March 24, 2022

Raising Up Sidewalk Volunteers

Raising Up Sidewalk Volunteers

A common struggle in sidewalk ministry and really any ministry is raising up volunteers and people to serve alongside you. In this episode, we share some tips, experiences, and encouragement that will help you as you seek to raise up an army of Godly...

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Gospel-Centered Pro-Life Podcast

A common struggle in sidewalk ministry and really any ministry is raising up volunteers and people to serve alongside you. In this episode, we share some tips, experiences, and encouragement that will help you as you seek to raise up an army of Godly volunteers to cover the sidewalks with the light of the Gospel.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:06.480 That was part of what finally made me say this is not just some you 2 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:12.560 know, unimportant thing that she's doing, or she wouldn't possibly be stippy there 3 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:17.359 here year after year with all of these terrible conditions she faces. So it 4 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:23.960 was her perseverance. I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, 5 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:29.719 and me, Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm 6 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:34.759 welcome to the Gospel Center Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, 7 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:39.320 encourage and challenge you in pro life ministry, and always with a focus on 8 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:51.000 the Gospel. Stay tuned, I felt show Passi touts your use me, 9 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:56.759 Lord, Welcome back to the Gospel centered pro life podcast. We appreciate you 10 00:00:56.799 --> 00:01:00.200 guys joining us as always and we'd appreciate, as always, if you guys 11 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:04.680 would share this podcast with others who might be blessed by it. My name 12 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:11.599 is Daniel Parks. Serve in love life as the director of missionaries and also 13 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:15.640 as the West Coast regional shepherds. I oversee our ministries out on the West 14 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:19.840 Coast, even though I'm right now on the east coast. Let a travel 15 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:22.640 back and forth a lot, and then I have Vicky with me. You 16 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:26.159 guys know Vicky hopefully, if you've been listening, Ei there everyone, good 17 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:30.319 to be with you. Vicki serves here as a of our leads on the 18 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:37.760 sidewalks here in Charlotte, and so we do these episodes to help train people 19 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:42.359 really in particular with sidewalk ministry, to be effective out on the sidewalks. 20 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:46.439 We cover over other subjects as well, but really focus on the sidewalk outreach 21 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:49.959 ministry. That's our heart. That's how the Lord called us into the ministry. 22 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.319 Pro Life Ministry is being out on the sidewalks, reaching out to the 23 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:59.040 MOMS and the dad's going into the abortion centers, and so this episode is 24 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:05.000 going to be maybe, maybe like a compilation of other episodes that we've done. 25 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:10.639 We've kind of we've kind of taken some content from Time's past and condensed 26 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:14.879 it into some of these episodes that we've put out recently, I think. 27 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:19.840 Yeah, and now this is an episode of recruiting volunteers. Again, we've 28 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:23.319 kind of given some tips and some things that we've seen work here, but 29 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:28.879 we're going to kind of compile some of those thoughts into one episode that I 30 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:31.919 think will be a real blessing to you guys that are listening yeah, because 31 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:37.159 that is a big need. If we were to ask, and we did, 32 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.360 we did a meeting, what a week or so ago with some folks, 33 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:45.080 and just ask what's your what's your biggest struggle? And the biggest struggle 34 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:50.960 was for the sidewalk ministry, Hey, was finding people to volunteer. Yeah, 35 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:54.840 getting feet on the sidewalk, finding and keeping, but but this is 36 00:02:54.879 --> 00:03:00.639 specifically more about how we can find them. Yeah, we can recruit them. 37 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:04.520 Yeah, absolutely. So we're going to talk about how to recruit some 38 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:10.520 volunteers right and I mean I think the will probably give through this episode also 39 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:14.680 some ways to keep those volunteers, because you don't want to just get them 40 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.280 out there and just get people out there on the sidewalk and you can really 41 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:21.759 wear yourself out get a bunch of brand new people and trying to train them 42 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:23.599 up and then you find that they they don't stay. Maybe we'll do a 43 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:28.000 whole other episode. I think we could. We do touch on it this 44 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:30.639 one, but we certainly could expand on those ideas how to keep people out 45 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:34.360 there on the side well, because this is a difficult ministry. It is 46 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:38.680 this can be a very discouraging, challenging ministry and so we need some effective 47 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:43.520 strategies on how to get volunteers and how to keep volunteers. But in this 48 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.000 when we're going to talk about recruiting volunteers. So, Ye, jump right 49 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:50.360 in, Vicki. Yeah, we're we're going with this article. Okay, 50 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:53.560 so, like you said, this such a difficult ministry. All ministries complain 51 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:59.000 about never having enough volunteers, but I think it's doubly true in such a 52 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:03.000 difficult ministry as sidewalk outreach and and so as I was thinking through this, 53 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:11.280 I was thinking through just personally, how do we seem to most effectively draw 54 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:15.959 volunteers in and what seemed to be the most important strategies and