Aug. 20, 2020

Sharing the Gospel at an Abortion Center-Unique Challenges

Sharing the Gospel at an Abortion Center-Unique Challenges

As believers in Jesus, we should all be equipped to share the Gospel wherever the Lord calls us. However, there are some unique challenges that we face at an abortion center that make sharing the Gospel difficult. Join Vicky and Daniel as they talk...


As believers in Jesus, we should all be equipped to share the Gospel wherever the Lord calls us. However, there are some unique challenges that we face at an abortion center that make sharing the Gospel difficult. Join Vicky and Daniel as they talk through these challenges and how to overcome them.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.759 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me, 2 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:11.029 Lord, I am yours. Welcome to the Gospel Center per life podcast. 3 00:00:11.429 --> 00:00:14.750 This episode, Vicki and out talk about the unique challenges of sharing the 4 00:00:14.830 --> 00:00:19.910 Gospel at an abortion center and how to biblically overcome those challenges. Stay with 5 00:00:20.030 --> 00:00:33.380 us. I felt show passish touchs your home. Use me he there. 6 00:00:33.780 --> 00:00:38.929 Welcome to the Gospel centered pro life podcast. I'm here with Daniel Parks. 7 00:00:39.649 --> 00:00:44.689 Today. We are going to talk about the unique challenges of sharing the Gospel 8 00:00:44.729 --> 00:00:49.289 at an abortion center, because it is unique. It's not like sharing the 9 00:00:49.329 --> 00:00:54.759 Gospel at Walmart or at your local flea market, hanging out track to the 10 00:00:54.759 --> 00:01:00.759 flea market's right, and it has some unique challenges and we've really discovered that 11 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:06.269 in our years being out there. Yeah, that that there are some typical 12 00:01:06.349 --> 00:01:14.950 rationalizations, justifications that you hear and that you honestly can make matters worse by 13 00:01:15.909 --> 00:01:19.859 what you decide to share with the women and you have to became even even 14 00:01:21.140 --> 00:01:25.540 some tombs of the timing. We did a podcast some months ago about the 15 00:01:25.620 --> 00:01:30.180 message of forgiveness and that there's a real need for us to think through our 16 00:01:30.260 --> 00:01:33.650 timing as we're talking about forgiveness and those sort of things. Of course the 17 00:01:33.689 --> 00:01:38.450 Gospel includes the forgiveness of sin. So there are some challenges. There's some 18 00:01:38.569 --> 00:01:42.489 timing issues we need to talk about, some wording issues, some some some 19 00:01:42.650 --> 00:01:48.000 things that will confront in front of an abortion center that we might not confront 20 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:51.599 and other scenarios when we're sharing the Gospel. It's sound like the Gospel changes. 21 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:55.879 The Gospel doesn't. The Gospel is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. 22 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:00.760 The Gospel doesn't change, but the situations in which you are presenting the 23 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:06.109 Gospel Do. Yeah, and Paul was all things tall people and he learned 24 00:02:06.629 --> 00:02:12.229 to look at the circumstances of the people to whom he was addressing and he 25 00:02:12.349 --> 00:02:16.860 would alter his presentation based upon that and he was obviously very successful. Yeah, 26 00:02:16.979 --> 00:02:21.460 I think that is our goal. Yeah, first and foremost, I'll 27 00:02:21.860 --> 00:02:24.860 just touch real quick on the necessity of the Gospel. Oh, that's a 28 00:02:24.939 --> 00:02:29.539 great point. This is the Gospel Center, per life podcast, and we 29 00:02:29.860 --> 00:02:32.409 always have to Change Our Name and that we were certainly don't want to Change 30 00:02:32.409 --> 00:02:37.169 Our Name and we don't want to go move away from the necessity of the 31 00:02:37.250 --> 00:02:43.169 Gospel. Right understanding Romans Sixteen tells us that the Gospel is the power of 32 00:02:43.289 --> 00:02:49.759 God to salvation. We can't invent enough good strategies and ideas to trick people 33 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:52.960 into, you know, doing what God wants them to do. Know it's 34 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:57.719 the power of the Gospel and in the Holy Spirit changing a human heart. 35 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:00.870 So I want to encourage all of you guys, because we can slip into 36 00:03:00.870 --> 00:03:04.789 a mode we're involved in a ministry like prolife ministry, we're really dealing with 37 00:03:05.030 --> 00:03:09.830 life and death. We can slip into like a humanitarian effort mode and neglect 38 00:03:09.870 --> 00:03:14.539 the Gospel, make it a side issue, make the Gospel something we kind 39 00:03:14.539 --> 00:03:17.020 attack on at the end. And there are times when we can't just get 40 00:03:17.099 --> 00:03:21.180 right to the Gospel. We are dealing with life and death and we need 41 00:03:21.300 --> 00:03:23.819 to. Of course, everything we say is seasoned with the Gospel, but 42 00:03:23.939 --> 00:03:29.490 that we might need to address certain issues at this mom is facing and then 43 00:03:29.610 --> 00:03:31.650 share the gospel. But it's not something we're just doing as a side issue. 44 00:03:31.889 --> 00:03:36.250 The Gospel. It's got a season everything that we do and it's got 45 00:03:36.330 --> 00:03:38.610 to be ultimately, where we're getting to with all of our conversations is what 46 00:03:38.770 --> 00:03:43.479 God has done for lost human beings to rescue and to save them from their 47 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.919 sin. Right. And I think I've heard many people say, well, 48 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:52.560 the Gospel really is simple. Well, it is, yeah, but we 49 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:58.669 don't want to become lazy in how we present the simplicity of the Gospel, 50 00:03:58.710 --> 00:04:02.710 because there are times that we make it so simple that it becomes twisted and 51 00:04:02.750 --> 00:04:06.189 rationalized in their mind. That's what they're doing. For example, the message 52 00:04:06.189 --> 00:04:10.740 of forgiveness. Well, God will forgive us. That's the simple truth and 53 00:04:10.900 --> 00:04:13.539 therefore it's okay for me to go do whatever I want to do. And 54 00:04:13.620 --> 00:04:16.860 we know, certainly there's biblical proof that. No, that is not right 55 00:04:17.139 --> 00:04:23.459 accurate. So let's just maybe jump right into us do it. The typical 56 00:04:23.620 --> 00:04:26.889 rationalizations that we that we face. I wrote an article, as I often 57 00:04:26.930 --> 00:04:30.569 do, as we're kind of organizing our thoughts here, and there are some 58 00:04:30.769 --> 00:04:35.449 things that we have seen over and over and over again that are twisted rationalizations. 59 00:04:35.769 --> 00:04:42.519 Using the Gospel to justify killing their babies. Yeah, so one of 60 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.319 the first ones. Number One, women claim to be believers as they plan 61 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:50.240 their babies death. Yeah, we hear it over and over again, certainly 62 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:53.990 in the Bible Belt. Absolutely. Yeah, you know, I'm going to 63 00:04:54.029 --> 00:04:57.310 go and do this and God's going to forgive me. There's this mentality that 64 00:04:57.629 --> 00:05:00.629 somehow God is beholden to us, a is human beings, and he's got 65 00:05:00.709 --> 00:05:03.149 to forgive us. Right, because, after all, that's what he was 66 00:05:03.269 --> 00:05:06.180 created for, to forgive us and make us feel better about ourselves. That's 67 00:05:06.220 --> 00:05:11.259 the mentality. Yeah, and the reality, scripturally, is that we were 68 00:05:11.420 --> 00:05:15.500 created for him, by him, that we're beholding to him. He's not 69 00:05:15.620 --> 00:05:19.139 beholding to us. And God does it have to forgive anyone for anything. 70 00:05:19.180 --> 00:05:24.129 Right he he's not like some genie that if you just do this magic formula, 71 00:05:24.209 --> 00:05:28.529 somehow you're forgiven. It's more that somehow you do that magic formula and 72 00:05:28.610 --> 00:05:30.490 you're a believer. Yeah, and, and in many cases that's what they're 73 00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:36.800 saying. I'm I'm a believer and you can't tell me I'm I'm not right. 