She’s Young But Reaches Out in Boldness

WEBVTT100:00:00.840 --> 00:00:06.040I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. S and me,200:00:06.400 --> 00:00:11.630Lord, I am yours, Iam yours. I'm welcome to the300:00:11.669 --> 00:00:17.589Gospel Center Pray Life Podcast, apodcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge400:00:17.629 --> 00:00:21.230you in pray life ministry, andalways with a focus on the Gospel.500:00:21.429 --> 00:00:32.340Stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Me,600:00:32.539 --> 00:00:38.530Lord. Welcome back to the Gospelcentered pray life podcast. Appreciate you guys700:00:38.570 --> 00:00:44.450joining us and we'd appreciate if youguys would share this podcast episode. We800:00:44.490 --> 00:00:48.009would appreciate if you guys would justshare this podcast in general with your friends,900:00:48.130 --> 00:00:51.200people that would be encouraged and blessedby this podcast. The focus of1000:00:51.320 --> 00:00:56.560this podcast is the Gospel. Wewant to bring the Gospel to places of1100:00:56.560 --> 00:01:00.600darkness and in particular, and ProLife Ministry, on the sidewalks at abortion1200:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.549centers. That's the main focus ofthis podcast. We talked about other things1300:01:03.629 --> 00:01:07.790from time to time, but reallythe focus is bringing the Gospel to the1400:01:07.909 --> 00:01:14.709abortion centers where the Gospel is needed. And we just did an episode that1500:01:14.909 --> 00:01:19.500came out well today. Because werecord these things, we can in advance,1600:01:19.340 --> 00:01:23.659but for you guys, it willbe last Thursday. That was about1700:01:23.659 --> 00:01:27.340boldness and I was blessed by it. Actually, just as we went through1800:01:27.340 --> 00:01:32.739the different scriptures, Vicki, andas we just talked about how God,1900:01:32.930 --> 00:01:37.409by his Holy Spirit, filled theapostles with boldness. Right, they spoke2000:01:37.450 --> 00:01:40.489the word of God with boldness,and I hope it was a blessing for2100:01:40.569 --> 00:01:42.370those of you who listened. Ihope it wasn't a Blo I hope it2200:01:42.489 --> 00:01:47.840was a blessing and encouragement to youthat you can be bold, not because2300:01:48.040 --> 00:01:49.319of how great you are, butbecause of the one who's in you,2400:01:49.439 --> 00:01:56.319the Holy Spirit, and he canbe bold through you. So please share2500:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.599that episode and, as always,we encourage you to reach out and give2600:02:00.640 --> 00:02:04.030us some topics that you think wouldbe a blessing, that maybe you have2700:02:04.150 --> 00:02:07.909questions, things like that. Wecover stuff like boldness, like how to2800:02:07.989 --> 00:02:10.310be bold, how to operate inboldness. We also cover practical stuff,2900:02:12.030 --> 00:02:15.819like what to do when an ambulanceshows up at the abortion center. Like,3000:02:15.060 --> 00:02:20.340who does a podcast about that?Well, we do. Are Unique.3100:02:20.379 --> 00:02:24.979Yeah, yeah, when. Butbut that boldness topic was actually be3200:02:25.099 --> 00:02:29.819thought of it because of our gueststoday, right. Yeah, thought of3300:02:29.860 --> 00:02:37.530it because of Jenna, because she'syoung and bold and I'm working with many3400:02:37.770 --> 00:02:43.490new counselors right now, also young, and there are varying degrees of boldness3500:02:43.770 --> 00:02:47.159in them, and that's what kindof sparked that one and then led to3600:02:47.800 --> 00:02:52.960this podcast. Yeah, Les,we want to know what's her secret,3700:02:53.000 --> 00:02:57.080right, right, Daniel h yeah, this is kind of like a part3800:02:57.159 --> 00:03:00.990two of that previous pot. Itis like how can this manifest? Yeah,3900:03:00.030 --> 00:03:04.990we gave you some scripture and somescriptural examples and some experiences that we've4000:03:05.030 --> 00:03:09.830had, but we wanted to bringJenna on because she's a bold young lady,4100:03:09.949 --> 00:03:16.580but she's also she's humble. Shewalks in humility. She's walking with4200:03:16.659 --> 00:03:21.939the Lord, of course, andit's obvious that God is moving through her4300:03:21.979 --> 00:03:23.379and working through her. So wethought that we would get her to share4400:03:23.379 --> 00:03:28.289her story with you guys, maybeshare what the Lord has taught her of4500:03:28.490 --> 00:03:31.370how to walk in boldness. She'son the sidewalks, she's engaging people,4600:03:31.490 --> 00:03:36.650but even beyond that, like she'sengaging pastors, getting pastors to come out4700:03:36.689 --> 00:03:39.090and if you know anything about lovelife, we try to get churches to4800:03:39.129 --> 00:03:43.960adopt a week and ultimately do aprayer walk at the abortion center. She's4900:03:44.000 --> 00:03:46.840asking pastors to do that, pastorswho've not really done anything about abortion.5000:03:47.520 --> 00:03:52.120She's getting them to come out anddo a prayer walk at an abortion center,5100:03:52.159 --> 00:03:57.669which is really a difficult task.And so obviously she's got some boldness,5200:03:58.229 --> 00:04:00.509but I think she would recognize,and we'll get her to share here5300:04:00.550 --> 00:04:04.629in just a second, that it'sthe Lord working through her. So anyway,5400:04:04.669 --> 00:04:08.310we wanted to bring Jenna on.I hope this will be an encouragement5500:04:08.349 --> 00:04:13.099to you guys. So yeah,so Jenna, just introduce yourself a little5600:04:13.099 --> 00:04:15.420bit, kind of where you serveat and we'll kind of get into your5700:04:15.459 --> 00:04:19.980background and the different things that wewe think would help encourage others. Yeah,5800:04:20.100 --> 00:04:24.529Hey, guys. So my nameis Jenna. I'm a sidewalk missionary5900:04:24.689 --> 00:04:29.290and Rona, Virginia and I'm twentyone years old. I've been married for6000:04:29.649 --> 00:04:32.410a little bit over a year nowto my wonderful husband, Eastman, and6100:04:32.769 --> 00:04:35.970he's here. He's from here,Roona, Virginia, but I was actually6200:04:36.009 --> 00:04:42.160born and raised in Woodstock, Georgia. Okay, yeah, so your southern6300:04:42.279 --> 00:04:46.519girl I am. Yeah, that'sprobably where the boldness comes from. Actually6400:04:46.839 --> 00:04:51.759married twenty one years old, Imean when I met her, I'm sixty6500:04:51.870 --> 00:04:58.310five and I'm thinking, Wow,they just keep getting younger and how is6600:04:58.509 --> 00:05:01.670she gonna do? Because this isthis is really I mean the sidewalk missionary6700:05:01.750 --> 00:05:09.899in a new city, a bigand very in many ways intimidating position to6800:05:10.100 --> 00:05:16.579to be in. So so wewere all very pleasantly surprised by how you6900:05:16.819 --> 00:05:23.449just really took the bull by thehorns and and did what what you needed7000:05:23.490 --> 00:05:27.209to do out there with with boldness, integrity and, like Daniel said,7100:05:27.250 --> 00:05:30.290a lot of humility. Yep.But yeah, I'm very Y. I7200:05:30.490 --> 00:05:33.370did talk with you a little bitat at when we first met you,7300:05:33.569 --> 00:05:38.040and I knew a little bit aboutyour background, but can you kind of7400:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.720fill us in a little bit about, you know, your family, your7500:05:43.800 --> 00:05:46.959upbringing, when when you came tothe Lord and you know, things like7600:05:47.120 --> 00:05:51.389that. Yeah, absolutely. So. I'm actually the youngest of five children7700:05:51.550 --> 00:05:56.269to my amazing parents, Jean andJamie, and I was really kind of7800:05:56.430 --> 00:06:00.990raised in the church and I alsogrew up going to a private Christian school.7900:06:00.990 --> 00:06:04.420So faith and Christianity, you know, those were never foreign terms to8000:06:04.540 --> 00:06:10.620me and my parents taught preschool inour church. They've taught for over fifteen8100:06:10.699 --> 00:06:15.699years. So I feel like itwas through my family and through other believers8200:06:15.819 --> 00:06:20.569influence that really drew me to Christat such a young age, because I8300:06:20.610 --> 00:06:25.089saw the way that they lived theirlives and I just remember thinking like man,8400:06:25.170 --> 00:06:29.329I want that. So I gavemy life to Christ at five years8500:06:29.329 --> 00:06:33.399old and I was baptized and,you know, growing up in the faith,8600:06:33.480 --> 00:06:39.360I feel like God really gave mea heart