Three Parables to Help You In Prolife Ministry, (#3 is funny but very helpful)

WEBVTT100:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.439But what happens with a big,steamy parliamoneure? Well, it attracts,200:00:03.879 --> 00:00:08.990sadly, flies and other tracks fliesof all kinds. Yeah, I am300:00:09.310 --> 00:00:14.869yours, I am yours, Iam yours, and welcome to the Gospel400:00:14.910 --> 00:00:18.989Center Pro Life Podcast, and thisepisode we're going to talk about three parables,500:00:19.190 --> 00:00:22.739some biblical and some maybe extra biblical, that will help you as a600:00:22.780 --> 00:00:27.179sidewall counselor or any other pro lifeministry you're involved in. So stay tuned.700:00:27.699 --> 00:00:37.009Send Me, Lord, I feltshow Passish, touch your heart.800:00:39.409 --> 00:00:48.729Use Me. Welcome to the GospelCenter pro life podcast. We appreciate you900:00:48.890 --> 00:00:54.359guys listening and we'd appreciate if youguys would share these podcasts. We hope1000:00:54.399 --> 00:00:59.479they're blessing to you. And we'regoing to cover a subject today that I1100:00:59.560 --> 00:01:04.909think will be particularly applicable to sidewallcounseling, but could be applicable to a1200:01:06.030 --> 00:01:10.310lot of other prolife ministries. However, think one of the things we've discovered1300:01:10.510 --> 00:01:14.590is that, since our wheelhouse issidewall counseling, it's why i's to focus1400:01:14.670 --> 00:01:19.579there. It's just what we knowand we try to broaden and generalize as1500:01:19.620 --> 00:01:23.260much as possible to help. Blessanybody who may be listening who works with1600:01:23.299 --> 00:01:26.859a pregnancy center or in any otherkind of pro life ministry or just in1700:01:26.900 --> 00:01:34.049general's and it's interested in pro lifetalk topics. But in our vein sidewalk1800:01:34.129 --> 00:01:38.489counseling, I think we think weprobably are better to stay in that vein.1900:01:38.530 --> 00:01:46.290But this topic, as it appliesher life ministry, is kind of2000:01:46.329 --> 00:01:53.200a biblical train of thought in thatwe're talking about parables that really help us2100:01:53.280 --> 00:01:56.959in Ministry, parables that give usgood pictures. In this what parables do,2200:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.359right, they give us a picture, yeah, kind of an everyday2300:02:00.510 --> 00:02:07.069picture of whatever we're involved in tohelp us, I guess, bring it2400:02:07.150 --> 00:02:09.189down to Earth. Sure, becauseJesus did that all the time. Eight2500:02:09.310 --> 00:02:14.750he taught lessons through stories. Yeah, he did, and so that's what2600:02:14.830 --> 00:02:16.219we're going to do. We're actuallygoing to try to just talk through a2700:02:16.259 --> 00:02:20.460couple of stories, a couple ofbiblical scenarios, maybe some scenarios that are2800:02:21.180 --> 00:02:23.900maybe extra biblical, not in abad way they use, but very us2900:02:24.020 --> 00:02:28.300paint to picture right. Yeah,the Lord actually helps me a lot of3000:02:28.379 --> 00:02:32.610times with giving me pictures and analogiesand things like that. That helped me3100:02:34.090 --> 00:02:36.569to say, Oh, yeah,that's how this works. And you know,3200:02:36.610 --> 00:02:39.569analogies of course break down at somepoint. Parables breakdown at some point,3300:02:40.009 --> 00:02:44.090but again, they are helpful inJesus, like you said, use3400:02:44.169 --> 00:02:51.919parables all throughout and and they can'thelp us to just come to terms with3500:02:52.080 --> 00:02:57.879certain realities and connect certain dots tobetter understand. Yeah, that's actually yeah.3600:02:58.400 --> 00:03:00.750So we're going to be just mentionedin three parables, and each of3700:03:00.789 --> 00:03:07.110these parables fits into a certain aspectof prolife ministry. Again, in particular3800:03:07.150 --> 00:03:09.710sidewalk counseling and what I was goingto deal with, the philosophy of sidewall3900:03:09.789 --> 00:03:15.099counseling, the practice of sidewalk counseling. And the third one deals with the4000:03:15.780 --> 00:03:22.020purpose and the primary goal. Yeah, of PSIDE. So three peas and4100:03:22.139 --> 00:03:24.939that great for you guys, orpiece, if you count primary for piece.4200:03:25.139 --> 00:03:28.090Right. Yeah, so like howwe like to stay with that.4300:03:28.210 --> 00:03:31.250We do like that. Literation isphilosophy practice, right, probably here you4400:03:31.289 --> 00:03:37.169go. Yeah, because what's interestingis how you came up with this idea,4500:03:37.330 --> 00:03:40.840Daniel. Was She said these threeparables were kind of running through your4600:03:40.919 --> 00:03:46.280head and you hadn't really quite tiedtogether, like why? But as we4700:03:46.360 --> 00:03:51.680were working through this, it becamevery apparent. One was talking about the4800:03:51.800 --> 00:03:55.870philosophy, the underpinning of why wedo what we do. Another was how4900:03:55.949 --> 00:04:00.310we do what we do or thepractice of of what we do, and5000:04:00.469 --> 00:04:05.270then the third one why we dowhat we do it. It was kind5100:04:05.270 --> 00:04:11.379of interesting. How how that thatreally gives you a whole picture of a5200:04:11.460 --> 00:04:15.180pro life ministry. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and of course I believe5300:04:15.819 --> 00:04:19.060throughout our podcasts we've probably touched onevery one of these stories, maybe not5400:04:19.139 --> 00:04:23.540the last story that we're going totalk about right, and the that analogy.5500:04:23.819 --> 00:04:26.209What's I want you guys to beready for, because it's going to5600:04:26.250 --> 00:04:29.529be really fun. Analogy. It'snot necessarily a BIBLICO analogy, but we5700:04:29.569 --> 00:04:32.250do have a biblical analogy. Wedo for our third third point here.5800:04:32.250 --> 00:04:39.800Yeah, but let's hop into philosophyof sidewalk counseling and the parable that,5900:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.920I think really in the beginning ofcities for life and the model of our6000:04:45.000 --> 00:04:49.959ministry is kind of fueled what wedo and shaped what we do and kind6100:04:49.959 --> 00:04:55.149of given us the framework for notjust that well counseling but just this ministry6200:04:55.189 --> 00:04:59.790in general. Yeah, and andbefore you get into that, I why6300:04:59.790 --> 00:05:02.990is philosophy so important? And Iremember when I started home schooling I was6400:05:03.189 --> 00:05:08.819completely at a loss. I didn'twant to. It was really I was6500:05:08.899 --> 00:05:14.139almost forced to, but a verywise mentor told me the first thing that6600:05:14.300 --> 00:05:16.860you need to do. I'm overwhelmedwith all the things to get set to6700:05:17.180 --> 00:05:20.930start homeschooling, something I had nevereven heard of before I started it.6800:05:21.410 --> 00:05:29.290She said the first thing you needto do is develop your philosophy of homeschooling.6900:05:29.490 --> 00:05:33.329Yeah, so philosophy kind of guideseverything else, everything that you do.7000:05:33.490 --> 00:05:36.000So it's a great place, Ithink, for us to start.7100:05:36.040 --> 00:05:41.160Yeah, you know, I thinkone of the things also is not only7200:05:41.199 --> 00:05:46.160that philosophy guides, but it alsosustains, and one of the reasons why7300:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.870I think a good philosophy of ministry, especially when you're involved in sidewalk counseling,7400:05:49.910 --> 00:05:54.870sidewalk out reach ministry, because itcan be such a and intense ministry.7500:05:54.910 --> 00:05:58.670Yeah, spiritual warfare. Interactions withpeople are not always pause of it7600:05:58.949 --> 00:06:02.870right, and so it's hard tolisten. We have people that come out7700:06:03.899 --> 00:06:09.019that you know, their whole wholephilosophy of ministry people that come out to7800:06:09.019 --> 00:06:12.620volunteer is they want to. Theywant to save these poornessent women that save7900:06:12.660 --> 00:06:14.819the world. I'm going to savethe world. I found my purpose in8000:06:14.899 --> 00:06:16.779life. Right. I want tosave these poor women from this terrible mistake8100:06:17.019 --> 00:06:20.329all abortion. Right. I wantto save these babies, which you know.8200:06:20.410 --> 00:06:23.649Both of those, you know,often what I say the enemy of8300:06:23.730 --> 00:06:28.250the best. It's always the good. Right. So it's good to save8400:06:28.370 --> 00:06:31.529women from the destructive nature of abortion, to save babies, of course,8500:06:31.569 --> 00:06:36.240right. We believe that that's good. But is that the best? Now?8600:06:36.360 --> 00:06:41.639Really the best is to bring Lordto God. Right, our focus8700:06:41.680 --> 00:06:45.759has to be on the Lord,and in this parable I think Jesus sets8800:06:45.879 --> 00:06:50.829things in their proper perspective, becauseI won't say a bad philosophy of ministry,8900:06:51.389 --> 00:06:55.389for Sidewalk Counseling is to love yourneighbor. It's not a bad that's9000:06:55.430 --> 00:06:59.470not a bad philosophy. That's actuallya good philosophy of ministry to love our9100:06:59.509 --> 00:07:03.740neighbor. But the best philosophy ofministry is to love God, and then9200:07:03.819 --> 00:07:06.699out of that flows a love foryour neighbor. You know, Jesus talks9300:07:06.740 --> 00:07:12.420about the two great commands and whatare they? What's Love The Lord,9400:07:12.500 --> 00:07:15.850your God with all your heart,mind, soul and strength. Right?9500:07:15.129 --> 