March 26, 2020

SpongeBob SquarePants Pajamas and Balancing Truth and Grace

SpongeBob SquarePants Pajamas and Balancing Truth and Grace

The balance between truth and grace while confronting an evil like abortion isn't easy but with God's help, it is possible. Join us as we talk through how to truthfully and graciously bring God's truth into the abortion conversation. Wondering about...


The balance between truth and grace while confronting an evil like abortion isn't easy but with God's help, it is possible. Join us as we talk through how to truthfully and graciously bring God's truth into the abortion conversation. Wondering about the title? You'll just have to listen to see what that's about.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:05.000 When I see a young man walking his girlfriend into an abortion clinic with his 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:10.470 Pajama Pants on, his spongebob squarepants Pajama Pants on, that gets under my 3 00:00:10.669 --> 00:00:17.269 skin. I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours and welcome 4 00:00:17.309 --> 00:00:20.510 to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. In this episode we're going to talk 5 00:00:20.550 --> 00:00:25.579 about Balancing Truth and grace in pro life ministry. It's not an easy balance, 6 00:00:25.739 --> 00:00:28.940 but we believe the Bible gives us some good principles, so stick with 7 00:00:29.019 --> 00:00:31.940 us as we talk through this. Prince Bis, Send Me, Lord, 8 00:00:34.820 --> 00:00:47.049 I felt show Passish, touch your heart. Use Me. Welcome to the 9 00:00:47.090 --> 00:00:53.280 Gospel Center pro life podcast. We wanted to do an episode about Balancing Truth 10 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:57.920 and Grace when we're confronting evil, and you know, of course we're confronting 11 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:02.119 the evil of abortion. I believe it's the biggest evil in our day and 12 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:04.829 age that all Christians are called to confront, and some way, shape or 13 00:01:04.829 --> 00:01:08.349 form we're confront that on a regular basis on the sidewalks in front of the 14 00:01:08.349 --> 00:01:11.549 abortion clinic. Some of you guys are confront that evil and other context and 15 00:01:11.629 --> 00:01:15.510 we appreciate that. But we wanted to talk about the balance of truth and 16 00:01:17.030 --> 00:01:21.219 grace. We're called to speak the truth of God's Word and we're called to 17 00:01:21.260 --> 00:01:25.780 do it in grace. Paul says that we should speak the truth seasoned with 18 00:01:26.019 --> 00:01:29.780 grace. We should speak the truth in such a way that imparts grace to 19 00:01:29.819 --> 00:01:32.780 the here in one part. Yeah, at one point Paul says that, 20 00:01:33.569 --> 00:01:38.290 and I believe, by God's grace, that over the years I've certainly learned 21 00:01:38.489 --> 00:01:42.730 how to balance that. You know, it's one man said, if it's 22 00:01:42.769 --> 00:01:46.450 all truth and no grace, you become a bully, if it's all grace 23 00:01:46.569 --> 00:01:52.000 and no truth, you become a compromiser, something like that. I'm paraphrasing 24 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:55.319 exactly. She gets some point. PITHY, catchy way to say it's good, 25 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.599 but you get the point. Yeah, so we're called us to do 26 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:04.989 both. We're called extend grace. Were called to speak truth. And again, 27 00:02:05.150 --> 00:02:07.870 I think we've learned that. We've learned that dynamic by, you know, 28 00:02:08.030 --> 00:02:14.030 making the mistake of being maybe too one way or another or hearing others. 29 00:02:14.189 --> 00:02:17.740 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you know, I mentioned to you about 30 00:02:17.780 --> 00:02:21.419 how, you know, out in the the social media sphere and just some 31 00:02:21.539 --> 00:02:25.180 of the circles that we run in and that we are connected to. We 32 00:02:25.259 --> 00:02:30.449 see folks who maybe are in front of an abortion clinic or whatever context, 33 00:02:30.569 --> 00:02:32.849 and they're, you know, all truth and just stand out in front and 34 00:02:32.889 --> 00:02:36.930 just preach and doesn't matter how it's received. I'm just going to come there 35 00:02:36.969 --> 00:02:39.370 and I'm going to say abortions murder, it's wrong, it's in and you 36 00:02:39.409 --> 00:02:43.210 know I'm not, I'm not the accuser against that person. They're preaching the 37 00:02:43.289 --> 00:02:45.759 truth. Okay, I get that. And then, you know, also 38 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:49.439 see folks who, you know, it's the focus is on the women and 39 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.439 the focus is on hey, you know, I know you're a victim of 40 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.360 your circumstances, almost like the women are victims. And we've dealt with that 41 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.909 subject before. Yeah, and it seems like there's somewhere in the middle, 42 00:03:00.990 --> 00:03:05.430 like with a lot of the things that we deal with, that the Lord 43 00:03:05.509 --> 00:03:09.030 wants us to be somewhere in the middle on that balancing right and it's it 44 00:03:09.189 --> 00:03:13.259 is a balancing act, because I contend to be more on the hard side 45 00:03:13.699 --> 00:03:15.939 and more on the you know, the wrath of God, the judgment of 46 00:03:16.020 --> 00:03:19.180 God. And again, I'm not saying that it's wrong. We need to 47 00:03:19.219 --> 00:03:21.500 talk about the wrath of God. We need to talk about the judgment of 48 00:03:21.539 --> 00:03:23.259 God. We need to talk about Hell. There are times where we need 49 00:03:23.340 --> 00:03:30.250 to mention the impending judgment that comes on those who resist God's truth. Yeah, 50 00:03:30.530 --> 00:03:31.969 right. So I'm certainly not against that and not speaking against that, 51 00:03:32.009 --> 00:03:37.969 but the Lord has helped me to balance out well the message and to bring 52 00:03:38.210 --> 00:03:43.360 kind of both angles to bear to those they're going into abortion clinics. Right 53 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.439 as we were thinking about this, I was looking up some passages and just 54 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:51.520 thinking about well, what does the Bible have to say in regards to that 55 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.150 balance? Yeah, and and for me it's it's not only the balance of 56 00:03:57.389 --> 00:04:01.469 positive and negative in a sense, because there might be truths that are positive 57 00:04:01.509 --> 00:04:05.229 truths. Yeah, but there are negative truths. There are, you know, 58 00:04:05.430 --> 00:04:09.909 going to hell is one of those kind of negative truth yes, that 59 00:04:10.300 --> 00:04:15.139 if you continue and willful disobedience, but but also the timing of when those 60 00:04:15.339 --> 00:04:20.019 truths should be spoken. Yeah, and I think one of the greatest verses 61 00:04:20.139 --> 00:04:24.410 in the Bible about timing is in it. CLEA, she asked, he's 62 00:04:24.810 --> 00:04:30.329 okay. That that ecclesiast these three, just the first verse is probably enough. 