Dec. 18, 2019

The Incarnation of Jesus and What That Means For Prolife Ministry

The Incarnation of Jesus and What That Means For Prolife Ministry

During the Christmas season, we focus a lot on the birth of Jesus. It's amazing to think that the eternal God dwelt in human flesh but it's true.  Join Vicky and Daniel as they talk about the incarnation of Jesus and how that should affect our...


During the Christmas season, we focus a lot on the birth of Jesus. It's amazing to think that the eternal God dwelt in human flesh but it's true.  Join Vicky and Daniel as they talk about the incarnation of Jesus and how that should affect our view of preborn children.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours s and me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.949 Lord, I am yours. Welcome to the Gospel Center Pro Life Podcast, 3 00:00:11.150 --> 00:00:14.589 and this episode we're going to talk about the incarnation of Jesus and the Christmas 4 00:00:14.630 --> 00:00:18.149 story and what that has to do with pro life ministry. Hope you're blessed 5 00:00:18.230 --> 00:00:28.260 is you continue to listen, stay tuned. I felt show passish touch your 6 00:00:28.820 --> 00:00:36.409 heart. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. Micky and I are 7 00:00:36.450 --> 00:00:43.289 here just talking through some things about the incarnation of Jesus. It's Christmas time, 8 00:00:44.090 --> 00:00:46.770 it's the time that we celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savior, 9 00:00:46.850 --> 00:00:52.240 Jesus, and we thought that there are some theological and practical implications of the 10 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.799 incarnation of Jesus, some things that would bless you, guys, and some 11 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:58.679 scriptures that we're going to talk about that have to do with you know this. 12 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:03.399 You know what I had said was an unplanned pregnancy. Unplanned according to 13 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:07.950 according to Mary. She certainly didn't plan Jesus coming into her womb, right, 14 00:01:08.549 --> 00:01:12.310 but God did. So, yeah, there really are no unplanned pregnancies 15 00:01:12.430 --> 00:01:17.670 like ever, right according to God, but according to man there certainly are. 16 00:01:17.750 --> 00:01:19.299 We deal with those on a regular basis and those who are in pro 17 00:01:19.379 --> 00:01:23.340 life ministry. That's what you deal with, and unplanned pregnancies by but hopefully, 18 00:01:23.340 --> 00:01:26.019 as we as we talk through some of this that has to do with 19 00:01:26.060 --> 00:01:30.859 the Christmas story and the incarnation of Jesus, it'll have some application, thank 20 00:01:30.900 --> 00:01:34.849 you, will have some application to just your daily ministry in your walk with 21 00:01:34.930 --> 00:01:38.930 the Lord. So so let's hop into it. Yeah, well, I'll 22 00:01:38.930 --> 00:01:42.090 tell you when you introduce this subject and said, what do you think about 23 00:01:42.090 --> 00:01:48.760 talking about this? My understanding and how I view the Christmas story and the 24 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:56.120 birth of Jesus and his incarnation it has really changed over the past six years 25 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:01.510 as I have been very involved in in pro life ministry. So I look 26 00:02:01.549 --> 00:02:08.949 at I look at it with new eyes and I look and it colors even 27 00:02:09.150 --> 00:02:15.310 how I look at the women who are coming to abort their children. Okay, 28 00:02:15.669 --> 00:02:19.460 so I'm really glad that we're talking about this because I think it's I 29 00:02:19.580 --> 00:02:24.180 think it's a very important story, yeah, and truth for people in Pro 30 00:02:24.379 --> 00:02:28.620 Life Ministry to explore. Yeah, and think about. Yeah, I think 31 00:02:28.620 --> 00:02:32.930 if we just sort of best we can look back into history and look back 32 00:02:34.050 --> 00:02:37.689 into the story not just of Jesus, but the story of Mary herself. 33 00:02:37.770 --> 00:02:42.889 Yeah, I know one one movie that we've watched as a family past couple 34 00:02:42.930 --> 00:02:46.919 of years and on if you've watched this movie, but the Nativity story movie. 35 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:50.479 It's sort of a modern movie. I've when it was made in the 36 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.599 tooth. I haven't seen it, I've seen the advertisements. Yeah, yes, 37 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.039 should, because it really brings you back to that day and age. 38 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:00.069 I think they do a really good job of sort of laying out the historical 39 00:03:00.110 --> 00:03:04.469 picture of what it was like for Mary and what she experienced. You know, 40 00:03:04.669 --> 00:03:10.710 the Romans were there, had control over Israel and over Jerusalem and oppressing 41 00:03:10.789 --> 00:03:15.219 the people, and that was the historical context that was Mary, that Mary 42 00:03:15.340 --> 00:03:21.219 was in. Also the Jewish context there of what could potentially happen to an 43 00:03:21.259 --> 00:03:23.219 unwed woman who was pregnant. Yeah, and a lot of US know that. 44 00:03:23.300 --> 00:03:29.250 We've heard about. You know what what Mary must had suffered and must 45 00:03:29.370 --> 00:03:32.409 had at least been thinking about in the back of her mind while she's carrying 46 00:03:32.449 --> 00:03:36.409 this baby? Any what she may have been thinking about whenever the angel came 47 00:03:36.449 --> 00:03:40.050 to her and told her that she was going to conceive. Yeah, it 48 00:03:40.370 --> 00:03:46.520 can help us appreciate Mary and in a hundred way. Yeah, second price 49 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:52.000 that she made and willfully submitting. We'll probably get into that scripture, hopefully 50 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:54.710 in a little bit, about how she willfully submits herself to this plan of 51 00:03:54.830 --> 00:04:00.710 God and it can have some application to the some of the women that we 52 00:04:00.789 --> 00:04:03.469 deal with now quite a bit different than Mary herself because she was pure and 53 00:04:03.550 --> 00:04:06.030 she was a virgin, but some of the women that we deal with who 54 00:04:06.069 --> 00:04:10.740 are in difficult situations, she was in a difficult situation that we deal with 55 00:04:10.780 --> 00:04:14.620 her, in dire situations, yeah, mostly because of their own sin. 56 00:04:14.939 --> 00:04:17.699 She certainly was not in her situation because of her sin, but it can 57 00:04:17.779 --> 00:04:21.420 help us to because this is a real world scenario. Yeah, and in 58 00:04:23.420 --> 00:04:28.209 Biblical text especially, we're looking at a biblical stories. We can disconnect ourselves, 59 00:04:28.250 --> 00:04:31.730 I think, from the fact that these are real people with real struggles 60 00:04:31.769 --> 00:04:36.050 and to try to just take our minds back to that era and what she 61 00:04:36.170 --> 00:04:40.160 dealt with and kind of put ourselves in that scenario, I think is helpful. 