May 6, 2021

Sidewalk Training: Offering Literature

Sidewalk Training: Offering Literature

Literature is a powerful and effective way to share the truth and help abortion-minded women choose life. In this episode, we give some practical tips and insights on how to offer literature in the most impactful way.


Literature is a powerful and effective way to share the truth and help abortion-minded women choose life. In this episode, we give some practical tips and insights on how to offer literature in the most impactful way.

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me. 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.310 Lord, I am welcome to the Gospel centered pro life podcast. We're 3 00:00:10.349 --> 00:00:13.189 going to continue to train, and today we're going to talk about handing out 4 00:00:13.230 --> 00:00:16.510 literature. What are some good pieces of literature to hand out and how to 5 00:00:16.550 --> 00:00:20.390 do it effectively? Stay with us as we talk about this important subject. 6 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:35.579 I felt show passish, touch your heart, use me. Welcome to the 7 00:00:35.659 --> 00:00:39.890 Gospel Center pro life podcast. Appreciate you guys, joining us as we continue 8 00:00:40.929 --> 00:00:44.969 to do some training and help equip you guys to be effective at the abortion 9 00:00:45.170 --> 00:00:48.929 centers. Help encourage you guys, those who've been out there for a while, 10 00:00:49.049 --> 00:00:52.560 we want to encourage you with maybe just some ways you can do things 11 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:55.920 differently or just remind you of some things you already know. Those who are 12 00:00:55.960 --> 00:01:00.320 brand new, would encourage you to step out in faith and use some of 13 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.750 the principles that we're teaching you in these podcasts to reach out to women, 14 00:01:04.269 --> 00:01:10.989 to see lives changed and the Gospel go forth. Baby saved all of that. 15 00:01:11.590 --> 00:01:18.739 Yep. So training, training is is necessary to really build our confidence, 16 00:01:18.819 --> 00:01:22.299 I think. Yeah, and really have the confidence that I think it 17 00:01:22.459 --> 00:01:26.780 takes to to convey to a woman who doesn't have confidence that she can trust 18 00:01:26.859 --> 00:01:30.780 the Lord, that she can trust you with the information that you're sharing with 19 00:01:30.900 --> 00:01:34.650 her. And we're going to talk about information. We're going to talk about 20 00:01:34.650 --> 00:01:41.409 I think several podcasts ago we talked about gathering information and stuff like that, 21 00:01:41.489 --> 00:01:45.849 I believe, but now we're talking about how to pass out this information right, 22 00:01:46.090 --> 00:01:49.079 and in particular, we're talking about brochures that you pass out the sure's 23 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:53.400 tracks. Yeah, ever, that that conveys what you need them to know 24 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:57.680 in order to make a choice for life. Yeah, right. And we've 25 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:02.989 seen baby saved by simply a mom getting a brochure, going into the parking 26 00:02:04.069 --> 00:02:07.310 lot, grabs a brochure, doesn't stop and talk, but takes that brochure. 27 00:02:07.389 --> 00:02:12.150 Some of them taken inside the abortion clinic. Yep, and that's was 28 00:02:12.349 --> 00:02:15.539 is he story? It was actually it happened today. That happened that today 29 00:02:15.740 --> 00:02:19.699 one of our counselors. A car stopped for her in the road. She 30 00:02:19.780 --> 00:02:23.139 handed them a brochure. She had very little time to speak with her. 31 00:02:23.219 --> 00:02:25.819 Plus the woman was Hispanic and didn't speak much English, so she gave her 32 00:02:25.900 --> 00:02:30.169 one of our Hispanic brochures. They drove in. Actually, they didn't even 33 00:02:30.210 --> 00:02:34.969 drive in, they didn't even enter. They told us they were there for 34 00:02:35.050 --> 00:02:38.490 an abortion, but they did not even enter the she looked at the brochure 35 00:02:38.569 --> 00:02:40.569 and they drove on past wow and never came back. Yeah, yeah, 36 00:02:40.689 --> 00:02:46.719 that's amazing. Yeah, so God uses this information. The podcast we did, 37 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:50.280 what we interviewed is he been a while ago? And Yeah, how 38 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:53.080 long ago it's been? Yeah, but her testimonies basically that she got a 39 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:58.400 brochure going into the abortion center, didn't even really stop and she didn't stop 40 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:00.669 and talk. She didn't even stop and tell on her way out that she 41 00:03:00.750 --> 00:03:04.509 was choosing life. Right, she got the information, like I mentioned, 42 00:03:05.069 --> 00:03:07.909 that had your number on the back of it, right, and called you 43 00:03:07.949 --> 00:03:10.030 a couple months later said hey, that help that you guys were calling out 44 00:03:10.069 --> 00:03:13.939 about? I want to take advantage of that. We were able to connected 45 00:03:14.020 --> 00:03:17.340 with the mentor. They'd give her a baby shower and she's been a friend 46 00:03:17.860 --> 00:03:23.979 of the family ever since. She has babies to now. So we're going 47 00:03:23.020 --> 00:03:27.930 to talk about passing out information. I'll talk about maybe some of the most, 48 00:03:28.409 --> 00:03:34.050 I think, effective information to hand out and q you guys in on 49 00:03:34.569 --> 00:03:37.969 if you're one of our missionaries would love life. You should already have information. 50 00:03:38.050 --> 00:03:42.120 But on a key you guys in on some available information that we have 51 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:46.479 on the sidewalks for life website. So there is a section there where we 52 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.240 have downloads, where you can just download. We have signage and this is 53 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:53.560 kind of just it's not branded with any particular brand or anything like that. 54 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.430 Sidewalks for life is not a brand. It's just a website that we have 55 00:03:57.509 --> 00:04:00.789 for equipping and we've thrown some things out there. And in the section printable 56 00:04:00.830 --> 00:04:05.430 resources, you'll see that at the top there's some literature. There's two brochures 57 00:04:05.469 --> 00:04:11.020 that we designed some years back that are really pointed and focused on the women 58 00:04:11.060 --> 00:04:14.659 going into the abortion center. They say hope and help for you on the 59 00:04:14.740 --> 00:04:17.699 front. One of them has a graphic image inside of a victim of abortion. 60 00:04:17.819 --> 00:04:20.420 We think that can be effective some people. Maybe you're not comfortable with 61 00:04:20.540 --> 00:04:25.850 sharing that, so we have one available that doesn't have that graphic image inside. 62 00:04:26.850 --> 00:04:30.529 We may talk a little bit about that using graphic images and information that 63 00:04:30.610 --> 00:04:32.730 you hand out right but just wanted to key you guys in on that. 64 00:04:32.810 --> 00:04:36.610 Available with these are downloads. You can just click on the picture of it 65 00:04:38.329 --> 00:04:42.399 and right hand corner. There should be a download button been on the browser 66 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.120 that you use. You download that, take it to a local print shop 67 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.079 that can print it. It's a trifold, so you'll have to tell them 68 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:51.990 that maybe there's an online resource for this. I don't haven't found on Vista 69 00:04:53.069 --> 00:04:57.069 print. A lot of people use Vista print that they have a trifold of 70 00:04:57.149 --> 00:05:00.470 this size that you can get them to print out for you. But it's 71 00:05:00.509 --> 00:05:03.149 just there for you guys to do with what you feel is best and totally 72 00:05:03.189 --> 00:05:08.540 free. Yeah, he provided because we've we've had a lot of experience out 73 00:05:08.540 --> 00:05:13.540 here. We kind of know what sorts of information the people are really most 74 00:05:13.779 --> 00:05:15.579 maybe swayed by. Yeah, and that's what we've tried to get into. 75 00:05:15.980 --> 00:05:19.459 Yeah, those pressures, because you know, the whole reason for handing out 76 00:05:19.459 --> 00:05:26.329 those psures, brochures is that in almost every abortion center that someone is going 77 00:05:26.329 --> 00:05:30.810 to minister at, you're going to have limited time and limited access. Yeah, 78 00:05:30.009 --> 00:05:39.199 and so how can you reach women given those limitations? And a brochure 79 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.959 can talk to them for a quite a while. Yeah. Yeah, with 80 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:46.360 the words that you were unable to say, but they can then see it 81 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:50.350 for themselves. Absolutely and maybe you don't feel it all comfortable in a one 82 00:05:50.470 --> 00:05:55.509 on one conversation. Yeah, and you just hand them a brochure. I 83 00:05:55.550 --> 00:05:57.750 mean, I would hope that you would have some things that you could say 84 00:05:57.750 --> 00:06:00.430 along with that, but if nothing else, it's kind of like sharing the 85 00:06:00.509 --> 00:06:04.500 Gospel. Give them a Gospel track, right. Yeah, it speaks volumes 86 00:06:04.540 --> 00:06:08.139 and it can say what you can't. Yeah, can say what maybe you 87 00:06:08.220 --> 00:06:12.019 don't feel your equip to say. Yeah, and I'm the brochure. Yeah, 88 00:06:12.100 --> 00:06:15.860 that God deal with them. So you've kind of started thinking about, 89 00:06:15.939 --> 00:06:20.449 well, what sorts of brochures, then, are are important? And we've 90 00:06:20.490 --> 00:06:25.129 kind of we've written an article that goes along with this. Well, we 91 00:06:25.290 --> 00:06:28.569 dis we did it, that's true. I did it all on my own. 92 00:06:28.649 --> 00:06:32.839 So, yeah, but that's okay. What takes you forty seven minutes 93 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:36.480 takes me forty seven days as far as writing is concerning. That's why Vicki 94 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:41.160 writes all of these articles, but I do plant the seeds sometimes, of 95 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:46.360 the ideas for the articles do, and you can always expound upon my framework 96 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.910 in ways that I cannot, which is why we make a good team. 97 00:06:49.949 --> 00:06:55.470 makes us like a dynamic that do add this sense, for sure, yeah, 98 00:06:55.990 --> 00:06:58.670 well, so the things I want to mention, and maybe you do, 99 00:07:00.310 --> 00:07:03.019 Gosh, being as she's carefully read over. Actually did read over this 100 00:07:03.139 --> 00:07:08.579 article, but I read a lot of stuff. Can't always remember what I 101 00:07:08.660 --> 00:07:11.300 read and what I didn't read. But I want to mention something that I 102 00:07:11.379 --> 00:07:15.300 mentioned in just talking to some folks the other day about handing out information. 