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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.439 But what happens with a big, steamy parliamoneure? Well, it attracts, 2 00:00:03.879 --> 00:00:08.990 sadly, flies and other tracks flies of all kinds. Yeah, I am 3 00:00:09.310 --> 00:00:14.869 yours, I am yours, I am yours, and welcome to the Gospel 4 00:00:14.910 --> 00:00:18.989 Center Pro Life Podcast, and this episode we're going to talk about three parables, 5 00:00:19.190 --> 00:00:22.739 some biblical and some maybe extra biblical, that will help you as a 6 00:00:22.780 --> 00:00:27.179 sidewall counselor or any other pro life ministry you're involved in. So stay tuned. 7 00:00:27.699 --> 00:00:37.009 Send Me, Lord, I felt show Passish, touch your heart. 8 00:00:39.409 --> 00:00:48.729 Use Me. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. We appreciate you 9 00:00:48.890 --> 00:00:54.359 guys listening and we'd appreciate if you guys would share these podcasts. We hope 10 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:59.479 they're blessing to you. And we're going to cover a subject today that I 11 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:04.909 think will be particularly applicable to sidewall counseling, but could be applicable to a 12 00:01:06.030 --> 00:01:10.310 lot of other prolife ministries. However, think one of the things we've discovered 13 00:01:10.510 --> 00:01:14.590 is that, since our wheelhouse is sidewall counseling, it's why i's to focus 14 00:01:14.670 --> 00:01:19.579 there. It's just what we know and we try to broaden and generalize as 15 00:01:19.620 --> 00:01:23.260 much as possible to help. Bless anybody who may be listening who works with 16 00:01:23.299 --> 00:01:26.859 a pregnancy center or in any other kind of pro life ministry or just in 17 00:01:26.900 --> 00:01:34.049 general's and it's interested in pro life talk topics. But in our vein sidewalk 18 00:01:34.129 --> 00:01:38.489 counseling, I think we think we probably are better to stay in that vein. 19 00:01:38.530 --> 00:01:46.290 But this topic, as it applies her life ministry, is kind of 20 00:01:46.329 --> 00:01:53.200 a biblical train of thought in that we're talking about parables that really help us 21 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:56.959 in Ministry, parables that give us good pictures. In this what parables do, 22 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.359 right, they give us a picture, yeah, kind of an everyday 23 00:02:00.510 --> 00:02:07.069 picture of whatever we're involved in to help us, I guess, bring it 24 00:02:07.150 --> 00:02:09.189 down to Earth. Sure, because Jesus did that all the time. Eight 25 00:02:09.310 --> 00:02:14.750 he taught lessons through stories. Yeah, he did, and so that's what 26 00:02:14.830 --> 00:02:16.219 we're going to do. We're actually going to try to just talk through a 27 00:02:16.259 --> 00:02:20.460 couple of stories, a couple of biblical scenarios, maybe some scenarios that are 28 00:02:21.180 --> 00:02:23.900 maybe extra biblical, not in a bad way they use, but very us 29 00:02:24.020 --> 00:02:28.300 paint to picture right. Yeah, the Lord actually helps me a lot of 30 00:02:28.379 --> 00:02:32.610 times with giving me pictures and analogies and things like that. That helped me 31 00:02:34.090 --> 00:02:36.569 to say, Oh, yeah, that's how this works. And you know, 32 00:02:36.610 --> 00:02:39.569 analogies of course break down at some point. Parables breakdown at some point, 33 00:02:40.009 --> 00:02:44.090 but again, they are helpful in Jesus, like you said, use 34 00:02:44.169 --> 00:02:51.919 parables all throughout and and they can't help us to just come to terms with 35 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:57.879 certain realities and connect certain dots to better understand. Yeah, that's actually yeah. 36 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:00.750 So we're going to be just mentioned in three parables, and each of 37 00:03:00.789 --> 00:03:07.110 these parables fits into a certain aspect of prolife ministry. Again, in particular 38 00:03:07.150 --> 00:03:09.710 sidewalk counseling and what I was going to deal with, the philosophy of sidewall 39 00:03:09.789 --> 00:03:15.099 counseling, the practice of sidewalk counseling. And the third one deals with the 40 00:03:15.780 --> 00:03:22.020 purpose and the primary goal. Yeah, of PSIDE. So three peas and 41 00:03:22.139 --> 00:03:24.939 that great for you guys, or piece, if you count primary for piece. 42 00:03:25.139 --> 00:03:28.090 Right. Yeah, so like how we like to stay with that. 43 00:03:28.210 --> 00:03:31.250 We do like that. Literation is philosophy practice, right, probably here you 44 00:03:31.289 --> 00:03:37.169 go. Yeah, because what's interesting is how you came up with this idea, 45 00:03:37.330 --> 00:03:40.840 Daniel. Was She said these three parables were kind of running through your 46 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:46.280 head and you hadn't really quite tied together, like why? But as we 47 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:51.680 were working through this, it became very apparent. One was talking about the 48 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:55.870 philosophy, the underpinning of why we do what we do. Another was how 49 00:03:55.949 --> 00:04:00.310 we do what we do or the practice of of what we do, and 50 00:04:00.469 --> 00:04:05.270 then the third one why we do what we do it. It was kind 51 00:04:05.270 --> 00:04:11.379 of interesting. How how that that really gives you a whole picture of a 52 00:04:11.460 --> 00:04:15.180 pro life ministry. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and of course I believe 53 00:04:15.819 --> 00:04:19.060 throughout our podcasts we've probably touched on every one of these stories, maybe not 54 00:04:19.139 --> 00:04:23.540 the last story that we're going to talk about right, and the that analogy. 55 00:04:23.819 --> 00:04:26.209 What's I want you guys to be ready for, because it's going to 56 00:04:26.250 --> 00:04:29.529 be really fun. Analogy. It's not necessarily a BIBLICO analogy, but we 57 00:04:29.569 --> 00:04:32.250 do have a biblical analogy. We do for our third third point here. 58 00:04:32.250 --> 00:04:39.800 Yeah, but let's hop into philosophy of sidewalk counseling and the parable that, 59 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.920 I think really in the beginning of cities for life and the model of our 60 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:49.959 ministry is kind of fueled what we do and shaped what we do and kind 61 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:55.149 of given us the framework for not just that well counseling but just this ministry 62 00:04:55.189 --> 00:04:59.790 in general. Yeah, and and before you get into that, I why 63 00:04:59.790 --> 00:05:02.990 is philosophy so important? And I remember when I started home schooling I was 64 00:05:03.189 --> 00:05:08.819 completely at a loss. I didn't want to. It was really I was 65 00:05:08.899 --> 00:05:14.139 almost forced to, but a very wise mentor told me the first thing that 66 00:05:14.300 --> 00:05:16.860 you need to do. I'm overwhelmed with all the things to get set to 67 00:05:17.180 --> 00:05:20.930 start homeschooling, something I had never even heard of before I started it. 68 00:05:21.410 --> 00:05:29.290 She said the first thing you need to do is develop your philosophy of homeschooling. 69 00:05:29.490 --> 00:05:33.329 Yeah, so philosophy kind of guides everything else, everything that you do. 70 00:05:33.490 --> 00:05:36.000 So it's a great place, I think, for us to start. 71 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:41.160 Yeah, you know, I think one of the things also is not only 72 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:46.160 that philosophy guides, but it also sustains, and one of the reasons why 73 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.870 I think a good philosophy of ministry, especially when you're involved in sidewalk counseling, 74 00:05:49.910 --> 00:05:54.870 sidewalk out reach ministry, because it can be such a and intense ministry. 75 00:05:54.910 --> 00:05:58.670 Yeah, spiritual warfare. Interactions with people are not always pause of it 76 00:05:58.949 --> 00:06:02.870 right, and so it's hard to listen. We have people that come out 77 00:06:03.899 --> 00:06:09.019 that you know, their whole whole philosophy of ministry people that come out to 78 00:06:09.019 --> 00:06:12.620 volunteer is they want to. They want to save these poornessent women that save 79 00:06:12.660 --> 00:06:14.819 the world. I'm going to save the world. I found my purpose in 80 00:06:14.899 --> 00:06:16.779 life. Right. I want to save these poor women from this terrible mistake 81 00:06:17.019 --> 00:06:20.329 all abortion. Right. I want to save these babies, which you know. 82 00:06:20.410 --> 00:06:23.649 Both of those, you know, often what I say the enemy of 83 00:06:23.730 --> 00:06:28.250 the best. It's always the good. Right. So it's good to save 84 00:06:28.370 --> 00:06:31.529 women from the destructive nature of abortion, to save babies, of course, 85 00:06:31.569 --> 00:06:36.240 right. We believe that that's good. But is that the best? Now? 86 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:41.639 Really the best is to bring Lord to God. Right, our focus 87 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:45.759 has to be on the Lord, and in this parable I think Jesus sets 88 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:50.829 things in their proper perspective, because I won't say a bad philosophy of ministry, 89 00:06:51.389 --> 00:06:55.389 for Sidewalk Counseling is to love your neighbor. It's not a bad that's 90 00:06:55.430 --> 00:06:59.470 not a bad philosophy. That's actually a good philosophy of ministry to love our 91 00:06:59.509 --> 00:07:03.740 neighbor. But the best philosophy of ministry is to love God, and then 92 00:07:03.819 --> 00:07:06.699 out of that flows a love for your neighbor. You know, Jesus talks 93 00:07:06.740 --> 00:07:12.420 about the two great commands and what are they? What's Love The Lord, 94 00:07:12.500 --> 00:07:15.850 your God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength. Right? 