63 00:04:30.370 --> 00:04:34.089 Yeah, Clesias, these three one did you for everything there is a 64 00:04:34.129 --> 00:04:39.399 season. Yeah, time for every matter under heaven. Of course we know 65 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:44.199 that. There's been songs written about that signes secular song. Another passage that 66 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.000 comes to mind for me, which I find myself quoting this a lot. 67 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.399 As a matter of fact, recently I have quoting it to myself and to 68 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:54.629 others, is a proverbs you proverbs book a wisdom gives us some just real 69 00:04:54.709 --> 00:04:57.790 practical wisdom. Here it says in proverbs twenty seven, verse fourteen. He 70 00:04:58.509 --> 00:05:00.829 who blesses his friend with a loud voice, rising early in the morning, 71 00:05:01.310 --> 00:05:04.910 it will be counted as a curse to him. And so what's that telling 72 00:05:04.949 --> 00:05:10.379 us? Wrong time, wrong place? Listen, there can be your and 73 00:05:10.779 --> 00:05:15.019 tone to you know, loudly right. So there might be folks that imagine 74 00:05:15.259 --> 00:05:19.139 that. You know, I guess not too long ago I was like this, 75 00:05:19.300 --> 00:05:23.410 our tone doesn't matter. You know, Jesus got angry sometimes. He 76 00:05:23.490 --> 00:05:27.209 had an angry tone sometimes, and I would justify an angry tone and angry 77 00:05:28.089 --> 00:05:31.930 demeanor. And you scripture, but I think this scripture really confronted me in 78 00:05:32.050 --> 00:05:35.800 this he who blesses his friend, this is a blessing. So this is 79 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:39.399 little different. A good thing that? Yeah, it's a good thing. 80 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:43.120 You. So you can say a good thing right, too loud, yeah, 81 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.040 and at the wrong time, and it's not resist and it's not received 82 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.790 very well. Imagine a bad thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and 83 00:05:49.910 --> 00:05:53.550 so imagine, you know, and listen, we go out to abortion clinics, 84 00:05:53.589 --> 00:05:57.389 we do ministry with good intentions. We want to see God, you, 85 00:05:57.430 --> 00:06:00.069 glorified, we want to see people save their babies, we want to 86 00:06:00.069 --> 00:06:02.029 see people turn to the Lord. Right. So we have good intentions and 87 00:06:02.189 --> 00:06:06.860 it's a good message. We're bringing this blessing of God's truth. But if 88 00:06:06.899 --> 00:06:11.420 you do it in an obnoxious tone where you're just loud, you're just out 89 00:06:11.459 --> 00:06:15.459 there to make noise, and you do it at the wrong time, you 90 00:06:15.540 --> 00:06:17.379 know, you could get yourself punch in the face. Yeah, yeah, 91 00:06:17.420 --> 00:06:23.649 but you can also just be completely rejected. Now balancing again. I think 92 00:06:23.689 --> 00:06:28.569 we do have to balance, because there is a pragmatism that the modern church 93 00:06:28.689 --> 00:06:31.290 is embraced where, you know, it's almost like we're willing to compromise the 94 00:06:31.329 --> 00:06:33.920 truth of God's Word just to get people to hear what we have to say. 95 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:39.279 And I'm not talking about that. But there are some practical, practically 96 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:44.600 wise things that we can do that will help us get the message across in 97 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.509 a more effective way. Sure, so you know, not being obnoxious and 98 00:06:48.709 --> 00:06:53.870 loud. Yeah, now you know we get loud, right, we have 99 00:06:53.990 --> 00:06:57.310 to raise our voice across the parking lot at the abortion clinic. We use 100 00:06:57.350 --> 00:07:01.819 amplified sound, but we do want to make sure our tone is inviting, 101 00:07:01.860 --> 00:07:05.579 right. So how do you how do you balance that? You know you 102 00:07:06.019 --> 00:07:10.019 want to invite them to come over and talk to you, but also you're 103 00:07:10.100 --> 00:07:15.339 not just like it's not just something you might want to consider, your commanded 104 00:07:15.810 --> 00:07:18.170 to tell people the truth. Or How do you balance inviting them, but 105 00:07:18.209 --> 00:07:23.449 all who telling them abortion is murdered? And that's really, at least from 106 00:07:23.490 --> 00:07:27.569 my heart, my goal with this podcast how to balance those two things. 107 00:07:27.610 --> 00:07:32.439 Yeah, and of course the Holy Spirit is is going to hopefully guide us 108 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.519 in that. But another, another thing I was thinking in terms of balance 109 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:43.000 is exactly what what you've talked about, but also the the balance of what 110 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:49.470 appeared to be almost conflicting concepts that we're introducing out there in in on the 111 00:07:49.509 --> 00:07:53.589 sidebox specifically, but all of us in the in the pro life movement. 