103 00:07:15.459 --> 00:07:18.170 Someone's asking me about I kind of like what we hand out and why we 104 00:07:18.250 --> 00:07:23.329 don't hand out particular information like this information, that information, and one of 105 00:07:23.370 --> 00:07:27.050 the things I said, and maybe you disagree, okay, but I think 106 00:07:27.050 --> 00:07:30.480 you'll agree because I'm right. Okay, yeah, humbly. I say that 107 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:34.560 humbly. The most humble man they ever lived other than Moses. Yeah, 108 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:36.600 I mean, I'll tell him how to be humble. That I say. 109 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:43.600 There's something, but less is more right in this situation. Yeah, because 110 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.430 I've been to places where I've observed ministry people doing the best they can. 111 00:07:46.509 --> 00:07:50.430 So I'm not nitpicking anyone, I'm not trying to point out anyone. If 112 00:07:50.470 --> 00:07:53.629 you do this, I'm sorry, it's not you I'm talking about. I'm 113 00:07:53.629 --> 00:07:56.949 talking about somebody else right, but where they like will hand out a whole 114 00:07:56.949 --> 00:08:00.139 bag full of information. So they'll be like a Bible in there or a 115 00:08:00.220 --> 00:08:05.540 New Testament or some book that talks about abortion, just a bunch of stuff. 116 00:08:07.420 --> 00:08:09.300 And you got to think, though, from the mindset of a scared 117 00:08:09.379 --> 00:08:13.329 young mother going into the abortion center. If you give her a whole bag 118 00:08:13.410 --> 00:08:16.170 of stuff, I would bet you none of it's going to be read. 119 00:08:16.290 --> 00:08:20.209 Right. You really need something that gets right to the point. Yeah, 120 00:08:20.329 --> 00:08:22.290 that really speaks to her heart. You think about in our day and age, 121 00:08:22.410 --> 00:08:26.160 where a bullet point, you know, just glimpse, get it in 122 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:31.000 a glimpse kind of society. You got to be thinking like kind of social 123 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:35.559 media mindset. Right, you're scrolling through and you see a long bunch of 124 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.840 words on a Social Media Post. I mean you don't because you're you're a 125 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.070 rider and a reader. You don't keep scrolling, but I do. Yeah, 126 00:08:43.269 --> 00:08:48.669 I do sometimes that it's you're near absolutely right. You're absolutely right. 127 00:08:48.789 --> 00:08:52.509 You you give them. You know the whole how the Bible was created. 128 00:08:52.549 --> 00:08:58.820 Yeah, you know. They that's not the pressing issue is, why should 129 00:08:58.820 --> 00:09:01.419 I get an abord and why shouldn't I just talk me out of it if 130 00:09:01.500 --> 00:09:05.220 that's what I shouldn't do. Yeah, absolutely. Now, do think it's 131 00:09:05.220 --> 00:09:07.700 appropriate, which we do in the brochure, that we have to weave the 132 00:09:07.740 --> 00:09:11.370 Gospel, of course, and to weave scriptural truth into it. Right, 133 00:09:11.490 --> 00:09:16.289 right, these scriptural foundational truths are important. After all, if God's word 134 00:09:16.330 --> 00:09:18.809 didn't tell us that human beings are made in the image of God, then 135 00:09:20.250 --> 00:09:22.649 what in the world are we even doing out there trying to get people not 136 00:09:22.730 --> 00:09:24.759 to kill their children right there? Right, I mean people killed dogs and 137 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:28.960 cats all the time, running over from on the road and stuff, and 138 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.000 we don't stand out there and plead with them not to do that? Yeah, 139 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.440 because their value is different. Right, because the Bible says so, 140 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.440 although I don't want people killing cats and dogs on the road, I just 141 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:41.710 want to make sure you know that I understand. I don't would stop them, 142 00:09:41.830 --> 00:09:43.230 but you, but you might get your point, you get my point 143 00:09:43.309 --> 00:09:46.389 or not. Because God says human beings are made in the image of God. 144 00:09:46.669 --> 00:09:50.350 Right, we do what we do. The value of human life is 145 00:09:50.429 --> 00:09:54.259 based on what God says in his word, and so we put his word 146 00:09:54.340 --> 00:09:56.740 in our brochures. I really think it is appropriate to put God's word in 147 00:09:56.899 --> 00:10:01.539 the brochures, but I do not think it's appropriate to have a whole book 148 00:10:03.100 --> 00:10:05.659 trying to give it to somebody going into the abortion center that explains all the 149 00:10:05.740 --> 00:10:09.490 the scriptural proof that human beings are made in the image of God and why 150 00:10:09.529 --> 00:10:13.409 abortion is wrong based on the scriptures and all this other stuff. Right. 151 00:10:13.450 --> 00:10:18.129 So, so pick the most salient scripture that is most convincing and convicting. 152 00:10:18.169 --> 00:10:20.889 Yeah, that gets right to the point that it sets to the to the 153 00:10:20.970 --> 00:10:24.519 heart. Yeah, and I think really are three talk points that we talk 154 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:28.360 about are important if you're going to use a brochure, right, and that 155 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.919 brochure out. Yeah, those three talking points expounding on those. A brochure 156 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:33.559 that does that, I think is effective. Yeah, it's right to. 157 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.029 Yeah, why they're they're right. And so so that is kind of the 158 00:10:37.070 --> 00:10:43.590 first category of brochures that we have. We are focusing on the abortion minded 159 00:10:43.789 --> 00:10:50.379 woman entering the abortion clinic. Yeah, and so our informational brochure is we 160 00:10:50.500 --> 00:10:58.220 include the three talking points, we include the very important critical Bible verses and 161 00:10:58.379 --> 00:11:03.379 then and some of the resources. Yeah, right, and we also include 162 00:11:03.860 --> 00:11:07.850 explanations of abortion procedures. Right, that's something that's kind of I wouldn't say 163 00:11:07.850 --> 00:11:11.970 it's necessarily out of the framework of the three talking points that we talked about, 164 00:11:11.970 --> 00:11:18.759 because I think if you talk about abortion procedures in that you're describing the 165 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.679 humanity of the baby right, because you're talking about what these procedures actually do 166 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:24.240 to the baby. So I think that comes under the framework, yeah, 167 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.200 of the humanity of the baby. But I think it's important because many of 168 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.559 these women go into the abortion centers and have no clue. They think that 169 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:35.590 abortion, you know, suction, abortion, is just kind of like this 170 00:11:35.789 --> 00:11:39.509 magic thing, that surgical thing that happens and their babies not yet a person 171 00:11:39.629 --> 00:11:43.549 and it's going with their life, or the abortion pills just this magic peel 172 00:11:43.629 --> 00:11:46.860 that they swallow and their baby disappears and good, the problems disappearing, the 173 00:11:46.899 --> 00:11:50.620 going with their life. When you can describe to them, which we do, 174 00:11:50.779 --> 00:11:54.500 and this brochure that we hand out and this brochure that we've made available 175 00:11:54.179 --> 00:11:58.700 to you guys on the sidewalks for life website, it breaks that stuff down 176 00:11:58.740 --> 00:12:01.649 and it kind of tears off that overlay in the lies that this is just 177 00:12:01.809 --> 00:12:07.049 some kind of sterile medical procedure, surgical procedure. It really shows the act 178 00:12:07.129 --> 00:12:11.889 of violence that abortion is and I think that's a powerful way to help a 179 00:12:11.009 --> 00:12:13.769 mom choose life for her baby. It is and I have had many, 180 00:12:13.809 --> 00:12:18.519 many moms, including one I'm still been counseling for many months, who would 181 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:24.639 not look at or explore for herself what happened in an abortion because she said, 182 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.000 I don't want to see it. She was very open. I don't 183 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.990 want to see it. I know it's probably terrible. Yeah, so we 184 00:12:31.230 --> 00:12:35.590 think it's important that you see it. This is a life for death decision 185 00:12:35.669 --> 00:12:37.629 for a little human being. This is something you need to know, yeah, 186 00:12:37.710 --> 00:12:41.789 what you're going in and doing. Yeah, and so just to kind 187 00:12:41.830 --> 00:12:45.379 of circle back around on the point that I was making, I think just 188 00:12:45.740 --> 00:12:50.059 one piece of literature, one brochure, giving that to the women going into 189 00:12:50.059 --> 00:12:54.379 the abortion side, is enough. Yeah, and I think any more than 190 00:12:54.460 --> 00:12:58.169 that, and this is from personal experience and this is from talking to women 191 00:12:58.250 --> 00:13:01.490 that we've talked to over the years, yeah, and seeing it firsthand, 192 00:13:01.610 --> 00:13:05.370 I think any more than that it's too much. Yeah, and I think 193 00:13:05.370 --> 00:13:07.289 there could be a sense in which we're trying to load people up with information, 194 00:13:07.450 --> 00:13:13.039 to cover every subject under the sun, really to absolve our self of 195 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:15.480 guilt, because we might feel like, in one sense, we want to 196 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.559 touch every subject so we're not guilty of not saying everything that needs to be 197 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.480 said. Yeah, through literature. Yeah, and you can never say everything 198 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:24.840 that needs to be said. As a matter of fact, the things that 199 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.470 need to be said, I think, are in the brochure that we use. 200 00:13:28.789 --> 00:13:30.909 And again, if you are one of our missionaries with love life, 201 00:13:31.269 --> 00:13:37.110 hopefully you're getting our brochures. The hope is here brochures right. And again, 202 00:13:37.149 --> 00:13:39.350 if you're not one of our missionaries, we've made available this brochure which 203 00:13:39.389 --> 00:13:43.659 is pretty much the same, so a little different than what our missionaries hand 204 00:13:43.700 --> 00:13:46.379 out and our folks in our various cities hand out, but it's something that 205 00:13:46.419 --> 00:13:50.700 you guys can print off and you can hand out. There's some other places 206 00:13:50.779 --> 00:13:56.769 you can get brochures and things like that. On a Ray Comfort's website, 207 00:13:56.769 --> 00:14:01.370 they've got a track there that's really focused on, I think ministry, at 208 00:14:01.370 --> 00:14:03.929 abortion centers at least talks about the issue of abortion. The one hundred and 209 00:14:03.929 --> 00:14:07.649 eighty tract, I believe it's a little life in the womb. Has the 210 00:14:07.649 --> 00:14:11.399 one hundred and eighty movie a link to that on the back? Yeah, 211 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:13.960 I think it's. Think it's called life in the womb. It's a smaller 212 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.679 drive of babies in the womb and right. Yeah, yeah, and of 213 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.480 course Ray Comfort's going to be sharing the Gospel, right, the Gospel's greatly 214 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.230 let out. The brochure that we hand out has a clear explanation of the 215 00:14:26.309 --> 00:14:30.429 Gospel along the framework of what Ray Comfort would share. You know, the 216 00:14:30.470 --> 00:14:33.350 law breaks down, the law and our guilt because of our sin before God 217 00:14:33.509 --> 00:14:37.629 and then the solution, which is Jesus. Yeah, and so I think 218 00:14:37.669 --> 00:14:41.139 that that's very important. Yeah, so that's the first group, that women 219 00:14:41.259 --> 00:14:43.820 coming in, and one piece of information. I completely agree with you. 220 00:14:43.980 --> 00:14:46.700 In most cases, that is all you need to be handing them. And 221 00:14:46.779 --> 00:14:50.860 then we actually use a different brochure for the women who stopped for us, 222 00:14:52.059 --> 00:14:54.409 who are leaving, yeah, who are therefore post abortive. Yeah, and 223 00:14:54.529 --> 00:14:58.570 that that does have different information on it. Now that's some than that. 224 00:14:58.649 --> 00:15:03.490 Currently we only have here locally, okay, so we don't have a national 225 00:15:03.289 --> 00:15:09.120 brochure. Are Missionaries and other cities we don't have yet something created for them 226 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.759 to be able to use all their that is in the works. Is the 227 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:15.960 framework for it on the sidebox for life. So it's not they're either. 