having them remain 55 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:18.680 with us. Yeah, so the first one, and I think it is 56 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:28.040 above and beyond the the single most important and effective strategy, is developing relationships, 57 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:32.040 using the relationships you have develop, looked to that personal touch and drawing 58 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:34.839 those people in. Yeah, so by that I mean, you know, 59 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:44.160 friends of current counselors, churches of current counselors, and having them reach out, 60 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:48.519 your current counselors reaching out in some form. Yeah, yeah, it's 61 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:53.079 kind of like the dynamic of the lowhanging fruit, like who are the people 62 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:56.240 most likely to get involved is going to be the people that know you the 63 00:04:56.279 --> 00:05:00.639 best, that know you that you're not a crazy right, because a lot 64 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:03.800 of what comes a kind of the caricature that comes with this Ministry is, 65 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:08.000 you know, just some loony birds that are out on the sidewalk at an 66 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:13.120 abortion clinic just protesting. Right, people that know you that that might be 67 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:15.079 a turnoff, that caricature might be a turnoff for them. Everyone to get 68 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:18.079 involved when they know you and they know that you're not that, and so 69 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:20.439 they know that what you're doing, what you're asking them to do, is 70 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:25.199 not that. Yeah, so let me give you an example of two personal 71 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:29.279 touches that happened yesterday that were kind of unexpected. They were not quite this, 72 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:32.720 they were not friends, but it was a personal touch where one person 73 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:36.199 happened to pull in. She claimed to be when I was on the sidewalk, 74 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:41.040 claimed to be a Christian and and was furious with us. She she 75 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:45.240 said, you shouldn't be screaming at women and blaming women and and and what 76 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:47.040 do you do to help them? Anyway, and I was able to then 77 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:50.959 calmly explain to her what we do to help and she said frankly, I'm 78 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:56.160 surprised and I gave she was willing to take our information then and really think 79 00:05:56.199 --> 00:06:00.279 about it. So there is a potential person who has been maybe now aged 80 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:03.120 in her feelings about sidewall counseling may decide as a Christian, she needs to 81 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:08.240 be out there. Yeah, but her she had the wrong impression. She 82 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:11.720 thought we were the crazies, that that much of the media her trays. 83 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:17.240 The second personal touch was when I was shopping. It's in a retail store 84 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:21.480 and a woman saw my t shirt at which said hope, hope is here, 85 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:25.319 help us here, and she said tell me about that t shirt. 86 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:30.279 So I started telling her what I do. She started crying and and said 87 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:35.079 how very much needed this was. She was also a Christian and she then 88 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:39.079 we talked about her church, which is not involved, but her church had 89 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:43.160 had expressed an interest in being involved and through that personal touch, which was 90 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:46.600 a very positive one, she said she was going to talk to her church 91 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.399 and she was. She was really impressed. Yeah, I our ministry. 92 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:54.480 So personal touch. Maybe it is personal friends. Yeah, you already have 93 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:57.800 because they know you're not a coup, but maybe it is people that that 94 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:03.519 you meet just not even looking for volunteers. Right. And and your personal 95 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:09.319 touch and building that relationship can make a difference in whether people might consider coming 96 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:13.360 out to the sidewalk to volunteer. Yeah, another thing as far as in 97 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:17.160 this realm of personal touch, of course, family members, friends are people 98 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:19.600 who, yeah, you want to get him out there on the sidewalk and 99 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:24.160 get them involved. But people in your small group at Church, yeah, 100 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:28.319 people that may be volunteer with other ministries that you volunteer with or something like 101 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:31.920 that. Really, I believe, the key, because you can try to 102 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:36.399 explain all day long what what we do and you can do a great job. 103 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:40.480 You guys who are listening can probably do a great job of tearing down 104 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:43.759 the caricature of what we do and why people need to be involved. Right, 105 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.759 but at the end of the day, if you get him out there 106 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:49.240 on the sidewalk, then the Lord will do the work. Right. And 107 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:55.879 we had a young lady yesterday, one of our volunteers, brought out just 108 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:59.600 to come and see the ministry, to shadow, just pray, just to 109 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:03.560 come out and pray, right, and the Lord actually use that that lady 110 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:07.639 to engage with a lady who was Spanish speaking this lady came out. So 111 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.800 we have a volunteer. He's a regular volunteer. She invited a friend out. 112 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:15.319 That friend came out just to pray. Happens to speak Spanish. Pretty 113 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:18.639 Miraculous Story. Happened to be from the same village, that same too, 114 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.040 any little speck of a town. Yeah, that this mom was from. 115 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.040 Yeah, this mom come to the abortion center was from. We need somebody 116 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:26.519 to speak Spanish. Yeah, so, you know, going to the Mobiltra 117 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:31.439 Sounn it chose life, that that lady is now going to be hooked, 118 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:35.240 right would I would think so. She was not certain she would ever want 119 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:37.320 to do sidewalk can see, and she had just come because of her friend 120 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:43.240 right inviting her. And within five minutes I had warned her. Fortunately. 