March 4, 2021

Is It Pro-life To Use Birth Control?

Is It Pro-life To Use Birth Control?

The issue of birth control is one that is rarely talked about in Christian circles. Many just assume it's ok and are uninformed about the potential harm it can do to unborn children. In this episode, we look at the subject of birth control from a...


The issue of birth control is one that is rarely talked about in Christian circles. Many just assume it's ok and are uninformed about the potential harm it can do to unborn children. In this episode, we look at the subject of birth control from a pro-life and Biblical perspective. 

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours s and me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.869 Lord, I am Your Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. This 3 00:00:11.029 --> 00:00:14.390 episode we're going to look at the subject of birth control from a biblical and 4 00:00:14.669 --> 00:00:18.789 from a pro life perspective. This is a very controversial but important subject, 5 00:00:18.829 --> 00:00:32.060 so stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Me. 6 00:00:35.460 --> 00:00:39.450 Welcome to the Gospel centered pro life podcasts. We appreciate you guys listening 7 00:00:39.770 --> 00:00:43.049 and, as always, we appreciate you guys sharing this podcast. We hope 8 00:00:43.130 --> 00:00:46.210 it is an encouragement to you guys, but also we want it to be 9 00:00:46.250 --> 00:00:52.240 an encouragement to other people. The goal is to equip people and to help 10 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:56.600 people think through from a Biblical perspective, from a Gospel Center perspective, a 11 00:00:56.640 --> 00:01:00.359 lot of the issues that have to do with pro life stuff, with the 12 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:04.150 main focus on sidewalk counseling, because that's what we do, sidewalk outreach, 13 00:01:04.829 --> 00:01:08.790 ministering to men and women at the local abortion centers. That's our heart, 14 00:01:08.950 --> 00:01:12.069 that's what God has called us to and that's what we want to equip you 15 00:01:12.109 --> 00:01:15.230 guys to do, and that's what these podcasts are centered around, even though 16 00:01:15.269 --> 00:01:19.700 not every time we cover a subject. Does that have to do with sidewalks? 17 00:01:19.659 --> 00:01:23.099 The reality is, though, the conversation probably started on the sidewalks, 18 00:01:23.140 --> 00:01:26.579 as you and I are out there and you know, we have conversations with 19 00:01:26.659 --> 00:01:30.459 each other and we have conversation with our other counselors that are out there. 20 00:01:32.019 --> 00:01:34.049 Things come up, they might have a question about their hey, can you 21 00:01:34.090 --> 00:01:38.489 guys do a podcast or we think that? So podcast about that, because 22 00:01:38.530 --> 00:01:42.170 a lot of our topics ared the the desire to remain consistent. Yeah, 23 00:01:42.209 --> 00:01:46.329 and in what we think, say and believe. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 24 00:01:46.370 --> 00:01:49.879 Yeah, so we we put subjects out there that we think will equip 25 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.959 people and answer questions that we see come up often times. And I know 26 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:59.079 we did a couple of weeks ago a podcast about how to deal with people 27 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:02.790 who are coming to the abortion center, mainly plan parenthood, who well, 28 00:02:02.870 --> 00:02:07.229 other abortion centers to who do other things other than abortion. The Abortion Center 29 00:02:07.270 --> 00:02:10.629 here on the troupe drive, they only do abortions, right, so we 30 00:02:10.750 --> 00:02:14.189 deal with people that are here for an abortion or have had an abortion, 31 00:02:14.270 --> 00:02:16.699 but there's other people that come to like plan parenthood and stuff, who are 32 00:02:16.740 --> 00:02:20.900 coming for I mean we talked about some of those things. Some are coming 33 00:02:20.939 --> 00:02:27.620 for like conversion therapy, right, this isn't the right term, or harm 34 00:02:27.699 --> 00:02:34.810 a hormone therapy for trans transitioning, yeah, into a different gender. Yeah, 35 00:02:34.889 --> 00:02:38.289 yeah, and they're people that come for various things, that Plant parenthood, 36 00:02:38.289 --> 00:02:43.050 and some of those people that we encounter the plant parent who'd come for 37 00:02:43.169 --> 00:02:46.879 birth control. And one of the questions that we have a lot from people 38 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:52.159 is should Christians be using birth control right? And I think I think we 39 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.520 have to say right off from the start that, you know, we're not 40 00:02:55.639 --> 00:03:02.349 medical experts. Hmmm, and there is some controversy around this. It's not 41 00:03:02.590 --> 00:03:06.909 like it's a settled thing for some people to settled thing, like they've got 42 00:03:06.990 --> 00:03:10.509 it figured out. Christians should not use birth control at all. Some people 43 00:03:10.509 --> 00:03:14.819 would say who have it, they think have it figured out, would say 44 00:03:14.819 --> 00:03:17.300 Christians are okay using birth control. So I think we have to acknowledge that 45 00:03:17.780 --> 00:03:23.780 there is this tension and there's still some questions and we're going to talk about 46 00:03:23.020 --> 00:03:28.250 certain things again with the focus on equipping you guys at the abortion centers and 47 00:03:28.650 --> 00:03:31.729 you know, certainly, I think any subject that we approach, when we're 48 00:03:31.729 --> 00:03:38.650 talking about human life, we have to approach very carefully, very thoughtfully and, 49 00:03:38.810 --> 00:03:43.080 of course, very biblically. That's it, kind of the the angle 50 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.199 we're going to be coming from as it pertains to birth control. So we've 51 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:51.360 got, like we often do, an article that wonderful Vicki wrote here, 52 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.240 and there's certain premises that we're going to be talking about, just kind of 53 00:03:54.280 --> 00:04:00.590 going through these certain premises and we're going to talk around those biblically and then 54 00:04:00.550 --> 00:04:05.710 practically. And the first premise here is that human life is sacred, and 55 00:04:06.030 --> 00:04:09.550 I'll think that's going to be an argument for any of our people that are 56 00:04:09.590 --> 00:04:14.060 listening. Hey, human life is sacred, has a sacred value above and 57 00:04:14.180 --> 00:04:18.779 beyond animal life and all of that. Right, human beings are made in 58 00:04:18.819 --> 00:04:21.660 the image of God. Genesis one hundred and twenty seven, God created man 59 00:04:21.779 --> 00:04:25.889 in his own image and image of God. He created him male and female. 