How to Respond to Abortion-minded Women with Coronavirus Fears

WEBVTT100:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.799I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Welcome to the200:00:05.879 --> 00:00:09.349Gospel Center per life podcast. Youknow, there's a lot of fear surrounding300:00:09.390 --> 00:00:12.830the issue of coronavirus on our worldand the women that we minister to on400:00:12.910 --> 00:00:16.030the sidewalk feel this sphere as well. But how do we bring faith into500:00:16.070 --> 00:00:19.550the equation and help them to trustthe Lord in their situation? Please join600:00:19.629 --> 00:00:31.859us as we talk about this biblically. I felt show passis touch your use.700:00:35.500 --> 00:00:39.369Welcome to the Gospel Center pro lifepodcasts. Appreciate you guys tuning in800:00:39.530 --> 00:00:43.130and listening. Appreciate you guys sharingthis podcast and our other podcast. Our900:00:43.130 --> 00:00:46.810last podcast, I think it wasa real blessing, was the podcast with1000:00:47.009 --> 00:00:51.000the former abortion clinic escort. Thatwas awesome. Yeah, with Kevin.1100:00:51.159 --> 00:00:54.280It was an awesome testimony to seewhat the Lord did in his life and1200:00:54.320 --> 00:00:58.039ultimately what the Lord's doing through himand just being, you know, at1300:00:58.079 --> 00:01:00.960one time on that side of thesidewalk and now on this side of the1400:01:02.039 --> 00:01:07.590sidewalk on God's side. I believegreat perspective. You need perspective absolutely,1500:01:07.670 --> 00:01:11.269so it's just a tremendous blessing tohave been able to share that with you1600:01:11.310 --> 00:01:14.030guys. So please, if youhadn't listened to that, check that out,1700:01:14.349 --> 00:01:17.510share that, share this podcast.But let's hop into it. What1800:01:17.709 --> 00:01:22.260subject are we covering today? Well, we bring so many of our subjects1900:01:22.579 --> 00:01:26.780from our experiences on the sidewalk andthis is one we definitely have been experiencing.2000:01:26.060 --> 00:01:33.890How to respond to increased fear inabortion determined women during the COVID pandemic.2100:01:33.930 --> 00:01:37.010Yeah, that's that's that's a prettysmall title. Maybe we can add2200:01:37.010 --> 00:01:41.290some more to that. Enough,quite enough words to really grab the audience.2300:01:41.329 --> 00:01:44.930Yeah, yeah, it's pretty longtitle actually and you know, well,2400:01:45.170 --> 00:01:47.840maybe trim it down for the podcast, but for you guys listening,2500:01:48.120 --> 00:01:49.760this will give you an idea whatwe're focusing on, because it is something2600:01:49.799 --> 00:01:55.519in the midst of this pandemic thatwe have faced on a regular basis,2700:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.920that fear. And the Bible saysGod has not given us a spirit of2800:02:00.000 --> 00:02:01.310fear, but of power, loveand a sound mind, and that's but2900:02:01.590 --> 00:02:07.310that was specifically spoken by Paul toTimothy, written by Paul to Timothy.3000:02:07.670 --> 00:02:10.389But we take it as encouragement asbelievers, and so we're not supposed to3100:02:10.389 --> 00:02:15.259walk in fear as believers, althoughsometimes we do succumb to fear, but3200:02:15.379 --> 00:02:20.219unbelievers it's kind of the natural bandof people just to be afraid when you3300:02:20.340 --> 00:02:23.379got a global pandemic on your hands. And we can debate over whether or3400:02:23.379 --> 00:02:28.259not it's been blown out of proportionor whatever, but the fact is we're3500:02:28.259 --> 00:02:31.889dealing with something and there's a lotof people who don't have their roots deep3600:02:32.050 --> 00:02:37.409into Christ and his truths and thefact that he is our life and all3700:02:37.449 --> 00:02:40.409of that. unregenerate people are afraidand we have to deal with that on3800:02:40.490 --> 00:02:46.280a regular basis. Right and andso what we had noticed in the early3900:02:46.400 --> 00:02:51.360months, especially of the pandemic,was that there seemed to be a whole4000:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.199lot more abortions, maybe double onsome of the days. Yeah, and4100:02:54.280 --> 00:02:59.110actually did a little bit of researchinto that and in the article that will4200:02:59.110 --> 00:03:06.229accompany this podcast we give you thereference to this article. But abortion statistics4300:03:06.270 --> 00:03:08.949are difficult to find. Oh,yeah, they are especially current. Yeah,4400:03:08.949 --> 00:03:13.580and even when you find them theresometimes difficult to decipher right how they4500:03:14.020 --> 00:03:16.620apply. Yea, all that sortof thing. That maker Institute is one4600:03:16.659 --> 00:03:21.460of the main places that we oftengo, but it's a very pro choice.4700:03:21.580 --> 00:03:24.979Sort of the website fairhoods statistic wingpretty much kind of don't know how4800:03:25.020 --> 00:03:30.050much to trust them. Yeah,but this wasn't from Gut mocker. It4900:03:30.250 --> 00:03:32.770was in a USA Today articles,but they give the reference. But anyway,5000:03:32.810 --> 00:03:37.530they said that anecdotal evidence, theydon't have exact numbers, but but5100:03:37.610 --> 00:03:44.000they agreed that anecdotal evidence from abortionproviders indicates that abortions increased dramatically during the5200:03:44.319 --> 00:03:50.039first months of Covid and that isdefinitely what what we saw and what we5300:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.520also saw, again, anecdotally.We didn't do research, but that women5400:03:53.879 --> 00:04:00.949seemed less eager to interact with us, yea, and harder hearted, yeah,5500:04:00.110 --> 00:04:05.909and harder to convince to maybe considera choice other than abortion. Yeah.5600:04:06.469 --> 00:04:12.900Well, we did a podcast somemonths ago talking about this very subject5700:04:12.979 --> 00:04:15.899of fear and dealing with the spiritof fear that a lot of these women5800:04:15.939 --> 00:04:20.980are under an understanding that spirit offear, not not using or allowing that5900:04:21.220 --> 00:04:25.730justification just because they're afraid it's okayfor them to come to an abortion clinic6000:04:25.850 --> 00:04:29.329and kill their child. Right,but we do need to have an understanding6100:04:29.370 --> 00:04:31.009of the people that were ministering to. So go back and listen to that,6200:04:31.129 --> 00:04:33.449guys, because this is going tobe along those same lines, I'm6300:04:33.449 --> 00:04:38.329sure. Yeah, but it's inlight of I mean, that was done6400:04:38.370 --> 00:04:41.920before the the pandemic and anything likethat. So this is going to be6500:04:42.040 --> 00:04:45.240specifically in light of that. Yeah, you know, I've heard it's