March 26, 2020

SpongeBob SquarePants Pajamas and Balancing Truth and Grace

SpongeBob SquarePants Pajamas and Balancing Truth and Grace
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SpongeBob SquarePants Pajamas and Balancing Truth and Grace

The balance between truth and grace while confronting an evil like abortion isn't easy but with God's help, it is possible. Join us as we talk through how to truthfully and graciously bring God's truth into the abortion conversation. Wondering about...

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The balance between truth and grace while confronting an evil like abortion isn't easy but with God's help, it is possible. Join us as we talk through how to truthfully and graciously bring God's truth into the abortion conversation. Wondering about the title? You'll just have to listen to see what that's about.

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WEBVTT100:00:00.040 --> 00:00:05.000When I see a young man walkinghis girlfriend into an abortion clinic with his200:00:05.120 --> 00:00:10.470Pajama Pants on, his spongebob squarepantsPajama Pants on, that gets under my300:00:10.669 --> 00:00:17.269skin. I Am Yours, Iam yours, I am yours and welcome400:00:17.309 --> 00:00:20.510to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. In this episode we're going to talk500:00:20.550 --> 00:00:25.579about Balancing Truth and grace in prolife ministry. It's not an easy balance,600:00:25.739 --> 00:00:28.940but we believe the Bible gives ussome good principles, so stick with700:00:29.019 --> 00:00:31.940us as we talk through this.Prince Bis, Send Me, Lord,800:00:34.820 --> 00:00:47.049I felt show Passish, touch yourheart. Use Me. Welcome to the900:00:47.090 --> 00:00:53.280Gospel Center pro life podcast. Wewanted to do an episode about Balancing Truth1000:00:53.399 --> 00:00:57.920and Grace when we're confronting evil,and you know, of course we're confronting1100:00:57.960 --> 00:01:02.119the evil of abortion. I believeit's the biggest evil in our day and1200:01:02.159 --> 00:01:04.829age that all Christians are called toconfront, and some way, shape or1300:01:04.829 --> 00:01:08.349form we're confront that on a regularbasis on the sidewalks in front of the1400:01:08.349 --> 00:01:11.549abortion clinic. Some of you guysare confront that evil and other context and1500:01:11.629 --> 00:01:15.510we appreciate that. But we wantedto talk about the balance of truth and1600:01:17.030 --> 00:01:21.219grace. We're called to speak thetruth of God's Word and we're called to1700:01:21.260 --> 00:01:25.780do it in grace. Paul saysthat we should speak the truth seasoned with1800:01:26.019 --> 00:01:29.780grace. We should speak the truthin such a way that imparts grace to1900:01:29.819 --> 00:01:32.780the here in one part. Yeah, at one point Paul says that,2000:01:33.569 --> 00:01:38.290and I believe, by God's grace, that over the years I've certainly learned2100:01:38.489 --> 00:01:42.730how to balance that. You know, it's one man said, if it's2200:01:42.769 --> 00:01:46.450all truth and no grace, youbecome a bully, if it's all grace2300:01:46.569 --> 00:01:52.000and no truth, you become acompromiser, something like that. I'm paraphrasing2400:01:52.079 --> 00:01:55.319exactly. She gets some point.PITHY, catchy way to say it's good,2500:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.599but you get the point. Yeah, so we're called us to do2600:01:59.760 --> 00:02:04.989both. We're called extend grace.Were called to speak truth. And again,2700:02:05.150 --> 00:02:07.870I think we've learned that. We'velearned that dynamic by, you know,2800:02:08.030 --> 00:02:14.030making the mistake of being maybe tooone way or another or hearing others.2900:02:14.189 --> 00:02:17.740Yeah, exactly. Yeah, youknow, I mentioned to you about3000:02:17.780 --> 00:02:21.419how, you know, out inthe the social media sphere and just some3100:02:21.539 --> 00:02:25.180of the circles that we run inand that we are connected to. We3200:02:25.259 --> 00:02:30.449see folks who maybe are in frontof an abortion clinic or whatever context,3300:02:30.569 --> 00:02:32.849and they're, you know, alltruth and just stand out in front and3400:02:32.889 --> 00:02:36.930just preach and doesn't matter how it'sreceived. I'm just going to come there3500:02:36.969 --> 00:02:39.370and I'm going to say abortions murder, it's wrong, it's in and you3600:02:39.409 --> 00:02:43.210know I'm not, I'm not theaccuser against that person. They're preaching the3700:02:43.289 --> 00:02:45.759truth. Okay, I get that. And then, you know, also3800:02:45.960 --> 00:02:49.439see folks who, you know,it's the focus is on the women and3900:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.439the focus is on hey, youknow, I know you're a victim of4000:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.360your circumstances, almost like the womenare victims. And we've dealt with that4100:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.909subject before. Yeah, and itseems like there's somewhere in the middle,4200:03:00.990 --> 00:03:05.430like with a lot of the thingsthat we deal with, that the Lord4300:03:05.509 --> 00:03:09.030wants us to be somewhere in themiddle on that balancing right and it's it4400:03:09.189 --> 00:03:13.259is a balancing act, because Icontend to be more on the hard side4500:03:13.699 --> 00:03:15.939and more on the you know,the wrath of God, the judgment of4600:03:16.020 --> 00:03:19.180God. And again, I'm notsaying that it's wrong. We need to4700:03:19.219 --> 00:03:21.500talk about the wrath of God.We need to talk about the judgment of4800:03:21.539 --> 00:03:23.259God. We need to talk aboutHell. There are times where we need4900:03:23.340 --> 00:03:30.250to mention the impending judgment that comeson those who resist God's truth. Yeah,5000:03:30.530 --> 00:03:31.969right. So I'm certainly not againstthat and not speaking against that,5100:03:32.009 --> 00:03:37.969but the Lord has helped me tobalance out well the message and to bring5200:03:38.210 --> 00:03:43.360kind of both angles to bear tothose they're going into abortion clinics. Right5300:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.439as we were thinking about this,I was looking up some passages and just5400:03:46.599 --> 00:03:51.520thinking about well, what does theBible have to say in regards to that5500:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.150balance? Yeah, and and forme it's it's not only the