Not All Stories Turn Out Great

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.230 Lord. I welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. As you know, 3 00:00:10.349 --> 00:00:13.109 we like to share from time to time the stories that happen on the 4 00:00:13.150 --> 00:00:16.350 sidewalk. A lot of times we share good stories, but in this podcast 5 00:00:16.390 --> 00:00:18.910 we're going to talk about some of those stories that didn't turn out so good. 6 00:00:19.230 --> 00:00:35.810 Stay with us, I felt show passis touch your welcome to the Gospel 7 00:00:35.850 --> 00:00:40.609 Center pro life podcast. We appreciate you guys listening. We hope this podcast 8 00:00:41.369 --> 00:00:44.250 episode will be a blessing to you guys. We hope our previous episodes have 9 00:00:44.329 --> 00:00:47.649 been a blessing. We covered in the last two episodes the goodness of God. 10 00:00:47.850 --> 00:00:51.280 Yeah, in light of some of the difficult situations that we face and 11 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:54.920 quite possibly many of you guys that are listening face on a daily basis at 12 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:57.759 the abortion centers, or weekly basis, however off when you're out there. 13 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:02.280 We hope that was an encouragement to you guys and not a discouragement. And 14 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:07.909 we got real in that podcast, or some of the stories, want story 15 00:01:07.909 --> 00:01:08.909 in particularly, that we shared, and we're going to get real in this 16 00:01:08.989 --> 00:01:12.629 podcast to yeah, we are. We're going to talk about how not all 17 00:01:12.870 --> 00:01:19.299 stories turn out good. We tend to share, and rightfully so, write 18 00:01:19.340 --> 00:01:22.579 the good stories that take place. Yeah, would encourage people. Yeah, 19 00:01:22.739 --> 00:01:29.859 people are encourage when a mom chooses life and this awesome story that really turns 20 00:01:29.900 --> 00:01:33.689 out awesome and God is glorified through it. And we want to encourage people 21 00:01:34.129 --> 00:01:37.049 and we want our counselors to know that their work is not in vain. 22 00:01:37.129 --> 00:01:41.969 There are so there's definitely fruit, yeah, from all of their toil. 23 00:01:42.049 --> 00:01:46.090 Yeah, I want to encourage people in social media to get involved in their 24 00:01:46.170 --> 00:01:49.400 city. Hey, God's doing something here in Charlotte. He wants to do 25 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.640 it in your city. Here's what he can do if you get on board. 26 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:57.359 But I've discovered that sometimes what we mean for encouragement can actually be discouraging 27 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:01.189 to people. Yeah, and so we don't mean to bring something discouraging order 28 00:02:01.269 --> 00:02:05.150 to encourage you, but we do want to kind of bring some balance to 29 00:02:05.230 --> 00:02:09.030 it and just let people know and understand that not all the situations that we 30 00:02:09.270 --> 00:02:14.590 deal with actually turn out good. We've had situations, and we've shared some 31 00:02:14.669 --> 00:02:17.740 of those, where we've had a mom that we've poured into, I mean 32 00:02:17.780 --> 00:02:21.740 given her every reason to choose life and she ends up going into the abortion 33 00:02:21.780 --> 00:02:23.659 center, right. So we're going to talk about that. Yeah, again, 34 00:02:23.699 --> 00:02:28.139 not to discourage you guys that are listening, to encourage you that even 35 00:02:28.139 --> 00:02:30.889 in spite of that, God is good, like our last two episodes, 36 00:02:30.449 --> 00:02:35.490 and Jesus is still doing stuff, his words still going forth, and we've 37 00:02:35.490 --> 00:02:38.930 always said the victory is in obedience. Right, it's not just in baby 38 00:02:38.050 --> 00:02:42.569 saved or soul saved, but it's in obeying God. Yeah, and then 39 00:02:42.650 --> 00:02:46.240 babies are saved and souls are saved out of our obedience to God. But 40 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:49.400 before we jump into that, I wanted to have a little bit of fun. 41 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.479 Oh, okay, that's always fine. Now, you guys who've been 42 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:54.039 listening for a while, maybe you haven't seen this. Some of you guys 43 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:57.879 that are new, maybe you as you were looking through Itunes, and I 44 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.509 think I've shared this a few times on our episodes. As we started out, 45 00:03:00.550 --> 00:03:05.389 just encouraging people to leave reviews. Is We've gotten trolled by some of 46 00:03:05.469 --> 00:03:10.229 our pro abortion opposition. We've got about sixteen hundred reviews on. That's past 47 00:03:10.870 --> 00:03:15.099 for a podcast like ours. Yeah, it's just two people pretty much with 48 00:03:15.300 --> 00:03:20.379 some microphones, right, and put a whole lot of production and trained broadcast 49 00:03:20.500 --> 00:03:23.819 professionals. Yeah, to one sixteen hundred reviews, especially when we're talking from 50 00:03:24.379 --> 00:03:29.449 Gospel Center pro life perspective. So it's kind of a neat niche sort of 51 00:03:30.490 --> 00:03:32.849 topic. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. The only thing is, as Thou 52 00:03:32.969 --> 00:03:37.849 sixteen hundred reviews, like one thou six hundred and seventy something or so. 53 00:03:38.530 --> 00:03:43.400 At this point, about ninety nine percent of them are bad. There there 54 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:47.120 one star reviews. Now I do well, I know for sure that the 55 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:52.560 way things work is the more interactions with a podcast, so bad reviews are 56 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:54.439 good reviews. It still pushes us up in the ranking. So those who 57 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:57.990 I guess want to hurt us are actually helping us. Yeah, I've had 58 00:03:57.990 --> 00:04:00.430 a lot more listeners and we praise God for that. So what they meant 59 00:04:00.469 --> 00:04:03.069 for evil? God used it, got it. God used it for good. 60 00:04:03.189 --> 00:04:05.949 So, just like our last couple episodes, God is good. But 61 00:04:06.069 --> 00:04:10.300 what I wanted to do let's have a little fun with some of these reviews, 62 00:04:10.340 --> 00:04:13.379 because some of them are just playing nasty and I'm not going to repeat 63 00:04:13.379 --> 00:04:15.379 what they said in the reviews, but some of them are just Dang funny 64 00:04:16.220 --> 00:04:20.579 and kind of encouraging in one sense and, you know, just like a 65 00:04:20.699 --> 00:04:24.290 good laugh. So maybe this would give some of you guys a good half 66 00:04:24.410 --> 00:04:27.490 and will will get Vicki's reaction to some of these, because you haven't read 67 00:04:27.529 --> 00:04:30.970 all of these, but these are some of the reviews on our podcasts on 68 00:04:31.089 --> 00:04:36.209 itunes. The title of this one is disrespectful and it's a Onestar review. 69 00:04:36.209 --> 00:04:40.600 All of these are going to be one star on star distress. Imagine making 70 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:46.040 people feel bad for a boarding babies. I couldn't be me heart. Well, 71 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:49.480 first and foremost, these are the pro choice people who say that it's 72 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:53.910 not a baby, right, it's a fetus, it's a blob of tissue 73 00:04:53.910 --> 00:04:57.670 or a clump of cells. Yeah, except sometimes they slip up and admit 74 00:04:57.790 --> 00:05:00.990 that it's a baby, and she does here. This is from Cool K 75 00:05:00.350 --> 00:05:04.990 thirty four. Okay, so imagine making people feel bad for a boarding babies. 