62 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.600 Yeah, I s to Adnifi, with with I agree. I sudrive, 63 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:46.639 I'm working with a well, she's I'm no longer working with her. 64 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:50.839 She actually did not save her child. But a teen? Yeah, who? 65 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:55.470 Who would have been about Mary's age? Okay, and when I you 66 00:04:55.550 --> 00:05:00.430 know, and I kept thinking as I was reading through the the text, 67 00:05:00.470 --> 00:05:04.310 about when the angel came to Mary and how she responded and, like you're 68 00:05:04.310 --> 00:05:09.060 saying, the the context, the the world in which she lived, and 69 00:05:09.259 --> 00:05:16.540 then how the teen that that I was working with, how she responded to 70 00:05:16.860 --> 00:05:25.970 the struggles and and it made Mary more real to me and what happened in 71 00:05:26.209 --> 00:05:30.930 her life even more astonishing, and the decisions that she made because she was 72 00:05:31.050 --> 00:05:33.769 young, right. Yeah, I mean, what do they say? A 73 00:05:34.009 --> 00:05:39.000 young teen? Yeah, yes, some folks say thirteen, fourteen, maybe 74 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:43.120 fifteen years old. The scripture doesn't say exactly how old she was, but 75 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:46.120 the impasion is she was. Yeah, she was young. Yeah, but 76 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:51.629 we know she's she's betrothed. So she's engaged at to be married. She's 77 00:05:51.670 --> 00:05:57.509 a virgin. And can you imagine, I mean, being alone in your 78 00:05:57.629 --> 00:06:03.860 room and this stranger appears and an angel? But yeah, and I don't 79 00:06:03.860 --> 00:06:06.779 know if she knew it was an angel instantly. Maybe the text tells us, 80 00:06:06.779 --> 00:06:10.620 and I just don't remember, if initially she knew. Yeah, well, 81 00:06:10.699 --> 00:06:13.060 I didn't say that in particular. I'll read the text. Okay, 82 00:06:13.100 --> 00:06:15.740 let's do that and and we'll talk about okay, yes, is in Luke, 83 00:06:15.740 --> 00:06:20.449 chapter one, okay, and it says now in this is verse Twenty 84 00:06:20.490 --> 00:06:24.209 Six, Luke, Luke one hundred and twenty six is where we'll begin. 85 00:06:24.290 --> 00:06:27.769 Down the six month. The Angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city 86 00:06:27.810 --> 00:06:30.889 of Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was 87 00:06:30.970 --> 00:06:34.759 Joseph of the House of David. The Virgin's name was Mary and, having 88 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:38.319 come in, the angel said to her, rejoice, highly favored one, 89 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.040 the Lord is with you, blessed are you among women. But when she 90 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:45.759 saw him she was troubled at his saying, and consider what manner of greeting 91 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:48.470 this was. So seems maybe she didn't know it was an angel just so 92 00:06:48.589 --> 00:06:51.269 what are you thinking? Here's my first question. What she thinking? There's 93 00:06:51.269 --> 00:06:56.949 a strange man, yes, standing room saying you are highly favored. Yeah, 94 00:06:56.990 --> 00:07:00.110 well, at least he didn't, he didn't speak angrily to her, 95 00:07:00.110 --> 00:07:02.740 apparently. Yeah, highly favored. Since then the Lord said to her, 96 00:07:02.779 --> 00:07:05.139 do not be afraid, or the angel, I'm sorry, said to her, 97 00:07:05.180 --> 00:07:08.980 do not be afraid Mary, for you have found favor with God. 98 00:07:09.100 --> 00:07:12.899 Behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a son and she'll 99 00:07:12.939 --> 00:07:15.250 call his name Jesus. He will be great and he will be called the 100 00:07:15.490 --> 00:07:18.410 son of the most high, the Lord. God will give him the throne 101 00:07:18.449 --> 00:07:23.410 of his father David, and he will reign over the House of Jacob forever 102 00:07:23.610 --> 00:07:25.889 in his kingdom, of his kingdom. There will be no end. And 103 00:07:26.730 --> 00:07:29.129 then Mary said to the angel, how can this be, since I know 104 00:07:29.290 --> 00:07:32.120 no man? So here she has. He's having this exchange with this angel. 105 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.480 He's told her a lot of stuff. He's not just given her a 106 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:39.079 little a little picture of what's got. He's given her a sort of the 107 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:43.839 big picture. This this she's been given her that. He's even given her 108 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.870 the name of this son that you're going to conceive. And then this prophecy 109 00:07:46.910 --> 00:07:50.149 about him. He's going to rule over his people. That the you know. 110 00:07:50.949 --> 00:07:55.509 You know the Kingdom is of his kingdom there there's going to be no 111 00:07:55.629 --> 00:07:59.060 ends. You've got a king in your womb. Let me ask you. 112 00:07:59.379 --> 00:08:01.259 I honestly I don't know the answer. I hope you do, but don't. 113 00:08:01.300 --> 00:08:07.379 Would Mary have been well versed enough in scripture that would she have recognized 114 00:08:07.980 --> 00:08:13.170 that this was the angel was talking about the Messiah. You know, I 115 00:08:13.250 --> 00:08:16.889 don't know actually, because I know in that day and age, certainly they 116 00:08:16.970 --> 00:08:20.930 were Biblical text that were read and they study the scriptures. Jewish people were, 117 00:08:22.569 --> 00:08:24.610 you know, made to study the scriptures. Now, the peasants, 118 00:08:24.649 --> 00:08:28.319 I don't know that they would have had that sort of knowledge, and especially 119 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.279 a woman. In that day and age they did not sew a lot into 120 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.879 theologically and as far as the scriptures concerned, into women. It was mainly 121 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:41.789 men, young men were were trained in the scripture. But her being a 122 00:08:41.830 --> 00:08:43.789 peasant, her being a woman, she may not have. I don't know, 123 00:08:45.029 --> 00:08:48.789 maybe she would have. Presumably net right, presumably she would have. 124 00:08:48.110 --> 00:08:52.750 You know, she probably celebrated Passover. Yeah, and and so there certainly 125 00:08:52.950 --> 00:08:58.100 is. Anyone celebrating Passover knows that the Messiah's going to come. That's what 126 00:08:58.259 --> 00:09:03.460 they're they're waiting for. So I just I wondered that if because she doesn't 127 00:09:03.460 --> 00:09:07.940 ask anything, at least it's not recorded except one thing. How can this 128 00:09:09.100 --> 00:09:13.250 be done? Yeah, because I'm a virgin. She doesn't ask unless you 129 00:09:13.289 --> 00:09:16.490 would think if there were other questions it would have been recorded. Maybe not, 130 00:09:16.690 --> 00:09:20.409 but anyway, were you done reading the yeah, yeah, maybe we'll 131 00:09:20.409 --> 00:09:26.279 kind of kind of Pauls right there. And because there's another big why the 132 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:35.080 you know, why did God in in all the ways that he could have 133 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:41.710 sent the savior of the world to Earth? Why as a little baby in 134 00:09:41.830 --> 00:09:45.990 the womb? Yeah, that is a big question. You think about it, 135 00:09:46.070 --> 00:09:50.269 because as we think about Christmas and we think about and maybe the theology 136 00:09:50.309 --> 00:09:54.139 of Christmas or whatever, we might gloss over because we just this is the 137 00:09:54.179 --> 00:09:58.620 story that we know about RSIAH come. He came as a baby and whatever. 