00:07:18.649And then he says the second commandis like unto the first. That means9600:07:18.649 --> 00:07:23.490they're tied together, right, andwhich is love your neighbor as yourself.9700:07:24.170 --> 00:07:28.730And I'll say you can't actually properlylove your neighbor until you first love God.9800:07:29.449 --> 00:07:33.000If you love your neighbor first,your motivation is flipped on its head,9900:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.879it's upside down. The Cart isbefore the horse. Our love for10000:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.399our neighbor has to flow out of, first and foremost, our love for10100:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.879God, because if you love yourneighbor and that's the primary focus, you'll10200:07:43.920 --> 00:07:47.670end up either compromising the truth,compromising the Gospel, or you end up10300:07:47.709 --> 00:07:51.550going to some other radical extreme.You know. So you want to make10400:07:51.629 --> 00:07:56.310sure our love for God is first, and that's where our philosophy of ministry10500:07:56.750 --> 00:08:00.259really is important, again, notjust to get us out there and to10600:08:00.300 --> 00:08:03.420keep us, but to sustain us, because you can get burned out and10700:08:03.420 --> 00:08:05.339you know, if you have amentality, and you know it well,10800:08:07.139 --> 00:08:07.939when you you know you can comeout here, you're going to save these10900:08:07.939 --> 00:08:13.170poor innocent women from the terrible,the destructive nature of abortion and you find11000:08:13.170 --> 00:08:16.529out, well, not all thesewomen are poor innocent victims. They're actually11100:08:16.009 --> 00:08:20.089fairly vile and say say them thingsto you there show that they're not just11200:08:20.209 --> 00:08:24.930poor innocence to them don't want tobe saved, so that you get burned11300:08:24.970 --> 00:08:28.360really quick if that's your philosophy ofministry. So it's a love for God11400:08:28.519 --> 00:08:33.399first. So let's jump into theparable that we have first, as it11500:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.200pertains to a philosophy of ministry,and that is Luke chapter ten. We've11600:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.720shared this with you guys before,which is the heart of our ministry.11700:08:39.039 --> 00:08:43.269And Verse Twenty Five, and thisis Jesus sharing with a man's who said,11800:08:45.070 --> 00:08:48.230teacher, what shall I do toinherit eternal life? And that's when11900:08:48.230 --> 00:08:50.190he talks about the two great commands. Love the Lord, your God,12000:08:50.309 --> 00:08:54.629with all your heart, with allyour mind, and love your neighbor as12100:08:54.710 --> 00:08:58.940yourself. And then the man asked, who is my neighbor? And then12200:08:58.940 --> 00:09:03.700Jesus share this parable. And thisis in Luke Chapter Ten, starting in12300:09:03.740 --> 00:09:07.820Verse Twenty Five, he begins toshare the parable in verse thirty and says12400:09:07.860 --> 00:09:11.409a certain man went down from Jerusalemto Jericho and fell among thieves who stripped12500:09:11.409 --> 00:09:16.090him of his clothing, wounded himand departed, leaving him half dead.12600:09:16.210 --> 00:09:20.009So here's this man who is lefthalf dead, naked in the ditch and12700:09:20.090 --> 00:09:22.690then, of course the parable goeson. The levite sees this man,12800:09:22.809 --> 00:09:26.600passes by on the other side,the priest sees this man passes by on12900:09:26.679 --> 00:09:31.919the other side and then a Samaritancomes and the Samaritan sees the man,13000:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.480looks on him with compassion and thengoes into the ditch to get him out.13100:09:35.360 --> 00:09:39.549And that is again the philosophy ofour ministry is to go into the13200:09:39.669 --> 00:09:43.669ditch, right, but it hasto be motivated by love for God first,13300:09:43.870 --> 00:09:46.269because in line with this this parable, that's what Jesus talking about,13400:09:46.309 --> 00:09:50.389right. But we're not just goingand talking to the man in the ditch,13500:09:52.309 --> 00:09:54.500we're not just praying about the manof the ditch, right, we're13600:09:54.539 --> 00:10:00.019not just getting the community excited aboutdoing something about the man into the ditch13700:10:00.100 --> 00:10:01.820problems. Someone else to go takecare of that man. And I did13800:10:01.899 --> 00:10:07.690here. Am I send someone elsehere? I'm high. Send them here.13900:10:07.850 --> 00:10:09.409My send the politicians. I mean, if you think about a lot14000:10:09.490 --> 00:10:13.250of government deal with that man theditch. But let the government. We14100:10:13.330 --> 00:10:15.970need to Hey, we've got todo something about the man in the ditch.14200:10:15.970 --> 00:10:18.129Let's bring it before the city council. Right, not that any of14300:10:18.169 --> 00:10:22.320that is bad, but a Christianthat sees a person in the ditch is14400:10:22.399 --> 00:10:26.720not just going to vote about theman in the ditch problem, they're going14500:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.320to actually got into the ditch.And so that's what a sidewalk counselor does14600:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.080and that's what we've done as aministry's we go to the ditches in our14700:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.750society, which are the abortion clinics. Yes, and in this case,14800:10:37.830 --> 00:10:41.309of course, that baby is theone in the ditch and that mother is14900:10:41.389 --> 00:10:43.070the one in the ditch. Sowe want to go to them, we15000:10:43.190 --> 00:10:46.950want to with our voices, tryto get them out of the ditch with15100:10:46.070 --> 00:10:50.620the resources and things put them onour animal. That's the picture, right,15200:10:50.659 --> 00:10:52.580Yep. And so he what doeshe do? He goes to the15300:10:52.659 --> 00:10:54.539man in the ditch, he getshim out of the ditch, cleans off15400:10:54.659 --> 00:10:58.539his wounds, and so that's that'sthe picture of US sharing the Gospel.15500:10:58.580 --> 00:11:03.139What's the wound? What covers thisperson in sores and and and despair?15600:11:03.690 --> 00:11:07.250It's sin. There's right and yeah, so we should the Gospel. Yeah,15700:11:07.490 --> 00:11:11.769and then we put them on ouranimal and sometimes that literally means put15800:11:11.889 --> 00:11:15.289them in our vehicle, driving themto a pregnancy center, driving them to15900:11:15.330 --> 00:11:18.679a maternity home, which is theend, right. It's the picture.16000:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.039Yeah, take them to an end, provide for their knees until they get16100:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.639on their feet, and that's kindof the philosophy of ministry. Right pertains16200:11:26.720 --> 00:11:30.080to s right counsel. Yeah,yeah, and that, and that,16300:11:30.360 --> 00:11:35.669in the end, is the innkeeperspaid for the ongoing care through, through16400:11:35.750 --> 00:11:39.149the good Smaritan, for the ongoingcare, and that's very analogous to as16500:11:39.230 --> 00:11:45.590we pass these moms off to mentorshipprograms through you, through our sister ministry16600:11:45.669 --> 00:11:48.539love life, Charlotte, so thatthe ongoing needs will be addressed. It's16700:11:48.620 --> 00:11:52.100not just that we're going to buyput a bandage on the wound, which16800:11:52.220 --> 00:11:56.100is better than what some people do, but that's not enough. That's not16900:11:56.299 --> 00:12:01.490God says that's not enough. Youput the bandage on, you carried them17000:12:01.529 --> 00:12:05.129to a place of healing and thenyou provide the other ongoing yeah, one17100:12:05.169 --> 00:12:09.529of the things that I'll say isthat you can't properly love your neighbor like17200:12:09.610 --> 00:12:13.250you're supposed to unless you love Godfirst. Right, but you're not truly17300:12:13.289 --> 00:12:16.639loving God if you're not loving yourneighbor. It's like those two are todd17400:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.039very closely together, because you youcan say you love God all day long17500:12:20.279 --> 00:12:24.600and leave your neighbor in the ditch. Look at the priest in the Levi.17600:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.200What do they do? Well,they're the religious people, but they17700:12:28.240 --> 00:12:30.350don't care about the man of theditch. Matter of fact, they pass17800:12:30.429 --> 00:12:33.029by on the other side of theroad. Did they truly love God?17900:12:33.389 --> 00:12:35.429Right, yeah, Morsel, thatwas it was evidenced in the fact that18000:12:35.509 --> 00:12:39.590they walk abound the other side ofthe road that they didn't truly love God.18100:12:39.669 --> 00:12:43.389Yes, I always found it curiousthat the the man, the the18200:12:43.509 --> 00:12:48.340rich man who is talking to Jesus, asking him or talk, talking with18300:12:48.419 --> 00:12:52.340him, and he has loved God, apparently, he says, but that18400:12:52.500 --> 00:12:56.059he asks who is my neighbor?I always thought that that was an interesting18500:12:56.139 --> 00:13:00.490question. Who is my neighbor?I wondered. Was He trying to like,18600:13:01.049 --> 00:13:05.769limit who he would go and Save, or was he truly wondering?18700:13:05.850 --> 00:13:09.610Did he really have no clue,like what parameters God would put on who,18800:13:11.250 --> 00:13:13.399you know, was his neighbor ornot his neighbor? Yeah, I18900:13:13.519 --> 00:13:18.320mean the Bible doesn't tell us whyhe asked that question and so we can19000:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.679speculate on why. But Jesus certainlydid so. If there were some parameters19100:13:22.720 --> 00:13:26.750that this man had put on whowas his neighbor, j'sus certainly tore all19200:13:26.909 --> 00:13:31.549that down by introducing a Samaritan intothe picture. That's right, and affected19300:13:31.710 --> 00:13:35.269in the enemy, yeah, ofJewish society at that time. Yeah,19400:13:35.549 --> 00:13:39.309it's. And then he he sortof in a sense, well, and19500:13:39.870 --> 00:13:43.259not just in the sense, justoutright pits this Samaritan, who's just an19600:13:43.299 --> 00:13:50.980everyday nobody kind of guy and againdejected by Jewish people, against the priests19700:13:50.059 --> 00:13:54.100and the Levites, who were supposedto be like the Pinnacle of human existence19800:13:54.220 --> 00:13:58.570in the Jewish mindset. And hepits them against each other and said,19900:13:58.610 --> 00:14:01.210okay, this is the guy thatpleased God. These guys did right,20000:14:01.409 --> 00:14:05.289right, and the neighbor was thatkind of the ditch, someone in,20100:14:05.929 --> 00:14:11.000you know, a very compromise,vulnerable position. So your neighbor is not20200:14:11.159 --> 00:14:15.440necessarily someone that you know you're goingto go bring them a pizza. UN20300:14:15.480 --> 00:14:18.919He'll, he'll bring you a pizzathe next day it's someone that there's no20400:14:18.440 --> 00:14:24.309anticipation of any kind of reward fromthat person in the ditch, say and,20500:14:24.509 --> 00:14:30.429and I think that paints a veryperfect and analogous picture to the unborn20600:14:30.470 --> 00:14:33.990babies and these women, who areoften in pretty desperate, yeah, situations.20700:14:33.070 --> 00:14:35.669Yeah, I agree. Yeah.Well, this next one, I20800:14:35.909 --> 00:14:41.419think could be, believe, thephilosophy one. That's really important. Yeah,20900:14:41.500 --> 00:14:43.659understand that we're supposed to love Godfirst. Forget that. This is21000:14:43.700 --> 00:14:46.980not just about love for the manin the ditch. is about love for21100:14:46.019 --> 00:14:48.580God and because of that we meetthe needs of the man and that that's21200:14:48.580 --> 00:14:52.820right. Mom and the baby aredemonstrating our love for God. Dies actually21300:14:52.860 --> 00:14:54.769treat our NA. The second oneis really practical. Yes, this is21400:14:54.809 --> 00:14:58.570a picture that the Lord kind ofspoke to my heart and many p people21500:14:58.570 --> 00:15:01.690use this. This scripture, proverbsthirty one, verses eight nine, as21600:15:01.730 --> 00:15:07.009it pertains to Sidewall councling ministry.But I think there's some particulars in this21700:15:07.049 --> 00:15:11.799scripture that really help us and thisanalogy. As you know, I'm really21800:15:11.919 --> 00:15:16.840kind of maybe stretching the analogy,and so you guys call me out if21900:15:16.879 --> 00:15:18.399you think I'm taking it too far, but I think it really fits in22000:15:18.559 --> 00:15:24.629so many ways with sidewalk counseling,with abortion minded women, with the abortion22100:15:24.710 --> 00:15:28.950industry, and so let's hop intoit. It's proverbs thirty one, eight22200:15:28.070 --> 00:15:31.549and nine. You guys have heardme quote this a thousand times and you'll22300:15:31.590 --> 00:15:35.659hear two thousand more. But it'sopen your mouth for the speechless, in22400:15:35.820 --> 00:15:39.940the calls or the case of allwho are appointed to die, open your22500:15:39.980 --> 00:15:45.779mouth, judge righteously and plead thecause of the poor and needy. Yeah,22600:15:45.940 --> 00:15:48.179so one of the things that sticksout immediately to me, and probably22700:15:48.299 --> 00:15:52.769would stick out to most American Christians, is the word judge. We're told22800:15:52.809 --> 00:15:56.730not to judge. That's matter offact. That's one of the worst things22900:15:58.009 --> 00:16:00.330that you can be accused of judgingpeople right, not by the Bible but23000:16:00.570 --> 00:16:03.519by by others. Yeah, butyou're too modern, you're not a Christian,23100:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.279because you're told Thou shall not judge. Right, Corsi's valid. I've23200:16:07.320 --> 00:16:11.279even heard it in perfect King JamesEnglish. Ok, vout, shalt not23300:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.440judgeth right. Yeah, it's oneof the ten commandments of her that one's23400:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.389well, yeah, really is it? I haven't read that. Yeah,23500:16:18.990 --> 00:16:23.950but this analogy in this this scripturetells us to open our mouth, and23600:16:25.029 --> 00:16:27.350that's what we do in sidewalk counseling. We've open our mouth. We literally23700:16:27.470 --> 00:16:30.909speak for those that can't speak forthemselves. Right. But notice, as23800:16:30.909 --> 00:16:33.580I was reading through this, itsays open your mouth for the speechless in23900:16:33.620 --> 00:16:37.100the calls. And jumped in thereand said the case, because that word24000:16:37.299 --> 00:16:42.659cause can also mean case. Andthe analogy really here is there is a24100:16:42.899 --> 00:16:48.250person who's innocent, who is scheduledto die, who's before a judge that's24200:16:48.289 --> 00:16:52.049Harshan to die. Yeah, beforea judge, before a judge, and24300:16:52.289 --> 00:16:56.490that judge is going to condemn thatperson to die, right, and there's24400:16:56.490 --> 00:17:00.169someone pleading, yeah, the case. Yeah, you know, we use24500:17:00.250 --> 00:17:06.160the term sidewalk counselors and we're talkingabout we did a podcast about that a24600:17:06.240 --> 00:17:07.680long time ago. What is styblecounseling? You guys listen to that?24700:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.880Yeah, but the word counselor,and I think I mentioned this in that24800:17:11.000 --> 00:17:15.559podcast, is not just us sitdown and counsel with somebody. We're doing24900:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.109that, yes, but also hasto do with like legal counsel. Yeah,25000:17:18.150 --> 00:17:21.589you know, when you watch shows, if you've watched, you know,25100:17:21.710 --> 00:17:25.349lawyer shows, in these law andorder shows, you know they say25200:17:25.630 --> 00:17:27.509counsel. What do you get tosay about this? That's how the attorney25300:17:27.589 --> 00:17:32.420is referred to as counsel, right, because they're not just counseling there,25400:17:32.539 --> 00:17:36.819they're they're defendant. There, they'reactually, on behalf of that defendant,25500:17:37.380 --> 00:17:41.660giving counsel to the judge and actuallypleading with the judge. Yeah, they're25600:17:41.700 --> 00:17:45.809being an advocate, they are advocatingfor the life of their client. Yeah,25700:17:47.049 --> 00:17:49.890absolutely. So how does that fitin with sidewalk counseling? And what's25800:17:49.970 --> 00:17:55.130the what's the analogy? Well,here's the analogy. That baby is the25900:17:55.250 --> 00:17:59.359innocent person that scheduled to die.That's a pointed. According to this point,26000:17:59.400 --> 00:18:03.200it's right to Anna cannot speak,that that I'm born child cannot speak.26100:18:03.680 --> 00:18:07.759And who is the judge in thisanalogy? Let's look. This is26200:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.039an interesting part, because you guysmight be tempted to think right aways you're26300:18:11.039 --> 00:18:12.230thinking about a judge. Okay,WHO's the judge? God, at my26400:18:12.349 --> 00:18:15.430first thing. So it's got,but it's not. It's more even,26500:18:15.670 --> 00:18:19.309okay, the abortionist. That's thejudge. Yeah, I even think that26600:18:19.549 --> 00:18:22.710that would be the case. Sowho are we pleading our case to,26700:18:22.950 --> 00:18:29.339to tip the balance, to bringjustice? Who are? Yeah, and26800:18:29.420 --> 00:18:32.779so the picture is here, guys, that we're appealing to someone right,26900:18:33.019 --> 00:18:36.099as the judge, as the onewho can slam down the galvel and say27000:18:36.180 --> 00:18:38.420innocent or guilty, right, theone that can can give a sentence,27100:18:38.460 --> 00:18:41.250as the car you're set for you, right, exactly. Yeah, and27200:18:41.369 --> 00:18:45.529that person in this analogy, whenyou're dealing with a woman going into the27300:18:45.569 --> 00:18:48.329abortion clinic, is the woman that'sright, she is the judge. Yeah,27400:18:48.410 --> 00:18:52.170she is the judge in the jury. She's the one that gets the27500:18:52.250 --> 00:18:56.400determined. Unfortunately, the way thatthe laws are set up in this country27600:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.680is that she can choose to killher child through abortion. She can do27700:18:59.839 --> 00:19:03.079that and not it's not right beforeGod, but in the situation that we're27800:19:03.079 --> 00:19:07.799given in front of an abortion clinic, she can walk on in those doors,27900:19:07.079 --> 00:19:10.509and so we've got to do it. So we've got to appeal to28000:19:10.630 --> 00:19:12.269her, yeah, just like weappeal to a judge. Now I want28100:19:12.269 --> 00:19:15.950you, guys, to listen realclosely to this, because this is really28200:19:15.990 --> 00:19:19.349important, because there's there's a mentalityof people that go out to abortion clinics28300:19:19.390 --> 00:19:22.390that think I just show up andI just say whatever comes out of