228 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.879 So there's not a post abortive. So, folks, they're just bug Daniel 229 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:24.070 and one day you two can have it, because it is really they are 230 00:15:24.230 --> 00:15:26.230 different. The the needs and what you're going to focus on. To a 231 00:15:26.309 --> 00:15:31.269 woman going into the abortion center who has not yet aborted, you're trying to 232 00:15:31.309 --> 00:15:35.179 convince her for why she should not abort. Yeah, but a woman leaving 233 00:15:35.259 --> 00:15:39.500 as someone who now is going to deal with the aftermath of abortion, the 234 00:15:39.620 --> 00:15:46.539 guilt, the sorrow or maybe just the even rejection that she's done something awful 235 00:15:46.820 --> 00:15:50.129 and is going to just bury it. Yeah, and it's stuff it and 236 00:15:50.330 --> 00:15:54.970 that is that's not good either. So we do have a brochure that that 237 00:15:56.129 --> 00:16:00.970 deals with that and, if you know, I think it's important for everyone 238 00:16:00.009 --> 00:16:03.639 to think about what are some things that might be the information you would want 239 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:07.679 on that kind of a brochure. But we do share the gospel. Again, 240 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:11.840 but there's a greater than focus on forgiveness. Yes, we don't focus 241 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.919 on on when they're on their way in because they'll use it to bolster their 242 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:22.990 idea that abortion is okay. Yeah, but but also talking about healing resources 243 00:16:23.629 --> 00:16:29.990 for post abortive women, which is really critical. And why that so critical 244 00:16:30.389 --> 00:16:37.860 in part is a third of abortions are return abortions. So you really want 245 00:16:37.899 --> 00:16:44.100 to reach these women who have had the abortion, because maybe that baby that 246 00:16:44.379 --> 00:16:51.370 day was not saved. But through healing resources, the Gospel and talking with 247 00:16:51.409 --> 00:16:55.769 these women coming out, you might be able to prevent future abortions. Yeah, 248 00:16:55.769 --> 00:17:00.129 save future babies. Yeah, and again, sadly we don't have that 249 00:17:00.289 --> 00:17:03.759 brochure available to be able to share with everybody nationally. Yeah, it's really 250 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.440 kind of locally focus. It has your testimony in it, right. Yeah, 251 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:11.920 but we are again to try to tweak that and craft that to be 252 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:14.640 able to share more nashally. Yeah, even put it on the sidewalks for 253 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:18.230 life website. Yeah, one thing I will mention resource that we've used in 254 00:17:18.230 --> 00:17:22.230 the past for post aboard of healing to hand out at the abortion centers is 255 00:17:22.269 --> 00:17:26.829 a brochure called healing the hurt. Right, come from focus on the family. 256 00:17:26.869 --> 00:17:30.980 I mean it's good, I guess, in a pinch, although, 257 00:17:30.859 --> 00:17:34.380 unless they've updated it, I don't really like it. As far as the 258 00:17:34.460 --> 00:17:41.740 Gospels Concern Yeah, I do not think it really clearly lays out that abortion 259 00:17:41.779 --> 00:17:45.210 is sin, yeah, and that it needs to be repented of. Now, 260 00:17:45.250 --> 00:17:48.049 I think there's there's a heavy handed way that that could come across. 261 00:17:48.170 --> 00:17:51.170 Right. Yeah, you know, you need to repent. You're going to 262 00:17:51.210 --> 00:17:52.650 burn in Halee to a woman who's already broken. I don't think we need 263 00:17:52.690 --> 00:17:56.450 to convey that kind of message, right, but I think it can be 264 00:17:56.490 --> 00:17:59.880 laid out very clearly that abortion is sin. Like if we don't talk about 265 00:17:59.880 --> 00:18:03.039 abortion being sin in a brochure that we're handing out. We want people to 266 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:07.519 be healed of the hurt that is abortion. Now understand and we understand that 267 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:12.349 it's not just the woman that's hurt through abortion, but the baby is tortured. 268 00:18:12.349 --> 00:18:15.750 Right, and then needs to be like. That has to be a 269 00:18:15.829 --> 00:18:18.230 you got to talk about that, right, because she will deal with that 270 00:18:18.589 --> 00:18:23.069 one day in her own heart and mind. I know from experience that it 271 00:18:23.150 --> 00:18:27.259 and it took many, many decades before I really dealt with what did I 272 00:18:27.380 --> 00:18:33.339 do, what happened to that child? So it'll be dealt with. No 273 00:18:33.420 --> 00:18:37.220 matter where you stand on the abortion line, you will one day think about 274 00:18:37.299 --> 00:18:41.170 that and it be really important to help her to think about it sooner rather 275 00:18:41.210 --> 00:18:45.609 than later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so healing the hurt. When 276 00:18:45.690 --> 00:18:48.369 we use we've used those, always put a gospel track in them, right, 277 00:18:48.410 --> 00:18:52.369 because I think they are good in some sense. They have some truths 278 00:18:52.450 --> 00:18:55.049 in there that can really help people. I guess. Well, not, 279 00:18:55.130 --> 00:18:59.039 I guess I know get the healing that they need. Yeah, but the 280 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:02.119 Gospel is not laid out clearly at all in that very sure. Yeah, 281 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:07.680 and they're kind of wordy. They're they're pretty. There's a lot of information 282 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.990 in them, once again kind of violating the first rule that we said, 283 00:19:10.990 --> 00:19:15.390 which is try to keep it really as short as possible or they're just not 284 00:19:15.509 --> 00:19:17.910 going to read it. Yeah, yeah, what's they're kind of expensive. 285 00:19:17.910 --> 00:19:21.029 I'm just looking on for family's website right now. I M I tried. 286 00:19:21.190 --> 00:19:23.380 Twenty five of them. Are Twelve and fifty. Yeah, so you know, 287 00:19:23.500 --> 00:19:26.660 you're handing out bunches of those. You'll go through the pretty quick I 288 00:19:26.740 --> 00:19:30.140 don't know, Daniel, don't, don't put man on a spot like that. 289 00:19:30.900 --> 00:19:34.579 You got your computers. Okay, Ye, it's well, that's not 290 00:19:34.660 --> 00:19:38.690 terrible, but it's still yeah, it's a cup of coffee. But another 291 00:19:38.730 --> 00:19:44.289 another group that you are going to see frequently. Well, every share, 292 00:19:44.609 --> 00:19:49.569 every time any abortion. I would be remiss not to mention the connection that 293 00:19:49.650 --> 00:19:53.759 we have within love life with a ministry called restored life and we're talking about 294 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:57.680 okay. So, yeah, Stephanie Ron Hart, who's local here but also 295 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:03.880 has a national focus and she's created a network of post aboard of healing ministries 296 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.269 across the nation, I think across the world. This wow. So if 297 00:20:07.309 --> 00:20:11.349 a woman was to call her from Utah, she knows somebody in Utah that 298 00:20:11.509 --> 00:20:15.230 she can connect that woman with. It can take them through a post aboard 299 00:20:15.230 --> 00:20:18.950 of healing. Yeah, and so if you maybe you want to create something 300 00:20:18.069 --> 00:20:22.059 yourself locally to use to reach out to post a board of women that are 301 00:20:22.099 --> 00:20:26.180 coming out some information to handle them, check out restored life. You can 302 00:20:26.220 --> 00:20:29.019 google search, you can go on our website and love life's website and you 303 00:20:29.019 --> 00:20:33.299 can find restored life. Or I think she forget the website address. Silly 304 00:20:33.339 --> 00:20:36.369 for me. Don't know that right now, but google it or email me. 305 00:20:37.049 --> 00:20:41.529 Definitely can connect you guys with Stephanie and we actually have some some are 306 00:20:41.650 --> 00:20:44.730 her cards that we can hand out to and get it to people that are 307 00:20:44.769 --> 00:20:45.970 coming out of the abortion center. So, and I didn't want to mention 308 00:20:47.049 --> 00:20:48.369 that. Yeah, that's a good point. And even if you don't have 309 00:20:48.490 --> 00:20:55.400 a post aboard of brochure, just having that information. I know of an 310 00:20:55.559 --> 00:21:00.839 online abortion healing may be. Putting that on just a piece of paper that 311 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:06.349 you print, print out and with a maybe pick a Bible verse. That's 312 00:21:06.390 --> 00:21:08.990 going to lead her at least to begin to think about what she has done 313 00:21:08.990 --> 00:21:14.630 in terms of God. That's that's useful. Yeah, that's that's helpful and 314 00:21:14.910 --> 00:21:17.829 anyone can do that. Yeah. So it looked at her website and I'm 315 00:21:17.869 --> 00:21:22.259 sure she's got a contact it's got a contact tab there. You can connect 316 00:21:22.299 --> 00:21:26.140 with her and she'd probably send you a stack of her business cards. Yeah, 317 00:21:26.619 --> 00:21:32.180 but it's restored life dot us. So okay. So that's another resource. 318 00:21:32.220 --> 00:21:34.809 Or maybe you have a connection to a local pregnancy center that has a 319 00:21:34.970 --> 00:21:38.569 post aboard of healing study or class or whatever, and you can get some 320 00:21:38.609 --> 00:21:44.329 cards for them. I think having something tangible to hand out is powerful though 321 00:21:44.369 --> 00:21:47.720 it is, it's just that you are saying you don't just care, because 322 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:51.599 we're always accused you just care about the baby and nothing about the women. 