June 16, 2022

Ministering At Abortion Pill Only Clinics

Ministering At Abortion Pill Only Clinics

The abortion pill is becoming the most common abortion procedure in the US. Many clinics do both surgical and pill abortions but some do only the abortion pill. This presents some unique challenges. In this episode, we talk about those unique challenges and some strategies to overcome them.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.480 One young lady pulled over to the side of the road. She was just 2 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:05.240 going back and forth in her mind. What did I just do? And 3 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:09.240 then she remembered. She saw a sign all abortion polly ourscom. She pulls 4 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:11.880 over the side of the road, Google's IT, gets connected with the abortion 5 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:15.599 pill folks. They connect her with my wife. She ends up getting the 6 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:19.760 abortion polty reversal. Her babies now said babies. She was having twins. 7 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:25.320 Her babies lives were saved. I Am Yours, I am yours, I 8 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:31.440 am yours, and me, Lord, I am yours, I am yours. 9 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:36.039 I'm welcome to the Gospel Center Prey Life Podcast, a podcast designed to 10 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:41.600 equip, encourage and challenge you in pro life ministry and always were the focus 11 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:50.359 on the Gospel. Stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. 12 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:58.679 Use Welcome back to the Gospel centered pro life podcasts. As always, 13 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:02.719 we appreciate you guys, joining us with this podcast episode. My name is 14 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:06.560 Daniel Parks. I am the West Coast Regional Shepherd for love life, overseeing 15 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:11.560 our efforts on the west coast. I am joined with Vicky cassie Org say 16 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:17.000 hey Vicki hey everyone, and we co host this Podcast, the Gospel Center 17 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.560 pro life podcast, in an effort to encourage and equip those who are doing 18 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.200 ministry on the sidewalks at abortion centers. It's not all that love life does. 19 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.120 We do a lot of other things, but it's one of, I 20 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:32.280 believe, the most important aspects that were involved in reaching out there at those 21 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:36.959 last moments of that baby's life, pleading on behalf of that baby, with 22 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:40.439 that mother to choose life for her baby and with the fathers as well, 23 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:44.760 ministering the Gospel. I'll just encourage you guys with something that we've seen, 24 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:48.840 especially that I've been able to see on the west coast over the past couple 25 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:53.079 of months, is an increased in salvations and increases coming to the Lord. 26 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.920 Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, there was a week, just a couple 27 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:01.040 of weeks ago, where five people, that's amazing, surrender their life to 28 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:06.760 Jesus. Yeah, or near the abortion center. Now will say that it's 29 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.280 not all people going into the abortion center. Some of these abortion centers, 30 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.960 that a lot of abortion centers are on busy roads. Right latrobe over here 31 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:15.759 is not. It's kind of tucked away in a business park, but some 32 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:20.639 of these abortion centers in California, all across the United States, New York, 33 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:23.400 you know, you're just up there not long ago. You have passers 34 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:25.840 by, people that are coming by. Well, that's what's happening some in 35 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:30.319 southern California, people that are coming by. Trash guy comes to pick up 36 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:35.319 the trash from business behind the abortion center. Something team ministers him. Now, 37 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.680 we know our primary focus is the mom's going into the abortion center, 38 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:42.680 but if there's no one to engage with, why not share the Gospel with 39 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:45.520 the trash guy or whoever? You know, we we're creating a culture of 40 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:47.240 life. That's what I tell all of our councers as we're talking to people 41 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:52.599 going by that aren't our ministry. Obviously don't lose focus. Yeah, a 42 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:55.199 mom is there, but these other people. You are creating a culture of 43 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:59.039 life, which is the yeah, that is what we want to do. 44 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:01.159 We have love like the ministry. Yeah, it's pretty cool. So that's 45 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:05.759 just wanted to mention that because God's doing some amazing things. As Ministry is 46 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:08.960 not just, I'll say, just about saving babies. It's about proclaiming the 47 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:14.599 Gospel and we've done episodes about that. Will probably do more episodes about that. 48 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:19.280 That's not what this episode is about, though. This episode is talking 49 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:25.199 particularly about how to minister at abortion centers that only do the abortion pill. 50 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:30.199 Right. So the latrobe abortion center here that we're well acquainted with, that 51 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:34.520 we do ministry at on a regular basis. Our teams are here. They 52 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:38.599 do the abortion pill but also do surgical abortions up to twenty weeks. The 53 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:40.199 window of abortion center, I believe, all of the abortion center, not 54 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:44.879 a believe, I know all the abortion centers in Charlotte do both surgical abortions 55 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:51.159 and medical abortions or the abortion pill, and so we don't have that context 56 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:53.879 here in Charlotte, but we you and I and others have ministered at abortion 57 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:58.840 centers and we have teams all across the United States now that are ministering at 58 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:04.719 abortion centers that are kind of uniquely geared toward just doing the abortion pill. 59 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:10.199 And there's some challenges there. There's some challenges that are presented and so we 60 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.479 want to talk about those challenges and we want to talk about how to overcome 61 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:17.240 those challenges and, yeah, maybe even talk about some of the things that 62 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:21.040 are necessary for you to know. It's important that we know how the abortion 63 