76 00:05:05.029 --> 00:05:10.259 HMM, imagine that. Imagine, I can imagine. We get paid 77 00:05:10.259 --> 00:05:13.699 to do that, apparently, make people feel bad this. This is from 78 00:05:14.220 --> 00:05:19.420 mad dog six hundred and eighty nine, and it's titled Pro Choice is pro 79 00:05:19.819 --> 00:05:24.689 woman. Okay, never heard that one before. Okay, well, here 80 00:05:24.810 --> 00:05:28.610 she says in her review I'm assuming it's a woman, all right, although 81 00:05:28.610 --> 00:05:30.250 I should maybe assume her gender. Okay, I guess. Or Yeah, 82 00:05:30.250 --> 00:05:34.720 their gender. Abortion is not murder. First of all, a fetus is 83 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:40.120 not considered a human being and it's technically a parasite. Hang on to that 84 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.839 for a second, because I want to talk about that. Second of all, 85 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.279 even if a fetus were considered a human being, then abortion would still 86 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:51.870 be okay, since it is in the woman's body, because bodily integrity protects 87 00:05:51.990 --> 00:05:57.430 it. Okay, since this is a religious podcast, did you know that 88 00:05:57.550 --> 00:06:01.750 God stated that a baby is alive when it takes its first breath? Therefore, 89 00:06:01.949 --> 00:06:05.060 while in the womb, it's technically not alive. Therefore, abortion is 90 00:06:05.139 --> 00:06:10.339 okay by the Bible. WHOO, a lot of deductions the falling up for 91 00:06:10.500 --> 00:06:14.060 really he so I'll want to make a challenge. Yeah, I want to 92 00:06:14.100 --> 00:06:16.060 make a challenge because I made this challenge actually last Saturday was some of the 93 00:06:16.139 --> 00:06:19.170 pro pro choice people, because one of them told me this very thing. 94 00:06:19.290 --> 00:06:23.970 You know, the Bible teaches that it's not actually alive until it bring us 95 00:06:23.970 --> 00:06:26.649 first of breath. We actually did a podcast about that, so you guys 96 00:06:26.689 --> 00:06:29.769 can go back and listen to that. And so I asked him, this 97 00:06:30.050 --> 00:06:32.600 gentleman that told me he knew the Bible and he's raised on the Bible and 98 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.959 this I said, show me where it says in the Bible that it's not 99 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:40.920 a person until it takes his first breath. Right, of course he couldn't. 100 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.399 He brought out some he could some some liberal he could not. He 101 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:49.149 had some liberal scholar interpretation of some passage of scripture in the Old Testament. 102 00:06:49.230 --> 00:06:55.269 Okay, and so that's ridiculous. The Bible is clear that God knows us 103 00:06:55.269 --> 00:06:58.110 while we're in our mother's womb and all of that. But this point of 104 00:06:58.670 --> 00:07:01.139 it's technically a parasite. Yeah, technically. Now, what does the word 105 00:07:01.180 --> 00:07:06.779 technically mean to you? Technically? Well, I mean that there's like factual 106 00:07:06.860 --> 00:07:11.180 yeah, roof, you can into the technicalities of it. But yeah, 107 00:07:11.259 --> 00:07:15.970 actually, technically it's not a parasite. It's impossible for a creature to be 108 00:07:16.050 --> 00:07:23.089 a parasite of its own species, right, we know, just a parasite 109 00:07:23.129 --> 00:07:26.290 is always of a different species. That's a very good point. So that's 110 00:07:26.290 --> 00:07:30.720 IMPOL technically. You're correct to technically. I'm correct. Technically. Pro Choice 111 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:33.519 is pro woman or mad dog. Six hundred and eighty nine. Technically you're 112 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:36.600 incorrect. So so sorry to break that to you. Sorry, maybe you 113 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:40.720 would consider revising that one. Maybe, maybe go back and revise that. 114 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:45.470 Let's read another one. There's one that actually I'm not going to read. 115 00:07:45.470 --> 00:07:48.149 That's too long. But they're trying to quote a first Corinthians Thirteen. No 116 00:07:48.269 --> 00:07:53.589 temptation is overtaken youth and that which is common, a man goes on to 117 00:07:54.509 --> 00:07:57.550 from what I gather, we shouldn't judge people. All its other stuff, 118 00:07:57.589 --> 00:08:00.100 but whatever. Another one we've never heard. Yeah, we did a whole 119 00:08:00.100 --> 00:08:03.740 podcast about this. Now this is from Hockey Zach, Hockey Zack. Hockey 120 00:08:03.779 --> 00:08:09.019 Zach wrote no heart. This is the title. No heart. It's a 121 00:08:09.060 --> 00:08:13.569 one star review as well. It has a baby, little emoji of a 122 00:08:13.649 --> 00:08:18.970 baby, a hammer hitting that baby and then an angel baby. So wonder 123 00:08:18.050 --> 00:08:20.970 what they mean in there. Hockey Hockey Zach, are you implying that we 124 00:08:22.009 --> 00:08:24.449 should hit babies with hammers? Well, it seems to be consistent. At 125 00:08:24.490 --> 00:08:30.000 least we can appreciate the consistency. Yeah, yeah, and the baby turns 126 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:33.279 into an angel. So their theology needs some work. Theologically that's incorrect, 127 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:39.200 but practically it shows the spirit of the whole pro abortion. Yeah, persuasion 128 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:41.830 there. Right, I'll just read a few more these, just this, 129 00:08:41.070 --> 00:08:43.269 just for fun. This is a show you the spirit of these people, 130 00:08:43.269 --> 00:08:46.909 and some of you guys listen and you've already read some of these in your 131 00:08:46.990 --> 00:08:50.269 like shaking your head. So maybe this will encourage some of you guys who 132 00:08:50.350 --> 00:08:54.190 that are listening the like this podcast to leave us a five star review. 133 00:08:54.389 --> 00:08:56.860 Yeah, it would maybe help us out to bring our ranking up from one 134 00:08:58.100 --> 00:09:01.059 sixteen hundred and some reviews with one star to maybe sixteen hundred some reviews of 135 00:09:01.139 --> 00:09:05.700 two stars. Maybe. Agree, anything's possibly, things possible. So this 136 00:09:05.980 --> 00:09:11.809 is from pastel him Koa Tooga. Okay, that's their name, and it's 137 00:09:11.850 --> 00:09:16.409 titled Go Home, Vicky, oh me. Yeah, it's specifically targets me, 138 00:09:16.929 --> 00:09:22.690 specifically targets you, vigre. Some of these actually particularly a many of 139 00:09:22.769 --> 00:09:26.799 these actually particularly target you. And this is. This says, in her 140 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:30.720 review, or his review, whatever, I'll slurp up my dead baby like 141 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.679 a Jello shot. Oh, I know, what a vile individual. I 142 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.159 think that person called me. I'm serious, I'm a call yeah, about 143 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:41.509 this. Okay, yeah, they're just out of their mind. A little 144 00:09:41.509 --> 00:09:43.909 bit sick. That's a little bit more than a little bit. But wait 145 00:09:43.950 --> 00:09:46.549 a minute, okay, it's not a baby. I thought it's just a 146 00:09:46.629 --> 00:09:50.870 battle of tissue. Right. Some yeah, sometimes, when you lie, 147 00:09:50.549 --> 00:09:54.019 see, when you lie, here's a list of for everybody. When you 148 00:09:54.059 --> 00:09:56.379 lie, you have to remember what you previously said. But if you tell 149 00:09:56.419 --> 00:09:58.659 the truth, you want have to worry about remember, right. So if 150 00:09:58.659 --> 00:10:00.940 you lie and say it's not a baby, it's a Blob of tissue, 151 00:10:00.980 --> 00:10:05.419 yeah, and obviously that's not true. Now, then you have to remember 152 00:10:05.779 --> 00:10:09.129 that phrase every time. Blab of tissue, Blob of tissue, because slurping 153 00:10:09.169 --> 00:10:11.850 up a Blab of tissue would probably die. And I don't have a problem 154 00:10:11.889 --> 00:10:16.169 with that. Baby, I got a problem. Yeah, this is from 155 00:10:16.850 --> 00:10:18.090 but we don't. So why do I have to go home? Well, 156 00:10:18.330 --> 00:10:20.960 she didn't say. Oh yeah, so you just go home. That's it, 157 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:26.000 basically. This next one is from yummy fetus. Oh, there's a 158 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:31.840 lovely tile, these cannibalistic fetus eaters here, and this is Jello with a 159 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.149 less than and then a three, so it's like a Kissy kind of thing. 