95 00:07:15.129 --> 00:07:18.649 And then he says the second command is like unto the first. That means 96 00:07:18.649 --> 00:07:23.490 they're tied together, right, and which is love your neighbor as yourself. 97 00:07:24.170 --> 00:07:28.730 And I'll say you can't actually properly love your neighbor until you first love God. 98 00:07:29.449 --> 00:07:33.000 If you love your neighbor first, your motivation is flipped on its head, 99 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.879 it's upside down. The Cart is before the horse. Our love for 100 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.399 our neighbor has to flow out of, first and foremost, our love for 101 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.879 God, because if you love your neighbor and that's the primary focus, you'll 102 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:47.670 end up either compromising the truth, compromising the Gospel, or you end up 103 00:07:47.709 --> 00:07:51.550 going to some other radical extreme. You know. So you want to make 104 00:07:51.629 --> 00:07:56.310 sure our love for God is first, and that's where our philosophy of ministry 105 00:07:56.750 --> 00:08:00.259 really is important, again, not just to get us out there and to 106 00:08:00.300 --> 00:08:03.420 keep us, but to sustain us, because you can get burned out and 107 00:08:03.420 --> 00:08:05.339 you know, if you have a mentality, and you know it well, 108 00:08:07.139 --> 00:08:07.939 when you you know you can come out here, you're going to save these 109 00:08:07.939 --> 00:08:13.170 poor innocent women from the terrible, the destructive nature of abortion and you find 110 00:08:13.170 --> 00:08:16.529 out, well, not all these women are poor innocent victims. They're actually 111 00:08:16.009 --> 00:08:20.089 fairly vile and say say them things to you there show that they're not just 112 00:08:20.209 --> 00:08:24.930 poor innocence to them don't want to be saved, so that you get burned 113 00:08:24.970 --> 00:08:28.360 really quick if that's your philosophy of ministry. So it's a love for God 114 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:33.399 first. So let's jump into the parable that we have first, as it 115 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.200 pertains to a philosophy of ministry, and that is Luke chapter ten. We've 116 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.720 shared this with you guys before, which is the heart of our ministry. 117 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:43.269 And Verse Twenty Five, and this is Jesus sharing with a man's who said, 118 00:08:45.070 --> 00:08:48.230 teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? And that's when 119 00:08:48.230 --> 00:08:50.190 he talks about the two great commands. Love the Lord, your God, 120 00:08:50.309 --> 00:08:54.629 with all your heart, with all your mind, and love your neighbor as 121 00:08:54.710 --> 00:08:58.940 yourself. And then the man asked, who is my neighbor? And then 122 00:08:58.940 --> 00:09:03.700 Jesus share this parable. And this is in Luke Chapter Ten, starting in 123 00:09:03.740 --> 00:09:07.820 Verse Twenty Five, he begins to share the parable in verse thirty and says 124 00:09:07.860 --> 00:09:11.409 a certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho and fell among thieves who stripped 125 00:09:11.409 --> 00:09:16.090 him of his clothing, wounded him and departed, leaving him half dead. 126 00:09:16.210 --> 00:09:20.009 So here's this man who is left half dead, naked in the ditch and 127 00:09:20.090 --> 00:09:22.690 then, of course the parable goes on. The levite sees this man, 128 00:09:22.809 --> 00:09:26.600 passes by on the other side, the priest sees this man passes by on 129 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:31.919 the other side and then a Samaritan comes and the Samaritan sees the man, 130 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.480 looks on him with compassion and then goes into the ditch to get him out. 131 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:39.549 And that is again the philosophy of our ministry is to go into the 132 00:09:39.669 --> 00:09:43.669 ditch, right, but it has to be motivated by love for God first, 133 00:09:43.870 --> 00:09:46.269 because in line with this this parable, that's what Jesus talking about, 134 00:09:46.309 --> 00:09:50.389 right. But we're not just going and talking to the man in the ditch, 135 00:09:52.309 --> 00:09:54.500 we're not just praying about the man of the ditch, right, we're 136 00:09:54.539 --> 00:10:00.019 not just getting the community excited about doing something about the man into the ditch 137 00:10:00.100 --> 00:10:01.820 problems. Someone else to go take care of that man. And I did 138 00:10:01.899 --> 00:10:07.690 here. Am I send someone else here? I'm high. Send them here. 139 00:10:07.850 --> 00:10:09.409 My send the politicians. I mean, if you think about a lot 140 00:10:09.490 --> 00:10:13.250 of government deal with that man the ditch. But let the government. We 141 00:10:13.330 --> 00:10:15.970 need to Hey, we've got to do something about the man in the ditch. 142 00:10:15.970 --> 00:10:18.129 Let's bring it before the city council. Right, not that any of 143 00:10:18.169 --> 00:10:22.320 that is bad, but a Christian that sees a person in the ditch is 144 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:26.720 not just going to vote about the man in the ditch problem, they're going 145 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.320 to actually got into the ditch. And so that's what a sidewalk counselor does 146 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.080 and that's what we've done as a ministry's we go to the ditches in our 147 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.750 society, which are the abortion clinics. Yes, and in this case, 148 00:10:37.830 --> 00:10:41.309 of course, that baby is the one in the ditch and that mother is 149 00:10:41.389 --> 00:10:43.070 the one in the ditch. So we want to go to them, we 150 00:10:43.190 --> 00:10:46.950 want to with our voices, try to get them out of the ditch with 151 00:10:46.070 --> 00:10:50.620 the resources and things put them on our animal. That's the picture, right, 152 00:10:50.659 --> 00:10:52.580 Yep. And so he what does he do? He goes to the 153 00:10:52.659 --> 00:10:54.539 man in the ditch, he gets him out of the ditch, cleans off 154 00:10:54.659 --> 00:10:58.539 his wounds, and so that's that's the picture of US sharing the Gospel. 155 00:10:58.580 --> 00:11:03.139 What's the wound? What covers this person in sores and and and despair? 156 00:11:03.690 --> 00:11:07.250 It's sin. There's right and yeah, so we should the Gospel. Yeah, 157 00:11:07.490 --> 00:11:11.769 and then we put them on our animal and sometimes that literally means put 158 00:11:11.889 --> 00:11:15.289 them in our vehicle, driving them to a pregnancy center, driving them to 159 00:11:15.330 --> 00:11:18.679 a maternity home, which is the end, right. It's the picture. 160 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.039 Yeah, take them to an end, provide for their knees until they get 161 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.639 on their feet, and that's kind of the philosophy of ministry. Right pertains 162 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:30.080 to s right counsel. Yeah, yeah, and that, and that, 163 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:35.669 in the end, is the innkeepers paid for the ongoing care through, through 164 00:11:35.750 --> 00:11:39.149 the good Smaritan, for the ongoing care, and that's very analogous to as 165 00:11:39.230 --> 00:11:45.590 we pass these moms off to mentorship programs through you, through our sister ministry 166 00:11:45.669 --> 00:11:48.539 love life, Charlotte, so that the ongoing needs will be addressed. It's 167 00:11:48.620 --> 00:11:52.100 not just that we're going to buy put a bandage on the wound, which 168 00:11:52.220 --> 00:11:56.100 is better than what some people do, but that's not enough. That's not 169 00:11:56.299 --> 00:12:01.490 God says that's not enough. You put the bandage on, you carried them 170 00:12:01.529 --> 00:12:05.129 to a place of healing and then you provide the other ongoing yeah, one 171 00:12:05.169 --> 00:12:09.529 of the things that I'll say is that you can't properly love your neighbor like 172 00:12:09.610 --> 00:12:13.250 you're supposed to unless you love God first. Right, but you're not truly 173 00:12:13.289 --> 00:12:16.639 loving God if you're not loving your neighbor. It's like those two are todd 174 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.039 very closely together, because you you can say you love God all day long 175 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:24.600 and leave your neighbor in the ditch. Look at the priest in the Levi. 176 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.200 What do they do? Well, they're the religious people, but they 177 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:30.350 don't care about the man of the ditch. Matter of fact, they pass 178 00:12:30.429 --> 00:12:33.029 by on the other side of the road. Did they truly love God? 179 00:12:33.389 --> 00:12:35.429 Right, yeah, Morsel, that was it was evidenced in the fact that 180 00:12:35.509 --> 00:12:39.590 they walk abound the other side of the road that they didn't truly love God. 181 00:12:39.669 --> 00:12:43.389 Yes, I always found it curious that the the man, the the 182 00:12:43.509 --> 00:12:48.340 rich man who is talking to Jesus, asking him or talk, talking with 183 00:12:48.419 --> 00:12:52.340 him, and he has loved God, apparently, he says, but that 184 00:12:52.500 --> 00:12:56.059 he asks who is my neighbor? I always thought that that was an interesting 185 00:12:56.139 --> 00:13:00.490 question. Who is my neighbor? I wondered. Was He trying to like, 186 00:13:01.049 --> 00:13:05.769 limit who he would go and Save, or was he truly wondering? 