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:25.480 pill works. If you've attended any of our trainings. We talked about that 64 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:29.680 in our one, U two training and just kind of get into what the 65 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.160 Abord pill is if you listen to this podcast. Hopefully you listen to it. 66 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:36.199 We did two episodes, two separate episodes, about the abortion pill really 67 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:41.680 drill into what it's all about. My wife, who's an abortion party versial 68 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:45.839 nerves, did one of those episodes and then Dr Matt, who pioneer the 69 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:50.319 abortion pill reversal process here in Charlotte was, did another episode. who definitely 70 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:55.199 listen to those episodes. But this is going to be more how to minister 71 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:58.439 at these clinics. Right. But it is important that you know how the 72 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:01.959 abortion pill works, what the procedure is, and I really do want to 73 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:05.040 say this. I mentioned before we started recording. This is important to always 74 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:10.399 have to mention this every time because people are confused about this. Right. 75 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:15.519 The abortion pill and the morning after pill are two different things. They're not 76 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:21.639 the same thing. The morning after pill could be abortive. It's a medications, 77 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:27.079 actually just a bunch of birth control in a sense that a woman takes 78 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.120 if she had unprotected sex and doesn't want to get pregnant. It's primary function 79 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.800 is to keep her from getting pregnants, keep her from ovulating. I won't 80 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.600 get into all the the nitty gritty details of that. You guys can look 81 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:41.959 it up, but it's primary function is to keep her from getting pregnant. 82 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:46.199 It could be abortive if she does get pregnant in spite of its the medications 83 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:50.199 efforts to keep it from getting pregnant. It could abort a child that's been 84 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:56.399 conceived, keep it from implanting into her uterus. But it's not always abortive 85 00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:00.120 and it's not it's a primary function. The abortion pill, how ever, 86 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.240 in the morning after pill that you would take twenty four to forty eight hours 87 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:08.399 after you had unprotected sex. With the abortion pill, though, the abortion 88 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:12.120 pill is not actually just an abortion pill. It's not just one medication. 89 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.720 It's to medications. Go back and listen to those episodes again. You'll hear 90 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:20.279 all of this. Probably already heard this before, hopefully, but it's a 91 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:25.639 procedure. So it's one medication they give them inside of the clinic and then 92 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:30.160 a medication that they have them take at home. Now every state's different. 93 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.240 North Carolina, you have to go to a clinic, you have to have 94 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:40.160 had an ultrasound at a clinic. You have to have a doctorate minister the 95 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:45.360 medication, the abortion pill medication. In other states like California, now, 96 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:49.879 I think Washington State, pretty sure, Colorado, Maryland, I don't know 97 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:54.000 all of the states, New York, but you know the north left, 98 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:58.000 leftist states. Right, you can get the abortion pill by mail. Yeah, 99 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.560 and it doesn't have to be at ministered by doctor. In some states 100 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:01.959 where you can't get it by mail but you have to go to a clinic 101 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:06.399 to get it, it can be ministered by a nurse practitioner or urn as 102 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:10.800 long as they have a doctor sign off on it. So I don't know 103 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.000 all the INS and outs of every state. You'll you guys will have to 104 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.319 dig into that. But what we do know, because we do know that 105 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:21.279 there's some some particular ways that we could reach out at those clinics. So 106 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:27.000 I'll let you jump into that. Yeah. Well, one of the things 107 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:30.680 that that we wanted to point out right from the beginning that that we need 108 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:36.680 to be familiar with the pill abortion, yeah, but also that there is 109 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:42.720 an aftermath that is terrible and I just what we wrote an article that goes 110 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.519 with this and one of the things. I was just rereading one of my 111 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:49.000 first paragraphs and remembering, I think this happened in New York, a young 112 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:56.360 lady who took the pill up the end and she was being counseled and at 113 00:07:56.399 --> 00:08:00.639 first thought about reversing it, thought about choosing life and in the end did 114 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:05.079 not took the second set of pills which caused the contractions and she actually did 115 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:11.279 have the baby in the toilet. Yeah, and it was a recognizable little 116 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:16.959 baby and she was so devastated and wish that she had listened to us. 117 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.800 So we're going to talk, I think, more later about really how serious 118 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:28.319 it is. Yeah, to take the pill. But but yet, if 119 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:33.279 we know that someone has taken the abortion pill, there are things that we 120 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:39.480 are always going to call out. Yeah, and particularly afterwards, but even 121 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:46.000 before they go in. So, knowing what what you just described and knowing 122 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:52.799 what I just described, we're going to call out what happens in a pill 123 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.919 abortion, because they will not hear that from the clinic. I know for 124 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.840 a fact because I've talked to women who who have taken the pill who told 125 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:05.919 me the clinic told them nothing about the severity of the crampain right or the 126 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.919 severity of the clotting, the blood clots that they were going to pass, 127 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:16.679 yeah, or the fact that they could actually deliver an identifiable baby, right, 128 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:22.159 and it's devastating that could be. I cannot imagine. Right. So 129 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.600 when we know all that, that's kind of the first thing. Is exactly 130 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:31.759 what you said. Know what happens in a pill abortion really familiar and be 131 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.039 familiar in the aftermath of the things that can happen, because those are the 132 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:39.279 sorts of things you're going to want to warn the women about. Yeah, 133 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.320 guaranteed, they're being lied to, or they were. It's being just emitted. 