Aug. 19, 2021

Sharing the Gospel - Mock Session

Sharing the Gospel - Mock Session
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Sharing the Gospel - Mock Session

This episode is part 2 of last week’s episode. In this episode, Vicky shares the Gospel with “Cathy” who is walking into the abortion center and claims to be an agnostic. We pray that this mock session will equip and encourage you. 
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This episode is part 2 of last week’s episode. In this episode, Vicky shares the Gospel with “Cathy” who is walking into the abortion center and claims to be an agnostic. We pray that this mock session will equip and encourage you. 

https://sidewalks4life.com/sharing-gospel-with-agnostic-mom/ 

WEBVTT100:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me,200:00:06.120 --> 00:00:11.349Lord, I am yours, Iam yours. I'm welcome to the300:00:11.429 --> 00:00:17.309Gospel Center Pro Life Podcast, apodcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge400:00:17.350 --> 00:00:21.350you in pro life ministry and alwayswere the focus on the Gospel. Stay500:00:21.429 --> 00:00:35.219tuned. I felt show passish touchyour heart. Welcome back to the Gospel600:00:35.259 --> 00:00:39.409Center pro life podcast. Appreciate youguys joining us. Appreciate if you guys700:00:39.450 --> 00:00:44.450would share this podcast with other peopleand, like we always do, at800:00:44.490 --> 00:00:47.369the end of this episode we're goingto give our email addresses so you could900:00:47.409 --> 00:00:53.640reach out to us with suggestions forfuture podcasts maybe some comments about this particular1000:00:53.679 --> 00:00:58.479episode. This episode is kind ofspringboarding off of our previous episode where we1100:00:58.560 --> 00:01:04.750did a mock session with Vicki andMaddie and they pretended Maddie was an agnostic1200:01:06.790 --> 00:01:10.390coming to the abortion center and wasafraid that her baby was going to be1300:01:11.870 --> 00:01:15.390going to have issues because she hadbeen drinking and had been smoking and that1400:01:15.469 --> 00:01:22.420sort of thing, which is notuncommon actually. So this episode actually springboard1500:01:22.420 --> 00:01:25.980and off of that. was kindof at the end of that last episode1600:01:25.980 --> 00:01:27.379she said, will you come overwith me in the shade here and we'll1700:01:27.379 --> 00:01:33.569talk further. This was them talkingfurther, her sharing the gospel with Maddie,1800:01:33.650 --> 00:01:37.409who's actually her name is not Sarahin this one, right, it's1900:01:37.689 --> 00:01:42.010Cathathy, Cathy, okay. So, anyway, we're going to give you2000:01:42.049 --> 00:01:46.409guys an opportunity to listen to thismock counseling session and then, as we2100:01:46.489 --> 00:01:49.719have in time past, we're goingto come and talk a little bit about2200:01:49.719 --> 00:01:51.400it, some of the things thatwent well, some of the things that2300:01:51.480 --> 00:01:56.640could have been done better. AndVicki said that there was one blaring omission2400:01:56.760 --> 00:01:59.920on her part. MM. Sowe're going to talk about what that might2500:01:59.959 --> 00:02:02.870be. Maybe you guys, asyou're listening through, try to figure out2600:02:02.909 --> 00:02:08.389what is that blaring omission on herpart and how could she never leave that2700:02:08.590 --> 00:02:13.270out again? Right, so I'llbe shamed into it. No more.2800:02:13.629 --> 00:02:16.699Yes, anything you want to addbefore we jump into the video? Obviously2900:02:16.740 --> 00:02:20.979it's a video, but right,you guys are listening on a podcast.3000:02:21.099 --> 00:02:23.819Yeah, so you're not seeing thevideo, but it's okay. The audio.3100:02:23.860 --> 00:02:25.139Yeah, it's great. We willbe able to post the videos,3200:02:25.180 --> 00:02:30.330I think, on sidewalks for life. With the article that goes along with3300:02:30.449 --> 00:02:34.129this. But the the one thingthat I wanted to add is remember this3400:02:34.370 --> 00:02:38.610is an agnostic mom this is differentfrom how I would share the gospel if3500:02:38.650 --> 00:02:42.210it was someone who has already saidI believe in Jesus, I believe in3600:02:42.289 --> 00:02:46.199God. I was really so it. There were two things that I was3700:02:46.319 --> 00:02:51.159going for here with with her beingsomeone who really didn't believe in Jesus at3800:02:51.199 --> 00:02:53.800all, and that was, firstof all, to introduce her to Jesus3900:02:53.879 --> 00:02:58.560and then to introduce the truth,the Gospel. Yeah, okay, all4000:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.909right, I guess we'll listen inand we'll be back after after this mock4100:03:02.030 --> 00:03:08.949session. Okay, so you've gotthe information and thank you so much that4200:03:09.069 --> 00:03:13.259you're willing to talk with me.Yeah, about God, I mean I'm4300:03:13.340 --> 00:03:15.539hoping it'll be life changing, andit was for me. Like I was4400:03:15.620 --> 00:03:19.060telling you, I'm post abortive andit was when I really came to grips4500:03:19.099 --> 00:03:22.699with what I had done and whenI had my first son. Is is4600:03:22.819 --> 00:03:25.979when I saw God and I andI really I found him, and the4700:03:27.060 --> 00:03:30.330Bible says that the door will beopen to all who knock. God.4800:03:30.490 --> 00:03:36.129God extends the invitation to be foundto everyone of us, all who see4900:03:36.210 --> 00:03:38.930can will find him. The Biblesays. That's what I'm hoping is that5000:03:38.969 --> 00:03:43.120at least he'll you know, you'llget a sense of of that he is.5100:03:43.680 --> 00:03:47.520He is there and he is seekingyou and waiting for you just to5200:03:49.080 --> 00:03:53.120turn to him. But but youknow what, I never got your name5300:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.430and I'm so sorry. I'm whatis your name? I'm cathy here,5400:03:57.509 --> 00:04:00.710Cathy, okay, Cathy, andyou and I'm Viking and my name and5500:04:00.750 --> 00:04:02.870numbers is on the back right.Okay, so you can talk with me5600:04:02.909 --> 00:04:06.669at any time and I know wetalked about that. We're going to help5700:04:06.710 --> 00:04:11.860you, and I want you toknow all the help we offer is completely5800:04:12.379 --> 00:04:15.459in no way contingent on how youfeel about God, not at all.5900:04:16.019 --> 00:04:21.300You reject God completely, we're stillgoing to help you because we feel called6000:04:21.379 --> 00:04:26.889by God to do our best tohelp you and whatever situation you face.6100:04:27.209 --> 00:04:31.050Okay, so why don't we startwith just I hope