138 00:09:58.820 --> 00:10:01.379 Yeah, what we mayb don't put thought to. Could he have come 139 00:10:01.460 --> 00:10:05.100 other ways? I. Could the Messiah have come to this earth? You 140 00:10:05.179 --> 00:10:09.009 know, you mentioned, as we talked about this before, that Adam was, 141 00:10:09.769 --> 00:10:13.090 seems to be a full grown human being when he was put into this 142 00:10:13.250 --> 00:10:18.850 world. Right, right, could in the Messiah? Couldn't Jesus have come 143 00:10:18.970 --> 00:10:24.080 as just a full grown man? And I guess I don't see any theological 144 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:28.360 reason why he couldn't have. In the sense if that's what God intended, 145 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.480 if that's how the son of God was to come into the world, I 146 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.039 guess he could have. Right. He didn't. Yeah, he didn't. 147 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:37.470 So they're in. You know, we know nothings by accident. Right, 148 00:10:37.750 --> 00:10:41.110 God, God, the Eternal Plan of God. This is his plan and 149 00:10:41.470 --> 00:10:46.710 and I think it. Well, I guess we don't know. I think 150 00:10:46.830 --> 00:10:52.220 there are things that we can kind of guess from, you know, make 151 00:10:52.299 --> 00:10:56.179 educated guesses. Yeah, I from you digging in the scripture. We talked 152 00:10:56.179 --> 00:11:00.980 about some of these scriptures earlier and he brews. Hebrews is rich and full 153 00:11:01.179 --> 00:11:05.769 of verses that talk about the humanity of Jesus also about the divinity of Jesus. 154 00:11:05.850 --> 00:11:09.490 He brewises one of my favorite books of the Bible, and Hebrews Chapter 155 00:11:09.529 --> 00:11:13.850 Two, in verse fourteen, which is a scripture you mentioned to me earlier, 156 00:11:13.529 --> 00:11:16.730 and it says inasmuch as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, 157 00:11:16.809 --> 00:11:20.720 he's talking about human beings partaken a flesh and blood. He himself is talking 158 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:24.120 about the son of God. Is talking about Jesus here. If you read 159 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.440 that larger context, he himself likewise shared in the same the human flesh, 160 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:33.789 flesh and blood that through death he might destroy him who had the power of 161 00:11:33.950 --> 00:11:37.350 death, that is the devil. And we can rabbit trail on that and 162 00:11:37.509 --> 00:11:39.149 do a big thing logical discussion about that, but we won't do that. 163 00:11:39.230 --> 00:11:43.950 We'll keep reading that, maybe for another podcast or for a theological podcast with 164 00:11:45.070 --> 00:11:48.340 this is a this is a prolife podcast. That will try to keep it 165 00:11:48.419 --> 00:11:52.299 on that and release from those. This is verse fifteen, through fear of 166 00:11:52.419 --> 00:11:54.340 death, where all the life, all their lifetime, subject to bondage. 167 00:11:54.379 --> 00:11:58.379 For indeed, he does not give to aid to angels. So he didn't. 168 00:11:58.460 --> 00:12:01.850 He wasn't born of an angel or anything like that. He doesn't give 169 00:12:01.850 --> 00:12:05.610 aid to angels. He gives a the implication is to human beings. But 170 00:12:05.730 --> 00:12:09.850 he does give aid to the seat of Abraham. Therefore, in all things 171 00:12:09.889 --> 00:12:13.730 he had to be made like his brethren. He had to be made like 172 00:12:13.889 --> 00:12:18.080 his brethren in all things and all think that's critical. Yes, important thing 173 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:20.639 that is. That is an important point. That has especially as it has 174 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:24.679 to do with human beings, a human life and even conception, which will 175 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.320 look at him just a little bit, that he might be a merciful and 176 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:33.149 faithful high priests in things pertaining to God, to make propagation for the sins 177 00:12:33.149 --> 00:12:37.950 of the people, for in that he himself has suffered being tempted. He 178 00:12:37.070 --> 00:12:43.149 is able to aid those who are tempted. Then I believe this thought continues 179 00:12:43.269 --> 00:12:48.179 on even into chapter four here in a verse fifteen, and this is an 180 00:12:48.220 --> 00:12:50.379 important point. This is like, this is phenomenal to me. This, 181 00:12:50.659 --> 00:12:56.139 this, this fact that the eternal God would be a partaker of human flesh, 182 00:12:56.179 --> 00:13:01.409 would come in the filth, in the in the in just the depravity 183 00:13:01.250 --> 00:13:07.929 of human society and humanness is amazing to me and it shows the grace and 184 00:13:09.009 --> 00:13:11.250 the mercy of God. And in Verse Fifteen, this is part of that 185 00:13:11.409 --> 00:13:15.720 says, for we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our 186 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:18.759 weaknesses. Is talking about Jesus. So our high priest. He can sympathize 187 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:24.000 with our weaknesses. He's not so distant so far that he doesn't know our 188 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:28.190 struggles in the stuff that we're going through. But here's the power point here 189 00:13:28.750 --> 00:13:33.230 of Verse Fifteen. But was tempted, or was in all things tempted, 190 00:13:33.269 --> 00:13:37.990 as we are, yet without sins, all the stuff that we experience as 191 00:13:37.070 --> 00:13:43.220 temptations, he himself experienced, he submitted himself to those experiences. And again 192 00:13:43.259 --> 00:13:46.700 we can go on a theological rabbit trail, and it would be a good 193 00:13:46.700 --> 00:13:50.379 one, that's to talk about temptation and how Christ was tempted. How could? 194 00:13:50.539 --> 00:13:54.019 How could divinity be tempted? God can't be tempted. And we getting 195 00:13:54.019 --> 00:13:56.690 all that in their other podcast for that. Yeah, and people do with 196 00:13:56.769 --> 00:14:01.330 that. Subjects a good subject to deal with. But yeah, but what 197 00:14:01.490 --> 00:14:05.769 we're talking about is the humanity that Jesus took on. Yeah, and the 198 00:14:07.049 --> 00:14:11.960 experience that he had in temptation, but also the experience that he had in 199 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.600 the womb, in the womb, and that's where, you know, my 200 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:18.440 thoughts have really gone and since we started thinking about this is okay, so 201 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:24.909 he's in the womb and conceived. The angels said that Mary would conceive right, 202 00:14:26.389 --> 00:14:31.230 and and so you know, presumably from the moment of conception, Jesus 203 00:14:31.830 --> 00:14:35.110 is in the womb. Yeah, and you know, develops as any baby 204 00:14:35.350 --> 00:14:41.620 in the womb develops. And what there is a reason for that. We 205 00:14:41.779 --> 00:14:45.740 don't necessarily know the reason, but we know God has a reason for that. 206 00:14:46.100 --> 00:14:50.100 And you know, some of the thoughts that went through my mind was, 207 00:14:50.779 --> 00:14:54.210 well, number one, that there are experiences in the womb that are 208 00:14:56.129 --> 00:15:01.889 essential, yeah, to being human and and that Jesus, if he was 209 00:15:01.009 --> 00:15:07.960 going to be, what was the word all that, that he was in 210 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:13.120 all things that he became like us. Yeah, then that includes whatever these 211 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:18.440 developmental things going on in the womb that are critical for whatever, for whatever 212 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:24.389 reason, so that he could fully identify with us. And so it, 213 00:15:24.830 --> 00:15:28.990 you know, for part of the reason, I think, is explained in 214 00:15:30.029 --> 00:15:33.269 the text, so that he would fully identify with us. But I think 215 00:15:33.350 --> 00:15:39.620 something that you can you can surmise based on this, is that God values 216 00:15:41.299 --> 