Oct. 30, 2019

Thou Shall Not Judge. Are Christians Called To Judge?

Thou Shall Not Judge. Are Christians Called To Judge?

In frontline pro-life ministry one of the most common statements we hear is "Don't judge me" or "Thou Shall Not Judge". As those who are called to speak the truth in love we have to make judgments but we shouldn't be judgmental. Join Vicky and Daniel...


In frontline pro-life ministry one of the most common statements we hear is "Don't judge me" or "Thou Shall Not Judge". As those who are called to speak the truth in love we have to make judgments but we shouldn't be judgmental. Join Vicky and Daniel as they talk through the subject of judging from a Gospel-centered, Biblical perspective.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.470 Lord, I am your Val. Shall not judge. It's probably one of 3 00:00:10.509 --> 00:00:14.949 the most quoted or misquoted scriptures that we hear in pro life ministry. But 4 00:00:15.109 --> 00:00:19.390 is this concept biblical? Are we as Christians called to judge? Please take 5 00:00:19.469 --> 00:00:29.100 with us as we tackle the subject. I felt show passis touch your heart. 6 00:00:35.140 --> 00:00:39.210 Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. We appreciate those who join 7 00:00:39.289 --> 00:00:42.369 us. In this episode. We're going to talk about judgment. We're not 8 00:00:42.609 --> 00:00:47.609 going to talk about judging as sidewalk counselors. That's probably one of the most 9 00:00:48.969 --> 00:00:55.679 quoted or misquoted scriptures in the entire Bible when we talk to whether it's abortion 10 00:00:55.759 --> 00:01:00.520 minded women or even pro abortion people or whoever it might be. Even some 11 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.719 well meaning Christians might say, you know, we're not supposed to judge. 12 00:01:03.709 --> 00:01:07.829 Of course we understand that right. We want to, want to follow with 13 00:01:07.909 --> 00:01:10.390 the Bible says. Who Want to honor the Lord and what we do, 14 00:01:11.430 --> 00:01:12.950 and so we're going to talk about how we navigate through this thing because, 15 00:01:14.189 --> 00:01:19.459 you know, the modern, even Christian perspective is like the worst possible thing 16 00:01:19.579 --> 00:01:23.540 you could do is to judge someone. At least the worst possible way we 17 00:01:23.659 --> 00:01:26.739 could be perceived is being perceived as as judging. We don't want to be 18 00:01:26.859 --> 00:01:33.569 judgy. And even some churches, of course, craft messages and and relevant 19 00:01:33.569 --> 00:01:38.409 talks rather than the preaching. They be relevant talks and and try to come 20 00:01:38.489 --> 00:01:44.530 across as non judgmental. And so let's talk this through then, Vickie, 21 00:01:44.609 --> 00:01:48.680 and again you know from the beginning of this podcast, we want to talk 22 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:52.959 things through based on the Bible, not just based on you, the opinions 23 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.920 of man, based on the opinions of society or even based on the opinions 24 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:00.519 of the of the modern church. We want to do what we do and 25 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:02.269 think the way that we think and talk about the things that we talked about 26 00:02:02.269 --> 00:02:06.390 in light of the scripture, multimately in light of the Gospel, right, 27 00:02:06.670 --> 00:02:09.229 which is how I have to say honestly, when I was a brand new 28 00:02:09.710 --> 00:02:15.780 counselor out on this hidewalk there, when I heard that, well, you're 29 00:02:15.900 --> 00:02:19.780 terrible Christian because you're judging others, or the pro choice socalled pro choice, 30 00:02:19.819 --> 00:02:24.659 people would say you're you are a hypocrite because you're judging, and they'd say, 31 00:02:24.780 --> 00:02:29.580 especially I was a hypocrite because I was judging when I myself had had 32 00:02:29.620 --> 00:02:32.169 an abortion. Yeah, and, and I must say I grappled with that. 33 00:02:32.449 --> 00:02:36.969 I it and and I did start to scour the scripture and find out. 34 00:02:37.050 --> 00:02:39.530 Well, it seems to me we are called to be here on the 35 00:02:39.650 --> 00:02:44.960 sidewalk and there's certainly versus. We've gone over those in other podcasts that we 36 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:47.879 tell us that we should be. So are we to be on the sidewalk 37 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:53.360 silent? Are we to be on the sidewalk not pointing out good from evil, 38 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:57.680 right from wrong? What? What does the Bible say? So so 39 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:00.710 I'm really glad we're having this podcast because I will tell you it's one of 40 00:03:00.750 --> 00:03:06.789 the things new counselors that I train, new volunteers that I train, will 41 00:03:07.509 --> 00:03:09.469 they say, I don't quite know how to answer this. So I think 42 00:03:09.550 --> 00:03:15.219 this is good because I think it will help give them and and anyone involved 43 00:03:15.300 --> 00:03:23.740 in in pro life discussions with others, courage to make judgments. Yeah, 44 00:03:23.060 --> 00:03:27.330 yeah, know, so you know this. This podcast is not just focused 45 00:03:27.370 --> 00:03:30.770 on sidewall counseling. Again, that's their perspective we're going to be coming from, 46 00:03:30.810 --> 00:03:34.330 but I think this can apply in any realm of prolife ministry. Whether 47 00:03:34.370 --> 00:03:38.729 you're on a college campus and talking you from a prolife apologetic standpoint, whether 48 00:03:38.770 --> 00:03:43.439 you're in a pregnancy center and you're talking with an abortion minded mom and and 49 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:46.919 she's thinking you're being judgmental, we will be want to be non judgmental, 50 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:50.560 but again we want to thank through this thing biblically. We've touched on this, 51 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:54.479 I'm sure, several times in different podcasts and about the judgment thing. 52 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:59.509 It's almost a sort of a running joke within, you know, our circles, 53 00:03:59.710 --> 00:04:01.789 even within my family. You know, some of my kids sometimes might 54 00:04:01.830 --> 00:04:04.669 say to each other, you know, the Bible says Thou shall not judge, 55 00:04:04.669 --> 00:04:06.949 and they're just kidding, of course, because they've heard it so many 56 00:04:06.990 --> 00:04:12.340 times as they've been involved in this kind of ministry at least heard me talk 57 00:04:12.419 --> 00:04:15.500 about it. So let's dive into what the scripture actually says. Exit this 58 00:04:15.579 --> 00:04:20.939 Chapter Twenty is where the ten commandments are found, and I'm told actually that 59 00:04:21.220 --> 00:04:25.449 this scripture is actually in there. Thou shall not judge. I've even heard 60 00:04:25.449 --> 00:04:30.329 it in perfect king games English before. Okay, about shout not judgeth like 61 00:04:30.490 --> 00:04:33.850 that, and so. But if you look in Exitus Chapter Twenty where the 62 00:04:33.850 --> 00:04:38.639 ten commandments are found, God's moral law, you actually find that that's not 63 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.480 there. It's a matter of fact, if you look from genesis all the 64 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.160 way to revelation, one of the things that you're not going to find, 65 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:48.480 just like you're not going to find that the the awesome pastor of scripture, 66 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:53.829 which is God helps those that help themselves. You heard that one thousandto t 67 00:04:54.110 --> 00:04:57.750 yeah, it's not. It's not in there either. And what is cleanliness 68 00:04:57.790 --> 00:05:00.269 is next to godliness. You know, you might think you would find that 69 00:05:00.350 --> 00:05:02.350 somewhere in the page subscripture, but you actually want. If you did, 70 00:05:02.430 --> 00:05:05.629 it'd be right beside thou shall not judge. It's actually not in the Bible. 