Overcoming the Language Barrier

WEBVTT100:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.439I wrestled with that. I willsay I wrestled with that, but I200:00:04.000 --> 00:00:09.519decided that, you know, Iwas really use the Devil's tool against him,300:00:09.519 --> 00:00:14.599like to Lingo. Knew that you'relearning Spanish to lead people to Jesus400:00:14.640 --> 00:00:17.920and to help people right choose lifefor their babies. They probably wouldn't be500:00:18.000 --> 00:00:21.679very happy with it. That's right, they probably would not. I Am600:00:21.800 --> 00:00:27.600Yours, I am yours, Iam yours, and me Lord, I700:00:27.640 --> 00:00:33.119am yours, I am yours.I'm welcome to the Gospel Center Pro Life800:00:33.159 --> 00:00:38.560Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you in pro life900:00:38.600 --> 00:00:44.479ministry, and always with a focuson the Gospel. Stay tuned. I1000:00:44.479 --> 00:00:58.280felt show pass touch your home.Use He there. Welcome to the Gospel1100:00:58.399 --> 00:01:03.240centered pro life podcast. I amhere. I'm Vicki Kazi York. I'm1200:01:03.240 --> 00:01:07.239a sidewalk missionary here in Charlotte forthe past nine and a half years and1300:01:07.400 --> 00:01:11.840I'm here with Daniel Parks. Daniel, go ahead and tell us who you1400:01:11.879 --> 00:01:15.799are. So I am Daniel Parks. Serve as the West Coast Regional Shepherd1500:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.840for the efforts of love life onthe West Coast, all the way from1600:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.959Washington state down to southern California anda lot of places in between. And1700:01:25.040 --> 00:01:27.920I've been involved in Sibwalk Ministry sincetwo thousand and five, so maybe a1800:01:27.959 --> 00:01:33.000little over fifteen year years, mainlyhere in Charlotte, but I've been at1900:01:33.040 --> 00:01:38.280abortion centers across the nation helping outwith sidewalk ministry there. So yeah,2000:01:38.319 --> 00:01:41.359we think we have something we canteach you guys and yeah, I'm sure2100:01:41.400 --> 00:01:42.680some things we can learn from youguys as well, that's for sure.2200:01:42.799 --> 00:01:46.719Yeah, we've got a lot ofexperience. We've done a lot of things2300:01:46.719 --> 00:01:52.079wrong, we've done some things rightand and we have a lot of sidewalk2400:01:52.159 --> 00:01:57.400counselors and missionaries who contact us anddon't tell us their needs and the things2500:01:57.400 --> 00:02:01.239that they wish that we would talkabout. And one of almost all of2600:02:01.280 --> 00:02:07.120our podcast come out of that kindof a situation where someone has contacted us2700:02:07.159 --> 00:02:09.800and said, hey, this isa situation I faced. I didn't quite2800:02:09.879 --> 00:02:15.599know how to handle it. Maybeyou guys could offer some ideas. And2900:02:15.639 --> 00:02:20.039that is how this one that we'regoing to talk about today evolved. Is3000:02:20.080 --> 00:02:25.159We had a missionary contact us andsay that she had a Hispanic woman,3100:02:25.199 --> 00:02:30.719I believe, stopped for her anddidn't speak Spanish herself, didn't have a3200:02:30.759 --> 00:02:35.520translator available and just wondered what doyou do? Yeah, in that situation,3300:02:35.560 --> 00:02:39.360because it does happen. Yeah,absolutely, I've dealt with that frequently.3400:02:39.879 --> 00:02:44.039So we had a, I think, a lot of ideas. I've3500:02:44.080 --> 00:02:50.319got a lot of ideas personally fromhow I have dealt with that situation.3600:02:51.080 --> 00:02:55.479It's always a good idea to knowif there is a large other than English3700:02:55.479 --> 00:03:00.520speaking population in your area and,as best as you can find out,3800:03:00.680 --> 00:03:04.960is there someone in your area thatyou can use as a translator? For3900:03:05.000 --> 00:03:08.800sure, that's the the ideal,but it's the ideal is to learn the4000:03:08.840 --> 00:03:14.520language yourself. Well, Daniel,I I actually am. I think I've4100:03:14.560 --> 00:03:17.919mentioned this on a few podcasts.There is such a large Hispanic population here4200:03:19.039 --> 00:03:24.000and we have so many Hispanic womenshowing up for an abortion that I decided4300:03:24.199 --> 00:03:32.520I am going to learn Spanish andI am currently number one in my am4400:03:32.520 --> 00:03:40.560I duo Lingo League for for peoplelearning this this language. It's it's it's4500:03:40.599 --> 00:03:44.800an honor to be number one.Yeah, but so I am. I'm4600:03:44.879 --> 00:03:50.120learning Spanish and slowly, very slowly, quick maybe heaven. The article I'm4700:03:50.319 --> 00:03:53.719havensitive if I mentioned this. Ithink I do. But the do lingo.4800:03:53.840 --> 00:03:58.319Think duo lingo. I will tellyou, I will warn you.4900:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.319It's liberal, okay, in learninga language. So the trying to indoctrinate5000:04:01.360 --> 00:04:05.719you with or from us not thoughI have not seen pro abortion philosophy,5100:04:05.759 --> 00:04:13.080I definitely have seen pro like todaddy's and two Mommy's philosophy, and