for people that were seen8700:06:39.399 --> 00:06:44.399as less than people who were maybestruggling in life, and serving others has8800:06:44.439 --> 00:06:47.670just really become a part of myheart and something that I desired to do,8900:06:48.509 --> 00:06:54.550and God has always really revealed himselfto me through the way that Jesus9000:06:55.069 --> 00:06:58.350reached out to, you know,what we would call the least of these.9100:06:58.509 --> 00:07:01.379Yeah, yeah, so there wasnever really a time in your life9200:07:01.420 --> 00:07:06.579that you remember that you were notwalking with the Lord. Yeah, I'm9300:07:06.660 --> 00:07:10.819mad, is have Jesus was always, you know, a big part of9400:07:10.860 --> 00:07:15.500my life and you know, eventhrough holidays or just you know regular every9500:07:15.970 --> 00:07:18.329every day of the week, itwas a big discussion in our house and9600:07:20.209 --> 00:07:24.490that had I had to develop myown faith, not just my families,9700:07:24.529 --> 00:07:27.610and that was a challenge for me, but coming to look know the Lord9800:07:27.689 --> 00:07:30.920on my own, through the influenceof my family and through strong believers.9900:07:32.360 --> 00:07:36.480HMM. Yeah, so talked alittle bit about I know you've already shared10000:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.839a little bit, but when youcame to know the Lord, what was10100:07:41.079 --> 00:07:46.430what was the context there, andjust kind of the impact that the Lord10200:07:46.470 --> 00:07:48.790kind of you had immediately on yourlife, coming from being raised in a10300:07:48.829 --> 00:07:57.790Christian home and having a faith thatsaturated the home, but then embracing Jesus10400:07:57.870 --> 00:08:00.339as your Lord and Savior. Kindof talk about that a little bit.10500:08:00.899 --> 00:08:05.220Yeah, so, I mean growingup I had great influences through not only10600:08:05.259 --> 00:08:09.779my parents but my siblings, andI saw them walking in the Lord and10700:08:09.379 --> 00:08:15.850I think that's really what encouraged meto get to know this Jesus more.10800:08:16.490 --> 00:08:20.689And, you know, growing upbeing in the church, you know every10900:08:20.769 --> 00:08:24.850Sunday, every Wednesday, and beingin a Christian school, that topic of11000:08:26.170 --> 00:08:30.079Jesus and what he did for uson the Cross was very prevalent. But11100:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.039I had to determine for myself whatI believed and why I believed that,11200:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.509and just through reading God's word,he really revealed himself to me and I11300:08:41.549 --> 00:08:46.029feel like he showed me so muchgrace by revealing himself to me at such11400:08:46.070 --> 00:08:50.830a young age that I was ableto give my life to Christ at five11500:08:50.870 --> 00:08:54.269years old, which, of course, I didn't know everything about the Gospel,11600:08:54.470 --> 00:09:00.500nor will I ever, but he'scontinuing to reveal himself to me as11700:09:00.620 --> 00:09:05.860I grow in the faith. Yeah, so it age five, you know,11800:09:07.019 --> 00:09:13.090there's got to be just a very, very cursory understanding of sin and11900:09:13.570 --> 00:09:18.490and just all of the other,you know, major biblical concepts would as12000:09:18.570 --> 00:09:22.490you got older. Were you justbuilding on that or was there a period12100:09:22.529 --> 00:09:26.440where you really thought, I'm notsure any of this is true and you12200:09:26.559 --> 00:09:30.080had to kind of go and reexamine it? I would say, you12300:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.600know, there's always doubts, alwaysquestions that I've had in my mind,12400:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.559but my dad would explain to youthat he's always seen me as a very12500:09:37.590 --> 00:09:41.990black and white person, the waythat I view things, and I think12600:09:41.029 --> 00:09:46.029that's because of my foundation on scripture. He often shares an example of one12700:09:46.070 --> 00:09:50.590time when we were at a rollerskating rink and I was, you know,12800:09:50.750 --> 00:09:54.460going around the rink and the announcersaid, all right, it's time12900:09:54.460 --> 00:09:56.299to get off the you know,off the floor, and immediately. He13000:09:56.460 --> 00:10:00.580said I'd be lined it all theway from the oppossite side all the way13100:10:00.620 --> 00:10:03.139over to where he was, andI got off and I looked behind me13200:10:03.220 --> 00:10:05.100and I was like, why arethey not listening? Why is everyone still13300:10:05.100 --> 00:10:09.769going around the rink? So Ifeel like that's a good example of how13400:10:09.049 --> 00:10:13.490God has really given me that blackand white view of scripture and, you13500:10:13.610 --> 00:10:22.080know, life versus or evil versusgood. Right. Yeah, yeah,13600:10:22.480 --> 00:10:28.120if I forget to ask later,it may not be the right point now13700:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.440to ask, but I want youto kind of keep in your mind if13800:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.629you've ever been challenged by someone sayingyou always knew God, you always knew13900:10:35.629 --> 00:10:41.110right from wrong, you had anincredibly supportive family who always guided you and14000:10:41.230 --> 00:10:48.230right from wrong, you can't possiblyunderstand where I'm coming from, because I14100:10:48.350 --> 00:10:54.740know I have heard that to otheryoung people raised in the faith from a14200:10:54.899 --> 00:11:00.500a very hurting, wounded population,which are most of the women that are14300:11:00.539 --> 00:11:03.139going to be entering an abortion centerright so I don't know if we want14400:11:03.139 --> 00:11:07.250to answer that right now or ifyou want to think about that and we'll14500:11:07.490 --> 00:11:11.690touch on that later, maybe inthis in this chat. Yeah, I14600:11:11.809 --> 00:11:20.159mean I'll answer that myself for youare you didn't have that stainless background,14700:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.519did you, Dan? Yeah,not really. What the Bible says of14800:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.440itself like if you have. Thisis Paul speaking to Timothy, talking about14900:11:26.440 --> 00:11:28.919the word of God. Yeah,that, if you've got the word of15000:11:28.960 --> 00:11:33.509God, I'm paraphrasing, then you'rethoroughly equipped for every good work. Like15100:11:35.429 --> 00:11:37.269you know, personally, I've neverbeen a woman, never been pregnant,15200:11:37.350 --> 00:11:41.509and so I've had the accusation getsme. How do you know? You15300:11:41.549 --> 00:11:43.549don't know what it is to bepregnant, you don't know it is to15400:11:43.549 --> 00:11:46.139be a woman. Who are youto talk to me? Well, I'm15500:11:46.220 --> 00:11:48.779someone that loves you and cares aboutyou, and though I don't have all15600:11:48.820 --> 00:11:54.100of your life experiences, no onedoes. No one has everybody's life experiences.15700:11:54.220 --> 00:11:58.580You know, you could. Youcould come from a horrible background and15800:11:58.659 --> 00:12:01.610not be the same ethnicity as somebodyin you. Of course, don't know.15900:12:03.289 --> 00:12:05.330They're cir their circumstances, of theirsituations, but what you do know16000:12:07.169 --> 00:12:11.490is you know truth, and ifyou know truth, then you've ultimately got16100:12:11.610 --> 00:12:15.009what people need right they need andencounter with the truth. The one who16200:12:15.009 --> 00:12:18.799is the truth, Jesus, himself. So I'm answering that for Jenna,16300:12:18.960 --> 00:12:22.000although we can let her answer thatlater on if she I think that's a16400:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.639that's a great answer. I thinkwhat I'm hearing, and have always heard,16500:12:26.840 --> 00:12:31.509is that she has truth and shehas always had that in her background16600:12:31.509 --> 00:12:37.350and that is powerful and attractive.Yeah, and people will seek after that.16700:12:37.710 --> 00:12:43.190So tell us about what brought youto sidewachman ministry, because that's you16800:12:43.230 --> 00:12:46.700said. You always felt you wantedto help others, kind of that that16900:12:46.899 --> 00:12:52.740was your model that you saw inJesus. This is a very difficult ministry17000:12:54.299 --> 00:12:58.850and not a popular one and really, in many ways unknown, and