00:15:45.460 that unborn child. Yeah, why would he have brought his own son to 217 00:15:45.659 --> 00:15:54.129 Earth as an unborn child unless there was value and an importance in that unborn 218 00:15:54.169 --> 00:16:00.809 child and the experience, yeah, the womb. And it's in such sharp 219 00:16:00.929 --> 00:16:07.200 contrast to to what we see the the value placed on the unborn child in 220 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:14.000 an abortion minded world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, world. I mean 221 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:18.320 it's a culture of death that we live in, where sort of abortion for 222 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:22.710 some people is the default position. Yeah, I mean, could you see 223 00:16:22.870 --> 00:16:26.909 Mary saying well to the Angel, you know? Well, you know, 224 00:16:27.350 --> 00:16:33.539 it sounds like you mean well, and I understand. You know, maybe 225 00:16:33.620 --> 00:16:37.860 you need a good vessel to carry the baby Jesus in. But do you 226 00:16:37.940 --> 00:16:42.059 know my situation? Right? I'm unmarried, I'm poor, I've got neighbors 227 00:16:42.100 --> 00:16:45.259 who might stone me for finding me pregnant. I mean that was a real 228 00:16:45.259 --> 00:16:48.049 danger. It was a real dangerous she could have died, she could have 229 00:16:48.090 --> 00:16:53.289 been killed for adultery. The betrothal in that day was the same as as 230 00:16:53.450 --> 00:17:02.080 marriage in terms of faithfulness to, you know, to your betrothed and and 231 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:06.039 you know this young team. What were her parents going to say? So 232 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:14.160 you know the she faced some terrible, terrible things and and and she she 233 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:18.789 still didn't challenge the angel and say God must have it wrong. Yeah, 234 00:17:18.829 --> 00:17:25.109 in contrast to so many of the an abortion minded woman, yeah, who 235 00:17:25.230 --> 00:17:27.670 is saying? This is the thing? Stay here, you say this statement 236 00:17:27.750 --> 00:17:32.940 here in Luke Chapter One, because yet you do have that attitude. We're 237 00:17:32.980 --> 00:17:37.900 dealing with abortion mind of women's almost like and on, since they recognize that 238 00:17:37.099 --> 00:17:40.700 God doesn't make mistakes, because we ask them and they say, well, 239 00:17:40.980 --> 00:17:45.049 no, but stakes God. But in this situation I think maybe he missed 240 00:17:45.089 --> 00:17:47.809 it. You know, it's kind of what what they're saying when they're when 241 00:17:47.809 --> 00:17:49.769 they're willing to take the innocent life of their baby, even though they know 242 00:17:49.890 --> 00:17:55.450 that it's wrong. Right. There's almost no abortion minded woman that I've encountered 243 00:17:55.890 --> 00:17:57.880 that, at least in some measure, didn't agree that abortion is wrong. 244 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:03.079 It's wrong, but there's always that but attached to it. Right, yeah, 245 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:07.000 but here in the story, in Luke Chapter One, as the angel 246 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:11.839 gives this, you know, this proclamation of what a what's going on? 247 00:18:12.630 --> 00:18:18.269 And but what does Mary say? She says in Verse Thirty, in Verse 248 00:18:18.349 --> 00:18:21.789 Thirty Seven, it says for with God. This is as after she asks, 249 00:18:21.829 --> 00:18:23.990 how is it possible that I can conceive, because I've never been with 250 00:18:25.069 --> 00:18:27.619 a man like I don't understand how this is going to work. But she 251 00:18:27.700 --> 00:18:33.460 doesn't argue no, because the angel answers for God, with God, nothing 252 00:18:33.740 --> 00:18:37.579 will be impossible. Then Mary said, behold the maid, servant of the 253 00:18:37.700 --> 00:18:41.730 Lord. Basically, I'm your servant. You know, if you say that's 254 00:18:41.970 --> 00:18:47.609 the right, that's God's plan, then I'm beholding to it. Let it 255 00:18:47.769 --> 00:18:51.650 be to me according to your word. Let it be to me according to 256 00:18:51.730 --> 00:18:55.529 your word. One of the most beautiful lines in sure picture, I think. 257 00:18:55.759 --> 00:19:00.119 Well, so to to not rabbit trail but to debunking idea that I've 258 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:07.480 heard. Some of our pro abortion friends says like God raped Mary. Even 259 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.430 heard that. That is I have. I have so ridiculous. It's like, 260 00:19:10.910 --> 00:19:15.150 okay, how blasphemous and how how irreverent, if for you even to 261 00:19:15.230 --> 00:19:21.309 sacre even say that right. But the fact is that married submitted herself to 262 00:19:21.430 --> 00:19:23.460 this by her own volition. The plan was laid out. The Angel didn't 263 00:19:23.500 --> 00:19:26.539 just come and say you're already pregnant and blah, blah, Blah Blah, 264 00:19:26.539 --> 00:19:30.180 and he said here's what's going to happen, right, and it's possible. 265 00:19:30.220 --> 00:19:33.779 I mean, we don't see any reason. There's no reason to believe that 266 00:19:33.859 --> 00:19:37.099 she would have been against this plan, because obviously God knew he was picking 267 00:19:37.259 --> 00:19:41.809 right. Her heart was prepared beforehand and whatever. But she says, let 268 00:19:41.809 --> 00:19:45.690 it be according to your will. She is bowing her wheel to the will 269 00:19:45.730 --> 00:19:48.170 of God. She said, if that's God's plan, on submit myself to 270 00:19:48.289 --> 00:19:52.680 it. So this idea that sort of God took advantage of her or something 271 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:57.240 like that, is utterly ridiculous. She, of her own volition, submitted 272 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:03.559 herself to the plan of God. She showed completely her faith was beautifully displayed 273 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.630 in her trust. Yeah, and her trusted. Okay, let it be 274 00:20:07.750 --> 00:20:11.710 done to me. I don't understand it. I'm sure there was part of 275 00:20:11.829 --> 00:20:14.390 her that was thinking, I'm not sure I like it. Because there's a 276 00:20:14.390 --> 00:20:17.509 lot of scary stuff I'm going to face, but let it be done to 277 00:20:17.549 --> 00:20:22.460 me, as you have said. So that the the true, the absolute 278 00:20:22.539 --> 00:20:27.180 trust, that that it was going to be okay. Yeah, that she 279 00:20:27.460 --> 00:20:32.259 needed and wanted to submit to the will of her heavenly father. And this 280 00:20:33.299 --> 00:20:37.130 remarkable. Yeah, it's markable. It's amazing, especially again considering the scenario 281 00:20:37.289 --> 00:20:40.769 there and what could have happened to her. She could have been stoned to 282 00:20:40.809 --> 00:20:44.690 deaths you could have been rejected by the people who she loved the most, 283 00:20:44.769 --> 00:20:48.410 or family and whatever, even by Joseph. We see it was a certainly 284 00:20:48.529 --> 00:20:51.119 temptation for Joseph, even though he was a humble man. He was going 285 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:52.640 to put her away secretly. He's going to divorce her, you know, 286 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:57.599 break off the the betrothal secretly. But, but, but, it, 287 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:02.519 that indicates that he didn't believe her at first. Right, he clearly didn't 288 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:06.670 believe her. I assume she went and said this angel gave to my room 289 00:21:06.789 --> 00:21:10.349 and and this is what he told me. Well, you know, again, 290 00:21:10.430 --> 00:21:15.829 putting yourself in that situation, who would believe that? I wouldn't believe 291 00:21:15.910 --> 00:21:18.460 that, sure, man. Yeah, right, yeah, so he didn't 292 00:21:18.740 --> 00:21:22.859 initially and then what happens in angel comes to him, right, yeah, 293 00:21:22.180 --> 00:21:26.420 dream is a matter of fact. Actually are one of our pastors preached on 294 00:21:26.539 --> 00:21:30.099 this last Sunday where he talked about, you know, how God can speak 295 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:33.809 through dreams, and God spoke to Joseph. It says that the Lord came 296 00:21:33.890 --> 00:21:37.650 to him in a dream. Yeah, and and told him this plan. 297 00:21:37.930 --> 00:21:41.849 Yeah, and then Joseph again shows the trust and the faith that that this 298 00:21:42.289 --> 00:21:47.799 revelation to him through the dream is is true, yeah, and that he 299 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:52.640 then is going to take on this incredibly difficult situation. Yeah. Well, 300 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.720 I'll read the passage jays Matthew and verse, Chapter One, Verse Twenty. 