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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:09.949 Lord, I am. You're welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. 3 00:00:10.310 --> 00:00:14.189 This episode we share a story of how the body of Christ work together to 4 00:00:14.349 --> 00:00:18.510 help a couple that chose life, to help meet their needs and ultimately bring 5 00:00:18.550 --> 00:00:26.179 glory to Jesus as they chose life. Stay tuned. I felt show passis 6 00:00:27.339 --> 00:00:38.490 touch your heart. Use Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. We 7 00:00:38.649 --> 00:00:42.649 hope you guys are just blessed as your listen to the different episodes that we 8 00:00:42.770 --> 00:00:46.609 put out and hope this podcast is a blessing to you. Do want to 9 00:00:46.609 --> 00:00:54.359 encourage everyone to share our podcasts and or leave us review and whatever podcast APP 10 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:59.359 or source that you use. Certainly those reviews and thinks can help us get 11 00:00:59.960 --> 00:01:03.000 what we're trying to do and get our message out there more broadly. So 12 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.909 we appreciate those who do share. Just encourage those who don't to share. 13 00:01:07.150 --> 00:01:11.430 All Right, YEP, today we're going to talk about how God uses the 14 00:01:11.549 --> 00:01:18.430 body of Christ. It's something we've experienced in in pro life ministry and it's 15 00:01:18.469 --> 00:01:25.540 really encouraging to see different components of ministry and just the Church using its its 16 00:01:25.620 --> 00:01:30.420 giftings and using its resources to come together the right and to help out in 17 00:01:30.299 --> 00:01:36.250 the situations that we deal with on a daily basis. Now you'd mentioned some 18 00:01:36.409 --> 00:01:41.450 of this discouragement. Certainly if you're involved in ministry, those who are listening, 19 00:01:41.609 --> 00:01:45.049 and you're involved, especially in ministry at an abortion clinic, there's a 20 00:01:45.090 --> 00:01:49.319 level of discouragement that comes. Yeah, because you're like, they're killing babies 21 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:53.439 in this place. Where's the church? Here in Charlotte we're you know, 22 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:57.680 we have four abortion clinics now here in Charlotte. One thousandree hundred churches in 23 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:02.590 the Greater Charlotte area and those are, you know, the Bible believing churches. 24 00:02:02.670 --> 00:02:06.390 That doesn't include, you know, the ones who are not really churches. 25 00:02:06.510 --> 00:02:08.990 You know, you know what I mean, and it can be discouragement 26 00:02:09.310 --> 00:02:14.349 or discouraging sometimes when we're out there and there's, you know, four or 27 00:02:14.389 --> 00:02:16.659 five people and it's like where's the church? Should be a massive people, 28 00:02:16.659 --> 00:02:21.860 it should be thousands of people. I know there's some sidewalks and other cities 29 00:02:21.939 --> 00:02:23.340 where there's no one, there's no one out there. At least we have 30 00:02:23.419 --> 00:02:27.500 four or five. Yeah, yeah, and you know, of course we 31 00:02:27.659 --> 00:02:30.729 have had thousands of people. We praise God. It's taken some years of 32 00:02:30.889 --> 00:02:34.849 plowing and all of that that we've done and we've you know, we've seen 33 00:02:36.250 --> 00:02:40.650 thousands of people show up in one Saturday before through our partner ministry love life. 34 00:02:40.770 --> 00:02:45.759 We praise God for that. So but it just kind of, I 35 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:50.319 guess, voicing the the discouragement that can come. You know, as you 36 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:53.680 talked about scriptures that have to do with the discouragement of filling all along, 37 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:57.520 immediately came to mind. Scripture that many of you guys know, or at 38 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:00.229 least a story that many of you guys know. We've talked about before, 39 00:03:00.310 --> 00:03:04.150 is the story of Elijah and how Elijah felt like he was all along. 40 00:03:04.430 --> 00:03:07.990 You know, there's just me and God reminded him. You know I've got 41 00:03:07.110 --> 00:03:12.939 seven thousand others right who've not bowed the need to bail, who are serving. 42 00:03:13.139 --> 00:03:15.780 So you know, it can be discouraging, it can feel lonely. 43 00:03:15.060 --> 00:03:20.819 Sometimes we're on the sidewalk or we're ministering in a capacity, trying to, 44 00:03:21.860 --> 00:03:24.620 you know, stand against abortion and it's like where's the church at? But 45 00:03:24.780 --> 00:03:30.169 this podcast is to encourage you that the church is doing something and there are 46 00:03:30.330 --> 00:03:35.530 different components that you know as the body of Christ, are being used to 47 00:03:35.969 --> 00:03:39.129 to save lives, to bring the Gospel and to help out in these different 48 00:03:39.169 --> 00:03:43.560 situations that we encounter at the abortion centers. Right. Yeah, and I 49 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:52.840 will admit to being pretty selfrighteous, honestly, about I'm here on the sidewalk 50 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:59.870 frequently during the week and and where is everybody, and kind of feeling like 51 00:04:00.710 --> 00:04:04.150 superior. Yeah, you know, like I must be a really good Christian 52 00:04:04.189 --> 00:04:10.539 because because I'm out here and and I think the Lord is really convicting me, 53 00:04:11.180 --> 00:04:15.259 that that's a jerky way to feel, first of all, and and 54 00:04:15.460 --> 00:04:20.339 that that maybe I needed to reevaluate. And and so of course there's great 55 00:04:20.379 --> 00:04:27.370 scripture to talk about the the body, yeah, yeah, of the church. 56 00:04:27.970 --> 00:04:32.009 And Yeah, you know, there's reason why in the scriptures one of 57 00:04:32.050 --> 00:04:38.009 the most, if not the most used term to refer to the church is 58 00:04:38.410 --> 00:04:41.720 the body of Christ. Yeah, there's a reason why, yeah, that 59 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:46.160 it's not just some term that that sounds cool, but it speaks to something, 60 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:50.560 it speaks to a reality that God intend and that God intended when he 61 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:56.709 established his church. And this is First Corinthians, chapter twelve. Yeah, 62 00:04:56.829 --> 00:05:00.870 that's the scripture you've got down there, right. Yeah, and it speaks 63 00:05:00.910 --> 00:05:03.350 of the body of Christ. It says, for as the body is one 64 00:05:03.470 --> 00:05:08.660 and has many members, but all members of that one body, being many, 65 00:05:08.699 --> 00:05:13.620 are one body. So also is Christ. So he's talking about the 66 00:05:13.740 --> 00:05:16.699 body. Are Physical Body. How there's a bunch of components to this body, 67 00:05:17.540 --> 00:05:20.180 and you know, we have arm, we have we have arms, 68 00:05:20.970 --> 00:05:25.209 we have legs, we have fingers and toes and eyes and nose and all 69 00:05:25.250 --> 00:05:28.649 that stuff. And he's equating that to the body of Christ. So just 70 00:05:28.810 --> 00:05:30.889 like your body has different components and members and they make up one body, 71 00:05:31.209 --> 00:05:35.680 so does Christ. Body has different components who make up this one body, 72 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:40.720 the body of Christ. And it's goes on to say, for about one 73 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:44.360 spirit. We all baptize into one body and whether Jews or Greeks, of 74 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:48.000 these divisions that were there no longer there in Christ. He goes on to 75 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:53.589 say, for if, in fact the body is or in fact the body 76 00:05:53.709 --> 00:05:56.350 is not one member but many, for if the foot should say, because 77 00:05:56.350 --> 00:05:59.470 I am not a hand, I'm not of the body, is therefore not 78 00:05:59.589 --> 00:06:00.670 of the body. If the ear should say, because I am not an 79 00:06:00.709 --> 00:06:03.269 eye, I'm not of the body, is that therefore not a body. 80 00:06:03.339 --> 00:06:08.019 So he's talking about these different components to the body. Point is that these 81 00:06:08.100 --> 00:06:12.540 things no one is more important than the other, and that's what we're you 82 00:06:12.620 --> 00:06:15.259 know, we need to put ourselves in check as sidewalk counselors who are really, 83 00:06:15.259 --> 00:06:18.290 you know, in a lot of ways, on the front lines, 84 00:06:18.810 --> 00:06:24.009 the front of the front lines of the abortion battle, because we're right there 85 00:06:24.290 --> 00:06:28.449 where abortions take place. Yeah, and we start thinking, well, we're 86 00:06:28.689 --> 00:06:32.639 somehow more important or we're somehow, you better Christians, yeah, than other 87 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:36.759 people who are doing other things. That's when, you know again we need 88 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:41.199 to put ourselves in check and understand that, after all, it's not US 89 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:46.120 anyway, it's not our calling, it's God's calling and we, by His 90 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.230 grace alone, have answered that calling. And it's all about him anyway. 