there5200:04:13.080 --> 00:04:16.279are often two husbands raising a son. And I'm learning how to how to5300:04:16.279 --> 00:04:20.399talk about that in Spanish. Okay, so I almost stopped doing it because5400:04:20.480 --> 00:04:27.680that is not my I don't believethat when you're learning a foreign language that5500:04:27.720 --> 00:04:32.000they should be indoctrinating you in aworld view that I don't believe as biblical.5600:04:32.199 --> 00:04:39.959Duolingo does have those kinds of statements. However, it is by far5700:04:40.040 --> 00:04:46.240the best foreign language learning APP orwhatever program that I have found, and5800:04:46.360 --> 00:04:53.160I am learning. I have counseledwomen in broken Spanish since starting the duolingo5900:04:53.240 --> 00:04:58.160program I have had people choose life. When I have not had a translator,6000:04:58.360 --> 00:05:00.759I use a variety of methods,which we're going to get into.6100:05:00.879 --> 00:05:05.560Yeah, that I cause money andit's free. Now it's totally free.6200:05:05.680 --> 00:05:09.959You can learn a foreign language.They say in fifteen minutes a day.6300:05:10.160 --> 00:05:15.040I will a lot of my sparetime goes into this, this foreign language6400:05:15.120 --> 00:05:18.920learning on dual lingo, because Iam committed to learning Spanish so that I6500:05:18.959 --> 00:05:23.720can speak with the women that cometo the abortion center. Yeah, so6600:05:23.800 --> 00:05:27.720I'll often do an hour, sometimeseven two hours a day, but they6700:05:27.720 --> 00:05:30.560say in fifteen minutes that you canlearn the language. So it's dual lingo.6800:05:30.959 --> 00:05:35.199It's a free APP. There isa paid version where you can it6900:05:35.680 --> 00:05:40.560is better, but it's not betterin terms of the learning. It's better7000:05:40.560 --> 00:05:44.800in that you can go longer inthe free APP. You if you make7100:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.519five mistakes, you're done for theday. They won't allow you to continue7200:05:47.639 --> 00:05:50.519on that day, and there aretimes when I make those five mistakes within7300:05:50.600 --> 00:05:54.319the first, okay, five minutes. What is it? It's like giving7400:05:54.319 --> 00:05:57.680you phrases and you have to repeatthem or so it's really good. They7500:05:57.759 --> 00:06:01.399tell stories so that your actually listeningto the language. You repeat, so7600:06:01.439 --> 00:06:05.600that you're learning to speak the language, and then they word by word,7700:06:05.600 --> 00:06:13.600giving you the the words, theverbs. So it's it's a very comprehensive7800:06:13.920 --> 00:06:17.199approach. Lots of pictures, lotsof reinforcements. Do will lingo as this7900:06:17.279 --> 00:06:23.199cute little character and he'll come onthe screen and say great job, okay,8000:06:23.240 --> 00:06:26.879and he does a little dance.Yeah, so, so really like8100:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.759me, it's pause. have togive a little part of your soul,8200:06:29.879 --> 00:06:33.319right, okay, yeah, no, that's cool. I wrestled with that,8300:06:33.600 --> 00:06:39.439I will say I wrestled with that, but I decided that, you8400:06:39.480 --> 00:06:43.000know, I I was will usethe Devil's tool against him, like a8500:06:43.160 --> 00:06:47.120cool lingo. Knew that you're learningSpanish to lead people to Jesus and to8600:06:47.160 --> 00:06:50.680help people right choose life for theirbabies. They probably wouldn't be very happy8700:06:50.680 --> 00:06:54.439with it. That's right, theyprobably would not. So let's not.8800:06:54.519 --> 00:06:57.560Let do a lingo now, becauseI really like it. I know now8900:06:57.879 --> 00:07:02.639listen this podcast, but anyway.So if you can't learn a full language,9000:07:02.720 --> 00:07:09.439number one tip consider learning key phrasesin the language groups that you often9100:07:09.519 --> 00:07:14.480see. Yeah, don't abort that'sa word. No ABORTO. It's easy9200:07:14.480 --> 00:07:19.079in Spanish. No ABORTO. Yourbaby is precious to God. So Baby9300:07:19.279 --> 00:07:25.279Espresciosa, because is in Spanish,but you may not. I in generally,9400:07:25.360 --> 00:07:28.519I think in the United States thatis going to be the predominant language.9500:07:28.560 --> 00:07:30.399But I'm not going to say inevery free area. Maybe your area9600:07:30.600 --> 00:07:36.439there's there's someone else or some otherlanguage that that is more spoken. But9700:07:36.600 --> 00:07:42.720what we have here is we've compileda cheat sheet in Spanish. I'm not9800:07:42.720 --> 00:07:45.800sure it's still in our GIG bag, it should be, and we put9900:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.959the top phrases. So think aboutwhat are the things you say most often10000:07:49.000 --> 00:07:56.240in English? Use that translator.Google, Google has a google translate later10100:07:56.319 --> 00:08:01.160APP, but use a translator ora native speaker. Yeah, and do10200:08:01.279 --> 00:08:03.480we have that cheat sheet? Youknow, you said we have it locally10300:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.839in our