Is God Really Prolife in the Old Testament?

WEBVTT100:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me,200:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.830Lord, I am yours, Iam your. Welcome to the Gospel Center300:00:10.910 --> 00:00:13.869pro life podcast. In this episode, Vicky and I are going to talk400:00:13.910 --> 00:00:17.789about whether or not God is prolife in the Old Testament. I hope500:00:17.789 --> 00:00:27.660you're blessed as you join us.Stay tuned. I felt show passish touch600:00:28.100 --> 00:00:36.009your heart. Use But welcome tothe Gospel Center pro life podcast. We700:00:36.049 --> 00:00:39.450appreciate all those who join us today. We're going to talk about some of800:00:39.490 --> 00:00:45.689the difficult passages of scripture that seemto indicate that God is okay with abortion.900:00:46.770 --> 00:00:53.799Sometime ago we did a podcast aboutsome pro choice arguments and a lot1000:00:53.880 --> 00:00:56.479of those arguments had to do withyou. In the Bible doesn't even mention1100:00:56.479 --> 00:01:00.240abortion, or there's a passage inthe Bible that talks about how God is1200:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.120basically inducing an abortion and number chapterfive, and so we talked about that,1300:01:04.189 --> 00:01:07.870but you had sent me a messagealong the lines of talking about this1400:01:08.069 --> 00:01:14.230and talking about well, you know, doesn't God encourage abortions in then in1500:01:14.310 --> 00:01:18.189the Old Testament, and you know, there's certainly a lot of passages of1600:01:18.230 --> 00:01:22.540scripture that are sort of troubling asit as it pertains to the issue of1700:01:22.579 --> 00:01:25.500abortion and the value of life.And that's really what we're talking about,1800:01:25.540 --> 00:01:29.379not just abortion, with the valueof human life. And there are some1900:01:29.459 --> 00:01:33.090some troubling passages of scripture, Ithink, that we all sort of grapple2000:01:33.209 --> 00:01:34.489with and we all sort of strugglewith. You know, how can the2100:01:34.569 --> 00:01:38.090good God allow this or command that? And you know, of course,2200:01:38.250 --> 00:01:42.010you know, all boils down to, you know, if we were going2300:01:42.010 --> 00:01:45.609to some all of this up,is that he's God, he's the Lord.2400:01:45.890 --> 00:01:48.400We're not right and we don't knowthe in from the beginning, but2500:01:48.519 --> 00:01:52.239he does still. Yeah, youknow, that sort of like, you2600:01:52.359 --> 00:01:56.959know, sort of like just dodgingthe question really, like how can a2700:01:57.000 --> 00:02:01.189good God command these things? Andand how does this fit into a prolife2800:02:01.310 --> 00:02:07.270framework when we're talking about as Christians, it is our charge to stand for2900:02:07.389 --> 00:02:13.189life, and yet supposedly our Goddoesn't stand for life, at least in3000:02:13.229 --> 00:02:15.819the Old Testament. You some peoplehave a mentality. Will jump right into3100:02:15.860 --> 00:02:17.139these questions here in a minute,but you know, some people have the3200:02:17.219 --> 00:02:21.900mentality sort of like, you know, God got saved in the New Testament3300:02:23.020 --> 00:02:25.060and the Old Testament you know,he was, he was sort of mean3400:02:25.180 --> 00:02:29.340and wrathful, but in the NewTestament he's he's sort of Nice. Now,3500:02:29.699 --> 00:02:32.210you know, and of course weknow that the Bible tells us in3600:02:32.289 --> 00:02:36.409the Old Testament I am the Lord, I change, not right. God3700:02:36.530 --> 00:02:42.889throughout Old and New Testament is merciful, he's kind, he is rich in3800:02:43.129 --> 00:02:46.439mercy, slow to anger and richand loving kindness. But this is this3900:02:46.560 --> 00:02:50.759idea, of course, with somepeople who just have a misunderstanding of God,4000:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.159and of course he sort of benefitsthem to be able to accuse God4100:02:53.840 --> 00:02:58.479of being fathful and angry and mean, because they can remain in their sin4200:02:58.560 --> 00:03:00.270and not obey him because, afterall, he's no better than they are4300:03:00.349 --> 00:03:02.990in their minds. And maybe theyhaven't read revelation. Yeah, maybe,4400:03:04.229 --> 00:03:07.069yeah, they don't know how thehow this whole thing is. But you4500:03:07.150 --> 00:03:10.789know, we do need to grapplewith and try to answer these questions.4600:03:12.389 --> 00:03:15.860So so let's sort of jump intosome of the the information that you have4700:03:15.180 --> 00:03:19.580and, okay, talk about someof these troubling passage. Yeah, scripture.4800:03:19.659 --> 00:03:23.259Yeah. So, so I wasthinking that on a walk today.4900:03:23.300 --> 00:03:25.780I was I was thinking, well, is God pro life? You know,5000:03:25.900 --> 00:03:30.689we do get lots of questions fromfrom the pro socup pro choice people5100:03:30.770 --> 00:03:35.289saying, well, you know,God is the greatest mass murder of history.5200:03:35.370 --> 00:03:38.050You want to talk about a Holocaust, talk about God. Yeah,5300:03:38.169 --> 00:03:44.759you know, coming and ordering theIsraelites to to wipe out entire civilizations and5400:03:45.000 --> 00:03:46.800Noah's flood and all that kind ofstuff, and those are you know that5500:03:47.159 --> 00:03:50.840it's an important question. It shouldn'tbe just brushed off. It is.5600:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.400Yeah, it those sorts of questionskept me from the Lord and I think5700:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.069they keep a lot of people fromthe Lord. So I do think it's5800:03:57.110 --> 00:04:00.710it helps us to talk about them. And I'm hardly an expert, in5900:04:00.830 --> 00:04:04.590fact, I started really looking atsome of this stuff just this morning.6000:04:04.669 --> 00:04:11.539Yes, but but one of thethings that came across as I was thinking6100:04:11.580 --> 00:04:15.780about it. So is, isGod pro life or Pro Choice? Actually,6200:04:15.819 --> 00:04:18.459Google that is God pro life andthere's all kinds of hits. Where6300:04:18.660 --> 