this doesn't happen,6200:04:31.129 --> 00:04:33.449but if you were to, youknow, get in your car and drive6300:04:33.449 --> 00:04:36.730away and getting an accent and die, where do you think you'd be going?6400:04:38.490 --> 00:04:42.279Heaven or Hell? I don't know. What if you just like cease6500:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.639to exist. Okay, so youmight, you might cease to exist.6600:04:45.720 --> 00:04:47.720Let's say that there is a heavenand there is a hell, place to6700:04:47.879 --> 00:04:55.110reward, enjoy an eternal the thespirit is eternal, and there's a place6800:04:55.149 --> 00:04:58.550where God is. I mean thebottle certainly talks about heaven and a hell.6900:04:59.189 --> 00:05:01.670Heaven where you're with God for alleternity. Hell, we are,7000:05:01.750 --> 00:05:08.980you are separated from God in eternaltorment for all eternity. So where do7100:05:09.060 --> 00:05:12.379you think if it thinking about yourlife, where do you think you would7200:05:12.379 --> 00:05:17.620be going? I don't know.I mean I've done some pretty bad stuff7300:05:17.620 --> 00:05:20.689but like, for the most partI've been pretty good and I'm not I7400:05:20.730 --> 00:05:25.769don't like het people in general orsaying okay, so you're pretty good person.7500:05:25.850 --> 00:05:28.930Like if there was a scale andyou wage your good and bad on7600:05:29.009 --> 00:05:31.610the scale, good tips a littlebit higher than bad, a little bit.7700:05:31.649 --> 00:05:34.050Yeah, okay. Let me askyou some questions. Have you ever7800:05:34.170 --> 00:05:39.759told a lie? Yeah, okay. What does that make you're okay.7900:05:39.920 --> 00:05:45.839Have you ever stolen something? OhYeah, yeah, does that make you8000:05:46.519 --> 00:05:50.269a thief? Okay. Have youever taken the Lord's name in vain?8100:05:50.430 --> 00:05:54.670You know what I mean by that, like if you my gosh, or8200:05:54.829 --> 00:05:59.110yeah, yeah, but you yeah, or Jesus Christ, and use it8300:05:59.189 --> 00:06:04.100as a cuss word, really anexclamation of surprise or anger, cussing and8400:06:05.220 --> 00:06:11.300anger and hurling it at someone.Have you ever done that? But the8500:06:11.420 --> 00:06:15.540okay, IE, I have twoand the Bible takes that very seriously.8600:06:15.579 --> 00:06:18.850It's called blasphemy. So you andI are blasphemers according to the Bible.8700:06:19.490 --> 00:06:24.569How about, have you ever lookedwith lust upon someone you're not married to?8800:06:24.689 --> 00:06:27.649Let me ask you how you married. Okay, and you're pregnant,8900:06:27.810 --> 00:06:31.449so we know the answer their question. Okay. And and the Bible says9000:06:31.490 --> 00:06:38.160that if you even look with lustupon someone that you're not married to,9100:06:38.720 --> 00:06:42.920you've committed adultery in your heart.So, according to the standard of the9200:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.430Bible, which everything begins in theheart, all sin begins in the heart.9300:06:46.509 --> 00:06:51.470And according to the biblical standard,if you've looked, even looked with9400:06:51.550 --> 00:06:56.790lust upon a man you're not marriedto, you've committed adultery, makes you9500:06:57.269 --> 00:07:02.019an adulterer right according to this rightnow. How about, have you ever9600:07:02.060 --> 00:07:08.220murdered? No, no, okay. How about if you took that human9700:07:08.300 --> 00:07:11.779beings life, would that be murder? I guess it depends on what you9800:07:11.899 --> 00:07:15.699consider murder. Okay, I'm well, murders the taking of an innocent human9900:07:15.769 --> 00:07:20.370life. Is that human being innocent? Yes, yeah, I mean I10000:07:20.410 --> 00:07:24.490guess it is. And it's ahuman being right with other human DNA from10100:07:24.490 --> 00:07:29.529the moment of conception. So so, by that standard, you would murder10200:07:29.649 --> 00:07:31.439if you went in there and killedyour baby. Without a doubt that that's10300:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.600taking of an innocent human life.But do you know that the Bible says10400:07:35.000 --> 00:07:39.879that if you even call your brotherRocco, which means fool, you've murdered10500:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.560him in your heart. Again,that heart thing. But the Bible keeps10600:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.829coming back to our heart and whathappens in our heart. That's where all10700:07:46.149 --> 00:07:50.069sin begins. We think about it, we dwell on it, then we10800:07:50.189 --> 00:07:55.389do it, we take action.That's the progression of sin. So you10900:07:55.629 --> 00:08:01.660have just admitted that you are alying, thieving, blaspheming, adulter,11000:08:01.939 --> 00:08:05.779is murderer. That's five of thetime. Commanders, do you still look11100:08:05.860 --> 00:08:11.620so good? No, no,not really really. So you're not alone.11200:08:11.660 --> 00:08:13.810The Bible says that all have sinnedand, Paul Short of the glory11300:08:13.889 --> 00:08:18.370of God, all of us allof us in and you can see on11400:08:18.449 --> 00:08:20.129that list, as I was goingthrough it, you're probably being alone lies11500:08:20.209 --> 00:08:24.970or not so bad right. Well, stealing things once in a while for11600:08:24.050 --> 00:08:26.360a good reason, maybe as night. But as the list progressed, I11700:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.360think you were beginning to kind ofthink, wow, that's sin. has11800:08:30.399 --> 00:08:35.440kind of added up and and andit's pretty pretty significant in my life.11900:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.480So all have sinned and false showthe glory of God, and the Bible12000:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.629also says that there's a penalty forsin. For example, you have a12100:08:43.750 --> 00:08:46.269mother and you were a child,and when you were a child, if12200:08:46.309 --> 00:08:54.389your mother had not had consequences,punishment for your wrongdoing, would you have12300:08:54.509 --> 00:08:58.460grown up to be a responsible,good human being? Do you think?12400:08:58.500 --> 00:09:01.779I don't think either one of usare responsible good you. Okay, so12500:09:01.980 --> 00:09:05.059maybe she'd. Maybe she didn't dothat right, maybe she didn't discipline you,12600:09:05.419 --> 00:09:09.570and maybe that's part of why you'veled down a path we're kind of12700:09:09.730 --> 00:09:13.690yours, maybe looking now with alittle bit of regret on some of the12800:09:13.809 --> 00:09:20.730things you've done. So so thereis a