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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me, 2 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:11.349 Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the 3 00:00:11.429 --> 00:00:17.309 Gospel Center Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge 4 00:00:17.350 --> 00:00:21.350 you in pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay 5 00:00:21.429 --> 00:00:35.219 tuned. I felt show passish touch your heart. Welcome back to the Gospel 6 00:00:35.259 --> 00:00:39.409 Center pro life podcast. Appreciate you guys joining us. Appreciate if you guys 7 00:00:39.450 --> 00:00:44.450 would share this podcast with other people and, like we always do, at 8 00:00:44.490 --> 00:00:47.369 the end of this episode we're going to give our email addresses so you could 9 00:00:47.409 --> 00:00:53.640 reach out to us with suggestions for future podcasts maybe some comments about this particular 10 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:58.479 episode. This episode is kind of springboarding off of our previous episode where we 11 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:04.750 did a mock session with Vicki and Maddie and they pretended Maddie was an agnostic 12 00:01:06.790 --> 00:01:10.390 coming to the abortion center and was afraid that her baby was going to be 13 00:01:11.870 --> 00:01:15.390 going to have issues because she had been drinking and had been smoking and that 14 00:01:15.469 --> 00:01:22.420 sort of thing, which is not uncommon actually. So this episode actually springboard 15 00:01:22.420 --> 00:01:25.980 and off of that. was kind of at the end of that last episode 16 00:01:25.980 --> 00:01:27.379 she said, will you come over with me in the shade here and we'll 17 00:01:27.379 --> 00:01:33.569 talk further. This was them talking further, her sharing the gospel with Maddie, 18 00:01:33.650 --> 00:01:37.409 who's actually her name is not Sarah in this one, right, it's 19 00:01:37.689 --> 00:01:42.010 Cathathy, Cathy, okay. So, anyway, we're going to give you 20 00:01:42.049 --> 00:01:46.409 guys an opportunity to listen to this mock counseling session and then, as we 21 00:01:46.489 --> 00:01:49.719 have in time past, we're going to come and talk a little bit about 22 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:51.400 it, some of the things that went well, some of the things that 23 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:56.640 could have been done better. And Vicki said that there was one blaring omission 24 00:01:56.760 --> 00:01:59.920 on her part. MM. So we're going to talk about what that might 25 00:01:59.959 --> 00:02:02.870 be. Maybe you guys, as you're listening through, try to figure out 26 00:02:02.909 --> 00:02:08.389 what is that blaring omission on her part and how could she never leave that 27 00:02:08.590 --> 00:02:13.270 out again? Right, so I'll be shamed into it. No more. 28 00:02:13.629 --> 00:02:16.699 Yes, anything you want to add before we jump into the video? Obviously 29 00:02:16.740 --> 00:02:20.979 it's a video, but right, you guys are listening on a podcast. 30 00:02:21.099 --> 00:02:23.819 Yeah, so you're not seeing the video, but it's okay. The audio. 31 00:02:23.860 --> 00:02:25.139 Yeah, it's great. We will be able to post the videos, 32 00:02:25.180 --> 00:02:30.330 I think, on sidewalks for life. With the article that goes along with 33 00:02:30.449 --> 00:02:34.129 this. But the the one thing that I wanted to add is remember this 34 00:02:34.370 --> 00:02:38.610 is an agnostic mom this is different from how I would share the gospel if 35 00:02:38.650 --> 00:02:42.210 it was someone who has already said I believe in Jesus, I believe in 36 00:02:42.289 --> 00:02:46.199 God. I was really so it. There were two things that I was 37 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:51.159 going for here with with her being someone who really didn't believe in Jesus at 38 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:53.800 all, and that was, first of all, to introduce her to Jesus 39 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:58.560 and then to introduce the truth, the Gospel. Yeah, okay, all 40 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.909 right, I guess we'll listen in and we'll be back after after this mock 41 00:03:02.030 --> 00:03:08.949 session. Okay, so you've got the information and thank you so much that 42 00:03:09.069 --> 00:03:13.259 you're willing to talk with me. Yeah, about God, I mean I'm 43 00:03:13.340 --> 00:03:15.539 hoping it'll be life changing, and it was for me. Like I was 44 00:03:15.620 --> 00:03:19.060 telling you, I'm post abortive and it was when I really came to grips 45 00:03:19.099 --> 00:03:22.699 with what I had done and when I had my first son. Is is 46 00:03:22.819 --> 00:03:25.979 when I saw God and I and I really I found him, and the 47 00:03:27.060 --> 00:03:30.330 Bible says that the door will be open to all who knock. God. 48 00:03:30.490 --> 00:03:36.129 God extends the invitation to be found to everyone of us, all who see 49 00:03:36.210 --> 00:03:38.930 can will find him. The Bible says. That's what I'm hoping is that 50 00:03:38.969 --> 00:03:43.120 at least he'll you know, you'll get a sense of of that he is. 51 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:47.520 He is there and he is seeking you and waiting for you just to 52 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:53.120 turn to him. But but you know what, I never got your name 53 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.430 and I'm so sorry. I'm what is your name? I'm cathy here, 54 00:03:57.509 --> 00:04:00.710 Cathy, okay, Cathy, and you and I'm Viking and my name and 55 00:04:00.750 --> 00:04:02.870 numbers is on the back right. Okay, so you can talk with me 56 00:04:02.909 --> 00:04:06.669 at any time and I know we talked about that. We're going to help 57 00:04:06.710 --> 00:04:11.860 you, and I want you to know all the help we offer is completely 58 00:04:12.379 --> 00:04:15.459 in no way contingent on how you feel about God, not at all. 59 00:04:16.019 --> 00:04:21.300 You reject God completely, we're still going to help you because we feel called 60 00:04:21.379 --> 00:04:26.889 by God to do our best to help you and whatever situation you face. 61 00:04:27.209 --> 00:04:31.050 Okay, so why don't we start with just I hope this doesn't happen, 62 00:04:31.129 --> 00:04:33.449 but if you were to, you know, get in your car and drive 63 00:04:33.449 --> 00:04:36.730 away and getting an accent and die, where do you think you'd be going? 64 00:04:38.490 --> 00:04:42.279 Heaven or Hell? I don't know. What if you just like cease 65 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.639 to exist. Okay, so you might, you might cease to exist. 