00:04:23.740is God pro life? And oneof the hits was from this this group6400:04:23.819 --> 00:04:29.449called Freedom From Religion Foundation? Okay, yeah, okay, so guess.6500:04:29.689 --> 00:04:33.689Yeah, Wonderful Group. Yeah,and the Reverend, I think it's Barry6600:04:33.810 --> 00:04:39.680Lynn, is the guys. Okay, you know pro abortion, claim to6700:04:39.720 --> 00:04:42.959be a reverend, yet is againsteverything God is for and for everything God6800:04:43.040 --> 00:04:46.040is against. It's sort of rightprediction. But anyway. Well, this6900:04:46.240 --> 00:04:51.480particular article is called God is sonot pro life. Okay, Anna,7000:04:53.550 --> 00:04:59.829right, exactly. So, soI started going through and and reading the7100:05:00.589 --> 00:05:03.430points that he makes for why Godis not pro life. So so not7200:05:03.589 --> 00:05:08.259so for a life. So I'lltell you them and I'll give you the7300:05:08.379 --> 00:05:13.819reference so that maybe you can wecan talk about okay, so this one7400:05:13.939 --> 00:05:20.060says God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including, quote, cursed shall be7500:05:20.180 --> 00:05:24.850the fruit of your womb and,quote, you will eat the fruit of7600:05:24.930 --> 00:05:30.290your womb, directly contradicting sanctity oflife claims. Okay, and so this7700:05:30.490 --> 00:05:35.600is deuteronomy twenty eight, okay.And and the there were two verses that7800:05:35.720 --> 00:05:41.439he picked out of that, verseeighteen and verse fifty three. Yeah,7900:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.279so it says deronomy. This isa new King James version. I don't8000:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.709know what version he's quoting there.Probably the new leftist Liberal version. This8100:05:49.910 --> 00:05:54.589is the new King James and itsays cursed shall be the fruit of your8200:05:54.629 --> 00:06:00.470body. And actually the title ofthis section and my Bible is curses on8300:06:00.790 --> 00:06:05.060disobedience. It begins with the blessingson obedience, though, so that's telling8400:06:05.139 --> 00:06:10.180us how that chapter begins its curseson the curse on disobedience. Curse shall8500:06:10.180 --> 00:06:13.339be the fruit of your body andthe produce of your land, in the8600:06:13.420 --> 00:06:16.180increase of your cat, on theoffspring give your flocks. Curses shall be8700:06:16.339 --> 00:06:19.610when you come in and curses shallbe when you go out, and the8800:06:19.689 --> 00:06:24.370Lord will send a curse. Sendon you, cursing, confusion, rebuke.8900:06:24.769 --> 00:06:28.370And then it goes on to ultimately, where's what's the the first exactly9000:06:29.009 --> 00:06:31.529case, fifty three. Yeah,and it says because there's a lot of9100:06:31.649 --> 00:06:35.000cursed, will you be cursed?Dis Curse of right. Yeah, he9200:06:35.160 --> 00:06:38.839starts out in that chapter. Blessedwill you be when you come in,9300:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.439when you go out. Blessed beyour cure crops and your flocks and all9400:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.680of this this. When you followGod, there's obvious obedience and then here's9500:06:45.720 --> 00:06:47.350the disobean ex thanks. It's thecurses. So we'll skip on down the9600:06:47.389 --> 00:06:51.629verse. Fifty three. And youshall eat. This is pretty pretty hefty9700:06:51.709 --> 00:06:56.589here. And Yeah, and prettypretty gross actually. You shall eat the9800:06:56.629 --> 00:07:00.069fruit of your own body, theflesh of your son's and your daughter's,9900:07:00.189 --> 00:07:03.660whom the Lord, your God,has given you in the siege and desperate10000:07:03.819 --> 00:07:09.420Straits in which your enemy shall distressyou. Yeah, yeah, so there's10100:07:09.500 --> 00:07:12.420like God is like saying, haha, you know, I'm not pro10200:07:13.139 --> 00:07:16.170life at all. I'm pro abortioneven, and I ump even want you10300:07:16.209 --> 00:07:18.649to eat your kids. Yeah,it's kind of what's and play it,10400:07:18.810 --> 00:07:23.050but right, and and that's whatthis guy that's the conclusion he comes to.10500:07:23.209 --> 00:07:28.769But really it's it's it's talking aboutthe prophecy of what is going to10600:07:28.850 --> 00:07:33.279happen if you disobey God compared towhen you obey God. And and the10700:07:33.399 --> 00:07:38.759point is that he talks about thefruit of your room eating the fruit of10800:07:38.839 --> 00:07:45.470your womb, because it's so horrific, it's shocking, a natural, cruel10900:07:46.189 --> 00:07:49.990and inhuman. And it it infact demonstrates the opposite point of what your11000:07:50.029 --> 00:07:56.509sky makes. It demonstrates that thatthat is the absolute worst thing you don't11100:07:56.589 --> 00:08:01.620do. And that's the result,then, of sin. We're SOLIN and11200:08:01.660 --> 00:08:05.019disobedience. Yeah, me. Soone of the the major points here.11300:08:05.180 --> 00:08:09.699It's, you know, God isto Israel a father. Right, God11400:08:09.860 --> 00:08:13.329is a father to us as Christians, but to Israel he's a father and11500:08:13.370 --> 00:08:18.810it's like a father warning. Here'stwo things going on, here's here's blessing11600:08:18.889 --> 00:08:22.129and here's cursing, and here's twochoices that are before you. And if11700:08:22.129 --> 00:08:26.519you walk in the blessing, whichis walking in obedience, acknowledge my commands,11800:08:26.639 --> 00:08:31.240do as I direct you to do, then here's the blessings that are11900:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.480going to come. You're basically everythingthat you do will be blessed. That's12000:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.440IT, Huh. On the otherhand, if you walk in disobedience,12100:08:39.799 --> 00:08:41.830here's going to be the result,and it's not just that God's going to12200:08:41.909 --> 00:08:46.830directly influence you to eat your children. What he's warning is is you're going12300:08:46.830 --> 00:08:50.350to be seized by these other nations. It's like the protective hand of God12400:08:52.029 --> 00:08:54.710that's over the children of