April 16, 2020

The Body of Christ Worked Together to Save A Baby

The Body of Christ Worked Together to Save A Baby

The Bible tells us that the Body of Christ has many different parts. Each member has it's own function and the goal is to bring glory to Christ. Join Vicky and Daniel as they share a story of how the body of Christ worked together to help a struggling...


The Bible tells us that the Body of Christ has many different parts. Each member has it's own function and the goal is to bring glory to Christ. Join Vicky and Daniel as they share a story of how the body of Christ worked together to help a struggling couple choose life.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:09.949 Lord, I am. You're welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. 3 00:00:10.310 --> 00:00:14.189 This episode we share a story of how the body of Christ work together to 4 00:00:14.349 --> 00:00:18.510 help a couple that chose life, to help meet their needs and ultimately bring 5 00:00:18.550 --> 00:00:26.179 glory to Jesus as they chose life. Stay tuned. I felt show passis 6 00:00:27.339 --> 00:00:38.490 touch your heart. Use Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. We 7 00:00:38.649 --> 00:00:42.649 hope you guys are just blessed as your listen to the different episodes that we 8 00:00:42.770 --> 00:00:46.609 put out and hope this podcast is a blessing to you. Do want to 9 00:00:46.609 --> 00:00:54.359 encourage everyone to share our podcasts and or leave us review and whatever podcast APP 10 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:59.359 or source that you use. Certainly those reviews and thinks can help us get 11 00:00:59.960 --> 00:01:03.000 what we're trying to do and get our message out there more broadly. So 12 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.909 we appreciate those who do share. Just encourage those who don't to share. 13 00:01:07.150 --> 00:01:11.430 All Right, YEP, today we're going to talk about how God uses the 14 00:01:11.549 --> 00:01:18.430 body of Christ. It's something we've experienced in in pro life ministry and it's 15 00:01:18.469 --> 00:01:25.540 really encouraging to see different components of ministry and just the Church using its its 16 00:01:25.620 --> 00:01:30.420 giftings and using its resources to come together the right and to help out in 17 00:01:30.299 --> 00:01:36.250 the situations that we deal with on a daily basis. Now you'd mentioned some 18 00:01:36.409 --> 00:01:41.450 of this discouragement. Certainly if you're involved in ministry, those who are listening, 19 00:01:41.609 --> 00:01:45.049 and you're involved, especially in ministry at an abortion clinic, there's a 20 00:01:45.090 --> 00:01:49.319 level of discouragement that comes. Yeah, because you're like, they're killing babies 21 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:53.439 in this place. Where's the church? Here in Charlotte we're you know, 22 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:57.680 we have four abortion clinics now here in Charlotte. One thousandree hundred churches in 23 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:02.590 the Greater Charlotte area and those are, you know, the Bible believing churches. 24 00:02:02.670 --> 00:02:06.390 That doesn't include, you know, the ones who are not really churches. 25 00:02:06.510 --> 00:02:08.990 You know, you know what I mean, and it can be discouragement 26 00:02:09.310 --> 00:02:14.349 or discouraging sometimes when we're out there and there's, you know, four or 27 00:02:14.389 --> 00:02:16.659 five people and it's like where's the church? Should be a massive people, 28 00:02:16.659 --> 00:02:21.860 it should be thousands of people. I know there's some sidewalks and other cities 29 00:02:21.939 --> 00:02:23.340 where there's no one, there's no one out there. At least we have 30 00:02:23.419 --> 00:02:27.500 four or five. Yeah, yeah, and you know, of course we 31 00:02:27.659 --> 00:02:30.729 have had thousands of people. We praise God. It's taken some years of 32 00:02:30.889 --> 00:02:34.849 plowing and all of that that we've done and we've you know, we've seen 33 00:02:36.250 --> 00:02:40.650 thousands of people show up in one Saturday before through our partner ministry love life. 34 00:02:40.770 --> 00:02:45.759 We praise God for that. So but it just kind of, I 35 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:50.319 guess, voicing the the discouragement that can come. You know, as you 36 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:53.680 talked about scriptures that have to do with the discouragement of filling all along, 37 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:57.520 immediately came to mind. Scripture that many of you guys know, or at 38 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:00.229 least a story that many of you guys know. We've talked about before, 39 00:03:00.310 --> 00:03:04.150 is the story of Elijah and how Elijah felt like he was all along. 40 00:03:04.430 --> 00:03:07.990 You know, there's just me and God reminded him. You know I've got 41 00:03:07.110 --> 00:03:12.939 seven thousand others right who've not bowed the need to bail, who are serving. 42 00:03:13.139 --> 00:03:15.780 So you know, it can be discouraging, it can feel lonely. 43 00:03:15.060 --> 00:03:20.819 Sometimes we're on the sidewalk or we're ministering in a capacity, trying to, 44 00:03:21.860 --> 00:03:24.620 you know, stand against abortion and it's like where's the church at? But 45 00:03:24.780 --> 00:03:30.169 this podcast is to encourage you that the church is doing something and there are 46 00:03:30.330 --> 00:03:35.530 different components that you know as the body of Christ, are being used to 47 00:03:35.969 --> 00:03:39.129 to save lives, to bring the Gospel and to help out in these different 48 00:03:39.169 --> 00:03:43.560 situations that we encounter at the abortion centers. Right. Yeah, and I 49 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:52.840 will admit to being pretty selfrighteous, honestly, about I'm here on the sidewalk 50 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:59.870 frequently during the week and and where is everybody, and kind of feeling like 51 00:04:00.710 --> 00:04:04.150 superior. Yeah, you know, like I must be a really good Christian 52 00:04:04.189 --> 00:04:10.539 because because I'm out here and and I think the Lord is really convicting me, 53 00:04:11.180 --> 00:04:15.259 that that's a jerky way to feel, first of all, and and 54 00:04:15.460 --> 00:04:20.339 that that maybe I needed to reevaluate. And and so of course there's great 55 00:04:20.379 --> 00:04:27.370 scripture to talk about the the body, yeah, yeah, of the church. 56 00:04:27.970 --> 00:04:32.009 And Yeah, you know, there's reason why in the scriptures one of 57 00:04:32.050 --> 00:04:38.009 the most, if not the most used term to refer to the church is 58 00:04:38.410 --> 00:04:41.720 the body of Christ. Yeah, there's a reason why, yeah, that 59 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:46.160 it's not just some term that that sounds cool, but it speaks to something, 60 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:50.560 it speaks to a reality that God intend and that God intended when he 61 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:56.709 established his church. And this is First Corinthians, chapter twelve. Yeah, 62 00:04:56.829 --> 00:05:00.870 that's the scripture you've got down there, right. Yeah, and it speaks 63 00:05:00.910 --> 00:05:03.350 of the body of Christ. It says, for as the body is one 64 00:05:03.470 --> 00:05:08.660 and has many members, but all members of that one body, being many, 65 00:05:08.699 --> 00:05:13.620 are one body. So also is Christ. So he's talking about the 66 00:05:13.740 --> 00:05:16.699 body. Are Physical Body. How there's a bunch of components to this body, 67 00:05:17.540 --> 00:05:20.180 and you know, we have arm, we have we have arms, 68 00:05:20.970 --> 00:05:25.209 we have legs, we have fingers and toes and eyes and nose and all 69 00:05:25.250 --> 00:05:28.649 that stuff. And he's equating that to the body of Christ. So just 70 00:05:28.810 --> 00:05:30.889 like your body has different components and members and they make up one body, 71 00:05:31.209 --> 00:05:35.680 so does Christ. Body has different components who make up this one body, 72 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:40.720 the body of Christ. And it's goes on to say, for about one 73 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:44.360 spirit. We all baptize into one body and whether Jews or Greeks, of 74 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:48.000 these divisions that were there no longer there in Christ. He goes on to 75 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:53.589 say, for if, in fact the body is or in fact the body 76 00:05:53.709 --> 00:05:56.350 is not one member but many, for if the foot should say, because 77 00:05:56.350 --> 00:05:59.470 I am not a hand, I'm not of the body, is therefore not 78 00:05:59.589 --> 00:06:00.670 of the body. If the ear should say, because I am not an 79 00:06:00.709 --> 00:06:03.269 eye, I'm not of the body, is that therefore not a body. 80 00:06:03.339 --> 00:06:08.019 So he's talking about these different components to the body. Point is that these 81 00:06:08.100 --> 00:06:12.540 things no one is more important than the other, and that's what we're you 82 00:06:12.620 --> 00:06:15.259 know, we need to put ourselves in check as sidewalk counselors who are really, 83 00:06:15.259 --> 00:06:18.290 you know, in a lot of ways, on the front lines, 84 00:06:18.810 --> 00:06:24.009 the front of the front lines of the abortion battle, because we're right there 85 00:06:24.290 --> 00:06:28.449 where abortions take place. Yeah, and we start thinking, well, we're 86 00:06:28.689 --> 00:06:32.639 somehow more important or we're somehow, you better Christians, yeah, than other 87 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:36.759 people who are doing other things. That's when, you know again we need 88 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:41.199 to put ourselves in check and understand that, after all, it's not US 89 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:46.120 anyway, it's not our calling, it's God's calling and we, by His 90 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.230 grace alone, have answered that calling. And it's all about him anyway. 