my28400:19:22.509 --> 00:19:26.859mouth, and that's great and listen, understand that and I appreciate those,28500:19:26.980 --> 00:19:30.380those first steps of faith and steppingout. Yeah, but if you're thinking28600:19:30.420 --> 00:19:33.859about it, I believe in thesebiblical terms, and if that mother really28700:19:33.019 --> 00:19:37.660is the judge, are you justgoing to show up in a court room28800:19:37.940 --> 00:19:41.529and there's a judge who you hate? Might be a selfish judge, he28900:19:41.609 --> 00:19:45.569might be a left leaning liberal judge. But if you're before that judge and29000:19:45.650 --> 00:19:48.849you're supposed to be an attorney andyou know there's a person that scheduled to29100:19:48.970 --> 00:19:51.690die, that judge can slam downthe gavel and say guilty, are you29200:19:51.769 --> 00:19:55.599going to speak aggressively to that judge? You're going to speak in a way29300:19:55.640 --> 00:20:00.640that will hopefully again make your caseand make that judge want to listen to29400:20:00.680 --> 00:20:03.279your case. So of course you'renot going to speak in a way that's29500:20:03.279 --> 00:20:07.309going to turn that judge off.But the other word that really grabs me29600:20:07.509 --> 00:20:14.390here is how is that person supposedto judge righteously? Yeah, and so29700:20:14.589 --> 00:20:19.109as you are pleading that case,you need to be your please, your29800:20:19.230 --> 00:20:26.619advocacy needs to point that Judge torighteousness. Yeah, and where do we29900:20:26.740 --> 00:20:30.380find that? In the word ofGod and the word of God and God's30000:20:30.380 --> 00:20:33.059Word and God's truth. If youthink about it, though, this analogy30100:20:33.140 --> 00:20:37.690goes as far as even if you'rea lawyer and you're advocating on behalf of30200:20:37.769 --> 00:20:41.529that child to that judge, whatare some what's some of the things that30300:20:41.970 --> 00:20:47.490lawyers use in order to prove thattheir client is not guilty and doesn't deserve30400:20:47.569 --> 00:20:49.279the death penalty? Yeah, well, they use facts, for sure,30500:20:49.440 --> 00:20:55.680and they use facts that that willshow that that client is in innocent and30600:20:55.799 --> 00:20:59.200that that client, like deserve todayevidence, you know, I have have30700:20:59.400 --> 00:21:03.200evidence be a you know, thinknumber of the different pieces of evidence that30800:21:03.279 --> 00:21:07.549they have and you know, Ithink those kind of tie into the three30900:21:07.630 --> 00:21:11.069talking points that we use in ourside wall accouncil training, which are what31000:21:11.230 --> 00:21:12.710God says about this, what Godsays about the baby, the mom,31100:21:12.910 --> 00:21:17.509abortion, all of that, andthen the humanity of the baby and the31200:21:17.589 --> 00:21:21.380resources that are available. So you'relike to the judge you're trying to appeal31300:21:21.420 --> 00:21:23.299and say, well, God saysthis child is valuable, God says your31400:21:23.339 --> 00:21:26.460circumstances not too hard you know,if you're appealing to the mother. Yeah,31500:21:26.500 --> 00:21:30.299so what God says about it isis a piece of evidence that's try31600:21:30.500 --> 00:21:33.130the humanity of the baby, becausethe judge, the mother in this scenario,31700:21:33.609 --> 00:21:37.089doesn't actually believe the baby is ahuman being in some level. Right,31800:21:37.170 --> 00:21:41.730she's been convinced, she's believed somelies, and so we're going to31900:21:41.769 --> 00:21:45.809combat those lies with evidence and we'regoing to say your baby is precious,32000:21:45.089 --> 00:21:49.079judge, this baby doesn't deserve this, this innocent person doesn't deserve to die.32100:21:49.160 --> 00:21:52.640First of all, I've got toestablish that it's a person, right,32200:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.039yeah, and so who's that isevidence? Has a heart that's already32300:21:56.079 --> 00:22:00.319beating, maybe has brainways six weeks, all the human DNA they'll ever have32400:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.589at the moment of conception, andthen, of course, the resources.32500:22:03.630 --> 00:22:07.910Here's all this evidence of why thischild doesn't have to die, why this32600:22:07.990 --> 00:22:11.349innocent person doesn't have to die.Know, you think the situation is such,32700:22:11.990 --> 00:22:15.509and we're appealing again to the mother, who is the judge in the32800:22:15.589 --> 00:22:18.059situation. You think it's such thatthis baby has got to die, this32900:22:18.180 --> 00:22:22.220person is just got to die,because look at all these circumstances. But33000:22:22.420 --> 00:22:26.220look at the rest sources. Lookat these is evidence of the resources that33100:22:26.380 --> 00:22:30.049show you that your circumstance is notimpossible. That's right, and so so33200:22:30.410 --> 00:22:34.130a good lawyer is always rational andlogical, but I think all and I33300:22:34.250 --> 00:22:37.410think that speaks to what you havejust described. But I will say a33400:22:37.569 --> 00:22:44.049good lawyer also does appeal to theemotions in that heap, he or she33500:22:44.319 --> 00:22:52.200presents a case that sways you sothat you sense rightness and wrongness. It's33600:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.799good and he's little, and andso there are some things that we say33700:22:55.880 --> 00:23:00.309that are true facts, because wewould never lie, but that also do33800:23:00.509 --> 00:23:06.829appeal to the natural maternal instincts ofa mother. For example, one that33900:23:06.990 --> 00:23:12.339really at least moves me is yourbaby has vocal courts developed by twelve weeks34000:23:12.380 --> 00:23:17.259and that baby can cry in thewomb. And I say that not only34100:23:17.339 --> 00:23:22.059as a fact and evidence, butalso there's an emotional picture that's painted when34200:23:22.099 --> 00:23:25.940you say a baby can cry inthe womb, and when you picture that,34300:23:26.619 --> 00:23:32.009I think anyone with a shred ofmaternal instinct is going to be moved34400:23:32.089 --> 00:23:34.009by that sort of a statement.So I do think that's that's an important34500:23:34.009 --> 00:23:38.730part of good sidewalk advocacy. Yeah, yeah, one of the things that34600:23:38.809 --> 00:23:41.640I'll say. You know, it'strue that at the moment of conception,34700:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.079this is like medical fact, right, so we use medical science, right,34800:23:45.559 --> 00:23:48.599that that may be at the momentof conception is a unique human being.34900:23:49.119 --> 00:23:53.400So I'll say that, but alsowill appeal to the emotions by playing35000:23:53.480 --> 00:23:57.910on that fact and say there hasnever been, nor will there ever be,35100:23:59.230 --> 00:24:02.509another person like that baby you carryin your womb. Right, that's35200:24:02.549 --> 00:24:06.869a that's a true statement, butI'm using terminology and words that will appeal35300:24:07.470 --> 00:24:11.220to her her emotions. Right,an emotional appeal, and to imagine that35400:24:11.380 --> 00:24:17.660emotional appeals are invalid because they're notbased in science or the word of God35500:24:18.539 --> 00:24:25.009is is ridiculous. We give emotionalappeals all the time and emotional appeals should35600:24:25.009 --> 00:24:29.089be given. I mean it's sortof like it's part of our humanity,35700:24:29.650 --> 00:24:33.809is that we have these emotions.God appeals to his people, and you35800:24:33.930 --> 00:24:37.930look through the prophets, how Godemotionally appeals to the children of Israel turned35900:24:37.970 --> 00:24:41.519back to him. He pours out. Look what I've done? I stretch36000:24:41.559 --> 00:24:45.319out my hands all day long toa wicked and obstinate people. Yeah,36100:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.519and you get this this picture ofGod being so weary with always reaching out36200:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.869and we're not returning and we're notcoming to him, or he gathers them36300:24:52.910 --> 00:24:55.349as a hen. Yeah, gather'sher chicks under the way. So,36400:24:55.509 --> 00:24:59.230of course, if all of ouradvocacy, if all of our as an36500:24:59.269 --> 00:25:02.549attorney on behalf of that baby isjust wrapped up in emotions, well,36600:25:02.789 --> 00:25:04.630we're going to miss the mark.They're right, right. Their emotions,36700:25:04.750 --> 00:25:07.619though, on the other hand,they're definite, definitely, I definitely agree36800:25:07.619 --> 00:25:11.740with you that that is only avery small portion of what we do.36900:25:11.140 --> 00:25:18.700But their emotions have already been workedupon in a way that against the case37000:25:18.059 --> 00:25:22.569for the baby. Yeah, absolutely, by the abortion industry. Oh,37100:25:22.650 --> 00:25:26.089you'll be so much better off withwithout this child, all those dreams and37200:25:26.210 --> 00:25:29.650goals that you have. And yes, you really are too poor and unable37300:25:30.009 --> 00:25:33.730and and just think how much betterlife will be without this child. So37400:25:33.970 --> 00:25:37.599we want to work on emotions righteouslyand with facts, but emotions that are37500:25:37.640 --> 00:25:42.599going to again sway them to trulyregard their child the way that God,37600:25:42.960 --> 00:25:47.920which desired they regard there absolutely oughtme all of this and of course,37700:25:48.440 --> 00:25:49.910if you guys are listened, listento us for any amount of time.37800:25:49.950 --> 00:25:53.390You