GIG bags. It's ourbag with all of our sheets and things,10400:08:07.879 --> 00:08:11.600one liners, and that's where wehave our literature that our teams pick10500:08:11.639 --> 00:08:13.399up and they take into the sidewalk. Yeah, do we have a file10600:08:13.399 --> 00:08:16.839that made? You can put inthe maybe we can put in the arch10700:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.480that we could on the art callit. Maybe send it out to our10800:08:18.560 --> 00:08:24.600national missionaries also, because, yeah, because we've already compiled one and and10900:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.199so if we'll try and get thatto you all. But but it really11000:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.600is a good idea to have acheat sheet of the main things you would11100:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.080need to say and just copy themain things that you say. Yeah,11200:08:35.080 --> 00:08:41.000to lead a woman to life.So, yeah, so key phrases using11300:08:41.120 --> 00:08:46.360the phone language APP. So Dua league lingo is is one that teaches11400:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.440you a language, but Google translateis is one of them. A lot11500:08:50.519 --> 00:08:56.039of people use that. I useone called instant translator. Yeah, or11600:08:56.159 --> 00:09:01.960it might be instant translate, andI reck command that. I tell the11700:09:01.039 --> 00:09:07.320story I once led a woman tothe Lord and choosing life for her baby11800:09:07.440 --> 00:09:11.240in Swahili. Yeah, okay,that's to me. That's my claim to11900:09:11.399 --> 00:09:15.799be. Yeah, I think he'spodcast about I think we might have and12000:09:15.799 --> 00:09:22.200and, and that was fully usinginstant translator. Yeah. So instant translator12100:09:22.240 --> 00:09:28.600also as a free and a paidpossibility, and I started off with the12200:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.639free APP. It is not sufficient, okay, because you can only use12300:09:33.679 --> 00:09:37.480maybe five or six interactions and itstops. Okay, and we're going to12400:09:37.519 --> 00:09:39.960have way more than that. Yeah, so I it was four hundred and12500:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.840ninety nine. I think maybe it'sfive hundred and ninety nine. It's worth12600:09:43.879 --> 00:09:48.320getting the paid APP. I reallylike it because they it speaks it and12700:09:48.360 --> 00:09:52.399writes it both languages, okay.And so the advantage of that is so12800:09:52.519 --> 00:09:58.480many times when you use a translatingAPP, Google, Google translate. Is12900:09:58.480 --> 00:10:03.120Is this true? Of that ithears something you didn't say right and that13000:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.240can be very dangerous, depending onwhat it heard. Sure it can actually13100:10:07.360 --> 00:10:11.279completely change it to the opposite.I've had that happen. You don't know13200:10:11.360 --> 00:10:16.559that if it hasn't written and outin both languages. Yeah, so I13300:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.919do strongly recommend instant translator, Ithink. Yes, the best I found13400:10:22.039 --> 00:10:26.000and the pay DAPP. Yeah,I've used Google translator or Google translate.13500:10:26.720 --> 00:10:33.799Actually helped a up will choose lifeusing that. So maybe saved yeah,13600:10:33.000 --> 00:10:37.759just using the Google translate APP.Yeah, it's pretty cool because it'll even13700:10:37.799 --> 00:10:41.840translate. I'm sure the instant translateat that you're talking about. Maybe it13800:10:41.840 --> 00:10:46.799does the same thing that you canactually do use the camera and you can13900:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.559point the camera toward text and youdon't own the screen change the text to14000:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.879whatever language you choose. It's kindof creepy and we think that instant translate14100:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.440does that. But that, butthat's really good. Also, what I14200:10:58.480 --> 00:11:01.360discovered the last time I did this. The last time I counseled a Hispanic14300:11:01.360 --> 00:11:07.840woman using instant translator because she didn'tspeak a word of English and she's in14400:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.440a country that speaks English. Sheknew about translation APPs. She had her14500:11:11.600 --> 00:11:15.879own, yeah, and pulled itup on her phone because she was familiar14600:11:15.919 --> 00:11:20.720with it. So each of ushad our own phone using our own translating14700:11:20.720 --> 00:11:24.440APP and we had a great conversation. She chose life. It was really14800:11:24.519 --> 00:11:30.480useful. The wonderful thing about thisyou may all think it's Oh dear,14900:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.080someone's coming. They don't speak English. What do I do? It is15000:11:33.120 --> 00:11:41.000a actually an advantage because in ourfacility the pro abortion crowd comes streaming