Oct. 14, 2021

She’s Young But Reaches Out in Boldness

She’s Young But Reaches Out in Boldness

God is raising up people young and old to be a voice for the voiceless at the darkest places in our nation. One of our Love Life Missionaries Jena serves the Lord on the sidewalks and reaching out to churches in Virginia. In this episode, she shares...


God is raising up people young and old to be a voice for the voiceless at the darkest places in our nation. One of our Love Life Missionaries Jena serves the Lord on the sidewalks and reaching out to churches in Virginia. In this episode, she shares her testimony and what the Lord has used in her life to encourage and challenge her in serving Him in this difficult ministry. 

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:06.040 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. S and me, 2 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:11.630 Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the 3 00:00:11.669 --> 00:00:17.589 Gospel Center Pray Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge 4 00:00:17.629 --> 00:00:21.230 you in pray life ministry, and always with a focus on the Gospel. 5 00:00:21.429 --> 00:00:32.340 Stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Me, 6 00:00:32.539 --> 00:00:38.530 Lord. Welcome back to the Gospel centered pray life podcast. Appreciate you guys 7 00:00:38.570 --> 00:00:44.450 joining us and we'd appreciate if you guys would share this podcast episode. We 8 00:00:44.490 --> 00:00:48.009 would appreciate if you guys would just share this podcast in general with your friends, 9 00:00:48.130 --> 00:00:51.200 people that would be encouraged and blessed by this podcast. The focus of 10 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:56.560 this podcast is the Gospel. We want to bring the Gospel to places of 11 00:00:56.560 --> 00:01:00.600 darkness and in particular, and Pro Life Ministry, on the sidewalks at abortion 12 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.549 centers. That's the main focus of this podcast. We talked about other things 13 00:01:03.629 --> 00:01:07.790 from time to time, but really the focus is bringing the Gospel to the 14 00:01:07.909 --> 00:01:14.709 abortion centers where the Gospel is needed. And we just did an episode that 15 00:01:14.909 --> 00:01:19.500 came out well today. Because we record these things, we can in advance, 16 00:01:19.340 --> 00:01:23.659 but for you guys, it will be last Thursday. That was about 17 00:01:23.659 --> 00:01:27.340 boldness and I was blessed by it. Actually, just as we went through 18 00:01:27.340 --> 00:01:32.739 the different scriptures, Vicki, and as we just talked about how God, 19 00:01:32.930 --> 00:01:37.409 by his Holy Spirit, filled the apostles with boldness. Right, they spoke 20 00:01:37.450 --> 00:01:40.489 the word of God with boldness, and I hope it was a blessing for 21 00:01:40.569 --> 00:01:42.370 those of you who listened. I hope it wasn't a Blo I hope it 22 00:01:42.489 --> 00:01:47.840 was a blessing and encouragement to you that you can be bold, not because 23 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:49.319 of how great you are, but because of the one who's in you, 24 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:56.319 the Holy Spirit, and he can be bold through you. So please share 25 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.599 that episode and, as always, we encourage you to reach out and give 26 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:04.030 us some topics that you think would be a blessing, that maybe you have 27 00:02:04.150 --> 00:02:07.909 questions, things like that. We cover stuff like boldness, like how to 28 00:02:07.989 --> 00:02:10.310 be bold, how to operate in boldness. We also cover practical stuff, 29 00:02:12.030 --> 00:02:15.819 like what to do when an ambulance shows up at the abortion center. Like, 30 00:02:15.060 --> 00:02:20.340 who does a podcast about that? Well, we do. Are Unique. 31 00:02:20.379 --> 00:02:24.979 Yeah, yeah, when. But but that boldness topic was actually be 32 00:02:25.099 --> 00:02:29.819 thought of it because of our guests today, right. Yeah, thought of 33 00:02:29.860 --> 00:02:37.530 it because of Jenna, because she's young and bold and I'm working with many 34 00:02:37.770 --> 00:02:43.490 new counselors right now, also young, and there are varying degrees of boldness 35 00:02:43.770 --> 00:02:47.159 in them, and that's what kind of sparked that one and then led to 36 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:52.960 this podcast. Yeah, Les, we want to know what's her secret, 37 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:57.080 right, right, Daniel h yeah, this is kind of like a part 38 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:00.990 two of that previous pot. It is like how can this manifest? Yeah, 39 00:03:00.030 --> 00:03:04.990 we gave you some scripture and some scriptural examples and some experiences that we've 40 00:03:05.030 --> 00:03:09.830 had, but we wanted to bring Jenna on because she's a bold young lady, 41 00:03:09.949 --> 00:03:16.580 but she's also she's humble. She walks in humility. She's walking with 42 00:03:16.659 --> 00:03:21.939 the Lord, of course, and it's obvious that God is moving through her 43 00:03:21.979 --> 00:03:23.379 and working through her. So we thought that we would get her to share 44 00:03:23.379 --> 00:03:28.289 her story with you guys, maybe share what the Lord has taught her of 45 00:03:28.490 --> 00:03:31.370 how to walk in boldness. She's on the sidewalks, she's engaging people, 46 00:03:31.490 --> 00:03:36.650 but even beyond that, like she's engaging pastors, getting pastors to come out 47 00:03:36.689 --> 00:03:39.090 and if you know anything about love life, we try to get churches to 48 00:03:39.129 --> 00:03:43.960 adopt a week and ultimately do a prayer walk at the abortion center. She's 49 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:46.840 asking pastors to do that, pastors who've not really done anything about abortion. 50 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:52.120 She's getting them to come out and do a prayer walk at an abortion center, 51 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:57.669 which is really a difficult task. And so obviously she's got some boldness, 52 00:03:58.229 --> 00:04:00.509 but I think she would recognize, and we'll get her to share here 53 00:04:00.550 --> 00:04:04.629 in just a second, that it's the Lord working through her. So anyway, 54 00:04:04.669 --> 00:04:08.310 we wanted to bring Jenna on. I hope this will be an encouragement 55 00:04:08.349 --> 00:04:13.099 to you guys. So yeah, so Jenna, just introduce yourself a little 56 00:04:13.099 --> 00:04:15.420 bit, kind of where you serve at and we'll kind of get into your 57 00:04:15.459 --> 00:04:19.980 background and the different things that we we think would help encourage others. Yeah, 58 00:04:20.100 --> 00:04:24.529 Hey, guys. So my name is Jenna. I'm a sidewalk missionary 59 00:04:24.689 --> 00:04:29.290 and Rona, Virginia and I'm twenty one years old. I've been married for 60 00:04:29.649 --> 00:04:32.410 a little bit over a year now to my wonderful husband, Eastman, and 61 00:04:32.769 --> 00:04:35.970 he's here. He's from here, Roona, Virginia, but I was actually 62 00:04:36.009 --> 00:04:42.160 born and raised in Woodstock, Georgia. Okay, yeah, so your southern 63 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:46.519 girl I am. Yeah, that's probably where the boldness comes from. Actually 64 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:51.759 married twenty one years old, I mean when I met her, I'm sixty 65 00:04:51.870 --> 00:04:58.310 five and I'm thinking, Wow, they just keep getting younger and how is 66 00:04:58.509 --> 00:05:01.670 she gonna do? Because this is this is really I mean the sidewalk missionary 67 00:05:01.750 --> 00:05:09.899 in a new city, a big and very in many ways intimidating position to 68 00:05:10.100 --> 00:05:16.579 to be in. So so we were all very pleasantly surprised by how you 69 00:05:16.819 --> 00:05:23.449 just really took the bull by the horns and and did what what you needed 70 00:05:23.490 --> 00:05:27.209 to do out there with with boldness, integrity and, like Daniel said, 71 00:05:27.250 --> 00:05:30.290 a lot of humility. Yep. But yeah, I'm very Y. I 72 00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:33.370 did talk with you a little bit at at when we first met you, 73 00:05:33.569 --> 00:05:38.040 and I knew a little bit about your background, but can you kind of 74 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.720 fill us in a little bit about, you know, your family, your 75 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:46.959 upbringing, when when you came to the Lord and you know, things like 76 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:51.389 that. Yeah, absolutely. So. I'm actually the youngest of five children 77 00:05:51.550 --> 00:05:56.269 to my amazing parents, Jean and Jamie, and I was really kind of 78 00:05:56.430 --> 00:06:00.990 raised in the church and I also grew up going to a private Christian school. 