balance of5600:03:57.389 --> 00:04:01.469positive and negative in a sense,because there might be truths that are positive5700:04:01.509 --> 00:04:05.229truths. Yeah, but there arenegative truths. There are, you know,5800:04:05.430 --> 00:04:09.909going to hell is one of thosekind of negative truth yes, that5900:04:10.300 --> 00:04:15.139if you continue and willful disobedience,but but also the timing of when those6000:04:15.339 --> 00:04:20.019truths should be spoken. Yeah,and I think one of the greatest verses6100:04:20.139 --> 00:04:24.410in the Bible about timing is init. CLEA, she asked, he's6200:04:24.810 --> 00:04:30.329okay. That that ecclesiast these three, just the first verse is probably enough.6300:04:30.370 --> 00:04:34.089Yeah, Clesias, these three onedid you for everything there is a6400:04:34.129 --> 00:04:39.399season. Yeah, time for everymatter under heaven. Of course we know6500:04:39.519 --> 00:04:44.199that. There's been songs written aboutthat signes secular song. Another passage that6600:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.000comes to mind for me, whichI find myself quoting this a lot.6700:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.399As a matter of fact, recentlyI have quoting it to myself and to6800:04:49.519 --> 00:04:54.629others, is a proverbs you proverbsbook a wisdom gives us some just real6900:04:54.709 --> 00:04:57.790practical wisdom. Here it says inproverbs twenty seven, verse fourteen. He7000:04:58.509 --> 00:05:00.829who blesses his friend with a loudvoice, rising early in the morning,7100:05:01.310 --> 00:05:04.910it will be counted as a curseto him. And so what's that telling7200:05:04.949 --> 00:05:10.379us? Wrong time, wrong place? Listen, there can be your and7300:05:10.779 --> 00:05:15.019tone to you know, loudly right. So there might be folks that imagine7400:05:15.259 --> 00:05:19.139that. You know, I guessnot too long ago I was like this,7500:05:19.300 --> 00:05:23.410our tone doesn't matter. You know, Jesus got angry sometimes. He7600:05:23.490 --> 00:05:27.209had an angry tone sometimes, andI would justify an angry tone and angry7700:05:28.089 --> 00:05:31.930demeanor. And you scripture, butI think this scripture really confronted me in7800:05:32.050 --> 00:05:35.800this he who blesses his friend,this is a blessing. So this is7900:05:36.319 --> 00:05:39.399little different. A good thing that? Yeah, it's a good thing.8000:05:39.519 --> 00:05:43.120You. So you can say agood thing right, too loud, yeah,8100:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.040and at the wrong time, andit's not resist and it's not received8200:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.790very well. Imagine a bad thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and8300:05:49.910 --> 00:05:53.550so imagine, you know, andlisten, we go out to abortion clinics,8400:05:53.589 --> 00:05:57.389we do ministry with good intentions.We want to see God, you,8500:05:57.430 --> 00:06:00.069glorified, we want to see peoplesave their babies, we want to8600:06:00.069 --> 00:06:02.029see people turn to the Lord.Right. So we have good intentions and8700:06:02.189 --> 00:06:06.860it's a good message. We're bringingthis blessing of God's truth. But if8800:06:06.899 --> 00:06:11.420you do it in an obnoxious tonewhere you're just loud, you're just out8900:06:11.459 --> 00:06:15.459there to make noise, and youdo it at the wrong time, you9000:06:15.540 --> 00:06:17.379know, you could get yourself punchin the face. Yeah, yeah,9100:06:17.420 --> 00:06:23.649but you can also just be completelyrejected. Now balancing again. I think9200:06:23.689 --> 00:06:28.569we do have to balance, becausethere is a pragmatism that the modern church9300:06:28.689 --> 00:06:31.290is embraced where, you know,it's almost like we're willing to compromise the9400:06:31.329 --> 00:06:33.920truth of God's Word just to getpeople to hear what we have to say.9500:06:33.959 --> 00:06:39.279And I'm not talking about that.But there are some practical, practically9600:06:39.399 --> 00:06:44.600wise things that we can do thatwill help us get the message across in9700:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.509a more effective way. Sure,so you know, not being obnoxious and9800:06:48.709 --> 00:06:53.870loud. Yeah, now you knowwe get loud, right, we have9900:06:53.990 --> 00:06:57.310to raise our voice across the parkinglot at the abortion clinic. We use10000:06:57.350 --> 00:07:01.819amplified sound, but we do wantto make sure our tone is inviting,10100:07:01.860 --> 00:07:05.579right. So how do you howdo you balance that? You know you10200:07:06.019 --> 00:07:10.019want to invite them to come overand talk to you, but also you're10300:07:10.100 --> 00:07:15.339not just like it's not just somethingyou might want to consider, your commanded10400:07:15.810 --> 00:07:18.170to tell people the truth. OrHow do you balance inviting them, but10500:07:18.209 --> 00:07:23.449all who telling them abortion is murdered? And that's really, at least from10600:07:23.490 --> 00:07:27.569my heart, my goal with thispodcast how to balance those two things.10700:07:27.610 --> 00:07:32.439Yeah, and of course the HolySpirit is is going to hopefully guide us10800:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.519in that. But another, anotherthing I was thinking in terms of balance10900:07:35.720 --> 00:07:43.000is exactly what what you've talked about, but also the the balance of what11000:07:43.160 --> 00:07:49.470appeared to be almost conflicting concepts thatwe're introducing out there in in on the11100:07:49.509 --> 00:07:53.589sidebox specifically, but all of usin the in the pro life movement.11200:07:54.069 --> 00:07:58.980So what I mean by that areour things like mercy, yeah, our11300:07:59.060 --> 00:08:03.540God's love, yeah, versus justiceor God's wrath. Yeah, absolutely,11400:08:03.699 --> 00:08:11.740their critical HMM. Both are issuesthat are a component of approaching an abortion11500:08:11.860 --> 00:08:18.250minded mindset. Yeah, absolutely,and hopefully confronting and altering that to be11600:08:18.410 --> 00:08:24.610more in line with what God wouldhave them do. Another one is faith11700:08:26.410 --> 00:08:33.399versus fear. Yeah, those areconflicting things. That are fear, I11800:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.279think, as a major driver towardsa bullytion. Yeah, you know,11900:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.279we wrote