187 00:13:05.850 --> 00:13:09.610 Did he really have no clue, like what parameters God would put on who, 188 00:13:11.250 --> 00:13:13.399 you know, was his neighbor or not his neighbor? Yeah, I 189 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:18.320 mean the Bible doesn't tell us why he asked that question and so we can 190 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.679 speculate on why. But Jesus certainly did so. If there were some parameters 191 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:26.750 that this man had put on who was his neighbor, j'sus certainly tore all 192 00:13:26.909 --> 00:13:31.549 that down by introducing a Samaritan into the picture. That's right, and affected 193 00:13:31.710 --> 00:13:35.269 in the enemy, yeah, of Jewish society at that time. Yeah, 194 00:13:35.549 --> 00:13:39.309 it's. And then he he sort of in a sense, well, and 195 00:13:39.870 --> 00:13:43.259 not just in the sense, just outright pits this Samaritan, who's just an 196 00:13:43.299 --> 00:13:50.980 everyday nobody kind of guy and again dejected by Jewish people, against the priests 197 00:13:50.059 --> 00:13:54.100 and the Levites, who were supposed to be like the Pinnacle of human existence 198 00:13:54.220 --> 00:13:58.570 in the Jewish mindset. And he pits them against each other and said, 199 00:13:58.610 --> 00:14:01.210 okay, this is the guy that pleased God. These guys did right, 200 00:14:01.409 --> 00:14:05.289 right, and the neighbor was that kind of the ditch, someone in, 201 00:14:05.929 --> 00:14:11.000 you know, a very compromise, vulnerable position. So your neighbor is not 202 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:15.440 necessarily someone that you know you're going to go bring them a pizza. UN 203 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:18.919 He'll, he'll bring you a pizza the next day it's someone that there's no 204 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:24.309 anticipation of any kind of reward from that person in the ditch, say and, 205 00:14:24.509 --> 00:14:30.429 and I think that paints a very perfect and analogous picture to the unborn 206 00:14:30.470 --> 00:14:33.990 babies and these women, who are often in pretty desperate, yeah, situations. 207 00:14:33.070 --> 00:14:35.669 Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Well, this next one, I 208 00:14:35.909 --> 00:14:41.419 think could be, believe, the philosophy one. That's really important. Yeah, 209 00:14:41.500 --> 00:14:43.659 understand that we're supposed to love God first. Forget that. This is 210 00:14:43.700 --> 00:14:46.980 not just about love for the man in the ditch. is about love for 211 00:14:46.019 --> 00:14:48.580 God and because of that we meet the needs of the man and that that's 212 00:14:48.580 --> 00:14:52.820 right. Mom and the baby are demonstrating our love for God. Dies actually 213 00:14:52.860 --> 00:14:54.769 treat our NA. The second one is really practical. Yes, this is 214 00:14:54.809 --> 00:14:58.570 a picture that the Lord kind of spoke to my heart and many p people 215 00:14:58.570 --> 00:15:01.690 use this. This scripture, proverbs thirty one, verses eight nine, as 216 00:15:01.730 --> 00:15:07.009 it pertains to Sidewall councling ministry. But I think there's some particulars in this 217 00:15:07.049 --> 00:15:11.799 scripture that really help us and this analogy. As you know, I'm really 218 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:16.840 kind of maybe stretching the analogy, and so you guys call me out if 219 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:18.399 you think I'm taking it too far, but I think it really fits in 220 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:24.629 so many ways with sidewalk counseling, with abortion minded women, with the abortion 221 00:15:24.710 --> 00:15:28.950 industry, and so let's hop into it. It's proverbs thirty one, eight 222 00:15:28.070 --> 00:15:31.549 and nine. You guys have heard me quote this a thousand times and you'll 223 00:15:31.590 --> 00:15:35.659 hear two thousand more. But it's open your mouth for the speechless, in 224 00:15:35.820 --> 00:15:39.940 the calls or the case of all who are appointed to die, open your 225 00:15:39.980 --> 00:15:45.779 mouth, judge righteously and plead the cause of the poor and needy. Yeah, 226 00:15:45.940 --> 00:15:48.179 so one of the things that sticks out immediately to me, and probably 227 00:15:48.299 --> 00:15:52.769 would stick out to most American Christians, is the word judge. We're told 228 00:15:52.809 --> 00:15:56.730 not to judge. That's matter of fact. That's one of the worst things 229 00:15:58.009 --> 00:16:00.330 that you can be accused of judging people right, not by the Bible but 230 00:16:00.570 --> 00:16:03.519 by by others. Yeah, but you're too modern, you're not a Christian, 231 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.279 because you're told Thou shall not judge. Right, Corsi's valid. I've 232 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:11.279 even heard it in perfect King James English. Ok, vout, shalt not 233 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.440 judgeth right. Yeah, it's one of the ten commandments of her that one's 234 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.389 well, yeah, really is it? I haven't read that. Yeah, 235 00:16:18.990 --> 00:16:23.950 but this analogy in this this scripture tells us to open our mouth, and 236 00:16:25.029 --> 00:16:27.350 that's what we do in sidewalk counseling. We've open our mouth. We literally 237 00:16:27.470 --> 00:16:30.909 speak for those that can't speak for themselves. Right. But notice, as 238 00:16:30.909 --> 00:16:33.580 I was reading through this, it says open your mouth for the speechless in 239 00:16:33.620 --> 00:16:37.100 the calls. And jumped in there and said the case, because that word 240 00:16:37.299 --> 00:16:42.659 cause can also mean case. And the analogy really here is there is a 241 00:16:42.899 --> 00:16:48.250 person who's innocent, who is scheduled to die, who's before a judge that's 242 00:16:48.289 --> 00:16:52.049 Harshan to die. Yeah, before a judge, before a judge, and 243 00:16:52.289 --> 00:16:56.490 that judge is going to condemn that person to die, right, and there's 244 00:16:56.490 --> 00:17:00.169 someone pleading, yeah, the case. Yeah, you know, we use 245 00:17:00.250 --> 00:17:06.160 the term sidewalk counselors and we're talking about we did a podcast about that a 246 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:07.680 long time ago. What is styble counseling? You guys listen to that? 247 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.880 Yeah, but the word counselor, and I think I mentioned this in that 248 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:15.559 podcast, is not just us sit down and counsel with somebody. We're doing 249 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.109 that, yes, but also has to do with like legal counsel. Yeah, 250 00:17:18.150 --> 00:17:21.589 you know, when you watch shows, if you've watched, you know, 251 00:17:21.710 --> 00:17:25.349 lawyer shows, in these law and order shows, you know they say 252 00:17:25.630 --> 00:17:27.509 counsel. What do you get to say about this? That's how the attorney 253 00:17:27.589 --> 00:17:32.420 is referred to as counsel, right, because they're not just counseling there, 254 00:17:32.539 --> 00:17:36.819 they're they're defendant. There, they're actually, on behalf of that defendant, 255 00:17:37.380 --> 00:17:41.660 giving counsel to the judge and actually pleading with the judge. Yeah, they're 256 00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:45.809 being an advocate, they are advocating for the life of their client. Yeah, 257 00:17:47.049 --> 00:17:49.890 absolutely. So how does that fit in with sidewalk counseling? And what's 258 00:17:49.970 --> 00:17:55.130 the what's the analogy? Well, here's the analogy. That baby is the 259 00:17:55.250 --> 00:17:59.359 innocent person that scheduled to die. That's a pointed. According to this point, 260 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:03.200 it's right to Anna cannot speak, that that I'm born child cannot speak. 261 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:07.759 And who is the judge in this analogy? Let's look. This is 262 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.039 an interesting part, because you guys might be tempted to think right aways you're 263 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:12.230 thinking about a judge. Okay, WHO's the judge? God, at my 264 00:18:12.349 --> 00:18:15.430 first thing. So it's got, but it's not. It's more even, 265 00:18:15.670 --> 00:18:19.309 okay, the abortionist. That's the judge. Yeah, I even think that 266 00:18:19.549 --> 00:18:22.710 that would be the case. So who are we pleading our case to, 267 00:18:22.950 --> 00:18:29.339 to tip the balance, to bring justice? Who are? Yeah, and 268 00:18:29.420 --> 00:18:32.779 so the picture is here, guys, that we're appealing to someone right, 269 00:18:33.019 --> 00:18:36.099 as the judge, as the one who can slam down the galvel and say 270 00:18:36.180 --> 00:18:38.420 innocent or guilty, right, the one that can can give a sentence, 271 00:18:38.460 --> 00:18:41.250 as the car you're set for you, right, exactly. Yeah, and 272 00:18:41.369 --> 00:18:45.529 that person in this analogy, when you're dealing with a woman going into the 273 00:18:45.569 --> 00:18:48.329 abortion clinic, is the woman that's right, she is the judge. Yeah, 274 00:18:48.410 --> 00:18:52.170 she is the judge in the jury. She's the one that gets the 275 00:18:52.250 --> 00:18:56.400 determined. Unfortunately, the way that the laws are set up in this country 276 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.680 is that she can choose to kill her child through abortion. She can do 277 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:03.079 that and not it's not right before God, but in the situation that we're 278 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:07.799 given in front of an abortion clinic, she can walk on in those doors, 279 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:10.509 and so we've got to do it. So we've got to appeal to 280 00:19:10.630 --> 00:19:12.269 her, yeah, just like we appeal to a judge. Now I want 281 00:19:12.269 --> 00:19:15.950 you, guys, to listen real closely to this, because this is really 282 00:19:15.990 --> 00:19:19.349 important, because there's there's a mentality of people that go out to abortion clinics 283 00:19:19.390 --> 00:19:22.390 that think I just show up and I just say whatever comes out of