over15100:11:41.320 --> 00:11:45.799to tell them all kinds of liesabout us and try and talk them into15200:11:45.840 --> 00:11:48.600going in. Yeah, but veryfew of them speak Spanish, right,15300:11:48.720 --> 00:11:54.879or whatever the language is, andso they cannot, you know, the15400:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.399sabotage. Yeah, the only standkind of think this person is just a15500:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.360whack job. They just come overscreen and likely it is. It has15600:12:01.399 --> 00:12:07.720been to our benefit because I've gotthe APP open and she's already established,15700:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.440you know, trusting me a littlebit using that APP. So the other15800:12:11.519 --> 00:12:16.600advantage, which you may not thinkabout, but I thought about after the15900:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.000last conversation, because it was successful. Yeah, not that I did everything16000:12:20.080 --> 00:12:24.960right. I'm sure, I didn't, and you can be unsuccessful and do16100:12:26.039 --> 00:12:28.120everything right. Right. So Iwant to make sure I make that point.16200:12:28.159 --> 00:12:31.480But it did end well, thelast one, and I've got that16300:12:31.519 --> 00:12:39.960whole conversation there. Yeah, writtennow recorded. What a great training tool,16400:12:39.039 --> 00:12:43.919right. Yeah, that could be. Or just for yourself if it16500:12:43.919 --> 00:12:48.960went south and you are thinking why, you can review what you've done and16600:12:48.000 --> 00:12:52.720you can learn from it. Yeah, so there's that. There's that advantage16700:12:52.759 --> 00:12:58.720of the APPS. Yeah. Sowe have pamphlets also available in different languages.16800:12:58.879 --> 00:13:03.159Yeah, that's another thing that Ithink every place should have. Yeah.16900:13:03.159 --> 00:13:07.759Well, currently we have our hopeis here pamphlet, the one that17000:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.360we hand out as people are goinginto the abortion center, in English and17100:13:11.440 --> 00:13:13.159in Spanish. Right, that's that'sthe only two languages we have an in.17200:13:13.440 --> 00:13:18.080Right. We have a post abortivebrochure that we hand out for those17300:13:18.080 --> 00:13:22.360who've had an abortion. That currentlynow is just in English, but it's17400:13:22.399 --> 00:13:26.600being worked on to be in Spanish. Yeah, I know that. If17500:13:26.639 --> 00:13:28.320we have if you're in a city, if you're in a love life city,17600:13:28.360 --> 00:13:35.000and you're seeing being maybe a consolidatedgroup of people from another language,17700:13:35.039 --> 00:13:39.360maybe other than Spanish or English,we'd certainly be more than willing to look17800:13:39.399 --> 00:13:45.320into get in a pamphlet that aversion of that in whatever language you think17900:13:45.360 --> 00:13:48.639for sure. Yeah, but there'sother things out there too, beyond just18000:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.120our literature. If you're not ina love life city or whatever, there's18100:13:54.159 --> 00:13:56.559resources out there. Of course,there's Gospel tracks and all kinds of languages18200:13:56.679 --> 00:14:01.679as well, and those are importantto have. I'm not sure, but18300:14:01.720 --> 00:14:07.679I would guess Ray Comfort he hasa great little tract. It's like life18400:14:07.679 --> 00:14:09.799in the womb or something like that. It talks about the Babies Development and18500:14:09.879 --> 00:14:15.519Shas the Gospel and I'm sure hehas it in Spanish. I haven't looked,18600:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.159but he has a lot of ittry, I guess, in Spanish18700:14:18.159 --> 00:14:22.399and maybe another language as well.So that's something to look into. The18800:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.840tidy tiny hands that hold my heart, those brochures of those booklets that we've18900:14:26.960 --> 00:14:30.720used in the past, they havethose in Spanish. So I think you19000:14:30.720 --> 00:14:35.399can go to tiny hands book dotcomor Dot Org, something like that.19100:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.960You can probably just google search itand they have it in English and in19200:14:39.960 --> 00:14:45.320Spanish. So there's some options therefor that. Yeah, many times I19300:14:45.320 --> 00:14:50.159will call someone that I know speakSpanish as again the dominant right, but19400:14:50.200 --> 00:14:54.080we have other people that speak otherlanguages that are on a list, and19500:14:54.120 --> 00:14:58.320that's kind of the next, Ithink, important thing for you to do19600:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.360as leg work prior to being onthe sidewalk, if you can collect the19700:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.679names and phones of people, maybefriends, people in your church, who19800:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.639speak a different language and they wouldbe willing to translate by phone. Right.19900:15:09.679 --> 