71 00:05:06.379 --> 00:05:10.579 But there are principles in the Bible about judging. Yeah, be probably 72 00:05:10.620 --> 00:05:12.939 one of the most famous, and you have a list of scriptures that you 73 00:05:12.980 --> 00:05:15.259 want to touch on. Yeah, but one of the most famous, and 74 00:05:15.300 --> 00:05:19.819 I think we're people get confused with Thou shall not judge, and what the 75 00:05:19.899 --> 00:05:27.290 Bible actually says is when Jesus he talks about judging right, and I'll just 76 00:05:27.490 --> 00:05:39.199 read some of that here, and it's in Matthew and Chapter Seven. Matthew, 77 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:43.319 Chapter Seven and it starts out on the first verse. Judge, not 78 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:48.120 that you be not judged for with the same or with with what judgment you 79 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.829 judge. And King James says with the same measure that used to judge it 80 00:05:51.910 --> 00:05:56.069 we measured back to you. But it says with the this is a new 81 00:05:56.110 --> 00:05:59.990 King James version, with what judgment you judge, you will be judged and 82 00:06:00.110 --> 00:06:01.470 with the measure that you use, it will be measured back to you. 83 00:06:02.389 --> 00:06:04.980 Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye but not do not 84 00:06:05.139 --> 00:06:08.579 consider the plank in your own eye? So this is sort of like a 85 00:06:09.019 --> 00:06:13.779 hyperbical parable. I guess you could say, yeah, you got a beam 86 00:06:13.860 --> 00:06:15.980 in your eye. That's the picture. You got this big log sticking out 87 00:06:15.980 --> 00:06:19.850 of your eyes. White people out if you're turn your head too fast. 88 00:06:19.889 --> 00:06:24.490 Right. Meanwhile you're judging your name and you're looking at the back, yes, 89 00:06:24.689 --> 00:06:27.850 of nothing in his eye. Yeah, so should Jesus say and judge 90 00:06:27.850 --> 00:06:30.529 not as should be judge, and same measure you used to judge be measured 91 00:06:30.529 --> 00:06:32.680 back to you in the same level that you judge people. You're going to 92 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:36.319 be judge. You be judged by the by the standards that you set yourself. 93 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:41.720 You're going to be judged by those very standards. But he does talk 94 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:44.720 about the log this in your eye, help your brother to remove the spects, 95 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:46.550 and that's in his eye. And verse for it says, How can 96 00:06:46.589 --> 00:06:49.990 you say to your brother, let me remove the speck from your eye and 97 00:06:50.069 --> 00:06:54.509 look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite. First five, 98 00:06:54.829 --> 00:06:57.029 and that's sort of a key word here, I think, as we talked 99 00:06:57.029 --> 00:06:59.829 about judgment. First remove the plank from your own eye and then you can 100 00:06:59.829 --> 00:07:02.939 see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's side. And continues on. 101 00:07:03.100 --> 00:07:09.100 But we'll we'll stop right there, because what is Jesus saying here is he's 102 00:07:09.180 --> 00:07:15.579 saying that we should not make a judgment at all. No, I would 103 00:07:15.579 --> 00:07:18.730 I would say no. I mean he did you presuppose, when he says 104 00:07:19.050 --> 00:07:24.970 first do this and then, yeah, do this, that he's saying at 105 00:07:25.050 --> 00:07:29.730 some point, in my opinion, that you can at some point then do 106 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:32.160 that other thing? Yeah, well, so he does say, you know, 107 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:34.839 you have a plank in your own eye, right, and your brother 108 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:39.120 has a speck. So so we can liken these things, the plank to 109 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.160 sin, the Speck to sin. So you got a big sin going on. 110 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:45.029 Yeah, they got little sin going on right, and you're nitpicking their 111 00:07:45.069 --> 00:07:46.750 little sin when you need to deal with your big sin. Now he doesn't 112 00:07:46.829 --> 00:07:50.350 say that you need to forget about the speck in your brother's eye. That's 113 00:07:50.389 --> 00:07:53.829 what worried about the speck in your brother's eye because you got a plank. 114 00:07:53.949 --> 00:07:57.670 No, he says, you get the plank out and then you can see 115 00:07:57.709 --> 00:08:01.620 clearly to help your brother remove the speck. So the speck that's there, 116 00:08:01.779 --> 00:08:03.100 the sin that's there, the folly that's here, whatever it might be, 117 00:08:03.740 --> 00:08:07.379 is has to be dealt with. It needs to be dealt with, but 118 00:08:07.500 --> 00:08:11.899 you need to deal with yourself first. And I might reference to scripture a 119 00:08:11.939 --> 00:08:15.050 couple of times, but this is in First Corinthians Chapter Eleven, and the 120 00:08:15.089 --> 00:08:20.889 context here is Paul talking about communion and the Lord's supper and he talks about 121 00:08:20.889 --> 00:08:24.730 how they take Commu in worthily in all of this. But in Verse Thirty 122 00:08:24.769 --> 00:08:28.879 One of First Corinthians chapter eleven he says this and it's it is there's a 123 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.960 context to it, but I think this is one of those scriptures that you 124 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.759 can take out of its context and it kind of be universally applied. If 125 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:39.840 you will. And here it is in Verse Thirty One of First Corinthians chapter 126 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.710 eleven. For if we judge ourselves, we will not be judged. If 127 00:08:43.750 --> 00:08:48.669 we judge ourselves. So Jesus is talking, and Matthew Chapter Seven. Making 128 00:08:48.710 --> 00:08:54.629 a judgment about yourself, judging yourself first, and then helping your brother to 129 00:08:54.990 --> 00:08:58.580 get the speck. You judging your brother, so to speak, judging the 130 00:08:58.779 --> 00:09:01.340 behavior, or whatever it might be, the spet, judging the fact that 131 00:09:01.419 --> 00:09:03.980 there's a speck there, and then, you know, seeing clearly, to 132 00:09:05.059 --> 00:09:07.460 help them remove the specs. Who Make a judgment about ourselves first? Yeah, 133 00:09:07.539 --> 00:09:11.850 and then we can make judgments about others. And Yeah, and I 134 00:09:11.929 --> 00:09:18.610 see very valuable warnings from our Lord to anyone involved in pro life ministry. 135 00:09:18.809 --> 00:09:22.690 Yeah, you need to be right with God to the very best of your 136 00:09:22.809 --> 00:09:28.039 ability. Yeah, and really be looking at yourself and in prayer and in 137 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:35.960 in in the word and making sure that you have dealt with those logs in 138 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.870 your own life, in your own eye. Yeah, yes, certainly are. 139 00:09:39.909 --> 00:09:43.110 Satan will eat you alive out here. You have the devil eat your 140 00:09:43.190 --> 00:09:48.350 lines, as I say. So, yeah, making a righteous examination of 141 00:09:48.389 --> 00:09:54.259 our own behavior. Now going back to Matthew Chapter Seven and that word that 142 00:09:54.340 --> 00:09:58.620 a pointed out earlier in verse five, hypocrite. Yeah, Jesus, when 143 00:09:58.620 --> 00:10:03.500 he's talking about judgment, here in this passage, he is talking about hypocritical 144 00:10:03.539 --> 00:10:07.610 judgment. You know, it's sort of like, maybe the modern example is 145 00:10:07.769 --> 00:10:11.929 like, you know, you're judging somebody for dipping snuff and you smoke cigarettes 146 00:10:11.970 --> 00:10:15.490 or something. It's hypocritical, like they're different snuff, can't believe they're doing 147 00:10:15.529 --> 00:10:16.490 that. It's going to rock their teeth, they're going to get throat cancer, 148 00:10:16.610 --> 00:10:18.889 whatever, and you're puffing away on a cigarette. Right. It's like 149 00:10:18.970 --> 00:10:24.879 that's hypocrisy. Now he's really, more than anything, talking about the Pharisees 150 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.399 and their their judgment, about about the people, the common people, how 151 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:33.200 much better they are in the fact is they ultimately will go so far in 152 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.549 sin as to crucify the very son of God and they twist the scriptures. 