I17100:13:00.049 --> 00:13:03.009didn't know about it. I'd beena Christian for thirty years before I have17200:13:03.090 --> 00:13:05.409heard knew that people did this.So here you are, aged twenty one17300:13:05.490 --> 00:13:09.929and you chose to devote your lifeto it. What made you, or17400:13:09.970 --> 00:13:13.679at least your life right now,out to that? So what brought you17500:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.120here? Yeah, well, Godis, you know, he's very detailed17600:13:18.159 --> 00:13:22.840and very intricate with his plans.So it is amazing how I got where17700:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.840I am today. And you know, being raised in the church, being17800:13:26.039 --> 00:13:31.190pro life is kind of in theDNA and the fingerprints of being a Christian.17900:13:31.669 --> 00:13:35.470But it wasn't until my freshman yearof college where I was truly exposed18000:13:35.509 --> 00:13:41.460to the, you know, atrocityof abortion. So I was going to18100:13:41.539 --> 00:13:46.179community college in Georgia for a degreeand dental hygiene and I was just taking18200:13:46.220 --> 00:13:50.980my core classes, one of which, one of which was American government and18300:13:52.460 --> 00:13:56.769what my professor one day decided tobring up the topic of abortion and she18400:13:56.850 --> 00:14:01.090allowed us to have kind of adiscussion about it, but it ended up18500:14:01.169 --> 00:14:05.169not being much of a discussion.It was actually very much one sided in18600:14:05.289 --> 00:14:11.399favor of abortion, and honestly,I can just remember sitting there that day18700:14:11.320 --> 00:14:16.919and my body was physically shaking andI was almost just angry that my generation18800:14:18.120 --> 00:14:22.960had been so deceived to believe thatabortion was okay. And I wasn't prepared18900:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.830that day to be a voice forthe voiceless. I didn't know what to19000:14:26.909 --> 00:14:31.549say, but I was motivated todo something further. So right after class19100:14:31.590 --> 00:14:35.309that day, I actually went upto my professor and I just started telling19200:14:35.389 --> 00:14:41.259her what I thought about abortion.And it turns out she was pro life19300:14:41.419 --> 00:14:45.740and a Christian, and not onlythat, but she had been praying for19400:14:45.940 --> 00:14:50.139God to raise up a student oncampus that could help her start a pro19500:14:50.299 --> 00:14:54.009life club at the school. Sotogether, me and her, you know,19600:14:54.090 --> 00:14:58.330we got connected with students for lifeand we watched this club on campus19700:14:58.769 --> 00:15:03.769to really just educate students on abortionand then also to help expecting moms,19800:15:03.809 --> 00:15:09.320and we would do, you know, occasional sidewalk outreach. And then it19900:15:09.519 --> 00:15:16.799wasn't too long before covid hit andcaught wind and it, you know,20000:15:16.000 --> 00:15:20.240closed the school campus and I waslaid off my job and I was just20100:15:20.360 --> 00:15:26.029stuck at home and didn't know whatto do with my time. So during20200:15:26.110 --> 00:15:30.070this time I was engaged and Iwas planning to move to Virginia after the20300:15:30.149 --> 00:15:35.230wedding and I didn't really want toinvest in this school club that I wasn't20400:15:35.230 --> 00:15:37.220going to, you know, bea part of anymore once I moved.20500:15:39.460 --> 00:15:43.179But I still wanted to be involvedin pro life work. So what I20600:15:43.340 --> 00:15:48.299started to do was outreach through socialmedia, on instagram and facebook, because20700:15:48.340 --> 00:15:50.809that was really the only place atthat time that I could have a voice.20800:15:52.450 --> 00:15:54.610So I was just writing posts about, you know, how would you20900:15:54.649 --> 00:15:58.649respond to typical pro abortion arguments,so that I could share it with my21000:15:58.769 --> 00:16:06.480followers and educate people. And thenover that summer a friend of my husband's21100:16:06.519 --> 00:16:10.519actually saw my social media post,and this is kind of some of the21200:16:10.559 --> 00:16:15.039intricate details of the whole story,but he was staying with Josh Cappis Love21300:16:15.159 --> 00:16:22.110Life Cope or, you know,Co President or vice president, and yeah,21400:16:22.629 --> 00:16:26.429he was telling Josh about some ofmy posts and this was really at21500:16:26.509 --> 00:16:32.549the time when love life was expandingfrom Charlotte all the way through love life21600:16:32.590 --> 00:16:37.019America. So I got in contactwith Josh and we started having zoom meetings21700:16:37.139 --> 00:16:41.779and I was invited to training withyou, Vicky and Daniel. So I21800:16:41.059 --> 00:16:45.019attended that training and I think itwas August of two thousand and twenty and21900:16:48.009 --> 00:16:51.970you know, I was commissioned asa sidewalk missionary and went off to Rona,22000:16:52.049 --> 00:16:55.649Virginia, and that's where kind ofthis ministry began. So, as22100:16:55.730 --> 00:16:59.049you can see, you know,God is really in the details and has22200:16:59.129 --> 00:17:03.759guided me to where I am rightnow. Yeah, that's an amazing story22300:17:03.960 --> 00:17:07.920and this is like a little pointthat you made early on, but I22400:17:07.119 --> 00:17:12.279am dying to know so that youyou were in a class with a professor22500:17:12.839 --> 00:17:21.910who communicated a what was really thepro abortion side and unless time it's understood.22600:17:21.950 --> 00:17:25.589You. She actually went down andtalked to her and she was actually22700:17:25.670 --> 00:17:30.940prolife. Yeah, so what shehad communicated that day was just that we22800:17:30.059 --> 00:17:33.700were going to be talking about abortion, but she wasn't doing much of the22900:17:33.740 --> 00:17:38.619talking. It was the student whowere having a conversation in class. So23000:17:38.980 --> 00:17:42.660it was really all these pro abortionstudents, people that were my age,23100:17:44.099 --> 00:17:47.490that were, you know, forabortion, and I was the only person23200:17:47.529 --> 00:17:52.609in class that day that was againstabortion and I didn't know much to say,23300:17:52.730 --> 00:17:56.410but I do remember bringing up thefact that life begins its conception and23400:17:56.569 --> 00:18:00.319talking about all the human DNA,you know, that unique, never to23500:18:00.440 --> 00:18:04.240be made again, human DNA,and that was the only thing that I23600:18:04.359 --> 00:18:08.680could think of that day to talkabout and you know, that has motivated23700:18:08.839 --> 00:18:12.750me to be more prepared so thatI can have those conversations with people.23800:18:14.869 --> 00:18:18.910Yeah, it also was a scenariothat is not unlike what you faced on23900:18:18.990 --> 00:18:22.309the sidewalk. You are you areusually one voice in a sea of opposition.24000:18:22.829 --> 00:18:27.700And and so the personality type,I think, that thrives in that24100:18:29.059 --> 00:18:34.619kind of a mission or ministry issomeone who is bold enough to not shrink24200:18:34.779 --> 00:18:41.650back from the fact that you're oneof very few that are, you know,24300:18:41.890 --> 00:18:45.930trying to speak what you believe isright and true. Yeah, that's24400:18:47.089 --> 00:18:51.250so, that's that's pretty amazing.God really was that to you know,24500:18:51.450 --> 00:18:55.720speaks to situations where, you know, because we can lack confidence and we24600:18:55.799 --> 00:19:00.799can lack boldness and we can evenshy away from putting ourselves in situations where24700:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.880we're going to be put on thespot. And I don't think that day24800:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.359that you knew you're going to beput on the spot in that way,24900:19:07.240 --> 00:19:11.269but you did know, going intoa university or to a college campus,25000:19:11.470 --> 00:19:15.150that it was going to be sortof a hostile environment, right. Yeah,25100:19:15.269 --> 00:19:18.869and as believers in Jesus, we'vegot to be willing to put ourselves25200:19:18.869 --> 00:19:22.950in hostile environments because what often timesthe Lord will do in those environments is,25300:19:23.299 --> 00:19:27.779like you said, use that tospur us on to dig deeper and25400:19:27.900 --> 00:19:32.539to figure out. Okay, Idon't know how to combat these arguments right25500:19:32.579 --> 00:19:36.099now, but I'm