00:15:13.679So I've put Connie, is ourSpanish speaking translator, one of them.20000:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.879I'll put her, I'll call her. She almost always is available and20100:15:16.919 --> 00:15:22.559we'll pick up and I'll tell hervery quickly I've got a mom on board20200:15:22.639 --> 00:15:28.240the mobile oat sound unit right nowwith me and we need a Spanish translator.20300:15:28.279 --> 00:15:31.639I'm going to put you on speakerphone. Can you just talk with20400:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.360her now? Connie is also atrained counselor so I don't usually even have20500:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.240to say anything, at least throughpart of it. During the ultrasound I20600:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.879will tell Connie what we're seeing andwhat to be saying, but during just20700:15:43.960 --> 00:15:48.000sharing the gospel or sharing our resources, Connie's trained and she will say it.20800:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.559But we have had times, justthis Saturday, I think this past20900:15:50.600 --> 00:15:56.120Saturday, a Spanish speaking person thatwas at our love life March came running21000:15:56.159 --> 00:16:00.600over to help and she didn't knowwhat to say. She was not a21100:16:00.639 --> 00:16:04.200counselor, but Courtney, your wife, and the counselor, our counselor,21200:16:04.360 --> 00:16:10.320told her what to say and shewas able to translate. But you can21300:16:10.360 --> 00:16:14.559do it by phone. Remember thatthat you could put them on speaker phone21400:16:14.600 --> 00:16:18.480and that has been very effective.Of Again, we've led women to the21500:16:18.519 --> 00:16:21.759Lord, we've had women choose life. Yeah, just by having on the21600:16:21.759 --> 00:16:26.440speaker phone someone who speaks whatever thatlanguage is. And if that someone maybe21700:16:26.440 --> 00:16:32.120you have a counselor that comes outto the sidewalk on a regular basis that21800:16:32.200 --> 00:16:37.480would also be willing to be oncall for these situations. Then you essentially21900:16:37.600 --> 00:16:41.399would just be able to hand thephone or have them on speaker phone.22000:16:41.399 --> 00:16:45.679You don't necessarily have to directly talkand they translate. If they know how22100:16:45.679 --> 00:16:48.240to talk to a woman at anabortion center, just get them on the22200:16:48.240 --> 00:16:52.399speaker phone and let them take over. Yeah, you know, it's it.22300:16:52.440 --> 00:16:56.519That's good point and something a littleaside that I've learned doing this is,22400:16:56.559 --> 00:17:02.240even though I don't know what thetranslators saying, when I maybe I'm22500:17:02.279 --> 00:17:06.759holding the phone for them. Ilook straight into the eyes of the woman22600:17:07.720 --> 00:17:14.599and nod and smile and act asthough it's me speaking to her. Yeah,22700:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.119because she has to trust me.I'm the person that's in front of22800:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.119her and and so I may notunderstand a single word, but I'm acting22900:17:22.160 --> 00:17:25.160like I can and nodding and and, you know, I hope I'm not23000:17:25.279 --> 00:17:27.759in two good things. I thinkI am, but I think that's important23100:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.759to remember to keep your eyes onthe woman, even if it's not you23200:17:32.000 --> 00:17:37.920speaking, so that she's feeling thatrelationship develop. Yeah, and then another23300:17:38.119 --> 00:17:42.119kind of pointer tip that you havehere in this article, yeah, is23400:17:42.160 --> 00:17:47.119announcing the need at prayer walks.Our prayer walks for a lot of our23500:17:47.160 --> 00:17:51.240cities are going on on a weeklybasis, so there's different churches, different23600:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.400people that are coming out and soputting out there at the end of the23700:17:53.400 --> 00:17:57.359prayer walk we give a call toconnect and one of those connection pieces is23800:17:57.440 --> 00:18:02.079sidewalk outreach. We need people willout here on the sidewalks and you can23900:18:02.119 --> 00:18:06.279get specific, though. We're seeinga lot of people that speak Swahili.24000:18:06.480 --> 00:18:08.559Maybe she was the only one,but right you never know. I don't24100:18:08.599 --> 00:18:12.359we've seen a lot of people hereactually that speak Nepali. I don't know24200:18:12.519 --> 00:18:17.279what's the language exactly. Okay,I don't know. Time past have yeah,24300:18:17.319 --> 00:18:21.319sure, and there's actually in apoly church in the Charlotte area that24400:18:21.359 --> 00:18:22.359we have a connection with, sowe can get someone on the phone.24500:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.480Yeah, actually, Russian. Iactually have seen and we do have a24600:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.480couple of people that do speak Russian. Yeah, that are on you know,24700:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.880I've