153 00:10:37.549 --> 00:10:41.389 They twisted the scriptures in a way that suited them. Its ypocrisy and he 154 00:10:41.509 --> 00:10:46.309 was dealing with hypocritical judgment right, and that's what oftentimes we talk about, 155 00:10:46.389 --> 00:10:50.299 that shut not judge, and you shouldn't judge what we're talking about, what 156 00:10:50.379 --> 00:10:54.899 the Scripture is talking about is hypocritical judgment. Yeah, yeah, so that's 157 00:10:54.899 --> 00:10:58.460 sort of the groundwork for what we're talking about here, because one of the 158 00:10:58.539 --> 00:11:03.940 things I'm going to say that might offend some people's sensitivities is not that not 159 00:11:03.100 --> 00:11:07.129 only can we judge, that we have a scriptural right to judge, but 160 00:11:07.210 --> 00:11:11.610 we are actually commanded to judge. Not only can we, we must. 161 00:11:11.649 --> 00:11:18.679 As as God loving people, loving individuals, we must judge and we are 162 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.320 equipped. We are equipped to judge. We have the Holy Spirit within us. 163 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.279 Yeah, and who could guide us into all that justness? So we 164 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:30.039 are equipped. And those are the verses we have sleep that I exactly. 165 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:31.720 We have them right in front of us. And the ones that I highlighted 166 00:11:31.909 --> 00:11:35.590 that I I was going to go through our that there is a way to 167 00:11:35.710 --> 00:11:41.149 judge, that is, with righteous judge, and and God does give us 168 00:11:41.429 --> 00:11:46.830 some parameters by which we can and should judge. Yeah, yeah, so 169 00:11:46.070 --> 00:11:48.899 let's jump into okay, well, so the first one, I've got it 170 00:11:48.940 --> 00:11:52.700 and I just went chronologically through the Bible. So the first one is in 171 00:11:52.740 --> 00:11:56.659 lebitticus, one thousand nine hundred and fifteen. Okay, and that says do 172 00:11:56.899 --> 00:12:03.330 not pervert justice, do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the 173 00:12:03.370 --> 00:12:07.529 great. But judge your neighbor fairly. Okay, so I think you know 174 00:12:07.649 --> 00:12:13.769 it. there. It's saying that justice is is to be kept pure. 175 00:12:13.929 --> 00:12:18.360 Don't don't pervert it, don't change your justice depending on who you are speaking 176 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:24.480 to. In other words, speaking to a poor abortion minded mom, I 177 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:30.710 should still say killing your baby is wrong in God's eyes, and speaking to 178 00:12:30.870 --> 00:12:35.509 the rich lady sitting next to me in church who is contemplating taking her teenager 179 00:12:35.990 --> 00:12:41.070 to an abortion, I should make no distinction. The judgment should be the 180 00:12:41.110 --> 00:12:45.179 same. So that's kind of the first principle in that. And then, 181 00:12:45.539 --> 00:12:50.379 secondly, judge fairly. Yeah, we're told to judge fairly, and we 182 00:12:50.419 --> 00:12:54.980 can talk more about maybe what that means to judge fairly. Yeah, but 183 00:12:56.899 --> 00:13:01.129 well, I think judge and fairly is sort of exactly what you just what 184 00:13:01.330 --> 00:13:05.370 you just talked about, like, we're not basing the judgment on an outward 185 00:13:05.370 --> 00:13:09.769 appearance, on an economic status, own killer of person's skin or anything else. 186 00:13:11.409 --> 00:13:16.440 We're judging, when we make a judgment call based on what the Bible 187 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.840 says. We believe that abortion is wrong because it's because the Bible says it's 188 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:26.200 wrong, because God says it's wrong to kill an innocent person. Right and 189 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:30.789 judge and fairly sort of ride alongside that. Equal Balances Right, equal weights 190 00:13:30.830 --> 00:13:35.190 and measures scriptural principle. And so, yeah, we have to be consistent 191 00:13:35.230 --> 00:13:39.549 in that, and doesn't matter who the person is that we encounter, we 192 00:13:39.669 --> 00:13:41.940 need to tell them the truth right of what God's words says. We're called 193 00:13:43.019 --> 00:13:46.139 to judge fairly. And again at that that verse tells us that we are 194 00:13:46.340 --> 00:13:48.379 to judge, but weren't to judge fairly. Okay. The next one I 195 00:13:48.419 --> 00:13:52.059 found was in first kings three, okay, and it was versus nine to 196 00:13:52.220 --> 00:13:58.289 eleven. And this is where Solomon is, is made king, and and 197 00:13:58.490 --> 00:14:03.129 God asks him, what can I do for you? Basically yeah, and 198 00:14:03.370 --> 00:14:09.559 Solomon replies that in this manner, these verses are Solomon's reply to what he 199 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:13.200 would have God to do for him as as made King. Okay, so 200 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:20.600 give your servant a discerning heart to govern your people and to distinguish between right 201 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.149 and wrong, for who is able to judge govern this great people of Yours? 202 00:14:24.750 --> 00:14:28.669 The Lord was pleased that Solomon had asked for this. So God said 203 00:14:28.710 --> 00:14:31.870 to him, since you have asked for this and not for long life or 204 00:14:31.950 --> 00:14:35.470 wealth for yourself. Nor have asked for the death of your entery enemies, 205 00:14:35.549 --> 00:14:41.019 but for a discernment in Administering Justice. I will do what you would have 206 00:14:41.179 --> 00:14:43.419 asked. So we're not a king, at least I'm not, not, 207 00:14:43.779 --> 00:14:50.580 not yet kings and priests. That's well, Okay said, but I'm not 208 00:14:50.659 --> 00:14:54.210 a literal King of a people. I'm not governing a people. But I 209 00:14:54.289 --> 00:14:58.409 think the principle is that God was obviously very pleased that that Solomon above all 210 00:14:58.409 --> 00:15:01.370 these other things that he lists, that maybe, in a worldly sensus, 211 00:15:01.690 --> 00:15:07.039 is what we would desire, but that Solomon listed the ability to discern right 212 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:13.519 from wrong as primary yeah, and God was pleased and then granted him all 213 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:18.159 these other things in addition to that. And I think that's a a great 214 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:24.990 concept for us, that we should also be asking for discernment in being just 215 00:15:26.629 --> 00:15:28.990 yea, and in being able to judge, yeah, right from wrong. 216 00:15:30.110 --> 00:15:33.389 And that pleases God. And where do we find it in the scripture? 217 00:15:33.389 --> 00:15:37.980 Yeah, we're we're told, we know. So we need from the Lord 218 00:15:39.179 --> 00:15:45.059 wisdom to Judge Rightly, just as Solomon did. Yeah, and and and 219 00:15:45.220 --> 00:15:48.539 wisdom to judge fairly when we make a judgment. So here's the thing. 220 00:15:50.009 --> 00:15:52.610 When we talk about judging and when we hear you know, the Bible says 221 00:15:52.649 --> 00:15:58.570 thou shalt not judge, don't judge me. Of course, again Jesus is 222 00:15:58.649 --> 00:16:02.250 talking about hypocritical judgment. That's wrong. When we talk about judgment, we're 223 00:16:02.289 --> 00:16:07.679 actually talking about is making an assessment of behavior exactly. We are not judging 224 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:14.240 a person. Yeah, we are judging a person's actions. Thinks that we 225 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.750 can see. We don't need to and we shouldn't judge motives because we can't 226 00:16:18.789 --> 00:16:22.710 see that. You can guess it, but we can see an action and 227 00:16:22.830 --> 00:16:27.350 if an action such as murdering an innocent human being, which God clearly says 228 00:16:27.429 --> 00:16:32.190 do not, we can judge. That is wrong. Yeah, yeah, 229 00:16:32.230 --> 00:16:34.940 and so again we're talking about the assessment of particular behavior. You know, 230 00:16:36.419 --> 00:16:40.220 when you go, when you pull out of the driveway at your house to 231 00:16:40.340 --> 00:16:42.139 leave, if you're on a busy road especially, you've got to make a 232 00:16:42.220 --> 00:16:45.580 judgment. They're like