to be able to go out there. Yeah, we talked about information. We talked about what some of the stuff you need to know. So, anyway, check that episode out and stick with us. In this episode we're going to talk about gathering necessities and some of the things we're talking about in necessities, I mean we even get down to, and I think we shared this in the last episode a little bit, is wearing some good shoes right, being prepared, just practically being prepared with, you know, being warm enough right, having warm enough clothing. Yep, all of that stuff we're probably gonna maybe in a little bit repeat a few of the points that we made last time around, but not really maybe more expound on those points. Right.

4:42 Yeah, but one of the first things we want to encourage you, guys and just gathering necessities is something that we've talked about before and that's having a list of local and national resources. What are we talking about, Vicky, when we're talking about a list of local and national resources? It's one of our three talking points, which will get into, hopefully in a couple more episodes. We'll talk about the three talking points and break that down a little more. Right. But resources is one of our three talking points. What do we mean by the yeah, yeah, resources is just, quite simply, what will help them in whatever obstacle they faced. What? What is the most helpful things that they need, services, whatever. And I think we've mentioned in the past that we have pulled the women that we work with who have chosen life and we've asked them what the single most important word they heard that help them make a choice for life, and it was overwhelmingly the word help. They want help. oftentimes they think that's the most important thing and really, when you boil it all down, it's not that they need help as much as they need a heart change. They need a heart change towards God and the sanctity of that of that precious life that they carry in the womb. But what the reasons? So the resources do two things really. First of all, it says, okay, you want help, we got help and and you list off the resources. But also what it can do is expose the their heart. And when you've listed all the help

6:15 that they have identified as needing and they're still wavering, they're still thinking abortion is the answer, you've just shown them it's not your circumstances, it's not the help that you need, it's the heart that is deceived and rebellious against God. So local and national resources. National because we are expanding. Love life is expanding throughout the nation. The goal is, of course, to be a Christian presence at every one of those seven hundred abortion centers that currently don't have Christian presence at them. And so knowing the national resources helps because, first of all you can help each other and and be able to recommend resources that would apply no matter where you are. But also people that come to abortion centers often come from very far away. For sure that happens here.

7:12 We're one of the largest abortion centers in the southeast. We get people from Florida, Georgia, Tennessee all the surrounding states, and part of that is because people don't want to go necessarily to an abortion center in their own community because they'll be seen. Yeah, and they're ashamed. Yeah, absolutely, they don't want people to recognize them. But so we touched on local resources in the in the last podcast, but one of the things that we thought would be valuable in this one was going into a little bit more depth about that list of resources. And so we have an article accompanying this, as we often do, so you can all read through what we wrote out. But we wanted to go over just some of those local resources that you might not necessarily think about as being valued. About valuable to find out.

8:01 So where can we first of all go for resources? We talked about that at least. We always tell for people to go is to Google. That's where we go. That's where we found the resources, right, right, and there's there's things within Google. I know you have here written at Berthacom, which is a it has resources by Zip Code. That's really valuable. Free things by ZIP code. So and they have a whole wealth of free things, not just for a pregnant mom. But when when MOM's list, one of the top things we hear is finances. Yeah, that that they need help with finances. We don't give money and we don't recommend that anyone gives money because you just never know what that's going to go towards. But if you can list and come up with resources that normally people would have to be spending money on, that helps with their finances. And so aunt Bertha has all of these. It's wwwacom. Yes, and it's not like it's a Christian website or anything. It's just a website that's compiled free resources, frees stuff, avenues, right people to go and things for people to take advantage of across the nation. Well, so google is a great, great resource. And another thing are the churches themselves. Yeah, if you go to the churches and say that, Hey, what, what are you already offering? Like child care is one of those things that maybe you could offer for free to to a pregnant mom. So let's see. So I'm going

9:33 to talk real quick because we're talking about having this stuff, having this compiled. What format now. I think we've shared this also, that we have a particular format that we're sharing their resources in. But let's talk a little bit about what format we're talking about. So what we did was, as we're compiling the resources, as soon as it was more than four or five you got to organize it. Sure, so we have a table of contents organized alphabetically. I think I'm not even positive about that. I think it is so that it's easier for them to find that. And we have one that is for our counselors because there's a lot of confidential information on there.

10:13 There might be personal cell phone numbers on there that you don't want to give out, for like the doctors that will see him for you, the doctors like that. That's right. We don't share that information with anybody and everybody. That's right. You only want it, you want your counselors. There are some resources that have said they do not want the mom's calling them. They want only a counselor calling them for the referral. Sure so we have a general resource guide, you know, organized alphabetically, the the different resources that we put out on our frontline team group. That only are our councilor see. And then out of that we've developed a pamphlet, general resource pamphlet, which is smaller, again, organized by you know, with a table of contents organized alphabetically, and that's what we hand out to the MOMS, where we've already checked everything that's on there and made sure that this is something that's okay to go out to the general public. So is that? Does that answer your question about how you know it can be as so the booklet we have, it's basically a booklet and right just necessarily, even a pamphlet that we can give and we don't just hand those out to anybody and everybody.

