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I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours s and me,
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Lord, I am your. Welcome
to the Gospel Center pro life podcast and
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this episode we're going to talk with
Elizabeth Johnston, the activist Mommy, about
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how to raise children in the culture
of death. Hope you're blessed as you
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listen to this episode. Stay tuned. I felt show passis touch your heart.
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Use me well. Welcome to the
Gospel Center pro life podcast. I
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had with me today the activist Mommy, Elizabeth Johnston, and she's going to
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share her heart about raising your children
in the culture of death. We talked
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about the culture of death. You
know, primarily this is a this is
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a prolife podcast. We're talking about
the issue of abortion in light of the
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Gospels. We're going to focus on
that issue and her heart is, you
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know, toward that issue, saving
babies and proclaiming the Gospel, but also
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might touch on even some other larger
cultural issues, because we live in a
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culture of deaths or when it get
into some of the nitty gritty of that.
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But introduce yourself just real quick on
your people probably know you. They've
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heard the activist Mommy thing and they've
seen some of your your information or some
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of your social media stuff out there. But introduce yourself and, yeah,
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my name is Elizabeth Johnston and I've
been married for twenty years and my husband
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and I have been blessed us to
give birth to actually sixteen children. Six
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have gone on to be with the
Lord or miscarried and we have ten living
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children, okay, and we have
really raised our children on the front lines
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of abortion clinics, long before I
was ever the activist Mommy, okay,
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we've been taking our children to abortion
clinics ever since I've been married, yeah,
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and going and praying and offering help
and hope to the women, men
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and women going in and honestly,
it's one of the greatest things we could
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have ever done as a family to
teach our children the difference between right and
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wrong, teach our children what's important
in life, show our children what happens
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when you live a broken and sinful
life, how sin, yeah, leads
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to brokenness and how you want to
avoid that in your life. Teaching our
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children to become passionate toward those who
are in broken situations and hard situations.
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Honestly, so much of that has
been learned on the sidewalks outside abortion clinics
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these last twenty years. It's not
something you can just teach with a book.
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Yeah, you know, you have
to show and not just tell.
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Yeah, and that's one of the
greatest ways parents today can be involved in
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a life changing ministry and at the
same time be changing the lives of their
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children probably eternity. Yeah, so, I mean you sort of jumped right
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in there talking about bringing your kids. You have ten kids and you're bringing
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these ten kids out to an abortion
clinic and some people think you know.
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No problem to me. My kids
been raising from an abortion clinic to but
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some people who are listening might think
you know and that's that's that's a little
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extreme. You know, we teach
our kids you bet abortions bad, but
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take them out to an abortion clinic. That's sort of like, you know,
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that's taking it to the next level. What would you say to people
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who sort of that's that's a barrier
for them, like I'm not going to
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take my kids to an abortion clinic? Well, abortion clinics are the darkest
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place, yeah, any city,
and they need the light of the Gospel
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more than any place in the city. And so I think it's a wonderful
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opportunity to have your children. They
are learning how to Minister Hope and Minister
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The Gospel to people. You know, we named our ten child after a
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woman named Eva Adol okay who survived
a concentration camp as a child and now
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she's in hers and she's actually been
arrested many times for her pro life work
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here in again America, once she
had moved here. But Eva talks about
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how she wishes so much that when
she was suffering in a concentration camp,
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and a brutal, brutal suffering.
Yeah, Kenny, wouldn't even be able
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to discuss the suffering here on your
podcast. She talks about how she wishes
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so much that Christians, not a
couple of Christians, but Christians by the
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thousands, had laid their bodies on
the train tracks that were harding people made
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in the image of God, you
off to these concentration camps. How she
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wished that they had sacrifice because you
know, the the authorities wouldn't of a
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cared if it had been two people
laying on the tracks, but if thousands
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had had come to their aid in
unity as the body of Christ, so
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many lives would have been saved and
so you know, I don't want my
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children to ask me twenty years from
now, when abortion is outlawed, just
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like slavery is outlawed now, and
and they ask me, mom, Dad,
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what did you do? Yeah,
you know, they were, they
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really killing babies on main street.
Yeah, they were actually doing the imagine.
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Imagine it's outlawed twenty years from now
and it's unthinkable. We can't even
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fathom that this is happening, just
like we can't fathom, you know,
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kidnapping people and and, you know, putting chains around their necks and their
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feet. Right now we can't fathom
this. There's going to be a day,
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Lord Willing, that we're going to
have the same victory over a board.
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Yeah, Amen, when our children
asked us, what were you doing
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when they were killing babies, and
all you can say is, well,
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I was going to work every day
and I was voting Republican and I was
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going to chanse on Sunday. I
mean, don't we want to be able
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to say that we did more than
that, that we were willing to risk
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a little something for the sake of
these people made in the image of God?
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And that's what these babies are inside
their mother's wombs, and so you
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know, I'm it's not any more
dangerous than any other ministry. You do
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outside really to to peep bol regardless
of what it is, and you know
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you have a constitutional right to stand
on the sidewalk and exercise your free speech
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rights and you don't have to be
aggressive. Again, you can just come
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and pray. You'll be amazed if
you just show up and make yourself available.