an article about fear,about the fear, the spirit of fear12000:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.789that many women come to an abortionclinic, that they're under, and how12100:08:43.870 --> 00:08:48.309we, you know, contradict thatwith faith, right, bring the truth12200:08:48.389 --> 00:08:52.149of what God's Word says rather thanthe fear that the flesh, the world12300:08:52.190 --> 00:08:54.740and the enemy bring to bear.Yeah, but but you know, in12400:08:56.860 --> 00:09:01.820to the abortion minded woman, theobstacles that are raising, that fear is12500:09:01.940 --> 00:09:07.700very real to her. Absolutely,and so that's an important thing for us12600:09:07.779 --> 00:09:13.009to recognize as how do we addresswhat is in many cases, realistically causing12700:09:13.049 --> 00:09:18.730fear and help them to refocus onfaith, yeah, which is going to12800:09:18.809 --> 00:09:22.289drive a better decision, more godlydecision. Right. And then a third12900:09:22.610 --> 00:09:31.840area that I was thinking about wasenemies of God becoming enemies of God through13000:09:31.919 --> 00:09:37.840our actions, hum and and ourbeliefs, or becoming friends of God.13100:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.710Yeah, are we friends of God? And again I think that's very relevant.13200:09:39.750 --> 00:09:43.710Yeah, at the at the abortioncenter, but in the pro life13300:09:43.750 --> 00:09:50.269movement, just when we're confronting theevil of abortion, both can be true.13400:09:50.350 --> 00:09:56.179Yeah, an unrepentant person and willfuldisobedience with God has become his enemy13500:09:56.220 --> 00:10:00.779and that probably needs to be expressed. Yeah, and that that would be13600:10:00.779 --> 00:10:05.700similar in the justice wrath versus them. Ye, see. Yeah, and13700:10:05.340 --> 00:10:11.490you know, as believers, justbecause we have a certain disposition to be13800:10:11.850 --> 00:10:15.450maybe more inclined, you know,be maybe be more of the, for13900:10:15.450 --> 00:10:18.690lack of a better term, theprophetic type that want to just deliver the14000:10:18.769 --> 00:10:20.370mail. You know, it saidthe prophets. They just deliver the mail.14100:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.120They don't care how it's open.You know where the open and or14200:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.639not. You know, on evangelistor or pastoral sort of heart wants to14300:10:26.799 --> 00:10:30.039wants to help you open the mail, you know, to help you LNG14400:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.840through. And so balance in thatis important. And again, I think14500:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.830I've mentioned I'm sort of on theprophetic side. I want to bring the14600:10:37.549 --> 00:10:43.870the judgment of God and understanding really, you know, once we grab the14700:10:43.909 --> 00:10:46.350reality, once it gets in ourhearts, the reality of what's going on14800:10:46.509 --> 00:10:50.179inside of that abortion clinic, wecan justify a lot of things that we14900:10:50.340 --> 00:10:54.179say. But, you know,on the other end of the spectrum is15000:10:54.620 --> 00:11:00.019again the the the mercy and theposition of mercy and kindness. To the15100:11:00.179 --> 00:11:01.100point, you know, I've seenpeople, and I know you seen it15200:11:01.220 --> 00:11:05.210too, they will call out toa woman going into an abortion clinic,15300:11:05.570 --> 00:11:07.490you know, if you do this, God'll forgive you, and it's like15400:11:09.649 --> 00:11:11.690that's Yo, that's that's not whatwe should be saying either. You know,15500:11:11.730 --> 00:11:13.850I don't think you should be sayingyou know, if you do this,15600:11:15.009 --> 00:11:18.009God's going to put you in hell. I don't know that that's what15700:11:18.090 --> 00:11:20.639I want them to hear going intothe door. And I don't want them15800:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.360to hear if you do this,God'll forgive you. Yeah, you know,15900:11:22.759 --> 00:11:26.879actually both of those statements are havesome truth to them, right.16000:11:26.919 --> 00:11:28.480That's right. I mean's that's theapparent country. Yeah, and and,16100:11:28.840 --> 00:11:33.070but it's based on on what,what their choices are, exactly? Yeah,16200:11:33.110 --> 00:11:37.230where their faith and supultimately, yeah, ultimately, and does yeah,16300:11:37.230 --> 00:11:39.429I mean if they have an abortionwill God forgive them? Well, we16400:11:39.590 --> 00:11:45.389talked about forgiveness in in a previouspodcast and certainly we need to be talking16500:11:45.429 --> 00:11:48.940about forgiveness. But God won't forgivethem if they don't repent, if they16600:11:48.980 --> 00:11:52.460don't truly turn to Jesus. Yeah, so you know, since that's true16700:11:52.500 --> 00:11:54.899and it's not true. Will Godput them in Hell? Well, if16800:11:54.940 --> 00:11:58.740they don't repent, yes, hewill, but he will not if they16900:11:58.779 --> 00:12:01.179do repent, but they're trust inhim. So it's you know, what17000:12:01.379 --> 00:12:05.529balances these two things? What balancesthese two things is the word of God.17100:12:05.690 --> 00:12:09.929Yeah, and and US bringing sourcefrom our lips to their hearts.17200:12:09.970 --> 00:12:15.090Bringing a message that's balanced requires forus to humble ourselves in some areas.17300:12:15.129 --> 00:12:18.279You know I've had to humble myselvesand myself in some areas, especially dealing17400:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.600with the men. I mean itirks me to no end. Let me17500:12:22.679 --> 00:12:26.000let me stay. When I seea young man, MMM walking his girlfriend17600:12:26.039 --> 00:12:31.070into an abortion clinic with his PajamaPants on, his spongebob squarepants but Jama17700:12:31.190 --> 00:12:35.950Pants on, that gets under myskin. I want to go over there17800:12:35.029 --> 00:12:39.149and thump him in the head andsay, be a man, you're not17900:12:39.429 --> 00:12:41.470here. You know, I wantto call out his manhood, right,18000:12:41.549 --> 00:12:45.860and that's that's man. It justgets me and I want to bring to18100:12:45.980 --> 00:12:48.299bear the wrath of God and tellhim he's destined for Hell, you know,18200:12:48.419 --> 00:12:52.539and give him revelation. Twe Eightall cowards were find their part in18300:12:52.580 --> 00:12:56.740the lake of fire, right,and I've done that and