my 284 00:19:22.509 --> 00:19:26.859 mouth, and that's great and listen, understand that and I appreciate those, 285 00:19:26.980 --> 00:19:30.380 those first steps of faith and stepping out. Yeah, but if you're thinking 286 00:19:30.420 --> 00:19:33.859 about it, I believe in these biblical terms, and if that mother really 287 00:19:33.019 --> 00:19:37.660 is the judge, are you just going to show up in a court room 288 00:19:37.940 --> 00:19:41.529 and there's a judge who you hate? Might be a selfish judge, he 289 00:19:41.609 --> 00:19:45.569 might be a left leaning liberal judge. But if you're before that judge and 290 00:19:45.650 --> 00:19:48.849 you're supposed to be an attorney and you know there's a person that scheduled to 291 00:19:48.970 --> 00:19:51.690 die, that judge can slam down the gavel and say guilty, are you 292 00:19:51.769 --> 00:19:55.599 going to speak aggressively to that judge? You're going to speak in a way 293 00:19:55.640 --> 00:20:00.640 that will hopefully again make your case and make that judge want to listen to 294 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:03.279 your case. So of course you're not going to speak in a way that's 295 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:07.309 going to turn that judge off. But the other word that really grabs me 296 00:20:07.509 --> 00:20:14.390 here is how is that person supposed to judge righteously? Yeah, and so 297 00:20:14.589 --> 00:20:19.109 as you are pleading that case, you need to be your please, your 298 00:20:19.230 --> 00:20:26.619 advocacy needs to point that Judge to righteousness. Yeah, and where do we 299 00:20:26.740 --> 00:20:30.380 find that? In the word of God and the word of God and God's 300 00:20:30.380 --> 00:20:33.059 Word and God's truth. If you think about it, though, this analogy 301 00:20:33.140 --> 00:20:37.690 goes as far as even if you're a lawyer and you're advocating on behalf of 302 00:20:37.769 --> 00:20:41.529 that child to that judge, what are some what's some of the things that 303 00:20:41.970 --> 00:20:47.490 lawyers use in order to prove that their client is not guilty and doesn't deserve 304 00:20:47.569 --> 00:20:49.279 the death penalty? Yeah, well, they use facts, for sure, 305 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:55.680 and they use facts that that will show that that client is in innocent and 306 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:59.200 that that client, like deserve today evidence, you know, I have have 307 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:03.200 evidence be a you know, think number of the different pieces of evidence that 308 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:07.549 they have and you know, I think those kind of tie into the three 309 00:21:07.630 --> 00:21:11.069 talking points that we use in our side wall accouncil training, which are what 310 00:21:11.230 --> 00:21:12.710 God says about this, what God says about the baby, the mom, 311 00:21:12.910 --> 00:21:17.509 abortion, all of that, and then the humanity of the baby and the 312 00:21:17.589 --> 00:21:21.380 resources that are available. So you're like to the judge you're trying to appeal 313 00:21:21.420 --> 00:21:23.299 and say, well, God says this child is valuable, God says your 314 00:21:23.339 --> 00:21:26.460 circumstances not too hard you know, if you're appealing to the mother. Yeah, 315 00:21:26.500 --> 00:21:30.299 so what God says about it is is a piece of evidence that's try 316 00:21:30.500 --> 00:21:33.130 the humanity of the baby, because the judge, the mother in this scenario, 317 00:21:33.609 --> 00:21:37.089 doesn't actually believe the baby is a human being in some level. Right, 318 00:21:37.170 --> 00:21:41.730 she's been convinced, she's believed some lies, and so we're going to 319 00:21:41.769 --> 00:21:45.809 combat those lies with evidence and we're going to say your baby is precious, 320 00:21:45.089 --> 00:21:49.079 judge, this baby doesn't deserve this, this innocent person doesn't deserve to die. 321 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:52.640 First of all, I've got to establish that it's a person, right, 322 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.039 yeah, and so who's that is evidence? Has a heart that's already 323 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:00.319 beating, maybe has brainways six weeks, all the human DNA they'll ever have 324 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.589 at the moment of conception, and then, of course, the resources. 325 00:22:03.630 --> 00:22:07.910 Here's all this evidence of why this child doesn't have to die, why this 326 00:22:07.990 --> 00:22:11.349 innocent person doesn't have to die. Know, you think the situation is such, 327 00:22:11.990 --> 00:22:15.509 and we're appealing again to the mother, who is the judge in the 328 00:22:15.589 --> 00:22:18.059 situation. You think it's such that this baby has got to die, this 329 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:22.220 person is just got to die, because look at all these circumstances. But 330 00:22:22.420 --> 00:22:26.220 look at the rest sources. Look at these is evidence of the resources that 331 00:22:26.380 --> 00:22:30.049 show you that your circumstance is not impossible. That's right, and so so 332 00:22:30.410 --> 00:22:34.130 a good lawyer is always rational and logical, but I think all and I 333 00:22:34.250 --> 00:22:37.410 think that speaks to what you have just described. But I will say a 334 00:22:37.569 --> 00:22:44.049 good lawyer also does appeal to the emotions in that heap, he or she 335 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:52.200 presents a case that sways you so that you sense rightness and wrongness. It's 336 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.799 good and he's little, and and so there are some things that we say 337 00:22:55.880 --> 00:23:00.309 that are true facts, because we would never lie, but that also do 338 00:23:00.509 --> 00:23:06.829 appeal to the natural maternal instincts of a mother. For example, one that 339 00:23:06.990 --> 00:23:12.339 really at least moves me is your baby has vocal courts developed by twelve weeks 340 00:23:12.380 --> 00:23:17.259 and that baby can cry in the womb. And I say that not only 341 00:23:17.339 --> 00:23:22.059 as a fact and evidence, but also there's an emotional picture that's painted when 342 00:23:22.099 --> 00:23:25.940 you say a baby can cry in the womb, and when you picture that, 343 00:23:26.619 --> 00:23:32.009 I think anyone with a shred of maternal instinct is going to be moved 344 00:23:32.089 --> 00:23:34.009 by that sort of a statement. So I do think that's that's an important 345 00:23:34.009 --> 00:23:38.730 part of good sidewalk advocacy. Yeah, yeah, one of the things that 346 00:23:38.809 --> 00:23:41.640 I'll say. You know, it's true that at the moment of conception, 347 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.079 this is like medical fact, right, so we use medical science, right, 348 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:48.599 that that may be at the moment of conception is a unique human being. 349 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:53.400 So I'll say that, but also will appeal to the emotions by playing 350 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:57.910 on that fact and say there has never been, nor will there ever be, 351 00:23:59.230 --> 00:24:02.509 another person like that baby you carry in your womb. Right, that's 352 00:24:02.549 --> 00:24:06.869 a that's a true statement, but I'm using terminology and words that will appeal 353 00:24:07.470 --> 00:24:11.220 to her her emotions. Right, an emotional appeal, and to imagine that 354 00:24:11.380 --> 00:24:17.660 emotional appeals are invalid because they're not based in science or the word of God 355 00:24:18.539 --> 00:24:25.009 is is ridiculous. We give emotional appeals all the time and emotional appeals should 356 00:24:25.009 --> 00:24:29.089 be given. I mean it's sort of like it's part of our humanity, 357 00:24:29.650 --> 00:24:33.809 is that we have these emotions. God appeals to his people, and you 358 00:24:33.930 --> 00:24:37.930 look through the prophets, how God emotionally appeals to the children of Israel turned 359 00:24:37.970 --> 00:24:41.519 back to him. He pours out. Look what I've done? I stretch 360 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:45.319 out my hands all day long to a wicked and obstinate people. Yeah, 361 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.519 and you get this this picture of God being so weary with always reaching out 362 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.869 and we're not returning and we're not coming to him, or he gathers them 363 00:24:52.910 --> 00:24:55.349 as a hen. Yeah, gather's her chicks under the way. So, 364 00:24:55.509 --> 00:24:59.230 of course, if all of our advocacy, if all of our as an 365 00:24:59.269 --> 00:25:02.549 attorney on behalf of that baby is just wrapped up in emotions, well, 366 00:25:02.789 --> 00:25:04.630 we're going to miss the mark. They're right, right. Their emotions, 367 00:25:04.750 --> 00:25:07.619 though, on the other hand, they're definite, definitely, I definitely agree 368 00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:11.740 with you that that is only a very small portion of what we do. 369 00:25:11.140 --> 00:25:18.700 But their emotions have already been worked upon in a way that against the case 370 00:25:18.059 --> 00:25:22.569 for the baby. Yeah, absolutely, by the abortion industry. Oh, 371 00:25:22.650 --> 00:25:26.089 you'll be so much better off with without this child, all those dreams and 372 00:25:26.210 --> 00:25:29.650 goals that you have. And yes, you really are too poor and unable 373 00:25:30.009 --> 00:25:33.730 and and just think how much better life will be without this child. So 374 00:25:33.970 --> 00:25:37.599 we want to work on emotions righteously and with facts, but emotions that are 375 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:42.599 going to again sway them to truly regard their child the way that God, 376 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:47.920 which desired they regard there absolutely ought me all of this and of course, 377 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:49.910 