91 00:06:50.310 --> 00:06:53.910 I mean, that's really what it bows down to. It's not about a 92 00:06:54.029 --> 00:06:57.949 particular ministry, it's not about cities for life, it's not about, you 93 00:06:58.029 --> 00:07:00.579 know, sidewalk counseling ministry, none of that. It's about Jesus, and 94 00:07:00.699 --> 00:07:06.019 we're just a part of the body that's doing the work that he's called us 95 00:07:06.060 --> 00:07:09.980 to do. Right, and all of us are valued. Every single part 96 00:07:10.019 --> 00:07:13.339 of that body is valued in the end, specifically in that verse, in 97 00:07:13.420 --> 00:07:20.529 those verses they the seemingly less important and covered parts like your toes, yeah, 98 00:07:20.730 --> 00:07:26.569 each your hand. You know, those are all mentioned to remind us 99 00:07:26.689 --> 00:07:30.680 there they are all of value. They all have a part and those parts 100 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:34.560 are different and there might be bigger parts, were smaller parts, just as 101 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:41.560 in the physical body, but all those parts need for the body to work 102 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.870 as a whole. All those parts have to be doing their job. Yeah, 103 00:07:45.870 --> 00:07:50.750 yeah, and so we certainly need as sidewalk counselors and as people. 104 00:07:50.870 --> 00:07:55.910 I mean, maybe you're listening and you minister to abortion minded women at a 105 00:07:55.990 --> 00:08:00.980 pregnancy censer. We need to understand our place. We need to understand, 106 00:08:01.100 --> 00:08:05.259 yes, the importance of what we do. All right, I guess I 107 00:08:05.779 --> 00:08:09.180 get the weight and the importance of what we do a sidewalk counselors. It's 108 00:08:09.259 --> 00:08:13.490 one of the reasons why, you know, through, and we've talked about 109 00:08:13.490 --> 00:08:16.569 this in previous podcast, through the stayathome order and all the things going on 110 00:08:16.689 --> 00:08:20.370 with the coronavirus, then we were really, you know, standing our ground 111 00:08:20.449 --> 00:08:24.250 and we're not back in a way and just saying okay, we'll stay at 112 00:08:24.250 --> 00:08:28.399 home. We understand the the vital nature of what we're doing that we are 113 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.840 the last voice, oftentimes that little baby is going to get. So we 114 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.399 understand that. We need to understand our place and we need to understand our 115 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:41.320 importance, but also understanding our place in our importance, knowing that that comes 116 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.549 from Christ. And then there are other people. I mean right now we're 117 00:08:43.590 --> 00:08:50.230 seeing really just the church rally in, the different life ministries and stuff, 118 00:08:50.230 --> 00:08:56.580 rallied together all the more through this crisis where we're seeing, you know, 119 00:08:56.740 --> 00:09:01.659 a pregnancy censer that we talked about, who they've shut their doors. They 120 00:09:01.700 --> 00:09:05.659 had to make a decision to close down because of different things with their organization 121 00:09:05.820 --> 00:09:11.049 and all of that through this coronavirus thing. But they're referring patients to the 122 00:09:11.210 --> 00:09:13.769 mobile unit that's parked in front of the abortion center. Of course, we've 123 00:09:13.970 --> 00:09:16.889 we've, you know, as functioning as the body of Christ connected together, 124 00:09:16.889 --> 00:09:18.809 we've made a decision to move the mobile unit of the street a little bit 125 00:09:18.889 --> 00:09:22.690 so they're not actually coming down toward the abortion clinic. So, you know, 126 00:09:22.769 --> 00:09:26.399 we're making changes in the body is working together and it's really cool to 127 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:31.399 see that it is functioning the way that I think God designed for it. 128 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.080 Is and I know in past podcast one of the things that we talked about 129 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:41.789 was how distressing it is sometimes that we're not hearing pastors speaking about abortion. 130 00:09:41.830 --> 00:09:46.269 Yeah, and even that I believe that. I still believe that. But 131 00:09:46.750 --> 00:09:52.860 I know that for me, just hearing a sermon that maybe it's not directly 132 00:09:52.940 --> 00:10:00.179 related to abortion, but it's something that energizes me for the Lord and gives 133 00:10:00.220 --> 00:10:05.820 me courage, strength reliance on God, I do take that immediately to the 134 00:10:07.019 --> 00:10:09.570 sidewalk. There are many sermons. So we had a sermon a couple of 135 00:10:09.610 --> 00:10:16.889 weeks ago about the miracles of Jesus, but one of the lines in that 136 00:10:18.370 --> 00:10:20.840 Merman was talking about the shortest line in the Bible. Jesus wept and that 137 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:26.240 that was what stayed with me as I went to the sidewalk and I used 138 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:30.240 it speaking over the microphone, because it really yeah, because it really struck 139 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:37.070 me and energize me. So even when a pastor is not specifically speaking about 140 00:10:37.070 --> 00:10:43.110 abortion, he is still contributing to the body of people who are on that 141 00:10:43.269 --> 00:10:50.220 front line in that it's a motivator and encourager, a a spiritual guidance. 142 00:10:50.259 --> 00:10:56.059 Yeah, for me and kind of so it helps me to really begin to 143 00:10:56.139 --> 00:11:03.179 to be more grateful for all Christians and and the contribution of all of these 144 00:11:03.330 --> 00:11:07.610 people in very different, different ways. Yeah. Absolutely. So one of 145 00:11:07.649 --> 00:11:13.169 the one of the things that really struck me as I was preparing for this 146 00:11:15.289 --> 00:11:22.559 was how often the women that we see right at that last moment before they're 147 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.200 going to choose life or death at the abortion center, their needs are so 148 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:35.509 great, and how often there are multiple ministries, dozens sometimes ministries, resources 149 00:11:35.669 --> 00:11:43.789 donations that have come from different parts of the Christian body in the community that 150 00:11:43.070 --> 00:11:48.220 have helped us to be able to council their that woman towards life. And 151 00:11:48.539 --> 00:11:52.340 we couldn't do that. If we could, we could certainly share the gospel. 152 00:11:52.379 --> 00:11:56.620 Yeah, we could offer the things that we in our own ministry can 153 00:11:56.740 --> 00:12:01.970 offer, like the baby shower, but there's so many things that we wouldn't 154 00:12:01.009 --> 00:12:05.889 be able to offer, yeah, if those other Christian ministries weren't active. 155 00:12:05.929 --> 00:12:11.690 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean you talking about anything from like maternity 156 00:12:11.769 --> 00:12:16.879 homes and prenatal care, that sort of thing that you know, we don't 157 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.440 have the ability to do that. Right. We don't have maternity home, 158 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.360 but there are maternity homes out there, right. Yeah, we have connected 159 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.759 women with, and that's those are just vital resource. I mean, you 160 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.549 got a young lady, and we've encountered it many times, who's coming to 161 00:12:31.590 --> 00:12:35.909 the abortion clinic who really, in her mind and her heart, abortion would 162 00:12:35.909 --> 00:12:39.629 be the furthest thing away from her mind and from her heart, but she 163 00:12:39.830 --> 00:12:43.299 feels like she has no other choice but to go and have an abortion because 164 00:12:43.299 --> 00:12:46.980 she's going to be kicked out her boyfriends, that nick threatened to kick her 165 00:12:46.059 --> 00:12:50.779 out, or parents or whatever. And when you can hand her off to 166 00:12:50.940 --> 00:12:54.139 a maternity home. That's again, that's the body of Christ working together and 167 00:12:54.419 --> 00:13:00.210 coming together under the banner of Jesus, you know, under the head Jesus, 168 00:13:00.730 --> 00:13:05.529 and seeing these needs met. Yeah, it's awesome to see. Yeah, 169 00:13:05.610 --> 00:13:09.809 I had a woman a few I don't know, a week ago, 170 00:13:09.970 --> 00:13:13.559 something like that, who maybe we could use as kind of a case study. 