160 00:10:37.549 --> 00:10:41.070 Okay, this is the one story review as well. Honestly, I'd 161 00:10:41.110 --> 00:10:45.669 love to eat an aborted fetus like I sup for from intrusive thoughts. And 162 00:10:45.789 --> 00:10:48.509 it's my big it's my biggest one. It looks like a fond it can't 163 00:10:48.669 --> 00:10:54.379 decoration like there's realistic cakes. Maybe I should start a cake business selling hyper 164 00:10:54.460 --> 00:11:00.899 realistic fetus cakes and fulfill that dream. You wonder what these people have read 165 00:11:00.980 --> 00:11:05.210 or done in their life that gives them an imagination like that. Well, 166 00:11:05.250 --> 00:11:07.490 they're just bound in sin and they're wicked. And so you know, Jesus 167 00:11:07.529 --> 00:11:09.970 said from the from the depth of the heart, the mouth speaks. That's 168 00:11:11.009 --> 00:11:13.809 what's in these. It sounds like he and the person that told me to 169 00:11:13.929 --> 00:11:16.450 go home need to get together. Yeah, and very sitting they may be. 170 00:11:16.690 --> 00:11:20.360 Now this one, I have to tell you, okay, I actually 171 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.679 made me laugh, okay, and it's pretty funny and and so I wanted 172 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:30.320 to bless you with it as well. I can't. I can't pronounce their 173 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:31.720 name, start to the be or whatever. It's not a bad word, 174 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.350 but I just can't pronounce it's the bunch of letters. But okay, this 175 00:11:35.549 --> 00:11:39.549 is titled Killed My Grandma. Oh yeah, and this the one star review 176 00:11:39.549 --> 00:11:43.309 as well. Like all of them, I've read this podcast was so bad 177 00:11:43.470 --> 00:11:48.379 that it caused my granmall to go into anaphylactic shock and die of boredom. 178 00:11:48.419 --> 00:11:54.820 Chill. anyways, black lives matter and pro choice for life. Cat Emoji, 179 00:11:54.940 --> 00:12:00.299 Cat Emoji, painting your nails Emoji. It's this one killed, killed 180 00:12:00.340 --> 00:12:05.409 her grandma and elected. Yes, she was apparently allergic to the truth. 181 00:12:05.529 --> 00:12:09.730 She was aller, and I understand. Listen, you're and your sin. 182 00:12:09.889 --> 00:12:11.129 You're allergic to the truth. I get it. I was like that at 183 00:12:11.169 --> 00:12:15.840 one point in my life. Yeah, and then I'll just kind of wrap 184 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:20.240 it up with this awesome review. Okay, did really blesses my heart. 185 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:22.279 And this is from Cam one, two, three, four, five, 186 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:26.480 six, seven, eight, nine, one or nine hundred ten, communist 187 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:33.710 podcast, Communist, and this is also a one star review. This podcast 188 00:12:33.830 --> 00:12:41.149 is communist and run by Communist. God hates communists and I think God hates 189 00:12:41.269 --> 00:12:46.419 communism, that's for sure. And we're not communist, by the way. 190 00:12:46.580 --> 00:12:50.460 Yes, actually not even really talked about communism a little bit in a podcast 191 00:12:50.539 --> 00:12:54.500 we did a couple of months ago and anyway, that was fun. So 192 00:12:54.700 --> 00:12:58.210 I hope that blessed you, guys. Hope you just see kind of the 193 00:12:58.250 --> 00:13:01.970 spirit of some of these these pro choice people, and of course many of 194 00:13:03.049 --> 00:13:05.409 them are just being way over the top to try to get a reaction out 195 00:13:05.450 --> 00:13:09.169 of us. Yep, whatever, we waste your you can waste your breath 196 00:13:09.169 --> 00:13:13.200 if you want, waste your typing ability. Thank you to bring our ranks. 197 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.000 Thank you for bringing us up in the rankings. It's it's a blessing 198 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.240 to us. But let's jump into our subject. Okay, that was not 199 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:24.320 very encouraging. This is maybe not going to be very encouraging, but it's 200 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:28.389 real again, this is real life that not all stories turn out good. 201 00:13:28.429 --> 00:13:33.470 We share the stories that do a lot of times on social media, in 202 00:13:33.629 --> 00:13:35.669 blog posts and things like that, in order to encourage people, to show 203 00:13:35.750 --> 00:13:39.149 what God is doing. And even in some of the stories that we share 204 00:13:39.990 --> 00:13:43.779 there's some things happening behind the scenes that are not all, you know, 205 00:13:45.100 --> 00:13:48.379 roses and glory, right. There's see stuff. There's some people that come 206 00:13:48.460 --> 00:13:52.419 to an abortion center. Yeah, typically have pretty messy stuff going on and 207 00:13:52.460 --> 00:13:56.610 let's be honest, yeah, we've got some messy stuff going on our lives 208 00:13:56.649 --> 00:13:58.129 too. We've got some stuff that we need to help with and people to 209 00:13:58.250 --> 00:14:03.370 help the body of Christ to help us through. Yeah, and so it's 210 00:14:03.409 --> 00:14:07.210 no different from the good stories, but the bad stories a lot of times 211 00:14:07.289 --> 00:14:09.840 can get us down. But, as I said when we started out, 212 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:13.799 sometimes the good stories can get people down. And what I mean by that 213 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:18.080 as we have missionaries, were raising up missionaries across the country, across the 214 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:22.360 world that are going out to their abortion centers. We're training him here in 215 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.990 Charlotte, we're sending them out and they're bearing some awesome fruit. Many of 216 00:14:26.029 --> 00:14:28.149 them are seeing baby saves soon as they get back to their home city, 217 00:14:28.830 --> 00:14:31.870 but some aren't seeing baby saved and they can be discouraged and think, well, 218 00:14:33.269 --> 00:14:35.950 maybe I'm not doing something right, right, but maybe this is wrong. 219 00:14:35.149 --> 00:14:39.580 It's only if only Vicky and Daniel would write. Yeah, because what's 220 00:14:39.580 --> 00:14:41.460 going on in Charlotte? That's not happening here, so maybe it's something wrong 221 00:14:41.500 --> 00:14:43.940 with me. Yeah, but we're going to encourage you. Got I mean, 222 00:14:45.100 --> 00:14:48.379 one of the things is we have a very busy abortion center. Yeah, 223 00:14:48.500 --> 00:14:50.740 we've got twenty five to thirty babies that are dying at this abortion center. 224 00:14:50.779 --> 00:14:54.330 If we did a ratio right of how many babies are save versus how 225 00:14:54.370 --> 00:15:00.210 many babies are dying, we would, in comparison, be pretty dismal failures 226 00:15:00.769 --> 00:15:05.090 and and just not doing very well. Right again, the victory is in 227 00:15:05.210 --> 00:15:09.000 obedience. But sometimes that, which is intended to be an encouragement to us, 228 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:11.399 can actually be a discouragement because, yeah, they've got that going on 229 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:15.840 in Charlotte, but that's not happening here. It can happen on social media 230 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:18.399 with parents who you know. You got your friends who share about how great 231 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:22.509 their kids are doing. Your homeschool and your kids and and and you want 232 00:15:22.549 --> 00:15:26.629 to be encouraged, and yet this homeschool family is doing so much better than 233 00:15:26.669 --> 00:15:31.309 you are. Meanwhile, behind the scenes, things you're not going that great 234 00:15:31.309 --> 00:15:33.549 either for them. But they're sharing the good things and that's what we tend 235 00:15:33.549 --> 00:15:35.940 to do. We tend to share the good things that happen and we gravitate 236 00:15:37.019 --> 00:15:39.139 away from sharing the bad things. We're going to share some of the bad 237 00:15:39.139 --> 00:15:41.779 things, right and but one of the one of the bad sites of that 238 00:15:41.580 --> 00:15:46.019 that you described on social media, and it's true, I think, even 239 00:15:46.100 --> 00:15:50.610 in US sharing the good stories, is you feel like there's these superstars, 240 00:15:50.809 --> 00:15:56.929 yeah, who can do everything right and and that's just never the case. 241 00:15:56.250 --> 00:16:00.649 It is not true and it doesn't at like you said, it's not whether 242 00:16:00.730 --> 00:16:06.799 we do things even right or wrong. It's has God prepared that heart and 243 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:12.879 that woman has her her own conscience and whatever she's going through. So the 244 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:18.000 decision is not ours. We're just showing up. And both of these stories 245 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:21.309 that we're going to share today that did not turn out well. I was 246 00:16:21.389 --> 00:16:26.190 the counselor they did not turn out well. Yeah, so the first one 247 00:16:27.230 --> 00:16:33.340 was very interesting, probably the hardest case I've ever dealt with. Okay, 248 00:16:33.740 --> 00:16:38.100 and I've been out there now eight years, and this one really was, 249 00:16:38.659 --> 00:16:42.019 was rough. I don't I honestly don't know why she pulled over. She 250 00:16:42.179 --> 00:16:47.100 pulled over for one of our newer counselors. Leah, is that counselor's name, 251 00:16:47.450 --> 00:16:52.210 and I'll call this woman Marcia. So Marcy pulled over, talked with 252 00:16:52.330 --> 00:16:57.649 Leah for a little while and then Leah knew this is kind of complicated, 253 00:16:57.730 --> 00:17:03.279 so she brought the woman to me and the woman drove her car over to 254 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:07.759 where I was standing. I went to talk with her. She has several 255 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:19.069 other children and she was homeless. The boyfriend was homeless and Marcy had schizophrenia. 