if cars are passing by a pretty fast you make a 233 00:16:45.620 --> 00:16:48.610 judgment. Okay, is this MAC truck coming fast enough to wear? If 234 00:16:48.610 --> 00:16:51.809 I pull out, it's going to hit me or don't need to wait for 235 00:16:51.850 --> 00:16:53.009 it to pass or need it. Do I need to go. You make 236 00:16:53.049 --> 00:16:56.490 a judgment, and that's not really a moral judgment that you're making. It's 237 00:16:56.490 --> 00:17:02.600 just sort of a natural, practical judgment, but it's it's an assessment of 238 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:06.160 another person's behavior and, based on that behavior, what's the effect going to 239 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:07.920 be? And we're looking at the issue of abortion. Of course we're looking 240 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:12.440 at the assessment of the behavior of a mother. Is Her action going to 241 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:17.710 affect another person or is it just going to affect her? And so, 242 00:17:18.269 --> 00:17:22.470 of course we know in an abortion that baby's alive, that baby's life is 243 00:17:22.549 --> 00:17:26.069 going to be destroyed. We have to make a judgment about that behavior and 244 00:17:26.150 --> 00:17:30.059 then say that it's wrong. There's a big difference, and here's here's where 245 00:17:30.140 --> 00:17:33.059 we I think, when you talk to Christians about not being judgmental, not 246 00:17:33.140 --> 00:17:37.299 being perceived as judge, they're sort of talking about this, the fact that 247 00:17:37.420 --> 00:17:41.259 there's a big difference. This is what people need to understand about judging make 248 00:17:41.299 --> 00:17:45.170 an assessment of behavior and being judgmental, which is like nitpick pick and people's 249 00:17:45.210 --> 00:17:48.890 lives, looking for what's wrong with everyone else rather than first what's wrong with 250 00:17:49.130 --> 00:17:52.650 us, which is what we need to do, based on what Jesus said 251 00:17:52.650 --> 00:17:56.250 and based on what the Apostle Paul said in First Corinthians, chapter eleven. 252 00:17:56.769 --> 00:17:59.799 We need to judge ourselves first, make an assessment of our own behavior, 253 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:03.480 rectify that behavior, and then we can see clearly, and you God is 254 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.079 pleased if we're going to go out and just cast judgments when everyone else they're 255 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.160 wrong, they're wrong, they're wrong. God's not pleased with that. But 256 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:14.029 we make an assessment of our own behavior and we take the call of God 257 00:18:14.230 --> 00:18:18.190 seriously to make an assessment of behavior in general and then do something about that. 258 00:18:18.789 --> 00:18:22.549 God is pleased in that. God is pleased in righteous judgments. Yeah, 259 00:18:22.710 --> 00:18:29.180 and I think picky backing off of that idea that sometimes people will hold 260 00:18:29.259 --> 00:18:32.579 back saying, well, I'm not clean, yeah, our God. I'm 261 00:18:32.579 --> 00:18:36.500 not perfect before God. There are things in my life I know I deal 262 00:18:36.619 --> 00:18:40.059 with that. Yeah, and there are and there will be till the day 263 00:18:40.099 --> 00:18:44.730 we die, because we are flesh until the day we die. We are 264 00:18:44.809 --> 00:18:49.809 not just a spiritual being. But I don't think God would be saying throughout 265 00:18:49.849 --> 00:18:52.329 the Bible, which you'll see by the time we get to the end of 266 00:18:52.930 --> 00:18:59.680 these scriptures, that that we pull out. I don't think he's saying wait 267 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:03.079 until you are perfect. You're right. Yeah, I think he's saying you've 268 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:08.440 examined yourself, you're going forth in in my word and in my power, 269 00:19:10.069 --> 00:19:15.190 and you are ringing light to darkness, which we're clearly called to do. 270 00:19:15.390 --> 00:19:17.549 Yeah, yeah, and Ian, if we're going to wait until we're perfect 271 00:19:17.549 --> 00:19:19.230 and we got it all together, yeah, then what's never going to happen 272 00:19:19.309 --> 00:19:22.150 for everyone. Will Never, and I am even like you know, talking, 273 00:19:23.150 --> 00:19:26.940 share the Gospel with people, people that are lost. Right, yeah, 274 00:19:26.019 --> 00:19:30.619 you have to be perfect before we can bring an imperfect people to person, 275 00:19:30.700 --> 00:19:33.339 to the Lord. Of course, never share it, will never share 276 00:19:33.339 --> 00:19:37.299 it, will never take any action. And so I think that's a that's 277 00:19:37.339 --> 00:19:41.490 a really important point. Yeah, because I think that that is discouraging to 278 00:19:41.609 --> 00:19:45.009 people. They hear these verses and they shrivel up and or they hear the 279 00:19:45.250 --> 00:19:48.450 those, you know, people on the pro choice side saying that shall not 280 00:19:48.609 --> 00:19:53.920 judge until you're right before God, and you all better not right before God. 281 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:56.599 And I see are you know, people just shrivel up and think, 282 00:19:56.680 --> 00:20:00.519 well then I can't speak. Yeah, and and I don't think that's the 283 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:03.720 case. At all. Absolutely not. So move on to another one. 284 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:10.509 How about this one? This is in proverbs twenty four and versus twenty three 285 00:20:10.910 --> 00:20:15.789 to twenty five. These also are the sayings of the wise. To show 286 00:20:15.910 --> 00:20:22.099 partiality in judging is not good. Whoever says to the guilty you are innocent 287 00:20:22.779 --> 00:20:26.779 will be cursed by people's and denounced by nations, but it will go well 288 00:20:26.819 --> 00:20:32.740 with those who convict the guilty and rich blessing will come on them. And 289 00:20:32.859 --> 00:20:36.089 so in the pro life world, this one really popped out at me. 290 00:20:36.369 --> 00:20:42.089 Okay, because thinking of whoever says to the guilty you are innocent, well, 291 00:20:42.890 --> 00:20:48.930 that's exactly what our nation has said to those who are a boarding their 292 00:20:48.970 --> 00:20:52.440 children, and what the pro choice movement is saying. They are speaking to 293 00:20:52.640 --> 00:21:00.279 these women who are guilty of destroying that innocent life that God has created within 294 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:04.150 them and they're telling her it's okay, yeah, and we hear that all 295 00:21:04.390 --> 00:21:07.670 wrong. It's just your body, your choice, that's right, you are, 296 00:21:07.910 --> 00:21:14.829 in a sense, they are saying you are innocent. Yeah, and 297 00:21:15.150 --> 00:21:18.500 and I think it's clear that it's not what we are called to do. 298 00:21:19.299 --> 00:21:22.059 And you know, are you know, based on that scripture in this what 299 00:21:22.140 --> 00:21:25.859 we've talked about this far. You know, we're called, yes, to 300 00:21:25.980 --> 00:21:29.980 it, to judge, to make assessments of individual behavior. That's wrong, 301 00:21:30.220 --> 00:21:33.009 that's right. I'm called to do that, but not just individual behavior, 302 00:21:33.170 --> 00:21:37.690 like national behavior. You Look at the prophets in the Old Testament and look 303 00:21:37.769 --> 00:21:44.369 Jesus himself. He made assessments of the Jewish leaders, their behavior nationally Israel 304 00:21:44.609 --> 00:21:51.039 and their behavior that the prophets. They made assessment of behavior. First God 305 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:55.839 did, and then they took God's truth that was revealed to them, made 306 00:21:55.839 --> 00:22:00.160 an assessment of the behavior of the people and then made a national proclamation against 307 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:03.309 particularly behavior. That's right. One of those behaviors in Jeremiah. Jeremiah deals 308 00:22:03.349 --> 00:22:07.869 particularly with child sacrifice, exactly, offering their children to Molich. Yeah, 309 00:22:07.950 --> 00:22:11.430 and and so he deals with that and he makes a judge it. And 310 00:22:11.470 --> 00:22:15.140 then, based on this scripture, you know, it's it's it's commanded, 311 00:22:15.180 --> 00:22:18.579 it's encouraging and it pleases the Lord. When we make a judgment, HMM, 312 00:22:18.900 --> 00:22:22.900 when we say you are guilty, yeah, and you don't want to 313 00:22:22.940 --> 00:22:26.700 be guilty, you don't have to be guilty, you can choose another path. 314 00:22:26.779 --> 00:22:30.930 Yeah, and then blessings follow. Blessing. Less sings follow on those 315 00:22:30.970 --> 00:22:37.650 who point out there is a difference between guilt and and not guilty and we 316 00:22:37.730 --> 00:22:42.490 shouldn't confuse them and we don't need to confuse them, because God doesn't confuse 317 00:22:42.650 --> 00:22:45.799 them. Right. Yeah, yeah, got us a Gout of justice. 