Israel,in covenant with them, is going to12500:08:54.779 --> 00:09:00.700protect them from the from the Pagansthey are surrounding them, but that protective12600:09:00.740 --> 00:09:05.340hand will be lifted by their disobedienceand these pagan nations are going to seege,12700:09:05.419 --> 00:09:11.009and he's referring, I mean ultimatelythis does happen. This happens and12800:09:11.090 --> 00:09:15.210we're going to go to that passageand Isaiah, where God this this thing12900:09:15.250 --> 00:09:18.889is come to pass, or atleast you know the prophet talks about this.13000:09:18.009 --> 00:09:22.929This is God warning. You know, some kind of like me with13100:09:22.049 --> 00:09:24.679my kids, you know. Youknow I got you this new bike and13200:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.279want you to enjoy riding this bike, and it's great. If you ride13300:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.120it here on the little side road, that's fine, but if you ride13400:09:31.120 --> 00:09:35.000it on the interstate, you're notonly going to ruin your bike, but13500:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.480you're going to get hit by acar, you're going to get rolled under13600:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.470a transfer trick and get hipped open. We're going to get what you're you're13700:09:41.470 --> 00:09:43.590not going to rip him open right. It's a kind of the reason going13800:09:43.629 --> 00:09:46.389to be the result of disobedience,and that's sort of sort of what the13900:09:46.509 --> 00:09:50.750Lord's doing here. He's he's takingit to the extreme and saying, okay,14000:09:50.750 --> 00:09:54.259it's not just going to be thatyou skin your knee and fall off14100:09:54.340 --> 00:09:56.659your bike, but you're gonna betotal ruin. You know, in that14200:09:56.740 --> 00:10:01.620picture of a father toward his towardshis child. Yeah, and child sacrifice14300:10:01.980 --> 00:10:05.659was one of the that was whatthe Pagan nations were doing. Yeah,14400:10:05.659 --> 00:10:09.370and that was one of the thingsthat God really railed against when he had14500:10:09.769 --> 00:10:13.129pulled his chosen people out and saidyou will be different, you will be14600:10:13.169 --> 00:10:20.250separate, you from this, youwill not do this horrific, unnatural activity14700:10:20.409 --> 00:10:22.679that the Pagan nations were doing.Okay, so now this is probably the14800:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.519the verson is Aa that you weretalking about. It is a AE thousand,14900:10:26.519 --> 00:10:33.320threeteen and eighteen. So he isAyah is propheesized, prophesying the doom15000:10:33.480 --> 00:10:39.309for Babylon, including the murder ofunborn children. Yeah, and so so15100:10:39.590 --> 00:10:50.340this this site claims that this isshowing that that God has is certainly not15200:10:50.899 --> 00:10:54.019a pro life, not not assertingthe sanctity of life, but in fact15300:10:54.139 --> 00:10:58.139is declaring that not one of hispeople will live, not a man,15400:10:58.259 --> 00:11:01.740woman or child, not even babiesin the arms, as a result of15500:11:01.899 --> 00:11:07.690worshiping idols. So what's that passageactually say? It's as a three eighteen,15600:11:07.850 --> 00:11:11.250three hundred and eighteen says. Also, their bows will dash the young15700:11:11.330 --> 00:11:15.730men to pieces and they will haveno pity on the fruit of the womb15800:11:16.529 --> 00:11:20.559there are. Will Not spare children. Okay, yeah, yeah, so15900:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.919when when I read further about whatwas happening during that time? This was16000:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.440the prophecy again. It was aprophecy. It's prophesying, not it's not16100:11:31.600 --> 00:11:35.990saying God wants this to happen,it's saying this is what happens as a16200:11:37.149 --> 00:11:43.269result of Cyrus, of the notorious, notoriously cruel needs would do this.16300:11:43.669 --> 00:11:48.500Okay, not, God, right, God's not. God doesn't want us16400:11:48.500 --> 00:11:50.940to do this. He makes itclear he doesn't want us to do this.16500:11:50.419 --> 00:12:00.580But this barbaric invading group was goingto perpetrate this on these unborn children.16600:12:00.620 --> 00:12:05.169And again it's seen as horrific.Yeah, yeah, I mean the16700:12:05.570 --> 00:12:09.690point here again is the warning ofthe Lord. You know, God is16800:12:09.809 --> 00:12:16.480warning the children of Israel of thedestruction that comes through their rebellion against him.16900:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.279The Commands of God in the OldTestament to the children of Israel.17000:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.559There's there some weird commands there.Most of them are sort of practical,17100:12:24.600 --> 00:12:31.950right. I mean we talked aboutthe last podcast we did about some of17200:12:31.990 --> 00:12:35.830the biblical like the pro abortion people'sbiblical objections to the pro life stands,17300:12:35.950 --> 00:12:43.190you know, answering pro choice arguments. And you know that passage in exitus17400:12:43.190 --> 00:12:46.220chapter twenty one where if two menwere fighting together and they heard a pregnant17500:12:46.220 --> 00:12:50.620woman and she gives birth. Youknow, we will go through all that,17600:12:50.700 --> 00:12:54.659but that's sort of practical, right. But there's some other stuff in17700:12:54.779 --> 00:12:58.570the Old Testament. We were like, okay, you can't have to can't17800:12:58.610 --> 00:13:01.970have a garment made with two typesof threads. Like, what are these17900:13:01.210 --> 00:13:05.289things? You can't. Here's here'sa here's a fun one. You're not18000:13:05.370 --> 00:13:09.009supposed to cook a kid goat andits mother's milk, right, which you18100:13:09.090 --> 00:13:13.679know that's a strong temptation for mebecause I like cooking kid coats in their18200:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.840mother's milk. Right, you're likelooking at that and that's