Aug. 19, 2021

Sharing the Gospel - Mock Session

Sharing the Gospel - Mock Session

This episode is part 2 of last week’s episode. In this episode, Vicky shares the Gospel with “Cathy” who is walking into the abortion center and claims to be an agnostic. We pray that this mock session will equip and encourage you.


This episode is part 2 of last week’s episode. In this episode, Vicky shares the Gospel with “Cathy” who is walking into the abortion center and claims to be an agnostic. We pray that this mock session will equip and encourage you. 

https://sidewalks4life.com/sharing-gospel-with-agnostic-mom/ 

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me, 2 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:11.349 Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the 3 00:00:11.429 --> 00:00:17.309 Gospel Center Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge 4 00:00:17.350 --> 00:00:21.350 you in pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay 5 00:00:21.429 --> 00:00:35.219 tuned. I felt show passish touch your heart. Welcome back to the Gospel 6 00:00:35.259 --> 00:00:39.409 Center pro life podcast. Appreciate you guys joining us. Appreciate if you guys 7 00:00:39.450 --> 00:00:44.450 would share this podcast with other people and, like we always do, at 8 00:00:44.490 --> 00:00:47.369 the end of this episode we're going to give our email addresses so you could 9 00:00:47.409 --> 00:00:53.640 reach out to us with suggestions for future podcasts maybe some comments about this particular 10 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:58.479 episode. This episode is kind of springboarding off of our previous episode where we 11 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:04.750 did a mock session with Vicki and Maddie and they pretended Maddie was an agnostic 12 00:01:06.790 --> 00:01:10.390 coming to the abortion center and was afraid that her baby was going to be 13 00:01:11.870 --> 00:01:15.390 going to have issues because she had been drinking and had been smoking and that 14 00:01:15.469 --> 00:01:22.420 sort of thing, which is not uncommon actually. So this episode actually springboard 15 00:01:22.420 --> 00:01:25.980 and off of that. was kind of at the end of that last episode 16 00:01:25.980 --> 00:01:27.379 she said, will you come over with me in the shade here and we'll 17 00:01:27.379 --> 00:01:33.569 talk further. This was them talking further, her sharing the gospel with Maddie, 18 00:01:33.650 --> 00:01:37.409 who's actually her name is not Sarah in this one, right, it's 19 00:01:37.689 --> 00:01:42.010 Cathathy, Cathy, okay. So, anyway, we're going to give you 20 00:01:42.049 --> 00:01:46.409 guys an opportunity to listen to this mock counseling session and then, as we 21 00:01:46.489 --> 00:01:49.719 have in time past, we're going to come and talk a little bit about 22 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:51.400 it, some of the things that went well, some of the things that 23 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:56.640 could have been done better. And Vicki said that there was one blaring omission 24 00:01:56.760 --> 00:01:59.920 on her part. MM. So we're going to talk about what that might 25 00:01:59.959 --> 00:02:02.870 be. Maybe you guys, as you're listening through, try to figure out 26 00:02:02.909 --> 00:02:08.389 what is that blaring omission on her part and how could she never leave that 27 00:02:08.590 --> 00:02:13.270 out again? Right, so I'll be shamed into it. No more. 28 00:02:13.629 --> 00:02:16.699 Yes, anything you want to add before we jump into the video? Obviously 29 00:02:16.740 --> 00:02:20.979 it's a video, but right, you guys are listening on a podcast. 30 00:02:21.099 --> 00:02:23.819 Yeah, so you're not seeing the video, but it's okay. The audio. 31 00:02:23.860 --> 00:02:25.139 Yeah, it's great. We will be able to post the videos, 32 00:02:25.180 --> 00:02:30.330 I think, on sidewalks for life. With the article that goes along with 33 00:02:30.449 --> 00:02:34.129 this. But the the one thing that I wanted to add is remember this 34 00:02:34.370 --> 00:02:38.610 is an agnostic mom this is different from how I would share the gospel if 35 00:02:38.650 --> 00:02:42.210 it was someone who has already said I believe in Jesus, I believe in 36 00:02:42.289 --> 00:02:46.199 God. I was really so it. There were two things that I was 37 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:51.159 going for here with with her being someone who really didn't believe in Jesus at 38 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:53.800 all, and that was, first of all, to introduce her to Jesus 39 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:58.560 and then to introduce the truth, the Gospel. Yeah, okay, all 40 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.909 right, I guess we'll listen in and we'll be back after after this mock 41 00:03:02.030 --> 00:03:08.949 session. Okay, so you've got the information and thank you so much that 42 00:03:09.069 --> 00:03:13.259 you're willing to talk with me. Yeah, about God, I mean I'm 43 00:03:13.340 --> 00:03:15.539 hoping it'll be life changing, and it was for me. Like I was 44 00:03:15.620 --> 00:03:19.060 telling you, I'm post abortive and it was when I really came to grips 45 00:03:19.099 --> 00:03:22.699 with what I had done and when I had my first son. Is is 46 00:03:22.819 --> 00:03:25.979 when I saw God and I and I really I found him, and the 47 00:03:27.060 --> 00:03:30.330 Bible says that the door will be open to all who knock. God. 48 00:03:30.490 --> 00:03:36.129 God extends the invitation to be found to everyone of us, all who see 49 00:03:36.210 --> 00:03:38.930 can will find him. The Bible says. That's what I'm hoping is that 50 00:03:38.969 --> 00:03:43.120 at least he'll you know, you'll get a sense of of that he is. 51 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:47.520 He is there and he is seeking you and waiting for you just to 52 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:53.120 turn to him. But but you know what, I never got your name 53 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.430 and I'm so sorry. I'm what is your name? I'm cathy here, 54 00:03:57.509 --> 00:04:00.710 Cathy, okay, Cathy, and you and I'm Viking and my name and 55 00:04:00.750 --> 00:04:02.870 numbers is on the back right. Okay, so you can talk with me 56 00:04:02.909 --> 00:04:06.669 at any time and I know we talked about that. We're going to help 57 00:04:06.710 --> 00:04:11.860 you, and I want you to know all the help we offer is completely 58 00:04:12.379 --> 00:04:15.459 in no way contingent on how you feel about God, not at all. 59 00:04:16.019 --> 00:04:21.300 You reject God completely, we're still going to help you because we feel called 60 00:04:21.379 --> 00:04:26.889 by God to do our best to help you and whatever situation you face. 61 00:04:27.209 --> 00:04:31.050 Okay, so why don't we start with just I hope this doesn't happen, 62 00:04:31.129 --> 00:04:33.449 but if you were to, you know, get in your car and drive 63 00:04:33.449 --> 00:04:36.730 away and getting an accent and die, where do you think you'd be going? 