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How you know? Possibly within hours
you could have a woman talking you,
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telling you that her pimp brought her
here to get an abortion and she
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wants help and she wants out and
she doesn't want to kill her baby.
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It's incredible the situations you'll find ourselves. The statement just show up is a
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very relevant statement when it comes to
being at an abortion clinic. So sort
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of what I hear you saying is
and a lot of Christian parents, I
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mean, listen, as Christian parents
we need to be teaching our kids the
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word of God right. We need
to be teaching our kids what Jesus taught
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and Jesus law, which is the
law of Love, Love God and love
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your neighbor. But what I hear
you saying is as that as Christian parents,
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we don't just need to teach our
kids that from the Bible. We
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do, but we need to show
them that where other people need to be
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loved. Right, we talk about
love, we talk about our desire and
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our need to love our neighbor,
but where our neighbors are being killed,
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let's go love them. They're absolutely
faith without works is dead. Yeah,
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and so how impressive is your faith
to your children when they don't see works
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accompanying it? Yeah, and and
honestly, in order to be salt and
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light, you got to get out
of your house. Yeah, how are
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the how are you salt in life? You're never out of your house.
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And you know, I'm a part
of the homeschool community. I have homes
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gold every one of my children,
all the way from the beginning. Yeah,
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and we've, you know, gone
to homeschool conferences and I'm speaking at
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homeschool conferences, and this is actually
when you probably have homeschoolers listening to your
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podcast. Yeah, this is one
of the witnesses, I would say,
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in the homeschool community. Is that
the salt is in the Shaker. Yeah,
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and it's not all. I like
that. Like you bring that point
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up, because you're right. It's
like we homeschool to shield our kids.
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And you know, listen, people
talk about helicopter MOMS and dad's and shielding
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our kids. We need to shield
our out of it, to shield our
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kids from sin. No Shame,
course. Yeah, but it doesn't mean
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that we're not. They're going to
be exposed to sin, it's just in
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the proper context. Yes, so
I like that you brought up. In
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the homeschool movement people want to shield
their kids. Yes, and as people
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people ask me, you bring your
kids to an abortion clinic and people are
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cussing and yelling and on it.
It's like this. My kids are going
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to hear cussing. It's better for
me that they heard in that contest and
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they heard in some other contexts,
because they at least can see the distinction
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between light and darkness. You kind
of get that same let them hear it
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in the context of Mommy and daddy
reproving it of yeah, and daddy shedding
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light on the situation and bringing the
truth to the person. Absolutely my kids
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have been exposed to all kinds of
things, all kinds of arguments, whether
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it be arguments for sexual anarchy,
arguments for abortion, arguments for evolution,
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we love our children to be exposed
to those things. We're not threatened or
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intimidated by that at all. Let
it be in the context of you being
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right there with them on the front
lines of the right issues. And those
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things have just shaped my children into
really warriors. You know, my kids,
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my older kids, they are passionate
about this. They're not like uninterested
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bystanders. You know, mom's dragging
me out of the clinic. Oh No,
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no, no, no, let
me explain. They are waking me
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up to go to the abortion clinic. They are saying mom, get,
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get your mom out of bed.
Yeah, let's get out there and rescue
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children. Yeah, because you know
they've they've felt that feeling that calms when
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you save a child from abortion.
Yeah, I mean it's addictive. There's
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nothing like that feeling about those saving
a life. And would you rather your
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kids to be addicted to fortnight or
or love that feeling so much they get
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when they see a child saved from
from abortion? My kids love it and
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and they're not into video games and
stuff, because frontlines ministry is exciting.
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You know, there's nothing, nothing
better than that, and I would I
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would like to say that as parents, are our duty is to God first
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and our marriage is super important and
we need to be willing to put our
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children first and and very important ways
and be weird in the culture if necessary.
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For the I've only been the activist
mommy for like three years, okay,
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as far as that title in that
platform or whatever. Before that I
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never intended on being a public figure
in any way. I was just a
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diaper bag carrying homeschool mom who poured
everything into my children and my husband and
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their giftings and their passions. Yeah, and I want to say to the
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young mother's listening right now that that
is super important and you have to say
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no to a lot of things if
you want a godly successful family. You
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have to say no to a lot
of things that are going to pull at
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you in this culture, in ministry, in Church, you're going to be
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asked to volunteer, to do this
and that and the other, and I've
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seen so many moms like segregate themselves
from their children because the moms are doing
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all of these wonderful ministry activities but
they're not spending the time that it absolutely
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takes to nurture your children in the
Lord, to train them in the word
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to discipline them, to teach them
to be, you know, Amazing Warriors
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for God, you've got to say
no, you got to be willing to
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be weird if necessary. Maybe your
kids aren't going to necessarily go to the
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youth group or the Sunday school class
and you're had to make hard decisions that
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your children won't always understand in order
for you to do what you believe is
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best for their their souls and best
for their upbringing. And so I just
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want to say to the younger mom's
listening that don't feel guilty that you're not
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doing all the stuff that I'm doing
right now. I'm in a different season
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of life where I've got all these
older children who are helping me. I
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would have never done, I repeat, I would have never done and what
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I'm doing right now if I just
had four or five little stairstep young children.
