Prayer and Worship in Front of An Abortion Clinic-Interview with Andre Gonzalez

0:00 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, Lord, I am you. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast and this episode we're going to talk with city director for Love Life Charlotte, Andrea Gonzalez, about his heart for prayer and worship at an abortion center. Stay tuned, Lord. I felt show passis touch your heart. All right. Well, welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. I have with me today Andrea Gonzalez, who is the director, city director of Love Life here in Charlotte, and he's going to share his heart and really talk about prayer and worship in front of an abortion clinic. Clinic. It's not the only thing that they do, but it's a big part of what they do and bring in churches and things like that out there, real close partner ministry with us, and so I'm going to get him to share his heart about that.

1:00 So real quick Andre Introduce Yourself. Your road at I get that right? Or Yeah, the city directed, city director, okay, Charlotte, focus on Charlotte. Okay. Cool. And as a city director, what does that entail like? What do you do in that role? So I mainly oversee all the Saturday prayer walks, okay, the Sunday morning launches and a Sunday morning launches we get churches to preach on the same epity of life and we'll come into our presentation and we bring education and awareness on the issue of abortion, okay, in Charlotte, and that's where we get all them to come to the pro walk on Saturday. Yeah. So, and then I oversee recruiting, okay, recruiting the new churches, getting the old churches to come back, and then I've got a couple areas that I'm overseeing.

1:47 Yeah, okay. So you have in that role, you have a lot of connection in with pastors. Yeah, Church. I mean just this morning, main role. How many pastors were out this morning? They were too youth pastors and one senior pastor, okay, and then a congregational leader. Yeah, that's so you get to see kind of in that in that setting, or at least with those connections, you get to see how the prayer walks and that kind of thing impacts two churches and impacts the pastors and that sort of thing, which we'll talk about that and just a little bit. But I want to talk about you and you sort of you know, did a podcast with Justin. Who is that? Who's the founder of love life. He's the boss and he say he's your boss and God's doing all kinds of stuff through him and through you guys. And you know, I talked to him a little bit from the perspective, at least got him to talk from the perspective of being sort of new to the pro life movement. Right, you know, as Christians we become Christians. We agree that, you know, life begins a conception. Every life deserves to be protected. But to really get into full frontal battle with this, with this abortion demon so to speak, is a yeah, and it's and it's a it's a step for not everybody can say, you know, I'm part of the pro life movement. I would say at this point you are. Yeah, and you've been involved for four, three or four years. Love life started three and a half years ago and I had the privilege of kind of launching it with Justin. Yeah, Justin's vision. God spoke to him and laid out this vision. He actually had already had a director lined up that was going to be his director and do everything, and he canceled on them. Yeah,

3:21 two weeks later I called them and I saw that he went to my church and that he had a job opening and it was a sales position. I did it was with his other businesses, not with Minister, with industry. Yeah, and I wanted to get back into full time ministry. I had a passion for prayer, for worship, young people, missions and revival and unity while the church. These are things, but I didn't know exactly how all that would work. I thought about starting my own FID one, c three, and I'd actually done that several years back and didn't go as I had hoped. Yeah, and so I'd always actually I always felt that I would partner up with a businessman and we would do this thing together. So who would have thought that, actually knowing this? But he's a younger businessman.

4:12 Yeah, and unbelievably smart and just cool what God has done. So always, I start telling Him my vision over the phone and he said, you know, I think you're calling about a different position. Want you come to my office and I'll tell you about it. So the very next day I went to interview with his dad and his brother there at a superior wash company, and he began to share his vision and is, Hey, let me take you out to the abortion center? Yeah, have you ever been out here? And I said no, I didn't know we've really had one. It was completely off of my rnar. Yeah, before that I had all his own staff at a local church. I was the worship pastor for four and a half years and I had started this ministry called Unite Charlotte and it was a desire to bring the churches together to worship and to pray and ask God for revival, for awakening. Church is coming out and we would see real transformation shift through prayer and worship. And we did six of these events and the very last one we did we had forty churches all participate and we had about one hundred people all come out for this night of worship.