323 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:53.720 Well, we prove that that's a lie because we're still there when they're coming 324 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:57.400 out. Yeah, and we're handing them offers of help and hope. So, 325 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:02.190 so, yeah, those are all good points. But then, thirdly, 326 00:22:02.269 --> 00:22:07.869 in the types of brochures, typically that that we distribute at at the 327 00:22:07.910 --> 00:22:12.230 abortion center, we give information to the abortion workers at Johnson's ministry has all 328 00:22:12.230 --> 00:22:17.059 kinds of literature. She she can send that to you. Yeah, abortion 329 00:22:17.099 --> 00:22:22.420 workercom has a whole wealth of information and that is you know, if there's 330 00:22:22.460 --> 00:22:26.700 no abortion workers then there's no abortion. So so you do want to if 331 00:22:26.740 --> 00:22:29.779 you can, send them things that will may make them decide, hey, 332 00:22:29.779 --> 00:22:32.690 I don't want to work here any yeah. Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, 333 00:22:32.730 --> 00:22:34.970 like you mentioned, we have business cards that I think Abby Johnson and 334 00:22:36.049 --> 00:22:38.369 her ministry have sent us. Right, they just say I forget what they 335 00:22:38.369 --> 00:22:42.690 say, but has the abortion workercom website? Yeah, and that has a 336 00:22:42.730 --> 00:22:45.839 phone number they can call and it just lists the things that that they will 337 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.119 do to help the women and it's pretty amazing what they will do to help 338 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:53.319 help the abortion workers to leave the industry. Yeah, absolutely so. No 339 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.640 one that types of brochures. That's kind of the first step of how to 340 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.470 pass out information. Yeah, and I will mention that there are some other 341 00:23:00.589 --> 00:23:04.470 resources, some other I think it's heritage house. I keep on saying I 342 00:23:04.549 --> 00:23:08.750 think this. I think that is it should have all these websites memorize and 343 00:23:08.869 --> 00:23:17.019 all this. I think it's h seventy six dot org has some brochures there 344 00:23:17.779 --> 00:23:22.460 that are available for like, I think, for Down Syndrome. If someone 345 00:23:22.859 --> 00:23:26.660 thinks that they have a baby that has down syndrome, you can hand them 346 00:23:26.019 --> 00:23:29.849 that brochure. You. I don't think loading people up with a bunch of 347 00:23:29.890 --> 00:23:32.890 brochures is helpful, but if you, you know, are having a one 348 00:23:32.970 --> 00:23:37.049 on one conversation so with someone and they mentioned this or mentioned this subject or 349 00:23:37.089 --> 00:23:40.930 that subject, to have a brochure that's appropriate. Yeah, is helpful as 350 00:23:40.970 --> 00:23:44.680 they're mentioning a subjects. Yeah, I know I don't do this so much 351 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:48.920 anymore, but I used to collect all the verses in the Bible, or 352 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.720 a good number of them, that talked about sexual purity. Yeah, and 353 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:56.349 when someone would come in and talk about that, they are living with the 354 00:23:56.430 --> 00:24:00.309 boyfriend or whatever and they claim to be a Christian, I would have that 355 00:24:00.509 --> 00:24:04.109 list of verses printed out, those verses printed out, and I would hand 356 00:24:04.150 --> 00:24:07.789 it to them and say, well, you might want to check this out 357 00:24:07.829 --> 00:24:10.700 and see what God has to say. Yeah, about that, because if 358 00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:15.259 you're claiming that you love Jesus. Well, he he talks a lot about 359 00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:21.220 sexual purity in the Bible. Yeah, outside of marriage. So so again 360 00:24:21.299 --> 00:24:23.970 looking on the Internet. Thankfully I have my computer right here in front of 361 00:24:25.049 --> 00:24:26.769 me. Good, so I can look to find out as I'm forgetting them, 362 00:24:27.650 --> 00:24:32.890 but it's hundred and seventy six dot Org. Okay, and they've got 363 00:24:33.130 --> 00:24:37.930 his heritage. Heritage House is the ministry. They've got a bunch of literature 364 00:24:37.930 --> 00:24:41.279 there. They've got you're considering an abortion. It's one of their brochures. 365 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.839 Come ten reasons I want to abort, and so it goes through and just 366 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.880 kind of talks about these ten reasons. I haven't read these, don't know 367 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.440 how great they are. He has an abortion for reversal pamphlet. That maybe 368 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.390 be good to have and to hand out. That's a good thing to have. 369 00:24:55.630 --> 00:24:59.190 Yeah. So, anyway, for those who are not a a part 370 00:24:59.230 --> 00:25:03.789 of love life, there's these resources that are available in the heritage house, 371 00:25:03.829 --> 00:25:07.900 right. Yeah, so, so you got to have the brochures that that 372 00:25:07.220 --> 00:25:11.579 you know, be prepared with, with at least some brochures. And the 373 00:25:11.700 --> 00:25:14.259 next, next important step, and I know, Daniel, you spend a 374 00:25:14.299 --> 00:25:18.819 lot of time training our love life missionaries. And well then, what where 375 00:25:18.819 --> 00:25:22.210 do you stand? How do you situate yourself? Because all the brochuares in 376 00:25:22.210 --> 00:25:26.690 the world, if you've got them, but you can't hand them out because 377 00:25:26.769 --> 00:25:32.210 you don't know where to go. How To situate yourself strategically? Yeah, 378 00:25:32.369 --> 00:25:34.049 they won't do any good, they won't do the women any good. Correct. 379 00:25:34.089 --> 00:25:37.480 Yeah, just have brochures but not be able to give them. Price 380 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:40.039 hands as yeah, it's worthless, right. Yeah. Yeah, so what 381 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:44.680 are some things that we can think about then in terms of placing ourselves? 382 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:48.599 Yeah, I know every setting is different, so obviously you're going to have 383 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:51.630 to look at your own setting, but there are some kind of general principles, 384 00:25:51.670 --> 00:25:53.150 I think. Yeah. Well, I think if you're going to be 385 00:25:53.349 --> 00:25:57.910 like we are and an abortion center with vehicular traffic, right, you want 386 00:25:57.910 --> 00:26:00.710 to be at the driveway, the main driveway. Yeah, and typically there 387 00:26:00.869 --> 00:26:06.339 is a main driveway where abortion patients are pulling in. I would find out 388 00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:08.420 some of it were. Some abortion centers might have two driveways. Maybe they 389 00:26:08.420 --> 00:26:11.579 got a like kind of like wind over here, not toy far from where 390 00:26:11.619 --> 00:26:15.900 we are. Yeah, there's a front driveway in a back driveway. People 391 00:26:15.940 --> 00:26:21.410 do come in both driveways, but we position people at the front driveway because 392 00:26:21.730 --> 00:26:26.250 we know it's the most most traveled driveway where people come in and we have 393 00:26:26.369 --> 00:26:29.769 limited team size. So you know, sometimes you do have limitations and how 394 00:26:29.769 --> 00:26:32.609 many people you have them where you can place them. Yeah, yeah, 395 00:26:32.650 --> 00:26:34.599 so I kind of look at like priority spots, like about if there was 396 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.839 only one person out here, where would that person be? and to me, 397 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.920 if it's an abortion center with vehicular traffic, it would be at the 398 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.400 main driveway. If there's bills, only me out there, I would position 399 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.670 myself at the main driveway. I would not move from that position the whole 400 00:26:48.670 --> 00:26:52.230 time I was there. I'd be focusing on the people coming in and I 401 00:26:52.230 --> 00:26:55.109 will be trying to get literature into their hands. Yeah, from that position 402 00:26:55.269 --> 00:26:57.230 typically I can call out if I need to kind of shift rolls for a 403 00:26:57.309 --> 00:27:02.019 second rather than hand out literature, calling out to people going in, but 404 00:27:02.099 --> 00:27:07.380 I will focus at that main driveway. Another thing if you just have foot 405 00:27:07.460 --> 00:27:14.420 traffic, is to like for our folks in Manhattan, position yourself between wherever 406 00:27:14.579 --> 00:27:18.809 the most visited bus stop or train stop is, where the we're most people 407 00:27:18.809 --> 00:27:22.809 are coming from, and every direction that is between that, that area and 408 00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:26.809 the front door of the abortion center. Yeah, you know. So position 409 00:27:26.930 --> 00:27:29.650 yourself either on the right hand or left hand side of the door of the 410 00:27:29.650 --> 00:27:33.279 abortion center, based on where people are coming from. Kind of looking. 411 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:34.559 You know, you have to do your own kind of research and figure out 412 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:37.640 where people are coming from. But if you can position yourself where you can 413 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:42.920 reach from both directions people that are coming that's that's fine too. But I 414 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.990 really kind of look at priority positions and even I'll go on Google maps and 415 00:27:48.190 --> 00:27:52.549 figure out where the major interstates are where people would be coming to the abortion 416 00:27:52.630 --> 00:27:56.349 center from, and based on that, I'll google map it and see which 417 00:27:56.430 --> 00:27:59.180 direction they're coming from, so I know which direction to focus my attention. 418 00:27:59.420 --> 00:28:03.059 And you know that. That's amazing that you do that and I know you 419 00:28:03.099 --> 00:28:07.700 do that because we're on a loop the street that the abortion center that we 420 00:28:07.940 --> 00:28:14.369 minister at predominantly it's on a loop and the cars can come from either direction 421 00:28:14.730 --> 00:28:19.490 and depending on what gps they use, they determine the direction they come from. 422 00:28:19.769 --> 00:28:25.490 So we'll watch. Sometimes we know because GPS today is sending them down, 423 00:28:25.609 --> 00:28:26.440 you know, the other end of the road, but we'll watch and 424 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.599 we will always position our are people when we have extra people up the road 425 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.440 in the direction that we know the cars are coming from so that we can 426 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:40.559 stop them. So have you ever noticed, Anuel, that it is sometimes 427 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:47.269 easier if you can get them the information in their hands further away from the 428 00:28:47.910 --> 00:28:51.029 abortion center? Yeah, so, you know, up the road or whatever. 