60 00:04:25.930 --> 00:04:30.250 He created them. Human beings are made in God's image and that, 61 00:04:30.529 --> 00:04:35.689 though, has to be the foundation when we're talking about birth control, right, 62 00:04:35.769 --> 00:04:40.720 when we're talking about bringing new lives into this world, when we're talking 63 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:45.120 about abortion. Of course, if human life was just like animal life, 64 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.439 then this debate would be null and void, right. Why are we in 65 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:50.519 having this conversation. Why do we stand in front of abortion centers? I 66 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:56.189 mean, certainly it's wrong to abuse animals, but we eat them, right, 67 00:04:56.310 --> 00:04:59.350 we eat them for dinner. Right, they didn't in the garden of 68 00:04:59.430 --> 00:05:02.430 eating until the fall. Correct. Yet kind of said I wish I'd been 69 00:05:02.509 --> 00:05:06.939 back to that time because I like animals. Like them to there's very tasty. 70 00:05:08.540 --> 00:05:11.420 Actually it's what Peter stands where. You know that right, people eating 71 00:05:11.500 --> 00:05:15.860 tasty animals. Yeah, but point is that animal life and human life is 72 00:05:15.980 --> 00:05:21.089 different. Yeah, well, animals in humans have some of the same characteristics, 73 00:05:21.569 --> 00:05:27.050 but human beings are the only creature that God had made in his own 74 00:05:27.329 --> 00:05:30.410 image. Should that's premise number one, and and the the Bible is clear. 75 00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:33.930 That shown a murder. So this premise is absolutely critical when we're talking 76 00:05:33.930 --> 00:05:41.639 about birth control, because are their forms of birth control that do indeed violate 77 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:48.360 this premise, that that they treat human life as not sacred because it destroys 78 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:54.110 human life. But you've got to be operating in this discussion from that just 79 00:05:54.509 --> 00:06:00.509 first most base Dick Truth. Human life is sacred because God created us in 80 00:06:00.750 --> 00:06:04.699 his image, and so when we're talking about birth control, there's basically two 81 00:06:04.740 --> 00:06:11.699 different kinds. There's kinds that that either are going to prevent the egg from 82 00:06:12.139 --> 00:06:16.579 being fertilized and so a human life is not yet created. Yeah, and 83 00:06:16.699 --> 00:06:23.370 then there's kinds that prevent that fertilized egg from implanting, yeah, or can 84 00:06:23.410 --> 00:06:27.810 actually destroy the fertilized egg, and in that case that's going to violate this 85 00:06:27.930 --> 00:06:30.930 first premise. Right. They those are what are called the board of fashioned 86 00:06:30.209 --> 00:06:34.600 yeah, and and those that because they cause an abortion, because any time 87 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:42.319 a fertilized egg is destroyed, that is a violation of that first premise. 88 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:45.680 Yeah, and that is of course. I mean, none of that would 89 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:48.870 even matter if we didn't believe that life begins at conception, right, and 90 00:06:49.509 --> 00:06:54.629 we certainly do write believe that life begins at conception. It's the only logical 91 00:06:54.709 --> 00:06:57.790 place for us to say that life begins. You know. Yet the some 92 00:06:57.910 --> 00:07:00.750 of the pro abortion people that will say, you know, life begins at 93 00:07:00.829 --> 00:07:05.180 birth, or life begins at when the brain function is at a certain level. 94 00:07:05.779 --> 00:07:10.980 You know, it's so all of all of that is just a subjective 95 00:07:11.220 --> 00:07:15.730 and there's really no solid from all of that, even like from birth. 96 00:07:15.850 --> 00:07:17.529 I mean you say, well, that's not a subject that's an objective time 97 00:07:18.290 --> 00:07:24.529 period that takes place. But you're trying to have me believe that five seconds 98 00:07:24.569 --> 00:07:27.970 before or birth it's not alive. That's ridiculous. And a child at the 99 00:07:28.050 --> 00:07:32.639 same age that's born early, dude, they are they less value because they 100 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:36.639 were born? Surely because the the time of birth wasn't they were developed for 101 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:41.160 forty four weeks, like in in a jumical birth. But that does lead 102 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:46.389 to the second premise, to yeah, unborn humans are loved by God from 103 00:07:46.910 --> 00:07:50.230 conception. So we believe that life begins at conception. Right again, I 104 00:07:50.269 --> 00:07:55.029 don't think there's any other logical plays where you could say this is when life 105 00:07:55.029 --> 00:07:59.860 begins, this is when a unique organism comes to being, except for conception. 