going to findout. And I would say the same25600:19:36.140 --> 00:19:38.410way as far as the sidewalks areconcerned, I get a lot of questions25700:19:38.450 --> 00:19:41.210from people who say, you know, I don't want to go out there25800:19:41.289 --> 00:19:45.130because I don't know what to say. I don't know how to respond when25900:19:45.210 --> 00:19:49.609someone says this or says that,and we we do podcast episodes to help26000:19:49.650 --> 00:19:52.119you know how to respond. Sowe've taken care of that for you.26100:19:52.400 --> 00:19:56.480But the fact is we can neverdo enough episodes to tell you how to26200:19:56.519 --> 00:20:02.240respond in every situation. You've gotto just go out there, put yourself26300:20:02.359 --> 00:20:07.000on the line in the sense putyourself in an uncomfortable situation, and God26400:20:07.150 --> 00:20:10.349would like. We promise, Godwill grow you and ways in your walk26500:20:10.430 --> 00:20:12.190with God. If you go outthere on that sidewalk, you will grow26600:20:12.269 --> 00:20:15.470in ways that you will not growotherwise, and I think that's what you've26700:20:15.829 --> 00:20:19.390discovered, even in that setting,but also being out on the sidewalk.26800:20:19.990 --> 00:20:22.619Am I right about that? Yeah, definitely. You know, you grow26900:20:22.619 --> 00:20:26.660up and if you grow up inthe church, you kind of grow up27000:20:26.660 --> 00:20:30.619in what people call the Christian bubble. Yes, and going to college,27100:20:30.619 --> 00:20:33.980university be that wasn't, you know, faith based. It was kind of27200:20:34.019 --> 00:20:40.049a culture shock for me to seethat there are actually different opinions. So27300:20:40.210 --> 00:20:45.529it is important that we're preparing ourselves, you know, for needing to respond27400:20:45.849 --> 00:20:51.599to those other opinions and showing themthe Gospel through it. Yeah, throughout27500:20:51.599 --> 00:20:53.799that semester, were you able togo back to those students, to that27600:20:55.000 --> 00:21:00.240class, and slowly begin to giveyour point of view and challenge their worldview?27700:21:00.240 --> 00:21:04.750Yeah, great questions. So Iactually did go back to that class27800:21:04.990 --> 00:21:10.750and that same professor who helped mestart the pro life club, she invited27900:21:10.829 --> 00:21:14.509me to come share about, youknow, our club that we had started28000:21:15.069 --> 00:21:17.950and to share a little bit aboutabortion. So I was able to go28100:21:18.150 --> 00:21:21.819back and share the truth that Ihad learned. So that was an amazing28200:21:21.859 --> 00:21:26.900opportunity to be able to respond.Yeah, that's great. Yeah, I28300:21:27.019 --> 00:21:30.259was going to ask what are someof the things that you did to help28400:21:30.339 --> 00:21:34.089equip yourself? You know, you'rein that situation you leave with, you28500:21:34.210 --> 00:21:40.130know, barely being able to answer, at least not having a good framework28600:21:40.210 --> 00:21:42.210for answering these things. Is hereyou are exposed to a whole classroom for28700:21:42.289 --> 00:21:45.769the pro abortion people. What didyou do? What did you go online28800:21:45.809 --> 00:21:49.799and sort some websites and get someinformation and things like that? Yeah,28900:21:49.920 --> 00:21:53.400so right after that day, Imean I was fired up, like God29000:21:53.519 --> 00:22:00.799was really breaking my heart that dayand I was just so motivated to educate29100:22:00.920 --> 00:22:06.589myself. So I went home andimmediately I just started watching Youtube video after29200:22:06.670 --> 00:22:12.789Youtube video of people responding to proabortion arguments and learning what the best way29300:22:12.829 --> 00:22:19.900to communicate with someone would be andhow to use scripture to guide those conversations.29400:22:22.500 --> 00:22:25.500And so, in a sense,as always like to use a we29500:22:25.619 --> 00:22:30.210talked about boldness and stepping out theanalogy of David, David and Goliath,29600:22:30.289 --> 00:22:33.410in a sense, like Goliath wasin that classroom that day, this this29700:22:33.730 --> 00:22:40.250big culture of death thing, mockingGod, mocking the truth of God,29800:22:41.049 --> 00:22:45.160and you went and guts five smoothstones to take the life down right.29900:22:45.200 --> 00:22:49.359Yeah, that's kind of what happened. That's that's good. I think it's30000:22:49.480 --> 00:22:57.279just so astonishing how sometimes there aresingle pivotal moments in life that really are30100:22:57.990 --> 00:23:02.309they truly do change the trajectory ofour life, and it sounds like that30200:23:02.390 --> 00:23:10.230that classroom situation was was one ofthose. And and how how wonderful of30300:23:10.349 --> 00:23:14.700God to point you not only throughthat experience, but then to point you30400:23:14.740 --> 00:23:18.019to josh and to be able tofind out, hey, there is a30500:23:18.099 --> 00:23:22.660place where I can do what Godhas now raised a passion in me to30600:23:22.740 --> 00:23:27.450do. Absolutely so. Yeah,and to see that plan through the through30700:23:27.569 --> 00:23:32.690this school reveal itself to me.You know, if anyone knows me,30800:23:33.130 --> 00:23:37.289I had mentioned I was in goingto school for dental hygiene. But if30900:23:37.329 --> 00:23:41.119anyone knows me, like I amnot into other people's dental hygiene. So31000:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.279it was very bizarre that I waseven going to school for that in the31100:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.359first place. But that was theonly college in my area that offered a31200:23:49.000 --> 00:23:53.240degree and m a hygiene. Soit was God guiding me there specifically for31300:23:53.400 --> 00:24:00.069that moment to break my heart forabortion. Yeah, amazing, that's pretty31400:24:00.269 --> 00:24:04.430that's pretty cool. And then justseeing how the Lord made that connection with31500:24:04.710 --> 00:24:08.670ultimately with love life and, youknow, just at really the right time.31600:24:11.619 --> 00:24:17.660That was pretty cool. So yourfiance's friend was staying with Josh because31700:24:18.059 --> 00:24:21.099he knew Josh's family or something.I can't remember, like you, I31800:24:21.140 --> 00:24:23.769think. Is that an internship someway or something like that? And when31900:24:23.809 --> 00:24:30.049he's internship of Chickfula, staying withJosh and his basement and heard about this32000:24:30.210 --> 00:24:33.970love life thing and kind of USexpanding and hey, here's a here's a32100:24:34.009 --> 00:24:38.039girl that I know who might beinterested in this. You end up coming32200:24:38.119 --> 00:24:41.960a boot camp, which I knowthat was a step of faith as well.32300:24:41.880 --> 00:24:48.039And and then really, once youhit the ground in Rowano, he32400:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.680really hit the ground run. Ithas been just such a blessing for us32500:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.029to see so rewarding. I don'tknow about for you, Vicky, but32600:24:56.349 --> 00:25:00.069it's for me to see we've sownsome some principles and some truth into people32700:25:00.109 --> 00:25:03.869and just to see those seeds thatwe've sold take root. It's really rewarding.32800:25:04.190 --> 00:25:10.819It really is, and I wouldlove to hear from your perspective it.32900:25:10.980 --> 00:25:14.299You're still pretty new at this,I guess it has it been a33000:25:14.460 --> 00:25:18.380year of year that all over,a year to yeah, think back when33100:25:18.420 --> 00:25:22.170you started here. You are noone else, is that there right,33200:25:22.289 --> 00:25:26.650this is you starting a ministry ata at an abortion center in your city.33300:25:30.089 --> 00:25:34.650How did you feel? What werethe challenges? Did you feel this33400:25:34.799 --> 00:25:40.880boldness and confidence that we see inyou as you step out on that sidewalk33500:25:40.920 --> 00:25:45.000or step in front of pastors?So kind of talk us through those those33600:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.039first days, what you were feelingas a young person this this new,33700:25:48.240 --> 00:25:56.430challenging time in your life. Andand you know, where did you go33800:25:56.589 --> 00:26:00.309from there? Yeah, so whenwe first got out to the clinic,33900:26:00.349 --> 00:26:06.059I hadn't done much sidewalk counseling beforelove life. I had, you know,34000:26:06.220 --> 00:26:08.259gone