171 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.519 Yeah, yeah, those are always good stores. Is share through not 172 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.240 just what like in theory could happen, but what actually did happen. This 173 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.279 is a is a great story. Yeah, yeah, lay that out. 174 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:31.710 So this, this woman was came to us through the pregnancy resource center. 175 00:13:31.789 --> 00:13:37.870 The closed. Yeah, they closed. They contacted the nurse from Monroe help 176 00:13:37.990 --> 00:13:43.059 pregnancy resource center. Yeah, that nurse contacted me and said we're going to 177 00:13:43.100 --> 00:13:48.340 bring this woman out to the mobile ultrasound unit in front of the abortion center. 178 00:13:48.980 --> 00:13:50.940 I'm going to be the nurse. Could you counsel? So right there 179 00:13:52.059 --> 00:13:56.769 we've got three different bodies of the Lord. Yeah, operate different members of 180 00:13:56.850 --> 00:14:00.090 that body. Yeah, right, that's right. Yes, that's what I 181 00:14:00.129 --> 00:14:01.649 meant to say, because they're not three. We're all part of the one 182 00:14:01.730 --> 00:14:05.929 body. They're different parts of them. Get into sire. You've got the 183 00:14:05.169 --> 00:14:09.759 original PRC. That's closed, but they're open for calls. They're taking calls, 184 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.840 so they're still doing their part. Through the coronavirus. They refer them 185 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:20.279 to help pregnancy resource center, who sends the Mobile RV out to to the 186 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:26.669 abortion center. They provide the nurse and then cities for life provided the counselor 187 00:14:26.110 --> 00:14:33.629 so there's three parts of the of the body right there. So the the 188 00:14:33.789 --> 00:14:39.659 woman had base just almost every significant issue you could have. Yeah, which 189 00:14:39.740 --> 00:14:43.259 is why she's a great case study, and this is a true story. 190 00:14:43.860 --> 00:14:48.580 The obstacles that she faced on I'll list them. Okay. There was damaged 191 00:14:48.700 --> 00:14:52.460 relationship with the father the baby, which is very common. Oh, yeah, 192 00:14:52.820 --> 00:14:58.850 one way or another. A yeah, job concerns, again increasingly common 193 00:14:58.049 --> 00:15:07.679 now, especially Lee with coronavirus, financial concerns, prenatal health concerns. She 194 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:16.000 specifically said my stability. So faith and stability concerns, feelings of isolation and 195 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:22.190 fear of being all alone, childcare concerns and inability to obtain or pay for 196 00:15:22.389 --> 00:15:26.070 the many things a new baby would need. So and when I counsel I 197 00:15:26.190 --> 00:15:30.230 will say, well, what brings you here? Can you list? List 198 00:15:30.350 --> 00:15:33.389 them. Yeah, this was the list. Who gives me? Yeah, 199 00:15:33.149 --> 00:15:39.019 pretty heavy list. It's a heavy list and and I have to say, 200 00:15:39.259 --> 00:15:43.700 though, that the longer I do this, the more I realize first of 201 00:15:43.700 --> 00:15:50.450 all, God will provide. Yeah, but every one of these needs was 202 00:15:50.649 --> 00:15:56.049 met by a different part of the body of Christ. Yeah. So, 203 00:15:58.929 --> 00:16:06.159 so we already said there was the the pregnancy resource source center that that sent 204 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:10.399 her to, as Monroe help pregnancy resource center, the scenographer or nurse, 205 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:15.799 and then the counselor. Well, then the next thing that she talked about 206 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.990 is it was probably the most important thing. I think she listed them in 207 00:16:19.070 --> 00:16:23.149 priority. was feeling alone. Right, yeah, so you know how we 208 00:16:23.269 --> 00:16:26.269 deal with that. Oh, yeah, I mean that's a common thing. 209 00:16:26.389 --> 00:16:27.830 And you know, if you think about it, you know some of the 210 00:16:27.950 --> 00:16:33.340 Times where you're the most fearful is when you're alone, when you feel alone. 211 00:16:33.419 --> 00:16:36.460 You know, sometimes it's just a lie. You know, you hear 212 00:16:36.500 --> 00:16:41.059 about, you read stories about people that you know attempt or even commit suicide. 213 00:16:41.059 --> 00:16:44.539 One of the main things that they site is the idea that they feel 214 00:16:44.539 --> 00:16:47.570 alone. I feel all alone. It might not even be true, though. 215 00:16:47.610 --> 00:16:49.529 You know, might be surrounded by people, but this loneliness is kind 216 00:16:49.529 --> 00:16:52.730 of turned inward. When the same way, though, when we deal with 217 00:16:52.769 --> 00:16:56.889 abortion minded women, that's one of the common thing. It is I feel 218 00:16:56.929 --> 00:17:00.049 alone, I don't feel like there's an a longer with me, and you 219 00:17:00.409 --> 00:17:03.240 could be because they actually are alone. They've been abandoned by their boyfriend. 220 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:07.279 A lot of times that happen, that does Yep, and or parent or 221 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:10.960 a parent. Yeah, and the people that they trust to be there with 222 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:12.799 them and help them to do the right thing or the people that betray that 223 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:17.950 trust and then they feel hey, I'm alone. Right, and it is 224 00:17:18.029 --> 00:17:21.230 a common like I mentioned, it's a common factor. is we're talking through. 225 00:17:21.349 --> 00:17:22.789 You don't feel like there's anybody going to be there with me. Yeah, 226 00:17:23.309 --> 00:17:26.109 and so, yeah, well, I mean it's cool that we can 227 00:17:26.150 --> 00:17:30.420 answer that. Yeah, and say you don't have to be alone. Yeah, 228 00:17:30.740 --> 00:17:33.180 you know, we okay, as a ministry, we're sidewalk counselors. 229 00:17:34.019 --> 00:17:38.940 We can't, like physically, we cannot be on the sidewalk and the side 230 00:17:38.940 --> 00:17:41.740 of a mom that chooses life. We used to do that. We used 231 00:17:41.779 --> 00:17:45.730 to do that before love life. Charlotte came along and it was it was 232 00:17:45.809 --> 00:17:48.490 sitting. It was a joy but an enormous burden. You can. Could 233 00:17:48.650 --> 00:17:52.410 do it long yeah. Yeah, and we would lose sidewalk counselors left and 234 00:17:52.450 --> 00:17:56.009 right because, you know, they'd have a mom that chose life, they 235 00:17:56.049 --> 00:17:59.519 would walk with their some of them even let them stay in their homes. 236 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:03.319 And, yeah, as awesome, right, but it's not sustainable now to 237 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:07.039 be able to pour yourself out in the capacity that it takes on the sidewalk. 238 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.599 It's an emotional spiritual drain, I mean it is just being out there, 239 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.789 and then to do that and to go and try to disciple and mentor 240 00:18:15.910 --> 00:18:19.470 a young lady that just chose life is really difficult. Yeah, then, 241 00:18:19.509 --> 00:18:22.390 of course, you know, love life comes along and they have their mentor 242 00:18:22.670 --> 00:18:26.220 program and they're asking for churches that are doing the prayer walks and stuff that, 243 00:18:26.299 --> 00:18:30.099 hey, take it a step further and raise up mentors so that now 244 00:18:30.299 --> 00:18:33.819 we can say you won't be alone. We have a list of mentors and 245 00:18:33.900 --> 00:18:37.180 we plug them into a mentor, Somebody that follows up with them and encourages 246 00:18:37.299 --> 00:18:40.220 them, goes out to eat with them, you know, take some for 247 00:18:40.339 --> 00:18:42.930 coffee, whatever, and they're not alone. Yeah, right, and there's 248 00:18:42.930 --> 00:18:47.769 the body of Christ working together. The sidewalk counselor has helped her to make 249 00:18:47.809 --> 00:18:53.529 that choice for life and then handed it off to a mentor and there's another 250 00:18:53.690 --> 00:18:57.880 part of the body of Christ coming and meeting that young lady's needs and how 251 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:04.519 incredibly freeing that is for us as a sidewalk counselor, because the burden of 252 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:11.109 following through which, like I said, it is a joy in a privilege, 253 00:19:11.230 --> 00:19:15.390 but it it requires a lot of time and effort and and you can't 254 00:19:15.509 --> 00:19:19.990 you just the spiritual