66 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:47.720 Let's say that there is a heaven and there is a hell, place to 67 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:55.110 reward, enjoy an eternal the the spirit is eternal, and there's a place 68 00:04:55.149 --> 00:04:58.550 where God is. I mean the bottle certainly talks about heaven and a hell. 69 00:04:59.189 --> 00:05:01.670 Heaven where you're with God for all eternity. Hell, we are, 70 00:05:01.750 --> 00:05:08.980 you are separated from God in eternal torment for all eternity. So where do 71 00:05:09.060 --> 00:05:12.379 you think if it thinking about your life, where do you think you would 72 00:05:12.379 --> 00:05:17.620 be going? I don't know. I mean I've done some pretty bad stuff 73 00:05:17.620 --> 00:05:20.689 but like, for the most part I've been pretty good and I'm not I 74 00:05:20.730 --> 00:05:25.769 don't like het people in general or saying okay, so you're pretty good person. 75 00:05:25.850 --> 00:05:28.930 Like if there was a scale and you wage your good and bad on 76 00:05:29.009 --> 00:05:31.610 the scale, good tips a little bit higher than bad, a little bit. 77 00:05:31.649 --> 00:05:34.050 Yeah, okay. Let me ask you some questions. Have you ever 78 00:05:34.170 --> 00:05:39.759 told a lie? Yeah, okay. What does that make you're okay. 79 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:45.839 Have you ever stolen something? Oh Yeah, yeah, does that make you 80 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:50.269 a thief? Okay. Have you ever taken the Lord's name in vain? 81 00:05:50.430 --> 00:05:54.670 You know what I mean by that, like if you my gosh, or 82 00:05:54.829 --> 00:05:59.110 yeah, yeah, but you yeah, or Jesus Christ, and use it 83 00:05:59.189 --> 00:06:04.100 as a cuss word, really an exclamation of surprise or anger, cussing and 84 00:06:05.220 --> 00:06:11.300 anger and hurling it at someone. Have you ever done that? But the 85 00:06:11.420 --> 00:06:15.540 okay, IE, I have two and the Bible takes that very seriously. 86 00:06:15.579 --> 00:06:18.850 It's called blasphemy. So you and I are blasphemers according to the Bible. 87 00:06:19.490 --> 00:06:24.569 How about, have you ever looked with lust upon someone you're not married to? 88 00:06:24.689 --> 00:06:27.649 Let me ask you how you married. Okay, and you're pregnant, 89 00:06:27.810 --> 00:06:31.449 so we know the answer their question. Okay. And and the Bible says 90 00:06:31.490 --> 00:06:38.160 that if you even look with lust upon someone that you're not married to, 91 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:42.920 you've committed adultery in your heart. So, according to the standard of the 92 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.430 Bible, which everything begins in the heart, all sin begins in the heart. 93 00:06:46.509 --> 00:06:51.470 And according to the biblical standard, if you've looked, even looked with 94 00:06:51.550 --> 00:06:56.790 lust upon a man you're not married to, you've committed adultery, makes you 95 00:06:57.269 --> 00:07:02.019 an adulterer right according to this right now. How about, have you ever 96 00:07:02.060 --> 00:07:08.220 murdered? No, no, okay. How about if you took that human 97 00:07:08.300 --> 00:07:11.779 beings life, would that be murder? I guess it depends on what you 98 00:07:11.899 --> 00:07:15.699 consider murder. Okay, I'm well, murders the taking of an innocent human 99 00:07:15.769 --> 00:07:20.370 life. Is that human being innocent? Yes, yeah, I mean I 100 00:07:20.410 --> 00:07:24.490 guess it is. And it's a human being right with other human DNA from 101 00:07:24.490 --> 00:07:29.529 the moment of conception. So so, by that standard, you would murder 102 00:07:29.649 --> 00:07:31.439 if you went in there and killed your baby. Without a doubt that that's 103 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.600 taking of an innocent human life. But do you know that the Bible says 104 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:39.879 that if you even call your brother Rocco, which means fool, you've murdered 105 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.560 him in your heart. Again, that heart thing. But the Bible keeps 106 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.829 coming back to our heart and what happens in our heart. That's where all 107 00:07:46.149 --> 00:07:50.069 sin begins. We think about it, we dwell on it, then we 108 00:07:50.189 --> 00:07:55.389 do it, we take action. That's the progression of sin. So you 109 00:07:55.629 --> 00:08:01.660 have just admitted that you are a lying, thieving, blaspheming, adulter, 110 00:08:01.939 --> 00:08:05.779 is murderer. That's five of the time. Commanders, do you still look 111 00:08:05.860 --> 00:08:11.620 so good? No, no, not really really. So you're not alone. 112 00:08:11.660 --> 00:08:13.810 The Bible says that all have sinned and, Paul Short of the glory 113 00:08:13.889 --> 00:08:18.370 of God, all of us all of us in and you can see on 114 00:08:18.449 --> 00:08:20.129 that list, as I was going through it, you're probably being alone lies 115 00:08:20.209 --> 00:08:24.970 or not so bad right. Well, stealing things once in a while for 116 00:08:24.050 --> 00:08:26.360 a good reason, maybe as night. But as the list progressed, I 117 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.360 think you were beginning to kind of think, wow, that's sin. has 118 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:35.440 kind of added up and and and it's pretty pretty significant in my life. 119 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.480 So all have sinned and false show the glory of God, and the Bible 120 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.629 also says that there's a penalty for sin. For example, you have a 121 00:08:43.750 --> 00:08:46.269 mother and you were a child, and when you were a child, if 122 00:08:46.309 --> 00:08:54.389 your mother had not had consequences, punishment for your wrongdoing, would you have 123 00:08:54.509 --> 00:08:58.460 grown up to be a responsible, good human being? Do you think? 124 00:08:58.500 --> 00:09:01.779 I don't think either one of us are responsible good you. Okay, so 125 00:09:01.980 --> 00:09:05.059 maybe she'd. Maybe she didn't do that right, maybe she didn't discipline you, 126 00:09:05.419 --> 00:09:09.570 and maybe that's part of why you've led down a path we're kind of 127 00:09:09.730 --> 00:09:13.690 yours, maybe looking now with a little bit of regret on some of the 128 00:09:13.809 --> 00:09:20.730 things you've done. So so there is a penalty. Even a parent, 129 00:09:20.850 --> 00:09:24.639 a good parent of course, disciplines their child. God, if he's the 130 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.200 god of the Bible, that I'm claiming he is, then he is the 131 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:33.240 best parent. He is a perfect parent in fact, because if he created 132 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.990 everything, then he is mighty above all else, and if he has created 133 00:09:41.230 --> 00:09:46.710 these people, he has the right to do with them whatever he desires. 