318 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.640 Yeah, I'm next. I'll see you got it marked there in your Bible 319 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:52.720 and I actually went ahead and turned there. It's sort of like the I 320 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.240 guess, the theme scripture, little anthembs. Right, yes, exactly, 321 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:57.910 it is, and I think it's an important scripture for us as side, 322 00:22:57.910 --> 00:23:00.950 well, counselors. We need to have scriptural, you know, backing for 323 00:23:02.069 --> 00:23:06.630 what we do and and this to me is there's a lot of other scripture 324 00:23:06.670 --> 00:23:08.190 backing, but this is one of the things that really fuels my fire. 325 00:23:08.589 --> 00:23:14.460 And I actually spoke with some youth last Saturday and it was a pro life 326 00:23:14.500 --> 00:23:17.700 boot camp that love life had put on. There was some youth there. 327 00:23:17.700 --> 00:23:21.539 They wanted me speak about speaking for those that can't speak for themselves, and 328 00:23:21.660 --> 00:23:23.180 I came out of this, right out of this scripture, because it's a 329 00:23:23.220 --> 00:23:27.130 sort of the bedrock of what we do as a ministry and side about counseling, 330 00:23:27.609 --> 00:23:30.730 and I broke it down and sort of three points. Maybe I'll do 331 00:23:30.809 --> 00:23:33.569 that real quick and discovery. That sounds there. But it starts out. 332 00:23:33.609 --> 00:23:37.809 This is a proverbs thirty one, versus eight and nine, and verse eight 333 00:23:37.930 --> 00:23:41.400 starts out with open your mouth for the beechless, and so I said that's 334 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:45.039 one point there, open your mouth for the speechless. The first point is 335 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:49.880 actually opening your mouth. You've got it. It takes energy to open your 336 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:55.119 mouth, you know, it takes muscles, it takes you being uncomfortable actually, 337 00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:57.950 and for us to make a judgment, especially we know our sin right. 338 00:23:59.029 --> 00:24:00.789 We know, like Paul says, I'm the chief of sinners. We 339 00:24:00.910 --> 00:24:04.309 we know I'm the chief it like I'm wicked. If wasn't for the mercy 340 00:24:04.349 --> 00:24:07.470 and grace of God, I would be lost eternally. But got to save 341 00:24:07.549 --> 00:24:11.460 me. And so that can sometimes keep up, you know, make us 342 00:24:11.500 --> 00:24:14.259 keep our mouth closed, because we know our own flesh and we know our 343 00:24:14.259 --> 00:24:18.140 own failings. But we're commanded open a mouth, to exert effort, to 344 00:24:18.220 --> 00:24:21.180 get out of our comfort zone. And so that's what it's talking about. 345 00:24:21.180 --> 00:24:22.819 It's talking about open your mouth and speeches. We can apply it in that 346 00:24:22.900 --> 00:24:26.369 way. Yeah, and it continues on in the cause of all who are 347 00:24:26.369 --> 00:24:30.009 appointed to die. Open your mouth, and this was my second point. 348 00:24:30.049 --> 00:24:34.490 Judge Righteously, and course this is sort of the theme of this podcast. 349 00:24:34.809 --> 00:24:38.920 Then we're to make a righteous assessment of behavior. When we see behavior, 350 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:45.200 naturally, individually, we didn't make a righteous assessment of that behavior. Now, 351 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.440 how do you get a righteous assessment of behavior? Like, how do 352 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:53.269 you know if that behavior is wrong or if it's right? It's not just 353 00:24:53.470 --> 00:24:57.269 that we get some kind of feeling in our heart. We have God's word. 354 00:24:57.910 --> 00:25:02.829 We see behaviors that is in direct contradiction to God's word and what God 355 00:25:02.910 --> 00:25:06.430 says is right and what God says is good, then we are supposed to 356 00:25:06.589 --> 00:25:11.619 judge that behavior righteously. Yeah, that doesn't mean being judgmental. It doesn't 357 00:25:11.619 --> 00:25:15.539 mean just completely writing people off. That's something we can never do, you 358 00:25:15.619 --> 00:25:18.299 know, with an abortion minded woman or a post abortive women. We can't 359 00:25:18.339 --> 00:25:23.009 just write those people off because they they've contemplated or they've been involved in particular 360 00:25:23.089 --> 00:25:26.569 behavior. God still would save and rescue them like he did for us. 361 00:25:26.609 --> 00:25:30.529 Yeah, that was sort of spy capefully, we would not do that. 362 00:25:30.650 --> 00:25:33.730 We are told that we are to judge but to speak in love, faith 363 00:25:33.769 --> 00:25:37.880 and love. Yeah, and then continue on. It says again, open 364 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.839 your mouth, judge, righteously, plead the cause of the poor and needy. 365 00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:47.240 Now these are and it says that, you know, in the cause 366 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:49.190 of all who are pointed to die. It says that in Verse Eight, 367 00:25:49.230 --> 00:25:52.630 and then it says again, plead the cause of the poor and needy. 368 00:25:52.670 --> 00:25:56.990 And firstnege. Yeah, that word cause is actually could be used as the 369 00:25:56.069 --> 00:26:00.029 word case, like a judicial case. I think we talked about this a 370 00:26:00.069 --> 00:26:04.819 little bit in the what is subwall counseling episode that we did, that we're 371 00:26:04.900 --> 00:26:11.460 called to plead a case. We're called to say this child is unjustly scheduled 372 00:26:11.579 --> 00:26:14.619 to die. Yeah, we make a judgment of that behavior and you ultimately, 373 00:26:14.660 --> 00:26:17.299 in the situation we're dealing with, and we're dealing with an abortion mind 374 00:26:17.380 --> 00:26:21.690 and mom at an abortion clinic, at a pregnancy center, in whatever context 375 00:26:22.329 --> 00:26:26.450 is, she's actually the judge and we're a lawyer pleading with the judge. 376 00:26:26.490 --> 00:26:30.329 You know, ultimately the choice is in her hands, right, she could 377 00:26:30.329 --> 00:26:36.839 choose, as the judge, to slap down the gavel and say guilty, 378 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.680 death sent it. She can do that. We want to appeal to her 379 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:45.119 as a counselor as a lawyer on behalf of that baby, to open our 380 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:48.789 mouth for that child and to speak on behalf of that baby and convince her 381 00:26:48.029 --> 00:26:52.150 that baby does not deserve to die. Right, right, and it's so, 382 00:26:52.269 --> 00:26:55.829 but it requires a judgment. It does, and my translation says, 383 00:26:55.829 --> 00:26:59.029 defend the rights, yeah, the poor needy. There's this sort of an 384 00:26:59.029 --> 00:27:02.819 idea. Or Yeah, exactly exactly where, and judge. Of course, 385 00:27:02.859 --> 00:27:06.779 judgment to say yeah, you know, I judicial term. We are absolutely 386 00:27:06.859 --> 00:27:08.180 and it, but we have lots of clues about how to do that in 387 00:27:08.259 --> 00:27:11.980 a way that is God honoring. Yeah, and of course, keep in 388 00:27:11.059 --> 00:27:15.569 mind this is not like, you know, in verse in Chapter Thirty One 389 00:27:15.609 --> 00:27:18.130 here didn't start out saying, yeah, this is a suggestion for you. 390 00:27:18.170 --> 00:27:22.730 You might want to follow this. This seems to be kind of a really 391 00:27:22.809 --> 00:27:26.329 in your face command. It's a declarative wing. See you speak. The 392 00:27:26.450 --> 00:27:30.920 you is is implied to speak for