if you guys are listened, listen to us for any amount of time. 378 00:25:49.950 --> 00:25:53.390 You know, this is the Gospel Center, Prayer Life podcast. We don't 379 00:25:53.430 --> 00:25:57.950 just make make emotional appeals. We're appealing from the word of God. That's 380 00:25:57.990 --> 00:26:02.549 right, and we ought to have. The word of God is what changes 381 00:26:02.589 --> 00:26:04.900 a heart, not just emotions or whatever, but God in his word does 382 00:26:04.980 --> 00:26:10.420 make emotional appeals. Jesus makes emotional appeals and and we see this all through 383 00:26:10.500 --> 00:26:15.660 the scripture and again as counselors on behalf of that baby, as attorneys on 384 00:26:15.700 --> 00:26:18.210 behalf of that baby, we're we're appealing to the mother and she have to 385 00:26:18.289 --> 00:26:22.210 think about this, because there are folks that come out to an abortion center 386 00:26:22.289 --> 00:26:26.450 like I've mentioned, who just set up and they just preach and they, 387 00:26:26.890 --> 00:26:30.809 you know, bring a message of repent and I get it. I understand 388 00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:34.079 that and I'm not against a message of repentance. We're going that's the goal. 389 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:38.240 We're aiming for repentance. Want to them to see their sin so that 390 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.640 they'll repent. But that's that's the key. We want them to see their 391 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.359 sin. If all you do is say repent and you've not laid out the 392 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.789 case for why abortion is sin, yeah, then they don't really know what 393 00:26:49.910 --> 00:26:53.430 they are repenting of. Yeah, yeah, they don't really understand what you're 394 00:26:53.470 --> 00:26:57.950 saying. Yeah, yeah, because I've had people here in Charlotte stand in 395 00:26:59.029 --> 00:27:03.299 front of the abortion clinic on the sidewalk and literally just yell repent, repent. 396 00:27:03.380 --> 00:27:07.339 Okay, that you have to first of all explain what you're talking about 397 00:27:07.339 --> 00:27:11.460 when you're saying repent, right, because it is a word commonly used in 398 00:27:12.380 --> 00:27:15.089 church circles, and it should be. It's a biblical word. Yeah, 399 00:27:15.410 --> 00:27:21.210 but there's also a corresponding explanation with the word repent. It means to turn 400 00:27:21.210 --> 00:27:26.289 away from what you're doing to something else, and so I think we need 401 00:27:26.329 --> 00:27:30.599 to be very explanator. We're talking about repenting when you're walking into an abortion 402 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.400 clinic. What is it to repent? What's to stop in your tracks, 403 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.720 to turn around and go the other way? And repentance can mean coming over 404 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.000 and talking to US sidewalk counselor and of course it does mean leaving the abortion 405 00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:45.470 clinic. Right, right. So again we're appealing to that mother. She 406 00:27:45.789 --> 00:27:48.589 is the judge, like it or lump it, in this situation. She 407 00:27:48.829 --> 00:27:53.309 is the one that could slam down that galvel and say this shold is guilty 408 00:27:53.670 --> 00:27:56.430 condemned to death. Yeah, and you know what? We can call in 409 00:27:56.630 --> 00:28:00.740 other witnesses. Now, that is yeah, necessarily in analogy goes along, 410 00:28:00.779 --> 00:28:03.420 Wi me tell you. But I'm thinking as you're talking that yes, she 411 00:28:03.500 --> 00:28:07.500 is the judge, but there are people do influence the judge in a real 412 00:28:07.539 --> 00:28:12.569 court room and in the courtroom of the abortion center, there are other witnesses 413 00:28:12.650 --> 00:28:17.049 that you can call in. And and I'm not talking about just other sidewalk 414 00:28:17.089 --> 00:28:21.289 counselors, but the other people that can influence that woman and and and it's 415 00:28:21.569 --> 00:28:25.210 largely the father of the baby, if the father the baby's on your side, 416 00:28:25.809 --> 00:28:30.160 friends, drivers, the mother, the abortion minded mom, whatever, 417 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:34.359 there are other people who could be called in. Their testimony could be called 418 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:40.680 upon to also sway that judge. Yeah, mother absolutely in which which way 419 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:41.829 she's going to get. And if you think about it, we've seen this 420 00:28:41.950 --> 00:28:45.670 play out a lot many times. Young man standing out there shooting the breeze, 421 00:28:45.710 --> 00:28:48.230 waiting for their girlfriend to have the abortion and come back out. And 422 00:28:48.269 --> 00:28:52.750 I'll try to appeal to him, if I can win him over and convince 423 00:28:52.829 --> 00:28:56.619 him it, lay out a case to him and win him over to become 424 00:28:56.660 --> 00:29:00.500 a witness on behalf of that baby. See how this analogies. It's so 425 00:29:00.660 --> 00:29:04.019 good. And if I can get him to be a witness on behalf of 426 00:29:04.099 --> 00:29:08.579 that baby, my words could just fall to the ground, but his words 427 00:29:08.859 --> 00:29:12.970 will have far more weight than mine. Yeah, and he can convince the 428 00:29:14.130 --> 00:29:17.849 judge. Right, hey, judge, and I mean let's think about it. 429 00:29:18.009 --> 00:29:22.410 What if, for example, this is the judge's sister, if you 430 00:29:22.490 --> 00:29:25.559 could have a listen, if you were going to go before a judge as 431 00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:30.039 a lawyer and plead the case for an innocent person, what if you were 432 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.160 good friends with a judge's sister? You think maybe you can put in a 433 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:34.599 good word, you know, you think maybe you can do some kind of 434 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:37.519 behind the scenes talking, you know, and maybe talking a little bit of 435 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.430 underhand and stuff here, but which we would do, but wouldn't do. 436 00:29:41.589 --> 00:29:45.470 But in the scenario when we've got an abortion on abortion engaged woman inside the 437 00:29:45.470 --> 00:29:48.750 abortion in those in her sisters out in the parking lot waiting for her, 438 00:29:48.910 --> 00:29:52.299 if I can convince her, Hey, go in there and influence of going 439 00:29:52.339 --> 00:29:56.019 there and influence this mother. Yeah, and talk to her, tell her 440 00:29:56.140 --> 00:30:00.059 that will help her, tell her that her baby is precious. I mean 441 00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:03.980 we have literally seen this play out, absolutely and we've seen lives safe because 442 00:30:03.460 --> 00:30:07.809 we're taking the time to try to influence witnesses on behalf of that baby. 443 00:30:07.809 --> 00:30:11.049 Yeah, I got another good one. This is so good, so so 444 00:30:11.410 --> 00:30:18.930 all judges are impressed by the attorneys, the advocates, who can say you 445 00:30:18.009 --> 00:30:23.119 must make this decision because of some precedent. Yeah, right, absolutely so. 446 00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:27.359 As I'm thinking about our abortion minded mom so often we see them walk 447 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.759 in with another child. There's a child in the car, there's and so 448 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:37.269 the precedent is you gave life, you brought to term that other baby that's 449 00:30:37.309 --> 00:30:41.670 in the back seat of your car. Does that baby have value? Do 450 00:30:41.789 --> 00:30:45.990 you love that baby? Is that baby precious? was that baby precious from 451 00:30:45.990 --> 00:30:48.509 the moment of conception? All of which she'd have to answer yes, logically. 452 00:30:48.549 --> 00:30:53.220 Well, the precedent has been set. Yeah, you know the value 453 00:30:53.940 --> 00:30:57.140 of your children. Yeah, and that baby in the womb. And even 454 00:30:57.180 --> 00:31:02.259 the precedent of the faithfulness of God. That's how I will mention that. 455 00:31:02.819 --> 00:31:07.049 Wasn't called faithful whenever you are pregnant with this child and he carried you through 456 00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:11.410 and you're here today in that child of blessing. Yeah, even sharing testimonies 457 00:31:11.849 --> 00:31:15.730 again, testimony, yeah, of people who we've encountered that have chosen life 458 00:31:15.730 --> 00:31:21.200 in similar situations to that mother. Will help, right, it'll help sway 459 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.119 the judge. So, anyway, guess I hope this is a helpful analogy. 460 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.799 Yeah, because again we're trying to persuade the judge, who is the 461 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:32.279 mother in this situation, that her baby is innocent and doesn't deserve to die. 462 00:31:32.869 --> 00:31:34.309 Also, you don't want you to think about how you would talk to 463 00:31:34.390 --> 00:31:38.950 a judge because again, I see some some aggressiveness in front of abortion clinics 464 00:31:38.950 --> 00:31:45.109 where people are really aggressive and our name calling, Our Name calling or whatever 465 00:31:45.150 --> 00:31:48.019 right they're doing. Yeah, think about, though, you're standing in front 466 00:31:48.019 --> 00:31:52.339 of a judge and again, this judge might be a total like, you 467 00:31:52.460 --> 00:31:57.220 know, in our world view, left leaning total just has has no point 468 00:31:57.259 --> 00:32:01.529 of contact with you at all as far as anything politically or whatever. Yeah, 469 00:32:02.089 --> 00:32:06.769 and you know, in any other scenario you would just be in a 470 00:32:06.890 --> 00:32:10.130 very confrontational conversation with this person calling out all their wrongs. But if you're 471 00:32:10.130 --> 00:32:15.170 standing before them and they're the judge and there's an innocent person that's that can 472 00:32:15.250 --> 00:32:17.400 potentially die, you're going to speak a little softer. Well, in an 473 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:21.319 actual court room, you rise, you call them your honor and you treat 474 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.799 them with absolute respect, and I think that is again biblical. I think 475 00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:30.069 we are called to treat each other with respect. That's parts being a good 476 00:32:30.190 --> 00:32:36.309 neighbor and and honoring God. And how more important went in this analogy. 