106 00:07:59.899 --> 00:08:03.980 Right, right, and even biblical Bibly, I mean, because everything 107 00:08:03.220 --> 00:08:09.379 that we hopefully impart in our podcast is is based on biblical tree. Yeah, 108 00:08:09.899 --> 00:08:13.050 and so we see in the scripture that God is the one. In 109 00:08:13.050 --> 00:08:16.569 Jeremiah, chapter one, verse five, he says, before I formed you, 110 00:08:16.689 --> 00:08:20.810 I knew you and before you were born, I consecrated to your eyes, 111 00:08:20.889 --> 00:08:26.089 set you apart as a prophet to the nation's yeah, so Jeremiah was 112 00:08:26.250 --> 00:08:31.360 known by God and of course this scripture implies and says very, very specifically 113 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:33.399 that God is the one that formed him before I formed you. So who 114 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:39.000 formed him? God did. I knew you. So this even speaks of 115 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.789 and we're not going to go here, I don't think, per se, 116 00:08:43.070 --> 00:08:46.590 but the speaks of the knowledge of God before he was even conceived. It's 117 00:08:46.629 --> 00:08:50.590 like God knew him before he's even can see and get into a lot of 118 00:08:50.950 --> 00:08:56.779 theological depth as as it concerns that. Of course God knows the in from 119 00:08:56.779 --> 00:08:58.620 the beginning. God, it knows every life that comes to pass, and 120 00:08:58.779 --> 00:09:07.299 God certainly knew Jeremiah. But we do believe that human life is precious. 121 00:09:07.299 --> 00:09:11.049 That's like the basic premise of being pro life or being against abortion. It's 122 00:09:11.169 --> 00:09:18.210 wrong because life begins at conception, in between conception and birth, there's life 123 00:09:18.330 --> 00:09:22.450 there. As a society we've said that life doesn't have value, but God's 124 00:09:22.450 --> 00:09:26.639 word says that it does. Yeah, when I was looking through this, 125 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.679 but I don't think I had ever really noticed this, but in Luke one 126 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:35.879 hundred and fifteen, he will be filled with the Holy Spirit while yet in 127 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.549 his mother's womb. Yeah, that really struck me. I mean talk about 128 00:09:39.549 --> 00:09:45.110 the value that God has placed on the unboard child. He has already filled 129 00:09:45.269 --> 00:09:50.309 that that unborn child, with the Holy Spirit. Yeah. So I think 130 00:09:50.309 --> 00:09:58.299 there's really no doubt biblically that from conception that child is loved by God, 131 00:09:58.500 --> 00:10:01.899 known by God, created by God and therefore valued by God from from that 132 00:10:03.059 --> 00:10:07.059 moment of conception. Absolutely. And so, just kind of moving along our 133 00:10:07.139 --> 00:10:11.610 third premises, we are called to protect human life from the moment of conception. 134 00:10:11.690 --> 00:10:16.250 Yeah, and so that's why we stand in front of an abortion center. 135 00:10:16.330 --> 00:10:18.690 Yep. That's why we are calling out to the bombs that come over 136 00:10:18.769 --> 00:10:22.240 and receive literature and hell, that's what we're pleading with him not to go 137 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:26.840 in that place. Not because we think that what goes on there is just 138 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:33.519 a bad idea or just a bad medical procedure. Mean, certainly those places 139 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.669 are not safe, but it's more than just a medical procedure that takes place. 140 00:10:37.710 --> 00:10:43.350 A human life is destroyed and we are called to protect human life. 141 00:10:43.509 --> 00:10:46.750 Right. Lots of verses that that. That tell us that one of the 142 00:10:46.070 --> 00:10:52.179 the when, again, when I was looking through researching this article again, 143 00:10:52.220 --> 00:10:54.940 I had never really noticed this, but in in the verse where talks about 144 00:10:56.179 --> 00:11:01.659 how the angel speaks to Mary, says that she has conceived through the Holy 145 00:11:01.700 --> 00:11:05.330 Spirit. And then it says right after she hurries to her cousin Elizabeth. 146 00:11:05.370 --> 00:11:13.090 So this is presumably immediately after the conception of Jesus of the baby in her 147 00:11:13.169 --> 00:11:20.279 womb and as she hurries immediately. So this is a newly conceived baby in 148 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.360 her womb, right, unless I'm misreading no, and and the the baby 149 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:30.960 and Elizabeth's womb leaps for joy. So there's there's two babies here, one 150 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.149 who is leaping for joy in the womb, which is very telling, but 151 00:11:35.549 --> 00:11:43.509 recognizing already the specialness of that other baby in the womb who is newly conceived. 152 00:11:43.789 --> 00:11:48.340 and to me I think that's an argument for again that from conception that 153 00:11:48.379 --> 00:11:56.059 that child is is honored and loved and valued by God. Yeah, yeah, 154 00:11:56.379 --> 00:12:01.379 absolutely, and I just to piggyback on that. If you're looking at 155 00:12:01.379 --> 00:12:05.049 those terms in the Greek, you look at and Luke chapter one, especially 156 00:12:05.809 --> 00:12:09.690 where it talks about the baby leapt in her womb, and Luke chapter one 157 00:12:09.809 --> 00:12:13.330 talking about about John The baptist. The word there's breathos, right, so 158 00:12:13.450 --> 00:12:18.240 that's a Greek word referring to an infant. So yeah, later on when 159 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.960 it talks about Mary Holding Jesus. After Jesus is born, that same word 160 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.360 is used. Yeah, breathos. It's the same, same word. So, 161 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:31.710 biblically, by the Holy Spirit, Luke is recording, the baby in 162 00:12:31.750 --> 00:12:35.509 the womb is breathos, right, a baby, a life that's conceived. 163 00:12:35.870 --> 00:12:39.309 Yeah, and then the baby outside of the womb, referring to Jesus, 164 00:12:39.429 --> 00:12:43.149 is breathos, yeah, an infant. Yeah, and words matter. They 165 00:12:43.230 --> 00:12:46.139 didn't, and certainly to God and the words that he chooses and or inspires 166 00:12:46.259 --> 00:12:50.100 the writers in the bike. Yeah, I mean they'll say there were likely 167 00:12:50.220 --> 00:12:52.620 words available, and it's kind of like you know, nowadays we referred to 168 00:12:52.620 --> 00:12:58.019 a baby in the womb as a fetus. Medically that an infant is after 169 00:12:58.100 --> 00:13:03.090 it's born, but generally we just referred to it as a baby rights, 170 00:13:03.129 --> 00:13:05.570 the general term that we use. If it's wanted, that's what we refer 171 00:13:05.690 --> 00:13:09.009 to it as. For sure. Yeah, there are certainly words they could 172 00:13:09.009 --> 00:13:13.519 have used in Greek that would have been different than Breathos, but they chose 173 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.279 that because it's the same as a baby inside the whims the same as a 174 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.240 baby outside of the womb, except for a few different things that are going 175 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:24.399 on there. Right in the development of that job. But as far as 176 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:26.870 value, yeah, as far as personhood, it's the same. Yeah, 177 00:13:26.870 --> 00:13:30.190 we believe that. Yeah. So we've kind of built a case up to 178 00:13:30.230 --> 00:13:33.230 this point that, okay, the the baby is a baby, is a 179 00:13:33.309 --> 00:13:37.549 human being from the moment of conception, is valued from the moment of conception 180 00:13:37.750 --> 00:13:41.179 and is worthy of our protection. Yeah, from the moment of conception. 