those who conso working without option. If 393 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.880 we'RE gonna the book of Wisdom, if we're going to walk in wisdom, 394 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:36.839 if we're going to try to please the Lord and do what we're called to 395 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:38.480 do and be what we're called to be as children of God, that we 396 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.359 have to open our mouth for the speaks, as Ye have didn't always means 397 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:47.069 just being aside wall counselor right or whatever. God can call you all kinds 398 00:27:47.109 --> 00:27:49.309 of ministries to speak for those who can't speak for themselves. But in particular 399 00:27:49.750 --> 00:27:53.190 we're called to speak for the unborn. Yeah, and and that whole idea 400 00:27:53.230 --> 00:28:00.339 of speak, speak it. It's not just your actions. You hear all 401 00:28:00.380 --> 00:28:03.059 the time from the pro choice people. Well, you don't have to have 402 00:28:03.140 --> 00:28:06.339 an abortion, you don't go get the abortion, you don't believe that abortion, 403 00:28:06.420 --> 00:28:10.900 don't don't go have one. But we are told to move a step 404 00:28:11.099 --> 00:28:17.609 further. We are to speak. We are not given the the allowance to 405 00:28:17.690 --> 00:28:19.609 be silent. What about? What about, I think this might be in 406 00:28:19.650 --> 00:28:23.730 the scripture, to where it says, you know, proclaim the Gospel, 407 00:28:23.730 --> 00:28:27.200 preach the Gospel always and, when necessary, use words. Ever heard that 408 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:32.599 is like that's a first one, am I one of my favorite. I 409 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:36.480 mean, I've heard that quoted to see John Wesley said that, Whitfield said 410 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.480 that, I think, saying Augustine might have said that. You know, 411 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:42.750 everybody attributes that because it's such a great humble phrase. Problem is it's not 412 00:28:42.950 --> 00:28:47.789 biblical. Now, preach the Gospel always and we necessary, use words. 413 00:28:48.390 --> 00:28:49.950 Preach the Gospel always, and what we say is, when necessary, use 414 00:28:49.990 --> 00:28:53.910 a megaphone, right, right. Pressing the Gospel actually requires you to open 415 00:28:53.990 --> 00:28:59.500 your mouth. Words. The Gospel is words, not just, you know, 416 00:28:59.859 --> 00:29:03.059 good deeds or just living a you know, a good life beside your 417 00:29:03.059 --> 00:29:06.619 neighbor. That you should do that, of course, but we need to 418 00:29:06.700 --> 00:29:08.259 open our mouth, we need to speak, we need to proclaim the Gospel. 419 00:29:08.259 --> 00:29:11.490 We need to speak for the unborn. Yeah, not just you know. 420 00:29:11.569 --> 00:29:15.130 Certainly prayer is is is vital. We need to be a people of 421 00:29:15.289 --> 00:29:18.849 prayer. But we're in front of an abortion center. We need to be 422 00:29:18.930 --> 00:29:22.769 praying and speaking. Now. There's certainly their ministries like love life, whose 423 00:29:22.809 --> 00:29:26.880 focus is to pray and we see them a sort of our our air support 424 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.880 in this battle, you know, in prayer. But we're getting folks from 425 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.400 them who are coming out and saying I got to take it beyond prayer and 426 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:34.640 I need to open my mouth. Yeah, and a lot of the really 427 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:41.230 beat they're really called Romans. Ten nine says proclaim with your mouth that Jesus 428 00:29:41.230 --> 00:29:45.869 is Lord. Yeah, and that's that's where the whole salvation message begins. 429 00:29:45.990 --> 00:29:49.470 Proclaim with your mouth. You there. You are called to a verbal action. 430 00:29:49.549 --> 00:29:53.420 If you believe something, if something is the most important thing on the 431 00:29:53.539 --> 00:29:57.299 earth, which is accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you're to proclaim 432 00:29:57.339 --> 00:30:00.539 it with your mouth. You're just speak it, and I think that entails. 433 00:30:00.579 --> 00:30:03.779 I think there's reasons for that. One is a witness. One is 434 00:30:03.940 --> 00:30:10.170 courage. That it the courage of your conviction, if your your spiritual conviction, 435 00:30:10.250 --> 00:30:14.289 because the word speaks these truths. If you have that in you, 436 00:30:14.809 --> 00:30:18.009 then you will not be silent. Isn't Jeremiah? That says I could not 437 00:30:18.250 --> 00:30:21.680 remain silent. It was like a fire, burning fire, shut up and 438 00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:25.400 shut up in my bones. He could not remain silent. He didn't want 439 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.240 it. He didn't want any more suffering. He was tired of the suffering. 440 00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:30.599 He had a he led such a horrible life, Poor Jeremiah. Yeah, 441 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:36.430 but but he could not remain silent and he's really a role model for 442 00:30:36.630 --> 00:30:40.150 me. I absolutely you know, let's jump ahead. Let's jump into that 443 00:30:40.230 --> 00:30:42.509 Romans chapter two. Okay, that's an important one. Yeah, this and 444 00:30:42.549 --> 00:30:48.910 guys go on Google, going your Bible App and search the word judgment and 445 00:30:48.029 --> 00:30:55.180 you're going to find consistently God does not condemn us making judgments, but he 446 00:30:55.259 --> 00:31:00.700 does condemn hypocritical judgment and judging with with dishonest weights and measures. Yeah, 447 00:31:02.220 --> 00:31:07.250 but Paul Deals really forthright lie in chapter two of Romans. Yeah, and 448 00:31:07.450 --> 00:31:11.569 it is again. It's about hypocritical judgment. And you said you wanted to 449 00:31:11.609 --> 00:31:14.450 sort of prod me a little bit about this the scripture. So well, 450 00:31:14.609 --> 00:31:17.369 do that. Well, yeah, well, you know, I was reading 451 00:31:17.410 --> 00:31:22.000 it and, truth be told, I took the easy verses, the supporting 452 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.880 what I truly believe scripture says, which is that we we should judge. 453 00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:30.440 But I do have to say Romans to kind of gave me again pause and 454 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.710 and when you read those first three verses, I'll let you read those. 455 00:31:36.029 --> 00:31:37.990 Okay. Well, I'm a I'm at a different I'm at Luke right now, 456 00:31:38.069 --> 00:31:41.910 but I can certainly turn to Romans. Hang on. Okay, so 457 00:31:42.109 --> 00:31:51.579 Romans too. All right, and these are will do just the first three 458 00:31:51.740 --> 00:31:56.700 verses. But you know, reading everything Romans to all the way through to 459 00:31:56.740 --> 00:32:00.970 the end of the chapter, I think is very will help, very helpful. 460 00:32:00.970 --> 00:32:06.009 But let's just read the first three. You therefore have no excuse, 461 00:32:06.569 --> 00:32:12.529 you who passed judgment on someone else for a for at whatever point you judge 462 00:32:12.569 --> 00:32:17.240 another, you are condemning yourself, because you, who pass judgment, do 463 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:23.079 the same things. Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such 464 00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:28.960 things is based on truth. So when you, a mere human being, 465 00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:34.829 pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you 466 00:32:35.029 --> 00:32:40.109 will escape God's judgments? Yeah, and you ultimately, when the Scripture says, 467 00:32:40.150 --> 00:32:43.509 and you know Paul again in First Conthians, chapter eleven, when he 468 00:32:43.549 --> 00:32:46.779 talks about judge yourself and you know not be judged. What he's talking about. 