64 00:04:38.490 --> 00:04:42.279 Heaven or Hell? I don't know. What if you just like cease 65 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.639 to exist. Okay, so you might, you might cease to exist. 66 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:47.720 Let's say that there is a heaven and there is a hell, place to 67 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:55.110 reward, enjoy an eternal the the spirit is eternal, and there's a place 68 00:04:55.149 --> 00:04:58.550 where God is. I mean the bottle certainly talks about heaven and a hell. 69 00:04:59.189 --> 00:05:01.670 Heaven where you're with God for all eternity. Hell, we are, 70 00:05:01.750 --> 00:05:08.980 you are separated from God in eternal torment for all eternity. So where do 71 00:05:09.060 --> 00:05:12.379 you think if it thinking about your life, where do you think you would 72 00:05:12.379 --> 00:05:17.620 be going? I don't know. I mean I've done some pretty bad stuff 73 00:05:17.620 --> 00:05:20.689 but like, for the most part I've been pretty good and I'm not I 74 00:05:20.730 --> 00:05:25.769 don't like het people in general or saying okay, so you're pretty good person. 75 00:05:25.850 --> 00:05:28.930 Like if there was a scale and you wage your good and bad on 76 00:05:29.009 --> 00:05:31.610 the scale, good tips a little bit higher than bad, a little bit. 77 00:05:31.649 --> 00:05:34.050 Yeah, okay. Let me ask you some questions. Have you ever 78 00:05:34.170 --> 00:05:39.759 told a lie? Yeah, okay. What does that make you're okay. 79 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:45.839 Have you ever stolen something? Oh Yeah, yeah, does that make you 80 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:50.269 a thief? Okay. Have you ever taken the Lord's name in vain? 81 00:05:50.430 --> 00:05:54.670 You know what I mean by that, like if you my gosh, or 82 00:05:54.829 --> 00:05:59.110 yeah, yeah, but you yeah, or Jesus Christ, and use it 83 00:05:59.189 --> 00:06:04.100 as a cuss word, really an exclamation of surprise or anger, cussing and 84 00:06:05.220 --> 00:06:11.300 anger and hurling it at someone. Have you ever done that? But the 85 00:06:11.420 --> 00:06:15.540 okay, IE, I have two and the Bible takes that very seriously. 86 00:06:15.579 --> 00:06:18.850 It's called blasphemy. So you and I are blasphemers according to the Bible. 87 00:06:19.490 --> 00:06:24.569 How about, have you ever looked with lust upon someone you're not married to? 88 00:06:24.689 --> 00:06:27.649 Let me ask you how you married. Okay, and you're pregnant, 89 00:06:27.810 --> 00:06:31.449 so we know the answer their question. Okay. And and the Bible says 90 00:06:31.490 --> 00:06:38.160 that if you even look with lust upon someone that you're not married to, 91 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:42.920 you've committed adultery in your heart. So, according to the standard of the 92 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.430 Bible, which everything begins in the heart, all sin begins in the heart. 93 00:06:46.509 --> 00:06:51.470 And according to the biblical standard, if you've looked, even looked with 94 00:06:51.550 --> 00:06:56.790 lust upon a man you're not married to, you've committed adultery, makes you 95 00:06:57.269 --> 00:07:02.019 an adulterer right according to this right now. How about, have you ever 96 00:07:02.060 --> 00:07:08.220 murdered? No, no, okay. How about if you took that human 97 00:07:08.300 --> 00:07:11.779 beings life, would that be murder? I guess it depends on what you 98 00:07:11.899 --> 00:07:15.699 consider murder. Okay, I'm well, murders the taking of an innocent human 99 00:07:15.769 --> 00:07:20.370 life. Is that human being innocent? Yes, yeah, I mean I 100 00:07:20.410 --> 00:07:24.490 guess it is. And it's a human being right with other human DNA from 101 00:07:24.490 --> 00:07:29.529 the moment of conception. So so, by that standard, you would murder 102 00:07:29.649 --> 00:07:31.439 if you went in there and killed your baby. Without a doubt that that's 103 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.600 taking of an innocent human life. But do you know that the Bible says 104 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:39.879 that if you even call your brother Rocco, which means fool, you've murdered 105 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.560 him in your heart. Again, that heart thing. But the Bible keeps 106 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.829 coming back to our heart and what happens in our heart. That's where all 107 00:07:46.149 --> 00:07:50.069 sin begins. We think about it, we dwell on it, then we 108 00:07:50.189 --> 00:07:55.389 do it, we take action. That's the progression of sin. So you 109 00:07:55.629 --> 00:08:01.660 have just admitted that you are a lying, thieving, blaspheming, adulter, 110 00:08:01.939 --> 00:08:05.779 is murderer. That's five of the time. Commanders, do you still look 111 00:08:05.860 --> 00:08:11.620 so good? No, no, not really really. So you're not alone. 112 00:08:11.660 --> 00:08:13.810 The Bible says that all have sinned and, Paul Short of the glory 113 00:08:13.889 --> 00:08:18.370 of God, all of us all of us in and you can see on 114 00:08:18.449 --> 00:08:20.129 that list, as I was going through it, you're probably being alone lies 115 00:08:20.209 --> 00:08:24.970 or not so bad right. Well, stealing things once in a while for 116 00:08:24.050 --> 00:08:26.360 a good reason, maybe as night. But as the list progressed, I 117 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.360 think you were beginning to kind of think, wow, that's sin. has 118 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:35.440 kind of added up and and and it's pretty pretty significant in my life. 119 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.480 So all have sinned and false show the glory of God, and the Bible 120 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.629 also says that there's a penalty for sin. For example, you have a 121 00:08:43.750 --> 00:08:46.269 mother and you were a child, and when you were a child, if 122 00:08:46.309 --> 00:08:54.389 your mother had not had consequences, punishment for your wrongdoing, would you have 123 00:08:54.509 --> 00:08:58.460 grown up to be a responsible, good human being? Do you think? 124 00:08:58.500 --> 00:09:01.779 I don't think either one of us are responsible good you. Okay, so 125 00:09:01.980 --> 00:09:05.059 maybe she'd. Maybe she didn't do that right, maybe she didn't discipline you, 126 00:09:05.419 --> 00:09:09.570 and maybe that's part of why you've led down a path we're kind of 127 00:09:09.730 --> 00:09:13.690 yours, maybe looking now with a little bit of regret on some of the 128 00:09:13.809 --> 00:09:20.730 things you've done. So so there is a penalty. Even a parent, 129 00:09:20.850 --> 00:09:24.639 a good parent of course, disciplines their child. God, if he's the 130 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.200 god of the Bible, that I'm claiming he is, then he is the 131 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:33.240 best parent. He is a perfect parent in fact, because if he created 132 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.990 everything, then he is mighty above all else, and if he has created 133 00:09:41.230 --> 00:09:46.710 these people, he has the right to do with them whatever he desires. 