11:20 But if we get into an indepth conversation with the mom, with the dad or whatever, right and we start hearing about the needs for resources, we have that booklet that we can give them. We can go through and either highlight or underline the certain places that they can call. We want to kind of put some of that burden off on them as far as digging for those resources. Right, we've compiled them for them, but here's the numbers you need to call. And there are some of those resources, like maternity homes and things like that, that they would have to call anyway. We could call and we could say, Hey, we have a person here, but they'd ultimately need to talk to them anyway. Right. So that's a booklet that we have, but maybe you've just got a short list of resources. Mean, one of the things that we do on the back of our brochures that we give to the women going in, and this is everybody gets this, everybody that will stop and take it right on the back of that, we've actually made up a sticker that has our local pregnancy centers in the maternity homes and adoption agencies and things like that on the back of that sticker we just kind of slap on there. It's a quick one glance. They can look as each city that they might be from. So Charlotte, don't have the pregnancy center in Charlotte. In Greenville, South Carolina, have a pregnancy center there to have the phone number so they can call, and then again the different maternity homes, pregnancy centers, things like that. It's a real short list, yeah, of some of the most pressing needs that people come and I think on that also is where the national sorts of things would be, like a national domestic hot line, domestic abuse hotl right, if

12:50 you've been harmed in an abortion the legal aid or whatever hot line, or abortion workercom again, a national, yeah, site that will help abortion workers. Sex Trafficking. There's sex traffic contract there for a sex trafficking organization, right, if they're being trafficked. There's a little bright blurb kind of on the back of our pamphlet that talks about out that as well. Yeah, yeah, so those are kind of the national ones that everybody. Those are going to be needs that you're going to find at every abortion center and and their nationwide those that those resources and help its nationwide. Yeah, but you could do something as simple as making up on your printer at home, right, just a quick little bullet pointed categorized like maybe say pregnancy centers as a title there, and then under that list your local pregnancy centers than maternity homes as a kind of a title or subject topic there, sub title, and then list those up underneath and just slip it in the brochures that you hand out. You don't have to make up a sticker and put on the back.

13:52 You can do that. Yeah, be maybe better and less problems. You know, I know one of the things being at the abortion center. Being on the sidewalk there and trying to hand out literature, you can drop stuff. I see people dropping brochures. One of the reasons why we use everything as a sticker. We kind of stick it into the brochure if we add additional things right, because things just get dropped and you know, I've seen people have the tracks, Gospel tracks, but in also have a prolife brochure or whatever, and then they'll have something about, I don't know, stds or something like that, and they'll have the brochures will just all be laying on the ground because they're they're not compiled in such a way where they stay together. So we make all that kind of a sticker form just so we can be real quick and hand that brochure to they get them the most information that we can into their hands. Yeah, but if you're just starting out, you may not yet have that kind of resources available to you and just sticking it's having that list. And one of the complaints I've heard from the pro socalled choice people is all you've done is is put in resources that they could have found themselves. That's often true, sure, but they don't their women in crisis. They may or may not know that these resources are available, and when you've got help that outlines every area all in one neatly compiled place, it really can instantly calm their fears and I've seen that over and over again. That and I hear over and over again. I had no idea that there were all these resources, so I wanted to list just some of them just so that you know some of the things you can google

15:26 in in your area and find. But Housing, yeah, both Christian and Public Christian housing. You're going to have to dig. Churches are good source for that. PRC's pregnancy resource centers are a good choice for that. In terms of secular government housing, you can just google. You'll find that right away. Child Care, big deal. Contacting the local churches, finding out if they already have childcare programs. Most communities do have some sort of already low cost child care programs. Finding out about them, calling them, finding out if they would even be maybe offer a free child care for mom who has chosen life. We talked about Ambertha. That's a great one. Free, free resources by ZIP code, Food Pantries by ZIP code. You can find that if you google again. They probably know that there are such a thing as food pantries. Most of them do. But if you've got it organized, especially Church Food Pantries, which is often times where they are.

