Oct. 21, 2021

Should New Believers Minister on the Sidewalk?

Should New Believers Minister on the Sidewalk?

The testimony of a new believer is a powerful witness to the work of the Lord. However, there are some biblical principles as we consider plugging new Christians into ministry on the sidewalks at an abortion center. Join us as we share some of those...


The testimony of a new believer is a powerful witness to the work of the Lord. However, there are some biblical principles as we consider plugging new Christians into ministry on the sidewalks at an abortion center. Join us as we share some of those principles and some of our experiences in training up and leading new believers in this ministry.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:05.919 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. S and me, 2 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:11.509 Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the 3 00:00:11.589 --> 00:00:17.469 Gospel Center Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge 4 00:00:17.510 --> 00:00:21.070 you in pro life ministry, and always with a focus on the Gospel. 5 00:00:21.269 --> 00:00:32.179 Stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Me. 6 00:00:33.100 --> 00:00:36.729 Welcome back to the Gospel centered pro life podcast. We appreciate you, guys, 7 00:00:36.770 --> 00:00:40.210 joining us and, as always, would appreciate if you guys would share 8 00:00:40.210 --> 00:00:44.170 this podcast episode with others that you think it would be a blessing too, 9 00:00:44.810 --> 00:00:50.439 and also leave us a review on whatever podcast service that you use. We 10 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:53.799 want for others to see that these podcasts are a blessing, that they have 11 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:57.640 been a blessing to you, and if you leave a review, a positive 12 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:03.359 review of course, then others are likely to listen to the podcast and receive 13 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:07.430 the blessings that you have. Now we do have a bunch of reviews, 14 00:01:07.629 --> 00:01:12.870 especially on, I guess, Apple Podcast, and like eighteen hundred and something 15 00:01:12.950 --> 00:01:18.310 reviews. Got More reviews and I think any prolife podcast that's out there. 16 00:01:19.019 --> 00:01:23.739 Wow, yeah, yeah, the ones that I'll see at least, however, 17 00:01:23.900 --> 00:01:27.980 most perfect us are really, really bad, bad reviews. Not because 18 00:01:29.019 --> 00:01:32.299 this is a bad podcast, but because our pro abortion friends got a hold 19 00:01:32.340 --> 00:01:37.049 of it and I guess let tick Tock know that they should leave us a 20 00:01:37.090 --> 00:01:40.450 review and they left us all one star review. So if you want some 21 00:01:40.650 --> 00:01:44.129 entertainment, we did an episode about this a couple of months ago. We 22 00:01:44.290 --> 00:01:47.799 read through some of the reviews and just kind of laughed at some of the 23 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:51.959 the foolishness sits there, just to show the ridiculousness of the people that oppose 24 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:56.480 what we're doing. But if you want some entertainment, then go and read 25 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.040 those reviews. I mean, well, don't read them with your children. 26 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.629 Some of them are pretty nasty and Raunchy, but some of them are are 27 00:02:01.670 --> 00:02:09.030 pretty comical. But to combat that and to get us more than one point 28 00:02:09.030 --> 00:02:14.870 two stars as far as a rating, leave us a five star review if 29 00:02:14.909 --> 00:02:19.340 you would. If you hate what we're doing, then you don't leave us 30 00:02:19.379 --> 00:02:22.419 in a review. Actually, that would be that would be great that there 31 00:02:22.419 --> 00:02:25.099 are people that commented leaving a review. What One Star Review? The PRO 32 00:02:25.180 --> 00:02:30.569 abortion people. They said, I wish I could leave zero stars and you 33 00:02:30.650 --> 00:02:32.810 know, I hate to point out that actually you can by not leaving any 34 00:02:34.250 --> 00:02:38.650 stars. By not leaving any review, that's that. The Equals Zero Stars. 35 00:02:38.729 --> 00:02:42.689 But anyway, that's a little too advanced thinking for folks like that. 36 00:02:42.889 --> 00:02:46.639 Sometimes. Yeah, I considered a badge of honor, honestly, that we 37 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:51.400 have all those negative reviews from that position. Yeah, it's pretty funny actually. 38 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:53.520 But all that said, leave us a review, guys. We do 39 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.199 want this to be a blessing to other people. We do want to, 40 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:01.990 you know, let people know what we're doing and we have some experiences in 41 00:03:02.030 --> 00:03:07.870 the world of Sidewalk Ministry at abortion centers. It's kind of a unique angle, 42 00:03:07.990 --> 00:03:12.030 right, not, not very many people have an expertise, and maybe 43 00:03:12.150 --> 00:03:15.379 expertise is too strong a word, but not many people have an expertise in 44 00:03:15.460 --> 00:03:21.460 this area of ministry, Right. And so, basically, I think we've 45 00:03:21.500 --> 00:03:23.979 said in the past is we've screwed up and we want you to learn from 46 00:03:23.979 --> 00:03:28.810 our screw ups. We've made mistakes and we want you to learn from our 47 00:03:28.849 --> 00:03:34.610 mistakes. So we hope this episode will be in that same vein and just 48 00:03:34.770 --> 00:03:38.330 talk more about like we past two episodes we've talked about boldness, or at 49 00:03:38.330 --> 00:03:43.520 least you know. Last episode we had Jenna on WHO's one of our missionaries 50 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:47.840 there in rowing O, Virginia, Young Lady who is bold and really well. 51 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.199 It's God through her and she knows that God working through her. And 52 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:55.150 then the episode before that we talked about boldness. This episode, I guess 53 00:03:55.189 --> 00:04:00.590 it's going to be some similar things that we're going to talk about, but 54 00:04:00.710 --> 00:04:05.430 really we're going to talk about new believers, people that are brand new to 55 00:04:05.550 --> 00:04:13.340 Jesus and kind of, I guess, answer the question. Ask The question 56 00:04:13.419 --> 00:04:17.339 and maybe you guys can help answer it with us. How soon can a 57 00:04:17.459 --> 00:04:23.100 new believer be out on the sidewalk right? You know this is if you 58 00:04:23.220 --> 00:04:26.410 guys have been out there any length of time. You know, if you've 59 00:04:26.449 --> 00:04:30.170 lifted listen to this podcast any length of time, you know this is an 60 00:04:30.250 --> 00:04:36.490 intense ministry. You don't want to throw someone who is unequipped out on the 61 00:04:36.610 --> 00:04:41.160 front lines at an abortion center, kind of throwing them out to the wolves. 62 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:45.959 You want to make sure that that people who are out there are equipped 63 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:50.759 and by that same notion, Gosh, we need people right. We need 64 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:56.550 people out there on the sidewalk. There's seven hundred abortion centers that we've figured 65 00:04:56.629 --> 00:05:00.389 that a good number of those abortion centers. Maybe two thirds don't have a 66 00:05:00.550 --> 00:05:04.629 consistent Christian witness, and so we need people. And Listen, I think 67 00:05:04.670 --> 00:05:09.420 we'll get into some of this too. We've made promises to you guys. 68 00:05:09.420 --> 00:05:12.620 If you go out to the abortion center, babies will be saved, whether 69 00:05:12.660 --> 00:05:15.500 you find out about it or not, and you will grow spiritually in ways 70 00:05:15.500 --> 00:05:18.019 you would not otherwise grow. And so people that are new to the faith, 71 00:05:18.060 --> 00:05:21.170 they need to grow and we're saying this is a means for people to 72 00:05:21.250 --> 00:05:25.889 grow, and I believe that it is, and so we're going to talk 73 00:05:25.930 --> 00:05:29.250 about that. We're going to talk about is it appropriate for new believers to 74 00:05:29.329 --> 00:05:31.850 be out there on the sidewalk? Gosh, what are some things to be 75 00:05:31.930 --> 00:05:38.279 thinking about, to be considering if you're a leader on the sidewalk and you've 76 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:40.800 got some of this brand new to the faith that wants to come out there 77 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:43.800 and serve? What are some things to be aware of? What are some 78 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.639 things to be careful of? And so we're going to talk through all of 79 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:53.230 that. It's a unique subject, but a subject that we've faced and I 80 00:05:53.430 --> 00:05:57.189 think there's some biblical principles, but I'll just tell you this. There's no 81 00:05:57.350 --> 00:06:01.670 perfect answer to you know how long does someone need to be a believer before 82 00:06:01.709 --> 00:06:05.939 they can be out on the sidewalk and serve? Bible doesn't tell US exactly. 83 00:06:06.300 --> 00:06:11.379 Doesn't tell us a time frame for certain things, and that's why I 84 00:06:11.459 --> 00:06:14.259 think, more than anything, will encourage you guys to just look at some 85 00:06:14.339 --> 00:06:17.019 of the principles, some of the scriptures that we share, seek the Lord 86 00:06:17.139 --> 00:06:21.649 for wisdom and if you're leader in God, US put you in leadership. 