Is God Really Prolife in the Old Testament?

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.830 Lord, I am yours, I am your. Welcome to the Gospel Center 3 00:00:10.910 --> 00:00:13.869 pro life podcast. In this episode, Vicky and I are going to talk 4 00:00:13.910 --> 00:00:17.789 about whether or not God is pro life in the Old Testament. I hope 5 00:00:17.789 --> 00:00:27.660 you're blessed as you join us. Stay tuned. I felt show passish touch 6 00:00:28.100 --> 00:00:36.009 your heart. Use But welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. We 7 00:00:36.049 --> 00:00:39.450 appreciate all those who join us today. We're going to talk about some of 8 00:00:39.490 --> 00:00:45.689 the difficult passages of scripture that seem to indicate that God is okay with abortion. 9 00:00:46.770 --> 00:00:53.799 Sometime ago we did a podcast about some pro choice arguments and a lot 10 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:56.479 of those arguments had to do with you. In the Bible doesn't even mention 11 00:00:56.479 --> 00:01:00.240 abortion, or there's a passage in the Bible that talks about how God is 12 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.120 basically inducing an abortion and number chapter five, and so we talked about that, 13 00:01:04.189 --> 00:01:07.870 but you had sent me a message along the lines of talking about this 14 00:01:08.069 --> 00:01:14.230 and talking about well, you know, doesn't God encourage abortions in then in 15 00:01:14.310 --> 00:01:18.189 the Old Testament, and you know, there's certainly a lot of passages of 16 00:01:18.230 --> 00:01:22.540 scripture that are sort of troubling as it as it pertains to the issue of 17 00:01:22.579 --> 00:01:25.500 abortion and the value of life. And that's really what we're talking about, 18 00:01:25.540 --> 00:01:29.379 not just abortion, with the value of human life. And there are some 19 00:01:29.459 --> 00:01:33.090 some troubling passages of scripture, I think, that we all sort of grapple 20 00:01:33.209 --> 00:01:34.489 with and we all sort of struggle with. You know, how can the 21 00:01:34.569 --> 00:01:38.090 good God allow this or command that? And you know, of course, 22 00:01:38.250 --> 00:01:42.010 you know, all boils down to, you know, if we were going 23 00:01:42.010 --> 00:01:45.609 to some all of this up, is that he's God, he's the Lord. 24 00:01:45.890 --> 00:01:48.400 We're not right and we don't know the in from the beginning, but 25 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:52.239 he does still. Yeah, you know, that sort of like, you 26 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:56.959 know, sort of like just dodging the question really, like how can a 27 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:01.189 good God command these things? And and how does this fit into a prolife 28 00:02:01.310 --> 00:02:07.270 framework when we're talking about as Christians, it is our charge to stand for 29 00:02:07.389 --> 00:02:13.189 life, and yet supposedly our God doesn't stand for life, at least in 30 00:02:13.229 --> 00:02:15.819 the Old Testament. You some people have a mentality. Will jump right into 31 00:02:15.860 --> 00:02:17.139 these questions here in a minute, but you know, some people have the 32 00:02:17.219 --> 00:02:21.900 mentality sort of like, you know, God got saved in the New Testament 33 00:02:23.020 --> 00:02:25.060 and the Old Testament you know, he was, he was sort of mean 34 00:02:25.180 --> 00:02:29.340 and wrathful, but in the New Testament he's he's sort of Nice. Now, 35 00:02:29.699 --> 00:02:32.210 you know, and of course we know that the Bible tells us in 36 00:02:32.289 --> 00:02:36.409 the Old Testament I am the Lord, I change, not right. God 37 00:02:36.530 --> 00:02:42.889 throughout Old and New Testament is merciful, he's kind, he is rich in 38 00:02:43.129 --> 00:02:46.439 mercy, slow to anger and rich and loving kindness. But this is this 39 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:50.759 idea, of course, with some people who just have a misunderstanding of God, 40 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.159 and of course he sort of benefits them to be able to accuse God 41 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:58.479 of being fathful and angry and mean, because they can remain in their sin 42 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:00.270 and not obey him because, after all, he's no better than they are 43 00:03:00.349 --> 00:03:02.990 in their minds. And maybe they haven't read revelation. Yeah, maybe, 44 00:03:04.229 --> 00:03:07.069 yeah, they don't know how the how this whole thing is. But you 45 00:03:07.150 --> 00:03:10.789 know, we do need to grapple with and try to answer these questions. 46 00:03:12.389 --> 00:03:15.860 So so let's sort of jump into some of the the information that you have 47 00:03:15.180 --> 00:03:19.580 and, okay, talk about some of these troubling passage. Yeah, scripture. 48 00:03:19.659 --> 00:03:23.259 Yeah. So, so I was thinking that on a walk today. 49 00:03:23.300 --> 00:03:25.780 I was I was thinking, well, is God pro life? You know, 50 00:03:25.900 --> 00:03:30.689 we do get lots of questions from from the pro socup pro choice people 51 00:03:30.770 --> 00:03:35.289 saying, well, you know, God is the greatest mass murder of history. 52 00:03:35.370 --> 00:03:38.050 You want to talk about a Holocaust, talk about God. Yeah, 53 00:03:38.169 --> 00:03:44.759 you know, coming and ordering the Israelites to to wipe out entire civilizations and 54 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:46.800 Noah's flood and all that kind of stuff, and those are you know that 55 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:50.840 it's an important question. It shouldn't be just brushed off. It is. 56 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.400 Yeah, it those sorts of questions kept me from the Lord and I think 57 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.069 they keep a lot of people from the Lord. So I do think it's 58 00:03:57.110 --> 00:04:00.710 it helps us to talk about them. And I'm hardly an expert, in 59 00:04:00.830 --> 00:04:04.590 fact, I started really looking at some of this stuff just this morning. 60 00:04:04.669 --> 00:04:11.539 Yes, but but one of the things that came across as I was thinking 61 00:04:11.580 --> 00:04:15.780 about it. So is, is God pro life or Pro Choice? Actually, 62 00:04:15.819 --> 00:04:18.459 Google that is God pro life and there's all kinds of hits. Where 63 00:04:18.660 --> 00:04:23.740 is God pro life? And one of the hits was from this this group 64 00:04:23.819 --> 00:04:29.449 called Freedom From Religion Foundation? Okay, yeah, okay, so guess. 