got them on my phone.Yeah, so you can put that24800:18:33.880 --> 00:18:36.359out there at the prayer walks andjust say, hey, we need people24900:18:36.400 --> 00:18:38.039out here on the sidewalk. Theycan speak Spanish, or we need people25000:18:38.039 --> 00:18:41.160that are willing to be on call. So that's that's a need you can25100:18:41.200 --> 00:18:45.759put out there right for people.Yeah, yeah, this is a really25200:18:45.759 --> 00:18:49.000important one. The next point thatI raised in the article be aware that25300:18:49.039 --> 00:18:53.880immigration status can affect the decision toabort. Okay, kind of a bit25400:18:53.920 --> 00:18:59.440of an aside, because it's notlike I'm talking specifically about speaking their language,25500:18:59.519 --> 00:19:04.000right, but if you have II tell you I see this all25600:19:04.039 --> 00:19:08.720the time, a Hispanic woman whois crying. She agrees with everything I25700:19:08.799 --> 00:19:15.960say through the translator and she's stillsaying that she has to abort, have25800:19:15.160 --> 00:19:19.440in the back of your mind thatthe reason might be that she is in25900:19:19.480 --> 00:19:27.440this country undocumented and she's terrified thatwe will report her to the authorities and26000:19:27.480 --> 00:19:33.400that she doesn't have health care orwhatever because she can't get it because she's26100:19:33.480 --> 00:19:41.599undocumented. Knowing that I have approachedthis issue very carefully, I don't even26200:19:41.599 --> 00:19:45.160want to tell her I suspect that, because that might make her even more26300:19:45.640 --> 00:19:49.119frightened, yeah, and drive herinto a board. So I will say26400:19:49.160 --> 00:19:56.640something along the lines of if youfall through the insurance cracks or for whatever26500:19:56.680 --> 00:20:03.799reason, you are concerned that youwill not get healthcare or or help,26600:20:03.839 --> 00:20:12.799please know that we we will helpyou no matter what, no questions asked,26700:20:12.960 --> 00:20:19.480and particularly we have an our area, a doctor who will see people26800:20:19.480 --> 00:20:25.000for free when they fall through thehealth insurance yeah, at which is usually26900:20:25.000 --> 00:20:30.039means because they're indocumented. Yeah,if not every area may have that right,27000:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.480but if you can try to findthat, it's valuable because it is,27100:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.519I would say, in many cases, one of the major reasons that27200:20:37.559 --> 00:20:45.480a Hispanic woman is here choosing toabort. She's here undocumented and it's afraid27300:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.720she's going to be reported. Andsometimes I will say, we don't care27400:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.839whether you're here legally or illegally,we just care that we want to help27500:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.039your baby, right. Yeah,so, yeah, it's good. That's27600:20:56.039 --> 00:21:00.200good to be aware of that,for sure. Right. The next thing27700:21:00.200 --> 00:21:03.279that you have here in the articles, I think is really important, is27800:21:03.319 --> 00:21:06.799try to know the culture. Yeah, do the best you can. Now,27900:21:06.839 --> 00:21:11.359this, I think this does speakto the language barrier. Right,28000:21:11.599 --> 00:21:15.519they say people don't care how muchyou know until they know how much you28100:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.759care. Yeah, people don't careif you know their language if they don't28200:21:18.799 --> 00:21:22.839think that you care about them.In a way, to show people you28300:21:22.920 --> 00:21:27.680care about them is being sim sensitiveto their culture and, yeah, understanding28400:21:27.759 --> 00:21:33.119their culture. There's some differences.They were talking about people that are Spanish28500:21:33.319 --> 00:21:37.839speaking. Yeah, the culture isdifferent, as a matter of fact,28600:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.920with most cultures in the Spanish speakingworld. Yeah, Hispanic Culture, whatever28700:21:41.920 --> 00:21:47.519you want to call it, isfamily oriented. It is so speaking to28800:21:47.680 --> 00:21:52.759those situations, speaking to family situations. Maybe the situation is such that the28900:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.799young lady is afraid that her parentsare going to find out she's pregnant outside29000:21:56.799 --> 00:22:00.680of marriage. mean, that's acrossthe board pretty well, a concern for29100:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.200no matter what culture you're from,but in particular in this culture, we29200:22:03.240 --> 00:22:08.559can kind of speak to that,speak to that family dynamic and really speak29300:22:08.599 --> 00:22:11.480to the fact that that baby ispart of her family. So that's just29400:22:11.559 --> 00:22:15.559one example. Yeah, if youhave others, I do have a couple29500:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.519of