Sept. 3, 2020

How to Respond to Abortion-minded Women with Coronavirus Fears

How to Respond to Abortion-minded Women with Coronavirus Fears

Pregnant mothers come to abortion centers with all types of fears. With the Coronavirus pandemic at hand, more and more look to abortion as a solution to the fears of COVID-19. In this episode, Vicky and Daniel give you some practical and Biblical...


Pregnant mothers come to abortion centers with all types of fears. With the Coronavirus pandemic at hand, more and more look to abortion as a solution to the fears of COVID-19. In this episode, Vicky and Daniel give you some practical and Biblical ways to respond to those fears and bring faith in Jesus into the equation.

 

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Welcome to the 2 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:09.349 Gospel Center per life podcast. You know, there's a lot of fear surrounding 3 00:00:09.390 --> 00:00:12.830 the issue of coronavirus on our world and the women that we minister to on 4 00:00:12.910 --> 00:00:16.030 the sidewalk feel this sphere as well. But how do we bring faith into 5 00:00:16.070 --> 00:00:19.550 the equation and help them to trust the Lord in their situation? Please join 6 00:00:19.629 --> 00:00:31.859 us as we talk about this biblically. I felt show passis touch your use. 7 00:00:35.500 --> 00:00:39.369 Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcasts. Appreciate you guys tuning in 8 00:00:39.530 --> 00:00:43.130 and listening. Appreciate you guys sharing this podcast and our other podcast. Our 9 00:00:43.130 --> 00:00:46.810 last podcast, I think it was a real blessing, was the podcast with 10 00:00:47.009 --> 00:00:51.000 the former abortion clinic escort. That was awesome. Yeah, with Kevin. 11 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:54.280 It was an awesome testimony to see what the Lord did in his life and 12 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:58.039 ultimately what the Lord's doing through him and just being, you know, at 13 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:00.960 one time on that side of the sidewalk and now on this side of the 14 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:07.590 sidewalk on God's side. I believe great perspective. You need perspective absolutely, 15 00:01:07.670 --> 00:01:11.269 so it's just a tremendous blessing to have been able to share that with you 16 00:01:11.310 --> 00:01:14.030 guys. So please, if you hadn't listened to that, check that out, 17 00:01:14.349 --> 00:01:17.510 share that, share this podcast. But let's hop into it. What 18 00:01:17.709 --> 00:01:22.260 subject are we covering today? Well, we bring so many of our subjects 19 00:01:22.579 --> 00:01:26.780 from our experiences on the sidewalk and this is one we definitely have been experiencing. 20 00:01:26.060 --> 00:01:33.890 How to respond to increased fear in abortion determined women during the COVID pandemic. 21 00:01:33.930 --> 00:01:37.010 Yeah, that's that's that's a pretty small title. Maybe we can add 22 00:01:37.010 --> 00:01:41.290 some more to that. Enough, quite enough words to really grab the audience. 23 00:01:41.329 --> 00:01:44.930 Yeah, yeah, it's pretty long title actually and you know, well, 24 00:01:45.170 --> 00:01:47.840 maybe trim it down for the podcast, but for you guys listening, 25 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:49.760 this will give you an idea what we're focusing on, because it is something 26 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:55.519 in the midst of this pandemic that we have faced on a regular basis, 27 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.920 that fear. And the Bible says God has not given us a spirit of 28 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:01.310 fear, but of power, love and a sound mind, and that's but 29 00:02:01.590 --> 00:02:07.310 that was specifically spoken by Paul to Timothy, written by Paul to Timothy. 30 00:02:07.670 --> 00:02:10.389 But we take it as encouragement as believers, and so we're not supposed to 31 00:02:10.389 --> 00:02:15.259 walk in fear as believers, although sometimes we do succumb to fear, but 32 00:02:15.379 --> 00:02:20.219 unbelievers it's kind of the natural band of people just to be afraid when you 33 00:02:20.340 --> 00:02:23.379 got a global pandemic on your hands. And we can debate over whether or 34 00:02:23.379 --> 00:02:28.259 not it's been blown out of proportion or whatever, but the fact is we're 35 00:02:28.259 --> 00:02:31.889 dealing with something and there's a lot of people who don't have their roots deep 36 00:02:32.050 --> 00:02:37.409 into Christ and his truths and the fact that he is our life and all 37 00:02:37.449 --> 00:02:40.409 of that. unregenerate people are afraid and we have to deal with that on 38 00:02:40.490 --> 00:02:46.280 a regular basis. Right and and so what we had noticed in the early 39 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:51.360 months, especially of the pandemic, was that there seemed to be a whole 40 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.199 lot more abortions, maybe double on some of the days. Yeah, and 41 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:59.110 actually did a little bit of research into that and in the article that will 42 00:02:59.110 --> 00:03:06.229 accompany this podcast we give you the reference to this article. But abortion statistics 43 00:03:06.270 --> 00:03:08.949 are difficult to find. Oh, yeah, they are especially current. Yeah, 44 00:03:08.949 --> 00:03:13.580 and even when you find them there sometimes difficult to decipher right how they 45 00:03:14.020 --> 00:03:16.620 apply. Yea, all that sort of thing. That maker Institute is one 46 00:03:16.659 --> 00:03:21.460 of the main places that we often go, but it's a very pro choice. 47 00:03:21.580 --> 00:03:24.979 Sort of the website fairhoods statistic wing pretty much kind of don't know how 48 00:03:25.020 --> 00:03:30.050 much to trust them. Yeah, but this wasn't from Gut mocker. It 49 00:03:30.250 --> 00:03:32.770 was in a USA Today articles, but they give the reference. But anyway, 50 00:03:32.810 --> 00:03:37.530 they said that anecdotal evidence, they don't have exact numbers, but but 51 00:03:37.610 --> 00:03:44.000 they agreed that anecdotal evidence from abortion providers indicates that abortions increased dramatically during the 52 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:50.039 first months of Covid and that is definitely what what we saw and what we 53 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.520 also saw, again, anecdotally. We didn't do research, but that women 54 00:03:53.879 --> 00:04:00.949 seemed less eager to interact with us, yea, and harder hearted, yeah, 55 00:04:00.110 --> 00:04:05.909 and harder to convince to maybe consider a choice other than abortion. Yeah. 56 00:04:06.469 --> 00:04:12.900 Well, we did a podcast some months ago talking about this very subject 57 00:04:12.979 --> 00:04:15.899 of fear and dealing with the spirit of fear that a lot of these women 58 00:04:15.939 --> 00:04:20.980 are under an understanding that spirit of fear, not not using or allowing that 59 00:04:21.220 --> 00:04:25.730 justification just because they're afraid it's okay for them to come to an abortion clinic 60 00:04:25.850 --> 00:04:29.329 and