256 00:17:19.349 --> 00:17:25.190 Okay, unmedicated in fact, because of issues not being able to get 257 00:17:25.230 --> 00:17:30.019 Medicaid and not yet. And so she's got a very serious mental illness. 258 00:17:30.539 --> 00:17:37.779 Lots of other kids, no family, I don't believe, around other than 259 00:17:37.859 --> 00:17:44.259 this boyfriend who actually didn't want her to abort the child. But she was 260 00:17:45.369 --> 00:17:48.210 off her meds. Was Schizophrenia. And so she you would see that the 261 00:17:48.289 --> 00:17:52.890 mental illness would sometimes be speaking. Yeah, sometimes she'd beat more coherent. 262 00:17:53.049 --> 00:17:59.960 She started off really angry, very defensive, very paranoid, and as the 263 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:04.720 conversation evolved I first fall. It was as the conversation evolved that I found 264 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:10.359 out about the schizophrenia. But she was able to list the major obstacles and 265 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:15.109 and we were able to say hey, we have resources that can help you. 266 00:18:15.670 --> 00:18:22.230 We scheduled an ultrasound for her and she was all set to drive to 267 00:18:22.589 --> 00:18:27.819 that it. She had to go some distance because our ultrasound was not out 268 00:18:27.859 --> 00:18:33.539 that day, our mobile ultrasound unit. So got that all set up. 269 00:18:33.220 --> 00:18:37.539 Told her about the mentorship program through Love Life Charlotte and that we were going 270 00:18:37.700 --> 00:18:41.970 to sign her up for that. The next day we would call her and 271 00:18:41.170 --> 00:18:48.210 we would also ask her about how the ultrasound went. So it that night. 272 00:18:48.490 --> 00:18:52.009 She didn't pick up the phone. The next day she still didn't pick 273 00:18:52.049 --> 00:18:57.400 up the phone. I had assigned her to Leah to work out the Ment 274 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:00.960 Council, the new councilor to work out the mentorship program with her, because 275 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:04.920 everything else was done. She she was on on board, the boyfriend was 276 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:07.519 on board, they had gone off to see their baby, as far as 277 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:14.269 we knew, and several days went by. Lee was all prepared. Several 278 00:19:14.269 --> 00:19:17.309 days go by, we still haven't heard anything from her. We assume she's 279 00:19:17.349 --> 00:19:23.859 aborted. Yeah, and then out of the blue she called me and left 280 00:19:26.619 --> 00:19:29.619 a message that when I think was a nice message, I kind of get 281 00:19:29.700 --> 00:19:33.299 them mixed up, but saying she did want an ultrasound so apparently had not 282 00:19:33.380 --> 00:19:38.369 been to the first ultrasound. I encourage her to please contact Leah and and 283 00:19:38.569 --> 00:19:42.089 be signed up for the mannorship program and we would try and arrange the ultrasound. 284 00:19:42.130 --> 00:19:47.250 And while she did contactly, and while she was talking to Leah, 285 00:19:47.769 --> 00:19:52.329 threatened to commit suicide well, and just was flipping out and then the phone 286 00:19:52.329 --> 00:19:56.119 went dead. So Leah contacted me. Please call her right away. I'm 287 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:00.240 so worried. I'm so scared. I did. She was still upset, 288 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:04.039 but not she had calmed down and by the end of our discussion, then 289 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:08.430 she's back on track. She's going to get the mentorship program, she's gonna 290 00:20:10.309 --> 00:20:15.509 she we set up a new ultrasound and to get her her medication. That 291 00:20:15.670 --> 00:20:19.029 was the part of the things that I outlined. I outline things that she 292 00:20:19.109 --> 00:20:22.819 needed to do immediately and one of those was we needed to get her on 293 00:20:22.980 --> 00:20:30.579 medications. We for this very significant mental illness. So our pro life doctor 294 00:20:30.619 --> 00:20:33.819 who works with us, he agreed to call all her and talk with her 295 00:20:33.859 --> 00:20:37.329 about what medication she could take and told told us she should go immediately to 296 00:20:37.369 --> 00:20:41.250 the ear. Yeah, talking about medications she could take in light of being 297 00:20:41.289 --> 00:20:44.930 pregnant. And that's what exactly I'm sorry, yes, exactly, and so 298 00:20:45.009 --> 00:20:52.839 so she I assume that she had gone to the ear because late, late 299 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.960 that night I was sleeping. But late that night I got a phone call. 300 00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:00.319 I could not begin to repeat all the words that were used, and 301 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:07.630 she left a message just furious and spewing hate and anger, saying that that 302 00:21:07.390 --> 00:21:11.829 the medication that we had told her could not be taken while pregnant and just 303 00:21:12.150 --> 00:21:17.549 and we don't do anything we've promised, even though everything that we had promised 304 00:21:17.990 --> 00:21:21.460 was through the mentor and the she had not yet. Can't, you know, 305 00:21:21.579 --> 00:21:25.980 followed through on the mentorship program yeah, anyway, so I thought that's 306 00:21:26.019 --> 00:21:27.779 probably the last time going to hear from her or but I did. I 307 00:21:27.859 --> 00:21:32.700 did actually text her a nice note the next morning saying we'd love to help 308 00:21:32.740 --> 00:21:36.049 you, just give me a call when you're ready. Yeah, and a 309 00:21:37.289 --> 00:21:42.049 long time goes by and we find out later that she had actually gone to 310 00:21:42.250 --> 00:21:45.849 that ultrasound that first day. Okay, so she went right from the abortions 311 00:21:45.890 --> 00:21:49.319 and yeah, it just like we told her too. But she was found 312 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:53.440 not pregnant. Okay, it was not pregnant. So all of that anger 313 00:21:53.880 --> 00:22:00.200 and everything was while she's not pregnant and she knew she wasn't pretty. seither 314 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:06.150 you, unless you know she does have schizophrenia, so maybe something, but 315 00:22:06.750 --> 00:22:12.230 but so, so that that ended. At that point I thought the story 316 00:22:12.390 --> 00:22:18.140 was over and before I knew that she was not pregnant, I was certain 317 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:23.380 that she had just gone and aborted the baby. Yeah, but but then 318 00:22:23.819 --> 00:22:29.819 some sometime we were all discouraged. Leah was discouraged. I had thought this 319 00:22:29.980 --> 00:22:33.130 was going to be a great learning experience for Lee and it turned out to 320 00:22:33.329 --> 00:22:40.170 be traumatic for Boileia or other counselor, and we had offered so much to 321 00:22:40.329 --> 00:22:44.250 this woman. She didn't follow the steps necessary to avail ourselves of them. 322 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:49.519 But we'd offered all of this and she had disregarded and then lied to us. 323 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:53.039 Yeah, lied to us about whether she was pregnant or not. And 324 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:59.509 so that was a story that was very