16:25 There's also some secular ones, but you've got that by ZIP code and the hours of operation, maybe the phone numbers, you just simplifying that process for them and that's money they don't need to be spending your groceries. So it deals with the you know, financial issue. Pregnancy resource centers, we just we've spent other podcast talking a lot about them really important. One of them that we have is option, adoption, but if that is I believe they are national, but they began in this area. But any kind of adoption resources that you might have in your area. So you never know, if you've got the number right there, maybe they will call and make that an option other than just abortion. One that I didn't think of until I'd been out there a while jobs for felons. Many of the abortion workers are felons and they can't find work, but abortion centers will hire them. Yeah, so if you can have a list of companies and industries, again it's a nationalist the one that we have of industries that will hire felons, then that's a way to and enties abortion workers to leave. Yeah, emergency help with utilities and rent. Most communities have that. And having that number their clothing ministries. A lot of churches and PRC, pregnancy resource centers, will provide clothing. Yeah, for not only the pregnant the baby in the womb when once that baby's born, but for other siblings. Addiction ministries and Rehab Programs.

18:00 That's really come in handy. Yeah, for us, I know we shared some months ago a testimony of a young lady who came who was drug addicted, as we were going through and sharing some of these testimonies and doing these case studies. Yeah, and that was an important resource to be able to connect her with a drug rehab place that actually would would take in a mom who was pregnant, right, and we doug for that. Found that resource, yeah, from Google, I believe it was. Yeah, and I think it's important to know that most of these addiction and Rehab centers and maternity centers, especially if it's for long term, will take out a state people and they will switch over the Medicaid, pregnancy Medicaid, to the new state. They will do all of that. So you just because you're in one state and maybe your community doesn't have one of these resource centers. Keep googling because they that's how we found it. This one was in Kentucky and we're here in North Carolina and I didn't realize that at the time that you can. You don't have to live in the state to be able to use the facilities in another state necessarily. So that's important to know. Embrace grace is an organization I didn't know about. Again, their national with local chapters all over the nation and they provide nationwide mentorship from plan pregnancies. What we do here through Love Life America. There embrace grace does. It's already in place in many communities. Yeah, now I would say it is not connected

19:34 to the church the way I think love life is, but they're Christians. Yeah, and for those of you who maybe you have not yet been able to get a love life chapter in your area or House of a church, what do they call them? Church of refuge? Hows Rift House of Refuge Church that's going to back up the mentors, which is what we have with Love Life America. Well, you can maybe contact embrace grace. They're wonderful. They do baby showers. They do discipleship. So they are a really important resource that I didn't know about until I had been out here for a while. Job Assistants. That's one of our resources and we found that by just finding volunteers willing to help moms find jobs. They don't even have any special training. These foundeers that we found, but they become very good at helping the MOMS to look for work. Just knowing there's someone that's willing to help them look for work if they're out of work can often calm their frantic fears. Financial Counseling. It's another one. Budgeting and financial counseling has been a really and we have financial counselors from from financial counseling industries that are willing to do that for free for MOMS who choose life. Grants and scholarships for single MOMS. I found that through just googling and there's lots of them.

20:59 Grants and scholarships back to college, they pay tuition whatever. There are even colleges that have special programs for single MOMS, and knowing that and putting that on a list is really valuable. Pro Life Doctors. That's really it's important resource there and it's really hard to find, it is. Yeah, surprisingly. So that's a challenge for you in your area. Then definitely put it to prayer, because there are their doctors in your area, I can guarantee you, that are believers in Jesus and that would be willing to use their skills to minister to a mom and they may not even know about, for whatever reason, the ministry at the abortion centers or the fact that there's their skills could be used in this way. Yeah, so be praying for that.

21:44 Be You know, be digging for that information if you can. I believe there's a Oh gosh, it's a website and you maybe can just google search. It's been a while since I looked on it. But prolife doctors, I think there's actually a whole network of pro life doctors. Yeah, or pro life maybe specifically her life would be Gui in maybe it'd be good to look on that, yeah, and and try to find out if there's one in your area. And the wonderful thing that happens when you find one and then you tell them the need and they get hooked, because they do get hooked. They find out. Wow, I mean I'm already a doctor, already committed to life. I'm already saving lives in my practice. But look at this whole group of people that are choosing death and my influence in input and help can actually save a baby's life when they they really become invested and they have friends and they start to talk to your friends. And we have seen that here in Charlotte. There's been, there's a couple of just really on fire pro life doctors here in Charlotte. One of them who pioneered the abortion pill, Dr Matt Harrison's Bill Reverse. No, I'm sorry, the abortion. I'm very sorry, the abortion for reversal. Right, and he has pro life friends that that then he contacts on our behalf. And then someone who came to council with us on the sidewalk, edith, who

23:15 we did a podcast with, and she has just been a wealth of information about connecting us with other doctors. So once you find one, you tend to be able to find others. Yeah, absolutely. I just did a quick little google search myself. Okay, again, we've got a good network of pro life doctors here in Charlotte's we haven't needed this resource really for quite some time, but it's aaplog Dot Org. Yeah, yeah, so that's the American Association of Pro Life Obstetricians and gynecologists. Again, it's www dot aapl og dot org and you can search on there and find local pro life doctors. So that's a good resource. That's an awesome resource. Something I didn't think about until, honestly, till I was counseling a terrified eighteen year old and her terror is childbirth. It's leading her to keep waffling back and forth between life and abortion. She is so afraid of having a baby.