87 00:06:23.970 --> 00:06:28.730 You know you have a charge to trust in the Lord, to seek his 88 00:06:28.930 --> 00:06:31.959 face and to proceed as you feel like the Lord is leading you. So 89 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:38.560 that's a little bit of just beginning to this subject for us. Yeah, 90 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.839 and and a corollary that we don't mention in the article that we're going to 91 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:46.560 put out but that I think all of you out on a sidewalk will face 92 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:50.350 this are the moms who choose life. oftentimes they will come to the Lord 93 00:06:51.550 --> 00:06:58.310 when they choose life for their baby, but sometimes they claim they were already 94 00:06:58.350 --> 00:07:02.420 a believer and had just been tempted to because of their fear or whatever, 95 00:07:02.980 --> 00:07:06.579 and many times they do want to come out on the sidewalk and speak and 96 00:07:06.980 --> 00:07:12.100 steer other moms not to do this, and I will say, I think 97 00:07:12.139 --> 00:07:15.769 there's a danger in that at the same time of you know, you don't 98 00:07:15.810 --> 00:07:19.649 want to say no to request like that either. So I think this will 99 00:07:19.649 --> 00:07:26.529 be a valuable podcast in in knowing what kind of there are safeguards that bit 100 00:07:26.769 --> 00:07:30.560 biblical safeguards you can you can be aware of and put out there when you've 101 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.839 got new believers out there or maybe a mom who is. Maybe she's not 102 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:39.160 a brand new believer, maybe she is, but she certainly is being thrown 103 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:43.199 into the lines denn going and in front of an abortion center, especially since 104 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.029 she was so recently there herself. Yeah, yeah, so, I mean, 105 00:07:46.069 --> 00:07:49.910 I think just to said the stage, what is our main concern with 106 00:07:50.310 --> 00:07:55.350 with any of this stuff? Right, what does our main concerns? Money, 107 00:07:55.350 --> 00:07:57.509 might ask. Well, they're a new believer and they want to serve. 108 00:07:58.620 --> 00:08:01.019 Why do we even have any reservations? Right, like, we want 109 00:08:01.060 --> 00:08:03.819 them to serve. We need people. They're people that we need. Their 110 00:08:03.899 --> 00:08:09.259 brand new they're excited, they have zeal. So why wouldn't we want them 111 00:08:09.300 --> 00:08:11.930 on the sidewalk? Well, right, I'll tell you this. The main 112 00:08:13.129 --> 00:08:16.610 concern, above all concerns, is we want to honor the Lord. We 113 00:08:16.730 --> 00:08:22.889 want our presence to be honorable to Jesus and, you know, simply put 114 00:08:22.970 --> 00:08:26.839 people that are brand new to the faith that maybe they're in the process of 115 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:33.559 sanctification, but maybe their tongue has not yet been sanctified, their mind is 116 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:39.759 not yet been renewed in the way that would be helpful to really to really 117 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:43.190 influence other people in a positive way. You know, I'll say thing. 118 00:08:43.870 --> 00:08:46.309 For example, brand new people, people that are brand new to the faith, 119 00:08:46.309 --> 00:08:54.710 might experience some opposition from a pro abortion person right and cuss them out. 120 00:08:54.629 --> 00:09:00.460 I think about that. Here's someone in a love life Tshirt, hope, 121 00:09:00.580 --> 00:09:05.940 is here cussing out a pro abortion person on Ticktock, viewed millions of 122 00:09:05.059 --> 00:09:09.649 times over. Does that honor the Lord? No, that doesn't honor the 123 00:09:09.690 --> 00:09:13.490 Lord. But I think we have to recognize to that there can be a 124 00:09:13.529 --> 00:09:18.970 tipping point in which someone who's seasoned in the Lord, in seasoned even in 125 00:09:18.049 --> 00:09:22.090 this ministry, that their buttons can be pushed in such a way where they 126 00:09:22.169 --> 00:09:26.440 could do that same things as certain certainly we recognize it. Anyone can get 127 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:31.360 in the flesh. But I will say just right away a new believer is 128 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:37.600 more inclined to that. A less inclined to be seeking the Lord in a 129 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.190 way that you know would bridle their tongue. Yeah, well, if you 130 00:09:41.269 --> 00:09:43.990 think about it as a new believers like a baby, you know, there 131 00:09:43.070 --> 00:09:48.230 are definitely situations an adult or a an older child can handle that that you 132 00:09:48.309 --> 00:09:52.710 would never subject a baby too. And these are new believers, are babies 133 00:09:52.830 --> 00:09:56.500 in the Lord. Yep, so there's zeal. Often Times, I know 134 00:09:56.659 --> 00:09:58.539 this was true of me. I think it's true of all of them. 135 00:09:58.620 --> 00:10:05.059 Are Zeal and excitement over this new birth in the Lord certainly exceeds our knowledge 136 00:10:05.340 --> 00:10:11.169 and our discern meant and our understanding. And so there is a danger where 137 00:10:11.529 --> 00:10:16.649 truth must be spoken, because truth is the you know, that's one of 138 00:10:16.730 --> 00:10:22.080 the the spirit virtual armor that we put on when we go into battle. 139 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.360 Truth is the you know, the Butler that goes downd our waste. Yeah, 140 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:31.519 and if we don't have that because we're new, we have some truth 141 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:39.429 as new believers, for sure, but our our knowledge is is not well 142 00:10:39.549 --> 00:10:45.870 developed yet. We are a baby in the Lord and if mistruth or flat 143 00:10:45.990 --> 00:10:52.139 out falsehood is spoken unwittingly by a new believer, it can do damage. 144 00:10:52.299 --> 00:10:58.299 This is life or death. It's happening out there on the sidewalk. So 145 00:10:58.500 --> 00:11:05.450 so we want to be really careful that the people that are associated with us 146 00:11:05.490 --> 00:11:11.769 or that are in a position to influence very vulnerable people who have a life 147 00:11:11.769 --> 00:11:18.679 or decision before before them, are honestly speaking as the Lord would have them 148 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.639 speak, not only from a not corrupt speech or an angry speech, but 149 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:28.039 from the position, a position of truth. Yeah, yeah, also, 150 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.600 I would say, for the sake of new believers. This is why, 151 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.549 again, we need to be careful, because for their own sake is they're 152 00:11:35.590 --> 00:11:39.870 growing in the Lord. Like you mentioned a baby. Right. I'm not 153 00:11:39.990 --> 00:11:43.870 going to put a sword in a baby's hand and tell him to go out 154 00:11:43.909 --> 00:11:48.460 into battle, right, not just because they're not going to be very effect 155 00:11:48.659 --> 00:11:52.500 of, but also they're going to get pummeled, they're going to get destroyed. 156 00:11:52.580 --> 00:11:56.059 Yeah, and I can tell you and now, I think different scenarios 157 00:11:56.460 --> 00:12:03.250 can lend themselves to different considerations. So, for example, in Charlotte, 158 00:12:03.850 --> 00:12:07.169 and it's gotten a little better from what I gather. Hadn't been there in 159 00:12:07.409 --> 00:12:11.049 a couple of months, but it seems like even as right before I left, 160 00:12:11.049 --> 00:12:13.970 it got a little better where the pro abortion opposition wasn't so so intense 161 00:12:15.450 --> 00:12:18.519 I mean there was a time in which we were out there on a Monday, 162 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:22.559 Tuesday, during the week. Really, Saturdays are terrible, but during 163 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.200 the week it was getting where these pro abortion people are following us around with 164 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.360 cow bells, ringing them in our ears as we're trying to call out to 165 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.909 the MOMS. They'd be yelling just obscenities and just terrible things. They were 166 00:12:31.990 --> 00:12:37.029 top of us and you know. So that scenario, I would say if 167 00:12:37.029 --> 00:12:41.269 you're a new believer, Nah, don't need to be out there unless year 168 00:12:41.830 --> 00:12:46.980 really really you've got some leadership. Myself for you or one of our team 169 00:12:48.019 --> 00:12:52.460 leads can really stay in really close to you really to protect you from what 170 00:12:52.620 --> 00:12:54.500 those pro abortion people want to do. is they want to they want to 171 00:12:54.539 --> 00:12:58.450 get you in the flesh, they want to get you kind of off the 172 00:12:58.529 --> 00:13:01.970 rails right, and so just kind of going back to my original point with 173 00:13:03.090 --> 00:13:07.090 this, for us as leaders we've got to consider of course we want to 174 00:13:07.129 --> 00:13:11.049 glorify Jesus. That's the main consideration. We want to make sure that you 175 00:13:11.169 --> 00:13:16.480 know we're not saying anything, or the people that are under our umbrella are 176 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:22.120 not saying things that might be kind of latched on to by an abortion minded 177 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:26.399 mom as a justification for abortion right. And then, thirdly, we want 178 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.870 to make sure, for the sake of this new believer that wants to serve, 179 00:13:30.549 --> 00:13:33.350 that we're not putting them out as sheep among wolves right, right now. 180 00:13:33.470 --> 00:13:35.909 At the end of the day, we've got to trust the Lord and 181 00:13:37.070 --> 00:13:41.980 we can