Sidewalk Training: Offering Literature

WEBVTT100:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me.200:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.310Lord, I am welcome to theGospel centered pro life podcast. We're300:00:10.349 --> 00:00:13.189going to continue to train, andtoday we're going to talk about handing out400:00:13.230 --> 00:00:16.510literature. What are some good piecesof literature to hand out and how to500:00:16.550 --> 00:00:20.390do it effectively? Stay with usas we talk about this important subject.600:00:23.660 --> 00:00:35.579I felt show passish, touch yourheart, use me. Welcome to the700:00:35.659 --> 00:00:39.890Gospel Center pro life podcast. Appreciateyou guys, joining us as we continue800:00:40.929 --> 00:00:44.969to do some training and help equipyou guys to be effective at the abortion900:00:45.170 --> 00:00:48.929centers. Help encourage you guys,those who've been out there for a while,1000:00:49.049 --> 00:00:52.560we want to encourage you with maybejust some ways you can do things1100:00:52.600 --> 00:00:55.920differently or just remind you of somethings you already know. Those who are1200:00:55.960 --> 00:01:00.320brand new, would encourage you tostep out in faith and use some of1300:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.750the principles that we're teaching you inthese podcasts to reach out to women,1400:01:04.269 --> 00:01:10.989to see lives changed and the Gospelgo forth. Baby saved all of that.1500:01:11.590 --> 00:01:18.739Yep. So training, training isis necessary to really build our confidence,1600:01:18.819 --> 00:01:22.299I think. Yeah, and reallyhave the confidence that I think it1700:01:22.459 --> 00:01:26.780takes to to convey to a womanwho doesn't have confidence that she can trust1800:01:26.859 --> 00:01:30.780the Lord, that she can trustyou with the information that you're sharing with1900:01:30.900 --> 00:01:34.650her. And we're going to talkabout information. We're going to talk about2000:01:34.650 --> 00:01:41.409I think several podcasts ago we talkedabout gathering information and stuff like that,2100:01:41.489 --> 00:01:45.849I believe, but now we're talkingabout how to pass out this information right,2200:01:46.090 --> 00:01:49.079and in particular, we're talking aboutbrochures that you pass out the sure's2300:01:49.159 --> 00:01:53.400tracks. Yeah, ever, thatthat conveys what you need them to know2400:01:53.959 --> 00:01:57.680in order to make a choice forlife. Yeah, right. And we've2500:01:57.719 --> 00:02:02.989seen baby saved by simply a momgetting a brochure, going into the parking2600:02:04.069 --> 00:02:07.310lot, grabs a brochure, doesn'tstop and talk, but takes that brochure.2700:02:07.389 --> 00:02:12.150Some of them taken inside the abortionclinic. Yep, and that's was2800:02:12.349 --> 00:02:15.539is he story? It was actuallyit happened today. That happened that today2900:02:15.740 --> 00:02:19.699one of our counselors. A carstopped for her in the road. She3000:02:19.780 --> 00:02:23.139handed them a brochure. She hadvery little time to speak with her.3100:02:23.219 --> 00:02:25.819Plus the woman was Hispanic and didn'tspeak much English, so she gave her3200:02:25.900 --> 00:02:30.169one of our Hispanic brochures. Theydrove in. Actually, they didn't even3300:02:30.210 --> 00:02:34.969drive in, they didn't even enter. They told us they were there for3400:02:35.050 --> 00:02:38.490an abortion, but they did noteven enter the she looked at the brochure3500:02:38.569 --> 00:02:40.569and they drove on past wow andnever came back. Yeah, yeah,3600:02:40.689 --> 00:02:46.719that's amazing. Yeah, so Goduses this information. The podcast we did,3700:02:46.800 --> 00:02:50.280what we interviewed is he been awhile ago? And Yeah, how3800:02:50.319 --> 00:02:53.080long ago it's been? Yeah,but her testimonies basically that she got a3900:02:53.159 --> 00:02:58.400brochure going into the abortion center,didn't even really stop and she didn't stop4000:02:58.479 --> 00:03:00.669and talk. She didn't even stopand tell on her way out that she4100:03:00.750 --> 00:03:04.509was choosing life. Right, shegot the information, like I mentioned,4200:03:05.069 --> 00:03:07.909that had your number on the backof it, right, and called you4300:03:07.949 --> 00:03:10.030a couple months later said hey,that help that you guys were calling out4400:03:10.069 --> 00:03:13.939about? I want to take advantageof that. We were able to connected4500:03:14.020 --> 00:03:17.340with the mentor. They'd give hera baby shower and she's been a friend4600:03:17.860 --> 00:03:23.979of the family ever since. Shehas babies to now. So we're going4700:03:23.020 --> 00:03:27.930to talk about passing out information.I'll talk about maybe some of the most,4800:03:28.409 --> 00:03:34.050I think, effective information to handout and q you guys in on4900:03:34.569 --> 00:03:37.969if you're one of our missionaries wouldlove life. You should already have information.5000:03:38.050 --> 00:03:42.120But on a key you guys inon some available information that we have5100:03:42.319 --> 00:03:46.479on the sidewalks for life website.So there is a section there where we5200:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.240have downloads, where you can justdownload. We have signage and this is5300:03:50.280 --> 00:03:53.560kind of just it's not branded withany particular brand or anything like that.5400:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.430Sidewalks for life is not a brand. It's just a website that we have5500:03:57.509 --> 00:04:00.789for equipping and we've thrown some thingsout there. And in the section printable5600:04:00.830 --> 00:04:05.430resources, you'll see that at thetop there's some literature. There's two brochures5700:04:05.469 --> 00:04:11.020that we designed some years back thatare really pointed and focused on the women5800:04:11.060 --> 00:04:14.659going into the abortion center. Theysay hope and help for you on the5900:04:14.740 --> 00:04:17.699front. One of them has agraphic image inside of a victim of abortion.6000:04:17.819 --> 00:04:20.420We think that can be effective somepeople. Maybe you're not comfortable with6100:04:20.540 --> 00:04:25.850sharing that, so we have oneavailable that doesn't have that graphic image inside.6200:04:26.850 --> 00:04:30.529We may talk a little bit aboutthat using graphic images and information that6300:04:30.610 --> 00:04:32.730you hand out right but just wantedto key you guys in on that.6400:04:32.810 --> 00:04:36.610Available with these are downloads. Youcan just click on the picture of it6500:04:38.329 --> 00:04:42.399and right hand corner. There shouldbe a download button been on the browser6600:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.120that you use. You download that, take it to a local print shop6700:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.079that can print it. It's atrifold, so you'll have to tell them6800:04:48.160 --> 00:04:51.990that maybe there's an online resource forthis. I don't haven't found on Vista6900:04:53.069 --> 00:04:57.069print. A lot of people useVista print that they have a trifold of7000:04:57.149 --> 00:05:00.470this size that you can get themto print out for you. But it's7100:05:00.509 --> 00:05:03.149just there for you guys to dowith what you feel is best and totally7200:05:03.189 --> 00:05:08.540free. Yeah, he provided becausewe've we've had a lot of experience out7300:05:08.540 --> 00:05:13.540here. We kind of know whatsorts of information the people are really most7400:05:13.779 --> 00:05:15.579maybe swayed by. Yeah, andthat's what we've tried to get into.7500:05:15.980 --> 00:05:19.459Yeah, those pressures, because youknow, the whole reason for handing out7600:05:19.459 --> 00:05:26.329those psures, brochures is that inalmost every abortion center that someone is going7700:05:26.329 --> 00:05:30.810to minister at, you're going tohave limited time and limited access. Yeah,7800:05:30.009 --> 00:05:39.199and so how can you reach womengiven those limitations? And a brochure7900:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.959can talk to them for a quitea while. Yeah. Yeah, with8000:05:43.079 --> 00:05:46.360the words that you were unable tosay, but they can then see it8100:05:46.480 --> 00:05:50.350for themselves. Absolutely and maybe youdon't feel it all comfortable in a one8200:05:50.470 --> 00:05:55.509on one conversation. Yeah, andyou just hand them a brochure. I8300:05:55.550 --> 00:05:57.750mean, I would hope that youwould have some things that you could say8400:05:57.750 --> 00:06:00.430along with that, but if nothingelse, it's kind of like sharing the8500:06:00.509 --> 00:06:04.500Gospel. Give them a Gospel track, right. Yeah, it speaks volumes8600:06:04.540 --> 00:06:08.139and it can say what you can't. Yeah, can say what maybe you8700:06:08.220 --> 00:06:12.019don't feel your equip to say.Yeah, and I'm the brochure. Yeah,8800:06:12.100 --> 00:06:15.860that God deal with them. Soyou've kind of started thinking about,8900:06:15.939 --> 00:06:20.449well, what sorts of brochures,then, are are important? And we've9000:06:20.490 --> 00:06:25.129kind of we've written an article thatgoes along with this. Well, we9100:06:25.290 --> 00:06:28.569dis we did it, that's true. I did it all on my own.9200:06:28.649 --> 00:06:32.839So, yeah, but that's okay. What takes you forty seven minutes9300:06:32.879 --> 00:06:36.480takes me forty seven days as faras writing is concerning. That's why Vicki9400:06:36.600 --> 00:06:41.160writes all of these articles, butI do plant the seeds sometimes, of9500:06:41.199 --> 00:06:46.360the ideas for the articles do,and you can always expound upon my framework9600:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.910in ways that I cannot, whichis why we make a good team.9700:06:49.949 --> 00:06:55.470makes us like a dynamic that doadd this sense, for sure, yeah,9800:06:55.990 --> 00:06:58.670well, so the things I wantto mention, and maybe you do,9900:07:00.310 --> 00:07:03.019Gosh, being as she's carefully readover. Actually did read over this10000:07:03.139 --> 00:07:08.579article, but I read a lotof stuff. Can't always remember what I10100:07:08.660 --> 00:07:11.300read and what I didn't read.But I want to mention something that I10200:07:11.379 --> 00:07:15.300mentioned in just talking to some folksthe other day about handing out information.10300:07:15.459 --> 00:07:18.170Someone's asking me about I kind oflike what we hand out and why we10400:07:18.250 --> 00:07:23.329don't hand out particular information like thisinformation, that information, and one of10500:07:23.370 --> 00:07:27.050the things I said, and maybeyou disagree, okay, but I think10600:07:27.050 --> 00:07:30.480you'll agree because I'm right. Okay, yeah, humbly. I say that10700:07:30.560 --> 00:07:34.560humbly. The most humble man theyever lived other than Moses. Yeah,10800:07:34.759 --> 00:07:36.600I mean, I'll tell him howto be humble. That I say.10900:07:36.639 --> 00:07:43.600There's something, but less is moreright in this situation. Yeah, because11000:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.430I've