65 00:04:29.689 --> 00:04:33.689 Yeah, Wonderful Group. Yeah, and the Reverend, I think it's Barry 66 00:04:33.810 --> 00:04:39.680 Lynn, is the guys. Okay, you know pro abortion, claim to 67 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:42.959 be a reverend, yet is against everything God is for and for everything God 68 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:46.040 is against. It's sort of right prediction. But anyway. Well, this 69 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:51.480 particular article is called God is so not pro life. Okay, Anna, 70 00:04:53.550 --> 00:04:59.829 right, exactly. So, so I started going through and and reading the 71 00:05:00.589 --> 00:05:03.430 points that he makes for why God is not pro life. So so not 72 00:05:03.589 --> 00:05:08.259 so for a life. So I'll tell you them and I'll give you the 73 00:05:08.379 --> 00:05:13.819 reference so that maybe you can we can talk about okay, so this one 74 00:05:13.939 --> 00:05:20.060 says God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including, quote, cursed shall be 75 00:05:20.180 --> 00:05:24.850 the fruit of your womb and, quote, you will eat the fruit of 76 00:05:24.930 --> 00:05:30.290 your womb, directly contradicting sanctity of life claims. Okay, and so this 77 00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:35.600 is deuteronomy twenty eight, okay. And and the there were two verses that 78 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:41.439 he picked out of that, verse eighteen and verse fifty three. Yeah, 79 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.279 so it says deronomy. This is a new King James version. I don't 80 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.709 know what version he's quoting there. Probably the new leftist Liberal version. This 81 00:05:49.910 --> 00:05:54.589 is the new King James and it says cursed shall be the fruit of your 82 00:05:54.629 --> 00:06:00.470 body. And actually the title of this section and my Bible is curses on 83 00:06:00.790 --> 00:06:05.060 disobedience. It begins with the blessings on obedience, though, so that's telling 84 00:06:05.139 --> 00:06:10.180 us how that chapter begins its curses on the curse on disobedience. Curse shall 85 00:06:10.180 --> 00:06:13.339 be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, in the 86 00:06:13.420 --> 00:06:16.180 increase of your cat, on the offspring give your flocks. Curses shall be 87 00:06:16.339 --> 00:06:19.610 when you come in and curses shall be when you go out, and the 88 00:06:19.689 --> 00:06:24.370 Lord will send a curse. Send on you, cursing, confusion, rebuke. 89 00:06:24.769 --> 00:06:28.370 And then it goes on to ultimately, where's what's the the first exactly 90 00:06:29.009 --> 00:06:31.529 case, fifty three. Yeah, and it says because there's a lot of 91 00:06:31.649 --> 00:06:35.000 cursed, will you be cursed? Dis Curse of right. Yeah, he 92 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:38.839 starts out in that chapter. Blessed will you be when you come in, 93 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.439 when you go out. Blessed be your cure crops and your flocks and all 94 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.680 of this this. When you follow God, there's obvious obedience and then here's 95 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:47.350 the disobean ex thanks. It's the curses. So we'll skip on down the 96 00:06:47.389 --> 00:06:51.629 verse. Fifty three. And you shall eat. This is pretty pretty hefty 97 00:06:51.709 --> 00:06:56.589 here. And Yeah, and pretty pretty gross actually. You shall eat the 98 00:06:56.629 --> 00:07:00.069 fruit of your own body, the flesh of your son's and your daughter's, 99 00:07:00.189 --> 00:07:03.660 whom the Lord, your God, has given you in the siege and desperate 100 00:07:03.819 --> 00:07:09.420 Straits in which your enemy shall distress you. Yeah, yeah, so there's 101 00:07:09.500 --> 00:07:12.420 like God is like saying, ha ha, you know, I'm not pro 102 00:07:13.139 --> 00:07:16.170 life at all. I'm pro abortion even, and I ump even want you 103 00:07:16.209 --> 00:07:18.649 to eat your kids. Yeah, it's kind of what's and play it, 104 00:07:18.810 --> 00:07:23.050 but right, and and that's what this guy that's the conclusion he comes to. 105 00:07:23.209 --> 00:07:28.769 But really it's it's it's talking about the prophecy of what is going to 106 00:07:28.850 --> 00:07:33.279 happen if you disobey God compared to when you obey God. And and the 107 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:38.759 point is that he talks about the fruit of your room eating the fruit of 108 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:45.470 your womb, because it's so horrific, it's shocking, a natural, cruel 109 00:07:46.189 --> 00:07:49.990 and inhuman. And it it in fact demonstrates the opposite point of what your 110 00:07:50.029 --> 00:07:56.509 sky makes. It demonstrates that that that is the absolute worst thing you don't 111 00:07:56.589 --> 00:08:01.620 do. And that's the result, then, of sin. We're SOLIN and 112 00:08:01.660 --> 00:08:05.019 disobedience. Yeah, me. So one of the the major points here. 113 00:08:05.180 --> 00:08:09.699 It's, you know, God is to Israel a father. Right, God 114 00:08:09.860 --> 00:08:13.329 is a father to us as Christians, but to Israel he's a father and 115 00:08:13.370 --> 00:08:18.810 it's like a father warning. Here's two things going on, here's here's blessing 116 00:08:18.889 --> 00:08:22.129 and here's cursing, and here's two choices that are before you. And if 117 00:08:22.129 --> 00:08:26.519 you walk in the blessing, which is walking in obedience, acknowledge my commands, 118 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:31.240 do as I direct you to do, then here's the blessings that are 119 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.480 going to come. You're basically everything that you do will be blessed. That's 120 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.440 IT, Huh. On the other hand, if you walk in disobedience, 121 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:41.830 here's going to be the result, and it's not just that God's going to 122 00:08:41.909 --> 00:08:46.830 directly influence you to eat your children. What he's warning is is you're going 123 00:08:46.830 --> 00:08:50.350 to be seized by these other nations. It's like the protective hand of God 124 00:08:52.029 --> 00:08:54.710 that's over the children of Israel, in covenant with them, is going to 125 00:08:54.779 --> 00:09:00.700 protect them from the from the Pagans they are surrounding them, but that protective 126 00:09:00.740 --> 00:09:05.340 hand will be lifted by their disobedience