112 00:07:54.069 --> 00:07:58.980 So what I mean by that are our things like mercy, yeah, our 113 00:07:59.060 --> 00:08:03.540 God's love, yeah, versus justice or God's wrath. Yeah, absolutely, 114 00:08:03.699 --> 00:08:11.740 their critical HMM. Both are issues that are a component of approaching an abortion 115 00:08:11.860 --> 00:08:18.250 minded mindset. Yeah, absolutely, and hopefully confronting and altering that to be 116 00:08:18.410 --> 00:08:24.610 more in line with what God would have them do. Another one is faith 117 00:08:26.410 --> 00:08:33.399 versus fear. Yeah, those are conflicting things. That are fear, I 118 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.279 think, as a major driver towards a bullytion. Yeah, you know, 119 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.279 we wrote an article about fear, about the fear, the spirit of fear 120 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.789 that many women come to an abortion clinic, that they're under, and how 121 00:08:43.870 --> 00:08:48.309 we, you know, contradict that with faith, right, bring the truth 122 00:08:48.389 --> 00:08:52.149 of what God's Word says rather than the fear that the flesh, the world 123 00:08:52.190 --> 00:08:54.740 and the enemy bring to bear. Yeah, but but you know, in 124 00:08:56.860 --> 00:09:01.820 to the abortion minded woman, the obstacles that are raising, that fear is 125 00:09:01.940 --> 00:09:07.700 very real to her. Absolutely, and so that's an important thing for us 126 00:09:07.779 --> 00:09:13.009 to recognize as how do we address what is in many cases, realistically causing 127 00:09:13.049 --> 00:09:18.730 fear and help them to refocus on faith, yeah, which is going to 128 00:09:18.809 --> 00:09:22.289 drive a better decision, more godly decision. Right. And then a third 129 00:09:22.610 --> 00:09:31.840 area that I was thinking about was enemies of God becoming enemies of God through 130 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:37.840 our actions, hum and and our beliefs, or becoming friends of God. 131 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.710 Yeah, are we friends of God? And again I think that's very relevant. 132 00:09:39.750 --> 00:09:43.710 Yeah, at the at the abortion center, but in the pro life 133 00:09:43.750 --> 00:09:50.269 movement, just when we're confronting the evil of abortion, both can be true. 134 00:09:50.350 --> 00:09:56.179 Yeah, an unrepentant person and willful disobedience with God has become his enemy 135 00:09:56.220 --> 00:10:00.779 and that probably needs to be expressed. Yeah, and that that would be 136 00:10:00.779 --> 00:10:05.700 similar in the justice wrath versus them. Ye, see. Yeah, and 137 00:10:05.340 --> 00:10:11.490 you know, as believers, just because we have a certain disposition to be 138 00:10:11.850 --> 00:10:15.450 maybe more inclined, you know, be maybe be more of the, for 139 00:10:15.450 --> 00:10:18.690 lack of a better term, the prophetic type that want to just deliver the 140 00:10:18.769 --> 00:10:20.370 mail. You know, it said the prophets. They just deliver the mail. 141 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.120 They don't care how it's open. You know where the open and or 142 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.639 not. You know, on evangelist or or pastoral sort of heart wants to 143 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:30.039 wants to help you open the mail, you know, to help you LNG 144 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.840 through. And so balance in that is important. And again, I think 145 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.830 I've mentioned I'm sort of on the prophetic side. I want to bring the 146 00:10:37.549 --> 00:10:43.870 the judgment of God and understanding really, you know, once we grab the 147 00:10:43.909 --> 00:10:46.350 reality, once it gets in our hearts, the reality of what's going on 148 00:10:46.509 --> 00:10:50.179 inside of that abortion clinic, we can justify a lot of things that we 149 00:10:50.340 --> 00:10:54.179 say. But, you know, on the other end of the spectrum is 150 00:10:54.620 --> 00:11:00.019 again the the the mercy and the position of mercy and kindness. To the 151 00:11:00.179 --> 00:11:01.100 point, you know, I've seen people, and I know you seen it 152 00:11:01.220 --> 00:11:05.210 too, they will call out to a woman going into an abortion clinic, 153 00:11:05.570 --> 00:11:07.490 you know, if you do this, God'll forgive you, and it's like 154 00:11:09.649 --> 00:11:11.690 that's Yo, that's that's not what we should be saying either. You know, 155 00:11:11.730 --> 00:11:13.850 I don't think you should be saying you know, if you do this, 156 00:11:15.009 --> 00:11:18.009 God's going to put you in hell. I don't know that that's what 157 00:11:18.090 --> 00:11:20.639 I want them to hear going into the door. And I don't want them 158 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.360 to hear if you do this, God'll forgive you. Yeah, you know, 159 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:26.879 actually both of those statements are have some truth to them, right. 160 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:28.480 That's right. I mean's that's the apparent country. Yeah, and and, 161 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:33.070 but it's based on on what, what their choices are, exactly? Yeah, 162 00:11:33.110 --> 00:11:37.230 where their faith and supultimately, yeah, ultimately, and does yeah, 163 00:11:37.230 --> 00:11:39.429 I mean if they have an abortion will God forgive them? Well, we 164 00:11:39.590 --> 00:11:45.389 talked about forgiveness in in a previous podcast and certainly we need to be talking 165 00:11:45.429 --> 00:11:48.940 about forgiveness. But God won't forgive them if they don't repent, if they 166 00:11:48.980 --> 00:11:52.460 don't truly turn to Jesus. Yeah, so you know, since that's true 167 00:11:52.500 --> 00:11:54.899 and it's not true. Will God put them in Hell? Well, if 168 00:11:54.940 --> 00:11:58.740 they don't repent, yes, he will, but he will not if they 169 00:11:58.779 --> 00:12:01.179 do repent, but they're trust in him. So it's you know, what 170 00:12:01.379 --> 00:12:05.529 balances these two things? What balances these two things is the word of God. 171 00:12:05.690 --> 00:12:09.929 Yeah, and and US bringing source from our lips to their hearts. 172 00:12:09.970 --> 00:12:15.090 Bringing a message that's balanced requires for us to humble ourselves in some areas. 173 00:12:15.129 --> 00:12:18.279 You know I've had to humble myselves and myself in some areas, especially dealing 174 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.600 with the men. I mean it irks me to no end. Let me 175 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:26.000 let me stay. When I see a young man, MMM walking his girlfriend 176 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:31.070 into an abortion clinic with his Pajama Pants on, his spongebob squarepants but Jama 177 00:12:31.190 --> 00:12:35.950 Pants on, that gets under my skin. I want to go over there 178 00:12:35.029 --> 00:12:39.149 and thump him in the head and say, be a man, you're not 179 00:12:39.429 --> 00:12:41.470 here. You know, I want to call out his manhood, right, 180 00:12:41.549 --> 00:12:45.860 and that's that's man. It just gets me and I want to bring to 181 00:12:45.980 --> 00:12:48.299 bear the wrath of God and tell him he's destined for Hell, you know, 182 00:12:48.419 --> 00:12:52.539 and give him revelation. Twe Eight all cowards were find their part in 183 00:12:52.580 --> 00:12:56.740 the lake of fire, right, and I've done that and I'm not said, 184 00:12:56.779 --> 00:13:00.490 I'm not saying that that's wrong. But if I do it in just 185 00:13:00.610 --> 00:13:03.929 an angry tone, about guaranteed it's going to be received and going to be 186 00:13:05.090 --> 00:13:07.250 reciprocated in an angry tone. You know, we say in our trainings your 187 00:13:07.330 --> 00:13:11.769 tone will set the tone. If you have an angry tone, then you 188 00:13:11.289 --> 00:13:16.519 expect to get angry responses from people. Exactly exactly. She need wisdom. 