been to places where I've observedministry people doing the best they can.11100:07:46.509 --> 00:07:50.430So I'm not nitpicking anyone, I'mnot trying to point out anyone. If11200:07:50.470 --> 00:07:53.629you do this, I'm sorry,it's not you I'm talking about. I'm11300:07:53.629 --> 00:07:56.949talking about somebody else right, butwhere they like will hand out a whole11400:07:56.949 --> 00:08:00.139bag full of information. So they'llbe like a Bible in there or a11500:08:00.220 --> 00:08:05.540New Testament or some book that talksabout abortion, just a bunch of stuff.11600:08:07.420 --> 00:08:09.300And you got to think, though, from the mindset of a scared11700:08:09.379 --> 00:08:13.329young mother going into the abortion center. If you give her a whole bag11800:08:13.410 --> 00:08:16.170of stuff, I would bet younone of it's going to be read.11900:08:16.290 --> 00:08:20.209Right. You really need something thatgets right to the point. Yeah,12000:08:20.329 --> 00:08:22.290that really speaks to her heart.You think about in our day and age,12100:08:22.410 --> 00:08:26.160where a bullet point, you know, just glimpse, get it in12200:08:26.240 --> 00:08:31.000a glimpse kind of society. Yougot to be thinking like kind of social12300:08:31.079 --> 00:08:35.559media mindset. Right, you're scrollingthrough and you see a long bunch of12400:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.840words on a Social Media Post.I mean you don't because you're you're a12500:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.070rider and a reader. You don'tkeep scrolling, but I do. Yeah,12600:08:43.269 --> 00:08:48.669I do sometimes that it's you're nearabsolutely right. You're absolutely right.12700:08:48.789 --> 00:08:52.509You you give them. You knowthe whole how the Bible was created.12800:08:52.549 --> 00:08:58.820Yeah, you know. They that'snot the pressing issue is, why should12900:08:58.820 --> 00:09:01.419I get an abord and why shouldn'tI just talk me out of it if13000:09:01.500 --> 00:09:05.220that's what I shouldn't do. Yeah, absolutely. Now, do think it's13100:09:05.220 --> 00:09:07.700appropriate, which we do in thebrochure, that we have to weave the13200:09:07.740 --> 00:09:11.370Gospel, of course, and toweave scriptural truth into it. Right,13300:09:11.490 --> 00:09:16.289right, these scriptural foundational truths areimportant. After all, if God's word13400:09:16.330 --> 00:09:18.809didn't tell us that human beings aremade in the image of God, then13500:09:20.250 --> 00:09:22.649what in the world are we evendoing out there trying to get people not13600:09:22.730 --> 00:09:24.759to kill their children right there?Right, I mean people killed dogs and13700:09:26.360 --> 00:09:28.960cats all the time, running overfrom on the road and stuff, and13800:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.000we don't stand out there and pleadwith them not to do that? Yeah,13900:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.440because their value is different. Right, because the Bible says so,14000:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.440although I don't want people killing catsand dogs on the road, I just14100:09:37.559 --> 00:09:41.710want to make sure you know thatI understand. I don't would stop them,14200:09:41.830 --> 00:09:43.230but you, but you might getyour point, you get my point14300:09:43.309 --> 00:09:46.389or not. Because God says humanbeings are made in the image of God.14400:09:46.669 --> 00:09:50.350Right, we do what we do. The value of human life is14500:09:50.429 --> 00:09:54.259based on what God says in hisword, and so we put his word14600:09:54.340 --> 00:09:56.740in our brochures. I really thinkit is appropriate to put God's word in14700:09:56.899 --> 00:10:01.539the brochures, but I do notthink it's appropriate to have a whole book14800:10:03.100 --> 00:10:05.659trying to give it to somebody goinginto the abortion center that explains all the14900:10:05.740 --> 00:10:09.490the scriptural proof that human beings aremade in the image of God and why15000:10:09.529 --> 00:10:13.409abortion is wrong based on the scripturesand all this other stuff. Right.15100:10:13.450 --> 00:10:18.129So, so pick the most salientscripture that is most convincing and convicting.15200:10:18.169 --> 00:10:20.889Yeah, that gets right to thepoint that it sets to the to the15300:10:20.970 --> 00:10:24.519heart. Yeah, and I thinkreally are three talk points that we talk15400:10:24.600 --> 00:10:28.360about are important if you're going touse a brochure, right, and that15500:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.919brochure out. Yeah, those threetalking points expounding on those. A brochure15600:10:31.960 --> 00:10:33.559that does that, I think iseffective. Yeah, it's right to.15700:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.029Yeah, why they're they're right.And so so that is kind of the15800:10:37.070 --> 00:10:43.590first category of brochures that we have. We are focusing on the abortion minded15900:10:43.789 --> 00:10:50.379woman entering the abortion clinic. Yeah, and so our informational brochure is we16000:10:50.500 --> 00:10:58.220include the three talking points, weinclude the very important critical Bible verses and16100:10:58.379 --> 00:11:03.379then and some of the resources.Yeah, right, and we also include16200:11:03.860 --> 00:11:07.850explanations of abortion procedures. Right,that's something that's kind of I wouldn't say16300:11:07.850 --> 00:11:11.970it's necessarily out of the framework ofthe three talking points that we talked about,16400:11:11.970 --> 00:11:18.759because I think if you talk aboutabortion procedures in that you're describing the16500:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.679humanity of the baby right, becauseyou're talking about what these procedures actually do16600:11:22.799 --> 00:11:24.240to the baby. So I thinkthat comes under the framework, yeah,16700:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.200of the humanity of the baby.But I think it's important because many of16800:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.559these women go into the abortion centersand have no clue. They think that16900:11:31.679 --> 00:11:35.590abortion, you know, suction,abortion, is just kind of like this17000:11:35.789 --> 00:11:39.509magic thing, that surgical thing thathappens and their babies not yet a person17100:11:39.629 --> 00:11:43.549and it's going with their life,or the abortion pills just this magic peel17200:11:43.629 --> 00:11:46.860that they swallow and their baby disappearsand good, the problems disappearing, the17300:11:46.899 --> 00:11:50.620going with their life. When youcan describe to them, which we do,17400:11:50.779 --> 00:11:54.500and this brochure that we hand outand this brochure that we've made available17500:11:54.179 --> 00:11:58.700to you guys on the sidewalks forlife website, it breaks that stuff down17600:11:58.740 --> 00:12:01.649and it kind of tears off thatoverlay in the lies that this is just17700:12:01.809 --> 00:12:07.049some kind of sterile medical procedure,surgical procedure. It really shows the act17800:12:07.129 --> 00:12:11.889of violence that abortion is and Ithink that's a powerful way to help a17900:12:11.009 --> 00:12:13.769mom choose life for her baby.It is and I have had many,18000:12:13.809 --> 00:12:18.519many moms, including one I'm stillbeen counseling for many months, who would18100:12:18.600 --> 00:12:24.639not look at or explore for herselfwhat happened in an abortion because she said,18200:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.000I don't want to see it.She was very open. I don't18300:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.990want to see it. I knowit's probably terrible. Yeah, so we18400:12:31.230 --> 00:12:35.590think it's important that you see it. This is a life for death decision18500:12:35.669 --> 00:12:37.629for a little human being. Thisis something you need to know, yeah,18600:12:37.710 --> 00:12:41.789what you're going in and doing.Yeah, and so just to kind18700:12:41.830 --> 00:12:45.379of circle back around on the pointthat I was making, I think just18800:12:45.740 --> 00:12:50.059one piece of literature, one brochure, giving that to the women going into18900:12:50.059 --> 00:12:54.379the abortion side, is enough.Yeah, and I think any more than19000:12:54.460 --> 00:12:58.169that, and this is from personalexperience and this is from talking to women19100:12:58.250 --> 00:13:01.490that we've talked to over the years, yeah, and seeing it firsthand,19200:13:01.610 --> 00:13:05.370I think any more than that it'stoo much. Yeah, and I think19300:13:05.370 --> 00:13:07.289there could be a sense in whichwe're trying to load people up with information,19400:13:07.450 --> 00:13:13.039to cover every subject under the sun, really to absolve our self of19500:13:13.120 --> 00:13:15.480guilt, because we might feel like, in one sense, we want to19600:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.559touch every subject so we're not guiltyof not saying everything that needs to be19700:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.480said. Yeah, through literature.Yeah, and you can never say everything19800:13:22.480 --> 00:13:24.840that needs to be said. Asa matter of fact, the things that19900:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.470need to be said, I think, are in the brochure that we use.20000:13:28.789 --> 00:13:30.909And again, if you are oneof our missionaries with love life,20100:13:31.269 --> 00:13:37.110hopefully you're getting our brochures. Thehope is here brochures right. And again,20200:13:37.149 --> 00:13:39.350if you're not one of our missionaries, we've made available this brochure which20300:13:39.389 --> 00:13:43.659is pretty much the same, soa little different than what our missionaries hand20400:13:43.700 --> 00:13:46.379out and our folks in our variouscities hand out, but it's something that20500:13:46.419 --> 00:13:50.700you guys can print off and youcan hand out. There's some other places20600:13:50.779 --> 00:13:56.769you can get brochures and things likethat. On a Ray Comfort's website,20700:13:56.769 --> 00:14:01.370they've got a track there that's reallyfocused on, I think ministry, at20800:14:01.370 --> 00:14:03.929abortion centers at least talks about theissue of abortion. The one hundred and20900:14:03.929 --> 00:14:07.649eighty tract, I believe it's alittle life in the womb. Has the21000:14:07.649 --> 00:14:11.399one hundred and eighty movie a linkto that on the back? Yeah,21100:14:11.840 --> 00:14:13.960I think it's. Think it's calledlife in the womb. It's a smaller21200:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.679drive of babies in the womb andright. Yeah, yeah, and of21300:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.480course Ray Comfort's going to be sharingthe Gospel, right, the Gospel's greatly21400:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.230let out. The brochure that wehand out has a clear explanation of the21500:14:26.309 --> 00:14:30.429Gospel along the