181 00:13:41.220 --> 00:13:46.460 And that all leads kind of to the fourth premise where we begin to really 182 00:13:46.500 --> 00:13:50.299 discuss then. Well, so, what about birth control? Yeah, should 183 00:13:50.299 --> 00:13:52.980 be our concerns with me. Yeah. Yeah. So premise some before is 184 00:13:54.019 --> 00:13:58.090 if we know birth control methods or a board of Facian, we should not 185 00:13:58.289 --> 00:14:01.450 use them. Yeah, and acknowledging, like we did at the beginning of 186 00:14:01.529 --> 00:14:07.970 this podcast, that there's some ambiguity there. There's some birth control methods that 187 00:14:07.450 --> 00:14:13.879 some doctors say could be and some doctors are saying they aren't probably aren't right. 188 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.720 So we're going to talk around that a little bit. Yeah, but 189 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:20.440 the Ambi you guys to do your own research. The ambiguity is not that 190 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:24.190 we should go ahead and use it if it's a board of fashioned. Yeah, 191 00:14:24.309 --> 00:14:28.750 there's no ambiguity biblically, if it is an a board of fashion. 192 00:14:28.750 --> 00:14:33.669 If it kills a developing human being, then we've kind of laid the groundwork. 193 00:14:35.269 --> 00:14:39.259 We shouldn't use it. So it behooves every Christian to understand that, 194 00:14:39.460 --> 00:14:45.259 right. Yeah, which which birth control methods are acknowledged as a board of 195 00:14:45.259 --> 00:14:46.539 fashioned and which? I'm not charmed saying that right, by the way, 196 00:14:46.539 --> 00:14:50.379 it might be facient, I'm not sure. But which are and which are 197 00:14:50.419 --> 00:14:54.570 not? And and if, if we love the Lord, we should try 198 00:14:54.610 --> 00:15:01.169 to abide by not using those that we can pretty conclusively say are a Board 199 00:15:01.210 --> 00:15:05.250 of fashion. Yeah, and full disclosure, I'll share a little bit of 200 00:15:05.330 --> 00:15:09.480 my story. Okay, is that for a while, me and my wife, 201 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.159 we did use birth control. We used hormonal birth control, for this 202 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:18.960 was after we were Christians, after we were married. Yeah, and really 203 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:22.389 just because it's it's like it's what you do, right. Everybody does. 204 00:15:22.470 --> 00:15:26.110 The help your exact doesn't no one talks at all about it being possibly causing 205 00:15:26.149 --> 00:15:30.590 abortions. Yeah, you really have to dig to find that information. Yeah, 206 00:15:30.789 --> 00:15:33.629 absolutely, and so we used it and I'm just figured it's what everybody 207 00:15:33.750 --> 00:15:37.580 does. And you know, as the Lord Begin to work on me a 208 00:15:37.620 --> 00:15:43.779 little more, because if you think about it. The reasoning behind that is 209 00:15:43.860 --> 00:15:48.220 really unbiblical reasoning. I'm not gonna not going to do this, probably for 210 00:15:48.259 --> 00:15:50.929 a whole other podcast. It could be a whole other podcast I talk about, 211 00:15:52.009 --> 00:15:56.529 but what you came to. So the Bible lays out a very clear 212 00:15:56.929 --> 00:16:03.210 case that children are blessing right, that we should view children as a blessing. 213 00:16:03.250 --> 00:16:08.399 And this whole idea of you know, to and no more, right, 214 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:11.679 two kids and no more, this comes from the world. This comes 215 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.960 from the world's view of children. The children are just a bless our children 216 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.389 are just a birding burden, not a blessing. That the getting the way 217 00:16:18.429 --> 00:16:22.470 if you, you know, having your new house and your two new cars 218 00:16:22.509 --> 00:16:26.029 in the driveway and mom and dad able to go out on you know, 219 00:16:26.230 --> 00:16:30.710 on the town or whatever. And so the motivation for limiting our families a 220 00:16:30.750 --> 00:16:36.460 lot of times is a selfish one. If we examine it honestly, right, 221 00:16:36.539 --> 00:16:38.860 and it's not a biblical understanding the blessing that children are. The Bible 222 00:16:38.899 --> 00:16:42.539 says in some one and twenty seven children are a blessing from the Lord. 223 00:16:44.019 --> 00:16:48.090 In the Hebrew mindset it was a blessing to have children. You would be 224 00:16:48.330 --> 00:16:52.370 cursed. You think about Rachel, who cried out to Jacob and said give 225 00:16:52.409 --> 00:16:56.929 me children or I die. Yeah, like she wanted to have children, 226 00:16:56.049 --> 00:17:00.129 she wanted now, she said desperate. She went through her servant, her 227 00:17:00.210 --> 00:17:04.039 maid servants right to have children at first year. Is that someone else? 228 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:08.599 And the patriarch spected. Yeah, yeah, and so children are to be 229 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:12.119 received as a blessing. It would be received as a curse. Now, 230 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:15.640 I don't mean to say that people that can't have children are cursed. I'm 231 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:19.750 not. I don't exactly agree with that, but biblically, if you didn't 232 00:17:19.750 --> 00:17:23.990 have children, they were something wrong. Right. Nowadays, if you have 233 00:17:25.230 --> 00:17:27.509 too many children, according to say are quotes, too many children AC cording 234 00:17:27.509 --> 00:17:30.940 to the eyes of the world, and somehow you're weird and you're strange, 235 00:17:32.380 --> 00:17:36.579 which is a complete contradiction and the kind of turning things upside down according to 236 00:17:36.660 --> 00:17:40.299 what the Bible's motivation is. Yeah, children are a blessing. We've got 237 00:17:40.339 --> 00:17:44.450 eight kids. I remember back whenever we had for people would look at US 238 00:17:44.450 --> 00:17:45.650 funny and think, don't you know an they always say, don't you know 239 00:17:45.690 --> 00:17:48.410 what causes that? Right, so, yeah, causes that. I never 240 00:17:48.490 --> 00:17:53.970 heard that one before. So I think this understanding, this biblical understanding, 241 00:17:55.049 --> 00:17:59.039 ultimately is what got ahold of me. And then I dug a little deeper 242 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:03.599 in the birth control stuff and just discovered that some of the hormonal birth control 243 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:10.839 actually could potentially be a board of facient. Right, it could be taken 244 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:15.670 babies who are conceived and and causing them to be flushed out of my wife's 245 00:18:15.710 --> 00:18:18.509 body and, yeah, and to be ultimately killed, right, yeah, 246 00:18:19.269 --> 00:18:23.309 and I remember repenting before the Lord for that and it took some time before 247 00:18:23.349 --> 00:18:27.859 I realized what this birth control stuff could potentially do. And so, as 248 00:18:27.980 --> 00:18:32.259 for me and my house, we said we're not using that stuff. Yeah, 249 00:18:32.740 --> 00:18:37.740 because if even if it's possible, if it's even possible, that a 250 00:18:37.779 --> 00:18:41.650 baby is being killed, then I don't want to have any part in that. 251 00:18:41.730 --> 00:18:44.569 And so I think, guys, is we're going through this. You 252 00:18:44.650 --> 00:18:47.210 know, I don't want to come down heavy, I don't want to bring 253 00:18:47.809 --> 00:18:52.369 condemnation to people sharing what God did in my heart, but also, listen, 254 00:18:52.450 --> 00:18:56.319 guys, we do need to be very careful about what we're involving ourselves 255 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.440 in, the mentalities that we embrace and the stuff that we use, because 256 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:03.559 I do believe that's what we need to be thinking in our minds as it 257 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.079 concerns birth controls, like okay, is we're talking through in these different ones, 258 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:11.670 who may or may not write destroy a fertilized egg, a child that 259 00:19:11.869 --> 00:19:15.190 is conceived. If we believe that life begins a conception and there's something that 260 00:19:15.910 --> 00:19:21.190 it may or it may not, I think when in doubt, you stay 261 00:19:21.230 --> 00:19:23.859 away from that stuff. I would agree are on the side of caution in 262 00:19:25.099 --> 00:19:27.940 that, because to end it, even inadvertently, take a human life, 263 00:19:29.099 --> 00:19:32.740 would be wrong. Yes, wrong for God. So we have a list 264 00:19:33.220 --> 00:19:36.500 which I a lot of people just want to know that. They have asked 265 00:19:36.660 --> 00:19:38.529 us which ones are okay, which ones are not. In like you said, 266 00:19:38.569 --> 00:19:42.930 and we do post the two articles that this these lists are based on 267 00:19:42.970 --> 00:19:51.849 on our sidewalks for life and also where we post the podcast. But in 268 00:19:52.369 --> 00:19:56.160 both articles they are very honest that there is controversy. Yeah, they also 269 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:02.920 point out that they tried recently to research this list and to find out was 270 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:07.430 there a more definitive proof of whether they were a board of fashion or not, 271 00:20:07.750 --> 00:20:11.069 and said in a decade there's been very little definitive research, which is, 272 00:20:11.150 --> 00:20:12.990 yeah, kind of strange. You would think they would want to answer 273 00:20:14.029 --> 00:20:17.069 that question. But again, we're in a pro death culture, yeah, 274 00:20:17.470 --> 00:20:22.619 a pro abortion culture, and it is not a burning issue. Yeah, 275 00:20:22.819 --> 00:20:29.579 in our society. Yeah, kind of been accepted as normative. And Hey, 276 00:20:30.339 --> 00:20:33.740 who's to say it kills a child or not? WHO's the judge? 277 00:20:33.779 --> 00:20:36.730 And why should we dig any deeper into it? Right, yeah, because 278 00:20:36.730 --> 00:20:40.849 we're, like you said, we're in a prodeath culture. Yeah, and 279 00:20:41.369 --> 00:20:45.130 culture that views children is only burdens rather than blessing. Right. Yes, 280 00:20:45.329 --> 00:20:51.200 is a contradiction according to the word of God. So oral contraceptives. These 281 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:56.079 are the aboard of Fashions. So oral contraceptives, which are probably the most 282 00:20:56.079 --> 00:21:00.519 commonly used birth control everywhere. So that that would be birth control pills, 283 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:08.750 and there are some that are considered clearly aboard of fashioned and some that there's 284 00:21:08.789 --> 00:21:15.390 some question about. Yeah. So, in either case, the birth control 285 00:21:15.509 --> 00:21:19.579 pills are iffy for a Christian use if you're truly going to be trying to 286 00:21:19.619 --> 00:21:26.660 follow God's very clear and strict standard of the value of life. IUDs, 287 00:21:26.059 --> 00:21:30.660 both copper and hormonal. I don't know what a hormonal IUD is. I'm 288 00:21:30.700 --> 00:21:36.769 not sure I understand that, but the article said that both of those are 289 00:21:36.809 --> 00:21:41.410 aboard of fashioned and that one there's a lot of evidence. There's also evidence 290 00:21:41.730 --> 00:21:47.640 in all of these things which so makes sense with God's commands, are always 291 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:53.359 protective, and in both birth control pills and in the IUD there are risks 292 00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:57.960 and they're not insignificant. True to the mom stroke, blood clots with the 293 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:03.549 IUD, actually with both of them, increased risk of ectopic pregnancy. So 294 00:22:03.670 --> 00:22:11.309 there's dangers with these. We these birth control methods. Be The hormonal. 