429 00:28:51.069 --> 00:28:53.109 Yeah, I mean, obviously getting them information before they get down to 430 00:28:53.190 --> 00:28:57.059 the battle zone right in front of the abortions is good. If you've got 431 00:28:57.140 --> 00:29:00.099 enough people to do that. That's an effective way to reach them. Get 432 00:29:00.140 --> 00:29:03.700 them to pull over to the side of the road when you're dealing with vehicular 433 00:29:03.740 --> 00:29:06.900 traffic, yeah, or you stop and talk with you if you're dealing with 434 00:29:06.980 --> 00:29:10.130 foot traffic. Yeah, getting them, yeah, before they're about to go 435 00:29:10.250 --> 00:29:12.410 in the door is as good, right, do yeah. Yeah, I 436 00:29:12.490 --> 00:29:17.529 feel like the pool of evil is just stronger and stronger the closer and closer 437 00:29:17.690 --> 00:29:21.410 and usually the contention and pro abortion. Yeah, if you got pro abortion 438 00:29:21.529 --> 00:29:23.210 people especially, oh, it's so hard. If you can, yeah, 439 00:29:23.210 --> 00:29:26.440 if you can stop folks and get them to talk to you before they get 440 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.359 to right there, within line of side of the abortion center, then and 441 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.759 that's good. Now all of that is dependent upon how many team members you 442 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.589 have, how many folks are out there with you, because I don't think 443 00:29:37.589 --> 00:29:41.589 you want to position yourself up the street if there's only one person there. 444 00:29:41.910 --> 00:29:45.069 You want to position yourself up the street away from the abortion center, because 445 00:29:45.109 --> 00:29:48.349 that that kind of hinders you from reaching the people who are walking in and 446 00:29:48.430 --> 00:29:51.829 out, calling out to them and that literature, right. Yeah, at 447 00:29:51.869 --> 00:29:56.180 the same time, sort of yeah. Yeah. So let's say we're position 448 00:29:56.259 --> 00:30:00.619 up the street and a car's coming. The next thing to think about, 449 00:30:00.900 --> 00:30:03.099 and handing out literature, is how do you get that car to stop? 450 00:30:03.299 --> 00:30:07.170 Yeah, for you? Yeah, very important. And there's some people that 451 00:30:07.289 --> 00:30:10.809 we call them car magnets. They're really good at that. Yeah, and 452 00:30:11.009 --> 00:30:14.809 other people they never seem to have a car stop for them. Yeah, 453 00:30:15.289 --> 00:30:18.809 but we've seen things that we think help. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, 454 00:30:18.809 --> 00:30:22.000 we were just seeing it couple Saturdays ago and you and I were up around 455 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.920 the corner and I think it does have to do with your body language, 456 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:33.119 it does have to do with your persistence. I can stay and you know, 457 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:34.829 one of the things I say is we don't want to just suggest to 458 00:30:34.950 --> 00:30:38.269 people with our body language and all of that, that maybe they might want 459 00:30:38.269 --> 00:30:42.430 to stop and take our information. But we need to be like graciously demanding, 460 00:30:44.069 --> 00:30:47.750 because what we have, as far as the information and the words that 461 00:30:47.829 --> 00:30:49.980 we can speak to them and the resources that we have for them, can 462 00:30:51.019 --> 00:30:52.980 be life and death, right. It could be life changing, right. 463 00:30:53.019 --> 00:30:56.339 Yeah. And so when we're trying to get people to stop, and now, 464 00:30:56.420 --> 00:31:00.660 we always talk about making ourselves approachable. So I'm not talking about being 465 00:31:00.740 --> 00:31:03.819 a, you know, a frantic, raving lunatic, yelling and waving your 466 00:31:03.859 --> 00:31:06.529 arm, stop, stop, you know. To me that's not helpful. 467 00:31:06.529 --> 00:31:10.690 That's going to scare more right. But I think first and foremost, smiling 468 00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:15.569 big old smile year to ear on your face, making eye contact as soon 469 00:31:15.690 --> 00:31:21.519 as possible. I mean really, what you're doing is your relationship building, 470 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.079 right. You're doing in that split second, and that split second in that 471 00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.200 as they're driving down the roads, are walking down the sidewalk, make contact 472 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.680 as soon as possible. That requires you guys that love to wear sunglasses, 473 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.390 to take your sunglasses all because your eyes are the windows to your soul. 474 00:31:36.509 --> 00:31:37.910 Right, they need to be able to see your eyes, they need to 475 00:31:37.950 --> 00:31:41.710 be able to see a smile in your face. You're trying to gain their 476 00:31:41.869 --> 00:31:47.220 trust, so much so that you want them to stop and take information right. 477 00:31:47.660 --> 00:31:49.980 So you've got to you got to be approachable, you've got to make 478 00:31:51.019 --> 00:31:53.339 sure they understand that you know you want them to stop, and I always 479 00:31:53.380 --> 00:31:56.460 will make sure, if I'm trying to hand out brochures, that I have 480 00:31:56.539 --> 00:32:01.410 a brochure clearly visible in my hand right and so I'm holding that out with 481 00:32:01.569 --> 00:32:05.609 one hand. Yeah, typically with my right hand. Yeah, and then 482 00:32:05.609 --> 00:32:08.849 I'm with my left hand sort of like in a waving stop motion. So 483 00:32:08.890 --> 00:32:12.490 I might wave just a little bit, but I'm having my hand up. 484 00:32:12.529 --> 00:32:15.450 You guys can't see me here listening to the part, doing a stop signal, 485 00:32:15.569 --> 00:32:17.480 but yet with your he have my hand out like that, still smiling. 486 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:21.279 Yeah, I'm doing like kind of waves stop motion like that, like 487 00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:25.359 you know, kind of hand back and forth. Yeah, and I'm pretty 488 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:31.470 expressive. Yeah, right, I'm not just mildly passively suggesting that they might 489 00:32:31.509 --> 00:32:36.069 stop or just I've seen people and again, I'm not knocking anybody, I'm 490 00:32:36.069 --> 00:32:38.190 not trying to put anybody down, but just kind of hold the brochure out 491 00:32:38.309 --> 00:32:40.750 just to show the the front cover of it. Yeah, yeah, and 492 00:32:42.230 --> 00:32:45.299 okay, some people might stop for that. Yeah, but if you're not 493 00:32:45.539 --> 00:32:47.380 giving them I think you got to give people a reason to stop. You 494 00:32:47.460 --> 00:32:52.779 got to peek their curiosity, and so I think holding out yes, but 495 00:32:52.859 --> 00:32:58.380 then waving your hand and with a stop kind of signal gives them an extra 496 00:32:58.609 --> 00:33:01.049 reason to stop. Yeah, and I think what what you describe? So 497 00:33:01.210 --> 00:33:08.490 you're you're being kind of you're saying you're almost demanding, grace graciously demanding, 498 00:33:08.809 --> 00:33:13.160 and that all begins with what's in your heart. What's your attitude? And 499 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:19.039 I love to train new volunteer saying you hold in your hand perhaps the most 500 00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.880 important thing they're going to see today, which is the reasons why God would 501 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:27.789 not have them kill their baby. What you are offering is life saving. 502 00:33:28.269 --> 00:33:34.069 This is so important. So No, and have in your attitude what I 503 00:33:34.230 --> 00:33:38.309 am offering is of value, and I think if you first of all believe 504 00:33:38.509 --> 00:33:43.740 that yourself and know that within your heart, that's expressed, yeah, in 505 00:33:43.980 --> 00:33:46.819 in how you then try to flag them down. Yeah, so is that 506 00:33:46.940 --> 00:33:51.940 the same sort of thing you would do approaching someone walking? I'm going to 507 00:33:51.980 --> 00:33:55.009 be a little less. I want to be careful that I'm not coming across 508 00:33:55.049 --> 00:33:59.569 as intimidating anything like that. So I might be a little less expressive with 509 00:33:59.690 --> 00:34:02.609 my body language, because I'm trying to stop an individual that's walking rather than 510 00:34:02.609 --> 00:34:07.130 a vehicle, right, but I still want to smile and make eye contest. 511 00:34:07.170 --> 00:34:08.889 Yeah, I still want to build a relationship with them, and it 512 00:34:08.969 --> 00:34:12.760 can be difficult, I know, when you're on a public street, public 513 00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:16.199 sidewalk, especially if it's a very busy sidewalk, and you can't make out 514 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:21.119 contact with every person if it's a busy sidewalk, right, but you can 515 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.909 kind of you can tell if people are coming to the abortion center. I 516 00:34:23.989 --> 00:34:27.750 mean, you know the age range between eighteen and twenty five, right. 517 00:34:27.750 --> 00:34:30.070 Yeah, you know the the demeanor that they come with. Typically they're not 518 00:34:30.230 --> 00:34:36.030 smiling. Sometimes, the clothes sometimes, yeah, and so you want to 519 00:34:36.829 --> 00:34:39.300 think, smile and make contact. I think you want to approach them, 520 00:34:39.619 --> 00:34:44.340 not like just run up to them real quick, but slowly approach them if 521 00:34:44.380 --> 00:34:47.500 you feel confident they're coming to the abortion center with information. Of course, 522 00:34:47.539 --> 00:34:52.059 you're not waving with a stop motion with your hands, right, because again, 523 00:34:52.139 --> 00:34:54.010 they're walking up. You're not grabbing them, yea, having all of 524 00:34:54.090 --> 00:34:58.090 them, you're not accosting them. If you are walking up to them with 525 00:34:58.210 --> 00:35:00.730 information and saying I think right for it. Are you coming to the abortion 526 00:35:00.809 --> 00:35:05.769 center have information for you. Yeah, yeah, I get the information of 527 00:35:05.849 --> 00:35:07.440 their hands as quick as you can. Yeah, that's that's good. And 528 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:13.599 sometimes I have said, and this can backfire, yeah, but I usually, 529 00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.320 in fact, I will say if I'm walking with someone and I'm approaching 530 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.719 them when they're walking, I will say it's okay if I walk with you 531 00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.349 for a little ways and sometimes they do say no, but almost always say 532 00:35:23.550 --> 00:35:28.869 they shrug and say okay, and then I feel like that is the first 533 00:35:29.030 --> 00:35:34.389 for me, kind of the first establishing I'm going to be respectful of you. 534 00:35:34.989 --> 00:35:37.539 But, like I said, a CAM backfire. When they say no, 535 00:35:37.179 --> 00:35:40.099 I stop, but I will call after them. Hey, I've got 536 00:35:40.179 --> 00:35:45.420 information that could really, really change your your decision today. Please stop it. 537 00:35:45.539 --> 00:35:49.940 Take my information. But then I if they've told me I can't walk 538 00:35:50.010 --> 00:35:53.650 with them, I won't. Yeah. So that's the danger and I guess 539 00:35:53.650 --> 00:35:57.610 I kind of just play that by ear. Sometimes kind of read. Yeah, 540 00:35:57.730 --> 00:36:00.210 read the person and yeah, yeah, absolutely, you got to kind 541 00:36:00.210 --> 00:36:05.800 of read the demeanor of people's faces if they feel if you can tell on 542 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.360 their face they they feel intimidated. Yeah, that sort of thing. You 543 00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.719 want to kind of give them space. Yeah, because this kind of flight 544 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.639 or fight situation can kick in. We certainly don't want them to fight us 545 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.349 and we certainly, yeah, certainly don't want them to fly away either. 