not6600:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.360been a couple of weeks ago Ihad a conversation with the young lady at6700:04:47.360 --> 00:04:51.720the abortion center here and one ofher major concerns was that her baby,6800:04:51.839 --> 00:04:57.069she felt like she was exposed tothe coronavirus and that she maybe even had6900:04:57.230 --> 00:05:00.269covid nineteen. Yeah, she wasafraid that it might affect her baby.7000:05:00.350 --> 00:05:02.990Is One of the reasons why shewas considering an abortion. She didn't want7100:05:02.990 --> 00:05:05.629to have a baby with birth defects. Right, and I've heard that.7200:05:05.870 --> 00:05:11.620I've heard quite frequently that people havelost jobs. Yeah, absolutely, though7300:05:11.779 --> 00:05:18.139schooling situation has added a burden onour entire nation and world, but the7400:05:18.899 --> 00:05:26.129people that are probably most severely affectedby that are unwed single MOMS, because7500:05:26.129 --> 00:05:30.970all of a sudden they have tobe home with their children to school them7600:05:31.329 --> 00:05:34.290and they can no longer work.Yeah, and they're the only income.7700:05:34.329 --> 00:05:39.120Yeah, so I think so spotto be in. They're very no art7800:05:39.120 --> 00:05:42.360issue. The thing, guys,we have to because it's easy for us,7900:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.720who know that abortion is murdered.No, do this wrong. It's8000:05:46.800 --> 00:05:49.269easy for us just to ride offthe issues that people are dealing with.8100:05:50.149 --> 00:05:53.949There's a balance, though. There'sa balance in that. Yes, we8200:05:54.029 --> 00:05:58.709don't justify there's no situation that amother is facing that justifies her murdering her8300:05:58.750 --> 00:06:00.629child. Right, we understand that. We know that. If you don't8400:06:00.629 --> 00:06:03.339agree with that, if you disagreewith that, then you probably are listening8500:06:03.379 --> 00:06:06.339to the wrong podcast. Or goback and start at the first podcast and8600:06:06.420 --> 00:06:11.420work your way through exact hopefully we'llchange your heart on exactly. But that8700:06:11.579 --> 00:06:16.100being said, we don't just rightoff the issues that the people that were8800:06:16.139 --> 00:06:18.730trying to minister to deal with.We don't just said well, that doesn't8900:06:18.730 --> 00:06:21.050matter, it's not a justification formurder. Yeah, you know, that9000:06:21.129 --> 00:06:24.810doesn't matter. You we can keepon. It does matter. Actually,9100:06:25.050 --> 00:06:27.970it certainly matters enough to them thatthey're at an abortion clinic. So if9200:06:28.009 --> 00:06:30.410we're going to meet them where they'reat and we're going to try to come9300:06:30.449 --> 00:06:35.079in the midst of that crisis andbring Jesus in that crisis, we've got9400:06:35.079 --> 00:06:39.399to be willing to accept the factthat these people really feel like it is9500:06:39.519 --> 00:06:43.240a crisis in such a way thatthey're willing to come to an abortion clinic9600:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.389to try to help minigate that.During this the first few months, especially9700:06:46.430 --> 00:06:53.949if Covid, I think we wereseeing more people that really were very conflicted.9800:06:53.990 --> 00:06:59.230Yeah, felt that a there becausefear was driving them so strongly,9900:06:59.269 --> 00:07:02.579because of the intensity of the fearwith covid they were feeling abortion was their10000:07:02.660 --> 00:07:05.779only choice. But there was conflict. I'd see a lot more women weeping,10100:07:05.860 --> 00:07:09.779a lot more women that would stopand start crying and tell me,10200:07:09.980 --> 00:07:13.220but I have to do it,as opposed to just people barreling in,10300:07:13.500 --> 00:07:19.250giving us the finger and racing inthrough the door. And statistically, women10400:07:19.329 --> 00:07:27.569who have conflict fair much more poorlyfollowing an abortion, in the aftermath of10500:07:27.649 --> 00:07:33.800an abortion. So this is atroubling trend that there were these women who10600:07:33.800 --> 00:07:38.959were clearly more conflicted. Again,anecdotal, I don't approve of it,10700:07:39.720 --> 00:07:45.430but the research has proof that womenwho are conflicted don't fare as well follow10800:07:45.509 --> 00:07:48.709in the aftermath of an abortion.Yeah, so what do we do with10900:07:48.910 --> 00:07:55.670all of that? Knowing that wehave all facedd here in Charlotte and talked11000:07:55.670 --> 00:08:00.699about it. These women are sofrightened because of covid and again we're a11100:08:00.819 --> 00:08:05.220Gospel Focus Ministry, so we goto the Gospel. Yeah, and I11200:08:05.339 --> 00:08:09.139was working through this and and workingon the article, I had about five11300:08:09.220 --> 00:08:16.410or six aspects of fear that Ithought we could address. Okay, let's11400:08:16.490 --> 00:08:22.050teyone and and along with some scripturalhelp in addressing that issue. So the11500:08:22.129 --> 00:08:28.519first one uncertainty of the future.That that's a big one that we hear11600:08:28.040 --> 00:08:33.600it. They the future is alwaysuncertain, of course, but it's particularly11700:08:33.679 --> 00:08:39.519uncertain when you're facing this pandemic thatno one seems to know anything about,11800:08:39.799 --> 00:08:45.590especially in the early days, allkinds of conflicting facts that we're being so11900:08:45.750 --> 00:08:48.669called facts that we were being givenabout it. So the first point,12000:08:48.710 --> 00:08:56.419I think, to reassure women oranyone of fear of the future is this12100:08:56.620 --> 00:09:01.179is a constant. Yeah, uncertaintyof the few future is a constant,12200:09:01.379 --> 00:09:05.940whether you're facing a pandemic or nopandemic. Yeah, I mean one thing12300:09:05.059 --> 00:09:09.330that certain is that uncertainty you willalways be there, and that's that's one12400:09:09.370 --> 00:09:13.250thing. That's a good one.And you know proverbs twenty seven one says12500:09:13.330 --> 00:09:16.409do not boast about tomorrow, foryou do not know what a day may12600:09:16.529 --> 00:09:20.210bring forth. Yeah, God tellsus so far and over again. Don't12700:09:20.250 --> 00:09:24.759worry about the future, you don'tknow if the future is ever going to12800:09:26.039 --> 00:09:30.360arrive, right. Yeah, Imean one wise preacher said tomorrow is found12900:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.000on a fool's calendar. We don'thave tomorrow. We need to think about13000:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.600today. Now, obviously there's ascriptural dynamic that we need to plan for13100:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.070the future. But when