penalty. Even a parent,12900:09:20.850 --> 00:09:24.639a good parent of course, disciplinestheir child. God, if he's the13000:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.200god of the Bible, that I'mclaiming he is, then he is the13100:09:28.279 --> 00:09:33.240best parent. He is a perfectparent in fact, because if he created13200:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.990everything, then he is mighty aboveall else, and if he has created13300:09:41.230 --> 00:09:46.710these people, he has the rightto do with them whatever he desires.13400:09:46.389 --> 00:09:50.389And one of the things he hasdone is he's given us his commandments,13500:09:50.789 --> 00:09:56.299his law, and we've broken them. And if, if we've broken the13600:09:56.299 --> 00:10:01.620law in in a real court house, let's say you were in you were13700:10:01.700 --> 00:10:07.610in court and you had committed murderand they knew you'd committed murder and and13800:10:07.649 --> 00:10:11.169they the judge says, how doyou how do you plead anything? Guilty,13900:10:11.210 --> 00:10:13.529because you know you're guilty, butyou say, but I'm really sorry.14000:10:13.809 --> 00:10:18.450Most of the time I'm good,and let's you know, on one14100:10:18.450 --> 00:10:22.440of my bad days, that Icommitted murder, but I promise I won't14200:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.759do it again and I think youshould let me go free. Would he14300:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.559be a good judge if he letyou go free? No, no,14400:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.440because you have a sense of justice. Right there, that's not justice.14500:10:35.909 --> 00:10:37.909Well, why do you think youhave a sense of justice? Have you14600:10:37.950 --> 00:10:41.429ever thought about that? I'll tellyou why. Because there the Creator is14700:10:41.549 --> 00:10:46.029universe, who we are made inthe image of the Bible says, is14800:10:46.070 --> 00:10:48.110a god of justice. He's gota love. He loves you so much,14900:10:48.470 --> 00:10:52.460just as your mother hopefully loved youso much, or someone in your15000:10:52.500 --> 00:10:56.340life, I'm sure, loved andcared about you. But it's not love15100:10:56.779 --> 00:11:01.980if we just let you run wildwith no restrictions, no boundaries, no15200:11:01.100 --> 00:11:07.370laws, and if, when youbreak those laws, there isn't justice and15300:11:07.490 --> 00:11:13.850you're returned to a right relationship withthat, with your parent, with ever15400:11:13.009 --> 00:11:22.320who it was who who you've brokethe law, and justice is served by15500:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.879their being some sort of consequence.Right. Well, the Bible says the15600:11:26.960 --> 00:11:31.519penalty for sin is death. That'sthe consequence hell, eternal separation from God.15700:11:31.679 --> 00:11:37.870And that makes sense when you thinkabout like that courtroom scene. Right,15800:11:39.149 --> 00:11:43.070there has to be a penalty,especially when you've committed something serious us,15900:11:43.149 --> 00:11:46.700like murder. But what if thejudge said to you, look,16000:11:48.419 --> 00:11:52.179Cathy, I know you're guilty ofmurder. The state requires the penalty for16100:11:52.179 --> 00:11:56.100murder is the electric chair. Thatpenalty must be paid and I'm going to16200:11:56.139 --> 00:11:58.580make a deal with you now.No judge on earth is ever going to16300:11:58.620 --> 00:12:03.169do this, but let's just pretendhe has. The power and willingness to16400:12:03.210 --> 00:12:05.370do this. What if he says, I'm going to make a deal with16500:12:05.450 --> 00:12:07.889you because, you know what,you're young, I've lived a full,16600:12:09.009 --> 00:12:13.009long life and and I just careabout you, and instead of you going16700:12:13.090 --> 00:12:18.080to the electric chair, I'll goin your place. I will pay the16800:12:18.159 --> 00:12:20.440penalty that you deserve. Now,you see, no judge ever going to16900:12:20.519 --> 00:12:22.960really do that. But but ifhe did, you have a choice to17000:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.639make. Right if you say tothat judge, wow, that's amazing,17100:12:26.720 --> 00:12:31.629I can't believe you would do thatfor me, but thank you. Sure,17200:12:33.070 --> 00:12:35.429then who's going to go to theelectric chair? You were the judge,17300:12:37.669 --> 00:12:41.269the judge, the judge. Couldyou've accepted what he's going to do17400:12:41.429 --> 00:12:43.230for you? You can't believe it, but he's going to. So the17500:12:43.269 --> 00:12:48.460judge goes, and who is setfree? Me? You. If,17600:12:48.580 --> 00:12:50.340on the other hand, the judgemakes that offer and you say had no17700:12:50.460 --> 00:12:54.019way, I know you're just tryingto trick me. I'm pretty sure you17800:12:54.019 --> 00:13:00.529wouldn't do it anyway, and besidesthat, it's honestly not pair. I17900:13:00.610 --> 00:13:05.090can't let you do that. Thenwho goes to the electric chair? You?18000:13:05.649 --> 00:13:09.409Well, in a similar way,it's not perfect, analogy at all.18100:13:09.450 --> 00:13:13.080Analogies always fall short. But ina similar way, that's the deal18200:13:13.679 --> 00:13:18.480God makes with us. He SentJesus, is only begotten Son, the18300:13:18.519 --> 00:13:26.960Bible says, fully human but fullyman, to Earth with one purpose,18400:13:26.870 --> 00:13:31.750that he was to live a perfectsinless life, which he did. In18500:13:31.789 --> 00:13:37.269the Bible is a historical book.There is no account of Jesus ever sinning.18600:13:37.590 --> 00:13:41.230There were other books written at thattime period. None of them accused18700:13:41.230 --> 00:13:46.019Jesus Sin Never. He never committeda sin. Did he owe the penalty18800:13:46.139 --> 00:13:48.500for death? No, the penaltyfor sin, which is death. No,18900:13:48.860 --> 00:13:52.620he did not owe it. Right, right, you do. I19000:13:52.860 --> 00:13:56.809do. In fact everyone does,because we've all sinned and fall short of19100:13:56.850 --> 00:14:01.730God's glory, and the penalty forsin is death. So Jesus lived thirty19200:14:01.809 --> 00:14:07.049three years on earth. Willingly said, I will pay the penalty. You19300:14:07.610 --> 00:14:11.960me, everyone in that abortion centerand on this street. Everyone the penalty19400:14:13.080 --> 00:14:18.159we all own. He would goto the devastating death, the horrific,19500:14:18.559 --> 00:14:24.750just tormentous death of the Cross topay the penalty for sin that we deserved.19600:14:24.149 --> 00:14:26.269Do you know about the cross?That? It's