79 00:06:00.990 --> 00:06:04.420 So faith and Christianity, you know, those were never foreign terms to 80 00:06:04.540 --> 00:06:10.620 me and my parents taught preschool in our church. They've taught for over fifteen 81 00:06:10.699 --> 00:06:15.699 years. So I feel like it was through my family and through other believers 82 00:06:15.819 --> 00:06:20.569 influence that really drew me to Christ at such a young age, because I 83 00:06:20.610 --> 00:06:25.089 saw the way that they lived their lives and I just remember thinking like man, 84 00:06:25.170 --> 00:06:29.329 I want that. So I gave my life to Christ at five years 85 00:06:29.329 --> 00:06:33.399 old and I was baptized and, you know, growing up in the faith, 86 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:39.360 I feel like God really gave me a heart for people that were seen 87 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:44.399 as less than people who were maybe struggling in life, and serving others has 88 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:47.670 just really become a part of my heart and something that I desired to do, 89 00:06:48.509 --> 00:06:54.550 and God has always really revealed himself to me through the way that Jesus 90 00:06:55.069 --> 00:06:58.350 reached out to, you know, what we would call the least of these. 91 00:06:58.509 --> 00:07:01.379 Yeah, yeah, so there was never really a time in your life 92 00:07:01.420 --> 00:07:06.579 that you remember that you were not walking with the Lord. Yeah, I'm 93 00:07:06.660 --> 00:07:10.819 mad, is have Jesus was always, you know, a big part of 94 00:07:10.860 --> 00:07:15.500 my life and you know, even through holidays or just you know regular every 95 00:07:15.970 --> 00:07:18.329 every day of the week, it was a big discussion in our house and 96 00:07:20.209 --> 00:07:24.490 that had I had to develop my own faith, not just my families, 97 00:07:24.529 --> 00:07:27.610 and that was a challenge for me, but coming to look know the Lord 98 00:07:27.689 --> 00:07:30.920 on my own, through the influence of my family and through strong believers. 99 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:36.480 HMM. Yeah, so talked a little bit about I know you've already shared 100 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.839 a little bit, but when you came to know the Lord, what was 101 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:46.430 what was the context there, and just kind of the impact that the Lord 102 00:07:46.470 --> 00:07:48.790 kind of you had immediately on your life, coming from being raised in a 103 00:07:48.829 --> 00:07:57.790 Christian home and having a faith that saturated the home, but then embracing Jesus 104 00:07:57.870 --> 00:08:00.339 as your Lord and Savior. Kind of talk about that a little bit. 105 00:08:00.899 --> 00:08:05.220 Yeah, so, I mean growing up I had great influences through not only 106 00:08:05.259 --> 00:08:09.779 my parents but my siblings, and I saw them walking in the Lord and 107 00:08:09.379 --> 00:08:15.850 I think that's really what encouraged me to get to know this Jesus more. 108 00:08:16.490 --> 00:08:20.689 And, you know, growing up being in the church, you know every 109 00:08:20.769 --> 00:08:24.850 Sunday, every Wednesday, and being in a Christian school, that topic of 110 00:08:26.170 --> 00:08:30.079 Jesus and what he did for us on the Cross was very prevalent. But 111 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.039 I had to determine for myself what I believed and why I believed that, 112 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.509 and just through reading God's word, he really revealed himself to me and I 113 00:08:41.549 --> 00:08:46.029 feel like he showed me so much grace by revealing himself to me at such 114 00:08:46.070 --> 00:08:50.830 a young age that I was able to give my life to Christ at five 115 00:08:50.870 --> 00:08:54.269 years old, which, of course, I didn't know everything about the Gospel, 116 00:08:54.470 --> 00:09:00.500 nor will I ever, but he's continuing to reveal himself to me as 117 00:09:00.620 --> 00:09:05.860 I grow in the faith. Yeah, so it age five, you know, 118 00:09:07.019 --> 00:09:13.090 there's got to be just a very, very cursory understanding of sin and 119 00:09:13.570 --> 00:09:18.490 and just all of the other, you know, major biblical concepts would as 120 00:09:18.570 --> 00:09:22.490 you got older. Were you just building on that or was there a period 121 00:09:22.529 --> 00:09:26.440 where you really thought, I'm not sure any of this is true and you 122 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:30.080 had to kind of go and re examine it? I would say, you 123 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.600 know, there's always doubts, always questions that I've had in my mind, 124 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.559 but my dad would explain to you that he's always seen me as a very 125 00:09:37.590 --> 00:09:41.990 black and white person, the way that I view things, and I think 126 00:09:41.029 --> 00:09:46.029 that's because of my foundation on scripture. He often shares an example of one 127 00:09:46.070 --> 00:09:50.590 time when we were at a roller skating rink and I was, you know, 128 00:09:50.750 --> 00:09:54.460 going around the rink and the announcer said, all right, it's time 129 00:09:54.460 --> 00:09:56.299 to get off the you know, off the floor, and immediately. He 130 00:09:56.460 --> 00:10:00.580 said I'd be lined it all the way from the oppossite side all the way 131 00:10:00.620 --> 00:10:03.139 over to where he was, and I got off and I looked behind me 132 00:10:03.220 --> 00:10:05.100 and I was like, why are they not listening? Why is everyone still 133 00:10:05.100 --> 00:10:09.769 going around the rink? So I feel like that's a good example of how 134 00:10:09.049 --> 00:10:13.490 God has really given me that black and white view of scripture and, you 135 00:10:13.610 --> 00:10:22.080 know, life versus or evil versus good. Right. Yeah, yeah, 136 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:28.120 if I forget to ask later, it may not be the right point now 137 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.440 to ask, but I want you to kind of keep in your mind if 138 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.629 you've ever been challenged by someone saying you always knew God, you always knew 139 00:10:35.629 --> 00:10:41.110 right from wrong, you had an incredibly supportive family who always guided you and 140 00:10:41.230 --> 00:10:48.230 right from wrong, you can't possibly understand where I'm coming from, because I 141 00:10:48.350 --> 00:10:54.740 know I have heard that to other young people raised in the faith from a 142 00:10:54.899 --> 00:11:00.500 a very hurting, wounded population, which are most of the women that are 143 00:11:00.539 --> 00:11:03.139 going to be entering an abortion center right so I don't know if we want 144 00:11:03.139 --> 00:11:07.250 to answer that right now or if you want to think about that and we'll 145 00:11:07.490 --> 00:11:11.690 touch on that later, maybe in this in this chat. Yeah, I 146 00:11:11.809 --> 00:11:20.159 mean I'll answer that myself for you are you didn't have that stainless background, 147 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.519 did you, Dan? Yeah, not really. What the Bible says of 148 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.440 itself like if you have. This is Paul speaking to Timothy, talking about 149 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:28.919 the word of God. Yeah, that, if you've got the word of 150 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:33.509 God, I'm paraphrasing, then you're thoroughly equipped for every good work. Like 151 00:11:35.429 --> 00:11:37.269 you know, personally, I've never been a woman, never been pregnant, 152 00:11:37.350 --> 00:11:41.509 and so I've had the accusation gets me. How do you know? You 153 00:11:41.549 --> 00:11:43.549 don't know what it is to be pregnant, you don't know it is to 154 00:11:43.549 --> 00:11:46.139 be a woman. Who are you to talk to me? Well, I'm 155 00:11:46.220 --> 00:11:48.779 someone that loves you and cares about you, and though I don't have all 156 00:11:48.820 --> 00:11:54.100 of your life experiences, no one does. No one has everybody's life experiences. 