295 00:22:11.430 --> 00:22:15.630 All of really the hormonal birth control. So that would include the hormonal patches, 296 00:22:15.740 --> 00:22:21.180 hormonal shot, hormonal implants, hormonal vaginal rings. And I get this 297 00:22:21.380 --> 00:22:25.859 question a lot. Plan Be. Yeah, plan be. Someone just asked 298 00:22:25.859 --> 00:22:30.369 me as plan be the abortion pill. No, it's not, but it 299 00:22:30.569 --> 00:22:33.210 is what used after rape or after unprotected sex. I think it has to 300 00:22:33.289 --> 00:22:37.450 be used within twenty four hours. Yeah, I'm not really sure about that, 301 00:22:37.890 --> 00:22:44.089 but it's the emergency contraceptive. Yeah, and there, there again. 302 00:22:44.170 --> 00:22:49.319 There's some controversy over that, but some experts and some of the research does 303 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:53.920 indicate that it could cause an abortion. Yeah, yeah, and I want 304 00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:57.670 to kind of maybe give a little qualifier here. Okay, because there is 305 00:22:59.750 --> 00:23:03.509 some ambiguity right, is some. There's some research that says yeah, it's 306 00:23:03.549 --> 00:23:08.430 some that says nay. So just like you could say, could plan be 307 00:23:08.589 --> 00:23:14.779 potentially kill a fertilized egg, kill a conceived child? Yes, it could, 308 00:23:15.819 --> 00:23:18.339 but that doesn't mean it always does. Right. In fact, the 309 00:23:18.380 --> 00:23:21.779 vast majority of time they feel it doesn't. Right. Yeah, in the 310 00:23:21.819 --> 00:23:23.539 same way because from what I understand, you correct me if I'm wrong, 311 00:23:23.579 --> 00:23:27.329 but it's basically just a bunch of birth control, right. The plan B 312 00:23:27.529 --> 00:23:32.289 is just a concentrated amount of birth control. Yeah, in a big dose. 313 00:23:32.490 --> 00:23:34.849 Yeah, but one time by loose or one or two type those. 314 00:23:36.569 --> 00:23:38.490 And so in the same way with a with birth control pills. Yeah, 315 00:23:38.690 --> 00:23:45.960 it could. It's possible that it could abort weren't a conceived child, but 316 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:52.079 it's not absolutely, absolutely always going to, or can you absolutely prove that 317 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:56.349 it has? So you know from my situation that I shared, my wife 318 00:23:56.390 --> 00:24:00.150 took birth control for a couple of years. Yeah, I have no idea 319 00:24:00.349 --> 00:24:03.029 whether or not there were conceived children, right, that were ultimately aborted. 320 00:24:03.230 --> 00:24:06.710 I don't know, right. Right. So I'm not going to bear a 321 00:24:06.750 --> 00:24:10.539 bunch of guilt for myself because I didn't know what I didn't know, but 322 00:24:10.660 --> 00:24:12.660 now that I do know. Yes, sustain away from that. Yeah, 323 00:24:12.700 --> 00:24:17.140 I don't even want to touch it. Yeah, and I think that's a 324 00:24:17.220 --> 00:24:21.059 really important point. is in all these things, we're not the MOM and 325 00:24:21.099 --> 00:24:25.210 dad of all of our listeners and we can we can't force them to or 326 00:24:25.369 --> 00:24:27.369 nor do we want to force them to make a choice. That choice has 327 00:24:27.410 --> 00:24:32.490 to be between you and God. But we're just giving the evidence as as 328 00:24:32.609 --> 00:24:36.730 we know it and we strongly recommend that people research for themselves and really get 329 00:24:36.769 --> 00:24:41.640 before the Lord and absolutely he would convict them. There are non aboard of 330 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:47.839 fashioned methods of birth control. Those would definitely be the preferred method, so 331 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:52.720 that that would include male and female condoms, vaginal sponge, sperm acide, 332 00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:56.269 those are all non aboard of fashion, and so they're there that they're called 333 00:24:56.309 --> 00:25:00.950 the barrier methods, like, you know, cervical cap, diaphragm sterilization. 334 00:25:00.990 --> 00:25:06.430 I mean if a lot of people have a lot of strong feelings about whether 335 00:25:06.470 --> 00:25:12.740 that is biblical or not, sure, but but there's that is that does 336 00:25:12.940 --> 00:25:18.380 prevent at a fertilized egg from ever or at the egg from ever getting fertil 337 00:25:18.500 --> 00:25:22.329 yes, I mean that would be there's a whole other conversation around that, 338 00:25:22.690 --> 00:25:26.490 course, right. But yeah, I mean there's there's no fertilization taking place 339 00:25:26.529 --> 00:25:32.089 because you've been sterilized, right, and then you know natural family planning, 340 00:25:32.250 --> 00:25:37.640 so fertility awareness methods. The Catholic certainly teach that method of of family planning. 341 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:45.559 Yeah, so those are all those would all be acceptable as a birth 342 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:49.670 control if you are sold that birth control is is acceptable. Yeah, and 343 00:25:49.789 --> 00:25:53.430 of itself. Yeah, and so that's kind of that was premised number four. 344 00:25:53.990 --> 00:25:59.910 Premised number five. Birth control does not prevent abortion and has risks. 345 00:26:00.069 --> 00:26:03.470 There's this mentality that you, as a society, birth control is good. 346 00:26:03.029 --> 00:26:07.660 I've actually even had some folks who have come across my radar who want to 347 00:26:07.700 --> 00:26:11.059 get involved, who want to get trained to do sidewalk counseling and things like 348 00:26:11.099 --> 00:26:15.819 that. And on some of the forms we ask questions like what's your view 349 00:26:15.859 --> 00:26:18.019 of birth control? We just want to see where people are at, right. 350 00:26:18.059 --> 00:26:19.769 Yeah, and a lot of people are saying I've seen it. Quite 351 00:26:19.809 --> 00:26:23.369 a few people respond with well, birth control is good because it lowers abortion. 