189 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.440 Yeah, absolutely, how to approach this issue? And and where do we 190 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:22.919 I guess that's a good place to start. Well, where do we get? 191 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.759 Yeah, where do we watch the great that's a great version there is 192 00:13:26.629 --> 00:13:30.350 about here. Well, you know, proverbs is the book of Wisdom, 193 00:13:30.389 --> 00:13:33.429 right, and I had been doing for our sidewalk counselors here locally, which 194 00:13:33.429 --> 00:13:35.350 I kind of dropped off on this and the need to start back what I've 195 00:13:35.389 --> 00:13:41.190 called wisdom for the sidewalk. Just doing a little five minute video for our 196 00:13:41.230 --> 00:13:43.700 sidewalk counselors to encourage them from the book of proverbs, because I've learned a 197 00:13:43.740 --> 00:13:48.059 lot from the book of proverbs. Proverbs has really got in my in my 198 00:13:48.299 --> 00:13:52.019 mess and and help me to sort through some of that stuff. You know 199 00:13:52.179 --> 00:13:56.850 some proverbs. There's a proverb that says it's honorable for a man to stop 200 00:13:56.889 --> 00:14:01.809 striving, to stop trying to start a fight, because any fool can start 201 00:14:01.850 --> 00:14:07.929 a quarrel. Not really got in into my my business some years ago because, 202 00:14:07.129 --> 00:14:09.970 you know, as man we don't want to back down from a fight. 203 00:14:09.970 --> 00:14:11.200 And we're in front of an abortion clinic and we're calling out a man. 204 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:16.039 He's walking his girlfriend in with a spongebob squarepants Pajama Pants on, you 205 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:20.080 know, and it's like Ah, and I want to just hit him hard. 206 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.159 Yeah, and I'm starting, basically going to start a fight with this 207 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.429 guy because I'm to call it his manhood and the Bible says, you know 208 00:14:26.509 --> 00:14:30.269 what, I don't need to be starting fights with people. I need to 209 00:14:30.350 --> 00:14:33.870 be sharing the truth of God's Word and letting the Holy Spirit do his job. 210 00:14:35.110 --> 00:14:37.269 That's just to bring conviction. It's not my job to bring conviction, 211 00:14:37.350 --> 00:14:43.139 to call out their man. Their man could write their manhood and take their 212 00:14:43.179 --> 00:14:46.779 man card from them. It's the holy spirits job to bring conviction. So 213 00:14:46.899 --> 00:14:48.500 one of these things that we need, that we're going to be talking about, 214 00:14:48.539 --> 00:14:52.820 is trust in the Holy Spirit to do his work right, not only 215 00:14:52.889 --> 00:14:56.289 in them but in us. Yeah, absolutely, US, the wisdom and 216 00:14:56.370 --> 00:14:58.769 the guidance and how we deal with each of these issues. So maybe we 217 00:14:58.850 --> 00:15:03.409 could get into some practical yeah versus and in in each of the major I 218 00:15:03.529 --> 00:15:07.879 think we had three major areas that are apparent dichotomies, and I use the 219 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:13.039 word a parent because they never are truly let they're not contradictions rival it's, 220 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:18.039 like you said, there's a and, like ecclesiast he says, they at 221 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.389 assert at the proper time and place. Each of these concepts are appropriated, 222 00:15:22.669 --> 00:15:28.990 absolutely important to be expressed. So the first one is mercy or love. 223 00:15:28.389 --> 00:15:33.509 Yes, love versus justice or the wrath of God. Yeah, those who 224 00:15:33.549 --> 00:15:39.259 are they're murdering their children. Yeah, so how do we know when and 225 00:15:39.460 --> 00:15:45.059 how much love to speak or mercy to speak and how much to express? 226 00:15:45.500 --> 00:15:48.659 Hey, you're in danger of bringing the wrath of God on you and you 227 00:15:48.860 --> 00:15:54.450 really do not want that to happen. Yeah, and again there's those two 228 00:15:54.570 --> 00:16:00.049 truths are biblical realities and both need to be stated right. Yeah, I 229 00:16:00.210 --> 00:16:03.769 believe that they do. You know, there's a there's a scripture, and 230 00:16:03.889 --> 00:16:07.360 this is comes from the book of Isaiah, but it's quoted also in Matthew 231 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:12.799 Chapter Twelve, which I'll read just real quick. It's first twenty. So 232 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:17.879 Matthew Twelve in verse twenty, and it says a bruise read. This is 233 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.909 talking about Jesus, a bruise read. He will not break in a smoking 234 00:16:22.029 --> 00:16:26.590 flax. He will not quench till he sends forth justice to victory, and 235 00:16:26.149 --> 00:16:30.230 in his name gentiles will trust. And I won't break down all of that, 236 00:16:30.309 --> 00:16:33.340 but basically that point with a bruised read, he will not break, 237 00:16:33.379 --> 00:16:37.940 a smoking flax, he will not quench. And that scripture some years ago 238 00:16:37.059 --> 00:16:40.740 struck my heart. Is You know, if people are already broken, if 239 00:16:40.740 --> 00:16:44.620 they're already bruised, if they're already humbled, then you don't need to humble 240 00:16:44.659 --> 00:16:48.929 them further. Yeah, you know, read comfort in his teaching about sharing 241 00:16:48.970 --> 00:16:51.929 the Gospel. He's talking about law to the proud and grace to the humble. 242 00:16:52.090 --> 00:16:55.490 The law humbles people, but if they're already humbled, you know. 243 00:16:55.529 --> 00:16:59.049 So if I see a mom going in and she's got tears in her eyes 244 00:16:59.090 --> 00:17:03.000 and she's obviously overcome with the shame of what she's about to do, the 245 00:17:03.119 --> 00:17:07.480 conviction of what she's about to do, probably not going to yell out to 246 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:10.079 her you're going to hell if you do this. Probably not going to do 247 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.319 that, right. Probably not going to yell out to her abortion is murder. 