24:18 Doulas. There are Dulas that now, sadly, there is this new upsurge of Du Lah's that will be with moms while they're aboarding. Yeah, this to me just breaks my heart. So you need to be sure what kind of Duela you're talking to, but Doula's are the women that will walk alongside a woman through childbirth, actually through the pregnancy and and childbirth, and help them through that experience. So a pro life Dula's. We have found a couple that are willing to do it for free. They're on our resource list and that's been a huge, huge help, legal help a lot of these MOMS. I have heard this countless times they want to abort because they don't want to be tied down for eighteen years to either an abusive man or the man who told them to abort their child or whatever. Yeah, and child custody becomes an issue. Yeah, it's so sad. Very few these MOMS can afford legal help. So if you've got someone willing to help them for free, there's a couple of organizations we've worked with right yet it that have provided free legal help. Yeah, absolutely, and it's not like that's available in every area that lawyers can just jump on that. You may have some lawyers. I mean I think the first place to be looking for things like this, for doctors and lawyers that can help in this area, would be in your own congregations. Yes, ask us around if they are doctors that

25:49 that are part of the the church that you fellowship in, or their lawyers that are there other people that can help out with these different things? Be asking. Yeah, you have not, because you ask not. Yeah, there's a lawyer in your congregation where you were, you worship and you fellowship instead of a meeting with him. Yeah, and I ask, Hey, would you be willing to offer your legal services to a mom that we get in some pretty hairy situations from time to time where we have a guy who wants to maybe once or two, abort but when she has the baby, wants to kind of try to sue for custody or for visitation rights with the baby. And maybe he's none of these. Many of these men, these young men, are not very good good if they're not taking responsibility for their children. So there needs to be some pushback legally and if we have a lawyer they can do that. It can help us share that mom that Yep, you know that she's she's safe and all. Yeah, yeah, and we've found our financial if we did find a lawyer who would see someone for free, just by asking our network of churches and and followers, and same with our financial counselor they were both there. Are Their trained professional. Same with counseling. Yeah, that's another thing. Go to go to Christian counselors in the area of which most communities have them. If you can't find them, I know focus on the family will help you find Christian counselors in your area and go talk to them see if one would be willing to take on for free, even by phone. Some of the MOM's that you work with.

27:18 Yeah, so I'm going to jump in because, like Vicki mentioned, and like we always talk about, we have this article on our sidewalks for life website. You can go to sidewalks for lifecom just click equipping articles. A lot of times I like to link it in the description of the podcast, but sometimes the article doesn't come out the same time the podcast does. So if you don't see it, then look for in a couple of days if you listen to this podcast and looking for this article, because we have this kind of listed out for you guys to dig into. But let's talk real quick, because this is this is really important. Yes, we talk about brochures and tracks that we give out at the abortion centers. Yeah, now, I don't want to say this, I've been to places. I've been to a lot of abortion centers, especially over the past six months or so, just helping encourage folks all across a nation. I see different people in from different ministries and things like that. I'm not knocking anybody, I'm not judging anybody or anything like that, so to speak, but I do have a little bit of experience in this in this realm and sometimes. What I see when I go to observe people at the abortion center reaching ails, I'll see them trying to give a mom stopping it in, coming into the abortion clinner clinic, stopping into the driveway a whole packet of stuff. I'm talking like some places. I've seen them give like a bag with all kinds of stuff. It'll have a Bible in there, it'll have a brochure about everything you can think of in there, it'll have directions to their church and man has all this stuff and obviously that's all well intended, right, but

28:51 we have to remember that we live in a bullet point society. We live in a billboard society, YEA, and what I'm discovered is in this scenario, less is more. Right. If you give someone a whole handful of literature, they are going to read none of it. Yep, and your intention is, of course you want to cover every subject you possibly can, and I get that, but just think about in our modern age the attention span of people. Right a post on facebook, if it's more than a couple of sentences, people keep scrolling. I do it. I don't know if you do that, but if I, if I'm scrolling O death. I'm a writer. I'd like to read. I mean your less shallow than I am, I'm sure, probably, but if you guys are honest, I would I would bet about half of you at least. As you're scrolling through facebook or whatever and you see a post and someone says long post warning, can you go and right say thanks for the warning and you keep going right, because we have a limited amount of time we have. Personally, I have a limited attention span. So if you were to give me a brochure and then give me another brochure and then give me another brochure and then give me another one on every subject under the Sun, I'm probably not going to read any of I'm just going to be overwhelmed. Right, right, yeah, that's what happens as you're driving down the road and there's a billboard with a bunch of information on you ever seen a billboard with like that's really wordy. Yeah, you just ignore it because you don't have the time to take it in. And you got to think in the mindset of a young