477 00:32:36.589 --> 00:32:40.630 If the person you're trying to influence, if you're disrespectful to them, that 478 00:32:40.990 --> 00:32:45.700 they have no reason to trust you or to listen to you in their mind. 479 00:32:45.900 --> 00:32:49.859 Yeah, and I've even seen, let's just take again this analogy. 480 00:32:49.900 --> 00:32:52.259 You're standing in a court room, you're an attorney on behalf of a person 481 00:32:52.339 --> 00:32:55.700 that you know is innocent and you're appealing to the judge and you begin to 482 00:32:55.740 --> 00:33:00.329 get aggressive and you began to get like condemning toward the judge and that judge 483 00:33:00.369 --> 00:33:02.890 speeds up the trial and says, you know what, Hey, guilty. 484 00:33:04.089 --> 00:33:07.809 That's exactly right, and that happens a lot. I've seen it in front 485 00:33:07.809 --> 00:33:10.410 of the abortion clinic here in Charlotte, other abortion clinics, where you have 486 00:33:10.490 --> 00:33:15.400 a mom that's walking in slowly, she's walking from her car to the door, 487 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:20.039 and you've got someone who's calling out of that person in an aggressive way. 488 00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.559 That's just overthe top. Don't go in there and murder your child. 489 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:27.430 You're a murderer if you have an abortion. and that woman speeds up said 490 00:33:27.509 --> 00:33:30.309 she laps the gambled down even quicker. She's not considering it's almost like you've 491 00:33:30.349 --> 00:33:35.750 pushed the judge to go ahead and make a decision, whereas she would actually 492 00:33:35.789 --> 00:33:38.750 consider your evidence if you would just be patient, slow down a little bit, 493 00:33:39.150 --> 00:33:44.500 speak a little soft, little more softly. Appeal to them. And 494 00:33:44.900 --> 00:33:49.140 again it's ultimately it's the Lord that's going to change the heart. But we 495 00:33:49.380 --> 00:33:52.539 have to be working alongside what the Lord is doing. Right in the Lord 496 00:33:52.660 --> 00:33:58.009 is gracious and compassionate, he's slow to anger and rich and loving kindness. 497 00:33:58.289 --> 00:34:00.970 Doesn't mean he doesn't get angry, he certainly does. But the anger of 498 00:34:01.130 --> 00:34:05.369 Man Does Not work the righteousness of God. The Bible says, and you 499 00:34:05.490 --> 00:34:08.409 know, I'll tell folks, listen, if there's any plays where it's justifiable 500 00:34:08.530 --> 00:34:14.760 to get angry and to just lose your mind, it's a it's in front 501 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.760 of the abortion clinic. I get it, I understand that, but it's 502 00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:21.760 not helpful because you're going to you're not going to persuade that judge. Matter 503 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.789 of fact, you might push that judge to make a premature decision. That's 504 00:34:24.829 --> 00:34:30.150 right. And and the executioner is the abortionist. Yeah, and and the 505 00:34:30.389 --> 00:34:34.750 and that's it's life for death. It's very important. It's very important what's 506 00:34:34.789 --> 00:34:38.340 happening at there. Yeah. So that analogy is very helpful in so many 507 00:34:38.380 --> 00:34:42.940 ways and there's so many other aspects that we could bring into play here, 508 00:34:43.860 --> 00:34:45.619 but I hope it helped you. Guys. We's pop into our next one. 509 00:34:45.900 --> 00:34:51.579 Yeah, Pres Primary Goal, yeah, purpose, the purpose and primary 510 00:34:51.659 --> 00:34:55.090 goal, and primary goal is so important because in in any pro life ministry, 511 00:34:55.210 --> 00:34:59.730 no matter what kind of pro life ministry you're in, there are all 512 00:34:59.769 --> 00:35:07.010 kinds of competing things that take your attention sometimes the way from that primary purpose 513 00:35:07.130 --> 00:35:10.000 and to the point where it can destroy a ministry if it becomes so fragmented, 514 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:15.599 so distracted, and I think maybe no place more so than at that 515 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.039 place of life and death, right. Yeah, yeah, and this is 516 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:23.670 at the abortion center, literally the last moments, that's right before that judge, 517 00:35:23.829 --> 00:35:29.510 that's right, gonna Slam that gavel and say guilty. Yeah, death, 518 00:35:29.949 --> 00:35:31.949 the death penalty. Yeah, and so that's why there are no appeals? 519 00:35:31.989 --> 00:35:36.059 Yeah, there are any. There's no appeals into yes, taken. 520 00:35:36.179 --> 00:35:38.420 That's right, there's there's no appeal to that. Yeah, and so we 521 00:35:38.539 --> 00:35:42.420 have to, you know, be tactful in the way that we we speak 522 00:35:42.420 --> 00:35:45.619 to the judge, but we have to also understand. Taking it to to 523 00:35:45.699 --> 00:35:47.619 a different analogy, which is a fun analogy. Yeah, is that there's 524 00:35:47.619 --> 00:35:52.050 going to be distractions. Abortion is the devil's pride and joy. Yeah, 525 00:35:52.369 --> 00:35:57.530 if you're in front of an abortion clinic, don't be surprised if the enemy 526 00:35:57.650 --> 00:36:02.849 sends distractions. And the picture I give people is said, imagine the abortion 527 00:36:04.010 --> 00:36:08.480 clinic and imagining just abortion in general is a big steamy pile of manure. 528 00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:14.199 Okay, because it's bad and it's stinks, it's a mess. It is 529 00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.920 and we've been called by God to clean up the mess, right, and 530 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:21.590 we're using our gospel shovels because we know that the Gospel is the only thing 531 00:36:21.670 --> 00:36:23.309 that's going to clean up the mess. That's or shovels, I like. 532 00:36:23.630 --> 00:36:28.389 Do you like that? Or using our Gospel Shovels, may by act me 533 00:36:29.670 --> 00:36:31.429 company and makes all the good stuff, and we're there to clean up the 534 00:36:31.469 --> 00:36:37.099 mess, right, and we're keeping our head down and we're scooping. It's 535 00:36:37.139 --> 00:36:38.579 a big mess and we're going to be busy for a long time, because 536 00:36:38.619 --> 00:36:42.500 you for a while. Yeah, but what happens with a big steamy Polo 537 00:36:42.539 --> 00:36:45.699 maneure? Well, it attracts, sadly, flies and other tracks. Flies 538 00:36:46.019 --> 00:36:51.409 of all kinds. Yeah, and this is kind of funny. It attracts 539 00:36:51.449 --> 00:36:54.449 flies. You know, there's green, shiny kind horse flies. Yeah, 540 00:36:54.489 --> 00:36:59.409 they just common household fly. Oh, kind of flies. It attracts in 541 00:36:59.570 --> 00:37:02.039 flies. They come for all different kinds of reasons. Some come to eat, 542 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.800 yeah, some come to lay eggs, some clump come just because everybody 543 00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.079 else is going. Some are well meaning flies, they want to help you 544 00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:15.400 clean up the mess, but they're flies nonetheless. And see what I use 545 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:20.230 this analogy? It's because we as Gospel centered side of all counselors, s 546 00:37:20.429 --> 00:37:23.989 blers, shovelers, shovelers will get distracted and spat and flies. Right. 547 00:37:24.030 --> 00:37:29.030 Yeah, and when you get distracted in Swaton flies and when, example, 548 00:37:29.230 --> 00:37:31.980 is pro abortion people, yeah, people that are coming out there that escorts, 549 00:37:34.139 --> 00:37:37.099 you know, counter air quotes, counter protesters. They want to try 550 00:37:37.099 --> 00:37:40.820 to get you distracted and talking to them. And I've seen pro lifers. 551 00:37:40.820 --> 00:37:45.210 I'll listen. I've done it myself where I let those people, the pro 552 00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:47.409 abortion people, be the focus. They're out there in their bright vests and 553 00:37:47.730 --> 00:37:51.889 and I just abhor what they stand for. But because they stand for murder 554 00:37:52.050 --> 00:37:54.570 and they're so deceived and you so desperately want to sell on, sometimmer just 555 00:37:54.690 --> 00:37:59.159 nasty and s they say things push your buttons. Yeah, and you get 556 00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.800 distracted. Yeah, and even though you were appealing to that mother. This 557 00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:07.599 is one of the reasons why distractions are just not a not a good thing, 558 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.280 in distractions in this way specially. You know you've graciously appealed to that 559 00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:14.909 abortion minded mom. She's gone into the abortion clinic. She's considered what you 560 00:38:14.989 --> 00:38:17.110 said. She's gone on into the abortion clinic. She might actually come back 561 00:38:17.150 --> 00:38:22.150 out and talk you, who knows. Meanwhile, you've gotten distracted swaton flies. 