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Yeah, I poured everything into those
young children and it has everything to
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do with where I am right now
as a parent and how we're all now
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working together in in ministry. It
has everything to do with any success that
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I have had. And and don't
feel guilty. Don't don't go out and
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save the world and lose your children. Your children have to be before the
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world. Yeah, yes, one
of the things that we make sure with
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our volunteers. We do have some
homeschool moms that are volunteers and some young
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moms and and some dads too,
and we make sure, hey, listen,
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your first ministry is to your family. If you have the neglect that
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to come out here, then you're
not you shouldn't be out here right.
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And so you know, that's that's
a good word, getting good encouragement.
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But this, you know, this
battle, you know, not just in
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front of the abortion clinic, because
you're involved in more than that. You're
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doing stuff nationally, you're speaking nationally. You did the day of morning.
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I did want to bring the day
of morning thing up in New York,
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when the governor and the the legislature
there past some of those radical pro abortion
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legislation. Ever, speak a little
bit about your burden with that, that
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event, the day of morning thing, and just you know, a little
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bit of how the Lord Progress that
thing, because that was that was an
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amazing movement. It was a pivotal
moment in our nation. I think that
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a sleeping church suddenly woke up.
Yeah, it shouldn't have taken that we
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should be just as outraged at a
five week old in the uterus being murdered
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as a forty week old baby.
Ye, murdered. But unfortunately, because
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of the lethargy and the compromise in
the church, this is what it took.
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And so when governor Cuomo signed that
outrageous piece of infantaside legislation, and
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all, a probortion legislation is outrageous, I should add this, this particularly
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upset the sensibilities of Americans and of
believers, and so there was a huge
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outcry and there was there was a
huge cry even to me individually, Elizabeth,
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what are we going to do about
this? Yeah, from people who
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follow what I do and and we
prayed about it and I got a team
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together and said, you know,
what is our response to this? What
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should God's people response be to this? And we just said, you know,
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second chronicle, fourteen, morning morning, repenting sackcloth and ashes and apologizing
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to the Lord for what we've done. If my people, who are called
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by my name, will homma themselves
and pray and seat my face and turn
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from their weeked ways, then,
and only then, well, I hear
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from heaven and forgive their sins and
heal their land, and we all know
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that we desperately need healing in our
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We called for the entire nation to
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February and we also held a large
service in all beny, New York,
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right in the belly of the beast
there where the legislation was signed at the
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State House. And Wow, Daniel, I know you watched to be a
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live stream here, what a powerful
anointed time and the way the Holy Spirit
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was with us as we cried out
to God. And we've seen a lot
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of legislation and and a lot of
pushback came after that and a lot of
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people going out onto the front lines
to pray and to offer help to men
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and women as a result of the
day of mourning. And what happy I
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think you somebody said that in that
legislation and then the other several pieces of
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pro, radical pro abortion legislation that
came out like the devil overplayed his hand.
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continues, not just a onetime thing. Yeah, we've had we've seen an
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influx and people who are want to
be involved with us as a ministry.
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seen the tension. I'm sure you've gotten
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some some feedback on your facebook and
social media all that, from people who
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just stirred up and there. You
know, they've been in the dark,
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or not in the dark maybe,
but just been asleep for a while.
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to these to these things. And during
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the day of morning, we work
together on a website called, yes,
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sidewalks for life, yeah, calm, with the number for sidewalks for lifecom
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and plug in there, yeah,
and which we're trying to provide resources in
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training, even video training, that
we have there on the website. And
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you help. We work together on
that because we we realize, you know,
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what are we going to do with
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four thousand people came calling you to
action, but we don't have an actually
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for yeah, to the all of
New York, day of morning and Fortyzero,
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we're watching be a live stream all
one time. And like, what
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do we do with all these people
who are ready to do something and put
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feet to their their prayers? Yeah, of repentance and and so sidewalks for
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livecom is a great resource for your
podcast listeners to go to and get some
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training and even what to say and
what not to say when you're out there.
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It's a great resource and help you
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never been out to an abortion clinic
before. Yeah, so I think we've
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touched on the activist part a lot
and I think we could probably touch on
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a lot more of that. You
know, talking about the LGBTQ, X
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Y Z three Po Agenda and how
you how you fought that sort of thing.
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But I want to talk about the
mommy part. You mentioned some of
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that and with that just awesome encouragement
for MOMS to do the main thing.
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But what does it look like on
a daytoday basis for an activists mommy from
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for a mother like many Christian moms, like every Christian mom, who's passionate
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about the stuff that Jesus is passionate
about, yeah, and is passionately opposed
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to the things the devil's trying to
push. But but really, day today
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they've got kids that they've got a
they've got a ten too, and they've
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got a train and they've got a
teach and that's their first ministry. What
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does it look like on a daytoday? Base Im, and I'm not talking
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about break down your day and what
serially eat in the morning that, but
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just, you know, just kind
of nets and bolts. You know,
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MOMS are amazing. MOMS are multitaskers. Nobody can multitask like a mom.