kill their child. Right, but we do need to have an understanding 61 00:04:29.370 --> 00:04:31.009 of the people that were ministering to. So go back and listen to that, 62 00:04:31.129 --> 00:04:33.449 guys, because this is going to be along those same lines, I'm 63 00:04:33.449 --> 00:04:38.329 sure. Yeah, but it's in light of I mean, that was done 64 00:04:38.370 --> 00:04:41.920 before the the pandemic and anything like that. So this is going to be 65 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:45.240 specifically in light of that. Yeah, you know, I've heard it's not 66 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.360 been a couple of weeks ago I had a conversation with the young lady at 67 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:51.720 the abortion center here and one of her major concerns was that her baby, 68 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:57.069 she felt like she was exposed to the coronavirus and that she maybe even had 69 00:04:57.230 --> 00:05:00.269 covid nineteen. Yeah, she was afraid that it might affect her baby. 70 00:05:00.350 --> 00:05:02.990 Is One of the reasons why she was considering an abortion. She didn't want 71 00:05:02.990 --> 00:05:05.629 to have a baby with birth defects. Right, and I've heard that. 72 00:05:05.870 --> 00:05:11.620 I've heard quite frequently that people have lost jobs. Yeah, absolutely, though 73 00:05:11.779 --> 00:05:18.139 schooling situation has added a burden on our entire nation and world, but the 74 00:05:18.899 --> 00:05:26.129 people that are probably most severely affected by that are unwed single MOMS, because 75 00:05:26.129 --> 00:05:30.970 all of a sudden they have to be home with their children to school them 76 00:05:31.329 --> 00:05:34.290 and they can no longer work. Yeah, and they're the only income. 77 00:05:34.329 --> 00:05:39.120 Yeah, so I think so spot to be in. They're very no art 78 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:42.360 issue. The thing, guys, we have to because it's easy for us, 79 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.720 who know that abortion is murdered. No, do this wrong. It's 80 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:49.269 easy for us just to ride off the issues that people are dealing with. 81 00:05:50.149 --> 00:05:53.949 There's a balance, though. There's a balance in that. Yes, we 82 00:05:54.029 --> 00:05:58.709 don't justify there's no situation that a mother is facing that justifies her murdering her 83 00:05:58.750 --> 00:06:00.629 child. Right, we understand that. We know that. If you don't 84 00:06:00.629 --> 00:06:03.339 agree with that, if you disagree with that, then you probably are listening 85 00:06:03.379 --> 00:06:06.339 to the wrong podcast. Or go back and start at the first podcast and 86 00:06:06.420 --> 00:06:11.420 work your way through exact hopefully we'll change your heart on exactly. But that 87 00:06:11.579 --> 00:06:16.100 being said, we don't just right off the issues that the people that were 88 00:06:16.139 --> 00:06:18.730 trying to minister to deal with. We don't just said well, that doesn't 89 00:06:18.730 --> 00:06:21.050 matter, it's not a justification for murder. Yeah, you know, that 90 00:06:21.129 --> 00:06:24.810 doesn't matter. You we can keep on. It does matter. Actually, 91 00:06:25.050 --> 00:06:27.970 it certainly matters enough to them that they're at an abortion clinic. So if 92 00:06:28.009 --> 00:06:30.410 we're going to meet them where they're at and we're going to try to come 93 00:06:30.449 --> 00:06:35.079 in the midst of that crisis and bring Jesus in that crisis, we've got 94 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:39.399 to be willing to accept the fact that these people really feel like it is 95 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:43.240 a crisis in such a way that they're willing to come to an abortion clinic 96 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.389 to try to help minigate that. During this the first few months, especially 97 00:06:46.430 --> 00:06:53.949 if Covid, I think we were seeing more people that really were very conflicted. 98 00:06:53.990 --> 00:06:59.230 Yeah, felt that a there because fear was driving them so strongly, 99 00:06:59.269 --> 00:07:02.579 because of the intensity of the fear with covid they were feeling abortion was their 100 00:07:02.660 --> 00:07:05.779 only choice. But there was conflict. I'd see a lot more women weeping, 101 00:07:05.860 --> 00:07:09.779 a lot more women that would stop and start crying and tell me, 102 00:07:09.980 --> 00:07:13.220 but I have to do it, as opposed to just people barreling in, 103 00:07:13.500 --> 00:07:19.250 giving us the finger and racing in through the door. And statistically, women 104 00:07:19.329 --> 00:07:27.569 who have conflict fair much more poorly following an abortion, in the aftermath of 105 00:07:27.649 --> 00:07:33.800 an abortion. So this is a troubling trend that there were these women who 106 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:38.959 were clearly more conflicted. Again, anecdotal, I don't approve of it, 107 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:45.430 but the research has proof that women who are conflicted don't fare as well follow 108 00:07:45.509 --> 00:07:48.709 in the aftermath of an abortion. Yeah, so what do we do with 109 00:07:48.910 --> 00:07:55.670 all of that? Knowing that we have all facedd here in Charlotte and talked 110 00:07:55.670 --> 00:08:00.699 about it. These women are so frightened because of covid and again we're a 111 00:08:00.819 --> 00:08:05.220 Gospel Focus Ministry, so we go to the Gospel. Yeah, and I 112 00:08:05.339 --> 00:08:09.139 was working through this and and working on the article, I had about five 113 00:08:09.220 --> 00:08:16.410 or six aspects of fear that I thought we could address. Okay, let's 114 00:08:16.490 --> 00:08:22.050 teyone and and along with some scriptural help in addressing that issue. So the 115 00:08:22.129 --> 00:08:28.519 first one uncertainty of the future. That that's a big one that we hear 116 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:33.600 it. They the future is always uncertain, of course, but it's particularly 117 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:39.519 uncertain when you're facing this pandemic that no one seems to know anything about, 118 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:45.590 especially in the early days, all kinds of conflicting facts that we're being so 119 00:08:45.750 --> 00:08:48.669 called facts that we were being given about it. So the first point, 120 00:08:48.710 --> 00:08:56.419 I think, to reassure women or anyone of fear of the future is this 121 00:08:56.620 --> 00:09:01.179 is a constant. Yeah, uncertainty of the few future is a constant, 122 00:09:01.379 --> 00:09:05.940 whether you're facing a pandemic or no pandemic. Yeah, I mean one thing 123 00:09:05.059 --> 00:09:09.330 that certain is that uncertainty you will always be there, and that's that's one 124 00:09:09.370 --> 00:09:13.250 thing. That's a good one. And you know proverbs twenty seven one says 125 00:09:13.330 --> 00:09:16.409 do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may 126 00:09:16.529 --> 00:09:20.210 bring forth. Yeah, God tells us so far and over again. Don't 127 00:09:20.250 --> 00:09:24.759 worry about the future, you don't know if the future is ever going to 128 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:30.360 arrive, right. Yeah, I mean one wise preacher said tomorrow is found 129 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.000 on a fool's calendar. We don't have tomorrow. We need to think about 130 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.600 today. Now, obviously there's a scriptural dynamic that we need to plan for 131 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.070 the future. But when we only think about the future, our worries are 132 00:09:41.070 --> 00:09:45.950 wrapped up in what's going to happen tomorrow, the next day, then we 133 00:09:46.110 --> 00:09:50.830 don't in the present make oftentimes good decisions. Right. Fear is a terrible 134 00:09:50.950 --> 00:09:54.340 driver for decisionmaking. We should not make decisions based on fear. Yeah, 135 00:09:54.740 --> 00:10:00.019 you know another dynamic that that kind of goes hand in hand with this, 136 00:10:00.340 --> 00:10:03.620 and I've talked to a lot of young men, actually, I take it 137 00:10:03.820 --> 00:10:07.210 think of at least two or maybe three recently at the abortion center. Well, 138 00:10:07.289 --> 00:10:09.250 they've said, you know, I don't want to raise a kid in 139 00:10:09.289 --> 00:10:11.690 the midst of all this craziness. And there. So they're talking about the 140 00:10:11.730 --> 00:10:16.649 pandemic, they're talking about the bias of the riot, riots and all this 141 00:10:16.769 --> 00:10:20.090 stuff going this is this crazy world that we've got going on. I mean, 142 00:10:20.129 --> 00:10:24.600 let's let's face it, two thousand and twenty has been rough, insane 143 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.039 so many levels. Yeah, and they're like, I don't want to raise 144 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:33.120 a kid in this crazy world. Now I will respond and maybe you tell 145 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.269 me, maybe on right now here and this podcast, you can rebuke me 146 00:10:37.350 --> 00:10:41.029 and tell me that this I shouldn't say. That's nuts. Right now, 147 00:10:41.190 --> 00:10:43.990 I shouldn't respond like that. But when they say that I want to raise 148 00:10:43.110 --> 00:10:46.830 a kid in this crazy world, it's you know, people were shooting each 149 00:10:46.870 --> 00:10:50.659 other in the streets, there's riots, there's protests, there's a pandemic going 150 00:10:50.700 --> 00:10:52.100 on, and one of the things I respond I'll say, yeah, it's 151 00:10:52.100 --> 00:10:56.659 so bad that people are killing their own children. Yeah, and you're here 152 00:10:56.740 --> 00:10:58.779 to do that. Do you want to be part of the problem or part 153 00:10:58.779 --> 00:11:01.820 of the solution? Yeah, well, you know what, piggybacking off of 154 00:11:01.940 --> 00:11:05.529 that idea, what I was going to suggest as a response to this is 155 00:11:05.610 --> 00:11:11.330 your right. The future is uncertain, very uncertain, and probably increasingly uncertain 156 00:11:11.450 --> 00:11:16.250 with this pandemic, but there is a certainty that if you walk in that 157 00:11:16.289 --> 00:11:20.360 abortion center and you take the life of your child, your child's dead. 158 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.120 Yeah, that's certain. Sure, and and so bumping up their fear of 159 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.919 the uncertainty, which could be bad, could be good, none of us 160 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:33.070 know. Sure, but the certainty that they're going to kill their own baby, 161 00:11:33.509 --> 00:11:37.110 and that's a very bad yeah. So I think that's a practical way 162 00:11:37.149 --> 00:11:41.269 to deal with right. Yeah, helping them understand that out of fear if 163 00:11:41.269 --> 00:11:46.460 they make a rash decision. What certain is that I cheered a couple of 164 00:11:46.500 --> 00:11:50.700 weeks ago or a couple months ago about a young lady who had chosen life 165 00:11:50.700 --> 00:11:54.779 here at the abortion center, who had talked to back and forth for a 166 00:11:54.779 --> 00:11:58.620 little bit and she was talking about this very thing, some of the uncertainties 167 00:11:58.659 --> 00:12:01.529 and some of the things like that, and she even talked about regret and 168 00:12:01.610 --> 00:12:05.610 she said, I know I'll have regrets if I have the abortion and I'm 169 00:12:05.649 --> 00:12:07.610 not sure that I'll have regrets if I have the baby. As it will. 170 00:12:07.649 --> 00:12:11.769 So you have a certainty, you know, you're certain in your mind 171 00:12:11.769 --> 00:12:13.649 you're going to have regrets if you have the abortion and you're not so sure 172 00:12:15.169 --> 00:12:16.799 and you may or may not have regrets if you have that baby. Why 173 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.879 don't you? Why don't you just say, Hey, I'm certain this area 174 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:22.080 and I'm not in this area, so go with the thing that you know. 175 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.960 You have some uncertainty. So will the not. You'll be doubtful with 176 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.639 or not. You'll be regretful if you have that baby. Yeah, and 177 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.429 that wasn't what changed your mind. The just God was doing a lot of 178 00:12:31.470 --> 00:12:37.070 stuff. She ultimately changed her mind and just it was. was tremendous story. 179 00:12:37.350 --> 00:12:41.389 So it was a great way of taking the uncertainty and turning it around 180 00:12:41.549 --> 00:12:43.899 exactly work in the favor of the choice, for for the child. And 181 00:12:45.059 --> 00:12:48.820 that's a great counseling technique. Yeah, so good job there, Daniel. 182 00:12:48.899 --> 00:12:50.940 Well, by the grace of God, of course. Always. So, 183 00:12:52.659 --> 00:12:54.860 no matter what, here's number two. No matter what the future holds, 184 00:12:56.379 --> 00:13:00.210 no matter what, we are to obey God. Yeah, because the choice 185 00:13:00.250 --> 00:13:03.210 to abort your child is rebellion against God. Absolutely, there's no doubt about 186 00:13:03.210 --> 00:13:07.370 that. And and so let's see, I've got a verse for that one. 187 00:13:07.409 --> 00:13:11.250 Okay, come now, you who say today or tomorrow we will go 188 00:13:11.370 --> 00:13:15.039 to such and such a city and spend a year there and engage in business 189 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.480 and make a profit. Yet you do not know what your life will be 190 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.480 like tomorrow. You are just a vapor that appears for a little while and 191 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.039 then vanishes away. Instead, you ought to say, if the Lord Wills, 192 00:13:26.590 --> 00:13:30.710 we will live and also do this or that at but as it is, 193 00:13:30.909 --> 00:13:35.350 you boast in your arrogance all such boasting as evil. Therefore, no 194 00:13:35.470 --> 00:13:39.629 one knows the right thing to do. I'm sorry to one who knows the 195 00:13:39.669 --> 00:13:41.539 