Sept. 18, 2019

Is God Really Prolife in the Old Testament?

Is God Really Prolife in the Old Testament?

As we read through certain Biblical passages, especially in the Old Testament, it can cause us to question whether or not God really is pro-life. We teach as pro-life Christians that God values human life. Do these passages say something...


As we read through certain Biblical passages, especially in the Old Testament, it can cause us to question whether or not God really is pro-life. We teach as pro-life Christians that God values human life. Do these passages say something different? Join us as we deal with some of these difficult Scriptures.

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.830 Lord, I am yours, I am your. Welcome to the Gospel Center 3 00:00:10.910 --> 00:00:13.869 pro life podcast. In this episode, Vicky and I are going to talk 4 00:00:13.910 --> 00:00:17.789 about whether or not God is pro life in the Old Testament. I hope 5 00:00:17.789 --> 00:00:27.660 you're blessed as you join us. Stay tuned. I felt show passish touch 6 00:00:28.100 --> 00:00:36.009 your heart. Use But welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. We 7 00:00:36.049 --> 00:00:39.450 appreciate all those who join us today. We're going to talk about some of 8 00:00:39.490 --> 00:00:45.689 the difficult passages of scripture that seem to indicate that God is okay with abortion. 9 00:00:46.770 --> 00:00:53.799 Sometime ago we did a podcast about some pro choice arguments and a lot 10 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:56.479 of those arguments had to do with you. In the Bible doesn't even mention 11 00:00:56.479 --> 00:01:00.240 abortion, or there's a passage in the Bible that talks about how God is 12 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.120 basically inducing an abortion and number chapter five, and so we talked about that, 13 00:01:04.189 --> 00:01:07.870 but you had sent me a message along the lines of talking about this 14 00:01:08.069 --> 00:01:14.230 and talking about well, you know, doesn't God encourage abortions in then in 15 00:01:14.310 --> 00:01:18.189 the Old Testament, and you know, there's certainly a lot of passages of 16 00:01:18.230 --> 00:01:22.540 scripture that are sort of troubling as it as it pertains to the issue of 17 00:01:22.579 --> 00:01:25.500 abortion and the value of life. And that's really what we're talking about, 18 00:01:25.540 --> 00:01:29.379 not just abortion, with the value of human life. And there are some 19 00:01:29.459 --> 00:01:33.090 some troubling passages of scripture, I think, that we all sort of grapple 20 00:01:33.209 --> 00:01:34.489 with and we all sort of struggle with. You know, how can the 21 00:01:34.569 --> 00:01:38.090 good God allow this or command that? And you know, of course, 22 00:01:38.250 --> 00:01:42.010 you know, all boils down to, you know, if we were going 23 00:01:42.010 --> 00:01:45.609 to some all of this up, is that he's God, he's the Lord. 24 00:01:45.890 --> 00:01:48.400 We're not right and we don't know the in from the beginning, but 25 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:52.239 he does still. Yeah, you know, that sort of like, you 26 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:56.959 know, sort of like just dodging the question really, like how can a 27 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:01.189 good God command these things? And and how does this fit into a prolife 28 00:02:01.310 --> 00:02:07.270 framework when we're talking about as Christians, it is our charge to stand for 29 00:02:07.389 --> 00:02:13.189 life, and yet supposedly our God doesn't stand for life, at least in 30 00:02:13.229 --> 00:02:15.819 the Old Testament. You some people have a mentality. Will jump right into 31 00:02:15.860 --> 00:02:17.139 these questions here in a minute, but you know, some people have the 32 00:02:17.219 --> 00:02:21.900 mentality sort of like, you know, God got saved in the New Testament 33 00:02:23.020 --> 00:02:25.060 and the Old Testament you know, he was, he was sort of mean 34 00:02:25.180 --> 00:02:29.340 and wrathful, but in the New Testament he's he's sort of Nice. Now, 35 00:02:29.699 --> 00:02:32.210 you know, and of course we know that the Bible tells us in 36 00:02:32.289 --> 00:02:36.409 the Old Testament I am the Lord, I change, not right. God 37 00:02:36.530 --> 00:02:42.889 throughout Old and New Testament is merciful, he's kind, he is rich in 38 00:02:43.129 --> 00:02:46.439 mercy, slow to anger and rich and loving kindness. But this is this 39 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:50.759 idea, of course, with some people who just have a misunderstanding of God, 40 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.159 and of course he sort of benefits them to be able to accuse God 41 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:58.479 of being fathful and angry and mean, because they can remain in their sin 42 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:00.270 and not obey him because, after all, he's no better than they are 43 00:03:00.349 --> 00:03:02.990 in their minds. And maybe they haven't read revelation. Yeah, maybe, 44 00:03:04.229 --> 00:03:07.069 yeah, they don't know how the how this whole thing is. But you 45 00:03:07.150 --> 00:03:10.789 know, we do need to grapple with and try to answer these questions. 46 00:03:12.389 --> 00:03:15.860 So so let's sort of jump into some of the the information that you have 47 00:03:15.180 --> 00:03:19.580 and, okay, talk about some of these troubling passage. Yeah, scripture. 48 00:03:19.659 --> 00:03:23.259 Yeah. So, so I was thinking that on a walk today. 49 00:03:23.300 --> 00:03:25.780 I was I was thinking, well, is God pro life? You know, 50 00:03:25.900 --> 00:03:30.689 we do get lots of questions from from the pro socup pro choice people 51 00:03:30.770 --> 00:03:35.289 saying, well, you know, God is the greatest mass murder of history. 52 00:03:35.370 --> 00:03:38.050 You want to talk about a Holocaust, talk about God. Yeah, 53 00:03:38.169 --> 00:03:44.759 you know, coming and ordering the Israelites to to wipe out entire civilizations and 54 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:46.800 Noah's flood and all that kind of stuff, and those are you know that 55 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:50.840 it's an important question. It shouldn't be just brushed off. It is. 56 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.400 Yeah, it those sorts of questions kept me from the Lord and I think 57 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.069 they keep a lot of people from the Lord. So I do think it's 58 00:03:57.110 --> 00:04:00.710 it helps us to talk about them. And I'm hardly an expert, in 59 00:04:00.830 --> 00:04:04.590 fact, I started really looking at some of this stuff just this morning. 