91 00:06:50.310 --> 00:06:53.910 I mean, that's really what it bows down to. It's not about a 92 00:06:54.029 --> 00:06:57.949 particular ministry, it's not about cities for life, it's not about, you 93 00:06:58.029 --> 00:07:00.579 know, sidewalk counseling ministry, none of that. It's about Jesus, and 94 00:07:00.699 --> 00:07:06.019 we're just a part of the body that's doing the work that he's called us 95 00:07:06.060 --> 00:07:09.980 to do. Right, and all of us are valued. Every single part 96 00:07:10.019 --> 00:07:13.339 of that body is valued in the end, specifically in that verse, in 97 00:07:13.420 --> 00:07:20.529 those verses they the seemingly less important and covered parts like your toes, yeah, 98 00:07:20.730 --> 00:07:26.569 each your hand. You know, those are all mentioned to remind us 99 00:07:26.689 --> 00:07:30.680 there they are all of value. They all have a part and those parts 100 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:34.560 are different and there might be bigger parts, were smaller parts, just as 101 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:41.560 in the physical body, but all those parts need for the body to work 102 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.870 as a whole. All those parts have to be doing their job. Yeah, 103 00:07:45.870 --> 00:07:50.750 yeah, and so we certainly need as sidewalk counselors and as people. 104 00:07:50.870 --> 00:07:55.910 I mean, maybe you're listening and you minister to abortion minded women at a 105 00:07:55.990 --> 00:08:00.980 pregnancy censer. We need to understand our place. We need to understand, 106 00:08:01.100 --> 00:08:05.259 yes, the importance of what we do. All right, I guess I 107 00:08:05.779 --> 00:08:09.180 get the weight and the importance of what we do a sidewalk counselors. It's 108 00:08:09.259 --> 00:08:13.490 one of the reasons why, you know, through, and we've talked about 109 00:08:13.490 --> 00:08:16.569 this in previous podcast, through the stayathome order and all the things going on 110 00:08:16.689 --> 00:08:20.370 with the coronavirus, then we were really, you know, standing our ground 111 00:08:20.449 --> 00:08:24.250 and we're not back in a way and just saying okay, we'll stay at 112 00:08:24.250 --> 00:08:28.399 home. We understand the the vital nature of what we're doing that we are 113 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.840 the last voice, oftentimes that little baby is going to get. So we 114 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.399 understand that. We need to understand our place and we need to understand our 115 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:41.320 importance, but also understanding our place in our importance, knowing that that comes 116 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.549 from Christ. And then there are other people. I mean right now we're 117 00:08:43.590 --> 00:08:50.230 seeing really just the church rally in, the different life ministries and stuff, 118 00:08:50.230 --> 00:08:56.580 rallied together all the more through this crisis where we're seeing, you know, 119 00:08:56.740 --> 00:09:01.659 a pregnancy censer that we talked about, who they've shut their doors. They 120 00:09:01.700 --> 00:09:05.659 had to make a decision to close down because of different things with their organization 121 00:09:05.820 --> 00:09:11.049 and all of that through this coronavirus thing. But they're referring patients to the 122 00:09:11.210 --> 00:09:13.769 mobile unit that's parked in front of the abortion center. Of course, we've 123 00:09:13.970 --> 00:09:16.889 we've, you know, as functioning as the body of Christ connected together, 124 00:09:16.889 --> 00:09:18.809 we've made a decision to move the mobile unit of the street a little bit 125 00:09:18.889 --> 00:09:22.690 so they're not actually coming down toward the abortion clinic. So, you know, 126 00:09:22.769 --> 00:09:26.399 we're making changes in the body is working together and it's really cool to 127 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:31.399 see that it is functioning the way that I think God designed for it. 128 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.080 Is and I know in past podcast one of the things that we talked about 129 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:41.789 was how distressing it is sometimes that we're not hearing pastors speaking about abortion. 130 00:09:41.830 --> 00:09:46.269 Yeah, and even that I believe that. I still believe that. But 131 00:09:46.750 --> 00:09:52.860 I know that for me, just hearing a sermon that maybe it's not directly 132 00:09:52.940 --> 00:10:00.179 related to abortion, but it's something that energizes me for the Lord and gives 133 00:10:00.220 --> 00:10:05.820 me courage, strength reliance on God, I do take that immediately to the 134 00:10:07.019 --> 00:10:09.570 sidewalk. There are many sermons. So we had a sermon a couple of 135 00:10:09.610 --> 00:10:16.889 weeks ago about the miracles of Jesus, but one of the lines in that 136 00:10:18.370 --> 00:10:20.840 Merman was talking about the shortest line in the Bible. Jesus wept and that 137 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:26.240 that was what stayed with me as I went to the sidewalk and I used 138 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:30.240 it speaking over the microphone, because it really yeah, because it really struck 139 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:37.070 me and energize me. So even when a pastor is not specifically speaking about 140 00:10:37.070 --> 00:10:43.110 abortion, he is still contributing to the body of people who are on that 141 00:10:43.269 --> 00:10:50.220 front line in that it's a motivator and encourager, a a spiritual guidance. 142 00:10:50.259 --> 00:10:56.059 Yeah, for me and kind of so it helps me to really begin to 143 00:10:56.139 --> 00:11:03.179 to be more grateful for all Christians and and the contribution of all of these 144 00:11:03.330 --> 00:11:07.610 people in very different, different ways. Yeah. Absolutely. So one of 145 00:11:07.649 --> 00:11:13.169 the one of the things that really struck me as I was preparing for this 146 00:11:15.289 --> 00:11:22.559 was how often the women that we see right at that last moment before they're 147 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.200 going to choose life or death at the abortion center, their needs are so 148 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:35.509 great, and how often there are multiple ministries, dozens sometimes ministries, resources 149 00:11:35.669 --> 00:11:43.789 donations that have come from different parts of the Christian body in the community that 150 00:11:43.070 --> 00:11:48.220 have helped us to be able to council their that woman towards life. And 151 00:11:48.539 --> 00:11:52.340 we couldn't do that. If we could, we could certainly share the gospel. 152 00:11:52.379 --> 00:11:56.620 Yeah, we could offer the things that we in our own ministry can 153 00:11:56.740 --> 00:12:01.970 offer, like the baby shower, but there's so many things that we wouldn't 154 00:12:01.009 --> 00:12:05.889 be able to offer, yeah, if those other Christian ministries weren't active. 155 00:12:05.929 --> 00:12:11.690 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean you talking about anything from like maternity 156 00:12:11.769 --> 00:12:16.879 homes and prenatal care, that sort of thing that you know, we don't 157 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.440 have the ability to do that. Right. We don't have maternity home, 158 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.360 but there are maternity homes out there, right. Yeah, we have connected 159 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.759 women with, and that's those are just vital resource. I mean, you 160 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.549 got a young lady, and we've encountered it many times, who's coming to 161 00:12:31.590 --> 00:12:35.909 the abortion clinic who really, in her mind and her heart, abortion would 162 00:12:35.909 --> 00:12:39.629 be the furthest thing away from her mind and from her heart, but she 163 00:12:39.830 --> 00:12:43.299 feels like she has no other choice but to go and have an abortion because 164 00:12:43.299 --> 00:12:46.980 she's going to be kicked out her boyfriends, that nick threatened to kick her 165 00:12:46.059 --> 00:12:50.779 out, or parents or whatever. And when you can hand her off to 166 00:12:50.940 --> 00:12:54.139 a maternity home. That's again, that's the body of Christ working together and 167 00:12:54.419 --> 00:13:00.210 coming together under the banner of Jesus, you know, under the head Jesus, 168 00:13:00.730 --> 00:13:05.529 and seeing these needs met. Yeah, it's awesome to see. Yeah, 169 00:13:05.610 --> 00:13:09.809 I had a woman a few I don't know, a week ago, 170 00:13:09.970 --> 00:13:13.559 something like that, who maybe we could use as kind of a case study. 