134 00:09:46.389 --> 00:09:50.389 And one of the things he has done is he's given us his commandments, 135 00:09:50.789 --> 00:09:56.299 his law, and we've broken them. And if, if we've broken the 136 00:09:56.299 --> 00:10:01.620 law in in a real court house, let's say you were in you were 137 00:10:01.700 --> 00:10:07.610 in court and you had committed murder and they knew you'd committed murder and and 138 00:10:07.649 --> 00:10:11.169 they the judge says, how do you how do you plead anything? Guilty, 139 00:10:11.210 --> 00:10:13.529 because you know you're guilty, but you say, but I'm really sorry. 140 00:10:13.809 --> 00:10:18.450 Most of the time I'm good, and let's you know, on one 141 00:10:18.450 --> 00:10:22.440 of my bad days, that I committed murder, but I promise I won't 142 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.759 do it again and I think you should let me go free. Would he 143 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.559 be a good judge if he let you go free? No, no, 144 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.440 because you have a sense of justice. Right there, that's not justice. 145 00:10:35.909 --> 00:10:37.909 Well, why do you think you have a sense of justice? Have you 146 00:10:37.950 --> 00:10:41.429 ever thought about that? I'll tell you why. Because there the Creator is 147 00:10:41.549 --> 00:10:46.029 universe, who we are made in the image of the Bible says, is 148 00:10:46.070 --> 00:10:48.110 a god of justice. He's got a love. He loves you so much, 149 00:10:48.470 --> 00:10:52.460 just as your mother hopefully loved you so much, or someone in your 150 00:10:52.500 --> 00:10:56.340 life, I'm sure, loved and cared about you. But it's not love 151 00:10:56.779 --> 00:11:01.980 if we just let you run wild with no restrictions, no boundaries, no 152 00:11:01.100 --> 00:11:07.370 laws, and if, when you break those laws, there isn't justice and 153 00:11:07.490 --> 00:11:13.850 you're returned to a right relationship with that, with your parent, with ever 154 00:11:13.009 --> 00:11:22.320 who it was who who you've broke the law, and justice is served by 155 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.879 their being some sort of consequence. Right. Well, the Bible says the 156 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:31.519 penalty for sin is death. That's the consequence hell, eternal separation from God. 157 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:37.870 And that makes sense when you think about like that courtroom scene. Right, 158 00:11:39.149 --> 00:11:43.070 there has to be a penalty, especially when you've committed something serious us, 159 00:11:43.149 --> 00:11:46.700 like murder. But what if the judge said to you, look, 160 00:11:48.419 --> 00:11:52.179 Cathy, I know you're guilty of murder. The state requires the penalty for 161 00:11:52.179 --> 00:11:56.100 murder is the electric chair. That penalty must be paid and I'm going to 162 00:11:56.139 --> 00:11:58.580 make a deal with you now. No judge on earth is ever going to 163 00:11:58.620 --> 00:12:03.169 do this, but let's just pretend he has. The power and willingness to 164 00:12:03.210 --> 00:12:05.370 do this. What if he says, I'm going to make a deal with 165 00:12:05.450 --> 00:12:07.889 you because, you know what, you're young, I've lived a full, 166 00:12:09.009 --> 00:12:13.009 long life and and I just care about you, and instead of you going 167 00:12:13.090 --> 00:12:18.080 to the electric chair, I'll go in your place. I will pay the 168 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:20.440 penalty that you deserve. Now, you see, no judge ever going to 169 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:22.960 really do that. But but if he did, you have a choice to 170 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.639 make. Right if you say to that judge, wow, that's amazing, 171 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:31.629 I can't believe you would do that for me, but thank you. Sure, 172 00:12:33.070 --> 00:12:35.429 then who's going to go to the electric chair? You were the judge, 173 00:12:37.669 --> 00:12:41.269 the judge, the judge. Could you've accepted what he's going to do 174 00:12:41.429 --> 00:12:43.230 for you? You can't believe it, but he's going to. So the 175 00:12:43.269 --> 00:12:48.460 judge goes, and who is set free? Me? You. If, 176 00:12:48.580 --> 00:12:50.340 on the other hand, the judge makes that offer and you say had no 177 00:12:50.460 --> 00:12:54.019 way, I know you're just trying to trick me. I'm pretty sure you 178 00:12:54.019 --> 00:13:00.529 wouldn't do it anyway, and besides that, it's honestly not pair. I 179 00:13:00.610 --> 00:13:05.090 can't let you do that. Then who goes to the electric chair? You? 180 00:13:05.649 --> 00:13:09.409 Well, in a similar way, it's not perfect, analogy at all. 181 00:13:09.450 --> 00:13:13.080 Analogies always fall short. But in a similar way, that's the deal 182 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:18.480 God makes with us. He Sent Jesus, is only begotten Son, the 183 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:26.960 Bible says, fully human but fully man, to Earth with one purpose, 184 00:13:26.870 --> 00:13:31.750 that he was to live a perfect sinless life, which he did. In 185 00:13:31.789 --> 00:13:37.269 the Bible is a historical book. There is no account of Jesus ever sinning. 186 00:13:37.590 --> 00:13:41.230 There were other books written at that time period. None of them accused 187 00:13:41.230 --> 00:13:46.019 Jesus Sin Never. He never committed a sin. Did he owe the penalty 188 00:13:46.139 --> 00:13:48.500 for death? No, the penalty for sin, which is death. No, 189 00:13:48.860 --> 00:13:52.620 he did not owe it. Right, right, you do. I 190 00:13:52.860 --> 00:13:56.809 do. In fact everyone does, because we've all sinned and fall short of 191 00:13:56.850 --> 00:14:01.730 God's glory, and the penalty for sin is death. So Jesus lived thirty 192 00:14:01.809 --> 00:14:07.049 three years on earth. Willingly said, I will pay the penalty. You 193 00:14:07.610 --> 00:14:11.960 me, everyone in that abortion center and on this street. Everyone the penalty 194 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:18.159 we all own. He would go to the devastating death, the horrific, 195 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:24.750 just tormentous death of the Cross to pay the penalty for sin that we deserved. 