we onlythink about the future, our worries are13200:09:41.070 --> 00:09:45.950wrapped up in what's going to happentomorrow, the next day, then we13300:09:46.110 --> 00:09:50.830don't in the present make oftentimes gooddecisions. Right. Fear is a terrible13400:09:50.950 --> 00:09:54.340driver for decisionmaking. We should notmake decisions based on fear. Yeah,13500:09:54.740 --> 00:10:00.019you know another dynamic that that kindof goes hand in hand with this,13600:10:00.340 --> 00:10:03.620and I've talked to a lot ofyoung men, actually, I take it13700:10:03.820 --> 00:10:07.210think of at least two or maybethree recently at the abortion center. Well,13800:10:07.289 --> 00:10:09.250they've said, you know, Idon't want to raise a kid in13900:10:09.289 --> 00:10:11.690the midst of all this craziness.And there. So they're talking about the14000:10:11.730 --> 00:10:16.649pandemic, they're talking about the biasof the riot, riots and all this14100:10:16.769 --> 00:10:20.090stuff going this is this crazy worldthat we've got going on. I mean,14200:10:20.129 --> 00:10:24.600let's let's face it, two thousandand twenty has been rough, insane14300:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.039so many levels. Yeah, andthey're like, I don't want to raise14400:10:28.039 --> 00:10:33.120a kid in this crazy world.Now I will respond and maybe you tell14500:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.269me, maybe on right now hereand this podcast, you can rebuke me14600:10:37.350 --> 00:10:41.029and tell me that this I shouldn'tsay. That's nuts. Right now,14700:10:41.190 --> 00:10:43.990I shouldn't respond like that. Butwhen they say that I want to raise14800:10:43.110 --> 00:10:46.830a kid in this crazy world,it's you know, people were shooting each14900:10:46.870 --> 00:10:50.659other in the streets, there's riots, there's protests, there's a pandemic going15000:10:50.700 --> 00:10:52.100on, and one of the thingsI respond I'll say, yeah, it's15100:10:52.100 --> 00:10:56.659so bad that people are killing theirown children. Yeah, and you're here15200:10:56.740 --> 00:10:58.779to do that. Do you wantto be part of the problem or part15300:10:58.779 --> 00:11:01.820of the solution? Yeah, well, you know what, piggybacking off of15400:11:01.940 --> 00:11:05.529that idea, what I was goingto suggest as a response to this is15500:11:05.610 --> 00:11:11.330your right. The future is uncertain, very uncertain, and probably increasingly uncertain15600:11:11.450 --> 00:11:16.250with this pandemic, but there isa certainty that if you walk in that15700:11:16.289 --> 00:11:20.360abortion center and you take the lifeof your child, your child's dead.15800:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.120Yeah, that's certain. Sure,and and so bumping up their fear of15900:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.919the uncertainty, which could be bad, could be good, none of us16000:11:28.039 --> 00:11:33.070know. Sure, but the certaintythat they're going to kill their own baby,16100:11:33.509 --> 00:11:37.110and that's a very bad yeah.So I think that's a practical way16200:11:37.149 --> 00:11:41.269to deal with right. Yeah,helping them understand that out of fear if16300:11:41.269 --> 00:11:46.460they make a rash decision. Whatcertain is that I cheered a couple of16400:11:46.500 --> 00:11:50.700weeks ago or a couple months agoabout a young lady who had chosen life16500:11:50.700 --> 00:11:54.779here at the abortion center, whohad talked to back and forth for a16600:11:54.779 --> 00:11:58.620little bit and she was talking aboutthis very thing, some of the uncertainties16700:11:58.659 --> 00:12:01.529and some of the things like that, and she even talked about regret and16800:12:01.610 --> 00:12:05.610she said, I know I'll haveregrets if I have the abortion and I'm16900:12:05.649 --> 00:12:07.610not sure that I'll have regrets ifI have the baby. As it will.17000:12:07.649 --> 00:12:11.769So you have a certainty, youknow, you're certain in your mind17100:12:11.769 --> 00:12:13.649you're going to have regrets if youhave the abortion and you're not so sure17200:12:15.169 --> 00:12:16.799and you may or may not haveregrets if you have that baby. Why17300:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.879don't you? Why don't you justsay, Hey, I'm certain this area17400:12:20.919 --> 00:12:22.080and I'm not in this area,so go with the thing that you know.17500:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.960You have some uncertainty. So willthe not. You'll be doubtful with17600:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.639or not. You'll be regretful ifyou have that baby. Yeah, and17700:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.429that wasn't what changed your mind.The just God was doing a lot of17800:12:31.470 --> 00:12:37.070stuff. She ultimately changed her mindand just it was. was tremendous story.17900:12:37.350 --> 00:12:41.389So it was a great way oftaking the uncertainty and turning it around18000:12:41.549 --> 00:12:43.899exactly work in the favor of thechoice, for for the child. And18100:12:45.059 --> 00:12:48.820that's a great counseling technique. Yeah, so good job there, Daniel.18200:12:48.899 --> 00:12:50.940Well, by the grace of God, of course. Always. So,18300:12:52.659 --> 00:12:54.860no matter what, here's number two. No matter what the future holds,18400:12:56.379 --> 00:13:00.210no matter what, we are toobey God. Yeah, because the choice18500:13:00.250 --> 00:13:03.210to abort your child is rebellion againstGod. Absolutely, there's no doubt about18600:13:03.210 --> 00:13:07.370that. And and so let's see, I've got a verse for that one.18700:13:07.409 --> 00:13:11.250Okay, come now, you whosay today or tomorrow we will go18800:13:11.370 --> 00:13:15.039to such and such a city andspend a year there and engage in business18900:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.480and make a profit. Yet youdo not know what your life will be19000:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.480like tomorrow. You are just avapor that appears for a little while and19100:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.039then vanishes away. Instead, youought to say, if the Lord Wills,19200:13:26.590 --> 00:13:30.710we will live and also do thisor that at but as it is,19300:13:30.909 --> 00:13:35.350you boast in your arrogance all suchboasting as evil. Therefore, no19400:13:35.470 --> 00:13:39.629one knows the right thing to do. I'm sorry to one who knows the19500:13:39.669 --> 00:13:41.539right thing to do and does notdo it. To him it is sin.19600:13:41.700 --> 00:13:46.379That's James for yeah, thirteen toseventeen. I thought that that was19700:13:46.659 --> 00:13:50.220really good talking about. You don'tknow what the future is