out to an abortion clinic afew times and maybe held a sign34100:26:08.299 --> 00:26:14.819and prayed, but I hadn't communicatedwith anyone who was abortion minded. So34200:26:15.420 --> 00:26:19.450I was very overwhelmed when first goingout. But I remember the first time34300:26:19.529 --> 00:26:25.490my husband came with me to playparenthood in Roanoak and the first three women34400:26:25.609 --> 00:26:30.329that came in stopped and took resourcesand I just couldn't believe it. And34500:26:30.609 --> 00:26:34.119while there's challenges to being young,I feel like there's also different benefits as34600:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.079well. I feel like God hasreally put favor on me as far as34700:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.759being able to communicate with these women. You know, they see a young34800:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.200girl and I think it makes meapproachable. But you know, like you34900:26:45.279 --> 00:26:49.589said, there's also those challenges aswell. There's been times where I'm not35000:26:49.789 --> 00:26:53.630taken seriously and I've been called,you know, referred to as a little35100:26:53.710 --> 00:26:56.710girl, or that I'm ignorant anddon't know, you know, don't know35200:26:56.750 --> 00:27:02.140what I'm talking about or I don'tunderstand. And I've been asked several times35300:27:02.259 --> 00:27:06.180myself if you know I was evena mom, because I couldn't understand what35400:27:06.220 --> 00:27:08.339they're going through, which, youknow, it doesn't take being a mom35500:27:08.460 --> 00:27:14.539or an older adult to understand thatGod has placed value on life and that35600:27:14.660 --> 00:27:18.490he cares for the unborn. Soyeah, there's definitely that benefit and that35700:27:18.410 --> 00:27:22.329benefit of being young, but there'sa challenge as well, and I know35800:27:22.529 --> 00:27:26.490that I had a lot of doubtsgoing into this Ministry of, you know,35900:27:26.730 --> 00:27:30.920just asking God like why me,like why would God pick me?36000:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.119You know, at this when Iwas first starting with love life, I36100:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.240was nineteen years old. Wow.So I was like, why me,36200:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.400when there's so many other adults thatare more wise than me or more equipped36300:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.150than me? But it's not aboutmy capability, it's hot about what I36400:27:45.349 --> 00:27:49.910can do, but about what Christcan and will do through me. And36500:27:51.230 --> 00:27:52.990I remember at boot camp, ifyou guys kept telling us over and over36600:27:53.029 --> 00:27:59.019again that you're running with the willing. So while I may have been,36700:27:59.180 --> 00:28:03.180you know, the youngest there,there was adults up to seventy s beyond,36800:28:03.299 --> 00:28:07.380but the same the thing that weall had in common was, first36900:28:07.380 --> 00:28:11.500of all, faith in Christ andwe understand that we're simply just vessels,37000:28:12.049 --> 00:28:15.890you know, ready to be usedby God. So, even through those37100:28:15.930 --> 00:28:21.650challenges of debt doubt that I've faced. I trust that God will do the37200:28:21.730 --> 00:28:25.130work through me and you know,all I have to do is be willing37300:28:25.210 --> 00:28:30.240and obedient. Yes, that's sotrue that that gets kind of to that37400:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.960question. I asked early on whenpeople challenge you because you have not had37500:28:34.160 --> 00:28:41.160their experiences, and you answered verysimilarly to how how Daniel answered that it37600:28:41.670 --> 00:28:45.390those experiences are not what you need. You Need Truth and you've got that.37700:28:45.069 --> 00:28:52.710You've got that through through the Lord. So did you ever have someone37800:28:52.750 --> 00:28:57.859really come and say I I'm noteven going to talk to you because you37900:28:59.019 --> 00:29:06.299can't begin to know what it's liketo be pregnant and poor when you've never38000:29:06.339 --> 00:29:11.210even been pregnant and you've got,you know, this supportive family? I38100:29:11.769 --> 00:29:17.450would say we've had an overwhelming goodresponse from most of the people that we38200:29:17.529 --> 00:29:22.089have conversations with. So I wentnecessarily say that I've had people, you38300:29:22.210 --> 00:29:26.519know, ask me for a responsein that way. But when we first38400:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.440got started, it was very slowand we weren't seeing any fruit from our38500:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.240labor, Labor, and that wasvery discouraging to me and I just started38600:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.079asking my mom. You know,I'm in Rono Virginia at this time and38700:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.950my mom and my family and allmy friends are back in Woodstock, Georgia,38800:29:41.470 --> 00:29:45.150and I just asked her like wouldyou please, please pray for us,38900:29:45.269 --> 00:29:48.950and she felt moved by the spiritto start a prayer group for us.39000:29:48.430 --> 00:29:52.220And once this prayer group took place, you know, these are people39100:29:52.259 --> 00:29:56.859praying from Woodstock Georgia, people prayingfrom our area and even across the United39200:29:56.900 --> 00:30:03.180States. We saw this huge shifttake place and there were more families that39300:30:03.259 --> 00:30:07.210were coming up and talking with usand they were open to communicating and they39400:30:07.250 --> 00:30:10.930were being vulnerable with us, whichis something that I hadn't seen before.39500:30:11.609 --> 00:30:15.049So I would say that we havehad a really, you know, a39600:30:15.210 --> 00:30:18.250great response from the families that wedo have an opportunity to talk to.39700:30:18.650 --> 00:30:23.359I love would what you just pointedout. It's such a truth that you39800:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.839perceived that this battle was truly nota battle of flesh and blood, but39900:30:27.920 --> 00:30:33.079a spiritual battle, and you beganimmediately to fight it with spiritual weapons,40000:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.430and that's when a turnaround came.So so the prayer, a faithful prayer40100:30:37.470 --> 00:30:44.630group behind you. That's that's amazing. Yes, yeah, yeah, I40200:30:44.670 --> 00:30:48.589mean I would say, Gosh,that's something I've learned as well. I'll40300:30:48.670 --> 00:30:53.339just knowing the spiritual warfare that we'rein and knowing the battle that we're facing.40400:30:53.579 --> 00:31:00.059It's so intense and the discouragement thatcan come can be so it can40500:31:00.099 --> 00:31:04.490be detrimental. Just the discouragement thatwe can be under. Knowing that there40600:31:04.490 --> 00:31:10.930are people specifically behind US praying isa powerful thing. I've seen a shift40700:31:11.089 --> 00:31:15.130myself, even being out here inCalifornia. There's just been some challenges and40800:31:15.289 --> 00:31:21.119things. Moving my family out herehas been a challenge and just spiritual warfare40900:31:21.160 --> 00:31:26.480that's here, the devil trying tocome in and just distract and all these41000:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.480other things like, man, Ineed to get a prayer group together myself,41100:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.480so I reached out to a coupleof brothers and said, Hey,41200:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.230would you guys be praying for me, and I can just testify to what41300:31:34.309 --> 00:31:40.630you're saying, Jenna. I canfeel a difference. I can see momentum41400:31:41.509 --> 00:31:45.349building and I can see things movingforward at a faster pace because I know41500:31:45.750 --> 00:31:48.619that people are praying, they're appealingto heaven for me. So you guys41600:31:48.619 --> 00:31:52.579that are out on the sidewalk,and I would say specifically for you who41700:31:52.619 --> 00:31:56.700are brand new and you're thinking maybeyou've never been out in the sidewalk or41800:31:56.740 --> 00:31:59.140maybe you've only been out there fora couple of times. I want to41900:31:59.180 --> 00:32:01.650encourage you to do what Jenna did. Reach out to some