74 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:43.199 And and the fact that I'm going in to kill my child does not 75 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:48.519 demonstrate that my faith is not real or that my belief is not real. 76 00:05:49.069 --> 00:05:57.829 And our point in pointing out that that maybe they are not believers is not 77 00:05:58.750 --> 00:06:06.139 to to condemn or to to make them feel that they are less of a 78 00:06:06.300 --> 00:06:11.860 person than we are, but to point out that if they are believers, 79 00:06:12.180 --> 00:06:15.180 they won't kill their baby. Yeah, they will do what what, what 80 00:06:15.339 --> 00:06:17.459 God says. So I've got a good verse for them. This is a 81 00:06:17.500 --> 00:06:24.930 verse that I think directs, directly addresses this and and one that you can 82 00:06:24.970 --> 00:06:27.850 use if you have someone who's saying, well, I'm Jesus, is my 83 00:06:28.050 --> 00:06:30.410 Lord and you can't tell me he's not, and I'm going to go in 84 00:06:30.449 --> 00:06:33.040 there and kill my baby and then ask forgiveness. Yeah, so it's from 85 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:38.000 James to fourteen to seventeen. It's the verse. You want to read it, 86 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:42.120 sure, just save my voice. Yeah, what good is it, 87 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:46.680 my brothers, if someone says yes, faith but does not have works, 88 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.750 can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed, 89 00:06:49.790 --> 00:06:54.470 lacking daily food, and one of you says to them go in peace, 90 00:06:54.550 --> 00:06:57.629 be warm and filled, without giving them the things needed for the body, 91 00:06:57.990 --> 00:07:00.230 what good is that? So also, faith by itself, if it does 92 00:07:00.310 --> 00:07:05.779 not have works, is dead. Yeah, and so this scripture tells us 93 00:07:05.899 --> 00:07:12.300 that if you say that you have faith, yeah, that's faith. Actually 94 00:07:12.339 --> 00:07:15.970 should be demonstrated in what you do. It's not real faith, it's not 95 00:07:16.009 --> 00:07:24.089 a living faith unless it's demonstrated in what you actually do. And of course 96 00:07:24.209 --> 00:07:29.250 the Bible does not teach a works based salvation. Salvation is not by works, 97 00:07:29.850 --> 00:07:33.160 but the natural outflow of salvation, of true faith in God, is 98 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:39.959 works. You're going to do things that correspond with faith in God. And 99 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:44.040 if you're going to say that you have faith and trust in God and yet 100 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:48.029 do something so egregious as killing your child, then you've demonstrated through your actions 101 00:07:48.310 --> 00:07:51.629 that actually your faith is not real, it's not a substance of faith. 102 00:07:51.670 --> 00:07:59.620 Yeah, and and for us as a Gospel Centered Ministry, it would be 103 00:07:59.819 --> 00:08:05.420 doing a great disservice to women as they go in or as they come out, 104 00:08:05.860 --> 00:08:09.860 if they say I'm a believer, I put my faith in the Lord, 105 00:08:09.899 --> 00:08:13.889 and yet they're on their third, fourth, fifth abortion and they'll probably 106 00:08:13.930 --> 00:08:16.529 be back for a six. This is a false convert, this is not 107 00:08:16.850 --> 00:08:20.810 someone who has submitted their life to God. And so it is and I 108 00:08:20.889 --> 00:08:24.329 think, very important to challenge that. Yeah, I don't think that. 109 00:08:24.569 --> 00:08:28.560 I think it's easy for easier for us to sometimes say, well, they 110 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.200 said there a believer, yeah, and just accept that. But I don't 111 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.080 think that that is a loving thing to do. It's actually one of the 112 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.240 for me personally. I'm not testimony. One of the most loving things that 113 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:43.309 someone did to me, I'm a brother, was actually to confront me and 114 00:08:43.429 --> 00:08:46.070 say, Hey, man, your life doesn't line up with what you're saying. 115 00:08:46.149 --> 00:08:50.070 I was a false convert for about three years, claiming to be a 116 00:08:50.149 --> 00:08:54.190 Christian, yet still doing the things I've always done. Didn't change one bit, 117 00:08:56.100 --> 00:08:58.340 you know, still doing drugs and lying and I'll fornicating all the things 118 00:08:58.379 --> 00:09:01.659 that I did before. And my brother did the most loving thing that he 119 00:09:01.700 --> 00:09:05.259 could have done. He Con Front of me. He did a very graciously 120 00:09:05.700 --> 00:09:07.100 and I think there's a way that we can do it very graciously. I 121 00:09:07.220 --> 00:09:13.090 think when we confront some hypocrisy in someone's life, we need to do it 122 00:09:13.169 --> 00:09:16.490 with scripture. I'm a scriptural basis, not a based on our opinion. 123 00:09:16.690 --> 00:09:20.409 My opinion is, if you're here, you should know the Bible says that 124 00:09:20.649 --> 00:09:22.570 no murderer has eternal life in himself. Yeah, you can't be a Christian. 125 00:09:22.610 --> 00:09:26.279 Murder is impossible. So to murder your child and claim to be a 126 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:31.559 Christian or two incompatible things. Right. So either you're you're not a true 127 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.440 Christian and your false convert, or you are a true Christian and you're going 128 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:39.190 to turn away from murdering your child? That's right. And and and asking 129 00:09:39.350 --> 00:09:43.509 lots of questions to help them come to those conclusions after you've presented them with 130 00:09:43.590 --> 00:09:46.830 the truth is, as we've said in the past, a really good a 131 00:09:46.870 --> 00:09:50.190 really good strategy for helping them to admit, Hey, maybe I'm not a 132 00:09:50.350 --> 00:09:54.779 believer. Yeah, Great Comfort does that in when people say I'm a good 133 00:09:54.860 --> 00:09:58.580 person, I right. Just talked with the woman today, shared the Gospel 134 00:09:58.620 --> 00:10:01.779 with the woman today who said she was a good person. Nice. Well, 135 00:10:01.779 --> 00:10:03.980 let me ask you some questions and I'll I'll answer them as well. 136 00:10:05.179 --> 00:10:07.730 Have you ever told a lie? Have you ever stolen? Have you ever 137 00:10:07.850 --> 00:10:11.850 fornicated? Have you ever taken the Lord's name in vain? And by the 138 00:10:11.929 --> 00:10:15.210 time I'm we finished with our list of questions, I said are you a 139 00:10:15.330 --> 00:10:18.529 good person? And said, I guess I'm really not. But she came 140 00:10:18.690 --> 00:10:24.440 to that conclusion on her own and I think that that through targeted questions and 141 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:28.399 I think that we can do the same. I'm challenging people when they say 142 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.519 I'm a Christian, rather than accepting that face value, because you will hear 143 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.710 it if you're on the sidewalk of an abortion center. You will hear it 144 00:10:37.070 --> 00:10:39.350 all the time, at least if you're in the south. Now again. 145 00:10:39.789 --> 00:10:45.509 o. Our mentality has to be one of we're not just pointing these things 146 00:10:45.590 --> 00:10:48.549 out, calling them unbelievers, to make ourselves feel better, right, or 147 00:10:48.750 --> 00:10:52.179 just to tear them down. Yes, because we can do this very graciously. 148 00:10:52.299 --> 00:10:56.860 You can talk someone through and show them what the Scripture says. Yeah, 149 00:10:56.100 --> 00:11:00.740 and show them that they're they're actually not right with God, and you 150 00:11:00.779 --> 00:11:03.809 can do it in such a way there's very gracious, but forth right rather 151 00:11:03.889 --> 00:11:09.129 than just you're not just blasting land, blasting them right with some certain trees 152 00:11:09.169 --> 00:11:11.450 from the scripture. Yes, and I know for a fact that you do 153 00:11:11.730 --> 00:11:15.529 that. You for sure do that, Daniel. I could use a little 154 00:11:15.529 --> 00:11:18.210 work on it. I hammer them really hard or I'm very great. You're 155 00:11:18.210 --> 00:11:22.000 very gracious. You're very gracious. Okay. So the second one. Women 156 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:24.919 claim that it and this is what you started alluding to earlier on. Women 157 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.279 claim that it is okay to abort since God is a forgiving God. We 158 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:33.870 have dealt with that in absolute podcast, but I've heard over and over again. 159 00:11:33.870 --> 00:11:37.389 I know it's wrong, but I'm going to do this because I know 160 00:11:37.750 --> 00:11:41.309 God will forgive me. Yeah, yeah, and it's again. I think 161 00:11:41.309 --> 00:11:46.309 you'd said it well. He said you're not really asking God for forgiveness. 