and these pagan nations are going to seege, 127 00:09:05.419 --> 00:09:11.009 and he's referring, I mean ultimately this does happen. This happens and 128 00:09:11.090 --> 00:09:15.210 we're going to go to that passage and Isaiah, where God this this thing 129 00:09:15.250 --> 00:09:18.889 is come to pass, or at least you know the prophet talks about this. 130 00:09:18.009 --> 00:09:22.929 This is God warning. You know, some kind of like me with 131 00:09:22.049 --> 00:09:24.679 my kids, you know. You know I got you this new bike and 132 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.279 want you to enjoy riding this bike, and it's great. If you ride 133 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.120 it here on the little side road, that's fine, but if you ride 134 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:35.000 it on the interstate, you're not only going to ruin your bike, but 135 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.480 you're going to get hit by a car, you're going to get rolled under 136 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.470 a transfer trick and get hipped open. We're going to get what you're you're 137 00:09:41.470 --> 00:09:43.590 not going to rip him open right. It's a kind of the reason going 138 00:09:43.629 --> 00:09:46.389 to be the result of disobedience, and that's sort of sort of what the 139 00:09:46.509 --> 00:09:50.750 Lord's doing here. He's he's taking it to the extreme and saying, okay, 140 00:09:50.750 --> 00:09:54.259 it's not just going to be that you skin your knee and fall off 141 00:09:54.340 --> 00:09:56.659 your bike, but you're gonna be total ruin. You know, in that 142 00:09:56.740 --> 00:10:01.620 picture of a father toward his towards his child. Yeah, and child sacrifice 143 00:10:01.980 --> 00:10:05.659 was one of the that was what the Pagan nations were doing. Yeah, 144 00:10:05.659 --> 00:10:09.370 and that was one of the things that God really railed against when he had 145 00:10:09.769 --> 00:10:13.129 pulled his chosen people out and said you will be different, you will be 146 00:10:13.169 --> 00:10:20.250 separate, you from this, you will not do this horrific, unnatural activity 147 00:10:20.409 --> 00:10:22.679 that the Pagan nations were doing. Okay, so now this is probably the 148 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.519 the verson is Aa that you were talking about. It is a AE thousand, 149 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:33.320 threeteen and eighteen. So he is Ayah is propheesized, prophesying the doom 150 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:39.309 for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children. Yeah, and so so 151 00:10:39.590 --> 00:10:50.340 this this site claims that this is showing that that God has is certainly not 152 00:10:50.899 --> 00:10:54.019 a pro life, not not asserting the sanctity of life, but in fact 153 00:10:54.139 --> 00:10:58.139 is declaring that not one of his people will live, not a man, 154 00:10:58.259 --> 00:11:01.740 woman or child, not even babies in the arms, as a result of 155 00:11:01.899 --> 00:11:07.690 worshiping idols. So what's that passage actually say? It's as a three eighteen, 156 00:11:07.850 --> 00:11:11.250 three hundred and eighteen says. Also, their bows will dash the young 157 00:11:11.330 --> 00:11:15.730 men to pieces and they will have no pity on the fruit of the womb 158 00:11:16.529 --> 00:11:20.559 there are. Will Not spare children. Okay, yeah, yeah, so 159 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.919 when when I read further about what was happening during that time? This was 160 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.440 the prophecy again. It was a prophecy. It's prophesying, not it's not 161 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:35.990 saying God wants this to happen, it's saying this is what happens as a 162 00:11:37.149 --> 00:11:43.269 result of Cyrus, of the notorious, notoriously cruel needs would do this. 163 00:11:43.669 --> 00:11:48.500 Okay, not, God, right, God's not. God doesn't want us 164 00:11:48.500 --> 00:11:50.940 to do this. He makes it clear he doesn't want us to do this. 165 00:11:50.419 --> 00:12:00.580 But this barbaric invading group was going to perpetrate this on these unborn children. 166 00:12:00.620 --> 00:12:05.169 And again it's seen as horrific. Yeah, yeah, I mean the 167 00:12:05.570 --> 00:12:09.690 point here again is the warning of the Lord. You know, God is 168 00:12:09.809 --> 00:12:16.480 warning the children of Israel of the destruction that comes through their rebellion against him. 169 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.279 The Commands of God in the Old Testament to the children of Israel. 170 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.559 There's there some weird commands there. Most of them are sort of practical, 171 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:31.950 right. I mean we talked about the last podcast we did about some of 172 00:12:31.990 --> 00:12:35.830 the biblical like the pro abortion people's biblical objections to the pro life stands, 173 00:12:35.950 --> 00:12:43.190 you know, answering pro choice arguments. And you know that passage in exitus 174 00:12:43.190 --> 00:12:46.220 chapter twenty one where if two men were fighting together and they heard a pregnant 175 00:12:46.220 --> 00:12:50.620 woman and she gives birth. You know, we will go through all that, 176 00:12:50.700 --> 00:12:54.659 but that's sort of practical, right. But there's some other stuff in 177 00:12:54.779 --> 00:12:58.570 the Old Testament. We were like, okay, you can't have to can't 178 00:12:58.610 --> 00:13:01.970 have a garment made with two types of threads. Like, what are these 179 00:13:01.210 --> 00:13:05.289 things? You can't. Here's here's a here's a fun one. You're not 180 00:13:05.370 --> 00:13:09.009 supposed to cook a kid goat and its mother's milk, right, which you 181 00:13:09.090 --> 00:13:13.679 know that's a strong temptation for me because I like cooking kid coats in their 182 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.840 mother's milk. Right, you're like looking at that and that's ridiculous, right, 183 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.600 like what does that even mean? But these things had some sort of 184 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.120 significance to do with the pagan nations that were around. You know, one 185 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.110 of those commands is you should not sacrifice your children, burn them in the 186 00:13:28.230 --> 00:13:31.870 fire to Molich. Right. These are one of those commands that God gave 187 00:13:31.990 --> 00:13:37.269 the Children Israel, and they were commands to preserve, to preserve the children 188 00:13:37.309 --> 00:13:41.220 of Israel so that they don't go the way of the Pagan nations, because 189 00:13:41.299 --> 00:13:46.460 the pagan nations were so cruel in the way that they treated right. You 190 00:13:46.539 --> 00:13:50.899 know, anybody unborn children, born children, women, all of this, 191 00:13:52.179 --> 00:13:56.090 and God's have a better way for you. And so these were protective and 192 00:13:56.409 --> 00:14:01.490 again, these were warning the children of Israel that here's what can be the 193 00:14:01.570 --> 00:14:05.690 result. These pagan nations got us saying are merciless, right, so much 194 00:14:05.769 --> 00:14:09.970 so that they'll even rip open the womb of a pregnant woman. Will talk 195 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.120 about that passage in just a second. Yeah, that they'll rip open the 196 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.120 womb of a pregnant woman and and dash the baby to the ground. Right, 197 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:22.639 and it's like God saying that's really, really wicked. That's how bad 198 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.509 these pagan nations. Exactly exactly merciless. They are, exactly so. And 199 00:14:26.669 --> 00:14:30.470 in fact, I think that is the next one. Yeah, and that's 200 00:14:30.470 --> 00:14:33.590 an amost amus. Sweet, not there yet. Let's go to that one. 201 00:14:33.590 --> 00:14:35.070 Yeah, let's go to Jose A. Nine, okay, ten, 202 00:14:35.230 --> 00:14:41.580 just sixteen, and I'm so this is saying, Oh, this is that 203 00:14:41.700 --> 00:14:46.500 one for rebelling against God. Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will 204 00:14:46.500 --> 00:14:50.860 be to death against the ground and the pregnant women will be ripped up him 205 00:14:50.899 --> 00:14:54.210 with with M go word. So again, the the author, who is, 206 00:14:56.610 --> 00:15:00.450 you know, the freedom from religion author, says that this is proof 207 00:15:01.169 --> 00:15:07.200 that, because God treats rebellion against God by by dashing babies to death and 208 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:11.240 ripping open pregnant women. So yeah, he is clearly not a pro life 209 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:15.240 God. So so let's see. So what does it actually say? This 210 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:20.720 Josiah nine and he cites ten to sixteen. Okay, I found Israel like 211 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:24.269 grapes in the Wilderness. I saw your father's as a furdge, fruits of 212 00:15:24.629 --> 00:15:28.110 on the fig tree and its first season. But they went to bail pure 213 00:15:28.789 --> 00:15:33.909 and separated themselves to that shame. They become an abomination like the thing that 214 00:15:33.070 --> 00:15:39.340 they loved. So they worshiped this false god, this bail as Ephraim, 215 00:15:39.500 --> 00:15:43.220 for their glory shall fly like, fly away, like a bird. No 216 00:15:43.419 --> 00:15:46.259 birth, no pregnancy, no conception. Here's a point, though, to 217 00:15:46.340 --> 00:15:50.730 sort of not rabbit trail, but go on with this, this theme here, 218 00:15:52.009 --> 00:15:58.049 that children are viewed in Israel as a blessing. Right, and so 219 00:15:58.169 --> 00:16:02.330 the idea that, you know, when God made his covenor initially with the 220 00:16:02.370 --> 00:16:04.559 children of Israel, he says, I will bless your bread in your water. 221 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:08.639 This is an exitus twenty five, I believe, where he says I'll 222 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.519 bless your bread and your water, and this is again a covenant of Obedience. 223 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.519 If you remain an obedient to me, I will bless your bread and 224 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:19.190 your water, no one will miscarry in your land. So I'm going to 225 00:16:19.269 --> 00:16:22.269 bless your food and nobody's going to miscarry, and no in the new animals 226 00:16:22.269 --> 00:16:26.309 are going to miss car because miscarriage is always seen as a result of the 227 00:16:26.389 --> 00:16:29.669 fall, a part of the curse, of part of disobedience. It's not 228 00:16:29.990 --> 00:16:33.460 God, because the picture from a guy like this, this this pro abortion, 229 00:16:33.539 --> 00:16:36.860 guys like God's writhe in his hands, waiting to be able to kill 230 00:16:36.940 --> 00:16:40.100 some children in the womb. Whatever. It's like ridiculous. So this is 231 00:16:40.139 --> 00:16:42.779 actually the opposite. He's saying this is part of the curse and that he's 232 00:16:42.820 --> 00:16:45.860 talking about that here. No birth, no pregnancy, no conception. That 233 00:16:45.980 --> 00:16:52.129 would be a tremendous curse on the children of Israel, and so though they 234 00:16:52.210 --> 00:16:55.889 bring up their children, they will brave them to the last man. Yes, 235 00:16:56.009 --> 00:16:57.929 woe to them when I depart from them. So here's that, that 236 00:16:59.129 --> 00:17:02.200 language of the Lord saying I'm going to depart from them in the sense that 237 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:06.200 his hand of protection is going to go, and that's what happens with our 238 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:11.119 sin. Our sin separates us from from God. I'll going down to the 239 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:15.509 to the last first okay, Verse Sixteen. E FREHIM is stricken the rudest, 240 00:17:15.509 --> 00:17:19.789 dried up. They shall bear no fruit. Yes, yes, were 241 00:17:19.829 --> 00:17:23.150 they to bear children, I would kill the darlings of their womb. And 242 00:17:23.269 --> 00:17:29.869 so that's sort of you know this, this this passage that is implied from 243 00:17:29.869 --> 00:17:33.980 this guy, to imagine that God is sort of like writhe in his hands 244 00:17:33.059 --> 00:17:37.299 at excited about killing babies in the womb. But again, it's a warning. 