171 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.519 Yeah, yeah, those are always good stores. Is share through not 172 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.240 just what like in theory could happen, but what actually did happen. This 173 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.279 is a is a great story. Yeah, yeah, lay that out. 174 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:31.710 So this, this woman was came to us through the pregnancy resource center. 175 00:13:31.789 --> 00:13:37.870 The closed. Yeah, they closed. They contacted the nurse from Monroe help 176 00:13:37.990 --> 00:13:43.059 pregnancy resource center. Yeah, that nurse contacted me and said we're going to 177 00:13:43.100 --> 00:13:48.340 bring this woman out to the mobile ultrasound unit in front of the abortion center. 178 00:13:48.980 --> 00:13:50.940 I'm going to be the nurse. Could you counsel? So right there 179 00:13:52.059 --> 00:13:56.769 we've got three different bodies of the Lord. Yeah, operate different members of 180 00:13:56.850 --> 00:14:00.090 that body. Yeah, right, that's right. Yes, that's what I 181 00:14:00.129 --> 00:14:01.649 meant to say, because they're not three. We're all part of the one 182 00:14:01.730 --> 00:14:05.929 body. They're different parts of them. Get into sire. You've got the 183 00:14:05.169 --> 00:14:09.759 original PRC. That's closed, but they're open for calls. They're taking calls, 184 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.840 so they're still doing their part. Through the coronavirus. They refer them 185 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:20.279 to help pregnancy resource center, who sends the Mobile RV out to to the 186 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:26.669 abortion center. They provide the nurse and then cities for life provided the counselor 187 00:14:26.110 --> 00:14:33.629 so there's three parts of the of the body right there. So the the 188 00:14:33.789 --> 00:14:39.659 woman had base just almost every significant issue you could have. Yeah, which 189 00:14:39.740 --> 00:14:43.259 is why she's a great case study, and this is a true story. 190 00:14:43.860 --> 00:14:48.580 The obstacles that she faced on I'll list them. Okay. There was damaged 191 00:14:48.700 --> 00:14:52.460 relationship with the father the baby, which is very common. Oh, yeah, 192 00:14:52.820 --> 00:14:58.850 one way or another. A yeah, job concerns, again increasingly common 193 00:14:58.049 --> 00:15:07.679 now, especially Lee with coronavirus, financial concerns, prenatal health concerns. She 194 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:16.000 specifically said my stability. So faith and stability concerns, feelings of isolation and 195 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:22.190 fear of being all alone, childcare concerns and inability to obtain or pay for 196 00:15:22.389 --> 00:15:26.070 the many things a new baby would need. So and when I counsel I 197 00:15:26.190 --> 00:15:30.230 will say, well, what brings you here? Can you list? List 198 00:15:30.350 --> 00:15:33.389 them. Yeah, this was the list. Who gives me? Yeah, 199 00:15:33.149 --> 00:15:39.019 pretty heavy list. It's a heavy list and and I have to say, 200 00:15:39.259 --> 00:15:43.700 though, that the longer I do this, the more I realize first of 201 00:15:43.700 --> 00:15:50.450 all, God will provide. Yeah, but every one of these needs was 202 00:15:50.649 --> 00:15:56.049 met by a different part of the body of Christ. Yeah. So, 203 00:15:58.929 --> 00:16:06.159 so we already said there was the the pregnancy resource source center that that sent 204 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:10.399 her to, as Monroe help pregnancy resource center, the scenographer or nurse, 205 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:15.799 and then the counselor. Well, then the next thing that she talked about 206 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.990 is it was probably the most important thing. I think she listed them in 207 00:16:19.070 --> 00:16:23.149 priority. was feeling alone. Right, yeah, so you know how we 208 00:16:23.269 --> 00:16:26.269 deal with that. Oh, yeah, I mean that's a common thing. 209 00:16:26.389 --> 00:16:27.830 And you know, if you think about it, you know some of the 210 00:16:27.950 --> 00:16:33.340 Times where you're the most fearful is when you're alone, when you feel alone. 211 00:16:33.419 --> 00:16:36.460 You know, sometimes it's just a lie. You know, you hear 212 00:16:36.500 --> 00:16:41.059 about, you read stories about people that you know attempt or even commit suicide. 213 00:16:41.059 --> 00:16:44.539 One of the main things that they site is the idea that they feel 214 00:16:44.539 --> 00:16:47.570 alone. I feel all alone. It might not even be true, though. 215 00:16:47.610 --> 00:16:49.529 You know, might be surrounded by people, but this loneliness is kind 216 00:16:49.529 --> 00:16:52.730 of turned inward. When the same way, though, when we deal with 217 00:16:52.769 --> 00:16:56.889 abortion minded women, that's one of the common thing. It is I feel 218 00:16:56.929 --> 00:17:00.049 alone, I don't feel like there's an a longer with me, and you 219 00:17:00.409 --> 00:17:03.240 could be because they actually are alone. They've been abandoned by their boyfriend. 220 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:07.279 A lot of times that happen, that does Yep, and or parent or 221 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:10.960 a parent. Yeah, and the people that they trust to be there with 222 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:12.799 them and help them to do the right thing or the people that betray that 223 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:17.950 trust and then they feel hey, I'm alone. Right, and it is 224 00:17:18.029 --> 00:17:21.230 a common like I mentioned, it's a common factor. is we're talking through. 225 00:17:21.349 --> 00:17:22.789 You don't feel like there's anybody going to be there with me. Yeah, 226 00:17:23.309 --> 00:17:26.109 and so, yeah, well, I mean it's cool that we can 227 00:17:26.150 --> 00:17:30.420 answer that. Yeah, and say you don't have to be alone. Yeah, 228 00:17:30.740 --> 00:17:33.180 you know, we okay, as a ministry, we're sidewalk counselors. 229 00:17:34.019 --> 00:17:38.940 We can't, like physically, we cannot be on the sidewalk and the side 230 00:17:38.940 --> 00:17:41.740 of a mom that chooses life. We used to do that. We used 231 00:17:41.779 --> 00:17:45.730 to do that before love life. Charlotte came along and it was it was 232 00:17:45.809 --> 00:17:48.490 sitting. It was a joy but an enormous burden. You can. Could 233 00:17:48.650 --> 00:17:52.410 do it long yeah. Yeah, and we would lose sidewalk counselors left and 234 00:17:52.450 --> 00:17:56.009 right because, you know, they'd have a mom that chose life, they 235 00:17:56.049 --> 00:17:59.519 would walk with their some of them even let them stay in their homes. 236 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:03.319 And, yeah, as awesome, right, but it's not sustainable now to 237 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:07.039 be able to pour yourself out in the capacity that it takes on the sidewalk. 238 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.599 It's an emotional spiritual drain, I mean it is just being out there, 239 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.789 and then to do that and to go and try to disciple and mentor 240 00:18:15.910 --> 00:18:19.470 a young lady that just chose life is really difficult. Yeah, then, 241 00:18:19.509 --> 00:18:22.390 of course, you know, love life comes along and they have their mentor 242 00:18:22.670 --> 00:18:26.220 program and they're asking for churches that are doing the prayer walks and stuff that, 243 00:18:26.299 --> 00:18:30.099 hey, take it a step further and raise up mentors so that now 244 00:18:30.299 --> 00:18:33.819 we can say you won't be alone. We have a list of mentors and 245 00:18:33.900 --> 00:18:37.180 we plug them into a mentor, Somebody that follows up with them and encourages 246 00:18:37.299 --> 00:18:40.220 them, goes out to eat with them, you know, take some for 247 00:18:40.339 --> 00:18:42.930 coffee, whatever, and they're not alone. Yeah, right, and there's 248 00:18:42.930 --> 00:18:47.769 the body of Christ working together. The sidewalk counselor has helped her to make 249 00:18:47.809 --> 00:18:53.529 that choice for life and then handed it off to a mentor and there's another 250 00:18:53.690 --> 00:18:57.880 part of the body of Christ coming and meeting that young lady's needs and how 251 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:04.519 