never know everything perfectly and you know, I'll just say one of 182 00:13:41.059 --> 00:13:45.740 our experiences has been, and I think I've shared this on the podcast before, 183 00:13:46.299 --> 00:13:48.659 that we had a counselor who came out. This is the only time 184 00:13:48.740 --> 00:13:52.659 that I know that this has happened, but it maybe it has. Has 185 00:13:52.740 --> 00:13:56.570 Happened a couple of times. I'm not sure, but accounsel that came out 186 00:13:56.769 --> 00:14:03.929 with her sister initially, and she came out almost in self righteousness. She 187 00:14:03.090 --> 00:14:07.409 was raised in a in a cult pretty much, and came out with her 188 00:14:07.450 --> 00:14:11.879 sister, who was a believer who got converted, truly became a believer in 189 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:16.279 Jesus, just came out with her, but really out of self righteousness that 190 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.440 like I'm going to do something good for these babies or for these MOMS and 191 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.600 realize in the progression of things in which I didn't know. I mean, 192 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.190 she's she talked the talk and a lot of ways right. She carried herself 193 00:14:26.350 --> 00:14:30.830 well and, you know, didn't cause a lot of problems, her any 194 00:14:30.870 --> 00:14:33.429 problems. Really, she was real blessing. But as things progressed to three 195 00:14:33.509 --> 00:14:37.190 months into serving out there on the sidewalk, she realized that she wasn't even 196 00:14:37.230 --> 00:14:41.779 a Christian herself, that she never really came to a saving knowledge of Jesus. 197 00:14:43.460 --> 00:14:46.019 And it's because of exposure to the men history on the sidewalk and the 198 00:14:46.100 --> 00:14:50.700 Gospel, the True Gospel that she was not raised under, and other people 199 00:14:50.940 --> 00:14:56.529 discipling her. Ultimately she came to faith in Jesus right, and so that's 200 00:14:56.570 --> 00:15:01.850 kind of a weird scenario. And she didn't as soon as she realized she 201 00:15:01.929 --> 00:15:05.409 wasn't a Christian and finally did really come to faith in Jesus, she didn't 202 00:15:05.409 --> 00:15:09.240 stop coming out to the sidewalk because in a lot of ways she was already 203 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.919 seasoned, even had not been converted, already seasoned in the ministry and and 204 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.799 really had, even though she was raising a cult, I believe, a 205 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.549 lot of biblical truths and foundation sewn into her. She just was not a 206 00:15:22.950 --> 00:15:26.070 believer in Jesus. Yeah, so that's kind of a weird scenario. There's 207 00:15:26.070 --> 00:15:28.470 going to be things like that. We have to leave allowance for God to 208 00:15:28.549 --> 00:15:31.029 do whatever he wants to do. And and but as leaders, I'll go 209 00:15:31.110 --> 00:15:35.429 back to this, we want to make sure that we guard the integrity of 210 00:15:35.470 --> 00:15:39.299 the ministry for the sake of the name of Jesus and that those who are 211 00:15:39.340 --> 00:15:43.259 under us that we're doing right by them and not putting them out as sheep 212 00:15:43.299 --> 00:15:46.659 among wolves. Yeah, so that's it. That's kind of a good background 213 00:15:46.700 --> 00:15:50.490 on kind of the the positives and the negatives. Clearly we don't want to 214 00:15:50.570 --> 00:15:54.210 circumvent what God has planned, as he did with that young counselor where he 215 00:15:54.330 --> 00:16:00.129 ye, he really turned her life to him through sidewalk ministry. But let's 216 00:16:00.129 --> 00:16:04.080 look at at some of the verses maybe that that do guide us. And 217 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.720 there's a lot in Timothy, because Timothy was young, he was a new 218 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:15.960 believer. Yeah, and and the the Bible guides us in the first verse 219 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:19.990 that I looked at was in First Timothy Twelve. So I'll read that one 220 00:16:21.110 --> 00:16:26.629 to you that in general it's guiding. The Bible's guiding us that young new 221 00:16:26.710 --> 00:16:33.179 believers should not be intimidated in ministry just because they are young or you. 222 00:16:33.860 --> 00:16:37.379 So it says, let no one look down on your youthfulness. This is 223 00:16:37.740 --> 00:16:41.100 Paul, I think, talking to Timothy, Yep, that no one look 224 00:16:41.179 --> 00:16:45.580 down on your youthfulness, but rather, in speech, conduct, love, 225 00:16:47.059 --> 00:16:52.250 faith and purity, show yourself an example for those who believe. So I 226 00:16:52.289 --> 00:16:55.970 think there's kind of a couple of things going on in that verse. In 227 00:16:56.129 --> 00:17:00.769 one Paul is encouraging Timothy. Hey, don't let someone look down on you, 228 00:17:00.809 --> 00:17:04.799 don't be intimidated. But then he's also giving this list, not and 229 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:11.559 I'm sure not by accident, that there are things that can kind of guide 230 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:18.710 us in whether a new believer is far enough maybe in the faith, that 231 00:17:18.910 --> 00:17:25.670 their conduct would indicate maybe they are ready for some sort of ministry, and 232 00:17:25.789 --> 00:17:30.900 that that list again their speech, their conduct, their love, their faith 233 00:17:32.299 --> 00:17:38.619 and their purity. So my take, calm, maybe you have a different 234 00:17:38.740 --> 00:17:45.490 thought, Daniel, was that we should not automatically disqualify someone based on their 235 00:17:45.609 --> 00:17:55.329 youth or their newness in in the their walk with the Lord, but that 236 00:17:56.930 --> 00:18:00.160 they can actually even be a god, the example to others. But know 237 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:07.440 that list and as you're kind of vetting those, those young believers or these 238 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:14.150 new believers see how they stack up as best as you can. Yeah, 239 00:18:14.549 --> 00:18:18.029 yeah, and again we've got to trust the Lord and we can't know everything 240 00:18:18.069 --> 00:18:22.750 perfectly in our discernment is not perfect, right, but if you, if 241 00:18:22.750 --> 00:18:25.950 you've been walking with the Lord for long enough, you can kind of discern 242 00:18:26.069 --> 00:18:30.579 pretty quickly as you've been around someone, what their demeanor is through their speech 243 00:18:30.619 --> 00:18:34.859 and their conduct or right, and this is one of the reasons, not 244 00:18:36.059 --> 00:18:38.660 just for new believers but for just people interested in the ministry in general, 245 00:18:40.259 --> 00:18:44.410 that we do what we call shadowing. So someone wants to volunteer with us, 246 00:18:44.569 --> 00:18:48.529 we don't just train them and say come out right, but we actually 247 00:18:48.529 --> 00:18:52.769 have them shadow a team, a seasoned team that's been out there or seasoned 248 00:18:52.849 --> 00:18:56.960 counselors that have been out there and really that first time they come out in 249 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.160 shadow it's just to prey and observe. We won't them to really to see 250 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.880 the scenario, to see the ministry, to ask questions, and you can 251 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.480 tell pretty quickly as you're talking to someone. So normally how it works is, 252 00:19:10.230 --> 00:19:12.710 at least in Charlotte, will have a team that's functioning, US say 253 00:19:12.710 --> 00:19:17.549 our Monday team. Somebody wants to shadow, so Vicky will kind of take 254 00:19:17.630 --> 00:19:22.390 that person that shadowing and be right beside them basically the whole time, the 255 00:19:22.470 --> 00:19:26.500 whole two three hours they're out there, and be training them or just kind 256 00:19:26.539 --> 00:19:30.700 of giving them some general guidelines. Here's where you can stand, here's where 257 00:19:30.740 --> 00:19:33.660 you can't go. You can't walk across over there. That's the clinic property. 258 00:19:34.220 --> 00:19:37.339 Here's why that person is saying this, here's why that person is there 259 00:19:37.420 --> 00:19:41.650 handing out literature to just kind of explaining the lay of the land and then 260 00:19:42.650 --> 00:19:48.289 answering questions. So the question will be, do you have any questions, 261 00:19:48.329 --> 00:19:51.410 any concerns, anything that you see out here that you don't quite understand? 262 00:19:51.450 --> 00:19:56.599 And you can tell pretty quickly by the questions that people ask where they're at 263 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:00.720 in some things right, if they're mature enough in their thinking and in their 264 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:04.880 walk with the Lord to really handle the ministry and to be, you know, 265 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:11.029 helpful to the team that's out there. Yeah, and so based on 266 00:20:11.430 --> 00:20:18.309 that interaction and shadowing, and so we typically have them shadow two three times 267 00:20:18.349 --> 00:20:21.500 actually, just to kind of see where they're at, to get a feel 268 00:20:21.700 --> 00:20:25.660 for, you know, are they are they really somebody? That would be 269 00:20:25.700 --> 00:20:29.700 a blessing through the team out here also to give them an opportunity to see, 270 00:20:29.700 --> 00:20:32.460 hey, is this for me or maybe I'm not ready for this. 271 00:20:33.420 --> 00:20:37.529 And we've had people that have shadowed that have circled back around and said, 272 00:20:37.529 --> 00:20:40.529 I thought this was for me, but I don't think I'm ready for this. 273 00:20:40.609 --> 00:20:44.609 Yeah, and, and you know that's why we shadows. So that's 274 00:20:44.650 --> 00:20:49.920 good. We don't want to make the mistake of disqualifying someone that maybe really 275 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:55.960 is ready. They're not as ready as they will always be. Who of 276 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:59.839 us are. But but you know, a great example is we use this 277 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:10.390 so much David and as he's facing Goliath's taunts. Yeah, and and even 278 00:21:11.349 --> 00:21:15.990 the the army is saying, wait a minute, we're not sure if David 279 00:21:17.150 --> 00:21:23.579 is ready. And but the Philistines look that that verse and for Samuel Seventeen 280 00:21:23.819 --> 00:21:27.059 Forty, forty two is where it starts, and there's several, several verses. 