hard to grow up19700:14:26.309 --> 00:14:30.149in America not know about the Crustianyeah, and so you know, Jesus19800:14:30.190 --> 00:14:35.990went to the cross, did thisterrible death and three days later Easter,19900:14:35.590 --> 00:14:41.220the what we celebrated Easter. Herose from the dead. Now, first20000:14:41.259 --> 00:14:45.340of all, that proves two things. Right, can you rise from the20100:14:45.379 --> 00:14:50.379dead? How about how to drive? I don't think so. Now proves20200:14:50.419 --> 00:14:52.889he's God, he's something, notUS anyway. Right, right, when20300:14:52.929 --> 00:14:58.730he rose from the dead, fromthe dead. What did he overcome that?20400:14:58.210 --> 00:15:03.929Yeah, he overcame death. SoHe's proving that he has the power20500:15:05.690 --> 00:15:11.320to overcome the penalty for sin,the you and I own. He overcame20600:15:11.440 --> 00:15:15.720death, he overcame sin, hepaid the penalty for every bit of it20700:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.799for us. Now, how dowe know he rose from the dead?20800:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.950I'm not going to say that thereis an element of faith. There is,20900:15:22.509 --> 00:15:26.549but there are some very convincing evidenceof that. Again, there were21000:15:26.590 --> 00:15:31.029books written at the same time periodthat talk about this, this huge influx21100:15:31.149 --> 00:15:37.580of followers of this man who supposedlydied on on the cross, and these21200:15:37.700 --> 00:15:43.740followers are saying they saw him risen, risen from the dead. Those are21300:15:43.139 --> 00:15:48.899extra biblical books. The Bible saysthat he rose from the dead and we21400:15:50.129 --> 00:15:56.250know from history that everyone except forone of the apostles, the twelve men21500:15:56.370 --> 00:16:00.850that followed Jesus during his earthly ministry. Every one of them died a martyr's21600:16:00.889 --> 00:16:07.279death rather than recamped their belief thatthey saw he had risen from the dead.21700:16:07.759 --> 00:16:11.720Would you die for something that youknew was alive? If you knew21800:16:12.240 --> 00:16:18.120he had not risen from the dead, would you say no, go ahead21900:16:18.120 --> 00:16:22.789and kill me, he rose fromthe dead. Never but all of the22000:16:22.870 --> 00:16:26.750just top a disciples, but oneone of them prison after death. All22100:16:26.830 --> 00:16:32.269of the rest of them died ahorrific martyr's death rather than we can't the22200:16:32.350 --> 00:16:37.220truth that Jesus rose from the dead. So I'm going to read you one22300:16:37.259 --> 00:16:41.899of my favorite verses. It's Romansten nine. If you declare with your22400:16:41.940 --> 00:16:48.129mouth that Jesus is Lord and believein your heart that God raised him from22500:16:48.129 --> 00:16:51.889the dead, you will be saved. And I want to just talk about22600:16:51.889 --> 00:16:56.330that a little. If you declearwith your mouth, speak it that Jesus22700:16:56.370 --> 00:17:00.450is Lord, what do you thinkthat means? Jesus is Lord. What22800:17:00.730 --> 00:17:03.720is Lord? What is the Lordof Your Life? What does that mean?22900:17:04.559 --> 00:17:08.599Like if money was Lord, wouldyou do anything to get money?23000:17:10.920 --> 00:17:14.599Probably, if it was Lord.Right. So what if Jesus is Lord,23100:17:14.640 --> 00:17:17.750what do you think that means?Through anything to get Jesus, do23200:17:17.950 --> 00:17:22.390anything to get Jesus do everything hesays right. And he says that in23300:17:22.509 --> 00:17:25.470the Bible. He says, ifyou love me, you will obey me.23400:17:26.430 --> 00:17:29.549That's how we show our love ofJesus. And he also says in23500:17:29.670 --> 00:17:32.299other verses, why do you callme Lord, Lord, and not do23600:17:32.539 --> 00:17:34.619what I say? So He's sayingif you're not doing what I'm saying,23700:17:34.900 --> 00:17:40.500if you're murdering, if you're lying, if you're blasphemy and you're continuing in23800:17:40.700 --> 00:17:45.809that, then he's not more.But if he is Lord, if you're23900:17:45.849 --> 00:17:48.130going to call him Lord, hewill do what he says. That's what24000:17:48.289 --> 00:17:52.609this first says. So if youdeclare with your mouth that he's Lord,24100:17:52.650 --> 00:17:55.690believe in your heart that God raisedhim from the dead, like those twelve24200:17:55.769 --> 00:18:00.880disciples and all those witnesses that sawhim, and now us today that look24300:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.960at the evidence of this incredible creation, of the fact that you're alive,24400:18:04.480 --> 00:18:10.440of the fact that the womb hasis perfectly designed for the miracle of life,24500:18:10.960 --> 00:18:17.349that of the design of even astrand of DNA is just so intricate24600:18:18.710 --> 00:18:22.829that there is a creator, andif you believe that that creator tears about24700:18:22.950 --> 00:18:26.390you and rose from the dead,then you will be saved. And what24800:18:26.509 --> 00:18:30.779that means is you can have eternallife with Jesus, with God, and24900:18:30.940 --> 00:18:37.380the beautiful result, the Bible tellsus, is that the Holy Spirit enters25000:18:37.420 --> 00:18:42.849our heart at that moment when wesubmit our life to Jesus. He enters25100:18:42.890 --> 00:18:51.490our heart and guides us into allrighteousness, so that this burden that you25200:18:51.650 --> 00:18:56.839have probably fought, this terribly wearyingburden of sin that has led you to25300:18:57.000 --> 00:19:03.119a place how but you never thoughtyou'd come that burden of sin, it25400:19:03.240 --> 00:19:10.150is removed and instead what is replacedis a deep desire to please and follow25500:19:10.549 --> 00:19:14.750and Love God, and he willhelp you. So I want to ask25600:19:14.750 --> 00:19:18.230you, I know you've never donethat. Is that something you'd be interested25700:19:18.309 --> 00:19:22.109in doing? Some Way Out?I want to learn more about I've never25800:19:22.150 --> 00:19:26.099heard it explain that way before.Just yeah, I guess it just seems25900:19:26.099 --> 00:19:30.099like God just doesn't want us tohave a good time. It does.26000:19:30.220 --> 00:19:33.579They're now, do you understand?Maybe he's protecting you right because he's this26100:19:33.740 --> 00:19:36.619going to be a good time goingin there and carrying your baby now and26200:19:36.700 --> 00:19:40.089not at all. So I hopeit's made you think a couple of things.26300:19:40.130 --> 00:19:41.890I'd love to give you some moreinformation and I can send you.26400:19:41.970 --> 00:19:47.490I'd love to