121 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.440 I said, I know we normally do just tell people that they're going to 122 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.159 come and pray, but I do want you to know if we have a 123 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:52.600 Hispanic woman, we're going to ask you to speak with her. And she 124 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:54.159 kind of like gulped and I said, but don't worry, we'll tell you 125 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:58.639 what to say. And then it was within five minutes, within five minutes 126 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.480 of her arriving, this up this woman pulls in. Yeah, it's Hispanic 127 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:05.480 women. So, yeah, great, great example of a personal touch. 128 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:09.639 Yeah, and yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, get people out there, 129 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:15.639 invite him to come out and just come out and pray and obviously don't 130 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.399 pressure them to get involved. Don't lay a guilt trip on them. Let 131 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.080 the Lord do that right. Get Him out there, get them seeing the 132 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.120 women walk in. That's how the Lord got me involved, got me out 133 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.120 there. That's how he got you involved, Vicki got you out there to 134 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:30.720 see it with your own eyes and it's like I got to do something. 135 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.799 Yeah, and actually that feeds into what is the second, I think, 136 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:41.840 most effective strategy, which is social media, because I actually I did know 137 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:46.279 the person who ultimately was the one that ended up bringing me to the sidewalk, 138 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:50.799 but I knew of her only through social media right initially, and then 139 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:54.799 I would meet her. She was a Homeschooler, I was a homeschooler and 140 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.039 she was in my homeschool group and she ended up being a facebook friend. 141 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:03.879 So I had watched her facebook post four years yeah, about what she was 142 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.720 doing out here on the sidewalk, and for years I ignored it, right, 143 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:11.200 but then the lord got a hold of Mirror. It was just one 144 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:15.200 post. I think she had been standing out in a thunderstorm and I was 145 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.679 like, you've got to be kidding. Why would anyone do this? And 146 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.720 I'll end. I wanted to find out and that's what what brought me. 147 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:28.919 So social media is so important right one of the as a practical way to 148 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:33.080 use social media, one of the things that I do is every single morning 149 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.600 I put out a post about what happened on the sidewalk the day before and 150 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:41.600 I put a Bible verse, I put if there were saves, I put 151 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:46.679 the number of saves or I put a highlight, something to attract people and 152 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:54.399 then ask for prayer. And this has attracted people that that are my facebook 153 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:58.000 friends, some of which know me but some of which are only know me 154 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.200 through facebook. Yeah, to come out and find out about the ministry. 155 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:09.679 I really think social media is a very important avenue for recruitment. So so 156 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:15.080 if you're not doing that and you're hurting for volunteers, I would recommend that 157 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:20.120 you really give that a shot. Yeah, and there's so many different social 158 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.919 media now the only one I'm on is facebook, but I have found facebook 159 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:30.159 to be very important. But now there's so many other things that you could 160 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:31.360 do, Tick Tock. I don't even know what all of them are called. 161 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:37.960 So many social media platforms and right ways to communicate. Yeah, yeah, 162 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:43.440 yeah, so, so that's a really valuable tool. Yeah, yeah, 163 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:48.600 and and course, tying into that is not just putting out the need, 164 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:52.840 like you mentioned, right, sharing stories, man, stories are so 165 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:58.759 important people. People don't volunteer with organizations, they volunteer with people, Right. 166 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:01.679 People don't connect with orzations necessarily. The connect with people, right. 