546 00:36:19.349 --> 00:36:22.670 Yeah, I Dono though. Getting information of their hands as quick as possible 547 00:36:22.789 --> 00:36:27.429 is important. So if they're driving a car and they stop, I would 548 00:36:27.429 --> 00:36:30.869 give the information right away and then kind of get into the oneonone engagements and, 549 00:36:30.989 --> 00:36:35.579 yeah, talking to them. If they're walking up, Yay, I 550 00:36:35.659 --> 00:36:37.699 have something for you. Get the information to them. They might grab that 551 00:36:37.820 --> 00:36:42.059 information not knowing what it is and then they find out quickly. You know, 552 00:36:42.099 --> 00:36:44.340 you one of those pro life people and they keep walking. Yeah, 553 00:36:44.619 --> 00:36:46.409 they at least got the information in their hands. I some people try to 554 00:36:46.449 --> 00:36:50.050 hand it back to you and I'll just say no, you need that, 555 00:36:50.489 --> 00:36:53.489 I won't take it back for me, they would have to throw it on 556 00:36:53.570 --> 00:36:55.610 the ground before I'm going to take it back. At that point, once 557 00:36:55.650 --> 00:37:00.090 they have it, it's there's good, and so that's that's a good that's 558 00:37:00.130 --> 00:37:02.119 a good suggestion. I usually feel like, okay, I'll take it back, 559 00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.280 but but you don't. Okay, I don't know. Okay, I'll 560 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.400 let them, let them hang on to it. Yeah, I make them 561 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:08.840 feel guilty if they're going to throw it on the ground. By the way, 562 00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:13.760 this is a total kind of nonsecquitter, but it happened today, and 563 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.070 this, what you just shared, made me think of it. If someone 564 00:37:16.349 --> 00:37:21.789 is coming to the abortion center, this was someone driving and the first thing 565 00:37:21.829 --> 00:37:24.190 I did was what you said. Got The information in their hands and I 566 00:37:24.269 --> 00:37:28.070 said, are you headed to the women's center? And she said Yeah, 567 00:37:28.070 --> 00:37:30.300 we're is it? Don't tell them where it is. Yeah, don't tell 568 00:37:30.340 --> 00:37:32.780 them where it is. I know I've dealt with that several times. I 569 00:37:32.860 --> 00:37:37.059 had one lady begging me, yeah, to point her to where the abortion 570 00:37:37.139 --> 00:37:39.340 center was. He actually stopped up the road a little ways. Yeah, 571 00:37:39.539 --> 00:37:45.610 and I mean there was all these pro borts with signs with arrows that say 572 00:37:45.730 --> 00:37:49.769 clinic parking, there's all these police, there's like bearcases on a Saturday. 573 00:37:49.809 --> 00:37:53.130 Yeah, and like where at the Lord was blinding her eyes or something about. 574 00:37:53.130 --> 00:37:57.250 Certainly wouldn't going to be the the that person that points her to the 575 00:37:57.409 --> 00:38:00.159 that's right portion center. I that did it very gracious. They didn't say 576 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.000 I'm going to tell you were kill your baby. Didn't say that right, 577 00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:05.360 but I told her it. Listen, understand, you want to go to 578 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.559 the abortion center and I'm here to offer you help so that you don't go 579 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.960 in there. Yeah, but I cannot in good conscience point you into the 580 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.710 place that's going to kill your child. Right, beautiful. Yeah, and 581 00:38:14.869 --> 00:38:17.230 so she got kind of frustrated. Yeah, and again, graciously, I'm 582 00:38:17.230 --> 00:38:21.590 not just trying to be I'm not trying to be mean and I'm not trying 583 00:38:21.590 --> 00:38:25.110 to withhold information, but I can't do it. It's can't point you into 584 00:38:25.150 --> 00:38:29.179 the abortion center and by telling the truth of why you couldn't do it, 585 00:38:29.420 --> 00:38:32.780 you have already started the conversation back to God. Yeah, and to the 586 00:38:32.820 --> 00:38:38.579 value of that child and to a someone who is standing by some very strong 587 00:38:38.699 --> 00:38:43.769 moral convictions. All of that was communicated by saying that. So we would 588 00:38:43.929 --> 00:38:46.809 never say lie, you would never say tell them the wrong directions or anything 589 00:38:46.849 --> 00:38:50.769 like that, because that would not be honoring to God. But I just 590 00:38:50.929 --> 00:38:53.849 wanted to throw that out because a lot of our new counselors will face that 591 00:38:53.969 --> 00:38:57.400 and I've seen some of them just say, oh well, it's right there, 592 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.239 like an don't don't tell them where it is. You don't need to 593 00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.119 help them kill their baby. But it gives you an opportunity then to either 594 00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.679 do what you did or give them your agenda, which is, let me 595 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:12.550 give you information and let me tell you why I'm here. Yeah, now 596 00:39:12.670 --> 00:39:15.349 we'll say that I have done it before, like I have pointed women to 597 00:39:15.429 --> 00:39:22.349 the abortion center unknowingly, like I remember a situation in which stupid funny. 598 00:39:22.469 --> 00:39:28.179 Now, not funny, kind of like ironic. Yeah, we're she's asking 599 00:39:28.179 --> 00:39:30.739 where the abortion center is at. I'm not going to point you into the 600 00:39:30.780 --> 00:39:34.059 abortion center. I like point with my fingers as a point toward the abortion 601 00:39:34.099 --> 00:39:37.500 center, like a big dummy, and it indicated her right where it was 602 00:39:37.539 --> 00:39:40.010 at. Okay, so I have because I'm a talk with your hands kind 603 00:39:40.010 --> 00:39:43.289 of guy. Right, if you guys could see right now, I'm talking 604 00:39:43.369 --> 00:39:46.449 with my hand all around. It's just how I roll. Yeah, and 605 00:39:46.610 --> 00:39:52.039 so has as a natural reaction. If I'm thinking about a particular the location, 606 00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:57.159 I'll point in that direction. Yeah, and so, like keep my 607 00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.800 hands in my pocket and even your eyes, don't flick your eyes. Yeah, 608 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.480 fortunes for that young lady, though. Man. Okay, God must 609 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.590 be blinding her highest. Yeah, it can't get more obvious. There's signs 610 00:40:07.670 --> 00:40:12.710 with arrows pointing you there and every passed by the yeah, the place like 611 00:40:12.869 --> 00:40:16.389 twice. Yeah, it's amazing. So God blinded her eyes. I'm not 612 00:40:16.469 --> 00:40:19.829 going to be wanted the one to open them. That's right. Yeah. 613 00:40:20.030 --> 00:40:23.860 Yeah. So are there things that we that we've talked a lot about things 614 00:40:23.940 --> 00:40:28.019 to do? Yeah. Are there things that we shouldn't do? That would 615 00:40:28.420 --> 00:40:30.539 not be good? Yeah, I think we have that. Touched on a 616 00:40:30.579 --> 00:40:34.460 few of these and these principles apply, some of these at least, to 617 00:40:34.900 --> 00:40:38.010 whether we're calling out that we're in a one on one conversation or offering literature, 618 00:40:38.010 --> 00:40:40.889 any of the scenarios and which were communicating to a mom going into the 619 00:40:40.889 --> 00:40:45.610 abortion center. But I think number one that you have here on the list 620 00:40:45.650 --> 00:40:47.969 at least, and I agree it's probably on the top of the list at 621 00:40:47.969 --> 00:40:52.559 least, as don't be frantic, don't be just it's hard, but we 622 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:54.719 want to be confident. We don't want to be conveying to a woman going 623 00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.079 into the abortion center the same stuff she's feeling in our heart, this frantic, 624 00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:04.280 chaotic demeanor. Right, or make sure that we got it together now. 625 00:41:04.349 --> 00:41:07.110 We need that we get it together by the grace of God. Right. 626 00:41:07.150 --> 00:41:12.269 Yeah. Another thing you have here is don't be angry or condemning. 627 00:41:13.550 --> 00:41:15.150 You know, I think if we out of the gate, let's say, 628 00:41:15.469 --> 00:41:19.539 we do all the things that I just describe to you, with literature in 629 00:41:19.619 --> 00:41:22.099 our hands, vehicles coming down the road, we have our hand up and 630 00:41:22.139 --> 00:41:25.659 to stop motion. They stop and take our information and right away we handle 631 00:41:25.739 --> 00:41:30.139 the informations. They don't go kill your baby. That can be a non 632 00:41:30.460 --> 00:41:34.730 nonstarter to the conversation. Right. I think we really need to be thinking 633 00:41:34.769 --> 00:41:38.530 along the lines of relationship building. We want to gain their trust, right. 634 00:41:38.690 --> 00:41:43.769 The abortion center has done that, the devil has done that, gained 635 00:41:43.889 --> 00:41:47.559 their trust. Yeah, we want them to convey that trust from the abortion 636 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:51.679 center and from the lives of the devil to us. Yeah, and part 637 00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:53.599 of the way that we do that as our demeanor, the look on our 638 00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:58.480 face, the fact that we're kind, the fact that we're all ways. 639 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.110 Yeah, the things that we say. We want to be speaking the truth, 640 00:42:01.269 --> 00:42:04.989 but we want to be speaking it in the love and an approachable way, 641 00:42:05.309 --> 00:42:07.469 in a way that keeps them engage in the conversation. Yeah, but 642 00:42:07.510 --> 00:42:10.789 if we ride away, get to don't go in there and murder your child. 643 00:42:12.190 --> 00:42:15.469 Yeah, it can be a nonstarter to a conversation. Right. Yeah, 644 00:42:15.940 --> 00:42:20.380 there's always the tension of you do need to speak truth. Yeah, 645 00:42:21.300 --> 00:42:23.579 but when do you speak it? Run, and how forcibly do you speak 646 00:42:23.619 --> 00:42:29.500 it? And is there can you speak it in a way that is less 647 00:42:29.579 --> 00:42:34.210 confront of? Yeah, initially. Yeah, and you have here along those 648 00:42:34.250 --> 00:42:38.130 lines. Don't be too aggressive. Yeah, we want to be approachable and 649 00:42:38.690 --> 00:42:43.489 when they actually do approach us, we want to be conversational, want to 650 00:42:43.489 --> 00:42:46.480 be relatable so that they continue to talk to us. Yeah, you have 651 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.639 here. Don't clump up in groups so when you're trying to offer information, 652 00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.400 and this is this is hard. We fight against this constantly because out there 653 00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:57.800 on the side of what we love each other. When there's kind of a 654 00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.230 law in the traffic coming into the abortion center, we gravitate toward each other. 