ridiculous, right,18300:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.600like what does that even mean?But these things had some sort of18400:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.120significance to do with the pagan nationsthat were around. You know, one18500:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.110of those commands is you should notsacrifice your children, burn them in the18600:13:28.230 --> 00:13:31.870fire to Molich. Right. Theseare one of those commands that God gave18700:13:31.990 --> 00:13:37.269the Children Israel, and they werecommands to preserve, to preserve the children18800:13:37.309 --> 00:13:41.220of Israel so that they don't gothe way of the Pagan nations, because18900:13:41.299 --> 00:13:46.460the pagan nations were so cruel inthe way that they treated right. You19000:13:46.539 --> 00:13:50.899know, anybody unborn children, bornchildren, women, all of this,19100:13:52.179 --> 00:13:56.090and God's have a better way foryou. And so these were protective and19200:13:56.409 --> 00:14:01.490again, these were warning the childrenof Israel that here's what can be the19300:14:01.570 --> 00:14:05.690result. These pagan nations got ussaying are merciless, right, so much19400:14:05.769 --> 00:14:09.970so that they'll even rip open thewomb of a pregnant woman. Will talk19500:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.120about that passage in just a second. Yeah, that they'll rip open the19600:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.120womb of a pregnant woman and anddash the baby to the ground. Right,19700:14:16.159 --> 00:14:22.639and it's like God saying that's really, really wicked. That's how bad19800:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.509these pagan nations. Exactly exactly merciless. They are, exactly so. And19900:14:26.669 --> 00:14:30.470in fact, I think that isthe next one. Yeah, and that's20000:14:30.470 --> 00:14:33.590an amost amus. Sweet, notthere yet. Let's go to that one.20100:14:33.590 --> 00:14:35.070Yeah, let's go to Jose A. Nine, okay, ten,20200:14:35.230 --> 00:14:41.580just sixteen, and I'm so thisis saying, Oh, this is that20300:14:41.700 --> 00:14:46.500one for rebelling against God. Samaria'speople will be killed, their babies will20400:14:46.500 --> 00:14:50.860be to death against the ground andthe pregnant women will be ripped up him20500:14:50.899 --> 00:14:54.210with with M go word. Soagain, the the author, who is,20600:14:56.610 --> 00:15:00.450you know, the freedom from religionauthor, says that this is proof20700:15:01.169 --> 00:15:07.200that, because God treats rebellion againstGod by by dashing babies to death and20800:15:07.320 --> 00:15:11.240ripping open pregnant women. So yeah, he is clearly not a pro life20900:15:11.279 --> 00:15:15.240God. So so let's see.So what does it actually say? This21000:15:15.399 --> 00:15:20.720Josiah nine and he cites ten tosixteen. Okay, I found Israel like21100:15:20.840 --> 00:15:24.269grapes in the Wilderness. I sawyour father's as a furdge, fruits of21200:15:24.629 --> 00:15:28.110on the fig tree and its firstseason. But they went to bail pure21300:15:28.789 --> 00:15:33.909and separated themselves to that shame.They become an abomination like the thing that21400:15:33.070 --> 00:15:39.340they loved. So they worshiped thisfalse god, this bail as Ephraim,21500:15:39.500 --> 00:15:43.220for their glory shall fly like,fly away, like a bird. No21600:15:43.419 --> 00:15:46.259birth, no pregnancy, no conception. Here's a point, though, to21700:15:46.340 --> 00:15:50.730sort of not rabbit trail, butgo on with this, this theme here,21800:15:52.009 --> 00:15:58.049that children are viewed in Israel asa blessing. Right, and so21900:15:58.169 --> 00:16:02.330the idea that, you know,when God made his covenor initially with the22000:16:02.370 --> 00:16:04.559children of Israel, he says,I will bless your bread in your water.22100:16:04.639 --> 00:16:08.639This is an exitus twenty five,I believe, where he says I'll22200:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.519bless your bread and your water,and this is again a covenant of Obedience.22300:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.519If you remain an obedient to me, I will bless your bread and22400:16:15.840 --> 00:16:19.190your water, no one will miscarryin your land. So I'm going to22500:16:19.269 --> 00:16:22.269bless your food and nobody's going tomiscarry, and no in the new animals22600:16:22.269 --> 00:16:26.309are going to miss car because miscarriageis always seen as a result of the22700:16:26.389 --> 00:16:29.669fall, a part of the curse, of part of disobedience. It's not22800:16:29.990 --> 00:16:33.460God, because the picture from aguy like this, this this pro abortion,22900:16:33.539 --> 00:16:36.860guys like God's writhe in his hands, waiting to be able to kill23000:16:36.940 --> 00:16:40.100some children in the womb. Whatever. It's like ridiculous. So this is23100:16:40.139 --> 00:16:42.779actually the opposite. He's saying thisis part of the curse and that he's23200:16:42.820 --> 00:16:45.860talking about that here. No birth, no pregnancy, no conception. That23300:16:45.980 --> 00:16:52.129would be a tremendous curse on thechildren of Israel, and so though they23400:16:52.210 --> 00:16:55.889bring up their children, they willbrave them to the last man. Yes,23500:16:56.009 --> 00:16:57.929woe to them when I depart fromthem. So here's that, that23600:16:59.129 --> 00:17:02.200language of the Lord saying I'm goingto depart from them in the sense that23700:17:02.480 --> 00:17:06.200his hand of protection is going togo, and that's what happens with our23800:17:06.279 --> 00:17:11.119sin. Our sin separates us fromfrom God. I'll going down to the23900:17:11.319 --> 00:17:15.509to the last first okay, VerseSixteen. E FREHIM is stricken the rudest,24000:17:15.509 --> 00:17:19.789dried up. They shall bear nofruit. Yes, yes, were24100:17:19.829 --> 00:17:23.150they to bear children, I wouldkill the darlings of their womb. And24200:17:23.269 --> 00:17:29.869so that's sort of you know this, this this passage that is implied from24300:17:29.869 --> 00:17:33.980this guy, to imagine that Godis sort of like writhe