incredibly freeing that is for us as a sidewalk counselor, because the burden of 252 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:11.109 following through which, like I said, it is a joy in a privilege, 253 00:19:11.230 --> 00:19:15.390 but it it requires a lot of time and effort and and you can't 254 00:19:15.509 --> 00:19:19.990 you just the spiritual energy even to be a sidewall counselor, which is so 255 00:19:21.190 --> 00:19:26.660 spiritually draining, and to be the guide that's going to walk alongside this mom 256 00:19:27.220 --> 00:19:32.619 in our last podcast with Ebony, which is a great podcast, so encouraging, 257 00:19:32.740 --> 00:19:34.859 I hope everyone listens to that one. But one of the things she 258 00:19:34.980 --> 00:19:41.490 said was she felt all alone and she she became suicidal she thought she felt 259 00:19:41.490 --> 00:19:44.250 like she was all alone in this. And then one of the things we 260 00:19:44.410 --> 00:19:47.329 did was assign a mentor to her. She says that mentor talks to every 261 00:19:47.369 --> 00:19:49.930 day. Yeah, every single day. Yes, her friend. So the 262 00:19:51.210 --> 00:19:56.599 the mentor was an immediate offer that I could make right to this mom who's 263 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:00.119 feeling all alone. Then the the second thing that I think that she put 264 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:07.430 in the order of priority was how would she be able to get the baby 265 00:20:07.109 --> 00:20:12.269 the many things that a new baby would need? Yeah, and we know 266 00:20:12.390 --> 00:20:17.430 what to do there too. We do so we have as a ministries matter 267 00:20:17.430 --> 00:20:21.819 of fact, right behind the wall that we're we're against her recording, this 268 00:20:22.660 --> 00:20:26.059 is our baby shower ministry area with all these these baby items that people donated, 269 00:20:26.059 --> 00:20:30.539 and we praise God for that. It's filled with them. It's amazing. 270 00:20:30.660 --> 00:20:33.940 And not only do we have that baby shower thing, but those are 271 00:20:33.019 --> 00:20:37.049 donations, you know, a whole. Yeah, there's another component exact, 272 00:20:37.170 --> 00:20:41.849 but you know, even before we touch that, we have another wonderful lady 273 00:20:41.849 --> 00:20:45.089 which hopefully to have on a podcast. Yeah, you soume because she's been 274 00:20:45.130 --> 00:20:51.240 in prolife ministry and just really set their downs thirty years. Yeah, more. 275 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:56.240 And she has a baby shower ministry, treat the mercy prolife ministries and 276 00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:59.079 she does baby shower. So we, you know, for mom chooses life, 277 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:02.400 she's the first resource we go to for that. The stuff that we 278 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:04.710 have is just sort of a backup in case maybe she can't do the baby 279 00:21:04.710 --> 00:21:08.589 shower because she's already doing one or, you know, there may be far 280 00:21:08.750 --> 00:21:11.829 out of town or something like that. But right this sort of supplemental. 281 00:21:11.869 --> 00:21:15.269 What she does is also, and again, another part of the body of 282 00:21:15.309 --> 00:21:18.099 Christ and totally totally Gospel centered. And you know, that's one thing I 283 00:21:18.180 --> 00:21:22.859 want to say. When we're looking for resources and we're making connections, you 284 00:21:22.940 --> 00:21:25.819 know, cities for life, we have what we call our life network and 285 00:21:25.940 --> 00:21:29.740 it's a network of ministries that we've connected with help meet needs and all that, 286 00:21:30.220 --> 00:21:34.490 we always prioritize Gospel centered ministries, not you know, it's not like 287 00:21:34.890 --> 00:21:40.130 we're saying you need to make them you get them saved or else you won't 288 00:21:40.170 --> 00:21:42.089 help them. That's that's a lie. Right then, we'll still help them. 289 00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:48.079 We've there. Apis right. We want to season everything that we do 290 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:51.119 with the Gospel. I don't know, Cheryl is just so awesome in the 291 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:52.519 way she lays out the gospel. You know, she goes and does a 292 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.680 baby shower and then she takes them, typically takes them out for lunch after 293 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:00.400 the baby shower and just lays out the purity message, you know, the 294 00:22:00.470 --> 00:22:03.670 idea that we need to be doing things according to God's design and God's plan, 295 00:22:03.750 --> 00:22:07.950 which is sex inside of marriage, which is overwhelming. The people that 296 00:22:08.069 --> 00:22:11.710 we encounter are in that situation. Right. So she lays that out very 297 00:22:11.829 --> 00:22:18.619 graciously but very forthrightly, and then she presents the Gospel and you know, 298 00:22:18.700 --> 00:22:22.900 I share that. It's just again this this body of Christ connection, yeah, 299 00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:26.700 is always going to be focused and always should be focused on Christ himself 300 00:22:26.740 --> 00:22:30.650 exactly. Now there I will say that we do have resources that are in 301 00:22:30.690 --> 00:22:36.809 the community that are not necessarily Christian resources. Like I we do provide some 302 00:22:36.930 --> 00:22:41.170 of those things in our general resource list. So we don't reject them, 303 00:22:41.250 --> 00:22:45.640 but but when we have fartize them, right, whenever there is like housing 304 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:49.519 ministries, for example, if there's a housing ministry, that's maybe it's a 305 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:53.799 or not ministry, but organization that's a governmental or whatever, you know, 306 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:57.710 if she needs housing. Yeah, and we can't find anything, that's the 307 00:22:57.789 --> 00:23:02.390 Gospel Center. You know, maybe there's no openings for some of the Gospel 308 00:23:02.390 --> 00:23:04.990 Centered Housing options that we that we know about, then yeah, I mean, 309 00:23:06.109 --> 00:23:07.430 yeah, we're not going to won't. Don't want it to be homeless. 310 00:23:07.549 --> 00:23:11.509 So we'll connected. They will always prioritize always because again, that that 311 00:23:12.099 --> 00:23:18.140 is the body of Christ working together. Yeah, and because we absolutely believe 312 00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:21.900 that if you're going to change the soul of America, the hearts and minds 313 00:23:22.099 --> 00:23:26.369 towards life as opposed to the death of abortion, you have to change a 314 00:23:26.450 --> 00:23:32.130 whole world view and that world view is the the God given World View. 315 00:23:32.730 --> 00:23:37.170 Yeah, I'm precious. Life is sacred before God. So so the baby 316 00:23:37.210 --> 00:23:41.359 shower is awesome and I love what Sheryl also the as the Bible often works, 317 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:47.839 symbols are are used to promote a message. And she says this this 318 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:52.240 vast the IT fills a room. When Cheryl does a baby shower, there's 319 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:56.630 two full years of everything that that baby will need, pretty much. Yeah, 320 00:23:56.750 --> 00:24:00.470 and that's closed in equipment. And shary will say, as you look 321 00:24:00.509 --> 00:24:03.910 at this, I want you to envision. This is a this is a 322 00:24:04.109 --> 00:24:11.019 visual picture of the abundant, lavish love of God. Yeah, so she's 323 00:24:11.180 --> 00:24:18.700 already kind of watered that mind for for blooming into the truth of, yeah, 324 00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:21.940 of what Christ has done for her. Yeah, it's really incredible. 325 00:24:22.819 --> 00:24:26.049 So we were able to right away tell this woman you're not going to need 326 00:24:26.130 --> 00:24:30.809 to buy a single thing for your baby except diapers, and you don't even 327 00:24:30.849 --> 00:24:33.170 need to buy usually the first couple months of diapers. We usually do provide 328 00:24:33.250 --> 00:24:38.599 that. But for two years everything that baby is going to need except diapers 329 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:44.440 is going to be provided. That alone has changed people from death to life 330 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.799 so often it's one of the most powerful things I think. I think that 331 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:52.559 we have to offer. So the next thing that she talked about was the 332 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:57.190 feeling of she did not want to be alone, but specifically she did not 333 00:24:57.309 --> 00:25:00.950 want to be a single mother. Right, and here was this relation ship 334 00:25:02.029 --> 00:25:07.420 damaged, but a relationship with the father, and she would they were still 335 00:25:07.579 --> 00:25:12.740 in a relationship, okay, but she she said, he just they are 336 00:25:12.859 --> 00:25:18.220 constantly at odds and she recognized sometimes, she said, I I'm doing things 337 00:25:18.259 --> 00:25:22.450 I don't even want to do. I'm misinterpreting things he said I'm getting hurt 338 00:25:22.009 --> 00:25:26.690 that he gets mad. Right, yeah, we all fish are cycle of 339 00:25:26.930 --> 00:25:30.369 Yah hurt and then hurting others, right, right. And and she really 340 00:25:30.410 --> 00:25:36.200 didn't know and he didn't know how to get out of this damaging cycle. 