people. There42000:32:01.690 --> 00:32:06.170are people in your life, believers, who can't be out there on the42100:32:06.210 --> 00:32:09.410sidewalk for it whatever reason, butthey can pray for you, and have42200:32:09.569 --> 00:32:15.319them pray for you once a day. Or maybe you have seven different people42300:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.559praying for you once a day everyweek. Have some might cover each day,42400:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.640you know, or just the daysthat you're going to be out on42500:32:23.680 --> 00:32:27.519the sidewalk. Maybe you're committed togo out on the sidewalk every Friday.42600:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.670Build a prayer team to be prayingfor you every Friday. Have a have42700:32:31.269 --> 00:32:35.710have that air support, because that'skind of what it is like military terms,42800:32:35.789 --> 00:32:37.990right. You've got the people thatare on the ground and then you42900:32:37.029 --> 00:32:43.710got the air support, and thatis a powerful, powerful weapon against the43000:32:43.750 --> 00:32:46.900enemy and against discouragement, but also, like you see, breakthrough. Like43100:32:46.980 --> 00:32:50.940yeah, you testified to Jenna.Yeah. Now let me ask you,43200:32:51.059 --> 00:32:57.059because I don't want to leave thethis point too quickly, because I know43300:32:57.220 --> 00:33:00.089I, like, like both ofyou, I think have, you know,43400:33:00.210 --> 00:33:04.809came to a realization, wowvious isnot of me. I need per43500:33:04.890 --> 00:33:07.130support. I would start as soonas a mom I'd be talking to a43600:33:07.250 --> 00:33:09.890mom, or someone else on thesidewalk was talking to mom. I would43700:33:09.890 --> 00:33:15.880start texting or putting a post outon facebook. Please, please pray for43800:33:15.960 --> 00:33:23.279us, and sometimes I would seea mom choose life, but sometimes they43900:33:23.359 --> 00:33:30.589still choose abortion. They still dodoes it, you know. So God44000:33:30.750 --> 00:33:38.470is not genie in a bottle thatthat grants our wishes. His will is44100:33:38.549 --> 00:33:47.420supreme. But I certainly have experienceddis spite feeling like like sometimes I am44200:33:47.619 --> 00:33:54.700in our team is fighting the battlewith spiritual tools and well and prayer support,44300:33:55.210 --> 00:34:00.809we will still experience defeat. Wewill still see moms walk into that44400:34:00.849 --> 00:34:06.569abortion center. We will still fightdiscouragement. At least I have. So44500:34:06.809 --> 00:34:10.880I'm just wondering if to have youexperienced that as well, and how have44600:34:12.079 --> 00:34:16.039you dealt with that if you have? HMM, yeah, there's definitely been44700:34:16.360 --> 00:34:21.760some defeat in this ministry, andI mean we all want to see fruit44800:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.550from our labor, you know.We all want to see those lives saved44900:34:23.590 --> 00:34:27.550and we want to see those amazingstories of how we've been able to walk45000:34:27.590 --> 00:34:31.510alongside moms and mentor these families,but sometimes that's not always the case.45100:34:31.590 --> 00:34:37.670And you know, I've had situationswhere I've counseled moms for the longest time,45200:34:37.909 --> 00:34:42.139you know, outside the clinic orentand have continued texting them and praying45300:34:42.260 --> 00:34:49.300for them and they still make thatdecision to disobey God. And something that45400:34:49.340 --> 00:34:52.619you guys would say at training alot that is really stuck with me is45500:34:52.699 --> 00:34:57.289that the victory is in obedience andwe just have to remember that. It's,45600:34:57.409 --> 00:35:00.010you know, not those numbers,it's not the fruit of the Labor,45700:35:00.329 --> 00:35:05.409while those are all very good things, but our victories in that obedience45800:35:05.530 --> 00:35:09.679that we take. Yeah, andthat helps you do that. Yes,45900:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.239it does. Yeah, I haven't. That's that kind of goes back to46000:35:14.559 --> 00:35:19.360even the podcast episode we did aboutmotivation, right, and our motivation for46100:35:19.519 --> 00:35:23.389ministry. That our motivation can't bethe babies in the MOM's not my primary46200:35:23.429 --> 00:35:27.989motivation. Certainly, were motivated bythat, right, you were initially motivated46300:35:28.070 --> 00:35:32.070by the fact that our world areculture is a culture of death, and46400:35:32.429 --> 00:35:37.820all the students in that classroom werepro aborts, pro abortion, but except46500:35:37.860 --> 00:35:42.900for you, right that was amotivation, but your primary motivation is the46600:35:43.059 --> 00:35:45.219Lord, your love for him,what he's done in your life. We've46700:35:45.219 --> 00:35:50.289got to keep that as our motivationbecause if the victory is in babies being46800:35:50.369 --> 00:35:53.130saved and the victory is in themoms choose in life, we don't see46900:35:53.250 --> 00:35:58.090that every day and so we feellike we're not victorious every day. But47000:35:58.130 --> 00:36:01.090if the victory is in obedience andif our motivation is a love for God47100:36:01.289 --> 00:36:07.519first, then every day we showup, we're being obedient and we are47200:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.559victorious. God's doing the stuff behindthe scenes and God's doing the work.47300:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.159If the all the work is upto us, then we're going to be47400:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.909sadly disappointed. The work is upto the Lord. We're just called to47500:36:19.989 --> 00:36:22.230be obedient, to be a vesselfor him to work through. Yeah,47600:36:22.550 --> 00:36:30.190yeah, so that prayer support andall the spiritual uplifting and support can certainly47700:36:30.230 --> 00:36:35.980help to change just our outlook oneverything that we face, both the the47800:36:37.219 --> 00:36:40.780wonderful fruit that we do see,but also of those times when we when47900:36:40.860 --> 00:36:45.460we don't see food. So Idon't want to leave it on a Downer48000:36:45.539 --> 00:36:50.010like that. I know you've seensome really amazing things happen there. There48100:36:50.050 --> 00:36:54.210are rewards. They're definitely rewards thatare really pretty awesome and in this ministry.48200:36:54.289 --> 00:36:58.530Can you talk about some of those? Yeah, well, I love48300:36:58.610 --> 00:37:01.119the beginning of some of these versesin Isaiah Sixty one, because I kind48400:37:01.159 --> 00:37:07.360of goes through what we're doing onthe sidewalks and it says the spirit of48500:37:07.480 --> 00:37:12.119the sovereign Lord is on me,because the Lord has anointed me to proclaim48600:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.789good news to the poor. Hehas sent me to bind up the broken48700:37:15.829 --> 00:37:20.789hearted, to proclaim freedom for thecaptives and release from the from darkness for48800:37:20.829 --> 00:37:23.630the prisoners, to proclaim the yearof the Lord's favor and the day of48900:37:23.710 --> 00:37:29.429vengeance of our God, to comfortall who mourn and provide for those who49000:37:29.550 --> 00:37:34.260grieve in Zion, to bestow onthem a crown of beauty instead of ashes,49100:37:34.820 --> 00:37:38.019the oil of joy instead of mourning, and a garment of praise instead49200:37:38.019 --> 00:37:43.260of a spirit of despair. Theywill be called Oaks of righteousness, a49300:37:43.420 --> 00:37:46.730planting of the Lord for the displayof his splendor. And I feel like49400:37:46.929 --> 00:37:52.170the reward that I really received through, you know, US being taking action49500:37:52.329 --> 00:37:57.769through this word, is just thejoy. I there's just so much joy49600:37:57.889 --> 00:38:01.519in this Ministry of being a partof God's work and there's a reward and49700:38:01.719 --> 00:38:07.599expectancy of hopefully seeing some of thesefamilies join us in the Kingdom one day49800:38:07.480 --> 00:38:12.519them. There's just there really isnothing that brings me more joy than doing49900:38:12.679 --> 00:38:16.510what God has called me to do. And you know, God doesn't need50000:38:16.630 --> 00:38:20.269us. We often talk about howGod doesn't need us and he doesn't have50100:38:20.389 --> 00:38:23.630to have us, but he doeschoose to allow us to be a part50200:38:23.630 --> 00:38:29.820of his work and that's a bigblessing to me because I'm able to be50300:38:29.900 --> 00:38:34.739a part of that fruit. Youknow, here in Roanoke we've seen sixteen50400:38:34.900 --> 00:38:38.820lives saved from abortion over this pastyear. When we first started, you50500:38:38.860 --> 00:38:42.329know, I said it was slowand we weren't seeing any fruit. So50600:38:42.889 --> 00:38:45.889now to get to the point towhere there's sixteen babies that were scheduled to50700:38:46.170 --> 00:38:52.329die that now have life and thatis such a reward to that would let50800:38:52.329 --> 00:38:55.639us be a part of that testimony. So yeah, it's just amazing to50900:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.880witness the fruit of the Labor thathe's allowed us to be a part of.51000:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.960have any of those babies been born? Have you had the opportunity to51100:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.800hold any of them. Yet therehas been one born, one baby boy,51200:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.789and he's a couple months old now, and we just threw a baby51300:39:10.869 --> 00:39:16.670shower for Mama why, and sheis do in January, so we're expecting51400:39:16.750 --> 00:39:22.190her baby girl very soon. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, it's it's51500:39:22.269 --> 00:39:24.739the mercy of God that we getto see the fruit of our labor.51600:39:24.739 --> 00:39:30.820Yes, it is encouraging, eventhough the victories in obedience. That's like,51700:39:32.179 --> 00:39:36.860that's the fruit of obedience, seeingGod do, who is his work,51800:39:37.019 --> 00:39:39.409in the loves of these MOMS andsaving babies. So part of your51900:39:39.409 --> 00:39:45.730job has been getting churches behind you, convincing pastors that that they should come52000:39:45.849 --> 00:39:53.440on board and and be more activein supporting frontline pro life ministry. Has52100:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.760that been a challenge? Has thatpresented challenges for you, particularly in light52200:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.599of the fact that you're young andand a woman? A lot of pastors,52300:40:01.760 --> 00:40:05.079most pastors, I assume that you'respeaking with her, going to be52400:40:05.159 --> 00:40:10.309man. Tell us about that.How how do you develop courage to do52500:40:12.269 --> 00:40:16.030that? Yeah, I mean there'sdefinitely challenges there. I never thought that52600:40:16.349 --> 00:40:19.949at age twenty one, as agirl, that I would be reaching out52700:40:20.030 --> 00:40:24.099to pastors, you know, connectingwith churches. So it's kind of bizarre52800:40:24.260 --> 00:40:28.420that God has put me in thatposition because I never would have expected it.52900:40:29.940 --> 00:40:32.059And there has been some challenges.You know, there's been churches that53000:40:32.139 --> 00:40:35.730have told us, well, wedon't want to be known as what we're53100:40:35.769 --> 00:40:38.010against, we only want to beknown as what we're for, which I53200:40:38.130 --> 00:40:42.289understand. Let's be, you know, for these MOMS, let's be for53300:40:42.449 --> 00:40:45.690these babies, but also Jesus wasagainst sin, so it's okay to be53400:40:45.809 --> 00:40:52.039against abortion. So I've had responseslike that. But I've had an amazing53500:40:52.079 --> 00:40:57.960team that God has really raised upin here and Roanoke of close friends of53600:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.159mine and members of the Church thathave really come along and assist me and,53700:41:02.360 --> 00:41:07.070you know, raising contacting these churches, and I'm a young girl,53800:41:07.429 --> 00:41:10.550so you know it's not appropriate forme to go meet with pastors by myself,53900:41:10.710 --> 00:41:15.269but I've had this team come behindme and assist me and going to54000:41:15.389 --> 00:41:20.659share the heart of love life andwe've had an amazing response. We've had54100:41:20.739 --> 00:41:25.579about eight churches that are partnered withus in roanoke that are praying with us54200:41:25.619 --> 00:41:31.260and have adopted weeks and even further. I've gotten people from their churches connected54300:41:31.460 --> 00:41:37.489through sidewalk counseling or life discipleship.People even interested in orphan care and,54400:41:38.369 --> 00:41:42.090you know, people who have hadabortions in their past who are able to54500:41:42.170 --> 00:41:45.809receive healing and restoration, and thenalso those who are interested in leading those54600:41:45.849 --> 00:41:52.000Bible Studies for these women. Yeah, wo how did you raise up the54700:41:52.119 --> 00:41:58.519teams? You said I appropriately Godraised the teams, but you were used54800:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.710by God to help raise those teams. So I know that that's a huge54900:42:01.710 --> 00:42:07.389challenge for anyone in in any cityand can be a really daunting task.55000:42:07.110 --> 00:42:10.309So how did how did that comeabout? When? Well did you play55100:42:10.550 --> 00:42:16.780in developing teams? Yeah, well, when I moved to Roanoke I was55200:42:17.500 --> 00:42:21.619pretty much, you know, asme and my husband, Eastmand, and55300:42:22.139 --> 00:42:24.219everyone I knew was in Georgia andI was like man, how am I55400:42:24.340 --> 00:42:30.130going to rally the Church when Idon't really even know anyone but Eastman?55500:42:30.809 --> 00:42:34.889You know, his family way ishere in roanoake and I do have,55600:42:35.289 --> 00:42:37.889you know, some of my bestfriends that live here. They're the ones55700:42:37.889 --> 00:42:44.599who introduced me to Easton actually,and Easton's family and my best friends that55800:42:44.719 --> 00:42:49.039live here have really been a vitalpart in this ministry and these are people55900:42:49.079 --> 00:42:52.920that I already had strong relationships withand, you know, through this passion56000:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.719that God has given me, Ifeel like he's stirred it up in their56100:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.949heart as well and they've been avital part walking alongside of me and encouraging56200:43:01.070 --> 00:43:06.510me, but they've also really kindof taken on this role of wanting to56300:43:06.630 --> 00:43:09.750engage the church as well. SoI feel like just through the passion that56400:43:09.869 --> 00:43:15.139God gave me, he started stirringit up in other people, you know,56500:43:15.300 --> 00:43:19.900as I took action. HMM.So you start, you started with56600:43:20.059 --> 00:43:23.460what you already had, kind ofand just and and God flamed fan that56700:43:23.619 --> 00:43:29.849into flame and it expanded from there. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, well,56800:43:29.929 --> 00:43:35.489your passion for the Lord and desireto serve him in this capacity was56900:43:35.610 --> 00:43:40.010contagious in that that got on otherpeople, got into other people, and57000:43:40.090 --> 00:43:44.119I believe it's going to continue tospread. Their believe your team's going to57100:43:44.199 --> 00:43:49.960continue to grow and and you're goingto continue to get churches on board.57200:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.480This is kind of the way thisthing happens. Is really it's got to57300:43:52.559 --> 00:43:57.510start with somebody. Again, goingback to the analogy of David. After57400:43:57.590 --> 00:44:00.829David lopped off Golias head. Hehad to be a cat, a list57500:44:00.909 --> 00:44:02.550for this thing. That's when thechildren of Israel came out of their caves57600:44:02.869 --> 00:44:07.909and started running after the Philistines,you know, to basically run them out57700:44:07.949 --> 00:44:10.219of the land. It's got it. You got to have somebody that steps57800:44:10.219 --> 00:44:15.139out and to see a young ladylike yourself step out and really be a57900:44:15.260 --> 00:44:20.699catalyst for what I believe is goingto be that culture of love and life58000:44:20.820 --> 00:44:24.610in Rowanoe, Virginia and beyond reallytaking root, it's pretty encouraging and I58100:44:24.690 --> 00:44:30.690think it's it challenging and encouraging foranybody who's listening. If there's this kind58200:44:30.730 --> 00:44:32.409of mentality, it's like, I'mjust one person, what can I do?58300:44:34.489 --> 00:44:37.690Well, here you've got Jenna sharing. She just one person. What58400:44:37.849 --> 00:44:39.599can