157 00:11:54.220 --> 00:11:58.580 You know, you could. You could come from a horrible background and 158 00:11:58.659 --> 00:12:01.610 not be the same ethnicity as somebody in you. Of course, don't know. 159 00:12:03.289 --> 00:12:05.330 They're cir their circumstances, of their situations, but what you do know 160 00:12:07.169 --> 00:12:11.490 is you know truth, and if you know truth, then you've ultimately got 161 00:12:11.610 --> 00:12:15.009 what people need right they need and encounter with the truth. The one who 162 00:12:15.009 --> 00:12:18.799 is the truth, Jesus, himself. So I'm answering that for Jenna, 163 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:22.000 although we can let her answer that later on if she I think that's a 164 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.639 that's a great answer. I think what I'm hearing, and have always heard, 165 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:31.509 is that she has truth and she has always had that in her background 166 00:12:31.509 --> 00:12:37.350 and that is powerful and attractive. Yeah, and people will seek after that. 167 00:12:37.710 --> 00:12:43.190 So tell us about what brought you to sidewachman ministry, because that's you 168 00:12:43.230 --> 00:12:46.700 said. You always felt you wanted to help others, kind of that that 169 00:12:46.899 --> 00:12:52.740 was your model that you saw in Jesus. This is a very difficult ministry 170 00:12:54.299 --> 00:12:58.850 and not a popular one and really, in many ways unknown, and I 171 00:13:00.049 --> 00:13:03.009 didn't know about it. I'd been a Christian for thirty years before I have 172 00:13:03.090 --> 00:13:05.409 heard knew that people did this. So here you are, aged twenty one 173 00:13:05.490 --> 00:13:09.929 and you chose to devote your life to it. What made you, or 174 00:13:09.970 --> 00:13:13.679 at least your life right now, out to that? So what brought you 175 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.120 here? Yeah, well, God is, you know, he's very detailed 176 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:22.840 and very intricate with his plans. So it is amazing how I got where 177 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.840 I am today. And you know, being raised in the church, being 178 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:31.190 pro life is kind of in the DNA and the fingerprints of being a Christian. 179 00:13:31.669 --> 00:13:35.470 But it wasn't until my freshman year of college where I was truly exposed 180 00:13:35.509 --> 00:13:41.460 to the, you know, atrocity of abortion. So I was going to 181 00:13:41.539 --> 00:13:46.179 community college in Georgia for a degree and dental hygiene and I was just taking 182 00:13:46.220 --> 00:13:50.980 my core classes, one of which, one of which was American government and 183 00:13:52.460 --> 00:13:56.769 what my professor one day decided to bring up the topic of abortion and she 184 00:13:56.850 --> 00:14:01.090 allowed us to have kind of a discussion about it, but it ended up 185 00:14:01.169 --> 00:14:05.169 not being much of a discussion. It was actually very much one sided in 186 00:14:05.289 --> 00:14:11.399 favor of abortion, and honestly, I can just remember sitting there that day 187 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:16.919 and my body was physically shaking and I was almost just angry that my generation 188 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:22.960 had been so deceived to believe that abortion was okay. And I wasn't prepared 189 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.830 that day to be a voice for the voiceless. I didn't know what to 190 00:14:26.909 --> 00:14:31.549 say, but I was motivated to do something further. So right after class 191 00:14:31.590 --> 00:14:35.309 that day, I actually went up to my professor and I just started telling 192 00:14:35.389 --> 00:14:41.259 her what I thought about abortion. And it turns out she was pro life 193 00:14:41.419 --> 00:14:45.740 and a Christian, and not only that, but she had been praying for 194 00:14:45.940 --> 00:14:50.139 God to raise up a student on campus that could help her start a pro 195 00:14:50.299 --> 00:14:54.009 life club at the school. So together, me and her, you know, 196 00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:58.330 we got connected with students for life and we watched this club on campus 197 00:14:58.769 --> 00:15:03.769 to really just educate students on abortion and then also to help expecting moms, 198 00:15:03.809 --> 00:15:09.320 and we would do, you know, occasional sidewalk outreach. And then it 199 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:16.799 wasn't too long before covid hit and caught wind and it, you know, 200 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:20.240 closed the school campus and I was laid off my job and I was just 201 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:26.029 stuck at home and didn't know what to do with my time. So during 202 00:15:26.110 --> 00:15:30.070 this time I was engaged and I was planning to move to Virginia after the 203 00:15:30.149 --> 00:15:35.230 wedding and I didn't really want to invest in this school club that I wasn't 204 00:15:35.230 --> 00:15:37.220 going to, you know, be a part of anymore once I moved. 205 00:15:39.460 --> 00:15:43.179 But I still wanted to be involved in pro life work. So what I 206 00:15:43.340 --> 00:15:48.299 started to do was outreach through social media, on instagram and facebook, because 207 00:15:48.340 --> 00:15:50.809 that was really the only place at that time that I could have a voice. 208 00:15:52.450 --> 00:15:54.610 So I was just writing posts about, you know, how would you 209 00:15:54.649 --> 00:15:58.649 respond to typical pro abortion arguments, so that I could share it with my 210 00:15:58.769 --> 00:16:06.480 followers and educate people. And then over that summer a friend of my husband's 211 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:10.519 actually saw my social media post, and this is kind of some of the 212 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:15.039 intricate details of the whole story, but he was staying with Josh Cappis Love 213 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:22.110 Life Cope or, you know, Co President or vice president, and yeah, 214 00:16:22.629 --> 00:16:26.429 he was telling Josh about some of my posts and this was really at 215 00:16:26.509 --> 00:16:32.549 the time when love life was expanding from Charlotte all the way through love life 216 00:16:32.590 --> 00:16:37.019 America. So I got in contact with Josh and we started having zoom meetings 217 00:16:37.139 --> 00:16:41.779 and I was invited to training with you, Vicky and Daniel. So I 218 00:16:41.059 --> 00:16:45.019 attended that training and I think it was August of two thousand and twenty and 219 00:16:48.009 --> 00:16:51.970 you know, I was commissioned as a sidewalk missionary and went off to Rona, 220 00:16:52.049 --> 00:16:55.649 Virginia, and that's where kind of this ministry began. So, as 221 00:16:55.730 --> 00:16:59.049 you can see, you know, God is really in the details and has 222 00:16:59.129 --> 00:17:03.759 guided me to where I am right now. Yeah, that's an amazing story 223 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:07.920 and this is like a little point that you made early on, but I 224 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:12.279 am dying to know so that you you were in a class with a professor 225 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:21.910 who communicated a what was really the pro abortion side and unless time it's understood. 226 00:17:21.950 --> 00:17:25.589 You. She actually went down and talked to her and she was actually 227 00:17:25.670 --> 00:17:30.940 prolife. Yeah, so what she had communicated that day was just that we 228 00:17:30.059 --> 00:17:33.700 were going to be talking about abortion, but she wasn't doing much of the 229 00:17:33.740 --> 00:17:38.619 talking. It was the student who were having a conversation in class. So 230 00:17:38.980 --> 00:17:42.660 it was really all these pro abortion students, people that were my age, 231 00:17:44.099 --> 00:17:47.490 that were, you know, for abortion, and I was the only person 232 00:17:47.529 --> 00:17:52.609 in class that day that was against abortion and I didn't know much to say, 233 00:17:52.730 --> 00:17:56.410 but I do remember bringing up the fact that life begins its conception and 234 00:17:56.569 --> 00:18:00.319 talking about all the human DNA, you know, that unique, never to 235 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:04.240 be made again, human DNA, and that was the only thing that I 236 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:08.680 could think of that day to talk about and you know, that has motivated 237 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:12.750 me to be more prepared so that I can have those conversations with people. 238 00:18:14.869 --> 00:18:18.910 Yeah, it also was a scenario that is not unlike what you faced on 239 00:18:18.990 --> 00:18:22.309 the sidewalk. You are you are usually one voice in a sea of opposition. 