167 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:07.080 People don't connect with with causes necessary, they connect with stories. Yeah. 168 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:11.639 And so when you share a story on social media of a mom that chose 169 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:13.759 life or of a struggle that you had, I mean I don't think it 170 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:18.600 all needs to be good stories. Some of it can be. I've shared 171 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:22.360 on social media the fact that some point fifty people are inside of the abortion 172 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:26.840 center. Right like that needs to be shared, yeah, so that people 173 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:31.879 see, okay, there's fifty people inside the abortion center, there's a handful 174 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:35.639 of people out on the sidewalk. We need more folks and, you know, 175 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:39.440 put the needs out there. You do have to be careful not to 176 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:45.960 come across as being just needy and woe is me. People don't get on 177 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:48.720 board with that stuff. Who is a war? We we're out here, 178 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.200 only two of us, and there's so many people do that, like glorying 179 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:54.759 what God is doing. Yeah, there's two people out there. There's two 180 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:56.399 people out there. Praise God for that. We need more people. Let's 181 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:00.639 put it out there in a positive light. I need more feet on the 182 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:05.559 sidewalk. is a reality. But again, sharing stories, sharing what God 183 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.279 is doing. Again, not just babies saved, but maybe people that came 184 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.879 to know the Lord. We've had people just walking by at the abortion center 185 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:18.559 for some other reason come to know the Lord. So many stories. Some 186 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.039 of you guys and other cities you know. I think of like in Manhattan, 187 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.120 some of the experiences that they've had with people just walking by. Like, 188 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.240 share those stories. Let people know God's doing something and they just about 189 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.919 abortion. It's about the Gospel. Yeah, and you know, our model 190 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:39.080 for that is Jesus. Jesus shared stories. The parables were a major way 191 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:45.279 for Jesus to convey the message he wanted to convey. Yeah, so use 192 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:50.840 that that. I don't know desire of all human beings to really hear a 193 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:56.440 good story, because there are good stories, miraculous stories that happen out on 194 00:13:56.840 --> 00:14:01.720 the sidewalk and they really can draw people in. Yes, story of post 195 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:07.519 abortive moms and their despair shows again we would prefer to show the positive side 196 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:11.519 of what we do, but I think showing the negative side of abortion in 197 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:18.120 a compelling way, like through a tragic story, can also encourage people to 198 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.320 recognize we need to be out there stopping this as best we can. So 199 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:28.159 stories are important. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then next something that 200 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.840 we've seen, and this is one of the intentions behind the prayer walk, 201 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:35.399 and as we talk about love life, and I won't lay out the whole 202 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.720 vision of love life here on the podcast, you guys hopefully know about love 203 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.600 life and The the vision of love life that comes from the story of Nehemiah 204 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:48.519 and Neamiah hears. So the kind of four steps of a church getting getting 205 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:52.600 involved comes from neamiah story. The four steps are here, pray, go 206 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:58.240 and connect. So the story Neamiah start near my chapter one, near my 207 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.559 here's the tragic truth. The walls of DREWSALEM are broken down. He prays 208 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:07.320 and fasts, then he goes out to Jerusalem where the walls were broken down, 209 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:11.080 and then he begins to connect people on the wall to rebuild the walls. 210 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:16.120 Yeah, and so when a church gets on board with the adoption week, 211 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:20.159 they hear Sunday the tragic truth of abortion. The moral walls are broken 212 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:24.759 down in our city. How many abortions are taking place to the just wreckage 213 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:28.799 that's there? Yeah, in the walls are broken down. We encourage that 214 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.799 church to pray and fast on that Wednesday for the walls to be rebuilt and 215 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:37.279 then to go on Saturday. And the go piece is the prayer walk. 216 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.759 And at the end of the prayer walk we encourage them to connect, and 217 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:41.879 that's beginning to connect people that have come to the prayer walk, that have 218 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.080 been exposed to the issue of abortion where it takes place and whose hearts are 219 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.879 engage because they've already heard the tragic truth, they've already prayed and fast and 220 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:54.600 they've seen it with their own eyes in the prayer walk. We appeal to 221 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:58.039 them, Hey, get involved in sidewalk out reach. Yeah, get involved 222 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.200 in mentoring, foster care and adoption post aboard of healing. We have different 223 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:07.639 connection pieces, but the sidewalk out reach component is is one of the most 224 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:11.879 like, I want to say, scary, but also one of the most 225 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:18.919 engaging aspects where we connect people. Yeah, and so I think when we 226 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.039 have a need for sidewalk counselors in a particular are particular city, we can 227 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:25.480 talk to those who are doing the prayer walk and say, Hey, let's 228 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:29.519 focus on this connection piece for a couple weeks and let's let's get people connected 229 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:33.440 here. Yeah, and and it is, I think, effective if a 230 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:37.240 sidewalk counselor who has been in the trenches for a while gets in front of 231 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:42.080 those prayer Walk People and tells the story, uses a story to capture their 232 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:47.960 hearts and then expresses the the need. And how they express the need. 233 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:51.519 I think is important and that feeds into our next point. Yeah, which 234 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:57.200 is that general needs people tend to ignore, right, but a specific need, 235 00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:03.119 we're at a specific time, specific number, specific day when volunteers are 236 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:07.880 needed. If that is expressed, I think people are sometimes more willing to 237 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.880 look at their schedule and say hey, I I could feel that this fits 238 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.640 into my sketch. All. Yeah, so, yeah, and so what 239 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:19.039 we mean by that is you can put a general need out of there. 