162 00:11:46.429 --> 00:11:50.700 You're trying to ask God for permission to kill your child. God does not 163 00:11:50.820 --> 00:11:54.580 grant us permission to disobey him. Yeah, yeah, it's not really about 164 00:11:54.580 --> 00:11:58.139 forgiveness. Is a mentality and Paul addresses it when he talks about those who 165 00:11:58.259 --> 00:12:03.529 take the mercy of God for granted. They take the grace of God as 166 00:12:03.610 --> 00:12:07.450 a license for sin. Right, and it proves that they don't know the 167 00:12:07.570 --> 00:12:11.330 Lord, they have not had a true encounter with this holy, Holy, 168 00:12:11.490 --> 00:12:16.200 Holy God. And that's in Romans six, one did one through fourteen, 169 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.919 but a where he says, what shall we say then? Are We to 170 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:22.080 continue in sin? That grace may abound, may by no means how can 171 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.759 we who died to sin still live in it? And that's a great verse 172 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.799 to to mention to mom who says I'm going to go in because I know 173 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:33.990 that God, God will forgive me. Yeah, in those situations too, 174 00:12:33.149 --> 00:12:37.029 it's good, I think, and I think it's very biblical to use analogies 175 00:12:37.990 --> 00:12:41.909 to say well, if I told you that, you know your way for 176 00:12:43.509 --> 00:12:46.179 the weekend and I'm going to break in your house and steal all your stuff. 177 00:12:46.419 --> 00:12:50.059 Yeah, but you're going to forgive me because you're a forgiving person. 178 00:12:50.179 --> 00:12:52.620 Would you be okay with that? Right? What I be a person that 179 00:12:52.700 --> 00:12:56.139 would receive your forgiveness? Yeah, of course not. Right. I'm planning 180 00:12:56.980 --> 00:13:01.129 in my own wicked heart to do evil and then, because you're nice, 181 00:13:01.289 --> 00:13:03.809 you're going to forgive me. Right. How's that going to work out for 182 00:13:03.929 --> 00:13:05.809 me? Not too good. Right, and suffer consequence. Right, and 183 00:13:05.889 --> 00:13:09.490 stories are great, and that that does often, I think, change people's 184 00:13:09.690 --> 00:13:13.919 ability to see what Paul is talking about in that verse and the flaw in 185 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.440 their own argument. So the third one is that women claim that all sin 186 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:24.080 is the same. Yeah, so abortion is not so terrible, and I'll 187 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.990 hear the the various permutations of that, but one is, have you ever 188 00:13:28.070 --> 00:13:31.350 told a lie? Well, I'm about to go, go have an abortion, 189 00:13:31.549 --> 00:13:33.950 but you're a liar. You've told lies. Yeah, and so we 190 00:13:35.149 --> 00:13:39.789 need to address that, because not all sin is the same. All Sin 191 00:13:39.950 --> 00:13:43.379 Separates US right from the glory of God, and they're they're correct in that. 192 00:13:43.100 --> 00:13:50.100 But there are magnitudes of sin and there are differing punishments for sin, 193 00:13:50.580 --> 00:13:54.259 and I know you're turning to something while you're looking there, the one I'm 194 00:13:54.259 --> 00:13:58.929 actually turned into the scripture that you have there. Okay, these are these 195 00:13:58.970 --> 00:14:01.929 are this is a great scripture, I think, addressing that and when I've 196 00:14:01.970 --> 00:14:05.049 read that to women who say all sin is the same, and I'll say, 197 00:14:05.090 --> 00:14:09.360 well, actually, Jesus himself would disagree with you. Yeah, and 198 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:13.360 we can prove that because scripture supports that. Yeah, yeah, and here 199 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:18.639 Jesus answered. This is in the John Nineteen, verse eleven. Yeah, 200 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.120 this is Jesus before pilot, right before he's about to be crucified. Jesus 201 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:26.190 answered sit and said You could have no power at all against me unless it 202 00:14:26.230 --> 00:14:30.590 had been given you from above. Therefore, the one who delivered me to 203 00:14:30.710 --> 00:14:35.350 you. As the Greater Sin Greater. So the word great or there implies 204 00:14:35.669 --> 00:14:39.059 that there's Lesser Sin. Now there can be some confusion here for people. 205 00:14:39.820 --> 00:14:43.940 You know, one of the things we deal with on a regular basis is 206 00:14:43.059 --> 00:14:48.500 just biblically illiterate people, right, people who've taken certain, I don't know, 207 00:14:48.740 --> 00:14:54.009 passages out of context or messages from the pulpit and taking them to mean 208 00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:58.289 something that that God never intended. So the idea that all sin is the 209 00:14:58.330 --> 00:15:01.610 same is not a biblical concept right at all. You can get all the 210 00:15:01.730 --> 00:15:07.009 time. This is also widespread. Yeah, and so you did with Biblical 211 00:15:07.090 --> 00:15:11.679 illiteracy and bringing the Bible into the equation and showing people actually, here's what 212 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:18.000 the Scripture says. You're confronting Biblical illiteracy and you're bringing the truth of God's 213 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.549 word into the equation. But also, again, I think helping with analogies 214 00:15:22.190 --> 00:15:26.190 is pretty helpful. You know, if you stand before an earthly judge and 215 00:15:26.350 --> 00:15:31.870 you stole a Pepsi at the store, are your consequences going to be the 216 00:15:31.950 --> 00:15:35.980 same? Is it the same as if you murdered your next door neighbor? 217 00:15:35.460 --> 00:15:39.299 Of course not. Those two things are very different. We have consequences that 218 00:15:39.419 --> 00:15:46.460 are very different for these different kinds of sins. But of course all sin 219 00:15:46.659 --> 00:15:50.049 does separate us from God. All Sin, whether you tell one little quote 220 00:15:50.049 --> 00:15:54.129 white lie or where do you kill someone, you are still separated from a 221 00:15:54.289 --> 00:15:58.169 holy God. So that is a truth. All Sin separates us, and 222 00:15:58.210 --> 00:16:02.409 you said it very well. All Sin separates us from God, but not 223 00:16:02.570 --> 00:16:06.159 all sin is the same. That's right, that's right. And what and 224 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:10.919 you know sometimes this can almost feel academic, like, okay, so big 225 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:14.960 deal, you've really made a nice organized chart of all the rationalizations. But 226 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:18.029 there's a reason why they're so important to know. Because if a woman is 227 00:16:18.190 --> 00:16:25.629 claiming that all sin is the same, and all of us probably every day 228 00:16:25.750 --> 00:16:29.350 there is like what I would call a little sin in our life. We've 229 00:16:29.389 --> 00:16:33.500 told the white lie. We've said yes, dinner taste delicious honey, when 230 00:16:33.659 --> 00:16:37.700 honestly it probably maybe didn't. We've all done that, but we all are 231 00:16:37.899 --> 00:16:41.259 not killing our babies. Yeah, and there is a difference and it's very 232 00:16:41.379 --> 00:16:48.809 important that they recognize that. Stumbling is not the same as just a free 233 00:16:48.929 --> 00:16:52.730 fall jump off of a cliff of sin. Yeah, and that's what abortionous. 234 00:16:52.809 --> 00:16:56.889 Yeah, and the reality is, no one actually believes that all sin 235 00:16:57.009 --> 00:17:02.440 is the same. No one actually believes that in their everyday life. Right, 236 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:07.799 we all know that there there are sins that are more egregious than others. 237 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:11.640 Right. There are things that people do where you wonder how in the 238 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:15.950 world could they ever do something so evil? Right, and then there are 239 00:17:17.029 --> 00:17:19.829 things that that people do that are still evil, and yet they're pretty common 240 00:17:19.869 --> 00:17:23.829 evils. Like still in a Pepsi from the grocery store or whatever it might 241 00:17:23.869 --> 00:17:27.349 be. Those things are sin and they still separate people from God. People 242 00:17:27.430 --> 00:17:32.420 that do that are still the eaves. However, we all would recognize there 243 00:17:32.460 --> 00:17:37.660 are different levels of sin. Helping a mom to understand that is can be 244 00:17:37.819 --> 00:17:40.859 helpful in giving analogies and, of course, given what the scripture says, 245 00:17:40.900 --> 00:17:45.210 totally agree. So this one is a fun one. Okay, this is 246 00:17:45.369 --> 00:17:52.490 the fourth one. Women claim that God gave us free will to choose abortion. 