341 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:41.039 Right. And so, through a couple of churches we have free or low 342 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.279 cost, on sliding scale basis, counseling. Yeah, with with actual, 343 00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:51.549 you know, certified counselors. Right. Yeah. So we were able to 344 00:25:51.630 --> 00:25:53.390 offer that. And again, that is another part of the body. It 345 00:25:53.549 --> 00:25:59.390 is absolute is Christians who are volunteering pastors that have dealt with situations like this 346 00:25:59.509 --> 00:26:03.309 and they're willing to sit down and talk through and lay out a plan of 347 00:26:03.349 --> 00:26:07.900 action to try to reconcile the relationship. Yes, not just for you know, 348 00:26:07.019 --> 00:26:11.980 these boyfriend girlfriend relationships that ultimately need to be made right before God in 349 00:26:12.099 --> 00:26:15.619 marriage, right, but it's even husband wife relationships that they're willing to do 350 00:26:15.700 --> 00:26:22.609 with mother daughter relationships. Those can be also also a point of contention and 351 00:26:22.690 --> 00:26:25.890 drive a woman to an abortion clinic. Yet her relationship with their parents or 352 00:26:25.930 --> 00:26:29.730 whatever. So, yeah, that's an awesome resource there. Yeah, to 353 00:26:29.809 --> 00:26:32.490 be a wan to say hey, listen, we can't talk through it all 354 00:26:32.529 --> 00:26:36.759 right here in front of the abortion center. But we know people who can 355 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:40.319 and we'll talk through with you and lay out a plan and all of that 356 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:44.000 right, exactly so. And you know, of course, there's people that 357 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.150 I have heard say, well, no one needs to counselor they just need 358 00:26:47.269 --> 00:26:49.670 the Lord and on. You know, on one level I get that they 359 00:26:49.750 --> 00:26:53.150 do of course need the Lord, but it I as I spoke to this 360 00:26:53.390 --> 00:26:57.390 woman, I said there's no shame in counseling and it sometimes it is so 361 00:26:57.589 --> 00:27:03.180 good to have a third party who is completely unbiased, unconnected. Yeah, 362 00:27:03.220 --> 00:27:07.299 to you both to be able to given an unbiased just look at your interactions 363 00:27:07.380 --> 00:27:11.900 and how they could become more healthy. Yeah, absolutely, we you know, 364 00:27:11.940 --> 00:27:14.900 the Bible all through, especially in the book of proverbs, talks about 365 00:27:14.980 --> 00:27:18.250 counselors. It does. Now there's some there's some wack job stuff out there 366 00:27:18.369 --> 00:27:22.809 that people do that it's called counseling and it's spent a psychobabel garbage. Yeah, 367 00:27:23.250 --> 00:27:27.329 but then there is good, Biblical, Godly counsels. Matter of fact, 368 00:27:27.369 --> 00:27:32.119 again proverbs tells us to seek how godly counsel. And again as a 369 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.440 ministry, when we're as a part of that, the body of Christ, 370 00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.640 connecting them to another part of the body of Christ. It's going to be 371 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.559 a part of the body of Christ. You want to make sure it's a 372 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.630 it's Christian counseling that's exactly going to lead them in the right direction. Yeah, 373 00:27:44.630 --> 00:27:48.069 yeah, this is one area that we don't even list a secular counselor 374 00:27:48.109 --> 00:27:52.390 are our counselors are only Christian counselors, because because who knows, you know, 375 00:27:52.430 --> 00:27:55.029 you might refer someone to counseling and they end up counsel them in the 376 00:27:55.109 --> 00:27:57.109 going back to the abortion exactly. You know, they can certainly don't want 377 00:27:57.109 --> 00:28:00.740 to run of that situation. We don't want to do that, not at 378 00:28:00.740 --> 00:28:07.220 all. Okay, so then then she said this was someone who had older 379 00:28:07.299 --> 00:28:14.049 children and here she is entering now again with a baby and she worked and 380 00:28:14.329 --> 00:28:18.289 she just said, I don't know how I could afford child care. Yeah, 381 00:28:18.410 --> 00:28:23.049 it's, it's we're already struggling to make ends ands meat and so we 382 00:28:23.450 --> 00:28:27.000 know child cares a big issue right and in. Oh, I mean that's 383 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:33.039 a that's a real comments. Probably not top on the list initially when you 384 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.559 talk to a person, when you talk to a woman, come to an 385 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:40.160 abortion clinic, but once you start talking and getting really into it, it 386 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.349 really is a big issue because of the the cost of child here. I 387 00:28:44.430 --> 00:28:47.910 know it is really expensive to put your kids in day care. It is, 388 00:28:48.109 --> 00:28:49.349 it is, and but it's also if you don't put your kids in 389 00:28:49.390 --> 00:28:53.750 daycare and you've got to work a lot of what the women were ministering to 390 00:28:53.829 --> 00:28:57.220 her, single MOMS right, where they going to go? I mean they 391 00:28:57.339 --> 00:29:02.339 it's a necessity and it's a pretty expensive necessity. Right. So we knew 392 00:29:02.420 --> 00:29:07.099 that. We saw and we saw that there was actually a gap. There 393 00:29:07.579 --> 00:29:12.890 wasn't affordable child care. And we had we appointed volunteers that went out and 394 00:29:14.809 --> 00:29:18.009 talked to churches, yeah, and said Hey, you could be a part 395 00:29:18.009 --> 00:29:21.849 of the body of Christ here and helping women choose life. You already have 396 00:29:21.970 --> 00:29:25.599 a child care a lot of churches do. Oh Yeah, and and talk 397 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:30.440 to quite a few churches into offering one free child care resource. Yeah, 398 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:34.839 to skylar scholarship, scholarship to to a mom who chose life, and we've 399 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.670 had some of the mom's take advantage of that. So again the again, 400 00:29:38.750 --> 00:29:41.269 that's the body of Christ. Now, yeah, you remember, guys, 401 00:29:41.309 --> 00:29:45.589 you're listening through and we're talking about these things this is an actual woman, 402 00:29:45.630 --> 00:29:48.190 when this is not just a pretend story that we made up. This is 403 00:29:48.230 --> 00:29:52.109 a real woman with these real needs, and this is common. And if 404 00:29:52.150 --> 00:29:56.220 you do prolife ministry and if you're whether you're sidewall counselor or whether you're, 405 00:29:56.339 --> 00:29:59.380 you know, again, ministring out a pregnancy center or whatever, you're going 406 00:29:59.380 --> 00:30:00.819 to encounter and you're probably like yes, and Amen. Right now. You 407 00:30:00.900 --> 00:30:03.980 have experience that. I know what you're talking about. And you know, 408 00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:10.450 Jesus said you have not because you asked not right. Yeah, as we're 409 00:30:10.490 --> 00:30:14.170 looking for these resources in these different things, as needs have come up, 410 00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:18.410 what we've learned to do is just put ourselves in the uncomfortable zip position to 411 00:30:18.490 --> 00:30:22.519 ask people. Ask Churches, Hey, you got a day care? How 412 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.039 about giving a scholarship to a mom who's was going to have an abortion, 413 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.000 now she's choose a life and she needs to put that child in child care. 414 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.599 How about doing that? And Yeah, but also even asking like you 415 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.799 did. I love to put you on the SPOTY, you'd ask people for 416 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.230 me. But finding someone who would do the child care thright, digging for 417 00:30:37.309 --> 00:30:41.670 that, you know, volunteer. Yeah, you putting you know, that's 418 00:30:41.670 --> 00:30:44.950 again that's the body of Christ. This lady who does, who did a 419 00:30:44.990 --> 00:30:48.190 lot of the calls try to find the child care in the churches, who 420 00:30:48.309 --> 00:30:49.779 was somebody who was burdened to be out there on the sidewalk, right. 