240 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:22.400 Hey, we need more sidewalk counselors, we need more people out here on 241 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:27.279 the sidewalk and people think, oh well, I'll pray for them to have 242 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:33.519 people and maybe I'll consider doing that. But in people put it on the 243 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.480 back burner when you don't get specific with it. Y, if you get 244 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:40.880 specific, not just we need more people, but we want to cover Wednesday 245 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:45.000 and Thursday and right now all we have is a team from nine to twelve 246 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.000 on Thursday. Right, we need a team from nine to twelve on Wednesday. 247 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.160 We need a Te a team from twelve to three on on Wednesday and 248 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:56.119 Thursday or whatever, and that team consists of three people. So if you 249 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:00.559 can get specific, we need three people from non to twelve on Wednesday. 250 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:04.559 People can see that all. Maybe I can feel one of those slots. 251 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:08.559 Yeah, and when people can see they're actually having an impact on that number. 252 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:12.039 So once you commit to volunteer, when somebody commits the volunteer, Hey, 253 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:15.279 we need one more person, we need two more people here. Can 254 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.519 you commit? Will you put those needs out there specifically? People will meet 255 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:22.880 specific needs, be more inclined, I will say, to meet specific needs 256 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:27.000 rather than just general appeals. Yeah, and I know you often say if 257 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:33.480 you explain the why, you don't need to push so heavily into the how 258 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:41.680 and and in it I want to apply this this specific area to that statement, 259 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.119 explaining the why. So if you put out a specific need, like 260 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:51.240 say you tell a story about at one o'clock, when our teams had mostly 261 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:56.480 gone home, but are very dedicated, counselor happened to be there just because 262 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.079 she just couldn't go home. But that's literally the afternoon team's time. We 263 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:06.079 didn't have anyone in the afternoon, but she stayed and a mom came out 264 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:11.920 and told us that she had changed her mind but she really needed our help 265 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.839 and we were able to share that, the specific help that we could give, 266 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:21.279 and that really really solidified that decision for life. But we can't do 267 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:25.200 that if we don't have afternoon teams. So presenting the specific need the specific 268 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:30.160 time, and that maybe why that specific time is is is so critical through 269 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.880 a story. So see, all these things that we're pointing out as areas 270 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:38.720 that help recruitment do all overlap. Yeah, and using all of them, 271 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:41.920 I think, becomes the most effective. Yeah. So, yes, specific 272 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:45.880 need. Yeah, and we can't break down for you what those specific needs 273 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:51.440 are. We normally ask for a commitment no more than four hours really three 274 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:55.079 hours is kind of your sweet spot, I think. Yeah, and so 275 00:19:55.759 --> 00:20:00.039 the abortion center opens it no thirty between and thirty over here. So we 276 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.480 want volunteers to be here from nine to twelve and then from twelve to three. 277 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:07.960 There's a little bit of overlap. There's people come and of course, 278 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:11.519 you know, people may show up a little bit earlier, hopefully, than 279 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:15.440 a little bit later, right, but you know, being specific. None 280 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:19.599 to twelve is good whatever. Maybe it's maybe it's eight to eleven or something 281 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:22.599 from you guys or yeah, or whatever. You have to figure that out. 282 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.720 But yeah, I think it's helpful again to get specific with the needs 283 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.480 that you have. And I know it can be discouraging. Yeah, I've 284 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:36.240 been discourage because I've done all of these strategies at times and we're still finding 285 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:41.279 we are short on volunteers. And I would say then, next strategy is 286 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:48.640 not really a strategy as much as a character quality. Persevere, don't give 287 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:52.680 up. Don't give up, don't don't think that just because the strategy didn't 288 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.680 work in the first month, don't stop right keep doing it. We know 289 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.839 these strategies work, but you do need to keep at them. And Am 290 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:04.960 my own story. It was years right hearing social media reports and there was 291 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:11.559 a cumulative effect of seeing the faithfulness of that person that was posting those reports. 