framework of what RayComfort would share. You know, the21600:14:30.470 --> 00:14:33.350law breaks down, the law andour guilt because of our sin before God21700:14:33.509 --> 00:14:37.629and then the solution, which isJesus. Yeah, and so I think21800:14:37.669 --> 00:14:41.139that that's very important. Yeah,so that's the first group, that women21900:14:41.259 --> 00:14:43.820coming in, and one piece ofinformation. I completely agree with you.22000:14:43.980 --> 00:14:46.700In most cases, that is allyou need to be handing them. And22100:14:46.779 --> 00:14:50.860then we actually use a different brochurefor the women who stopped for us,22200:14:52.059 --> 00:14:54.409who are leaving, yeah, whoare therefore post abortive. Yeah, and22300:14:54.529 --> 00:14:58.570that that does have different information onit. Now that's some than that.22400:14:58.649 --> 00:15:03.490Currently we only have here locally,okay, so we don't have a national22500:15:03.289 --> 00:15:09.120brochure. Are Missionaries and other citieswe don't have yet something created for them22600:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.759to be able to use all theirthat is in the works. Is the22700:15:11.879 --> 00:15:15.960framework for it on the sidebox forlife. So it's not they're either.22800:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.879So there's not a post abortive.So, folks, they're just bug Daniel22900:15:20.120 --> 00:15:24.070and one day you two can haveit, because it is really they are23000:15:24.230 --> 00:15:26.230different. The the needs and whatyou're going to focus on. To a23100:15:26.309 --> 00:15:31.269woman going into the abortion center whohas not yet aborted, you're trying to23200:15:31.309 --> 00:15:35.179convince her for why she should notabort. Yeah, but a woman leaving23300:15:35.259 --> 00:15:39.500as someone who now is going todeal with the aftermath of abortion, the23400:15:39.620 --> 00:15:46.539guilt, the sorrow or maybe justthe even rejection that she's done something awful23500:15:46.820 --> 00:15:50.129and is going to just bury it. Yeah, and it's stuff it and23600:15:50.330 --> 00:15:54.970that is that's not good either.So we do have a brochure that that23700:15:56.129 --> 00:16:00.970deals with that and, if youknow, I think it's important for everyone23800:16:00.009 --> 00:16:03.639to think about what are some thingsthat might be the information you would want23900:16:03.799 --> 00:16:07.679on that kind of a brochure.But we do share the gospel. Again,24000:16:07.759 --> 00:16:11.840but there's a greater than focus onforgiveness. Yes, we don't focus24100:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.919on on when they're on their wayin because they'll use it to bolster their24200:16:17.000 --> 00:16:22.990idea that abortion is okay. Yeah, but but also talking about healing resources24300:16:23.629 --> 00:16:29.990for post abortive women, which isreally critical. And why that so critical24400:16:30.389 --> 00:16:37.860in part is a third of abortionsare return abortions. So you really want24500:16:37.899 --> 00:16:44.100to reach these women who have hadthe abortion, because maybe that baby that24600:16:44.379 --> 00:16:51.370day was not saved. But throughhealing resources, the Gospel and talking with24700:16:51.409 --> 00:16:55.769these women coming out, you mightbe able to prevent future abortions. Yeah,24800:16:55.769 --> 00:17:00.129save future babies. Yeah, andagain, sadly we don't have that24900:17:00.289 --> 00:17:03.759brochure available to be able to sharewith everybody nationally. Yeah, it's really25000:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.440kind of locally focus. It hasyour testimony in it, right. Yeah,25100:17:07.559 --> 00:17:11.920but we are again to try totweak that and craft that to be25200:17:11.000 --> 00:17:14.640able to share more nashally. Yeah, even put it on the sidewalks for25300:17:14.720 --> 00:17:18.230life website. Yeah, one thingI will mention resource that we've used in25400:17:18.230 --> 00:17:22.230the past for post aboard of healingto hand out at the abortion centers is25500:17:22.269 --> 00:17:26.829a brochure called healing the hurt.Right, come from focus on the family.25600:17:26.869 --> 00:17:30.980I mean it's good, I guess, in a pinch, although,25700:17:30.859 --> 00:17:34.380unless they've updated it, I don'treally like it. As far as the25800:17:34.460 --> 00:17:41.740Gospels Concern Yeah, I do notthink it really clearly lays out that abortion25900:17:41.779 --> 00:17:45.210is sin, yeah, and thatit needs to be repented of. Now,26000:17:45.250 --> 00:17:48.049I think there's there's a heavy handedway that that could come across.26100:17:48.170 --> 00:17:51.170Right. Yeah, you know,you need to repent. You're going to26200:17:51.210 --> 00:17:52.650burn in Halee to a woman who'salready broken. I don't think we need26300:17:52.690 --> 00:17:56.450to convey that kind of message,right, but I think it can be26400:17:56.490 --> 00:17:59.880laid out very clearly that abortion issin. Like if we don't talk about26500:17:59.880 --> 00:18:03.039abortion being sin in a brochure thatwe're handing out. We want people to26600:18:03.079 --> 00:18:07.519be healed of the hurt that isabortion. Now understand and we understand that26700:18:08.519 --> 00:18:12.349it's not just the woman that's hurtthrough abortion, but the baby is tortured.26800:18:12.349 --> 00:18:15.750Right, and then needs to belike. That has to be a26900:18:15.829 --> 00:18:18.230you got to talk about that,right, because she will deal with that27000:18:18.589 --> 00:18:23.069one day in her own heart andmind. I know from experience that it27100:18:23.150 --> 00:18:27.259and it took many, many decadesbefore I really dealt with what did I27200:18:27.380 --> 00:18:33.339do, what happened to that child? So it'll be dealt with. No27300:18:33.420 --> 00:18:37.220matter where you stand on the abortionline, you will one day think about27400:18:37.299 --> 00:18:41.170that and it be really important tohelp her to think about it sooner rather27500:18:41.210 --> 00:18:45.609than later. Yeah, yeah,yeah, so healing the hurt. When27600:18:45.690 --> 00:18:48.369we use we've used those, alwaysput a gospel track in them, right,27700:18:48.410 --> 00:18:52.369because I think they are good insome sense. They have some truths27800:18:52.450 --> 00:18:55.049in there that can really help people. I guess. Well, not,27900:18:55.130 --> 00:18:59.039I guess I know get the healingthat they need. Yeah, but the28000:18:59.119 --> 00:19:02.119Gospel is not laid out clearly atall in that very sure. Yeah,28100:19:02.200 --> 00:19:07.680and they're kind of wordy. They'rethey're pretty. There's a lot of information28200:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.990in them, once again kind ofviolating the first rule that we said,28300:19:10.990 --> 00:19:15.390which is try to keep it reallyas short as possible or they're just not28400:19:15.509 --> 00:19:17.910going to read it. Yeah,yeah, what's they're kind of expensive.28500:19:17.910 --> 00:19:21.029I'm just looking on for family's websiteright now. I M I tried.28600:19:21.190 --> 00:19:23.380Twenty five of them. Are Twelveand fifty. Yeah, so you know,28700:19:23.500 --> 00:19:26.660you're handing out bunches of those.You'll go through the pretty quick I28800:19:26.740 --> 00:19:30.140don't know, Daniel, don't,don't put man on a spot like that.28900:19:30.900 --> 00:19:34.579You got your computers. Okay,Ye, it's well, that's not29000:19:34.660 --> 00:19:38.690terrible, but it's still yeah,it's a cup of coffee. But another29100:19:38.730 --> 00:19:44.289another group that you are going tosee frequently. Well, every share,29200:19:44.609 --> 00:19:49.569every time any abortion. I wouldbe remiss not to mention the connection that29300:19:49.650 --> 00:19:53.759we have within love life with aministry called restored life and we're talking about29400:19:53.759 --> 00:19:57.680okay. So, yeah, StephanieRon Hart, who's local here but also29500:19:59.000 --> 00:20:03.880has a national focus and she's createda network of post aboard of healing ministries29600:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.269across the nation, I think acrossthe world. This wow. So if29700:20:07.309 --> 00:20:11.349a woman was to call her fromUtah, she knows somebody in Utah that29800:20:11.509 --> 00:20:15.230she can connect that woman with.It can take them through a post aboard29900:20:15.230 --> 00:20:18.950of healing. Yeah, and soif you maybe you want to create something30000:20:18.069 --> 00:20:22.059yourself locally to use to reach outto post a board of women that are30100:20:22.099 --> 00:20:26.180coming out some information to handle them, check out restored life. You can30200:20:26.220 --> 00:20:29.019google search, you can go onour website and love life's website and you30300:20:29.019 --> 00:20:33.299can find restored life. Or Ithink she forget the website address. Silly30400:20:33.339 --> 00:20:36.369for me. Don't know that rightnow, but google it or email me.30500:20:37.049 --> 00:20:41.529Definitely can connect you guys with Stephanieand we actually have some some are30600:20:41.650 --> 00:20:44.730her cards that we can hand outto and get it to people that are30700:20:44.769 --> 00:20:45.970coming out of the abortion center.So, and I didn't want to mention30800:20:47.049 --> 00:20:48.369that. Yeah, that's a goodpoint. And even if you don't have30900:20:48.490 --> 00:20:55.400a post aboard of brochure, justhaving that information. I know of an31000:20:55.559 --> 00:21:00.839online abortion healing may be. Puttingthat on just a piece of paper that31100:21:00.960 --> 00:21:06.349you print, print out and witha maybe pick a Bible verse. That's31200:21:06.390 --> 00:21:08.990going to lead her at least tobegin to think about what she has done31300:21:08.990 --> 00:21:14.630in terms of God. That's that'suseful. Yeah, that's that's helpful and31400:21:14.910 --> 00:21:17.829anyone can do that. Yeah.So it looked at her website and I'm31500:21:17.869 --> 00:21:22.259sure she's got a contact it's gota contact tab there. You can connect31600:21:22.299 --> 00:21:26.140with her and she'd probably send youa stack of her business cards. Yeah,31700:21:26.619 --> 00:21:32.180but it's restored life dot us.So okay. So that's another resource.31800:21:32.220 --> 00:21:34.809Or maybe you have a connection toa local pregnancy center that has a31900:21:34.970 --> 00:21:38.569post aboard of healing study or classor whatever, and you can get some32000:21:38.609 --> 00:21:44.329cards for them. I think havingsomething tangible to hand out is powerful though32100:21:44.369 --> 00:21:47.720it is, it's just that youare saying you don't just care, because32200:21:47.759 --> 00:21:51.599we're always accused you just care aboutthe baby and nothing about the women.32300:21:51.720 --> 00:21:53.720Well, we prove that that's alie because we're still there when they're coming32400:21:53.720 --> 00:21:57.400out. Yeah, and we're handingthem offers of help and hope. So,32500:21:57.559 --> 00:22:02.190so, yeah, those are allgood points. But then, thirdly,32600:22:02.269 --> 00:22:07.869in the types of brochures, typicallythat that we distribute at at the32700:22:07.910 --> 00:22:12.230abortion center, we give information tothe abortion workers at Johnson's ministry has all32800:22:12.230 --> 00:22:17.059kinds of literature. She she cansend that to you. Yeah, abortion32900:22:17.099 --> 00:22:22.420workercom has a whole wealth of informationand that is you know, if there's33000:22:22.460 --> 00:22:26.700no abortion workers then there's no abortion. So so you do want to if33100:22:26.740 --> 00:22:29.779you can, send them things thatwill may make them decide, hey,33200:22:29.779 --> 00:22:32.690I don't want to work here anyyeah. Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah,33300:22:32.730 --> 00:22:34.970like you mentioned, we have businesscards that I think Abby Johnson and33400:22:36.049 --> 00:22:38.369her ministry have sent us. Right, they just say I forget what they33500:22:38.369 --> 00:22:42.690say, but has the abortion workercomwebsite? Yeah, and that has a33600:22:42.730 --> 00:22:45.839phone number they can call and itjust lists the things that that they will33700:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.119do to help the women and it'spretty amazing what they will do to help33800:22:49.279 --> 00:22:53.319help the abortion workers to leave theindustry. Yeah, absolutely so. No33900:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.640one that types of brochures. That'skind of the first step of how to34000:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.470pass out information. Yeah, andI will mention that there are some other34100:23:00.589 --> 00:23:04.470resources, some other I think it'sheritage house. I keep on saying I34200:23:04.549 --> 00:23:08.750think this. I think that isit should have all these websites memorize and34300:23:08.869 --> 00:23:17.019all this. I think it's hseventy six dot org has some brochures there34400:23:17.779 --> 00:23:22.460that are available for like, Ithink, for Down Syndrome. If someone34500:23:22.859 --> 00:23:26.660thinks that they have a baby thathas down syndrome, you can hand them34600:23:26.019 --> 00:23:29.849that brochure. You. I don'tthink loading people up with a bunch of34700:23:29.890 --> 00:23:32.890brochures is helpful, but if you, you know, are having a one34800:23:32.970 --> 00:23:37.049on one conversation so with someone andthey mentioned this or mentioned this subject or34900:23:37.089 --> 00:23:40.930that subject, to have a brochurethat's appropriate. Yeah, is helpful as35000:23:40.970 --> 00:23:44.680they're mentioning a subjects. Yeah,I know I don't do this so much35100:23:44.680 --> 00:23:48.920anymore, but I used to collectall the verses in the Bible, or35200:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.720a good number of them, thattalked about sexual purity. Yeah, and35300:23:52.119 --> 00:23:56.349when someone would come in and talkabout that, they are living with the35400:23:56.430 --> 00:24:00.309boyfriend or whatever and they claim tobe a Christian, I would have that35500:24:00.509 --> 00:24:04.109list of verses printed out, thoseverses printed out, and I would hand35600:24:04.150 --> 00:24:07.789it to them and say, well, you might want to check this out35700:24:07.829 --> 00:24:10.700and see what God has to say. Yeah, about that, because if35800:24:10.740 --> 00:24:15.259you're claiming that you love Jesus.Well, he he talks a lot about35900:24:15.380 --> 00:24:21.220sexual purity in the Bible. Yeah, outside of marriage. So so again36000:24:21.299 --> 00:24:23.970looking on the Internet. Thankfully Ihave my computer right here in front of36100:24:25.049 --> 00:24:26.769me. Good, so I canlook to find out as I'm forgetting them,36200:24:27.650 --> 00:24:32.890but it's hundred and seventy six dotOrg. Okay, and they've got36300:24:33.130 --> 00:24:37.930his heritage. Heritage House is theministry. They've got a bunch of literature36400:24:37.930 --> 00:24:41.279there. They've got you're considering anabortion. It's one of their brochures.36500:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.839Come ten reasons I want to abort, and so it goes through and just36600:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.880kind of talks about these ten reasons. I haven't read these, don't know36700:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.440how great they are. He hasan abortion for reversal pamphlet. That maybe36800:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.390be good to have and to handout. That's a good thing to have.36900:24:55.630 --> 00:24:59.190Yeah. So, anyway, forthose who are not a a part37000:24:59.230 --> 00:25:03.789of love life, there's these resourcesthat are available in the heritage house,37100:25:03.829 --> 00:25:07.900right. Yeah, so, soyou got to have the brochures that that37200:25:07.220 --> 00:25:11.579you know, be prepared with,with at least some brochures. And the37300:25:11.700 --> 00:25:14.259next, next important step, andI know, Daniel, you spend a37400:25:14.299 --> 00:25:18.819lot of time training our love lifemissionaries. And well then, what where37500:25:18.819 --> 00:25:22.210do you stand? How do yousituate yourself? Because all the brochuares in37600:25:22.210 --> 00:25:26.690the world, if you've got them, but you can't hand them out because37700:25:26.769 --> 00:25:32.210you don't know where to go.How To situate yourself strategically? Yeah,37800:25:32.369 --> 00:25:34.049they won't do any good, theywon't do the women any good. Correct.37900:25:34.089 --> 00:25:37.480Yeah, just have brochures but notbe able to give them. Price38000:25:37.559 --> 00:25:40.039hands as yeah, it's worthless,right. Yeah. Yeah, so what38100:25:40.119 --> 00:25:44.680are some things that we can thinkabout then in terms of placing ourselves?38200:25:44.759 --> 00:25:48.599Yeah, I know every setting isdifferent, so obviously you're going to have38300:25:48.680 --> 00:25:51.630to look at your own setting,but there are some kind of general principles,38400:25:51.670 --> 00:25:53.150I think. Yeah. Well,I think if you're going to be38500:25:53.349 --> 00:25:57.910like we are and an abortion centerwith vehicular traffic, right, you want38600:25:57.910 --> 00:26:00.710to be at the driveway, themain driveway. Yeah, and typically there38700:26:00.869 --> 00:26:06.339is a main driveway where abortion patientsare pulling in. I would find out38800:26:06.460 --> 00:26:08.420some of it were. Some abortioncenters might have two driveways. Maybe they38900:26:08.420 --> 00:26:11.579got a like kind of like windover here, not toy far from where39000:26:11.619 --> 00:26:15.900we are. Yeah, there's afront driveway in a back driveway. People39100:26:15.940 --> 00:26:21.410do come in both driveways, butwe position people at the front driveway because39200:26:21.730 --> 00:26:26.250we know it's the most most traveleddriveway where people come in and we have39300:26:26.369 --> 00:26:29.769limited team size. So you know, sometimes you do have limitations and how39400:26:29.769 --> 00:26:32.609many people you have them where youcan place them. Yeah, yeah,39500:26:32.650 --> 00:26:34.599so I kind of look at likepriority spots, like about if there was39600:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.839only one person out here, wherewould that person be? and to me,39700:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.920if it's an abortion center with vehiculartraffic, it would be at the39800:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.400main driveway. If there's bills,only me out there, I would position39900:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.670myself at the main driveway. Iwould not move from that position the whole40000:26:48.670 --> 00:26:52.230time I was there. I'd befocusing on the people coming in and I40100:26:52.230 --> 00:26:55.109will be trying to get literature intotheir hands. Yeah, from that position40200:26:55.269 --> 00:26:57.230typically I can call out if Ineed to kind of shift rolls for a40300:26:57.309 --> 00:27:02.019second rather than hand out literature,calling out to people going in, but40400:27:02.099 --> 00:27:07.380I will focus at that main driveway. Another thing if you just have foot40500:27:07.460 --> 00:27:14.420traffic, is to like for ourfolks in Manhattan, position yourself between wherever40600:27:14.579 --> 00:27:18.809the most visited bus stop or trainstop is, where the we're most people40700:27:18.809 --> 00:27:22.809are coming from, and every directionthat is between that, that area and40800:27:22.930 --> 00:27:26.809the front door of the abortion center. Yeah, you know. So position40900:27:26.930 --> 00:27:29.650yourself either on the right hand orleft hand side of the door of the41000:27:29.650 --> 00:27:33.279abortion center, based on where peopleare coming from. Kind of looking.41100:27:33.359 --> 00:27:34.559You know, you have to doyour own kind of research and figure out41200:27:34.599 --> 00:27:37.640where people are coming from. Butif you can position yourself where you can41300:27:37.680 --> 00:27:42.920reach from both directions people that arecoming that's that's fine too. But I41400:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.990really kind of look at priority positionsand even I'll go on Google maps and41500:27:48.190 --> 00:27:52.549figure out where the major interstates arewhere people would be coming to the abortion41600:27:52.630 --> 00:27:56.349center from, and based on that, I'll google map it and see which41700:27:56.430 --> 00:27:59.180direction they're coming from, so Iknow which direction to focus my attention.41800:27:59.420 --> 00:28:03.059And you know that. That's amazingthat you do that and I know you41900:28:03.099 --> 00:28:07.700do that because we're on a loopthe street that the abortion center that we42000:28:07.940 --> 00:28:14.369minister at predominantly it's on a loopand the cars can come from either direction42100:28:14.730 --> 00:28:19.490and depending on what gps they use, they determine the direction they come from.42200:28:19.769 --> 00:28:25.490So we'll watch. Sometimes we knowbecause GPS today is sending them down,42300:28:25.609 --> 00:28:26.440you know, the other end ofthe road, but we'll watch and42400:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.599we will always position our are peoplewhen we have extra people up the road42500:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.440in the direction that we know thecars are coming from so that we can42600:28:34.559 --> 00:28:40.559stop them. So have you evernoticed, Anuel, that it is sometimes42700:28:40.680 --> 00:28:47.269easier if you can get them theinformation in their hands further away from the42800:28:47.910 --> 00:28:51.029abortion center? Yeah, so,you know, up the road or whatever.42900:28:51.069 --> 00:28:53.109Yeah, I mean, obviously gettingthem information before they get down to43000:28:53.190 --> 00:28:57.059the battle zone right in front ofthe abortions is good. If you've got43100:28:57.140 --> 00:29:00.099enough people to do that. That'san effective way to reach them. Get43200:29:00.140 --> 00:29:03.700them to pull over to the sideof the road when you're dealing with vehicular43300:29:03.740 --> 00:29:06.900traffic, yeah, or you stopand talk with you if you're dealing with43400:29:06.980 --> 00:29:10.130foot traffic. Yeah, getting them, yeah, before they're about to go43500:29:10.250 --> 00:29:12.410in the door is as good,right, do yeah. Yeah, I43600:29:12.490 --> 00:29:17.529feel like the pool of evil isjust stronger and stronger the closer and closer43700:29:17.690 --> 00:29:21.410and usually the contention and pro abortion. Yeah, if you got pro abortion43800:29:21.529 --> 00:29:23.210people especially, oh, it's sohard. If you can, yeah,43900:29:23.210 --> 00:29:26.440if you can stop folks and getthem to talk to you before they get44000:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.359to right there, within line ofside of the abortion center, then and44100:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.759that's good. Now all of thatis dependent upon how many team members you44200:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.589have, how many folks are outthere with you, because I don't think44300:29:37.589 --> 00:29:41.589you want to position yourself up thestreet if there's only one person there.44400:29:41.910 --> 00:29:45.069You want to position yourself up thestreet away from the abortion center, because44500:29:45.109 --> 00:29:48.349that that kind of hinders you fromreaching the people who are walking in and44600:29:48.430 --> 00:29:51.829out, calling out to them andthat literature, right. Yeah, at44700:29:51.869 --> 00:29:56.180the same time, sort of yeah. Yeah. So let's say we're position44800:29:56.259 --> 00:30:00.619up the street and a car's coming. The next thing to think about,44900:30:00.900 --> 00:30:03.099and handing out literature, is howdo you get that car to stop?45000:30:03.299 --> 00:30:07.170Yeah, for you? Yeah,very important. And there's some people that45100:30:07.289 --> 00:30:10.809we call them car magnets. They'rereally good at that. Yeah, and45200:30:11.009 --> 00:30:14.809other people they never seem to havea car stop for them. Yeah,45300:30:15.289 --> 00:30:18.809but we've seen things that we thinkhelp. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah,45400:30:18.809 --> 00:30:22.000we were just seeing it couple Saturdaysago and you and I were up around45500:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.920the corner and I think it doeshave to do with your body language,45600:30:27.839 --> 00:30:33.119it does have to do with yourpersistence. I can stay and you know,45700:30:33.519 --> 00:30:34.829one of the things I say iswe don't want to just suggest to45800:30:34.950 --> 00:30:38.269people with our body language and allof that, that maybe they might want45900:30:38.269 --> 00:30:42.430to stop and take our information.But we need to be like graciously demanding,46000:30:44.069 --> 00:30:47.750because what we have, as faras the information and the words that46100:30:47.829 --> 00:30:49.980we can speak to them and theresources that we have for them, can46200:30:51.019 --> 00:30:52.980be life and death, right.It could be life changing, right.46300:30:53.019 --> 00:30:56.339Yeah. And so when we're tryingto get people to stop, and now,46400:30:56.420 --> 00:31:00.660we always talk about making ourselves approachable. So I'm not talking about being46500:31:00.740 --> 00:31:03.819a, you know, a frantic, raving lunatic, yelling and waving your46600:31:03.859 --> 00:31:06.529arm, stop, stop, youknow. To me that's not helpful.46700:31:06.529 --> 00:31:10.690That's going to scare more right.But I think first and foremost, smiling46800:31:11.130 --> 00:31:15.569big old smile year to ear onyour face, making eye contact as soon46900:31:15.690 --> 00:31:21.519as possible. I mean really,what you're doing is your relationship building,47000:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.079right. You're doing in that splitsecond, and that split second in that47100:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.200as they're driving down the roads,are walking down the sidewalk, make contact47200:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.680as soon as possible. That requiresyou guys that love to wear sunglasses,47300:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.390to take your sunglasses all because youreyes are the windows to your soul.47400:31:36.509 --> 00:31:37.910Right, they need to be ableto see your eyes, they need to47500:31:37.950 --> 00:31:41.710be able to see a smile inyour face. You're trying to gain their47600:31:41.869 --> 00:31:47.220trust, so much so that youwant them to stop and take information right.47700:31:47.660 --> 00:31:49.980So you've got to you got tobe approachable, you've got to make47800:31:51.019 --> 00:31:53.339sure they understand that you know youwant them to stop, and I always47900:31:53.380 --> 00:31:56.460will make sure, if I'm tryingto hand out brochures, that I have48000:31:56.539 --> 00:32:01.410a brochure clearly visible in my handright and so I'm holding that out with48100:32:01.569 --> 00:32:05.609one hand. Yeah, typically withmy right hand. Yeah, and then48200:32:05.609 --> 00:32:08.849I'm with my left hand sort oflike in a waving stop motion. So48300:32:08.890 --> 00:32:12.490I might wave just a little bit, but I'm having my hand up.48400:32:12.529 --> 00:32:15.450You guys can't see me here listeningto the part, doing a stop signal,48500:32:15.569 --> 00:32:17.480but yet with your he have myhand out like that, still smiling.48600:32:17.640 --> 00:32:21.279Yeah, I'm doing like kind ofwaves stop motion like that, like48700:32:21.559 --> 00:32:25.359you know, kind of hand backand forth. Yeah, and I'm pretty48800:32:25.400 --> 00:32:31.470expressive. Yeah, right, I'mnot just mildly passively suggesting that they might48900:32:31.509 --> 00:32:36.069stop or just I've seen people andagain, I'm not knocking anybody, I'm49000:32:36.069 --> 00:32:38.190not trying to put anybody down,but just kind of hold the brochure out49100:32:38.309 --> 00:32:40.750just to show the the front coverof it. Yeah, yeah, and49200:32:42.230 --> 00:32:45.299okay, some people might stop forthat. Yeah, but if you're not49300:32:45.539 --> 00:32:47.380giving them I think you got togive people a reason to stop. You49400:32:47.460 --> 00:32:52.779got to peek their curiosity, andso I think holding out yes, but49500:32:52.859 --> 00:32:58.380then waving your hand and with astop kind of signal gives them an extra49600:32:58.609 --> 00:33:01.049reason to stop. Yeah, andI think what what you describe? So49700:33:01.210 --> 00:33:08.490you're you're being kind of you're sayingyou're almost demanding, grace graciously demanding,49800:33:08.809 --> 00:33:13.160and that all begins with what's inyour heart. What's your attitude? And49900:33:13.240 --> 00:33:19.039I love to train new volunteer sayingyou hold in your hand perhaps the most50000:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.880important thing they're going to see today, which is the reasons why God would50100:33:22.880 --> 00:33:27.789not have them kill their baby.What you are offering is life saving.50200:33:28.269 --> 00:33:34.069This is so important. So No, and have in your attitude what I50300:33:34.230 --> 00:33:38.309am offering is of value, andI think if you first of all believe50400:33:38.509 --> 00:33:43.740that yourself and know that within yourheart, that's expressed, yeah, in50500:33:43.980 --> 00:33:46.819in how you then try to flagthem down. Yeah, so is that50600:33:46.940 --> 00:33:51.940the same sort of thing you woulddo approaching someone walking? I'm going to50700:33:51.980 --> 00:33:55.009be a little less. I wantto be careful that I'm not coming across50800:33:55.049 --> 00:33:59.569as intimidating anything like that. SoI might be a little less expressive with50900:33:59.690 --> 00:34:02.609my body language, because I'm tryingto stop an individual that's walking rather than51000:34:02.609 --> 00:34:07.130a vehicle, right, but Istill want to smile and make eye contest.51100:34:07.170 --> 00:34:08.889Yeah, I still want to builda relationship with them, and it51200:34:08.969 --> 00:34:12.760can be difficult, I know,when you're on a public street, public51300:34:12.840 --> 00:34:16.199sidewalk, especially if it's a verybusy sidewalk, and you can't make out51400:34:16.239 --> 00:34:21.119contact with every person if it's abusy sidewalk, right, but you can51500:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.909kind of you can tell if peopleare coming to the abortion center. I51600:34:23.989 --> 00:34:27.750mean, you know the age rangebetween eighteen and twenty five, right.51700:34:27.750 --> 00:34:30.070Yeah, you know the the demeanorthat they come with. Typically they're not51800:34:30.230 --> 00:34:36.030smiling. Sometimes, the clothes sometimes, yeah, and so you want to51900:34:36.829 --> 00:34:39.300think, smile and make contact.I think you want to approach them,52000:34:39.619 --> 00:34:44.340not like just run up to themreal quick, but slowly approach them if52100:34:44.380 --> 00:34:47.500you feel confident they're coming to theabortion center with information. Of course,52200:34:47.539 --> 00:34:52.059you're not waving with a stop motionwith your hands, right, because again,52300:34:52.139 --> 00:34:54.010they're walking up. You're not grabbingthem, yea, having all of52400:34:54.090 --> 00:34:58.090them, you're not accosting them.If you are walking up to them with52500:34:58.210 --> 00:35:00.730information and saying I think right forit. Are you coming to the abortion52600:35:00.809 --> 00:35:05.769center have information for you. Yeah, yeah, I get the information of52700:35:05.849 --> 00:35:07.440their hands as quick as you can. Yeah, that's that's good. And52800:35:07.559 --> 00:35:13.599sometimes I have said, and thiscan backfire, yeah, but I usually,52900:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.320in fact, I will say ifI'm walking with someone and I'm approaching53000:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.719them when they're walking, I willsay it's okay if I walk with you53100:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.349for a little ways and sometimes theydo say no, but almost always say53200:35:23.550 --> 00:35:28.869they shrug and say okay, andthen I feel like that is the first53300:35:29.030 --> 00:35:34.389for me, kind of the firstestablishing I'm going to be respectful of you.53400:35:34.989 --> 00:35:37.539But, like I said, aCAM backfire. When they say no,53500:35:37.179 --> 00:35:40.099I stop, but I will callafter them. Hey, I've got53600:35:40.179 --> 00:35:45.420information that could really, really changeyour your decision today. Please stop it.53700:35:45.539 --> 00:35:49.940Take my information. But then Iif they've told me I can't walk53800:35:50.010 --> 00:35:53.650with them, I won't. Yeah. So that's the danger and I guess53900:35:53.650 --> 00:35:57.610I kind of just play that byear. Sometimes kind of read. Yeah,54000:35:57.730 --> 00:36:00.210read the person and yeah, yeah, absolutely, you got