5:19 Oh Yeah, Central Piedmont Community College and the auditorium area. And at the end of that that Unite Charlotte event, my pastor called me in and said, Hey, we're cutting it and pretty much amount of a job. Wow. And here's the thing. I was excited. I'm like, all right, Lord then you've got something, something different for me, or you're going to allow me to do this, maybe on my own or but anyways, three and a half years went by, I was out of ministry, full time, Fivefold Ministry. Yeah, and that's what I met Justin and Justin brought me to the abortion center, told me the tragic truth and said that he wanted to get the church out there to pray, not to protest, not the whole size, not to pick it, but to pray. And when he said prayer, I was like that's it. Yeah, that's my heart. Yeah, that's why I feel like God has called me to do to get the church out here to pray. And he said he wants to do a forty week journey of hope and get churches to adopt one week out of that forty weeks and then get them to come to the abortion center to pray. and to me, I in my mind I thought this is like taking them on a mission trip. Yeah, yeah, this is opening an opportunity for instead of just having one big night of worship and prayer rushing, do forty of them every Saturday at the darkest place in our city and we're going to worship and we're going to pray and we're going to leave for moms to choose life and really ultimately praying for people. Get give the hearst of

6:54 Christ. Yeah, and so he offered me the job. So I'm like yes, I'll do it. So it's like man, yeah, I mean that's sort of what happened to me with with cities for life. You know, I've been involved, you know, since two thousand and five, out there on the sidewalks and and you know, then cities for life was started apart from me. I was a part of it, but I didn't help started or anything. The bad rooms got started that thing, and then I get a call out of the blue from from those guys like Hey, man, we started this minister, you're part of it. We need somebody to lead it. Well, you think you might want to pray about being the director of this thing? Like well, let's see, you know, full time ministry, doing what the Lord has called me to do, and you're going to pay me to do it. Yeah, I'll pray about it. I'm pretty sure is the will of God. And it was like yeah, the Lord is also actually does it. I mean when you're sharing like those, they sort of your heart and the aspects of really what God has called you to and what he's put in your heart. It's like that's all tied together in this love life vision, you know, the prey and worship, which is why I wanted to have you come and talk about pray and worship, because it's like it emanates from you. Your your prayer warrior. You're a worshiper. We've had you come and lead worship at the Rovy Wade memorial where you've played, and it's like, man, you just you have an anointing for worship. But you know, with you know, one worship leader some years back was talking about leading worship. I read a book, or what I get who it was. Might Have Been Matt Redman, he said he was saying, you know, we're not worship leaders where actually lead worshippers?

8:16 Yep, and so we're leading people into worship, but we're not like heading this thing up. We're just we're worshiping and they come along. And I see that with you, like when I see you out front, it's with the prayers and you know, the prayer walks. You guys are going around the circle. I see you out front and you're praying and you're worshiping. Yeah, and you're engaged. You you're like, you know, locked on to the Lord, praying, yeah, and it's a it's an awesome blessing for me because we're out there on the front lines and we're reaching out and we're certainly in prayer. You pray without ceasing, but our attention is toward those moms. Yes, say, man, okay, we got this, this group of people that are behind us, back in us in prayer. Yeah, don't real quick if you can. I want to get into some of the effect that you've seen that prayer and worship has had within the churches. Obviously we've seen the effect that prayer worship has at the abortion center.

9:09 We've seen like today. Yeah, it Wednesdays are typically the slowest day at the business abortion. Kind of CAN CHARLOTTE, but still there's twenty abortions. Yeah, on a Wednesday. Today they were like seven. Wow, seven people showed up. One actually chose Lafe. So we see, and this is Wednesday, this is when the church, you guys are calling the church to prayer and fasting. Yeah, we had six churches commit to praying and fasting today. Yeah, yeah, and so we see like Moorsville and one in Cornelia. Yeah, but before we talk about that, and so some of the effect that you're seeing in the Churches Chair, a little bit of your kind of your heart for the issue of abortion and how how abortion is touched your family. I know you have a story, at least you and your family, where that's that's been you know, think you guys have dealt with so my mom had three abortions and she kept it a secret for seventeen years. I was on a mission trip. I used to work with a youth missions organization. We her in Venezuela and we had all the kids there. There are several hundred kids and I remember saying to all the kids, and I feel like God is wanting to set people free of some shame and guilt that you've been caring for years. Yeah, and so if that is you, would you come on up? We want to pray for you.