196 00:14:24.149 --> 00:14:26.269 Do you know about the cross? That? It's hard to grow up 197 00:14:26.309 --> 00:14:30.149 in America not know about the Crustian yeah, and so you know, Jesus 198 00:14:30.190 --> 00:14:35.990 went to the cross, did this terrible death and three days later Easter, 199 00:14:35.590 --> 00:14:41.220 the what we celebrated Easter. He rose from the dead. Now, first 200 00:14:41.259 --> 00:14:45.340 of all, that proves two things. Right, can you rise from the 201 00:14:45.379 --> 00:14:50.379 dead? How about how to drive? I don't think so. Now proves 202 00:14:50.419 --> 00:14:52.889 he's God, he's something, not US anyway. Right, right, when 203 00:14:52.929 --> 00:14:58.730 he rose from the dead, from the dead. What did he overcome that? 204 00:14:58.210 --> 00:15:03.929 Yeah, he overcame death. So He's proving that he has the power 205 00:15:05.690 --> 00:15:11.320 to overcome the penalty for sin, the you and I own. He overcame 206 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:15.720 death, he overcame sin, he paid the penalty for every bit of it 207 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.799 for us. Now, how do we know he rose from the dead? 208 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.950 I'm not going to say that there is an element of faith. There is, 209 00:15:22.509 --> 00:15:26.549 but there are some very convincing evidence of that. Again, there were 210 00:15:26.590 --> 00:15:31.029 books written at the same time period that talk about this, this huge influx 211 00:15:31.149 --> 00:15:37.580 of followers of this man who supposedly died on on the cross, and these 212 00:15:37.700 --> 00:15:43.740 followers are saying they saw him risen, risen from the dead. Those are 213 00:15:43.139 --> 00:15:48.899 extra biblical books. The Bible says that he rose from the dead and we 214 00:15:50.129 --> 00:15:56.250 know from history that everyone except for one of the apostles, the twelve men 215 00:15:56.370 --> 00:16:00.850 that followed Jesus during his earthly ministry. Every one of them died a martyr's 216 00:16:00.889 --> 00:16:07.279 death rather than recamped their belief that they saw he had risen from the dead. 217 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:11.720 Would you die for something that you knew was alive? If you knew 218 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:18.120 he had not risen from the dead, would you say no, go ahead 219 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:22.789 and kill me, he rose from the dead. Never but all of the 220 00:16:22.870 --> 00:16:26.750 just top a disciples, but one one of them prison after death. All 221 00:16:26.830 --> 00:16:32.269 of the rest of them died a horrific martyr's death rather than we can't the 222 00:16:32.350 --> 00:16:37.220 truth that Jesus rose from the dead. So I'm going to read you one 223 00:16:37.259 --> 00:16:41.899 of my favorite verses. It's Romans ten nine. If you declare with your 224 00:16:41.940 --> 00:16:48.129 mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from 225 00:16:48.129 --> 00:16:51.889 the dead, you will be saved. And I want to just talk about 226 00:16:51.889 --> 00:16:56.330 that a little. If you declear with your mouth, speak it that Jesus 227 00:16:56.370 --> 00:17:00.450 is Lord, what do you think that means? Jesus is Lord. What 228 00:17:00.730 --> 00:17:03.720 is Lord? What is the Lord of Your Life? What does that mean? 229 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:08.599 Like if money was Lord, would you do anything to get money? 230 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:14.599 Probably, if it was Lord. Right. So what if Jesus is Lord, 231 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:17.750 what do you think that means? Through anything to get Jesus, do 232 00:17:17.950 --> 00:17:22.390 anything to get Jesus do everything he says right. And he says that in 233 00:17:22.509 --> 00:17:25.470 the Bible. He says, if you love me, you will obey me. 234 00:17:26.430 --> 00:17:29.549 That's how we show our love of Jesus. And he also says in 235 00:17:29.670 --> 00:17:32.299 other verses, why do you call me Lord, Lord, and not do 236 00:17:32.539 --> 00:17:34.619 what I say? So He's saying if you're not doing what I'm saying, 237 00:17:34.900 --> 00:17:40.500 if you're murdering, if you're lying, if you're blasphemy and you're continuing in 238 00:17:40.700 --> 00:17:45.809 that, then he's not more. But if he is Lord, if you're 239 00:17:45.849 --> 00:17:48.130 going to call him Lord, he will do what he says. That's what 240 00:17:48.289 --> 00:17:52.609 this first says. So if you declare with your mouth that he's Lord, 241 00:17:52.650 --> 00:17:55.690 believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, like those twelve 242 00:17:55.769 --> 00:18:00.880 disciples and all those witnesses that saw him, and now us today that look 243 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.960 at the evidence of this incredible creation, of the fact that you're alive, 244 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:10.440 of the fact that the womb has is perfectly designed for the miracle of life, 245 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:17.349 that of the design of even a strand of DNA is just so intricate 246 00:18:18.710 --> 00:18:22.829 that there is a creator, and if you believe that that creator tears about 247 00:18:22.950 --> 00:18:26.390 you and rose from the dead, then you will be saved. And what 248 00:18:26.509 --> 00:18:30.779 that means is you can have eternal life with Jesus, with God, and 249 00:18:30.940 --> 00:18:37.380 the beautiful result, the Bible tells us, is that the Holy Spirit enters 250 00:18:37.420 --> 00:18:42.849 our heart at that moment when we submit our life to Jesus. He enters 251 00:18:42.890 --> 00:18:51.490 our heart and guides us into all righteousness, so that this burden that you 252 00:18:51.650 --> 00:18:56.839 have probably fought, this terribly wearying burden of sin that has led you to 253 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:03.119 a place how but you never thought you'd come that burden of sin, it 254 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:10.150 is removed and instead what is replaced is a deep desire to please and follow 255 00:19:10.549 --> 00:19:14.750 and Love God, and he will help you. So I want to ask 256 00:19:14.750 --> 00:19:18.230 you, I know you've never done that. Is that something you'd be interested 257 00:19:18.309 --> 00:19:22.109 in doing? Some Way Out? I want to learn more about I've never 258 00:19:22.150 --> 00:19:26.099 heard it explain that way before. Just yeah, I guess it just seems 259 00:19:26.099 --> 00:19:30.099 like God just doesn't want us to have a good time. It does. 260 00:19:30.220 --> 00:19:33.579 They're now, do you understand? Maybe he's protecting you right because he's this 261 00:19:33.740 --> 00:19:36.619 going to be a good time going in there and carrying your baby now and 262 00:19:36.700 --> 00:19:40.089 not at all. So I hope it's made you think a couple of things. 