Reaching Uber Drivers at the Abortion Centers

0:00 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me, Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you in pro life ministry and always were a focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned. I felt show passish touch your use me, Lord. Here everyone, welcome to the Gospel centered pro life podcast. I'm here with Daniel Parks. Daniel is in a new place. He's in the land of Golden Opportunity, right, you're in California, yeah, or the land of fruits and nuts.

0:52 They well, that too. And and I'm in North Carolina. So we are. We're recording remotely from each other, yes, and but we we do intend to continue with our podcast. Daniel will be out there for what three? Three months at this point, is what the remberk is. Okay. Yeah, and and you are out there working with our national missionaries. And, yeah, just California. And encourage those who are out here who are love life missionaries. They're doing the work. I want to support them and encourage them. Some of these people, all of these people, are brand new to this ministry and there's a lot of work to be done here. It just right. Guys, know, my voice is is terrible.

1:37 I'm dealing with some allergy stuff. Yeah, and I'd hope coming out to California would change that, but apparently not. Seems like it. Yeah, a little worse. Yeah, my God's graceful make it through this and we really feel like these podcasts are important. We get a lot of feedback from people, from our missionaries. They're encouraged. We touch on subjects that seem to be so timely. Like we are podcast about what to do when an ambulance shows up and I get an email like the next day from one of our one of the local volunteers here in Riverside. Right, like an ambulance just showed up yesterday and you know, what you've shared was really helpful.

2:19 Also, I got an email from somebody, I think in Florida, who had the same thing around the same time. And Yeah, just actually had an interaction with a counselor or a missionary is dealing with a woman that's going through miscarriage and we just put out that last yeah, exactly. That happened to me also this past week. Someone that one of the missionaries said she was going through that and I was able to point them to that podcast. So it is amazing how God kind of nudges us to to do a subject and and sometimes you all not just and that's how we decide what to what to do a podcast about. That's the way it's actually okay, struggling through with my voice and you get struggling through to listen to my voice, as terrible as it sounds. It's worth it's worth it to us. Yeah, and even though through many dangerous toils and snares we record the PODCAST, it's worth it. So right, yeah, you guys that are listening, you're worth it. In the Gospel going forth is worth it and babies being saved, mom's lobs be an impact, impacted. It's worth it, guys.

3:29 So would encourage you and we hope this blessing, or this episode will be a blessing to you guys. Right, right. And this episode, like so many of them, came about because someone mentioned it mentioned a situation where a service provider had come up to the abortion center and they were curious about all. What do you do? What do you say? And we're always so careful to train our volunteers that keep your focus your ministry is the unborn child and that that Mama, because she has a life or death decision to make and one way or another, by the end of the day, that child see the going to be alive or dead based on that mother's decision.

4:15 So that's our ministry focus, but that doesn't mean that we ignore that are in the vicinity or even something that you would think maybe we would be not as useful to interact with, such as the service providers, and by that I don't mean the abortion workers, but you know, the door people or the the person devel delivering Fedex, or are quite often the uber drivers, which we see frequently, Uber and tax taxi drivers. So we see them all the time. And the way that that we wanted to talk about this podcast is telling some stories. Stories are so powerful and we've developed just a smattering of these are true stories of things that have happened mostly within the past year, some of them very recently. One of them happened just just last week or the week before, of whereas service provider and our interactions with them led to a baby being saved, and that is not infrequent, and that that's kind of the Lord does in these situations. Yeah, yeah, so the the you know, the very first point is, of course they focused on on your mission field. If you see a mom going in, she's she is your focus. Now, if it's in Uber or a taxi

5:46 driver coming in, they're often transporting a mom. So your interaction with them is going to be heard by the mother and that is still keeping your ministry focus. But be careful about being so sidetracked like think. You know, I got to talk to every service person that comes in that maybe you're missing MOMS. That would not be appropriate. Yeah, but the one that happened recently, I was not a part of this story. I was actually in the office when the councilor came in and told me about this story. But a taxi driver with a Hispanic couple in the back seat was driving slowly down the street. The driver stopped as a taxi driver and he stopped. I think was a he, and the conclor that that he stopped for was actually one of our brand new councilors and she is really only on the sidewalk a few weeks and I'm sure she didn't feel like she knew what to say.