in his hands24400:17:33.059 --> 00:17:37.299at excited about killing babies in thewomb. But again, it's a warning.24500:17:37.420 --> 00:17:42.859It's a warning of what these pagannations are capable of and what they24600:17:42.900 --> 00:17:48.809actually will do with with the childrenof Israel, if God's hand of protection24700:17:48.970 --> 00:17:52.089is not on them. Yeah,and again, the commentary that that I24800:17:52.369 --> 00:18:00.160read said that Joseah, the prophet, is again for telling what what will24900:18:00.279 --> 00:18:03.880happen. Is this the hose that? Yeah, what will happen as a25000:18:03.960 --> 00:18:08.200result of their rebellion against God?And it describes the cruelties upon these hapless25100:18:08.240 --> 00:18:15.589people by the Assyrians in sacking thecity. So it's speaking of the barbarity25200:18:15.029 --> 00:18:21.670that would be perpetrated by the ammoniteson the women of Gilead. Nowhere does25300:18:21.710 --> 00:18:26.309it say that Israel will do suchbarbaric cruelty to God's children. Won't be25400:18:26.349 --> 00:18:32.019doing this, but it is theseinvading people that will be who are idolaters25500:18:32.099 --> 00:18:34.660and hate God and don't follow God, and this is the result of that,25600:18:34.740 --> 00:18:40.339that turning from God and the disobedienceagainst God, which is the common25700:18:40.420 --> 00:18:44.170theme, yeah, that we're seeingthroughout that. In fact, I read25800:18:44.170 --> 00:18:51.529another article this morning which was reallyinteresting, saying is God prolife or pro25900:18:51.650 --> 00:18:55.839choice? I think was the titleof it, and and the the author26000:18:55.920 --> 00:19:00.559concluded he was both. M He'sProlife, he his desires for us,26100:19:00.640 --> 00:19:04.400the way we were designed, isto protect and and promote sanctity of life,26200:19:04.960 --> 00:19:11.309but he also is pro choice inthe sense, not at all in26300:19:11.390 --> 00:19:15.390the sense that pro choice is usedtoday, yeah, but in the sense26400:19:15.470 --> 00:19:18.109that we are given a choice.Yeah, we are given a choice by26500:19:18.269 --> 00:19:22.430God to either follow him and obey, where there will be cursings, or26600:19:23.190 --> 00:19:29.779rebel against him and disobey and andthey're there are consequences there. H hearses.26700:19:30.140 --> 00:19:33.900Yeah, I mean the Deuteronomy passagethat we quote a lot. I26800:19:33.019 --> 00:19:37.299sat before you this day, lifeand death, blessing and cursing, okay.26900:19:37.380 --> 00:19:41.210So here's like the quiz. Right. This is what I explain to27000:19:41.289 --> 00:19:44.490some when I have conversations with abortionminded women or man. It says like27100:19:44.529 --> 00:19:48.529God's given you a quiz and there'stwo two questions on that quiz, or27200:19:48.569 --> 00:19:55.279two answers, life, blessing,death and cursing. So you check which27300:19:55.319 --> 00:19:59.000everyone and he's giving you the answer. Therefore, choose life. Right.27400:19:59.160 --> 00:20:02.359So he's giving you the quiz andhe's giving you the answer. So God27500:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.079shows us the way that he wantsto to go in. But there is27600:20:04.440 --> 00:20:11.430before human beings, there is theability to choose. God has given people27700:20:11.509 --> 00:20:14.829the ability to choose. You know, I hear people, you know,27800:20:14.869 --> 00:20:18.910when we encounter people at the abortionclinic and and and even pro choice people27900:20:18.910 --> 00:20:22.259will say something like, you know, God gives us the freedom to choose.28000:20:22.859 --> 00:20:26.779God gives us the right to choose. Yes, he certainly does.28100:20:26.819 --> 00:20:30.700I mean that's the US kind ofthe point. But just because God gives28200:20:30.740 --> 00:20:34.579you the ability to choose does notmean he's okay with the choice that you28300:20:34.700 --> 00:20:37.089make, because he's very clear aboutit. Right. It's a matter of28400:20:37.089 --> 00:20:42.809fact. It's the choices that wemake and the the results of those choices28500:20:42.849 --> 00:20:47.369that ultimately we're going to give anaccount before God for. So it's what28600:20:47.569 --> 00:20:52.599you choose when you are faced withthe decision life and death, blessing and28700:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.599cursing, that you'll be held accountablefor. God, for your free will,28800:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.039is that which you'll be held accountablefor. That's right. And even28900:21:00.039 --> 00:21:06.269though you know, God is thelaw giver and we kind of Mimic that29000:21:06.549 --> 00:21:11.470in in making laws in our nations, and and so you know, they,29100:21:11.710 --> 00:21:15.230I think the proborts will say,well, it's legal, so so29200:21:15.109 --> 00:21:21.539it's okay. But while God doesgive us the ability to make unjust laws,29300:21:21.660 --> 00:21:26.019he's his his laws for his peoplewere just laws and that is clearly29400:21:26.220 --> 00:21:30.859the path that he wants us tofollow. But we choose again to disregard29500:21:30.940 --> 00:21:36.410that. Yeah, so, okay. Let's see. Here's one from the29600:21:36.450 --> 00:21:42.369New Testament. This is in MatthewNineteen. Okay, this is still from29700:21:42.450 --> 00:21:47.640the the pro abortion. Freedom fromreligion. Yeah, from religion. Okay.29800:21:47.720 --> 00:21:52.519He said Jesus in this passage didnot express any special concern for unboard29900:21:52.559 --> 00:21:59.640and children during the anticipated end times. He says woe to pregnant women and30000:21:59.880 --> 00:22:06.190those who are nursing. So thisauthor is saying, Jesus is basically cursing,30100:22:06.589 --> 00:22:10.549okay, the pregnant women and thosewho are nursing. He's saying,30200:22:10.710 --> 00:22:14.789woe to them. It almost asa curse. Now that certainly it's not30300:22:14.869 --> 00:22:17.539how I read that pass yeah,no, not at all. That's like30400:22:17.779 --> 00:22:19.539this is this is again. It'sthe warning. Come Jesus, this is30500:22:22.059 --> 00:22:30.049this curse, this