421 00:30:49.819 --> 00:30:53.380 Yeah, and then she couldn't any longer because of her family situation. Yea. 422 00:30:55.660 --> 00:30:56.859 She said, what can I do? And that was a thing, 423 00:30:56.980 --> 00:31:00.859 and yeah, you find child care, and she jumped right on it. 424 00:31:00.019 --> 00:31:03.450 She did. And the the amazing you said, ask asking, you shall 425 00:31:03.490 --> 00:31:07.849 receive, or whatever you said. It was a similar sort of and when 426 00:31:07.970 --> 00:31:14.730 I when I asked her to do that, I had a mom on board 427 00:31:14.809 --> 00:31:18.240 the RV who, she said, find me child care, I'm a boarding. 428 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.119 Yeah, and I called this volunteer and said we need child care in 429 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.480 this location and we need it today. Yeah, and do you know she 430 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.880 found a church within fifteen minutes, an hour or something like that. Yeah, 431 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.990 that would that said sure, sure, we'll do that. And we 432 00:31:34.069 --> 00:31:37.150 were able to go to that mother and say we found you child care, 433 00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:41.670 I think before she even left the RV. Right. So Lazy and how, 434 00:31:41.069 --> 00:31:44.150 you know, does that happen? On it every time? Know, 435 00:31:44.309 --> 00:31:47.660 but it happens a lot. He does it happens a lot. Yeah. 436 00:31:48.099 --> 00:31:52.819 So, so child care then, and, and I love what you said. 437 00:31:52.940 --> 00:31:56.819 Yes, this was a real mom who listed this list of needs, 438 00:31:57.259 --> 00:32:01.410 and here we are being able to check off one after another. This is 439 00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:08.089 what we can do. Right, okay. Her next thing was financial concerns, 440 00:32:08.529 --> 00:32:13.009 and and one of those with of course, with the coronavirus, especially 441 00:32:13.009 --> 00:32:16.519 because she had other children at home, was food. And that day, 442 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.839 I believe it was that day, I got a call from a ministry I 443 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:29.039 had been aware of. It's a Christian Ministry and I wish financial health. 444 00:32:30.269 --> 00:32:32.750 I believe. Financial Health Ministries, I believe, is the name of it, 445 00:32:34.029 --> 00:32:36.670 and maybe we can find that and I'll link it in the in an 446 00:32:36.710 --> 00:32:40.950 article. Okay. But she said they had collected bags and bags and bags 447 00:32:40.990 --> 00:32:45.940 of staples, of food, including paper towels. where she found the paper 448 00:32:45.980 --> 00:32:49.059 towels? I don't know. Every telet paper in there too. When we 449 00:32:49.099 --> 00:32:52.019 think that get me. But she said, do you have ten moms that 450 00:32:52.460 --> 00:32:57.539 that need this stuff? And of course we did, including that woman on 451 00:32:57.539 --> 00:33:00.289 the RV, and and I told her, by the way, we can 452 00:33:00.369 --> 00:33:04.009 have food and paper towels delivered to your home today. How does that sound? 453 00:33:04.809 --> 00:33:07.049 So again, that wasn't me, right, it was that this woman 454 00:33:07.130 --> 00:33:10.009 had contacted me. She said I don't know how she even heard about us, 455 00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:15.319 but said we would love to bless mobs. That, she's like, 456 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:21.359 yeah, as pretty amazing. Yeah, it was pretty amazing. She she 457 00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:27.869 did not know about pregnancy Medicaid, which a lot of them don't know about, 458 00:33:27.990 --> 00:33:30.829 and a lot of low income people, and it doesn't take much actually 459 00:33:30.869 --> 00:33:37.349 to qualify for pregnancy Medicaid. You can be well in the end, you 460 00:33:37.430 --> 00:33:39.950 know, high up on the income bracket to get pregnancy medicated right here. 461 00:33:40.150 --> 00:33:44.140 Right. So she hadn't known about that and she was saying, I I 462 00:33:44.259 --> 00:33:47.140 can't afford prenatal care. Right. Well, she didn't know about pregnancy medicated 463 00:33:47.180 --> 00:33:50.779 and we help them fill that form out. We tell them where to go 464 00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:55.289 and and and how to apply for it, and so that's how the prenatal 465 00:33:55.569 --> 00:33:59.049 yeah, medical care. Yeah, well, that's one of the things that 466 00:33:59.130 --> 00:34:04.009 actually we've encounter people coming to the abortion clinic, that the abortion clinics used 467 00:34:04.009 --> 00:34:07.369 to draw people in. It's, you know, they'll kind of capitalize on 468 00:34:07.570 --> 00:34:13.559 her lack of solid decision. Yeah, her like of knowledge. You know, 469 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.079 she may be is not thinking. She's thinking maybe I'll have an abortion 470 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:20.280 and that's why she's come to an abortion. But maybe I want and if 471 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.480 she, if she could get, you know, the different things that would 472 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.989 help meet her knees, she would not have the abortion. But they'll draw 473 00:34:25.070 --> 00:34:28.309 them in at the abortion clinic and say, well, you can just come, 474 00:34:29.110 --> 00:34:30.230 you can get your pregnant, you're going to need a pregnancy test, 475 00:34:30.510 --> 00:34:35.550 you can need confirmation of pregnancy and then if you decide to keep the pregnancy, 476 00:34:35.670 --> 00:34:37.909 that's how they'll word it. If you decide to keep the pregnancy, 477 00:34:37.989 --> 00:34:40.059 then you can just you have the Medicaid, confirmation and pregnancy and leave. 478 00:34:40.099 --> 00:34:44.019 But if you decide to have the abortion, we can help you with that 479 00:34:44.099 --> 00:34:45.019 too. And of course they get him in the door, they're going to 480 00:34:45.019 --> 00:34:49.099 sell them an abortion. Right, right. We can do all that stuff. 481 00:34:49.380 --> 00:34:52.579 Well, not we, but help pregnancy center and a lot of pregnancy 482 00:34:52.619 --> 00:34:55.170 centers can do that stuff. Give her Medicaid, confirmation of pregnancy so she 483 00:34:55.250 --> 00:35:00.250 don't feel like she has to be in the abortion clinic ultimately get pitched an 484 00:35:00.250 --> 00:35:02.530 abortion by them. Yeah, you know, they lay out a real dire 485 00:35:02.690 --> 00:35:05.849 case for you. Look right, you know, got this going on your 486 00:35:05.849 --> 00:35:08.800 life and that going on their business and they're going to try to pitch their 487 00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:14.679 their you know, abortions exactly. These women who, yeah, you know, 488 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:19.719 again, we can get them that information. Yeah, and even have 489 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:23.670 to go in there, right. And I don't think in this case that 490 00:35:24.630 --> 00:35:30.590 she needed a second opinion or was concerned because she was a high risk pregnancy. 491 00:35:30.670 --> 00:35:36.139 But actually we do hear that a lot. Yeah, and we sometimes 492 00:35:36.179 --> 00:35:39.739 get people who are in the country illegally, not citizens, can't get pregnancy 493 00:35:39.820 --> 00:35:45.900 medic right. Yeah, and so they are another problem that actually we have 494 00:35:46.019 --> 00:35:50.889 a solution for. I mean, so we do have people that fit in 495 00:35:50.969 --> 00:35:54.769 the gap who, you know, maybe make too much money to get Medicaid. 496 00:35:54.929 --> 00:36:00.050 That very rarely, if ever, happens, right, or, you 497 00:36:00.090 --> 00:36:04.320 know, they're Eli, they're here illegally. More commonly they're here really they 498 00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.880 get medicate coverage and of course they can't afford to buy insurance and they can't 499 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:13.559 afford the prenatal care. Right. So we have the free prenatal clinic with 500 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:15.960 help, pregnancy center. Again, yeah, and you know, we can 501 00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:20.550 plug him in there. We've done that quite a few times. And another 502 00:36:20.789 --> 00:36:25.829 part of the Christian body, a wonderful pro life doctor who volunteers his time. 503 00:36:27.070 --> 00:36:30.789 Yeah, to do that, Dr Matt Harrison? Who? Who Will 504 00:36:30.869 --> 00:36:35.059 See those women for free? Yeah, at this. I mean that's an 505 00:36:35.099 --> 00:36:37.900 amazing resource. It is. And that natal care. Surely there's a pro 506 00:36:38.019 --> 00:36:43.579 life doctors in every community who maybe could volunteer at least a little time to 507 00:36:44.059 --> 00:36:45.699 see a mom. That's one of those situations. You know, you guys 508 00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:50.130 who are listening and maybe in vs. Well, I don't have a doctor 509 00:36:50.170 --> 00:36:52.010 that can do that. Do from Prenatal Care, even a second opinion, 510 00:36:52.369 --> 00:36:54.489 because you know, we had a story, which we shared it out on 511 00:36:54.530 --> 00:36:59.610 our newsletter last last week. It went right right, of a guy who 512 00:36:59.730 --> 00:37:02.119 was standing in front of the abortion clinic and him and his wife did not 513 00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:06.960 want to have an abortion. Right, she was more abortion minded than he. 514 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.440 And then you share with him about the hey get a second opinion because 515 00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:14.840 she had some complications and some things. She had some pretty significant medical fears. 