others in where I was goingwith this, but but one of them29600:22:18.599 --> 00:22:23.039speaking about Hispanic groups. They they'reusually the easiest to convince, not to29700:22:23.079 --> 00:22:27.039a board, and that's, Ithink, part of what you said.29800:22:27.079 --> 00:22:32.119And also because they believe in God. Overwhelmingly they do believe in God.29900:22:32.160 --> 00:22:37.559They I may not agree with howthey their beliefs in totality, but when30000:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.039they believe in God, just sayingwhat would God have you do to a30100:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.880Hispanic woman often brings tears because theyknow what God would have them do.30200:22:45.319 --> 00:22:49.119The other culture, though, andI think we may have talked about this30300:22:49.680 --> 00:22:55.119in another podcast, but I willreiterate it because I think it's important,30400:22:55.160 --> 00:22:57.759one of the hardest people groups,I would say, to convince. Don't30500:22:57.759 --> 00:23:03.039aboard our people from India. Yeah, is is kind of been my experience.30600:23:03.279 --> 00:23:06.319Yeah, and I don't want tostereotype people. People it's not that's30700:23:06.319 --> 00:23:11.759not always the case, but generallythat is my experience and we have a30800:23:11.759 --> 00:23:15.119counselor whose family is from India.I think she herself may even have been30900:23:15.119 --> 00:23:21.440born in India, but she certainlyknew the culture and she said they don't31000:23:21.480 --> 00:23:26.400believe it's a baby until it takesits first breath. Yeah, and therefore31100:23:26.440 --> 00:23:30.119a lot of our talking points arenot going to work with with people that31200:23:30.319 --> 00:23:37.720believe that. But she said theyare very family oriented and they they will31300:23:37.759 --> 00:23:42.720protect their family at all costs.They will protect their elders at all cause31400:23:42.759 --> 00:23:48.359they'll bring in their MOMS and theirdad's when when they need more care,31500:23:48.480 --> 00:23:52.720as opposed to sending them to anursing home. Very family focus. So31600:23:52.759 --> 00:23:57.119she said focus on that. Sotalking about the baby as their son or31700:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.839daughter, a member of your familyonly. I now will say that every31800:24:00.880 --> 00:24:06.559single time I see well, oftenwith with all people groups, but especially31900:24:06.559 --> 00:24:11.400with with people from India or wholook Indian. Yeah, this is a32000:24:11.440 --> 00:24:14.240member of your family, this isyour son or your daughter, and you32100:24:14.279 --> 00:24:18.880are charged to protect your son oryour daughter. That carries more weight for32200:24:19.039 --> 00:24:25.119them because then it's in the termsof their culture, you protect family and32300:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.559you love family. Yeah, sothose are the two that I brought out32400:24:27.559 --> 00:24:32.519in the article. I'm sure theremight be other like people, groups,32500:24:32.519 --> 00:24:37.000culture, cultural groups that if you, if you know, you see a32600:24:37.039 --> 00:24:42.119lot of that particular group, findout about what they believe about babies,32700:24:42.160 --> 00:24:45.759the unborn child and their culture,and those can help you in knowing how32800:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.960to specifically speak to them. Yeah, absolutely, that's good. That's good.32900:24:51.039 --> 00:24:52.920Yeah, well, I guess we'llwrap up with our last point here.33000:24:53.000 --> 00:24:56.720Yeah, and that's something we talkabout oftentimes. Yep, and that's33100:24:56.759 --> 00:25:03.119conveying compassion, and it's conveying compassionthrough the tone of your voice and the33200:25:03.119 --> 00:25:06.319look on your face like you wantto connect with them, let them see33300:25:06.440 --> 00:25:08.839compassion. Yeah, you guys haveheard me say it often is to suffer33400:25:08.839 --> 00:25:15.160with them. Calm is with andpassion is suffering. So to suffer with33500:25:15.200 --> 00:25:21.200them, even though you're not exactlyunderstanding the whole, the totality the situation,33600:25:21.400 --> 00:25:25.039even using a translator app there's somethings that are going to be missed.33700:25:25.079 --> 00:25:26.599You can, you can get thegeneral idea of what's going on in33800:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.720their situation, but you're going toprobably miss some things. But you know33900:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.720that there's some struggle there, especiallywith their you know when they're crying in34000:25:34.720 --> 00:25:40.839front of you and they're just there'sfear, there's anxiety going on. We34100:25:40.880 --> 00:25:45.039want to identify with that. Yeah, and make sure our tone. What34200:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.880you don't want to do is dothe idiotic thing that often times we do34300:25:49.079 --> 00:25:55.920when people don't understand our language,is