6:45 I remember what it was like when I was brand new like that. But the first thing she said, and I think you'll notice this trend in all of the stories, is did you know that this is an abortion center? Yeah, yeah, that's something we had to keep in mind because these uber drivers quite often, like probably ninety nine point nine percent of the time, have no clue. They're just they gotta message on their phone. I don't know exactly how Uber Works, except for it's an APP and all of that, and they get anifications and I want to be picked up and then they want to be picked up here and they want to be taken there. It doesn't tell them they want to be taken to the abortion clinic, you know right, and and it doesn't say probably not going to share that information either, you know, when she gets into the Uber. That's right, that's right. If I they sometimes do tell me they know they're at a clinic, that they're coming to a preferred woman's health center, but that hardly says abortion anywhere on it. And but they are, I would say, most of the time, shocked. Most of the time they are shocked. No, I didn't know that. So that was the first thing that this just very intuitive counselor she did the exact right thing, asked the exact correct first question. Did you know this is an abortion center? Yeah, and the driver said he did not, and he instantly glanced in his rearview mirror at the Hispanic couple. Now they did not speak any English, from what I understand, and he was the uber driver because he was also Hispanic. He

8:18 spoke Spanish, and so a lot of what transpired we don't know what he said because he's speaking in Spanish to the couple, but he's clearly distraught as as he looks in the rearview mirror and and the the couple in the back kind of squirm and he asks them in Spanish if they knew that they were going to an abortion center. And my guess is what transpired was that yes, obviously they knew, and there was an argument that that ensues between the taxi driver and the couple in the back seat and are again, are very smart. Counselor handed them the literature and also, I believe, got Spanish literature into their hands to the taxi driver, who instantly gave it to the couple and and she explains to the taxi driver, who is bilingual, he was able to speak English. She explained, well, this is an abortion center. And do you believe in God? The number to question that, I think, would become on the tails of that first question. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and it turns out he did. And as soon as someone says yes, you the doors wide open for you to say, well, you're you know, you're fair. Is being paid in part by by

9:48 someone or it's being paid by someone who is here to kill their baby. And and you know, when you take business that brings you into a place where babies are being murdered, then you're complicit. And I don't know if she said exactly those words again, I wasn't there, but something along those lines, saying you don't want to be pulling into this place with that. You know, I think we we have to be careful not to come across as like, you know, we're condemning them, we're kind of lumping them in with the mom that's they're to kill her baby or with the abortion clinic. And Right, they're not working for the abortion clinic. Yeah, so I think there's a there's a balance there. Again, these people don't know that they're coming. They're bringing someone to an abortion clinic. Yeah, but the fact is they are bringing someone to an abortion clinic, right. I mean, you can think of a few analogies. You know, if you're in Nazi Germany and somebody's telling you to drive a truck and you don't realize you got Jews in the back of it and you're taking them to, you know, Nazi death camp, you don't know, you don't know what you don't know and you're not guilty until you find out. Right, and you now you realize halfway down the road there's some Jews in the back and, yeah, you've got a choice to make. You're going to keep driving the truck to the destination or are you going to stop and say I'm not going to be a part of this? That's right. You know, I think that's that's a good analogy maybe for this scenario. But again we have to be careful. Like again, these people don't know, so we're not going

11:20 to condemn them for something they just don't know, but we are going to inform them so that they do know. And then again they've got a choice to making that moment. Yeah, and the council went on to share how we were going to be able to help the couple in the backseat and she asked them to the taxi driver to translate, which he did. So she listed the the resources, she talked about God, she talked about the development of the baby, and the driver said, I'm not going to I'm not going to drive them in there. He refused. He said I will not, I won't do it. Now, not all of them do that.

12:01 Most of them don't do that, to tell you the truth, but this man took stand. He was not and the the couple in the back kind of threw up their hands and said fine, take us back to the hotel and we'll call you all to find out how you can help us. So it's grudging, apparently a little bit angry, but but they did. They the driver took them back to the hotel. He left. I don't know if they ever called our Spanish translator or not, but for sure that day that baby's life was reprieved because of the courageous stand of the taxi driver.