469 00:32:46.819 --> 00:32:51.180 Judge yourself and you'll not be judged of God. Like making an assessment 470 00:32:51.220 --> 00:32:54.019 of your personal behavior, rectify that behavior by the grace of God. You 471 00:32:54.140 --> 00:32:58.339 acknowledge that your sin, your sinful. You Need God's help to overcome that 472 00:32:58.500 --> 00:33:00.369 sin. And then you're not going to receive the hammer down from God. 473 00:33:00.569 --> 00:33:06.250 Right, right, because he's taking care of your judgment through what Jesus did, 474 00:33:06.329 --> 00:33:08.569 taking your judgment, your punishment on the cross when you have surrendered your 475 00:33:08.650 --> 00:33:13.480 sin. Yeah, if to yeah, and seem so often the this passage 476 00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.519 is taken out of context, just the portion that I wrote down, and 477 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:21.000 in and of itself that portion is hard to deal with. Foreign passing judgment 478 00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.880 on another, you condemn yourself. Yeah, and then they stop there. 479 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.150 But as we read on we understand. Well, he's not just saying any 480 00:33:30.430 --> 00:33:35.630 kind of judgment, will condemn yourself. He's saying a specific yeah, a 481 00:33:35.670 --> 00:33:37.630 judgment right. Yeah, well, he's talking about again, a hypocritical judge. 482 00:33:37.630 --> 00:33:43.220 Yea. You know the overarching theme of the book of Romans. It 483 00:33:43.420 --> 00:33:45.819 comes right out of Romans, Chapter One, Verse Sixteen. For I'm not 484 00:33:45.900 --> 00:33:49.500 ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to 485 00:33:49.579 --> 00:33:52.299 salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 486 00:33:52.819 --> 00:33:57.730 So Paul is addressing and you know, get theological and get too much 487 00:33:57.769 --> 00:34:01.410 into the breakdown of what this book means, but it's talking about you and 488 00:34:01.450 --> 00:34:06.690 gentile relationships in light of the new covenant. All through Romans he's addressing Jews 489 00:34:06.730 --> 00:34:09.159 at one point, then he addresses gentiles and he addresses Jews and he addresses 490 00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:13.960 gentiles. And here he's addressing, I believe, Jews, but because they're 491 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.239 judging these gentiles for their their pagan practices and they're pagan worship and even they're 492 00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:21.360 pagan background that they came out of some of those who are believers. Right, 493 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.989 and in Paul saying, listen, do you do the same stuff? 494 00:34:24.349 --> 00:34:29.670 Like you're judging them and you're doing the same stuff. You're judging them they're 495 00:34:29.710 --> 00:34:32.710 wrong. You have the commands and because you have the commands, you think 496 00:34:32.829 --> 00:34:37.309 that they're wrong for breaking the commands, when you yourself break the commands. 497 00:34:37.630 --> 00:34:42.139 So it's basically like again what Jesus said, judge not lest you be judged 498 00:34:42.179 --> 00:34:44.659 from the same measure. These to judge will be measured back to you. 499 00:34:45.059 --> 00:34:47.219 Yeah, you're going to be your God when you stand before God. If 500 00:34:47.219 --> 00:34:51.099 you have a standard and you're not willing to keep or able to keep your 501 00:34:51.139 --> 00:34:54.409 own standard, then don't try to put that standard on other people. Yeah, 502 00:34:54.889 --> 00:34:59.289 and that's what Paul's dealing with here in this particular passage. I believe, 503 00:34:59.329 --> 00:35:02.530 the big takeaway don't be a hypocrite. Yeah, that's why I mean 504 00:35:02.690 --> 00:35:08.840 that Jesus probably had his harshest words regarding hypocrites. Yeah, and hypocrisy. 505 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:15.880 So, yeah, and so again, as ministers of the Gospel, as 506 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:21.239 you know, Side Wall Counselors, as folks in a pregnancy center, as 507 00:35:21.630 --> 00:35:23.909 people, and whatever ministry, in particular per life ministry, you involved in. 508 00:35:24.510 --> 00:35:28.989 We need to make assessments of our own behavior. We need to, 509 00:35:29.230 --> 00:35:34.389 before the Lord, confess our sins for sake them, and and then we 510 00:35:34.550 --> 00:35:37.940 go out and we bring the Gospel, which is the the word of God, 511 00:35:38.059 --> 00:35:40.980 to those who are lost, the Gospel that we've received, Jesus said, 512 00:35:42.219 --> 00:35:46.179 freely. You have received, so freely give. But we can't just 513 00:35:46.260 --> 00:35:51.889 go out and cast out these hypocritical judgments about people because they're wrong and we're 514 00:35:51.969 --> 00:35:54.530 right. Only reason why we're right. We're never right. God's right. 515 00:35:55.130 --> 00:35:58.730 We just have agreed with him. And what we're trying to get people to 516 00:35:58.769 --> 00:36:02.289 understand it's God's word is right. It's true. We're not fantastic people because 517 00:36:02.289 --> 00:36:06.639 we've believed God's truth. It's only by His grace and His mercy that we've 518 00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:09.559 come to know this truth. We come to broadcast the Gospel. Yes, 519 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:15.519 to make judgments of behavior, but does also make a judgment of what God's 520 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:19.150 Word says, that if we turn to him, he will wash and forgive 521 00:36:19.230 --> 00:36:22.789 us from our sins and we could be made right with God. You know. 522 00:36:22.150 --> 00:36:27.750 Yeah, and so you we're called the judge. We're not called to 523 00:36:27.829 --> 00:36:30.550 be judgmental. I think that may be one of the biggest type of ways 524 00:36:30.750 --> 00:36:36.179 of right this particular power hypocrite. And so when someone says, well, 525 00:36:36.380 --> 00:36:42.460 because many, many people in the pro life movement are post abordim yourselves and 526 00:36:42.539 --> 00:36:45.380 that's that's what fuels a lot of their passion and the desire to please and 527 00:36:45.460 --> 00:36:50.849 obey God. But there's this background that that we know. It was destructive 528 00:36:50.969 --> 00:36:55.210 and horrific. And Yeah, and, and so I want to answer this 529 00:36:55.329 --> 00:37:00.409 question because I know it's in people's minds. Well, aren't you a hypocrit 530 00:37:00.530 --> 00:37:05.440 it? You had an abortion and here you are telling other people don't do 531 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:07.480 it. And I want to apply that same logic. Would they apply that 532 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:14.559 to Paul? Yeah, Paul Murdered Christians and Pete Jesus followers, and now 533 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:19.670 he's coming to people throughout, you know, the known world at that time 534 00:37:19.789 --> 00:37:22.989 and saying you need to turn to Jesus. Well, he would be the 535 00:37:22.110 --> 00:37:28.230 biggest hypocrite at all if you couldn't use a past that was destructive towards the 536 00:37:28.349 --> 00:37:32.940 very thing that you are now promoting. And so my destructive past is actually 537 00:37:34.820 --> 00:37:39.539 gives me an understanding that someone that doesn't have that past may not have. 538 00:37:40.420 --> 00:37:45.769 But the depth of destruction, yeah, that and so so. Not that 539 00:37:45.889 --> 00:37:50.650 I want it, but I have it. That is that is what I 540 00:37:50.849 --> 00:37:53.489 have, and to to offer to others is, yeah, don't do this. 541 00:37:53.769 --> 00:38:00.440 I've been there and so much of the most effective arguments against terrible behaviors 542 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:05.679 are from those who have engaged in them and been destroyed or nearly destroyed, 543 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.199 some of the biggest witnesses. You know, you have a friend WHO's next 544 00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.400 drug addict, right, and he is, you know, a witness and 545 00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.670 a testimony and God uses him to speak to other people who, right, 546 00:38:15.789 --> 00:38:20.309 are in drug addiction. Right. God rescued me from it, yeah, 547 00:38:20.349 --> 00:38:22.869 and and he can rescue you from it. Yeah, one of the pro 548 00:38:22.030 --> 00:38:27.460 boards as asked me, one of the pro choice like in the abortion Clin 549 00:38:27.539 --> 00:38:29.820 he asked me, I think