get your number,yeah, and and text, text you26500:19:47.609 --> 00:19:49.930some some sources that were you canexplore more on your own and I'd love26600:19:49.970 --> 00:19:53.480to keep talking with you about this. But at the very least, can26700:19:53.559 --> 00:19:56.880I encourage you to come with mefor an ultra sound, let's look at26800:19:56.880 --> 00:20:02.400your baby and then kind of gofrom there? Yeah, we can do26900:20:02.480 --> 00:20:03.480that. Okay, God, letyou let me. Let me just go27000:20:04.039 --> 00:20:07.589see if I can get them onthe phone and take you over there.27100:20:07.750 --> 00:20:11.869Thank you. Well, we're back. We hope that was a blessing to27200:20:11.910 --> 00:20:15.829you guys. Gotten a lot offeedback in the past from people who've said27300:20:15.829 --> 00:20:18.789that these MOX sessions were blessing.You kind of get to listen in on27400:20:18.869 --> 00:20:22.380some of the things that we mightsay as we're ministering to a mom at27500:20:22.420 --> 00:20:26.420the abortion center. So we're goingto comment on some of the things,27600:20:26.619 --> 00:20:30.660but I mean, all in all, think it is good and we told27700:20:30.700 --> 00:20:36.769you guys, to talk about orthink about the blaring omission. That thing27800:20:36.890 --> 00:20:41.569that Vicky left out of her conversationwith Cathy, but it gets Cathy and27900:20:42.009 --> 00:20:47.210sharing the Gospel with her. Somaybe we'll say that for yeah. And28000:20:47.490 --> 00:20:49.519what was that? Yeah, whatwas that thing that she forgot? I28100:20:49.599 --> 00:20:55.279didn't think it was to me andsee it as a as a blaring omission,28200:20:55.440 --> 00:20:59.039but certainly some yeah, could havefocused on yeah, I do know.28300:20:59.240 --> 00:21:03.480Just starting out, I think oneof our critiques of the last last28400:21:03.519 --> 00:21:08.549portion of this whole session was thatyou didn't get her name, and so28500:21:08.950 --> 00:21:12.349it's important that we get their name. It's not something that I get,28600:21:12.630 --> 00:21:17.750I'm sure this in the past,right away. It probably in the course28700:21:17.750 --> 00:21:21.140of the conversation. Depends on theconversation. Sometimes I'll get their name right28800:21:21.180 --> 00:21:23.220away, but I don't want tobe I don't want to come across as28900:21:23.259 --> 00:21:26.900a creeper. Right, I'm tryingto get all the day. Sure,29000:21:26.019 --> 00:21:30.380yeah, they don't want to begiven out personal information when we first meet29100:21:30.420 --> 00:21:33.450him because they have heard bad thingsabout us, they don't like us.29200:21:33.490 --> 00:21:36.490Yeah, they don't want to stopme exactly. Yeah. So, can29300:21:36.529 --> 00:21:38.130I get your name and can Igo ahead and get your email address?29400:21:38.170 --> 00:21:41.410Oh, oh, yet, wouldyou give your so security number in your29500:21:41.450 --> 00:21:44.690home agsty. I got a creditcard on you. Yeah, of course29600:21:44.730 --> 00:21:47.359wouldn't to come across this creepers.We're not trying to get information just for29700:21:47.400 --> 00:21:49.960the sake of information, but wewant to build a relationship. Having their29800:21:51.000 --> 00:21:55.240name is important in this portion.You did apologize. Hey, I think29900:21:55.279 --> 00:21:57.440get your name before right. What'syour name? She here's your name or30000:21:57.440 --> 00:22:02.470names Cathy, and you continue tominister to her from there. I want30100:22:02.470 --> 00:22:04.470to make an important point on somethingthat I want to make sure that all30200:22:04.549 --> 00:22:11.029of us in sidewalk ministry do.If we are going to be giving resources30300:22:11.670 --> 00:22:18.420to the MOM's it is very importantif you start a gospel discussion that you30400:22:18.700 --> 00:22:22.700tell them right off the bat nothingthat we offer will be affected in any30500:22:22.779 --> 00:22:26.619way by any decision you make.For Jesus, yeah, and and I30600:22:26.660 --> 00:22:30.089did, and I say that atthe GECKO. I said that at the30700:22:30.130 --> 00:22:34.250beginning of this of the session justjust that you just watched. Very important30800:22:34.450 --> 00:22:37.930we have. That was one ofthe points. Yeah, I wrote that30900:22:37.009 --> 00:22:40.410down. That's one of the pointsthat I thought was so important. Okay,31000:22:40.970 --> 00:22:44.170nothing that I say and no decisionthat you make based on what I31100:22:44.210 --> 00:22:48.640say has anything to do with whetheror not you get a free ultrasound?31200:22:48.640 --> 00:22:49.880Will or not we give you ababy shower, and none of the help31300:22:49.960 --> 00:22:53.839that we offer is connected with whatdecision you make. Now we have been31400:22:53.880 --> 00:22:59.430accused of that by proabortion people andand whatever else. You guys make them31500:22:59.509 --> 00:23:03.430jump through all these hoops before yougive them any resources. That has never31600:23:03.630 --> 00:23:07.869been the truth. That's right andit will never be the truth. However,31700:23:07.910 --> 00:23:11.900I will say that some organizations,mean you think about organizations like food31800:23:11.940 --> 00:23:15.500pantries and things like that, theyhave certain hoops, so to speak,31900:23:15.539 --> 00:23:21.180the people jump through. So there'sthings. There's like like we need information32000:23:21.380 --> 00:23:23.019from them, like that's a hoopthat everybody has a jump through. We32100:23:23.059 --> 00:23:26.099didn't know where you live and whoyou are if we're going to be helping32200:23:26.170 --> 00:23:29.769you, because how we're going tohelp you if we don't know who you32300:23:29.809 --> 00:23:33.170are? You know so. Butas far as like you have to do32400:23:33.490 --> 00:23:37.650this, you have to take thisclass or do that thing, we don't32500:23:37.650 --> 00:23:41.009do that. It's just not whowe are. No, we do I32600:23:41.089 --> 00:23:44.480will say, though, that theirpregnancy centers that do that, that say32700:23:44.559 --> 00:23:48.640you need to be enrolled in theseclasses, the parenting classes, to get32800:23:48.720 --> 00:23:51.680certain things. I don't see anythingwrong with that? No, I don't32900:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.079either. They're giving a service.Yeah, I think it's wisdom, but33000:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.549as far as we're concerned, theresources that we offer they're connected with,33100:23:57.630 --> 00:24:03.309with just US knowing who they are, connecting them with the mentor. Often33200:24:03.349 --> 00:24:08.390times we