going to bring,19800:13:50.779 --> 00:13:52.700but you do know that you shouldbe following God's will. You should19900:13:52.700 --> 00:13:56.490be doing and you should be saying, as the Lord's will, I will20000:13:56.570 --> 00:14:00.690do this. And if you knowwhat's right and you don't do it,20100:14:01.370 --> 00:14:05.289then it is and it really bringsinto the equation trusting the Lord. Yes,20200:14:05.570 --> 00:14:09.000it's so important that in all ofthese conversations that we have, that20300:14:09.080 --> 00:14:13.399we bring God into the equation,because he's there anyway. These moms,20400:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.120even the ones who are atheist,I'm telling your claim to be atheist,20500:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.399are thinking in some way about Godright there, thinking in spiritual terms a20600:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.990lot of times and they're feeling guiltfor even coming to an abortion clinic.20700:14:28.070 --> 00:14:30.549A lot of times they're feeling guiltfor making that appointment, all of that.20800:14:30.950 --> 00:14:33.710So we need to remind them Godis in this equation and it's really,20900:14:35.110 --> 00:14:37.269you heard me say often, it'sa trust issue. Are you going21000:14:37.389 --> 00:14:41.220to trust the Lord in this situation? You're going to trust him with the21100:14:41.299 --> 00:14:43.580future? Are you going to trustabortion? The future is uncertain. Is21200:14:43.620 --> 00:14:50.059Abortion going to make it more certain? Is the futures unsure? It's unsecure21300:14:50.740 --> 00:14:54.090for everyone. We can't secure ourown future and all the things that we21400:14:54.210 --> 00:14:58.970do. Are we going to putour security in abortion? Are we going21500:14:58.009 --> 00:15:01.409to put in the Lord? AndI think helping these MOMS to understand that21600:15:01.529 --> 00:15:05.129dynamic, that it's really a trustissue, is helpful. Yeah, comes21700:15:05.129 --> 00:15:09.960to this. Yeah, exactly,into really point blank say one is following21800:15:11.000 --> 00:15:16.200God, one is not, becauseoftentimes I don't think they have thought of21900:15:16.240 --> 00:15:20.080it in those terms. Yeah,they've rationalized that and made it seem that22000:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.950it is okay because they're facing thisterrible future and poverty or whatever, so22100:15:26.070 --> 00:15:31.230it's okay, yeah, to killtheir child. Here's another one. Okay,22200:15:31.549 --> 00:15:33.429God does not call us to aspirit of fear, which is what22300:15:33.549 --> 00:15:39.779you talked about. HMM, butin the midst of calamity, specifically that22400:15:39.100 --> 00:15:45.460we're not called to fear just becausestruggles have increased, which they have.22500:15:45.779 --> 00:15:48.779There's no doubt my struggles have increased. Yeah, with this pandemic, all22600:15:50.090 --> 00:15:54.049of ours has. I hate wearingthe mask. It's very hard to breathe.22700:15:54.529 --> 00:15:58.370But, and I think a thepsalm, one of the most wonderful,22800:15:58.409 --> 00:16:02.090wellknown psalms, twenty three four,verse four, really points that out.22900:16:02.409 --> 00:16:06.279Even though I walk through the Valleyof the shadow of death, I23000:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.080will fear no evil. I fearno evil, for you are with me,23100:16:11.240 --> 00:16:14.440your rot in your staff, theycome for me. So the PSALMIST23200:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.710is describing really the most fearful thingof all, yeah, the shadow of23300:16:18.950 --> 00:16:23.470death, and he's saying, eventhough you were in that most fearful of23400:16:23.590 --> 00:16:29.669circumstance, you're not to fear,not to fear evil, because this God23500:16:29.789 --> 00:16:34.539is there and he has the toolsnecessary to protect us and he will comfort23600:16:34.620 --> 00:16:40.860us. And I think that thatis a very positive message to give to23700:16:41.019 --> 00:16:45.379these women who are walking through theirown valley of the shadow of death.23800:16:45.419 --> 00:16:48.009Yeah, literally, they are.Yes, and they you know, to23900:16:48.129 --> 00:16:53.809communicate. That takes us just calmingdown for a second. We're talking to24000:16:53.850 --> 00:16:57.570him mom going into an abortion center, or maybe car side because she's pulled24100:16:57.610 --> 00:17:02.120over to talk to us or shestopped on our way in, to calm24200:17:02.240 --> 00:17:07.519down and to really reason with herand to really try as best we can24300:17:07.720 --> 00:17:12.119to infuse hope into a hopeless situation, because they are feeling fear, they24400:17:12.160 --> 00:17:19.309are feeling hopeless, they are feelingunsunsecure. What brings security? The hope24500:17:19.349 --> 00:17:23.509that God brings. And so usto speak. And again we're not compromising24600:17:25.549 --> 00:17:29.190the truth. We're not saying thatabortions just a mistake. It's you know,24700:17:29.430 --> 00:17:32.299it's murder. We can be veryplain about that. And we're not24800:17:32.539 --> 00:17:37.180minimizing the fact that they have legitimatefear exactly. We're saying God is there,24900:17:37.339 --> 00:17:41.539but we're saying that there is hopefor this hopeless situation. There is25000:17:41.660 --> 00:17:45.769hope for you and for your childand that the unsecurity, the unsurety that25100:17:45.849 --> 00:17:51.210you feel, God knows it andhe's made provision for you and for your25200:17:51.250 --> 00:17:53.690child. And again it get goesback to that issue of trust. Will25300:17:53.730 --> 00:17:57.880you trust the Lord he obviously trustedyou with this child. He placed it25400:17:57.880 --> 00:18:03.200inside out of your womb. Couldyou trust him? Yeah, could you25500:18:03.319 --> 00:18:07.000trust that, even though there's alot of unsurity with coronavirus and all the25600:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.519craziness, that God is faithful?Yeah. And many of these women,25700:18:11.200 --> 00:18:15.230the vast majority at least that weminister to hear, would, would speak25800:18:15.230 --> 00:18:18.630of the faithfulness of God. Theywere raised in church. They know what25900:18:18.750 --> 00:18:22.390God's word says. With God's Wordis very plain about God. Can Be26000:18:22.670 --> 00:18:26.859trusted that he's good in the midstof bad situations. This psalm itself,26100:18:27.259 --> 00:18:30.500some twenty three, is just evidenceof that. David, going through that26200:18:30.579 --> 00:18:34.059Valley of the shadow of death,yeah, and maybe even sharing this this26300:18:34.619 --> 00:18:38.460scripture with mom going into an abortioncenter when you have time to