134 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.159 They're not being told any of this. Yeah, I know, and 135 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.799 I'm actually looking right now and I can't find it, but you used to 136 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:54.360 go on Plant parenthood's website and they had a side effects sheet that had to 137 00:09:54.399 --> 00:10:00.279 do with mifapristone. Right, that's the first medication they give them inside of 138 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:03.879 the abortion clinic, and some of the side effects, as it gets into 139 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:07.240 the kind of the fine print details, is one out of five hundred women 140 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:13.440 that go through with the abortion pill procedure will require a blood transfusion. One 141 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.639 out of five hundred. That's and that's serious. Yeah, a blood transfusion. 142 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:22.120 That is serious. That's because they're bleeding so much they the it causes 143 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:26.200 hemorrhachain. Yeah, it can cause hemorrh chain and so it's it can be 144 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:33.320 very violent. Yeah, very violent to aftermath of having the pill. Warning 145 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.000 them. I think about that story that I just told you, right, 146 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:45.159 you may see your intact child delivered in the toilet. Yeah, imagine how 147 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:50.759 you would feel painting that picture. And that's not just playing on someone's emotions, 148 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:56.600 that is painting the truth, that is portraying what is really lot possible. 149 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:00.759 Yeah, and not infrequent. That can that can happen. Yeah, 150 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.759 that's so. So that's the first thing, is knowing about the pill and 151 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:07.919 being able to call out, you know, the warning of what the what 152 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:13.919 can happen. Yeah, but the second thing is knowing that it can be 153 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:18.399 reversed, right, and being familiar, yeah, about that process. Yeah, 154 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.080 and I would encourage all of you guys to go on Google search abortion 155 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.320 pill reversal and get abortion po reversalcom. That's where we send women who want 156 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:31.120 to do the abortion pil reversal. But on that website is information about the 157 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:35.279 abortion pill reversal. What it is we've had a lot of pro abortion people 158 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.720 accuse us we're putting women in lot in harms way, putting their lives at 159 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:43.080 risk. Yeah, by encouraging the do to the to do the abortion Pel 160 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.519 reversal. And when I asked the pro abortion people, okay, do you 161 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:52.080 know what the abortion pill reversal is like? You're staunchly opposed to this thing, 162 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.360 but do you know what it even is? What it is is they've 163 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.279 heard it from somebody that heard it from somebody. Then there was a study 164 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.919 that was done that they had to stop and Dr Matt Talks about that and 165 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.399 our podcast with him. Go back and listen to it. That study was 166 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.759 bunk. But they don't even know what the abortion pill reversal is. It's 167 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:16.440 just pogesterone right. It's flooding the woman's body with pogesterone. Not Unlike what 168 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.120 they do when a woman has frequent miscarriages. They minister progesterone to her when 169 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.399 she gets pregnant so she doesn't have a miscarriage or if she's in the midst 170 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.000 of a miscarriage. They've been doctors that a minister progesterone. progesterones are pretty 171 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:35.399 common thing. That's given to women in pregnancy and are their risks? Absolutely, 172 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:39.200 there's really with everything. It's the hormone that the woman's body is naturally 173 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.679 producing to protect, you know, and at once you're pregnant. That's what 174 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:48.919 your body is producing in order to sustain, build, the lining of the 175 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:54.440 uters, all of that and and nurturing sustain the the pregnancy. And, 176 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:56.519 by the way, another thing that you will hear all the time from the 177 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:01.759 pro abortion people is it's not FDA approved. Right. Well, they are 178 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:09.240 technically accurate. It is not FDA approved for the use as reversal of the 179 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.159 pill abortion. Yeah, but it is FDA approved and has been for years 180 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.799 in the treatment of miscarriage. Right. And it's really the same sort of 181 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:24.559 thing, which is why Dr Matt suggested or came up with this what he 182 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:28.799 calls the download from heaven. Yeah, was the the abortion pill cuts off 183 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:33.879 progester own and it, I guess it depletes it, but it at least 184 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.679 it, it inhibits the action of progesterone. Yeah, and that's why the 185 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:43.600 the pregnancy is terminated in with the abortion pill, but the the abortion pill 186 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:48.200 reversal just floods that back back in, the right. Yeah, a natural 187 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:54.039 hormone that we're the woman's body should have been producing. We're actually instead of 188 00:13:54.120 --> 00:14:00.440 with abortion pool reversal. It's the opposite of what the pro abortion crowd are 189 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:05.039 saying, because the natural thing is for the body to continue to produce progesterone. 190 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:11.559 They have unnaturally stopped that with the abortion paill. Yeah, yeah, 191 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:16.279 it's important to know how effective. That's one of the questions that you'll get 192 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.440 from Mom's and right from Dad's. The minister to well, if I do 193 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:24.120 that, is my baby going to certainly be saved? Listen, one of 194 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:26.720 the things we can't promise is if you do the abortion pill reversal, your 195 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:31.360 baby's absolutely going to be saved. You can't make that promise. Right, 196 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:35.279 it's only about sixty percent effective. Sixty six percent effective, I think. 