516 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.190 But even when I heard them, I thought, you know, abortion 517 00:37:19.389 --> 00:37:22.190 and and she was being advised by a doctor from another country, right, 518 00:37:22.349 --> 00:37:27.670 who had never seen her, that she had to go get an abortion because 519 00:37:28.070 --> 00:37:30.260 this is what he thought she had, right, yeah, and so to 520 00:37:30.420 --> 00:37:35.059 be able to get a second opinion was powerful actually it was private. Maybe 521 00:37:35.260 --> 00:37:37.699 life, without a doubt. Yeah, and so maybe you're listening to that 522 00:37:37.780 --> 00:37:42.500 in your kind of envious that resource has come about out of need and you 523 00:37:42.579 --> 00:37:45.170 know you have not, because you ask me. So. Yeah, you 524 00:37:45.289 --> 00:37:49.409 know, there are websites out there that will talk, will show you where 525 00:37:49.489 --> 00:37:53.329 prolife doctors are. Pro I think there's a whole pro life obgyn network. 526 00:37:53.730 --> 00:37:58.329 Yeah, find some of those doctors, call him up, you know, 527 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:02.159 and say, Hey, I need somebody that can be on call, somebody 528 00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:06.920 that can you know. Yeah, they may not be able to do that, 529 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:09.599 but they may be able to do it. Maybe more than happy to 530 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:13.710 be kind of an on call doctor where you can hand the phone off to 531 00:38:13.789 --> 00:38:15.429 them. I'd say talking to a mom. Yeah. Well, in this 532 00:38:15.909 --> 00:38:21.190 case, the the doctor, Dr Matt was was actually, I think, 533 00:38:21.349 --> 00:38:24.269 sequestered because of coronavirus. He didn't have it. He's treating it right and 534 00:38:24.469 --> 00:38:28.820 and he was not going to be able to see them for a couple of 535 00:38:28.900 --> 00:38:30.340 weeks. But he did set up an appointment to see them in a couple 536 00:38:30.380 --> 00:38:36.219 weeks. But he just talked to them and that alone was enough. He 537 00:38:37.019 --> 00:38:39.780 told them what he thought might be the issue. He he told us where 538 00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:45.889 to send them. We made some calls, sent them there immediately and and 539 00:38:46.210 --> 00:38:52.409 they chose life and and said this issue can be dealt with. So the 540 00:38:52.650 --> 00:38:59.320 next thing that they mentioned was that she was struggling to find a job. 541 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.400 Yeah, which is really it. That's definitely hard in the crime mean yeah, 542 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:06.880 nowadays, this is, we're here in this more and more and more 543 00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.550 and more common. Hey, I don't have work. Yeah, we encountered 544 00:39:09.590 --> 00:39:14.949 a couple the other day, yeah, who both the boyfriend and girl for 545 00:39:14.989 --> 00:39:19.269 her husband. That was Saturday, right. Both of them were not employed. 546 00:39:19.349 --> 00:39:21.909 Yeah, because of this coronavirusys. Well, okay, that might be 547 00:39:21.989 --> 00:39:23.739 a different one. But Saturday, though, the woman said she wants to 548 00:39:23.820 --> 00:39:27.659 work and she can't, and I said, well, it was on tiring, 549 00:39:27.980 --> 00:39:30.900 but I also said we have a job's lady who will have to find 550 00:39:30.940 --> 00:39:34.420 a job. That job's lady, Tara, contacted her yesterday. I got 551 00:39:34.460 --> 00:39:36.539 a touch from her. Oh, I got a job, so, I 552 00:39:36.659 --> 00:39:40.610 mean he's she saw her Saturday and she had apparently been trying for, yeah, 553 00:39:40.610 --> 00:39:45.250 quite some time. And that's another volunteer. That's another lady who who 554 00:39:45.530 --> 00:39:47.289 you would want to be on the sidewalk. She can't be on the sidewalk, 555 00:39:49.090 --> 00:39:53.320 but she has time that she would invest in this pursuit of fun and 556 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:58.199 jobs and and that takes again, that takes the pressure offer our sidewall counselors 557 00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:00.199 to have to dig for that information. Right, and it's again it's that 558 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:04.960 the body of Christ. You know, Tara, who finds the job, 559 00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:09.190 is like she she's an arm there, she's here or whatever, and he 560 00:40:09.429 --> 00:40:13.989 is and doing that work. And Our lady who finds the Child Care, 561 00:40:14.030 --> 00:40:16.829 that's another it's she's a she's a hand, she's a leg, she's something. 562 00:40:17.150 --> 00:40:21.070 She's a part of that body of Christ working together, yeah, to 563 00:40:21.269 --> 00:40:24.219 help meet this mom's need and ultimately, you know, glorified Jesus. That's 564 00:40:24.300 --> 00:40:29.460 the gold right of Christ. Yeah, then with all of these issues, 565 00:40:29.780 --> 00:40:32.500 you know, very limited money, they're really kind of just making ends meet. 566 00:40:32.619 --> 00:40:36.329 But now she has a job. That will help. But financial counseling 567 00:40:36.369 --> 00:40:39.289 and budgeting was mentioned. Well, guess what? Yeah, yeah, a 568 00:40:39.369 --> 00:40:43.969 lady who used to be on the sidewalk and again, I think because she 569 00:40:44.530 --> 00:40:47.130 works full time in financial counseling, but she also just had a new baby 570 00:40:47.170 --> 00:40:52.920 and she couldn't be on the sidewalk anymore, and so she volunteers to take 571 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.880 these women do a budget, which helps us to make wise decisions, by 572 00:40:55.960 --> 00:41:00.519 the way, and where we allocate resources. Sometimes absolutely arms. And Yeah, 573 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:05.670 before we will help them financially, try to get them financial help. 574 00:41:05.750 --> 00:41:09.110 We want to make sure financially it's going to be advantageous to do that. 575 00:41:09.269 --> 00:41:14.670 And right what can we do? And offer them wise counsel as far as 576 00:41:15.030 --> 00:41:17.190 doing what might with what money they have, doing what they need to do 577 00:41:17.309 --> 00:41:23.860 with that. So this young lady goes through their financial portfolio, whatever that 578 00:41:24.059 --> 00:41:27.739 is. Yeah, I have no clue what a portfolio, goes through their 579 00:41:27.780 --> 00:41:31.460 finances and and lays out a plan form. That's another she's, like you 580 00:41:31.619 --> 00:41:35.610 mentioned, she's another one of those people who carry out there, but she 581 00:41:35.690 --> 00:41:39.369 can't right now. Yeah, and using her skills, using her you know, 582 00:41:40.130 --> 00:41:45.050 giftings. Yeah, in the body of Christ, to glorify Jesus and 583 00:41:45.090 --> 00:41:49.480 help them. So there's two more. Okay, and I'll will I'll try 584 00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:51.519 and be quick on that. We don't want this to go on too long, 585 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:53.559 but as I'm talking with her, she did notline it as a need. 586 00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:57.400 But we get towards the end of the counseling and listening the obstacles and 587 00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:02.909 she said she'd had passed abortions and then started weeping right and and that's a 588 00:42:02.989 --> 00:42:07.150 common thing to very calm and a third of abortions are repeat abortions, so 589 00:42:07.389 --> 00:42:14.389 it's very common. And well, we have all kinds of post abord of 590 00:42:14.469 --> 00:42:20.579 counseling and help through Christian organizations and women who have volunteered their time to counsel 591 00:42:20.659 --> 00:42:24.860 these women and have programs, great programs. Surrendering the secret is one. 592 00:42:25.940 --> 00:42:31.690 Restored restored life. Restored life is is the other one. I think so, 593 00:42:32.849 --> 00:42:36.010 but or maybe I've got that wrong. Maybe they're both the same, 594 00:42:36.090 --> 00:42:39.010 but anyway they're they're