263 00:19:40.130 --> 00:19:41.890 I'd love to give you some more information and I can send you. 264 00:19:41.970 --> 00:19:47.490 I'd love to get your number, yeah, and and text, text you 265 00:19:47.609 --> 00:19:49.930 some some sources that were you can explore more on your own and I'd love 266 00:19:49.970 --> 00:19:53.480 to keep talking with you about this. But at the very least, can 267 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:56.880 I encourage you to come with me for an ultra sound, let's look at 268 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:02.400 your baby and then kind of go from there? Yeah, we can do 269 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:03.480 that. Okay, God, let you let me. Let me just go 270 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:07.589 see if I can get them on the phone and take you over there. 271 00:20:07.750 --> 00:20:11.869 Thank you. Well, we're back. We hope that was a blessing to 272 00:20:11.910 --> 00:20:15.829 you guys. Gotten a lot of feedback in the past from people who've said 273 00:20:15.829 --> 00:20:18.789 that these MOX sessions were blessing. You kind of get to listen in on 274 00:20:18.869 --> 00:20:22.380 some of the things that we might say as we're ministering to a mom at 275 00:20:22.420 --> 00:20:26.420 the abortion center. So we're going to comment on some of the things, 276 00:20:26.619 --> 00:20:30.660 but I mean, all in all, think it is good and we told 277 00:20:30.700 --> 00:20:36.769 you guys, to talk about or think about the blaring omission. That thing 278 00:20:36.890 --> 00:20:41.569 that Vicky left out of her conversation with Cathy, but it gets Cathy and 279 00:20:42.009 --> 00:20:47.210 sharing the Gospel with her. So maybe we'll say that for yeah. And 280 00:20:47.490 --> 00:20:49.519 what was that? Yeah, what was that thing that she forgot? I 281 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:55.279 didn't think it was to me and see it as a as a blaring omission, 282 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:59.039 but certainly some yeah, could have focused on yeah, I do know. 283 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:03.480 Just starting out, I think one of our critiques of the last last 284 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:08.549 portion of this whole session was that you didn't get her name, and so 285 00:21:08.950 --> 00:21:12.349 it's important that we get their name. It's not something that I get, 286 00:21:12.630 --> 00:21:17.750 I'm sure this in the past, right away. It probably in the course 287 00:21:17.750 --> 00:21:21.140 of the conversation. Depends on the conversation. Sometimes I'll get their name right 288 00:21:21.180 --> 00:21:23.220 away, but I don't want to be I don't want to come across as 289 00:21:23.259 --> 00:21:26.900 a creeper. Right, I'm trying to get all the day. Sure, 290 00:21:26.019 --> 00:21:30.380 yeah, they don't want to be given out personal information when we first meet 291 00:21:30.420 --> 00:21:33.450 him because they have heard bad things about us, they don't like us. 292 00:21:33.490 --> 00:21:36.490 Yeah, they don't want to stop me exactly. Yeah. So, can 293 00:21:36.529 --> 00:21:38.130 I get your name and can I go ahead and get your email address? 294 00:21:38.170 --> 00:21:41.410 Oh, oh, yet, would you give your so security number in your 295 00:21:41.450 --> 00:21:44.690 home agsty. I got a credit card on you. Yeah, of course 296 00:21:44.730 --> 00:21:47.359 wouldn't to come across this creepers. We're not trying to get information just for 297 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:49.960 the sake of information, but we want to build a relationship. Having their 298 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:55.240 name is important in this portion. You did apologize. Hey, I think 299 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:57.440 get your name before right. What's your name? She here's your name or 300 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:02.470 names Cathy, and you continue to minister to her from there. I want 301 00:22:02.470 --> 00:22:04.470 to make an important point on something that I want to make sure that all 302 00:22:04.549 --> 00:22:11.029 of us in sidewalk ministry do. If we are going to be giving resources 303 00:22:11.670 --> 00:22:18.420 to the MOM's it is very important if you start a gospel discussion that you 304 00:22:18.700 --> 00:22:22.700 tell them right off the bat nothing that we offer will be affected in any 305 00:22:22.779 --> 00:22:26.619 way by any decision you make. For Jesus, yeah, and and I 306 00:22:26.660 --> 00:22:30.089 did, and I say that at the GECKO. I said that at the 307 00:22:30.130 --> 00:22:34.250 beginning of this of the session just just that you just watched. Very important 308 00:22:34.450 --> 00:22:37.930 we have. That was one of the points. Yeah, I wrote that 309 00:22:37.009 --> 00:22:40.410 down. That's one of the points that I thought was so important. Okay, 310 00:22:40.970 --> 00:22:44.170 nothing that I say and no decision that you make based on what I 311 00:22:44.210 --> 00:22:48.640 say has anything to do with whether or not you get a free ultrasound? 312 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:49.880 Will or not we give you a baby shower, and none of the help 313 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:53.839 that we offer is connected with what decision you make. Now we have been 314 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:59.430 accused of that by proabortion people and and whatever else. You guys make them 315 00:22:59.509 --> 00:23:03.430 jump through all these hoops before you give them any resources. That has never 316 00:23:03.630 --> 00:23:07.869 been the truth. That's right and it will never be the truth. However, 317 00:23:07.910 --> 00:23:11.900 I will say that some organizations, mean you think about organizations like food 318 00:23:11.940 --> 00:23:15.500 pantries and things like that, they have certain hoops, so to speak, 319 00:23:15.539 --> 00:23:21.180 the people jump through. So there's things. There's like like we need information 320 00:23:21.380 --> 00:23:23.019 from them, like that's a hoop that everybody has a jump through. We 321 00:23:23.059 --> 00:23:26.099 didn't know where you live and who you are if we're going to be helping 322 00:23:26.170 --> 00:23:29.769 you, because how we're going to help you if we don't know who you 323 00:23:29.809 --> 00:23:33.170 are? You know so. But as far as like you have to do 324 00:23:33.490 --> 00:23:37.650 this, you have to take this class or do that thing, we don't 325 00:23:37.650 --> 00:23:41.009 do that. It's just not who we are. No, we do I 326 00:23:41.089 --> 00:23:44.480 will say, though, that their pregnancy centers that do that, that say 327 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:48.640 you need to be enrolled in these classes, the parenting classes, to get 328 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:51.680 certain things. I don't see anything wrong with that? No, I don't 329 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.079 either. They're giving a service. Yeah, I think it's wisdom, but 330 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.549 as far as we're concerned, the resources that we offer they're connected with, 331 00:23:57.630 --> 00:24:03.309 with just US knowing who they are, connecting