time of destructionis coming. He's not saying like it's30600:22:30.170 --> 00:22:33.809bad to be pregnant or to benursing, but we say it's going to30700:22:33.849 --> 00:22:40.329be really bad for everybody, butespecially for these women who are pregnant,30800:22:40.369 --> 00:22:44.440who are nursing. Right. Soagain it's a it's a warning, it's30900:22:44.519 --> 00:22:48.279a call from Jesus to the peopleof his day of here's what the destruction31000:22:48.359 --> 00:22:53.279is going to entail, and beprepared for it and repent. I mean31100:22:53.319 --> 00:23:00.269there's a passage and several passages inIsaiah, where Isaiah is pronouncing judgments.31200:23:00.990 --> 00:23:03.710He's saying this is how it's goingto be unless perhaps you might repent and31300:23:03.869 --> 00:23:08.549God would give you mercy. Soit's like the Prophet always holds out hope31400:23:08.869 --> 00:23:11.430that and in we see it asa pattern, right, we see it31500:23:11.549 --> 00:23:15.380with with Jonah. Yeah, Ithink it was you that were. You31600:23:15.460 --> 00:23:19.059were talking about you reading through Jonahnot too long ago and how God had31700:23:19.180 --> 00:23:23.539basically told Jonah, Jonah, you'regoing to go to nine A. I've31800:23:23.539 --> 00:23:26.450already decided I'm going to judge thesepeople, so you're just going to go31900:23:26.690 --> 00:23:30.450deliver the mail and then the judgment'scoming. Right, they're going to be32000:23:30.049 --> 00:23:34.690completely decimated. Jonah goes thinking he'sjust delivering the Mail and God's not going32100:23:34.730 --> 00:23:38.250to be merciful. They all repent, set cloth and ashes and fast for32200:23:38.329 --> 00:23:41.680like forty days. Everybody right.When it forty days, I do again.32300:23:41.960 --> 00:23:45.880They definitely they turned the right theyturned to God. What God do?32400:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.440He relented. He actually actually turnedback, even though he had said32500:23:48.559 --> 00:23:52.599I'm going to do this. Godhas this ability to change his mind if32600:23:52.599 --> 00:23:57.150he wants to. Now we canget into a subject about the sovereignty of32700:23:57.230 --> 00:24:02.029God and the immutability of God andall this other stuff. Right, I32800:24:02.069 --> 00:24:06.710don't think that's a subject for thisparticular podcast, but it is, you32900:24:06.789 --> 00:24:11.180know, amazing to see that Godintended these judgments. But really we see33000:24:11.259 --> 00:24:15.819what his heart really is every time. His heart is one of mercy and33100:24:17.099 --> 00:24:23.059one of a disposition of good willtoward those who would just agree with him33200:24:23.099 --> 00:24:26.650and just turned to him right,right. And you know what we were33300:24:26.690 --> 00:24:33.089talking about a little bit earlier,which is a really important passage for me,33400:24:33.329 --> 00:24:36.769was which exactly, I think illustratesthis point, is the passage of33500:24:36.890 --> 00:24:42.079when Abraham is is told to tosacrifice EZE and that that that he's posted33600:24:42.200 --> 00:24:47.519to bring Isaac up to the mountainand and sacrifice his only son, the33700:24:47.599 --> 00:24:51.799son of the of the promise thatGod had given to that would, you33800:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.829know, be the father of mennations. And and so Abraham does,33900:24:57.109 --> 00:25:02.910he he he brings Isaac up tothe mountain and he binds him and puts34000:25:02.950 --> 00:25:07.859him on the altar. And andfor four years that kept me from the34100:25:07.980 --> 00:25:14.339Lord because I'm thinking, how cruelis this God? I could I could34200:25:14.500 --> 00:25:18.619never follow a God that would tellus turn off your maternal instincts or your34300:25:18.660 --> 00:25:26.450paternal instincts and and sacrifice your onlychild for me and I completely didn't understand34400:25:26.730 --> 00:25:32.170that passage and and didn't want tofollow a God that would ask that.34500:25:32.849 --> 00:25:40.240But really I think God was makingagain a really important point that unless God34600:25:40.680 --> 00:25:49.000is primary of such importance that allelse is is secondary and pales in comparison34700:25:49.630 --> 00:25:55.150to the love of God and followingGod and obeying God, because he is34800:25:55.190 --> 00:25:57.349our creator, he is the onethat holds eternity in his hands, and34900:25:59.109 --> 00:26:04.940until we come to that realization wewill never truly submit our life to him35000:26:04.940 --> 00:26:11.900and never truly overcome sin, becausewe think that that our agenda is more35100:26:11.940 --> 00:26:18.140important. And Abraham came to thatunderstanding. He trusted God, and whether35200:26:18.180 --> 00:26:22.769he trusted that God was going toprovide the sacrifice, switch ultimately God did,35300:26:22.289 --> 00:26:26.089or whether he thought God would bringIsaac back to life, or whether35400:26:26.130 --> 00:26:30.089he thought, I'm going to doit because God has told me to do35500:26:30.250 --> 00:26:34.759it and God is more important eventhan my son. Yeah, and he35600:26:34.880 --> 00:26:40.880was willing to do it and heraises the knife to to sacrifice Isaac and35700:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.240God stays his hand and to methat is that is exactly what happened in35800:26:45.359 --> 00:26:51.470Jonah. It's exactly what happens toNoah and his family. It's what happens35900:26:51.630 --> 00:26:56.990to lot in in the story ofSodom and go Morah. It's what happens36000:26:56.069 --> 00:27:02.859to every single one of us whenwe are on the cusp of hell,36100:27:03.140 --> 00:27:08.299of destruction, of eternal separation fromGod, and God waits for us to36200:27:08.339 --> 00:27:14.779say, I'm sorry, yeah,and I will submit to whatever it is36300:27:15.259 --> 00:27:19.809that that your plan is for mylife, and at that moment he frees36400:27:19.849 --> 00:27:22.529us and we saved. Yeah,Sin It, you know. It's so36500:27:22.930 --> 00:27:26.690Abraham is called and actually there's apassage in the New Testament, believe it's36600:27:26.690 --> 