197 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:41.240 Yeah, is the higher end of what they've seen. And still that's given 198 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:45.360 that child a chance, still giving that mother a chance to go back on 199 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:48.759 a decision that she regrets. Do Women regret taking the abortion pill? Heck 200 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.480 yes, they do. Yeah, right, and if we can give them 201 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.159 an opportunity again, I'm not going to give the pro choice people too much. 202 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:01.240 Are On our podcast here, but you know, they claim to be 203 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:03.919 pro choice. If a woman decides that she no longer wants the effects of 204 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:09.039 the medication she took, if she chooses to turn back on her abortion procedure 205 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:13.679 while it's in process, would in the pro choice people support that choice to 206 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.519 go back on that decision, you would think, if they were truly pro 207 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:22.879 pro choice? So it's another question that women ask frequently. I've I have 208 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:28.759 been one of the counselors for several abortion pill reversals. Yeah, so one 209 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:31.279 of the things they ask a lot as will the baby be deformed? Right, 210 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:35.639 will the baby be born with problems? And they they have done studies 211 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:39.440 and there is no evidence of that at all. Yeah, the baby will 212 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:46.000 have the same risk of problems as any pregnancy. Sure, normal pregnancy, 213 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:50.440 not being interrupted and going to term. Yeah, because, again, pogesterone 214 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.320 is a natural for moon that's in her body, right, and you're just 215 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:56.440 kind of putting that back right, because the if of pristone is a pogesterone 216 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:00.080 blocker. It blocks the action of the POGESTERONE. Yeah, and so again 217 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:04.799 you're just flooding her body with pogesterone to overcome the effects of that pogesterone blocker 218 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:11.679 and because the pro socalled pro choice group, is probably going to be vocal 219 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.080 and out there. For all of you minis during at a facility that does 220 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:22.120 pill abortions it, I think it is really critical that you read that research 221 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.039 study and that you listen to our podcast regarding that, because the women are 222 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:32.720 going to be told that and they are told once you take that first pill 223 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:37.440 you must complete the abortion and take the pills the second day or you're in 224 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:42.440 danger. That is not true, right, and of that research that they're 225 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:48.559 going to miss quote and say if you try the abortion pill reversal you could 226 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:52.039 die, you could hemorrhage. Well, the people were hemorrhaging not from the 227 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:59.320 abortion pill reversal the projesterm, they were hemorrhaging from the abortion pill. Yeah, 228 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:03.519 so if you don't know that, then you're not going to be able 229 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.000 to call out effectively to the women countering the lies that they are going to 230 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:12.519 hear. Yeah, so really, really important know those facts right. One 231 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:18.880 of the next things that that we really want to make sure people ministering at 232 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:23.880 abortion facilities that only do the pill is be very careful about the timing of 233 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:29.480 calling out. We've already talked about the timing of on many podcasts. Timing 234 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:34.440 of calling out about God's forgiveness, the timing of calling out about the abortion 235 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:38.960 pill reversal is tricky, right. Yeah, you got to be careful. 236 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:42.799 Yeah, so what you don't want to do is you don't want to give 237 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:47.440 that woman something she can grasp. You've heard me say this before. These 238 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:52.960 women are grasping for one of two things simultaneously. They're grasping for a justification 239 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:57.599 to go in and abort their child and they're grasping for justification to leave the 240 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:02.359 abortion clinic and never come back. They're grasping at these two things at the 241 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:06.519 same time and we don't want to tip the scale and kind of give them 242 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:08.200 a grasp on well, if I can go in here and just take the 243 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:12.119 abortion pill and if I want to reverse it later, I can. So 244 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:15.960 you don't want to ask they're walking into the abortion center or as you're having 245 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:19.680 a one on one conversation and they're talking about taking the abortion pill. You 246 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.400 don't want to say well, you know, if you do take it, 247 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.920 it can be reversed. That's not a good time to do that because then 248 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:30.319 you're giving them a justification to go ahead with the abortion pill. thinking, 249 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.279 well, if I change my mind, I can reverse it, but if 250 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:36.359 not, I can go through with it when it's really only a sixty percent 251 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:40.599 effective anyway. Right. Yeah, and so I think it is careful. 