disheartening. It it did not turn 325 00:22:59.549 --> 00:23:03.990 out well and it was one of those impossible situations. We didn't really quite 326 00:23:03.069 --> 00:23:07.750 know what to do. Yeah, and this is a story that initially we 327 00:23:07.869 --> 00:23:11.349 were like, praise Lord, Lea, being a brand new counselor, had 328 00:23:11.470 --> 00:23:15.940 this interaction right turned out good. The lady left from driving, she was 329 00:23:15.940 --> 00:23:19.700 driving to the abortion center, basically cut a one hundred and eighty degree turn 330 00:23:19.859 --> 00:23:22.700 in the road and turn back around to go to the pregnancy center. Did 331 00:23:23.059 --> 00:23:26.690 and initially we're like, praise God, God use this new counselor who had 332 00:23:26.730 --> 00:23:32.369 just stepped out Yep in and kind of a really uncomfortable area. I mean 333 00:23:32.769 --> 00:23:37.289 do aministrate an abortion clinic is very uncomfortable for anybody, yeah, but especially 334 00:23:37.289 --> 00:23:41.440 a young lady like her to write. And so we were encouraged initially and 335 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:47.319 then then later own discouraged by the interactions. Is this. Yeah, he 336 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:49.400 brought about, and so I will be very honest, some of the the 337 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:55.519 issues that went through my head, where this is a woman with several children, 338 00:23:55.559 --> 00:24:02.309 a significant mental illness, yeah, pregnant, already, showing and UNMEDICATED, 339 00:24:02.349 --> 00:24:07.069 showing the volatility emotionally and all I was thinking, what is going to 340 00:24:07.150 --> 00:24:11.259 happen to this poor baby? Yeah, that that she's carrying in her roomb 341 00:24:11.339 --> 00:24:14.900 yeah, right now, and you really start to question, not only did 342 00:24:14.940 --> 00:24:18.660 I do everything right, but was he even right in doing anything right? 343 00:24:18.700 --> 00:24:22.619 Yeah, and I you know, ultimately I do believe that I was. 344 00:24:22.900 --> 00:24:26.890 Well, that's something I want us to want us to just hang right there 345 00:24:26.930 --> 00:24:30.930 for a second so that people understand that these are real struggles that we have 346 00:24:32.049 --> 00:24:34.410 in our mind. That's right. That's right, because we've dealt with situations 347 00:24:34.490 --> 00:24:41.400 where we've got a family who, maybe it's a single mom that has six 348 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:45.039 kids. I'm thinking of a particular situation. Yeah, a young lady that 349 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:48.920 has six kids. Yeah, she's like in her mid S. Wow, 350 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:56.269 wow, and six kids, pregnant again. Yeah, the kids all have 351 00:24:56.430 --> 00:25:00.750 different father's. Yeah, and it's like wow, you look at that situation, 352 00:25:00.869 --> 00:25:03.670 you like, wow, if there ever was a situation where I could 353 00:25:03.670 --> 00:25:06.789 put my stamp of approval on abortion, this would be one. Yeah, 354 00:25:06.789 --> 00:25:08.819 because this kid is not going to dis like the other kids, not going 355 00:25:08.859 --> 00:25:14.339 to know his dad, her dad. Yeah, going to be raised in 356 00:25:14.380 --> 00:25:19.940 a very challenging scenario. Yeah, and who knows what's going to be the 357 00:25:21.019 --> 00:25:26.690 outcome. However, we always have to remember it and we're training our sidewalk 358 00:25:26.769 --> 00:25:30.450 counselors and we're training new sidewalk missionaries. We always touch on this point when 359 00:25:30.450 --> 00:25:36.599 we deal with the hard cases, hard cases like that, like bad fetal 360 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:40.519 diagnosis and things like that. It was always have to remember that abortion is 361 00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:45.640 never the answer because abortion kills an innocent person. We always have to keep 362 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:51.349 that in mind. Abortion is never the solution, and God is always a 363 00:25:51.710 --> 00:25:55.109 consideration in our minds. So we can say, well, this kid is, 364 00:25:55.509 --> 00:25:57.869 you know, number seven of six kids at all have a different father, 365 00:25:57.910 --> 00:26:04.660 very difficult situation and, humanly speaking, yet it's impossible for any good 366 00:26:04.660 --> 00:26:07.819 to come out of that. But we're not humanly speaking. We have to 367 00:26:07.900 --> 00:26:15.019 speak from the perspective that there is a God that oversees his creation and it 368 00:26:15.140 --> 00:26:18.609 has a plan and a purpose for every person that he creates and we don't 369 00:26:18.650 --> 00:26:22.410 get to play God. That's right, and these scenarios that we encounter, 370 00:26:22.609 --> 00:26:26.089 difficult as they might be, we don't get to play God and we don't 371 00:26:26.089 --> 00:26:29.490 get to choose who has value and who doesn't. It doesn't matter. It 372 00:26:29.849 --> 00:26:33.039 matters in the sense that we care about this mom, we care about her 373 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:36.480 struggles, the mental issues that she's struggling with, and we care about that 374 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:41.599 baby that maybe is going to be brought into those mental struggles. But those 375 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:45.799 that that particular situation does not dictate the value of that child. That child 376 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:49.549 still is loved by God and known by him. Yeah, and it's still 377 00:26:49.670 --> 00:26:53.109 wrong to kill him or her. Yeah, and I'm so glad that you've 378 00:26:53.190 --> 00:26:57.230 said all that and because that's so true and that's that's where we have to 379 00:26:57.349 --> 00:27:02.740 keep coming back. But I also think it is maybe, in a weird 380 00:27:02.740 --> 00:27:07.059 way, encouraging for others to know that here. You know, we've had 381 00:27:07.099 --> 00:27:11.500 a lot of success out here, I would say, in literal numbers of 382 00:27:11.579 --> 00:27:15.569 babies saved and and I've been doing this a long time and it did go 383 00:27:15.890 --> 00:27:21.210 through my mind, should I even be talking to this woman about saving her 384 00:27:21.250 --> 00:27:25.369 baby? Yeah, did. Yeah, now I overcame that okay, and 385 00:27:26.089 --> 00:27:29.490 I still stayed true to what I felt God had called me to do. 386 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:36.000 But I think we all probably have those moments of just yourself questioning and doubt 387 00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:40.680 and wondering, is it okay what I'm doing? Yeah, and ultimately, 388 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:42.680 as you described, of course it is, and of course it's not only 389 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.470 thing, it's command. It commanded. Yeah, and you know again we 390 00:27:47.549 --> 00:27:51.710 can kind of get wrapped up in kind of our emotions and what our emotions 391 00:27:51.789 --> 00:27:55.710 dictate to us. That's why is Christians, our emotions can never be the 392 00:27:55.869 --> 00:28:00.259 standard, right, if our emotions are the standard, then we wouldn't be 393 00:28:00.500 --> 00:28:03.980 out there at all. If our emotions are the standard, then we would 394 00:28:03.980 --> 00:28:08.099 be okay with babies being killed because they're product of rape or incest or the 395 00:28:08.220 --> 00:28:11.740 health of the mother. That's where you get in and pro life folks, 396 00:28:12.089 --> 00:28:15.769 so called pro life people, that leave allowances for those things. It's because 397 00:28:15.769 --> 00:28:21.410 they're driven by their emotions. And they talk about an emotional situation where a 398 00:28:21.450 --> 00:28:26.210 woman is a victim of rape and we can't quite possibly tell her that she 399 00:28:26.289 --> 00:28:29.880 needs to carry that baby to term. Well, we can, because the 400 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.559 Bible says that every human being is made in God's image and it doesn't give 401 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.680 exceptions in their human beings, who result of rape or not? Yeah, 402 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.509 valuable. It didn't say that right. Human beings are valuable in the sight 403 00:28:41.589 --> 00:28:44.589 of God because we're made in God's image. So again, we can't be 404 00:28:44.750 --> 00:28:49.309 led by our feelings, by our emotions. The Bible is our firm foundation 405 00:28:49.349 --> 00:28:52.470 and that's why you were able to go. And it's not like there were 406 00:28:52.509 --> 00:28:55.940 some big struggle in your mind really of whether or not you should talk to 407 00:28:56.059 --> 00:28:59.180 this mom. You knew that you should, but there's this human kind of 408 00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:03.460 propensity to be led by emotions and you just push that to the side because 409 00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:07.180 your foundation is in the word of God, right, not in humanitarian efforts 410 00:29:07.299 --> 00:29:12.529 or or utilitarian ideas and all that stuff, but in the scriptures. Yeah, 411 00:29:12.809 --> 00:29:18.130 and while this sort of hurts the premise of the podcast, I do 412 00:29:18.329 --> 00:29:23.359 have to say that as a recently this woman found out that she had a 413 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:30.920 condition that made the pregnancy test negative. Okay, but she did go to 414 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:36.960 the AR, she did get her medication. It turns out she is pregnant. 