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Yeah, and honestly, I can
change a diaper, Cook up some Bacon
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and organize a drag Queen Story.
Are protest faster and most men can probably
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read one email. Probably. I
don't mean for that to come across the
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wrong way, but there's something about
MOMS that they really do have a knack
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for multitasking, and so that's what
the activist Mommy is doing. Yeah,
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is cooking for children in the kitchen, reading emails, sitting down on the
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couch. I am working with my
young ones, who can't read real fluently
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yet, so we're still working on
phonics and we're adding and subtracting with their
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school books, and while I'm doing
that, I may be taking a couple
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phone calls and then, you know
what, come twelve o'clock, I may
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be telling my seventeen year old we
watch the children, I have a quick
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interview and I run into the bathroom
and hide and I do a quick interview
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with fifteen minutes. Then I come
back out and you know, we're continuing
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on with our day. I personally
make sure that my homeschooling functions without me,
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mostly, yeah, that the children
work very independently on their schooling.
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I pick things that do not require
a lot of me because of this season
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that I'm in, whereas used to
and the in the first ten, fifteen
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years of home schooling, you know, my homeschool day might have lasted most
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of the day and till to a
clock or something, whereas now the only
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ones that need me are like the
the five year old and a seven year
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old, and the rest of them
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It's amazing, yeah, how easy
it is to make your home school
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work that way. Yeah, and
you know, you don't have to grade
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papers every day. It's something you
can do once a week, once a
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month. You can utilize programs that
do the grating themselves, so you don't
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have to do that. There's so
many amazing resources out there where you can
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have your children at home, you
can be training them in the nurture and
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admonition of the Lord. You can
be protecting them from the absolute evil insanity
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that they're getting exposed to in the
public schools. You can be doing all
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of that and at the same time, you know, you could be maybe
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going to your school board meeting that
evening to fight the transgender bathroom policy in
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your in your school. And you
can do it as a family, and
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I highly encourage you take your kids
to do these things with you. That
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is I don't know why parents think
they have to go do these things without
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their children. Know you want your
kids and toe. These experiences are life
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changing. They will never forget seeing
their MOMS stand up at the at the
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school board meeting and and fight for
truth. You know, don't miss those
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life changing moments. Take them with
you. There's so many things you could
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do and I would just say do
what it is that God is laid on
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your heart. We are all a
different part of the body of Christ.
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Someone's the Pinkies, someone's the you
know, the nose, and do what
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he's laid on your heart. Maybe
you need to run for school board,
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maybe you need to deal with an
issue with the city council, maybe you
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need to be at the soup kitchen. Whatever it is that God has put
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on your heart. Be Obedient in
that thing. Don't fear and be obedient.
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And and it's like David when he
when he slayed the lion and the
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bear, you know, with his
bare hands and and he used his faith
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and courage in God to do those
things. And then God said, all
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right, I'm gonna give you Goliath. You know, if you'll be obedient
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in those little things, you might
be amazed in just a few short years,
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which is what I have seen happen
to me, not asking for this
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to APP and how God might bring
giants to slay your way if you'll just
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be faithful. He's looking for faithfulness. I mean be faithful in the nursing,
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the midnight nursing and the diaper changes. There's not one diaper change you
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do that God isn't seeing. He's
seeing every bit of Your Mundane, Boring
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faithfulness around the house or whatever.
Maybe you're a working woman, whatever the
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situation is, He sees your faithfulness. Be Courageous when he gives gives you
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something. You something's burning on your
heart and man, you know you better
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watch out because God's about to do
great things. Man. So I hear
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you say in you know, find
out where God has called you and you
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create. Me If I'm wrong about
this, but bring your kids along.
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Yeah, US always, I think
in our society, you know, even
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the church, the church probably is
one of the most segregated entities on the
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face of the planet. We segregate
based on race, we segregate, even
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if within our programs, based on
your male and female and age group and
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all that stuff. Excuse me.
Some of that stuff, I guess,
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can be appropriate and there can be
appropriate times to have, you know,
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men's Bible studies or whatever, but
for the most part it seems to me
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that we need to be serving together
and doing stuff together. And when you
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have a mom who you know,
sometimes the husband, listen, sometimes men
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have to work nine to five and
it just can't be there and involved in
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all those things. But right when
I see you guys and I see you
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family doing stuff on a regular basis, it's like you take everybody you can
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and everybody's inteen passenger. Vani pull
off. That's right, because this is
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like we're serving God together as a
family. So sort of, if you
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can speak to that mentality and how
to sort of because it, because it
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is you know, we live in
a culture of death and I wanted to
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kind of get to that point.
We're talking about a culture of death.
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We're talking about a culture who basically
sees children as a burden, yeah,
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and sees, you know, pregnancy
as a disease. How do we?
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Even in the church, people have
embraced this mentality. How do you?