60 00:04:04.669 --> 00:04:11.539 Yes, but but one of the things that came across as I was thinking 61 00:04:11.580 --> 00:04:15.780 about it. So is, is God pro life or Pro Choice? Actually, 62 00:04:15.819 --> 00:04:18.459 Google that is God pro life and there's all kinds of hits. Where 63 00:04:18.660 --> 00:04:23.740 is God pro life? And one of the hits was from this this group 64 00:04:23.819 --> 00:04:29.449 called Freedom From Religion Foundation? Okay, yeah, okay, so guess. 65 00:04:29.689 --> 00:04:33.689 Yeah, Wonderful Group. Yeah, and the Reverend, I think it's Barry 66 00:04:33.810 --> 00:04:39.680 Lynn, is the guys. Okay, you know pro abortion, claim to 67 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:42.959 be a reverend, yet is against everything God is for and for everything God 68 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:46.040 is against. It's sort of right prediction. But anyway. Well, this 69 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:51.480 particular article is called God is so not pro life. Okay, Anna, 70 00:04:53.550 --> 00:04:59.829 right, exactly. So, so I started going through and and reading the 71 00:05:00.589 --> 00:05:03.430 points that he makes for why God is not pro life. So so not 72 00:05:03.589 --> 00:05:08.259 so for a life. So I'll tell you them and I'll give you the 73 00:05:08.379 --> 00:05:13.819 reference so that maybe you can we can talk about okay, so this one 74 00:05:13.939 --> 00:05:20.060 says God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including, quote, cursed shall be 75 00:05:20.180 --> 00:05:24.850 the fruit of your womb and, quote, you will eat the fruit of 76 00:05:24.930 --> 00:05:30.290 your womb, directly contradicting sanctity of life claims. Okay, and so this 77 00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:35.600 is deuteronomy twenty eight, okay. And and the there were two verses that 78 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:41.439 he picked out of that, verse eighteen and verse fifty three. Yeah, 79 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.279 so it says deronomy. This is a new King James version. I don't 80 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.709 know what version he's quoting there. Probably the new leftist Liberal version. This 81 00:05:49.910 --> 00:05:54.589 is the new King James and it says cursed shall be the fruit of your 82 00:05:54.629 --> 00:06:00.470 body. And actually the title of this section and my Bible is curses on 83 00:06:00.790 --> 00:06:05.060 disobedience. It begins with the blessings on obedience, though, so that's telling 84 00:06:05.139 --> 00:06:10.180 us how that chapter begins its curses on the curse on disobedience. Curse shall 85 00:06:10.180 --> 00:06:13.339 be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, in the 86 00:06:13.420 --> 00:06:16.180 increase of your cat, on the offspring give your flocks. Curses shall be 87 00:06:16.339 --> 00:06:19.610 when you come in and curses shall be when you go out, and the 88 00:06:19.689 --> 00:06:24.370 Lord will send a curse. Send on you, cursing, confusion, rebuke. 89 00:06:24.769 --> 00:06:28.370 And then it goes on to ultimately, where's what's the the first exactly 90 00:06:29.009 --> 00:06:31.529 case, fifty three. Yeah, and it says because there's a lot of 91 00:06:31.649 --> 00:06:35.000 cursed, will you be cursed? Dis Curse of right. Yeah, he 92 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:38.839 starts out in that chapter. Blessed will you be when you come in, 93 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.439 when you go out. Blessed be your cure crops and your flocks and all 94 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.680 of this this. When you follow God, there's obvious obedience and then here's 95 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:47.350 the disobean ex thanks. It's the curses. So we'll skip on down the 96 00:06:47.389 --> 00:06:51.629 verse. Fifty three. And you shall eat. This is pretty pretty hefty 97 00:06:51.709 --> 00:06:56.589 here. And Yeah, and pretty pretty gross actually. You shall eat the 98 00:06:56.629 --> 00:07:00.069 fruit of your own body, the flesh of your son's and your daughter's, 99 00:07:00.189 --> 00:07:03.660 whom the Lord, your God, has given you in the siege and desperate 100 00:07:03.819 --> 00:07:09.420 Straits in which your enemy shall distress you. Yeah, yeah, so there's 101 00:07:09.500 --> 00:07:12.420 like God is like saying, ha ha, you know, I'm not pro 102 00:07:13.139 --> 00:07:16.170 life at all. I'm pro abortion even, and I ump even want you 103 00:07:16.209 --> 00:07:18.649 to eat your kids. Yeah, it's kind of what's and play it, 104 00:07:18.810 --> 00:07:23.050 but right, and and that's what this guy that's the conclusion he comes to. 105 00:07:23.209 --> 00:07:28.769 But really it's it's it's talking about the prophecy of what is going to 106 00:07:28.850 --> 00:07:33.279 happen if you disobey God compared to when you obey God. And and the 107 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:38.759 point is that he talks about the fruit of your room eating the fruit of 108 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:45.470 your womb, because it's so horrific, it's shocking, a natural, cruel 109 00:07:46.189 --> 00:07:49.990 and inhuman. And it it in fact demonstrates the opposite point of what your 110 00:07:50.029 --> 00:07:56.509 sky makes. It demonstrates that that that is the absolute worst thing you don't 111 00:07:56.589 --> 00:08:01.620 do. And that's the result, then, of sin. We're SOLIN and 112 00:08:01.660 --> 00:08:05.019 disobedience. Yeah, me. So one of the the major points here. 113 00:08:05.180 --> 00:08:09.699 It's, you know, God is to Israel a father. Right, God 114 00:08:09.860 --> 00:08:13.329 is a father to us as Christians, but to Israel he's a father and 115 00:08:13.370 --> 00:08:18.810 it's like a father warning. Here's two things going on, here's here's blessing 116 00:08:18.889 --> 00:08:22.129 and here's cursing, and here's two choices that are before you. And if 117 00:08:22.129 --> 00:08:26.519 you walk in the blessing, which is walking in obedience, acknowledge my commands, 118 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:31.240 do as I direct you to do, then here's the blessings that are 119 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.480 going to come. You're basically everything that you do will be blessed. That's 120 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.440 IT, Huh. On the other hand, if you walk in disobedience, 121 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:41.830 here's going to be the result, and it's not just that God's going to 122 00:08:41.909 --> 00:08:46.830 directly influence you to eat your children. What he's warning is is you're going 123 00:08:46.830 --> 00:08:50.350 to be seized by these other nations. It's like the protective hand of God 124 00:08:52.029 --> 00:08:54.710 that's over the children of Israel, in