134 00:09:46.389 --> 00:09:50.389 And one of the things he has done is he's given us his commandments, 135 00:09:50.789 --> 00:09:56.299 his law, and we've broken them. And if, if we've broken the 136 00:09:56.299 --> 00:10:01.620 law in in a real court house, let's say you were in you were 137 00:10:01.700 --> 00:10:07.610 in court and you had committed murder and they knew you'd committed murder and and 138 00:10:07.649 --> 00:10:11.169 they the judge says, how do you how do you plead anything? Guilty, 139 00:10:11.210 --> 00:10:13.529 because you know you're guilty, but you say, but I'm really sorry. 140 00:10:13.809 --> 00:10:18.450 Most of the time I'm good, and let's you know, on one 141 00:10:18.450 --> 00:10:22.440 of my bad days, that I committed murder, but I promise I won't 142 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.759 do it again and I think you should let me go free. Would he 143 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.559 be a good judge if he let you go free? No, no, 144 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.440 because you have a sense of justice. Right there, that's not justice. 145 00:10:35.909 --> 00:10:37.909 Well, why do you think you have a sense of justice? Have you 146 00:10:37.950 --> 00:10:41.429 ever thought about that? I'll tell you why. Because there the Creator is 147 00:10:41.549 --> 00:10:46.029 universe, who we are made in the image of the Bible says, is 148 00:10:46.070 --> 00:10:48.110 a god of justice. He's got a love. He loves you so much, 149 00:10:48.470 --> 00:10:52.460 just as your mother hopefully loved you so much, or someone in your 150 00:10:52.500 --> 00:10:56.340 life, I'm sure, loved and cared about you. But it's not love 151 00:10:56.779 --> 00:11:01.980 if we just let you run wild with no restrictions, no boundaries, no 152 00:11:01.100 --> 00:11:07.370 laws, and if, when you break those laws, there isn't justice and 153 00:11:07.490 --> 00:11:13.850 you're returned to a right relationship with that, with your parent, with ever 154 00:11:13.009 --> 00:11:22.320 who it was who who you've broke the law, and justice is served by 155 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.879 their being some sort of consequence. Right. Well, the Bible says the 156 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:31.519 penalty for sin is death. That's the consequence hell, eternal separation from God. 157 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:37.870 And that makes sense when you think about like that courtroom scene. Right, 158 00:11:39.149 --> 00:11:43.070 there has to be a penalty, especially when you've committed something serious us, 159 00:11:43.149 --> 00:11:46.700 like murder. But what if the judge said to you, look, 160 00:11:48.419 --> 00:11:52.179 Cathy, I know you're guilty of murder. The state requires the penalty for 161 00:11:52.179 --> 00:11:56.100 murder is the electric chair. That penalty must be paid and I'm going to 162 00:11:56.139 --> 00:11:58.580 make a deal with you now. No judge on earth is ever going to 163 00:11:58.620 --> 00:12:03.169 do this, but let's just pretend he has. The power and willingness to 164 00:12:03.210 --> 00:12:05.370 do this. What if he says, I'm going to make a deal with 165 00:12:05.450 --> 00:12:07.889 you because, you know what, you're young, I've lived a full, 166 00:12:09.009 --> 00:12:13.009 long life and and I just care about you, and instead of you going 167 00:12:13.090 --> 00:12:18.080 to the electric chair, I'll go in your place. I will pay the 168 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:20.440 penalty that you deserve. Now, you see, no judge ever going to 169 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:22.960 really do that. But but if he did, you have a choice to 170 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.639 make. Right if you say to that judge, wow, that's amazing, 171 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:31.629 I can't believe you would do that for me, but thank you. Sure, 172 00:12:33.070 --> 00:12:35.429 then who's going to go to the electric chair? You were the judge, 173 00:12:37.669 --> 00:12:41.269 the judge, the judge. Could you've accepted what he's going to do 174 00:12:41.429 --> 00:12:43.230 for you? You can't believe it, but he's going to. So the 175 00:12:43.269 --> 00:12:48.460 judge goes, and who is set free? Me? You. If, 176 00:12:48.580 --> 00:12:50.340 on the other hand, the judge makes that offer and you say had no 177 00:12:50.460 --> 00:12:54.019 way, I know you're just trying to trick me. I'm pretty sure you 178 00:12:54.019 --> 00:13:00.529 wouldn't do it anyway, and besides that, it's honestly not pair. I 179 00:13:00.610 --> 00:13:05.090 can't let you do that. Then who goes to the electric chair? You? 180 00:13:05.649 --> 00:13:09.409 Well, in a similar way, it's not perfect, analogy at all. 181 00:13:09.450 --> 00:13:13.080 Analogies always fall short. But in a similar way, that's the deal 182 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:18.480 God makes with us. He Sent Jesus, is only begotten Son, the 183 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:26.960 Bible says, fully human but fully man, to Earth with one purpose, 184 00:13:26.870 --> 00:13:31.750 that he was to live a perfect sinless life, which he did. In 185 00:13:31.789 --> 00:13:37.269 the Bible is a historical book. There is no account of Jesus ever sinning. 186 00:13:37.590 --> 00:13:41.230 There were other books written at that time period. None of them accused 187 00:13:41.230 --> 00:13:46.019 Jesus Sin Never. He never committed a sin. Did he owe the penalty 188 00:13:46.139 --> 00:13:48.500 for death? No, the penalty for sin, which is death. No, 189 00:13:48.860 --> 00:13:52.620 he did not owe it. Right, right, you do. I 190 00:13:52.860 --> 00:13:56.809 do. In fact everyone does, because we've all sinned and fall short of 191 00:13:56.850 --> 00:14:01.730 God's glory, and the penalty for sin is death. So Jesus lived thirty 192 00:14:01.809 --> 00:14:07.049 three years on earth. Willingly said, I will pay the penalty. You 193 00:14:07.610 --> 00:14:11.960 me, everyone in that abortion center and on this street. Everyone the penalty 194 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:18.159 we all own. He would go to the devastating death, the horrific, 195 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:24.750 just tormentous death of the Cross to pay the penalty for sin that we deserved. 