247 00:17:52.769 --> 00:17:55.930 Okay, it's accurate. He did. It is. Yeah, I 248 00:17:56.049 --> 00:18:00.240 mean so we do have the freedom of the will right do evil and of 249 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.880 course, as human beings, we do pretty good at doing evil, don't 250 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:07.480 we? Yes, we do pretty good. It take us free will, 251 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:11.680 YEP, and giving it to to sin. And one of the things that 252 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:15.910 I will say, and I've had conversations with many young men that come over 253 00:18:15.230 --> 00:18:18.390 on the sidewalk and they're there with their girlfriend, of their wife or an 254 00:18:18.430 --> 00:18:22.190 abortion, and they say some of the very similar didn't God give us free 255 00:18:22.230 --> 00:18:26.460 will right? And so my response typically is this, just because God gave 256 00:18:26.539 --> 00:18:30.140 you free will to do something does not mean that it's okay for you to 257 00:18:30.220 --> 00:18:33.099 do what you want to with that will. As a matter of fact, 258 00:18:33.099 --> 00:18:36.140 when you stand before him, it's what you've done with the free will that 259 00:18:36.180 --> 00:18:40.619 he's given you that you will be held accountable for. Exactly just because God 260 00:18:40.740 --> 00:18:44.970 allows you to do something doesn't mean he's okay with what you've done, and 261 00:18:45.930 --> 00:18:49.130 it can help bring some truth into the equation there and help these folks to 262 00:18:49.170 --> 00:18:53.970 think this through. It's really ridiculous statement. Just because God doesn't strike you 263 00:18:55.009 --> 00:18:56.640 dead before you do something, it means he's a Kay with what you're doing. 264 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:00.880 Right, right. So there's a very different thing between between free will 265 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:06.839 and his desire and permission. Yeah, he well, I guess he does 266 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:10.589 permit you, but his desire is clearly not in one of the best verses 267 00:19:10.750 --> 00:19:12.910 for that, I think, is Deuteronomy, three thousand nineteen to twenty. 268 00:19:12.990 --> 00:19:18.109 Yeah, maybe. Well, many of you guys probably know this scripture, 269 00:19:18.230 --> 00:19:21.390 but I call heaven and earth to witness against you that I've set before you 270 00:19:21.549 --> 00:19:25.819 life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore, choose life that you and 271 00:19:25.900 --> 00:19:29.819 your offspring may live, loving the Lord, your God, obeying his voice, 272 00:19:30.420 --> 00:19:34.259 holding fast to him, for he is your life and length of days, 273 00:19:34.539 --> 00:19:37.539 that you may dwell in the land and that the Lord, that the 274 00:19:37.609 --> 00:19:41.450 Lord swore to your father's, to Abraham, Isaac and to Jacob to give 275 00:19:41.490 --> 00:19:45.130 them. So here's this promise of God that before you is the choice of 276 00:19:45.329 --> 00:19:48.849 life, death, blessing and cursing. He gives you that choice. She's 277 00:19:48.890 --> 00:19:52.049 live. Yes, he said it before. Humanity choose life, death, 278 00:19:52.130 --> 00:19:56.079 blessing and cursing, you know. And we deal with the issue of choice 279 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:59.720 and people choosing to do what they want to do. Of course, we 280 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:03.039 mentioned before. We deal with the pro aborts that talk about choice right, 281 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:06.880 and many of them will say a woman has the right to choose abortion, 282 00:20:07.269 --> 00:20:11.829 doesn't she? And I will say yes, she does. She can choose 283 00:20:11.869 --> 00:20:14.509 to go right in that abortion. Could it can kill her child? Yeah. 284 00:20:14.589 --> 00:20:18.589 However, that choice has consequences. Listen, if abortion was illegal, 285 00:20:19.230 --> 00:20:23.819 people can still choose to kill their children. Sure, right now it's illegal 286 00:20:23.859 --> 00:20:26.779 to kill three year olds. Yeah, can a can a mother of a 287 00:20:26.859 --> 00:20:30.740 three year old choose to kill her child? She can, actually, she 288 00:20:30.900 --> 00:20:34.099 can, and that has happened. That doesn't make it right. Right. 289 00:20:34.259 --> 00:20:37.609 So the legality of it doesn't make it right. The the the fact that 290 00:20:37.730 --> 00:20:41.569 God gives people the ability to choose things doesn't make it right, that's a 291 00:20:41.650 --> 00:20:47.009 ridiculous notion. Right, ridiculous, but we hear it all the time, 292 00:20:47.089 --> 00:20:48.769 all the time, all the time. Yeah, okay, now, in 293 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:52.200 none of these is you're responding to a mom or to a dad going into 294 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.240 an abortion center, do you need to voice how ridiculous these things are to 295 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.519 them? You know, they hear what they're saying. Not Helpful, but 296 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:06.509 it is good. It is good to think through some responses not right them 297 00:21:06.549 --> 00:21:08.710 off immediately. It's easy to do because you hear these things so often. 298 00:21:08.990 --> 00:21:12.390 It's like you can probably repeat what's the next thing they're going to say because 299 00:21:12.390 --> 00:21:15.150 you hear him so often. Yeah, but again, you know our attitude. 300 00:21:17.109 --> 00:21:21.420 Listening to what they're saying is helpful and then answering with a scriptural answer, 301 00:21:21.500 --> 00:21:25.819 answering with a common sense answer is helpful. So taking the attitude that 302 00:21:25.859 --> 00:21:29.059 I'm taken to say that they're just completely ridiculous. Well, that's true, 303 00:21:29.660 --> 00:21:33.210 but that's just convey that. That's just between us. Right. Yeah, 304 00:21:33.410 --> 00:21:37.210 yeah, definitely, I think it. It's it's important to acknowledge the truth 305 00:21:37.289 --> 00:21:41.130 of what they've said. God did give us free will. I will say 306 00:21:41.130 --> 00:21:44.009 that all the time. You're correct. He did give us free will. 307 00:21:44.369 --> 00:21:48.799 But and then you counter with the scriptural truth about what he wants us to 308 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.279 do with that free will. Because she's clear, and he's very clear in 309 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.200 the first choose life. Yeah, you see, he sets before it's life 310 00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:59.759 and death. Therefore, choose life, do do the right thing, and 311 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:03.190 is basically what exactly saying. This one is one of my favorites. Not 312 00:22:04.430 --> 00:22:11.390 Women claim that Jesus is their Lord, since they asked him into their hearts. 313 00:22:11.430 --> 00:22:15.150 Yeah, so, I often share Romans ten nine. Did today. 314 00:22:15.299 --> 00:22:21.019 I always do. It's one of my favorite verses in in introducing that idea 315 00:22:21.700 --> 00:22:25.779 in the Gospel message that if you proclaim with your mouth that Jesus is Lord 316 00:22:25.819 --> 00:22:27.420 and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, then you 317 00:22:27.500 --> 00:22:33.329 will be saved. And I almost always get the response, Oh, I 318 00:22:33.450 --> 00:22:37.450 did that. Yeah, they're still abortion minded. How I did that? 319 00:22:37.650 --> 00:22:40.049 Yeah, I did that, I did that one. So kick that box 320 00:22:40.170 --> 00:22:42.730 right. Right. So, so I spend so much time focusing on on 321 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:49.160 that Jesus is Lord. Yeah, statement. Unfortunately, this is a manifestation 322 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:55.960 of some of the weak Gospel presentations that happen in churches across America. The 323 00:22:56.079 --> 00:23:00.029 easy believi is mm and basically the setup is, you know, Here's The 324 00:23:00.150 --> 00:23:04.029 Gospel, here's the problem of sin and here's the box you need to check 325 00:23:04.069 --> 00:23:07.390 to take care of that problem. Right, just pray after me, Jesus 326 00:23:07.549 --> 00:23:10.630 is Lord, and check you're safe to check the box and ready to go 327 00:23:10.910 --> 00:23:15.539 right. And the message of Repentance, renewal of the heart, regeneration, 328 00:23:17.460 --> 00:23:21.420 the message of the holiness of God, a lot of that's been neglected. 