10:28 And all these kids came up and I looked over and I saw my mom crying in the back and of course you know, you don't never want to see your mom crying. You know what's going on. So after we minister to the kids, they kind of escorted me back to where she was at because she was crying so hard, and she went to tell me that she had three abortions and she's kept it a secret for for a long time, for seventeen years, and that word was for her. Yeah, and that was really the first really experience I had with abortion. Yeah, this happed. You know, what happened before my mom got saved? She had gotten divorced. You know, through a divorce is just so hard. Yeah, and after the abortions, of course she felt so guilty. But then she gave her heart to Christ and she knew God forgave her of all her sins are all the passing, but she still walked around with the shame and the guilt and not telling anybody. Yeah, so that was it. Yeah, that's all I knew about the issue of abortion. I was prolife.

11:31 Obviously, the word of God's very clear. Yeah about that. Life starts at conception and even before we even in our mother's womb. God knows us and as a call and a plane for us. Yeah, we know from Jeremiah. But that was it. Yeah, and so when Justin told me, told me this this vision, I got excited because I was I had really had no experience with pro life ministry. But to me I saw this in mission field. Yeah, and opportunity to mobilize the church to the darkest place. That's, you know, one of the things. I mean, obviously you're not airing your mom's dirty laundry. She shares her testimony, she's God's using her and bringing healing to other people. That's one of the things that actually it's sort of wasn't like when you guys got started in doing love life. You know, I saw it use prayer, support, you, bringing the church out. It's a win right, but it really didn't enter my mind, and I don't know why, because it's an obvious thing, but it didn't into my mind how much it would have an effect on people who are post aboarded. Yeah, because, you know, I think the statistic was the statistics seventy some percent of people to have abortions are from you Christian or Christians from the church. And so what we heard as far as evangelical churches, what we've heard that it was it's fifty four percent of people claim to be Christians that are having abortions and actually fifty four percent of the people were actually in an evangelical church within the month of their abortion. Yeah, so that's a lot of yeah, Christians that are in our churches that are having abortions. Yeah, absolutely. And so when I when you started

13:03 charing with me and now you guys, I don't think he started with a focus on post aboard of healing. I think it was like your two or three. You guys really brought that in as a piece. But you started finding, at least you shared with me, and Justin a share with me, some people who are coming to the pair walks and they're getting they're getting set free from the guilt and the shame of their past abortions. Even some, yeah, I haven't had an abortion at that very abortion clinic. Yeah, coming out so so so talking about sort of the effect that the prayer walks have had and love life has had within the churches. Yeah, what are some of the fat effects? And certainly share the post aboard of healing effect, but also, like, are you seeing pastors? Yeah, who are? You know, their pro life and we believe that we should vote for pro life candidates and all this, but now they're being activated to go down just voting or whatever. Ye, seeing that sort of thing. They're actually we felt like the Lord has made this vision so clear and so easy to do. It's become a pathway, yeah, for people to say hey, I'm pro life, but now I can do something. I'm going to pray and fast. On Wednesday I'm going to go to the abortion center.

14:09 For All these years people be afraid to actually go to an abortion center. Yeah, because of maybe what they've seen on TV or what they've heard. It's just the scary thing. And now now that we're there every week, people are like, Oh, I can go. The worst I get as I get yelled at or mocked. Yeah, but that's it. That and Bible says we're blessed when we're persecuted. Yeah, and and and they're coming there, being a part of it and their mobile legs and their people, and it's been cool. Yeah, it's been awesome. Yees. Yeah, so you're seeing pastors who really, you know, who might preach a pro life message, you know, once in a blue moon or never, or never. Yeah, you're seeing those pastors sort of like jolted right and they're letting their jump started into actually getting their congregations and an abortion clinic. Yeah, which is which is a big deal. Like that's that's what the American church does not do. That all right, that we stay as far as we can away from controversial issues, right right. And so you're seeing some pastors of even some pretty big churches like getting involved, right. Yeah, yeah, it's to me it's the know as a ministry, being on the sidewalks and that sort of thing. It's been sort of our goal. Yeah, but to have the energy to do all the what you guys are doing and connected with the pastors and giving them an avenue. Like a pastor asked me, so what do you want me to do? My thing is come out to the abortion clinic, come out there in stand with us. But you, you guys are sort of giving them an avenue to take not just themselves but their whole congregation into yes battle. Yeah, people ask us,

15:39 how are you doing this? We PRC's and and organizations that we've been trying for years to get pastors to come out, to get the whole congregation, to get people out there praying. But we could get maybe three or four or five people. How are you doing this? And we tell him this, it's a God thing. Yeah, I believe. I believe God is saying now is the time, just like God spoke to Moses and say hey, I have indeed seen the misery of my people. Now Go. Yeah, it's like it was a certain time when God said enough is enough with the Israelites. Moses, I'm sending you to go to set my people free. I believe that God is saying now was the time the church must awaken.