30:22 mother coming into an abortion center, not not just the attention span thing, but there's the factor of fear that she's dealing with. There's anxiety that she's dealing with. There's a lot of stuff that's going through her mind. So, yeah, I really think we have to be careful and not overloading them with the bunch of information and in the information that we do give them, that it gets right to the point, and I think it brochure, the brochure that we give out does that. Yeah, I think it touches on the different aspects that I think to be touched on without going too far in depth. And obviously the Gospel is shared their their scripture that shared. Yep. So that's what I'll say just a preface. Yeah, we're talking about brochures and tracks that cover various subjects. I think we should have at our fingertips brochures that do cover these different subjects, but I don't think we should give it all to them at one time. Exactly good point, and in fact they can find these pressures right the ones that we have on sidebox life.

31:19 Yeah, sidewalks for livecom. There's a section there in the drop down menu. I think it's digital resources, and they are are they're all free. But to Daniels Point, we have two main pamphlets that we hand out to the women brochures. There are a trifold and they've got so they've got six panels and we've spent a lot of time honing those panels to have bullet points that we think are the absolute most critical things and they've saved lives. We know that. We know people have looked at these and chosen life just based on what they've read in those pressures. But the first one that we hand out is to women coming in, so women who are clearly there for an abortion, and it's really targeted to preventing that abortion the information that we think will be most effective in helping them to choose life. Yeah, not, not abortion. So that's our first pamphlet. We're very careful, by the way, on every pamphlet to give them our low coill contact, your name and number. Always make sure it's on there. Yeah, there's there's a box, even on the ones that we have for you guys to print out. It says call or text me anytime, where you can put your private cell phone number in there. And then that sounds uncomfortable. You don't necessarily have to put your private cell phone number in there. You can get a google voice number. That's what we encourage people to do. If you don't want to give your cell phone now, Vicky does and I do.

32:42 I'll put my cell phone on the back of those. Thankfully we've haven't had a whole lot of fallout from that from the pro abortion people. But you can set up a google voice number if you just want to have not have your cell phone number connected to these brochures. But we do feel like it's really important that you have a personal contact number. Yeah, you've got a lift of resources on the back and pregnancy centers and things that they can call, but it's important to make that personal connection, that personal touch, especially if you have an indepth conversation with a mom, so that you can just point to the backup say here's my phone number right here, so they know how to get in touch with you. That's like I think we mentioned maybe even the last podcast. It's almost like blasphemy if you hand out a piece of literature and there's not a personal number on it, there's not a handwritten personal number. We might whip you, yeah, we might. We make fire you. Yeah, might fire Dr Pay, doctor pays a volunteer.

33:35 It is really it is really important to us because we had so many moms that have chosen life over the years that didn't let us know about that until they went home. And you like Isy and her testimony that we here on this podcast. She share on this podcast some months ago. She got a brochure. She didn't tell us that she chose life until months later. She still had it. She still had the brochure with your number on it. Yep, got in touch with us. We were able to get her plugged in the discipleship and we've had a great relationship with her ever since. We wouldn't have that's a good friend. If the number hadn't been on if your number hadn't been on there, we would not have had that contact. That contact might not even known about her baby. That was sentence right. And and last just last week someone called me, and I can tell right away by their voice as this Vicky and it's someone I don't know and and she said I have I have a brochure with your name on it and I said, well, tell me your situation. That's where I usually start. She was she had had the abortion. It was actually her second abortion to within four months. And and she said, I don't know why, but I'm just I'm devastated. I don't know what to do. I'm just really grieving.

34:45 Yeah, and and I talked with her for a long time and she she knew she was not right with God, she'd never been right with God, and she came to the Lord in the that just that discussion, that what you have in your personal contact number on there, ultimately led to somebody given their life to Jeesus, right, and there is nothing better there. I mean that's why we're there, because the way that you prevent future abortions is through lives that have committed and been convicted by the truth of who Jesus is and they know they can't kill their baby after that. Yeah, so kind of two categories, as you mentioned in this article, of really necessary information. Yeah, is information to give them before the abortion to try to convince them not to have the abortion, yes, and then information, if they've had the abortion, to get to them. Those are two crucial pieces of information. That's right. But also we encourage folks, especially if your own you know, a public sidewalk, which you always are, but a public sidewalk this well traveled by other people other than people come to the abortion clinic like where we're at on the trope drive. Most people that make it down to we where we are, and it's vehicle traffic, not really foot traffic. Right. Most people that make it down there they're coming for abortion.