562 00:38:22.150 --> 00:38:24.190 You're arguing with a pro abortion advocate, and that woman who saw you 563 00:38:24.670 --> 00:38:28.380 as she was going in you're really nice and kind and she's thinking maybe I 564 00:38:28.420 --> 00:38:30.659 want to go out there and talk. Now looks out the window and see 565 00:38:30.699 --> 00:38:32.739 you're out there fighting with one of the pro abortion people, and so the 566 00:38:32.820 --> 00:38:37.380 same stuff she's got going on her heart, the confusion, the ants, 567 00:38:37.500 --> 00:38:39.179 the anger she's seen out there on the sidewalk and she's like, well, 568 00:38:39.619 --> 00:38:42.690 they got nothing more than what I got going on. I'm not going to 569 00:38:42.769 --> 00:38:45.449 talk to that person. I don't need to listen or you know, and 570 00:38:45.730 --> 00:38:49.170 if you think about it, what's happened in that scenario? With this analogy? 571 00:38:49.650 --> 00:38:52.570 You've dropped your shovel, yeah, and you've dropped it in the manure 572 00:38:52.929 --> 00:38:54.409 and it's splashed up on you. That's right. You know you'RE gonna pick 573 00:38:54.409 --> 00:38:57.679 up a dirty show. Yeah, you can pick up over your hands and 574 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.239 it's going to slip in, slide, and you have lost your effectiveness. 575 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:04.119 Yeah, absolutely. So that's why I've got to be careful. Also, 576 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.599 and I've seen it, where you'll attract, remember I said, some well 577 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:12.630 meaning flies. There's some quote, pro lifers or whatever that come out there, 578 00:39:12.670 --> 00:39:15.829 right, and the reality is there, just there because, hey, 579 00:39:15.829 --> 00:39:17.150 it looks like fun just to be there. Yeah, and they end up 580 00:39:17.150 --> 00:39:22.030 being a distraction. Then you find yourself arguing with them, arguing methodology, 581 00:39:22.469 --> 00:39:24.860 arguing theology, out in front of the abortion clinic. And Listen, I'm 582 00:39:24.900 --> 00:39:29.380 a theology Geek. Okay, I read theology, I like theology. I 583 00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:34.099 study theology. Theology is important. It does matter. Yes, the people 584 00:39:34.099 --> 00:39:37.690 that say theology doesn't matter don't know their bibles. Theology does matter. But 585 00:39:37.849 --> 00:39:43.250 arguing theology in front of an abortion clinic is swaton flies. I'm telling you, 586 00:39:43.369 --> 00:39:45.329 it's Swat and flies. That can be had in some other context. 587 00:39:45.730 --> 00:39:49.969 But again, if you're arguing with your with each other, and I don't 588 00:39:50.010 --> 00:39:52.119 care what you say, you might not be with that group or you may 589 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:57.000 say, well, we disassociate with that group. But from an abortion minded 590 00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:00.199 mom, again, that judge. Looking from that side to the sidewalk where 591 00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.679 you are, she sees one group of people. That doesn't matter how separated 592 00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.269 you are to matter if you've got two different kinds of t shirts on both 593 00:40:08.510 --> 00:40:12.230 groups. Are All three groups, or whatever they're standing on the on the 594 00:40:12.269 --> 00:40:15.309 pro life side of the sidewalk, so to spam, are all one monolithic 595 00:40:15.429 --> 00:40:20.309 group to her. So if you're fighting among yourselves, again you're displaying nothing 596 00:40:20.389 --> 00:40:23.260 but the same confusion, angst and all that stuff that she's got going on 597 00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:28.460 her heart. And again, your Swat and flies right. Another funny example 598 00:40:28.699 --> 00:40:32.820 is we have, and it's just like so obvious this what this is. 599 00:40:32.860 --> 00:40:37.570 We have a man who at the abortion clinic here, owns a business just 600 00:40:37.650 --> 00:40:44.050 around the corner right and he walks through almost every day on his lunch hour 601 00:40:44.489 --> 00:40:49.570 and he just rails on us for teaching false theology, for believing that God 602 00:40:49.690 --> 00:40:54.159 has triune so where houses her said idolager's trinity? God worshippers and he wants 603 00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:58.400 to get in. Listen. I've gotten in those conversations. I've talked to 604 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.679 him lengthy conversations for an hour. But guess what, it was just Swat 605 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:06.150 and flies. He was just a distraction that came to get me focused off 606 00:41:06.230 --> 00:41:08.070 of why I was there. You know, when you feel called to go 607 00:41:08.150 --> 00:41:13.190 to an abortion clinic, that's a that's a pretty unique calling. You know, 608 00:41:13.349 --> 00:41:15.230 for a lot of Christians it just never would enter into the equation for 609 00:41:15.309 --> 00:41:19.820 them. I believe there's a lot more Christians that are called out there than 610 00:41:19.860 --> 00:41:22.300 actually go. But when you got that calling, understand you didn't. God 611 00:41:22.340 --> 00:41:27.019 didn't call you to go out then reach the pro abortion escorts. He didn't 612 00:41:27.059 --> 00:41:29.940 call you to go out there and reaches reach the security guard, even though 613 00:41:29.940 --> 00:41:31.780 they're all valuable. Exactly. They're all I'm not I'm not equating them with 614 00:41:31.889 --> 00:41:36.650 flies because they're not valuable human being. It's just an analogy. So breaks 615 00:41:36.690 --> 00:41:38.809 down. They're human beings. They're made in God's image. Yeah, God 616 00:41:38.849 --> 00:41:42.369 would save them in a moment if they would turn to him. Yeah, 617 00:41:42.449 --> 00:41:45.809 but he didn't call you there to reach them. They may get reached by 618 00:41:46.090 --> 00:41:49.519 kind of default. Right, you're preaching the Gospel. They're here in the 619 00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.280 Gospel. Right, God could reach they're seeing live solely. There are times 620 00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.280 when it's appropriate to have a conversation with them. Right, but if you 621 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:59.480 let them be the focus, you're going to get distracted, you're going to 622 00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:01.750 Drop Your Shovel, your Gospel Shovel, in the mass, you're going to 623 00:42:01.789 --> 00:42:06.389 get the mess on you and it's not going to go so well. Right, 624 00:42:06.510 --> 00:42:09.349 take it from me, learn from Mama's Day. Don't get distracted Swat 625 00:42:09.429 --> 00:42:13.909 and flies. Now, what in the world does this have to do with 626 00:42:13.989 --> 00:42:19.260 the Bible? And there are, there are actually many, many examples in 627 00:42:19.340 --> 00:42:22.860 the Bible of leaders doing good work, doing good ministry, called by God, 628 00:42:23.699 --> 00:42:29.820 who get distracted by things that are valuable and important. Yeah, and 629 00:42:30.250 --> 00:42:36.849 in doing so they their effectiveness in their main ministry is dampened. YEA, 630 00:42:36.969 --> 00:42:39.650 so they it's like I said when we started out, the good is always 631 00:42:39.650 --> 00:42:43.449 the enemy of the best. Right, right, get distracted, I get 632 00:42:43.489 --> 00:42:45.920 off course. And one of those stories, yeah, is the story of 633 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:50.039 Moses. Yeah, it's great, great and great, you know, and 634 00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.840 probably more appropriate than than even your maneuver and flies. Yeah, and maybe, 635 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.400 maybe. And so where's that story yet? Okay, so that. 636 00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:02.309 So that story is in exodus eighteen. Okay, exodus eighteen. And and 637 00:43:02.469 --> 00:43:08.550 really the story where Moses gets distracted and how he learns to deal with that, 638 00:43:08.829 --> 00:43:15.300 based on Wise Council, is pretty much in verses thirteen through twenty seven. 639 00:43:15.539 --> 00:43:16.179 Okay, well, I'm not going to read all of that. You 640 00:43:16.260 --> 00:43:22.059 guys can read that. But base through the picture is God called Moses to 641 00:43:22.139 --> 00:43:24.139 be a deliverer of the children of Israel, right, to go down to 642 00:43:24.300 --> 00:43:28.769 Egypt to deliver his people. You guys know the story the ten plagues. 643 00:43:28.769 --> 00:43:32.449 Ultimately, Moses leads the children of Israel through the Wilderness. Yeah, but 644 00:43:32.610 --> 00:43:36.809 some things happen in the wilderness and the children of is Alary, Israel, 645 00:43:36.969 --> 00:43:39.489 certainly got distracted, yeah, from getting to the Promised Land. Yeah, 646 00:43:39.650 --> 00:43:44.000 yeah, and for forty years wandered in the wilderness. Yeah, but Moses 647 00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.719 was called to lead them, was called to lead them to the promised land. 648 00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:51.119 Right, right, but he gets distracted. Yeah, they're grumbling, 649 00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.639 they have all kinds of complaints and problems and they go to Moses and they 650 00:43:54.789 --> 00:44:00.230 and they say to Moses, because he's the leader, solve these some of 651 00:44:00.309 --> 00:44:01.630 these problems. Yeah, I mean, he's got a lot of people, 652 00:44:02.070 --> 00:44:07.309 he's got and they want him. Moses, we need you to sort through 653 00:44:07.630 --> 00:44:09.659 all of our issues. Right, I've got an argument with my neighbor here. 654 00:44:09.659 --> 00:44:12.900 I need you to sort through there. Right. I've got a little 655 00:44:12.940 --> 00:44:15.139 bit of concern here with with the law that you gave or some of these 656 00:44:15.179 --> 00:44:17.780 rules and stuff, and I'm not really sure. Can you clarify here? 657 00:44:17.940 --> 00:44:21.699 Right, and you give some clearity here. Can you speak into this situation? 