know, this is the GospelCenter, Prayer Life podcast. We don't37900:25:53.430 --> 00:25:57.950just make make emotional appeals. We'reappealing from the word of God. That's38000:25:57.990 --> 00:26:02.549right, and we ought to have. The word of God is what changes38100:26:02.589 --> 00:26:04.900a heart, not just emotions orwhatever, but God in his word does38200:26:04.980 --> 00:26:10.420make emotional appeals. Jesus makes emotionalappeals and and we see this all through38300:26:10.500 --> 00:26:15.660the scripture and again as counselors onbehalf of that baby, as attorneys on38400:26:15.700 --> 00:26:18.210behalf of that baby, we're we'reappealing to the mother and she have to38500:26:18.289 --> 00:26:22.210think about this, because there arefolks that come out to an abortion center38600:26:22.289 --> 00:26:26.450like I've mentioned, who just setup and they just preach and they,38700:26:26.890 --> 00:26:30.809you know, bring a message ofrepent and I get it. I understand38800:26:30.849 --> 00:26:34.079that and I'm not against a messageof repentance. We're going that's the goal.38900:26:34.559 --> 00:26:38.240We're aiming for repentance. Want tothem to see their sin so that39000:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.640they'll repent. But that's that's thekey. We want them to see their39100:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.359sin. If all you do issay repent and you've not laid out the39200:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.789case for why abortion is sin,yeah, then they don't really know what39300:26:49.910 --> 00:26:53.430they are repenting of. Yeah,yeah, they don't really understand what you're39400:26:53.470 --> 00:26:57.950saying. Yeah, yeah, becauseI've had people here in Charlotte stand in39500:26:59.029 --> 00:27:03.299front of the abortion clinic on thesidewalk and literally just yell repent, repent.39600:27:03.380 --> 00:27:07.339Okay, that you have to firstof all explain what you're talking about39700:27:07.339 --> 00:27:11.460when you're saying repent, right,because it is a word commonly used in39800:27:12.380 --> 00:27:15.089church circles, and it should be. It's a biblical word. Yeah,39900:27:15.410 --> 00:27:21.210but there's also a corresponding explanation withthe word repent. It means to turn40000:27:21.210 --> 00:27:26.289away from what you're doing to somethingelse, and so I think we need40100:27:26.329 --> 00:27:30.599to be very explanator. We're talkingabout repenting when you're walking into an abortion40200:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.400clinic. What is it to repent? What's to stop in your tracks,40300:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.720to turn around and go the otherway? And repentance can mean coming over40400:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.000and talking to US sidewalk counselor andof course it does mean leaving the abortion40500:27:41.079 --> 00:27:45.470clinic. Right, right. Soagain we're appealing to that mother. She40600:27:45.789 --> 00:27:48.589is the judge, like it orlump it, in this situation. She40700:27:48.829 --> 00:27:53.309is the one that could slam downthat galvel and say this shold is guilty40800:27:53.670 --> 00:27:56.430condemned to death. Yeah, andyou know what? We can call in40900:27:56.630 --> 00:28:00.740other witnesses. Now, that isyeah, necessarily in analogy goes along,41000:28:00.779 --> 00:28:03.420Wi me tell you. But I'mthinking as you're talking that yes, she41100:28:03.500 --> 00:28:07.500is the judge, but there arepeople do influence the judge in a real41200:28:07.539 --> 00:28:12.569court room and in the courtroom ofthe abortion center, there are other witnesses41300:28:12.650 --> 00:28:17.049that you can call in. Andand I'm not talking about just other sidewalk41400:28:17.089 --> 00:28:21.289counselors, but the other people thatcan influence that woman and and and it's41500:28:21.569 --> 00:28:25.210largely the father of the baby,if the father the baby's on your side,41600:28:25.809 --> 00:28:30.160friends, drivers, the mother,the abortion minded mom, whatever,41700:28:30.279 --> 00:28:34.359there are other people who could becalled in. Their testimony could be called41800:28:34.400 --> 00:28:40.680upon to also sway that judge.Yeah, mother absolutely in which which way41900:28:40.759 --> 00:28:41.829she's going to get. And ifyou think about it, we've seen this42000:28:41.950 --> 00:28:45.670play out a lot many times.Young man standing out there shooting the breeze,42100:28:45.710 --> 00:28:48.230waiting for their girlfriend to have theabortion and come back out. And42200:28:48.269 --> 00:28:52.750I'll try to appeal to him,if I can win him over and convince42300:28:52.829 --> 00:28:56.619him it, lay out a caseto him and win him over to become42400:28:56.660 --> 00:29:00.500a witness on behalf of that baby. See how this analogies. It's so42500:29:00.660 --> 00:29:04.019good. And if I can gethim to be a witness on behalf of42600:29:04.099 --> 00:29:08.579that baby, my words could justfall to the ground, but his words42700:29:08.859 --> 00:29:12.970will have far more weight than mine. Yeah, and he can convince the42800:29:14.130 --> 00:29:17.849judge. Right, hey, judge, and I mean let's think about it.42900:29:18.009 --> 00:29:22.410What if, for example, thisis the judge's sister, if you43000:29:22.490 --> 00:29:25.559could have a listen, if youwere going to go before a judge as43100:29:25.880 --> 00:29:30.039a lawyer and plead the case foran innocent person, what if you were43200:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.160good friends with a judge's sister?You think maybe you can put in a43300:29:33.240 --> 00:29:34.599good word, you know, youthink maybe you can do some kind of43400:29:34.640 --> 00:29:37.519behind the scenes talking, you know, and maybe talking a little bit of43500:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.430underhand and stuff here, but whichwe would do, but wouldn't do.43600:29:41.589 --> 00:29:45.470But in the scenario when we've gotan abortion on abortion engaged woman inside the43700:29:45.470 --> 00:29:48.750abortion in those in her sisters outin the parking lot waiting for her,43800:29:48.910 --> 00:29:52.299if I can convince her, Hey, go in there and influence of going43900:29:52.339 --> 00:29:56.019there and influence this mother. Yeah, and talk to her, tell her44000:29:56.140 --> 00:30:00.059that will help her, tell herthat her baby is precious. I mean44100:30:00.140 --> 00:30:03.980we have literally seen this play out, absolutely and we've seen lives safe because44200:30:03.460 --> 00:30:07.809we're taking the time to try toinfluence witnesses on behalf of that baby.44300:30:07.809 --> 00:30:11.049Yeah, I got another good one. This is so good, so so44400:30:11.410 --> 00:30:18.930all judges are impressed by the attorneys, the advocates, who can say you44500:30:18.009 --> 00:30:23.119must make this decision because of someprecedent. Yeah, right, absolutely so.44600:30:23.200 --> 00:30:27.359As I'm thinking about our abortion mindedmom so often we see them walk44700:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.759in with another child. There's achild in the car, there's and so44800:30:30.920 --> 00:30:37.269the precedent is you gave life,you brought to term that other baby that's44900:30:37.309 --> 00:30:41.670in the back seat of your car. Does that baby have value? Do45000:30:41.789 --> 00:30:45.990you love that baby? Is thatbaby precious? was that baby precious from45100:30:45.990 --> 00:30:48.509the moment of conception? All ofwhich she'd have to answer yes, logically.45200:30:48.549 --> 00:30:53.220Well, the precedent has been set. Yeah, you know the value45300:30:53.940 --> 00:30:57.140of your children. Yeah, andthat baby in the womb. And even45400:30:57.180 --> 00:31:02.259the precedent of the faithfulness of God. That's how I will mention that.45500:31:02.819 --> 00:31:07.049Wasn't called faithful whenever you are pregnantwith this child and he carried you through45600:31:07.170 --> 00:31:11.410and you're here today in that childof blessing. Yeah, even sharing testimonies45700:31:11.849 --> 00:31:15.730again, testimony, yeah, ofpeople who we've encountered that have chosen life45800:31:15.730 --> 00:31:21.200in similar situations to that mother.Will help, right, it'll help sway45900:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.119the judge. So, anyway,guess I hope this is a helpful analogy.46000:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.799Yeah, because again we're trying topersuade the judge, who is the46100:31:26.880 --> 00:31:32.279mother in this situation, that herbaby is innocent and doesn't deserve to die.46200:31:32.869 --> 00:31:34.309Also, you don't want you tothink about how you would talk to46300:31:34.390 --> 00:31:38.950a judge because again, I seesome some aggressiveness in front of abortion clinics46400:31:38.950 --> 00:31:45.109where people are really aggressive and ourname calling, Our Name calling or whatever46500:31:45.150 --> 00:31:48.019right they're doing. Yeah, thinkabout, though, you're standing in front46600:31:48.019 --> 00:31:52.339of a judge and again, thisjudge might be a total like, you46700:31:52.460 --> 00:31:57.220know, in our world view,left leaning total just has has no point46800:31:57.259 --> 00:32:01.529of contact with you at all asfar as anything politically or whatever. Yeah,46900:32:02.089 --> 00:32:06.769and you know, in any otherscenario you would just be in a47000:32:06.890 --> 00:32:10.130very confrontational conversation with this person callingout all their wrongs. But if