35:59 But there's other places, like in Manhattan, our teams that are there, and some of the other cities where our teams are that there's all kinds of flip traffic, there's all kinds of people walking by and you want to hand out all your your literature to reach abortion mind of MOMS to people passing by. So have some Gospel tracks, Yep, and we love Ray coomforts Gospel tracks. Living Waterscom. You can order whatever track you want to on their great tracks and it just gives you the ability to hand somebody Gospel track. One of the things that can happen, and just to mention this by the way of warning, is people will come along and I'm not saying you shouldn't get into an in depth gospel discussion with them. If somebody comes and they're interested in the Gospel, obviously we're out there to bring the Gospel, yeah, but if we can put a track in their hand that shares the Gospel, it keeps US focused on while we're there. You think about it, because there's a baby about to die. If you're sitting there sharing the gospel with somebody, and of course we understand that a person's eternal soul is the most important thing right, but it's literally life and death right there at the abortion Saye. And if you're, you know, in in depth to our conversation with somebody about the Gospel and there's women walking into the abortion center that not are not being addressed, I think you failed in what God has called you to out there. Yeah, so I say hand them a Gospel track, have your number on the back of it. Hey will have a discussion about the Gospel. Let's have lunch or something like that someday. Reach out to me, you know whatever, but at least you're not failing in your mission to bring the Gospel. You're handing them a gospel track and and

37:30 sending them on their way so you can focus on why you're there. Yeah, and that's that's kind of the key point, is that all of our brochures, what they do is they do the talking for us, because you've got limited time about, so you got to brochure attract something that's going to be able to tell them all those things that you've been unable to say in the limited time. Yeah, yeah, another thing that we feel like it's important. They're not our primary ministry. The abortion workers aren't, right, but if there's no abortion workers, there's no abortions, and so I do think that we need to spend some time ministering to them, and we may end up doing maybe we should do a whole podcast about ministering to abortion workers and right how to effectively do that. I think. Not Bragging. It's by the grace of God, and I could be wrong about this, but I think I'm correct. I think we've seen more abortion workers quit here in Charlotte than any other abortion center in the United I think think that might be true, because happy Johnson called us and said what is happening in Charlotte, because there are so many abortion workers sleeping and I think part of it is we are very targeted and and when we can, we call out to every single abortion worker that goes in and out of that place. Yeah, and we offered them abortion workercom yeah, and we actually do have a little card that we can give them as well. Yeah, that's a that's a piece of literature that we have available, and obviously we're not handing this to the mom's going into the abortion and we have this available. Some of our folks.

38:54 You do it, others do it. Have like a belly pack, Yep, or think some of the folks have like a tool belt or they had the literature in there. Yeah, and so you know where it's at. You know what you need to grab when you're talking to a person. You know, I think there's there's literature out there that talks about down syndrome and talks about what it is to have a child that has down syndrome and you know what some of the the things to be concerned about. Obviously you don't hand that to everybody, but be good to have that at your fingertips and hand it out. Yeah, there's the tracks out there about domestic abuse and things like that. Be Good to have that if you encounter that situation. But again, you're not going to hand that to everybody. I do think it's important that you have some bibles. Have you have a Bible Ready?

39:36 If you get in an indepth conversation with a mom, mom, maybe she surrenders her life to Jesus on the sidewalk. Have a Bible, but I wouldn't hand a Bible to every mom going in. Right, you'll go broke. Yeah, you'll go broken. Then a lot of it will be wasted. So I think it's good to be yeah, be well prepared, but be strategic about the way that you hand out literature. I have these booklets there from Red Comfort called save yourself some pain. That's a good one. Yeah, it's a great little booklet for new believers, people that just gave their life to Jesus. And I'm not going to give that to everybody, but I will give it to people that I feel like either maybe just gave their life Jesus right on the sidewalk or, you know, on the mobile unit. And there's different things that we can get into people's hands. I have another book that's from recomfort. It's more and death, not just a Gospel track. It's called why Christianity? Because we encounter on a regular basis. I told I've told people who like apologetics and, you know, debating with people. If you want to encounter people from every persuasion under the sun, Yep, go to an abortion clinic. I mean, I've encountered Buddhist Rostafarians, Islamist, Jovahs, witnesses, any is atheist, of course, every persuasion under the sun. I got that little booklet why Christianity?