292 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:17.880 That was part of what finally made me say this is not just some 293 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:23.799 you know, unimportant thing that she's doing, or she wouldn't possibly be stippy 294 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:29.960 there here year after year with all of these terrible conditions she faces. So 295 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:33.759 it was her perseverance, in addition to the strategy of posting right Ya, 296 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:38.119 that ultimately brought me out there. Yeah, and I'll say just a little 297 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:42.000 word of advice here in line of perseverance, you certainly want to persevere, 298 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.799 press in, stay out there and do what God's called you to do, 299 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.359 even if people aren't coming along in the numbers that you want them to. 300 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:53.319 But also, you can't do it all. You do need volunteers and so 301 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:59.400 for you to take full ownership of the sidewalk and because they're doing abortions, 302 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:02.759 maybe Monday through Friday or whatever it might be. Yeah, you feel like 303 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:06.200 you need to be out there every Monday through Friday. You cannot do it 304 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:10.279 all. I cannot, and and you know, you got to be careful 305 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:14.720 not to appear on social media whatever to come across like you do have it 306 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:18.119 all handled, because people will let you handle it right. They will cheer 307 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:21.079 you on to do the stuff as long as you'll do it. Al As, 308 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:25.279 it looks like you've got it. Yeah, so I would say you 309 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:27.599 definitely need to be careful not to burn yourself out. Certainly don't be out 310 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:32.279 there every day. You need to disconnect. This is an intense ministry. 311 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:36.599 You need to give yourself time to disconnect spiritually, emotionally, mentally in all 312 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:40.559 that stuff, and trust in the Lord to raise up the people in his 313 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:44.240 timing. You know, the Bible says, and I think that's that's next 314 00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:48.039 on here's to pray for laborers. So pray for these labors. The Bible 315 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.240 says specifically pray the the harvest is plentiful, but the labors are for you. 316 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.359 Therefore pray to the Lord of the harvest that he might send labors. 317 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:59.799 He Jesus, doesn't say, therefore, you need to labor yourself to death 318 00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:03.880 until the the fields are gleaned like they need to be or whatever. No, 319 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:07.680 he says you need to pray for labors in the harvest. So those 320 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:11.200 times you're not be able to be out there, don't lay a guilt trip 321 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.119 on yourself. Put that care, that concern, off on the Lord. 322 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:18.480 Pray to him to bring people and, as he does, of course, 323 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:25.119 plugging them in as appropriate. Yeah, but persevere, but don't wear yourself 324 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:30.920 out right right. The next one is is the importance of that first training 325 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.079 session, and this goes along the lines of how do you keep volunteers, 326 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.240 more than recruiting them. But so you've gotten someone say that's that's going to 327 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:41.839 come out. And I know in general we say they really should not do 328 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:47.240 anything other than pray and observe, but I think in addition to them praying 329 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:51.519 and observing, they should be there should be targeted, specific training. Yeah, 330 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:56.599 where there is someone experienced standing alongside them, helping them to process what 331 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:03.000 they're seeing, explaining what they're seeing, giving the philosophy of why we're out 332 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:07.319 there, the biblical reason for why we're out there. I do that those 333 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:11.079 training sessions, basically following what we call our one hundred and one training, 334 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:18.240 where I give really every major point we raise in our more specific one one 335 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:25.720 video training of new volunteers, because I want them to know that they are 336 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:30.440 going to be trained specifically in how to do all these things and I want 337 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:36.799 them to be able to see everything they're seeing from the lens of our ministry. 338 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:41.359 Yeah, which they may not get if there is no one kind of 339 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:45.880 beside them. Yeah, telling them what's happening, why it's happening, why 340 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:49.000 we say what we say, whatever. And I have found that if that 341 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:55.759 first training session, when they show up and that first time is spent really 342 00:24:55.799 --> 00:25:00.640 fruitfully explaining and being right there next to them, you hear all kinds of 343 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.440 stories from them. You help them process the emotions, you're there for the 344 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:08.519 questions and I think those are the ones that are most likely to return. 345 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:14.799 Yeah, so I think you cannot underestimate the power of that first time when 346 00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:18.519 them, but that be a really fruitful experience. Yeah, yeah, I 347 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:21.839 agree. We call that shadowing. Right, right when a person comes out, 348 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:25.319 they connected love life some way, maybe through a prayer walk or go 349 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:30.240 on the website, through another volunteer, another missionary that invites them out. 350 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:34.200 That first time they come out, we call it shadowings. All they're doing 351 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.599 is they're shadowing the team that's out there or the individual that's out there. 