196 00:14:24.149 --> 00:14:26.269 Do you know about the cross? That? It's hard to grow up 197 00:14:26.309 --> 00:14:30.149 in America not know about the Crustian yeah, and so you know, Jesus 198 00:14:30.190 --> 00:14:35.990 went to the cross, did this terrible death and three days later Easter, 199 00:14:35.590 --> 00:14:41.220 the what we celebrated Easter. He rose from the dead. Now, first 200 00:14:41.259 --> 00:14:45.340 of all, that proves two things. Right, can you rise from the 201 00:14:45.379 --> 00:14:50.379 dead? How about how to drive? I don't think so. Now proves 202 00:14:50.419 --> 00:14:52.889 he's God, he's something, not US anyway. Right, right, when 203 00:14:52.929 --> 00:14:58.730 he rose from the dead, from the dead. What did he overcome that? 204 00:14:58.210 --> 00:15:03.929 Yeah, he overcame death. So He's proving that he has the power 205 00:15:05.690 --> 00:15:11.320 to overcome the penalty for sin, the you and I own. He overcame 206 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:15.720 death, he overcame sin, he paid the penalty for every bit of it 207 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.799 for us. Now, how do we know he rose from the dead? 208 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.950 I'm not going to say that there is an element of faith. There is, 209 00:15:22.509 --> 00:15:26.549 but there are some very convincing evidence of that. Again, there were 210 00:15:26.590 --> 00:15:31.029 books written at the same time period that talk about this, this huge influx 211 00:15:31.149 --> 00:15:37.580 of followers of this man who supposedly died on on the cross, and these 212 00:15:37.700 --> 00:15:43.740 followers are saying they saw him risen, risen from the dead. Those are 213 00:15:43.139 --> 00:15:48.899 extra biblical books. The Bible says that he rose from the dead and we 214 00:15:50.129 --> 00:15:56.250 know from history that everyone except for one of the apostles, the twelve men 215 00:15:56.370 --> 00:16:00.850 that followed Jesus during his earthly ministry. Every one of them died a martyr's 216 00:16:00.889 --> 00:16:07.279 death rather than recamped their belief that they saw he had risen from the dead. 217 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:11.720 Would you die for something that you knew was alive? If you knew 218 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:18.120 he had not risen from the dead, would you say no, go ahead 219 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:22.789 and kill me, he rose from the dead. Never but all of the 220 00:16:22.870 --> 00:16:26.750 just top a disciples, but one one of them prison after death. All 221 00:16:26.830 --> 00:16:32.269 of the rest of them died a horrific martyr's death rather than we can't the 222 00:16:32.350 --> 00:16:37.220 truth that Jesus rose from the dead. So I'm going to read you one 223 00:16:37.259 --> 00:16:41.899 of my favorite verses. It's Romans ten nine. If you declare with your 224 00:16:41.940 --> 00:16:48.129 mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from 225 00:16:48.129 --> 00:16:51.889 the dead, you will be saved. And I want to just talk about 226 00:16:51.889 --> 00:16:56.330 that a little. If you declear with your mouth, speak it that Jesus 227 00:16:56.370 --> 00:17:00.450 is Lord, what do you think that means? Jesus is Lord. What 228 00:17:00.730 --> 00:17:03.720 is Lord? What is the Lord of Your Life? What does that mean? 229 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:08.599 Like if money was Lord, would you do anything to get money? 230 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:14.599 Probably, if it was Lord. Right. So what if Jesus is Lord, 231 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:17.750 what do you think that means? Through anything to get Jesus, do 232 00:17:17.950 --> 00:17:22.390 anything to get Jesus do everything he says right. And he says that in 233 00:17:22.509 --> 00:17:25.470 the Bible. He says, if you love me, you will obey me. 234 00:17:26.430 --> 00:17:29.549 That's how we show our love of Jesus. And he also says in 235 00:17:29.670 --> 00:17:32.299 other verses, why do you call me Lord, Lord, and not do 236 00:17:32.539 --> 00:17:34.619 what I say? So He's saying if you're not doing what I'm saying, 237 00:17:34.900 --> 00:17:40.500 if you're murdering, if you're lying, if you're blasphemy and you're continuing in 238 00:17:40.700 --> 00:17:45.809 that, then he's not more. But if he is Lord, if you're 239 00:17:45.849 --> 00:17:48.130 going to call him Lord, he will do what he says. That's what 240 00:17:48.289 --> 00:17:52.609 this first says. So if you declare with your mouth that he's Lord, 241 00:17:52.650 --> 00:17:55.690 believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, like those twelve 242 00:17:55.769 --> 00:18:00.880 disciples and all those witnesses that saw him, and now us today that look 243 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.960 at the evidence of this incredible creation, of the fact that you're alive, 244 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:10.440 of the fact that the womb has is perfectly designed for the miracle of life, 245 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:17.349 that of the design of even a strand of DNA is just so intricate 246 00:18:18.710 --> 00:18:22.829 that there is a creator, and if you believe that that creator tears about 247 00:18:22.950 --> 00:18:26.390 you and rose from the dead, then you will be saved. And what 248 00:18:26.509 --> 00:18:30.779 that means is you can have eternal life with Jesus, with God, and 249 00:18:30.940 --> 00:18:37.380 the beautiful result, the Bible tells us, is that the Holy Spirit enters 250 00:18:37.420 --> 00:18:42.849 our heart at that moment when we submit our life to Jesus. He enters 251 00:18:42.890 --> 00:18:51.490 our heart and guides us into all righteousness, so that this burden that you 252 00:18:51.650 --> 00:18:56.839 have probably fought, this terribly wearying burden of sin that has led you to 253 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:03.119 a place how but you never thought you'd come that burden of sin, it 254 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:10.150 is removed and instead what is replaced is a deep desire to please and follow 255 00:19:10.549 --> 00:19:14.750 and Love God, and he will help you. So I want to ask 256 00:19:14.750 --> 00:19:18.230 you, I know you've never done that. Is that something you'd be interested 257 00:19:18.309 --> 00:19:22.109 in doing? Some Way Out? I want to learn more about I've never 258 00:19:22.150 --> 00:19:26.099 heard it explain that way before. Just yeah, I guess it just seems 259 00:19:26.099 --> 00:19:30.099 like God just doesn't want us to have a good time. It does. 260 00:19:30.220 --> 00:19:33.579 They're now, do you understand? Maybe he's protecting you right because he's this 261 00:19:33.740 --> 00:19:36.619 going to be a good time going in there and carrying your baby now and 262 00:19:36.700 --> 00:19:40.089 not at all. So I hope it's made you think a couple of things. 263 00:19:40.130 --> 00:19:41.890 I'd love to give you some more information and I can send you. 264 00:19:41.970 --> 00:19:47.490 I'd love to get your number, yeah, and and text, text you 265 00:19:47.609 --> 00:19:49.930 some some sources that were you can explore more on your own and I'd love 266 00:19:49.970 --> 00:19:53.480 to keep talking with you about this. But at the very least, can 267 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:56.880 I encourage you to come with me for an ultra sound, let's look at 268 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:02.400 your baby and then kind of go from there? Yeah, we can do 269 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:03.480 that. Okay, God, let you let me. Let me just go 270 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:07.589 see if I can get them on the phone and take you over there. 