you're47100:32:10.130 --> 00:32:15.170standing before them and they're the judgeand there's an innocent person that's that can47200:32:15.250 --> 00:32:17.400potentially die, you're going to speaka little softer. Well, in an47300:32:17.440 --> 00:32:21.319actual court room, you rise,you call them your honor and you treat47400:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.799them with absolute respect, and Ithink that is again biblical. I think47500:32:24.839 --> 00:32:30.069we are called to treat each otherwith respect. That's parts being a good47600:32:30.190 --> 00:32:36.309neighbor and and honoring God. Andhow more important went in this analogy.47700:32:36.589 --> 00:32:40.630If the person you're trying to influence, if you're disrespectful to them, that47800:32:40.990 --> 00:32:45.700they have no reason to trust youor to listen to you in their mind.47900:32:45.900 --> 00:32:49.859Yeah, and I've even seen,let's just take again this analogy.48000:32:49.900 --> 00:32:52.259You're standing in a court room,you're an attorney on behalf of a person48100:32:52.339 --> 00:32:55.700that you know is innocent and you'reappealing to the judge and you begin to48200:32:55.740 --> 00:33:00.329get aggressive and you began to getlike condemning toward the judge and that judge48300:33:00.369 --> 00:33:02.890speeds up the trial and says,you know what, Hey, guilty.48400:33:04.089 --> 00:33:07.809That's exactly right, and that happensa lot. I've seen it in front48500:33:07.809 --> 00:33:10.410of the abortion clinic here in Charlotte, other abortion clinics, where you have48600:33:10.490 --> 00:33:15.400a mom that's walking in slowly,she's walking from her car to the door,48700:33:15.920 --> 00:33:20.039and you've got someone who's calling outof that person in an aggressive way.48800:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.559That's just overthe top. Don't goin there and murder your child.48900:33:22.599 --> 00:33:27.430You're a murderer if you have anabortion. and that woman speeds up said49000:33:27.509 --> 00:33:30.309she laps the gambled down even quicker. She's not considering it's almost like you've49100:33:30.349 --> 00:33:35.750pushed the judge to go ahead andmake a decision, whereas she would actually49200:33:35.789 --> 00:33:38.750consider your evidence if you would justbe patient, slow down a little bit,49300:33:39.150 --> 00:33:44.500speak a little soft, little moresoftly. Appeal to them. And49400:33:44.900 --> 00:33:49.140again it's ultimately it's the Lord that'sgoing to change the heart. But we49500:33:49.380 --> 00:33:52.539have to be working alongside what theLord is doing. Right in the Lord49600:33:52.660 --> 00:33:58.009is gracious and compassionate, he's slowto anger and rich and loving kindness.49700:33:58.289 --> 00:34:00.970Doesn't mean he doesn't get angry,he certainly does. But the anger of49800:34:01.130 --> 00:34:05.369Man Does Not work the righteousness ofGod. The Bible says, and you49900:34:05.490 --> 00:34:08.409know, I'll tell folks, listen, if there's any plays where it's justifiable50000:34:08.530 --> 00:34:14.760to get angry and to just loseyour mind, it's a it's in front50100:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.760of the abortion clinic. I getit, I understand that, but it's50200:34:16.920 --> 00:34:21.760not helpful because you're going to you'renot going to persuade that judge. Matter50300:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.789of fact, you might push thatjudge to make a premature decision. That's50400:34:24.829 --> 00:34:30.150right. And and the executioner isthe abortionist. Yeah, and and the50500:34:30.389 --> 00:34:34.750and that's it's life for death.It's very important. It's very important what's50600:34:34.789 --> 00:34:38.340happening at there. Yeah. Sothat analogy is very helpful in so many50700:34:38.380 --> 00:34:42.940ways and there's so many other aspectsthat we could bring into play here,50800:34:43.860 --> 00:34:45.619but I hope it helped you.Guys. We's pop into our next one.50900:34:45.900 --> 00:34:51.579Yeah, Pres Primary Goal, yeah, purpose, the purpose and primary51000:34:51.659 --> 00:34:55.090goal, and primary goal is soimportant because in in any pro life ministry,51100:34:55.210 --> 00:34:59.730no matter what kind of pro lifeministry you're in, there are all51200:34:59.769 --> 00:35:07.010kinds of competing things that take yourattention sometimes the way from that primary purpose51300:35:07.130 --> 00:35:10.000and to the point where it candestroy a ministry if it becomes so fragmented,51400:35:10.199 --> 00:35:15.599so distracted, and I think maybeno place more so than at that51500:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.039place of life and death, right. Yeah, yeah, and this is51600:35:19.320 --> 00:35:23.670at the abortion center, literally thelast moments, that's right before that judge,51700:35:23.829 --> 00:35:29.510that's right, gonna Slam that gaveland say guilty. Yeah, death,51800:35:29.949 --> 00:35:31.949the death penalty. Yeah, andso that's why there are no appeals?51900:35:31.989 --> 00:35:36.059Yeah, there are any. There'sno appeals into yes, taken.52000:35:36.179 --> 00:35:38.420That's right, there's there's no appealto that. Yeah, and so we52100:35:38.539 --> 00:35:42.420have to, you know, betactful in the way that we we speak52200:35:42.420 --> 00:35:45.619to the judge, but we haveto also understand. Taking it to to52300:35:45.699 --> 00:35:47.619a different analogy, which is afun analogy. Yeah, is that there's52400:35:47.619 --> 00:35:52.050going to be distractions. Abortion isthe devil's pride and joy. Yeah,52500:35:52.369 --> 00:35:57.530if you're in front of an abortionclinic, don't be surprised if the enemy52600:35:57.650 --> 00:36:02.849sends distractions. And the picture Igive people is said, imagine the abortion52700:36:04.010 --> 00:36:08.480clinic and imagining just abortion in generalis a big steamy pile of manure.52800:36:08.840 --> 00:36:14.199Okay, because it's bad and it'sstinks, it's a mess. It is52900:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.920and we've been called by God toclean up the mess, right, and53000:36:17.039 --> 00:36:21.590we're using our gospel shovels because weknow that the Gospel is the only thing53100:36:21.670 --> 00:36:23.309that's going to clean up the mess. That's or shovels, I like.53200:36:23.630 --> 00:36:28.389Do you like that? Or usingour Gospel Shovels, may by act me53300:36:29.670 --> 00:36:31.429company and makes all the good stuff, and we're there to clean up the53400:36:31.469 --> 00:36:37.099mess, right, and we're keepingour head down and we're scooping. It's53500:36:37.139 --> 00:36:38.579a big mess and we're going tobe busy for a long time, because53600:36:38.619 --> 00:36:42.500you for a while. Yeah,but what happens with a big steamy Polo53700:36:42.539 --> 00:36:45.699maneure? Well, it attracts,sadly, flies and other tracks. Flies53800:36:46.019 --> 00:36:51.409of all kinds. Yeah, andthis is kind of funny. It attracts53900:36:51.449 --> 00:36:54.449flies. You know, there's green, shiny kind horse flies. Yeah,54000:36:54.489 --> 00:36:59.409they just common household fly. Oh, kind of flies. It attracts in54100:36:59.570 --> 00:37:02.039flies. They come for all differentkinds of reasons. Some come to eat,54200:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.800yeah, some come to lay eggs, some clump come just because everybody54300:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.079else is going. Some are wellmeaning flies, they want to help you54400:37:10.159 --> 00:37:15.400clean up the mess, but they'reflies nonetheless. And see what I use54500:37:15.440 --> 00:37:20.230this analogy? It's because we asGospel centered side of all counselors, s54600:37:20.429 --> 00:37:23.989blers, shovelers, shovelers will getdistracted and spat and flies. Right.54700:37:24.030 --> 00:37:29.030Yeah, and when you get distractedin Swaton flies and when, example,54800:37:29.230 --> 00:37:31.980is pro abortion people, yeah,people that are coming out there that escorts,54900:37:34.139 --> 00:37:37.099you know, counter air quotes,counter protesters. They want to try55000:37:37.099 --> 00:37:40.820to get you distracted and talking tothem. And I've seen pro lifers.55100:37:40.820 --> 00:37:45.210I'll listen. I've done it myselfwhere I let those people, the pro55200:37:45.250 --> 00:37:47.409abortion people, be the focus.They're out there in their bright vests and55300:37:47.730 --> 00:37:51.889and I just abhor what they standfor. But because they stand for murder55400:37:52.050 --> 00:37:54.570and they're so deceived and you sodesperately want to sell on, sometimmer just55500:37:54.690 --> 00:37:59.159nasty and s they say things pushyour buttons. Yeah, and you get55600:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.800distracted. Yeah, and even thoughyou were appealing to that mother. This55700:38:02.960 --> 00:38:07.599is one of the reasons why distractionsare just not a not a good thing,55800:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.280in distractions in this way specially.You know you've graciously appealed to that55900:38:10.360 --> 00:38:14.909abortion minded mom. She's gone intothe abortion clinic. She's considered what you56000:38:14.989 --> 00:38:17.110said. She's gone on into theabortion clinic. She might actually come back56100:38:17.150 --> 00:38:22.150out and talk you, who knows. Meanwhile, you've gotten distracted swaton flies.56200:38:22.150 --> 00:38:24.190You're arguing with a pro abortion advocate, and that woman who saw you56300:38:24.670 --> 00:38:28.380as she was going in you're