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How do you cast that mentality off
and say, you know what, I
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think having ten children is a blessing, not a burden. Yes, how
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do you throw that thing off and
just walking what God's Word says? Children
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are blessing from the Lord? Yes, and embrace, I think, a
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biblical mentality that we need to be
serving as a family and children aren't asset
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rather than a hinderance? It takes
effort, yeah, it takes energy,
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because what it is is completely swimming
against the current to do this. Yeah,
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even in Christians Society, Christians circles
I'm talking about. If you are
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not willing to swim against the current, even in the church, you this,
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this is one way where you'll just
be like everyone else. Yeah,
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and so definitely as a family,
pretty much, if we haven't been able
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to do something as a family over
the first twenty years of of our parenting
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we haven't done it. Yeah,
we have chosen to do ministry related activities
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that we can bring our children along
and even when my husband's had to travel
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arrive, I've had to travel,
we always try to take at least one
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child. If it's an expensive plane
ticket or something, try to take one
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child with it and, yeah,
with us and let it be a time
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of, you know, bonding.
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us the first twenty years and thank
God we stood our ground and we stayed
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the course on this, because the
Lord was really speaking to us about this
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that we didn't want our children necessarily
to be pawned off to the children situation
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or the youth group. We wanted
them to experience the big boy and big
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girl anointing in mom and dad's service. Yeah, and I think that that
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has an impact on on our children. And so we were always weird like
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we our kids didn't go to children's
church, they didn't go to youth group
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because not because we didn't think that
the teachers were awesome. The teachers were
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awesome, they were amazing, but
there is something to be said for a
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lot of interactions that take place between
peers, when parents are not their supervising
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and when you are assuming that everything
is okay. Everything's not always okay.
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your children are being exposed to things and
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they don't you never hear about it, you will never know what they were
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exposed to, and so you're not
able to counter it, you're not able
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to shed truth into that situation because
you're not going to come to you and
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tell you about things that are that
are uncomfortable, that they were exposed to,
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because then they feel like they're part
of the problem, they're guilty of
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doing something wrong. And so we
always had our children with us and we
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were weird, yeah, because to
the church, at the church, you'll
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be greeted by greaders telling you right
where to take your children, and we
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would always, with a big small
on our face plight was say okay,
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thank you very much, and then
we marked our children right there and with
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US two services. I can remember
very distinctly being a part of a small
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group. You know, churches have
home groups, yes, small groups throughout
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the week, and we always tried
to be a part of a small group
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if a church offered that. Being
a part of these small groups where we
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would go with our children and how, even if that meant you got to
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entertain them a little bit, you
got to have coloring books and crayons and
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things to keep them quiet while the
Bible study is going on. And no
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one else ever had their children.
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teenagers were maybe at a youth group, kids were with a babysitter or somewhere
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else. Maybe it's some children's thing
and the kids are never there. Yeah,
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and we were always the only ones
with our children and I just I
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think it's one of the best decisions, honestly. Yeah, we made as
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parents and has shaped our you know, my kids are very you can attested
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this. My children very comfortable around
adults. Yeah, right, very conversational,
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confident around adults, and I think
that when you're always putting children with
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other children, it's not natural for
children to be comfortable around adults. And
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and we we should be training our
children for a future and how it's going
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to be in the workplace or in
ministry. And so that was a weird
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thing that we did and it was
definitely against the current, even in the
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body of Christ. Yeah, and
I think it was a very important decision
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and one that we continue to operate
in. You know, we go to
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we go to a family integrated church, as some would call it, where
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the children are are in the service
with the parents and feeling the same anointing
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and getting the same type of teaching. And that's what I want for my
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kids. Yeah, so it takes. You know, I would say from
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my experience and what you share with
me, it takes some intentionality and again,
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not just flowing with the with the
current of society. And you know,
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as it you pertains to the issue
of abortion, and not just teaching
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your kids and abortion is bad,
but teach them because here's here's my thinking
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is, we don't just teach our
kids something it's bad, we teach them
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how to address the issue. Right. So this is not just a bad
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thing, let's stay away from it. This is a bad thing and we
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are called to address it. And
so what are you are you saying is
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like take some intentionality. Yes,
so, so in our kids lives,
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to help our kids to be the
salt you mentioned before. You know,
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so many in the homeschool movement or
whatever. The salt is still in the
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Shaker and you're talking about we need
to be intentional about getting it out right,
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getting the salt out of the Shaker
in our in our families. What
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are some like? I don't know, just practical things, just basic practical
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stuff that people can do for their
kids in their personal life too, and
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and and of course in their family
life, to be countercultural, but but
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really to be going against the grain, but only because society is going against
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God's grain. Yes, yes,
well, what we were just speaking about
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is one issue in which we see
how even the church is allowing some anti
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child thinking, okay, to seep
in. Right now, the kids go
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over here right, yeah, they're
not with us in the in the big
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service. You know there that that
it lot in a lot of ways can
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be not always, but can be
rooted in an anti child mentality. Yeah,
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and so we you know what,
if you don't like us being with
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our kids, then we're not going
to be involved in what you're doing.
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You know about like our kids are
part of the package. If we go,
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they go. Yeah, sure,
and so that that's important, I
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think as a family. Obviously,
living the Christian life in a real way
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in your home on a seven basis
has to be there. If you're living
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a hypocritical life. If your kids
see one thing on Sunday and another thing
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throughout the week, you're you're going
to fail. Yes, a parent,
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it's going to be a very,
very toxic in your ability to try to
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ever speak into your child's life,
because they will lose all respect for you.