covenant with them, is going to 125 00:08:54.779 --> 00:09:00.700 protect them from the from the Pagans they are surrounding them, but that protective 126 00:09:00.740 --> 00:09:05.340 hand will be lifted by their disobedience and these pagan nations are going to seege, 127 00:09:05.419 --> 00:09:11.009 and he's referring, I mean ultimately this does happen. This happens and 128 00:09:11.090 --> 00:09:15.210 we're going to go to that passage and Isaiah, where God this this thing 129 00:09:15.250 --> 00:09:18.889 is come to pass, or at least you know the prophet talks about this. 130 00:09:18.009 --> 00:09:22.929 This is God warning. You know, some kind of like me with 131 00:09:22.049 --> 00:09:24.679 my kids, you know. You know I got you this new bike and 132 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.279 want you to enjoy riding this bike, and it's great. If you ride 133 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.120 it here on the little side road, that's fine, but if you ride 134 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:35.000 it on the interstate, you're not only going to ruin your bike, but 135 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.480 you're going to get hit by a car, you're going to get rolled under 136 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.470 a transfer trick and get hipped open. We're going to get what you're you're 137 00:09:41.470 --> 00:09:43.590 not going to rip him open right. It's a kind of the reason going 138 00:09:43.629 --> 00:09:46.389 to be the result of disobedience, and that's sort of sort of what the 139 00:09:46.509 --> 00:09:50.750 Lord's doing here. He's he's taking it to the extreme and saying, okay, 140 00:09:50.750 --> 00:09:54.259 it's not just going to be that you skin your knee and fall off 141 00:09:54.340 --> 00:09:56.659 your bike, but you're gonna be total ruin. You know, in that 142 00:09:56.740 --> 00:10:01.620 picture of a father toward his towards his child. Yeah, and child sacrifice 143 00:10:01.980 --> 00:10:05.659 was one of the that was what the Pagan nations were doing. Yeah, 144 00:10:05.659 --> 00:10:09.370 and that was one of the things that God really railed against when he had 145 00:10:09.769 --> 00:10:13.129 pulled his chosen people out and said you will be different, you will be 146 00:10:13.169 --> 00:10:20.250 separate, you from this, you will not do this horrific, unnatural activity 147 00:10:20.409 --> 00:10:22.679 that the Pagan nations were doing. Okay, so now this is probably the 148 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.519 the verson is Aa that you were talking about. It is a AE thousand, 149 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:33.320 threeteen and eighteen. So he is Ayah is propheesized, prophesying the doom 150 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:39.309 for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children. Yeah, and so so 151 00:10:39.590 --> 00:10:50.340 this this site claims that this is showing that that God has is certainly not 152 00:10:50.899 --> 00:10:54.019 a pro life, not not asserting the sanctity of life, but in fact 153 00:10:54.139 --> 00:10:58.139 is declaring that not one of his people will live, not a man, 154 00:10:58.259 --> 00:11:01.740 woman or child, not even babies in the arms, as a result of 155 00:11:01.899 --> 00:11:07.690 worshiping idols. So what's that passage actually say? It's as a three eighteen, 156 00:11:07.850 --> 00:11:11.250 three hundred and eighteen says. Also, their bows will dash the young 157 00:11:11.330 --> 00:11:15.730 men to pieces and they will have no pity on the fruit of the womb 158 00:11:16.529 --> 00:11:20.559 there are. Will Not spare children. Okay, yeah, yeah, so 159 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.919 when when I read further about what was happening during that time? This was 160 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.440 the prophecy again. It was a prophecy. It's prophesying, not it's not 161 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:35.990 saying God wants this to happen, it's saying this is what happens as a 162 00:11:37.149 --> 00:11:43.269 result of Cyrus, of the notorious, notoriously cruel needs would do this. 163 00:11:43.669 --> 00:11:48.500 Okay, not, God, right, God's not. God doesn't want us 164 00:11:48.500 --> 00:11:50.940 to do this. He makes it clear he doesn't want us to do this. 165 00:11:50.419 --> 00:12:00.580 But this barbaric invading group was going to perpetrate this on these unborn children. 166 00:12:00.620 --> 00:12:05.169 And again it's seen as horrific. Yeah, yeah, I mean the 167 00:12:05.570 --> 00:12:09.690 point here again is the warning of the Lord. You know, God is 168 00:12:09.809 --> 00:12:16.480 warning the children of Israel of the destruction that comes through their rebellion against him. 169 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.279 The Commands of God in the Old Testament to the children of Israel. 170 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.559 There's there some weird commands there. Most of them are sort of practical, 171 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:31.950 right. I mean we talked about the last podcast we did about some of 172 00:12:31.990 --> 00:12:35.830 the biblical like the pro abortion people's biblical objections to the pro life stands, 173 00:12:35.950 --> 00:12:43.190 you know, answering pro choice arguments. And you know that passage in exitus 174 00:12:43.190 --> 00:12:46.220 chapter twenty one where if two men were fighting together and they heard a pregnant 175 00:12:46.220 --> 00:12:50.620 woman and she gives birth. You know, we will go through all that, 176 00:12:50.700 --> 00:12:54.659 but that's sort of practical, right. But there's some other stuff in 177 00:12:54.779 --> 00:12:58.570 the Old Testament. We were like, okay, you can't have to can't 178 00:12:58.610 --> 00:13:01.970 have a garment made with two types of threads. Like, what are these 179 00:13:01.210 --> 00:13:05.289 things? You can't. Here's here's a here's a fun one. You're not 180 00:13:05.370 --> 00:13:09.009 supposed to cook a kid goat and its mother's milk, right, which you 181 00:13:09.090 --> 00:13:13.679 know that's a strong temptation for me because I like cooking kid coats in their 182 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.840 mother's milk. Right, you're like looking at that and that's ridiculous, right, 183 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.600 like what does that even mean? But these things had some sort of 184 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.120 significance to do with the pagan nations that were around. You know, one 185 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.110 of those commands is you should not sacrifice your children, burn them in the 186 00:13:28.230 --> 00:13:31.870 fire to Molich. Right. These are one of those