to kind54100:36:00.210 --> 00:36:05.800of read the demeanor of people's facesif they feel if you can tell on54200:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.360their face they they feel intimidated.Yeah, that sort of thing. You54300:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.719want to kind of give them space. Yeah, because this kind of flight54400:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.639or fight situation can kick in.We certainly don't want them to fight us54500:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.349and we certainly, yeah, certainlydon't want them to fly away either.54600:36:19.349 --> 00:36:22.670Yeah, I Dono though. Gettinginformation of their hands as quick as possible54700:36:22.789 --> 00:36:27.429is important. So if they're drivinga car and they stop, I would54800:36:27.429 --> 00:36:30.869give the information right away and thenkind of get into the oneonone engagements and,54900:36:30.989 --> 00:36:35.579yeah, talking to them. Ifthey're walking up, Yay, I55000:36:35.659 --> 00:36:37.699have something for you. Get theinformation to them. They might grab that55100:36:37.820 --> 00:36:42.059information not knowing what it is andthen they find out quickly. You know,55200:36:42.099 --> 00:36:44.340you one of those pro life peopleand they keep walking. Yeah,55300:36:44.619 --> 00:36:46.409they at least got the information intheir hands. I some people try to55400:36:46.449 --> 00:36:50.050hand it back to you and I'lljust say no, you need that,55500:36:50.489 --> 00:36:53.489I won't take it back for me, they would have to throw it on55600:36:53.570 --> 00:36:55.610the ground before I'm going to takeit back. At that point, once55700:36:55.650 --> 00:37:00.090they have it, it's there's good, and so that's that's a good that's55800:37:00.130 --> 00:37:02.119a good suggestion. I usually feellike, okay, I'll take it back,55900:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.280but but you don't. Okay,I don't know. Okay, I'll56000:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.400let them, let them hang onto it. Yeah, I make them56100:37:07.440 --> 00:37:08.840feel guilty if they're going to throwit on the ground. By the way,56200:37:09.159 --> 00:37:13.760this is a total kind of nonsecquitter, but it happened today, and56300:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.070this, what you just shared,made me think of it. If someone56400:37:16.349 --> 00:37:21.789is coming to the abortion center,this was someone driving and the first thing56500:37:21.829 --> 00:37:24.190I did was what you said.Got The information in their hands and I56600:37:24.269 --> 00:37:28.070said, are you headed to thewomen's center? And she said Yeah,56700:37:28.070 --> 00:37:30.300we're is it? Don't tell themwhere it is. Yeah, don't tell56800:37:30.340 --> 00:37:32.780them where it is. I knowI've dealt with that several times. I56900:37:32.860 --> 00:37:37.059had one lady begging me, yeah, to point her to where the abortion57000:37:37.139 --> 00:37:39.340center was. He actually stopped upthe road a little ways. Yeah,57100:37:39.539 --> 00:37:45.610and I mean there was all thesepro borts with signs with arrows that say57200:37:45.730 --> 00:37:49.769clinic parking, there's all these police, there's like bearcases on a Saturday.57300:37:49.809 --> 00:37:53.130Yeah, and like where at theLord was blinding her eyes or something about.57400:37:53.130 --> 00:37:57.250Certainly wouldn't going to be the thethat person that points her to the57500:37:57.409 --> 00:38:00.159that's right portion center. I thatdid it very gracious. They didn't say57600:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.000I'm going to tell you were killyour baby. Didn't say that right,57700:38:02.119 --> 00:38:05.360but I told her it. Listen, understand, you want to go to57800:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.559the abortion center and I'm here tooffer you help so that you don't go57900:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.960in there. Yeah, but Icannot in good conscience point you into the58000:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.710place that's going to kill your child. Right, beautiful. Yeah, and58100:38:14.869 --> 00:38:17.230so she got kind of frustrated.Yeah, and again, graciously, I'm58200:38:17.230 --> 00:38:21.590not just trying to be I'm nottrying to be mean and I'm not trying58300:38:21.590 --> 00:38:25.110to withhold information, but I can'tdo it. It's can't point you into58400:38:25.150 --> 00:38:29.179the abortion center and by telling thetruth of why you couldn't do it,58500:38:29.420 --> 00:38:32.780you have already started the conversation backto God. Yeah, and to the58600:38:32.820 --> 00:38:38.579value of that child and to asomeone who is standing by some very strong58700:38:38.699 --> 00:38:43.769moral convictions. All of that wascommunicated by saying that. So we would58800:38:43.929 --> 00:38:46.809never say lie, you would neversay tell them the wrong directions or anything58900:38:46.849 --> 00:38:50.769like that, because that would notbe honoring to God. But I just59000:38:50.929 --> 00:38:53.849wanted to throw that out because alot of our new counselors will face that59100:38:53.969 --> 00:38:57.400and I've seen some of them justsay, oh well, it's right there,59200:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.239like an don't don't tell them whereit is. You don't need to59300:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.119help them kill their baby. Butit gives you an opportunity then to either59400:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.679do what you did or give themyour agenda, which is, let me59500:39:08.719 --> 00:39:12.550give you information and let me tellyou why I'm here. Yeah, now59600:39:12.670 --> 00:39:15.349we'll say that I have done itbefore, like I have pointed women to59700:39:15.429 --> 00:39:22.349the abortion center unknowingly, like Iremember a situation in which stupid funny.59800:39:22.469 --> 00:39:28.179Now, not funny, kind oflike ironic. Yeah, we're she's asking59900:39:28.179 --> 00:39:30.739where the abortion center is at.I'm not going to point you into the60000:39:30.780 --> 00:39:34.059abortion center. I like point withmy fingers as a point toward the abortion60100:39:34.099 --> 00:39:37.500center, like a big dummy,and it indicated her right where it was60200:39:37.539 --> 00:39:40.010at. Okay, so I havebecause I'm a talk with your hands kind60300:39:40.010 --> 00:39:43.289of guy. Right, if youguys could see right now, I'm talking60400:39:43.369 --> 00:39:46.449with my hand all around. It'sjust how I roll. Yeah, and60500:39:46.610 --> 00:39:52.039so has as a natural reaction.If I'm thinking about a particular the location,60600:39:52.559 --> 00:39:57.159I'll point in that direction. Yeah, and so, like keep my60700:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.800hands in my pocket and even youreyes, don't flick your eyes. Yeah,60800:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.480fortunes for that young lady, though. Man. Okay, God must60900:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.590be blinding her highest. Yeah,it can't get more obvious. There's signs61000:40:07.670 --> 00:40:12.710with arrows pointing you there and everypassed by the yeah, the place like61100:40:12.869 --> 00:40:16.389twice. Yeah, it's amazing.So God blinded her eyes. I'm not61200:40:16.469 --> 00:40:19.829going to be wanted the one toopen them. That's right. Yeah.61300:40:20.030 --> 00:40:23.860Yeah. So are there things thatwe that we've talked a lot about things61400:40:23.940 --> 00:40:28.019to do? Yeah. Are therethings that we shouldn't do? That would61500:40:28.420 --> 00:40:30.539not be good? Yeah, Ithink we have that. Touched on a61600:40:30.579 --> 00:40:34.460few of these and these principles apply, some of these at least, to61700:40:34.900 --> 00:40:38.010whether we're calling out that we're ina one on one conversation or offering literature,61800:40:38.010 --> 00:40:40.889any of the scenarios and which werecommunicating to a mom going into the61900:40:40.889 --> 00:40:45.610abortion center. But I think numberone that you have here on the list62000:40:45.650 --> 00:40:47.969at least, and I agree it'sprobably on the top of the list at62100:40:47.969 --> 00:40:52.559least, as don't be frantic,don't be just it's hard, but we62200:40:52.639 --> 00:40:54.719want to be confident. We don'twant to be conveying to a woman going62300:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.079into the abortion center the same stuffshe's feeling in our heart, this frantic,62400:40:59.239 --> 00:41:04.280chaotic demeanor. Right, or makesure that we got it together now.62500:41:04.349 --> 00:41:07.110We need that we get it togetherby the grace of God. Right.62600:41:07.150 --> 00:41:12.269Yeah. Another thing you have hereis don't be angry or condemning.62700:41:13.550 --> 00:41:15.150You know, I think if weout of the gate, let's say,62800:41:15.469 --> 00:41:19.539we do all the things that Ijust describe to you, with literature in62900:41:19.619 --> 00:41:22.099our hands, vehicles coming down theroad, we have our hand up and63000:41:22.139 --> 00:41:25.659to stop motion. They stop andtake our information and right away we handle63100:41:25.739 --> 00:41:30.139the informations. They don't go killyour baby. That can be a non63200:41:30.460 --> 00:41:34.730nonstarter to the conversation. Right.I think we really need to be thinking63300:41:34.769 --> 00:41:38.530along the lines of relationship building.We want to gain their trust, right.63400:41:38.690 --> 00:41:43.769The abortion center has done that,the devil has done that, gained63500:41:43.889 --> 00:41:47.559their trust. Yeah, we wantthem to convey that trust from the abortion63600:41:47.679 --> 00:41:51.679center and from the lives of thedevil to us. Yeah, and part63700:41:51.719 --> 00:41:53.599of the way that we do thatas our demeanor, the look on our63800:41:53.679 --> 00:41:58.480face, the fact that we're kind, the fact that we're all ways.63900:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.110Yeah, the things that we say. We want to be speaking the truth,64000:42:01.269 --> 00:42:04.989but we want to be speaking itin the love and an approachable way,64100:42:05.309 --> 00:42:07.469in a way that keeps them engagein the conversation. Yeah, but64200:42:07.510 --> 00:42:10.789if we ride away, get todon't go in there and murder your child.64300:42:12.190 --> 00:42:15.469Yeah, it can be a nonstarterto a conversation. Right. Yeah,64400:42:15.940 --> 00:42:20.380there's always the tension of you doneed to speak truth. Yeah,64500:42:21.300 --> 00:42:23.579but when do you speak it?Run, and how forcibly do you speak64600:42:23.619 --> 00:42:29.500it? And is there can youspeak it in a way that is less64700:42:29.579 --> 00:42:34.210confront of? Yeah, initially.Yeah, and you have here along those64800:42:34.250 --> 00:42:38.130lines. Don't be too aggressive.Yeah, we want to be approachable and64900:42:38.690 --> 00:42:43.489when they actually do approach