12:41 And he wouldn't make that stand alone. He wouldn't have made it if he had read their picture, though, just so people understand, I like this is happening within like fifty feet of the abortion clinic. Right these people could have gotten out of the car and walked into the abortion clinic. They could have you know, they were captive in the car. It's not like, you know, they were miles away from the abortion clinic. They could have just gotten out. And I've seen that happen before. I've seen taxi drivers come. They refused to pull into the abortion clinic because, you know, they've stopped and when they found out they were not going to be complicit in this, in this whole thing, they can't do anything. They can't lock the doors and drive the people back to their you know where they picked them up at. So you know, I've seen people get out of the Uber or get out of the taxi and just walk into the abortion clinic. You know, at that point, I think you know the Uber driver, the taxi driver, has done all that they can do in this situation. It seems to me, as we say, these people are they're praying for a sign. It seems to me these people took their the interaction with the taxi driver, or it was an uber driver. Was An uber driver, this one was a taxi driver. I'm pretty sure they sort of took that interaction as a sign from the Lord that's right because again, if they really wanted to have the abortion, they could have gotten out of the taxi and went into the abortion clinic. They could have, and I think it illustrates another really important point that when we take a stand for righteousness, people notice and it can sometimes breathe courage into hearts that are wafering. Yeah, and I

14:13 think that is part of what happened this this taxi driver was adamant. He wasn't going to drive in there. What they were about to do was wrong and and he was not going to back down from from what he knew was was right. So I think that's an encouragement for all of us that we need to stand firm on what we know is true and right and what what God would have us do. Yes here, speaking of encouragement. Yeah, the guy was a hero, absolute yeah, speaking of the word encouragement, you guys have heard me in the past talk about this. You know, to encourage someone is to put courage into them, and that's what we're doing in these situations. Like we're speaking to these the service people, these uber drivers especially, like Uber Drivers, taxi drivers, and we're speaking courage into them and saying you can do this, you can take a stand for life, you can speak to them, you can hand them this literature, because you know, often times when they do stop, it's not that they're rolling down the back window for us to talk to the person they have in the back right, they're rolling down their window. So we've really, you know, we've really got to speak to them and interact with them and encourage them, put courage into them that you can speak to the people that you have in the back of your car, you can give them this literature. So please, please do that. And so when we're trying to put courage into them. Yeah, exactly. So the the second situation was similar. Was a Newberg driver this time, but, and I think it's a really important little story to tell, because he had already dropped the person off. Now

15:48 when he stopped for me, I think again, I don't it might have been a woman. I think it was a man, but he dropped off a worker and the worker went in and I called out to the worker. The worker went in and the tendency, my tendency even, is get back to my mission and ignore the person coming out. He's already dropped the worker. What good is it going to do to. He's just an uber driver. Yeah, you know, he may never come here again, but I didn't that that time. I didn't. Sometimes I have. That time I didn't. He he pulled over, stopped for me and I started off with the same thing. Did you know this is an abortion center? And I think he might have known. I think he had dropped this worker of at other times, and I talked about what happens in an abortion center and then I handed him the information and I said, listen, you may know someone that is considering an abortion, or maybe you don't even know right now, but maybe if you hang onto this, I guarantee you someone's going to happen along in your life that is in an unplanned pregnancy considering an abortion, and I want you to know we help them. We help them with resources and no matter what situation they face, and with a mentorship program we even do baby showers that provide two full years of what that child will need. I just would encourage you to take this information and if you know someone that's struggling,

17:18 would you tell her will help them? That's my name and and my number on the back. So he took the information and said thank you and left. And that afternoon I was home from the abortion center and I got a call from a woman who said it is this Vickie. Yes, well, and Uber driver is a friend of mine and he just gave me a pamphlet that he got from you today and he said that you all help women who are struggling and unplanned pregnancies and thinking about abortion. And that's my story.