655 00:43:00.269 --> 00:43:04.030 We want to talk and encourage each other and we talked about scripture, 656 00:43:04.110 --> 00:43:06.710 we talked about the podcast, all these other things. Right, and we 657 00:43:06.829 --> 00:43:10.190 contend to clump up the driveway where people would typically stop and take information. 658 00:43:12.190 --> 00:43:15.380 You got to think again. In the mindset of a young mother going into 659 00:43:15.380 --> 00:43:19.059 the abortion center who scared, it's going to be hard for her to stop 660 00:43:19.139 --> 00:43:22.420 for just one person standing there by themselves. Right, but if you've got 661 00:43:22.420 --> 00:43:25.219 a group of four or five people standing there together, she ain't going to 662 00:43:25.300 --> 00:43:28.489 stop. That's right. I mean we've had some that do, but for 663 00:43:28.570 --> 00:43:30.690 the most part they're going to keep going in. They're not going to stop 664 00:43:30.730 --> 00:43:34.769 and taking information because it's intimidating. There is a whole group of people and 665 00:43:34.849 --> 00:43:37.329 they're trying to hide their sin, they're trying to, you, hide themselves. 666 00:43:37.610 --> 00:43:42.159 They're just going into this abortion center hoping they can get do their thing 667 00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.239 and going with their life. They don't want a bunch of people talking to 668 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.159 them and, you know, getting in their business. Yeah, but they 669 00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:52.079 might allow one person, right, and and more than one person adds to 670 00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.550 that already franticness. Yeah, of what they're feeling. If you've got several 671 00:43:55.590 --> 00:44:00.590 people approaching, several people offering the same thing, several people talking to you, 672 00:44:00.710 --> 00:44:04.110 it just becomes chaotic and frantic. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so 673 00:44:04.110 --> 00:44:06.670 I be thinking about that. As far as where you position people. I 674 00:44:06.789 --> 00:44:10.460 know, just kind of a tip for people that are putting together sidewalk teams 675 00:44:10.500 --> 00:44:15.179 and you're thinking through some of the practical stuff and putting together sidewalk team. 676 00:44:15.900 --> 00:44:21.019 Is Thinking about what I talked about earlier priority positions. So as I look 677 00:44:21.179 --> 00:44:24.090 at, and this is what I do, look at a Google map of 678 00:44:24.210 --> 00:44:29.329 the abortion center, kind of an overview of it, the sidewalk in front, 679 00:44:29.369 --> 00:44:31.530 of the public area in front, I look, okay, where's the 680 00:44:31.530 --> 00:44:37.050 driveway? Yet that's priority position number one. Where would they call out from 681 00:44:37.210 --> 00:44:39.360 to the people walking into the abortion center? That would typically be priority position 682 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.800 number two, and they would be thinking from there and building these positions for 683 00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:47.039 people to stand in, because against people purpose, the driveway person, they 684 00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.440 stand there with purpose that they're going to hand out information. The person calling 685 00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:53.710 out to women going into the abortion center, that person has that position. 686 00:44:53.750 --> 00:44:58.670 They take ownership of that position and it keeps them separated to they're they don't 687 00:44:58.710 --> 00:45:01.590 clump up at the driveway. You're at one particular area, but you have 688 00:45:01.710 --> 00:45:06.510 them spread out, because it is important to be spread out, as spread 689 00:45:06.510 --> 00:45:09.619 out as possible so we don't look like this big intimidating group of people right 690 00:45:09.659 --> 00:45:13.579 there in front of the abortions. Right and the same as honestly true, 691 00:45:13.579 --> 00:45:16.539 if a woman decides to leave the porch or leave the abortion center and approach 692 00:45:16.659 --> 00:45:22.289 one of the people on the sidewalk, the tendency is for every sidewalk counselor 693 00:45:22.409 --> 00:45:25.130 to go zipping over because they all want to be a part of it, 694 00:45:25.170 --> 00:45:30.650 and I understand that you're just so overjoyed and that's what you've been waiting all 695 00:45:30.730 --> 00:45:34.489 morning for us to see someone actually want to talk to us. But it's 696 00:45:34.570 --> 00:45:39.000 best really in most cases to just let that person she for whatever reason, 697 00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:43.960 chose to come talk to and let them alone with her. Yeah, to 698 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:49.039 build that very tenuous relationship. Yeah, absolutely. I will say as kind 699 00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.949 of a side note, because some of you guys that are listening maybe thanking 700 00:45:52.989 --> 00:45:55.670 maybe your missionaries with love life or you've been to a love life prayer Walker 701 00:45:55.789 --> 00:45:59.309 whatever, and you're thinking, okay, you're talking about not having big, 702 00:45:59.750 --> 00:46:04.070 intimidating groups of people in front of the abortion center. Yeah, and you 703 00:46:04.190 --> 00:46:07.380 guys do prayer walks where you have a big intimidate agree. That's a good 704 00:46:07.460 --> 00:46:10.099 point. Yeah. Yeah, well, we're intentional with our prayer walks when 705 00:46:10.139 --> 00:46:15.739 we're able to to do those across the street from the abortion center, to 706 00:46:15.820 --> 00:46:20.170 do those away from the areas where engagement would take place, and we have 707 00:46:20.530 --> 00:46:22.849 like just last Saturday we had a group of I think was a hundred, 708 00:46:22.929 --> 00:46:27.489 fifty prayer walkers on property that we own next to the abortion center. But 709 00:46:28.050 --> 00:46:30.409 we've not always own property. We've had more than that of the street that 710 00:46:30.570 --> 00:46:35.800 walk down and come and pray in front of the abortion center. Yet they 711 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.239 do it across the street and we still have engagement with people. We still 712 00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:42.920 have people to come and over and new abortion minded women come and talk with 713 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.840 us, stop and take information. The way that we position ourselves and way 714 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:50.590 we position the prayer walks is very intentional. Yeah, and so we kind 715 00:46:50.630 --> 00:46:55.750 of get those big intimidating groups away from the areas of engagement. We do 716 00:46:55.909 --> 00:47:01.820 that intentionally. Yeah, and they sign a non engagement whatever contract or whatever 717 00:47:01.940 --> 00:47:05.940 with love life, saying they were God there. It's verbal, but they 718 00:47:06.059 --> 00:47:09.739 know that they are not to the the love life prayer marchers are not to 719 00:47:09.860 --> 00:47:14.380 engage with right women. Yeah, so that it is not overwhelming. But 720 00:47:14.500 --> 00:47:16.929 just so last Saturday you said was you know, you pointed out there was 721 00:47:16.969 --> 00:47:22.889 like a hundred fifty people and I had three good conversations carside because I was 722 00:47:22.969 --> 00:47:27.369 up the road away from everybody else. Yeah, and and three cars stopped 723 00:47:27.409 --> 00:47:30.960 and we had lengthy conversations. So even when there is a large group, 724 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:36.400 if you position yourself strategically, you have an opportunity to every one of them. 725 00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.000 Took literature. Yeah, and I was able to speak with every one 726 00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:42.599 of them. Yeah, absolutely, and we're very intentional and trying to train 727 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.710 our missionaries, as they're doing prayer walks and that sort of thing, to 728 00:47:46.269 --> 00:47:51.550 position their prayer walk away from the air of engagement at the abortion center, 729 00:47:51.789 --> 00:47:55.150 typically within view of the abortion center, right, but in the best way 730 00:47:55.230 --> 00:48:00.699 we can to be as unintimidating as boss man. Again, the prayer walkers 731 00:48:00.699 --> 00:48:02.219 are not there to engage at it. They're just a prey. Yeah, 732 00:48:02.300 --> 00:48:06.699 and as a sidewall counsel myself, as I'm there in front of the abortion 733 00:48:06.820 --> 00:48:10.340 center and the prayer walkers are across the street, I will often times point 734 00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:13.929 to them and say there's a group of a hundred and fifty people, or 735 00:48:13.969 --> 00:48:16.210 how many ever, over there that are praying for you. Yeah, and 736 00:48:16.329 --> 00:48:21.130 we've had women they've chosen life because they saw that group of people that were 737 00:48:21.170 --> 00:48:23.170 there praying for them. They're so touched and they were touched by that. 738 00:48:23.210 --> 00:48:27.090 Yeah, she's life for their baby. Yeah, so God, God uses 739 00:48:27.130 --> 00:48:29.920 that. Just want to make sure you a touch on that. Yeah, 740 00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.159 that might have a questions. Yes, that's concerned. Yeah, don't force 741 00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:37.360 literature on them from it just while we definitely we've spent this whole podcast talking 742 00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:43.389 about how valuable the literature is. But never force it if they truly just 743 00:48:43.789 --> 00:48:46.630 do not want to take it from your hand, you know, or they 744 00:48:46.670 --> 00:48:50.389 drive away and are they're rolling up their window. Don't fling it through the 745 00:48:50.429 --> 00:48:53.510 window. That's illegal for one thing in most places. But if you just 746 00:48:53.670 --> 00:48:57.780 force it on them, they're just going to rip it up there if they're 747 00:48:57.860 --> 00:49:01.260 that adamant about not taking it. I never force, but sometimes, this 748 00:49:01.380 --> 00:49:06.739 happened today a man who is in and out about six times and just gave 749 00:49:06.820 --> 00:49:12.849 us some rather wonderful hand signals about it, about what he thought of our 750 00:49:12.929 --> 00:49:16.329 presence. Yeah, every time until the last time he pulled over and reached 751 00:49:16.369 --> 00:49:20.650 out his hand. Yeah, where you said persistence be that. Sometimes be 752 00:49:20.809 --> 00:49:24.079 persistent. Don't think just because it's been refused the first five times that the 753 00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:29.079 six time won't be the magic number. But don't force sit but offer. 