281 00:21:27.099 --> 00:21:33.650 But when the Philistines looked and saw David, he disdained him. Okay, 282 00:21:33.650 --> 00:21:37.089 so they're talking about the Philistine Goliath. He disdained him for he was 283 00:21:37.289 --> 00:21:42.609 but a youth. And all of us can have that danger of just disqualifying 284 00:21:42.730 --> 00:21:47.359 someone just because they're young or because they're a new believer when indeed they are 285 00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:52.359 exactly who God has chosen to fight whatever that enemy or that battle, that 286 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:57.920 battle is. Yeah, so, so anyway. So that's just a caution 287 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:04.309 that youth can be definitely called by God. New Believers can be indeed called 288 00:22:04.390 --> 00:22:10.269 by God, and we want to be open to that possibility. Body sometimes 289 00:22:10.630 --> 00:22:14.710 they themselves don't recognize it. I didn't. No, I wasn't a new 290 00:22:14.990 --> 00:22:19.660 believer, but I definitely did not feel I was up to what the people 291 00:22:19.660 --> 00:22:23.460 on the sidewalk we're telling me I should be doing. When I was brand 292 00:22:23.539 --> 00:22:26.900 new, they appointed me a team lead and I said, wait a minute, 293 00:22:26.900 --> 00:22:30.089 I have no idea what I'm doing out here. Whether that was good 294 00:22:30.089 --> 00:22:33.450 or bad, I don't know, but I kind of disqualified myself, even 295 00:22:33.490 --> 00:22:38.650 though others who knew what it takes to be a sidewalk counselor we're saying no, 296 00:22:38.769 --> 00:22:44.640 you can do this. And I think a verse that talks about that 297 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:51.960 a little bit is in Jeremiah, the book of Jeremiah, when he challenges 298 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:57.990 God, presumably when because he's young and God is appointing him to go and 299 00:22:59.589 --> 00:23:06.910 speak to to turn a very disobedient, wicked nation back back to God, 300 00:23:07.390 --> 00:23:11.630 and as God is speaking to Jeremiah, the Lord said to me, do 301 00:23:11.869 --> 00:23:17.019 not say I am only a youth, for to all to whom I send 302 00:23:17.059 --> 00:23:22.579 you, you shall go, and whatever I command you you shall speak. 303 00:23:22.299 --> 00:23:26.890 So again here is Jeremiah saying, but wait, I'm too young, and 304 00:23:27.250 --> 00:23:32.170 God is saying, no, you're not. If I'm commanding you, if 305 00:23:32.210 --> 00:23:37.250 I'm sending you, then you go. Yep. So that's a guide for 306 00:23:38.170 --> 00:23:44.799 how now can maybe you've experience this where again, in all the zealous excitement 307 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:48.920 of a new believer, they'll say I know God has sent me here to 308 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:52.799 do this, when indeed sometimes I will think I'm not. I'm not sure 309 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:57.990 if that's really what God has indeed sent you to do. Yeah, yeah, 310 00:23:57.990 --> 00:24:03.990 I mean I think there's some ways for us as leaders to help discern 311 00:24:03.190 --> 00:24:07.309 that, and I think shadowing is one of those ways, getting someone who 312 00:24:07.309 --> 00:24:11.220 feels excited about getting involved or whatever to come out and shadow, to see 313 00:24:11.220 --> 00:24:18.099 what this thing is all about, and then being intentional on our part to 314 00:24:18.299 --> 00:24:21.180 guide them through and to help them to see. ME, one of the 315 00:24:21.539 --> 00:24:25.849 strong warnings that we give to anybody is that this is intense spiritual warfare. 316 00:24:26.009 --> 00:24:29.130 Be Ready. For it we go. We don't want to scare people off 317 00:24:29.289 --> 00:24:33.089 with that, but we certainly do want people to understand the totality what they're 318 00:24:33.089 --> 00:24:37.009 getting involved in, that being out on the sidewalk is not just being out 319 00:24:37.089 --> 00:24:41.960 on the sidewalk right. You're going to carry the spiritual warfare in the battle 320 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:45.880 back into your home, back into your family because, like we've said, 321 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:49.400 this is the devil's pride and joy. You're coming directly in opposition to the 322 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:53.349 Kingdom of darkness and you need to be ready for that now. I think 323 00:24:53.349 --> 00:24:57.630 we do say that in stress that again, not with the purpose of scaring 324 00:24:57.670 --> 00:25:02.670 people off, but hoping that people will take that at consideration and if they're 325 00:25:02.670 --> 00:25:07.779 not spiritually prepared that they'll get scared all in, at least seek the Lord 326 00:25:07.779 --> 00:25:11.059 a little more and come back around. I mean, we've had people who've 327 00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:12.740 wanted to volunteer. They came out, they understood, okay, this is 328 00:25:12.940 --> 00:25:17.380 too intense for me, they backed away for a while and then they came 329 00:25:17.420 --> 00:25:19.660 back around and said, I think I'm ready for this as they got into 330 00:25:19.700 --> 00:25:25.369 the word more, got more of the word into them and they were spiritually 331 00:25:25.490 --> 00:25:29.250 prepared for it. So I think it's more than anything about spiritual preparation and 332 00:25:29.970 --> 00:25:33.930 about applying wisdom to the situation, for the person who's going to be involved, 333 00:25:34.170 --> 00:25:38.359 the new believer or, you know, not seasoned believer, and for 334 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:44.759 the leaders too. So we have to be intentional about as people are coming 335 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.119 to us saying hey, I want to be trained, I want to be 336 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:51.549 out here, to really see if those folks are people that are going to 337 00:25:51.589 --> 00:25:53.029 be a blessing to the ministry and that the ministry is going to be a 338 00:25:53.069 --> 00:25:56.630 blessing to them, in light of how intense it is. Yeah, and 339 00:25:56.710 --> 00:26:00.349 I think so. I think kind of to summarize what you're saying is we 340 00:26:02.069 --> 00:26:06.380 should be cautious, very cautious with with new believers, because we understand the 341 00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:11.259 enemy, having been out there in a fierce battle ourselves for so many years. 342 00:26:11.420 --> 00:26:15.740 We Tru we know the the power of the enemy. There's a perfect 343 00:26:15.819 --> 00:26:22.849 verse that that discusses that again in First Peter, and that's first Peter Five, 344 00:26:22.210 --> 00:26:26.329 five to nine. So it's a few verses but really talks, I 345 00:26:26.410 --> 00:26:32.329 think, very directly to what you have just said. So well, likewise, 346 00:26:32.410 --> 00:26:37.839 you who are younger, be subject to the elders clothe yourselves all of 347 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.559 you with humility toward one another, for God to poses the proud and gives 348 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.960 rot grace to the humble. Humble yourselves, therefore under the mighty hand of 349 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.789 God, so that that at the proper time, he makes aught you, 350 00:26:48.950 --> 00:26:52.150 casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. Be Sober 351 00:26:52.230 --> 00:26:57.710 minded, be watchful. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a 352 00:26:57.869 --> 00:27:03.019 roaring lion seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, 353 00:27:03.140 --> 00:27:08.019 knowing that the same kinds of suffering your experience by Your Brotherhood throughout the world, 354 00:27:08.819 --> 00:27:17.130 so that that versus is warning these, these young believers, you need 355 00:27:17.250 --> 00:27:22.410 to be under the counsel of elders, of those who are firm and steadfast 356 00:27:22.490 --> 00:27:26.849 in the faith. And then goes on to explain why, exactly what you 357 00:27:26.970 --> 00:27:32.119 said. Your enemy is powerful. Yeah, and and you need to know 358 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:37.119 how to fight him. Yeah, and I'll say the point here's probably one 359 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.279 of the most important points, as you're discerning. Let's say you've got a 360 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.869 person who is a new believer and they're outshadowing you. Yeah, if you 361 00:27:45.990 --> 00:27:52.309 can discern that person's level of humility and submission to leadership, those two things 362 00:27:52.349 --> 00:27:56.869 are the most important. I would say, yeah, of what, whether 363 00:27:56.869 --> 00:28:00.619 or not that person is going to be a blessing or hindrance to the ministry. 