them with the mentor. Often 332 00:24:03.349 --> 00:24:08.390 times we talked about that, that mentors going to give them those those different 333 00:24:08.549 --> 00:24:12.500 resources and things like that. But it's not like in order to get a 334 00:24:12.539 --> 00:24:15.779 mentor they have to ask Jesus into their heart, anything like that. That 335 00:24:17.099 --> 00:24:22.220 would be so unbiblical to say yeah, you can, you can earn Jesus 336 00:24:22.259 --> 00:24:25.890 right by, we will give you all these things and as long as you 337 00:24:26.049 --> 00:24:27.769 sign on the dotted line that you love the Lord, then we will give 338 00:24:27.769 --> 00:24:32.210 you more right now. That would be that would be awful, and that's 339 00:24:32.250 --> 00:24:36.490 why we're a little bit different from other organizations and that at this point we're 340 00:24:36.529 --> 00:24:41.680 offering the Gospel and there can be no strings attached to your decision to because 341 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.279 we don't want to create false converts. That's correct. I don't want someone 342 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.559 saying yeah, as Jesus in them a heart because I know that I'm going 343 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.680 to be able to get these free goodies right. That's I don't want that. 344 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.829 That's to me. I don't want to create false converts that I abhor 345 00:24:57.029 --> 00:25:02.109 that. So, for their sake and for the sake of the Lord, 346 00:25:02.309 --> 00:25:03.789 we want to make sure we make that plane. None of these things that 347 00:25:03.910 --> 00:25:08.539 we're offering, resources are offering, has any any connection to whether you make 348 00:25:08.579 --> 00:25:12.980 a decision for or against Jesus and see we he'll atheist. Right, we 349 00:25:14.099 --> 00:25:18.420 have. We've helped lesbian atheists that have come to the abortion center. You 350 00:25:18.500 --> 00:25:22.490 say, do lesbians, Lesbian Atheists, get pregnant? They they do, 351 00:25:22.809 --> 00:25:26.730 strangely, if we've encountered them, trust me, we have. We help 352 00:25:26.809 --> 00:25:30.650 them, whether they make a decision for Jesus or not. We help anyone 353 00:25:30.809 --> 00:25:36.359 everyone that we can in as much as we're able. So jumping into you 354 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:40.319 sharing the Gospel and kind of yeah, the way that you lay things out. 355 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.200 What are the first questions you asked? Has To do with eternal destiny, 356 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:51.150 right, heaven or hell, and I think it's good to get that 357 00:25:51.230 --> 00:25:53.269 out there. Right, it's good to get it out there. I think 358 00:25:53.269 --> 00:25:57.869 you mentioned what if you died going home? Is that how you worded it? 359 00:25:57.950 --> 00:26:00.869 Yeah, something like that. If you were hit by a car on 360 00:26:00.950 --> 00:26:03.549 the way, we can pray you're not. I always remind them. I 361 00:26:03.990 --> 00:26:06.900 want them open that happens to you. But if it did happen, yeah, 362 00:26:07.500 --> 00:26:10.539 are you going to go to heaven or hell? Yeah, now she 363 00:26:10.660 --> 00:26:12.740 said something to the effect of, well, what if I just cease to 364 00:26:12.859 --> 00:26:17.500 exist? What if I just don't exist again, she's playing at the part 365 00:26:17.539 --> 00:26:19.529 of an agnostic who, right doesn't really know whether or not there's even a 366 00:26:19.609 --> 00:26:22.769 heaven or hell. So then I made it a hypothetical right, because I 367 00:26:22.809 --> 00:26:26.730 didn't really want to get into dealing with that answer. Yeah, and that's 368 00:26:26.809 --> 00:26:30.329 I think that's wisdom. Right. Yeah, it's let the Holy Spirit do 369 00:26:30.529 --> 00:26:33.119 his work. Right. We're not going to be able to get into an 370 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:38.160 apologetic about heaven or hell and the afterlife and all this other stuff, like 371 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:42.000 you're not. It's not wise to go around that mountain continually before you even 372 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:47.079 get into sharing the Gospel. Right, just, okay, hypothetically speaking, 373 00:26:47.150 --> 00:26:49.390 what if? What if it is true that there's a heaven and a hell, 374 00:26:49.910 --> 00:26:52.910 and then you just roll with it? That's what you did. Not 375 00:26:52.029 --> 00:26:56.549 I like that. Yeah, I think most people can relate to a place 376 00:26:56.670 --> 00:27:00.710 of reward and a place of punishment, to even if it's not what you 377 00:27:00.829 --> 00:27:04.019 call heaven or Hell? Yeah, yeah, so just going right through that 378 00:27:04.220 --> 00:27:08.819 and just asking heaven or hell. She lays out like most parts, like 379 00:27:10.019 --> 00:27:14.019 like the Bible says. The Bible says each man will proclaim his own goodness. 380 00:27:14.619 --> 00:27:17.049 You give people an opportunity. Are you a good person, a bad 381 00:27:17.089 --> 00:27:21.170 person? Are you a person worthy of Heaven or hell? Most people are 382 00:27:21.170 --> 00:27:23.529 going to say, well, I'm a pretty good person. I'm not think 383 00:27:23.609 --> 00:27:26.930 she said this. I've done some bad things, but generally speaking I'm a 384 00:27:26.930 --> 00:27:32.200 good person, so probably going to heaven, all right. Yeah, and 385 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:37.200 then you jump right into the way of the Master Rate Comfort, the way 386 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.720 that he shares the Gospel. Yeah, and showing CAS Cathy, Cathy, 387 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.670 that she's not a good person, and she admitted in the end. Nope, 388 00:27:45.670 --> 00:27:48.430 I guess I really am not. Yeah, I've never had someone to 389 00:27:48.509 --> 00:27:51.829 say wow, well, I really am, and you're full of it with 390 00:27:51.950 --> 00:27:56.309 lies. Yeah, I mean what you get sometimes if you're laying out that 391 00:27:56.509 --> 00:27:57.619 you know. Have you ever told a lie? I'm a liar. I 392 00:27:57.779 --> 00:28:00.420 mean at the end you do it just like great comfort does. So you're 393 00:28:00.420 --> 00:28:07.460 a lying, blaspheming adulter at a lying, thieving blaspheming adulter at heart. 394 00:28:07.779 --> 00:28:12.529 How does that sound? Most people like, yeah, if that's the standard, 395 00:28:12.569 --> 00:28:17.930 I'm getting measured by toast. Right. Sometimes I'll get people to respond. 