271 00:20:07.750 --> 00:20:11.869 Thank you. Well, we're back. We hope that was a blessing to 272 00:20:11.910 --> 00:20:15.829 you guys. Gotten a lot of feedback in the past from people who've said 273 00:20:15.829 --> 00:20:18.789 that these MOX sessions were blessing. You kind of get to listen in on 274 00:20:18.869 --> 00:20:22.380 some of the things that we might say as we're ministering to a mom at 275 00:20:22.420 --> 00:20:26.420 the abortion center. So we're going to comment on some of the things, 276 00:20:26.619 --> 00:20:30.660 but I mean, all in all, think it is good and we told 277 00:20:30.700 --> 00:20:36.769 you guys, to talk about or think about the blaring omission. That thing 278 00:20:36.890 --> 00:20:41.569 that Vicky left out of her conversation with Cathy, but it gets Cathy and 279 00:20:42.009 --> 00:20:47.210 sharing the Gospel with her. So maybe we'll say that for yeah. And 280 00:20:47.490 --> 00:20:49.519 what was that? Yeah, what was that thing that she forgot? I 281 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:55.279 didn't think it was to me and see it as a as a blaring omission, 282 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:59.039 but certainly some yeah, could have focused on yeah, I do know. 283 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:03.480 Just starting out, I think one of our critiques of the last last 284 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:08.549 portion of this whole session was that you didn't get her name, and so 285 00:21:08.950 --> 00:21:12.349 it's important that we get their name. It's not something that I get, 286 00:21:12.630 --> 00:21:17.750 I'm sure this in the past, right away. It probably in the course 287 00:21:17.750 --> 00:21:21.140 of the conversation. Depends on the conversation. Sometimes I'll get their name right 288 00:21:21.180 --> 00:21:23.220 away, but I don't want to be I don't want to come across as 289 00:21:23.259 --> 00:21:26.900 a creeper. Right, I'm trying to get all the day. Sure, 290 00:21:26.019 --> 00:21:30.380 yeah, they don't want to be given out personal information when we first meet 291 00:21:30.420 --> 00:21:33.450 him because they have heard bad things about us, they don't like us. 292 00:21:33.490 --> 00:21:36.490 Yeah, they don't want to stop me exactly. Yeah. So, can 293 00:21:36.529 --> 00:21:38.130 I get your name and can I go ahead and get your email address? 294 00:21:38.170 --> 00:21:41.410 Oh, oh, yet, would you give your so security number in your 295 00:21:41.450 --> 00:21:44.690 home agsty. I got a credit card on you. Yeah, of course 296 00:21:44.730 --> 00:21:47.359 wouldn't to come across this creepers. We're not trying to get information just for 297 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:49.960 the sake of information, but we want to build a relationship. Having their 298 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:55.240 name is important in this portion. You did apologize. Hey, I think 299 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:57.440 get your name before right. What's your name? She here's your name or 300 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:02.470 names Cathy, and you continue to minister to her from there. I want 301 00:22:02.470 --> 00:22:04.470 to make an important point on something that I want to make sure that all 302 00:22:04.549 --> 00:22:11.029 of us in sidewalk ministry do. If we are going to be giving resources 303 00:22:11.670 --> 00:22:18.420 to the MOM's it is very important if you start a gospel discussion that you 304 00:22:18.700 --> 00:22:22.700 tell them right off the bat nothing that we offer will be affected in any 305 00:22:22.779 --> 00:22:26.619 way by any decision you make. For Jesus, yeah, and and I 306 00:22:26.660 --> 00:22:30.089 did, and I say that at the GECKO. I said that at the 307 00:22:30.130 --> 00:22:34.250 beginning of this of the session just just that you just watched. Very important 308 00:22:34.450 --> 00:22:37.930 we have. That was one of the points. Yeah, I wrote that 309 00:22:37.009 --> 00:22:40.410 down. That's one of the points that I thought was so important. Okay, 310 00:22:40.970 --> 00:22:44.170 nothing that I say and no decision that you make based on what I 311 00:22:44.210 --> 00:22:48.640 say has anything to do with whether or not you get a free ultrasound? 312 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:49.880 Will or not we give you a baby shower, and none of the help 313 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:53.839 that we offer is connected with what decision you make. Now we have been 314 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:59.430 accused of that by proabortion people and and whatever else. You guys make them 315 00:22:59.509 --> 00:23:03.430 jump through all these hoops before you give them any resources. That has never 316 00:23:03.630 --> 00:23:07.869 been the truth. That's right and it will never be the truth. However, 317 00:23:07.910 --> 00:23:11.900 I will say that some organizations, mean you think about organizations like food 318 00:23:11.940 --> 00:23:15.500 pantries and things like that, they have certain hoops, so to speak, 319 00:23:15.539 --> 00:23:21.180 the people jump through. So there's things. There's like like we need information 320 00:23:21.380 --> 00:23:23.019 from them, like that's a hoop that everybody has a jump through. We 321 00:23:23.059 --> 00:23:26.099 didn't know where you live and who you are if we're going to be helping 322 00:23:26.170 --> 00:23:29.769 you, because how we're going to help you if we don't know who you 323 00:23:29.809 --> 00:23:33.170 are? You know so. But as far as like you have to do 324 00:23:33.490 --> 00:23:37.650 this, you have to take this class or do that thing, we don't 325 00:23:37.650 --> 00:23:41.009 do that. It's just not who we are. No, we do I 326 00:23:41.089 --> 00:23:44.480 will say, though, that their pregnancy centers that do that, that say 327 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:48.640 you need to be enrolled in these classes, the parenting classes, to get 328 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:51.680 certain things. I don't see anything wrong with that? No, I don't 329 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.079 either. They're giving a service. Yeah, I think it's wisdom, but 330 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.549 as far as we're concerned, the resources that we offer they're connected with, 331 00:23:57.630 --> 00:24:03.309 with just US knowing who they are, connecting them with the mentor. Often 332 00:24:03.349 --> 00:24:08.390 times we talked about that, that mentors going to give them those those different 333 00:24:08.549 --> 00:24:12.500 resources and things like