364 00:28:00.660 --> 00:28:03.220 Yeah, that's one of the things that the Lord when you become a 365 00:28:03.339 --> 00:28:07.220 believer in Jesus, that's one of the things the Lord works on right away, 366 00:28:07.700 --> 00:28:12.890 is your pride. Pride is the downfall of so many right and pride 367 00:28:14.410 --> 00:28:17.930 for even new believers, and let will tell you, new believers, I 368 00:28:18.049 --> 00:28:22.130 know myself as a new believer when I came to faith in Jesus. I'm 369 00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:25.690 on fire, right, I want everybody to know about Jesus. Yeah, 370 00:28:26.730 --> 00:28:30.359 my pride often times, though, was a barrier for people knowing Jesus because 371 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.799 I thought like, in one sense, like I'm the only person in the 372 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:38.839 world that really knows Jesus because he saved me and he's doing that really that 373 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.829 warning, and I talked to you about this before we started the podcast, 374 00:28:42.509 --> 00:28:48.230 that Timothy, that that Paul gives the Timothy and First Timothy, chapter three. 375 00:28:48.869 --> 00:28:51.750 This is right before. That's that scripture that you're at before in verse 376 00:28:51.829 --> 00:28:56.859 six. The application is not a direct application. Paul's talking about overseers or 377 00:28:57.500 --> 00:29:02.539 elders in the church, but I think the principle is the same here, 378 00:29:03.019 --> 00:29:07.019 or at least is applicable, and it's talking about overseer. Must Manages on 379 00:29:07.099 --> 00:29:14.490 household well, keep his children under control with complete dignity. For someone who 380 00:29:14.529 --> 00:29:17.289 does not hold know how to manage his household, how can he care for 381 00:29:17.369 --> 00:29:21.369 the Church of God? So in it's kin that's talking about elders in the 382 00:29:21.450 --> 00:29:25.599 church. But I think this point in verse six is actually an important point. 383 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.119 It says he must not be. This is the person who's being considered 384 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.960 as an elder or considered for that position, must not be a recent convert. 385 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.950 Some versions say must not be a Novast, but must not be a 386 00:29:37.990 --> 00:29:42.869 recent convert, or he may becomes conceited and fall under the same condemnation as 387 00:29:44.069 --> 00:29:48.869 the devil. And so this warning is about putting people in leadership. And 388 00:29:48.950 --> 00:29:52.099 so I'll say in particular, guys, as you're leading in your city or 389 00:29:52.140 --> 00:29:57.019 leading a sidewalk ministry people that you we always encourage our teams to put someone 390 00:29:57.099 --> 00:30:00.700 in charge as a team lead, and so we have a team lead for 391 00:30:00.779 --> 00:30:03.099 a Monday team. We've kind of went through that with you guys. You 392 00:30:03.180 --> 00:30:08.450 guys know someone that leads that particular team for that particular time block, and 393 00:30:10.130 --> 00:30:14.089 I think this principle is very important there that when we put someone as a 394 00:30:14.210 --> 00:30:17.529 team lead, we need to make sure that person is not a recent convert. 395 00:30:17.569 --> 00:30:19.250 I would not put a recent convert, somebody's brand new to the faith, 396 00:30:19.289 --> 00:30:23.640 as a team lead. I would certainly consider having them on the sidewalk, 397 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:29.000 as long as they're humble and they listen and there they follow directions well, 398 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.400 they can be developed and they can crew really, really quickly and really 399 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:37.910 helpfully out there. But as far as putting them in a position of leadership, 400 00:30:37.349 --> 00:30:41.069 I want to make sure that you know they're not a recent convert. 401 00:30:41.069 --> 00:30:45.470 I want to make sure that they have let the Lord deal with their pride, 402 00:30:45.630 --> 00:30:51.380 they're humble and that you know, listen. The best leaders are people 403 00:30:51.460 --> 00:30:53.380 that know how to be led. Right, yes, a matter of fact, 404 00:30:53.420 --> 00:30:57.539 you can't be a leader unless you know how to be led. Yeah, 405 00:30:57.740 --> 00:31:02.140 and so your ability to listen to others and to be led by others 406 00:31:02.339 --> 00:31:04.009 really con dictate whether or not your you yourself, will be a leader. 407 00:31:06.490 --> 00:31:08.930 But it says here if they're a new believer, they might be become conceited 408 00:31:10.009 --> 00:31:12.529 and fall into the same condemnation of as the devil. What's The concern here? 409 00:31:12.930 --> 00:31:17.890 Well, if you put someone in charge who's a new believer, they're 410 00:31:17.930 --> 00:31:21.920 going to start thinking it's because there's something special about them. Oh, there 411 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:25.799 must be something special about me that puts me above and beyond anyone else because 412 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.279 I just came to faith in Jesus and yet here I am in a leadership 413 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.910 position. And so they start to think, like the devil, that they 414 00:31:33.109 --> 00:31:37.309 deserve to be exalted above others. Right, and it's not because of the 415 00:31:37.390 --> 00:31:40.710 grace of God, it's not because of the mercy of God, it's because 416 00:31:40.750 --> 00:31:44.750 of them. And that is the trap and that is how they become conceited 417 00:31:44.789 --> 00:31:51.940 in their head swells and and and they will not be good leaders. It'll 418 00:31:51.940 --> 00:31:55.619 be destructive for them and for the people that they're supposedly leading. Yeah, 419 00:31:55.700 --> 00:31:57.900 so that's a big caution for us. And and as you were talking, 420 00:31:59.019 --> 00:32:02.250 I was thinking about we have team leads, but there are other positions of 421 00:32:02.369 --> 00:32:08.289 responsibility that are not necessarily a leader but are very helpful for the team. 422 00:32:08.529 --> 00:32:12.450 Someone who maybe is going to set up for us, set up the sound 423 00:32:12.490 --> 00:32:16.759 system, things like that, and that that might be positions that a new 424 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:22.680 person, a new believer, could could take, because the advantage of being 425 00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:29.519 given responsibility as it tends to increase your commitment out there are so it can 426 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:35.910 damage you if you become prideful, but it can also help you in that 427 00:32:36.190 --> 00:32:40.349 you've become you have become a really important part of the team. All of 428 00:32:40.470 --> 00:32:45.460 the team members are important, but if you're doing a really necessary job that, 429 00:32:45.700 --> 00:32:47.779 frankly, most people don't love to do, it makes you, you 430 00:32:47.900 --> 00:32:53.259 know, really valuable. Yeah, and it's also a way to test someone's 431 00:32:54.019 --> 00:32:58.339 someone's ability to lead. Listen again, if you can't be led, then 432 00:32:58.380 --> 00:33:02.130 you can't lead. Yeah, and leaders are called to be servants anyway. 433 00:33:02.450 --> 00:33:06.410 And so if you can't serve in some of these basic ways, and you 434 00:33:06.529 --> 00:33:09.369 guys can get creative as you're building teams and as you're having people out there, 435 00:33:09.410 --> 00:33:13.920 there's things. I mean you can have someone we put stickers on the 436 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.480 back of our literature. We have a sticker that has all of the different 437 00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:22.680 pregnancy centers in the area on that sticker, and a way that someone new 438 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.069 can serve as slap stickers on the back of pamphlets. Right, set up 439 00:33:28.190 --> 00:33:30.589 signage, set up the sound system. Like you said, you can get 440 00:33:30.589 --> 00:33:36.549 creative and give them some responsibility and see how they respond to that responsibility and 441 00:33:36.670 --> 00:33:40.700 then maybe they will be ready for some kind of leadership position or to be 442 00:33:40.779 --> 00:33:45.619 kind of put on a team, maybe not leading, but at least put 443 00:33:45.700 --> 00:33:50.500 on the team to co lead with someone. We've done that before as well. 444 00:33:50.980 --> 00:33:54.930 Yeah, there's no within this particular scripture. Again, I don't believe 445 00:33:54.930 --> 00:33:59.970 there's direct application to this, because what Timothy are what Paul is talking to 446 00:34:00.009 --> 00:34:04.009 Timothy about, is establishing leaders within the church. So there's a lot of 447 00:34:04.170 --> 00:34:07.409 differences as far as leaders in the church, then there would be as far 448 00:34:07.449 --> 00:34:10.599 as leaders on the sidewalk, right. Yeah, but there's some similarities as 449 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.800 well. And it doesn't give us a time restraint. It doesn't say they 450 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.239 shouldn't be a new convert, they have to be saved more than six months 451 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.039 or six years or, you know, a decade. It doesn't say that. 452 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:27.909 It doesn't give us a time restraint. It doesn't give us a this 453 00:34:28.110 --> 00:34:32.309 person is ready after so many months or whatever. And to really I think 454 00:34:34.070 --> 00:34:39.500 it's really on us as leaders to seek the Lord, to apply Biblical wisdom 455 00:34:39.659 --> 00:34:44.739 in the Biblical criterias here and really I think again those two things are very 456 00:34:44.780 --> 00:34:50.260 important. The person's humility, willingness to receive correction and things like that and 457 00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:53.250 their ability to be led. One of the ways you can help discern that 458 00:34:53.289 --> 00:34:59.010 as well is if they're part of a local church. And listen, we 459 00:34:59.090 --> 00:35:01.130 don't let people volunteer under love life that that are not a part of a 460 00:35:01.210 --> 00:35:07.280 local church. So that's that's one helpful thing there. But being part of 461 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.960 a local church, you could actually reach out to their church, reach out 462 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:16.800 to their pastor ministry leader. Maybe there Sunday school teacher, whatever, whatever 463 00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:21.829 leadership. You can get ahold of their people that know them in that congregation 464 00:35:22.269 --> 00:35:24.989 and just ask Hey, is this person been faithful? Have they been of 465 00:35:25.070 --> 00:35:29.750 blessing your congregation? Can you tell me a little bit about them? And 466 00:35:29.909 --> 00:35:34.429 so you know, that's helpful as well. Yeah, in another verse, 467 00:35:34.550 --> 00:35:38.139 in in Second Timothy, or three verses, and second Timothy I think gives 468 00:35:38.179 --> 00:35:44.980 us some guidance about what to look for on the negative side of like you've 469 00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:47.860 been talking about. What are some things that that really would help you to 470 00:35:49.019 --> 00:35:54.929 know that they're really ready for at least some roll out on the sidewalk. 