301 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:00.119 But while he thought about these things, where he's talking about putting a her 302 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.509 away, secretly backing off the betrothing. But while he thought about these things, 303 00:22:03.549 --> 00:22:07.349 behold an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying 304 00:22:07.430 --> 00:22:11.150 Josephs of Joseph, Mary was in this struggle, right, she was in 305 00:22:11.230 --> 00:22:12.750 the struggle in her heart of this plan and how's this going to happen? 306 00:22:12.829 --> 00:22:17.940 And Oh, this anxiety involved in her, but also there's some anxiety involved 307 00:22:17.980 --> 00:22:21.940 in Joseph. was. You don't just get that he's he finds out about 308 00:22:22.059 --> 00:22:25.180 this, that she's pregnant, and it's like, okay, that's a bad 309 00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:27.660 thing and he moves on. No, he's wrestling with he's struggling, he's 310 00:22:27.660 --> 00:22:33.250 probably having a hard time sleeping at night because he loved this woman and in 311 00:22:33.410 --> 00:22:37.809 one sense it's going to put him to shame because he's accused probably of having 312 00:22:37.849 --> 00:22:41.890 had sex with her prematurely, before they actually were married, in the midst 313 00:22:41.890 --> 00:22:44.559 of the Betrothal, with the back, which of would have been shameful as 314 00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:48.400 right. Yeah, so he's accused of that. Possibly he's also thinking, 315 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:52.599 okay, who's been with my betrothed? Right, because I'm not the father 316 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:56.160 he has, and so there's a lot going on in his mind, right. 317 00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:59.910 He still obviously is a humble man, because he could have called it 318 00:22:59.990 --> 00:23:03.549 for her to be stoned immediately, but he didn't. So he's contemplating these 319 00:23:03.589 --> 00:23:07.309 things as he thought about these things. That's what it says that angel came 320 00:23:07.349 --> 00:23:11.670 to him and dream saying, Joseph, son of David, do not be 321 00:23:11.789 --> 00:23:17.059 afraid to take Mary to you're you're not be afraid to take you mary, 322 00:23:17.220 --> 00:23:21.220 your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit 323 00:23:21.940 --> 00:23:23.660 and she will bring forth a son and you will call his name Jesus, 324 00:23:25.259 --> 00:23:32.130 for he will save his people from their sins. And so God reaffirms Joseph 325 00:23:32.170 --> 00:23:36.210 in the midst of this unplanned pregnancy, unplanned for Mary and for Joseph, 326 00:23:37.490 --> 00:23:40.410 speak to him in a dream, the reaffirming this plan, that this is 327 00:23:40.490 --> 00:23:45.440 God's plan. It's unconventional according to man, but it's God's way and it's 328 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:49.640 God's plan. Yeah, and it's what the whole Christmas story centers around. 329 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:52.720 Yeah, yeah, which is Awesome Plan of God. Yeah, and it 330 00:23:53.119 --> 00:24:00.390 follows a we mentioned this be earlier, that it follows God's kind of the 331 00:24:00.430 --> 00:24:06.190 way he works throughout the Bible is he chooses. He seems to in many 332 00:24:06.230 --> 00:24:15.259 cases choose the weakest, the most vulnerable nation people to promote his purpose. 333 00:24:15.299 --> 00:24:19.259 Yeah, and and I think Mary is a perfect example. Yea, that, 334 00:24:19.579 --> 00:24:22.900 yes, we were talking this through. You mentioned, you know, 335 00:24:22.019 --> 00:24:26.930 God could have chosen a queen. Yeah, I to have, yeah, 336 00:24:26.369 --> 00:24:30.650 Gina Palace and all the things that you would need and all the baby supplies 337 00:24:30.730 --> 00:24:36.609 you'd need and, you know, gold studded diapers and whatever. But you 338 00:24:36.690 --> 00:24:38.359 know, he this was a baby born to a poor family that had to 339 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:41.799 be wrapped in swaddling close so there's no room, and could have chosen to 340 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:45.799 for the s I had to come, you know, in as a full 341 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:49.640 grown man. I guess he could have chosen, if he was going to 342 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:53.670 choose the baby route, he could have chosen to have this baby born in 343 00:24:53.710 --> 00:25:00.990 a palace and all this. So our wisdom and conventional wisdom is oftentimes not 344 00:25:00.230 --> 00:25:04.190 God's. With them, it's not God's will. Often in front of the 345 00:25:04.230 --> 00:25:10.140 abortion center, do be here it I can't have this baby. My situations 346 00:25:10.220 --> 00:25:14.900 too terrible. It's not the right time. Yeah, and contrast that to 347 00:25:15.819 --> 00:25:18.740 marry. Well, it is their situation really any worse than Mary's and most 348 00:25:18.819 --> 00:25:25.289 cases, honestly know, but ails in comparison, because very few would be 349 00:25:25.289 --> 00:25:30.809 under threat of being stoned at that's for sure. So you know another interesting 350 00:25:30.849 --> 00:25:36.960 passage that you're probably none. Yeah, let's we're not stone and I'm we 351 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:41.559 guarantee. But but you know at right after Mary and Joseph, Well, 352 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.680 Mary has this encounter with the angel then, I think it's in Luke one 353 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:52.710 hundred and forty four where, and it says that she hurries to her cousin 354 00:25:52.750 --> 00:25:59.349 Elizabeth. It uses the word hurries after this. And and look at what 355 00:25:59.430 --> 00:26:03.230 happens in that passage because because, I think again, it's so much speaks 356 00:26:03.309 --> 00:26:07.619 to me as someone in pro like ministry. Okay, for indeed, as 357 00:26:07.660 --> 00:26:10.259 soon as the voice of this is a luke one hundred and forty four, 358 00:26:10.380 --> 00:26:14.299 for indeed, soon is the voice of your greeting sounded in my ears, 359 00:26:14.380 --> 00:26:17.380 the baby leaped in my womb for joy. So this is Elizabeth, this 360 00:26:17.500 --> 00:26:22.289 is Mary. Had hurried to her cousin Elizabeth's House and she's pregnant with Jesus 361 00:26:22.329 --> 00:26:26.849 at that point. Elizabeth is pregnant with John The baptizer at that point, 362 00:26:27.250 --> 00:26:32.690 and when she heard Mary's Voice, the baby apparently