that. But it's not like in order to get a 334 00:24:12.539 --> 00:24:15.779 mentor they have to ask Jesus into their heart, anything like that. That 335 00:24:17.099 --> 00:24:22.220 would be so unbiblical to say yeah, you can, you can earn Jesus 336 00:24:22.259 --> 00:24:25.890 right by, we will give you all these things and as long as you 337 00:24:26.049 --> 00:24:27.769 sign on the dotted line that you love the Lord, then we will give 338 00:24:27.769 --> 00:24:32.210 you more right now. That would be that would be awful, and that's 339 00:24:32.250 --> 00:24:36.490 why we're a little bit different from other organizations and that at this point we're 340 00:24:36.529 --> 00:24:41.680 offering the Gospel and there can be no strings attached to your decision to because 341 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.279 we don't want to create false converts. That's correct. I don't want someone 342 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.559 saying yeah, as Jesus in them a heart because I know that I'm going 343 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.680 to be able to get these free goodies right. That's I don't want that. 344 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.829 That's to me. I don't want to create false converts that I abhor 345 00:24:57.029 --> 00:25:02.109 that. So, for their sake and for the sake of the Lord, 346 00:25:02.309 --> 00:25:03.789 we want to make sure we make that plane. None of these things that 347 00:25:03.910 --> 00:25:08.539 we're offering, resources are offering, has any any connection to whether you make 348 00:25:08.579 --> 00:25:12.980 a decision for or against Jesus and see we he'll atheist. Right, we 349 00:25:14.099 --> 00:25:18.420 have. We've helped lesbian atheists that have come to the abortion center. You 350 00:25:18.500 --> 00:25:22.490 say, do lesbians, Lesbian Atheists, get pregnant? They they do, 351 00:25:22.809 --> 00:25:26.730 strangely, if we've encountered them, trust me, we have. We help 352 00:25:26.809 --> 00:25:30.650 them, whether they make a decision for Jesus or not. We help anyone 353 00:25:30.809 --> 00:25:36.359 everyone that we can in as much as we're able. So jumping into you 354 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:40.319 sharing the Gospel and kind of yeah, the way that you lay things out. 355 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.200 What are the first questions you asked? Has To do with eternal destiny, 356 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:51.150 right, heaven or hell, and I think it's good to get that 357 00:25:51.230 --> 00:25:53.269 out there. Right, it's good to get it out there. I think 358 00:25:53.269 --> 00:25:57.869 you mentioned what if you died going home? Is that how you worded it? 359 00:25:57.950 --> 00:26:00.869 Yeah, something like that. If you were hit by a car on 360 00:26:00.950 --> 00:26:03.549 the way, we can pray you're not. I always remind them. I 361 00:26:03.990 --> 00:26:06.900 want them open that happens to you. But if it did happen, yeah, 362 00:26:07.500 --> 00:26:10.539 are you going to go to heaven or hell? Yeah, now she 363 00:26:10.660 --> 00:26:12.740 said something to the effect of, well, what if I just cease to 364 00:26:12.859 --> 00:26:17.500 exist? What if I just don't exist again, she's playing at the part 365 00:26:17.539 --> 00:26:19.529 of an agnostic who, right doesn't really know whether or not there's even a 366 00:26:19.609 --> 00:26:22.769 heaven or hell. So then I made it a hypothetical right, because I 367 00:26:22.809 --> 00:26:26.730 didn't really want to get into dealing with that answer. Yeah, and that's 368 00:26:26.809 --> 00:26:30.329 I think that's wisdom. Right. Yeah, it's let the Holy Spirit do 369 00:26:30.529 --> 00:26:33.119 his work. Right. We're not going to be able to get into an 370 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:38.160 apologetic about heaven or hell and the afterlife and all this other stuff, like 371 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:42.000 you're not. It's not wise to go around that mountain continually before you even 372 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:47.079 get into sharing the Gospel. Right, just, okay, hypothetically speaking, 373 00:26:47.150 --> 00:26:49.390 what if? What if it is true that there's a heaven and a hell, 374 00:26:49.910 --> 00:26:52.910 and then you just roll with it? That's what you did. Not 375 00:26:52.029 --> 00:26:56.549 I like that. Yeah, I think most people can relate to a place 376 00:26:56.670 --> 00:27:00.710 of reward and a place of punishment, to even if it's not what you 377 00:27:00.829 --> 00:27:04.019 call heaven or Hell? Yeah, yeah, so just going right through that 378 00:27:04.220 --> 00:27:08.819 and just asking heaven or hell. She lays out like most parts, like 379 00:27:10.019 --> 00:27:14.019 like the Bible says. The Bible says each man will proclaim his own goodness. 380 00:27:14.619 --> 00:27:17.049 You give people an opportunity. Are you a good person, a bad 381 00:27:17.089 --> 00:27:21.170 person? Are you a person worthy of Heaven or hell? Most people are 382 00:27:21.170 --> 00:27:23.529 going to say, well, I'm a pretty good person. I'm not think 383 00:27:23.609 --> 00:27:26.930 she said this. I've done some bad things, but generally speaking I'm a 384 00:27:26.930 --> 00:27:32.200 good person, so probably going to heaven, all right. Yeah, and 385 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:37.200 then you jump right into the way of the Master Rate Comfort, the way 386 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.720 that he shares the Gospel. Yeah, and showing CAS Cathy, Cathy, 387 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.670 that she's not a good person, and she admitted in the end. Nope, 388 00:27:45.670 --> 00:27:48.430 I guess I really am not. Yeah, I've never had someone to 389 00:27:48.509 --> 00:27:51.829 say wow, well, I really am, and you're full of it with 390 00:27:51.950 --> 00:27:56.309 lies. Yeah, I mean what you get sometimes if you're laying out that 391 00:27:56.509 --> 00:27:57.619 you know. Have you ever told a lie? I'm a liar. I 392 00:27:57.779 --> 00:28:00.420 mean at the end you do it just like great comfort does. So you're 393 00:28:00.420 --> 00:28:07.460 a lying, blaspheming adulter at a lying, thieving blaspheming adulter at heart. 394 00:28:07.779 --> 00:28:12.529 How does that sound? Most people like, yeah, if that's the standard, 395 00:28:12.569 --> 00:28:17.930 I'm getting measured by toast. Right. Sometimes I'll get people to respond. 