right thing to do and does not do it. To him it is sin. 196 00:13:41.700 --> 00:13:46.379 That's James for yeah, thirteen to seventeen. I thought that that was 197 00:13:46.659 --> 00:13:50.220 really good talking about. You don't know what the future is going to bring, 198 00:13:50.779 --> 00:13:52.700 but you do know that you should be following God's will. You should 199 00:13:52.700 --> 00:13:56.490 be doing and you should be saying, as the Lord's will, I will 200 00:13:56.570 --> 00:14:00.690 do this. And if you know what's right and you don't do it, 201 00:14:01.370 --> 00:14:05.289 then it is and it really brings into the equation trusting the Lord. Yes, 202 00:14:05.570 --> 00:14:09.000 it's so important that in all of these conversations that we have, that 203 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:13.399 we bring God into the equation, because he's there anyway. These moms, 204 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.120 even the ones who are atheist, I'm telling your claim to be atheist, 205 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.399 are thinking in some way about God right there, thinking in spiritual terms a 206 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.990 lot of times and they're feeling guilt for even coming to an abortion clinic. 207 00:14:28.070 --> 00:14:30.549 A lot of times they're feeling guilt for making that appointment, all of that. 208 00:14:30.950 --> 00:14:33.710 So we need to remind them God is in this equation and it's really, 209 00:14:35.110 --> 00:14:37.269 you heard me say often, it's a trust issue. Are you going 210 00:14:37.389 --> 00:14:41.220 to trust the Lord in this situation? You're going to trust him with the 211 00:14:41.299 --> 00:14:43.580 future? Are you going to trust abortion? The future is uncertain. Is 212 00:14:43.620 --> 00:14:50.059 Abortion going to make it more certain? Is the futures unsure? It's unsecure 213 00:14:50.740 --> 00:14:54.090 for everyone. We can't secure our own future and all the things that we 214 00:14:54.210 --> 00:14:58.970 do. Are we going to put our security in abortion? Are we going 215 00:14:58.009 --> 00:15:01.409 to put in the Lord? And I think helping these MOMS to understand that 216 00:15:01.529 --> 00:15:05.129 dynamic, that it's really a trust issue, is helpful. Yeah, comes 217 00:15:05.129 --> 00:15:09.960 to this. Yeah, exactly, into really point blank say one is following 218 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:16.200 God, one is not, because oftentimes I don't think they have thought of 219 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:20.080 it in those terms. Yeah, they've rationalized that and made it seem that 220 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.950 it is okay because they're facing this terrible future and poverty or whatever, so 221 00:15:26.070 --> 00:15:31.230 it's okay, yeah, to kill their child. Here's another one. Okay, 222 00:15:31.549 --> 00:15:33.429 God does not call us to a spirit of fear, which is what 223 00:15:33.549 --> 00:15:39.779 you talked about. HMM, but in the midst of calamity, specifically that 224 00:15:39.100 --> 00:15:45.460 we're not called to fear just because struggles have increased, which they have. 225 00:15:45.779 --> 00:15:48.779 There's no doubt my struggles have increased. Yeah, with this pandemic, all 226 00:15:50.090 --> 00:15:54.049 of ours has. I hate wearing the mask. It's very hard to breathe. 227 00:15:54.529 --> 00:15:58.370 But, and I think a the psalm, one of the most wonderful, 228 00:15:58.409 --> 00:16:02.090 wellknown psalms, twenty three four, verse four, really points that out. 229 00:16:02.409 --> 00:16:06.279 Even though I walk through the Valley of the shadow of death, I 230 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.080 will fear no evil. I fear no evil, for you are with me, 231 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:14.440 your rot in your staff, they come for me. So the PSALMIST 232 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.710 is describing really the most fearful thing of all, yeah, the shadow of 233 00:16:18.950 --> 00:16:23.470 death, and he's saying, even though you were in that most fearful of 234 00:16:23.590 --> 00:16:29.669 circumstance, you're not to fear, not to fear evil, because this God 235 00:16:29.789 --> 00:16:34.539 is there and he has the tools necessary to protect us and he will comfort 236 00:16:34.620 --> 00:16:40.860 us. And I think that that is a very positive message to give to 237 00:16:41.019 --> 00:16:45.379 these women who are walking through their own valley of the shadow of death. 238 00:16:45.419 --> 00:16:48.009 Yeah, literally, they are. Yes, and they you know, to 239 00:16:48.129 --> 00:16:53.809 communicate. That takes us just calming down for a second. We're talking to 240 00:16:53.850 --> 00:16:57.570 him mom going into an abortion center, or maybe car side because she's pulled 241 00:16:57.610 --> 00:17:02.120 over to talk to us or she stopped on our way in, to calm 242 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:07.519 down and to really reason with her and to really try as best we can 243 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:12.119 to infuse hope into a hopeless situation, because they are feeling fear, they 244 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:19.309 are feeling hopeless, they are feeling unsunsecure. What brings security? The hope 245 00:17:19.349 --> 00:17:23.509 that God brings. And so us to speak. And again we're not compromising 246 00:17:25.549 --> 00:17:29.190 the truth. We're not saying that abortions just a mistake. It's you know, 247 00:17:29.430 --> 00:17:32.299 it's murder. We can be very plain about that. And we're not 248 00:17:32.539 --> 00:17:37.180 minimizing the fact that they have legitimate fear exactly. We're saying God is there, 249 00:17:37.339 --> 00:17:41.539 but we're saying that there is hope for this hopeless situation. There is 250 00:17:41.660 --> 00:17:45.769 hope for you and for your child and that the unsecurity, the unsurety that 251 00:17:45.849 --> 00:17:51.210 you feel, God knows it and he's made provision for you and for your 252 00:17:51.250 --> 00:17:53.690 child. And again it get goes back to that issue of trust. Will 253 00:17:53.730 --> 00:17:57.880 you trust the Lord he obviously trusted you with this child. He placed it 254 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:03.200 inside out of your womb. Could you trust him? Yeah, could you 255 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:07.000 trust that, even though there's a lot of unsurity with coronavirus and all the 256 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.519 craziness, that God is faithful? Yeah. And many of these women, 257 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:15.230 the vast majority at least that we minister to hear, would, would speak 258 00:18:15.230 --> 00:18:18.630 of the faithfulness of God. They were raised in church. They know what 259 00:18:18.750 --> 00:18:22.390 God's word says. With God's Word is very plain about God. Can Be 260 00:18:22.670 --> 00:18:26.859 trusted that he's good in the midst of bad situations. This psalm itself, 261 00:18:27.259 --> 00:18:30.500 some twenty three, is just evidence of that. David, going through that 262 00:18:30.579 --> 00:18:34.059 