17:59 D can You tell me what you could do, how you could help? And so I did and one thing led to another. I shared the Gospel. She had fallen away from God, but she and she knew it. And and like so many women, when she made the decision to abort, it felt like God had abandoned her when in reality, of course she had abandoned God. But she be committed her life to the Lord. She said she was not going to abort. She wanted the mentor and and so, you know, praise God for that amazing result of the obedience of that Uber driver. But the story didn't end there. She got involved with the mentor. She found out just how much help the mentorship program is and her cousin it was also in an unplanned pregnancy. She told her cousin about us, gave the cousin the pamphlet. The cousin contacted me and it was the same ending. She she also committed her life to the Lord. She wanted to mentor. She got a mentor, and so two babies and to eternal lives were saved by handing and Uber driver leaving after dropping someone at the abortion center, but by handing him a pamphlet and telling them about the help that

19:30 was available. Well, it's amazing. Yeah, you know, again a story that I wouldn't have known, which is why we do these podcast I would think, why bother? Why bother giving giving our information to someone who's already dropped the woman. It wasn't even a mom to there to abort it. It was a marker. Here's what I'll say. Win and doubt. Hand it out. Yeah, and out. Hand out a piece of literature. Now we don't have just be flinging literature all over the place. You know, everybody that walks Bo gets literature if you're on like a busy road or something like that. But when in doubt, hand it out. If there's an uber driver that stops to take it, get literature into their hands.

20:12 Maybe they did drop somebody off and they didn't know it. Maybe we didn't, they weren't able to stop or for whatever reason they went in still didn't realize it was an abortion clinic. They come out. I've had that situation happened before. I'll still give them a piece of literature. I'll try to encourage them. Can you text that woman and get her to come out and talk to us? You know, I'll try to encourage me do that. Yeah, nothing else. I'll say, hang on to this literature, keep it in your car in case this happens again. You'll know where you're coming next time, right, and you can hand them this literature. So, yeah, that literature is powerful. It seems that that we plant that keep on bringing an increase in yeah, exactly. Sometimes it's the same uber driver that will end up picking them up. Sometimes they've said come back in an hour or something. Yeah, that so, and you never know, and then you've got a double chance to hopefully reach reach that woman. So the next story is a little bit different, again, one that I think the Holy Spirit prompted us to act, but that I probably wouldn't, under normal circumstances, have said anything to these workers. As a paving company, it was a paving company truck pulls in. There are a lot of potholes in in the abortion center parking lot, but that didn't really register to me at first. I thought it was a dad. We do see businesses pull in in their business trucks pull in with as the dad sometimes meeting the mom,

21:45 but in this case so his the the name of the paving company is on the side and and as he's pulling in, I said our did you know this is an abortion center that you're pulling into? And he said no, and he looked visibly shaken. He did not and I went into, you know, a very similar thing as what I've already told you that I say, where I described what happens there, and then I said are are you a believer? And he said yes, and I said well, what would what would God have you do? Meanwhile the security people are going nuts.

22:26 You know, I've stopped up paved, you know, a rot paved paver trunk driver, and they're screaming at me just that he's here to do a job, idiot, just leave them alone. Let him drive in. And I never listened to them. I there were no other cars it. You know, they they're not the cops and I wasn't doing anything. I wasn't blocking anyone. The paver wasn't blocking any car from coming in or out. They're just mad that I'm stopping this person who, they said, he's he's got a contract, he's he's about to do business with this spe just let the guy do his job. They're swearing at me, screaming at me, and I hand him our information and and and said really, think about what God would have you do. And they drive in and so I think okay, and I go. I go back. I'm ready to start calling out, you know, to the MOMS. And they did aktern in the parking lot and pulled right out and as they're driving out, he held up the literature and pointed to the sky, you know, to God, and left. They didn't come back. The the paving company left. So we're all just cheering. Security is swearing. But that's not the end of that story either. That Saturday and Daniel, I think you were the one that had this interaction, or one of the Saturday people. I heard about it again. I was I was there, but I wasn't right at the driveway

23:56 where another paving truck pulled them. So that Saturday, right. Was it you? You know, the one that was there? Yeah, yeah, so same thing. They pull in. It sounds like it was the exact same scenary. Hey, Hey, man, did you know this is an abortion center? And I don't know if they did or not, but in a glue and they had no clue and they they pull in and then did a you turn and left. Yeah, and as they were leaving they said God, bless you guys for what you're doing. took all so, I mean that story is so great to me because to paving truck companies that chose to glorify God rather than be paid their salary by the blood of babies, that was just such an encouragement. Yeah, to me. Shortly thereafter was the first four day wee can that I think I've ever known the abortion center to have, and it maybe it was on the fourth of July weekend.