252 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:45.079 We it is careful. It is important that we're we are careful as when 253 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.119 they're walking in, they're going into the abortion center, we're not calling out 254 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:52.039 abortion pill reversal. Like I can imagine a scenario. Ones walking into the 255 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:56.039 abortion center from her car across the parking lot and you call out, don't 256 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:57.160 go in there and take the life of your baby. Your baby is made 257 00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:00.640 in the image of God. We have resources to help you, but if 258 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.839 you do take the abortion pill, go to abortion per reversalcom. You don't 259 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.240 want to do that because you don't want her to grasp on that, like 260 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:10.200 okay, I can do it and I can do that. You really want 261 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:14.279 to time it when they're coming out after they've taken the abortion pill, and 262 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:17.920 then you want to kind of abortion pill reversalcom. Like I say, I 263 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:21.680 kind of try to indoctrinate that into their heads as they're coming out, exportion 264 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:25.920 REVERSALCOM, go to abortion P reversalcom. Keep on clicking, keep on hitting 265 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:30.240 on that so that maybe it'll put something in the in their mind to actually 266 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:32.960 get to the website as their own, their way back home. Right, 267 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.279 and you may think that this is far fetched, but I had this happened 268 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:40.759 not all that long ago where a woman said just that, oh, there's 269 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:45.039 abortion pill reversal. She saw our sign which which we had we had not 270 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:47.640 called it out. Then said, well then I'll go in, I don't 271 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:49.119 worry, I'm going to go in and I'll take the pill, but now 272 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.279 I know I can reverse it, so if I feel bad, I'll come 273 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:55.920 back out and talk with you about that. So we know it happens. 274 00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:00.400 I know the tension in the heart of counselors that want to call it out 275 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.640 as they're going in is yeah, but what if we're not here when they 276 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:07.079 come out? Whatever, I get that, but while that baby's life is 277 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:11.480 on the line, every message that they are hearing, I think, has 278 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.920 to be the justification for life. Yeah, and not giving the rationale for 279 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:21.920 why they, you know, they should kill the baby. Yeah, absolutely. 280 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:26.039 So the next major thing I think, to think about when you're ministering 281 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:34.079 only at an abortion pill center would be the the lies in the mindset about 282 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:37.400 what the women are going to be told, right, and the mindset of 283 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:44.119 that woman about what she thinks about the pill as maybe not as serious as 284 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:48.279 other forms of abortion. Yeah, yet we have the understand too, that 285 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:53.039 the abortion pill is just as much an abortion as a surgical abortion. Right, 286 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.920 right. It's still kills a living child. That's the reality of it. 287 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.640 Now it may be sanitized cleaned up a little bit more, it's it's 288 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:04.559 not a surgical procedure that happens inside of the clinic. It is something that 289 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:08.640 happens at home and it's pretty gruesome actually. Yeah, I think you have 290 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:14.359 in this article to encourage folks to go on Youtube and watch the video from 291 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:18.519 the Abbey Johnson movie unplanned. There's actually an abortion pill procedure carried through. 292 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:22.519 Abbe Johnson took the abortion pill in that movie in real life is based on 293 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:27.519 her life and the way that's depicted is actually pretty accurate and pretty gruesome. 294 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:33.119 Yeah, I think understanding that and trying to convey that to the women who 295 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:36.519 think that it's just a peal. It's this magic peel. you swallow this 296 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:38.720 peel, your baby disappears and you go on with your life and no harm, 297 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:42.279 no foul it's not that. Actually it's a lot more gruesome, right, 298 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:47.839 and helping them understand that I think takes away that that fig leaf, 299 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:52.039 that lie, that's it's it's something different than an abortion, like it's just 300 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.039 again, a magic peal that you take. Yeah, yeah, so addressing 301 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:02.599 that directly, addressing the the MOM's mindset that that has been lied to and 302 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:07.759 and trying to correct those those lies, is really important. When they do 303 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:12.720 come out and we're telling them about the reversal process again, it's important to 304 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:18.400 know the process because they will ask not only the questions we've already addressed, 305 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.519 but don't say, well, what happened? One of the first things that 306 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:25.480 I often forget to call out and it is important to call out. It's 307 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:29.960 free. Yeah, it is free. The process is free, the pills 308 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:36.240 are free, but but the actual process of what happens if they did it, 309 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:37.799 first of all, they're going to go to that website, right, 310 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:41.759 and your wife does this, so you want to you know what happens, 311 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.279 right and when that process? Yes, so, ultimately, on the abortion 312 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:48.039 Pol reversialcom website there's a chat feature on there. I think they can go 313 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:52.319 and text and chat or they can call the number. But ultimately what happens 314 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:56.200 is they get connected to a local pregnancy center that does abortion p reversals or 315 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:00.519 a doctor, because there are some doctors offices now that do the abortion pill 316 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.680 reversal. So that hot line is kind of a way to get their information, 317 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.799 find out what their situation is and then hand them off to a local 318 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.559 pregnancy center's Charlotte, they're going to be handed off to one of the pregnancy 319 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:17.599 centers here, likely be my wife doing the abortion pil reversal, and there's 320 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:22.119 I think it's important for you, as a sidewall counselor to know is there 321 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.119 a pregnancy center neil nearby that does the abortion pill reversal? Because some pregnancy 322 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:29.599 centers it's good, I think, for them to call that hot line to 323 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:33.119 go on abortion reversalcom but it's even better if they can go directly to the 324 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:38.880 