I'm not said,18400:12:56.779 --> 00:13:00.490I'm not saying that that's wrong.But if I do it in just18500:13:00.610 --> 00:13:03.929an angry tone, about guaranteed it'sgoing to be received and going to be18600:13:05.090 --> 00:13:07.250reciprocated in an angry tone. Youknow, we say in our trainings your18700:13:07.330 --> 00:13:11.769tone will set the tone. Ifyou have an angry tone, then you18800:13:11.289 --> 00:13:16.519expect to get angry responses from people. Exactly exactly. She need wisdom.18900:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.440Yeah, absolutely, how to approachthis issue? And and where do we19000:13:20.639 --> 00:13:22.919I guess that's a good place tostart. Well, where do we get?19100:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.759Yeah, where do we watch thegreat that's a great version there is19200:13:26.629 --> 00:13:30.350about here. Well, you know, proverbs is the book of Wisdom,19300:13:30.389 --> 00:13:33.429right, and I had been doingfor our sidewalk counselors here locally, which19400:13:33.429 --> 00:13:35.350I kind of dropped off on thisand the need to start back what I've19500:13:35.389 --> 00:13:41.190called wisdom for the sidewalk. Justdoing a little five minute video for our19600:13:41.230 --> 00:13:43.700sidewalk counselors to encourage them from thebook of proverbs, because I've learned a19700:13:43.740 --> 00:13:48.059lot from the book of proverbs.Proverbs has really got in my in my19800:13:48.299 --> 00:13:52.019mess and and help me to sortthrough some of that stuff. You know19900:13:52.179 --> 00:13:56.850some proverbs. There's a proverb thatsays it's honorable for a man to stop20000:13:56.889 --> 00:14:01.809striving, to stop trying to starta fight, because any fool can start20100:14:01.850 --> 00:14:07.929a quarrel. Not really got ininto my my business some years ago because,20200:14:07.129 --> 00:14:09.970you know, as man we don'twant to back down from a fight.20300:14:09.970 --> 00:14:11.200And we're in front of an abortionclinic and we're calling out a man.20400:14:11.320 --> 00:14:16.039He's walking his girlfriend in with aspongebob squarepants Pajama Pants on, you20500:14:16.159 --> 00:14:20.080know, and it's like Ah,and I want to just hit him hard.20600:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.159Yeah, and I'm starting, basicallygoing to start a fight with this20700:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.429guy because I'm to call it hismanhood and the Bible says, you know20800:14:26.509 --> 00:14:30.269what, I don't need to bestarting fights with people. I need to20900:14:30.350 --> 00:14:33.870be sharing the truth of God's Wordand letting the Holy Spirit do his job.21000:14:35.110 --> 00:14:37.269That's just to bring conviction. It'snot my job to bring conviction,21100:14:37.350 --> 00:14:43.139to call out their man. Theirman could write their manhood and take their21200:14:43.179 --> 00:14:46.779man card from them. It's theholy spirits job to bring conviction. So21300:14:46.899 --> 00:14:48.500one of these things that we need, that we're going to be talking about,21400:14:48.539 --> 00:14:52.820is trust in the Holy Spirit todo his work right, not only21500:14:52.889 --> 00:14:56.289in them but in us. Yeah, absolutely, US, the wisdom and21600:14:56.370 --> 00:14:58.769the guidance and how we deal witheach of these issues. So maybe we21700:14:58.850 --> 00:15:03.409could get into some practical yeah versusand in in each of the major I21800:15:03.529 --> 00:15:07.879think we had three major areas thatare apparent dichotomies, and I use the21900:15:07.919 --> 00:15:13.039word a parent because they never aretruly let they're not contradictions rival it's,22000:15:13.120 --> 00:15:18.039like you said, there's a and, like ecclesiast he says, they at22100:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.389assert at the proper time and place. Each of these concepts are appropriated,22200:15:22.669 --> 00:15:28.990absolutely important to be expressed. Sothe first one is mercy or love.22300:15:28.389 --> 00:15:33.509Yes, love versus justice or thewrath of God. Yeah, those who22400:15:33.549 --> 00:15:39.259are they're murdering their children. Yeah, so how do we know when and22500:15:39.460 --> 00:15:45.059how much love to speak or mercyto speak and how much to express?22600:15:45.500 --> 00:15:48.659Hey, you're in danger of bringingthe wrath of God on you and you22700:15:48.860 --> 00:15:54.450really do not want that to happen. Yeah, and again there's those two22800:15:54.570 --> 00:16:00.049truths are biblical realities and both needto be stated right. Yeah, I22900:16:00.210 --> 00:16:03.769believe that they do. You know, there's a there's a scripture, and23000:16:03.889 --> 00:16:07.360this is comes from the book ofIsaiah, but it's quoted also in Matthew23100:16:07.440 --> 00:16:12.799Chapter Twelve, which I'll read justreal quick. It's first twenty. So23200:16:12.919 --> 00:16:17.879Matthew Twelve in verse twenty, andit says a bruise read. This is23300:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.909talking about Jesus, a bruise read. He will not break in a smoking23400:16:22.029 --> 00:16:26.590flax. He will not quench tillhe sends forth justice to victory, and23500:16:26.149 --> 00:16:30.230in his name gentiles will trust.And I won't break down all of that,23600:16:30.309 --> 00:16:33.340but basically that point with a bruisedread, he will not break,23700:16:33.379 --> 00:16:37.940a smoking flax, he will notquench. And that scripture some years ago23800:16:37.059 --> 00:16:40.740struck my heart. Is You know, if people are already broken, if23900:16:40.740 --> 00:16:44.620they're already bruised, if they're alreadyhumbled, then you don't need to humble24000:16:44.659 --> 00:16:48.929them further. Yeah, you know, read comfort in his teaching about sharing24100:16:48.970 --> 00:16:51.929the Gospel. He's talking about lawto the proud and grace to the humble.24200:16:52.090 --> 00:16:55.490The law humbles people, but ifthey're already humbled, you know.24300:16:55.529 --> 00:16:59.049So if I see a mom goingin and she's got tears in her eyes24400:16:59.090 --> 00:17:03.000and she's obviously overcome with the shameof what she's about to do, the24500:17:03.119 --> 00:17:07.480conviction of what she's about to do, probably not going to yell out to24600:17:07.559 --> 00:17:10.079her you're going to hell if youdo this. Probably not going to do24700:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.319that, right. Probably