248 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:15.750 I'm probably going to try to compel her to come over and talk to 249 00:17:15.869 --> 00:17:18.190 one of the ladies on the sidewalk. He will here to offer help. 250 00:17:18.589 --> 00:17:22.309 You don't have to do this. I might speak in in just terms that 251 00:17:22.349 --> 00:17:26.390 are going to impart grace to her. You can be a mother, you 252 00:17:26.509 --> 00:17:29.109 can do the things that it takes to be a mother for this child. 253 00:17:29.390 --> 00:17:30.420 You can do it. You know, I'll speak those, I guess, 254 00:17:30.539 --> 00:17:34.539 you know, positive truths to her. Yeah, because she's already broken. 255 00:17:34.779 --> 00:17:37.619 Right. You know, same way if a woman's coming out after she had 256 00:17:37.700 --> 00:17:41.819 the abortion and our heart is broken and she's got tears in her eyes, 257 00:17:41.859 --> 00:17:45.849 and we see that a lot, where they come out and you know they 258 00:17:45.890 --> 00:17:48.009 go in they're not here. They're not one to talk to us. They're 259 00:17:48.089 --> 00:17:52.609 they're got their middle finger up or whatever, and then they come out in 260 00:17:52.650 --> 00:17:56.890 their hearts are broken. I'M NOT gonna I'm not going to add in soul 261 00:17:56.970 --> 00:17:59.240 to injury, as as they say. I'm not going to kick her while 262 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:02.279 she's down. I want to share with her about the mercy. Now I 263 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.599 will say, Hey, you got to recognize that you've taken the life of 264 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:08.799 your baby, but there's a God in Heaven Who's merciful if you would turn 265 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.680 to him. So I'm going to. I'm going to offer the mercy of 266 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.109 God. That's going to be the most pronounced thing that I'm going to be 267 00:18:15.230 --> 00:18:18.630 talking about in that situation. Yeah, so the Holy Spirit and you're just 268 00:18:18.750 --> 00:18:23.589 common sense as guided you into which approach is most effective for that bruised read. 269 00:18:23.710 --> 00:18:27.099 Yeah. And on the other hand, and we've all seen the moms 270 00:18:27.140 --> 00:18:32.460 that walk in giving us the finger, swearing up a storm, saying they 271 00:18:32.539 --> 00:18:34.500 don't want they they want to go to hell. As long as they won't 272 00:18:34.539 --> 00:18:38.819 be anywhere where we might be, you know that we're going to approach them 273 00:18:38.900 --> 00:18:44.569 differently. I'm afraid that it for them, I would be less likely to 274 00:18:44.890 --> 00:18:48.890 begin with a softer, more positive message, and I might go I often 275 00:18:48.970 --> 00:18:55.720 will say, you don't my God, you're in danger when you're mocking God. 276 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.359 This is not funny, and you know, I'll I'll, I'll be 277 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:06.640 harshare probably yeah it in general, like you said, I would rather begin 278 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:11.710 with a positive message, but there are some people that will just laugh that 279 00:19:11.869 --> 00:19:15.990 off. Their hearts are so hard and the Holy Spirit reveals that to us 280 00:19:15.029 --> 00:19:19.910 and sometimes it's just caps it, it's just it's just so up and you 281 00:19:19.950 --> 00:19:23.859 know, there is this dynamic of that. It's kind of a human mechanism 282 00:19:25.380 --> 00:19:30.180 sometimes for them to use, laughing it off, mocking and that's that sort 283 00:19:30.180 --> 00:19:33.059 of stuff to kind of really cover up the conviction that they're feeling. You 284 00:19:33.099 --> 00:19:34.059 know, most of the time. I think it was John Wesley that said 285 00:19:34.220 --> 00:19:37.859 you know, I'd rather have people, you know, he's preaching in England. 286 00:19:37.900 --> 00:19:40.490 He's having a lot of opposition, of course, a lot of good 287 00:19:40.569 --> 00:19:44.089 fruit to you'd say. I'd rather have people yelling and screaming, spitting at 288 00:19:44.130 --> 00:19:45.690 me than people that are just ignoring me, because at least I know they're 289 00:19:45.690 --> 00:19:49.170 hearing yeah, and and and I know that that yeah, when we see 290 00:19:49.250 --> 00:19:52.440 that we see people going into the abortion centers and some of them are mocking, 291 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.680 some of them want to come out and tell us what for and how. 292 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:00.519 It's kind of a gaze, though, that they're here. And, 293 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.680 as you know, last Saturday, better of fact, friend see one of 294 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:08.150 our volunteers out there and she was using the the megaphone and reaching this one 295 00:20:08.190 --> 00:20:11.910 lady and for a little bit that lady was just sitting there at her car. 296 00:20:11.309 --> 00:20:15.349 Didn't seem like she was hearing, and then she started yelling back at 297 00:20:15.430 --> 00:20:18.390 France, seeing some things and saying some not so nice things and fancying, 298 00:20:18.470 --> 00:20:21.460 hey, that's a good gage. At least I know she can hear me, 299 00:20:21.660 --> 00:20:23.579 because the pro abortion people are blasting music, trying to drown us out, 300 00:20:23.859 --> 00:20:26.539 and she's like that's really encouraging. You could hear me. You know, 301 00:20:26.660 --> 00:20:30.700 yeah, she was hearing, she was responding. She didn't respond positively, 302 00:20:32.779 --> 00:20:34.730 and so you know, this is where, you know, for us 303 00:20:34.970 --> 00:20:40.650 as believers in Jesus will, we really need to be constantly in the word, 304 00:20:40.890 --> 00:20:45.329 constantly in fellowship with God, because sometimes he can help you see through 305 00:20:45.410 --> 00:20:48.970 some of that. Sometimes it's just they're just prideful and they're just angry sometimes 306 00:20:48.009 --> 00:20:52.880 it's just a covering for brokenness that's there, and the Lord can help us 307 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.279 to sort through that. Yeah, that sort of stuff. And this verse 308 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.359 from James Thirteen, I think, guide you when you really are a little 309 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.829 bit unsure. Yeah, which do I show? Yeah, her see, 310 00:21:04.269 --> 00:21:08.069 judge men help me hear the Holy Spirit. He gives us this verse. 311 00:21:08.190 --> 00:21:11.390 That, I think is a great verse. Yeah, and I'll ready. 312 00:21:11.430 --> 00:21:17.750 Here's change to thirteen. Right, for judgment is without mercy to the one 313 00:21:17.789 --> 00:21:22.940 who shows no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment. Mercy triumphs over judgment. 