energy even to be a sidewall counselor, which is so 255 00:19:21.190 --> 00:19:26.660 spiritually draining, and to be the guide that's going to walk alongside this mom 256 00:19:27.220 --> 00:19:32.619 in our last podcast with Ebony, which is a great podcast, so encouraging, 257 00:19:32.740 --> 00:19:34.859 I hope everyone listens to that one. But one of the things she 258 00:19:34.980 --> 00:19:41.490 said was she felt all alone and she she became suicidal she thought she felt 259 00:19:41.490 --> 00:19:44.250 like she was all alone in this. And then one of the things we 260 00:19:44.410 --> 00:19:47.329 did was assign a mentor to her. She says that mentor talks to every 261 00:19:47.369 --> 00:19:49.930 day. Yeah, every single day. Yes, her friend. So the 262 00:19:51.210 --> 00:19:56.599 the mentor was an immediate offer that I could make right to this mom who's 263 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:00.119 feeling all alone. Then the the second thing that I think that she put 264 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:07.430 in the order of priority was how would she be able to get the baby 265 00:20:07.109 --> 00:20:12.269 the many things that a new baby would need? Yeah, and we know 266 00:20:12.390 --> 00:20:17.430 what to do there too. We do so we have as a ministries matter 267 00:20:17.430 --> 00:20:21.819 of fact, right behind the wall that we're we're against her recording, this 268 00:20:22.660 --> 00:20:26.059 is our baby shower ministry area with all these these baby items that people donated, 269 00:20:26.059 --> 00:20:30.539 and we praise God for that. It's filled with them. It's amazing. 270 00:20:30.660 --> 00:20:33.940 And not only do we have that baby shower thing, but those are 271 00:20:33.019 --> 00:20:37.049 donations, you know, a whole. Yeah, there's another component exact, 272 00:20:37.170 --> 00:20:41.849 but you know, even before we touch that, we have another wonderful lady 273 00:20:41.849 --> 00:20:45.089 which hopefully to have on a podcast. Yeah, you soume because she's been 274 00:20:45.130 --> 00:20:51.240 in prolife ministry and just really set their downs thirty years. Yeah, more. 275 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:56.240 And she has a baby shower ministry, treat the mercy prolife ministries and 276 00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:59.079 she does baby shower. So we, you know, for mom chooses life, 277 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:02.400 she's the first resource we go to for that. The stuff that we 278 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:04.710 have is just sort of a backup in case maybe she can't do the baby 279 00:21:04.710 --> 00:21:08.589 shower because she's already doing one or, you know, there may be far 280 00:21:08.750 --> 00:21:11.829 out of town or something like that. But right this sort of supplemental. 281 00:21:11.869 --> 00:21:15.269 What she does is also, and again, another part of the body of 282 00:21:15.309 --> 00:21:18.099 Christ and totally totally Gospel centered. And you know, that's one thing I 283 00:21:18.180 --> 00:21:22.859 want to say. When we're looking for resources and we're making connections, you 284 00:21:22.940 --> 00:21:25.819 know, cities for life, we have what we call our life network and 285 00:21:25.940 --> 00:21:29.740 it's a network of ministries that we've connected with help meet needs and all that, 286 00:21:30.220 --> 00:21:34.490 we always prioritize Gospel centered ministries, not you know, it's not like 287 00:21:34.890 --> 00:21:40.130 we're saying you need to make them you get them saved or else you won't 288 00:21:40.170 --> 00:21:42.089 help them. That's that's a lie. Right then, we'll still help them. 289 00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:48.079 We've there. Apis right. We want to season everything that we do 290 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:51.119 with the Gospel. I don't know, Cheryl is just so awesome in the 291 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:52.519 way she lays out the gospel. You know, she goes and does a 292 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.680 baby shower and then she takes them, typically takes them out for lunch after 293 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:00.400 the baby shower and just lays out the purity message, you know, the 294 00:22:00.470 --> 00:22:03.670 idea that we need to be doing things according to God's design and God's plan, 295 00:22:03.750 --> 00:22:07.950 which is sex inside of marriage, which is overwhelming. The people that 296 00:22:08.069 --> 00:22:11.710 we encounter are in that situation. Right. So she lays that out very 297 00:22:11.829 --> 00:22:18.619 graciously but very forthrightly, and then she presents the Gospel and you know, 298 00:22:18.700 --> 00:22:22.900 I share that. It's just again this this body of Christ connection, yeah, 299 00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:26.700 is always going to be focused and always should be focused on Christ himself 300 00:22:26.740 --> 00:22:30.650 exactly. Now there I will say that we do have resources that are in 301 00:22:30.690 --> 00:22:36.809 the community that are not necessarily Christian resources. Like I we do provide some 302 00:22:36.930 --> 00:22:41.170 of those things in our general resource list. So we don't reject them, 303 00:22:41.250 --> 00:22:45.640 but but when we have fartize them, right, whenever there is like housing 304 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:49.519 ministries, for example, if there's a housing ministry, that's maybe it's a 305 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:53.799 or not ministry, but organization that's a governmental or whatever, you know, 306 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:57.710 if she needs housing. Yeah, and we can't find anything, that's the 307 00:22:57.789 --> 00:23:02.390 Gospel Center. You know, maybe there's no openings for some of the Gospel 308 00:23:02.390 --> 00:23:04.990 Centered Housing options that we that we know about, then yeah, I mean, 309 00:23:06.109 --> 00:23:07.430 yeah, we're not going to won't. Don't want it to be homeless. 310 00:23:07.549 --> 00:23:11.509 So we'll connected. They will always prioritize always because again, that that 311 00:23:12.099 --> 00:23:18.140 is the body of Christ working together. Yeah, and because we absolutely believe 312 00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:21.900 that if you're going to change the soul of America, the hearts and minds 313 00:23:22.099 --> 00:23:26.369 towards life as opposed to the death of abortion, you have to change a 314 00:23:26.450 --> 00:23:32.130 whole world view and that world view is the the God given World View. 315 00:23:32.730 --> 00:23:37.170 Yeah, I'm precious. Life is sacred before God. So so the baby 316 00:23:37.210 --> 00:23:41.359 shower is awesome and I love what Sheryl also the as the Bible often works, 317 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:47.839 symbols are are used to promote a message. And she says this this 318 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:52.240 vast the IT fills a room. When Cheryl does a baby shower, there's 319 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:56.630 two full years of everything that that baby will need, pretty much. Yeah, 320 00:23:56.750 --> 00:24:00.470 and that's closed in equipment. And shary will say, as you look 321 00:24:00.509 --> 00:24:03.910 at this, I want you to envision. This is a this is a 322 00:24:04.109 --> 00:24:11.019 visual picture of the abundant, lavish love of God. Yeah, so she's 323 00:24:11.180 --> 00:24:18.700 already kind of watered that mind for for blooming into the truth of, yeah, 324 00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:21.940 of what Christ has done for her. Yeah, it's really incredible. 325 00:24:22.819 --> 00:24:26.049 So we were able to right away tell this woman you're not going to need 326 00:24:26.130 --> 00:24:30.809 to buy a single thing for your baby except diapers, and you don't even 327 00:24:30.849 --> 00:24:33.170 need to buy usually the first couple months of diapers. We usually do provide 328 00:24:33.250 --> 00:24:38.599 that. But for two years everything that baby is going to need except diapers 329 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:44.440 is going to be provided. That alone has changed people from death to life 330 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.799 so often it's one of the most powerful things I think. I think that 331 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:52.559 we have to offer. So the next thing that she talked about was the 332 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:57.190 feeling of she did not want to be alone, but specifically she did not 333 00:24:57.309 --> 00:25:00.950 want to be a single mother. Right, and here was this relation ship 334 00:25:02.029 --> 00:25:07.420 damaged, but a relationship with the father, and she would they were still 335 00:25:07.579 --> 00:25:12.740 in a relationship, okay, but she she said, he just they are 336 00:25:12.859 --> 00:25:18.220 constantly at odds and she recognized sometimes, she said, I I'm doing things 337 00:25:18.259 --> 00:25:22.450 I don't even want to do. I'm misinterpreting things he said I'm getting hurt 338 00:25:22.009 --> 00:25:26.690 that he gets mad. Right, yeah, we all fish are cycle of 339 00:25:26.930 --> 00:25:30.369 Yah hurt and then hurting others, right, right. And and she really 340 00:25:30.410 --> 00:25:36.200 didn't know and he didn't know how to get out of this damaging cycle. 