not goingto yell out to her abortion is murder.24800:17:12.319 --> 00:17:15.750I'm probably going to try to compelher to come over and talk to24900:17:15.869 --> 00:17:18.190one of the ladies on the sidewalk. He will here to offer help.25000:17:18.589 --> 00:17:22.309You don't have to do this.I might speak in in just terms that25100:17:22.349 --> 00:17:26.390are going to impart grace to her. You can be a mother, you25200:17:26.509 --> 00:17:29.109can do the things that it takesto be a mother for this child.25300:17:29.390 --> 00:17:30.420You can do it. You know, I'll speak those, I guess,25400:17:30.539 --> 00:17:34.539you know, positive truths to her. Yeah, because she's already broken.25500:17:34.779 --> 00:17:37.619Right. You know, same wayif a woman's coming out after she had25600:17:37.700 --> 00:17:41.819the abortion and our heart is brokenand she's got tears in her eyes,25700:17:41.859 --> 00:17:45.849and we see that a lot,where they come out and you know they25800:17:45.890 --> 00:17:48.009go in they're not here. They'renot one to talk to us. They're25900:17:48.089 --> 00:17:52.609they're got their middle finger up orwhatever, and then they come out in26000:17:52.650 --> 00:17:56.890their hearts are broken. I'M NOTgonna I'm not going to add in soul26100:17:56.970 --> 00:17:59.240to injury, as as they say. I'm not going to kick her while26200:17:59.279 --> 00:18:02.279she's down. I want to sharewith her about the mercy. Now I26300:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.599will say, Hey, you gotto recognize that you've taken the life of26400:18:04.680 --> 00:18:08.799your baby, but there's a Godin Heaven Who's merciful if you would turn26500:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.680to him. So I'm going to. I'm going to offer the mercy of26600:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.109God. That's going to be themost pronounced thing that I'm going to be26700:18:15.230 --> 00:18:18.630talking about in that situation. Yeah, so the Holy Spirit and you're just26800:18:18.750 --> 00:18:23.589common sense as guided you into whichapproach is most effective for that bruised read.26900:18:23.710 --> 00:18:27.099Yeah. And on the other hand, and we've all seen the moms27000:18:27.140 --> 00:18:32.460that walk in giving us the finger, swearing up a storm, saying they27100:18:32.539 --> 00:18:34.500don't want they they want to goto hell. As long as they won't27200:18:34.539 --> 00:18:38.819be anywhere where we might be,you know that we're going to approach them27300:18:38.900 --> 00:18:44.569differently. I'm afraid that it forthem, I would be less likely to27400:18:44.890 --> 00:18:48.890begin with a softer, more positivemessage, and I might go I often27500:18:48.970 --> 00:18:55.720will say, you don't my God, you're in danger when you're mocking God.27600:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.359This is not funny, and youknow, I'll I'll, I'll be27700:18:59.680 --> 00:19:06.640harshare probably yeah it in general,like you said, I would rather begin27800:19:07.039 --> 00:19:11.710with a positive message, but thereare some people that will just laugh that27900:19:11.869 --> 00:19:15.990off. Their hearts are so hardand the Holy Spirit reveals that to us28000:19:15.029 --> 00:19:19.910and sometimes it's just caps it,it's just it's just so up and you28100:19:19.950 --> 00:19:23.859know, there is this dynamic ofthat. It's kind of a human mechanism28200:19:25.380 --> 00:19:30.180sometimes for them to use, laughingit off, mocking and that's that sort28300:19:30.180 --> 00:19:33.059of stuff to kind of really coverup the conviction that they're feeling. You28400:19:33.099 --> 00:19:34.059know, most of the time.I think it was John Wesley that said28500:19:34.220 --> 00:19:37.859you know, I'd rather have people, you know, he's preaching in England.28600:19:37.900 --> 00:19:40.490He's having a lot of opposition,of course, a lot of good28700:19:40.569 --> 00:19:44.089fruit to you'd say. I'd ratherhave people yelling and screaming, spitting at28800:19:44.130 --> 00:19:45.690me than people that are just ignoringme, because at least I know they're28900:19:45.690 --> 00:19:49.170hearing yeah, and and and Iknow that that yeah, when we see29000:19:49.250 --> 00:19:52.440that we see people going into theabortion centers and some of them are mocking,29100:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.680some of them want to come outand tell us what for and how.29200:19:57.079 --> 00:20:00.519It's kind of a gaze, though, that they're here. And,29300:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.680as you know, last Saturday,better of fact, friend see one of29400:20:03.720 --> 00:20:08.150our volunteers out there and she wasusing the the megaphone and reaching this one29500:20:08.190 --> 00:20:11.910lady and for a little bit thatlady was just sitting there at her car.29600:20:11.309 --> 00:20:15.349Didn't seem like she was hearing,and then she started yelling back at29700:20:15.430 --> 00:20:18.390France, seeing some things and sayingsome not so nice things and fancying,29800:20:18.470 --> 00:20:21.460hey, that's a good gage.At least I know she can hear me,29900:20:21.660 --> 00:20:23.579because the pro abortion people are blastingmusic, trying to drown us out,30000:20:23.859 --> 00:20:26.539and she's like that's really encouraging.You could hear me. You know,30100:20:26.660 --> 00:20:30.700yeah, she was hearing, shewas responding. She didn't respond positively,30200:20:32.779 --> 00:20:34.730and so you know, this iswhere, you know, for us30300:20:34.970 --> 00:20:40.650as believers in Jesus will, wereally need to be constantly in the word,30400:20:40.890 --> 00:20:45.329constantly in fellowship with God, becausesometimes he can help you see through30500:20:45.410 --> 00:20:48.970some of that. Sometimes it's justthey're just prideful and they're just angry sometimes30600:20:48.009 --> 00:20:52.880it's just a covering for brokenness that'sthere, and the Lord can help us30700:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.279to sort through that. Yeah,that sort of stuff. And this verse30800:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.359from James Thirteen, I think,guide you when you really are a little30900:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.829bit unsure. Yeah, which doI show? Yeah, her see,31000:21:04.269 --> 00:21:08.069judge men help me hear the HolySpirit. He gives us this