talk to26400:18:38.500 --> 00:18:41.130her. We've probably all heard thatpassage. Yeah, right, that's the26500:18:41.250 --> 00:18:45.930most quoted passage at funerals of alldebt with that value of the shadow of26600:18:45.130 --> 00:18:48.730death. Right, God is faithfulin the yeah. Yeah. And and26700:18:49.410 --> 00:18:56.200the stories of the Bible from Genesison are the stories of people facing impossible26800:18:56.319 --> 00:19:03.000circumstances and God rescuing them. Yeah. So there is plenty of stories that26900:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.400you can bring from the scripture thatcan encourage women. Hey, you are27000:19:07.599 --> 00:19:14.910not alone. Throughout history people havestruggled and have faced really, really heard27100:19:14.990 --> 00:19:21.829circumstances, but when they trusted inGod they made it through one way or27200:19:21.829 --> 00:19:25.579another. Maybe it's only that,maybe not in this life but in each27300:19:25.740 --> 00:19:30.180you know, maybe it means intheir eternity with God, but he is27400:19:30.500 --> 00:19:36.339there and he is faithful. Yeah, so one of the things that they27500:19:36.420 --> 00:19:44.769speak of often as they drive inis that their life is out of control.27600:19:45.329 --> 00:19:51.730They cannot control particularly the pandemic.They have no control over whether they're27700:19:51.730 --> 00:19:56.200going to get it, whether otherpeople are going to wear a mask or27800:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.880not wear a mask, whether thateven protects them or not. So there's27900:19:59.920 --> 00:20:06.559all this loss of control and Ithink a good principle to remind them of28000:20:07.039 --> 00:20:12.750is to take control of what wecan be certain. And so the the28100:20:14.190 --> 00:20:18.190the verse that I thought of wassecond Corinthian seven one. Therefore, having28200:20:18.230 --> 00:20:22.700these promises, beloved, let uscleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and28300:20:22.779 --> 00:20:29.859spirit, perfecting holiness in the fearof God, we can be certain that28400:20:30.059 --> 00:20:37.130God has made promises and that wecan trust those promises and that we are28500:20:37.369 --> 00:20:41.490role in the midst of that isto perfect holiness. And how in the28600:20:41.609 --> 00:20:45.730fear of God? Yeah, whichis the fear of God, following,28700:20:47.009 --> 00:20:52.359obeying, trusting in awe of what, yeah, he can do. Yeah.28800:20:52.400 --> 00:20:53.519I mean, if you think aboutit in one sense, and I28900:20:53.599 --> 00:20:59.759believe this is borne out biblically,that which we fear becomes God to us.29000:20:59.799 --> 00:21:06.150M and if your fear is,and your main fear is coronavirus,29100:21:06.630 --> 00:21:07.589you think about it. What isit? What is a God? I29200:21:07.630 --> 00:21:12.390say this in a little g terms, a goddess, something you give sacrifices29300:21:12.470 --> 00:21:18.700to. A God is something thatyou you work to appease and you want29400:21:18.779 --> 00:21:22.980to be reverent of and be carefularound, at least in the human mentality.29500:21:23.819 --> 00:21:27.019And people are like that toward thecoronavirus. I mean, this thing29600:21:27.099 --> 00:21:30.859has their fear, and I'm I'mnot trying to throw people under the bus29700:21:32.019 --> 00:21:36.809that are afraid of this and arecautiously using wisdom and all of that.29800:21:36.890 --> 00:21:41.490That's not what I'm trying to do. But we can't be in constant fear29900:21:41.529 --> 00:21:44.930of this virus or any other thingthat's going on in this world, because30000:21:44.930 --> 00:21:48.119it ultimately will become God to usand it consumes our thoughts and it consumes30100:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.640our heart, energy and all ofthat. Ultimately, the Bible tells us30200:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.000we should fear the Lord. Wegive reverence to him. Yeah, we30300:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.789defer to him, we don't,and we're forced to do it. And30400:22:00.910 --> 00:22:07.430once sense is to kind of craftour lives around the coronavirus, make sacrifices,30500:22:07.509 --> 00:22:10.230make changes to our lives. Youthink about it. When you became30600:22:10.230 --> 00:22:15.710a Christian, immediately changes came inyour life based on this God that now30700:22:15.900 --> 00:22:18.779you fear, and you were ableto make changes and sacrifices in your life,30800:22:18.819 --> 00:22:22.700do things that are sort of abnormalfor you before you became a Christian.30900:22:23.059 --> 00:22:27.059Think about how we're doing that asa society now, even as individuals,31000:22:29.140 --> 00:22:32.809where we're crafting our lives and doingthings in our lives to try to31100:22:32.930 --> 00:22:36.569appease coronavirus that that we don't yeah, we don't want to mess with that31200:22:36.650 --> 00:22:37.650thing. We don't want to makeit angry. Right. You know,31300:22:37.809 --> 00:22:41.690it's the mentality, yeah, thata lot of us are dealing with.31400:22:41.009 --> 00:22:45.359Yeah, and and you know,in taking control of what we are certain,31500:22:45.839 --> 00:22:49.160I don't want that them to thenthink, well, there's certain that31600:22:49.200 --> 00:22:53.400abortion is the answer know, whatwe're certain of is that the six commandment31700:22:53.599 --> 00:22:57.910is that shall not murder. Yeah, that abortion violates that commandment of God31800:22:59.230 --> 00:23:03.309and that God is the one ultimatelywho holds eternity in their hands, not31900:23:03.549 --> 00:23:08.549this virus. It's God will did. He's the one that ultimately, you32000:23:08.670 --> 00:23:14.059know, saves us or doesn't saveus from from covid and and saves us32100:23:14.099 --> 00:23:18.579or doesn't save us for for alleternity. So that's who we should like,32200:23:18.779 --> 00:23:25.619you said, fear and we shoulddo what we know he has told32300:23:25.660 --> 00:23:27.650us to do. Yeah, andit certainly is not to kill their child.32400:23:29.009 --> 00:23:33.650Yeah. So how about this nextone of faith? This one,32500:23:33.690 --> 00:23:37.890I use a lot it during thiscovid period. I think I've I've started32600:23:37.970 --> 00:23:41.920using this a lot of faith thatis only trusted when things go well is32700:23:42.039 --> 00:23:48.160not sustaining faith. Covid, Ithink, has not created a lack of32800:23:48.359 --> 00:23:55.319faith, it's revealed it. Yeah, because it's such an overwhelming circumstance in32900:23:55.440 --> 00:24:00.549so many people's lives and it's soterrifying to so many people. So if33000:24:00.670 --> 00:24:07.869someone claims to have faith, well, will they have faith through this