240 00:18:22.829 --> 00:18:27.700 And and so the personality type, I think, that thrives in that 241 00:18:29.059 --> 00:18:34.619 kind of a mission or ministry is someone who is bold enough to not shrink 242 00:18:34.779 --> 00:18:41.650 back from the fact that you're one of very few that are, you know, 243 00:18:41.890 --> 00:18:45.930 trying to speak what you believe is right and true. Yeah, that's 244 00:18:47.089 --> 00:18:51.250 so, that's that's pretty amazing. God really was that to you know, 245 00:18:51.450 --> 00:18:55.720 speaks to situations where, you know, because we can lack confidence and we 246 00:18:55.799 --> 00:19:00.799 can lack boldness and we can even shy away from putting ourselves in situations where 247 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.880 we're going to be put on the spot. And I don't think that day 248 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.359 that you knew you're going to be put on the spot in that way, 249 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:11.269 but you did know, going into a university or to a college campus, 250 00:19:11.470 --> 00:19:15.150 that it was going to be sort of a hostile environment, right. Yeah, 251 00:19:15.269 --> 00:19:18.869 and as believers in Jesus, we've got to be willing to put ourselves 252 00:19:18.869 --> 00:19:22.950 in hostile environments because what often times the Lord will do in those environments is, 253 00:19:23.299 --> 00:19:27.779 like you said, use that to spur us on to dig deeper and 254 00:19:27.900 --> 00:19:32.539 to figure out. Okay, I don't know how to combat these arguments right 255 00:19:32.579 --> 00:19:36.099 now, but I'm going to find out. And I would say the same 256 00:19:36.140 --> 00:19:38.410 way as far as the sidewalks are concerned, I get a lot of questions 257 00:19:38.450 --> 00:19:41.210 from people who say, you know, I don't want to go out there 258 00:19:41.289 --> 00:19:45.130 because I don't know what to say. I don't know how to respond when 259 00:19:45.210 --> 00:19:49.609 someone says this or says that, and we we do podcast episodes to help 260 00:19:49.650 --> 00:19:52.119 you know how to respond. So we've taken care of that for you. 261 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:56.480 But the fact is we can never do enough episodes to tell you how to 262 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:02.240 respond in every situation. You've got to just go out there, put yourself 263 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:07.000 on the line in the sense put yourself in an uncomfortable situation, and God 264 00:20:07.150 --> 00:20:10.349 would like. We promise, God will grow you and ways in your walk 265 00:20:10.430 --> 00:20:12.190 with God. If you go out there on that sidewalk, you will grow 266 00:20:12.269 --> 00:20:15.470 in ways that you will not grow otherwise, and I think that's what you've 267 00:20:15.829 --> 00:20:19.390 discovered, even in that setting, but also being out on the sidewalk. 268 00:20:19.990 --> 00:20:22.619 Am I right about that? Yeah, definitely. You know, you grow 269 00:20:22.619 --> 00:20:26.660 up and if you grow up in the church, you kind of grow up 270 00:20:26.660 --> 00:20:30.619 in what people call the Christian bubble. Yes, and going to college, 271 00:20:30.619 --> 00:20:33.980 university be that wasn't, you know, faith based. It was kind of 272 00:20:34.019 --> 00:20:40.049 a culture shock for me to see that there are actually different opinions. So 273 00:20:40.210 --> 00:20:45.529 it is important that we're preparing ourselves, you know, for needing to respond 274 00:20:45.849 --> 00:20:51.599 to those other opinions and showing them the Gospel through it. Yeah, throughout 275 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:53.799 that semester, were you able to go back to those students, to that 276 00:20:55.000 --> 00:21:00.240 class, and slowly begin to give your point of view and challenge their worldview? 277 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:04.750 Yeah, great questions. So I actually did go back to that class 278 00:21:04.990 --> 00:21:10.750 and that same professor who helped me start the pro life club, she invited 279 00:21:10.829 --> 00:21:14.509 me to come share about, you know, our club that we had started 280 00:21:15.069 --> 00:21:17.950 and to share a little bit about abortion. So I was able to go 281 00:21:18.150 --> 00:21:21.819 back and share the truth that I had learned. So that was an amazing 282 00:21:21.859 --> 00:21:26.900 opportunity to be able to respond. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, I 283 00:21:27.019 --> 00:21:30.259 was going to ask what are some of the things that you did to help 284 00:21:30.339 --> 00:21:34.089 equip yourself? You know, you're in that situation you leave with, you 285 00:21:34.210 --> 00:21:40.130 know, barely being able to answer, at least not having a good framework 286 00:21:40.210 --> 00:21:42.210 for answering these things. Is here you are exposed to a whole classroom for 287 00:21:42.289 --> 00:21:45.769 the pro abortion people. What did you do? What did you go online 288 00:21:45.809 --> 00:21:49.799 and sort some websites and get some information and things like that? Yeah, 289 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:53.400 so right after that day, I mean I was fired up, like God 290 00:21:53.519 --> 00:22:00.799 was really breaking my heart that day and I was just so motivated to educate 291 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:06.589 myself. So I went home and immediately I just started watching Youtube video after 292 00:22:06.670 --> 00:22:12.789 Youtube video of people responding to pro abortion arguments and learning what the best way 293 00:22:12.829 --> 00:22:19.900 to communicate with someone would be and how to use scripture to guide those conversations. 294 00:22:22.500 --> 00:22:25.500 And so, in a sense, as always like to use a we 295 00:22:25.619 --> 00:22:30.210 talked about boldness and stepping out the analogy of David, David and Goliath, 296 00:22:30.289 --> 00:22:33.410 in a sense, like Goliath was in that classroom that day, this this 297 00:22:33.730 --> 00:22:40.250 big culture of death thing, mocking God, mocking the truth of God, 298 00:22:41.049 --> 00:22:45.160 and you went and guts five smooth stones to take the life down right. 299 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:49.359 Yeah, that's kind of what happened. That's that's good. I think it's 300 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:57.279 just so astonishing how sometimes there are single pivotal moments in life that really are 301 00:22:57.990 --> 00:23:02.309 they truly do change the trajectory of our life, and it sounds like that 302 00:23:02.390 --> 00:23:10.230 that classroom situation was was one of those. And and how how wonderful of 303 00:23:10.349 --> 00:23:14.700 God to point you not only through that experience, but then to point you 304 00:23:14.740 --> 00:23:18.019 to josh and to be able to find out, hey, there is a 305 00:23:18.099 --> 00:23:22.660 place where I can do what God has now raised a passion in me to 306 00:23:22.740 --> 00:23:27.450 do. Absolutely so. Yeah, and to see that plan through the through 307 00:23:27.569 --> 00:23:32.690 this school reveal itself to me. You know, if anyone knows me, 308 00:23:33.130 --> 00:23:37.289 I had mentioned I was in going to school for dental hygiene. But if 309 00:23:37.329 --> 00:23:41.119 anyone knows me, like I am not into other people's dental hygiene. So 310 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.279 it was very bizarre that I was even going to school for that in the 311 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.359 first place. But that was the only college in my area that offered a 312 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:53.240 degree and m a hygiene. So it was God guiding me there specifically for 313 00:23:53.400 --> 00:24:00.069 that moment to break my heart for abortion. Yeah, amazing, that's pretty 314 00:24:00.269 --> 00:24:04.430 that's pretty cool. And then just seeing how the Lord made that connection with 315 00:24:04.710 --> 00:24:08.670 ultimately with love life and, you know, just at really the right time. 316 00:24:11.619 --> 00:24:17.660 That was pretty cool. So your fiance's friend was staying with Josh because 317 00:24:18.059 --> 00:24:21.099 he knew Josh's family or something. I can't remember, like you, I 318 00:24:21.140 --> 00:24:23.769 think. Is that an internship some way or something like that? And when 319 00:24:23.809 --> 00:24:30.049 he's internship of Chickfula, staying with Josh and his basement and heard about this 320 00:24:30.210 --> 00:24:33.970 love life thing and kind of US expanding and hey, here's a here's a 321 00:24:34.009 --> 00:24:38.039 girl that I know who might be interested in this. You end up coming 322 00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:41.960 a boot camp, which I know that was a step of faith as well. 323 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:48.039 And and then really, once you hit the ground in Rowano, he 324 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.680 really hit the ground run. It has been just such a blessing for us 325 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.029 to see so rewarding. I don't know about for you, Vicky, but 326 00:24:56.349 --> 00:25:00.069 it's for me to see we've sown some some principles and some truth into people 327 00:25:00.109 --> 00:25:03.869 and just to see those seeds that we've sold take root. It's really rewarding. 