396 00:28:17.970 --> 00:28:21.089 Well, you know, I'm still a good person. Really, a 397 00:28:21.890 --> 00:28:25.210 liar, a thief, a blasting or an adulter, and you're still a 398 00:28:25.250 --> 00:28:27.319 good person. Yeah, then, what does a bad person look like? 399 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:33.680 They can see that person. Yeah. So I think it's good, I 400 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:38.839 think to what we've always pushed, what we've always supported and gotten behind as 401 00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.869 far as training for evangelism has been the way of the master. This is 402 00:28:42.069 --> 00:28:45.470 an effective way to share the gospel. Now, I will say this. 403 00:28:45.869 --> 00:28:53.029 Sharing People's guilt for sin and sharing the law, and are you a liar? 404 00:28:53.069 --> 00:28:56.380 All that that is actually not sharing the Gospel. Right. You're not 405 00:28:56.500 --> 00:29:03.980 sharing the Gospel. You're making groundwork. You're plowing the ground to share the 406 00:29:03.099 --> 00:29:07.140 Gospel. You're showing them why they need the Gospel, why they need to 407 00:29:07.299 --> 00:29:11.769 save your until they come to that understanding, the Gospel doesn't matter. They 408 00:29:11.849 --> 00:29:15.329 have no idea. They need Je Sus. Yet, until you've convinced them, 409 00:29:15.009 --> 00:29:21.730 you really are bad person and you are hopeless. You cannot get out 410 00:29:21.730 --> 00:29:26.799 of that cycle of Sin Yourself. And most people will ultimately agree that. 411 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.880 Yeah, that we can lay out that way. It's just like a doctor. 412 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.640 We talked about this in the past. You've got to convince someone that 413 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.960 they're sick before they're going to receive the remedy. Right, right. Yeah, 414 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.349 and the remedy, of course, is the Gospel. That's that's the 415 00:29:41.470 --> 00:29:45.710 Gospel. The remedy sharing what Jesus has done and his death is barrel's resurrection, 416 00:29:45.589 --> 00:29:49.069 but sharing the conviction of sin and the guilt that we have before God. 417 00:29:49.390 --> 00:29:53.339 That's not sharing the Gospel, but that's laying the groundwork for sharing the 418 00:29:53.420 --> 00:29:56.380 gospel. That showing people their guilt, right, they see that they need 419 00:29:56.579 --> 00:30:00.859 a relationship with Jesus, right, and then moving into the whole justice, 420 00:30:00.059 --> 00:30:04.700 the the court and and the idea that they're there is justice and that we 421 00:30:04.779 --> 00:30:10.490 all desire justice, and most people can really relate to that. One of 422 00:30:10.569 --> 00:30:15.049 the things that I didn't do that I could have done was, as she 423 00:30:15.329 --> 00:30:21.640 was really she understood justice. She seemed to truly understand consequence for sin and 424 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:26.480 the need for justice and maybe introducing the idea of justice towards her child. 425 00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.359 Yeah, and and I didn't that. That, again, was something I 426 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.440 could have. I could have used that that. I think she would have 427 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.109 been with me on that. Yeah, so, but, yeah, the 428 00:30:37.349 --> 00:30:41.430 rat comfort framework is really good. I do tweak it a little, like 429 00:30:41.430 --> 00:30:47.190 I don't exactly follow how great comfort does it in that. I spend a 430 00:30:47.269 --> 00:30:52.819 lot of time on that. Romans ten nine. Yeah, first and the 431 00:30:52.940 --> 00:30:57.539 reason for that is in where we are, so many of the women claim 432 00:30:57.740 --> 00:31:02.700 to be believers. Yeah, they'll leaven say not only do they believe in 433 00:31:02.740 --> 00:31:06.609 Jesus, believe in God, but Jesus is their Lord. Run, they 434 00:31:06.690 --> 00:31:11.410 have proclaimed him as their Lord. Yeah, and we really want to expose 435 00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:18.250 the truth or lack of truth of that statement if they are there actively rebelling 436 00:31:18.289 --> 00:31:22.960 against God in such a serious thing as killing their own child. Yeah, 437 00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.440 and you ask that question specifically, and I'll like the way that you lay 438 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:32.640 that out. If money is your Lord, then will you do anything for 439 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:37.430 money? Yeah, you will do anything to get money. Jesus is your 440 00:31:37.509 --> 00:31:41.349 Lord, she says, I'll do anything to get Jesus. Well, yes, 441 00:31:41.470 --> 00:31:45.910 you kind of reframed it. I believe you'll do anything that he says. 442 00:31:45.990 --> 00:31:48.059 You'll obey him. Right, and that's really what you're getting to, 443 00:31:48.220 --> 00:31:52.579 are you obeying God? Are you doing the things that he commands you to 444 00:31:52.700 --> 00:31:56.339 do? And, of course, in this scenario, are you obeying him 445 00:31:56.339 --> 00:32:00.930 as it concerns your Inborn Child? Obeying him by not going in and murdering 446 00:32:01.049 --> 00:32:06.730 your child? Right and also, and this can be slightly controversial, I'll 447 00:32:06.769 --> 00:32:09.289 think, for people, but as you're laying out Romans ten, if you 448 00:32:09.369 --> 00:32:14.569 confess with your mouth and believe in your heart Jesus Christ as Lord, confessor 449 00:32:14.650 --> 00:32:16.160 Math Jesus Christ as Lord, and believe in your heart that God's raised him 450 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:20.880 from the dead, you shall be saved. And you try to get them 451 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.440 to to make a profession of faith. You give them what some people might 452 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:28.839 call an invitation. Would you like to do that right now? Would you 453 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.789 like to confess Jesus as your Lord Right now? To pray and confess Jesus 454 00:32:31.829 --> 00:32:37.150 as Lord Now? She turned down that opportunity right she say something like I 455 00:32:37.309 --> 00:32:39.390 think about about it, I want to learn about it more. It's the 456 00:32:39.430 --> 00:32:43.549 first time I've heard it represented that way. I love a response like that. 457 00:32:43.750 --> 00:32:47.859 Honestly, that's what I want them to be sparked on to learn for 458 00:32:47.940 --> 00:32:52.059 themselves. It that faith has to be their own, not just because someone 459 00:32:52.140 --> 00:32:54.619 has told it. Yeah, yeah, what you don't want is trying to 460 00:32:54.700 --> 00:32:58.339 trick them into saying the sinner's prayer so you can put a notch on your 461 00:32:58.339 --> 00:33:00.930 belt. Right, I've got another one, saved or whatever. Well, 462 00:33:00.089 --> 00:33:04.170 if you, if you're considered that, just say this after me real quick. 