commands that God gave 187 00:13:31.990 --> 00:13:37.269 the Children Israel, and they were commands to preserve, to preserve the children 188 00:13:37.309 --> 00:13:41.220 of Israel so that they don't go the way of the Pagan nations, because 189 00:13:41.299 --> 00:13:46.460 the pagan nations were so cruel in the way that they treated right. You 190 00:13:46.539 --> 00:13:50.899 know, anybody unborn children, born children, women, all of this, 191 00:13:52.179 --> 00:13:56.090 and God's have a better way for you. And so these were protective and 192 00:13:56.409 --> 00:14:01.490 again, these were warning the children of Israel that here's what can be the 193 00:14:01.570 --> 00:14:05.690 result. These pagan nations got us saying are merciless, right, so much 194 00:14:05.769 --> 00:14:09.970 so that they'll even rip open the womb of a pregnant woman. Will talk 195 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.120 about that passage in just a second. Yeah, that they'll rip open the 196 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.120 womb of a pregnant woman and and dash the baby to the ground. Right, 197 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:22.639 and it's like God saying that's really, really wicked. That's how bad 198 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.509 these pagan nations. Exactly exactly merciless. They are, exactly so. And 199 00:14:26.669 --> 00:14:30.470 in fact, I think that is the next one. Yeah, and that's 200 00:14:30.470 --> 00:14:33.590 an amost amus. Sweet, not there yet. Let's go to that one. 201 00:14:33.590 --> 00:14:35.070 Yeah, let's go to Jose A. Nine, okay, ten, 202 00:14:35.230 --> 00:14:41.580 just sixteen, and I'm so this is saying, Oh, this is that 203 00:14:41.700 --> 00:14:46.500 one for rebelling against God. Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will 204 00:14:46.500 --> 00:14:50.860 be to death against the ground and the pregnant women will be ripped up him 205 00:14:50.899 --> 00:14:54.210 with with M go word. So again, the the author, who is, 206 00:14:56.610 --> 00:15:00.450 you know, the freedom from religion author, says that this is proof 207 00:15:01.169 --> 00:15:07.200 that, because God treats rebellion against God by by dashing babies to death and 208 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:11.240 ripping open pregnant women. So yeah, he is clearly not a pro life 209 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:15.240 God. So so let's see. So what does it actually say? This 210 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:20.720 Josiah nine and he cites ten to sixteen. Okay, I found Israel like 211 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:24.269 grapes in the Wilderness. I saw your father's as a furdge, fruits of 212 00:15:24.629 --> 00:15:28.110 on the fig tree and its first season. But they went to bail pure 213 00:15:28.789 --> 00:15:33.909 and separated themselves to that shame. They become an abomination like the thing that 214 00:15:33.070 --> 00:15:39.340 they loved. So they worshiped this false god, this bail as Ephraim, 215 00:15:39.500 --> 00:15:43.220 for their glory shall fly like, fly away, like a bird. No 216 00:15:43.419 --> 00:15:46.259 birth, no pregnancy, no conception. Here's a point, though, to 217 00:15:46.340 --> 00:15:50.730 sort of not rabbit trail, but go on with this, this theme here, 218 00:15:52.009 --> 00:15:58.049 that children are viewed in Israel as a blessing. Right, and so 219 00:15:58.169 --> 00:16:02.330 the idea that, you know, when God made his covenor initially with the 220 00:16:02.370 --> 00:16:04.559 children of Israel, he says, I will bless your bread in your water. 221 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:08.639 This is an exitus twenty five, I believe, where he says I'll 222 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.519 bless your bread and your water, and this is again a covenant of Obedience. 223 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.519 If you remain an obedient to me, I will bless your bread and 224 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:19.190 your water, no one will miscarry in your land. So I'm going to 225 00:16:19.269 --> 00:16:22.269 bless your food and nobody's going to miscarry, and no in the new animals 226 00:16:22.269 --> 00:16:26.309 are going to miss car because miscarriage is always seen as a result of the 227 00:16:26.389 --> 00:16:29.669 fall, a part of the curse, of part of disobedience. It's not 228 00:16:29.990 --> 00:16:33.460 God, because the picture from a guy like this, this this pro abortion, 229 00:16:33.539 --> 00:16:36.860 guys like God's writhe in his hands, waiting to be able to kill 230 00:16:36.940 --> 00:16:40.100 some children in the womb. Whatever. It's like ridiculous. So this is 231 00:16:40.139 --> 00:16:42.779 actually the opposite. He's saying this is part of the curse and that he's 232 00:16:42.820 --> 00:16:45.860 talking about that here. No birth, no pregnancy, no conception. That 233 00:16:45.980 --> 00:16:52.129 would be a tremendous curse on the children of Israel, and so though they 234 00:16:52.210 --> 00:16:55.889 bring up their children, they will brave them to the last man. Yes, 235 00:16:56.009 --> 00:16:57.929 woe to them when I depart from them. So here's that, that 236 00:16:59.129 --> 00:17:02.200 language of the Lord saying I'm going to depart from them in the sense that 237 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:06.200 his hand of protection is going to go, and that's what happens with our 238 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:11.119 sin. Our sin separates us from from God. I'll going down to the 239 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:15.509 to the last first okay, Verse Sixteen. E FREHIM is stricken the rudest, 240 00:17:15.509 --> 00:17:19.789 dried up. They shall bear no fruit. Yes, yes, were 241 00:17:19.829 --> 00:17:23.150 they to bear children, I would kill the darlings of their womb. And 242 00:17:23.269 --> 00:17:29.869 so that's sort of you know this, this this passage that is implied from 243 00:17:29.869 --> 00:17:33.980 this guy, to imagine that God is sort of like writhe in his hands 244 00:17:33.059 --> 00:17:37.299 at excited about killing babies in the womb. But again, it's a warning. 