471 00:35:55.010 --> 00:36:00.889 But so second Timothy, Chapter Two, versus twenty two to twenty five and 472 00:36:00.929 --> 00:36:04.960 I think that gives us some warning some of the things of youth that are 473 00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:10.119 very common aspects of youth, of and by youth I mean children, but 474 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:15.639 also I'm thinking of believers as youth. They're young and in the faith, 475 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:22.750 so so that those verses say so flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, 476 00:36:22.869 --> 00:36:25.909 love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a 477 00:36:27.030 --> 00:36:32.820 pure heart. have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies. You know 478 00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:37.940 that they breed quarrels, and the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind 479 00:36:38.019 --> 00:36:44.219 to everyone, able to teach patiently, enduring evil, correcting his opponents with 480 00:36:44.380 --> 00:36:47.769 gentleness. God May hurt, perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of 481 00:36:47.769 --> 00:36:52.929 the truth. So youthful passions, you know, youth are known for being 482 00:36:52.929 --> 00:36:57.449 very passion at very emotional, which is great. We love it, we 483 00:36:57.650 --> 00:37:01.800 love that zeal and excitement, but it can be dangerous, those youthful passions, 484 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:08.679 because and then they go on to say foolish, ignorant controversies and that 485 00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:14.719 breach corals. So that's the flip side, bad side of of that passionate 486 00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:21.630 nature is it can quickly flip into being quarrelsome or fighting for what you believe 487 00:37:21.710 --> 00:37:25.389 in in a way that is not whensome and is actually damna chain, as 488 00:37:25.469 --> 00:37:30.500 she as she kind of stated early on when we started, when we started 489 00:37:30.619 --> 00:37:32.940 this. Yeah, I mean, simply put, it can manifest itself and 490 00:37:34.099 --> 00:37:37.820 just being out on the sidewalk and arguing with a pro board or arguing with 491 00:37:37.940 --> 00:37:42.900 the dad that's going into the abortion center. And you know, that shows 492 00:37:43.380 --> 00:37:45.809 some real immaturity if we will go back and forth like that. Yeah, 493 00:37:45.849 --> 00:37:49.489 and it list that it can happen to anyone. Again, anyone can get 494 00:37:49.530 --> 00:37:53.369 in the flesh. It's really how someone reacts when they're because we're going to 495 00:37:53.489 --> 00:37:57.289 address that right. If that happens, if we see someone, it's a 496 00:37:57.369 --> 00:38:00.360 new person or a seasoned person, going back and forth and yelling back and 497 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:05.199 forth with a pro bord or with, you know, someone at the abortion 498 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.599 center, we're going to address it right. We're going to walk up to 499 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.199 them and say, hey, how's not good, you might need to step, 500 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.869 you know, across the street a little bit and pray or something like 501 00:38:13.949 --> 00:38:17.030 that. How they receive that really determines whether or not this person can, 502 00:38:17.349 --> 00:38:20.869 you know, are they going to be able to move forward, or they 503 00:38:20.989 --> 00:38:23.829 just really out here or because what it balls down to you, or they 504 00:38:23.869 --> 00:38:30.139 out here for selfish means right, they out here with impure motives, or 505 00:38:30.139 --> 00:38:32.300 they out here just for themselves and make themselves feel good, or whatever it 506 00:38:32.380 --> 00:38:36.099 might be. And one of the things that I see right away if I 507 00:38:36.139 --> 00:38:39.460 go to correct someone, I do try to do it privately and I'm as 508 00:38:39.539 --> 00:38:44.969 gently and kindly as I possibly can. If I see a lot of self 509 00:38:45.050 --> 00:38:50.090 defense, if I see a lot of justifying, rationalizing or just trying to 510 00:38:50.809 --> 00:38:55.760 just selfdefense, a defensive posture, that worries me because again, that's not 511 00:38:55.880 --> 00:39:00.960 a humble accepting that they're truly could be an issue that they that they need 512 00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:07.079 to address. So so we've talked about a few verses we mentioned, as 513 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:08.519 we often have. So we don't, I don't think, need to go 514 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:14.590 further into the David and Goliath thing. But but in especially in that passage 515 00:39:14.630 --> 00:39:19.269 and in these other passages, we came up with some things that we think 516 00:39:19.630 --> 00:39:24.659 are dangers to be aware of in Ministry with new believers and some qualities to 517 00:39:24.739 --> 00:39:28.900 look for a new believers. We have this on the article that we're going 518 00:39:28.900 --> 00:39:34.420 to put out and I bullet pointed them. We and I think we may 519 00:39:34.420 --> 00:39:37.300 have mentioned all of them to some degree or another, but maybe I'll just 520 00:39:37.460 --> 00:39:44.170 summarize what what those are, starting with what the dangers are if you're if 521 00:39:44.250 --> 00:39:47.170 you're in a ministry as a new believer. These are the dangers that you 522 00:39:47.289 --> 00:39:52.559 need to watch out for. They can be easily influenced if not well grounded 523 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.719 in the faith. And and what I mean by that is the pro apoorts 524 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.039 can be very convincing. Yeah, and for someone who's not well grounded, 525 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:07.750 they could sway someone from a new faith to thinking maybe I'm wrong, that 526 00:40:07.949 --> 00:40:14.750 it can actually harm that new believers faith. Yeah, they can become prideful. 527 00:40:14.789 --> 00:40:19.670 We talked about that. They can under estimate the lure of evil. 528 00:40:20.269 --> 00:40:27.019 I think that is a common danger of youth. Youth feel invincible, right, 529 00:40:27.059 --> 00:40:29.820 I know you probably did. I know I did. Oh, I 530 00:40:29.980 --> 00:40:32.019 can drive anyway I want. I'm not going to do all the stupid things 531 00:40:32.059 --> 00:40:39.130 everyone else on earth does in a car. So the the enemy is very 532 00:40:39.250 --> 00:40:45.010 powerful and if you're a new believer, you you can under mess underestimate his 533 00:40:45.170 --> 00:40:51.760 power and therefore put yourself in danger. Yeah, improper understanding of the handling 534 00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.960 of the word of God, that God tells us that we are to be 535 00:40:55.159 --> 00:41:00.480 careful right in handling the word of God. And if you don't, you've 536 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.840 never done it, you haven't done it much. You can do it improperly 537 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:08.230 and actually damage Yep, the testimony. Twisting scripture, yeah, is a 538 00:41:08.309 --> 00:41:14.949 way. Just not being well grounded in the scriptures could twist some scriptures in 539 00:41:15.030 --> 00:41:17.550 certain ways that are not helpful to you or the people that you're trying to 540 00:41:17.579 --> 00:41:22.820 minister to. Right. Yeah, emotions again, we've touched on that many 541 00:41:22.860 --> 00:41:29.260 times. The emotions of youth are are often not really quite under full control 542 00:41:30.139 --> 00:41:34.289 and that can be dangerous out there. You can get yourself hurt and and 543 00:41:34.489 --> 00:41:42.809 your team members hurt if you antagonize the the and already really volatile situation and 544 00:41:43.369 --> 00:41:49.400 zeal that's not tempered with wisdom is is another hallmark of youth. Not through 545 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:53.119 their fault. Wisdom really truly does usually come through age. You're at least 546 00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:57.719 walking the you know, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, 547 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.670 but that's only the beginning of wisdom. I think walking with the Lord 548 00:42:00.909 --> 00:42:07.429 is how wisdom is is developed, and they just haven't had that experience yet. 549 00:42:07.469 --> 00:42:10.510 Yeah, is there anything else you can add in terms of dangers? 