Valley of the shadow of death, yeah, and maybe even sharing this this 263 00:18:34.619 --> 00:18:38.460 scripture with mom going into an abortion center when you have time to talk to 264 00:18:38.500 --> 00:18:41.130 her. We've probably all heard that passage. Yeah, right, that's the 265 00:18:41.250 --> 00:18:45.930 most quoted passage at funerals of all debt with that value of the shadow of 266 00:18:45.130 --> 00:18:48.730 death. Right, God is faithful in the yeah. Yeah. And and 267 00:18:49.410 --> 00:18:56.200 the stories of the Bible from Genesis on are the stories of people facing impossible 268 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:03.000 circumstances and God rescuing them. Yeah. So there is plenty of stories that 269 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.400 you can bring from the scripture that can encourage women. Hey, you are 270 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:14.910 not alone. Throughout history people have struggled and have faced really, really heard 271 00:19:14.990 --> 00:19:21.829 circumstances, but when they trusted in God they made it through one way or 272 00:19:21.829 --> 00:19:25.579 another. Maybe it's only that, maybe not in this life but in each 273 00:19:25.740 --> 00:19:30.180 you know, maybe it means in their eternity with God, but he is 274 00:19:30.500 --> 00:19:36.339 there and he is faithful. Yeah, so one of the things that they 275 00:19:36.420 --> 00:19:44.769 speak of often as they drive in is that their life is out of control. 276 00:19:45.329 --> 00:19:51.730 They cannot control particularly the pandemic. They have no control over whether they're 277 00:19:51.730 --> 00:19:56.200 going to get it, whether other people are going to wear a mask or 278 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.880 not wear a mask, whether that even protects them or not. So there's 279 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:06.559 all this loss of control and I think a good principle to remind them of 280 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:12.750 is to take control of what we can be certain. And so the the 281 00:20:14.190 --> 00:20:18.190 the verse that I thought of was second Corinthian seven one. Therefore, having 282 00:20:18.230 --> 00:20:22.700 these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and 283 00:20:22.779 --> 00:20:29.859 spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God, we can be certain that 284 00:20:30.059 --> 00:20:37.130 God has made promises and that we can trust those promises and that we are 285 00:20:37.369 --> 00:20:41.490 role in the midst of that is to perfect holiness. And how in the 286 00:20:41.609 --> 00:20:45.730 fear of God? Yeah, which is the fear of God, following, 287 00:20:47.009 --> 00:20:52.359 obeying, trusting in awe of what, yeah, he can do. Yeah. 288 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:53.519 I mean, if you think about it in one sense, and I 289 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:59.759 believe this is borne out biblically, that which we fear becomes God to us. 290 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:06.150 M and if your fear is, and your main fear is coronavirus, 291 00:21:06.630 --> 00:21:07.589 you think about it. What is it? What is a God? I 292 00:21:07.630 --> 00:21:12.390 say this in a little g terms, a goddess, something you give sacrifices 293 00:21:12.470 --> 00:21:18.700 to. A God is something that you you work to appease and you want 294 00:21:18.779 --> 00:21:22.980 to be reverent of and be careful around, at least in the human mentality. 295 00:21:23.819 --> 00:21:27.019 And people are like that toward the coronavirus. I mean, this thing 296 00:21:27.099 --> 00:21:30.859 has their fear, and I'm I'm not trying to throw people under the bus 297 00:21:32.019 --> 00:21:36.809 that are afraid of this and are cautiously using wisdom and all of that. 298 00:21:36.890 --> 00:21:41.490 That's not what I'm trying to do. But we can't be in constant fear 299 00:21:41.529 --> 00:21:44.930 of this virus or any other thing that's going on in this world, because 300 00:21:44.930 --> 00:21:48.119 it ultimately will become God to us and it consumes our thoughts and it consumes 301 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.640 our heart, energy and all of that. Ultimately, the Bible tells us 302 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.000 we should fear the Lord. We give reverence to him. Yeah, we 303 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.789 defer to him, we don't, and we're forced to do it. And 304 00:22:00.910 --> 00:22:07.430 once sense is to kind of craft our lives around the coronavirus, make sacrifices, 305 00:22:07.509 --> 00:22:10.230 make changes to our lives. You think about it. When you became 306 00:22:10.230 --> 00:22:15.710 a Christian, immediately changes came in your life based on this God that now 307 00:22:15.900 --> 00:22:18.779 you fear, and you were able to make changes and sacrifices in your life, 308 00:22:18.819 --> 00:22:22.700 do things that are sort of abnormal for you before you became a Christian. 309 00:22:23.059 --> 00:22:27.059 Think about how we're doing that as a society now, even as individuals, 310 00:22:29.140 --> 00:22:32.809 where we're crafting our lives and doing things in our lives to try to 311 00:22:32.930 --> 00:22:36.569 appease coronavirus that that we don't yeah, we don't want to mess with that 312 00:22:36.650 --> 00:22:37.650 thing. We don't want to make it angry. Right. You know, 313 00:22:37.809 --> 00:22:41.690 it's the mentality, yeah, that a lot of us are dealing with. 314 00:22:41.009 --> 00:22:45.359 Yeah, and and you know, in taking control of what we are certain, 315 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:49.160 I don't want that them to then think, well, there's certain that 316 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:53.400 abortion is the answer know, what we're certain of is that the six commandment 317 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:57.910 is that shall not murder. Yeah, that abortion violates that commandment of God 318 00:22:59.230 --> 00:23:03.309 and that God is the one ultimately who holds eternity in their hands, not 319 00:23:03.549 --> 00:23:08.549 this virus. It's God will did. He's the one that ultimately, you 320 00:23:08.670 --> 00:23:14.059 know, saves us or doesn't save us from from covid and and saves us 321 00:23:14.099 --> 00:23:18.579 or doesn't save us for for all eternity. So that's who we should like, 322 00:23:18.779 --> 00:23:25.619 you said, fear and we should do what we know he has told 323 00:23:25.660 --> 00:23:27.650 us to do. Yeah, and it certainly is not to kill their child. 