658 00:44:21.780 --> 00:44:25.050 Yeah, and so Moses, though he's called to deliver and lead the 659 00:44:25.090 --> 00:44:29.610 children of Israel through the Wilderness to the Promised Land, is getting distracted with 660 00:44:29.809 --> 00:44:34.969 all kinds of other complaints and all kinds of other concerns. So he's growing 661 00:44:35.050 --> 00:44:42.199 weary and he's growing overwhelmed. Not Distraction can lead to many other terrible things, 662 00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.480 just absolute just being just overburdened. And that was what happened with Moses. 663 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.880 He was overburdened with all this and he didn't even recognize it, which 664 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.710 I think is interesting. It was it was his fatherin law who recognized it. 665 00:44:53.829 --> 00:44:58.989 Moses himself was just doing his best and screwing trying to solve all of 666 00:44:59.070 --> 00:45:01.469 this. Yeah, and what a certain he's called on. Hey, you 667 00:45:01.909 --> 00:45:05.550 cannot do all this. Maybe. Yeah, well, here it is. 668 00:45:05.590 --> 00:45:08.059 It's so. It says. So. When Moses Father in law saw all 669 00:45:08.139 --> 00:45:10.539 that he did for the people, he said, what is this thing that 670 00:45:10.619 --> 00:45:15.340 you're doing for the people? Why do you alone sit and all the people 671 00:45:15.460 --> 00:45:19.619 stand before you? Morning until evening? He's Tuking till he's name. That's 672 00:45:19.659 --> 00:45:22.809 not leading, that's standing there solving all these varieties and rather than lead them 673 00:45:22.849 --> 00:45:28.170 through the Wilderness and really getting with God, Getting Direction from the Lord, 674 00:45:28.210 --> 00:45:30.130 because that's what Moses was doing, spending time with the Lord, get direction 675 00:45:30.170 --> 00:45:35.130 from him and being loved through the wildern right, he's dealing with all these 676 00:45:35.250 --> 00:45:37.559 everyday quarrels with the people. Yeah, and Moses said to his father in 677 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.280 law, because the people come to me and it to inquire of God, 678 00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:45.599 so that we want you, Moses, to be the mediator between God. 679 00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:47.719 For us that's a good thing. It's a good that's a great thing. 680 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.590 Right. So is it the best? If, but is it the best? 681 00:45:51.710 --> 00:45:54.630 Right? And so Moses father in law, goes on to say this 682 00:45:54.829 --> 00:45:59.389 is not a good thing. Yes, what you're doing is not. He's 683 00:45:59.469 --> 00:46:02.590 basically saying, Moses, you're getting distractive from the main thing here. Yeah, 684 00:46:02.630 --> 00:46:07.380 you're dropping your shovel and renewer. Right, getting the mess on you. 685 00:46:07.579 --> 00:46:10.980 Right. Is it good to reach pro abortion people? Yeah, for 686 00:46:12.139 --> 00:46:15.619 the Lord, just as these good right to be inquired. For the I 687 00:46:15.659 --> 00:46:19.730 mean Lord, if you're an in front of an abortion for any amount of 688 00:46:19.769 --> 00:46:22.170 time, you'll get questions from people that will try to distract you, especially 689 00:46:22.210 --> 00:46:25.809 talking to pro abortion people. I mean I've had, quote, good conversation 690 00:46:25.969 --> 00:46:30.530 with the pro abortion people to about theology, about the existence of God. 691 00:46:31.090 --> 00:46:36.639 But guess what I find out? I'm sitting here talking to this person about 692 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.360 whatever you want. I mean, they'll take you around the mountain. You'll 693 00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:43.280 think, okay, I'm going to reach this person right and listen, God 694 00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.239 can do it. So I'm not discounting that. But you give every apologetic 695 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:51.150 under the sun and you find out you you've actually began and ended in the 696 00:46:51.190 --> 00:46:53.510 same place. Right, and we're not listening to you. They were distracting 697 00:46:53.550 --> 00:46:57.949 you. And while you're having that conversation with that pro abortion person, there's 698 00:46:57.949 --> 00:47:00.190 a mom that just zipped into the driveway, just walked into the door of 699 00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:06.219 the abortion clinic, and she didn't get any kind of Christian voice, no 700 00:47:06.380 --> 00:47:08.820 appeal to her, no ad because all of your attention was focused on that 701 00:47:08.900 --> 00:47:12.699 probortion person. That's right, there's no one speaking for that being. And 702 00:47:12.780 --> 00:47:15.130 the same way in this story with Moses, he's poured into these people, 703 00:47:15.170 --> 00:47:20.369 he's sorting through their issues, they're bringing their things before him and rather than 704 00:47:20.409 --> 00:47:23.489 being the deliver that he's called to be, he gets distracted and becomes a 705 00:47:23.650 --> 00:47:28.369 judge between the people. Right, jeth row ultimately gives him some wise counsel 706 00:47:28.409 --> 00:47:30.079 and says, Hey, you need to find some other guys. They can 707 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:35.199 do this, delegate to what you're doing. Yeah, yeah, and so 708 00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.320 hopefully that helps you guys. That picture helps you guys, because it can. 709 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:43.199 You can easily get distracted out there and there can be some delegation of 710 00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.710 things within sidewalk counseling. I mean, we've done it as far as we've 711 00:47:45.710 --> 00:47:50.510 got a big enough team. The pro abortion people we know because we've read 712 00:47:50.550 --> 00:47:52.949 their training information. So we're cuted into what they're doing. They're trying to 713 00:47:52.949 --> 00:47:57.590 get us in conversations. We know it's because they want to distract us from 714 00:47:57.590 --> 00:48:00.139 engaging with board abortion minded women, right. They say that in they're training. 715 00:48:00.340 --> 00:48:04.260 Yeah, and so we do is kind of turn their tactic on them 716 00:48:04.300 --> 00:48:07.059 and we've got a big enough team, will send somebody to go and talk 717 00:48:07.179 --> 00:48:10.219 to them and get an endless conversation so that if a vehicle stops, for 718 00:48:10.300 --> 00:48:14.650 example, they don't come and jump in between the person talking to that lady 719 00:48:14.690 --> 00:48:17.570 in the car and interrupt the the the conversation so that they drive on in. 720 00:48:17.889 --> 00:48:21.090 They're in a conversation with us, right, and they don't want to 721 00:48:21.090 --> 00:48:22.889 pull away from it because we're trying to be compelling. And Yeah, all 722 00:48:22.929 --> 00:48:25.530 that we're saying. And so we were set kind of lovingated. We have 723 00:48:25.809 --> 00:48:30.119 delegated so that we can keep the main thing, the main thing. Yeah, 724 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.519 absolutely. Yeah, and I get distracted by flies and a little curious 725 00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:39.280 about what those mate well meaning flies are, the well meaning flies and, 726 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:43.389 like I said, some of the Christians that show up. Well, I 727 00:48:43.909 --> 00:48:46.190 I meant real well meaning flies. I'm not familiar with that. Oh well, 728 00:48:46.309 --> 00:48:50.550 that was just part of the analogy. That's maybe we're actually breaks down. 729 00:48:50.750 --> 00:48:55.659 Okay, but again, the picture is don't get distracted. Yeah, 730 00:48:55.820 --> 00:49:00.219 why are you there? Focus on why you're there. So hopefully this helps 731 00:49:00.260 --> 00:49:05.340 you guys with sidewall counseling ministry and maybe just pro life ministry in general. 732 00:49:05.380 --> 00:49:09.170 Yeah, these analogies help me. For sure share these analogies with other people, 733 00:49:09.210 --> 00:49:12.929 especially the fun manure one, because I'm yeah, it's Feah. I 734 00:49:12.969 --> 00:49:16.130 think it really helped. Yeah, but the one about racing upside what consolers 735 00:49:16.170 --> 00:49:20.289 and training other sidewalk counselors. I think those three year or any pro life 736 00:49:20.329 --> 00:49:23.599 ministry, I think those three areas are all really really important to to keep 737 00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:28.400 in mind your philosophy, your practice and your purpose. Yeah, and how 738 00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:31.679 to stay fact, absolutely purpose. Absolutely the judge analogy really does help. 739 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:36.719 It does. I can't get focused on all you who were trying to reach 740 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:39.030 there. You know we're trying to say that innocent baby, but we're appealing 741 00:49:39.070 --> 00:49:43.429 to the judge. So hope these were blessing. You guys. Share a 742 00:49:43.469 --> 00:49:45.789 little bit of feedback with us if you want to shoot me an email. 743 00:49:45.789 --> 00:49:50.710 D Parks at cities for lifecom. Vicky is vcssi orget cities for lifecom. 744 00:49:50.789 --> 00:49:52.019 Check out our sidewalks for life side. I think we're going to put this 745 00:49:52.139 --> 00:49:54.619 out as an article. Think it's already and there you okay, yeah, 746 00:49:54.659 --> 00:49:59.139 on sidewalks for life. It's I'll walks in be forore lifecom. Share this 747 00:49:59.219 --> 00:50:07.250 podcast. Until next time, God bless. Give me out love for love. 748 00:50:09.969 --> 00:50:19.409 Give me our love for gratitude. I know it will cost me my 749 00:50:19.769 --> 00:50:27.159 love. Nothing's too precious in some you