352 00:26:23.410 --> 00:26:26.650 Yeah, and so that's a good thing, right, because people who 353 00:26:26.769 --> 00:26:30.609 like centers are going to sin, and we understand that people are going to 354 00:26:30.650 --> 00:26:33.440 have sex outside of marriage right and if they're going to, it's better that 355 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.480 they use birth control rather than they go and aboard their children that are conceived 356 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:42.640 in in their sin. But for what you've have here, you're saying that 357 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:48.069 it doesn't prevent abortion rights. There is, and that's surprised me, but 358 00:26:48.190 --> 00:26:52.910 the the website students for Life Dot Org. And then contraception, and I 359 00:26:53.029 --> 00:26:57.430 thought we link that in the article. It's sites research that shows that nine 360 00:26:57.589 --> 00:27:03.900 percent of women who use birth control get pregnant anyway, and a whopping fifty 361 00:27:03.059 --> 00:27:08.700 one percent of abortion past patients were using birth control when they got pregnant. 362 00:27:10.299 --> 00:27:15.890 So it shows this is not an effective tool to prevent abortion, which was 363 00:27:15.410 --> 00:27:19.170 is always what you hear from the socalled pro choice crowd. You know why 364 00:27:19.170 --> 00:27:22.690 are you against birth control? You hate abortion. This prevents abortion. Well, 365 00:27:22.730 --> 00:27:26.170 the research shows, first of all, fifty one percent of the women 366 00:27:26.410 --> 00:27:30.359 who are coming for an abortion we're using birth control in the month that they 367 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.279 came for the abortion. But the second thing is, not only does it 368 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:38.400 not prevent abortion, but birth control may in fact be an abortion at times. 369 00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:42.880 Yeah, so it and, like I had already mentioned, it also 370 00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:47.190 has it comes with its own risks. Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely. 371 00:27:47.589 --> 00:27:49.069 We won't get into all of those. I think if nothing else, 372 00:27:49.150 --> 00:27:53.029 guys, this podcast should spur you guys to do your own research. We're 373 00:27:53.029 --> 00:27:56.069 going to give you. I've already shared with you kind of the conclusion that 374 00:27:56.349 --> 00:28:00.619 our family has come to, and so we've given you that, but you 375 00:28:00.700 --> 00:28:03.259 need to get before the Lord. You need to do the research yourself. 376 00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:06.420 It's helpful to be informed of these things when you're out on the sidewalk and 377 00:28:06.460 --> 00:28:08.859 you're ministering to people that are coming to have birth control. It's good to 378 00:28:08.980 --> 00:28:11.700 have some of these facts. It's good to know some of the stuff and 379 00:28:11.819 --> 00:28:17.450 ultimately, it's good that we know before the Lord that we're doing the right 380 00:28:17.569 --> 00:28:21.529 thing. Right we want to honor God. That's far and above everything that 381 00:28:21.650 --> 00:28:23.529 we want to honor the Lord. So if we're doing things, if we're 382 00:28:23.529 --> 00:28:29.640 embracing mentalities that dishonor the Lord and they're just not biblical mentalities as far as 383 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.640 like our view of children and that sort of thing, we need to repent. 384 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:34.359 Yeah, and we need to ask the Lord to change our hearts in 385 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:38.400 those areas. Yeah, and which kind of leads to that. I think 386 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:42.990 it's our last premise. Pres yes, our six premise. Yeah, birth 387 00:28:44.069 --> 00:28:48.910 control masks the true issue of rebellion from God. Yeah, so much of 388 00:28:49.269 --> 00:28:55.670 the freedom to have sex outside of marriage is because of birth control. Yeah, 389 00:28:55.710 --> 00:29:00.420 it. It does make it easier to rebel against God in the issue 390 00:29:00.460 --> 00:29:03.940 of sexual purity. Yeah, I mean, you think about it, we're 391 00:29:03.940 --> 00:29:07.380 a peel popping society. We got appeal for everything, right, everything that 392 00:29:07.500 --> 00:29:11.329 we do, we've got some kind of peal that can make it all better. 393 00:29:12.089 --> 00:29:17.089 And obviously that's not the it's not the will of God. All right, 394 00:29:18.410 --> 00:29:22.849 again, children are blessing. Yeah, and when there's no I don't 395 00:29:22.849 --> 00:29:25.599 know how to say this, but there's no consequences, we can pop up 396 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.960 pill to get rid of the consequences of anything that we do or to chield 397 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.480 us from consequences. And sex outside of marriage. The consequence sometimes can be 398 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:36.880 that you get pregnant, right, and there's a child that you have to 399 00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:40.910 be responsible for. Yeah, take away that a consequence. And it's like 400 00:29:41.230 --> 00:29:45.069 this whole free love movement and the Birth Control Movement really have coincided with one 401 00:29:45.109 --> 00:29:52.380 another, and the birth control movement gave fuel to the fire for the glute 402 00:29:52.460 --> 00:29:56.819 freelove movement. And all the other junk that came with that. And then, 403 00:29:56.859 --> 00:30:00.539 ultimately, for abortion. Yeah, because when birth control fails, abortion 404 00:30:00.619 --> 00:30:04.339 becomes the final birth control. Yeah, it prevents the the birth of that 405 00:30:04.460 --> 00:30:08.730 child. But so, yeah, with with birth control came the sexual revolution. 