324 00:23:29.009 --> 00:23:33.650 Yeah. So how about this next one of faith? This one, 325 00:23:33.690 --> 00:23:37.890 I use a lot it during this covid period. I think I've I've started 326 00:23:37.970 --> 00:23:41.920 using this a lot of faith that is only trusted when things go well is 327 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:48.160 not sustaining faith. Covid, I think, has not created a lack of 328 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:55.319 faith, it's revealed it. Yeah, because it's such an overwhelming circumstance in 329 00:23:55.440 --> 00:24:00.549 so many people's lives and it's so terrifying to so many people. So if 330 00:24:00.670 --> 00:24:07.869 someone claims to have faith, well, will they have faith through this terrifying 331 00:24:07.069 --> 00:24:11.019 circumstance? Right, yeah, and you think about it, God. God 332 00:24:11.059 --> 00:24:18.220 allows things to come into our lives so that we can see really is our 333 00:24:18.299 --> 00:24:21.660 faith genuine? God knows. God knows if our faith is genuine, but 334 00:24:21.700 --> 00:24:23.690 it helps us to judge our own hearts. Yeah, faith is really borne 335 00:24:23.769 --> 00:24:29.690 out where the rubber meets the road. It's not just in some profession of 336 00:24:29.769 --> 00:24:33.890 your mouth that you trust the Lord, but when it really matters, do 337 00:24:33.049 --> 00:24:37.529 you trust the Lord? And I think that can be communicated, and I 338 00:24:37.650 --> 00:24:40.720 have communicated that with young men and young women, and I know you have 339 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:45.119 to in front of an abortion clinic, and it can be communicated in a 340 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:48.240 gracious way, not an accusatory way, because we want to be careful in 341 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.680 this scenario that we're not just coming across as accusatory. But you're not trust 342 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:55.789 in God? You should trust God? No, but you can say things 343 00:24:55.829 --> 00:24:59.789 in such a way and you can ask questions, you know, and I 344 00:24:59.910 --> 00:25:03.390 think that really is helpful as saying, Hey, if you if you claim 345 00:25:03.430 --> 00:25:08.339 to trust God, do you really trust him in situations where it's really hard 346 00:25:08.380 --> 00:25:11.259 to trust him, because that's where your trust is born out. Yeah, 347 00:25:11.740 --> 00:25:15.339 really, if you're going to go in that abortion clinic, are you trust 348 00:25:15.420 --> 00:25:21.299 in God? Often Times you can get these women to admit because they believe 349 00:25:21.970 --> 00:25:25.730 that this baby is precious and that God would never have them take the life 350 00:25:25.769 --> 00:25:27.970 of the baby. But, as I say, sometimes they put their but 351 00:25:29.170 --> 00:25:32.369 in the way. They know what it is to obey God. Yeah, 352 00:25:32.650 --> 00:25:34.329 and we do that, you know, if we're not careful, we do 353 00:25:34.450 --> 00:25:37.519 that on a regular basis. Where will we know what God says in his 354 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:44.039 word? But until we put our butt in the way of God's of obedience 355 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.079 to God's word, and that's what these women are doing right. So if 356 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:49.869 we can help them to understand that and see that, are you really trust 357 00:25:49.910 --> 00:25:52.670 in God? Yeah, trust God. I believe abortion is wrong, but 358 00:25:53.390 --> 00:25:56.549 what don't you see how you're you're kind of putting your butt in the way 359 00:25:56.630 --> 00:26:00.829 of God's Treeth. Maybe not say it that way, but maybe you do. 360 00:26:00.950 --> 00:26:03.829 I don't know. It could be helpful, but just helping them to 361 00:26:03.869 --> 00:26:07.660 understand what trust in God actually looks like, that it doesn't just look like 362 00:26:07.859 --> 00:26:11.619 words, it looks like actions. Yeah, and if you're trusting the Lord 363 00:26:11.660 --> 00:26:14.740 and you believe that he would never have you to have an abortion and that 364 00:26:14.859 --> 00:26:17.980 he's faithful and he's been faithful in the passing and be faithful in the future. 365 00:26:18.420 --> 00:26:22.650 Why not just leave this place right? I also think it's helpful in 366 00:26:22.089 --> 00:26:30.690 that it is exposing really whether they have submitted their lives to God. I 367 00:26:30.009 --> 00:26:36.000 believe that probably most of the women coming to an abortion center probably have not. 368 00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:41.160 Yeah, but most of them, I think, would tell me yes, 369 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.119 they have. In fact, most of them do tell me, yes, 370 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:48.190 I have, right, and when you start asking questions like you suggested, 371 00:26:48.430 --> 00:26:55.109 then they come to a realization. Maybe I'm not following God, maybe 372 00:26:55.150 --> 00:27:00.029 I haven't trusted God, and I think that is really important, because then 373 00:27:00.109 --> 00:27:03.259 you can take them to the next step. Well, when do you intend 374 00:27:03.299 --> 00:27:07.140 to start? Yeah, how about right now? Because right now God is 375 00:27:07.180 --> 00:27:11.940 putting before you an opportunity. That is difficult and if your faith is to 376 00:27:12.180 --> 00:27:17.450 grow, like any muscle, it's it needs to be exercised, and here's 377 00:27:17.450 --> 00:27:21.609 an opportunity for you to exercise that faith and trust him in this, this 378 00:27:21.849 --> 00:27:26.049 hard thing. The the verse that came to me, or the story really, 379 00:27:26.250 --> 00:27:29.970 was the story of David and Goliath. Yeah, in trusting God, 380 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.880 because David had been trained, and this is another principle of spiritual growth, 381 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:38.839 David had been trained in the smaller right things. Right, maybe you'd like 382 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.160 me, the lion in the bear right, guarding his his father's sheet. 383 00:27:44.390 --> 00:27:47.589 Yeah, on the back side of the pasture. Yeah, and that's where. 384 00:27:47.910 --> 00:27:51.789 That was the training ground for David and ultimately lopping off the head of 385 00:27:51.829 --> 00:27:56.150 that giant, defeating the the army of the Philistine and that was a hard 386 00:27:56.269 --> 00:27:59.619 thing. I mean he was facing the whole rest of the army is cowering, 387 00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:03.180 right, and this little boy, yeah, with no armor. Yeah, 388 00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:06.819 and he took that giant down. And how did you do it? 389 00:28:07.180 --> 00:28:10.740 About trusting the Lord, that's right, but not being more afraid of the 390 00:28:10.819 --> 00:28:15.650 giant than he was of the Lord. Yeah, and that's the personally, 391 00:28:15.049 --> 00:28:22.529 from my experience as a young father, imagining having a child when I was 392 00:28:22.809 --> 00:28:26.720 seventeen years old was a Goliath. Yeah, and the anxiety and the fear 393 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:32.440 that came with that was more than I could handle and my own strength. 