396 00:28:17.970 --> 00:28:21.089 Well, you know, I'm still a good person. Really, a 397 00:28:21.890 --> 00:28:25.210 liar, a thief, a blasting or an adulter, and you're still a 398 00:28:25.250 --> 00:28:27.319 good person. Yeah, then, what does a bad person look like? 399 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:33.680 They can see that person. Yeah. So I think it's good, I 400 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:38.839 think to what we've always pushed, what we've always supported and gotten behind as 401 00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.869 far as training for evangelism has been the way of the master. This is 402 00:28:42.069 --> 00:28:45.470 an effective way to share the gospel. Now, I will say this. 403 00:28:45.869 --> 00:28:53.029 Sharing People's guilt for sin and sharing the law, and are you a liar? 404 00:28:53.069 --> 00:28:56.380 All that that is actually not sharing the Gospel. Right. You're not 405 00:28:56.500 --> 00:29:03.980 sharing the Gospel. You're making groundwork. You're plowing the ground to share the 406 00:29:03.099 --> 00:29:07.140 Gospel. You're showing them why they need the Gospel, why they need to 407 00:29:07.299 --> 00:29:11.769 save your until they come to that understanding, the Gospel doesn't matter. They 408 00:29:11.849 --> 00:29:15.329 have no idea. They need Je Sus. Yet, until you've convinced them, 409 00:29:15.009 --> 00:29:21.730 you really are bad person and you are hopeless. You cannot get out 410 00:29:21.730 --> 00:29:26.799 of that cycle of Sin Yourself. And most people will ultimately agree that. 411 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.880 Yeah, that we can lay out that way. It's just like a doctor. 412 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.640 We talked about this in the past. You've got to convince someone that 413 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.960 they're sick before they're going to receive the remedy. Right, right. Yeah, 414 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.349 and the remedy, of course, is the Gospel. That's that's the 415 00:29:41.470 --> 00:29:45.710 Gospel. The remedy sharing what Jesus has done and his death is barrel's resurrection, 416 00:29:45.589 --> 00:29:49.069 but sharing the conviction of sin and the guilt that we have before God. 417 00:29:49.390 --> 00:29:53.339 That's not sharing the Gospel, but that's laying the groundwork for sharing the 418 00:29:53.420 --> 00:29:56.380 gospel. That showing people their guilt, right, they see that they need 419 00:29:56.579 --> 00:30:00.859 a relationship with Jesus, right, and then moving into the whole justice, 420 00:30:00.059 --> 00:30:04.700 the the court and and the idea that they're there is justice and that we 421 00:30:04.779 --> 00:30:10.490 all desire justice, and most people can really relate to that. One of 422 00:30:10.569 --> 00:30:15.049 the things that I didn't do that I could have done was, as she 423 00:30:15.329 --> 00:30:21.640 was really she understood justice. She seemed to truly understand consequence for sin and 424 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:26.480 the need for justice and maybe introducing the idea of justice towards her child. 425 00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.359 Yeah, and and I didn't that. That, again, was something I 426 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.440 could have. I could have used that that. I think she would have 427 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.109 been with me on that. Yeah, so, but, yeah, the 428 00:30:37.349 --> 00:30:41.430 rat comfort framework is really good. I do tweak it a little, like 429 00:30:41.430 --> 00:30:47.190 I don't exactly follow how great comfort does it in that. I spend a 430 00:30:47.269 --> 00:30:52.819 lot of time on that. Romans ten nine. Yeah, first and the 431 00:30:52.940 --> 00:30:57.539 reason for that is in where we are, so many of the women claim 432 00:30:57.740 --> 00:31:02.700 to be believers. Yeah, they'll leaven say not only do they believe in 433 00:31:02.740 --> 00:31:06.609 Jesus, believe in God, but Jesus is their Lord. Run, they 434 00:31:06.690 --> 00:31:11.410 have proclaimed him as their Lord. Yeah, and we really want to expose 435 00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:18.250 the truth or lack of truth of that statement if they are there actively rebelling 436 00:31:18.289 --> 00:31:22.960 against God in such a serious thing as killing their own child. Yeah, 437 00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.440 and you ask that question specifically, and I'll like the way that you lay 438 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:32.640 that out. If money is your Lord, then will you do anything for 439 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:37.430 money? Yeah, you will do anything to get money. Jesus is your 440 00:31:37.509 --> 00:31:41.349 Lord, she says, I'll do anything to get Jesus. Well, yes, 441 00:31:41.470 --> 00:31:45.910 you kind of reframed it. I believe you'll do anything that he says. 442 00:31:45.990 --> 00:31:48.059 You'll obey him. Right, and that's really what you're getting to, 443 00:31:48.220 --> 00:31:52.579 are you obeying God? Are you doing the things that he commands you to 444 00:31:52.700 --> 00:31:56.339 do? And, of course, in this scenario, are you obeying him 445 00:31:56.339 --> 00:32:00.930 as it concerns your Inborn Child? Obeying him by not going in and murdering 446 00:32:01.049 --> 00:32:06.730 your child? Right and also, and this can be slightly controversial, I'll 447 00:32:06.769 --> 00:32:09.289 think, for people, but as you're laying out Romans ten, if you 448 00:32:09.369 --> 00:32:14.569 confess with your mouth and believe in your heart Jesus Christ as Lord, confessor 449 00:32:14.650 --> 00:32:16.160 Math Jesus Christ as Lord, and believe in your heart that God's raised him 450 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:20.880 from the dead, you shall be saved. And you try to get them 451 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.440 to to make a profession of faith. You give them what some people might 452 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:28.839 call an invitation. Would you like to do that right now? Would you 453 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.789 like to confess Jesus as your Lord Right now? To pray and confess Jesus 454 00:32:31.829 --> 00:32:37.150 as Lord Now? She turned down that opportunity right she say something like I 455 00:32:37.309 --> 00:32:39.390 think about about it, I want to learn about it more. It's the 456 00:32:39.430 --> 00:32:43.549 first time I've heard it represented that way. I love a response like that. 457 00:32:43.750 --> 00:32:47.859 Honestly, that's what I want them to be sparked on to learn for 458 00:32:47.940 --> 00:32:52.059 themselves. It that faith has to be their own, not just because someone 459 00:32:52.140 --> 00:32:54.619 has told it. Yeah, yeah, what you don't want is trying to 460 00:32:54.700 --> 00:32:58.339 trick them into saying the sinner's prayer so you can put a notch on your 461 00:32:58.339 --> 00:33:00.930 belt. Right, I've got another one, saved or whatever. Well, 462 00:33:00.089 --> 00:33:04.170 if you, if you're considered that, just say this after me real quick. 