talked about that, thatmentors going to give them those those different33300:24:08.549 --> 00:24:12.500resources and things like that. Butit's not like in order to get a33400:24:12.539 --> 00:24:15.779mentor they have to ask Jesus intotheir heart, anything like that. That33500:24:17.099 --> 00:24:22.220would be so unbiblical to say yeah, you can, you can earn Jesus33600:24:22.259 --> 00:24:25.890right by, we will give youall these things and as long as you33700:24:26.049 --> 00:24:27.769sign on the dotted line that youlove the Lord, then we will give33800:24:27.769 --> 00:24:32.210you more right now. That wouldbe that would be awful, and that's33900:24:32.250 --> 00:24:36.490why we're a little bit different fromother organizations and that at this point we're34000:24:36.529 --> 00:24:41.680offering the Gospel and there can beno strings attached to your decision to because34100:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.279we don't want to create false converts. That's correct. I don't want someone34200:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.559saying yeah, as Jesus in thema heart because I know that I'm going34300:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.680to be able to get these freegoodies right. That's I don't want that.34400:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.829That's to me. I don't wantto create false converts that I abhor34500:24:57.029 --> 00:25:02.109that. So, for their sakeand for the sake of the Lord,34600:25:02.309 --> 00:25:03.789we want to make sure we makethat plane. None of these things that34700:25:03.910 --> 00:25:08.539we're offering, resources are offering,has any any connection to whether you make34800:25:08.579 --> 00:25:12.980a decision for or against Jesus andsee we he'll atheist. Right, we34900:25:14.099 --> 00:25:18.420have. We've helped lesbian atheists thathave come to the abortion center. You35000:25:18.500 --> 00:25:22.490say, do lesbians, Lesbian Atheists, get pregnant? They they do,35100:25:22.809 --> 00:25:26.730strangely, if we've encountered them,trust me, we have. We help35200:25:26.809 --> 00:25:30.650them, whether they make a decisionfor Jesus or not. We help anyone35300:25:30.809 --> 00:25:36.359everyone that we can in as muchas we're able. So jumping into you35400:25:36.519 --> 00:25:40.319sharing the Gospel and kind of yeah, the way that you lay things out.35500:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.200What are the first questions you asked? Has To do with eternal destiny,35600:25:45.240 --> 00:25:51.150right, heaven or hell, andI think it's good to get that35700:25:51.230 --> 00:25:53.269out there. Right, it's goodto get it out there. I think35800:25:53.269 --> 00:25:57.869you mentioned what if you died goinghome? Is that how you worded it?35900:25:57.950 --> 00:26:00.869Yeah, something like that. Ifyou were hit by a car on36000:26:00.950 --> 00:26:03.549the way, we can pray you'renot. I always remind them. I36100:26:03.990 --> 00:26:06.900want them open that happens to you. But if it did happen, yeah,36200:26:07.500 --> 00:26:10.539are you going to go to heavenor hell? Yeah, now she36300:26:10.660 --> 00:26:12.740said something to the effect of,well, what if I just cease to36400:26:12.859 --> 00:26:17.500exist? What if I just don'texist again, she's playing at the part36500:26:17.539 --> 00:26:19.529of an agnostic who, right doesn'treally know whether or not there's even a36600:26:19.609 --> 00:26:22.769heaven or hell. So then Imade it a hypothetical right, because I36700:26:22.809 --> 00:26:26.730didn't really want to get into dealingwith that answer. Yeah, and that's36800:26:26.809 --> 00:26:30.329I think that's wisdom. Right.Yeah, it's let the Holy Spirit do36900:26:30.529 --> 00:26:33.119his work. Right. We're notgoing to be able to get into an37000:26:33.160 --> 00:26:38.160apologetic about heaven or hell and theafterlife and all this other stuff, like37100:26:38.319 --> 00:26:42.000you're not. It's not wise togo around that mountain continually before you even37200:26:42.039 --> 00:26:47.079get into sharing the Gospel. Right, just, okay, hypothetically speaking,37300:26:47.150 --> 00:26:49.390what if? What if it istrue that there's a heaven and a hell,37400:26:49.910 --> 00:26:52.910and then you just roll with it? That's what you did. Not37500:26:52.029 --> 00:26:56.549I like that. Yeah, Ithink most people can relate to a place37600:26:56.670 --> 00:27:00.710of reward and a place of punishment, to even if it's not what you37700:27:00.829 --> 00:27:04.019call heaven or Hell? Yeah,yeah, so just going right through that37800:27:04.220 --> 00:27:08.819and just asking heaven or hell.She lays out like most parts, like37900:27:10.019 --> 00:27:14.019like the Bible says. The Biblesays each man will proclaim his own goodness.38000:27:14.619 --> 00:27:17.049You give people an opportunity. Areyou a good person, a bad38100:27:17.089 --> 00:27:21.170person? Are you a person worthyof Heaven or hell? Most people are38200:27:21.170 --> 00:27:23.529going to say, well, I'ma pretty good person. I'm not think38300:27:23.609 --> 00:27:26.930she said this. I've done somebad things, but generally speaking I'm a38400:27:26.930 --> 00:27:32.200good person, so probably going toheaven, all right. Yeah, and38500:27:32.359 --> 00:27:37.200then you jump right into the wayof the Master Rate Comfort, the way38600:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.720that he shares the Gospel. Yeah, and showing CAS Cathy, Cathy,38700:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.670that she's not a good person,and she admitted in the end. Nope,38800:27:45.670 --> 00:27:48.430I guess I really am not.Yeah, I've never had someone to38900:27:48.509 --> 00:27:51.829say wow, well, I reallyam, and you're full of it with39000:27:51.950 --> 00:27:56.309lies. Yeah, I mean whatyou get sometimes if you're laying out that39100:27:56.509 --> 00:27:57.619you know. Have you ever tolda lie? I'm a liar. I39200:27:57.779 --> 00:28:00.420mean at the end you do itjust like great comfort does. So you're39300:28:00.420 --> 00:28:07.460a lying, blaspheming adulter at alying, thieving blaspheming adulter at heart.39400:28:07.779 --> 00:28:12.529How does that sound? Most peoplelike, yeah, if that's the standard,39500:28:12.569 --> 00:28:17.930I'm getting measured by toast. Right. Sometimes I'll get people to respond.39600:28:17.970 --> 00:28:21.089Well, you know, I'm stilla good person. Really, a39700:28:21.890 --> 00:28:25.210liar, a thief, a blastingor an adulter, and you're still a39800:28:25.250 --> 00:28:27.319good person. Yeah, then,what does a bad person look like?39900:28:29.440 --> 00:28:33.680They can see that person. Yeah. So I think it's good, I40000:28:33.759 --> 00:28:38.839think to what we've always pushed,what we've always supported and gotten behind as40100:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.869far as training for evangelism has beenthe way of the master. This is40200:28:42.069 --> 00:28:45.470an effective way to share the gospel. Now, I will say this.40300:28:45.869 --> 00:28:53.029Sharing People's guilt for sin and sharingthe law, and are you a liar?40400:28:53.069 --> 00:28:56.380All that that is actually not sharingthe Gospel. Right. You're not40500:28:56.500 --> 00:29:03.980sharing the Gospel. You're making groundwork. You're plowing the ground to share the40600:29:03.099 --> 00:29:07.140Gospel. You're showing them why theyneed the Gospel, why they need to40700:29:07.299 --> 00:29:11.769save your until they come to thatunderstanding, the Gospel doesn't matter. They40800:29:11.849 --> 00:29:15.329have no idea. They need JeSus. Yet, until you've convinced them,40900:29:15.009 --> 00:29:21.730you really are bad person and youare hopeless. You cannot get out41000:29:21.730 --> 00:29:26.799of that cycle of Sin Yourself.And most people will ultimately agree that.41100:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.880Yeah, that we can lay outthat way. It's just like a doctor.41200:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.640We talked about this in the past. You've got to convince someone that41300:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.960they're sick before they're going to receivethe remedy. Right, right. Yeah,41400:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.349and the remedy, of course,is the Gospel. That's that's the41500:29:41.470 --> 00:29:45.710Gospel. The remedy sharing what Jesushas done and his death is barrel's resurrection,41600:29:45.589 --> 00:29:49.069but sharing the conviction of sin andthe guilt that we have before God.41700:29:49.390 --> 00:29:53.339That's not sharing the Gospel, butthat's laying the groundwork for sharing the41800:29:53.420 --> 00:29:56.380gospel. That showing people their guilt, right, they see that they need41900:29:56.579 --> 00:30:00.859a relationship with Jesus, right,and then moving into the whole justice,42000:30:00.059 --> 00:30:04.700the the court and and the ideathat they're there is justice and that we42100:30:04.779 --> 00:30:10.490all desire justice, and most peoplecan really relate to that. One of42200:30:10.569 --> 00:30:15.049the things that I didn't do thatI could have done was, as she42300:30:15.329 --> 00:30:21.640was really she understood justice. Sheseemed to truly understand consequence for sin and42400:30:21.720 --> 00:30:26.480the need for justice and maybe introducingthe idea of justice towards her child.42500:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.359Yeah, and and I didn't that. That, again, was something I42600:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.440could have. I could have usedthat that. I think she would have42700:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.109been with me on that. Yeah, so, but, yeah, the42800:30:37.349 --> 00:30:41.430rat comfort framework is really good.I do tweak it a little, like42900:30:41.430 --> 00:30:47.190I don't exactly follow how great comfortdoes it in that. I spend a43000:30:47.269 --> 00:30:52.819lot of time on that. Romansten nine. Yeah, first and the43100:30:52.940 --> 00:30:57.539reason for that is in where weare, so many of the women claim43200:30:57.740 --> 00:31:02.700to be believers. Yeah, they'llleaven say not only do they believe in43300:31:02.740 --> 00:31:06.609Jesus, believe in God, butJesus is their Lord. Run, they43400:31:06.690 --> 00:31:11.410have proclaimed him as their Lord.Yeah, and we really want to expose43500:31:11.130 --> 00:31:18.250the truth or lack of truth ofthat statement if they are there actively rebelling43600:31:18.289 --> 00:31:22.960against God in such a serious thingas killing their own child. Yeah,43700:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.440and you ask that question specifically,and I'll like the way that you lay43800:31:26.480 --> 00:31:32.640that out. If money is yourLord, then will you do anything for43900:31:32.799 --> 00:31:37.430money? Yeah, you will doanything to get money. Jesus is your44000:31:37.509 --> 00:31:41.349Lord, she says, I'll doanything to get Jesus. Well, yes,44100:31:41.470 --> 00:31:45.910you kind of reframed it. Ibelieve you'll do anything that he says.44200:31:45.990 --> 00:31:48.059You'll obey him. Right, andthat's really what you're getting to,44300:31:48.220 --> 00:31:52.579are you obeying God? Are youdoing the things that he commands you to44400:31:52.700 --> 00:31:56.339do? And, of course,in this scenario, are you obeying him44500:31:56.339 --> 00:32:00.930as it concerns your Inborn Child?Obeying him by not going in and murdering44600:32:01.049 --> 00:32:06.730your child? Right and also,and this can be slightly controversial, I'll44700:32:06.769 --> 00:32:09.289think, for people, but asyou're laying out Romans ten, if you44800:32:09.369 --> 00:32:14.569confess with your mouth and believe inyour heart Jesus Christ as Lord, confessor44900:32:14.650 --> 00:32:16.160Math Jesus Christ as Lord, andbelieve in your heart that God's raised him45000:32:16.160 --> 00:32:20.880from the dead, you shall besaved. And you try to get them45100:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.440to to make a profession of faith. You give them what some people might45200:32:24.519 --> 00:32:28.839call an invitation. Would you liketo do that right now? Would you45300:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.789like to confess Jesus as your LordRight now? To pray and confess Jesus45400:32:31.829 --> 00:32:37.150as Lord Now? She turned downthat opportunity right she say something like I45500:32:37.309 --> 00:32:39.390think about about it, I wantto learn about it more. It's the45600:32:39.430 --> 00:32:43.549first time I've heard it represented thatway. I love a response like that.45700:32:43.750 --> 00:32:47.859Honestly, that's what I want themto be sparked on to learn for45800:32:47.940 --> 00:32:52.059themselves. It that faith has tobe their own, not just because someone45900:32:52.140 --> 00:32:54.619has told it. Yeah, yeah, what you don't want is trying to46000:32:54.700 --> 00:32:58.339trick them into saying the sinner's prayerso you can put a notch on your46100:32:58.339 --> 00:33:00.930belt. Right, I've got anotherone, saved or whatever. Well,46200:33:00.089 --> 00:33:04.170if you, if you're considered that, just say this after