415 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.069 Our discussion with her and the Boyfriend, which was very gospel focused, 416 00:29:41.630 --> 00:29:45.990 did change her heart. Now she without a doubt was not going to abort 417 00:29:47.309 --> 00:29:51.990 this baby. She was full on wanting the child and she signed up for 418 00:29:52.069 --> 00:29:56.900 the love life mentorship program so, which has significant health thanks. kind of 419 00:29:56.940 --> 00:29:59.140 found this out time. I just found this how today, to tell you 420 00:29:59.140 --> 00:30:02.900 the truth. So this, this was an and I think that raises another 421 00:30:03.140 --> 00:30:07.250 really critical point. Stories that turn out bad maybe didn't turn out bad. 422 00:30:07.329 --> 00:30:11.529 Yeah, we don't always hear the end of the store asolutely. So just 423 00:30:12.170 --> 00:30:15.410 know that God can work a miracle because if this, if there was ever 424 00:30:15.450 --> 00:30:19.250 a miracle worked, in my opinion, it was how this story, at 425 00:30:19.289 --> 00:30:22.759 least thus far. It could change tomorrow. Sure. Yeah, absolutely now, 426 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.559 and that's one of the things that I encourage our counselors with all the 427 00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.359 time is that, yeah, you've poured into a young lady on the sidewalk 428 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.400 and she took your literature and she looked through it, she considered what you 429 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.549 had to say and then she walked into those doors. That is still not 430 00:30:37.190 --> 00:30:40.349 a for sure. She chose abortion. She walks in those doors. We've 431 00:30:40.349 --> 00:30:44.069 had MOMS who, months later, drove back to the clinic to let us 432 00:30:44.109 --> 00:30:47.549 know that they were there and they left after we'd left and chose live. 433 00:30:47.710 --> 00:30:51.420 So we should never give up hope and again, the victory is always in 434 00:30:51.579 --> 00:30:56.420 obeying God and giving the truth. I told one pro abortion person today she 435 00:30:56.539 --> 00:30:59.859 was trying to discourage me by saying, you know, I was calling out 436 00:30:59.900 --> 00:31:02.539 to a lady going in, caught out to actually several, and she said 437 00:31:02.980 --> 00:31:04.609 you've not gotten anyone to come over and all you you've gotten. You've not 438 00:31:04.730 --> 00:31:08.450 gotten anyone to to take you up on your offers to to get information or 439 00:31:08.450 --> 00:31:11.690 anything like that. I said, listen, I'm just the mail man. 440 00:31:12.089 --> 00:31:15.609 I'm here to deliver the mail. Right, it's not. I can't open 441 00:31:15.650 --> 00:31:18.240 the mail for him. Right. I'm just delivering the mail. So we 442 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.400 kind of give that as an example of what we're out there to do, 443 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:22.839 whether to deliverence. By the way, I heard that our sink. I'm 444 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.680 going to use that. The mailman, he doesn't have anything to do with 445 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.400 it. Well or not it's open, he just delivers it and that's what 446 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:32.839 we're here to do, to deliver the mountain. Now I hope and pray 447 00:31:33.269 --> 00:31:34.869 that they do open the mail, that do take what we're delivering to them 448 00:31:34.950 --> 00:31:40.549 the truth, and they open it up and listen and contemplated and many do 449 00:31:41.230 --> 00:31:45.630 unfortunately, many don't. So let's jump into another story that and it's maybe 450 00:31:45.069 --> 00:31:48.980 didn't end well. Yes, as far as far as we know. So 451 00:31:48.099 --> 00:31:56.819 this was a woman who came out of of the abortion center. She comes 452 00:31:56.900 --> 00:32:02.410 through the bushes to come towards our counselors and said that she had chosen life. 453 00:32:02.529 --> 00:32:06.369 Yeah, that I don't know if it was things that she had heard. 454 00:32:06.369 --> 00:32:08.809 I think it was for through all of our calling out that day. 455 00:32:08.890 --> 00:32:15.289 So she comes to the bushes to US crying. Our whole counseling group just 456 00:32:15.490 --> 00:32:20.559 we all surrounded her and just the spirit of God filled us and we all 457 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.640 just surrounded her and hugged her. We all prayed in a huddle around her, 458 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:29.039 hugging her. Yeah, remember that. She was very like moved by 459 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.309 the fact that we were we were there in encouraging yeah, Yeahd you guys 460 00:32:32.390 --> 00:32:35.869 were here, right. She initially said, I think, that she was 461 00:32:35.910 --> 00:32:38.549 angry that we were there. Right, but what we said ultimately, she 462 00:32:38.710 --> 00:32:43.190 said, pierced her hard and she chose not to have the abortion. Yeah. 463 00:32:43.309 --> 00:32:45.500 Yeah, so she was inviting us to come and pray over her, 464 00:32:45.579 --> 00:32:50.660 and did and and and she's he and I started. She had not even 465 00:32:50.700 --> 00:32:53.019 asked for any help yet, but I started sharing with her all the help 466 00:32:53.140 --> 00:32:58.650 that we had and she started crying again and saying she couldn't believe it and 467 00:32:59.130 --> 00:33:05.289 just was overwhelmed by all that we were offering and was so excited and she 468 00:33:05.970 --> 00:33:09.490 had truly made a hundred eighty degree turn around to now. You know, 469 00:33:09.650 --> 00:33:13.720 you guys need to be out there all the time, every day, which 470 00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:17.279 we are. Yeah, but because you're so valuable, she would have aborted 471 00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.839 her baby and she said that it was us being there that had made the 472 00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.799 difference and turned her to life. So she and her boyfriend drive away and 473 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:30.549 we're all cheering and overjoyed. Yeah, we were just delighted. Everybody's, 474 00:33:30.670 --> 00:33:36.950 you know, praising God and saying Hallelujah and word for victory exactly. And 475 00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:40.390 we go and the glorious part of it for me was, I mean baby 476 00:33:40.500 --> 00:33:44.339 was saved. That was awesome. But it happened right in front of the 477 00:33:44.420 --> 00:33:46.099 pro abortion people. I say that, you know, nobody wants to talk 478 00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:50.019 to you and all this. I Ha. Yeah, take that. Yeah, 479 00:33:50.059 --> 00:33:52.859 that's right. Not that we glow tweed, never go try, not 480 00:33:52.980 --> 00:33:58.490 the right, but the grace of yeah, but anyway, so I'm at 481 00:33:58.569 --> 00:34:02.569 home and that it's like going on towards dinner time and I get a call 482 00:34:04.009 --> 00:34:07.170 from one of our councilors. It said, Vickie, I hate to be 483 00:34:07.329 --> 00:34:09.960 the person to tell you this, but I just drove back by the abortion 484 00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:17.079 center and that woman from that morning she's back. She's the last one they're 485 00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:23.590 she's coming out of the abortion center and she is with the boyfriend and I 486 00:34:23.630 --> 00:34:27.590 said, are you positive it's her? They they were so, yeah, 487 00:34:27.710 --> 00:34:30.190 Oh, yeah. So now I knew how far along this woman was. 488 00:34:30.469 --> 00:34:35.630 I knew she was sixteen weeks, which is probably a two day procedure, 489 00:34:35.710 --> 00:34:39.699 and in the first day procedure they put in the seaweed stomach our Lamin area, 490 00:34:42.139 --> 00:34:49.739 which softens the Cervix and allows the abortionist two more easily enter and remove. 