329 00:23:21.700 --> 00:23:25.619 Yeah, and so again there's this mentality that's been embraced by people that you 330 00:23:25.700 --> 00:23:30.609 know, God's almost God was created for you to fix your problems, rather 331 00:23:30.650 --> 00:23:33.410 than you were created for him. And The holiness of God is so often 332 00:23:33.490 --> 00:23:41.049 neglected. In showing this God who they'll stand before as holy really helps people 333 00:23:41.089 --> 00:23:42.799 understand it's not just check in a box, but I need to surrender my 334 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:45.640 life to him. And of course we life is surrendered to him. You're 335 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:49.119 not going to give yourself the things like for Nication, an abortion right and 336 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:53.599 sin right. He's not only holy but just, and that when you start 337 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:57.509 introducing the idea of justice. That's another thing that is really neglected, in 338 00:23:57.829 --> 00:24:03.150 my experience, at least in what I'm hearing. Maybe it is introduced in 339 00:24:03.190 --> 00:24:06.950 the churches, but I'm sure not hearing it reflected and in what the women 340 00:24:06.990 --> 00:24:12.019 are saying, because even if God were just God, then obviously God would 341 00:24:12.299 --> 00:24:18.660 demand that they not go in and kill this innocent child who has caused committed 342 00:24:18.740 --> 00:24:25.809 no crime. Yeah, and that is not justice. So I often introduce 343 00:24:25.930 --> 00:24:27.890 luke six. Well, why do you call me Lord, Lord and not 344 00:24:29.009 --> 00:24:30.569 do what I tell you? Yeah, and I say Jesus himself tells you. 345 00:24:30.609 --> 00:24:33.410 If you're going to call them Lord, you're supposed to obey him. 346 00:24:33.410 --> 00:24:37.759 Yeah, and I think breaking down that word Lord is important. Yeah, 347 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:41.200 what does that word mean? I think that Jesus. If you claim that 348 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:45.960 Jesus is your Lord, what does that mean? Yes, Lord, just 349 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:52.640 a title, or does it imply that you're actually in subjection to what he 350 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:56.349 says? Because that's what it means. It's actually can be translated master. 351 00:24:56.349 --> 00:25:00.069 Yeah, so if he's in charge, basically what it means he's in charge. 352 00:25:00.109 --> 00:25:03.309 If Jesus is in charge, is he okay with you killing your child 353 00:25:03.349 --> 00:25:07.180 that he created? And of course not. And that's a great way to 354 00:25:07.259 --> 00:25:10.420 ask it. And I think one of the big surprises for me when I 355 00:25:10.460 --> 00:25:15.539 started doing this work and sharing the Gospel on a regular basis was people would 356 00:25:15.539 --> 00:25:18.339 I would say, what does that mean when Jesus is Lord, and so 357 00:25:18.539 --> 00:25:22.170 many people could not answer that. They didn't know what they'd said it. 358 00:25:22.210 --> 00:25:26.730 Yeah, and and it was a big kind of revelation to them that they 359 00:25:26.809 --> 00:25:32.009 really had said it without knowing what that entailed, which is why they're showing 360 00:25:32.049 --> 00:25:34.799 up in an abortion center and calling Jesus Lord. Yeah, well, it's 361 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:41.279 just another now kind of a common title that people use for Jesus, just 362 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:44.359 like Jesus Christ. A lot of people can't tell you who are raising church. 363 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:47.319 What does Christ even mean? It's like is that Jesus is last name. 364 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:51.910 Know, it implies something. He's annointing when he's the Messiah, the 365 00:25:52.029 --> 00:25:55.869 Lord Jesus. Well, Lord just just the title, just something you attack 366 00:25:55.950 --> 00:25:59.950 on to the front of Jesus exactly, Mr Jesus. But it has biblically 367 00:26:00.549 --> 00:26:03.150 implies a lot more than just a title before the name of Jesus. Right, 368 00:26:03.420 --> 00:26:07.660 it's who he is. If you're a Christian in your life, he's 369 00:26:07.660 --> 00:26:11.180 your master. He gets to say what goes. That's right. That's right. 370 00:26:11.660 --> 00:26:14.259 So, and I think we actually even did a podcast where we start 371 00:26:14.259 --> 00:26:17.980 would have presented that a little bit, but but if not, this is 372 00:26:18.019 --> 00:26:22.250 a good summer. You have that. So now those are all unique concerns 373 00:26:22.529 --> 00:26:26.089 and though there's, I'm sure, many, many more, but those were 374 00:26:26.210 --> 00:26:27.690 the top five that kind of came to me as I as I was working 375 00:26:27.809 --> 00:26:30.650 on this and thinking through it. So now what do we do with that? 376 00:26:30.890 --> 00:26:36.839 How Do we present the Gospel with those unique concerns in mind, because 377 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:41.839 we do believe that that the way you present the Gospel is sometimes different depending 378 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.759 on your audience. You're presented too, in the unique issues that arise from 379 00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:49.549 the unique audience that you're speaking with. So we already mentioned the first one. 380 00:26:49.910 --> 00:26:55.190 Be Be careful about the message of forgiveness. Yeah, if the first 381 00:26:55.230 --> 00:26:59.950 thing you call out, and I have heard this from new inexperience counselors, 382 00:27:00.589 --> 00:27:03.740 Jesus loves you, he'll forgive you as they're on their way in to kill 383 00:27:03.779 --> 00:27:07.500 their baby. Is Their problem with that, Daniel? There's a big problem 384 00:27:07.500 --> 00:27:11.259 with that. Yeah, because listen, the fact is, will he forgive 385 00:27:11.339 --> 00:27:15.809 you? Not necessarily, he can. He's willing to if you repent. 386 00:27:17.690 --> 00:27:22.369 But you're offering the message of forgiveness at a at a bad time, because 387 00:27:22.369 --> 00:27:29.490 it's grasp on to as a justification for doing something so bad like killing your 388 00:27:29.529 --> 00:27:33.920 innocent child. And we shouldn't. You know, we got to share God's 389 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.119 Truth and God's word, but the message of God will forgive you is not 390 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:44.589 necessarily a biblical truth from that standpoint. It's God will forgive you if you 391 00:27:44.750 --> 00:27:48.710 repent. Yeah, and if you're given justification to a mom to kill her 392 00:27:48.750 --> 00:27:51.390 child, we certainly don't want to have any part of that. So that's 393 00:27:51.430 --> 00:27:55.910 why we need to be careful of offering the message of forgiveness in that way. 394 00:27:56.150 --> 00:28:00.180 And one of my favorite verses is he brews twenty six. If you 395 00:28:00.299 --> 00:28:03.019 willfully continue and sin, there remains no repentance for sin, but a fiery 396 00:28:03.099 --> 00:28:07.579 expectation of judgment. Yeah, and I don't even need to tell them what 397 00:28:07.700 --> 00:28:10.500 that means. I just say that verse and say, can you is this 398 00:28:10.660 --> 00:28:12.609 continuing and sin? You know the truth. You're walking in there knowing the 399 00:28:12.769 --> 00:28:18.890 truth. What does that first tell you? I think it's a huge warning 400 00:28:18.970 --> 00:28:25.369 and absolutely, and they usually agree. Yeah, so be fourth right about 401 00:28:25.450 --> 00:28:29.799 calling sin what it is. I think is the is the second takeaway. 402 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.480 Yeah, and some of the unit unique concerns. A lot of us shy 403 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:40.440 away from calling sin sin all the time, but especially in front of an 404 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:41.910 abortion center, because you don't want to make them mad at you. Yeah, 405 00:28:41.990 --> 00:28:47.589 I think that's when I when I'm careful about the words that I'm using. 406 00:28:47.789 --> 00:28:48.990 And you know, you don't want to tick them off so that you 407 00:28:49.190 --> 00:28:52.869 push them in right to the abortion center, but you can sugarcoat it so 408 00:28:52.910 --> 00:28:59.740 much that there's no awareness that what they're doing is truly heinous, ruly wrong. 409 00:29:00.299 --> 00:29:03.700 Yeah, I mean one of the things we're talking about sin and calling 410 00:29:03.819 --> 00:29:07.779 sin sin. There are those who shy away from calling abortion murder. Right, 411 00:29:07.940 --> 00:29:11.049 I did, I did for long. Yeah, and I understand that. 412 00:29:11.170 --> 00:29:14.529 Yeah, and I think there can that certainly needs to be a consideration. 413 00:29:14.849 --> 00:29:18.250 I don't think it's helpful for us to put that out, that truth 414 00:29:18.289 --> 00:29:21.410 out there like an accusation. Right, you know you're a murderer. Yes, 415 00:29:21.569 --> 00:29:25.039 as they're walking into an abortion center, because I have seen it myself. 