550 00:42:12.269 --> 00:42:14.949 No, I think those are all great. I think those are all biblical 551 00:42:15.309 --> 00:42:19.699 and considerations that we need to have as leaders. Okay, people that would 552 00:42:19.739 --> 00:42:22.340 be new believers coming along. Yeah, so some of the key qualities to 553 00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:24.900 look for. Again, we've touched on many of these. Involved in a 554 00:42:24.980 --> 00:42:28.300 local church. You mentioned that, Daniel. We have found that to be 555 00:42:28.380 --> 00:42:32.170 so incredibly important. Regular Study of the Bible. If you meet someone who 556 00:42:32.170 --> 00:42:37.250 doesn't new believer, who is not enthralled with the Bible, there's probably something 557 00:42:37.289 --> 00:42:43.170 wrong, because I know I voured the Bible more than even now when I 558 00:42:43.289 --> 00:42:45.599 was a brand new believer. I could not get enough of it. Yeah, 559 00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:52.199 submissive to parent are rents. I think that is an important thing that 560 00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:58.039 we didn't really outright discuss, but but I do think that submissive quality not 561 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:00.590 only to the church, you mentioned that, and to the people who are 562 00:43:00.630 --> 00:43:06.389 in charge, but to your own parents. If you've got a youth who 563 00:43:06.550 --> 00:43:10.829 is coralsome and fighting his parents and rebelling against his parents and then claiming that 564 00:43:12.070 --> 00:43:15.539 he loves the Lord and is you know, he knows clearly that God is 565 00:43:15.579 --> 00:43:21.219 directing him to do this, I would question. I would honestly have to 566 00:43:21.260 --> 00:43:24.460 conist. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, after all, if you can't honor 567 00:43:24.619 --> 00:43:28.130 your parents, who you can see, how can you honor God a you 568 00:43:28.210 --> 00:43:30.369 can't see? Yeah, that's kind of the principle in the fifth command on 569 00:43:30.610 --> 00:43:35.530 your father and your mother. Now there are situations. This is just kind 570 00:43:35.570 --> 00:43:38.969 of covey out here. There are situations that I've seen with new believers whose 571 00:43:39.010 --> 00:43:44.480 parents are not believers and there's obviously some contention there. But how they handle 572 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.719 that contention? Do they do they handle that in a respectful way, or 573 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:54.989 they just like almost spiritually rebellious, right? And are they handling the contention 574 00:43:55.030 --> 00:43:58.869 they have with their parents who are not believers in a way that honors the 575 00:43:58.989 --> 00:44:01.789 Lord? is their desire just to write their parents off or actually to bring 576 00:44:01.829 --> 00:44:07.710 them to the knowledge of the Lord through humility and Godly submission to their parents? 577 00:44:07.750 --> 00:44:10.739 Yeah, yeah, so humble and teachable. We mentioned that a few 578 00:44:10.780 --> 00:44:17.099 times. Responding to correction eagerly, without defensiveness. Eager is to explore the 579 00:44:17.340 --> 00:44:22.739 the Bible, a reliance and understanding of the work of the Holy Spirit, 580 00:44:22.860 --> 00:44:28.969 and I think that that does come more with experience, as you as you 581 00:44:29.090 --> 00:44:34.250 walk with God. Yeah, but if you think you're out there doing this 582 00:44:34.289 --> 00:44:38.039 all on your own power and not relying on on the Holy Spirit to guide 583 00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:43.880 you, then again that you won't last very long and that can be really 584 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:49.480 dangerous. So the the last kind of major thing to talk about that is 585 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:54.909 what's our responsibility as leaders when we have youth out there, young believers out 586 00:44:54.909 --> 00:45:00.309 there or literally young people? Yeah, yeah, I mean I think we 587 00:45:00.829 --> 00:45:06.590 throughout this whole podcasts of kind of conflated youth as far as like natural youth, 588 00:45:06.670 --> 00:45:10.900 young people with Youth in the Lord, and obviously those two things can 589 00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:16.179 go hand in hand. But you can have new believers who were fifty years 590 00:45:16.179 --> 00:45:19.940 old, somebody just came to faith in the Lord, thirty years old, 591 00:45:20.139 --> 00:45:23.409 sixty years here's old. But again, the principles, I think, are 592 00:45:23.449 --> 00:45:27.449 still the same, right, they're still now you're going to have with a 593 00:45:27.489 --> 00:45:30.809 sixty year old person that's come to the Lord. Likely they're going to have 594 00:45:30.929 --> 00:45:35.960 some life experiences and things that help wisdom to be applied very quickly, biblical 595 00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:40.000 wisdom they can kind of like apply almost in a retro sense, right, 596 00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:45.519 and they understand some things that people who are young don't understand just about life 597 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.510 and general but again, the principle still can apply that if someone's brand new 598 00:45:50.550 --> 00:45:52.949 to the Lord and they're in a position of leadership, they can get puffed 599 00:45:52.949 --> 00:45:54.989 up and then fall into the trap of the devil. Like it says, 600 00:45:55.030 --> 00:46:01.349 they're first Timothy Three. But as far as we're concerned, those who are 601 00:46:01.510 --> 00:46:05.579 looking at these new believers, people that want to volunteer, people that are 602 00:46:05.619 --> 00:46:08.739 coming out on the sidewalk, that want to get plugged into the ministry and 603 00:46:08.900 --> 00:46:14.900 some capacity. May I think, more than anything, we've got US seek 604 00:46:15.019 --> 00:46:17.099 the Lord, we've got to do our due diligence and when we see these 605 00:46:17.300 --> 00:46:22.050 things, the these key qualities that you talked about, and they're not going 606 00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:24.489 to be perfect, right, no one's perfect. We're not perfect, even 607 00:46:24.489 --> 00:46:27.889 as we've grown in the Lord and been walking with the Lord for, you 608 00:46:27.969 --> 00:46:31.880 know, twenty years or whatever. But yeah, you can see the beginning 609 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:36.519 stage of these things. Humility, teachability, all these other things. As 610 00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:40.599 leaders we can help develop these things. We need to help encourage those who 611 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.920 are serving under us or those who would serve under us in like reliance on 612 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.909 the Holy Spirit, and the way we can do that is sharing our own 613 00:46:50.030 --> 00:46:53.110 experiences right, sharing how we grew in the Lord in these certain areas. 614 00:46:54.389 --> 00:47:00.829 We need to help encourage these young believers that are wanting to serve to get 615 00:47:00.909 --> 00:47:05.780 in the word, even asking questions about when you're out there, they're shadowing 616 00:47:05.900 --> 00:47:08.099 you. Who asking the question? What do you think? What? What 617 00:47:08.219 --> 00:47:14.260 does the Bible say about life? Does the Bible teach that life begins at 618 00:47:14.300 --> 00:47:17.650 can inception? You? Can you think of any scriptures where the Bible talks 619 00:47:17.690 --> 00:47:22.889 about life in the womb, where he talks about the value of life in 620 00:47:23.010 --> 00:47:27.369 his word? And if they can't think of any scriptures, then point them 621 00:47:27.369 --> 00:47:30.960 out and say what consider this. You know, there's been even points where 622 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:38.000 new believers and seasoned believers have come out and have said things to the effect 623 00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:44.239 of like well, you know, I'm a totally against abortion, but in 624 00:47:44.349 --> 00:47:47.469 the case of rape, like I'm I don't have a big problem with it. 625 00:47:49.469 --> 00:47:52.710 And now really truth is they haven't thought that through consistently. Right, 626 00:47:52.829 --> 00:47:59.219 because we're against abortion because it's killing an innocent person. A baby who's a 627 00:47:59.260 --> 00:48:01.940 result of rape is an innocent person. You can help someone, you can 628 00:48:01.940 --> 00:48:07.219 kind of draw that out and get them to articulate their position and then show 629 00:48:07.260 --> 00:48:12.659 them biblically and logically how that's inconsistent, and we've had people change their minds 630 00:48:12.929 --> 00:48:16.849 in that particular instance. You don't want someone brand new that believes that, 631 00:48:17.010 --> 00:48:20.849 the believes it's okay in the situation of rape, to be out on the 632 00:48:20.929 --> 00:48:23.090 sidewalk. I mean you don't want anyone out there on the sidewalk that believes 633 00:48:23.130 --> 00:48:28.119 that, because you're going to have again, logically, inconsistencies. The PRO 634 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:31.719 abort people. They always put that out there right as rape is an exception. 