341 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:41.039 Right. And so, through a couple of churches we have free or low 342 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.279 cost, on sliding scale basis, counseling. Yeah, with with actual, 343 00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:51.549 you know, certified counselors. Right. Yeah. So we were able to 344 00:25:51.630 --> 00:25:53.390 offer that. And again, that is another part of the body. It 345 00:25:53.549 --> 00:25:59.390 is absolute is Christians who are volunteering pastors that have dealt with situations like this 346 00:25:59.509 --> 00:26:03.309 and they're willing to sit down and talk through and lay out a plan of 347 00:26:03.349 --> 00:26:07.900 action to try to reconcile the relationship. Yes, not just for you know, 348 00:26:07.019 --> 00:26:11.980 these boyfriend girlfriend relationships that ultimately need to be made right before God in 349 00:26:12.099 --> 00:26:15.619 marriage, right, but it's even husband wife relationships that they're willing to do 350 00:26:15.700 --> 00:26:22.609 with mother daughter relationships. Those can be also also a point of contention and 351 00:26:22.690 --> 00:26:25.890 drive a woman to an abortion clinic. Yet her relationship with their parents or 352 00:26:25.930 --> 00:26:29.730 whatever. So, yeah, that's an awesome resource there. Yeah, to 353 00:26:29.809 --> 00:26:32.490 be a wan to say hey, listen, we can't talk through it all 354 00:26:32.529 --> 00:26:36.759 right here in front of the abortion center. But we know people who can 355 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:40.319 and we'll talk through with you and lay out a plan and all of that 356 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:44.000 right, exactly so. And you know, of course, there's people that 357 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.150 I have heard say, well, no one needs to counselor they just need 358 00:26:47.269 --> 00:26:49.670 the Lord and on. You know, on one level I get that they 359 00:26:49.750 --> 00:26:53.150 do of course need the Lord, but it I as I spoke to this 360 00:26:53.390 --> 00:26:57.390 woman, I said there's no shame in counseling and it sometimes it is so 361 00:26:57.589 --> 00:27:03.180 good to have a third party who is completely unbiased, unconnected. Yeah, 362 00:27:03.220 --> 00:27:07.299 to you both to be able to given an unbiased just look at your interactions 363 00:27:07.380 --> 00:27:11.900 and how they could become more healthy. Yeah, absolutely, we you know, 364 00:27:11.940 --> 00:27:14.900 the Bible all through, especially in the book of proverbs, talks about 365 00:27:14.980 --> 00:27:18.250 counselors. It does. Now there's some there's some wack job stuff out there 366 00:27:18.369 --> 00:27:22.809 that people do that it's called counseling and it's spent a psychobabel garbage. Yeah, 367 00:27:23.250 --> 00:27:27.329 but then there is good, Biblical, Godly counsels. Matter of fact, 368 00:27:27.369 --> 00:27:32.119 again proverbs tells us to seek how godly counsel. And again as a 369 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.440 ministry, when we're as a part of that, the body of Christ, 370 00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.640 connecting them to another part of the body of Christ. It's going to be 371 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.559 a part of the body of Christ. You want to make sure it's a 372 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.630 it's Christian counseling that's exactly going to lead them in the right direction. Yeah, 373 00:27:44.630 --> 00:27:48.069 yeah, this is one area that we don't even list a secular counselor 374 00:27:48.109 --> 00:27:52.390 are our counselors are only Christian counselors, because because who knows, you know, 375 00:27:52.430 --> 00:27:55.029 you might refer someone to counseling and they end up counsel them in the 376 00:27:55.109 --> 00:27:57.109 going back to the abortion exactly. You know, they can certainly don't want 377 00:27:57.109 --> 00:28:00.740 to run of that situation. We don't want to do that, not at 378 00:28:00.740 --> 00:28:07.220 all. Okay, so then then she said this was someone who had older 379 00:28:07.299 --> 00:28:14.049 children and here she is entering now again with a baby and she worked and 380 00:28:14.329 --> 00:28:18.289 she just said, I don't know how I could afford child care. Yeah, 381 00:28:18.410 --> 00:28:23.049 it's, it's we're already struggling to make ends ands meat and so we 382 00:28:23.450 --> 00:28:27.000 know child cares a big issue right and in. Oh, I mean that's 383 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:33.039 a that's a real comments. Probably not top on the list initially when you 384 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.559 talk to a person, when you talk to a woman, come to an 385 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:40.160 abortion clinic, but once you start talking and getting really into it, it 386 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.349 really is a big issue because of the the cost of child here. I 387 00:28:44.430 --> 00:28:47.910 know it is really expensive to put your kids in day care. It is, 388 00:28:48.109 --> 00:28:49.349 it is, and but it's also if you don't put your kids in 389 00:28:49.390 --> 00:28:53.750 daycare and you've got to work a lot of what the women were ministering to 390 00:28:53.829 --> 00:28:57.220 her, single MOMS right, where they going to go? I mean they 391 00:28:57.339 --> 00:29:02.339 it's a necessity and it's a pretty expensive necessity. Right. So we knew 392 00:29:02.420 --> 00:29:07.099 that. We saw and we saw that there was actually a gap. There 393 00:29:07.579 --> 00:29:12.890 wasn't affordable child care. And we had we appointed volunteers that went out and 394 00:29:14.809 --> 00:29:18.009 talked to churches, yeah, and said Hey, you could be a part 395 00:29:18.009 --> 00:29:21.849 of the body of Christ here and helping women choose life. You already have 396 00:29:21.970 --> 00:29:25.599 a child care a lot of churches do. Oh Yeah, and and talk 397 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:30.440 to quite a few churches into offering one free child care resource. Yeah, 398 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:34.839 to skylar scholarship, scholarship to to a mom who chose life, and we've 399 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.670 had some of the mom's take advantage of that. So again the again, 400 00:29:38.750 --> 00:29:41.269 that's the body of Christ. Now, yeah, you remember, guys, 401 00:29:41.309 --> 00:29:45.589 you're listening through and we're talking about these things this is an actual woman, 402 00:29:45.630 --> 00:29:48.190 when this is not just a pretend story that we made up. This is 403 00:29:48.230 --> 00:29:52.109 a real woman with these real needs, and this is common. And if 404 00:29:52.150 --> 00:29:56.220 you do prolife ministry and if you're whether you're sidewall counselor or whether you're, 405 00:29:56.339 --> 00:29:59.380 you know, again, ministring out a pregnancy center or whatever, you're going 406 00:29:59.380 --> 00:30:00.819 to encounter and you're probably like yes, and Amen. Right now. You 407 00:30:00.900 --> 00:30:03.980 have experience that. I know what you're talking about. And you know, 408 00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:10.450 Jesus said you have not because you asked not right. Yeah, as we're 409 00:30:10.490 --> 00:30:14.170 looking for these resources in these different things, as needs have come up, 410 00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:18.410 what we've learned to do is just put ourselves in the uncomfortable zip position to 411 00:30:18.490 --> 00:30:22.519 ask people. Ask Churches, Hey, you got a day care? How 412 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.039 about giving a scholarship to a mom who's was going to have an abortion, 413 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.000 now she's choose a life and she needs to put that child in child care. 414 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.599 How about doing that? And Yeah, but also even asking like you 415 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.799 did. I love to put you on the SPOTY, you'd ask people for 416 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.230 me. But finding someone who would do the child care thright, digging for 417 00:30:37.309 --> 00:30:41.670 that, you know, volunteer. Yeah, you putting you know, that's 418 00:30:41.670 --> 00:30:44.950 again that's the body of Christ. This lady who does, who did a 419 00:30:44.990 --> 00:30:48.190 lot of the calls try to find the child care in the churches, who 420 00:30:48.309 --> 00:30:49.779 was somebody who was burdened to be out there on the sidewalk, right. 