16:22 Go Be Moses, the it's all come together, as Charlotte. Be Like Moses to in the abortion industry. Be Like Moses income to that stronghold of abortion and said let my people go. Yeah, I believe it's a God that. I feel like God is doing something that could end up in the end to abortion. And I mean, I tell you this just from my perspective. If you have four thousand Christians at an abortion clinic, you have you have revival, right, you have something happening. There's some kind of now my saying that as a city, we've know, there's sweeping revival and right, you know what I mean? I say in one sense, yeah, because you just don't have fourzero Christians, and I know who're some clinic pray and are doing anything. Let's go moment that that first year we would have got fourzero people to come out. Yeah, never in a million years. Yeah, and then these, I think you said this coming Saturday.

17:18 You guys are going to have three or four hundred right? Yeah, this this Saturday was abouts a regular Saturday and it we should have about three hundred. Yeah. Yeah, a couple couple months ago I was like, man, they're five hundred people here. I don't from all these churches and you're seeing, you know, different denominations. You're seeing them come together and sort of those walls come down. MMM, we got Presbyterian churches that are adopting. We have a lot of Baptist churches. Out of all the denominations, the Baptist have shown up the most. Yeah, because what we've been told is it that the Baptist are very mission minded. There used to go on missions and they've they've connected this as mission trip. Yeah, a lot of Pentecostal churches, a lot of nondenominational churches. They're all just coming and thinking, Hey, we're going to put our denomination aside. We believe in life. We know God believes in life, so we're going to show up.

18:06 Yeah, and that again, man, that's like this is this is this is God breathing, yeah, on this city and bringing when you have those denominational walls come down and you know, there's certainly there's denominational distinctions for a reason. Right, I don't know, poopoo denominations. I think it's some sense. It does offend the Lord that we can't get along in some ways, but to see us kind of getting along and getting God's heart for this issue of abortion, say we're going to let this, these differences, just kind of go by the wayside and we're going to focus on what God's heart is on. To me that's man gods vain. All I agree reads. It's revival man. Yeah, with you have so you guys have seen, and I've heard the testimonies, but you've seen when you, you know, people come out to a prayer walk on the Saturday, you guys sort of set up, you have a little stage area that you set up and you share testimony, you share the tragic truth again about the babies that are being killed in our cities by abortion. And then at the end, I see you guys, you're given an ultra call. Now, yeah, right, you're giving an alto call for people to give their lives to Jesus.

19:06 Yeah, you're given ultra call for people to get healing from past abortions. We're actually trying. Only if the Lord leaves us to do that because of that issue is so delicate. What we try to do is say hey, if you've had an abortion your past, there's a table, get one of our cards. We actuld give a card to everybody. Yeah, so they could a woman because they feel so much shamed, so much guilt, and they're afraid to tell anybody. A lot of times they haven't told their husband or they haven't told their children that are adults. They see. Yeah, told. So when at the end of the prayer walk, everybody gets a card and it's to get connected to our sort of life ministry, which is another one of our partners. Yeah, and then then they'll call that number and get connected. We have about ninety seven women and all that are doing the bibles. Wow, that's apazing to me. Yeah, that's really that's really an actually, excuse me, a hundred and thirty this year. Okay, yeah, yeah, I got the number and, like I said, I didn't. That wouldn't even a thought in my mind. I don't know why it wasn't, but how much God would use you guys in the prayer walks in front of an abortion clown to get people set free from their past abortions. You know, the one of the things I'll say for us, you know, it's a blessing for us and side will counseling that you know, you guys are taking them. You know, we talked about this.

20:15 It's like a short term mission trip, right. You're taking them to the abortion center. They're feeling the spiritual warfare. They're not engaging, they're just praying. They're worshipmen, but they're feeling spiritual warfare and some of those people are like, you know what, prayer, awesome, and he continue to pray, but I want to take the next step. And we've gotten volunteers. Yeah, from from you guys. Matter of fact, that's our number one source of volunteers now, people that have come out for the prayer walks, wow, and and so we're we're activating them. If we've had man, that's that's a question for Vicki. Of How many. Yeah, how many we've had, but well, I mean we've got days where we have, in your ten volunteers, which is hasn't happened right. I mean we've had days in the past where some by some miraculous thing, we'd have ten people out there, but now it's on a regular basis. We're seeing we're seeing people coming out, we're seeing people wanting to get involved and take it a step further. Yeah, which is which is really awesome for us and it really speaks to that whole like people are being, yeah, wakened, awakened, and and God is moving. I want to talk that. I want to share with your passage. I'm sure this is probably near and due to your heart. Second Chronicles and Chapter Twenty, and this is Josephat.