245 00:17:37.420 --> 00:17:42.859 It's a warning of what these pagan nations are capable of and what they 246 00:17:42.900 --> 00:17:48.809 actually will do with with the children of Israel, if God's hand of protection 247 00:17:48.970 --> 00:17:52.089 is not on them. Yeah, and again, the commentary that that I 248 00:17:52.369 --> 00:18:00.160 read said that Joseah, the prophet, is again for telling what what will 249 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:03.880 happen. Is this the hose that? Yeah, what will happen as a 250 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:08.200 result of their rebellion against God? And it describes the cruelties upon these hapless 251 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:15.589 people by the Assyrians in sacking the city. So it's speaking of the barbarity 252 00:18:15.029 --> 00:18:21.670 that would be perpetrated by the ammonites on the women of Gilead. Nowhere does 253 00:18:21.710 --> 00:18:26.309 it say that Israel will do such barbaric cruelty to God's children. Won't be 254 00:18:26.349 --> 00:18:32.019 doing this, but it is these invading people that will be who are idolaters 255 00:18:32.099 --> 00:18:34.660 and hate God and don't follow God, and this is the result of that, 256 00:18:34.740 --> 00:18:40.339 that turning from God and the disobedience against God, which is the common 257 00:18:40.420 --> 00:18:44.170 theme, yeah, that we're seeing throughout that. In fact, I read 258 00:18:44.170 --> 00:18:51.529 another article this morning which was really interesting, saying is God prolife or pro 259 00:18:51.650 --> 00:18:55.839 choice? I think was the title of it, and and the the author 260 00:18:55.920 --> 00:19:00.559 concluded he was both. M He's Prolife, he his desires for us, 261 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:04.400 the way we were designed, is to protect and and promote sanctity of life, 262 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:11.309 but he also is pro choice in the sense, not at all in 263 00:19:11.390 --> 00:19:15.390 the sense that pro choice is used today, yeah, but in the sense 264 00:19:15.470 --> 00:19:18.109 that we are given a choice. Yeah, we are given a choice by 265 00:19:18.269 --> 00:19:22.430 God to either follow him and obey, where there will be cursings, or 266 00:19:23.190 --> 00:19:29.779 rebel against him and disobey and and they're there are consequences there. H hearses. 267 00:19:30.140 --> 00:19:33.900 Yeah, I mean the Deuteronomy passage that we quote a lot. I 268 00:19:33.019 --> 00:19:37.299 sat before you this day, life and death, blessing and cursing, okay. 269 00:19:37.380 --> 00:19:41.210 So here's like the quiz. Right. This is what I explain to 270 00:19:41.289 --> 00:19:44.490 some when I have conversations with abortion minded women or man. It says like 271 00:19:44.529 --> 00:19:48.529 God's given you a quiz and there's two two questions on that quiz, or 272 00:19:48.569 --> 00:19:55.279 two answers, life, blessing, death and cursing. So you check which 273 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:59.000 everyone and he's giving you the answer. Therefore, choose life. Right. 274 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:02.359 So he's giving you the quiz and he's giving you the answer. So God 275 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.079 shows us the way that he wants to to go in. But there is 276 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:11.430 before human beings, there is the ability to choose. God has given people 277 00:20:11.509 --> 00:20:14.829 the ability to choose. You know, I hear people, you know, 278 00:20:14.869 --> 00:20:18.910 when we encounter people at the abortion clinic and and and even pro choice people 279 00:20:18.910 --> 00:20:22.259 will say something like, you know, God gives us the freedom to choose. 280 00:20:22.859 --> 00:20:26.779 God gives us the right to choose. Yes, he certainly does. 281 00:20:26.819 --> 00:20:30.700 I mean that's the US kind of the point. But just because God gives 282 00:20:30.740 --> 00:20:34.579 you the ability to choose does not mean he's okay with the choice that you 283 00:20:34.700 --> 00:20:37.089 make, because he's very clear about it. Right. It's a matter of 284 00:20:37.089 --> 00:20:42.809 fact. It's the choices that we make and the the results of those choices 285 00:20:42.849 --> 00:20:47.369 that ultimately we're going to give an account before God for. So it's what 286 00:20:47.569 --> 00:20:52.599 you choose when you are faced with the decision life and death, blessing and 287 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.599 cursing, that you'll be held accountable for. God, for your free will, 288 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.039 is that which you'll be held accountable for. That's right. And even 289 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:06.269 though you know, God is the law giver and we kind of Mimic that 290 00:21:06.549 --> 00:21:11.470 in in making laws in our nations, and and so you know, they, 291 00:21:11.710 --> 00:21:15.230 I think the proborts will say, well, it's legal, so so 292 00:21:15.109 --> 00:21:21.539 it's okay. But while God does give us the ability to make unjust laws, 293 00:21:21.660 --> 00:21:26.019 he's his his laws for his people were just laws and that is clearly 294 00:21:26.220 --> 00:21:30.859 the path that he wants us to follow. But we choose again to disregard 295 00:21:30.940 --> 00:21:36.410 that. Yeah, so, okay. Let's see. Here's one from the 296 00:21:36.450 --> 00:21:42.369 New Testament. This is in Matthew Nineteen. Okay, this is still from 297 00:21:42.450 --> 00:21:47.640 the the pro abortion. Freedom from religion. Yeah, from religion. Okay. 298 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:52.519 He said Jesus in this passage did not express any special concern for unboard 299 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:59.640 and children during the anticipated end times. He says woe to pregnant women and 300 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:06.190 those who are nursing. So this author is saying, Jesus is basically cursing, 301 00:22:06.589 --> 00:22:10.549 okay, the pregnant women and those who are nursing. He's saying, 302 00:22:10.710 --> 00:22:14.789 woe to them. It almost as a curse. Now that certainly it's not 303 00:22:14.869 --> 00:22:17.539 how I read that pass yeah, no, not at all. That's like 304 00:22:17.779 --> 00:22:19.539 this is this is again. It's the warning. Come Jesus, this is 305 00:22:22.059 --> 00:22:30.049 this curse, this time of destruction is coming. He's not saying like it's 306 00:22:30.170 --> 00:22:33.809 bad to be pregnant or to be nursing, but we say it's going to 307 00:22:33.849 --> 00:22:40.329 be really bad for everybody, but especially for these women who are pregnant, 308 00:22:40.369 --> 00:22:44.440 who are nursing. Right. So again it's a it's a warning, it's 309 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:48.279 a call from Jesus to the people of his day of here's what the destruction 310 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:53.279 is going to entail, and be prepared for it and repent. I mean 311 00:22:53.319 --> 00:23:00.269 there's a passage and several passages in Isaiah, where Isaiah is pronouncing judgments. 