421 00:30:49.819 --> 00:30:53.380 Yeah, and then she couldn't any longer because of her family situation. Yea. 422 00:30:55.660 --> 00:30:56.859 She said, what can I do? And that was a thing, 423 00:30:56.980 --> 00:31:00.859 and yeah, you find child care, and she jumped right on it. 424 00:31:00.019 --> 00:31:03.450 She did. And the the amazing you said, ask asking, you shall 425 00:31:03.490 --> 00:31:07.849 receive, or whatever you said. It was a similar sort of and when 426 00:31:07.970 --> 00:31:14.730 I when I asked her to do that, I had a mom on board 427 00:31:14.809 --> 00:31:18.240 the RV who, she said, find me child care, I'm a boarding. 428 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.119 Yeah, and I called this volunteer and said we need child care in 429 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.480 this location and we need it today. Yeah, and do you know she 430 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.880 found a church within fifteen minutes, an hour or something like that. Yeah, 431 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.990 that would that said sure, sure, we'll do that. And we 432 00:31:34.069 --> 00:31:37.150 were able to go to that mother and say we found you child care, 433 00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:41.670 I think before she even left the RV. Right. So Lazy and how, 434 00:31:41.069 --> 00:31:44.150 you know, does that happen? On it every time? Know, 435 00:31:44.309 --> 00:31:47.660 but it happens a lot. He does it happens a lot. Yeah. 436 00:31:48.099 --> 00:31:52.819 So, so child care then, and, and I love what you said. 437 00:31:52.940 --> 00:31:56.819 Yes, this was a real mom who listed this list of needs, 438 00:31:57.259 --> 00:32:01.410 and here we are being able to check off one after another. This is 439 00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:08.089 what we can do. Right, okay. Her next thing was financial concerns, 440 00:32:08.529 --> 00:32:13.009 and and one of those with of course, with the coronavirus, especially 441 00:32:13.009 --> 00:32:16.519 because she had other children at home, was food. And that day, 442 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.839 I believe it was that day, I got a call from a ministry I 443 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:29.039 had been aware of. It's a Christian Ministry and I wish financial health. 444 00:32:30.269 --> 00:32:32.750 I believe. Financial Health Ministries, I believe, is the name of it, 445 00:32:34.029 --> 00:32:36.670 and maybe we can find that and I'll link it in the in an 446 00:32:36.710 --> 00:32:40.950 article. Okay. But she said they had collected bags and bags and bags 447 00:32:40.990 --> 00:32:45.940 of staples, of food, including paper towels. where she found the paper 448 00:32:45.980 --> 00:32:49.059 towels? I don't know. Every telet paper in there too. When we 449 00:32:49.099 --> 00:32:52.019 think that get me. But she said, do you have ten moms that 450 00:32:52.460 --> 00:32:57.539 that need this stuff? And of course we did, including that woman on 451 00:32:57.539 --> 00:33:00.289 the RV, and and I told her, by the way, we can 452 00:33:00.369 --> 00:33:04.009 have food and paper towels delivered to your home today. How does that sound? 453 00:33:04.809 --> 00:33:07.049 So again, that wasn't me, right, it was that this woman 454 00:33:07.130 --> 00:33:10.009 had contacted me. She said I don't know how she even heard about us, 455 00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:15.319 but said we would love to bless mobs. That, she's like, 456 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:21.359 yeah, as pretty amazing. Yeah, it was pretty amazing. She she 457 00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:27.869 did not know about pregnancy Medicaid, which a lot of them don't know about, 458 00:33:27.990 --> 00:33:30.829 and a lot of low income people, and it doesn't take much actually 459 00:33:30.869 --> 00:33:37.349 to qualify for pregnancy Medicaid. You can be well in the end, you 460 00:33:37.430 --> 00:33:39.950 know, high up on the income bracket to get pregnancy medicated right here. 461 00:33:40.150 --> 00:33:44.140 Right. So she hadn't known about that and she was saying, I I 462 00:33:44.259 --> 00:33:47.140 can't afford prenatal care. Right. Well, she didn't know about pregnancy medicated 463 00:33:47.180 --> 00:33:50.779 and we help them fill that form out. We tell them where to go 464 00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:55.289 and and and how to apply for it, and so that's how the prenatal 465 00:33:55.569 --> 00:33:59.049 yeah, medical care. Yeah, well, that's one of the things that 466 00:33:59.130 --> 00:34:04.009 actually we've encounter people coming to the abortion clinic, that the abortion clinics used 467 00:34:04.009 --> 00:34:07.369 to draw people in. It's, you know, they'll kind of capitalize on 468 00:34:07.570 --> 00:34:13.559 her lack of solid decision. Yeah, her like of knowledge. You know, 469 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.079 she may be is not thinking. She's thinking maybe I'll have an abortion 470 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:20.280 and that's why she's come to an abortion. But maybe I want and if 471 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.480 she, if she could get, you know, the different things that would 472 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.989 help meet her knees, she would not have the abortion. But they'll draw 473 00:34:25.070 --> 00:34:28.309 them in at the abortion clinic and say, well, you can just come, 474 00:34:29.110 --> 00:34:30.230 you can get your pregnant, you're going to need a pregnancy test, 475 00:34:30.510 --> 00:34:35.550 you can need confirmation of pregnancy and then if you decide to keep the pregnancy, 476 00:34:35.670 --> 00:34:37.909 that's how they'll word it. If you decide to keep the pregnancy, 477 00:34:37.989 --> 00:34:40.059 then you can just you have the Medicaid, confirmation and pregnancy and leave. 478 00:34:40.099 --> 00:34:44.019 But if you decide to have the abortion, we can help you with that 479 00:34:44.099 --> 00:34:45.019 too. And of course they get him in the door, they're going to 480 00:34:45.019 --> 00:34:49.099 sell them an abortion. Right, right. We can do all that stuff. 481 00:34:49.380 --> 00:34:52.579 Well, not we, but help pregnancy center and a lot of pregnancy 482 00:34:52.619 --> 00:34:55.170 centers can do that stuff. Give her Medicaid, confirmation of pregnancy so she 483 00:34:55.250 --> 00:35:00.250 don't feel like she has to be in the abortion clinic ultimately get pitched an 484 00:35:00.250 --> 00:35:02.530 abortion by them. Yeah, you know, they lay out a real dire 485 00:35:02.690 --> 00:35:05.849 case for you. Look right, you know, got this going on your 486 00:35:05.849 --> 00:35:08.800 life and that going on their business and they're going to try to pitch their 487 00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:14.679 their you know, abortions exactly. These women who, yeah, you know, 488 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:19.719 again, we can get them that information. Yeah, and even have 489 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:23.670 to go in there, right. And I don't think in this case that 490 00:35:24.630 --> 00:35:30.590 she needed a second opinion or was concerned because she was a high risk pregnancy. 491 00:35:30.670 --> 00:35:36.139 But actually we do hear that a lot. Yeah, and we sometimes 492 00:35:36.179 --> 00:35:39.739 get people who are in the country illegally, not citizens, can't get pregnancy 493 00:35:39.820 --> 00:35:45.900 medic right. Yeah, and so they are another problem that actually we have 494 00:35:46.019 --> 00:35:50.889 a solution for. I mean, so we do have people that fit in 495 00:35:50.969 --> 00:35:54.769 the gap who, you know, maybe make too much money to get Medicaid. 496 00:35:54.929 --> 00:36:00.050 That very rarely, if ever, happens, right, or, you 497 00:36:00.090 --> 00:36:04.320 know, they're Eli, they're here illegally. More commonly they're here really they 498 00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.880 get medicate coverage and of course they can't afford to buy insurance and they can't 499 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:13.559 afford the prenatal care. Right. So we have the free prenatal clinic with 500 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:15.960 help, pregnancy center. Again, yeah, and you know, we can 501 00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:20.550 plug him in there. We've done that quite a few times. And another 502 00:36:20.789 --> 00:36:25.829 part of the Christian body, a wonderful pro life doctor who volunteers his time. 503 00:36:27.070 --> 00:36:30.789 Yeah, to do that, Dr Matt Harrison? Who? Who Will 504 00:36:30.869 --> 00:36:35.059 See those women for free? Yeah, at this. I mean that's an 505 00:36:35.099 --> 00:36:37.900 amazing resource. It is. And that natal care. Surely there's a pro 506 00:36:38.019 --> 00:36:43.579 life doctors in every community who maybe could volunteer at least a little time to 507 00:36:44.059 --> 00:36:45.699 see a mom. That's one of those situations. You know, you guys 508 00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:50.130 who are listening and maybe in vs. Well, I don't have a doctor 509 00:36:50.170 --> 00:36:52.010 that can do that. Do from Prenatal Care, even a second opinion, 510 00:36:52.369 --> 00:36:54.489 because you know, we had a story, which we shared it out on 511 00:36:54.530 --> 00:36:59.610 our newsletter last last week. It went right right, of a guy who 512 00:36:59.730 --> 00:37:02.119 was standing in front of the abortion clinic and him and his wife did not 513 00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:06.960 want to have an abortion. Right, she was more abortion minded than he. 514 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.440 And then you share with him about the hey get a second opinion because 515 00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:14.840 she had some complications and some things. She had some pretty significant medical fears. 