328 00:25:04.190 --> 00:25:10.819 It really is, and I would love to hear from your perspective it. 329 00:25:10.980 --> 00:25:14.299 You're still pretty new at this, I guess it has it been a 330 00:25:14.460 --> 00:25:18.380 year of year that all over, a year to yeah, think back when 331 00:25:18.420 --> 00:25:22.170 you started here. You are no one else, is that there right, 332 00:25:22.289 --> 00:25:26.650 this is you starting a ministry at a at an abortion center in your city. 333 00:25:30.089 --> 00:25:34.650 How did you feel? What were the challenges? Did you feel this 334 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:40.880 boldness and confidence that we see in you as you step out on that sidewalk 335 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:45.000 or step in front of pastors? So kind of talk us through those those 336 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.039 first days, what you were feeling as a young person this this new, 337 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:56.430 challenging time in your life. And and you know, where did you go 338 00:25:56.589 --> 00:26:00.309 from there? Yeah, so when we first got out to the clinic, 339 00:26:00.349 --> 00:26:06.059 I hadn't done much sidewalk counseling before love life. I had, you know, 340 00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:08.259 gone out to an abortion clinic a few times and maybe held a sign 341 00:26:08.299 --> 00:26:14.819 and prayed, but I hadn't communicated with anyone who was abortion minded. So 342 00:26:15.420 --> 00:26:19.450 I was very overwhelmed when first going out. But I remember the first time 343 00:26:19.529 --> 00:26:25.490 my husband came with me to play parenthood in Roanoak and the first three women 344 00:26:25.609 --> 00:26:30.329 that came in stopped and took resources and I just couldn't believe it. And 345 00:26:30.609 --> 00:26:34.119 while there's challenges to being young, I feel like there's also different benefits as 346 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.079 well. I feel like God has really put favor on me as far as 347 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.759 being able to communicate with these women. You know, they see a young 348 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.200 girl and I think it makes me approachable. But you know, like you 349 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:49.589 said, there's also those challenges as well. There's been times where I'm not 350 00:26:49.789 --> 00:26:53.630 taken seriously and I've been called, you know, referred to as a little 351 00:26:53.710 --> 00:26:56.710 girl, or that I'm ignorant and don't know, you know, don't know 352 00:26:56.750 --> 00:27:02.140 what I'm talking about or I don't understand. And I've been asked several times 353 00:27:02.259 --> 00:27:06.180 myself if you know I was even a mom, because I couldn't understand what 354 00:27:06.220 --> 00:27:08.339 they're going through, which, you know, it doesn't take being a mom 355 00:27:08.460 --> 00:27:14.539 or an older adult to understand that God has placed value on life and that 356 00:27:14.660 --> 00:27:18.490 he cares for the unborn. So yeah, there's definitely that benefit and that 357 00:27:18.410 --> 00:27:22.329 benefit of being young, but there's a challenge as well, and I know 358 00:27:22.529 --> 00:27:26.490 that I had a lot of doubts going into this Ministry of, you know, 359 00:27:26.730 --> 00:27:30.920 just asking God like why me, like why would God pick me? 360 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.119 You know, at this when I was first starting with love life, I 361 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.240 was nineteen years old. Wow. So I was like, why me, 362 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.400 when there's so many other adults that are more wise than me or more equipped 363 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.150 than me? But it's not about my capability, it's hot about what I 364 00:27:45.349 --> 00:27:49.910 can do, but about what Christ can and will do through me. And 365 00:27:51.230 --> 00:27:52.990 I remember at boot camp, if you guys kept telling us over and over 366 00:27:53.029 --> 00:27:59.019 again that you're running with the willing. So while I may have been, 367 00:27:59.180 --> 00:28:03.180 you know, the youngest there, there was adults up to seventy s beyond, 368 00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:07.380 but the same the thing that we all had in common was, first 369 00:28:07.380 --> 00:28:11.500 of all, faith in Christ and we understand that we're simply just vessels, 370 00:28:12.049 --> 00:28:15.890 you know, ready to be used by God. So, even through those 371 00:28:15.930 --> 00:28:21.650 challenges of debt doubt that I've faced. I trust that God will do the 372 00:28:21.730 --> 00:28:25.130 work through me and you know, all I have to do is be willing 373 00:28:25.210 --> 00:28:30.240 and obedient. Yes, that's so true that that gets kind of to that 374 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.960 question. I asked early on when people challenge you because you have not had 375 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:41.160 their experiences, and you answered very similarly to how how Daniel answered that it 376 00:28:41.670 --> 00:28:45.390 those experiences are not what you need. You Need Truth and you've got that. 377 00:28:45.069 --> 00:28:52.710 You've got that through through the Lord. So did you ever have someone 378 00:28:52.750 --> 00:28:57.859 really come and say I I'm not even going to talk to you because you 379 00:28:59.019 --> 00:29:06.299 can't begin to know what it's like to be pregnant and poor when you've never 380 00:29:06.339 --> 00:29:11.210 even been pregnant and you've got, you know, this supportive family? I 381 00:29:11.769 --> 00:29:17.450 would say we've had an overwhelming good response from most of the people that we 382 00:29:17.529 --> 00:29:22.089 have conversations with. So I went necessarily say that I've had people, you 383 00:29:22.210 --> 00:29:26.519 know, ask me for a response in that way. But when we first 384 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.440 got started, it was very slow and we weren't seeing any fruit from our 385 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.240 labor, Labor, and that was very discouraging to me and I just started 386 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.079 asking my mom. You know, I'm in Rono Virginia at this time and 387 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.950 my mom and my family and all my friends are back in Woodstock, Georgia, 388 00:29:41.470 --> 00:29:45.150 and I just asked her like would you please, please pray for us, 389 00:29:45.269 --> 00:29:48.950 and she felt moved by the spirit to start a prayer group for us. 390 00:29:48.430 --> 00:29:52.220 And once this prayer group took place, you know, these are people 391 00:29:52.259 --> 00:29:56.859 praying from Woodstock Georgia, people praying from our area and even across the United 392 00:29:56.900 --> 00:30:03.180 States. We saw this huge shift take place and there were more families that 393 00:30:03.259 --> 00:30:07.210 were coming up and talking with us and they were open to communicating and they 394 00:30:07.250 --> 00:30:10.930 were being vulnerable with us, which is something that I hadn't seen before. 395 00:30:11.609 --> 00:30:15.049 So I would say that we have had a really, you know, a 396 00:30:15.210 --> 00:30:18.250 great response from the families that we do have an opportunity to talk to. 397 00:30:18.650 --> 00:30:23.359 I love would what you just pointed out. It's such a truth that you 398 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.839 perceived that this battle was truly not a battle of flesh and blood, but 399 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:33.079 a spiritual battle, and you began immediately to fight it with spiritual weapons, 400 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.430 and that's when a turnaround came. So so the prayer, a faithful prayer 401 00:30:37.470 --> 00:30:44.630 group behind you. That's that's amazing. Yes, yeah, yeah, I 402 00:30:44.670 --> 00:30:48.589 mean I would say, Gosh, that's something I've learned as well. I'll 403 00:30:48.670 --> 00:30:53.339 just knowing the spiritual warfare that we're in and knowing the battle that we're facing. 404 00:30:53.579 --> 00:31:00.059 It's so intense and the discouragement that can come can be so it can 405 00:31:00.099 --> 00:31:04.490 be detrimental. Just the discouragement that we can be under. Knowing that there 406 00:31:04.490 --> 00:31:10.930 are people specifically behind US praying is a powerful thing. I've seen a shift 407 00:31:11.089 --> 00:31:15.130 myself, even being out here in California. There's just been some challenges and 408 00:31:15.289 --> 00:31:21.119 things. Moving my family out here has been a challenge and just spiritual warfare 409 00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:26.480 that's here, the devil trying to come in and just distract and all these 410 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.480 other things like, man, I need to get a prayer group together myself, 411 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.480 so I reached out to a couple of brothers and said, Hey, 412 00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.230 would you guys be praying for me, and I can just testify to what 413 00:31:34.309 --> 00:31:40.630 you're saying, Jenna. I can feel a difference. I can see momentum 414 00:31:41.509 --> 00:31:45.349 building and I can see things moving forward at a faster pace because I know 415 00:31:45.750 --> 00:31:48.619 that people are praying, they're appealing to heaven for me. So you guys 416 00:31:48.619 --> 00:31:52.579 that are out on the sidewalk, and I would say specifically for you who 417 00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:56.700 are brand new and you're thinking maybe you've never been out in the sidewalk or 418 00:31:56.740 --> 00:31:59.140 maybe you've only been out there for a couple of times. I want to 419 00:31:59.180 --> 00:32:01.650 encourage you to do what Jenna did. Reach out to some people. There 420 00:32:01.690 --> 00:32:06.170 are people in your life, believers, who can't be out there on the 421 00:32:06.210 --> 00:32:09.410 sidewalk for it whatever reason, but they can pray for you, and have 422 00:32:09.569 --> 00:32:15.319 them pray for you once a day. Or maybe you have seven different people 423 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.559 praying for you once a day every week. Have some might cover each day, 424 00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.640 you know, or just the days that you're going to be out on 425 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:27.519 the sidewalk. Maybe you're committed to go out on the sidewalk every Friday. 