314 00:21:22.980 --> 00:21:26.859 Yeah, and that speaks, of course, to you know, I think 315 00:21:26.940 --> 00:21:32.420 first and foremost, God's disposition toward lost human beings. You know, is 316 00:21:32.740 --> 00:21:37.650 is it true that every human being deserves the judgment and the wrath of God? 317 00:21:37.769 --> 00:21:41.970 Yeah, we all deserve the wrath of God. There is none good. 318 00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:45.210 No, not one. We've all sinned and fallen short of the glory 319 00:21:45.250 --> 00:21:48.319 of God. If God were to take us all out right now and put 320 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:52.039 us all inhale, we'd be he can perfectly justified this, because it's what 321 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:57.240 we deserve. Yeah, but God's disposition toward lost humanity is one of mercy. 322 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:03.549 Mercy triumphs over judgment. The scripture says God is not delight that even 323 00:22:03.589 --> 00:22:07.349 the wicked should perish. Right, and and so God's position, God's disposition 324 00:22:07.630 --> 00:22:12.390 toward humanity, is one of mercy. He desires mercy, but he's also, 325 00:22:12.430 --> 00:22:15.740 of course, a got of justice. Yeah, yes, so, 326 00:22:15.819 --> 00:22:19.339 I can't. I think the the practical takeaway of that one is, if 327 00:22:19.460 --> 00:22:25.259 you're unsure, always mercy. Yeah, it's important, but don't be afraid 328 00:22:25.460 --> 00:22:30.690 to share the truth of God's judgment, because if there is only mercy extended 329 00:22:30.930 --> 00:22:36.210 and people truly don't have a sense of the weight, the waitingness of what 330 00:22:36.289 --> 00:22:41.329 they're doing, the the and how God's judgment will fall upon them, yeah, 331 00:22:41.450 --> 00:22:45.640 then you're not truly showing love to them because, yeah, you may 332 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:48.519 be merciful in them into Hell. Yeah, I mean, I guess the 333 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:52.240 picture an analogy that I've used before. You know, if someone's headed off 334 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:56.799 a cliff and they can't see it, but you're standing from a perspective they're 335 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:00.950 not and you can see the cliff. You know, you could yell out 336 00:23:00.990 --> 00:23:04.109 to him Nice things and you can talk positive things to him. Hey, 337 00:23:04.109 --> 00:23:07.470 you know, you're walking real nice there. You know, I don't want 338 00:23:07.509 --> 00:23:10.670 to. Don't want to trip you up and I don't want to take you 339 00:23:10.789 --> 00:23:14.420 away from what you're from your pleasurable walk. Right, right, yeah, 340 00:23:14.619 --> 00:23:17.900 but you need other direction. There's some beautiful trees. Yeah, trying to 341 00:23:17.940 --> 00:23:19.900 convince them to get in the other direction because there's beautiful trees. I mean 342 00:23:19.940 --> 00:23:22.180 sometimes you need to raise your voice and say, Hey, you're headed toward 343 00:23:22.220 --> 00:23:26.769 a cliff, you're going towards destruction. Yeah, but again, I think 344 00:23:26.970 --> 00:23:32.049 your tone could matter in that, because you certainly don't want to frighten them 345 00:23:32.289 --> 00:23:34.609 so that they speed up all the more. You know exactly want to try 346 00:23:34.650 --> 00:23:38.170 to invite them to hey, yeah, how about not going toward that way? 347 00:23:38.650 --> 00:23:42.279 Is a balance, and I think the Holy Spirit definitely will help us 348 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.559 to strike that balance in a way that honors the Lord. Yeah, the 349 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:52.799 the second area, which is a dichotomy in terms of we one is a 350 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:57.430 negative and one of is a positive, is faith versus fear. Yeah, 351 00:23:57.470 --> 00:24:03.029 in the light of obstacles. So these MOMS have real obstacles. We may 352 00:24:03.069 --> 00:24:06.710 not agree with them right, that they're never a justification. They never in 353 00:24:06.990 --> 00:24:10.619 Chile, right. We never agree that that those should lead to the death 354 00:24:10.660 --> 00:24:12.740 of a child, but the fear is very real, very powerful, and 355 00:24:12.819 --> 00:24:18.700 sometimes there are stories that do seem, from a human standpoint, absolutely unstoppable. 356 00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:22.099 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, listen, I've had stories, I 357 00:24:22.180 --> 00:24:25.049 think you've shared this to you, where you're dealing with a couple or you're 358 00:24:25.089 --> 00:24:27.809 dealing with a mom and she shares her story and you're thinking like okay, 359 00:24:27.930 --> 00:24:33.450 if there ever was a justification for for abortion, yeah, this is it, 360 00:24:33.730 --> 00:24:36.930 right. I mean we never, never justify that, but yeah, 361 00:24:36.930 --> 00:24:38.720 you just think in your mind it's like, okay, they really are facings 362 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:44.000 and tough stuff cool. And so you know, on one hand, some 363 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.359 a pro life counselor who is trying to reach an abortion minded woman cannot just 364 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:56.470 dismiss right ears and made make them feel on heard, invalidated. Those fears 365 00:24:56.509 --> 00:25:02.470 are real to them. Yeah, but on the other hand you don't want 366 00:25:02.470 --> 00:25:07.380 them living in that place of fear. Right. You want to refocus on 367 00:25:07.500 --> 00:25:14.700 the only place where they will find truth and hope and truly a mind change, 368 00:25:14.740 --> 00:25:18.259 yeah, towards life, and that's in the Lord faith, absolutely faith, 369 00:25:18.299 --> 00:25:22.970 yea submitting their life to God. So the balance there is is learning 370 00:25:23.730 --> 00:25:29.130 how to listen and make sure they feel heard, that their fears are recognized, 371 00:25:30.089 --> 00:25:34.210 but they're the fears are not what should drive the decision. Yeah, 372 00:25:34.650 --> 00:25:41.799 and so one of refocusing their attention. I'll give a short story that that 373 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:48.880 happened today and then maybe you could talk about the the verses from Matthew about 374 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:51.910 you. You're walking on the water, which I think really is a great 375 00:25:52.190 --> 00:25:57.630 illustration of what we're talking about. But today there was a couple that stopped 376 00:25:57.950 --> 00:26:02.589 to talk with me and they were very kind and very polite and they had 377 00:26:02.630 --> 00:26:10.259 a beautiful little child in the back seat and they listened to me and said 378 00:26:10.299 --> 00:26:14.660 that they they knew that God would not have them do what they were about. 