406 00:30:10.170 --> 00:30:14.329 And but you know, and it brought so many, in the the 407 00:30:15.410 --> 00:30:18.970 eyes of the world, so many benefits for women. And yet look at 408 00:30:19.009 --> 00:30:25.960 what it also brought. Increased number of teens being sexually active, and most 409 00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:30.960 people would agree that's really not a good thing on so many levels. Yeah, 410 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.990 increased pregnancy out of wedlock, the onslaught of stds, those were basically 411 00:30:36.109 --> 00:30:40.789 nonexistent before this sect. Well, that's not quite true. There was syphilis 412 00:30:40.950 --> 00:30:45.630 before the big sexual revolution, but but now there's a whole host of new 413 00:30:45.349 --> 00:30:52.660 sexually transmitted diseases. And and so it went from we went from the thought 414 00:30:52.859 --> 00:31:02.819 of Birth Control Liberating women to abortion being a valid choice and to really what 415 00:31:03.059 --> 00:31:08.769 God says about sexual purity outside of marriage is old. Yeah, and we 416 00:31:08.890 --> 00:31:14.890 don't need to abide by those in a modern society with all these ways of 417 00:31:15.089 --> 00:31:18.880 taking care of the bad the problems. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. 418 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.720 So, and another thing that I thought this was really interesting I got a 419 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:29.240 few statistics that really again shocked me as I read this. In one thousand 420 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:34.630 nineteen hundred six percent of unmarried women were sexually active. In nineteen ninety nine 421 00:31:36.349 --> 00:31:41.789 that increased to seventy five percent. Well, and this is, you know, 422 00:31:41.069 --> 00:31:47.259 outside of marriage. Seventy that's staggering. Yeah, that's really disturbing. 423 00:31:47.779 --> 00:31:52.980 And even more disturbing is, rather than reducing the extra marital pregnancy rate, 424 00:31:53.059 --> 00:31:59.900 which is what this birth control was supposed to do, it actually has increased. 425 00:32:00.980 --> 00:32:06.210 So in the the statistic that they cite is that the share of all 426 00:32:06.289 --> 00:32:13.210 pregnancy outside of marriage has increased from two percent in the S to thirty three 427 00:32:13.329 --> 00:32:20.319 percent in the nineteen ninety nine. So birth control has not decreased extra marital 428 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.640 pregnancy, it is increased it. Yeah, it makes sense. Everybody is 429 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:30.710 now seventy five percent of unmarried people are engaged in sexual activity outside of marriage. 430 00:32:30.710 --> 00:32:35.750 Yeah, yeah, so all these numbers just help us to understand kind 431 00:32:35.789 --> 00:32:39.309 of the floodgate being opened up right with this whole sexual revolution. Again, 432 00:32:39.349 --> 00:32:45.019 the these the sexual revolution and the birth control movement coincide with one another. 433 00:32:45.539 --> 00:32:49.500 We're not going to get in depth as far as the Margaret Singer in the 434 00:32:49.539 --> 00:32:52.339 birth control league and all that stuff. Yeah, just really wanted to equip 435 00:32:52.420 --> 00:32:57.619 you guys and spur you guys to think more biblically about this, think more 436 00:32:57.700 --> 00:33:02.890 biblically about children and the value of children, but also birth control, just 437 00:33:04.009 --> 00:33:07.930 in general, the mindsets, but just practically the effect that it could potentially 438 00:33:07.970 --> 00:33:10.849 have on ending the life of a baby. So again, that we have 439 00:33:10.970 --> 00:33:15.440 a biblical perspective on this, that we ourselves to our lives right, we 440 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:20.599 have to. The Bible says, remove the log from your eye so that 441 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.640 you can help your brother remove the speck from his eye. So if we're 442 00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:28.430 going along and we're talking about how evil it is for people to view children 443 00:33:28.470 --> 00:33:32.349 as property, and yet we ourselves are embracing this birth control mindset where children 444 00:33:32.349 --> 00:33:36.150 are really, in our minds, just a burden and we're willing to take 445 00:33:36.230 --> 00:33:38.349 pills that are potentially going to end the life of a baby in the womb 446 00:33:38.390 --> 00:33:42.339 ourselves. Who really got to get the log out of our own eye first? 447 00:33:42.380 --> 00:33:45.980 We got to examine our hearts before God first, and then we can 448 00:33:45.059 --> 00:33:50.299 help others right, see clearly, to get the speck out of their eye. 449 00:33:50.619 --> 00:33:53.420 Yeah, Amen. And so just encouraging you guys again to think about 450 00:33:53.420 --> 00:33:58.410 this biblically. Maybe you've got some pushback on this, maybe you've got a 451 00:33:58.450 --> 00:34:00.970 different perspective than we do. We certainly would love to hear your perspective. 452 00:34:01.369 --> 00:34:05.690 You can reach out to me Daniel at Love Life Dot Org. He reached 453 00:34:06.009 --> 00:34:08.210 her at Vicky at Love Life Dot Org. This is again not intended to 454 00:34:08.809 --> 00:34:13.599 bring guilt and condemnation all that, but just just spur you guys to love 455 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:15.599 and good works. Right. It's just spur you guys to think biblically. 456 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.320 So if you've got questions about this, if you've got things to add, 457 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.989 maybe, I don't know, maybe there's an expert about birth control out there 458 00:34:24.110 --> 00:34:29.110 that could give us some better perspective or something like that. We would certainly 459 00:34:29.150 --> 00:34:31.670 love to bring them on, whatever that looks like. Bring them on zoom 460 00:34:31.710 --> 00:34:36.429 or come here the office and recording. If you know somebody like that, 461 00:34:36.550 --> 00:34:38.059 reach out to us. Let us know. But we hope this has been 462 00:34:38.099 --> 00:34:40.659 an encouragement. Do you guys? Hope this has been a challenge to you 463 00:34:40.780 --> 00:34:47.219 guys? And with that we will wrap this thing up. So God bless 464 00:34:47.260 --> 00:34:54.730 you guys and we'll talk to you later. Give me our love for love. 465 00:34:59.329 --> 00:35:07.920 Give me our love for gratitude. I know it will cost me my 466 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:15.639 life. Nothing's too precious, and some that you