terrifying33100:24:07.069 --> 00:24:11.019circumstance? Right, yeah, andyou think about it, God. God33200:24:11.059 --> 00:24:18.220allows things to come into our livesso that we can see really is our33300:24:18.299 --> 00:24:21.660faith genuine? God knows. Godknows if our faith is genuine, but33400:24:21.700 --> 00:24:23.690it helps us to judge our ownhearts. Yeah, faith is really borne33500:24:23.769 --> 00:24:29.690out where the rubber meets the road. It's not just in some profession of33600:24:29.769 --> 00:24:33.890your mouth that you trust the Lord, but when it really matters, do33700:24:33.049 --> 00:24:37.529you trust the Lord? And Ithink that can be communicated, and I33800:24:37.650 --> 00:24:40.720have communicated that with young men andyoung women, and I know you have33900:24:41.000 --> 00:24:45.119to in front of an abortion clinic, and it can be communicated in a34000:24:45.240 --> 00:24:48.240gracious way, not an accusatory way, because we want to be careful in34100:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.680this scenario that we're not just comingacross as accusatory. But you're not trust34200:24:52.759 --> 00:24:55.789in God? You should trust God? No, but you can say things34300:24:55.829 --> 00:24:59.789in such a way and you canask questions, you know, and I34400:24:59.910 --> 00:25:03.390think that really is helpful as saying, Hey, if you if you claim34500:25:03.430 --> 00:25:08.339to trust God, do you reallytrust him in situations where it's really hard34600:25:08.380 --> 00:25:11.259to trust him, because that's whereyour trust is born out. Yeah,34700:25:11.740 --> 00:25:15.339really, if you're going to goin that abortion clinic, are you trust34800:25:15.420 --> 00:25:21.299in God? Often Times you canget these women to admit because they believe34900:25:21.970 --> 00:25:25.730that this baby is precious and thatGod would never have them take the life35000:25:25.769 --> 00:25:27.970of the baby. But, asI say, sometimes they put their but35100:25:29.170 --> 00:25:32.369in the way. They know whatit is to obey God. Yeah,35200:25:32.650 --> 00:25:34.329and we do that, you know, if we're not careful, we do35300:25:34.450 --> 00:25:37.519that on a regular basis. Wherewill we know what God says in his35400:25:37.599 --> 00:25:44.039word? But until we put ourbutt in the way of God's of obedience35500:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.079to God's word, and that's whatthese women are doing right. So if35600:25:48.079 --> 00:25:49.869we can help them to understand thatand see that, are you really trust35700:25:49.910 --> 00:25:52.670in God? Yeah, trust God. I believe abortion is wrong, but35800:25:53.390 --> 00:25:56.549what don't you see how you're you'rekind of putting your butt in the way35900:25:56.630 --> 00:26:00.829of God's Treeth. Maybe not sayit that way, but maybe you do.36000:26:00.950 --> 00:26:03.829I don't know. It could behelpful, but just helping them to36100:26:03.869 --> 00:26:07.660understand what trust in God actually lookslike, that it doesn't just look like36200:26:07.859 --> 00:26:11.619words, it looks like actions.Yeah, and if you're trusting the Lord36300:26:11.660 --> 00:26:14.740and you believe that he would neverhave you to have an abortion and that36400:26:14.859 --> 00:26:17.980he's faithful and he's been faithful inthe passing and be faithful in the future.36500:26:18.420 --> 00:26:22.650Why not just leave this place right? I also think it's helpful in36600:26:22.089 --> 00:26:30.690that it is exposing really whether theyhave submitted their lives to God. I36700:26:30.009 --> 00:26:36.000believe that probably most of the womencoming to an abortion center probably have not.36800:26:36.519 --> 00:26:41.160Yeah, but most of them,I think, would tell me yes,36900:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.119they have. In fact, mostof them do tell me, yes,37000:26:44.200 --> 00:26:48.190I have, right, and whenyou start asking questions like you suggested,37100:26:48.430 --> 00:26:55.109then they come to a realization.Maybe I'm not following God, maybe37200:26:55.150 --> 00:27:00.029I haven't trusted God, and Ithink that is really important, because then37300:27:00.109 --> 00:27:03.259you can take them to the nextstep. Well, when do you intend37400:27:03.299 --> 00:27:07.140to start? Yeah, how aboutright now? Because right now God is37500:27:07.180 --> 00:27:11.940putting before you an opportunity. Thatis difficult and if your faith is to37600:27:12.180 --> 00:27:17.450grow, like any muscle, it'sit needs to be exercised, and here's37700:27:17.450 --> 00:27:21.609an opportunity for you to exercise thatfaith and trust him in this, this37800:27:21.849 --> 00:27:26.049hard thing. The the verse thatcame to me, or the story really,37900:27:26.250 --> 00:27:29.970was the story of David and Goliath. Yeah, in trusting God,38000:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.880because David had been trained, andthis is another principle of spiritual growth,38100:27:33.920 --> 00:27:38.839David had been trained in the smallerright things. Right, maybe you'd like38200:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.160me, the lion in the bearright, guarding his his father's sheet.38300:27:44.390 --> 00:27:47.589Yeah, on the back side ofthe pasture. Yeah, and that's where.38400:27:47.910 --> 00:27:51.789That was the training ground for Davidand ultimately lopping off the head of38500:27:51.829 --> 00:27:56.150that giant, defeating the the armyof the Philistine and that was a hard38600:27:56.269 --> 00:27:59.619thing. I mean he was facingthe whole rest of the army is cowering,38700:28:00.059 --> 00:28:03.180right, and this little boy,yeah, with no armor. Yeah,38800:28:03.299 --> 00:28:06.819and he took that giant down.And how did you do it?38900:28:07.180 --> 00:28:10.740About trusting the Lord, that's right, but not being more afraid of the39000:28:10.819 --> 00:28:15.650giant than he was of the Lord. Yeah, and that's the personally,39100:28:15.049 --> 00:28:22.529from my experience as a young father, imagining having a child when I was39200:28:22.809 --> 00:28:26.720seventeen years old was a Goliath.Yeah, and the anxiety and the fear39300:28:26.839 --> 00:28:32.440that came with that was more thanI could handle and my own strength.39400:28:32.519 --> 00:28:34.599Yeah, and by God's grace hegave me the ability. Now, I39500:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.720didn't become a Christian immediately, butI know it was about God's grace that39600:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.269I embraced fatherhood and did what Godhad called me to do. Yeah,39700:28:41.390 --> 00:28:44.670and I don't know my wife willsay the same. Being a young mother39800:28:44.789 --> 00:28:49.109in that situation. So