pregnancy center and begin that process right there. Yeah, so it's good that 325 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:42.160 you know where the pregnancy centers are. Maybe you have a couple pregnancy centers 326 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:48.279 in your area and one of them does abortion pty reversals and the others don't. 327 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:51.839 It'd be good for you to know which, which center does the abortion 328 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:55.079 pery reversals. So you can refer them there if you can counterwoman at the 329 00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:57.559 abortion center. Yeah, that that wants to do that right. So, 330 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:03.079 once they go go to the to the pregnancy resource center, they will look 331 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:07.039 for the baby's heartbeat. They're not going to administer the pill and the reversal 332 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:11.599 progesterone. And unless they find the heartbeat they need to know the babies alive 333 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:17.519 still and and then if they find the heartbeat they'll go ahead and start the 334 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:22.759 progesterone and the woman who is encouraged to take that for the first trimester, 335 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:27.000 your first twelve weeks, and many of them are of Chris, going to 336 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:32.079 go back to the doctor, sometimes, sadly, the doctor that referred them 337 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:37.279 for the abortion. Not all doctors are on board for abortion who reversal. 338 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:41.599 So it's important to know who dot who the doctors in your area are that 339 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.519 maybe you could refer a mom to, yeah, if her own doctor is 340 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:48.880 not going to be supportive of it. But a point that I don't think 341 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.279 I make in this article, and it is so important. If a MOM 342 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.920 has stopped, they've told you that they are going to go for the abortion, 343 00:24:55.920 --> 00:25:00.039 pooll reversal, get their name and number and follow through, because I've 344 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.920 had both things happen, where the baby survives and I'm able to share the 345 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:08.960 Gospel and I'm able to set up a mentorship and provide resources, but I've 346 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:14.519 also had the situation where the baby dies. Yeah, and to have someone 347 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:22.559 who is going to be able to Speak Comfort from a Gospel perspective into that 348 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:29.160 horrible situation is really important, because these women are going to feel a lot 349 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:33.960 of guilt. Yeah, and and maybe in some ways it's almost worse because 350 00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:37.400 they went, they they did go to kill their baby. They really are 351 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:42.799 responsible. However, they did their best to then right, do the right 352 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:48.279 thing. Why weren't they rewarded for that? I think it's a really common 353 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:53.839 question and I think all of us need to be ready right to speak into 354 00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:59.240 that right because it's not a hundred percent effective. No, no, you 355 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:00.920 know, I will say, and this is what my wife does when she 356 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.960 ministers to them, because she's had two minister to quite a few that lost 357 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:08.160 the baby. Yeah, at least you tried. At least you tried to 358 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:12.000 do what you can. Are you responsible in some measure? Will certainly, 359 00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:18.839 but you tried to undo it and for whatever reason it didn't happen. Yeah, 360 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.920 and so you can't beat yourself up. You can't. You can't undo 361 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.200 the past and you can, of course, we need to point them toward 362 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.480 the forgiveness that comes through Jesus, if that would ent put their trust in 363 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.799 him. At that point that woman's already broken and it's really easily too easy 364 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:40.359 to Minister The Gospel to her. So I want to kind of shift gears 365 00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:44.480 a bit in the last couple of minutes and I know we've got a few 366 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.480 more points that we want to touch on this but I want to talk about 367 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:52.599 some practical stuff. Just practically speaking. You're standing, you have a team 368 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:55.319 that's in front of the Abortion Center to plan parenthood. They only do the 369 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:59.960 abortion pills. or it's another FPA those ro out in the West Coast or 370 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.599 that are privately owned abortion clinics that only do the abortion pell I think there's 371 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.319 one in Winston Salem. It's like a private doctor's office that only does the 372 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:11.440 abortion pills and you're there reaching out. What are some of the kind of 373 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.920 a sensual things I think we've already touched on. Really the essential things is 374 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.319 knowing the procedure but also being able to convey that reality. I think one 375 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.480 of the things that you would say in calling out if you know it's an 376 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:27.599 abortion pill place is to say that an abortion pill is just as much an 377 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:33.680 abortion as a surgical abortion. That baby still going to die. Abortion pill 378 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.000 is going to stop your baby's heart from beating. I would say too in 379 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.680 essential part of your ministry is going to be literature, getting literature into their 380 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.440 hands. The hope is here literature that we use. It has in the 381 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.039 middle part of it the explanation of the abortion pill, so they get that. 382 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.240 Hopefully they get that going in. They read it, they're astounded by, 383 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.480 okay, this is actually an abortion, I'm going to kill my child, 384 00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.000 and they change their mind. On the back of that is the abortion 385 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:03.960 pill reversal website right so they can get connected there. I think essential things 386 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:08.759 are when they're coming out, always mention abortion pill reversal when they're coming out 387 00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.319 and there's some things you can pick up on. There's some patterns you can 388 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.599 pick up on. I know one of the patterns here in Charlotte, at 389 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:18.799 