245 00:17:37.420 --> 00:17:42.859 It's a warning of what these pagan nations are capable of and what they 246 00:17:42.900 --> 00:17:48.809 actually will do with with the children of Israel, if God's hand of protection 247 00:17:48.970 --> 00:17:52.089 is not on them. Yeah, and again, the commentary that that I 248 00:17:52.369 --> 00:18:00.160 read said that Joseah, the prophet, is again for telling what what will 249 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:03.880 happen. Is this the hose that? Yeah, what will happen as a 250 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:08.200 result of their rebellion against God? And it describes the cruelties upon these hapless 251 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:15.589 people by the Assyrians in sacking the city. So it's speaking of the barbarity 252 00:18:15.029 --> 00:18:21.670 that would be perpetrated by the ammonites on the women of Gilead. Nowhere does 253 00:18:21.710 --> 00:18:26.309 it say that Israel will do such barbaric cruelty to God's children. Won't be 254 00:18:26.349 --> 00:18:32.019 doing this, but it is these invading people that will be who are idolaters 255 00:18:32.099 --> 00:18:34.660 and hate God and don't follow God, and this is the result of that, 256 00:18:34.740 --> 00:18:40.339 that turning from God and the disobedience against God, which is the common 257 00:18:40.420 --> 00:18:44.170 theme, yeah, that we're seeing throughout that. In fact, I read 258 00:18:44.170 --> 00:18:51.529 another article this morning which was really interesting, saying is God prolife or pro 259 00:18:51.650 --> 00:18:55.839 choice? I think was the title of it, and and the the author 260 00:18:55.920 --> 00:19:00.559 concluded he was both. M He's Prolife, he his desires for us, 261 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:04.400 the way we were designed, is to protect and and promote sanctity of life, 262 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:11.309 but he also is pro choice in the sense, not at all in 263 00:19:11.390 --> 00:19:15.390 the sense that pro choice is used today, yeah, but in the sense 264 00:19:15.470 --> 00:19:18.109 that we are given a choice. Yeah, we are given a choice by 265 00:19:18.269 --> 00:19:22.430 God to either follow him and obey, where there will be cursings, or 266 00:19:23.190 --> 00:19:29.779 rebel against him and disobey and and they're there are consequences there. H hearses. 267 00:19:30.140 --> 00:19:33.900 Yeah, I mean the Deuteronomy passage that we quote a lot. I 268 00:19:33.019 --> 00:19:37.299 sat before you this day, life and death, blessing and cursing, okay. 269 00:19:37.380 --> 00:19:41.210 So here's like the quiz. Right. This is what I explain to 270 00:19:41.289 --> 00:19:44.490 some when I have conversations with abortion minded women or man. It says like 271 00:19:44.529 --> 00:19:48.529 God's given you a quiz and there's two two questions on that quiz, or 272 00:19:48.569 --> 00:19:55.279 two answers, life, blessing, death and cursing. So you check which 273 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:59.000 everyone and he's giving you the answer. Therefore, choose life. Right. 274 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:02.359 So he's giving you the quiz and he's giving you the answer. So God 275 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.079 shows us the way that he wants to to go in. But there is 276 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:11.430 before human beings, there is the ability to choose. God has given people 277 00:20:11.509 --> 00:20:14.829 the ability to choose. You know, I hear people, you know, 278 00:20:14.869 --> 00:20:18.910 when we encounter people at the abortion clinic and and and even pro choice people 279 00:20:18.910 --> 00:20:22.259 will say something like, you know, God gives us the freedom to choose. 280 00:20:22.859 --> 00:20:26.779 God gives us the right to choose. Yes, he certainly does. 281 00:20:26.819 --> 00:20:30.700 I mean that's the US kind of the point. But just because God gives 282 00:20:30.740 --> 00:20:34.579 you the ability to choose does not mean he's okay with the choice that you 283 00:20:34.700 --> 00:20:37.089 make, because he's very clear about it. Right. It's a matter of 284 00:20:37.089 --> 00:20:42.809 fact. It's the choices that we make and the the results of those choices 285 00:20:42.849 --> 00:20:47.369 that ultimately we're going to give an account before God for. So it's what 286 00:20:47.569 --> 00:20:52.599 you choose when you are faced with the decision life and death, blessing and 287 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.599 cursing, that you'll be held accountable for. God, for your free will, 288 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.039 is that which you'll be held accountable for. That's right. And even 289 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:06.269 though you know, God is the law giver and we kind of Mimic that 290 00:21:06.549 --> 00:21:11.470 in in making laws in our nations, and and so you know, they, 291 00:21:11.710 --> 00:21:15.230 I think the proborts will say, well, it's legal, so so 292 00:21:15.109 --> 00:21:21.539 it's okay. But while God does give us the ability to make unjust laws, 293 00:21:21.660 --> 00:21:26.019 he's his his laws for his people were just laws and that is clearly 294 00:21:26.220 --> 00:21:30.859 the path that he wants us to follow. But we choose again to disregard 295 00:21:30.940 --> 00:21:36.410 that. Yeah, so, okay. Let's see. Here's one from the 296 00:21:36.450 --> 00:21:42.369 New Testament. This is in Matthew Nineteen. Okay, this is still from 297 00:21:42.450 --> 00:21:47.640 the the pro abortion. Freedom from religion. Yeah, from religion. Okay. 298 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:52.519 He said Jesus in this passage did not express any special concern for unboard 299 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:59.640 and children during the anticipated end times. He says woe to pregnant women and 300 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:06.190 those who are nursing. So this author is saying, Jesus is basically cursing, 301 00:22:06.589 --> 00:22:10.549 okay, the pregnant women and those who are nursing. He's saying, 302 00:22:10.710 --> 00:22:14.789 woe to them. It almost as a curse. Now that certainly it's not 303 00:22:14.869 --> 00:22:17.539 how I read that pass yeah, no, not at all. That's like 304 00:22:17.779 --> 00:22:19.539 this is this is again. It's the warning. Come Jesus, this is 305 00:22:22.059 --> 00:22:30.049 this curse, this time of destruction is coming. He's not saying like it's 306 00:22:30.170 --> 00:22:33.809 bad to be pregnant or to be nursing, but we say it's going to 307 00:22:33.849 --> 00:22:40.329 be really bad for everybody, but especially for these women who are pregnant, 308 00:22:40.369 --> 00:22:44.440 who are nursing. Right. So again it's a it's a warning, it's 309 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:48.279 a call from Jesus to the people of his day of here's what the destruction 310 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:53.279 is going to entail, and be prepared for it and repent. I mean 311 00:22:53.319 --> 00:23:00.269 there's a passage and several passages in Isaiah, where Isaiah is pronouncing judgments. 