754 00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.119 Offering. It is still important, just don't yours. Absolutely. Yeah, 755 00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:38.510 and like in those conversations or those situations where you're handing that literature to someone 756 00:49:38.550 --> 00:49:42.909 walking up the sidewalk. They tell you to back the F away from them, 757 00:49:42.989 --> 00:49:45.949 right, do so, and do so, because typically it's not going 758 00:49:45.949 --> 00:49:49.750 to be very good for you if you continue to invade their space, right, 759 00:49:49.829 --> 00:49:54.500 like being being intentional about not invading their space, being, you know, 760 00:49:54.739 --> 00:49:59.739 just aware, yeah, that you're breaching boundaries already. Yeah, you 761 00:49:59.940 --> 00:50:01.139 are. Say they're coming to it, you know, what they believed to 762 00:50:01.179 --> 00:50:06.619 be a medical, quote, medical procedure, and and you're kind of stepping 763 00:50:06.619 --> 00:50:07.650 in the way. You're like a hurdle on the way to that. Right, 764 00:50:07.769 --> 00:50:10.570 there's already guilt and stuff going on in their minds, so understand that. 765 00:50:12.210 --> 00:50:15.369 If they tell you to back away, back away and be aware of 766 00:50:15.409 --> 00:50:21.050 the fact that, you know, you still need to be as unintimidating as 767 00:50:21.130 --> 00:50:23.079 possible. Yeah, yeah, even if they don't tell you to back with 768 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:28.679 that's that's right. And you have here, which I really like. Don't 769 00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:30.639 be late. Don't be late, man. That's one of my pet peeves. 770 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:35.320 You know, if you say you're going to show up somewhere, show 771 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:38.670 up on time. Yeah, but it's so critical at an abortion center is 772 00:50:38.710 --> 00:50:44.190 yeah, yeah, yeah, if you can get there a little bit before 773 00:50:44.230 --> 00:50:47.389 the doors open. Getting there when they open, I mean great, but 774 00:50:47.429 --> 00:50:50.579 if you can be there just a little bit before they open, I mean 775 00:50:50.659 --> 00:50:53.099 some people in this day and age you're actually early for appointments, believe it 776 00:50:53.099 --> 00:50:57.179 or not. Yeah, and you have an opportunity before the doors are open 777 00:50:57.219 --> 00:50:59.500 to talk with them. Yeah, and you can give them a reason to 778 00:50:59.579 --> 00:51:01.219 come over and talk to you. Come and take your information. Hey, 779 00:51:01.260 --> 00:51:05.010 the doors ain't even open yet. Come over and take this information. Just 780 00:51:05.170 --> 00:51:07.610 read in your car. And we've had women come over or stop their car, 781 00:51:08.050 --> 00:51:10.849 take information, read in their car while they're waiting on the doors do 782 00:51:12.050 --> 00:51:16.489 yep. And also we strongly recommend that no one ever be out all by 783 00:51:16.530 --> 00:51:22.280 themselves alone. A minimum of two people for accountability, for protection, for 784 00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:28.800 whatever, for moral support. But so if you're late and one person is 785 00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:32.989 showed up, they are hampered, they're they're putting themselves in a bit of 786 00:51:34.030 --> 00:51:37.150 a dangerous situation. They were expecting to have two people there and that second 787 00:51:37.190 --> 00:51:40.510 person isn't there. Yeah, so it's that is one of my little pet 788 00:51:40.590 --> 00:51:46.300 peeps. I really am very it's rare for me to be late because my 789 00:51:46.659 --> 00:51:51.619 mom always taught me if you're late, you're saying that your time is way 790 00:51:51.699 --> 00:51:53.940 more valuable than the person that you're waiting for, whether or not that's or 791 00:51:54.019 --> 00:51:55.980 that's waiting for you. Whether or not that's true, I don't know, 792 00:51:57.059 --> 00:52:00.099 but don't be late. Show up on time. Absolutely remember. This is 793 00:52:00.260 --> 00:52:02.090 life and death. It is life and death. Yeah, mix thing. 794 00:52:02.250 --> 00:52:06.090 You've got a few other things mentioned here. You guys can read the article 795 00:52:06.250 --> 00:52:08.250 to get all of this in, but I do want to mention this. 796 00:52:08.289 --> 00:52:14.570 This to us is like so very important. Yeah, and it's number eleven 797 00:52:14.610 --> 00:52:19.440 are here on your list. Don't forget contact name and number on the literature, 798 00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.079 right. Yeah, now, we do encourage folks to get. We've 799 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.920 learned the hard way heavy we should get google voice number, and it's so 800 00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:29.880 easy. For All of you that are, like me, very afraid of 801 00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:34.550 technology, it is the easiest thing on earth to get a google voice number. 802 00:52:34.550 --> 00:52:37.630 You just Google it, it talks you through, it's super easy. 803 00:52:37.070 --> 00:52:42.190 It connects right with your regular phone. But the beauty of the Google voice 804 00:52:42.190 --> 00:52:45.380 number is they can't, no one can, trace where you live, and 805 00:52:45.500 --> 00:52:47.219 that's important. Yeah, absolutely. And then if you want to cut it 806 00:52:47.300 --> 00:52:51.579 off, you can like write some pro boorts get a hold of your your 807 00:52:51.619 --> 00:52:53.420 number. Yeah, I regular self on the police when he said how'd they 808 00:52:53.460 --> 00:52:55.300 get Ahold of it? Well, it's on the literature, and he just 809 00:52:55.380 --> 00:52:59.809 looked at me and said stupid, stupid, stupid. Yeah, yeah, 810 00:53:00.010 --> 00:53:02.849 okay, I learned some death threats, right, so be bright her, 811 00:53:02.929 --> 00:53:07.289 because that was a little scary. Yeah, but get a google voice number, 812 00:53:07.289 --> 00:53:13.239 yeah, or you could get maybe some cheap burner phone from Walmart or 813 00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:15.599 something if you wanted a number on that. If you wanted to do it 814 00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:17.679 like that and just be your ministry phone, might be a good idea. 815 00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:21.800 Yeah, but they're going to call you. You put your number on the 816 00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:23.400 literature, you're going to get calls, not only, of course, from 817 00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:27.349 the people you don't want calls from, because you will get some of those. 818 00:53:27.429 --> 00:53:30.230 I honestly, in nine years I've had very few of those, though, 819 00:53:30.989 --> 00:53:36.309 but if a mom calls you, she's calling again. She's very vulnerable 820 00:53:36.469 --> 00:53:39.389 and talking to her is so critical. So I always answer all those calls, 821 00:53:39.590 --> 00:53:43.059 even if I know that some of them are going to be really nasty, 822 00:53:43.940 --> 00:53:46.380 because it could save a life and it often has. Yeah, absolutely. 823 00:53:46.579 --> 00:53:49.659 So. Yeah, we've had baby. No last name, by the 824 00:53:49.699 --> 00:53:52.659 way. Don't put just to make that when we put when you put your 825 00:53:52.699 --> 00:53:54.619 name again, you don't want them to be able to trace to your home. 826 00:53:54.769 --> 00:53:58.610 For what? There are some unsavory characters set up our shore centers. 827 00:53:58.929 --> 00:54:00.849 So only a first name. Yeah, yeah, and, like I said, 828 00:54:00.889 --> 00:54:05.010 this is very important to us because there are people that would just take 829 00:54:05.050 --> 00:54:07.369 the information like is he, that won't talk, that won't tell us that 830 00:54:07.449 --> 00:54:10.960 they chose life. Yeah, but that we would ultimately be able to connect 831 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.199 with some discipleship, Mentorship, share the gospel with them, all of those 832 00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:19.239 things if they call us. They can't call us, though, if there's 833 00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:22.119 not a number there. Hey, and I do think, because some people 834 00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:23.789 ask, well, why don't you just get like a stamp and stamp it 835 00:54:23.909 --> 00:54:27.269 on there? Once you just have it printed on there. You're going to 836 00:54:27.309 --> 00:54:30.710 have a number, of personal number and just get print. I think handwritten, 837 00:54:30.789 --> 00:54:34.869 though, it is important because it's a personal touch, right. It's 838 00:54:34.909 --> 00:54:38.019 not just handing out some literature to somebody, but it's a brochure with important 839 00:54:38.019 --> 00:54:43.460 information with someone's personal contact number on the back. And then again, just 840 00:54:43.539 --> 00:54:45.980 thinking along these terms, obviously, if you're handed out Spanish literature, you 841 00:54:46.059 --> 00:54:50.099 want to have somebody that can speak Spanish. So if you have somebody locally, 842 00:54:50.179 --> 00:54:52.780 somebody in your church. We've got folks locally that let us put their 843 00:54:52.820 --> 00:54:54.690 name and number on the back of our brochures, on our Spanish brochures, 844 00:54:54.849 --> 00:54:59.250 right, because again, people take the information, maybe not talk, but 845 00:54:59.409 --> 00:55:02.449 call us later. And we've had women that have taken brochures that had a 846 00:55:02.489 --> 00:55:07.360 friend that they got a brochure from us. Their friend gave them your number 847 00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.920 from the brochure and you were able to help them to get resources and choose 848 00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:15.039 life and even be led to the Lord. That's right. Yeah, so 849 00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:20.760 we will wrap this podcast up. Yeah, hopefully it was encouragement to you 850 00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:24.590 guys, a little training and just this practical thing of handed out literature. 851 00:55:25.070 --> 00:55:30.309 If you guys have any questions about out this mentioned, about some resources where 852 00:55:30.309 --> 00:55:32.309 you can get it, get information, get literature and things like that to 853 00:55:32.469 --> 00:55:37.380 pat to pass out. If you need some clarity on that, certainly you 854 00:55:37.460 --> 00:55:39.380 can reach out to me, Daniel at Love Life Dot Org. You can 855 00:55:39.420 --> 00:55:43.179 reach out to Vicky, Vicky at Love Life Dot Org. We love to 856 00:55:43.219 --> 00:55:45.900 answer any questions that you have best we can. We're busy people these days, 857 00:55:46.380 --> 00:55:51.210 but we like to respond when we're able to. So please feel free 858 00:55:51.250 --> 00:55:53.849 to reach out to us, please share this podcast, please reach out to 859 00:55:53.969 --> 00:55:58.969 us with some suggestions for future podcast. We would love to hear some suggestions 860 00:55:59.010 --> 00:56:02.769 that you have and and you know, do some more training along the lines 861 00:56:02.849 --> 00:56:07.480 of stuff that you have questions about. If we can so with that, 862 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:12.079 we'll wrap this thing up and until next time. God bless, God bless. 863 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:23.909 Give me our love for love, give me our love for gratitude. 864 00:56:28.030 --> 00:56:37.739 I know it will cost me my life. 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