Latrobe is we knew the abortion pill people when we saw the abortion the abortionist 390 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.440 get here about fifteen minutes after the abortionist arrives, there would be a flood 391 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.440 of people to come out. We knew that those are the abortion pill people 392 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:27.200 because that we had a few interactions with those people and we kind of picked 393 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.319 up on the pattern. These are the abortion peel right at the window over 394 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.200 clinic. They picked up on a pattern and they talked to a few people 395 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:37.599 coming out. If they came out with a pink bag, they knew that 396 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.160 those were abortion peel people. In that pink bag was the medication they give 397 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.119 them take it home. So maybe you know. Definitely having conversations with people 398 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.279 as they're coming out and being very observant. If you see a common thing, 399 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.799 maybe a different colored slip of paper, you can maybe identify ocause that 400 00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.799 somebody it took the abortion bill. Hey, look at patterns and things like 401 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:03.279 that. But when end doubt, plug them. Plug the abortion pill reversal 402 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:08.359 website. Go to abortion per reversalcom and I would say signage is really important. 403 00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.960 Right. We don't want to plug the abortion pill reversal while they're going 404 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.799 in. We already talked about that. But you can't mitigate all of that. 405 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.200 Right. Some people going in are going to hear you calling that out 406 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.160 to people going out. Do the best you can with that. Some people 407 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:22.480 are going to like your story. They're going to see the sign while they're 408 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.039 going in. there. There only so much you can do, Hey, 409 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.119 but I do think positioning your sign. It says abortion pill reversalcom. It 410 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.079 could just say abortion pill reversalcom like. That's that website itself. The web 411 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.359 address is pretty self explanatory. Yep, but you can put other things. 412 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.960 Like the signage that we use in love life is abortion pill regrets. I 413 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:44.799 think that's what it says. Yes, Suy a lady, abortion pill regrets, 414 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.240 abortion per reversalcom. Right, don't make it super detailed. If you're 415 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:51.920 not with love life and you're making your own signs, don't make it super 416 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.759 detailed. Do you regret having taken the abortion pill? That's a horrible decision. 417 00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:59.319 Abortion. Don't use a bunch of words, just abortion pill regrets. 418 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.720 Do you regret taking the abortion pill? That's maybe a little too long, 419 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:07.599 but the website itself, abortion pill reversalcom is key and I think having that 420 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.759 as they're coming out of the driveway, having that be like the first thing 421 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.599 they see, is really, really important. Whether you have someone hold that 422 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.799 sign are you have it positioned? Maybe like at the window over clinic. 423 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:23.200 Across the road is a tree, and so Elijah props up the sign on 424 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:26.279 that tree. So soon as they're pulling out, like they see that, 425 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.319 whether they're taking a left or right, they have to look straight ahead at 426 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.759 that sign and it's talking about the abortion pill reversal. Right, right, 427 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:38.759 yeah, so as you're calling out abortion pill reversacom and I will also add 428 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:44.680 it's free. Yeah, it's effective most of the time, because it's over 429 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.240 half of the time. It is effective and it's free. It's effective and 430 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:52.119 it's safe. Yeah, we know that. It's true for the for the 431 00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.039 mom so I recall that out also to kind of clear that up. Yeah, 432 00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.680 yeah, now I would say because you don't know who's going in for 433 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.000 what, especially you're a plan parenthood. We've talked about this. We did 434 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:08.799 an episode about ministering at places that do other things than abortions, the abortion 435 00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.640 pill, like with the surgical abortion, you can tell if they're going in 436 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.640 for, especially a later term surgical abortion. They'll be dressed in a certain 437 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.480 way. They're dressed with baggy pants, right. Sometimes you can see a 438 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:23.039 baby bump, all that stuff. There's some indicators there that they're going in 439 00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:26.440 for an abortion with the abortion pill. There's not a lot of indicators. 440 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.599 Yeah. So and plus, at a lot of these clinics that do only 441 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:37.039 the abortion pill you can't really tell what times of day they're coming in because 442 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.160 they can come throughout the entire day to take the abortion pill. At most 443 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.119 abortion centers that are doing surgical abortions, you can kind of pick up on 444 00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.960 a flow of things. Most of the time the surgical abortion patients are coming 445 00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.559 in and in the morning and they'll have particular days of the week. Like 446 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.359 some plant parenthoods, the one here in Charlotte, they only do abortions on 447 00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.839 Tuesdays and Fridays, right, and we know that through different means. You 448 00:31:59.880 --> 00:32:01.640 can find that stuff out. You guys get creative. You can actually go 449 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:06.960 on their website and see what days they allow abortion appointments for some plant parenthoods 450 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:12.000 and some FBA clinics as well. And so, however you can find that 451 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.319 information that. That's great, but you can't really easily find that information at 452 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:20.640 these abortion clinics that only do the abortion pill. So I think you have 453 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.960 to ask the Lord to give you wisdom and then you have to just assume 454 00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:29.160 that everyone is there for an abortion pill and less given a reason to believe 455 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.720 otherwise. Hey, and so when I call out especially amount of place that 456 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:37.400 does things other than abortions, whether it's surgical abortions or abortion pills, I'm 457 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.880 going to call out if you're here for an abortion and then I'm going to 458 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.839 go into my spiell. Hey, if you're here to take the abortion pill, 459 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.359 like if I knew this place only does abortion pills, the more specific 460 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.279 I can be the better. And so I would say something like, if 461 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.640 you're here to take the abortion pill, please know that your baby is alive 462 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.440 and the abortion pill is just as much an abortion as a surgical abortion. 