312 00:23:00.990 --> 00:23:03.710 He's saying this is how it's going to be unless perhaps you might repent and 313 00:23:03.869 --> 00:23:08.549 God would give you mercy. So it's like the Prophet always holds out hope 314 00:23:08.869 --> 00:23:11.430 that and in we see it as a pattern, right, we see it 315 00:23:11.549 --> 00:23:15.380 with with Jonah. Yeah, I think it was you that were. You 316 00:23:15.460 --> 00:23:19.059 were talking about you reading through Jonah not too long ago and how God had 317 00:23:19.180 --> 00:23:23.539 basically told Jonah, Jonah, you're going to go to nine A. I've 318 00:23:23.539 --> 00:23:26.450 already decided I'm going to judge these people, so you're just going to go 319 00:23:26.690 --> 00:23:30.450 deliver the mail and then the judgment's coming. Right, they're going to be 320 00:23:30.049 --> 00:23:34.690 completely decimated. Jonah goes thinking he's just delivering the Mail and God's not going 321 00:23:34.730 --> 00:23:38.250 to be merciful. They all repent, set cloth and ashes and fast for 322 00:23:38.329 --> 00:23:41.680 like forty days. Everybody right. When it forty days, I do again. 323 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:45.880 They definitely they turned the right they turned to God. What God do? 324 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.440 He relented. He actually actually turned back, even though he had said 325 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:52.599 I'm going to do this. God has this ability to change his mind if 326 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:57.150 he wants to. Now we can get into a subject about the sovereignty of 327 00:23:57.230 --> 00:24:02.029 God and the immutability of God and all this other stuff. Right, I 328 00:24:02.069 --> 00:24:06.710 don't think that's a subject for this particular podcast, but it is, you 329 00:24:06.789 --> 00:24:11.180 know, amazing to see that God intended these judgments. But really we see 330 00:24:11.259 --> 00:24:15.819 what his heart really is every time. His heart is one of mercy and 331 00:24:17.099 --> 00:24:23.059 one of a disposition of good will toward those who would just agree with him 332 00:24:23.099 --> 00:24:26.650 and just turned to him right, right. And you know what we were 333 00:24:26.690 --> 00:24:33.089 talking about a little bit earlier, which is a really important passage for me, 334 00:24:33.329 --> 00:24:36.769 was which exactly, I think illustrates this point, is the passage of 335 00:24:36.890 --> 00:24:42.079 when Abraham is is told to to sacrifice EZE and that that that he's posted 336 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:47.519 to bring Isaac up to the mountain and and sacrifice his only son, the 337 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:51.799 son of the of the promise that God had given to that would, you 338 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.829 know, be the father of men nations. And and so Abraham does, 339 00:24:57.109 --> 00:25:02.910 he he he brings Isaac up to the mountain and he binds him and puts 340 00:25:02.950 --> 00:25:07.859 him on the altar. And and for four years that kept me from the 341 00:25:07.980 --> 00:25:14.339 Lord because I'm thinking, how cruel is this God? I could I could 342 00:25:14.500 --> 00:25:18.619 never follow a God that would tell us turn off your maternal instincts or your 343 00:25:18.660 --> 00:25:26.450 paternal instincts and and sacrifice your only child for me and I completely didn't understand 344 00:25:26.730 --> 00:25:32.170 that passage and and didn't want to follow a God that would ask that. 345 00:25:32.849 --> 00:25:40.240 But really I think God was making again a really important point that unless God 346 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:49.000 is primary of such importance that all else is is secondary and pales in comparison 347 00:25:49.630 --> 00:25:55.150 to the love of God and following God and obeying God, because he is 348 00:25:55.190 --> 00:25:57.349 our creator, he is the one that holds eternity in his hands, and 349 00:25:59.109 --> 00:26:04.940 until we come to that realization we will never truly submit our life to him 350 00:26:04.940 --> 00:26:11.900 and never truly overcome sin, because we think that that our agenda is more 351 00:26:11.940 --> 00:26:18.140 important. And Abraham came to that understanding. He trusted God, and whether 352 00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:22.769 he trusted that God was going to provide the sacrifice, switch ultimately God did, 353 00:26:22.289 --> 00:26:26.089 or whether he thought God would bring Isaac back to life, or whether 354 00:26:26.130 --> 00:26:30.089 he thought, I'm going to do it because God has told me to do 355 00:26:30.250 --> 00:26:34.759 it and God is more important even than my son. Yeah, and he 356 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:40.880 was willing to do it and he raises the knife to to sacrifice Isaac and 357 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.240 God stays his hand and to me that is that is exactly what happened in 358 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:51.470 Jonah. It's exactly what happens to Noah and his family. It's what happens 359 00:26:51.630 --> 00:26:56.990 to lot in in the story of Sodom and go Morah. It's what happens 360 00:26:56.069 --> 00:27:02.859 to every single one of us when we are on the cusp of hell, 361 00:27:03.140 --> 00:27:08.299 of destruction, of eternal separation from God, and God waits for us to 362 00:27:08.339 --> 00:27:14.779 say, I'm sorry, yeah, and I will submit to whatever it is 363 00:27:15.259 --> 00:27:19.809 that that your plan is for my life, and at that moment he frees 364 00:27:19.849 --> 00:27:22.529 us and we saved. Yeah, Sin It, you know. It's so 365 00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:26.690 Abraham is called and actually there's a passage in the New Testament, believe it's 366 00:27:26.690 --> 00:27:29.930 in Romans, where it talks about, you know, God, God, 367 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.559 or maybe it's he breathed chapter live in the hall of faith, where it 368 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.119 says, basically, Abraham knew that God was able to raise up Isaac back 369 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:40.960 from the dead, like God had promised that the promise is going to come, 370 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.190 the blessing, because we're going to come through Isaac to Abraham. And 371 00:27:45.829 --> 00:27:48.230 