heard the voice to and 363 00:26:32.769 --> 00:26:36.400 leaped in the whom the babe leaped in the womb? So a lot of 364 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:40.240 things. First of all, she hurries to Elizabeth, and actually it was 365 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.799 actually my sister that mentioned this to me, that you know, Elizabeth is 366 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:48.549 here with basically an unplanned pregnancy herself. Yeah, right, she was. 367 00:26:48.750 --> 00:26:52.269 She was very surprised to because she was old. Yeah, and so she 368 00:26:52.910 --> 00:26:56.869 didn't think that child bearing years were over. Yeah. So look at the 369 00:26:56.910 --> 00:27:02.220 contrast here. Yeah, there's Mary, who's really too young, not married 370 00:27:02.579 --> 00:27:06.099 and totally not thinking I want to have a baby. And then there's Elizabeth, 371 00:27:06.140 --> 00:27:10.180 who's past childbearing years, who's old, and who finds herself in this 372 00:27:10.299 --> 00:27:17.250 unplanned or unexpected, yeah, pregnancy. And and they come together and the 373 00:27:17.529 --> 00:27:23.809 two babies, unborn babies, two of the most pivotal, important babies in 374 00:27:25.009 --> 00:27:27.329 history. Yeah, right. We've got John The baptist. Yeah, Jesus 375 00:27:27.329 --> 00:27:30.599 said of John the Baptist that he was the greatest, greatest of all the 376 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:36.039 prophets. So there's no man born that was greater than John The baptist. 377 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:40.319 That was Jesus testimony later on in his ministry. And he's coming as an 378 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:47.509 unborn baby also. Yeah. And and so here's this unborn John The baptist, 379 00:27:47.549 --> 00:27:52.630 who is going to Harold the coming of the Messiah, and then the 380 00:27:52.990 --> 00:27:56.390 baby Jesus. And what happens when they meet? And I know there's a 381 00:27:56.430 --> 00:28:03.779 meme out on facebook now which is the first person to greet our Lord and 382 00:28:03.940 --> 00:28:07.859 Savior was an unborn baby. Yeah, it was John the Baptist in the 383 00:28:07.980 --> 00:28:12.250 womb of his mother, Elizabeth. And what does he do? He the 384 00:28:12.369 --> 00:28:18.569 Scripture says, he leaps for joy. Yeah, and Elizabeth describes the baby 385 00:28:18.769 --> 00:28:25.450 as leaping for joy in her womb. That to me they clearly a little 386 00:28:25.490 --> 00:28:33.319 unborn baby is described as having emotion, yeah, and leaping for joy and 387 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:38.559 greeting the savior of the world, another unborn baby, and there's some obviously 388 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:44.349 the the scripture says there's a recognition, yeah, be in these two babies, 389 00:28:44.750 --> 00:28:51.789 unborn babies. Yeah. So that to me is like just again speaks 390 00:28:51.869 --> 00:28:57.299 of God's sacred value of the unborn child and that there's a lot going on 391 00:28:57.460 --> 00:29:03.140 in that womb. That that some of which we do know and and some 392 00:29:03.339 --> 00:29:07.700 of which we probably don't know. Yeah, you know, one of the 393 00:29:07.700 --> 00:29:12.210 things that speaks to you. We've mentioned before, I believe in previous podcast. 394 00:29:12.329 --> 00:29:18.730 We're sort of given an apologetic for what the Bible says about unborn children. 395 00:29:18.769 --> 00:29:22.089 We mentioned the scripture. We mentioned that word that used here, the 396 00:29:22.170 --> 00:29:26.599 Greek word that used in verse forty four. The Babe leaped in the womb. 397 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.359 That Greek word for babe. What's the Greek word? Breafos, Brefsos, 398 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:36.039 and that word is also used in other passages to describe unborn children, 399 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.549 but also born children. So the Bible does not make a distinction, just 400 00:29:38.670 --> 00:29:41.309 like we don't. We say it's a baby. When we look at an 401 00:29:41.349 --> 00:29:45.710 ultrasound, that's a baby, right, and when we hold an infant, 402 00:29:45.789 --> 00:29:48.390 we say that's a baby. Right. It's a word that sort of we 403 00:29:48.470 --> 00:29:51.630 use for all those things. Well, in fact, go back to I 404 00:29:51.710 --> 00:29:53.539 mean you don't have to turn back there, but think about what the angel 405 00:29:53.700 --> 00:29:59.500 said. To marry, you will conceive a son, yeah, right, 406 00:29:59.579 --> 00:30:04.099 yeah, a son, not a Zygoat, yeah, not a Gambria, 407 00:30:04.299 --> 00:30:07.890 not, not an embryo, not a clump of cells, but he gave 408 00:30:08.009 --> 00:30:15.450 personhood to that unborn baby. Yeah, from the earliest moment, you will 409 00:30:15.490 --> 00:30:18.730 bear a yeah, son. Yeah, you will conceive a son. So 410 00:30:18.890 --> 00:30:22.000 it wasn't she would bear a son. Right, she would conceive, right, 411 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:25.200 a son. Yeah. So that that at its smallest. Yeah, 412 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.920 that sort of brings brings it around in my mind, to a question that 413 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.839 we talked about before we started the podcast, which is when did Jesus take 414 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:36.230 on human flesh? And I think this is an important point. Yeah, 415 00:30:36.269 --> 00:30:40.349 it's like the son of God is going to come and the likeness, as 416 00:30:40.390 --> 00:30:44.230 the Bible says in those at Philippians, and likeness and the likeness of sinful 417 00:30:44.269 --> 00:30:48.829 flesh he's going to come. Well, when did he take on this likeness 418 00:30:48.869 --> 00:30:52.859 of human beings? Yeah, when did the son of God become human? 419 00:30:55.539 --> 00:30:59.099 And if we were to go and one train of thought, who he became 420 00:30:59.220 --> 00:31:02.779 human? When he was born, right when he passed through the birth canal, 421 00:31:02.940 --> 00:31:06.250 and that's when his humanity was was in dued on him. That's one 422 00:31:06.329 --> 00:31:11.250 train of thought. But I think the obvious biblical train of thought is at 423 00:31:11.289 --> 00:31:14.250 the moment of conception. I think that's what the angel says. When the 424 00:31:14.329 --> 00:31:18.480 angel says conceive a son, I think at conception you will conceive and that 425 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.599 is your son. Yeah, and that is Jesus, and that is when 426 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:27.839 the eternal son of God. He's got to recognize in in the scriptural context, 427 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:33.390 that there is within the Godhead, the Trinity, the Father, Son 428 00:31:33.509 --> 00:31:38.069 and Holy Spirit, all three, or coeternal code, equal in power and 429 00:31:38.190 --> 00:31:44.430 in glory and in Majesty. Each has a different role, right, the 430 00:31:44.470 --> 00:31:48.019 Holy Spirit has his role, the son has his role and the father has 431 00:31:48.099 --> 00:31:52.740 his role, but the son of God, in his role, comes in 432 00:31:52.980 --> 00:31:59.740 human flesh. The Jesus exists eternally, right, he always is. He's 433 00:31:59.779 --> 00:32:02.410 not a created being, right. Yeah, he's not a creature. He 434 00:32:02.569 --> 00:32:09.609 is the eternal Sun, and so he existed in eternity forever. But yet 435 00:32:09.890 --> 00:32:15.680 his humanity began in the womb of Mary. His humanity, him taking on 436 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:22.480 human flesh, happened at the moment of conception, right yeah. And then 437 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:28.000 