463 00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.279 We have helped for you. Please come over and talk with me. Yeah, 464 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.400 yeah, that would be kind of my normal, you know, ten 465 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.640 seconds, if you only be a two seconds, and remember, because you 466 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.319 do know, that if it's only abortion pilled, all those babies are ten 467 00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:14.960 weeks or under right in age. So very important to memorize as much as 468 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:20.000 you can the fetal facts, right development under ten weeks, because that's what 469 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.079 you would call out in terms of the humanity of the baby. Yeah, 470 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:28.119 since they you know, calling out about a above a ten week old baby 471 00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:31.000 is really not going to matter to them because they're trying to dehumanize the baby 472 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:34.240 and they're thinking, oh, yeah, but that's an older baby, my 473 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.000 baby's so tiny and whatever. So No, the developmental facts, there's plenty 474 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.559 of them. Yeah, that will show the humanity in the truth of that 475 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:45.200 that child. And of course, the things we always call out that that 476 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.440 child, from the moment of conception, is created by God in his holy 477 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:51.759 image and that's what gives that child, yeah, her sacred value. Yeah, 478 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.079 yeah, absolutely, I know. Just and I think we're about ready 479 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.359 to wrap up. Yeah, if you don't have anything else to add, 480 00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.480 but I will just say again by kind of by the way of practical advice, 481 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:06.200 if I had an abortion center where this is the Plant Parenthood and Charlotte, 482 00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:07.639 they do a surgery, they do surgical abortions, but kind of the 483 00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:12.320 flow of things is there's a way in to the abortion clinic and then there's 484 00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.559 a way out right, so they only go in one way and then only 485 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.199 go out another way, I would make sure I had someone position at that 486 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.079 out, you know, that exit right. Really focusing on the abortion pill. 487 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.920 Yeah, and the abortion pill reversal. Yeah, have literature in their 488 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.199 hands. Have a sign set up there. I would make sure a had 489 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.480 that covered at all times. Someone at the driveway going in and someone the 490 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.920 driveway going out. But that person of the driveway going out, they're going 491 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.239 to talk about abortion pill reversal. That's that's going to be their thing. 492 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:44.039 Did you take the abortion pill? Even if someone stops you take the abortion 493 00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.000 pill. Abortion pill reversalcom. Give them literature and then, of course go 494 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.119 into, you know, deeper conversation if you're able to. But you want 495 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:57.880 to plug that abortion pill reversalcom very much. We've had women go out coming 496 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.079 out of the driveway of the abortion center. They caught a glimpse of our 497 00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:07.239 sign or they heard something. They heard someone say abortion Pi Reversalcom. They 498 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.280 drove home. One young lady pulled over to the side of the road. 499 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.719 She was just going back and forth in her mind. What did I just 500 00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.159 do? And then she remembered she saw a sign all abortion pill reversecom. 501 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.760 She pulls over the side of the road, Google's IT, gets connected with 502 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.679 the abortion pill folks. They connect her with my wife. She ends up 503 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:27.719 getting the abortion pery reversal her babies. Now said babies. She was having 504 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.360 twins. Her baby's lives were saved and now she sends my wife a picture 505 00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:36.199 on their birthday every year. This has been like four years ago or something 506 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:40.519 and just amazing too precious lives that were saved right because someone was there with 507 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:45.960 a sign, someone was there reaching out. Another story were young lady heard 508 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:50.480 someone say the abortion pery reversal website as they were coming out, on our 509 00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.679 microphone actually, and that's what helped her to do the abortion p reversal. 510 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:59.480 So just hope that you guys are blessed by this podcast. Hope this was 511 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.679 an encouragement and hope this equipped you guys who are reaching out at these particular 512 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:07.360 abortion clinics. If you have feedback on this podcast or others, we'd love 513 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:08.719 to hear from you. You can reach out to me, Daniel, love 514 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.360 life dot org and reach her, Vicki, with a why I'd Love Life 515 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.559 Dot Org. We'd also appreciate if you guys would leave us a review on 516 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.800 apple podcast or whatever other podcast service that you use. That would be a 517 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:22.039 tremendous blessing to us. But until next time, God bless, godless you 518 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:36.519 all. Give me our love for love. Give me our love for gratitude. 519 00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:47.039 I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious, and 520 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:55.440 some met you