even though God told him to sacrifice Isaac, he knew, since God say 372 00:27:48.309 --> 00:27:52.549 said this is going to happen, the blessing is going to come through Isaac, 373 00:27:52.670 --> 00:27:53.910 then if I kill him, then God's just going to have to raise 374 00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:57.190 him from the dead. He had that much confidence in God and that's why 375 00:27:57.269 --> 00:28:02.059 he is the father of faith. And what's sort of funny to me. 376 00:28:02.339 --> 00:28:06.900 Okay, it's amazing, but it's also sort of funny, and you gotta 377 00:28:07.019 --> 00:28:11.740 just ever use your imagination to like how would this actually play out in real 378 00:28:11.859 --> 00:28:15.730 life? How did this play out? The the the night that Abraham told 379 00:28:15.769 --> 00:28:17.609 Sarah, Hey, you know, listen, God, tell me to get 380 00:28:17.609 --> 00:28:19.809 a sacrifice. I'M gonna go as are only son. So he jed I. 381 00:28:21.410 --> 00:28:25.569 So here's the funny thing, though. It says that Abraham got up 382 00:28:25.690 --> 00:28:29.559 early and did it. I'm like, man, okay, can out. 383 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.599 So that his well, it's like he's gonna get to it right away. 384 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:33.799 Take Care, it's just going to get so it's like for me, I'm 385 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.240 thinking in my life, man, I'm going to drag my feet. I'm 386 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:38.880 I'm going to wait till if he told me to do it tomorrow, that 387 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.230 I'll do it at one hundred and fifty nine. So, you know, 388 00:28:41.869 --> 00:28:45.349 fifty nine pm, I'll take care of it, but you know, I'm 389 00:28:45.349 --> 00:28:48.990 gonna Drag my vie. Abraham like got up early, went, you know, 390 00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:53.390 and him and Isaac went on that epic camping trip, and camping trips 391 00:28:53.430 --> 00:29:00.460 were never the same around Abraham's house, House, to make a little funny 392 00:29:00.500 --> 00:29:04.299 of that, but that's that's amazing, amazing story. Yeah, to think 393 00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:11.690 sort of to your point, God is the supreme being right he is the 394 00:29:11.809 --> 00:29:15.609 creator, he is the Potter and we are the clay and he is do 395 00:29:15.890 --> 00:29:19.049 our devotion. Ultimately, kind of like we started, you know, no 396 00:29:19.130 --> 00:29:26.599 matter what conclusion we come to about these passages, we are not God's accuser. 397 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.279 He is the Lord. He can command whatever he wants. And when 398 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:37.000 God commands something, for example, and maybe will in the future do and 399 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.630 I think we should do a podcast specifically about God's command to Israel and going 400 00:29:41.670 --> 00:29:45.990 into the promised land and how he commanded them to wipe out everyone. And 401 00:29:45.150 --> 00:29:48.829 that's a that's a pretty heavy one that we that we grapple with. But 402 00:29:48.990 --> 00:29:53.740 ultimately God, when he makes a command like that, God can't be a 403 00:29:53.779 --> 00:29:57.779 murderer. It's not in his nature, right. He is perfect, he 404 00:29:59.059 --> 00:30:06.339 is holy and he is God and and Israel was to obey him. But 405 00:30:06.420 --> 00:30:10.170 ultimately that's what it boils down to. God is God and we're not. 406 00:30:11.089 --> 00:30:15.529 We are not God, and we have in his word, not that God 407 00:30:15.650 --> 00:30:18.690 got saved in the New Testament, like I started with. What we have 408 00:30:18.809 --> 00:30:22.920 in his word this charge to love even our enemies, to love our neighbor 409 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:30.160 as ourselves. That passage love your neighbor as yourself is actually an echo from 410 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.880 the old testament when God tell the Jender of Israel to love your neighbor as 411 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:40.390 yourself. So to imagine that the the norm for God, for the God 412 00:30:40.470 --> 00:30:44.109 of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, is to just be a baby murderer for 413 00:30:44.230 --> 00:30:47.710 abortion all it is, is an absurdity. Yeah, it's a matter of 414 00:30:47.750 --> 00:30:52.099 fact. He often is contrasting his nature, in the nature of his children, 415 00:30:52.339 --> 00:30:57.420 with the nature of these pagan nations and these pagan false gods who desired 416 00:30:59.140 --> 00:31:03.420 blood and and and human sacrifice and all these other things. And you know, 417 00:31:03.500 --> 00:31:07.170 like the false god bail that. You know they sacrifice their children to 418 00:31:07.450 --> 00:31:10.609 to Molich and yet into the bales and Astra. And let me make sure. 419 00:31:10.650 --> 00:31:14.329 I don't want you to close us before could do this last yeah, 420 00:31:14.529 --> 00:31:17.569 passage, because any of the really a great one. Amos, one and 421 00:31:17.609 --> 00:31:22.960 thirteen. Yeah, because when I read that, and I read that last 422 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.079 week before. I maybe that was what started me thinking that this might be 423 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.200 an interest of podcast, but I read it last week and was thinking, 424 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:36.950 Wow, I think this is God saying as clearly as he could say abortion 425 00:31:37.549 --> 00:31:41.349 is wrong. Yeah, and he would not have us do it. So 426 00:31:41.509 --> 00:31:44.789 so do you have that? Yep, got all right here. Okay, 427 00:31:45.230 --> 00:31:48.779 it says, thus says the Lord, for three transgressions of the people of 428 00:31:48.819 --> 00:31:53.380 Amn and for for I will not turn away its punishment. Because they ripped 429 00:31:53.460 --> 00:32:00.059 open the womb with child in Gilead that they might enlarge their territory. So 430 00:32:00.220 --> 00:32:04.609 it's so much, you know, there's so much in that passage. First 431 00:32:04.609 --> 00:32:07.970 of all, God will not revoke the punishment. This is so severe. 432 00:32:08.210 --> 00:32:14.650 He will not revoke the punishment. Clearly they ripped open the pregnant women and 433 00:32:15.529 --> 00:32:21.200 killed those babies. Yeah, and why? In order to enlarge their border. 