426 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.670 Build a prayer team to be praying for you every Friday. Have a have 427 00:32:31.269 --> 00:32:35.710 have that air support, because that's kind of what it is like military terms, 428 00:32:35.789 --> 00:32:37.990 right. You've got the people that are on the ground and then you 429 00:32:37.029 --> 00:32:43.710 got the air support, and that is a powerful, powerful weapon against the 430 00:32:43.750 --> 00:32:46.900 enemy and against discouragement, but also, like you see, breakthrough. Like 431 00:32:46.980 --> 00:32:50.940 yeah, you testified to Jenna. Yeah. Now let me ask you, 432 00:32:51.059 --> 00:32:57.059 because I don't want to leave the this point too quickly, because I know 433 00:32:57.220 --> 00:33:00.089 I, like, like both of you, I think have, you know, 434 00:33:00.210 --> 00:33:04.809 came to a realization, wowvious is not of me. I need per 435 00:33:04.890 --> 00:33:07.130 support. I would start as soon as a mom I'd be talking to a 436 00:33:07.250 --> 00:33:09.890 mom, or someone else on the sidewalk was talking to mom. I would 437 00:33:09.890 --> 00:33:15.880 start texting or putting a post out on facebook. Please, please pray for 438 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:23.279 us, and sometimes I would see a mom choose life, but sometimes they 439 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:30.589 still choose abortion. They still do does it, you know. So God 440 00:33:30.750 --> 00:33:38.470 is not genie in a bottle that that grants our wishes. His will is 441 00:33:38.549 --> 00:33:47.420 supreme. But I certainly have experienced dis spite feeling like like sometimes I am 442 00:33:47.619 --> 00:33:54.700 in our team is fighting the battle with spiritual tools and well and prayer support, 443 00:33:55.210 --> 00:34:00.809 we will still experience defeat. We will still see moms walk into that 444 00:34:00.849 --> 00:34:06.569 abortion center. We will still fight discouragement. At least I have. So 445 00:34:06.809 --> 00:34:10.880 I'm just wondering if to have you experienced that as well, and how have 446 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:16.039 you dealt with that if you have? HMM, yeah, there's definitely been 447 00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:21.760 some defeat in this ministry, and I mean we all want to see fruit 448 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.550 from our labor, you know. We all want to see those lives saved 449 00:34:23.590 --> 00:34:27.550 and we want to see those amazing stories of how we've been able to walk 450 00:34:27.590 --> 00:34:31.510 alongside moms and mentor these families, but sometimes that's not always the case. 451 00:34:31.590 --> 00:34:37.670 And you know, I've had situations where I've counseled moms for the longest time, 452 00:34:37.909 --> 00:34:42.139 you know, outside the clinic orent and have continued texting them and praying 453 00:34:42.260 --> 00:34:49.300 for them and they still make that decision to disobey God. And something that 454 00:34:49.340 --> 00:34:52.619 you guys would say at training a lot that is really stuck with me is 455 00:34:52.699 --> 00:34:57.289 that the victory is in obedience and we just have to remember that. It's, 456 00:34:57.409 --> 00:35:00.010 you know, not those numbers, it's not the fruit of the Labor, 457 00:35:00.329 --> 00:35:05.409 while those are all very good things, but our victories in that obedience 458 00:35:05.530 --> 00:35:09.679 that we take. Yeah, and that helps you do that. Yes, 459 00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.239 it does. Yeah, I haven't. That's that kind of goes back to 460 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:19.360 even the podcast episode we did about motivation, right, and our motivation for 461 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:23.389 ministry. That our motivation can't be the babies in the MOM's not my primary 462 00:35:23.429 --> 00:35:27.989 motivation. Certainly, were motivated by that, right, you were initially motivated 463 00:35:28.070 --> 00:35:32.070 by the fact that our world are culture is a culture of death, and 464 00:35:32.429 --> 00:35:37.820 all the students in that classroom were pro aborts, pro abortion, but except 465 00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:42.900 for you, right that was a motivation, but your primary motivation is the 466 00:35:43.059 --> 00:35:45.219 Lord, your love for him, what he's done in your life. We've 467 00:35:45.219 --> 00:35:50.289 got to keep that as our motivation because if the victory is in babies being 468 00:35:50.369 --> 00:35:53.130 saved and the victory is in the moms choose in life, we don't see 469 00:35:53.250 --> 00:35:58.090 that every day and so we feel like we're not victorious every day. But 470 00:35:58.130 --> 00:36:01.090 if the victory is in obedience and if our motivation is a love for God 471 00:36:01.289 --> 00:36:07.519 first, then every day we show up, we're being obedient and we are 472 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.559 victorious. God's doing the stuff behind the scenes and God's doing the work. 473 00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.159 If the all the work is up to us, then we're going to be 474 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.909 sadly disappointed. The work is up to the Lord. We're just called to 475 00:36:19.989 --> 00:36:22.230 be obedient, to be a vessel for him to work through. Yeah, 476 00:36:22.550 --> 00:36:30.190 yeah, so that prayer support and all the spiritual uplifting and support can certainly 477 00:36:30.230 --> 00:36:35.980 help to change just our outlook on everything that we face, both the the 478 00:36:37.219 --> 00:36:40.780 wonderful fruit that we do see, but also of those times when we when 479 00:36:40.860 --> 00:36:45.460 we don't see food. So I don't want to leave it on a Downer 480 00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:50.010 like that. I know you've seen some really amazing things happen there. There 481 00:36:50.050 --> 00:36:54.210 are rewards. They're definitely rewards that are really pretty awesome and in this ministry. 482 00:36:54.289 --> 00:36:58.530 Can you talk about some of those? Yeah, well, I love 483 00:36:58.610 --> 00:37:01.119 the beginning of some of these verses in Isaiah Sixty one, because I kind 484 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:07.360 of goes through what we're doing on the sidewalks and it says the spirit of 485 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:12.119 the sovereign Lord is on me, because the Lord has anointed me to proclaim 486 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.789 good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the broken 487 00:37:15.829 --> 00:37:20.789 hearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from the from darkness for 488 00:37:20.829 --> 00:37:23.630 the prisoners, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor and the day of 489 00:37:23.710 --> 00:37:29.429 vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn and provide for those who 490 00:37:29.550 --> 00:37:34.260 grieve in Zion, to bestow on them a crown of beauty instead of ashes, 491 00:37:34.820 --> 00:37:38.019 the oil of joy instead of mourning, and a garment of praise instead 492 00:37:38.019 --> 00:37:43.260 of a spirit of despair. They will be called Oaks of righteousness, a 493 00:37:43.420 --> 00:37:46.730 planting of the Lord for the display of his splendor. And I feel like 494 00:37:46.929 --> 00:37:52.170 the reward that I really received through, you know, US being taking action 495 00:37:52.329 --> 00:37:57.769 through this word, is just the joy. I there's just so much joy 496 00:37:57.889 --> 00:38:01.519 in this Ministry of being a part of God's work and there's a reward and 497 00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:07.599 expectancy of hopefully seeing some of these families join us in the Kingdom one day 498 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:12.519 them. There's just there really is nothing that brings me more joy than doing 499 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:16.510 what God has called me to do. And you know, God doesn't need 500 00:38:16.630 --> 00:38:20.269 us. We often talk about how God doesn't need us and he doesn't have 501 00:38:20.389 --> 00:38:23.630 to have us, but he does choose to allow us to be a part 502 00:38:23.630 --> 00:38:29.820 of his work and that's a big blessing to me because I'm able to be 503 00:38:29.900 --> 00:38:34.739 a part of that fruit. You know, here in Roanoke we've seen sixteen 504 00:38:34.900 --> 00:38:38.820 lives saved from abortion over this past year. When we first started, you 505 00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:42.329 know, I said it was slow and we weren't seeing any fruit. So 506 00:38:42.889 --> 00:38:45.889 now to get to the point to where there's sixteen babies that were scheduled to 507 00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:52.329 die that now have life and that is such a reward to that would let 508 00:38:52.329 --> 00:38:55.639 us be a part of that testimony. So yeah, it's just amazing to 509 00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.880 witness the fruit of the Labor that he's allowed us to be a part of. 510 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.960 have any of those babies been born? Have you had the opportunity to 511 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.800 hold any of them. Yet there has been one born, one baby boy, 512 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.789 and he's a couple months old now, and we just threw a baby 513 00:39:10.869 --> 00:39:16.670 shower for Mama why, and she is do in January, so we're expecting 514 00:39:16.750 --> 00:39:22.190 her baby girl very soon. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, it's it's 515 00:39:22.269 --> 00:39:24.739 the mercy of God that we get to see the fruit of our labor. 516 00:39:24.739 --> 00:39:30.820 Yes, it is encouraging, even though the victories in obedience. That's like, 517 00:39:32.179 --> 00:39:36.860 that's the fruit of obedience, seeing God do, who is his work, 518 00:39:37.019 --> 00:39:39.409 in the loves of these MOMS and saving babies. So part of your 519 00:39:39.409 --> 00:39:45.730 job has been getting churches behind you, convincing pastors that that they should come 520 00:39:45.849 --> 00:39:53.440 on board and and be more active in supporting frontline pro life ministry. Has 521 00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.760 that been a challenge? Has that presented challenges for you, particularly in light 522 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.599 of the fact that you're young and and a woman? A lot of pastors, 523 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:05.079 most pastors, I assume that you're speaking with her, going to be 524 00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:10.309 man. Tell us about that. How how do you develop courage to do 525 00:40:12.269 --> 00:40:16.030 that? Yeah, I mean there's definitely challenges there. I never thought that 526 00:40:16.349 --> 00:40:19.949 at age twenty one, as a girl, that I would be reaching out 527 00:40:20.030 --> 00:40:24.099 to pastors, you know, connecting with churches. So it's kind of bizarre 528 00:40:24.260 --> 00:40:28.420 that God has put me in that position because I never would have expected it. 529 00:40:29.940 --> 00:40:32.059 And there has been some challenges. You know, there's been churches that 530 00:40:32.139 --> 00:40:35.730 have told us, well, we don't want to be known as what we're 531 00:40:35.769 --> 00:40:38.010 against, we only want to be known as what we're for, which I 532 00:40:38.130 --> 00:40:42.289 understand. Let's be, you know, for these MOMS, let's be for 533 00:40:42.449 --> 00:40:45.690 these babies, but also Jesus was against sin, so it's okay to be 534 00:40:45.809 --> 00:40:52.039 against abortion. So I've had responses like that. But I've had an amazing 535 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:57.960 team that God has really raised up in here and Roanoke of close friends of 536 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.159 mine and members of the Church that have really come along and assist me and, 537 00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:07.070 you know, raising contacting these churches, and I'm a young girl, 538 00:41:07.429 --> 00:41:10.550 so you know it's not appropriate for me to go meet with pastors by myself, 539 00:41:10.710 --> 00:41:15.269 but I've had this team come behind me and assist me and going to 540 00:41:15.389 --> 00:41:20.659 share the heart of love life and we've had an amazing response. We've had 541 00:41:20.739 --> 00:41:25.579 about eight churches that are partnered with us in roanoke that are praying with us 542 00:41:25.619 --> 00:41:31.260 and have adopted weeks and even further. I've gotten people from their churches connected 543 00:41:31.460 --> 00:41:37.489 through sidewalk counseling or life discipleship. People even interested in orphan care and, 544 00:41:38.369 --> 00:41:42.090 you know, people who have had abortions in their past who are able to 545 00:41:42.170 --> 00:41:45.809 receive healing and restoration, and then also those who are interested in leading those 546 00:41:45.849 --> 00:41:52.000 Bible Studies for these women. Yeah, wo how did you raise up the 547 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:58.519 teams? You said I appropriately God raised the teams, but you were used 548 00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.710 by God to help raise those teams. So I know that that's a huge 549 00:42:01.710 --> 00:42:07.389 challenge for anyone in in any city and can be a really daunting task. 550 00:42:07.110 --> 00:42:10.309 So how did how did that come about? When? Well did you play 551 00:42:10.550 --> 00:42:16.780 in developing teams? Yeah, well, when I moved to Roanoke I was 552 00:42:17.500 --> 00:42:21.619 pretty much, you know, as me and my husband, Eastmand, and 553 00:42:22.139 --> 00:42:24.219 everyone I knew was in Georgia and I was like man, how am I 554 00:42:24.340 --> 00:42:30.130 going to rally the Church when I don't really even know anyone but Eastman? 555 00:42:30.809 --> 00:42:34.889 You know, his family way is here in roanoake and I do have, 556 00:42:35.289 --> 00:42:37.889 you know, some of my best friends that live here. They're the ones 557 00:42:37.889 --> 00:42:44.599 who introduced me to Easton actually, and Easton's family and my best friends that 558 00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:49.039 live here have really been a vital part in this ministry and these are people 559 00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:52.920 that I already had strong relationships with and, you know, through this passion 560 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.719 that God has given me, I feel like he's stirred it up in their 561 00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.949 heart as well and they've been a vital part walking alongside of me and encouraging 562 00:43:01.070 --> 00:43:06.510 me, but they've also really kind of taken on this role of wanting to 563 00:43:06.630 --> 00:43:09.750 engage the church as well. So I feel like just through the passion that 564 00:43:09.869 --> 00:43:15.139 God gave me, he started stirring it up in other people, you know, 565 00:43:15.300 --> 00:43:19.900 as I took action. HMM. So you start, you started with 566 00:43:20.059 --> 00:43:23.460 what you already had, kind of and just and and God flamed fan that 567 00:43:23.619 --> 00:43:29.849 into flame and it expanded from there. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, well, 568 00:43:29.929 --> 00:43:35.489 your passion for the Lord and desire to serve him in this capacity was 569 00:43:35.610 --> 00:43:40.010 contagious in that that got on other people, got into other people, and 570 00:43:40.090 --> 00:43:44.119 I believe it's going to continue to spread. Their believe your team's going to 571 00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:49.960 continue to grow and and you're going to continue to get churches on board. 572 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.480 This is kind of the way this thing happens. Is really it's got to 573 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:57.510 start with somebody. Again, going back to the analogy of David. After 574 00:43:57.590 --> 00:44:00.829 David lopped off Golias head. He had to be a cat, a list 575 00:44:00.909 --> 00:44:02.550 for this thing. That's when the children of Israel came out of their caves 576 00:44:02.869 --> 00:44:07.909 and started running after the Philistines, you know, to basically run them out 577 00:44:07.949 --> 00:44:10.219 of the land. It's got it. You got to have somebody that steps 578 00:44:10.219 --> 00:44:15.139 out and to see a young lady like yourself step out and really be a 579 00:44:15.260 --> 00:44:20.699 catalyst for what I believe is going to be that culture of love and life 580 00:44:20.820 --> 00:44:24.610 in Rowanoe, Virginia and beyond really taking root, it's pretty encouraging and I 581 00:44:24.690 --> 00:44:30.690 think it's it challenging and encouraging for anybody who's listening. If there's this kind 582 00:44:30.730 --> 00:44:32.409 of mentality, it's like, I'm just one person, what can I do? 583 00:44:34.489 --> 00:44:37.690 Well, here you've got Jenna sharing. She just one person. What 584 00:44:37.849 --> 00:44:39.599 can she do? All she can do is obey God and step out where 585 00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:44.679 he's called her to