312 00:23:00.990 --> 00:23:03.710 He's saying this is how it's going to be unless perhaps you might repent and 313 00:23:03.869 --> 00:23:08.549 God would give you mercy. So it's like the Prophet always holds out hope 314 00:23:08.869 --> 00:23:11.430 that and in we see it as a pattern, right, we see it 315 00:23:11.549 --> 00:23:15.380 with with Jonah. Yeah, I think it was you that were. You 316 00:23:15.460 --> 00:23:19.059 were talking about you reading through Jonah not too long ago and how God had 317 00:23:19.180 --> 00:23:23.539 basically told Jonah, Jonah, you're going to go to nine A. I've 318 00:23:23.539 --> 00:23:26.450 already decided I'm going to judge these people, so you're just going to go 319 00:23:26.690 --> 00:23:30.450 deliver the mail and then the judgment's coming. Right, they're going to be 320 00:23:30.049 --> 00:23:34.690 completely decimated. Jonah goes thinking he's just delivering the Mail and God's not going 321 00:23:34.730 --> 00:23:38.250 to be merciful. They all repent, set cloth and ashes and fast for 322 00:23:38.329 --> 00:23:41.680 like forty days. Everybody right. When it forty days, I do again. 323 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:45.880 They definitely they turned the right they turned to God. What God do? 324 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.440 He relented. He actually actually turned back, even though he had said 325 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:52.599 I'm going to do this. God has this ability to change his mind if 326 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:57.150 he wants to. Now we can get into a subject about the sovereignty of 327 00:23:57.230 --> 00:24:02.029 God and the immutability of God and all this other stuff. Right, I 328 00:24:02.069 --> 00:24:06.710 don't think that's a subject for this particular podcast, but it is, you 329 00:24:06.789 --> 00:24:11.180 know, amazing to see that God intended these judgments. But really we see 330 00:24:11.259 --> 00:24:15.819 what his heart really is every time. His heart is one of mercy and 331 00:24:17.099 --> 00:24:23.059 one of a disposition of good will toward those who would just agree with him 332 00:24:23.099 --> 00:24:26.650 and just turned to him right, right. And you know what we were 333 00:24:26.690 --> 00:24:33.089 talking about a little bit earlier, which is a really important passage for me, 334 00:24:33.329 --> 00:24:36.769 was which exactly, I think illustrates this point, is the passage of 335 00:24:36.890 --> 00:24:42.079 when Abraham is is told to to sacrifice EZE and that that that he's posted 336 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:47.519 to bring Isaac up to the mountain and and sacrifice his only son, the 337 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:51.799 son of the of the promise that God had given to that would, you 338 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.829 know, be the father of men nations. And and so Abraham does, 339 00:24:57.109 --> 00:25:02.910 he he he brings Isaac up to the mountain and he binds him and puts 340 00:25:02.950 --> 00:25:07.859 him on the altar. And and for four years that kept me from the 341 00:25:07.980 --> 00:25:14.339 Lord because I'm thinking, how cruel is this God? I could I could 342 00:25:14.500 --> 00:25:18.619 never follow a God that would tell us turn off your maternal instincts or your 343 00:25:18.660 --> 00:25:26.450 paternal instincts and and sacrifice your only child for me and I completely didn't understand 344 00:25:26.730 --> 00:25:32.170 that passage and and didn't want to follow a God that would ask that. 345 00:25:32.849 --> 00:25:40.240 But really I think God was making again a really important point that unless God 346 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:49.000 is primary of such importance that all else is is secondary and pales in comparison 347 00:25:49.630 --> 00:25:55.150 to the love of God and following God and obeying God, because he is 348 00:25:55.190 --> 00:25:57.349 our creator, he is the one that holds eternity in his hands, and 349 00:25:59.109 --> 00:26:04.940 until we come to that realization we will never truly submit our life to him 350 00:26:04.940 --> 00:26:11.900 and never truly overcome sin, because we think that that our agenda is more 351 00:26:11.940 --> 00:26:18.140 important. And Abraham came to that understanding. He trusted God, and whether 352 00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:22.769 he trusted that God was going to provide the sacrifice, switch ultimately God did, 353 00:26:22.289 --> 00:26:26.089 or whether he thought God would bring Isaac back to life, or whether 354 00:26:26.130 --> 00:26:30.089 he thought, I'm going to do it because God has told me to do 355 00:26:30.250 --> 00:26:34.759 it and God is more important even than my son. Yeah, and he 356 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:40.880 was willing to do it and he raises the knife to to sacrifice Isaac and 357 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.240 God stays his hand and to me that is that is exactly what happened in 358 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:51.470 Jonah. It's exactly what happens to Noah and his family. It's what happens 359 00:26:51.630 --> 00:26:56.990 to lot in in the story of Sodom and go Morah. It's what happens 360 00:26:56.069 --> 00:27:02.859 to every single one of us when we are on the cusp of hell, 361 00:27:03.140 --> 00:27:08.299 of destruction, of eternal separation from God, and God waits for us to 362 00:27:08.339 --> 00:27:14.779 say, I'm sorry, yeah, and I will submit to whatever it is 363 00:27:15.259 --> 00:27:19.809 that that your plan is for my life, and at that moment he frees 364 00:27:19.849 --> 00:27:22.529 us and we saved. Yeah, Sin It, you know. It's so 365 00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:26.690 Abraham is called and actually there's a passage in the New Testament, believe it's 366 00:27:26.690 --> 00:27:29.930 in Romans, where it talks about, you know, God, God, 367 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.559 or maybe it's he breathed chapter live in the hall of faith, where it 368 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.119 says, basically, Abraham knew that God was able to raise up Isaac back 369 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:40.960 from the dead, like God had promised that the promise is going to come, 370 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.190 the blessing, because we're going to come through Isaac to Abraham. And 371 00:27:45.829 --> 00:27:48.230 even though God told him to sacrifice Isaac, he knew, since God say 372 00:27:48.309 --> 00:27:52.549 said this is going to happen, the blessing is going to come through Isaac, 373 00:27:52.670 --> 00:27:53.910 then if I kill him, then God's just going to have to raise 374 00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:57.190 him from the dead. He had that much confidence in God and that's why 375 00:27:57.269 --> 00:28:02.059 he is the father of faith. And what's sort of funny to me. 376 00:28:02.339 --> 00:28:06.900 