379 00:26:14.660 --> 00:26:17.420 To talk to them. I remember seeing you have the ready talking to 380 00:26:17.460 --> 00:26:19.289 them car side. Yeah, and you were talking to them at least ten 381 00:26:19.690 --> 00:26:25.170 yeah, I talked with them a long time and and they they said they 382 00:26:25.210 --> 00:26:30.089 believed in God, they knew abortion was wrong, they knew that the child 383 00:26:30.329 --> 00:26:33.480 was a human being in the womb and they knew that they would love that 384 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.160 that child as much as they loved the little baby in the back seat and 385 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.119 they were such good parents to the baby in the back seat. And I 386 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:44.119 said, well, what is driving this? Why do you feel this is 387 00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:47.269 what you need to do, and they said the coronavirus. They both were 388 00:26:47.309 --> 00:26:49.509 laid off from their job. They were already struggling. Yeah, and now 389 00:26:49.549 --> 00:26:55.589 they had zero income and a landlord who is not willing to help, and 390 00:26:56.470 --> 00:27:00.579 so that fear had to be addressed, and that was a legitimate yeah here, 391 00:27:00.859 --> 00:27:03.940 I mean you can just shirk that off. I mean think about how 392 00:27:03.940 --> 00:27:07.500 that conversation would go if you said, let's notice the reason to murder child. 393 00:27:07.539 --> 00:27:10.819 Turn turn your eyes on Jesus. Yeah, exactly go and be well, 394 00:27:11.059 --> 00:27:15.890 yeah, be warring too. Exactly so. And I think that that 395 00:27:17.130 --> 00:27:21.809 situation is not uncommon. Maybe not quite as dire as their's, but it's 396 00:27:21.890 --> 00:27:26.210 not uncommon. In fact, I would say every single time we confront an 397 00:27:26.210 --> 00:27:33.200 abortion minded woman, there is something fueling some fear of some sort fueling her 398 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.480 decision. The fear might be selfishness, it may be the fear and giving 399 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.559 enough person, but but nonetheless that her eyes are on the obstacle, her 400 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.789 fears, rather than on faith. Yea. And so the Peter Passage. 401 00:27:45.990 --> 00:27:49.230 Yeah, so a lot of you guys know this passage where you or the 402 00:27:49.269 --> 00:27:52.069 disciples are in a boat and Jesus tells them to go on the other side 403 00:27:52.069 --> 00:27:55.829 of the Sea of Galilee. They go on the boat. Storm rises up. 404 00:27:56.630 --> 00:28:00.259 Jesus courses on the mountain side praying. When he sends them out, 405 00:28:00.420 --> 00:28:03.299 the storm raises up. They think they're going to die. They see Jesus 406 00:28:03.420 --> 00:28:07.819 walking on the water. Peter says, you know, is afraid first, 407 00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:11.980 and Jesus says was don't be afraid, it's me. Peter says, well, 408 00:28:11.059 --> 00:28:14.849 it's you. Lord. Then didn't commanded me to come out, and 409 00:28:14.930 --> 00:28:17.890 so he commands him, Jesus. Jesus Commands Peter to come out. Peter 410 00:28:18.009 --> 00:28:22.009 Walks out on the water and he's walking on the water, yeah, until 411 00:28:22.009 --> 00:28:25.170 he starts looking at the wind and the waves around him. Then he starts 412 00:28:25.250 --> 00:28:27.000 to sink. The Lord reaches out, grabs him and saves him. But 413 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.799 the point is, you know, once he takes his eyes off of Jesus 414 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.039 faith, yeah, he starts to give, give into the realm of fear. 415 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:37.279 And where does he do? He begins to sink under the water. 416 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:42.150 And that is for for many of us as believers, we can fall into 417 00:28:42.190 --> 00:28:47.029 that. Yeah, but these mothers were they're already sinking a lot of times. 418 00:28:47.069 --> 00:28:48.990 They've already taken their eyes because many of them do say they believe in 419 00:28:49.069 --> 00:28:52.190 the Lord, of course, you know, obviously we would question whether they 420 00:28:52.230 --> 00:28:56.180 have a weird relationship with him if they're coming to an abortion. Well, 421 00:28:56.220 --> 00:29:00.619 I hear them say, yes, I believe in God, but but yeah, 422 00:29:00.619 --> 00:29:03.940 there's the by and something. I say, put your butt in the 423 00:29:03.980 --> 00:29:07.380 way of God. Don't do that. Trust in the Lord. Don't put 424 00:29:07.380 --> 00:29:10.970 your button away, right. But yeah, we get that. And you 425 00:29:11.089 --> 00:29:15.329 know, if we're honest as are as believers who you know? I feel 426 00:29:15.329 --> 00:29:18.569 like I'm pretty serious about God, right, and feel like you are too. 427 00:29:18.650 --> 00:29:21.609 Yeah, sometimes we put our butt in the way. Sometimes we take 428 00:29:21.609 --> 00:29:26.599 our eyes off of the Lord and put our eyes on the circumstances around us. 429 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.160 Look at what we what we're facing here in this nation, with the 430 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.640 coronavirus scare and all of that. People are you know, I trust you, 431 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.480 Lord, but right, so I need to go by, you know, 432 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.630 could jillion rolls a toilet paper or you know, all this stuff. 433 00:29:40.630 --> 00:29:42.789 I mean there's a nice connection there, right, and some of our butts 434 00:29:42.789 --> 00:29:48.549 are bigger. That is that is the case. It seems. It seems 435 00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:52.779 so. Yeah, but you know, it's not that. There are there 436 00:29:52.859 --> 00:29:57.339 isn't practical wisdom and all of that stuff involved in that. But sometimes we 437 00:29:57.420 --> 00:30:00.619 do put our butt in the way of faith. Yeah, yeah, and 438 00:30:00.779 --> 00:30:04.460 we get called in the realmos sink and when we put our and so that 439 00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:11.450 that that ability to again validate the fears that they're real. You understand, 440 00:30:11.809 --> 00:30:17.490 we've heard them, but when you put your eyes on Jesus, that that's 441 00:30:17.529 --> 00:30:19.369 what we're commanded to do. There's so many verses we won't go through them 442 00:30:19.410 --> 00:30:22.680 all, but there's so many verses that tell us keep your eyes on, 443 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.119 yeah, on the Lord. Yeah, the the command I think we mentioned 444 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:32.119 in the coronavirus podcast we did, the command to fear not. Is the 445 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:37.589 most commanded command. Yeah, if you will, in the Bible and God 446 00:30:37.710 --> 00:30:41.710 calls us to fear not. So when we're a side wall counselors, we're 447 00:30:41.710 --> 00:30:45.710 speaking of those situations, we've got to come from a perspective of faith. 