21:23 You know it. Josaphat is under threat. A lot of you guys, you guys, refer back to Neemiah and then rebuilding the wall, which is awesome kind of spiritual analogy of what we're doing with this. But this is a passage that talks about the talks about worship right and talks about leading and worship. You to Josephat was under threat. They're going to be attacked, about the Korites, or know whatever, whoever's attacking them. Anyway, they am rights and says when he consulted with the people, he appointed those who would sing to the Lord and who should praise the beauty of holiness as they went before the army. And we're saying praise the Lord for His mercy endors forever. So it's Joseph at. The king has now put the worshippers in front to prepare for battle. And we understand our our battle is not against flesh and brother blood, it's against principalities and rulers and and people, these demonic forces, pure demonic is out. Yeah, yeah, because that's what the abortion industry has. It's A and we're in a spiritual battle. I was actually talking to a guy the other day who goes out to the abortion center sees not terribly keen on the idea of worship and prayer in front of an abortion clinic, and I was sharing with him. I was like, man, you don't get it. Like Joseph, Joseph at, if he wanted to win this battle, he had to put the worshipers out front.

22:41 This is worship, this is leading about prayer and worship. Yeah, and staring. Don't you see that? I don't have a clue what you're even talking about. Like it was like this is this is the heart of God. Yeah, worship and prayer. When we live up the Lord, his presence come, his presence moves on behalf of his people. So talk a little bit about your heart for that, your heart for to bring in, you know, the presence of God. We know that the I, the Lord, is in every place because it's of God feels the earth. Yeah, but they are particular manifestations of God's presence in special ways throughout the Bible and we see those, yeah, today, when God just moves on heart. Yeah, talk a little bit about that and just bringing the presence of the Lord through worship. So check this out. I saw this video a while back. was called the transformation videos. Do you remember you ever seen it? Maybe I don't. I got to send you the link. Okay, it's it's a a documentary of when God showed up in different places and it's by God named Georgeos Junior. It's an older video. Okay. I remember watching it and I remember crying, like bawling when I saw what was already in here. But I actually saw it happen, yeah, my own eyes. And in the middle s Calli Columbia was overrun by the drug cartels.

23:56 They had had seven major drug cartels in Calle Columbia that had overrun the city. Between the seven drug cartels they were bringing in five hundred million dollars a month. Yeah, and revenue. So when you're making that kind of money, you've owned you own the police, you own politicians and you pretty much rule the roost. Yeah, and what they were saying is that they would be upward upwards a fifteen murders a day in cally Columbia, and it was mostly drug cartel related. Yeah, fighting amongst each other like Smu each other, drug wars, blah, Blah Blah, and then a lot of innocent lives would die in the midst of it. But fifteen earners day in a city, that's a lot. Yeah. So the Church got together and said we've got to get our city back to Jesus and they had this idea to pack out one of the smaller stoker soccer stadiums and to do it all night, night of worship and prayer, to pray for God for revival.

25:02 Yeah, and Calie Columbia. And they did that and after forty eight hours the news headlines said this, not one murder in in the city that particular weekend. Yeah, they said they had never seen that and people like we need to do this again. Yeah, it's going to work. So the very next month they did again, and it's hard to grow and grow. They did it for like nine months. They packed out the really big soccer stadium and they worshiped and they prayed all night long. Imagine that. Yeah, all night long. And at the end of those nine months, the the headlines said the government took down six out of the seven drug cartel leaders and a revival broke out. Yeah, and tons of people started getting safe, celebrity started getting saved, churches were having services all over from seven in the morning all the way to seven to night. You imagine that? Yeah, because so many people were coming to her. There was a revival and awakening. In the midst of that, the leader got shot. So they experienced major persecution. Yeah, but but when I saw that, I had this heart and passion to do that here in Charlotte. Yeah, like could worship and prayer be a catalyst to see real transformation happened in a city, to see revival awakening happened in the city? And so we're seeing that.