40:46 So when they're trying to argue with me about, you know, Islam or whatever, this is a booklet that really kind of gets to that stuff. So again, I'm not giving that that that out to everybody, but I am having an available to give right so folks where I think that's appropriate. Yeah. Yeah, one other piece of literature that has been useful if you're at a facility that does things other than abortions, like Plant parenthood, is low cost community resources that can do everything plan parenthood does without killing the baby. Yeah, those are all good, good things to have. Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, and you mentioned the belly pack. That's part of our last segment. Yeah, of this. Yeah, let's wrap this up with this kind of practical thing. We mentioned it when we first started, that there's some really practical stuff that we need to consider. Having good shoes on as one of those things. You're on a concrete sidewalk for three four hours, it's good to have a good pair of shoes. Listen, God is not angry if you span a good hundred hundred fifty on a pair of shoes. Yeah, because you're going to be on the sidewalk serving the Lore.

41:53 We might, some folks might feel a little guilty, you know, by thirty dollar payer of shoes at Walmart. Wasn't you get what you pay for and shoes. It's spend some money on some good shoes. I do that. Yeah, making sure that you know I can stay out there for a lengthy amount of time. Yeah, and in the wintertime, warm boots, warm and selected good, sturdy boots, because you're standing at least well, usually around three hours, and in the cold it's really critical. So in the winter that's not just your feet that need to stay warm, but your fingers. Yeah, we have a lot of people don't know this, that there are heated gloves and heated coats and he did vest and you even have heated socks. Does so all those things actually can truly make the difference for whether you will be on the sidewalk or not. Yeah, and whether or not you stay on the sidewall, whether you stay well, when you're on the sidewalk, you can actually pay attention to why you're there. That's right, you're thinking the whole time about how how frozen your toes are.

42:58 Yep, and MOMS are walking into the abortion center and you're just in misery and you want to try to have a smile in your face and make yourself approachable, but you're in misery and it's conveyed on your face. Yeah, that's not good. Right. So, if there's things that you can do practically to keep you from being miserable, yeah, whether it be in the cold or in the hot. Yeah, do those things. Yeah. So I've got it down to a science. I want you to know. I know I have an insulated waterproof skirt that just I can snap on over my clothes and it goes down to my ankles and it protects everything below my waist from the water. If you have down, which a lot of people are smart, down is warm and in the winter you need down, but down, if it gets wet, no longer insulates. You got to have a waterproof covering for a Poncho or something that's going to cover your down. So warm, warm stuff in the winter, in the summer, because that's another challenge, especially here. This is hot summers. Yeah, here in the south. So I had or a visor keep the sun off of your face.

43:55 Yeah, sunglasses. We wanted to talk about sunglasses. Yes, sunglasses. To me, I don't really wear sunglasses like ever. Even want to get to the beach. I don't wear just not something I do. But there's a problem with sunglasses right. Yeah, there is. Now some folks they always get to have their sunglasses on whatever reason. If there's a medical reason, we're not telling you don't sunglasses, but there are reasons why not to wear sources. And you think about it and think Ray Comfort really touches on this when he's talking about street witnessing. I remember years ago I watch some videos from him. He talks about sharing the Gospel, street preaching. One of the things he said just practical thing, and I think it obviously it translates into this as well, is don't wear sunglasses because your eyes are the windows to your soul. Yep, if you're engaging with people and you want to them to see that you love them, you care about them and you're trying to speak truth to them, they need to be able to see your eyes. That's right. And if they don't see your eyes, because you know you're looking when you're specially when you're doing a one on one conversation with them. Yeah, when you're looking into their eyes, they can they can tell, they can tell whether or not you're being genuine and you can look into their eyes and you can tell whether they're not they're telling you the truth. You think about secret service people. Why do they wear sunglasses?

45:07 Besides keeping the sun out of their eyes, but there's another reason. I think their eyes are darting all over the place. They're suspicious. That's their job is to be suspicious. So their eyes are covered so that people don't identify them and know that they're supposed to be secret. Yeah, so they've covered the eyes on. I think that that's purposeful. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so, if you wear sunglasses when you're going to engage with people, take them off, to them off, pop them up on your head, or whatever you do, because it this is important. This is important that you're a human being that was to relate to another human being, to share truths with them. Yeah, you want to be as open and as transparent as possible in sunglasses. Bother, very nature are not transparent. Right, that's right. In the summer water we you may forget about that, but yeah, and water is important, especially when you're sweating a lot.

45:59 I found small personal fans that are checking and those can be really helped. Yeah, we've had those that missed and they brass, yeah fan, at the same time they're actually they work pretty good. So remember we are out there in all weather, which kind of surprises some of our new volunteers. One asked me today. Are you out there in a rain? Yes, we were in it. Out there in a Tornado watch last week. We killing babies. If it were the exactly. If it's open, we are there. But rain presents a all kinds of issues. One of them is when you're handing out literature, if it's wet, saggy, gross, no one's going to take it. Yeah, that just is the truth. So you need, when you're thinking about the rain, obviously an umbrella. But what I have found is an umbrella does not usually keep the literature dry because you got to hold it way up, like under the umbrella, on top of your head, basically, or it gets wet. So I have a waterproof belly pack and that's purposeful. I need our literature to stay dry and presentable. Something water proof that you can put the things you carry and that's not just for the rain, although waterproof. I mine is waterproof for that purpose, but some sort of something. I think it's harder for men.