25:04 So normally they take the fourth off, but if it falls on, you know, a Friday or Saturday, but that's it. Maybe a second day. But it was the a full four day week and which I had never seen. And the parking lot was paved and in that period of time, so a pavery, a paving company showed up about, apparently the abortion center Wi stoup that hey, when there's a Christian witness out there, even the workers are affected by by the choice to follow God, and we're going to have to do this under cover of night and cover up some when they're not there. I want to reiterate the point I made earlier, is that, you know, these people quite likely don't know that it's an abortion clinic and we got to be careful the way that we come across. We don't want to come across as like we're just we're condemning them, we're lumping them in with the abortionist or the abortion clinic. In the sense we want to inform them. You know, we want to expose Effesians five eleven right. Have no fellowship with him, proof for works of darkness, but rather expose them.

26:14 And really we're exposing these people, the service people, whoever they might be, to the reality that's going on inside of that building and before God, they have to make a choice. Now I'll share a story real quick, if my voice will allow, and this is man I don't know, probably ten years or more ago I was out there on a Saturday. This is when I was volunteering on the sidewalk at that time and I noticed that people started flooding out of the building, out of the abortion clinic on the troube and I'm like, okay, something's going on here, something pretty significant in this is this is great, because people are getting in their cars and they're leaving and and all of that. Come to find out, a squirrel had somehow got on the transformer or something like that and kind of made the two contacts connect and Squirrel got fried. But theyd you out. Yeah, so out at the abortion clinic and so they couldn't do abortions. Last Saturday at that time, sometimes there would be fifty S S, sometimes seventy people there for an abortion. It was a slaughter house, let me tell yeah.

27:22 And there'd be people parking out on the streets and because the parking lot was so full there for an abortion. So I'm rejoicing. It was being a small team goes out there. Were rejoicing that these babies are not going to die. And then the the power company truck pulls in, or pulling in to restore power. The guys stopped and talked with me and I beg this guy and he didn't know it was an abortion clinic, but I beg this man please, this is an abortion clinic. If you restore their power, they're going to begin killing babies again. This guy now, and I was as gracious as I could possibly be. I'm not accusing him of anything he didn't know, but I did bleed with him and this guy was not happy. So just be prepared that some people are not going to be happy.

28:11 He's like, I'm just doing my job, which I'm like, I understand. Yeah, man, yeah, I would hate to be in that situation and we really have to understand from their perspective, the situation that they're in. They do have a job to do, I can get that, but at the end of the day, if that job is going to be restoring the power to a place that that murders children, they've really got it before God make a decision and I believe, the right thing. I mean I think anyone looking at this scenario the right thing. This guy will saying, well, somebody's got to restore the power to this place. I'm like, yeah, of course somebody has to, but it ain't got to be you. Right, let somebody else do it. If you trust in the Lord Trust in him. And again, I'm trying to put myself in that scenario. I would hate to be in that situation. Okay, you lose your job, you know, certainly, yeah, but again, babies are dying, and so I think we have to balance. We have to be gracious about this, right, we have to. We have to not just kind of disconnect ourselves from the situation. You have to realize that we could be in that same situation and you know, maybe some of you guys that are volunteer on the sidewalk, maybe you're an uber driver, some people do that on the side, you might be put in this situation. To imagine this is going to be an easy decision when your life, in your livelihood, depends on it is is likely not true for any of these people.

29:30 That's their only livelihood. So we have to we have to meet them with that, with that in mind, and we have to we have to address them with humility. But again, at the end of the day, inside of that building they are killing children, Bab yeah, in these service people can can do something to affect that in some way. So, yeah, we're put that out there. Yeah, that's a good story. I've never heard that one there was one that happened recently, well, I guess about a year ago in New York City, and again it was only related to me. So I'm not sure if I have this story totally correctly, but it's similar to what you just said. It was an uber driver who had become a new believer and he was going to church with one of our missionaries and he happened to be delivering food. Maybe I maybe he was a door driver, but he was. He was a door driver, and so he was delivering food net actually not at the planned parenthood in New York City, but nearby, and he saw all those missionaries on the sidewalk and pulled over.