434 00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.160 So they've got the rationalization even. Yeah, that probably seemed to them 435 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:29.880 a great reason to rip open pregnant women and kill the unborn baby. And 436 00:32:30.069 --> 00:32:34.029 that's what we see. So I think this pattern is what we see at 437 00:32:34.109 --> 00:32:38.869 the abortion center so often and by the pro choice group. Abortion is okay 438 00:32:39.670 --> 00:32:45.579 when there's a valid, good reason for doing it. And God is saying, 439 00:32:46.180 --> 00:32:51.619 Ah, this is I will not revoke the punishment, no matter how 440 00:32:51.779 --> 00:32:55.259 good a reason you think for ripping open these women and killing that unborn child. 441 00:32:55.500 --> 00:33:00.450 It is a transgression. He only he says there's three, three transgressions 442 00:33:00.769 --> 00:33:05.289 and or for. So these are against a barbaric people. Yeah, or 443 00:33:05.529 --> 00:33:07.809 transgressions, he mentions and he mentions the other ones in the book of Amos, 444 00:33:08.210 --> 00:33:13.799 but one of those is abortion. Yeah, yeah, and it's sort 445 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:19.240 of like man, certainly God, through his people, Israel, made conquest 446 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:24.240 of the Promised Land and they were to be brutal in some ways. But 447 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.710 he's saying like, okay, yeah, commanded you guys to do this, 448 00:33:29.029 --> 00:33:32.829 but these folks took it even a step further and they were ripping open the 449 00:33:32.869 --> 00:33:36.470 womb. It's like this is a this is a pagan thing, this is 450 00:33:36.549 --> 00:33:40.980 the pagan mindset that is able to go even even a step beyond what, 451 00:33:42.500 --> 00:33:45.019 you know, what anyone that would be doing. And you know, he 452 00:33:45.140 --> 00:33:51.019 brings the judgment, the warning of judgment here, yeah, to the people 453 00:33:51.059 --> 00:33:53.259 of them on. Yeah. Yeah. So to counter all of that, 454 00:33:53.539 --> 00:34:00.809 then maybe just let's read a few scriptures, look and advocating God's love of 455 00:34:01.769 --> 00:34:07.329 the Preborn, to to show you, okay, not only did what the 456 00:34:08.489 --> 00:34:13.960 the peat person that what was the name of that organization? Again, freedom 457 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.280 from religion and from religion. Not only, I think have we shown that 458 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:23.429 he's taking versus out of context and completely misinterpreting what what God says. But 459 00:34:23.670 --> 00:34:29.710 but what does God say about about the unborn? And I've just got a 460 00:34:30.590 --> 00:34:31.469 have a whole bunch of them here. I won't read all of them, 461 00:34:31.590 --> 00:34:36.869 but some one on one thousand nine hundred and seventy three. Your hands have 462 00:34:37.070 --> 00:34:40.420 made me, informed me someone thirty nine, thirteen to sixteen, for you 463 00:34:40.619 --> 00:34:45.539 formed my inward parts. You United me together in my mother's womb. I 464 00:34:45.739 --> 00:34:50.300 praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works. 465 00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:52.929 My soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you 466 00:34:53.010 --> 00:34:58.050 when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the 467 00:34:58.090 --> 00:35:01.329 earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance. In your book were written, 468 00:35:01.369 --> 00:35:06.050 every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as 469 00:35:06.050 --> 00:35:10.280 yet there were none. Joe Ten, eleven to twelve. You clothed me 470 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:16.119 with skin and flesh. You Knit me together with bones and sinew. Some 471 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:20.960 one hundred three. Know that the Lord is God. It is he who 472 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.110 made us and we are his. We are his people, the sheep of 473 00:35:24.230 --> 00:35:28.710 his pasture. Isaiah, for thousand, four hundred and twenty four. Thus 474 00:35:28.750 --> 00:35:31.230 says the Lord, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb. I 475 00:35:31.469 --> 00:35:36.219 am the Lord who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, 476 00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:38.860 who spread out the earth by myself. So and there's, you know, 477 00:35:39.019 --> 00:35:45.099 hundreds more, but the but the the Lord who created the universe, who 478 00:35:45.179 --> 00:35:49.539 alone stretches out the heavens. It's the same one who formed us in the 479 00:35:49.659 --> 00:35:52.730 womb. To me that, you know, how could you call God anything 480 00:35:53.250 --> 00:35:58.809 but a loving father who has created his children and from the moment of conception, 481 00:35:59.369 --> 00:36:02.010 has loved them and yet a plan and a purpose, that I mean 482 00:36:02.329 --> 00:36:06.320 a man. Well, we hope this is a blessing to you, guys. 483 00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.400 I'm sure we'll talk some more about some of these passages and and and 484 00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:15.480 maybe we'll talk about the issue of the conquest of Canaan at some other point. 485 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.909 Like to have some other folks come in. We'd mentioned having some some 486 00:36:20.150 --> 00:36:22.710 scholarly smart of floats come yeah, take over, map up our mess. 487 00:36:22.869 --> 00:36:27.829 Yeah, and and so we'll be doing that in the future. But please 488 00:36:27.989 --> 00:36:30.550 send us some suggestions of podcast some subjects you would like for us to cover. 489 00:36:31.150 --> 00:36:35.739 We're going to continue to put out content and some more interviews and things 490 00:36:35.820 --> 00:36:39.139 like that in the coming weeks, but you can connect with us to ask 491 00:36:39.179 --> 00:36:45.539 any questions or to give comments on on our website, Charlotte dot cities for 492 00:36:45.619 --> 00:36:50.250 Life Dot Org. My email addresses there. It's D parks at cities for 493 00:36:50.329 --> 00:36:54.170 lifecom and it's vcasti Org at cities for Lifecom, if you get in touch 494 00:36:54.210 --> 00:36:59.730 with a Vicky. We also have a national website that we mentioned often that 495 00:37:00.050 --> 00:37:01.960 is designed to equip people to do sidewall counseling. 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