verse.31100:21:08.190 --> 00:21:11.390That, I think is a greatverse. Yeah, and I'll ready.31200:21:11.430 --> 00:21:17.750Here's change to thirteen. Right,for judgment is without mercy to the one31300:21:17.789 --> 00:21:22.940who shows no mercy. Mercy triumphsover judgment. Mercy triumphs over judgment.31400:21:22.980 --> 00:21:26.859Yeah, and that speaks, ofcourse, to you know, I think31500:21:26.940 --> 00:21:32.420first and foremost, God's disposition towardlost human beings. You know, is31600:21:32.740 --> 00:21:37.650is it true that every human beingdeserves the judgment and the wrath of God?31700:21:37.769 --> 00:21:41.970Yeah, we all deserve the wrathof God. There is none good.31800:21:42.210 --> 00:21:45.210No, not one. We've allsinned and fallen short of the glory31900:21:45.250 --> 00:21:48.319of God. If God were totake us all out right now and put32000:21:48.359 --> 00:21:52.039us all inhale, we'd be hecan perfectly justified this, because it's what32100:21:52.119 --> 00:21:57.240we deserve. Yeah, but God'sdisposition toward lost humanity is one of mercy.32200:21:57.839 --> 00:22:03.549Mercy triumphs over judgment. The scripturesays God is not delight that even32300:22:03.589 --> 00:22:07.349the wicked should perish. Right,and and so God's position, God's disposition32400:22:07.630 --> 00:22:12.390toward humanity, is one of mercy. He desires mercy, but he's also,32500:22:12.430 --> 00:22:15.740of course, a got of justice. Yeah, yes, so,32600:22:15.819 --> 00:22:19.339I can't. I think the thepractical takeaway of that one is, if32700:22:19.460 --> 00:22:25.259you're unsure, always mercy. Yeah, it's important, but don't be afraid32800:22:25.460 --> 00:22:30.690to share the truth of God's judgment, because if there is only mercy extended32900:22:30.930 --> 00:22:36.210and people truly don't have a senseof the weight, the waitingness of what33000:22:36.289 --> 00:22:41.329they're doing, the the and howGod's judgment will fall upon them, yeah,33100:22:41.450 --> 00:22:45.640then you're not truly showing love tothem because, yeah, you may33200:22:45.680 --> 00:22:48.519be merciful in them into Hell.Yeah, I mean, I guess the33300:22:48.680 --> 00:22:52.240picture an analogy that I've used before. You know, if someone's headed off33400:22:52.359 --> 00:22:56.799a cliff and they can't see it, but you're standing from a perspective they're33500:22:56.839 --> 00:23:00.950not and you can see the cliff. You know, you could yell out33600:23:00.990 --> 00:23:04.109to him Nice things and you cantalk positive things to him. Hey,33700:23:04.109 --> 00:23:07.470you know, you're walking real nicethere. You know, I don't want33800:23:07.509 --> 00:23:10.670to. Don't want to trip youup and I don't want to take you33900:23:10.789 --> 00:23:14.420away from what you're from your pleasurablewalk. Right, right, yeah,34000:23:14.619 --> 00:23:17.900but you need other direction. There'ssome beautiful trees. Yeah, trying to34100:23:17.940 --> 00:23:19.900convince them to get in the otherdirection because there's beautiful trees. I mean34200:23:19.940 --> 00:23:22.180sometimes you need to raise your voiceand say, Hey, you're headed toward34300:23:22.220 --> 00:23:26.769a cliff, you're going towards destruction. Yeah, but again, I think34400:23:26.970 --> 00:23:32.049your tone could matter in that,because you certainly don't want to frighten them34500:23:32.289 --> 00:23:34.609so that they speed up all themore. You know exactly want to try34600:23:34.650 --> 00:23:38.170to invite them to hey, yeah, how about not going toward that way?34700:23:38.650 --> 00:23:42.279Is a balance, and I thinkthe Holy Spirit definitely will help us34800:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.559to strike that balance in a waythat honors the Lord. Yeah, the34900:23:47.240 --> 00:23:52.799the second area, which is adichotomy in terms of we one is a35000:23:52.920 --> 00:23:57.430negative and one of is a positive, is faith versus fear. Yeah,35100:23:57.470 --> 00:24:03.029in the light of obstacles. Sothese MOMS have real obstacles. We may35200:24:03.069 --> 00:24:06.710not agree with them right, thatthey're never a justification. They never in35300:24:06.990 --> 00:24:10.619Chile, right. We never agreethat that those should lead to the death35400:24:10.660 --> 00:24:12.740of a child, but the fearis very real, very powerful, and35500:24:12.819 --> 00:24:18.700sometimes there are stories that do seem, from a human standpoint, absolutely unstoppable.35600:24:18.819 --> 00:24:22.099Yeah, absolutely. I mean,listen, I've had stories, I35700:24:22.180 --> 00:24:25.049think you've shared this to you,where you're dealing with a couple or you're35800:24:25.089 --> 00:24:27.809dealing with a mom and she sharesher story and you're thinking like okay,35900:24:27.930 --> 00:24:33.450if there ever was a justification forfor abortion, yeah, this is it,36000:24:33.730 --> 00:24:36.930right. I mean we never,never justify that, but yeah,36100:24:36.930 --> 00:24:38.720you just think in your mind it'slike, okay, they really are facings36200:24:38.799 --> 00:24:44.000and tough stuff cool. And soyou know, on one hand, some36300:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.359a pro life counselor who is tryingto reach an abortion minded woman cannot just36400:24:48.720 --> 00:24:56.470dismiss right ears and made make themfeel on heard, invalidated. Those fears36500:24:56.509 --> 00:25:02.470are real to them. Yeah,but on the other hand you don't want36600:25:02.470 --> 00:25:07.380them living in that place of fear. Right. You want to refocus on36700:25:07.500 --> 00:25:14.700the only place where they will findtruth and hope and truly a mind change,36800:25:14.740 --> 00:25:18.259yeah, towards life, and that'sin the Lord faith, absolutely faith,36900:25:18.299 --> 00:25:22.970yea submitting their life to God.So the balance there is is learning37000:25:23.730 --> 00:25:29.130how to listen and make sure theyfeel heard, that their fears are recognized,37100:25:30.089 --> 00:25:34.210but they're the fears are not whatshould drive the decision. Yeah,37200:25:34.650 --> 00:25:41.799and so one of refocusing their attention. I'll give a short story that that37300:25:42.000 --> 00:25:48.880happened today and then maybe you couldtalk about the the verses from Matthew about37400:25:48.200 --> 00:25:51.910you. You're walking on the water, which I think really is a great37500:25:52.190 --> 00:25:57.630illustration of what we're talking about.But today there was