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And so consecrating yourself to God and
being faithful to God, seven and
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letting your children you know what,
apologizing to your children. Yeah, that
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was going to mention that because,
you know, we we sort of put
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out there there's these principles. You
read the books, right. Yeah,
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I've read the the training manuals for
kids. You know how to train your
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kids and and all that stuff,
and it's like we're almost take this mentality
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and that, you know, we
need to be perfect and we want to
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show any weakness. One of the
things I've learned, and I think you're
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about to hit that point, is
like repenting to your kids sometimes does more
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than even like having a pretended at
least, to have it all in the
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road. Absolutely they've got to see
that you struggle with the flesh just like
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they do, but that you,
when you struggle with it, you do
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what God expects you to do.
Yeah, you repent and you get restored.
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You know, if you mistreat someone, for me it's normally losing my
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patience with my children and the activist
mommy loses are paid. Yeah, yes,
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you know, for me it would
be raising my voice in my children.
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Yeah, and so then needing to
go back and say, I'm sorry,
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we forgive me and yeah, eat
crow, eat a little bit of
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crow. You know, your child
will respect that. They see you walking
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out a genuine faith in Jesus Christ
right and a desire to be a good
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parent, and they will understand that
you're going to fail and they will come
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back to those moments, you know, when they screw up, when they
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sin and they are at a cross
roads of deciding how am I going to
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respond to this sin in my life? They'll come back to those moments that
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they saw mom and dad repent.
And so, yeah, this isn't like
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some kind of fake you know,
are you put up? Yeah, that
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that you're perfect. I'm talking about
genuine love for God, day in and
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day out, trying to do your
best for God, and that also will
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always include, at times, having
to repent to the Lord, repent to
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people in your life. Sure,
do you feel like, and I don't
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know you'll agree with me, says
it's kind of like us us also softball.
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But your relationship with your husband,
we had we mentioned him a little
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bit. Dr Johnston. Yes,
do you feel like that? That relationship?
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You know, I've told people that
relationship, the husband wife relationship,
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is the most important relationship in your
kids lives, right apart from obviously a
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relationship with the Lord, because that
relationship, the husband wife relationship, it
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isn't going to need be what it
needs to be unless we're in line with
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the Lord. But the husband and
wife relationship and just doing practical stuff there
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you find the investment there also pays
off in the children's lives. Oh my
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goodness, so much. I mean
my husband I both come from broken families
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and and you know, we really
said we planned on the family tree looking
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different from our marriage on, and
both of our parents were divorced, and
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so it's something that you have to
really, really work hard at. And
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obviously ten children brings, you know, everyday stress into your life and as
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kids get older and are dealing with
bigger things and bigger issues and life decisions,
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and I haven't even entered grandparents stage
yet. I as I enter that
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stage, I can't even fathom how
much I'm going to have to be on
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my knees for grand babies and and
and for my children. But yes,
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the the marriage relationship, I would
say definitely try to have a one night
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a week, yeah, or day, whatever the situation is for you,
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a time a week where you have
a date with your with your spouse,
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and just decompress. And from that
means like upscale restaurant? No, we
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can be peb and Ja and the
backyard if necessary, if there's not a
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babysitter. Just an intentional attempt,
and we've done it at home before.
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We've done something in our bedroom,
you know, cook a meal and and
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have a candle light, Yep,
and shut the door and kids are watching
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a video. Whatever. Does it
have to be fancy? Just an intentional
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effort to have conversation more than where
we going? What are we doing?
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You know? Yeah, Doctor's appointments, whatever. Intentional connection with your spouse
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is super important. And yes,
obviously if children see a broken marriage,
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it can have a devastating effect on
their lives. And Yeah, my husband
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and I have had to work very, very hard and may be very intentional
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about our marriage. It's not been
easy and marriage is really the hardest ministry
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you will ever encounter. Absolutely,
and and then second to that would be
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your children, and they are our
most important ministry. And, like I
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said before, if we're failing at
those and, as the word teaches,
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if we can't handle our own house, you know, who are we to
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try to be leaders in the House
of God? Yeah, and so that
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that has to be our focus.
Yeah, so, you know, we
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talked about again the culture of death
and mentioned some one twenty seven children are
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blessing from the Lord. I think
you mention about coming from a broken home
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and coming from divorced parents. Your
your husband's parents were divorced. I feel
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like that the the spirit of divorce, just like the no fault divorce sort
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of thing, is a part of
that culture of death. Yes, right,
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this is like the culture that wants
a culture of death. You mean
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you tell me what you think this
means, but to me it's like the
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chipping away of the image of God. Yes, it's the devaluing of human
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beings, which is what we see
at an abortion clinic, but it's also
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what we see nationally when we're talking
about abortion, but also when we're talking
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about the transgender confusion, divorce,
we're talking about you homosexual quote marriage and
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that sort of thing. But define
for me, just give me kind of
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your take on on the culture of
death. And, as you know,
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we're teaching our kids, obviously,
to be in in the word and to
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know the Lord, and that's countercultural
because we live in a culture of death.