394 00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:34.599 Yeah, and by God's grace he gave me the ability. Now, I 395 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.720 didn't become a Christian immediately, but I know it was about God's grace that 396 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.269 I embraced fatherhood and did what God had called me to do. Yeah, 397 00:28:41.390 --> 00:28:44.670 and I don't know my wife will say the same. Being a young mother 398 00:28:44.789 --> 00:28:49.109 in that situation. So in many of these women know the story of David 399 00:28:49.109 --> 00:28:52.430 and Goliath. Sti Sharing, like you, like you said earlier, these 400 00:28:52.470 --> 00:28:56.259 Biblical stories of the faithfulness of God and what God can do, can help 401 00:28:56.579 --> 00:29:00.660 these women to relate to these certain truth I think so, because covid is 402 00:29:00.740 --> 00:29:06.180 a giant. That's the word. Giant is such a perfect word right for 403 00:29:06.579 --> 00:29:10.130 so many of the struggles that we face, because they do feel like coming 404 00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:15.289 against a giant. And back to something you said. You said you were 405 00:29:15.369 --> 00:29:21.569 not a believer at the time that you embraced fatherhood. Not yet. But 406 00:29:21.769 --> 00:29:26.759 I believe, I have seen it over and over again that when we walk 407 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:34.880 as though we believed, God helps to increase our faith. For one thing, 408 00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:40.390 we see his goodness. Right, you saw, I'm sure you saw, 409 00:29:40.509 --> 00:29:45.750 the benefits of that precious child. Yeah, and when you see that 410 00:29:45.950 --> 00:29:48.390 and you see, oh, what I almost did, and it begins to 411 00:29:48.509 --> 00:29:53.180 change your thoughts to but look what God, maybe, yeah, prevented me 412 00:29:53.380 --> 00:29:56.579 from doing, and look at the benefit, and I think you do. 413 00:29:56.940 --> 00:30:03.619 When we walk fourth and obedience, even before we are really fully aware of 414 00:30:03.779 --> 00:30:08.410 who were walking towards, I think God so graciously moves us even closer towards 415 00:30:08.450 --> 00:30:11.849 a true saving faith. Yeah, absolutely, God, know that happened in 416 00:30:11.970 --> 00:30:18.609 my life. Yeah, yeah, in a certain sense we have to trust. 417 00:30:19.130 --> 00:30:22.240 Yeah, I don't know how is to articulate this, but we have 418 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.759 to trust the Lord for these women, do you know what I'm saying? 419 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.240 So they've got to take that step of faith and they got to trust the 420 00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.720 Lord. But what I mean by that is we've got a share from our 421 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.150 I guess more than new thing, share from our own testimony, like we've 422 00:30:36.230 --> 00:30:38.950 trusted the Lord and we've seen his faithfulness. So that maybe that's what I'm 423 00:30:38.950 --> 00:30:41.750 trying to say, is we need to talk about what God has done in 424 00:30:41.869 --> 00:30:45.309 our lives to help infuse hope in them, to say, Hey, God 425 00:30:45.390 --> 00:30:48.670 did this for me. That's why we will share my testimony. I know 426 00:30:48.750 --> 00:30:52.420 that's why you'll share what God has done in your life. We share a 427 00:30:52.539 --> 00:30:57.019 testimonies because our testimonies help other people to overcome because we're not special, right. 428 00:30:57.180 --> 00:31:02.380 I don't think I'm some special person that God somehow would move on behalf 429 00:31:02.420 --> 00:31:07.089 of me and nobody else know if God moved on my behalf, and I 430 00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:10.730 know me. I'm not a very not a very good guy. Apart from 431 00:31:10.730 --> 00:31:14.009 Christ. If he would move them my behalf, then he would move on 432 00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:18.049 behalf of these moms these dad's, because he's faithful and he's good and he's 433 00:31:18.170 --> 00:31:22.839 merciful and he's kind. Sharing our testimony is a powerful way to bring God 434 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.720 into the equation, to combat fear in the coronavirus situation, any other situation 435 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:32.440 than we're dealing with. Yeah, because ultimately, the Gospel is the only 436 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:40.150 answer to this terrible future that we're all gazing at right now. The only 437 00:31:40.349 --> 00:31:44.390 answer is that there's a God who loves us, a God who has called 438 00:31:44.470 --> 00:31:48.819 us to obey him no matter what. Yeah, no matter what is surrounding 439 00:31:48.900 --> 00:31:52.900 us, no matter what our circumstances are, situation is, and in fact 440 00:31:52.900 --> 00:32:00.380 that's sort of the last point. Following God and encouraging these women to follow 441 00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:07.289 God despite fear brings great reward. Yeah, it's not just that you follow 442 00:32:07.369 --> 00:32:10.849 God and you know when you die at least you're going to go to heaven. 443 00:32:10.849 --> 00:32:14.809 And Yeah, life is going to be pure hell until they're not right, 444 00:32:14.970 --> 00:32:20.559 but following God brings reward. And so Genesis fifteen one is a great 445 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.440 verse to remind them of this. After these things, the word of the 446 00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:28.880 Lord came to Abram in a vision saying do not fear, Abram, I 447 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:32.509 am a shield to you. Your reward shall be very great. Yeah, 448 00:32:32.910 --> 00:32:37.150 so God was encouraging Abram at that time. He was Abraham, not yet 449 00:32:37.589 --> 00:32:44.380 renamed Abraham, but his his reward was going to be great. And God, 450 00:32:44.579 --> 00:32:47.900 I love that that image. God is a shield to him. Yeah, 451 00:32:49.220 --> 00:32:52.940 so God will protect him. Yeah, God prevents the slings and Arrows 452 00:32:53.700 --> 00:33:00.049 from wounding him. Right, and ultimately it come ms in, because that's 453 00:33:00.089 --> 00:33:02.289 the goal for us, not just, I don't minimize by saying just, 454 00:33:02.609 --> 00:33:07.450 but not just to have this mom choose life for her baby, but ultimately 455 00:33:07.490 --> 00:33:12.450 to see her trust in the Lord, to see her her life given to 456 00:33:12.529 --> 00:33:15.000 him, and then the Lord, because we've seen him do it so many 457 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:21.440 times, the Lord turn that life around and use her and that child for 458 00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:24.119 his glory and for their good. Yeah, it's like when God is glorified 459 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:29.069 through our lives, we read the benefit from that. Now, as you 460 00:33:29.150 --> 00:33:31.589 said earlier, we're not talking all their troubles are going to go away and 461 00:33:31.990 --> 00:33:35.869 immediately seon. As they choose life and they put their trust in Jesus, 462 00:33:35.910 --> 00:33:37.750 they're going to find a great job and get a brand new car and all 463 00:33:37.789 --> 00:33:42.819 this other stuff, but we are talking about just practically the provision that God 464 00:33:43.019 --> 00:33:46.940 brings in the faithfulness of God in these situations. God does promise to provide 465 00:33:47.259 --> 00:33:52.019 for our needs. Yeah, you know, the Bible tells us God will 466 00:33:52.059 --> 00:33:55.809 provide all of our needs according to as riches and glory, not a prosperity. 