Okay, it's amazing, but it's also sort of funny, and you gotta 377 00:28:07.019 --> 00:28:11.740 just ever use your imagination to like how would this actually play out in real 378 00:28:11.859 --> 00:28:15.730 life? How did this play out? The the the night that Abraham told 379 00:28:15.769 --> 00:28:17.609 Sarah, Hey, you know, listen, God, tell me to get 380 00:28:17.609 --> 00:28:19.809 a sacrifice. I'M gonna go as are only son. So he jed I. 381 00:28:21.410 --> 00:28:25.569 So here's the funny thing, though. It says that Abraham got up 382 00:28:25.690 --> 00:28:29.559 early and did it. I'm like, man, okay, can out. 383 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.599 So that his well, it's like he's gonna get to it right away. 384 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:33.799 Take Care, it's just going to get so it's like for me, I'm 385 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.240 thinking in my life, man, I'm going to drag my feet. I'm 386 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:38.880 I'm going to wait till if he told me to do it tomorrow, that 387 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.230 I'll do it at one hundred and fifty nine. So, you know, 388 00:28:41.869 --> 00:28:45.349 fifty nine pm, I'll take care of it, but you know, I'm 389 00:28:45.349 --> 00:28:48.990 gonna Drag my vie. Abraham like got up early, went, you know, 390 00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:53.390 and him and Isaac went on that epic camping trip, and camping trips 391 00:28:53.430 --> 00:29:00.460 were never the same around Abraham's house, House, to make a little funny 392 00:29:00.500 --> 00:29:04.299 of that, but that's that's amazing, amazing story. Yeah, to think 393 00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:11.690 sort of to your point, God is the supreme being right he is the 394 00:29:11.809 --> 00:29:15.609 creator, he is the Potter and we are the clay and he is do 395 00:29:15.890 --> 00:29:19.049 our devotion. Ultimately, kind of like we started, you know, no 396 00:29:19.130 --> 00:29:26.599 matter what conclusion we come to about these passages, we are not God's accuser. 397 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.279 He is the Lord. He can command whatever he wants. And when 398 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:37.000 God commands something, for example, and maybe will in the future do and 399 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.630 I think we should do a podcast specifically about God's command to Israel and going 400 00:29:41.670 --> 00:29:45.990 into the promised land and how he commanded them to wipe out everyone. And 401 00:29:45.150 --> 00:29:48.829 that's a that's a pretty heavy one that we that we grapple with. But 402 00:29:48.990 --> 00:29:53.740 ultimately God, when he makes a command like that, God can't be a 403 00:29:53.779 --> 00:29:57.779 murderer. It's not in his nature, right. He is perfect, he 404 00:29:59.059 --> 00:30:06.339 is holy and he is God and and Israel was to obey him. But 405 00:30:06.420 --> 00:30:10.170 ultimately that's what it boils down to. God is God and we're not. 406 00:30:11.089 --> 00:30:15.529 We are not God, and we have in his word, not that God 407 00:30:15.650 --> 00:30:18.690 got saved in the New Testament, like I started with. What we have 408 00:30:18.809 --> 00:30:22.920 in his word this charge to love even our enemies, to love our neighbor 409 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:30.160 as ourselves. That passage love your neighbor as yourself is actually an echo from 410 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.880 the old testament when God tell the Jender of Israel to love your neighbor as 411 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:40.390 yourself. So to imagine that the the norm for God, for the God 412 00:30:40.470 --> 00:30:44.109 of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, is to just be a baby murderer for 413 00:30:44.230 --> 00:30:47.710 abortion all it is, is an absurdity. Yeah, it's a matter of 414 00:30:47.750 --> 00:30:52.099 fact. He often is contrasting his nature, in the nature of his children, 415 00:30:52.339 --> 00:30:57.420 with the nature of these pagan nations and these pagan false gods who desired 416 00:30:59.140 --> 00:31:03.420 blood and and and human sacrifice and all these other things. And you know, 417 00:31:03.500 --> 00:31:07.170 like the false god bail that. You know they sacrifice their children to 418 00:31:07.450 --> 00:31:10.609 to Molich and yet into the bales and Astra. And let me make sure. 419 00:31:10.650 --> 00:31:14.329 I don't want you to close us before could do this last yeah, 420 00:31:14.529 --> 00:31:17.569 passage, because any of the really a great one. Amos, one and 421 00:31:17.609 --> 00:31:22.960 thirteen. Yeah, because when I read that, and I read that last 422 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.079 week before. I maybe that was what started me thinking that this might be 423 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.200 an interest of podcast, but I read it last week and was thinking, 424 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:36.950 Wow, I think this is God saying as clearly as he could say abortion 425 00:31:37.549 --> 00:31:41.349 is wrong. Yeah, and he would not have us do it. So 426 00:31:41.509 --> 00:31:44.789 so do you have that? Yep, got all right here. Okay, 427 00:31:45.230 --> 00:31:48.779 it says, thus says the Lord, for three transgressions of the people of 428 00:31:48.819 --> 00:31:53.380 Amn and for for I will not turn away its punishment. Because they ripped 429 00:31:53.460 --> 00:32:00.059 open the womb with child in Gilead that they might enlarge their territory. So 430 00:32:00.220 --> 00:32:04.609 it's so much, you know, there's so much in that passage. First 431 00:32:04.609 --> 00:32:07.970 of all, God will not revoke the punishment. This is so severe. 432 00:32:08.210 --> 00:32:14.650 He will not revoke the punishment. Clearly they ripped open the pregnant women and 433 00:32:15.529 --> 00:32:21.200 killed those babies. Yeah, and why? In order to enlarge their border. 434 00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.160 So they've got the rationalization even. Yeah, that probably seemed to them 435 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:29.880 a great reason to rip open pregnant women and kill the unborn baby. And 436 00:32:30.069 --> 00:32:34.029 that's what we see. So I think this pattern is what we see at 437 00:32:34.109 --> 00:32:38.869 the abortion center so often and by the pro choice group. Abortion is okay 438 00:32:39.670 --> 00:32:45.579 when there's a valid, good reason for doing it. And God is saying, 439 00:32:46.180 --> 00:32:51.619 Ah, this is I will not revoke the punishment, no matter how 440 00:32:51.779 --> 00:32:55.259 good a reason you think for ripping open these women and killing that unborn child. 