30:37 He said Hey, what's happening here, and they explained what was happening here and he he delivered the food and then he went to one of the MOMS and he's a new believer. He was on fire for the Lord with the zeal, all the zeal of you know remember when you were a new believer, and he talked her out of them killing the baby and that baby was saved because the door driver decided he was going to find out what was going on. The missionaries were more than happy to tell him what was going on. The baby was saved and he was so moved by what God had done that he now volunteers with them. He started volunteering with them in a apparently he's still with them. He's still volunteering and very effective. So again, you never know, this might be your future volunteer pool. But the people that pull in. So one of my favorite stories, I think it's our last story, was an interpreter, and this was it poignant in the same way as you were illustrating, Daniel, as you were saying be gracious.

31:41 For some of these people this is really it is their livelihood and this, this paycheck means could mean the difference between the feed and their family or not, and and to try and be cognizant of that. I tend to forget that because my focus is more on the baby, but I think it is such an important thing to remember. But in this case, this interpreter came, she was dropped by her husband and her. They were both you could tell as as the husband dropped her, he hugged her, he kissed her, you could tell there was anguish in in this couple and I thought she was a mom coming to a board and so started calling out in that that way, and she said none, no, no, she she doesn't believe an abortion. I said, well, what are you doing here then?

32:29 And and she said, well, I've been I work as an interpreter and I've been called to interpret for a mom who doesn't speak English who's here to kill her baby. And I begged her, don't, don't, don't. If you don't interpret that baby, they the mom won't be able to go through with it because she won't be able to understand and just drive away. And she had a discussion with the husband but said look, I I'm sorry, I this is it. My husband can't work, he's disabled. This is my job. I can't risk losing this job or getting a bad right up or whatever. And and so I said look at at least can you try and sneak her the literature? Here's what we do. I explained to her what we do and and told her about because the information was not in this woman's language. It was an unusual language and I won't tell you because I don't want to get this interpreter in trouble. But Um, she did take it. She hit it under her shirt, as we recommend it, and and she went in and she was in there a good couple of hours. So we're of course sad. We thought she probably did her best.

33:50 And then we see her coming out and she came right over to us and she said the mom is coming out and I said did she kill her baby? and Said No. During the whole time that the interpreter was interpreting, she was not interpreting what the abortion center was telling her to interpret. She knew none of them understood what she was saying and she was telling the woman about us, about everything we could do, about God, about that baby, the humanity of that baby and that she should never kill her child. And the she said the woman's coming out and I want to interpret for you all for free on the mobile ultrasound unit. So the woman did come out. She came right over to us. The interpreter brought her on with me and whoever else, the nurse and all onto the mobile ultrasound unit.

34:45 The woman chose life. was so grateful she had. She was, you know, in the country, didn't know anyone. I mean I knew you, I got it. I understood the fear that had overwhelmed this woman. But with all the things that we offered her that. I believe that might have been before the days of the mentorship program and love life, but Sheryl Chandler of truth and mercy pro life ministries definitely offered her a baby shower. I called Sheryl from the RV and Sheryl said she would love to do the baby shower for this this young couple, and we did. It was, I remember still that baby shower because they were so poor but they had this lavish meal prepared. I knew they couldn't have afforded it, but it was like just an amazing meal, which never happens. I mean we usually take them out to to the meal, but they were so grateful they had they and that that little boy is now, I think, six and every few months I get a picture in with with this woman in her broken English, thanking us for having been there along with it's a group email to me, Ryl and the interpreter, and she has remained friends with that interpreter, as have we, and and you know, years and years later she is still

36:19 still thanking us and saying how this young, young boy is just the the light of her of her life. Yeah, so you know, use the interpreters the yeah, the bottom line, center doesn't know. Yeah, with with all of these people, whatever capacity they're they're a God. Can Use anything. God can use anything. We don't want to be distracted, like you started out, we don't want to let these people be our focus. Right, the MOM's going in and our is our focus. But kind of like that analogy that we laid out that you know, we're like a lawyer on behalf of that baby. Right, we're pleading that baby's case proverbs thirty one, verses eight and nine. We're making a case for those who are unjustly scheduled to die and we're appealing to the judge, which is the mother.