Christian, two different okay, and they and they're Christians 595 00:42:39.210 --> 00:42:45.000 and focus volunteer their time and we were able to connect her with with that 596 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:46.679 resource. I don't know if she'll avail herself of it, but I was 597 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:51.480 able to tell her about it. And then the last thing that struck me 598 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.639 was you and I are able to be out there handing out expensive information, 599 00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:02.550 funding some of the things that we fund for this women because there are donors 600 00:43:02.590 --> 00:43:07.869 all over the world. I think, yeah, that that give financially and 601 00:43:07.070 --> 00:43:13.219 without those donations they're so much of what we do, we'd be unable, 602 00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:15.980 yeah, to do absolutely that another part of the body of Christ it is, 603 00:43:16.460 --> 00:43:21.780 and you know it's it's a necessary component. It's a component. You 604 00:43:21.860 --> 00:43:22.860 know, a lot of times I don't like to deal with. You don't 605 00:43:22.860 --> 00:43:25.460 like to do as far as donations and that sort of thing going. Just 606 00:43:25.539 --> 00:43:29.090 deal with money. And there's been so much, you know, to go 607 00:43:29.170 --> 00:43:30.969 on a little bit of a rabbit trail, there's been so much perversion of 608 00:43:31.130 --> 00:43:35.090 this aspect, of the financial aspect. You know, when you got, 609 00:43:35.210 --> 00:43:38.489 you know, quote, Christian ministries buying big jets and all this other stuff, 610 00:43:38.610 --> 00:43:43.360 just wasting money. Yeah, and so it kind of gets, I 611 00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:46.039 don't know that that aspect of the body of Christ work together, gets perverted 612 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:50.119 and manipulated. Yeah, but it is a necessary component. You know, 613 00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.639 we have people who can't be on the sidewalk for whatever reason that give to 614 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:57.550 support our ministry, and that happens, you know, with pregnancy centers and 615 00:43:58.150 --> 00:44:01.030 wherever you are, there's some component of people given money to support that ministry 616 00:44:01.469 --> 00:44:07.349 that literally we couldn't do without that financial support. And I do encourage those 617 00:44:07.429 --> 00:44:12.300 donors, you know, every so often just say thank you. What you're 618 00:44:12.340 --> 00:44:15.820 doing makes a difference for life. We literally couldn't do it without you. 619 00:44:15.900 --> 00:44:19.659 You're a part of the team. These people are. You know, Paul 620 00:44:20.099 --> 00:44:22.260 spoken those terms. We talked about those who supported him. You know, 621 00:44:22.340 --> 00:44:27.170 they supported him in the work that he was doing spreading the Gospel, and 622 00:44:28.170 --> 00:44:31.210 they are part of that mission. They were part of that mission. Yeah, 623 00:44:31.489 --> 00:44:36.090 and the folks who support US financially or are part of that mission. 624 00:44:36.170 --> 00:44:37.130 This is not a plug, by the way, for you to give to 625 00:44:37.210 --> 00:44:40.920 US financially, but if you want to do yeah, if you if you 626 00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:43.840 take it that way and if you want to, hey, we were not 627 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:45.239 going to stop you. We're not going to scratch the spirit. Yeah, 628 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:49.880 Amen, but this is a picture and I like the fact that we went 629 00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.190 through a real story with a real mom who got real help and showed the 630 00:44:53.269 --> 00:44:57.989 body of Christ working together. Now, listen, don't don't take that, 631 00:44:58.110 --> 00:45:00.550 which God intends to be an encouragement for you, and let it be a 632 00:45:00.670 --> 00:45:04.429 discouragement, because you might be thinking, you know, I'm on the sidewalk 633 00:45:04.510 --> 00:45:07.219 and there's like nobody helping me. There's no none of these ministries, none 634 00:45:07.219 --> 00:45:12.539 of these organizations, none of these resources you guys talk about or even available 635 00:45:12.619 --> 00:45:15.900 to me and just understand, though. It's taken US years, but this 636 00:45:15.980 --> 00:45:20.940 stuff together and it's been put together kind of on the fly. As the 637 00:45:21.099 --> 00:45:23.610 need arises, we try to make a connection. We've not always been able 638 00:45:23.650 --> 00:45:27.969 to make every connection, but it's been few and far between the we haven't 639 00:45:27.969 --> 00:45:30.170 been able to find something that's right the will meet a need. You know, 640 00:45:30.329 --> 00:45:32.969 especially here in the south, and I'm sure it's like that across the 641 00:45:34.289 --> 00:45:37.320 the nation, where you've got so many churches and within churches you've got in 642 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:42.800 individual ministries you've got clothed closets, you've got food pants, you've got, 643 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.199 you know, daycare restort. You got these things. You got to do 644 00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:49.960 some dig in, though, yea, and you got to put yourself out 645 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.309 there. As I said earlier, you have not because you ask not. 646 00:45:52.429 --> 00:45:55.190 So if you know, maybe there's a doctor in your church, mm, 647 00:45:55.670 --> 00:45:59.789 who you know has a heart for the unborn. If he's in your church, 648 00:45:59.869 --> 00:46:01.469 you should have a heart for the inform go up to him and say, 649 00:46:01.469 --> 00:46:05.699 Hey, it would be awesome if I could have you ownt call to 650 00:46:05.780 --> 00:46:08.019 be able to talk to a mom who has some situations in her life that 651 00:46:08.139 --> 00:46:12.780 a physician could help right. Just give all second incuations. Before I forget, 652 00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:14.980 by the way, I do want to give a plug to another kind 653 00:46:15.019 --> 00:46:19.809 of unsung little in the background body of the Christ and those are these little 654 00:46:19.809 --> 00:46:22.570 old ladies, not always little ladies, but I in fact my my niece 655 00:46:22.769 --> 00:46:27.889 is going to be doing this, that knit baby blankets and baby hats and 656 00:46:28.010 --> 00:46:30.570 call US supper right. Someone just sent me a box. Wonderful Janet is 657 00:46:30.610 --> 00:46:34.760 her name, sent me. It cost her thirty seven dollars to mail at 658 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:40.679 this box filled with homemade knitted things for babies and every mom that chooses life, 659 00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.119 we hand out these homemade gifts to their beautiful too, and it's just 660 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:50.349 such a picture of the body of Christ and the love of the body of 661 00:46:50.389 --> 00:46:53.469 Christ for this mother choosing life, but also something to for her to hang 662 00:46:53.550 --> 00:46:58.429 onto, to imagine she's going to put that around her little baby one day, 663 00:46:58.469 --> 00:47:01.139 and it's very POW solidify that decision. That's right. Yeah, yeah, 664 00:47:01.260 --> 00:47:04.500 so, you know, I hope we've painted a good picture for you 665 00:47:04.579 --> 00:47:07.019 guys. I hope it's been an encouragement to you guys. We have articles 666 00:47:07.139 --> 00:47:10.539 that we put an article out, it was months ago, on the sidewalks 667 00:47:10.579 --> 00:47:15.579 for life site about how how you get resources and how you find these different 668 00:47:15.619 --> 00:47:20.090 resources, and so check that article out. But it is a it is 669 00:47:20.130 --> 00:47:23.130 a matter of digging for these resources. Google is a great resource for you 670 00:47:23.210 --> 00:47:27.650 to be able to find these resources, you know, whatever the need might 671 00:47:27.809 --> 00:47:30.440 be. But again, we hope this was an encouragement. Do you guys? 672 00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.119 We don't encourage you guys to go to our sidewalks for life site. 673 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.280 CHECK US out there. Shoot me over an email if you've got any any 674 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.119 questions, or maybe you've got some suggestions for episodes that we could do deep 675 00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:45.230 parks at cities for Lifecom, you can email her vcasi orget cities for lifecom. 676 00:47:45.670 --> 00:47:49.269 But we appreciate you, guys. Listen and until next time, God 677 00:47:49.309 --> 00:48:01.460 bless me, ove for love, give me our lift. For gratitude. 678 00:48:05.539 --> 00:48:14.329 I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious. And some 679 00:48:14.889 --> 00:48:15.289 met you