we get louder. Don't you understand?34400:25:56.200 --> 00:26:00.720You know, we talk slower andlouder like somehow, somebody that doesn't34500:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.200understand our language at all, ifwe just say it's slower and louder,34600:26:03.279 --> 00:26:07.839somehow they're going to understand us.Right, like, don't do that,34700:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.480because that's that's not going to conveycompassion and a connection with that person in34800:26:11.519 --> 00:26:17.559identification with their struggles. Slow down, you know, calm down. You're34900:26:17.599 --> 00:26:19.920excited because somebody stopped and talked withyou. You're trying to fumble and get35000:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.680your translator APP out or get somebodyon the phone. It's calm down,35100:26:25.240 --> 00:26:29.000trust the Holy Spirit to move throughyou. Right. I think that's that's35200:26:29.000 --> 00:26:33.440your very last point right this article, is trusting the Holy Spirit. Like35300:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.839God. God does miraculous things.Yeah, you believe he does or not?35400:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.480God can give you in the momentthe words to say you can speak35500:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.359in a supernatural language like God stilldoes that stuff. There was a story35600:26:45.359 --> 00:26:49.480I heard a guy in Florida thatreaches out at the abortion center there that35700:26:49.519 --> 00:26:56.000God supernaturally gave him the ability tounderstand the language that he didn't previously understand.35800:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.119So trust God to do that.That's not going to be the normative35900:26:59.200 --> 00:27:04.640experience way, but God can dothat. But also trust that the Lord36000:27:04.720 --> 00:27:10.160can use just the look on yourface, that the Lord can use just36100:27:10.359 --> 00:27:14.400the fact that you're willing to bethere and talk with them and connect them36200:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.240with somebody does speak their language orwhatever. Just trust that the Lord can36300:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.319use that to move their hearts towardlife, toward him. Even the you36400:27:22.359 --> 00:27:26.039know, the compassion and sorrow onyour face as you say the the one36500:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.000phrase. Maybe you know, NOABorto. I'm remembering a specific situation where36600:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.759that's what I did, Noah Borto, and I open the pamphlet to the36700:27:33.799 --> 00:27:38.000aborted baby and pointed to it,because we have a picture of a an36800:27:38.000 --> 00:27:42.640aborted child, and the woman againstarted crying. She actually went in,36900:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.079but she came out and chose life. Yeah, so the Holy Spirit will37000:27:47.079 --> 00:27:51.359bring things to your heart and mind. The Holy Spirit might also bring miraculously37100:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.920someone who speaks that language and thatmoment that has happened to us. I37200:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.839can so many times. Yeah,so many times. So I hope those37300:27:57.880 --> 00:28:03.960are all tips that will help peopleknow that we can do this even when37400:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.480the people don't speak the language thatwe speak. Yeah, yeah, it's37500:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.640pretty amazing what the Lord will dowhen make ourselves available. And just want37600:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.920you guys know that we appreciate youwho are serving out on the sidewalks,37700:28:15.039 --> 00:28:19.599making yourself available to be a mouthpiecefor the Lord. Just believe and trust37800:28:19.680 --> 00:28:23.000that the Lord will help you overcomethe language barriers and hopefully these are some37900:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.920tips that will help you do that. I would encourage you to reach out38000:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.279us. You can reach out tome, Daniel, I love life dot38100:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.119Org. You reach her, Vicki, I love life dot Org. We'd38200:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.440love to hear from you. Maybehave some questions or some comments to make38300:28:34.480 --> 00:28:37.920about this episode or other episodes.So, yeah, please reach out.38400:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.359Please also share this podcast episode withothers that you think it would be a38500:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.920blessing to leave us a review,if you can find out how to do38600:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.119that. 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