416 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:29.279 Yeah, I've seen their feet move faster right into that abortion sen yeah, 417 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.200 I actually think, and we did, we talked about in a couple 418 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.480 episodes ago about words and words have meaning. And Yeah, I think being 419 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.470 careful with our words and saying and this is what I say often. Don't 420 00:29:41.470 --> 00:29:45.869 go in there and take the innocent life of your baby, right, because 421 00:29:45.910 --> 00:29:51.589 it's almost like abortion is murder has become almost like a mantra or something like 422 00:29:51.710 --> 00:29:55.259 that, to where it doesn't really carry the weight that we think it might. 423 00:29:55.299 --> 00:29:57.339 Yeah, but if you're using words or you're trying to describe to this 424 00:29:57.460 --> 00:30:00.980 mother, don't go in there and take the innocent life of your baby. 425 00:30:00.019 --> 00:30:04.940 We're bringing things to her mind. Hopefully that will help her to understand the 426 00:30:04.980 --> 00:30:10.769 weight of what she's really doing. Then just become some cliche statement. Abortion 427 00:30:10.930 --> 00:30:14.289 is murder. Right. So they're gentler ways to call it sin, but 428 00:30:14.450 --> 00:30:18.930 college sin down. Don't don't be afraid to point out that this is wrong. 429 00:30:18.930 --> 00:30:22.160 Yeah, we certainly don't need to convey to this mother don't go in 430 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:23.839 there and make a terrible mistake. It's not a terrible ye stake, it's 431 00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:27.160 sin. It seems its God right. I think that's why we need to 432 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:32.079 mention God as we're talking to him, like we say often, is this 433 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:33.680 something that God would ever have you to do? Would God want you to 434 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.950 take the innocent life of your child? and honestly, that can be a 435 00:30:37.990 --> 00:30:40.910 showstopper. But that happened to me today, which is why I thought that 436 00:30:40.990 --> 00:30:44.390 up. I still think it's an absolutely critical, important thing to say. 437 00:30:44.430 --> 00:30:47.430 So on one hand we're saying be careful, but on the other hand, 438 00:30:47.710 --> 00:30:49.859 don't be so careful that God is not brought into the equation. He must 439 00:30:49.859 --> 00:30:53.900 be brought into the ACCAO, the equation. A woman rolled down her window 440 00:30:53.980 --> 00:30:57.259 today. I said, we have hope and help for you. My Name 441 00:30:57.339 --> 00:31:00.859 and numbers on the back of this information. Would you take this? And 442 00:31:00.940 --> 00:31:03.930 she's smiling and and and said sure. I said you're on your way to 443 00:31:03.970 --> 00:31:07.490 the Women Center. She was, and then I said what would God have 444 00:31:07.609 --> 00:31:10.890 you do after saying that we had hope and help, and she rolled the 445 00:31:10.890 --> 00:31:14.730 window up and drop away and Yep, into the abortion center. Maybe I 446 00:31:14.769 --> 00:31:18.130 should have done something different, but it is usually what I introduced very, 447 00:31:18.210 --> 00:31:22.279 very quickly and and hopefully you know that that percolates in their heart while they're 448 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.279 sitting in there. Yeah, so timing is important. Yeah, it is. 449 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.519 We don't always know the exact right timing, but listen, if we 450 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.190 knew, if we knew the D from the beginning, I think are counseling 451 00:31:33.230 --> 00:31:37.630 sessions would be far more effective. But we don't, but we don't. 452 00:31:37.670 --> 00:31:38.670 So we do our best. So we do the best we can with the 453 00:31:38.750 --> 00:31:44.150 information that we have and we need to be truthful and do things scripturally right. 454 00:31:44.309 --> 00:31:47.539 So again, mentioning God, or whether that made her roll the window 455 00:31:47.539 --> 00:31:51.740 up faster or who knows. Who knows what the next thing you could have 456 00:31:51.779 --> 00:31:53.700 said could have been something that about resources and she rolled her window up. 457 00:31:53.740 --> 00:31:57.099 Yeah, but but I have had the opposite response where I've said what would 458 00:31:57.099 --> 00:32:00.690 God have you do when they cry, and then I'm able to speak more 459 00:32:00.849 --> 00:32:05.369 truth than they go on the RV. So I I bet any way about 460 00:32:05.369 --> 00:32:08.930 it, whether they whether that statement sends them running or not. That statement, 461 00:32:09.089 --> 00:32:13.250 I think, is an important statement that needs to be set at some 462 00:32:13.490 --> 00:32:15.039 point early on. Yeah, well, would God have you do, or 463 00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:20.119 something along those lines, introducing God. We you had already touched on this 464 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.440 one a little bit. To take the time to explain what real repentance means. 465 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:28.720 Yeah, because I don't think that it's right right now. It's not, 466 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.430 and I think it is important. Again, like we talked about before, 467 00:32:32.470 --> 00:32:37.630 words do matter and using words, biblical words like repentance, can be 468 00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:43.670 helpful. It's a biblical word. But then explaining that word is helpful as 469 00:32:43.710 --> 00:32:45.420 well. Yeah, so when you have a one on one you know a 470 00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:49.700 lot of what we're talking about. We're not talking about calling out across the 471 00:32:49.779 --> 00:32:52.539 parking lot at the abortion centers cases. The talking about one on one interactions 472 00:32:52.900 --> 00:32:58.140 with most of these cases, and so you have time to explain your words. 473 00:32:58.539 --> 00:33:00.289 You have time to explain. And so when I talk about repentance, 474 00:33:00.410 --> 00:33:05.930 you God calls you to repent, I will always, almost always at least, 475 00:33:06.289 --> 00:33:08.769 follow that up with that means to turn away from sin, that means 476 00:33:08.890 --> 00:33:13.559 to stop doing the things you know are offensive to the Lord. It's more 477 00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:16.559 give deminish sorry, because that's what they'll say when I'll say what is repentance 478 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:20.359 mean? That's what I hear so often. It means you say you're sorry. 479 00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:22.640 Yeah, it's much more. It is much more that you're sorry. 480 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:24.880 Yeah, I mean one of the things, if I have the time to 481 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:30.829 lay out, it's actually a turning of your heart, your mind and your 482 00:33:30.910 --> 00:33:34.349 feet away from those things that are offensive to the Lord, the things that 483 00:33:34.430 --> 00:33:36.829 he would never have you to do. Yeah, I like that heart, 484 00:33:36.869 --> 00:33:39.309 mind and your feet. Yes, that's actually a really good statement and that's 485 00:33:39.349 --> 00:33:45.380 actually the biblical picture of repentance is a one hundred and eighty degree turn. 486 00:33:45.460 --> 00:33:49.859 You're walking that direction. To repent is to walk in completely the opposite direction. 487 00:33:49.900 --> 00:33:55.009 Yeah, that's good. Ask them where they are going, heaven or 488 00:33:55.089 --> 00:34:00.970 hell, to discern workspaced theology. Yeah, so, and that's very important. 489 00:34:01.369 --> 00:34:06.690 It's important in sharing it, the Gospel, with anyone, but I 490 00:34:06.769 --> 00:34:10.679 also think it's especially important with a post abortive women, which actually most of 491 00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:15.079 the women, even the ones who choose life that time, have had a 492 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:20.079 prior abortion. And if their understanding of God and a relationship with God is 493 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:24.469 based on works, they're feeling condemnation. Well, absolutely so. The single 494 00:34:24.590 --> 00:34:28.909 question that I think maybe you have another one, but for me the one 495 00:34:28.949 --> 00:34:34.389 question that really kind of immediately lets me know do they believe they can work 496 00:34:34.429 --> 00:34:37.150 their way to heaven or not, is to say where you going, heaven 497 00:34:37.190 --> 00:34:39.460 or hell, and then why? Yeah, and how they answer that question. 