we see in the Scripture and that Hebrews Chapter two passage, that he took 438 00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.670 on this sinful flesh of that he might are not sinful flesh in the likeness 439 00:32:30.710 --> 00:32:36.710 of sinful flesh, right, but he was a partaker of flesh and blood, 440 00:32:36.950 --> 00:32:39.750 as it says at Hebrews passage, so that he threw death. So 441 00:32:39.910 --> 00:32:44.819 his his flesh, he took on so that he could ultimately lay it down 442 00:32:44.859 --> 00:32:47.059 and die. Right yeah, so that he could destroy him who had the 443 00:32:47.140 --> 00:32:50.940 power of death, and the Bible says that that is the devil, and 444 00:32:51.059 --> 00:32:54.500 also so that he can identify with our humanity. Right right. So I 445 00:32:54.819 --> 00:32:57.940 don't know where, where and when we want to get into this, but 446 00:32:57.980 --> 00:33:00.650 it's I think I just a really was a good time. Wonderful. Point 447 00:33:00.930 --> 00:33:07.490 is also at the moment of conception, and I think this is fairly recent 448 00:33:07.609 --> 00:33:12.009 that scientists have discovered that and they've got pictures of it. At the moment 449 00:33:12.089 --> 00:33:16.119 of conception. Conception, a meet sperm and there's a flash of light in 450 00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:21.880 the WOMB. Yeah, a flash of light. So you know, as 451 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:23.519 I was thinking about that and looking at the pictures, and there's pictures, 452 00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:30.190 you can absolutely can see these pictures of this. Well, what is Jesus 453 00:33:30.430 --> 00:33:34.549 called? He's called the light of the world, light of the world. 454 00:33:34.710 --> 00:33:38.670 And when God what was the first words? Well, among the first words 455 00:33:39.029 --> 00:33:44.259 that God said, as he's creating the universe, let there below, let 456 00:33:44.339 --> 00:33:49.859 there be light. And so, you know, here's the the the conception 457 00:33:50.259 --> 00:33:55.289 of the savior of the world is, is a spark of light. Presumably, 458 00:33:55.809 --> 00:33:59.730 if that's true, of all babies as they're born in the womb or 459 00:33:59.769 --> 00:34:05.450 as they're conceived in the womb, and and so, you know, again, 460 00:34:05.809 --> 00:34:14.280 to me it speaks again of their that moment of conception was supremely wonderful 461 00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:23.199 and all that follows to birth is is wonderful and sacred and and so important. 462 00:34:23.789 --> 00:34:29.789 And then coming to the moment of birth is, you know, again, 463 00:34:30.110 --> 00:34:35.269 the probably the pivotal physical event in a human beings life. You're born, 464 00:34:35.550 --> 00:34:39.579 you physically enter, you leave the womb and enter the world, and 465 00:34:40.860 --> 00:34:46.340 and and in so much of the Bible. Nearly every physical event has a 466 00:34:46.539 --> 00:34:53.650 spiritual parallel, and you look at that. The the description of when we 467 00:34:53.809 --> 00:34:59.690 come to faith. Is Born again, John Chapter three, and listen, 468 00:34:59.809 --> 00:35:01.929 and is born again, feign against see the Kingdom of God. Yeah, 469 00:35:02.210 --> 00:35:06.969 the scripture that comes to mind is in John, the Gospel John, in 470 00:35:07.050 --> 00:35:10.480 Chapter Fourteen. It starts out verse one. Many of you guys probably know 471 00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:14.360 this passage. In the beginning was the word, and the word was with 472 00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:17.440 God and the word was God. So obviously showing the divinity of this one 473 00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:22.670 who's called the word, which is obviously Jesus. And it talks about light 474 00:35:22.750 --> 00:35:25.030 in verse five and John Chapter One. The light shines in the darkness and 475 00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:29.349 the darkness does not comprehend it. So that's along the lines of what what 476 00:35:29.469 --> 00:35:31.909 you're saying. He was, he was the true light that came into the 477 00:35:31.949 --> 00:35:36.659 world. In verse fourteen that it says the word became flesh, HMM, 478 00:35:36.780 --> 00:35:39.139 and dwelt among us. We beheld his glory, the Glory as of the 479 00:35:39.260 --> 00:35:43.019 only begotten other father, full of grace and truth. So this word, 480 00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:47.099 this this eternal word, who was with God and was God, who, 481 00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:52.210 Bible says, all things were made through him and without him, nothing was 482 00:35:52.329 --> 00:35:57.010 made. That was made so through the eternal Sun all things were created. 483 00:35:57.050 --> 00:36:01.610 All things, all creation, flowed from this uncreated son of God. But 484 00:36:01.769 --> 00:36:07.639 the word, this word became flesh, he took on flesh, and I 485 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:12.320 think that says a couple of things. It says that God is willing to 486 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:16.760 enter in to our humanity, to enter into our experiences. So that's one 487 00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:21.269 thing. It enter into our mess. Yeah, man enter and enter into 488 00:36:21.309 --> 00:36:24.429 a sinful and deprave the world. But the second thing it says is that 489 00:36:24.550 --> 00:36:29.750 God values human beings enough to do that. Right, because he didn't do 490 00:36:29.949 --> 00:36:32.500 it, as we reread in that Hebrews passage, for God does not give 491 00:36:32.820 --> 00:36:36.380 for he did it for the the the the Sun. I think the word 492 00:36:36.420 --> 00:36:39.099 is does not give aid to angels. So it doesn't mean that God doesn't 493 00:36:39.099 --> 00:36:43.019 care about angels, but it's what it's talking about. In in a salvific 494 00:36:43.179 --> 00:36:47.690 way. God does not intervene on behalf of angels, he doesn't, but 495 00:36:47.809 --> 00:36:52.369 he does on behalf of fallen human beings. He intervenes. He intervened in 496 00:36:52.570 --> 00:36:55.130 such a way that he became one of us. He didn't become an angel. 497 00:36:55.489 --> 00:37:00.769 Right, Jesus is not an angel when never was an angel, regardless 498 00:37:00.809 --> 00:37:05.960 of what some false religions like who is, who's witnesses teach that he's Michael, 499 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.280 the Archangel. Yes, not what the Bible teaches, that he's the 500 00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:15.429 eternal son that took on that became human flesh. Right, and and so 501 00:37:15.510 --> 00:37:19.989 it again, it does show us the humanity or the value of humanity. 502 00:37:20.510 --> 00:37:24.789 It shows us God's willingness to come and to be a partaker in what we 503 00:37:24.989 --> 00:37:30.019 experience so that we can have, as it says in Hebrews. Later on 504 00:37:30.099 --> 00:37:36.260 it says we have a high priest that can sympathize with our weakness. He 505 00:37:36.739 --> 00:37:43.619 knows the stuff that we're going through. HMM, which is massively comforting for 506 00:37:43.699 --> 00:37:45.969 us to know that this eternal God who, who, the Bible says, 507 00:37:45.969 --> 00:37:52.289 dwells an unapproachable light, who was holly unapproachable in the sense that he is 508 00:37:52.650 --> 00:37:58.130 majesty and His glory will feel the earth, but he stoops down, becomes 509 00:37:58.170 --> 00:38:00.519 a human being and allows us to approach him. Yeah, it allows us 510 00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:04.639 to come into his presence and have fellowship. But yeah, yeah, and 511 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.440 you know, another thought that just came to me as you were speaking was 512 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:13.510 God, we are made in the image of God and one of God's most 513 00:38:13.750 --> 00:38:16.829 obvious attributes is as creator. He created the universe, he created all life, 514 00:38:16.869 --> 00:38:29.500 he created us. And when we conceive children and there's this life growing 515 00:38:29.619 --> 00:38:36.340 within us and then eventually this life comes forth into our actual world outside of 516 00:38:36.420 --> 00:38:44.289 the womb, I think we have a small taste of what it is to 517 00:38:44.690 --> 00:38:52.250 create and to create something as miraculous as life. We don't create it right. 