in manyof these women know the story of David39900:28:49.109 --> 00:28:52.430and Goliath. Sti Sharing, likeyou, like you said earlier, these40000:28:52.470 --> 00:28:56.259Biblical stories of the faithfulness of Godand what God can do, can help40100:28:56.579 --> 00:29:00.660these women to relate to these certaintruth I think so, because covid is40200:29:00.740 --> 00:29:06.180a giant. That's the word.Giant is such a perfect word right for40300:29:06.579 --> 00:29:10.130so many of the struggles that weface, because they do feel like coming40400:29:10.289 --> 00:29:15.289against a giant. And back tosomething you said. You said you were40500:29:15.369 --> 00:29:21.569not a believer at the time thatyou embraced fatherhood. Not yet. But40600:29:21.769 --> 00:29:26.759I believe, I have seen itover and over again that when we walk40700:29:27.480 --> 00:29:34.880as though we believed, God helpsto increase our faith. For one thing,40800:29:36.039 --> 00:29:40.390we see his goodness. Right,you saw, I'm sure you saw,40900:29:40.509 --> 00:29:45.750the benefits of that precious child.Yeah, and when you see that41000:29:45.950 --> 00:29:48.390and you see, oh, whatI almost did, and it begins to41100:29:48.509 --> 00:29:53.180change your thoughts to but look whatGod, maybe, yeah, prevented me41200:29:53.380 --> 00:29:56.579from doing, and look at thebenefit, and I think you do.41300:29:56.940 --> 00:30:03.619When we walk fourth and obedience,even before we are really fully aware of41400:30:03.779 --> 00:30:08.410who were walking towards, I thinkGod so graciously moves us even closer towards41500:30:08.450 --> 00:30:11.849a true saving faith. Yeah,absolutely, God, know that happened in41600:30:11.970 --> 00:30:18.609my life. Yeah, yeah,in a certain sense we have to trust.41700:30:19.130 --> 00:30:22.240Yeah, I don't know how isto articulate this, but we have41800:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.759to trust the Lord for these women, do you know what I'm saying?41900:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.240So they've got to take that stepof faith and they got to trust the42000:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.720Lord. But what I mean bythat is we've got a share from our42100:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.150I guess more than new thing,share from our own testimony, like we've42200:30:36.230 --> 00:30:38.950trusted the Lord and we've seen hisfaithfulness. So that maybe that's what I'm42300:30:38.950 --> 00:30:41.750trying to say, is we needto talk about what God has done in42400:30:41.869 --> 00:30:45.309our lives to help infuse hope inthem, to say, Hey, God42500:30:45.390 --> 00:30:48.670did this for me. That's whywe will share my testimony. I know42600:30:48.750 --> 00:30:52.420that's why you'll share what God hasdone in your life. We share a42700:30:52.539 --> 00:30:57.019testimonies because our testimonies help other peopleto overcome because we're not special, right.42800:30:57.180 --> 00:31:02.380I don't think I'm some special personthat God somehow would move on behalf42900:31:02.420 --> 00:31:07.089of me and nobody else know ifGod moved on my behalf, and I43000:31:07.250 --> 00:31:10.730know me. I'm not a verynot a very good guy. Apart from43100:31:10.730 --> 00:31:14.009Christ. If he would move themmy behalf, then he would move on43200:31:14.130 --> 00:31:18.049behalf of these moms these dad's,because he's faithful and he's good and he's43300:31:18.170 --> 00:31:22.839merciful and he's kind. Sharing ourtestimony is a powerful way to bring God43400:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.720into the equation, to combat fearin the coronavirus situation, any other situation43500:31:26.839 --> 00:31:32.440than we're dealing with. Yeah,because ultimately, the Gospel is the only43600:31:32.799 --> 00:31:40.150answer to this terrible future that we'reall gazing at right now. The only43700:31:40.349 --> 00:31:44.390answer is that there's a God wholoves us, a God who has called43800:31:44.470 --> 00:31:48.819us to obey him no matter what. Yeah, no matter what is surrounding43900:31:48.900 --> 00:31:52.900us, no matter what our circumstancesare, situation is, and in fact44000:31:52.900 --> 00:32:00.380that's sort of the last point.Following God and encouraging these women to follow44100:32:00.420 --> 00:32:07.289God despite fear brings great reward.Yeah, it's not just that you follow44200:32:07.369 --> 00:32:10.849God and you know when you dieat least you're going to go to heaven.44300:32:10.849 --> 00:32:14.809And Yeah, life is going tobe pure hell until they're not right,44400:32:14.970 --> 00:32:20.559but following God brings reward. Andso Genesis fifteen one is a great44500:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.440verse to remind them of this.After these things, the word of the44600:32:23.559 --> 00:32:28.880Lord came to Abram in a visionsaying do not fear, Abram, I44700:32:28.960 --> 00:32:32.509am a shield to you. Yourreward shall be very great. Yeah,44800:32:32.910 --> 00:32:37.150so God was encouraging Abram at thattime. He was Abraham, not yet44900:32:37.589 --> 00:32:44.380renamed Abraham, but his his rewardwas going to be great. And God,45000:32:44.579 --> 00:32:47.900I love that that image. Godis a shield to him. Yeah,45100:32:49.220 --> 00:32:52.940so God will protect him. Yeah, God prevents the slings and Arrows45200:32:53.700 --> 00:33:00.049from wounding him. Right, andultimately it come ms in, because that's45300:33:00.089 --> 00:33:02.289the goal for us, not just, I don't minimize by saying just,45400:33:02.609 --> 00:33:07.450but not just to have this momchoose life for her baby, but ultimately45500:33:07.490 --> 00:33:12.450to see her trust in the Lord, to see her her life given to45600:33:12.529 --> 00:33:15.000him, and then the Lord,because we've seen him do it so many45700:33:15.000 --> 00:33:21.440times, the Lord turn that lifearound and use her and that child for45800:33:21.559 --> 00:33:24.119his glory and for their good.Yeah, it's like when God is glorified45900:33:24.200 --> 00:33:29.069through our lives, we read thebenefit from that. Now, as you46000:33:29.150 --> 00:33:31.589said earlier, we're not talking alltheir troubles are going to go away and46100:33:31.990 --> 00:33:35.869immediately seon. As they choose lifeand they put their trust in Jesus,46200:33:35.910 --> 00:33:37.750they're going to find a great joband get a brand new car and all46300:33:37.789 --> 00:33:42.819this other stuff, but we aretalking about just practically the provision that God46400:33:43.019 --> 00:33:46.940brings in the faithfulness of God inthese situations. God does promise to provide46500:33:47.259 --> 00:33:52.019for our needs. Yeah, youknow, the Bible tells us God will46600:33:52.059 --> 00:33:55.809provide all of our needs according toas riches and glory, not a prosperity.46700:33:55.890 --> 00:34:00.609Preach your message, because it doessay needs, not wants. Right,46800:34:00.089 --> 00:34:04.289he's not going to send a BMWnecessarily, and I maybe if you46900:34:04.410 --> 00:34:07.009need it he will, but Idoubt that he will, because I out47000:34:07.049 --> 00:34:10.000anybody needs that. The point is, though, that God is faithful and47100:34:10.159 --> 00:34:15.800God brings provision. The Devil's aliar and in the devil often times operates47200:34:15.840 --> 00:34:21.920in the realm of fear and usesfear to drowned out faith and trust.47300:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.909And so, as side will counselorsis those are ministering to abortion minded women47400:34:24.949 --> 00:34:29.630in the midst of this pandemic,we need to bring faith into the equation.47500:34:29.670 --> 00:34:31.469Yeah, we need to bring thecharacter of God into the equation,47600:34:31.550 --> 00:34:36.030that God is faithful, and wedo that, course, by sharing stories47700:34:36.070 --> 00:34:38.420from the from the word of God, like we shared about earlier, also47800:34:38.460 --> 00:34:44.500about sharing testimonies. If you guyshave a testimony of God being faithful,47900:34:44.619 --> 00:34:46.659and I'm sure you do, sharingthat testimony, whether it has to do48000:34:46.780 --> 00:34:52.659with pregnancy or or anything to dowith abortion or coronavirus or anything about what48100:34:52.699 --> 00:34:55.650we talked about. Just talking aboutthe faithfulness of God helps encourage people that48200:34:55.769 --> 00:34:59.889they can trust him. Yeah,and I think we all have a story48300:34:59.969 --> 00:35:04.369of fear in the face of uncertainty, which I think is at the crux48400:35:04.449 --> 00:35:10.400of the coronavirus fears did the uncertainty, and Abraham is actually a perfect story48500:35:10.480 --> 00:35:15.199of that, because he was toldby God go to a land. I'm48600:35:15.199 --> 00:35:16.840not going to tell you what itis. Yeah, but you're going to48700:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.039go and you'll be the father ofmany nations. And they're old and his48800:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.469wife is infertile, right, youknow I mean, if that's not like48900:35:23.710 --> 00:35:30.510looking at a very uncertain future andpromise and wondering how on Earth could this49000:35:30.909 --> 00:35:36.739possibly be brought about? But Abrahamgoes. Yeah, and he faces a49100:35:36.780 --> 00:35:38.739lot of struggle. There's a lotof struggle and there's a lot of backsliding49200:35:38.780 --> 00:35:44.940even in his life, but ultimatelyGod's promises proved true and Abraham did indeed49300:35:44.980 --> 00:35:50.210become the father of many nations.Through Isaac and the Israelites, God's people49400:35:50.210 --> 00:35:53.809were finally, ultimately led to thepromised land. Yeah, the great reward.49500:35:53.849 --> 00:35:58.050Yeah, and then ultimately Jesus,the Messiah comes through that line.49600:35:58.090 --> 00:36:01.449And, yeah, many are savedaround the world who are after the line49700:36:01.449 --> 00:36:06.000of Abraham, which is those whoare faithful, those who put their trust49800:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.239in the Lord. Yeah, sothis is awesome to see what the Lord49900:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.800does, and it's all throughout thispodcast we've talked about really two words,50000:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.670fear and faith. To know thatthis coronavirus and again, as we started50100:36:17.789 --> 00:36:22.190out, we need to meet peoplewhere they're at, not legitimize their fears,50200:36:23.309 --> 00:36:28.070but understand their fears, that they'reafraid of the future. They're afraid50300:36:28.110 --> 00:36:31.750of the coronavirus, they're afraid ofmaybe what the effects of coronavirus may be50400:36:31.900 --> 00:36:36.980on their baby. But bring faithinto the equation that God is trustworthy,50500:36:37.139 --> 00:36:39.340that God will see them through.They'll put their trust in him. Bringing50600:36:39.500 --> 00:36:45.659faith into the equation and trusting inthe Lord will help these women to do50700:36:45.780 --> 00:36:49.289the right thing, put their trustin the Lord and babies will be saved.50800:36:49.329 --> 00:36:52.929Yeah. Yeah, and now,in the first few months we were50900:36:52.929 --> 00:36:57.409seeing an uptick in abortions. Frankly, today we saw Mondays, are used51000:36:57.409 --> 00:37:00.250to be a really, really busyday, it hasn't been in we're thinking,51100:37:00.289 --> 00:37:04.840well, in ascent in maybe coronavirusis helping because keeping young people apart51200:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.760and so there's not as much need, I guess, in their eyes,51300:37:07.880 --> 00:37:13.280for an abortion. People aren't becomingpregnant. Maybe I don't know, we're51400:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.429just another little theory running room outthere. But, but, but,51500:37:17.349 --> 00:37:22.190yeah, but ultimately, the themain point is that coronavirus is terrible.51600:37:22.309 --> 00:37:27.150It is causing at least it iscausing a great deal of uncertainty and fear51700:37:27.630 --> 00:37:31.659and we are facing that in thewomen coming. But that doesn't mean that51800:37:31.900 --> 00:37:37.219we don't have an answer. Theanswer is always the answer. It's Jesus,51900:37:37.260 --> 00:37:39.739yeah, the Gospel, its sharing. The the only hope that they're52000:37:39.780 --> 00:37:45.329really ever, is no matter whatyou face any man. Yeah, all52100:37:45.329 --> 00:37:47.130right. Well, guys, weappreciate you listening to us. If you52200:37:47.250 --> 00:37:51.769have any subjects you'd like for usto cover along this line, along you52300:37:51.929 --> 00:37:57.610sidewalk counseling, sidewalk out reach,abortion clinic ministry or just abortion in general,52400:37:57.730 --> 00:38:00.519that you would like for us tocover. Shoot those ideas over to52500:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.800us. If you have guests thatmaybe you would suggest US reaching out to52600:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.480or you can connect us with thatwe can have on the podcast. We'd52700:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.679love to do that. We doappreciate you guys listening and until next time,52800:38:10.880 --> 00:38:22.550God bless. Give me our lovefor love, give me our love52900:38:22.789 --> 00:38:35.420for gratitude. I know it willcost me my love. No thing's too53000:38:35.659 --> 00:38:37.860precious in some you