352 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:41.480 Maybe not have a big team, maybe it's just you, but let them 353 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.039 come and shadow you just watch we tell them we don't want you to engage 354 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.720 right now, we want you to pray and observe and ask questions. And 355 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:51.640 so you do your thing right if it's just you out there in the person 356 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:53.839 shadow, when you you do what you normally do. Yeah, and then 357 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.759 when you when it's appropriate, step maybe over to where they're at praying and 358 00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:03.400 observing and say you have any questions and explain to them why you're doing what 359 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:07.119 you're doing. Yeah, I think laying out the boundaries so that you don't 360 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:08.920 have to deal with the police, because we had new people that come out 361 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:12.000 for the first time and if we haven't clearly explained the boundaries, they go 362 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:15.839 and walk on the abortion center property. They just don't know any better, 363 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.200 right. They're thinking, you know whatever, they don't even know where the 364 00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:22.400 boundaries are at their thinking they're in the parking lot of another business eventually as 365 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:25.319 abortion cent or something like that, and so I think, you know, 366 00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:27.160 just some practical stuff you'd lay out on that shadowing, but also, like 367 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:32.519 you said, giving the philosophy of the ministry is helping them along in the 368 00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:37.160 process to feel like they're equipped at you're they're not just out there kind of 369 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:40.200 thrown out there to the wolves, right, but they're getting some training. 370 00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:44.559 Yeah, they're being coached and talked through the thing. Yeah, by somebody 371 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:47.480 that actually knows what they're doing. Yeah, that may or may not be 372 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:49.680 possible. As you were talking, I was thinking when there's only two of 373 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:53.480 us out there and we happen to have scheduled someone that I'm supposed to be 374 00:26:53.480 --> 00:27:00.240 training, it is less possible for me to just stand beside them the whole 375 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.160 time. Idiot. They will have to just watch what we do sometimes and 376 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.799 then when we're able to step back and talk with them. Ideally, though, 377 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.039 if you can have a large enough team that you really can devote your 378 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.480 your time, yeah, with them that that first session. I think it's 379 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:21.559 really effective. Yeah, absolutely. I know one years in years past, 380 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.279 the way we did thing is things as far as raising up new volunteers, 381 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:29.759 as we'd put a general call out there on social media to any church partners 382 00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.599 that we had and say we're doing a classroom training, and that's how we 383 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.400 started. We would start with the classroom training. We're doing a sidewalk one 384 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:40.440 hundred and one training. Anyone who's interested in doing sidewalk ministry, come and 385 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.000 be a part of that and we would get, I don't know, Fifteen, 386 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.160 twenty people, yeah, at a time. We do it every other 387 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:51.000 month or something like that, maybe every quarter. And so we would find 388 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:53.240 we'd have a group of fifteen or twenty people, yeah, and we'd pour 389 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.200 into them. We'd actually trained them before they were even out there. It's 390 00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.839 kind of a looking back, kind of a weird way to do it right. 391 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.680 We would give them training of how to do this before they actually wear 392 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.200 out there even saw it, which, you know, could be good, 393 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:10.799 could be bad, but either way that's how we did it. But we 394 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:14.960 would find that after we trained fifteen to twenty people and then brought him out 395 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:17.799 there, part of that training was in a classroom. Then the other the 396 00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:21.240 second half of it, during that day, we did it on Saturdays, 397 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:22.960 would bring them out to the abortion center and then they would be able to 398 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:27.200 experience it right, but of the twenty people or so, we'd have one 399 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.799 or two that would actually be serious. Yeah, yeah, and we started 400 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.119 thinking like we're putting together. It's essentially an event that we're putting together. 401 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:36.319 You know, you got to get breakfast for people if you're going to have 402 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:40.200 them there early, and you gotta have a venue and all that stuff, 403 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.279 and it's like, man, we're putting energy into these events, he's training 404 00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:45.319 events and only getting one or two people out of it. Is there a 405 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:49.759 better way? And the better way is because reality is they were in the 406 00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:52.960 classroom. That was a safe place to be and they had all these notions 407 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.319 about what sidewalk ministry was, but when you brought him out there to the 408 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.480 sidewalk, a lot of those notions were dispelled. Like this is this is 409 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:06.400 a intense ministry. Yeah, this is a pretty difficult ministry, and you're 410 00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:07.880 not just going to be out there it's the savior of the world. When 411 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.920 you show up, because of how great you are, women are going to 412 00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:14.119 flock to you and choose life. Like there's some difficulties. Yeah, and 413 00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:18.039 so that's why people would come with these good intentions and then