reallynice and kind and she's thinking maybe I56400:38:28.420 --> 00:38:30.659want to go out there and talk. Now looks out the window and see56500:38:30.699 --> 00:38:32.739you're out there fighting with one ofthe pro abortion people, and so the56600:38:32.820 --> 00:38:37.380same stuff she's got going on herheart, the confusion, the ants,56700:38:37.500 --> 00:38:39.179the anger she's seen out there onthe sidewalk and she's like, well,56800:38:39.619 --> 00:38:42.690they got nothing more than what Igot going on. I'm not going to56900:38:42.769 --> 00:38:45.449talk to that person. I don'tneed to listen or you know, and57000:38:45.730 --> 00:38:49.170if you think about it, what'shappened in that scenario? With this analogy?57100:38:49.650 --> 00:38:52.570You've dropped your shovel, yeah,and you've dropped it in the manure57200:38:52.929 --> 00:38:54.409and it's splashed up on you.That's right. You know you'RE gonna pick57300:38:54.409 --> 00:38:57.679up a dirty show. Yeah,you can pick up over your hands and57400:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.239it's going to slip in, slide, and you have lost your effectiveness.57500:39:00.280 --> 00:39:04.119Yeah, absolutely. So that's whyI've got to be careful. Also,57600:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.599and I've seen it, where you'llattract, remember I said, some well57700:39:07.679 --> 00:39:12.630meaning flies. There's some quote,pro lifers or whatever that come out there,57800:39:12.670 --> 00:39:15.829right, and the reality is there, just there because, hey,57900:39:15.829 --> 00:39:17.150it looks like fun just to bethere. Yeah, and they end up58000:39:17.150 --> 00:39:22.030being a distraction. Then you findyourself arguing with them, arguing methodology,58100:39:22.469 --> 00:39:24.860arguing theology, out in front ofthe abortion clinic. And Listen, I'm58200:39:24.900 --> 00:39:29.380a theology Geek. Okay, Iread theology, I like theology. I58300:39:29.500 --> 00:39:34.099study theology. Theology is important.It does matter. Yes, the people58400:39:34.099 --> 00:39:37.690that say theology doesn't matter don't knowtheir bibles. Theology does matter. But58500:39:37.849 --> 00:39:43.250arguing theology in front of an abortionclinic is swaton flies. I'm telling you,58600:39:43.369 --> 00:39:45.329it's Swat and flies. That canbe had in some other context.58700:39:45.730 --> 00:39:49.969But again, if you're arguing withyour with each other, and I don't58800:39:50.010 --> 00:39:52.119care what you say, you mightnot be with that group or you may58900:39:52.440 --> 00:39:57.000say, well, we disassociate withthat group. But from an abortion minded59000:39:57.079 --> 00:40:00.199mom, again, that judge.Looking from that side to the sidewalk where59100:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.679you are, she sees one groupof people. That doesn't matter how separated59200:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.269you are to matter if you've gottwo different kinds of t shirts on both59300:40:08.510 --> 00:40:12.230groups. Are All three groups,or whatever they're standing on the on the59400:40:12.269 --> 00:40:15.309pro life side of the sidewalk,so to spam, are all one monolithic59500:40:15.429 --> 00:40:20.309group to her. So if you'refighting among yourselves, again you're displaying nothing59600:40:20.389 --> 00:40:23.260but the same confusion, angst andall that stuff that she's got going on59700:40:23.380 --> 00:40:28.460her heart. And again, yourSwat and flies right. Another funny example59800:40:28.699 --> 00:40:32.820is we have, and it's justlike so obvious this what this is.59900:40:32.860 --> 00:40:37.570We have a man who at theabortion clinic here, owns a business just60000:40:37.650 --> 00:40:44.050around the corner right and he walksthrough almost every day on his lunch hour60100:40:44.489 --> 00:40:49.570and he just rails on us forteaching false theology, for believing that God60200:40:49.690 --> 00:40:54.159has triune so where houses her saididolager's trinity? God worshippers and he wants60300:40:54.199 --> 00:40:58.400to get in. Listen. I'vegotten in those conversations. I've talked to60400:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.679him lengthy conversations for an hour.But guess what, it was just Swat60500:41:01.760 --> 00:41:06.150and flies. He was just adistraction that came to get me focused off60600:41:06.230 --> 00:41:08.070of why I was there. Youknow, when you feel called to go60700:41:08.150 --> 00:41:13.190to an abortion clinic, that's athat's a pretty unique calling. You know,60800:41:13.349 --> 00:41:15.230for a lot of Christians it justnever would enter into the equation for60900:41:15.309 --> 00:41:19.820them. I believe there's a lotmore Christians that are called out there than61000:41:19.860 --> 00:41:22.300actually go. But when you gotthat calling, understand you didn't. God61100:41:22.340 --> 00:41:27.019didn't call you to go out thenreach the pro abortion escorts. He didn't61200:41:27.059 --> 00:41:29.940call you to go out there andreaches reach the security guard, even though61300:41:29.940 --> 00:41:31.780they're all valuable. Exactly. They'reall I'm not I'm not equating them with61400:41:31.889 --> 00:41:36.650flies because they're not valuable human being. It's just an analogy. So breaks61500:41:36.690 --> 00:41:38.809down. They're human beings. They'remade in God's image. Yeah, God61600:41:38.849 --> 00:41:42.369would save them in a moment ifthey would turn to him. Yeah,61700:41:42.449 --> 00:41:45.809but he didn't call you there toreach them. They may get reached by61800:41:46.090 --> 00:41:49.519kind of default. Right, you'repreaching the Gospel. They're here in the61900:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.280Gospel. Right, God could reachthey're seeing live solely. There are times62000:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.280when it's appropriate to have a conversationwith them. Right, but if you62100:41:55.440 --> 00:41:59.480let them be the focus, you'regoing to get distracted, you're going to62200:41:59.519 --> 00:42:01.750Drop Your Shovel, your Gospel Shovel, in the mass, you're going to62300:42:01.789 --> 00:42:06.389get the mess on you and it'snot going to go so well. Right,62400:42:06.510 --> 00:42:09.349take it from me, learn fromMama's Day. Don't get distracted Swat62500:42:09.429 --> 00:42:13.909and flies. Now, what inthe world does this have to do with62600:42:13.989 --> 00:42:19.260the Bible? And there are,there are actually many, many examples in62700:42:19.340 --> 00:42:22.860the Bible of leaders doing good work, doing good ministry, called by God,62800:42:23.699 --> 00:42:29.820who get distracted by things that arevaluable and important. Yeah, and62900:42:30.250 --> 00:42:36.849in doing so they their effectiveness intheir main ministry is dampened. YEA,63000:42:36.969 --> 00:42:39.650so they it's like I said whenwe started out, the good is always63100:42:39.650 --> 00:42:43.449the enemy of the best. Right, right, get distracted, I get63200:42:43.489 --> 00:42:45.920off course. And one of thosestories, yeah, is the story of63300:42:46.000 --> 00:42:50.039Moses. Yeah, it's great,great and great, you know, and63400:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.840probably more appropriate than than even yourmaneuver and flies. Yeah, and maybe,63500:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.400maybe. And so where's that storyyet? Okay, so that.63600:42:57.639 --> 00:43:02.309So that story is in exodus eighteen. Okay, exodus eighteen. And and63700:43:02.469 --> 00:43:08.550really the story where Moses gets distractedand how he learns to deal with that,63800:43:08.829 --> 00:43:15.300based on Wise Council, is prettymuch in verses thirteen through twenty seven.63900:43:15.539 --> 00:43:16.179Okay, well, I'm not goingto read all of that. You64000:43:16.260 --> 00:43:22.059guys can read that. But basethrough the picture is God called Moses to64100:43:22.139 --> 00:43:24.139be a deliverer of the children ofIsrael, right, to go down to64200:43:24.300 --> 00:43:28.769Egypt to deliver his people. Youguys know the story the ten plagues.64300:43:28.769 --> 00:43:32.449Ultimately, Moses leads the children ofIsrael through the Wilderness. Yeah, but64400:43:32.610 --> 00:43:36.809some things happen in the wilderness andthe children of is Alary, Israel,64500:43:36.969 --> 00:43:39.489certainly got distracted, yeah, fromgetting to the Promised Land. Yeah,64600:43:39.650 --> 00:43:44.000yeah, and for forty years wanderedin the wilderness. Yeah, but Moses64700:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.719was called to lead them, wascalled to lead them to the promised land.64800:43:46.840 --> 00:43:51.119Right, right, but he getsdistracted. Yeah, they're grumbling,64900:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.639they have all kinds of complaints andproblems and they go to Moses and they65000:43:54.789 --> 00:44:00.230and they say to Moses, becausehe's the leader, solve these some of65100:44:00.309 --> 00:44:01.630these problems. Yeah, I mean, he's got a lot of people,65200:44:02.070 --> 00:44:07.309he's got and they want him.Moses, we need you to sort through65300:44:07.630 --> 00:44:09.659all of our issues. Right,I've got an argument with my neighbor here.65400:44:09.659 --> 00:44:12.900I need you to sort through there. Right. I've got a little65500:44:12.940 --> 00:44:15.139bit of concern here with with thelaw that you gave or some of these65600:44:15.179 --> 00:44:17.780rules and stuff, and I'm notreally sure. Can you clarify here?65700:44:17.940 --> 00:44:21.699Right, and