635 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:36.800 It should be an exception, but it's really they're just trying to debit 636 00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:38.679 you, to show that your position is not firm. Right, because if 637 00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:43.389 you believe that abortion is okay in the situation of rape, your whole argument 638 00:48:43.429 --> 00:48:46.869 falls apart. Because we're out there not just because abortion is bad, route 639 00:48:46.869 --> 00:48:50.469 there because, yes, abortion is bad, because it kills it in as 640 00:48:50.469 --> 00:48:54.110 a person. All right, it's anyway. That's just one example of how 641 00:48:54.150 --> 00:48:59.980 a new believer can really get looped in and how we, as seasoned in 642 00:49:00.059 --> 00:49:02.340 this ministry, would also season believers, can help walk them through. And 643 00:49:02.460 --> 00:49:06.500 so you know, I know you've done this before, but when we've had 644 00:49:06.579 --> 00:49:09.090 people that are new on the sidewalk, will send them some articles to read 645 00:49:09.650 --> 00:49:15.409 and we'll say we'll consider this, consider this scripture, consider what the Bible 646 00:49:15.449 --> 00:49:17.690 says in this situation and then get feedback from them. So what did you 647 00:49:17.769 --> 00:49:22.289 think? And we've had people literally a hundred eighty degree turn. I didn't 648 00:49:22.409 --> 00:49:30.119 consider that absolutely was wrong. That shows humility, teachability and that person can 649 00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:35.519 ultimately, if they're teachable, if they're humble, they can serve and openly 650 00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:38.150 kiss me themselves. To be why we read and parks on the sidewalk in 651 00:49:38.230 --> 00:49:43.030 North Carolina so much, because I was not a new believer when I came 652 00:49:43.150 --> 00:49:45.750 to the sidebuck. But what Daniel is describing as what he did for me, 653 00:49:46.909 --> 00:49:52.190 I I'm going to get TIRI. I'd thinking about it because I thought 654 00:49:52.230 --> 00:49:55.099 I knew the Bible really well. I thought I had some pretty firm positions 655 00:49:55.179 --> 00:50:01.340 and understanding of the whole pro life arguments and everything. And Daniel did exactly 656 00:50:01.420 --> 00:50:06.059 what he just described. He would just, you know, sidle up to 657 00:50:06.139 --> 00:50:08.369 me and say, Hey, have you ever thought about any just go off 658 00:50:08.449 --> 00:50:15.130 into some theological disc gushion that directly related, though, with with what was 659 00:50:15.210 --> 00:50:21.480 going on there, and I learned so much and I looked so forward to 660 00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:25.199 being on the sidewalk. Isn't that weird? I couldn't wait because I knew 661 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:34.719 I am going to learn about God and how he works and how he works 662 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:40.710 through me out here, through Daniel helping so much to guide me. And, 663 00:50:42.429 --> 00:50:45.429 you know, in again using the analogy of a baby, which is 664 00:50:45.590 --> 00:50:50.579 what these new believers are. What do you do with a baby? You 665 00:50:50.619 --> 00:50:54.539 don't just like put the baby out on the street and and and have them 666 00:50:54.619 --> 00:50:59.340 grow up and do everything Huh on their own. You you never leave their 667 00:50:59.420 --> 00:51:05.289 side. You are there, that baby, right next to them, guiding 668 00:51:05.449 --> 00:51:09.530 my at first doing everything and then gradually, as that child grows, stepping 669 00:51:09.690 --> 00:51:15.610 back little by little, giving them more and more independence and as they grow. 670 00:51:16.369 --> 00:51:21.239 So that's it. That's really exactly. I think what we are called 671 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:24.400 to do is leaders, when we have young believers, new people out there, 672 00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:31.079 is remember that they are not ready to be independent yet and they may 673 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:36.070 have all kinds of promise, but like a new like a newborn baby, 674 00:51:36.150 --> 00:51:42.230 we're gonna stay right with them and and help them through each stage of their 675 00:51:42.309 --> 00:51:45.710 development out there. Yeah, that's good, you're going to make my head 676 00:51:45.789 --> 00:51:49.579 swell a little bit. Yeah, I know, don't get pride fuller. 677 00:51:50.219 --> 00:51:52.739 We lose you. I want to get puffed up, but you know, 678 00:51:52.820 --> 00:51:58.260 all I've done in that situation is to do what's been done for me, 679 00:51:58.900 --> 00:52:01.090 as others have helped develop me and help me to grow in certain areas. 680 00:52:01.130 --> 00:52:05.570 And listen, guys, that's what you can do. You can help develop 681 00:52:05.730 --> 00:52:10.170 new believers into very effective sidewall counselors ultimately to a very effective leaders themselves. 682 00:52:10.769 --> 00:52:14.929 But it takes, as we've talked about, some some intentionality. So one 683 00:52:14.929 --> 00:52:19.440 of the things that we've we've kind of, as a model, laid out, 684 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.599 is the I do, you watch, I do, you help? 685 00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:30.829 You Do? I help? You Do, I watch. So it's like, 686 00:52:31.070 --> 00:52:35.429 you know they're coming out, they're shadowing, they're watching us in action. 687 00:52:36.230 --> 00:52:39.590 Then next thing you know they're helping. You know they're standing next to 688 00:52:39.670 --> 00:52:43.590 Vicki and you know she's calling out and then she said, Hey, you 689 00:52:43.710 --> 00:52:47.139 call out now. You know. So they're helping and then they're doing and 690 00:52:47.260 --> 00:52:50.619 then Vicki's saying, you know, they're doing most of the talking. This 691 00:52:50.739 --> 00:52:53.340 is for people that are calling out, but they're looking over at vickuate. 692 00:52:53.420 --> 00:52:55.860 What else do I say? So she's helping them along, right. So 693 00:52:57.019 --> 00:53:00.210 that's the you do. I help, and then that you do, I 694 00:53:00.329 --> 00:53:04.329 watch. And so we're across the street at latrobe and we're watching the team. 695 00:53:04.409 --> 00:53:07.690 We're watching these new people that are developing grow and they're doing the stuff 696 00:53:07.849 --> 00:53:13.960 themselves. And so that's kind of that development model that we've kind of put 697 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.800 out there as far as a training model for sidewalk counselors, and you know, 698 00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:22.800 with that I think we'll wrap this thing up. We hope that with 699 00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:28.389 these podcasts. But what we're doing is helping to develop you guys, helping 700 00:53:28.469 --> 00:53:31.230 to grow you guys and your ability to grow other people. This is a 701 00:53:31.309 --> 00:53:36.869 multiplication thing, they say. The math of the Kingdom of God is multiplication. 702 00:53:37.550 --> 00:53:39.590 God's not just into addition, he's into multiplying, right. So we 703 00:53:39.670 --> 00:53:44.260 won't you guys to multiply yourselves, to see other people develop into leaders and 704 00:53:44.539 --> 00:53:47.780 develop other leaders and all of that so that ultimately these sidewalks are covered with 705 00:53:47.900 --> 00:53:52.820 season believers that know how to articulate what God says from his word, the 706 00:53:52.980 --> 00:53:55.690 Gospel, that know how to help these MOMS to get the help and the 707 00:53:55.730 --> 00:54:00.570 resources that they need. And you know, it does take time, it 708 00:54:00.690 --> 00:54:05.329 does take humility, and so we hope that these podcasts have been a blessing 709 00:54:05.449 --> 00:54:08.969 to you and you've taken time to listen to them and humility and and listen 710 00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:13.000 to some of the things that we've said. And in humility I will say 711 00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:15.559 we don't have it all figured out. So if you guys have other things 712 00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:19.840 you want to add to this conversation, things subjects and things like that, 713 00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:22.559 the you think that we should consider, then we are certainly open to that. 714 00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.349 So you can reach out to me, Daniel Love Life Dot Org, 715 00:54:25.989 --> 00:54:29.349 reach out to Vicky, Vicky at Love Life Dot Org, if you've got 716 00:54:29.389 --> 00:54:31.590 subjects you want us to cover. Or again, you've listened to a podcast 717 00:54:31.670 --> 00:54:35.150 in the in the past and you're like, what did you guys consider this? 718 00:54:35.230 --> 00:54:37.909 or I've learned this. Some of you guys that are listening you've been 719 00:54:37.909 --> 00:54:40.820 doing sidewalk ministry longer than we have and we would love to learn from you 720 00:54:40.860 --> 00:54:45.219 and maybe we'll have you on the podcast. We can certainly learn some stuff 721 00:54:45.260 --> 00:54:46.820 from you, and we've had others on the podcast in the past that have 722 00:54:46.900 --> 00:54:51.019 been doing this for a long time, because you know, we can learn 723 00:54:51.059 --> 00:54:53.010 from each other. So anyway, hope that's a blessing to you guys. 724 00:54:53.050 --> 00:54:57.730 Don't know, Vicky, you have anything else to say now, just you 725 00:54:58.250 --> 00:55:02.210 will all face this and and basically are our answer to the question should new 726 00:55:02.289 --> 00:55:07.130 believers be on the sidewalk is it depends. Yeah, you be a good 727 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.199 leader and you probably could have a brand new believer out there, but watch, 728 00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:13.719 On't watch him like a baby. Yeah, yeah, it's good. 729 00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.920 All right, I guess we're going to wrap this thing up. Hope it 730 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:19.239 was a blessing to you. Until next time. God, bless God, 731 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:30.789 bless you all. Give me our love for love. Give me our love 732 00:55:31.030 --> 00:55:44.460 for gratitude. I know it will cost me my love. Nothing's too precious 733 00:55:44.780 --> 00:55:45.099 in some you