when they're exposed 414 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.200 to it, they would just they would disappear right exactly when you follow up 415 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.279 with them. You get ghosted right. Yeah, and so we found that 416 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.880 shadowing was a better way. Let them come out and see it first, 417 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.440 and we actually asked them to shadow three times, come out three times, 418 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.160 see the ministry, ask questions and then after the third time. We asked 419 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.200 him, okay, are you serious about getting committed? Yeah, and get 420 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.359 plugged into this ministry. If they are, then they fell out an application 421 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.720 and if their applications approved, they're not a crazy or anything like that. 422 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.680 We send them the video training, the one hundred and one training that you've 423 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.559 mentioned a couple of times. Yeah, and then after they've completed that, 424 00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:57.240 that's when we plug them into a team. Which Day can you volunteered? 425 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:02.160 Monday, Wednesday, afternoon, good morning. We plug them into a team 426 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:07.240 and then there's ongoing training that we do. But all along they're being kind 427 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:12.279 of they're being coached through, they're being encouraged and they're being challenged and, 428 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:15.279 you know, you kind of push them out of the nest a little bit. 429 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.319 You put a pamphlet in second time they come in shadow. We actually 430 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.640 we get them to engage in some level. Put a pamphlet in their hand, 431 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:25.240 put him at the driveway, something like that. Yeah, it's what 432 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.759 we've seen the IT's the most effective way, I think, to train people 433 00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.599 in Sidewalk Ministry and to vet people who have interest in sidewalk right, I 434 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.480 agree, and letting them know what the process of training will be. I 435 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.960 think encourages them to know there will be ongoing training, yeah, for them. 436 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.240 And then our last point took to close out this podcast is a point 437 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:51.680 you rate alluded to earlier. But don't forget to praise God no matter what, 438 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:55.759 because all of us can fall into that trap of discouragement, disillusionment, 439 00:30:55.880 --> 00:31:00.319 bitterness whatever, blaming the church whatever, and we don't want to fall into 440 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.200 that trap and the easiest way to hold that at bay is to look for 441 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.559 the positive and praise God for what you do have out there. Yeah, 442 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:12.839 if I mean you've got I remember years ago we've got six days they're doing 443 00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:18.000 abortions here the latter abortion center. Really only one day that we have consistent 444 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.599 coverage out there. Yeah, and it was always like where's the church yet? 445 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.960 Right man, we need people. It took some time, but God 446 00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:30.839 raised up the people. Yeah, and I think by His grace he gave 447 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:38.279 us, he gave us a way to kind of temper our discouragement and disillusionment 448 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:41.559 with the church, like where's the church at? And we're able to just 449 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.880 be patient and glory in what God has done. See, a lot of 450 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.880 times we can look at what we don't have. Right, we don't have 451 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.680 people out here. We don't and we can miss what we do have. 452 00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:56.359 If you've got a handful to three volunteers, man, these are two or 453 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.599 three people that are speaking out a place of death. They're speaking life, 454 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.400 they're shining light in darkness. Listen, the Bible says God can save by 455 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.759 many or by few. Now we want many, yeah, and I think 456 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:12.799 the goal is many. We need ultimately, we need many people out there 457 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.440 so we can all bear the burden together. Yeah, but God can save 458 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.839 by few as well. So let's just have confidence in the Lord. Let's 459 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.200 put it on him, let's pray to the Lord of the harvest. And 460 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.240 just please know, guys, as you're listening, if you're one of our 461 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.480 love life cities, we're praying for you constantly for God to raise up people. 462 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.200 Yes, for cities where you're maybe you're not a love life city, 463 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:35.759 we're still praying. We're praying God, throughout the nation, is raising up 464 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.279 people to be a voice for the voiceless and to bring his Gospel to these 465 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:42.240 places of darkness. So just know that we're praying for you, guys. 466 00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.559 We put these podcasts out to encourage you guys. So, as we always 467 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.039 do, encourage you guys to reach out to us. You can reach out 468 00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.680 to me, Daniel, love life dot orgy, reach her, Vicky at 469 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.759 Love Life Dot Org. We love to encourage you, love to talk with 470 00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:58.440 you, share with you, maybe even some more strategies about how to raise 471 00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.400 up folks if, if, you have some questions about that. But until 472 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:09.319 next time, God, bless God, bless y'all. Give me our lift 473 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:22.799 for love. Give me our lift for gratitude. I know it will cost 474 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:37.920 me my life. Nothing's too precious. And some met you