she do? All she cando is obey God and step out where58500:44:39.599 --> 00:44:44.679he's called her to and in God'sgoing to do the work through her,58600:44:45.039 --> 00:44:46.840and he is, and he'll dothe work through you. But you've got58700:44:46.920 --> 00:44:52.079to step out, you've got tostep out in faith. Yeah, we58800:44:52.119 --> 00:44:53.469don't have a whole lot of timeleft, Jenna, but what, what58900:44:53.630 --> 00:45:00.949advice or encouragement would you give topeople who maybe are like minded to you59000:45:00.190 --> 00:45:04.670and and feel like, like Danielsaid, I'm just one person. I59100:45:04.789 --> 00:45:07.460don't know what to do. What, what possible difference could I make?59200:45:08.659 --> 00:45:14.019What can you say to them asa young person who not only started in59300:45:14.139 --> 00:45:20.260this new ministry but in a completelyunfamiliar, well somewhat unfamiliar, New City59400:45:20.739 --> 00:45:24.010with really little support? Yeah,well, I'd like to, you know,59500:45:24.130 --> 00:45:29.849talk a little bit about my inspirationand it really comes from, you59600:45:29.929 --> 00:45:31.769know, youth in the Bible thatwere just like me. But you're not59700:45:31.849 --> 00:45:37.320David ner. Daniels talking about David, and he was this young guy,59800:45:37.920 --> 00:45:43.920and we're currently facing this modern dayGoliath. So we do absolutely have to59900:45:44.000 --> 00:45:49.159have that boldness and courage when facingthis giant. But I'm inspired by the60000:45:49.280 --> 00:45:51.949youth in the Bible that have setan example of faith. You know,60100:45:51.989 --> 00:45:54.989there's David, s Sir Joseph,Timothy, Mary, Daniel and like.60200:45:55.150 --> 00:46:00.630The list goes on of these youngpeople who took bold action in obedience to60300:46:00.670 --> 00:46:05.260Christ. Like David was only seventeenwhen he took on Goliath. Esther she60400:46:05.460 --> 00:46:09.219was around fourteen years old when shebecame queen. Mary gave birth to the60500:46:09.260 --> 00:46:13.699Son of God at Age Sixteen asa virgin and she had to have boldness60600:46:13.739 --> 00:46:16.340to face judgment. And Joseph,who was sold by his brothers, you60700:46:16.420 --> 00:46:21.889know, as a slave, thataged seventeen, but he worked towards,60800:46:22.090 --> 00:46:24.849you know, everything that he did, and he prospered and eventually rose to60900:46:24.929 --> 00:46:29.730second in command of Pharaoh. Soyou could see, like through each of61000:46:29.769 --> 00:46:32.880their lives and their background, thatGod wasn't calling the equipped, he was61100:46:34.039 --> 00:46:38.519calling those were that were willing andobedient. So really, the advice that61200:46:38.559 --> 00:46:45.000I would give is you can startliving a life of obedient and righteousness right61300:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.789now, like you don't have towait until you're an adult. If you're61400:46:47.829 --> 00:46:52.309the youth. God calls the youthand encourages us. We look to the61500:46:52.389 --> 00:46:55.190example of First Timothy Four undred andtwelve. We're told to set an example61600:46:55.590 --> 00:47:00.150and speech, conduct, love,faith and impurity. So we can set61700:47:00.230 --> 00:47:05.460that example through every task and everymoment. You know, Colossians three through61800:47:05.659 --> 00:47:07.659twenty three says, whatever you do, work at it with all your heart,61900:47:07.659 --> 00:47:12.860as working for the Lord and notfor Human Masters. Or strinthians one62000:47:12.900 --> 00:47:15.889thousand and thirty one. Whether youeat or drink or whatever you do,62100:47:15.929 --> 00:47:20.449do it all for the glory ofGod and some of the best advice that62200:47:20.610 --> 00:47:23.329I've been given that I'd like toshare, as well as to invest your62300:47:23.449 --> 00:47:28.570time and things that last forever.And there's only two things that last forever,62400:47:28.889 --> 00:47:34.320that's God's word and people. Somy challenge would be start investing your62500:47:34.440 --> 00:47:38.119time in the lives around you bybeing a witness of the Gospel of Christ.62600:47:40.000 --> 00:47:45.869Man. It's wonderful you could donext next week's podcast, which is62700:47:45.230 --> 00:47:51.510possible, about this very subject.Great, great, great advice and encouragement.62800:47:51.670 --> 00:47:54.590Yeah, yeah, well, Ithink it would be good if you62900:47:54.670 --> 00:48:00.059wouldn't mind, Jenna, just kindof wrapping up this podcast for you,63000:48:00.219 --> 00:48:04.860just to pray real quick for thosewho, young or old, that need63100:48:05.059 --> 00:48:08.780boldness and that need to step outin faith and know that they need to63200:48:08.820 --> 00:48:13.210step out in faith, and sowe just lift them up in prayer.63300:48:13.250 --> 00:48:16.570Yeah, absolutely, let's pray.Father, we just thank you so much63400:48:16.769 --> 00:48:21.130for what you're doing in our lives. God, I look back at the63500:48:21.210 --> 00:48:23.530past few years of my life andI see the intricate plan that you've set63600:48:23.809 --> 00:48:28.639forth from me. You know,back in college, when I had no63700:48:28.760 --> 00:48:32.000idea what your plan was and Ihad my own route. You know,63800:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.599I was coming into dental hygiene andyou had different plans. Lord, you63900:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.079set me apart and you called meto this ministry. And Lord, I64000:48:40.159 --> 00:48:45.429know that there's other youth that arejust like me, that have passions and64100:48:45.590 --> 00:48:49.469that have a desire to serve youin every way that they can, Lord,64200:48:49.510 --> 00:48:52.710so I pray that you would justraise up those labors of youth.64300:48:52.110 --> 00:48:54.550Lord, we know that you canuse the youth, and I pray that64400:48:54.590 --> 00:49:00.820you would help us to set anexample. You know, portion is affecting64500:49:00.900 --> 00:49:05.539our lives. This is our generationand we have a responsibility, that obligation,64600:49:05.699 --> 00:49:07.460to do something about it. SoI pray that you would raise up64700:49:07.460 --> 00:49:10.849the youth. Lord, help usto be full of boldness and full of64800:49:12.130 --> 00:49:15.170courage so that we can stand inthe gap for these unborn children. Lord,64900:49:15.489 --> 00:49:19.409help us to be a witness.We love you in Jesus name.65000:49:19.650 --> 00:49:23.599Amen. Hey Man, Amen.Thank you, Jenna. Thank you,65100:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.960guys, and that was that wasa blessing, that was an encouragement.65200:49:28.000 --> 00:49:31.119Yes, and we hope that youguys listening aren't courage where hope, we65300:49:31.239 --> 00:49:37.440hope that you're challenged is well,to step out in faith and just to65400:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.030know that God is stepping out withyou. So if this podcast was a65500:49:42.070 --> 00:49:45.070blessing to you, please leave usa review and again reach out if you65600:49:45.150 --> 00:49:49.429have any suggestions for future episodes thatwe can cover. That would be a65700:49:49.469 --> 00:49:52.019blessing and encouragement to you. Youcan reach me at Danuel at Love Life65800:49:52.099 --> 00:49:55.820Dot Org. You can reach Vickiat Vicki I love life dot Org.65900:49:57.179 --> 00:50:00.340And if you want to reach outand encourage Jenna or maybe even support the66000:50:00.420 --> 00:50:04.739ministry there in Rowanoke, if you'reclose to Rowan Oken you want to support66100:50:04.780 --> 00:50:08.050a local ministry that's having impact,you can reach out to her, Jenna66200:50:08.289 --> 00:50:12.090at Love Life Dot Org, andI'm sure she can send along a link66300:50:12.530 --> 00:50:15.929if you want to support her frontfinancially or support her support her, sorry,66400:50:16.050 --> 00:50:19.730in prayer. I'm sure that wouldbe a blessing to her as well.66500:50:20.010 --> 00:50:22.920That's Jenna with one end. Yeah, just so that you know,66600:50:22.400 --> 00:50:28.239I always have spelled it incorrectly.It's one end, KNA. Yeah,66700:50:28.719 --> 00:50:32.079that's right. So if feel freeto reach out and until next time,66800:50:32.320 --> 00:50:45.070God bless, God bless. Giveme our love for love, give me66900:50:45.829 --> 00:50:58.059our love for gratitude. I knowit will cost me my life. Nothing's67000:50:58.219 --> 00:51:00.820too precious in some you