47:09 You're probably not going to carry a purse, but something that that you can keep your information. I have lost women and potentially lost the life of babies because I've been digging around looking for information I couldn't find. Let me share something that may people might think I'm weird about, but this is absolutely true. Yeah, when I go into a store, now I've actually found the brand and everything that is perfect. When I go into a store, for to get a new pair of jeans, I bring a piece of literature with me. Know why? So it goods. I want to make sure it fits in the back pocket. Now I found pants. I'm not advertising for this company, but Coles and their urban pipeline, I think, is the name of the brand. Okay, their jeans. Yeah, the perfect the back pocket is perfect for a piece of our literature to slip this. Are Some big pockets, their big pockets and they're perfect. But I've brought a piece of literature into the store and slip in the pocket and found out this is perfect. This. So this is a man who is prepared. I love to hear this, because who would even think on those terms? But we've been out there so long. You've been out there longer than me.

48:19 What, fifteen years, eighteen years or something now, and and to think in terms of and and I do I buy clothes now based upon will this work on the sidewalk? Yeah, modesty is one of the things I'm thinking. Sure, and and then the second thing is I just bought a winter coat who, just like you, the pockets fit the F litery. Sure, I'm serious about that. And because I ain't wearing no no Dang Bailey pack. Okay, well, I am an huge N we're carrying no, no Dang man purse either. So I got jeans where I can put the literature there. Yeah, and when I've got my rain Jack at on, it covers, yeah, covers that that area of my jeans. I can just kind of slip back there. Now I want to make sure that I'm pulling that literature out way before the car gets to me, so I don't look like I'm whipping out a gun, or gun exactly. But yeah, you know, I've got it. They're pretty well protected and pretty well managed, so I'm not dropping literature everywhere. Yeah, and I can kind of whip out a piece of literature. Yeah, and and offer it. Yeah, that's that's good. That's good. I would recommend you don't stick it down in your pants. I've seen people do that that. I don't think it's wouldn't be not a good lay sanitary right now. But so rain, you're going to kind of rain, you're going to kind of snow. Think ahead. But for all situations I think it is really important to have extra closed in your car, and I do. I have extra everything in my car. Actually, my car is a mess, but I am outfitting not only myself but off in the other sidewalk cops have not been prepared. Be prepared for anything, because if you get wet and cold, you need extras.

49:49 Yeah, well, this been times out there. I think you shared when we talked about ministering to people who are not necessarily abortion minded, you about a young lady that you were ministering to at the plant parenthood. Yeah, who was there, got dropped off, didn't have a Jack at all. It was sub it was very close to it was under freezing and she had an extra. Yeah, you had an extra sweatshirt and you gave it to it. Yeah, that's a way to minister, to be either practical needs. Yeah, because I'm leaving them in the car. So they're not my favorites, they're just things that in an emergency. So you know, it was nothing for me to give it to her and it meant everything to her. She was freezing. Yeah. So, yeah, so tail and all first age supplies good idead. Always through have in there just folding chair.

50:31 If you struggle to stand for three hours the way, that ideal with that as I pace. Yeah, because I can't stand for three hours, but I can walk for three hours back and forth. But if not, have a folding chair. Yeah, in your cars you've got you can sit down and then, of course, any signs they might want to hold or so that you can again have something else speaking other than your words, especially if you if you can't call out to the women. Those are just some really practical things that we have found that are very effective. Yeah, hopefully that was a blessing to you guys, and it wouldn't just a bunch of words, right. This is speaking from experience. Yeah, and hopefully it spurred you guys all just to gather some of these practical necessities, be thinking through some of just the practical stuff that you need have to be effective out there on the sidewalk. And as we start it out, we want to encourage you guys to share this podcast. Would encourage you guys to reach out to us with questions that you might have. You can reach me Daniel at Love Life Dot Org. You reach her Vicky at Love Life Dot Org, and visit our sidewalks for life website. We've talked about that through this.

51:39 We've talked about the printable resources section where you can print out the brochures that we use, or at least one of the brochures that we use. There's also signs there that you can take the files and you can print those locally. Also equipping articles on the sidewalks for life website. That website was designed to encourage, equip train people who want to do sidewalk out reach, and so we hope that's an encouragement to you guys and we hope you're blessed. And until next time, God bless our love for love. Give me our love for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious in some you