us,we want to be conversational, want to65000:42:43.489 --> 00:42:46.480be relatable so that they continue totalk to us. Yeah, you have65100:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.639here. Don't clump up in groupsso when you're trying to offer information,65200:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.400and this is this is hard.We fight against this constantly because out there65300:42:54.400 --> 00:42:57.800on the side of what we loveeach other. When there's kind of a65400:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.230law in the traffic coming into theabortion center, we gravitate toward each other.65500:43:00.269 --> 00:43:04.030We want to talk and encourage eachother and we talked about scripture,65600:43:04.110 --> 00:43:06.710we talked about the podcast, allthese other things. Right, and we65700:43:06.829 --> 00:43:10.190contend to clump up the driveway wherepeople would typically stop and take information.65800:43:12.190 --> 00:43:15.380You got to think again. Inthe mindset of a young mother going into65900:43:15.380 --> 00:43:19.059the abortion center who scared, it'sgoing to be hard for her to stop66000:43:19.139 --> 00:43:22.420for just one person standing there bythemselves. Right, but if you've got66100:43:22.420 --> 00:43:25.219a group of four or five peoplestanding there together, she ain't going to66200:43:25.300 --> 00:43:28.489stop. That's right. I meanwe've had some that do, but for66300:43:28.570 --> 00:43:30.690the most part they're going to keepgoing in. They're not going to stop66400:43:30.730 --> 00:43:34.769and taking information because it's intimidating.There is a whole group of people and66500:43:34.849 --> 00:43:37.329they're trying to hide their sin,they're trying to, you, hide themselves.66600:43:37.610 --> 00:43:42.159They're just going into this abortion centerhoping they can get do their thing66700:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.239and going with their life. Theydon't want a bunch of people talking to66800:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.159them and, you know, gettingin their business. Yeah, but they66900:43:47.199 --> 00:43:52.079might allow one person, right,and and more than one person adds to67000:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.550that already franticness. Yeah, ofwhat they're feeling. If you've got several67100:43:55.590 --> 00:44:00.590people approaching, several people offering thesame thing, several people talking to you,67200:44:00.710 --> 00:44:04.110it just becomes chaotic and frantic.Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so67300:44:04.110 --> 00:44:06.670I be thinking about that. Asfar as where you position people. I67400:44:06.789 --> 00:44:10.460know, just kind of a tipfor people that are putting together sidewalk teams67500:44:10.500 --> 00:44:15.179and you're thinking through some of thepractical stuff and putting together sidewalk team.67600:44:15.900 --> 00:44:21.019Is Thinking about what I talked aboutearlier priority positions. So as I look67700:44:21.179 --> 00:44:24.090at, and this is what Ido, look at a Google map of67800:44:24.210 --> 00:44:29.329the abortion center, kind of anoverview of it, the sidewalk in front,67900:44:29.369 --> 00:44:31.530of the public area in front,I look, okay, where's the68000:44:31.530 --> 00:44:37.050driveway? Yet that's priority position numberone. Where would they call out from68100:44:37.210 --> 00:44:39.360to the people walking into the abortioncenter? That would typically be priority position68200:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.800number two, and they would bethinking from there and building these positions for68300:44:43.960 --> 00:44:47.039people to stand in, because againstpeople purpose, the driveway person, they68400:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.440stand there with purpose that they're goingto hand out information. The person calling68500:44:51.480 --> 00:44:53.710out to women going into the abortioncenter, that person has that position.68600:44:53.750 --> 00:44:58.670They take ownership of that position andit keeps them separated to they're they don't68700:44:58.710 --> 00:45:01.590clump up at the driveway. You'reat one particular area, but you have68800:45:01.710 --> 00:45:06.510them spread out, because it isimportant to be spread out, as spread68900:45:06.510 --> 00:45:09.619out as possible so we don't looklike this big intimidating group of people right69000:45:09.659 --> 00:45:13.579there in front of the abortions.Right and the same as honestly true,69100:45:13.579 --> 00:45:16.539if a woman decides to leave theporch or leave the abortion center and approach69200:45:16.659 --> 00:45:22.289one of the people on the sidewalk, the tendency is for every sidewalk counselor69300:45:22.409 --> 00:45:25.130to go zipping over because they allwant to be a part of it,69400:45:25.170 --> 00:45:30.650and I understand that you're just sooverjoyed and that's what you've been waiting all69500:45:30.730 --> 00:45:34.489morning for us to see someone actuallywant to talk to us. But it's69600:45:34.570 --> 00:45:39.000best really in most cases to justlet that person she for whatever reason,69700:45:39.159 --> 00:45:43.960chose to come talk to and letthem alone with her. Yeah, to69800:45:44.039 --> 00:45:49.039build that very tenuous relationship. Yeah, absolutely. I will say as kind69900:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.949of a side note, because someof you guys that are listening maybe thanking70000:45:52.989 --> 00:45:55.670maybe your missionaries with love life oryou've been to a love life prayer Walker70100:45:55.789 --> 00:45:59.309whatever, and you're thinking, okay, you're talking about not having big,70200:45:59.750 --> 00:46:04.070intimidating groups of people in front ofthe abortion center. Yeah, and you70300:46:04.190 --> 00:46:07.380guys do prayer walks where you havea big intimidate agree. That's a good70400:46:07.460 --> 00:46:10.099point. Yeah. Yeah, well, we're intentional with our prayer walks when70500:46:10.139 --> 00:46:15.739we're able to to do those acrossthe street from the abortion center, to70600:46:15.820 --> 00:46:20.170do those away from the areas whereengagement would take place, and we have70700:46:20.530 --> 00:46:22.849like just last Saturday we had agroup of I think was a hundred,70800:46:22.929 --> 00:46:27.489fifty prayer walkers on property that weown next to the abortion center. But70900:46:28.050 --> 00:46:30.409we've not always own property. We'vehad more than that of the street that71000:46:30.570 --> 00:46:35.800walk down and come and pray infront of the abortion center. Yet they71100:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.239do it across the street and westill have engagement with people. We still71200:46:38.280 --> 00:46:42.920have people to come and over andnew abortion minded women come and talk with71300:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.840us, stop and take information.The way that we position ourselves and way71400:46:45.880 --> 00:46:50.590we position the prayer walks is veryintentional. Yeah, and so we kind71500:46:50.630 --> 00:46:55.750of get those big intimidating groups awayfrom the areas of engagement. We do71600:46:55.909 --> 00:47:01.820that intentionally. Yeah, and theysign a non engagement whatever contract or whatever71700:47:01.940 --> 00:47:05.940with love life, saying they wereGod there. It's verbal, but they71800:47:06.059 --> 00:47:09.739know that they are not to thethe love life prayer marchers are not to71900:47:09.860 --> 00:47:14.380engage with right women. Yeah,so that it is not overwhelming. But72000:47:14.500 --> 00:47:16.929just so last Saturday you said wasyou know, you pointed out there was72100:47:16.969 --> 00:47:22.889like a hundred fifty people and Ihad three good conversations carside because I was72200:47:22.969 --> 00:47:27.369up the road away from everybody else. Yeah, and and three cars stopped72300:47:27.409 --> 00:47:30.960and we had lengthy conversations. Soeven when there is a large group,72400:47:31.000 --> 00:47:36.400if you position yourself strategically, youhave an opportunity to every one of them.72500:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.000Took literature. Yeah, and Iwas able to speak with every one72600:47:38.039 --> 00:47:42.599of them. Yeah, absolutely,and we're very intentional and trying to train72700:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.710our missionaries, as they're doing prayerwalks and that sort of thing, to72800:47:46.269 --> 00:47:51.550position their prayer walk away from theair of engagement at the abortion center,72900:47:51.789 --> 00:47:55.150typically within view of the abortion center, right, but in the best way73000:47:55.230 --> 00:48:00.699we can to be as unintimidating asboss man. Again, the prayer walkers73100:48:00.699 --> 00:48:02.219are not there to engage at it. They're just a prey. Yeah,73200:48:02.300 --> 00:48:06.699and as a sidewall counsel myself,as I'm there in front of the abortion73300:48:06.820 --> 00:48:10.340center and the prayer walkers are acrossthe street, I will often times point73400:48:10.380 --> 00:48:13.929to them and say there's a groupof a hundred and fifty people, or73500:48:13.969 --> 00:48:16.210how many ever, over there thatare praying for you. Yeah, and73600:48:16.329 --> 00:48:21.130we've had women they've chosen life becausethey saw that group of people that were73700:48:21.170 --> 00:48:23.170there praying for them. They're sotouched and they were touched by that.73800:48:23.210 --> 00:48:27.090Yeah, she's life for their baby. Yeah, so God, God uses73900:48:27.130 --> 00:48:29.920that. Just want to make sureyou a touch on that. Yeah,74000:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.159that might have a questions. Yes, that's concerned. Yeah, don't force74100:48:32.280 --> 00:48:37.360literature on them from it just whilewe definitely we've spent this whole podcast talking74200:48:37.360 --> 00:48:43.389about how valuable the literature is.But never force it if they truly just74300:48:43.789 --> 00:48:46.630do not want to take it fromyour hand, you know, or they74400:48:46.670 --> 00:48:50.389drive away and are they're rolling uptheir window. Don't fling it through the74500:48:50.429 --> 00:48:53.510window. That's illegal for one thingin most places. But if you just74600:48:53.670 --> 00:48:57.780force it on them, they're justgoing to rip it up there if they're74700:48:57.860 --> 00:49:01.260that adamant about not taking it.I never force, but sometimes, this74800:49:01.380 --> 00:49:06.739happened today a man who is inand out about six times and just gave74900:49:06.820 --> 00:49:12.849us some rather wonderful hand signals aboutit, about what he thought of our75000:49:12.929 --> 00:49:16.329presence. Yeah, every time untilthe last time he pulled over and reached75100:49:16.369 --> 00:49:20.650out his hand. Yeah, whereyou said persistence be that. Sometimes be75200:49:20.809 --> 00:49:24.079persistent. Don't think just because it'sbeen refused the first five times that