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So talk about the culture death and
the influence of that can have on
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kids and then you know how,
maybe you've seen some of your kids overcome
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some of that car but yeah,
well, Satan obviously is going to do
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everything he can and pull out all
the stops to attack really the greatest institution
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ever, yeah, designed by our
creator, and that's the institution of marriage.
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Yeah, he's going to attack the
the one woman, one man family,
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and that is what we are seeing. We're seeing this attack through,
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obviously, oh Berger fell versus hodges, when it was the Supreme Court decision,
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I believe, in two thousand and
fifteen, was a massive, massive
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defeat for the natural family and for
the God's God's design and attention. Before
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that was their marrying, homosexual quote
marriage. That was case. Yes,
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yes, and you know, we
warned, we warned. If we go
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down this road, mark our words, we will be seeing so much more
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evil. It will. It's like
a damn of protection was broken. Yeah,
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and our nation and all manner of
evil is now just flowing out and
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and just taking over our culture and, you know, to the to the
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point that now people can't figure out
if there were a man or a woman.
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We've got two hundred pound men in
the private bathrooms and shower rooms and
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locker rooms of our little girls and
just such depravity. And now pedophilia is
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yeah, honestly, but this isn't
conspiracy theory, this isn't Alex Jones Info,
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wars information. This is now becoming
mainstream, that there is now a
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push for pedophilia in culture. And
to say, you know, what is
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just is just my preference, just
like homosexual. I was born that way.
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I'm born preferring children. This is
actually happening. Yeah, and our
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nation, I mean Sodom and go
more the The Times of Rome and what
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happened to Rome. It was destroyed
and we are no greater. I mean
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we are ripe for catastrophic judgment if
we do not repent of our sin,
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repent of this. You know,
murder that we're allowing to take place in
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our nation and still, you know, really experience a widespread revival, spiritual
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revival in our land. We're in
deep, deep trouble. And so,
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yeah, there's there's obviously a real
attack on on family and we just got
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to make sure, as God's people, that we are being, like you
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said, very intentional about protecting our
family first from the onslaught of the enemy
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and evil. And you know what, one of the ways that really hits
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us right now as parents is through
social media and through Internet and through things
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that your children are able to access. And I just want to say that
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no one would, in the sound
of my voice, should have any child
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on any device in their home that
is not protected by something very, very
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strong that provides not only screening but
accountability for you as parents and for us
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personally. We've always used covenant eyes. Okay, we have had issues and
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in our family we have had struggles. I have caught things, children have
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confessed things to me without being caught. My kids are real, just like
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everybody else is, okay, and
because of that I love Covenant Eyes.
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It is a small fee every month
and it we have like six devices on
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Covenant Eyes and what it does is
if your child or anyone, husband,
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wife, tries to click on something
where Covenant Eyes is installed and it is
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blocked, you will get an email
telling you what was blocked. Yeah,
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and then it allows you to have
that accountability conversation and find out what's going
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on. Why did you try to
click that? You know, and find
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out what's going on in their heart. That parental conversation that needs to happen.
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But seriously, seriously, if you
do not have your computers protected,
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devices phones in your home, this
is absolute negligence as a parent. I
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cannot express this strongly enough, because
who, what kind of parent, would
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allow their children to carry around a
playboy magazine all day and all night in
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their hand? Yeah, that is
what our children are doing. So these
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cell phones that have Internet, that
is what they're doing. When you think
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they're doing school on their computers.
If you don't have your computer protected,
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I know you think your child's an
angel. They're not. Yeah, yeah,
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they're not. Trust me, they're
vulnerable. I appreciate you bring that,
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that subject up, because that is
a it's still still ties into the
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culture of death sort of thing.
The whole Perno pornography epidemic and you know,
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some have said, I think I
agree, that if pronography didn't exist,
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an abortion probably wouldn't exist because,
you know, these young men are
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spurred with with feelings and emotions and
to do things they normally, at certain
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ages, wouldn't be doing when you're
thinking about but these images and all this
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stuff, like sin, always takes
you further than you then you really wanted
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to go, yes, and so
I appreciate you bring that. It's all
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very connected. It's all interconnected and
with the whole sexual revolution sort of thing
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and all of this. You know, it's rooted in sort of a godless
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mentality that God really is deleted from
from society and really has no bearing own
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things, and it has to do
with rebellion, obviously against God for those
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who have that mentality. And then
always manifests itself in attacking the image of
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God attached attacking human being. Pornography
is attack on the image of God,
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worst kind of misogynistic exploitation, you
know. And and to think that the
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radical feminist out there who always throwing
around those terms like misogyny exploitation, you
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know, and they are typically very
pro pornography and call that free speech.
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Yes, very hypocritical, because it
is a terrible type of exploitation. And
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now we have a massive portion,
percentage of the population that is completely addicted,
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yeah, to sex, addicted to
pornography, addicted to sexual anarchy,
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and more and more so. That
pornography is very violent and it is even
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pedophilic in nature, and so much
destruction has come through through not being aggressive
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at shutting that down. But parents, you you can do your part,
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at least until you know why our
children are in your home. Yeah,
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to to train your children, not
just obviously you've got to train them to
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want God. You've got to train
them to want to be used of God
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and to want to have pure hearts
and to want holiness. That's that's a
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massive part of it. But the
truth is you've got to do both.