518 00:38:52.409 --> 00:38:58.119 We conceive that that child God is the creator of all life, but 519 00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:04.679 I think it gives us kind of a little bit of an understanding of the 520 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:10.190 magnificence of God, because I don't know really any woman who has given birth 521 00:39:10.510 --> 00:39:16.110 who has not described it as utterly miraculous. It is miraculous. It is 522 00:39:16.190 --> 00:39:20.510 what brought me to the Lord. Honestly, was was the birth of my 523 00:39:21.110 --> 00:39:25.860 first son Onders that made me recognized there has to be a God. And 524 00:39:27.019 --> 00:39:30.500 so I gues again. I going back to why. Why? I know 525 00:39:30.659 --> 00:39:35.019 God usually doesn't answer wise, nor do I need this answered, but it's 526 00:39:35.059 --> 00:39:39.530 something that's kind of interesting to think about. Why did he bring Jesus to 527 00:39:40.250 --> 00:39:45.090 to Earth as an unborn child and and to a moment of birth? And 528 00:39:46.889 --> 00:39:54.800 I think that that might be part of the answer is understanding and us being 529 00:39:54.840 --> 00:40:00.840 able to understand a little bit more about God. Yeah, yeah, well, 530 00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:06.480 you know, I think maybe, hopefully you guys have your listening have 531 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.670 joined in some of our ramblings and are going on about the Christmas story and 532 00:40:09.710 --> 00:40:14.989 about the Majesty of God and the Mercy of God coming in the likeness of 533 00:40:15.110 --> 00:40:17.110 sinful flesh. Hopefully this has been a blessing to you. I want to 534 00:40:17.150 --> 00:40:22.179 end out, though, with a you know, the holidays, Christmas time, 535 00:40:22.900 --> 00:40:27.980 is it awesome time to proclaim the Gospel. Picture is and this passage 536 00:40:28.260 --> 00:40:31.699 in Luke in chapter two, as I share with you this is one of 537 00:40:31.739 --> 00:40:36.969 my favorite of all time passage of scripture. It's very, very short, 538 00:40:37.130 --> 00:40:40.489 so it's easy to memorize and it's in Luke Chapter two, in verse fourteen, 539 00:40:40.489 --> 00:40:45.170 and this is the proclamation of the heavenly host of the angels, and 540 00:40:45.289 --> 00:40:50.239 here's what they say. Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace, 541 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.920 goodwill toward man. And when I read that scripture, actually I get 542 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:59.119 till bumps a lot because I think about when we see God in the Bible, 543 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.440 when we see the majesty is a described earlier the majesty, The holiness 544 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:08.309 of this God, this God who made everything, and this God who would 545 00:41:08.309 --> 00:41:13.670 be perfectly justified in, you know, wiping us all out. He did 546 00:41:13.710 --> 00:41:15.630 it in one time. He did it with with the story of Noah and 547 00:41:15.710 --> 00:41:20.219 his family and save them, but wiped out the rest of humanity, and 548 00:41:20.380 --> 00:41:23.460 he was perfectly justified in doing so. No one's his accuser. He did 549 00:41:23.539 --> 00:41:27.139 wrong, he did evil. People try to be as accuser. He's God, 550 00:41:27.739 --> 00:41:31.460 he made everything. Yeah, he has the the authority over everything. 551 00:41:31.539 --> 00:41:34.969 Right, and when his creation rebelled, agains him of that time. He 552 00:41:35.250 --> 00:41:39.130 wiped him out and it seems, though, in that story, even God's 553 00:41:39.170 --> 00:41:43.130 will was a good will toward man. He makes the ark big enough. 554 00:41:43.210 --> 00:41:46.400 Every human being could have fitted that thing and he offers. Noah was a 555 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.719 preacher who offered, appealed, it seemed. He built this art for a 556 00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.320 hundred, twenty years in the middle of the desert as a testimony of the 557 00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.000 people. They could have come in and got salvation, but they didn't. 558 00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.960 That ark was just a picture, though, the foreshadowing of Jesus, who 559 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.389 would be the Ark of salvation for all of humanity that would come into him. 560 00:42:05.349 --> 00:42:08.550 And we see God through bringing Jesus into this earth as the savior. 561 00:42:08.630 --> 00:42:12.750 Yeah, that was the proclamation of the angel that came to marry. He 562 00:42:12.869 --> 00:42:15.630 will save his name will be Jesus, he will save them, as the 563 00:42:15.710 --> 00:42:19.059 proclamation the angel that came to Joseph. His name will be Jesus, for 564 00:42:19.179 --> 00:42:22.739 real save his people from their sins. We see in the Christmas story this 565 00:42:23.260 --> 00:42:27.860 glory to God in the highest. So God is glorified in this story, 566 00:42:28.980 --> 00:42:31.530 but through his peace on earth and goodwill toward man, that he has a 567 00:42:31.650 --> 00:42:36.650 good desire for lost humanity. And Yeah, I think some of the Jews 568 00:42:36.690 --> 00:42:39.769 at the time of Jesus miss the point that God's good will was not just 569 00:42:39.849 --> 00:42:44.760 toward the Jewish people but toward all men, that all men would come into 570 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:49.800 this this relationship with God through Christ and could be saved. Yeah, but 571 00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:53.559 we see in this the disposition of God towards humanity, toward lost, depraved, 572 00:42:54.199 --> 00:43:00.349 sinful humanity. was good that, he said, the savior into the 573 00:43:00.469 --> 00:43:04.670 world, Jesus says, the son of men comes to seek and to save 574 00:43:05.150 --> 00:43:07.710 that which is lost. And so as we go through this Christmas season and 575 00:43:08.550 --> 00:43:14.219 we might buy presents and put up our Christmas tree and all of that and 576 00:43:14.460 --> 00:43:21.340 celebrate Christmas and Christmas time and be with family. We cannot forget God's desire 577 00:43:21.739 --> 00:43:23.460 toward all human beings to be saved. We can't forget, when we're with 578 00:43:23.539 --> 00:43:28.610 our family and people who are lost, to share with them the hope of 579 00:43:28.769 --> 00:43:31.289 Jesus Christ. We did a podcast some weeks ago about how to share with 580 00:43:31.329 --> 00:43:34.889 your family members. If you haven't listened to that, go back and listen 581 00:43:34.929 --> 00:43:37.889 to that, because I think it will be massively helpful during this season to 582 00:43:37.929 --> 00:43:42.119 share with your family members. But yeah, don't forget the reason. It's 583 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:45.320 become a Cliche, the reason for the season. 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