441 00:32:55.500 --> 00:33:00.450 It is a transgression. He only he says there's three, three transgressions 442 00:33:00.769 --> 00:33:05.289 and or for. So these are against a barbaric people. Yeah, or 443 00:33:05.529 --> 00:33:07.809 transgressions, he mentions and he mentions the other ones in the book of Amos, 444 00:33:08.210 --> 00:33:13.799 but one of those is abortion. Yeah, yeah, and it's sort 445 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:19.240 of like man, certainly God, through his people, Israel, made conquest 446 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:24.240 of the Promised Land and they were to be brutal in some ways. But 447 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.710 he's saying like, okay, yeah, commanded you guys to do this, 448 00:33:29.029 --> 00:33:32.829 but these folks took it even a step further and they were ripping open the 449 00:33:32.869 --> 00:33:36.470 womb. It's like this is a this is a pagan thing, this is 450 00:33:36.549 --> 00:33:40.980 the pagan mindset that is able to go even even a step beyond what, 451 00:33:42.500 --> 00:33:45.019 you know, what anyone that would be doing. And you know, he 452 00:33:45.140 --> 00:33:51.019 brings the judgment, the warning of judgment here, yeah, to the people 453 00:33:51.059 --> 00:33:53.259 of them on. Yeah. Yeah. So to counter all of that, 454 00:33:53.539 --> 00:34:00.809 then maybe just let's read a few scriptures, look and advocating God's love of 455 00:34:01.769 --> 00:34:07.329 the Preborn, to to show you, okay, not only did what the 456 00:34:08.489 --> 00:34:13.960 the peat person that what was the name of that organization? Again, freedom 457 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.280 from religion and from religion. Not only, I think have we shown that 458 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:23.429 he's taking versus out of context and completely misinterpreting what what God says. But 459 00:34:23.670 --> 00:34:29.710 but what does God say about about the unborn? And I've just got a 460 00:34:30.590 --> 00:34:31.469 have a whole bunch of them here. I won't read all of them, 461 00:34:31.590 --> 00:34:36.869 but some one on one thousand nine hundred and seventy three. Your hands have 462 00:34:37.070 --> 00:34:40.420 made me, informed me someone thirty nine, thirteen to sixteen, for you 463 00:34:40.619 --> 00:34:45.539 formed my inward parts. You United me together in my mother's womb. I 464 00:34:45.739 --> 00:34:50.300 praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works. 465 00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:52.929 My soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you 466 00:34:53.010 --> 00:34:58.050 when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the 467 00:34:58.090 --> 00:35:01.329 earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance. In your book were written, 468 00:35:01.369 --> 00:35:06.050 every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as 469 00:35:06.050 --> 00:35:10.280 yet there were none. Joe Ten, eleven to twelve. You clothed me 470 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:16.119 with skin and flesh. You Knit me together with bones and sinew. Some 471 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:20.960 one hundred three. Know that the Lord is God. It is he who 472 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.110 made us and we are his. We are his people, the sheep of 473 00:35:24.230 --> 00:35:28.710 his pasture. Isaiah, for thousand, four hundred and twenty four. Thus 474 00:35:28.750 --> 00:35:31.230 says the Lord, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb. I 475 00:35:31.469 --> 00:35:36.219 am the Lord who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, 476 00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:38.860 who spread out the earth by myself. So and there's, you know, 477 00:35:39.019 --> 00:35:45.099 hundreds more, but the but the the Lord who created the universe, who 478 00:35:45.179 --> 00:35:49.539 alone stretches out the heavens. It's the same one who formed us in the 479 00:35:49.659 --> 00:35:52.730 womb. To me that, you know, how could you call God anything 480 00:35:53.250 --> 00:35:58.809 but a loving father who has created his children and from the moment of conception, 481 00:35:59.369 --> 00:36:02.010 has loved them and yet a plan and a purpose, that I mean 482 00:36:02.329 --> 00:36:06.320 a man. Well, we hope this is a blessing to you, guys. 483 00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.400 I'm sure we'll talk some more about some of these passages and and and 484 00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:15.480 maybe we'll talk about the issue of the conquest of Canaan at some other point. 485 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.909 Like to have some other folks come in. We'd mentioned having some some 486 00:36:20.150 --> 00:36:22.710 scholarly smart of floats come yeah, take over, map up our mess. 487 00:36:22.869 --> 00:36:27.829 Yeah, and and so we'll be doing that in the future. But please 488 00:36:27.989 --> 00:36:30.550 send us some suggestions of podcast some subjects you would like for us to cover. 489 00:36:31.150 --> 00:36:35.739 We're going to continue to put out content and some more interviews and things 490 00:36:35.820 --> 00:36:39.139 like that in the coming weeks, but you can connect with us to ask 491 00:36:39.179 --> 00:36:45.539 any questions or to give comments on on our website, Charlotte dot cities for 492 00:36:45.619 --> 00:36:50.250 Life Dot Org. My email addresses there. It's D parks at cities for 493 00:36:50.329 --> 00:36:54.170 lifecom and it's vcasti Org at cities for Lifecom, if you get in touch 494 00:36:54.210 --> 00:36:59.730 with a Vicky. We also have a national website that we mentioned often that 495 00:37:00.050 --> 00:37:01.960 is designed to equip people to do sidewall counseling. That's what we do. 496 00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:06.480 We think we do it pretty well and we think that we have some information 497 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:08.760 that would bless you if you want to get involved and being a Gospel centered 498 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:15.989 presence at your local abortion clinic. And that website is sidewalks for lifecom, 499 00:37:15.190 --> 00:37:20.789 sidewalks and number four and lifecom. But we pray that you're blessed by these 500 00:37:20.829 --> 00:37:24.309 podcasts. Please share with your friends, please do some reviews and stuff like 501 00:37:24.469 --> 00:37:30.699 that on itunes and Google play and where real do you get podcast until next 502 00:37:30.739 --> 00:37:45.170 time, be blessed. Use Milan, use Milo, give me, give 503 00:37:45.329 --> 00:38:00.320 me. It will cost me my life, but not pleas too precious inside