37:10 But we're also bringing witnesses, right, and sometimes as witnesses are the DADS, some times they're the new friend that brought her friend there for an abortion. Sometimes they're the UBER driver, sometimes they're the door driver, sometimes they're, you know, these other service people that are there unknowingly or whatever, and sometimes they can be called it with the analogy, kind of in line with the analogy, as witnesses, this baby does not deserve death, but deserves to live. And in this situation with the interpreter, she was certainly a witness in that baby's case. That, yeah, baby deserves to live and praise God for just the fruit that was born out of that situation.

37:51 Really and that was a story that we were not able to share for years because we didn't you know, it's so far removed now they'd never be able to figure out who it was if they even wanted to at this point. But for years we were not able to share that story, which is true of so many of these miraculous stories. We don't share them on purpose. We don't want to get especially these service workers in trouble when they have worked so hard to to fight for that child's life. So it's such a delight to be able to tell that story a little bit because it is one of the most miraculous things that I have seen happen out there. This is a woman who knew she had to go in, but she was still not going to deny her God. Yeah, and and and fought for that baby's life successfully. Yeah, yeah, want you read that scripture that you have kind of at the end of this article that you wrote. Like you guys know, Vicky wrote an article that's come of framework for this a podcast episode.

38:46 Read that scripture, maybe expounded on a little bit and then we'll yeah thing up. Yeah, so it's is AIAH forty one versus ten through thirteen. And I will tell you what stops me, and maybe it's what stops a lot of us, from speaking to the workers, the service people that are coming in, is fear. Yeah, I'm afraid. I'm afraid they're gonna they're going to be mad. It is their job and I do feel some you know, there's some kind of at some angst about that. Should should I really be stopping someone who is putting food on the table? I mean, they're not doing the abortion there and anyway, so they're I don't want to talk often times to these service workers and I think in the point of this podcast is to say don't ever let fear stop you from doing what God has called you to do, and I think quite often he has called us to speak to those service workers. So that verst is a a forty one verse ten to thirteen. Do not fear, for I am with you.

39:58 Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, surely I will help you, surely I will uphold you with my righteous right hand behold all those who are angered at you will be, will be shamed and dishonored. I can't help but think of those security men screaming and swearingness. Those who contend with you will not be as nothing. will be as nothing and will perish. You will seek those who quarrel with you, but will not find that. Those who war with you will be as nothing and nonexistent for I and the Lord, your God, who uphold you with your right, with my righteous right hand, who says to you, do not fear, I will help you. And bottom line, he always does. He always helps us. It may not be the way you expect. Don't don't get me wrong. Babies will still die, service workers will still drive in, but when you take a bold step for God, invariably miracles happen. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, guys. I mean all through the Scripture, be bold and courageous. You guys. The Bible says the righteous are as bold as a lion. You guys, are servant on the sidewalk. I believe you're the righteous that are as bold as a lion. Not a righteousness that you've come up with yourself. It's a righteousness

41:29 that comes through Jesus Christ, but your obedience is stepping into righteousness and being a righteous person. And listen, you guys can be as bold as a lion. We don't need to be timid, we don't need to feel like we're inconveniencing people. Listen, remember babies are dying and God has called you to this mission. So be bold, speak to these service people. Do it graciously. A bold, gracious convers conversation with them can go a long way. And and God's going to use you, guys. God is using you guys. So with that we're going to wrap this episode up. As always, we encourage you guys to reach out to us. You can reach out to me, Danielt Love Life Dot Org. You can reach out to her, Vicky, at Love Life Dot Org. Again, apologize for my voice. I got some allergy stuff going on, but hopefully this episode was a blessing to you and we look forward to doing future episodes for you guys.

42:22 Are reach out. Let us know. What are some subjects we can cover. But until next time, God bless get that show. Give me our love for love, give me our loft for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. No, sins too precious, and some you