463 00:33:04.289 --> 00:33:07.089 Trick him into quote getting saved. Yeah, again, we don't want 464 00:33:07.089 --> 00:33:10.329 to create false converts, right. Won't people who are truly convicted for their 465 00:33:10.410 --> 00:33:15.319 sin feel their guilt before God, on their need for a savior and that 466 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:20.640 are truly repent it? Right, and that might spring board into what you 467 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.400 thought was a blaring amission. Yeah, which I didn't think was was a 468 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:28.509 blaring a mission. Certainly you could talk to more about repentance and that's what 469 00:33:28.589 --> 00:33:30.190 it was. Right, right. I never, never mentioned repentance. It 470 00:33:30.349 --> 00:33:35.390 has occurred to me for a long time I really need at my fingertips a 471 00:33:35.509 --> 00:33:39.430 good repentance verse. That's all it need. Just throw in a good repentance 472 00:33:39.789 --> 00:33:44.779 verse, yeah, of which there's many, and and talk about that. 473 00:33:44.859 --> 00:33:51.099 That true repentance means more than just saying you're sorry for your sins, that 474 00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:54.299 you first I brought her to a recognition of sin. I don't know if 475 00:33:54.339 --> 00:33:59.049 I I think maybe a sense of sorrow over her sin, but I never 476 00:33:59.210 --> 00:34:07.049 talked about how true repentance means turning from this life of Sin and and you 477 00:34:07.170 --> 00:34:10.239 change your actions. If there's true repentance, you change your actions and that's 478 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.320 it. That is very critical, especially in front of an abortion center, 479 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.960 because true repentance, if you have agreed with everything that I have just shared 480 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:24.030 with you, true repentance means you're not going to go in there and kill 481 00:34:24.030 --> 00:34:28.230 your baby, right, and there are people I have actually said that too. 482 00:34:28.309 --> 00:34:30.829 So I know I don't always forget repentance, but I know sometimes I 483 00:34:30.989 --> 00:34:37.150 do, because it's not mentioned in the Romans ten nine verse, and that's 484 00:34:37.190 --> 00:34:42.380 where I'm really queuing in on on sharing the gospels. So I need to 485 00:34:42.739 --> 00:34:45.860 add a good verse regarding repentance. Yeah, I think. I think it 486 00:34:45.900 --> 00:34:50.460 would have been better. Yeah, and that's what Draymin for, is repentance 487 00:34:50.539 --> 00:34:52.929 toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus, like it talks about the book 488 00:34:52.929 --> 00:34:58.050 of facts. They preach repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus. 489 00:34:58.090 --> 00:35:01.889 Yeah, so that's what we have for you. Don't think there's anything else 490 00:35:02.010 --> 00:35:06.769 really that I wanted to touch on. It was kind of a long counseling 491 00:35:06.809 --> 00:35:08.320 session. So, yeah, then want to lay were too long at the 492 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:12.719 end and kind of breaking down critique and that sort of thing. I said, 493 00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:14.880 I think it went pretty good. Anything you want to mention before were 494 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:16.920 I will tell you I wanted to do this in eight minutes. That was 495 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.400 my goal and I kept watching the clock taking I was thinking what could I 496 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:27.590 have left out? So I do think it's important to remember we don't want 497 00:35:27.630 --> 00:35:30.349 to rush God and we don't. This is if we're going to take a 498 00:35:30.469 --> 00:35:34.949 long time with something, this is where we want to spend our time. 499 00:35:34.989 --> 00:35:39.579 I think, because we've said so many times, the heart that is willing 500 00:35:39.619 --> 00:35:45.179 to ape Bart a child is going to continue no matter how many goodies we 501 00:35:45.380 --> 00:35:50.929 give her, unless her heart has been changed towards God. Yeah, yeah, 502 00:35:51.530 --> 00:35:57.489 absolutely, and I will say that these sessions like this, sharing the 503 00:35:57.570 --> 00:36:01.610 Gospel, could happen over in the shade right yeah, or it could happen 504 00:36:01.690 --> 00:36:06.000 on the phone. It could happen on the mobileltra sound unit could help happen 505 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.920 in the pregnancy center. It could happen over coffee, breakfast, dinner. 506 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:13.400 I have ething like that. I've even texted this when a mom says I'm 507 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.559 just so busy, can you can you text, and I'll say, okay, 508 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:21.269 I will take whatever opportunity they offer me. Sure. And so, 509 00:36:21.750 --> 00:36:24.510 ultimately, though, it's the Holy Spirit that does right, the changing of 510 00:36:24.550 --> 00:36:28.070 the hearts. We have to share, we have to be faithful to share, 511 00:36:28.869 --> 00:36:30.349 but the word of God tells us to share, which I believe we 512 00:36:30.510 --> 00:36:35.619 were aiming for repentance. So we want to bring the truth of sin to 513 00:36:35.739 --> 00:36:39.260 bear. We want to lay out there saying their guilt before God and and 514 00:36:39.380 --> 00:36:44.900 then show them that Jesus is the savior, he's the remedy for the problem 515 00:36:44.940 --> 00:36:47.010 of sin. Yeah, thank you did that well. So praise God for 516 00:36:47.090 --> 00:36:51.329 that. Hope you guys were blessed as you listen to you. Please reach 517 00:36:51.369 --> 00:36:53.690 out to us if you have suggestions of future podcast. We're going to continue 518 00:36:53.730 --> 00:36:58.250 to do some of these mock sessions. We think they are blessing to people. 519 00:36:58.250 --> 00:37:01.000 We're going to continue to cover other subjects to but if you have other 520 00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:05.159 subjects in particular that we haven't yet covered that you would want us to cover, 521 00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.920 or maybe subjects we have covered that you want us to dig a little 522 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.360 deeper into we'd certainly love to do that. You can reach out to me, 523 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:14.199 Daniel, Love Life Dot Org. You can reach her, Vicky, 524 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.710 at Love Life Dot Org. And until next time, God, bless God, 525 00:37:17.789 --> 00:37:34.780 bless our love for love. Give me our love for gratitude. I 526 00:37:35.139 --> 00:37:44.099 know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious, and some that 527 00:37:44.449 --> you