and in God's going to do the work through her, 586 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:46.840 and he is, and he'll do the work through you. But you've got 587 00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:52.079 to step out, you've got to step out in faith. Yeah, we 588 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:53.469 don't have a whole lot of time left, Jenna, but what, what 589 00:44:53.630 --> 00:45:00.949 advice or encouragement would you give to people who maybe are like minded to you 590 00:45:00.190 --> 00:45:04.670 and and feel like, like Daniel said, I'm just one person. I 591 00:45:04.789 --> 00:45:07.460 don't know what to do. What, what possible difference could I make? 592 00:45:08.659 --> 00:45:14.019 What can you say to them as a young person who not only started in 593 00:45:14.139 --> 00:45:20.260 this new ministry but in a completely unfamiliar, well somewhat unfamiliar, New City 594 00:45:20.739 --> 00:45:24.010 with really little support? Yeah, well, I'd like to, you know, 595 00:45:24.130 --> 00:45:29.849 talk a little bit about my inspiration and it really comes from, you 596 00:45:29.929 --> 00:45:31.769 know, youth in the Bible that were just like me. But you're not 597 00:45:31.849 --> 00:45:37.320 David ner. Daniels talking about David, and he was this young guy, 598 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:43.920 and we're currently facing this modern day Goliath. So we do absolutely have to 599 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:49.159 have that boldness and courage when facing this giant. But I'm inspired by the 600 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:51.949 youth in the Bible that have set an example of faith. You know, 601 00:45:51.989 --> 00:45:54.989 there's David, s Sir Joseph, Timothy, Mary, Daniel and like. 602 00:45:55.150 --> 00:46:00.630 The list goes on of these young people who took bold action in obedience to 603 00:46:00.670 --> 00:46:05.260 Christ. Like David was only seventeen when he took on Goliath. Esther she 604 00:46:05.460 --> 00:46:09.219 was around fourteen years old when she became queen. Mary gave birth to the 605 00:46:09.260 --> 00:46:13.699 Son of God at Age Sixteen as a virgin and she had to have boldness 606 00:46:13.739 --> 00:46:16.340 to face judgment. And Joseph, who was sold by his brothers, you 607 00:46:16.420 --> 00:46:21.889 know, as a slave, that aged seventeen, but he worked towards, 608 00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:24.849 you know, everything that he did, and he prospered and eventually rose to 609 00:46:24.929 --> 00:46:29.730 second in command of Pharaoh. So you could see, like through each of 610 00:46:29.769 --> 00:46:32.880 their lives and their background, that God wasn't calling the equipped, he was 611 00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:38.519 calling those were that were willing and obedient. So really, the advice that 612 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:45.000 I would give is you can start living a life of obedient and righteousness right 613 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.789 now, like you don't have to wait until you're an adult. If you're 614 00:46:47.829 --> 00:46:52.309 the youth. God calls the youth and encourages us. We look to the 615 00:46:52.389 --> 00:46:55.190 example of First Timothy Four undred and twelve. We're told to set an example 616 00:46:55.590 --> 00:47:00.150 and speech, conduct, love, faith and impurity. So we can set 617 00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:05.460 that example through every task and every moment. You know, Colossians three through 618 00:47:05.659 --> 00:47:07.659 twenty three says, whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, 619 00:47:07.659 --> 00:47:12.860 as working for the Lord and not for Human Masters. Or strinthians one 620 00:47:12.900 --> 00:47:15.889 thousand and thirty one. Whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, 621 00:47:15.929 --> 00:47:20.449 do it all for the glory of God and some of the best advice that 622 00:47:20.610 --> 00:47:23.329 I've been given that I'd like to share, as well as to invest your 623 00:47:23.449 --> 00:47:28.570 time and things that last forever. And there's only two things that last forever, 624 00:47:28.889 --> 00:47:34.320 that's God's word and people. So my challenge would be start investing your 625 00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:38.119 time in the lives around you by being a witness of the Gospel of Christ. 626 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:45.869 Man. It's wonderful you could do next next week's podcast, which is 627 00:47:45.230 --> 00:47:51.510 possible, about this very subject. Great, great, great advice and encouragement. 628 00:47:51.670 --> 00:47:54.590 Yeah, yeah, well, I think it would be good if you 629 00:47:54.670 --> 00:48:00.059 wouldn't mind, Jenna, just kind of wrapping up this podcast for you, 630 00:48:00.219 --> 00:48:04.860 just to pray real quick for those who, young or old, that need 631 00:48:05.059 --> 00:48:08.780 boldness and that need to step out in faith and know that they need to 632 00:48:08.820 --> 00:48:13.210 step out in faith, and so we just lift them up in prayer. 633 00:48:13.250 --> 00:48:16.570 Yeah, absolutely, let's pray. Father, we just thank you so much 634 00:48:16.769 --> 00:48:21.130 for what you're doing in our lives. God, I look back at the 635 00:48:21.210 --> 00:48:23.530 past few years of my life and I see the intricate plan that you've set 636 00:48:23.809 --> 00:48:28.639 forth from me. You know, back in college, when I had no 637 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:32.000 idea what your plan was and I had my own route. You know, 638 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.599 I was coming into dental hygiene and you had different plans. Lord, you 639 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.079 set me apart and you called me to this ministry. And Lord, I 640 00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:45.429 know that there's other youth that are just like me, that have passions and 641 00:48:45.590 --> 00:48:49.469 that have a desire to serve you in every way that they can, Lord, 642 00:48:49.510 --> 00:48:52.710 so I pray that you would just raise up those labors of youth. 643 00:48:52.110 --> 00:48:54.550 Lord, we know that you can use the youth, and I pray that 644 00:48:54.590 --> 00:49:00.820 you would help us to set an example. You know, portion is affecting 645 00:49:00.900 --> 00:49:05.539 our lives. This is our generation and we have a responsibility, that obligation, 646 00:49:05.699 --> 00:49:07.460 to do something about it. So I pray that you would raise up 647 00:49:07.460 --> 00:49:10.849 the youth. Lord, help us to be full of boldness and full of 648 00:49:12.130 --> 00:49:15.170 courage so that we can stand in the gap for these unborn children. Lord, 649 00:49:15.489 --> 00:49:19.409 help us to be a witness. We love you in Jesus name. 650 00:49:19.650 --> 00:49:23.599 Amen. Hey Man, Amen. Thank you, Jenna. Thank you, 651 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.960 guys, and that was that was a blessing, that was an encouragement. 652 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:31.119 Yes, and we hope that you guys listening aren't courage where hope, we 653 00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:37.440 hope that you're challenged is well, to step out in faith and just to 654 00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.030 know that God is stepping out with you. So if this podcast was a 655 00:49:42.070 --> 00:49:45.070 blessing to you, please leave us a review and again reach out if you 656 00:49:45.150 --> 00:49:49.429 have any suggestions for future episodes that we can cover. That would be a 657 00:49:49.469 --> 00:49:52.019 blessing and encouragement to you. You can reach me at Danuel at Love Life 658 00:49:52.099 --> 00:49:55.820 Dot Org. You can reach Vicki at Vicki I love life dot Org. 659 00:49:57.179 --> 00:50:00.340 And if you want to reach out and encourage Jenna or maybe even support the 660 00:50:00.420 --> 00:50:04.739 ministry there in Rowanoke, if you're close to Rowan Oken you want to support 661 00:50:04.780 --> 00:50:08.050 a local ministry that's having impact, you can reach out to her, Jenna 662 00:50:08.289 --> 00:50:12.090 at Love Life Dot Org, and I'm sure she can send along a link 663 00:50:12.530 --> 00:50:15.929 if you want to support her front financially or support her support her, sorry, 664 00:50:16.050 --> 00:50:19.730 in prayer. I'm sure that would be a blessing to her as well. 665 00:50:20.010 --> 00:50:22.920 That's Jenna with one end. Yeah, just so that you know, 666 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:28.239 I always have spelled it incorrectly. It's one end, KNA. Yeah, 667 00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:32.079 that's right. So if feel free to reach out and until next time, 668 00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:45.070 God bless, God bless. Give me our love for love, give me 669 00:50:45.829 --> 00:50:58.059 our love for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's 670 00:50:58.219 --> 00:51:00.820 too precious in some you