463 00:33:04.289 --> 00:33:07.089 Trick him into quote getting saved. Yeah, again, we don't want 464 00:33:07.089 --> 00:33:10.329 to create false converts, right. Won't people who are truly convicted for their 465 00:33:10.410 --> 00:33:15.319 sin feel their guilt before God, on their need for a savior and that 466 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:20.640 are truly repent it? Right, and that might spring board into what you 467 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.400 thought was a blaring amission. Yeah, which I didn't think was was a 468 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:28.509 blaring a mission. Certainly you could talk to more about repentance and that's what 469 00:33:28.589 --> 00:33:30.190 it was. Right, right. I never, never mentioned repentance. It 470 00:33:30.349 --> 00:33:35.390 has occurred to me for a long time I really need at my fingertips a 471 00:33:35.509 --> 00:33:39.430 good repentance verse. That's all it need. Just throw in a good repentance 472 00:33:39.789 --> 00:33:44.779 verse, yeah, of which there's many, and and talk about that. 473 00:33:44.859 --> 00:33:51.099 That true repentance means more than just saying you're sorry for your sins, that 474 00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:54.299 you first I brought her to a recognition of sin. I don't know if 475 00:33:54.339 --> 00:33:59.049 I I think maybe a sense of sorrow over her sin, but I never 476 00:33:59.210 --> 00:34:07.049 talked about how true repentance means turning from this life of Sin and and you 477 00:34:07.170 --> 00:34:10.239 change your actions. If there's true repentance, you change your actions and that's 478 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.320 it. That is very critical, especially in front of an abortion center, 479 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.960 because true repentance, if you have agreed with everything that I have just shared 480 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:24.030 with you, true repentance means you're not going to go in there and kill 481 00:34:24.030 --> 00:34:28.230 your baby, right, and there are people I have actually said that too. 482 00:34:28.309 --> 00:34:30.829 So I know I don't always forget repentance, but I know sometimes I 483 00:34:30.989 --> 00:34:37.150 do, because it's not mentioned in the Romans ten nine verse, and that's 484 00:34:37.190 --> 00:34:42.380 where I'm really queuing in on on sharing the gospels. So I need to 485 00:34:42.739 --> 00:34:45.860 add a good verse regarding repentance. Yeah, I think. I think it 486 00:34:45.900 --> 00:34:50.460 would have been better. Yeah, and that's what Draymin for, is repentance 487 00:34:50.539 --> 00:34:52.929 toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus, like it talks about the book 488 00:34:52.929 --> 00:34:58.050 of facts. They preach repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus. 489 00:34:58.090 --> 00:35:01.889 Yeah, so that's what we have for you. Don't think there's anything else 490 00:35:02.010 --> 00:35:06.769 really that I wanted to touch on. It was kind of a long counseling 491 00:35:06.809 --> 00:35:08.320 session. So, yeah, then want to lay were too long at the 492 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:12.719 end and kind of breaking down critique and that sort of thing. I said, 493 00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:14.880 I think it went pretty good. Anything you want to mention before were 494 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:16.920 I will tell you I wanted to do this in eight minutes. That was 495 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.400 my goal and I kept watching the clock taking I was thinking what could I 496 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:27.590 have left out? So I do think it's important to remember we don't want 497 00:35:27.630 --> 00:35:30.349 to rush God and we don't. This is if we're going to take a 498 00:35:30.469 --> 00:35:34.949 long time with something, this is where we want to spend our time. 499 00:35:34.989 --> 00:35:39.579 I think, because we've said so many times, the heart that is willing 500 00:35:39.619 --> 00:35:45.179 to ape Bart a child is going to continue no matter how many goodies we 501 00:35:45.380 --> 00:35:50.929 give her, unless her heart has been changed towards God. Yeah, yeah, 502 00:35:51.530 --> 00:35:57.489 absolutely, and I will say that these sessions like this, sharing the 503 00:35:57.570 --> 00:36:01.610 Gospel, could happen over in the shade right yeah, or it could happen 504 00:36:01.690 --> 00:36:06.000 on the phone. It could happen on the mobileltra sound unit could help happen 505 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.920 in the pregnancy center. It could happen over coffee, breakfast, dinner. 506 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:13.400 I have ething like that. I've even texted this when a mom says I'm 507 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.559 just so busy, can you can you text, and I'll say, okay, 508 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:21.269 I will take whatever opportunity they offer me. Sure. And so, 509 00:36:21.750 --> 00:36:24.510 ultimately, though, it's the Holy Spirit that does right, the changing of 510 00:36:24.550 --> 00:36:28.070 the hearts. We have to share, we have to be faithful to share, 511 00:36:28.869 --> 00:36:30.349 but the word of God tells us to share, which I believe we 512 00:36:30.510 --> 00:36:35.619 were aiming for repentance. So we want to bring the truth of sin to 513 00:36:35.739 --> 00:36:39.260 bear. We want to lay out there saying their guilt before God and and 514 00:36:39.380 --> 00:36:44.900 then show them that Jesus is the savior, he's the remedy for the problem 515 00:36:44.940 --> 00:36:47.010 of sin. Yeah, thank you did that well. So praise God for 516 00:36:47.090 --> 00:36:51.329 that. Hope you guys were blessed as you listen to you. Please reach 517 00:36:51.369 --> 00:36:53.690 out to us if you have suggestions of future podcast. We're going to continue 518 00:36:53.730 --> 00:36:58.250 to do some of these mock sessions. We think they are blessing to people. 519 00:36:58.250 --> 00:37:01.000 We're going to continue to cover other subjects to but if you have other 520 00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:05.159 subjects in particular that we haven't yet covered that you would want us to cover, 521 00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.920 or maybe subjects we have covered that you want us to dig a little 522 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.360 deeper into we'd certainly love to do that. You can reach out to me, 523 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:14.199 Daniel, Love Life Dot Org. You can reach her, Vicky, 524 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.710 at Love Life Dot Org. And until next time, God, bless God, 525 00:37:17.789 --> 00:37:34.780 bless our love for love. Give me our love for gratitude. I 526 00:37:35.139 --> 00:37:44.099 know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious, and some that 527 00:37:44.449 --> you