00:27:29.930in Romans, where it talks about, you know, God, God,36700:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.559or maybe it's he breathed chapter livein the hall of faith, where it36800:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.119says, basically, Abraham knew thatGod was able to raise up Isaac back36900:27:37.200 --> 00:27:40.960from the dead, like God hadpromised that the promise is going to come,37000:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.190the blessing, because we're going tocome through Isaac to Abraham. And37100:27:45.829 --> 00:27:48.230even though God told him to sacrificeIsaac, he knew, since God say37200:27:48.309 --> 00:27:52.549said this is going to happen,the blessing is going to come through Isaac,37300:27:52.670 --> 00:27:53.910then if I kill him, thenGod's just going to have to raise37400:27:53.950 --> 00:27:57.190him from the dead. He hadthat much confidence in God and that's why37500:27:57.269 --> 00:28:02.059he is the father of faith.And what's sort of funny to me.37600:28:02.339 --> 00:28:06.900Okay, it's amazing, but it'salso sort of funny, and you gotta37700:28:07.019 --> 00:28:11.740just ever use your imagination to likehow would this actually play out in real37800:28:11.859 --> 00:28:15.730life? How did this play out? The the the night that Abraham told37900:28:15.769 --> 00:28:17.609Sarah, Hey, you know,listen, God, tell me to get38000:28:17.609 --> 00:28:19.809a sacrifice. I'M gonna go asare only son. So he jed I.38100:28:21.410 --> 00:28:25.569So here's the funny thing, though. It says that Abraham got up38200:28:25.690 --> 00:28:29.559early and did it. I'm like, man, okay, can out.38300:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.599So that his well, it's likehe's gonna get to it right away.38400:28:32.680 --> 00:28:33.799Take Care, it's just going toget so it's like for me, I'm38500:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.240thinking in my life, man,I'm going to drag my feet. I'm38600:28:37.519 --> 00:28:38.880I'm going to wait till if hetold me to do it tomorrow, that38700:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.230I'll do it at one hundred andfifty nine. So, you know,38800:28:41.869 --> 00:28:45.349fifty nine pm, I'll take careof it, but you know, I'm38900:28:45.349 --> 00:28:48.990gonna Drag my vie. Abraham likegot up early, went, you know,39000:28:48.150 --> 00:28:53.390and him and Isaac went on thatepic camping trip, and camping trips39100:28:53.430 --> 00:29:00.460were never the same around Abraham's house, House, to make a little funny39200:29:00.500 --> 00:29:04.299of that, but that's that's amazing, amazing story. Yeah, to think39300:29:04.900 --> 00:29:11.690sort of to your point, Godis the supreme being right he is the39400:29:11.809 --> 00:29:15.609creator, he is the Potter andwe are the clay and he is do39500:29:15.890 --> 00:29:19.049our devotion. Ultimately, kind oflike we started, you know, no39600:29:19.130 --> 00:29:26.599matter what conclusion we come to aboutthese passages, we are not God's accuser.39700:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.279He is the Lord. He cancommand whatever he wants. And when39800:29:30.359 --> 00:29:37.000God commands something, for example,and maybe will in the future do and39900:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.630I think we should do a podcastspecifically about God's command to Israel and going40000:29:41.670 --> 00:29:45.990into the promised land and how hecommanded them to wipe out everyone. And40100:29:45.150 --> 00:29:48.829that's a that's a pretty heavy onethat we that we grapple with. But40200:29:48.990 --> 00:29:53.740ultimately God, when he makes acommand like that, God can't be a40300:29:53.779 --> 00:29:57.779murderer. It's not in his nature, right. He is perfect, he40400:29:59.059 --> 00:30:06.339is holy and he is God andand Israel was to obey him. But40500:30:06.420 --> 00:30:10.170ultimately that's what it boils down to. God is God and we're not.40600:30:11.089 --> 00:30:15.529We are not God, and wehave in his word, not that God40700:30:15.650 --> 00:30:18.690got saved in the New Testament,like I started with. What we have40800:30:18.809 --> 00:30:22.920in his word this charge to loveeven our enemies, to love our neighbor40900:30:22.960 --> 00:30:30.160as ourselves. That passage love yourneighbor as yourself is actually an echo from41000:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.880the old testament when God tell theJender of Israel to love your neighbor as41100:30:33.960 --> 00:30:40.390yourself. So to imagine that thethe norm for God, for the God41200:30:40.470 --> 00:30:44.109of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,is to just be a baby murderer for41300:30:44.230 --> 00:30:47.710abortion all it is, is anabsurdity. Yeah, it's a matter of41400:30:47.750 --> 00:30:52.099fact. He often is contrasting hisnature, in the nature of his children,41500:30:52.339 --> 00:30:57.420with the nature of these pagan nationsand these pagan false gods who desired41600:30:59.140 --> 00:31:03.420blood and and and human sacrifice andall these other things. And you know,41700:31:03.500 --> 00:31:07.170like the false god bail that.You know they sacrifice their children to41800:31:07.450 --> 00:31:10.609to Molich and yet into the balesand Astra. And let me make sure.41900:31:10.650 --> 00:31:14.329I don't want you to close usbefore could do this last yeah,42000:31:14.529 --> 00:31:17.569passage, because any of the reallya great one. Amos, one and42100:31:17.609 --> 00:31:22.960thirteen. Yeah, because when Iread that, and I read that last42200:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.079week before. I maybe that waswhat started me thinking that this might be42300:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.200an interest of podcast, but Iread it last week and was thinking,42400:31:29.279 --> 00:31:36.950Wow, I think this is Godsaying as clearly as he could say abortion42500:31:37.549 --> 00:31:41.349is wrong. Yeah, and hewould not have us do it. So42600:31:41.509 --> 00:31:44.789so do you have that? Yep, got all right here. Okay,42700:31:45.230 --> 00:31:48.779it