the75300:49:24.239 --> 00:49:29.079six time won't be the magic number. But don't force sit but offer.75400:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.119Offering. It is still important,just don't yours. Absolutely. Yeah,75500:49:32.599 --> 00:49:38.510and like in those conversations or thosesituations where you're handing that literature to someone75600:49:38.550 --> 00:49:42.909walking up the sidewalk. They tellyou to back the F away from them,75700:49:42.989 --> 00:49:45.949right, do so, and doso, because typically it's not going75800:49:45.949 --> 00:49:49.750to be very good for you ifyou continue to invade their space, right,75900:49:49.829 --> 00:49:54.500like being being intentional about not invadingtheir space, being, you know,76000:49:54.739 --> 00:49:59.739just aware, yeah, that you'rebreaching boundaries already. Yeah, you76100:49:59.940 --> 00:50:01.139are. Say they're coming to it, you know, what they believed to76200:50:01.179 --> 00:50:06.619be a medical, quote, medicalprocedure, and and you're kind of stepping76300:50:06.619 --> 00:50:07.650in the way. You're like ahurdle on the way to that. Right,76400:50:07.769 --> 00:50:10.570there's already guilt and stuff going onin their minds, so understand that.76500:50:12.210 --> 00:50:15.369If they tell you to back away, back away and be aware of76600:50:15.409 --> 00:50:21.050the fact that, you know,you still need to be as unintimidating as76700:50:21.130 --> 00:50:23.079possible. Yeah, yeah, evenif they don't tell you to back with76800:50:23.320 --> 00:50:28.679that's that's right. And you havehere, which I really like. Don't76900:50:28.679 --> 00:50:30.639be late. Don't be late,man. That's one of my pet peeves.77000:50:31.000 --> 00:50:35.320You know, if you say you'regoing to show up somewhere, show77100:50:35.360 --> 00:50:38.670up on time. Yeah, butit's so critical at an abortion center is77200:50:38.710 --> 00:50:44.190yeah, yeah, yeah, ifyou can get there a little bit before77300:50:44.230 --> 00:50:47.389the doors open. Getting there whenthey open, I mean great, but77400:50:47.429 --> 00:50:50.579if you can be there just alittle bit before they open, I mean77500:50:50.659 --> 00:50:53.099some people in this day and ageyou're actually early for appointments, believe it77600:50:53.099 --> 00:50:57.179or not. Yeah, and youhave an opportunity before the doors are open77700:50:57.219 --> 00:50:59.500to talk with them. Yeah,and you can give them a reason to77800:50:59.579 --> 00:51:01.219come over and talk to you.Come and take your information. Hey,77900:51:01.260 --> 00:51:05.010the doors ain't even open yet.Come over and take this information. Just78000:51:05.170 --> 00:51:07.610read in your car. And we'vehad women come over or stop their car,78100:51:08.050 --> 00:51:10.849take information, read in their carwhile they're waiting on the doors do78200:51:12.050 --> 00:51:16.489yep. And also we strongly recommendthat no one ever be out all by78300:51:16.530 --> 00:51:22.280themselves alone. A minimum of twopeople for accountability, for protection, for78400:51:22.400 --> 00:51:28.800whatever, for moral support. Butso if you're late and one person is78500:51:28.920 --> 00:51:32.989showed up, they are hampered,they're they're putting themselves in a bit of78600:51:34.030 --> 00:51:37.150a dangerous situation. They were expectingto have two people there and that second78700:51:37.190 --> 00:51:40.510person isn't there. Yeah, soit's that is one of my little pet78800:51:40.590 --> 00:51:46.300peeps. I really am very it'srare for me to be late because my78900:51:46.659 --> 00:51:51.619mom always taught me if you're late, you're saying that your time is way79000:51:51.699 --> 00:51:53.940more valuable than the person that you'rewaiting for, whether or not that's or79100:51:54.019 --> 00:51:55.980that's waiting for you. Whether ornot that's true, I don't know,79200:51:57.059 --> 00:52:00.099but don't be late. Show upon time. Absolutely remember. This is79300:52:00.260 --> 00:52:02.090life and death. It is lifeand death. Yeah, mix thing.79400:52:02.250 --> 00:52:06.090You've got a few other things mentionedhere. You guys can read the article79500:52:06.250 --> 00:52:08.250to get all of this in,but I do want to mention this.79600:52:08.289 --> 00:52:14.570This to us is like so veryimportant. Yeah, and it's number eleven79700:52:14.610 --> 00:52:19.440are here on your list. Don'tforget contact name and number on the literature,79800:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.079right. Yeah, now, wedo encourage folks to get. We've79900:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.920learned the hard way heavy we shouldget google voice number, and it's so80000:52:27.039 --> 00:52:29.880easy. For All of you thatare, like me, very afraid of80100:52:29.960 --> 00:52:34.550technology, it is the easiest thingon earth to get a google voice number.80200:52:34.550 --> 00:52:37.630You just Google it, it talksyou through, it's super easy.80300:52:37.070 --> 00:52:42.190It connects right with your regular phone. But the beauty of the Google voice80400:52:42.190 --> 00:52:45.380number is they can't, no onecan, trace where you live, and80500:52:45.500 --> 00:52:47.219that's important. Yeah, absolutely.And then if you want to cut it80600:52:47.300 --> 00:52:51.579off, you can like write somepro boorts get a hold of your your80700:52:51.619 --> 00:52:53.420number. Yeah, I regular selfon the police when he said how'd they80800:52:53.460 --> 00:52:55.300get Ahold of it? Well,it's on the literature, and he just80900:52:55.380 --> 00:52:59.809looked at me and said stupid,stupid, stupid. Yeah, yeah,81000:53:00.010 --> 00:53:02.849okay, I learned some death threats, right, so be bright her,81100:53:02.929 --> 00:53:07.289because that was a little scary.Yeah, but get a google voice number,81200:53:07.289 --> 00:53:13.239yeah, or you could get maybesome cheap burner phone from Walmart or81300:53:13.320 --> 00:53:15.599something if you wanted a number onthat. If you wanted to do it81400:53:15.719 --> 00:53:17.679like that and just be your ministryphone, might be a good idea.81500:53:17.719 --> 00:53:21.800Yeah, but they're going to callyou. You put your number on the81600:53:21.880 --> 00:53:23.400literature, you're going to get calls, not only, of course, from81700:53:23.400 --> 00:53:27.349the people you don't want calls from, because you will get some of those.81800:53:27.429 --> 00:53:30.230I honestly, in nine years I'vehad very few of those, though,81900:53:30.989 --> 00:53:36.309but if a mom calls you,she's calling again. She's very vulnerable82000:53:36.469 --> 00:53:39.389and talking to her is so critical. So I always answer all those calls,82100:53:39.590 --> 00:53:43.059even if I know that some ofthem are going to be really nasty,82200:53:43.940 --> 00:53:46.380because it could save a life andit often has. Yeah, absolutely.82300:53:46.579 --> 00:53:49.659So. Yeah, we've had baby. No last name, by the82400:53:49.699 --> 00:53:52.659way. Don't put just to makethat when we put when you put your82500:53:52.699 --> 00:53:54.619name again, you don't want themto be able to trace to your home.82600:53:54.769 --> 00:53:58.610For what? There are some unsavorycharacters set up our shore centers.82700:53:58.929 --> 00:54:00.849So only a first name. Yeah, yeah, and, like I said,82800:54:00.889 --> 00:54:05.010this is very important to us becausethere are people that would just take82900:54:05.050 --> 00:54:07.369the information like is he, thatwon't talk, that won't tell us that83000:54:07.449 --> 00:54:10.960they chose life. Yeah, butthat we would ultimately be able to connect83100:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.199with some discipleship, Mentorship, sharethe gospel with them, all of those83200:54:15.239 --> 00:54:19.239things if they call us. Theycan't call us, though, if there's83300:54:19.239 --> 00:54:22.119not a number there. Hey,and I do think, because some people83400:54:22.159 --> 00:54:23.789ask, well, why don't youjust get like a stamp and stamp it83500:54:23.909 --> 00:54:27.269on there? Once you just haveit printed on there. You're going to83600:54:27.309 --> 00:54:30.710have a number, of personal numberand just get print. I think handwritten,83700:54:30.789 --> 00:54:34.869though, it is important because it'sa personal touch, right. It's83800:54:34.909 --> 00:54:38.019not just handing out some literature tosomebody, but it's a brochure with important83900:54:38.019 --> 00:54:43.460information with someone's personal contact number onthe back. And then again, just84000:54:43.539 --> 00:54:45.980thinking along these terms, obviously,if you're handed out Spanish literature, you84100:54:46.059 --> 00:54:50.099want to have somebody that can speakSpanish. So if you have somebody locally,84200:54:50.179 --> 00:54:52.780somebody in your church. We've gotfolks locally that let us put their84300:54:52.820 --> 00:54:54.690name and number on the back ofour brochures, on our Spanish brochures,84400:54:54.849 --> 00:54:59.250right, because again, people takethe information, maybe not talk, but84500:54:59.409 --> 00:55:02.449call us later. And we've hadwomen that have taken brochures that had a84600:55:02.489 --> 00:55:07.360friend that they got a brochure fromus. Their friend gave them your number84700:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.920from the brochure and you were ableto help them to get resources and choose84800:55:10.960 --> 00:55:15.039life and even be led to theLord. That's right. Yeah, so84900:55:16.239 --> 00:55:20.760we will wrap this podcast up.Yeah, hopefully it was encouragement to you85000:55:20.800 --> 00:55:24.590guys, a little training and justthis practical thing of handed out literature.85100:55:25.070 --> 00:55:30.309If you guys have any questions aboutout this mentioned, about some resources where85200:55:30.309 --> 00:55:32.309you can get it, get information, get literature and things like that to85300:55:32.469 --> 00:55:37.380pat to pass out. If youneed some clarity on that, certainly you85400:55:37.460 --> 00:55:39.380can reach out to me, Danielat Love Life Dot Org. You can85500:55:39.420 --> 00:55:43.179reach out to Vicky, Vicky atLove Life Dot Org. We love to85600:55:43.219 --> 00:55:45.900answer any questions that you have bestwe can. We're busy people these days,85700:55:46.380 --> 00:55:51.210but we like to respond when we'reable to. So please feel free85800:55:51.250 --> 00:55:53.849to reach out to us, pleaseshare this podcast, please reach out to85900:55:53.969 --> 00:55:58.969us with some suggestions for future podcast. We would love to hear some suggestions86000:55:59.010 --> 00:56:02.769that you have and and you know, do some more training along the lines86100:56:02.849 --> 00:56:07.480of stuff that you have questions about. If we can so with that,86200:56:07.000 --> 00:56:12.079we'll wrap this thing up and untilnext time. God bless, God bless.86300:56:15.199 --> 00:56:23.909Give me our love for love,give me our love for gratitude.86400:56:28.030 --> 00:56:37.739I know it will cost me mylife. Nothing's too precious in some you