26:30 Yeah, we're seeing record numbers of saves than ever. Never for I get your numbers from you. Yeah, and you you continue will tell me, hey, we had one save on Saturday. We had two, we had three and then you told me. You said, by the way, all of last year. Maybe you told me, I can remember, but but all the last year we had thirty one moms choose life on Saturday during the prayer walk. Because are you that told me that or, as probably, our records could be Yourrec I was our records. Yeah, so we had thirty one moms choose life. Now we're right next to the abortion center and we're worshiping and we're praying and we are already at forty nine moms and days that have chosen life. But actually fifty baby safe, because one of those babies, one of those MOMS, were carting twins. Okay. Yeah, so so we're in week twenty nine and boom the numbers are up because we are doing it closer. Yeah, proximity has made a difference. When the light chose up, darkness mustly. Yeah, and there's the ibospirre changing.

27:26 Yeah, so you know, we I've heard this even before you guys got started doing what you're doing, but I heard even a lot now from the pro abortion people and they'll say, you know, they'll quote Matthew, Chapter Five, I believes, Chapter Five, Chapter Seven, word. Jesus says, when you pray, go in your going your closet and pray, and it's like they use that to to imply that, yeah, you shouldn't pray in public. Right, well, Jesus is obviously talking about praying to give attention to yourself, right, yea. And people, and let me just tell you, in this day and age, if you want to tention to yourself, you don't go and pray at an abortion clinic, right, you don't do that. Typically you stay in your comfortable seat and you go to church. Yeah, and that's it. Yeah, that's that's you don't draw aten. Yeah. So we're called to Yep, you know, the presence of God is in us. We are individually as Christians, filled with the Holy Spirit, but when the church comes together and praise and worships, that really brings a particular presence of the Lord like this, this this sense.

28:23 We've had moms choose life. Yeah, who felt the presence of the Lord. They knew that group of people over there was praying and chose life. Man. Yeah, I mean that's that's an awesome testimony. So a goodness of God, and the cool thing about it is is is we cannot do this without you. It's people need to understand that. It this is not just a love life thing. This is we have come in partnership with help pregnancy center and you guys, and all three of us have locked arms and said, let's see this place close down. Yeah, let's pray. And how cool it is that we actually other pool life ministries are all in unity with each other. Yeah, that's cool. That is that's why we're seeing the results. Yeah, and it takes it takes that humility and and ultimately recognizing that it's not about cities for life, love life, for help pregnancy center or whatever. It's about God, it's about what he's doing and we're just sort of as ministries, different vehicles that the Lord uses. But ultimately, you know, I like Justin's heart and your heart too, that ministry should flow out of the local church. Yep, this is really about this is not about love life just trying to advance its ministry or cities for life trying to advance its ministry. It's like we're trying to equip and empower the local churches, yeah, to do the work. Yeah, that's why I like the the the fact that it's all pastor Greg Sloop, couple of weeks ago, who's leading one of the pretties. You were, you were on vacation, you with your family. I took the flay to the beat.

29:49 Yeah, you're getting these pastors. Yeah, that's that's awesome. Yeah, and I know you guys are going to continue to do that. Well, you know, pretty much. That's that's the conversation. Man. I appreciate you coming and sharing your heart with us, man, and I appreciate your heart. I do. I appreciate you. Every time I see you. It's like, man, we're in this thing together, right, bring this battle together. So I appreciate you, man, appreciate you sharing with us and appreciate all those who joined us on this podcast. Hope that you're blessed by it. If you could share this podcast, share it with your friends, with your family, tell him to like the podcast or two, to leave a review on the podcast and to visit us. If you want to visit these guys, it's Love Life Dot Org. Right, Love Life Dot Org. You can connect with Andre if you want to connect with those guys.

30:38 You want to connect with me, CHARLOTTE, dot cities for Life Dot Org is our website. And my email address is there in the contacts, but we just took that. You be blessed as you continue to listen these podcasts. Have you're blessed with this one and and and continue to speak for life, continue to serve the Lord wherever he's put you, and come one out to a prayer walk. Amen, every Saturday till November sixteen. Yeah, Amen. And then November sixteen will be the big one. We're going to have about eight thousand people out here. Bring that would be that's gonna be awesome. Yes, all right. Well, God bless use, Milan, use, give me, give me. It will cost me my life, but not too precious inside.