491 00:34:49.940 --> 00:34:52.050 Maybe this is a basic teaching moment to rabbit trail real quick, because 492 00:34:52.050 --> 00:34:57.130 it is helpful that we understand abortion procedures. Yes, and so this young 493 00:34:57.170 --> 00:35:00.170 lady be in sixteen weeks is kind of right at the threshold, or they 494 00:35:00.170 --> 00:35:04.530 would have to do a two day abortion right procedure. And ultimately what they've 495 00:35:04.530 --> 00:35:07.079 got to do that they've got to expand the cervix in such a way where 496 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.639 they can get the instruments in there to dismember the baby. At that point 497 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:15.000 the baby's is pretty big. It's as team weeks until whether or not it's 498 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.000 a boy or girl at that point. Yeah, and so the Lemon area 499 00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:22.989 are basically little seaweed rods that expand with moisture, and so they will insert 500 00:35:22.590 --> 00:35:27.190 three, four five of those into the cervix. They're really small until they 501 00:35:27.230 --> 00:35:31.070 get moisture and then they expand and then, you know, it takes twelve 502 00:35:31.230 --> 00:35:36.380 hours or so, I guess, for them to expand to the point where 503 00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:38.139 ultimately, on the next day she'll go back, the doctor will remove the 504 00:35:38.179 --> 00:35:43.699 lemon area the service is expanded enough where he can get other tools in there 505 00:35:43.780 --> 00:35:45.739 to expand it a little further and then get the instruments in there. Right 506 00:35:45.860 --> 00:35:47.980 and a child. So she was at the first day of that. It 507 00:35:49.139 --> 00:35:52.809 was sheep. I assumed. I didn't know because I hadn't talked to her, 508 00:35:52.889 --> 00:35:57.289 but I that was my assumption and assumption that that hopefully was going to 509 00:35:57.329 --> 00:36:00.449 save that baby's life, because the lemon area do not harm the child. 510 00:36:00.650 --> 00:36:02.449 Yeah, what it does is it we can see the cervix, which is 511 00:36:02.530 --> 00:36:08.920 not good and some women do spontaneously aboard because the cervix has been weakened so 512 00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:14.920 much and so they they can't hold the baby in. Yeah, but but 513 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:19.389 knowing that, I texted her right away and I said I know that you 514 00:36:19.429 --> 00:36:22.630 were back at the abortion center. One of our councilors saw you. Was 515 00:36:23.030 --> 00:36:28.349 Was it the first day of a two day procedure? And she admitted it 516 00:36:28.670 --> 00:36:31.309 was, and she told me why she had returned and I must say again, 517 00:36:31.940 --> 00:36:36.099 you know, I understood. Yeah, I don't. I didn't, 518 00:36:36.539 --> 00:36:39.539 you know, I didn't say it was okay, but but I understood why. 519 00:36:39.659 --> 00:36:45.260 She was being black backmailed by the the dad of the baby with some 520 00:36:45.380 --> 00:36:52.530 pretty horrific things and she just was terrified. So she but she told me 521 00:36:52.650 --> 00:36:55.449 it was day one and I explained about the Lamin area. said she could 522 00:36:55.570 --> 00:37:00.809 reverse that, she could have those removed, go to an r immediately. 523 00:37:00.929 --> 00:37:04.960 We would have our pro life Dr Call and console with her, but those, 524 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.519 they could be removed, the baby would be safe. She had already 525 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:09.719 started home, which was, I don't know, an hour away, and 526 00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:14.559 she said when she would go to the hospital nearer home and our pro life 527 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.429 doctor said she would be fine. Yeah, he told us. He's actually 528 00:37:17.510 --> 00:37:22.469 removed those rods. The next day and the baby's fine, but and the 529 00:37:22.789 --> 00:37:27.389 the servics just tightens back up goes back to normal. Yeah, so she 530 00:37:27.630 --> 00:37:32.380 even showed me on her gps the like, every few minutes an update of 531 00:37:32.460 --> 00:37:36.340 where her car was, how close she was the hospital she was. She 532 00:37:36.820 --> 00:37:38.940 had not known it could be reverse. She had already regretted that she had 533 00:37:38.980 --> 00:37:45.769 put the had the Lamin area put in and she wanted to stop it and 534 00:37:45.010 --> 00:37:49.929 to go to the AR and try to save her baby. And so we 535 00:37:50.050 --> 00:37:55.250 texted a lot until it was getting she pulled into the ear and said we're 536 00:37:55.369 --> 00:37:59.360 here, and then I didn't hear from her. I text a few times 537 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.320 but I didn't hear from her. From her, I went to bed praying 538 00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:07.840 and hoping that everything was well. That night I got a text from apparently 539 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:14.309 the boy friend, who said that they the baby was fine but they had 540 00:38:14.429 --> 00:38:19.550 decided they would return to kill the baby the next day. So I didn't 541 00:38:19.550 --> 00:38:22.590 get that text till early the next morning, like five am. I started 542 00:38:22.710 --> 00:38:29.300 texting back and texting everything I could think the the humanity, the baby are 543 00:38:29.420 --> 00:38:34.619 resources, the development of a sixteen week old and each center a video of 544 00:38:34.659 --> 00:38:38.139 a sixteen week old in the womb and description of what happens to that sixteen 545 00:38:38.139 --> 00:38:43.489 week old baby in an abortion everything. And what I got back almost right 546 00:38:43.530 --> 00:38:49.730 away was vile anger from the boyfriend, not from the mom, just saying 547 00:38:49.769 --> 00:38:54.650 leave us alone, and and and he said some really nasty, very maybe 548 00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:59.599 similar things to the pro abortion theairies that we read. Yes, you know, 549 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:05.199 worse. And and again I just texted back, we're here to help, 550 00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:08.360 please don't kill your baby and let us help you. And then that 551 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:13.590 was it. I never never heard anything else. So the last text from 552 00:39:13.630 --> 00:39:19.230 the woman had been very sweet and overjoyed that the baby could be saved and 553 00:39:19.349 --> 00:39:24.579 kind, and then these ongoing text couple of text from the boyfriend were very 554 00:39:24.659 --> 00:39:29.179 nasty and they were going to kill the baby. The woman did not return 555 00:39:29.619 --> 00:39:32.099 to the abortion center the next day because I was there at least the littery 556 00:39:32.139 --> 00:39:37.500 abortion centers, right and she's already paid and I knew money was was tight. 557 00:39:37.730 --> 00:39:45.010 So I assume my my hopeful heart things maybe the boyfriend got ahold of 558 00:39:45.090 --> 00:39:49.809 the phone and that the woman really had had the Laminaria removed and just never 559 00:39:49.929 --> 00:39:52.730 got our phone back, but I'll never know. Yeah, but that was 560 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:58.000 a an extremely discouraging story because, again, for kind of the same reason 561 00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.920 as the prior story, we were all rejoicing that that we had overcome, 562 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:10.269 with God, this really significantly difficult case. Yeah, and and then it 563 00:40:10.670 --> 00:40:15.230 turned around where it wasn't what we thought it was. Yes, yeah, 564 00:40:15.869 --> 00:40:20.309 yeah, and of course that's one. These are two of many stories that 565 00:40:20.349 --> 00:40:25.460 we could tell you, guys, and yet still we continue on. Right. 