says, thus says the Lord, for three transgressions of the people of42800:31:48.819 --> 00:31:53.380Amn and for for I will notturn away its punishment. Because they ripped42900:31:53.460 --> 00:32:00.059open the womb with child in Gileadthat they might enlarge their territory. So43000:32:00.220 --> 00:32:04.609it's so much, you know,there's so much in that passage. First43100:32:04.609 --> 00:32:07.970of all, God will not revokethe punishment. This is so severe.43200:32:08.210 --> 00:32:14.650He will not revoke the punishment.Clearly they ripped open the pregnant women and43300:32:15.529 --> 00:32:21.200killed those babies. Yeah, andwhy? In order to enlarge their border.43400:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.160So they've got the rationalization even.Yeah, that probably seemed to them43500:32:24.920 --> 00:32:29.880a great reason to rip open pregnantwomen and kill the unborn baby. And43600:32:30.069 --> 00:32:34.029that's what we see. So Ithink this pattern is what we see at43700:32:34.109 --> 00:32:38.869the abortion center so often and bythe pro choice group. Abortion is okay43800:32:39.670 --> 00:32:45.579when there's a valid, good reasonfor doing it. And God is saying,43900:32:46.180 --> 00:32:51.619Ah, this is I will notrevoke the punishment, no matter how44000:32:51.779 --> 00:32:55.259good a reason you think for rippingopen these women and killing that unborn child.44100:32:55.500 --> 00:33:00.450It is a transgression. He onlyhe says there's three, three transgressions44200:33:00.769 --> 00:33:05.289and or for. So these areagainst a barbaric people. Yeah, or44300:33:05.529 --> 00:33:07.809transgressions, he mentions and he mentionsthe other ones in the book of Amos,44400:33:08.210 --> 00:33:13.799but one of those is abortion.Yeah, yeah, and it's sort44500:33:13.839 --> 00:33:19.240of like man, certainly God,through his people, Israel, made conquest44600:33:19.599 --> 00:33:24.240of the Promised Land and they wereto be brutal in some ways. But44700:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.710he's saying like, okay, yeah, commanded you guys to do this,44800:33:29.029 --> 00:33:32.829but these folks took it even astep further and they were ripping open the44900:33:32.869 --> 00:33:36.470womb. It's like this is athis is a pagan thing, this is45000:33:36.549 --> 00:33:40.980the pagan mindset that is able togo even even a step beyond what,45100:33:42.500 --> 00:33:45.019you know, what anyone that wouldbe doing. And you know, he45200:33:45.140 --> 00:33:51.019brings the judgment, the warning ofjudgment here, yeah, to the people45300:33:51.059 --> 00:33:53.259of them on. Yeah. Yeah. So to counter all of that,45400:33:53.539 --> 00:34:00.809then maybe just let's read a fewscriptures, look and advocating God's love of45500:34:01.769 --> 00:34:07.329the Preborn, to to show you, okay, not only did what the45600:34:08.489 --> 00:34:13.960the peat person that what was thename of that organization? Again, freedom45700:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.280from religion and from religion. Notonly, I think have we shown that45800:34:17.440 --> 00:34:23.429he's taking versus out of context andcompletely misinterpreting what what God says. But45900:34:23.670 --> 00:34:29.710but what does God say about aboutthe unborn? And I've just got a46000:34:30.590 --> 00:34:31.469have a whole bunch of them here. I won't read all of them,46100:34:31.590 --> 00:34:36.869but some one on one thousand ninehundred and seventy three. Your hands have46200:34:37.070 --> 00:34:40.420made me, informed me someone thirtynine, thirteen to sixteen, for you46300:34:40.619 --> 00:34:45.539formed my inward parts. You Unitedme together in my mother's womb. I46400:34:45.739 --> 00:34:50.300praise you, for I am fearfullyand wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works.46500:34:50.420 --> 00:34:52.929My soul knows it very well.My frame was not hidden from you46600:34:53.010 --> 00:34:58.050when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the46700:34:58.090 --> 00:35:01.329earth. Your eyes saw my unformedsubstance. In your book were written,46800:35:01.369 --> 00:35:06.050every one of them, the daysthat were formed for me, when as46900:35:06.050 --> 00:35:10.280yet there were none. Joe Ten, eleven to twelve. You clothed me47000:35:10.400 --> 00:35:16.119with skin and flesh. You Knitme together with bones and sinew. Some47100:35:16.360 --> 00:35:20.960one hundred three. Know that theLord is God. It is he who47200:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.110made us and we are his.We are his people, the sheep of47300:35:24.230 --> 00:35:28.710his pasture. Isaiah, for thousand, four hundred and twenty four. Thus47400:35:28.750 --> 00:35:31.230says the Lord, your Redeemer,who formed you from the womb. I47500:35:31.469 --> 00:35:36.219am the Lord who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens,47600:35:36.500 --> 00:35:38.860who spread out the earth by myself. So and there's, you know,47700:35:39.019 --> 00:35:45.099hundreds more, but the but thethe Lord who created the universe, who47800:35:45.179 --> 00:35:49.539alone stretches out the heavens. It'sthe same one who formed us in the47900:35:49.659 --> 00:35:52.730womb. To me that, youknow, how could you call God anything48000:35:53.250 --> 00:35:58.809but a loving father who has createdhis children and from the moment of conception,48100:35:59.369 --> 00:36:02.010has loved them and yet a planand a purpose, that I mean48200:36:02.329 --> 00:36:06.320a man. Well, we hopethis is a blessing to you, guys.48300:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.400I'm sure we'll talk some more aboutsome of these passages and and and48400:36:10.480 --> 00:36:15.480maybe we'll talk about the issue ofthe conquest of Canaan at some other point.48500:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.909Like to have some other folks comein. We'd mentioned having some some48600:36:20.150 --> 00:36:22.710scholarly smart of floats come yeah,take over, map up our mess.48700:36:22.869 --> 00:36:27.829Yeah, and and so we'll bedoing that in the future. 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