516 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.190 But even when I heard them, I thought, you know, abortion 517 00:37:19.389 --> 00:37:22.190 and and she was being advised by a doctor from another country, right, 518 00:37:22.349 --> 00:37:27.670 who had never seen her, that she had to go get an abortion because 519 00:37:28.070 --> 00:37:30.260 this is what he thought she had, right, yeah, and so to 520 00:37:30.420 --> 00:37:35.059 be able to get a second opinion was powerful actually it was private. Maybe 521 00:37:35.260 --> 00:37:37.699 life, without a doubt. Yeah, and so maybe you're listening to that 522 00:37:37.780 --> 00:37:42.500 in your kind of envious that resource has come about out of need and you 523 00:37:42.579 --> 00:37:45.170 know you have not, because you ask me. So. Yeah, you 524 00:37:45.289 --> 00:37:49.409 know, there are websites out there that will talk, will show you where 525 00:37:49.489 --> 00:37:53.329 prolife doctors are. Pro I think there's a whole pro life obgyn network. 526 00:37:53.730 --> 00:37:58.329 Yeah, find some of those doctors, call him up, you know, 527 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:02.159 and say, Hey, I need somebody that can be on call, somebody 528 00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:06.920 that can you know. Yeah, they may not be able to do that, 529 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:09.599 but they may be able to do it. Maybe more than happy to 530 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:13.710 be kind of an on call doctor where you can hand the phone off to 531 00:38:13.789 --> 00:38:15.429 them. I'd say talking to a mom. Yeah. Well, in this 532 00:38:15.909 --> 00:38:21.190 case, the the doctor, Dr Matt was was actually, I think, 533 00:38:21.349 --> 00:38:24.269 sequestered because of coronavirus. He didn't have it. He's treating it right and 534 00:38:24.469 --> 00:38:28.820 and he was not going to be able to see them for a couple of 535 00:38:28.900 --> 00:38:30.340 weeks. But he did set up an appointment to see them in a couple 536 00:38:30.380 --> 00:38:36.219 weeks. But he just talked to them and that alone was enough. He 537 00:38:37.019 --> 00:38:39.780 told them what he thought might be the issue. He he told us where 538 00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:45.889 to send them. We made some calls, sent them there immediately and and 539 00:38:46.210 --> 00:38:52.409 they chose life and and said this issue can be dealt with. So the 540 00:38:52.650 --> 00:38:59.320 next thing that they mentioned was that she was struggling to find a job. 541 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.400 Yeah, which is really it. That's definitely hard in the crime mean yeah, 542 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:06.880 nowadays, this is, we're here in this more and more and more 543 00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.550 and more common. Hey, I don't have work. Yeah, we encountered 544 00:39:09.590 --> 00:39:14.949 a couple the other day, yeah, who both the boyfriend and girl for 545 00:39:14.989 --> 00:39:19.269 her husband. That was Saturday, right. Both of them were not employed. 546 00:39:19.349 --> 00:39:21.909 Yeah, because of this coronavirusys. Well, okay, that might be 547 00:39:21.989 --> 00:39:23.739 a different one. But Saturday, though, the woman said she wants to 548 00:39:23.820 --> 00:39:27.659 work and she can't, and I said, well, it was on tiring, 549 00:39:27.980 --> 00:39:30.900 but I also said we have a job's lady who will have to find 550 00:39:30.940 --> 00:39:34.420 a job. That job's lady, Tara, contacted her yesterday. I got 551 00:39:34.460 --> 00:39:36.539 a touch from her. Oh, I got a job, so, I 552 00:39:36.659 --> 00:39:40.610 mean he's she saw her Saturday and she had apparently been trying for, yeah, 553 00:39:40.610 --> 00:39:45.250 quite some time. And that's another volunteer. That's another lady who who 554 00:39:45.530 --> 00:39:47.289 you would want to be on the sidewalk. She can't be on the sidewalk, 555 00:39:49.090 --> 00:39:53.320 but she has time that she would invest in this pursuit of fun and 556 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:58.199 jobs and and that takes again, that takes the pressure offer our sidewall counselors 557 00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:00.199 to have to dig for that information. Right, and it's again it's that 558 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:04.960 the body of Christ. You know, Tara, who finds the job, 559 00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:09.190 is like she she's an arm there, she's here or whatever, and he 560 00:40:09.429 --> 00:40:13.989 is and doing that work. And Our lady who finds the Child Care, 561 00:40:14.030 --> 00:40:16.829 that's another it's she's a she's a hand, she's a leg, she's something. 562 00:40:17.150 --> 00:40:21.070 She's a part of that body of Christ working together, yeah, to 563 00:40:21.269 --> 00:40:24.219 help meet this mom's need and ultimately, you know, glorified Jesus. That's 564 00:40:24.300 --> 00:40:29.460 the gold right of Christ. Yeah, then with all of these issues, 565 00:40:29.780 --> 00:40:32.500 you know, very limited money, they're really kind of just making ends meet. 566 00:40:32.619 --> 00:40:36.329 But now she has a job. That will help. But financial counseling 567 00:40:36.369 --> 00:40:39.289 and budgeting was mentioned. Well, guess what? Yeah, yeah, a 568 00:40:39.369 --> 00:40:43.969 lady who used to be on the sidewalk and again, I think because she 569 00:40:44.530 --> 00:40:47.130 works full time in financial counseling, but she also just had a new baby 570 00:40:47.170 --> 00:40:52.920 and she couldn't be on the sidewalk anymore, and so she volunteers to take 571 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.880 these women do a budget, which helps us to make wise decisions, by 572 00:40:55.960 --> 00:41:00.519 the way, and where we allocate resources. Sometimes absolutely arms. And Yeah, 573 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:05.670 before we will help them financially, try to get them financial help. 574 00:41:05.750 --> 00:41:09.110 We want to make sure financially it's going to be advantageous to do that. 575 00:41:09.269 --> 00:41:14.670 And right what can we do? And offer them wise counsel as far as 576 00:41:15.030 --> 00:41:17.190 doing what might with what money they have, doing what they need to do 577 00:41:17.309 --> 00:41:23.860 with that. So this young lady goes through their financial portfolio, whatever that 578 00:41:24.059 --> 00:41:27.739 is. Yeah, I have no clue what a portfolio, goes through their 579 00:41:27.780 --> 00:41:31.460 finances and and lays out a plan form. That's another she's, like you 580 00:41:31.619 --> 00:41:35.610 mentioned, she's another one of those people who carry out there, but she 581 00:41:35.690 --> 00:41:39.369 can't right now. Yeah, and using her skills, using her you know, 582 00:41:40.130 --> 00:41:45.050 giftings. Yeah, in the body of Christ, to glorify Jesus and 583 00:41:45.090 --> 00:41:49.480 help them. So there's two more. Okay, and I'll will I'll try 584 00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:51.519 and be quick on that. We don't want this to go on too long, 585 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:53.559 but as I'm talking with her, she did notline it as a need. 586 00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:57.400 But we get towards the end of the counseling and listening the obstacles and 587 00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:02.909 she said she'd had passed abortions and then started weeping right and and that's a 588 00:42:02.989 --> 00:42:07.150 common thing to very calm and a third of abortions are repeat abortions, so 589 00:42:07.389 --> 00:42:14.389 it's very common. And well, we have all kinds of post abord of 590 00:42:14.469 --> 00:42:20.579 counseling and help through Christian organizations and women who have volunteered their time to counsel 591 00:42:20.659 --> 00:42:24.860 these women and have programs, great programs. Surrendering the secret is one. 592 00:42:25.940 --> 00:42:31.690 Restored restored life. Restored life is is the other one. I think so, 593 00:42:32.849 --> 00:42:36.010 but or maybe I've got that wrong. Maybe they're both the same, 594 00:42:36.090 --> 00:42:39.010 but anyway they're they're Christian, two different okay, and they and they're Christians 595 00:42:39.210 --> 00:42:45.000 and focus volunteer their time and we were able to connect her with with that 596 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:46.679 resource. I don't know if she'll avail herself of it, but I was 597 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:51.480 able to tell her about it. And then the last thing that struck me 598 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.639 was you and I are able to be out there handing out expensive information, 599 00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:02.550 funding some of the things that we fund for this women because there are donors 600 00:43:02.590 --> 00:43:07.869 all over the world. I think, yeah, that that give financially and 601 00:43:07.070 --> 00:43:13.219 without those donations they're so much of what we do, we'd be unable, 602 00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:15.980 yeah, to do absolutely that another part of the body of Christ it is, 603 00:43:16.460 --> 00:43:21.780 and you know it's it's a necessary component. It's a component. You 604 00:43:21.860 --> 00:43:22.860 know, a lot of times I don't like to deal with. You don't 605 00:43:22.860 --> 00:43:25.460 like to do as far as donations and that sort of thing going. Just 606 00:43:25.539 --> 00:43:29.090 deal with money. And there's been so much, you know, to go 607 00:43:29.170 --> 00:43:30.969 on a little bit of a rabbit trail, there's been so much perversion of 608 00:43:31.130 --> 00:43:35.090 this aspect, of the financial aspect. You know, when you got, 609 00:43:35.210 --> 00:43:38.489 you know, quote, Christian ministries buying big jets and all this other stuff, 610 00:43:38.610 --> 00:43:43.360 just wasting money. Yeah, and so it kind of gets, I 611 00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:46.039 don't know that that aspect of the body of Christ work together, gets perverted 612 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:50.119 and manipulated. Yeah, but it is a necessary component. You know, 613 00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.639 we have people who can't be on the sidewalk for whatever reason that give to 614 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:57.550 support our ministry, and that happens, you know, with pregnancy centers and 615 00:43:58.150 --> 00:44:01.030 wherever you are, there's some component of people given money to support that ministry 616 00:44:01.469 --> 00:44:07.349 that literally we couldn't do without that financial support. And I do encourage those 617 00:44:07.429 --> 00:44:12.300 donors, you know, every so often just say thank you. What you're 618 00:44:12.340 --> 00:44:15.820 doing makes a difference for life. We literally couldn't do it without you. 619 00:44:15.900 --> 00:44:19.659 You're a part of the team. These people are. You know, Paul 620 00:44:20.099 --> 00:44:22.260 spoken those terms. We talked about those who supported him. You know, 621 00:44:22.340 --> 00:44:27.170 they supported him in the work that he was doing spreading the Gospel, and 622 00:44:28.170 --> 00:44:31.210 they are part of that mission. They were part of that mission. Yeah, 623 00:44:31.489 --> 00:44:36.090 and the folks who support US financially or are part of that mission. 624 00:44:36.170 --> 00:44:37.130 This is not a plug, by the way, for you to give to 625 00:44:37.210 --> 00:44:40.920 US financially, but if you want to do yeah, if you if you 626 00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:43.840 take it that way and if you want to, hey, we were not 627 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:45.239 going to stop you. We're not going to scratch the spirit. Yeah, 628 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:49.880 Amen, but this is a picture and I like the fact that we went 629 00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.190 through a real story with a real mom who got real help and showed the 630 00:44:53.269 --> 00:44:57.989 body of Christ working together. Now, listen, don't don't take that, 631 00:44:58.110 --> 00:45:00.550 which God intends to be an encouragement for you, and let it be a 632 00:45:00.670 --> 00:45:04.429 discouragement, because you might be thinking, you know, I'm on the sidewalk 633 00:45:04.510 --> 00:45:07.219 and there's like nobody helping me. There's no none of these ministries, none 634 00:45:07.219 --> 00:45:12.539 of these organizations, none of these resources you guys talk about or even available 635 00:45:12.619 --> 00:45:15.900 to me and just understand, though. It's taken US years, but this 636 00:45:15.980 --> 00:45:20.940 stuff together and it's been put together kind of on the fly. As the 637 00:45:21.099 --> 00:45:23.610 need arises, we try to make a connection. We've not always been able 638 00:45:23.650 --> 00:45:27.969 to make every connection, but it's been few and far between the we haven't 639 00:45:27.969 --> 00:45:30.170 been able to find something that's right the will meet a need. You know, 640 00:45:30.329 --> 00:45:32.969 especially here in the south, and I'm sure it's like that across the 641 00:45:34.289 --> 00:45:37.320 the nation, where you've got so many churches and within churches you've got in 642 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:42.800 individual ministries you've got clothed closets, you've got food pants, you've got, 643 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.199 you know, daycare restort. You got these things. You got to do 644 00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:49.960 some dig in, though, yea, and you got to put yourself out 645 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.309 there. As I said earlier, you have not because you ask not. 646 00:45:52.429 --> 00:45:55.190 So if you know, maybe there's a doctor in your church, mm, 647 00:45:55.670 --> 00:45:59.789 who you know has a heart for the unborn. If he's in your church, 648 00:45:59.869 --> 00:46:01.469 you should have a heart for the inform go up to him and say, 649 00:46:01.469 --> 00:46:05.699 Hey, it would be awesome if I could have you ownt call to 650 00:46:05.780 --> 00:46:08.019 be able to talk to a mom who has some situations in her life that 651 00:46:08.139 --> 00:46:12.780 a physician could help right. Just give all second incuations. Before I forget, 652 00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:14.980 by the way, I do want to give a plug to another kind 653 00:46:15.019 --> 00:46:19.809 of unsung little in the background body of the Christ and those are these little 654 00:46:19.809 --> 00:46:22.570 old ladies, not always little ladies, but I in fact my my niece 655 00:46:22.769 --> 00:46:27.889 is going to be doing this, that knit baby blankets and baby hats and 656 00:46:28.010 --> 00:46:30.570 call US supper right. Someone just sent me a box. Wonderful Janet is 657 00:46:30.610 --> 00:46:34.760 her name, sent me. It cost her thirty seven dollars to mail at 658 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:40.679 this box filled with homemade knitted things for babies and every mom that chooses life, 659 00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.119 we hand out these homemade gifts to their beautiful too, and it's just 660 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:50.349 such a picture of the body of Christ and the love of the body of 661 00:46:50.389 --> 00:46:53.469 Christ for this mother choosing life, but also something to for her to hang 662 00:46:53.550 --> 00:46:58.429 onto, to imagine she's going to put that around her little baby one day, 663 00:46:58.469 --> 00:47:01.139 and it's very POW solidify that decision. That's right. Yeah, yeah, 664 00:47:01.260 --> 00:47:04.500 so, you know, I hope we've painted a good picture for you 665 00:47:04.579 --> 00:47:07.019 guys. I hope it's been an encouragement to you guys. We have articles 666 00:47:07.139 --> 00:47:10.539 that we put an article out, it was months ago, on the sidewalks 667 00:47:10.579 --> 00:47:15.579 for life site about how how you get resources and how you find these different 668 00:47:15.619 --> 00:47:20.090 resources, and so check that article out. But it is a it is 669 00:47:20.130 --> 00:47:23.130 a matter of digging for these resources. Google is a great resource for you 670 00:47:23.210 --> 00:47:27.650 to be able to find these resources, you know, whatever the need might 671 00:47:27.809 --> 00:47:30.440 be. But again, we hope this was an encouragement. Do you guys? 672 00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.119 We don't encourage you guys to go to our sidewalks for life site. 673 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.280 CHECK US out there. Shoot me over an email if you've got any any 674 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.119 questions, or maybe you've got some suggestions for episodes that we could do deep 675 00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:45.230 parks at cities for Lifecom, you can email her vcasi orget cities for lifecom. 676 00:47:45.670 --> 00:47:49.269 But we appreciate you, guys. Listen and until next time, God 677 00:47:49.309 --> 00:48:01.460 bless me, ove for love, give me our lift. For gratitude. 678 00:48:05.539 --> 00:48:14.329 I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious. And some 679 00:48:14.889 --> 00:48:15.289 met you