566 00:40:27.300 --> 00:40:30.260 These are stories. Some of the stories, like, we had to 567 00:40:30.380 --> 00:40:36.449 pick and choose because we don't want to shame the people that chose to apparently, 568 00:40:36.530 --> 00:40:38.409 for us, we know to chose to have an abortion. We don't 569 00:40:38.409 --> 00:40:43.769 want to just kind of plaster all the negative story and all that stuff. 570 00:40:43.809 --> 00:40:45.289 So some things, if we, if we shared some of the stories, 571 00:40:45.329 --> 00:40:50.000 we be sharing details because we have to. That would maybe show who the 572 00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.519 person was and all of that. So we don't want to do that. 573 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:53.800 So just take my word for it, guys. There's a lot of other 574 00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:57.920 stories that we could share. The didn't turn out like we hope that they 575 00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:01.360 would turn out. Yeah, however, we do have to remind ourselves that 576 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:06.949 we're not out there for ourselves, we're not out there to make ourselves feel 577 00:41:06.949 --> 00:41:09.829 better about being Christians or whatever. We're out there for the Lord and again 578 00:41:09.869 --> 00:41:14.030 the victory is in obedience and we obey God. When we do what God 579 00:41:14.150 --> 00:41:16.070 us has said for us to do, give a voice to those that don't 580 00:41:16.070 --> 00:41:21.420 have a voice, then we're victorious in that, whether we see baby saved 581 00:41:21.460 --> 00:41:22.539 or not, whether we see I mean I think of a story. I 582 00:41:22.659 --> 00:41:27.420 think I've shared this story quite a few times on this podcast, maybe not, 583 00:41:28.179 --> 00:41:31.300 but of the mom of twins, eighteen week twins, who walked out 584 00:41:31.340 --> 00:41:35.530 of the abortion center on board the Mobile Ultra sound unit that was parked in 585 00:41:35.570 --> 00:41:39.010 front of the abortion center. This is some years ago, and the counselor 586 00:41:39.170 --> 00:41:44.369 and the nurse both poured into this young lady, I mean showed her every 587 00:41:44.489 --> 00:41:47.360 reason to trust the Lord, every resource that was available, all the things 588 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:51.800 that she was struggling with had answers and there was there were things that we 589 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:53.559 could point her to to show her that she didn't have to have the abortion. 590 00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:59.840 She got the ultrasound. The counselor and the nurse both saw two babies 591 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:01.829 on that screen. She was eighteen weeks along, so you see everything. 592 00:42:01.869 --> 00:42:06.349 Yeah, fully developed. Little could tell whether it's a boy or girl. 593 00:42:06.789 --> 00:42:09.989 You could see all the fingers and toes. I mean you could see him 594 00:42:10.030 --> 00:42:15.179 sometimes sucking their thumb. Yeah, even earlier than that and even after all 595 00:42:15.219 --> 00:42:19.579 that was said and done, she stepped right off of that mobile unit, 596 00:42:19.739 --> 00:42:23.139 right off of that that Mobultra sound unit, walked into that abortion center, 597 00:42:23.219 --> 00:42:28.780 yeah, and began the process to kill those twins and from what we know, 598 00:42:29.300 --> 00:42:31.409 she went through it. But happened. So it's so discouraging. But 599 00:42:31.690 --> 00:42:35.610 you know, I want to read a verse that, or maybe you can 600 00:42:35.650 --> 00:42:39.289 read it. It's Second Corinthians twelve, yeah, versus nine through ten, 601 00:42:39.409 --> 00:42:49.280 because ultimately, I think what every sidewalk counselor will discover is that we cannot 602 00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:53.440 do this it in our own strength through just simply cannot. We are weak, 603 00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:59.389 we are only out there and able to withstand the highs and the lows 604 00:42:59.469 --> 00:43:04.829 and stories like this that could just cause such despair that we would quit. 605 00:43:05.230 --> 00:43:09.030 The only reason we don't is Christ, yeah, and and our allegiance to 606 00:43:09.110 --> 00:43:14.059 him and our belief that he has called us to this word. Yeah, 607 00:43:14.179 --> 00:43:19.659 absolutely. So this is the second or Second Corinthians twelve versus none through ten. 608 00:43:20.340 --> 00:43:22.059 And this is the Apostle Paul. He says and he said to me, 609 00:43:22.619 --> 00:43:27.730 my grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness. 610 00:43:28.369 --> 00:43:31.610 Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast in my weaknesses so that the 611 00:43:31.650 --> 00:43:37.449 power of Christ may dwell in me. Therefore, I'm well content with weakness, 612 00:43:37.929 --> 00:43:42.000 with insults, with distresses, with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ's 613 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.239 sake, for when I am weak, then I am strong. Yeah, 614 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:50.159 and this is the the heart of the believer, right, that we understand 615 00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:54.280 that we need the Lord. This is John Chapter Fifteen. Jesus said I 616 00:43:54.360 --> 00:44:00.550 am the vine, you are the branches right apart from me. You can 617 00:44:00.630 --> 00:44:05.469 do nothing. The branches must have abide in the vine and then we'll bear 618 00:44:05.550 --> 00:44:08.230 fruit. And so I on't encourage you guys, as you're out there on 619 00:44:08.269 --> 00:44:14.980 the sidewalk and there's the stories, these discouraging stories come up and maybe you're 620 00:44:15.019 --> 00:44:17.340 looking at what's going on at other cities. You're looking on what's going on 621 00:44:17.500 --> 00:44:22.699 here in Charlotte or or wherever else, and God's doing some amazing things across 622 00:44:22.739 --> 00:44:24.889 the nation, across the world, and Pro Life Ministry, Praise God for 623 00:44:25.010 --> 00:44:28.369 that. You're looking at some of that and you're like, well, that's 624 00:44:28.409 --> 00:44:31.409 not happening here or why? I had some stories I thought were good, 625 00:44:31.449 --> 00:44:34.369 but they didn't turn out so good. I want to encourage you these. 626 00:44:35.010 --> 00:44:37.760 We're all dealing with those, we all have those struggles, we all have 627 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:43.320 those situations we have to deal with, but we have to stay tapped into 628 00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.320 the true vine. We have to be motivated by love for God first and 629 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.960 then, I of that flows a love for our neighbor, and we can 630 00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:54.469 remain faithful even in these difficult situations, even through these difficult stories that didn't 631 00:44:54.469 --> 00:44:58.670 turn out so good, because, after all, again it it's not about 632 00:44:58.670 --> 00:45:01.469 us, it's about the Lord, and we're called to be his hands, 633 00:45:01.550 --> 00:45:06.070 his feet and to be a voice for the voiceless, whether people are going 634 00:45:06.150 --> 00:45:08.980 to listen or not. That's right. So, with that guy's hope, 635 00:45:08.980 --> 00:45:13.219 you were encouraged. I hope this was a blessing to you. I hope 636 00:45:13.260 --> 00:45:15.179 that you will share this podcast and I hope that you will leave us a 637 00:45:15.300 --> 00:45:20.059 review. 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You can reach her at Vcasti Orgat cities for lifecom 646 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:53.710 still, and we'd love to hear some suggestions of podcasts, some suggestions of 647 00:45:53.789 --> 00:45:57.949 things that maybe we could change in the podcast, maybe some things that we've 648 00:45:57.949 --> 00:46:00.309 done in the past you'd like for us to do again. Maybe liked US 649 00:46:00.389 --> 00:46:04.030 reading some of the pro abortion reviews and you want to hear more of that. 650 00:46:04.340 --> 00:46:06.739 There's plenty of them, so we can real a lot of them. 651 00:46:07.380 --> 00:46:09.500 But again, we hope this was a blessing you, guys, and until 652 00:46:09.539 --> 00:46:22.489 next time, God bless give me our love for love, give me our 653 00:46:22.809 --> 00:46:34.840 love for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too 654 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:37.320 precious and some that you