a couple that stopped37600:25:57.950 --> 00:26:02.589to talk with me and they werevery kind and very polite and they had37700:26:02.630 --> 00:26:10.259a beautiful little child in the backseat and they listened to me and said37800:26:10.299 --> 00:26:14.660that they they knew that God wouldnot have them do what they were about.37900:26:14.660 --> 00:26:17.420To talk to them. I rememberseeing you have the ready talking to38000:26:17.460 --> 00:26:19.289them car side. Yeah, andyou were talking to them at least ten38100:26:19.690 --> 00:26:25.170yeah, I talked with them along time and and they they said they38200:26:25.210 --> 00:26:30.089believed in God, they knew abortionwas wrong, they knew that the child38300:26:30.329 --> 00:26:33.480was a human being in the womband they knew that they would love that38400:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.160that child as much as they lovedthe little baby in the back seat and38500:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.119they were such good parents to thebaby in the back seat. And I38600:26:41.200 --> 00:26:44.119said, well, what is drivingthis? Why do you feel this is38700:26:44.240 --> 00:26:47.269what you need to do, andthey said the coronavirus. They both were38800:26:47.309 --> 00:26:49.509laid off from their job. Theywere already struggling. Yeah, and now38900:26:49.549 --> 00:26:55.589they had zero income and a landlordwho is not willing to help, and39000:26:56.470 --> 00:27:00.579so that fear had to be addressed, and that was a legitimate yeah here,39100:27:00.859 --> 00:27:03.940I mean you can just shirk thatoff. I mean think about how39200:27:03.940 --> 00:27:07.500that conversation would go if you said, let's notice the reason to murder child.39300:27:07.539 --> 00:27:10.819Turn turn your eyes on Jesus.Yeah, exactly go and be well,39400:27:11.059 --> 00:27:15.890yeah, be warring too. Exactlyso. And I think that that39500:27:17.130 --> 00:27:21.809situation is not uncommon. Maybe notquite as dire as their's, but it's39600:27:21.890 --> 00:27:26.210not uncommon. In fact, Iwould say every single time we confront an39700:27:26.210 --> 00:27:33.200abortion minded woman, there is somethingfueling some fear of some sort fueling her39800:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.480decision. The fear might be selfishness, it may be the fear and giving39900:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.559enough person, but but nonetheless thather eyes are on the obstacle, her40000:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.789fears, rather than on faith.Yea. And so the Peter Passage.40100:27:45.990 --> 00:27:49.230Yeah, so a lot of youguys know this passage where you or the40200:27:49.269 --> 00:27:52.069disciples are in a boat and Jesustells them to go on the other side40300:27:52.069 --> 00:27:55.829of the Sea of Galilee. Theygo on the boat. Storm rises up.40400:27:56.630 --> 00:28:00.259Jesus courses on the mountain side praying. When he sends them out,40500:28:00.420 --> 00:28:03.299the storm raises up. They thinkthey're going to die. They see Jesus40600:28:03.420 --> 00:28:07.819walking on the water. Peter says, you know, is afraid first,40700:28:07.819 --> 00:28:11.980and Jesus says was don't be afraid, it's me. Peter says, well,40800:28:11.059 --> 00:28:14.849it's you. Lord. Then didn'tcommanded me to come out, and40900:28:14.930 --> 00:28:17.890so he commands him, Jesus.Jesus Commands Peter to come out. Peter41000:28:18.009 --> 00:28:22.009Walks out on the water and he'swalking on the water, yeah, until41100:28:22.009 --> 00:28:25.170he starts looking at the wind andthe waves around him. Then he starts41200:28:25.250 --> 00:28:27.000to sink. The Lord reaches out, grabs him and saves him. But41300:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.799the point is, you know,once he takes his eyes off of Jesus41400:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.039faith, yeah, he starts togive, give into the realm of fear.41500:28:34.359 --> 00:28:37.279And where does he do? Hebegins to sink under the water.41600:28:37.400 --> 00:28:42.150And that is for for many ofus as believers, we can fall into41700:28:42.190 --> 00:28:47.029that. Yeah, but these motherswere they're already sinking a lot of times.41800:28:47.069 --> 00:28:48.990They've already taken their eyes because manyof them do say they believe in41900:28:49.069 --> 00:28:52.190the Lord, of course, youknow, obviously we would question whether they42000:28:52.230 --> 00:28:56.180have a weird relationship with him ifthey're coming to an abortion. Well,42100:28:56.220 --> 00:29:00.619I hear them say, yes,I believe in God, but but yeah,42200:29:00.619 --> 00:29:03.940there's the by and something. Isay, put your butt in the42300:29:03.980 --> 00:29:07.380way of God. Don't do that. Trust in the Lord. Don't put42400:29:07.380 --> 00:29:10.970your button away, right. Butyeah, we get that. And you42500:29:11.089 --> 00:29:15.329know, if we're honest as areas believers who you know? I feel42600:29:15.329 --> 00:29:18.569like I'm pretty serious about God,right, and feel like you are too.42700:29:18.650 --> 00:29:21.609Yeah, sometimes we put our buttin the way. Sometimes we take42800:29:21.609 --> 00:29:26.599our eyes off of the Lord andput our eyes on the circumstances around us.42900:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.160Look at what we what we're facinghere in this nation, with the43000:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.640coronavirus scare and all of that.People are you know, I trust you,43100:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.480Lord, but right, so Ineed to go by, you know,43200:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.630could jillion rolls a toilet paper oryou know, all this stuff.43300:29:40.630 --> 00:29:42.789I mean there's a nice connection there, right, and some of our butts43400:29:42.789 --> 00:29:48.549are bigger. That is that isthe case. It seems. It seems43500:29:48.630 --> 00:29:52.779so. Yeah, but you know, it's not that. There are there43600:29:52.859 --> 00:29:57.339isn't practical wisdom and all of thatstuff involved in that. But sometimes we43700:29:57.420 --> 00:30:00.619do put our butt in the wayof faith. Yeah, yeah, and43800:30:00.779 --> 00:30:04.460we get called in the realmos sinkand when we put our and so that43900:30:04.700 --> 00:30:11.450that that ability to again validate thefears that they're real. You understand,44000:30:11.809 --> 00:30:17.490we've heard them, but when youput your eyes on Jesus, that that's44100:30:17.529 --> 00:30:19.369what we're commanded to do. There'sso many verses we won't go through them44200:30:19.410 --> 00:30:22.680all, but there's so many versesthat tell us keep your eyes on,44300:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.119yeah, on the Lord. Yeah, the the command I think we mentioned44400:30:26.160 --> 00:30:32.119in the coronavirus podcast we did,the command to fear not. Is the44500:30:32.240 --> 00:30:37.589most commanded command. Yeah, ifyou will, in the Bible and God44600:30:37.710 --> 00:30:41.710calls us to fear not. Sowhen we're a side wall counselors, we're44700:30:41.710 --> 00:30:45.710speaking of those situations, we've gotto come from a perspective of faith.44800:30:45.869 --> 00:30:48.390Then one of the things that wecan do, this is something I encourage44900:30:48.390 --> 00:30:51.380you guys with, whether you're,you know, ministering or pregnancy center with45000:30:51.500 --> 00:30:55.180your ministering on the sidewalk, whetheryou're just speaking about pro life issues in45100:30:55.220 --> 00:31:00.500general, is sharing stories of God'sfaithfulness, sharing what you've seen God do45200:31:00.700 --> 00:31:03.890in your life, sharing what you'veseen God do and other people's lives.45300:31:03.970 --> 00:31:08.049We can share so many stories inthose, you know, are quotes,45400:31:08.130 --> 00:31:14.490impossible situations we've encounter the sidewalk.Yeah, we've seen God do some amazing45500:31:14.529 --> 00:31:18.640things. Yeah. So we havereason to believe that God is faithful.45600:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.920First and foremost, we have hisword that says he is, but also45700:31:22.000 --> 00:31:27.160we have these experiences and these storiesthat we can share where God has come45800:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.440through. Yeah. So with thatcouple, I know you you share and45900:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.630you can share all of what Godhas done and what God you've seen God46000:31:34.869 --> 00:31:40.430do in situations similar to theirs.Yeah, they ultimately it bulls down to46100:31:40.549 --> 00:31:44.869the fact that there's no situation thatjustifies murdering a child. And we keep46200:31:44.950 --> 00:31:47.579that as a standard, right,because God's Word is the standard. And46300:31:48.980 --> 00:31:53.619in a sense that we said wevalidate those fears. We do, I46400:31:53.700 --> 00:31:57.380guess we give some legitimacy to thosefears to say you actually hold to those46500:31:57.380 --> 00:32:00.490fears. But listen, there's aGod that you need to consider in the46600:32:00.529 --> 00:32:05.529midst of those fears, who saysfear not bringing that truth to bear and46700:32:05.609 --> 00:32:09.690sharing stories where you seen God's faithfulnessis a powerful way to speak faith in46800:32:10.170 --> 00:32:15.369to those fears. Yeah, andultimately, that is of everything that we46900:32:15.490 --> 00:32:17.359do. That, as I wouldsay, the most important thing that that47000:32:17.559 --> 00:32:22.240we do as people who are intercedingfor the unborn. Yeah, is to47100:32:22.319 --> 00:32:28.000remind people that there is a greatGod who loves the family, who knows47200:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.789that baby and has known that babybefore he was born. Yeah, and47300:32:31.109 --> 00:32:34.630that's who we need to put ourtrust in, our faith in. Yeah.47400:32:34.670 --> 00:32:37.990Absolutely. So, you know,basically, what we wanted to bring47500:32:38.029 --> 00:32:44.339to you guys attention just in recordingthis podcast and encourage you guys with is47600:32:44.420 --> 00:32:49.059that there is a balance of,yes, bringing the truth that God is47700:32:49.099 --> 00:32:52.940a god of justice, but alsobringing the truth that God is a god47800:32:52.980 --> 00:32:57.099of mercy, that we are too, as ministers of the Gospel, bring47900:32:57.299 --> 00:33:00.289the truth, to bring the grace, to bring them mercy, to bring48000:33:00.450 --> 00:33:06.289the wrath and these these truths togetherin a beautiful picture of who our God48100:33:06.609 --> 00:33:10.450is. He is a just God, he is a loving God, he48200:33:10.650 --> 00:33:15.839is a god of Wrath, heis a patient God. and to bring48300:33:15.960 --> 00:33:20.480those things, those truths, tobear, to bring a balanced message of48400:33:20.640 --> 00:33:24.640this God, of his Gospel andof his view of these MOMS and their48500:33:24.680 --> 00:33:30.150babies right and it does take usgetting in the word. It does take48600:33:30.190 --> 00:33:36.309us being in prayer and seeking Godfor his heart for these these babies and48700:33:36.470 --> 00:33:38.750for these these women. We ministerout of the heart of God. Will48800:33:38.829 --> 00:33:42.539never going to miss it. We'regoing to get it right. It's just48900:33:42.660 --> 00:33:44.980hard to minister out of the heartof God and not to get at her49000:33:45.019 --> 00:33:47.500own flesh. Yeah, so Ihope you guys were encouraged by this podcast.49100:33:49.380 --> 00:33:52.819Hope that you're blessed as yeah,as you've listened through and you know,49200:33:52.859 --> 00:33:54.500if you have some questions for us, you can certainly reach out to49300:33:54.579 --> 00:33:58.529me deep parks at cities for lifecom. You can reach out to Vicki v49400:33:58.650 --> 00:34:01.250COSSI, Oregan cities for lifecom.And we asked you know, you guys49500:34:01.289 --> 00:34:06.250that listen to this or blessed byshare this podcast with other people, shared49600:34:06.329 --> 00:34:08.570on social media, give us somefeedback, you know, let us know49700:34:08.690 --> 00:34:13.360that you're listening, let us knowthat you know there are subjects that we've49800:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.800covered that you're blessed by, oursubjects that we haven't yet covered. Let49900:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.079us know if there's some things thatwe can do better. We'd certainly like50000:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.800to hear your feedback on that.We appreciate you listening. Until next time,50100:34:22.840 --> 00:34:36.710God bless o love for love.Give me our love for gratitude.50200:34:38.780 --> 00:34:47.579I know it will cost me mylife. Nothing's too precious, and some50300:34:49.099 --> 00:34:49.539met you