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You've got to not only train them
to avoid sin and to see the the
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terrible results of sin, you also
need to provide that accountability and because,
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let's just face it, none of
us, if we had been had the
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opportunity to do some of the things
and be exposed as some of the things
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in our youth that children are allowed
to be exposed to today. You know,
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we know that our lives very well
might have been very different. Yeah,
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they are now. I can only
imagine if I had, you know,
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a mini pocket computer that could carry
it out everywhere, whenevers. A
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young PRA ajor who knows a garbage
you know, I was already exposed to
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garbage right now, exposed. I
went after it myself, right man,
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that's just, yeah, that's it's
effortless. Now and again I say parental
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negligence. Yeah, if you are
not making sure that all the devices in
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your home are lockdown sufficiently. Again, it takes energy, it takes effort.
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You cannot be lazy, yeah,
about parenting. Laziness will will end
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up resulting in a lot of Disciplin
pointment for you. Yeah, a lot
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of pain for you. Ultimately,
the energy put in is so worth it.
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Yeah, you know, seeing my
kids be passionate about serving the Lord
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and leading in ministry now and saying
no to evil, it is so worth
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all of the swimming against the current
that I did. Yeah, yeah,
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you know, going with the current, just kind of sitting in the Lazy
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River of life, is the easy
way to do it. But those are
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not the people that we remember in
human history. Who just kind of went
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with the the tide and went with
the currents. You're right, swam against
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it and we need to do that
as parents on sort of a micro level.
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You know, then the Lord can
do I mean, I look at
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the life of a woman like Susanna
Wesley, if you've ever read her life,
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I mean kids. They have like
fourteens, yes, and she raises
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two of the most godly men,
Charles and John Wesley, that we remember
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in history, and cheated some difficult
stuff, you know, and I'm sure
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there was a lot of battles in
the house and a lot of stuff,
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you know, going on behind the
scenes. But we remember somebody like that,
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we remember the impact her kids had
and and I think it gives us
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some fuel for the fire and in
the mundane stuff, because that's really where
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the rubber meets the ready. Mundane
is life. You know, you'll probably
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leave here and change some diapers when
you get home. You still have kids
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and I have one in pull up, some one in pull up. Yeah,
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that's where we're at. To youngest
is three. She's a nighttime pull
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up. So yeah, that's where
we're at. It's sort of it's weird
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not to have a lot of diapers. It is, it's nice, it's
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weird, but it's also it's kind
of sad to you. It won't take
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long, though. You're going to
have a grand bas you never know,
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right. I appreciate you coming and
shared is anything else you want to you
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want to touch on before we wrap
this thing up, I just say,
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going back to what I said earlier
about being faithful in the small things and
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in the mundane things. That should
always be our priority. Yeah, whether
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someone's watching or whether they're not.
What who are we? Yeah, when
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no one is watching. That should
always be our focus and our hearts cry
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should just always be you know,
Lord, I don't deserve anything. You've
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given me salvation and I deserve hell
in the lake of fire, and here
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you are. You've offered me salvation
of all. For me, Jesus,
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you've all from me, Eternity and
Heaven and paradise with you. What can
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I do to serve you? How
can I be used in your kingdom if
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that's us behind the scenes all the
time, even when we're struggling in our
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marriage, even when we're struggling in
a crisis with our children? I promise
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you, God sees that and you
know what you will be rewarded for that.
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You may be rewarded for that in
this life or it may be a
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reward in the next life, but
it does not go on sane and it
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does not go unrewarded, and so
be encouraged with that. Yeah, Amen.
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Amen. Well, we appreciate those
who have joined us and hope this,
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this podcast, was a blessing to
you. Appreciate you, Elizabeth,
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for coming and take it some time
away from your kids and your husband to
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come and do this, this is
podcast with us. Do when are you
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mind? You, Elizabeth, brought
it up earlier the sidewalks for life side
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that we've set up sidewalks the number
four lifecom and that has some articles about
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sidewall counseling and how to get equipped
doing sidewalk councling, Gospel centered sidewalk counseling.
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Really feel like the Gospel is important
to be the focus and the thrust
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of our ministry, to proclaim the
Gospel, and so information about that is
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there. You can connect with me
Charlotte dot cities for Life Dot Org and
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just shoot me an email if you
have suggestions for the podcast subjects you want
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us to cover. We'd love to
cover those and if you want to connect
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with Elizabeth, how they do that. Activist mommycom has everything. This mommycom.
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It's all there. Follow her on
facebook. She puts post out on
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a regular basis and you know they're
doing some the Dragon Queen Story Hour,
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trying to get those things taken out
of the libraries so that that garbage is
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not thrust on unknowing children. So
we appreciate all that you do, Lizabeth,
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and appreciate all those who've listened.
Hope that you're blessed and have good
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rest of your day. Use Mil
use me, give me, give me.
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Will cost me my life, but
these two precious inside