498 00:34:39.500 --> 00:34:43.619 And that's an easy way to then have entrey and to sharing the rest 499 00:34:43.659 --> 00:34:46.260 of the Gospel. Yeah, absolutely, laying out that your good works cannot 500 00:34:46.300 --> 00:34:50.739 save you. Right, it only the good work that Jesus Christ did in 501 00:34:50.860 --> 00:34:53.809 his death, Barren resurrection right can rescue and Dean save you. Yeah, 502 00:34:54.730 --> 00:34:59.610 because we do have a lot of people, even with Thea you believe is 503 00:34:59.690 --> 00:35:04.010 m salvation, people that say they check the box. If you really get 504 00:35:04.130 --> 00:35:07.920 down into they're thinking about, quote, religious things, they still have a 505 00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:12.559 works based mentality. I mean, if you think about it, checking that 506 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.880 religious box. I did that. I said that prayer is kind of like 507 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:21.429 it. It's really, are you really trusting in Christ? That's the question. 508 00:35:21.469 --> 00:35:23.989 Are you trusting in him? Are you clinging to him for salvation? 509 00:35:24.190 --> 00:35:29.030 It's not works based, it's really heart based, right, if your heart 510 00:35:29.150 --> 00:35:31.909 really trusting in Christ. Yeah, and for many of these folks that would 511 00:35:31.909 --> 00:35:37.900 use these excuses to kill their child and justify it, obviously their hearts are 512 00:35:37.980 --> 00:35:40.099 not it's given to the Lord. That's right, that's right, and not 513 00:35:40.420 --> 00:35:45.500 their faith. They'll say I have faith and and I have faith that Soanso 514 00:35:45.619 --> 00:35:50.530 Andso and so. But if you ask them, well, do you have 515 00:35:50.730 --> 00:35:52.809 faith only when things are going the way you want them to go, or 516 00:35:52.889 --> 00:35:57.050 do you have faith when God is telling you to do something that's hard? 517 00:35:57.090 --> 00:35:59.889 Yeah, and if you don't have the faith to do what God is telling 518 00:35:59.889 --> 00:36:05.039 you to do when something's hard, then I would challenge whether you have a 519 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.880 saving faith. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, not too long ago, a 520 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:13.360 couple of weeks ago actually, I was talking to a young man who was 521 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:17.630 given excuses about his girlfriend having the abortion he was. He said he trusted 522 00:36:17.710 --> 00:36:21.710 the Lord, he said God was faithful and all these other things, and 523 00:36:21.750 --> 00:36:24.190 I said really, with a rubber meets the road, which is right here, 524 00:36:24.349 --> 00:36:29.389 right now, you're not trust in God, right, you're telling me, 525 00:36:29.550 --> 00:36:32.900 because of coronavirus, because of your financial situation, because of this, 526 00:36:34.099 --> 00:36:37.460 because of that, though, God is trustworthy in his character is impeccable, 527 00:36:37.739 --> 00:36:40.099 and you confess that. Yet somehow, right now, his character is up 528 00:36:40.139 --> 00:36:44.940 for question, because of the coronavirus, because of your financial situation, because 529 00:36:44.980 --> 00:36:49.050 of this, because of that, somehow God becomes not faithful anymore. Right, 530 00:36:49.210 --> 00:36:52.489 can't trust him now. Trust him to tough to see, even though 531 00:36:52.530 --> 00:36:54.050 he holds the future in his hand and he's been faithful in the past. 532 00:36:54.130 --> 00:36:57.769 You're telling me he won't be faithful in the future. And so I really 533 00:36:57.769 --> 00:37:00.409 pressed him on the issue of trusting the Lord and brought him to a point 534 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:05.159 where he saw and he agreed with me. Yeah, I'm not really trusting 535 00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.159 God, Emma. Yeah, now, unfortunately, he didn't go in there 536 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.679 and get his girlfriend out, but he certainly didn't get away with the idea 537 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:15.150 that somehow he's trust in God when he's really not. I gave him the 538 00:37:15.190 --> 00:37:19.710 truth and I did it very forthrightly, but very graciously. He didn't stomp 539 00:37:19.789 --> 00:37:23.469 off mad. We had a good, cordial conversation, conversation I yeah, 540 00:37:23.510 --> 00:37:27.829 I heard a lot of it and it was and I'm sure seats were planted 541 00:37:27.869 --> 00:37:30.059 and so maybe this baby wasn't safe, but maybe the next one will be. 542 00:37:30.219 --> 00:37:36.820 Maybe maybe he will be reconsidering. Yeah, and again, I certainly 543 00:37:36.860 --> 00:37:40.420 didn't just let him go with believe in the idea that somehow he's trusting in 544 00:37:40.500 --> 00:37:45.210 the Lord when he's really not. Yeah, stunging with the truth, stunning 545 00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:47.170 with God's word, and he will have to stand before the Lord and give 546 00:37:47.170 --> 00:37:51.409 an account. Hopefully, like you said, it planet seeds and he really 547 00:37:51.449 --> 00:37:53.050 truly God, do the surrenders to the Lord and trust. Yeah, I 548 00:37:53.090 --> 00:37:57.369 got a great text, I think it was this week, from a mom 549 00:37:57.530 --> 00:38:01.719 who said she was thanking cities for life, for that which is our ministry, 550 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:06.559 our organization, that that is there in front of the abortion center. 551 00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:12.800 And she she said because when she chose life because we were there and she 552 00:38:12.909 --> 00:38:17.670 said I I thought my situation that I faced was so awful and that it 553 00:38:17.710 --> 00:38:21.469 would never change, and said I'm so glad I chose life. Do you 554 00:38:21.550 --> 00:38:24.789 know, every single thing has changed for the better, every single thing. 555 00:38:25.389 --> 00:38:30.820 But she had put her faith in God and in doing the right thing before 556 00:38:31.420 --> 00:38:37.219 her circumstances changed. And how so often happens, than God worked were good 557 00:38:37.340 --> 00:38:42.449 things in her life. The next one is one that is not, I 558 00:38:42.570 --> 00:38:44.690 think, unique. Cut in a whites in here, but throw it in 559 00:38:44.769 --> 00:38:46.489 there. Convinced them they're a sinner. That that you need to do that 560 00:38:46.570 --> 00:38:50.050 with everyone. You show the Gospel. Yeah, one why is? Preacher 561 00:38:50.130 --> 00:38:52.769 said, you got to get people lost before you can get them safe. 562 00:38:52.769 --> 00:38:53.849 They don't know that they have to be found. Yeah, don't. If 563 00:38:53.849 --> 00:38:58.440 they don't know they're lost, why are they trying to be found by our 564 00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:00.679 gracious God? And if they don't know that they have a sickness, then 565 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:07.719 why would they take the remedy? That's right, and our great encourager, 566 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.349 at least from a far ray, comfort and sharing the gospels, gets right 567 00:39:10.389 --> 00:39:14.789 to that first. I love watching his videos. I love just here in 568 00:39:14.789 --> 00:39:17.030 the Gospel presentations yeah, he talks about that very same thing. I need 569 00:39:17.110 --> 00:39:21.829 to use the law to show people that they're sick, that they need a 570 00:39:21.869 --> 00:39:23.820 physician, because someone's not going to take a cure for disease. They don't 571 00:39:23.820 --> 00:39:27.980 believe that they have right. And most people walk around. You know, 572 00:39:28.059 --> 00:39:31.699 the Bible says each one will proclaim their own goodness. People think they're basically 573 00:39:31.739 --> 00:39:34.980 good. I'm a good person. Everybody else is evil, but I'm a 574 00:39:35.019 --> 00:39:37.139 good person. And you have to really get right to that thing and show 575 00:39:37.179 --> 00:39:40.449 them they're not a good person. Yeah, they're actually separated from God through 576 00:39:40.449 --> 00:39:45.929 their sin and they're under God's judgment, but Jesus Christ came so that they 577 00:39:45.969 --> 00:39:49.130 might be saved. And even just sometimes you have to just go to the 578 00:39:49.210 --> 00:39:53.559 point of is is there truly evil? And today I said it is. 579 00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:57.440 Hit the evil and I den and she agreed. Yeah, there is evil, 580 00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.239 because she was someone who believed in a higher power but not much of 581 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.119 anything else. And and from they're saying, so, what does he deserve? 