448 00:30:45.869 --> 00:30:48.390 Then one of the things that we can do, this is something I encourage 449 00:30:48.390 --> 00:30:51.380 you guys with, whether you're, you know, ministering or pregnancy center with 450 00:30:51.500 --> 00:30:55.180 your ministering on the sidewalk, whether you're just speaking about pro life issues in 451 00:30:55.220 --> 00:31:00.500 general, is sharing stories of God's faithfulness, sharing what you've seen God do 452 00:31:00.700 --> 00:31:03.890 in your life, sharing what you've seen God do and other people's lives. 453 00:31:03.970 --> 00:31:08.049 We can share so many stories in those, you know, are quotes, 454 00:31:08.130 --> 00:31:14.490 impossible situations we've encounter the sidewalk. Yeah, we've seen God do some amazing 455 00:31:14.529 --> 00:31:18.640 things. Yeah. So we have reason to believe that God is faithful. 456 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.920 First and foremost, we have his word that says he is, but also 457 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:27.160 we have these experiences and these stories that we can share where God has come 458 00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.440 through. Yeah. So with that couple, I know you you share and 459 00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.630 you can share all of what God has done and what God you've seen God 460 00:31:34.869 --> 00:31:40.430 do in situations similar to theirs. Yeah, they ultimately it bulls down to 461 00:31:40.549 --> 00:31:44.869 the fact that there's no situation that justifies murdering a child. And we keep 462 00:31:44.950 --> 00:31:47.579 that as a standard, right, because God's Word is the standard. And 463 00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:53.619 in a sense that we said we validate those fears. We do, I 464 00:31:53.700 --> 00:31:57.380 guess we give some legitimacy to those fears to say you actually hold to those 465 00:31:57.380 --> 00:32:00.490 fears. But listen, there's a God that you need to consider in the 466 00:32:00.529 --> 00:32:05.529 midst of those fears, who says fear not bringing that truth to bear and 467 00:32:05.609 --> 00:32:09.690 sharing stories where you seen God's faithfulness is a powerful way to speak faith in 468 00:32:10.170 --> 00:32:15.369 to those fears. Yeah, and ultimately, that is of everything that we 469 00:32:15.490 --> 00:32:17.359 do. That, as I would say, the most important thing that that 470 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:22.240 we do as people who are interceding for the unborn. Yeah, is to 471 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:28.000 remind people that there is a great God who loves the family, who knows 472 00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.789 that baby and has known that baby before he was born. Yeah, and 473 00:32:31.109 --> 00:32:34.630 that's who we need to put our trust in, our faith in. Yeah. 474 00:32:34.670 --> 00:32:37.990 Absolutely. So, you know, basically, what we wanted to bring 475 00:32:38.029 --> 00:32:44.339 to you guys attention just in recording this podcast and encourage you guys with is 476 00:32:44.420 --> 00:32:49.059 that there is a balance of, yes, bringing the truth that God is 477 00:32:49.099 --> 00:32:52.940 a god of justice, but also bringing the truth that God is a god 478 00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:57.099 of mercy, that we are too, as ministers of the Gospel, bring 479 00:32:57.299 --> 00:33:00.289 the truth, to bring the grace, to bring them mercy, to bring 480 00:33:00.450 --> 00:33:06.289 the wrath and these these truths together in a beautiful picture of who our God 481 00:33:06.609 --> 00:33:10.450 is. He is a just God, he is a loving God, he 482 00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:15.839 is a god of Wrath, he is a patient God. and to bring 483 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:20.480 those things, those truths, to bear, to bring a balanced message of 484 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:24.640 this God, of his Gospel and of his view of these MOMS and their 485 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:30.150 babies right and it does take us getting in the word. It does take 486 00:33:30.190 --> 00:33:36.309 us being in prayer and seeking God for his heart for these these babies and 487 00:33:36.470 --> 00:33:38.750 for these these women. We minister out of the heart of God. Will 488 00:33:38.829 --> 00:33:42.539 never going to miss it. We're going to get it right. It's just 489 00:33:42.660 --> 00:33:44.980 hard to minister out of the heart of God and not to get at her 490 00:33:45.019 --> 00:33:47.500 own flesh. Yeah, so I hope you guys were encouraged by this podcast. 491 00:33:49.380 --> 00:33:52.819 Hope that you're blessed as yeah, as you've listened through and you know, 492 00:33:52.859 --> 00:33:54.500 if you have some questions for us, you can certainly reach out to 493 00:33:54.579 --> 00:33:58.529 me deep parks at cities for lifecom. You can reach out to Vicki v 494 00:33:58.650 --> 00:34:01.250 COSSI, Oregan cities for lifecom. And we asked you know, you guys 495 00:34:01.289 --> 00:34:06.250 that listen to this or blessed by share this podcast with other people, shared 496 00:34:06.329 --> 00:34:08.570 on social media, give us some feedback, you know, let us know 497 00:34:08.690 --> 00:34:13.360 that you're listening, let us know that you know there are subjects that we've 498 00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.800 covered that you're blessed by, our subjects that we haven't yet covered. Let 499 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.079 us know if there's some things that we can do better. We'd certainly like 500 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.800 to hear your feedback on that. We appreciate you listening. Until next time, 501 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:36.710 God bless o love for love. Give me our love for gratitude. 502 00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:47.579 I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious, and some 503 00:34:49.099 --> 00:34:49.539 met you