467 00:33:55.890 --> 00:34:00.609 Preach your message, because it does say needs, not wants. Right, 468 00:34:00.089 --> 00:34:04.289 he's not going to send a BMW necessarily, and I maybe if you 469 00:34:04.410 --> 00:34:07.009 need it he will, but I doubt that he will, because I out 470 00:34:07.049 --> 00:34:10.000 anybody needs that. The point is, though, that God is faithful and 471 00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:15.800 God brings provision. The Devil's a liar and in the devil often times operates 472 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:21.920 in the realm of fear and uses fear to drowned out faith and trust. 473 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.909 And so, as side will counselors is those are ministering to abortion minded women 474 00:34:24.949 --> 00:34:29.630 in the midst of this pandemic, we need to bring faith into the equation. 475 00:34:29.670 --> 00:34:31.469 Yeah, we need to bring the character of God into the equation, 476 00:34:31.550 --> 00:34:36.030 that God is faithful, and we do that, course, by sharing stories 477 00:34:36.070 --> 00:34:38.420 from the from the word of God, like we shared about earlier, also 478 00:34:38.460 --> 00:34:44.500 about sharing testimonies. If you guys have a testimony of God being faithful, 479 00:34:44.619 --> 00:34:46.659 and I'm sure you do, sharing that testimony, whether it has to do 480 00:34:46.780 --> 00:34:52.659 with pregnancy or or anything to do with abortion or coronavirus or anything about what 481 00:34:52.699 --> 00:34:55.650 we talked about. Just talking about the faithfulness of God helps encourage people that 482 00:34:55.769 --> 00:34:59.889 they can trust him. Yeah, and I think we all have a story 483 00:34:59.969 --> 00:35:04.369 of fear in the face of uncertainty, which I think is at the crux 484 00:35:04.449 --> 00:35:10.400 of the coronavirus fears did the uncertainty, and Abraham is actually a perfect story 485 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:15.199 of that, because he was told by God go to a land. I'm 486 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:16.840 not going to tell you what it is. Yeah, but you're going to 487 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.039 go and you'll be the father of many nations. And they're old and his 488 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.469 wife is infertile, right, you know I mean, if that's not like 489 00:35:23.710 --> 00:35:30.510 looking at a very uncertain future and promise and wondering how on Earth could this 490 00:35:30.909 --> 00:35:36.739 possibly be brought about? But Abraham goes. Yeah, and he faces a 491 00:35:36.780 --> 00:35:38.739 lot of struggle. There's a lot of struggle and there's a lot of backsliding 492 00:35:38.780 --> 00:35:44.940 even in his life, but ultimately God's promises proved true and Abraham did indeed 493 00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:50.210 become the father of many nations. Through Isaac and the Israelites, God's people 494 00:35:50.210 --> 00:35:53.809 were finally, ultimately led to the promised land. Yeah, the great reward. 495 00:35:53.849 --> 00:35:58.050 Yeah, and then ultimately Jesus, the Messiah comes through that line. 496 00:35:58.090 --> 00:36:01.449 And, yeah, many are saved around the world who are after the line 497 00:36:01.449 --> 00:36:06.000 of Abraham, which is those who are faithful, those who put their trust 498 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.239 in the Lord. Yeah, so this is awesome to see what the Lord 499 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.800 does, and it's all throughout this podcast we've talked about really two words, 500 00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.670 fear and faith. To know that this coronavirus and again, as we started 501 00:36:17.789 --> 00:36:22.190 out, we need to meet people where they're at, not legitimize their fears, 502 00:36:23.309 --> 00:36:28.070 but understand their fears, that they're afraid of the future. They're afraid 503 00:36:28.110 --> 00:36:31.750 of the coronavirus, they're afraid of maybe what the effects of coronavirus may be 504 00:36:31.900 --> 00:36:36.980 on their baby. But bring faith into the equation that God is trustworthy, 505 00:36:37.139 --> 00:36:39.340 that God will see them through. They'll put their trust in him. Bringing 506 00:36:39.500 --> 00:36:45.659 faith into the equation and trusting in the Lord will help these women to do 507 00:36:45.780 --> 00:36:49.289 the right thing, put their trust in the Lord and babies will be saved. 508 00:36:49.329 --> 00:36:52.929 Yeah. Yeah, and now, in the first few months we were 509 00:36:52.929 --> 00:36:57.409 seeing an uptick in abortions. Frankly, today we saw Mondays, are used 510 00:36:57.409 --> 00:37:00.250 to be a really, really busy day, it hasn't been in we're thinking, 511 00:37:00.289 --> 00:37:04.840 well, in ascent in maybe coronavirus is helping because keeping young people apart 512 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.760 and so there's not as much need, I guess, in their eyes, 513 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:13.280 for an abortion. People aren't becoming pregnant. Maybe I don't know, we're 514 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.429 just another little theory running room out there. But, but, but, 515 00:37:17.349 --> 00:37:22.190 yeah, but ultimately, the the main point is that coronavirus is terrible. 516 00:37:22.309 --> 00:37:27.150 It is causing at least it is causing a great deal of uncertainty and fear 517 00:37:27.630 --> 00:37:31.659 and we are facing that in the women coming. But that doesn't mean that 518 00:37:31.900 --> 00:37:37.219 we don't have an answer. The answer is always the answer. It's Jesus, 519 00:37:37.260 --> 00:37:39.739 yeah, the Gospel, its sharing. The the only hope that they're 520 00:37:39.780 --> 00:37:45.329 really ever, is no matter what you face any man. Yeah, all 521 00:37:45.329 --> 00:37:47.130 right. Well, guys, we appreciate you listening to us. If you 522 00:37:47.250 --> 00:37:51.769 have any subjects you'd like for us to cover along this line, along you 523 00:37:51.929 --> 00:37:57.610 sidewalk counseling, sidewalk out reach, abortion clinic ministry or just abortion in general, 524 00:37:57.730 --> 00:38:00.519 that you would like for us to cover. Shoot those ideas over to 525 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.800 us. If you have guests that maybe you would suggest US reaching out to 526 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.480 or you can connect us with that we can have on the podcast. We'd 527 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.679 love to do that. We do appreciate you guys listening and until next time, 528 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:22.550 God bless. Give me our love for love, give me our love 529 00:38:22.789 --> 00:38:35.420 for gratitude. I know it will cost me my love. No thing's too 530 00:38:35.659 --> 00:38:37.860 precious in some you