me real quick.46300:33:04.289 --> 00:33:07.089Trick him into quote getting saved.Yeah, again, we don't want46400:33:07.089 --> 00:33:10.329to create false converts, right.Won't people who are truly convicted for their46500:33:10.410 --> 00:33:15.319sin feel their guilt before God,on their need for a savior and that46600:33:15.440 --> 00:33:20.640are truly repent it? Right,and that might spring board into what you46700:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.400thought was a blaring amission. Yeah, which I didn't think was was a46800:33:24.519 --> 00:33:28.509blaring a mission. Certainly you couldtalk to more about repentance and that's what46900:33:28.589 --> 00:33:30.190it was. Right, right.I never, never mentioned repentance. It47000:33:30.349 --> 00:33:35.390has occurred to me for a longtime I really need at my fingertips a47100:33:35.509 --> 00:33:39.430good repentance verse. That's all itneed. Just throw in a good repentance47200:33:39.789 --> 00:33:44.779verse, yeah, of which there'smany, and and talk about that.47300:33:44.859 --> 00:33:51.099That true repentance means more than justsaying you're sorry for your sins, that47400:33:51.180 --> 00:33:54.299you first I brought her to arecognition of sin. I don't know if47500:33:54.339 --> 00:33:59.049I I think maybe a sense ofsorrow over her sin, but I never47600:33:59.210 --> 00:34:07.049talked about how true repentance means turningfrom this life of Sin and and you47700:34:07.170 --> 00:34:10.239change your actions. If there's truerepentance, you change your actions and that's47800:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.320it. That is very critical,especially in front of an abortion center,47900:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.960because true repentance, if you haveagreed with everything that I have just shared48000:34:21.039 --> 00:34:24.030with you, true repentance means you'renot going to go in there and kill48100:34:24.030 --> 00:34:28.230your baby, right, and thereare people I have actually said that too.48200:34:28.309 --> 00:34:30.829So I know I don't always forgetrepentance, but I know sometimes I48300:34:30.989 --> 00:34:37.150do, because it's not mentioned inthe Romans ten nine verse, and that's48400:34:37.190 --> 00:34:42.380where I'm really queuing in on onsharing the gospels. So I need to48500:34:42.739 --> 00:34:45.860add a good verse regarding repentance.Yeah, I think. I think it48600:34:45.900 --> 00:34:50.460would have been better. Yeah,and that's what Draymin for, is repentance48700:34:50.539 --> 00:34:52.929toward God and faith toward the LordJesus, like it talks about the book48800:34:52.929 --> 00:34:58.050of facts. They preach repentance towardGod and faith toward the Lord Jesus.48900:34:58.090 --> 00:35:01.889Yeah, so that's what we havefor you. Don't think there's anything else49000:35:02.010 --> 00:35:06.769really that I wanted to touch on. It was kind of a long counseling49100:35:06.809 --> 00:35:08.320session. So, yeah, thenwant to lay were too long at the49200:35:08.400 --> 00:35:12.719end and kind of breaking down critiqueand that sort of thing. I said,49300:35:12.719 --> 00:35:14.880I think it went pretty good.Anything you want to mention before were49400:35:15.159 --> 00:35:16.920I will tell you I wanted todo this in eight minutes. That was49500:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.400my goal and I kept watching theclock taking I was thinking what could I49600:35:21.400 --> 00:35:27.590have left out? So I dothink it's important to remember we don't want49700:35:27.630 --> 00:35:30.349to rush God and we don't.This is if we're going to take a49800:35:30.469 --> 00:35:34.949long time with something, this iswhere we want to spend our time.49900:35:34.989 --> 00:35:39.579I think, because we've said somany times, the heart that is willing50000:35:39.619 --> 00:35:45.179to ape Bart a child is goingto continue no matter how many goodies we50100:35:45.380 --> 00:35:50.929give her, unless her heart hasbeen changed towards God. Yeah, yeah,50200:35:51.530 --> 00:35:57.489absolutely, and I will say thatthese sessions like this, sharing the50300:35:57.570 --> 00:36:01.610Gospel, could happen over in theshade right yeah, or it could happen50400:36:01.690 --> 00:36:06.000on the phone. It could happenon the mobileltra sound unit could help happen50500:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.920in the pregnancy center. It couldhappen over coffee, breakfast, dinner.50600:36:08.920 --> 00:36:13.400I have ething like that. I'veeven texted this when a mom says I'm50700:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.559just so busy, can you canyou text, and I'll say, okay,50800:36:15.800 --> 00:36:21.269I will take whatever opportunity they offerme. Sure. And so,50900:36:21.750 --> 00:36:24.510ultimately, though, it's the HolySpirit that does right, the changing of51000:36:24.550 --> 00:36:28.070the hearts. We have to share, we have to be faithful to share,51100:36:28.869 --> 00:36:30.349but the word of God tells usto share, which I believe we51200:36:30.510 --> 00:36:35.619were aiming for repentance. So wewant to bring the truth of sin to51300:36:35.739 --> 00:36:39.260bear. We want to lay outthere saying their guilt before God and and51400:36:39.380 --> 00:36:44.900then show them that Jesus is thesavior, he's the remedy for the problem51500:36:44.940 --> 00:36:47.010of sin. Yeah, thank youdid that well. So praise God for51600:36:47.090 --> 00:36:51.329that. Hope you guys were blessedas you listen to you. Please reach51700:36:51.369 --> 00:36:53.690out to us if you have suggestionsof future podcast. We're going to continue51800:36:53.730 --> 00:36:58.250to do some of these mock sessions. We think they are blessing to people.51900:36:58.250 --> 00:37:01.000We're going to continue to cover othersubjects to but if you have other52000:37:01.079 --> 00:37:05.159subjects in particular that we haven't yetcovered that you would want us to cover,52100:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.920or maybe subjects we have covered thatyou want us to dig a little52200:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.360deeper into we'd certainly love to dothat. You can reach out to me,52300:37:10.440 --> 00:37:14.199Daniel, Love Life Dot Org.You can reach her, Vicky,52400:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.710at Love Life Dot Org. Anduntil next time, God, bless God,52500:37:17.789 --> 00:37:34.780bless our love for love. Giveme our love for gratitude. I52600:37:35.139 --> 00:37:44.099know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious, and some that52700:37:44.449 --> you