you give some clearityhere. Can you speak into this situation?65800:44:21.780 --> 00:44:25.050Yeah, and so Moses, thoughhe's called to deliver and lead the65900:44:25.090 --> 00:44:29.610children of Israel through the Wilderness tothe Promised Land, is getting distracted with66000:44:29.809 --> 00:44:34.969all kinds of other complaints and allkinds of other concerns. So he's growing66100:44:35.050 --> 00:44:42.199weary and he's growing overwhelmed. NotDistraction can lead to many other terrible things,66200:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.480just absolute just being just overburdened.And that was what happened with Moses.66300:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.880He was overburdened with all this andhe didn't even recognize it, which66400:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.710I think is interesting. It wasit was his fatherin law who recognized it.66500:44:53.829 --> 00:44:58.989Moses himself was just doing his bestand screwing trying to solve all of66600:44:59.070 --> 00:45:01.469this. Yeah, and what acertain he's called on. Hey, you66700:45:01.909 --> 00:45:05.550cannot do all this. Maybe.Yeah, well, here it is.66800:45:05.590 --> 00:45:08.059It's so. It says. So. When Moses Father in law saw all66900:45:08.139 --> 00:45:10.539that he did for the people,he said, what is this thing that67000:45:10.619 --> 00:45:15.340you're doing for the people? Whydo you alone sit and all the people67100:45:15.460 --> 00:45:19.619stand before you? Morning until evening? He's Tuking till he's name. That's67200:45:19.659 --> 00:45:22.809not leading, that's standing there solvingall these varieties and rather than lead them67300:45:22.849 --> 00:45:28.170through the Wilderness and really getting withGod, Getting Direction from the Lord,67400:45:28.210 --> 00:45:30.130because that's what Moses was doing,spending time with the Lord, get direction67500:45:30.170 --> 00:45:35.130from him and being loved through thewildern right, he's dealing with all these67600:45:35.250 --> 00:45:37.559everyday quarrels with the people. Yeah, and Moses said to his father in67700:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.280law, because the people come tome and it to inquire of God,67800:45:40.360 --> 00:45:45.599so that we want you, Moses, to be the mediator between God.67900:45:45.719 --> 00:45:47.719For us that's a good thing.It's a good that's a great thing.68000:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.590Right. So is it the best? If, but is it the best?68100:45:51.710 --> 00:45:54.630Right? And so Moses father inlaw, goes on to say this68200:45:54.829 --> 00:45:59.389is not a good thing. Yes, what you're doing is not. He's68300:45:59.469 --> 00:46:02.590basically saying, Moses, you're gettingdistractive from the main thing here. Yeah,68400:46:02.630 --> 00:46:07.380you're dropping your shovel and renewer.Right, getting the mess on you.68500:46:07.579 --> 00:46:10.980Right. Is it good to reachpro abortion people? Yeah, for68600:46:12.139 --> 00:46:15.619the Lord, just as these goodright to be inquired. For the I68700:46:15.659 --> 00:46:19.730mean Lord, if you're an infront of an abortion for any amount of68800:46:19.769 --> 00:46:22.170time, you'll get questions from peoplethat will try to distract you, especially68900:46:22.210 --> 00:46:25.809talking to pro abortion people. Imean I've had, quote, good conversation69000:46:25.969 --> 00:46:30.530with the pro abortion people to abouttheology, about the existence of God.69100:46:31.090 --> 00:46:36.639But guess what I find out?I'm sitting here talking to this person about69200:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.360whatever you want. I mean,they'll take you around the mountain. You'll69300:46:39.360 --> 00:46:43.280think, okay, I'm going toreach this person right and listen, God69400:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.239can do it. So I'm notdiscounting that. But you give every apologetic69500:46:45.320 --> 00:46:51.150under the sun and you find outyou you've actually began and ended in the69600:46:51.190 --> 00:46:53.510same place. Right, and we'renot listening to you. They were distracting69700:46:53.550 --> 00:46:57.949you. And while you're having thatconversation with that pro abortion person, there's69800:46:57.949 --> 00:47:00.190a mom that just zipped into thedriveway, just walked into the door of69900:47:00.230 --> 00:47:06.219the abortion clinic, and she didn'tget any kind of Christian voice, no70000:47:06.380 --> 00:47:08.820appeal to her, no ad becauseall of your attention was focused on that70100:47:08.900 --> 00:47:12.699probortion person. That's right, there'sno one speaking for that being. And70200:47:12.780 --> 00:47:15.130the same way in this story withMoses, he's poured into these people,70300:47:15.170 --> 00:47:20.369he's sorting through their issues, they'rebringing their things before him and rather than70400:47:20.409 --> 00:47:23.489being the deliver that he's called tobe, he gets distracted and becomes a70500:47:23.650 --> 00:47:28.369judge between the people. Right,jeth row ultimately gives him some wise counsel70600:47:28.409 --> 00:47:30.079and says, Hey, you needto find some other guys. They can70700:47:30.239 --> 00:47:35.199do this, delegate to what you'redoing. Yeah, yeah, and so70800:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.320hopefully that helps you guys. Thatpicture helps you guys, because it can.70900:47:38.599 --> 00:47:43.199You can easily get distracted out thereand there can be some delegation of71000:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.710things within sidewalk counseling. I mean, we've done it as far as we've71100:47:45.710 --> 00:47:50.510got a big enough team. Thepro abortion people we know because we've read71200:47:50.550 --> 00:47:52.949their training information. So we're cutedinto what they're doing. They're trying to71300:47:52.949 --> 00:47:57.590get us in conversations. We knowit's because they want to distract us from71400:47:57.590 --> 00:48:00.139engaging with board abortion minded women,right. They say that in they're training.71500:48:00.340 --> 00:48:04.260Yeah, and so we do iskind of turn their tactic on them71600:48:04.300 --> 00:48:07.059and we've got a big enough team, will send somebody to go and talk71700:48:07.179 --> 00:48:10.219to them and get an endless conversationso that if a vehicle stops, for71800:48:10.300 --> 00:48:14.650example, they don't come and jumpin between the person talking to that lady71900:48:14.690 --> 00:48:17.570in the car and interrupt the thethe conversation so that they drive on in.72000:48:17.889 --> 00:48:21.090They're in a conversation with us,right, and they don't want to72100:48:21.090 --> 00:48:22.889pull away from it because we're tryingto be compelling. And Yeah, all72200:48:22.929 --> 00:48:25.530that we're saying. And so wewere set kind of lovingated. We have72300:48:25.809 --> 00:48:30.119delegated so that we can keep themain thing, the main thing. Yeah,72400:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.519absolutely. Yeah, and I getdistracted by flies and a little curious72500:48:34.519 --> 00:48:39.280about what those mate well meaning fliesare, the well meaning flies and,72600:48:39.440 --> 00:48:43.389like I said, some of theChristians that show up. Well, I72700:48:43.909 --> 00:48:46.190I meant real well meaning flies.I'm not familiar with that. Oh well,72800:48:46.309 --> 00:48:50.550that was just part of the analogy. That's maybe we're actually breaks down.72900:48:50.750 --> 00:48:55.659Okay, but again, the pictureis don't get distracted. Yeah,73000:48:55.820 --> 00:49:00.219why are you there? Focus onwhy you're there. So hopefully this helps73100:49:00.260 --> 00:49:05.340you guys with sidewall counseling ministry andmaybe just pro life ministry in general.73200:49:05.380 --> 00:49:09.170Yeah, these analogies help me.For sure share these analogies with other people,73300:49:09.210 --> 00:49:12.929especially the fun manure one, becauseI'm yeah, it's Feah. I73400:49:12.969 --> 00:49:16.130think it really helped. Yeah,but the one about racing upside what consolers73500:49:16.170 --> 00:49:20.289and training other sidewalk counselors. Ithink those three year or any pro life73600:49:20.329 --> 00:49:23.599ministry, I think those three areasare all really really important to to keep73700:49:23.639 --> 00:49:28.400in mind your philosophy, your practiceand your purpose. Yeah, and how73800:49:28.440 --> 00:49:31.679to stay fact, absolutely purpose.Absolutely the judge analogy really does help.73900:49:31.920 --> 00:49:36.719It does. I can't get focusedon all you who were trying to reach74000:49:36.800 --> 00:49:39.030there. You know we're trying tosay that innocent baby, but we're appealing74100:49:39.070 --> 00:49:43.429to the judge. So hope thesewere blessing. You guys. Share a74200:49:43.469 --> 00:49:45.789little bit of feedback with us ifyou want to shoot me an email.74300:49:45.789 --> 00:49:50.710D Parks at cities for lifecom.Vicky is vcssi orget cities for lifecom.74400:49:50.789 --> 00:49:52.019Check out our sidewalks for life side. I think we're going to put this74500:49:52.139 --> 00:49:54.619out as an article. Think it'salready and there you okay, yeah,74600:49:54.659 --> 00:49:59.139on sidewalks for life. It's I'llwalks in be forore lifecom. Share this74700:49:59.219 --> 00:50:07.250podcast. Until next time, Godbless. Give me out love for love.74800:50:09.969 --> 00:50:19.409Give me our love for gratitude.I know it will cost me my74900:50:19.769 --> 00:50:27.159love. Nothing's too precious in someyou