582 00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.670 Well, he deserves hell. She's quite certain of that. But she 583 00:40:07.789 --> 00:40:10.710 did not see. Didn't, and so then so introducing the idea that she 584 00:40:10.949 --> 00:40:14.949 was indeed a sinner, that that helped her to come to an understanding of 585 00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:19.150 why Jesus dying on the Cross was necessary, why that penalty had to be 586 00:40:19.190 --> 00:40:22.019 paid. And that's the next one. Remind them there is a penalty for 587 00:40:22.099 --> 00:40:25.380 sin. Where sinner, there is a penalty sin. And then I'll kind 588 00:40:25.380 --> 00:40:31.219 of speed US along, move to the remedy Persin, which is the gospel 589 00:40:31.300 --> 00:40:36.329 of Jesus Christ. What Jesus Christ did in his death, burying resurrection is 590 00:40:36.409 --> 00:40:39.250 the remedy for the problem of sin. That's right. It's not trying hard, 591 00:40:39.409 --> 00:40:45.489 doing better, getting a bigger Bible or whatever. It's surrendering to what 592 00:40:45.610 --> 00:40:51.519 Jesus Christ has done. That's how you get salvation right. And and then, 593 00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:53.519 if then, and only then, if they understand all that has been 594 00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:58.559 said and you truly understand. If you say, do you understand everything? 595 00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.400 Do you have any questions? Is there anything you disagree with? Now I 596 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:06.190 agree with all of that at this all makes sense. At that point I 597 00:41:06.349 --> 00:41:10.590 will extend an invitation. If I really believe that they have truly grasped and 598 00:41:10.789 --> 00:41:15.869 understood sincerely everything that that's been raised, then I extend an invitation for them 599 00:41:15.989 --> 00:41:20.619 to ask to submit their life to Jesus, ask him to be Lord of 600 00:41:20.699 --> 00:41:24.980 their life and begin that process, yeah, of walking with God. Yes, 601 00:41:25.139 --> 00:41:28.699 yeah, I know, I've heard folks that have a problem with this 602 00:41:28.940 --> 00:41:31.139 extending in invitation for people. Yes, yeah, you want to get right 603 00:41:31.179 --> 00:41:34.409 with God right now. Yeah, some people say, you know, you 604 00:41:34.449 --> 00:41:37.889 should just let it be between them and the Lord. I understand that. 605 00:41:37.050 --> 00:41:42.889 Yeah, but I do think that is important to get them again. It's 606 00:41:42.929 --> 00:41:45.409 not decision, believe. Easy believe is and get them to check a box, 607 00:41:45.570 --> 00:41:50.119 but to give them to acknowledge, before God and before other people, 608 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:53.679 their sin and their need for a savior and to ask God to rescue and 609 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:59.480 to save them. Yea, and giving them an opportunity to pray, and 610 00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:04.190 you've done it several times. I've seen it with some men I've ministered to 611 00:42:04.349 --> 00:42:07.789 on the sidewalk to pray and ask Jesus to save them from their sin. 612 00:42:07.869 --> 00:42:10.630 I'll even get them to go through and confess their sense, name out, 613 00:42:10.670 --> 00:42:14.349 what your sons are. You're not you're not talking to me, so I 614 00:42:14.510 --> 00:42:16.739 make sure they direct their attention to the ord talking to God. Yeah, 615 00:42:16.820 --> 00:42:22.699 God knows all this stuff anyway. Confessed to him and God can wash your 616 00:42:22.780 --> 00:42:27.179 sins away. Yeah, today, after I shared the Gospel. The woman 617 00:42:27.340 --> 00:42:31.010 went from agnostic, believing in a higher power but really knowing nothing else, 618 00:42:31.090 --> 00:42:36.849 to that is a beautiful story. She agreed and she understood and it was 619 00:42:36.929 --> 00:42:38.369 clear from the question she'd asked. And I did say, you know, 620 00:42:38.489 --> 00:42:42.889 you could do this at any moment. You can submit your life to Jesus 621 00:42:42.969 --> 00:42:45.800 from this moment forward and I'm happy to pray with you if you want to 622 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:49.599 pray. She said. You know what, I really am going to think 623 00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.519 about this. This this there's there's been. You've given me a lot to 624 00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:59.949 consider, but I am not ready to fully commit right now and I feel 625 00:42:59.989 --> 00:43:02.070 like this is something I need to fully commit to. And that is a 626 00:43:02.469 --> 00:43:07.030 great statement. Yeah, and and and I said that is wonderful and I 627 00:43:07.110 --> 00:43:10.230 think you should think about it, pray about it, but I would not 628 00:43:10.309 --> 00:43:14.500 wait too long. I do, I do feel an urgency that maybe not 629 00:43:14.619 --> 00:43:17.179 everyone feels, but the Bible says, while it is yet today, do 630 00:43:17.340 --> 00:43:20.980 not harden your heart as you did in the repellion. Yeah, and I 631 00:43:21.059 --> 00:43:24.860 am we none of us are guaranteed tomorrow. Yeah, I'm so, so 632 00:43:25.260 --> 00:43:30.849 some of the key verses for sharing the Gospel and maybe then we can wrap, 633 00:43:30.130 --> 00:43:34.809 wrap it up with those. The concept of personal sin. Romans three 634 00:43:34.849 --> 00:43:37.570 hundred and twenty three. Yeah, one of my favorites. For All have 635 00:43:37.690 --> 00:43:40.130 sinned and false show of the glory of God. The penalty for sin. 636 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:44.480 Romans six hundred and twenty three. The wages of sin is death. Do 637 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:49.000 you have a favorite for repentance? Yeah, well, repent or you shall 638 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.079 likewise. Paris was that, but that too good. Chapter Thirteen, it's 639 00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.280 a good one. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so I'll remember that one. 640 00:43:55.230 --> 00:44:00.030 There's a path back to God through Jesus. I love Romans ten nine 641 00:44:00.389 --> 00:44:05.630 for that, which I had already mentioned. Focusing on Lordship, yeah, 642 00:44:05.670 --> 00:44:08.590 she is one of the most common misunderstandings and of false conversions. I believe 643 00:44:08.710 --> 00:44:13.420 is not understanding. Lord Luke six and forty six. Why do you call 644 00:44:13.460 --> 00:44:15.900 me Lord Lord? Yeah, and not everyone, Matthew. Twenty one is 645 00:44:15.940 --> 00:44:20.219 another great one. Not everyone who says to me Lord Lord, will enter 646 00:44:20.300 --> 00:44:22.659 the Kingdom of Heaven. Yeah, that's a powerful that is a powerful and 647 00:44:23.099 --> 00:44:27.449 scary verse. Yeah, who are not living for the Lord it is, 648 00:44:28.210 --> 00:44:30.570 have not truly certended their life to Jesus, and yet have his name on 649 00:44:30.610 --> 00:44:37.010 their lips. Yeah, I think something for me and that kept me from 650 00:44:37.010 --> 00:44:40.239 sharing the Gospel was because there's so many great verses and there's so many that 651 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:45.960 you could focus on. So I think it is important to go through and 652 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:50.920 think about what are the key elements and what are some key verses that really 653 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:55.429 resonate with you, that that get that key concept across to whoever you're talking 654 00:44:55.469 --> 00:45:00.030 to and memorize those verses. Yeah, absolutely, and not be afraid. 655 00:45:00.389 --> 00:45:05.389 Not Be afraid, because the it is the power of God alone is it's 656 00:45:05.510 --> 00:45:09.619 what's going to change this whole abortion issue. Yeah, and change it. 657 00:45:09.940 --> 00:45:15.900 That change happens individual hearts being surrendered to the Lord. So I would encourage 658 00:45:15.900 --> 00:45:19.699 you guys share the gospel out there on the sidewalk. Don't neglect sharing the 659 00:45:19.780 --> 00:45:22.969 gospel. Encourage us. Maybe there are some things that we missed in this 660 00:45:23.130 --> 00:45:28.010 podcast. Maybe you're involved in sidewalk ministry, you're out there on a regular 661 00:45:28.010 --> 00:45:30.170 basis and you're sharing the Gospel and there's some stuff we didn't touch on. 662 00:45:30.329 --> 00:45:34.090 Some wisdom you can give to us. We certainly don't think that we have 663 00:45:34.170 --> 00:45:37.679 it all together, so reach out to US share those things. You can 664 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:43.079 reach out to me d parks at cities for lifecom Her v CASSIE ORG at 665 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.719 cities for lifecom. We'd love to hear from you, guys. We appreciate 666 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:50.469 you, guys that share this podcast. Please continue to share it, but 667 00:45:50.590 --> 00:46:02.590 until next time, God bless our love. For Love, give me our 668 00:46:02.909 --> 00:46:15.900 loft for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too 669 00:46:15.179 --> 00:46:17.420 precious. And some met you