it shared this one a previous podcast, but 550 00:38:29.900 --> 00:38:31.860 it's not wrong for me to share it again, right, and she said 551 00:38:31.900 --> 00:38:36.219 in particular about you. Yeah, she said Vicki's had an abortion. Isn't 552 00:38:36.219 --> 00:38:37.860 it hypocritical for her to come out here and tell these women not to have 553 00:38:37.900 --> 00:38:40.489 an abortion and she's had one herself. Yeah, and I said, you 554 00:38:40.570 --> 00:38:44.369 know what, there's there's some woods across the street at the abortion clinic and 555 00:38:44.409 --> 00:38:46.530 I said, imagine if I walk through those woods and there's a lot of 556 00:38:46.570 --> 00:38:49.570 snakes in those woods, and there actually are a lot of snakes. We 557 00:38:49.650 --> 00:38:52.369 seem like their four coppers are as here dangerous. And say I walk through 558 00:38:52.369 --> 00:38:55.760 those woods right there and I got bit by ten copper heads on my way 559 00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.840 through those woods and by God's grace, I pulled myself out of there, 560 00:38:59.960 --> 00:39:02.719 just drug myself out, called one one and when to the hospital, got 561 00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:07.760 all the Anti Venom. By God's mercy and grace, I'm alive. Get 562 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.309 back on my feet and I come out here and I stand in front of 563 00:39:09.309 --> 00:39:13.389 those woods and I scream with my hands waving back and forth, don't go 564 00:39:13.550 --> 00:39:16.269 in those woods and try to convince anyone that would come that way not to 565 00:39:16.389 --> 00:39:21.829 go in those woods. That be hypocritical or that be me actually loving people, 566 00:39:21.949 --> 00:39:23.619 because I've been in those woods. Yeah, and it ain't a good 567 00:39:23.659 --> 00:39:27.420 place to go. Right. You've been in those woods. Right, you've 568 00:39:27.460 --> 00:39:31.099 been in an abortion clinic. You've gone through that, you you've you've experienced 569 00:39:31.179 --> 00:39:36.460 the horror of what abortion can bring in a person's life. And you're just 570 00:39:36.579 --> 00:39:38.050 sort of that person standing in front of those woods and they had don't go 571 00:39:38.170 --> 00:39:42.409 that way. You're that person standing at the edge of that brink that people 572 00:39:42.409 --> 00:39:45.090 are falling off, for people are headed toward. You fall off and, 573 00:39:45.170 --> 00:39:47.690 my God's grace, you've you've gotten back up, yeah, from that Brink. 574 00:39:47.730 --> 00:39:51.849 Yeah, and you're telling people don't go that way. Yeah, you're 575 00:39:51.849 --> 00:39:54.719 not being judgmental. You're making a judgment, an assessment of behavior. Yeah, 576 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.719 but you're not judging them in the sense that you you hate them, 577 00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.639 you're angry with them, or you're being hypocritical, right. It would actually 578 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.429 be to claim that you love people and not to try to keep them from 579 00:40:07.469 --> 00:40:12.909 destructive behavior. Would actually be hippocrius. Yeah, and actually I am making 580 00:40:12.949 --> 00:40:17.309 a judgment on myself. Yeah, and that judgment was that was evil and 581 00:40:17.710 --> 00:40:23.539 wrong and horrific and barbaric, I mean every terrible adjective you could use. 582 00:40:23.980 --> 00:40:30.380 And and so, through that Voice of experience, you know, I can 583 00:40:30.420 --> 00:40:36.769 speak knowledgeably about this is wrong. I know it's wrong. I lived it 584 00:40:37.889 --> 00:40:42.730 and I know it's wrong because, ultimately, because the Bible tells me so. 585 00:40:43.090 --> 00:40:45.010 Yeah, all right, well, if you're if you're cool with that. 586 00:40:45.489 --> 00:40:47.650 Oh, you want to, you want to wrap it up before I've 587 00:40:47.650 --> 00:40:52.679 got three more. Okay, let's okay, let's go for it this one. 588 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.840 How is it that you don't know how to interpret the present time? 589 00:40:55.960 --> 00:41:01.920 Why don't you judge for yourselves, which is right? So again telling us 590 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:06.550 we have the power and should be able to judge. US This speaking the 591 00:41:06.550 --> 00:41:10.630 ourselves, Jesus is telling us to judge. That is actually that read letters 592 00:41:10.710 --> 00:41:15.190 there better. This is Jesus and Luke twelve and fifty seven telling us to 593 00:41:15.269 --> 00:41:20.019 judge. Then in Johndred and twenty four, stop judging by mere appearances. 594 00:41:20.420 --> 00:41:25.539 So he's telling us how not to judge, but instead judge correctly. And 595 00:41:25.619 --> 00:41:30.019 Geese as speaking in John Twenty Four. So we are to judge, judge 596 00:41:30.179 --> 00:41:36.769 with righteous judgment. Passage. They're correct. How about this? First Corinthians 597 00:41:36.809 --> 00:41:40.010 to fifteen. The person with the spirit makes judgments about all things. But 598 00:41:40.130 --> 00:41:45.809 such a person is not subject, for merely to merely human judgments. For 599 00:41:45.929 --> 00:41:47.840 who has known the mind of the Lord is to instruct him. But we 600 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.880 have the mind of Christ reminding US WE HAVE THE MIND of Christ if we 601 00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:58.840 are born again through the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit in 602 00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.510 dwells us. We have the mind of Christ and we can judge. We're 603 00:42:02.550 --> 00:42:07.550 not judging by human judgments, we're judging by Biblical judgment, Right, by 604 00:42:07.590 --> 00:42:10.630 Christ judgment. Yea, the Lord has given us not only again, the 605 00:42:10.949 --> 00:42:15.179 the right, but the charge to judge, and the judgments that we make 606 00:42:15.260 --> 00:42:20.579 are supposed to be for restoration, not to tear people down. Exactly. 607 00:42:20.619 --> 00:42:23.260 Yeah, you don't think a lot of it is rooted in, you know, 608 00:42:23.340 --> 00:42:27.380 as far as Christians not want to be judgmental, not want to be 609 00:42:27.460 --> 00:42:30.730 perceived as judge. Unfortunately, I think a lot of it's rooted in the 610 00:42:30.809 --> 00:42:35.170 fear of Man, is rooted in a desire to look good in the ass 611 00:42:35.210 --> 00:42:37.730 of the world and listen gas no matter what. If you want to live 612 00:42:37.769 --> 00:42:42.130 for God, if you're going to live for the Lord, you're going to 613 00:42:42.289 --> 00:42:46.760 be rejected by society. You're never going to be culturally quote relevant, and 614 00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:51.719 that's not the goal anyway. Our goal is not to be culturally relevant. 615 00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.000 Our goal is to be biblically relevant, to obey what God's word says, 616 00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:00.030 because God's words unchanging. The culture changes its opinions. Change doesn't mean we're 617 00:43:00.030 --> 00:43:02.630 completely out of the loop. It doesn't mean that we just, you know, 618 00:43:04.070 --> 00:43:08.349 are purposely culturally irrelevant, so to speak. The Gospel is cultural, 619 00:43:08.630 --> 00:43:14.420 culturally relevant. It's relevant to every culture. Has Been for two thousand years 620 00:43:14.619 --> 00:43:17.940 and changed hearts and minds and lives for twozero years. If it was relevant 621 00:43:19.019 --> 00:43:22.980 then, it's relevant now. And in the word of God tells us we 622 00:43:22.019 --> 00:43:28.210 should make judgments and based on those judgments, bringing the Gospel to help our 623 00:43:28.329 --> 00:43:31.889 brother remove the speck. The Gospel is like a pair of tweezers to help 624 00:43:31.969 --> 00:43:37.730 you get the speck out of your brother's eye. And so so we encourage 625 00:43:37.769 --> 00:43:39.969 you guys, you know, not just in prolife ministry, but wherever you 626 00:43:40.050 --> 00:43:45.519 are work, you business, home, whatever, bring the Gospel. Be 627 00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:50.360 An ambassador of Jesus, to bring the gospel of the Kingdom to all of 628 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.519 those who are lost and watch God do his work. 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