Dec. 9, 2021

How and When to Introduce The Message of Sexual Purity

How and When to Introduce The Message of Sexual Purity

The vast majority of abortions take place because of sexual immorality. Though our primary focus is helping moms see the value of their babies there is an appropriate time and way to introduce Biblical truths about sexual purity. In this episode, we share some Biblical insights and principles on introducing the message of sexual purity to the men and women we encounter at the abortion centers.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:06.400 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me Lord, 2 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:12.070 I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center 3 00:00:12.189 --> 00:00:17.550 Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you in 4 00:00:17.670 --> 00:00:21.660 pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned. 5 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:35.420 I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Welcome back to the Gospel 6 00:00:35.460 --> 00:00:40.009 Center pro life podcast. Appreciate you, guys, joining us and we're going 7 00:00:40.049 --> 00:00:44.689 to try to get right into our subject today, and our subject, as 8 00:00:44.729 --> 00:00:49.530 all of our subjects are, is a gospel centered subject or focusing on what 9 00:00:49.649 --> 00:00:53.520 the word of God says about this particular subject. And of course, it's 10 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:56.119 in the light of the ministry that we're involved in, on the sidewalks at 11 00:00:56.119 --> 00:01:02.159 abortion centers, on these subjects that we cover in this podcast are often time 12 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.189 subjects that either someone reached out and ask hey, how would you handle this, 13 00:01:04.430 --> 00:01:07.790 or things that we personally have encountered and we thought if we talked through 14 00:01:07.790 --> 00:01:11.629 it, it be a blessing to you, guys. And the subject today 15 00:01:11.950 --> 00:01:17.230 is going to be the subject of sexual purity and, in particular, how 16 00:01:17.310 --> 00:01:23.099 to introduce and and talk about the subject of sexual purity with women, primarily 17 00:01:23.180 --> 00:01:27.780 at the abortion center, but also men, and we'll probably give you some 18 00:01:29.180 --> 00:01:33.450 scenarios in which we've encountered this and shared this and we'll talk through again with 19 00:01:33.530 --> 00:01:38.890 the Bible says. So, Vicky, maybe just kind of share what encourage 20 00:01:38.890 --> 00:01:42.810 you to write this article and then we'll jump right into some of the scriptures 21 00:01:42.849 --> 00:01:45.370 and some of the things that we have to cover for this topic. Yeah, 22 00:01:45.409 --> 00:01:48.319 well, right away, we believe that there would be no abortions if 23 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:52.159 there is no sexual impurity, that it is sexual sin that leads to abortions. 24 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.959 But very specifically, this comes up all the time. It is an 25 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:00.280 issue all the time, and one of our counselor's nationally reached out to me 26 00:02:00.590 --> 00:02:05.950 and said, you know, I'm just I need some help in a a 27 00:02:06.189 --> 00:02:12.830 statement that'll stop someone in their tracks and plant a seat for sexual purity. 28 00:02:12.870 --> 00:02:17.259 Yeah, so I thought this would be a good subject for us to then 29 00:02:17.580 --> 00:02:22.419 help people. How do you broach the subject if you have a long time 30 00:02:22.740 --> 00:02:25.340 and if you only have a few seconds? Yeah, because it cannot be 31 00:02:25.419 --> 00:02:30.569 ignored. It absolutely has to be addressed, I believe, for anyone that 32 00:02:30.689 --> 00:02:34.530 is ministring outside of an abortion center. Yeah, yeah, and so what 33 00:02:34.650 --> 00:02:37.650 you said, I want to reiterate, and we said this before we even 34 00:02:37.650 --> 00:02:43.050 started recording this this podcast, is that the vast majority of abortions take place 35 00:02:43.090 --> 00:02:46.759 because of sexual immorality, right, sex outside of marriage. Primarily, sometimes 36 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:53.360 it's adulterous situation where you know someone's married to a man and they go and 37 00:02:53.120 --> 00:03:00.030 have an adulterous affair with another man. If sexual immorality was not a thing, 38 00:03:00.750 --> 00:03:04.710 then abortion would likely not be a thing. You can go of course 39 00:03:04.789 --> 00:03:07.030 think, well, yeah, some women that are married and get pregnant by 40 00:03:07.069 --> 00:03:10.310 their husband have abortions. That does happen. But if you look at the 41 00:03:10.389 --> 00:03:17.099 vast majority, and it's in the hot it's in the ninety percent range of 42 00:03:17.180 --> 00:03:22.740 abortions that take place, they take place because someone had sex outside of marriage 43 00:03:23.099 --> 00:03:27.610 and got caught up in a situation they didn't account for. And so though 44 00:03:27.689 --> 00:03:30.449 our primary goal and talking to a mom out an abortion center is going to 45 00:03:30.490 --> 00:03:34.210 be talking to her about her baby and trying to convince her not to kill 46 00:03:34.210 --> 00:03:38.810 her baby through abortion, it is appropriate because these women are called up, 47 00:03:38.849 --> 00:03:40.639 just like we were right. We were caught up in a cycle of sin 48 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:45.319 that leads to death. These women are caught up in that cycle of sin 49 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:49.560 and death and we want to break that cycle. So we've got to address 50 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:53.479 the things that get her caught up in that cycle. Like she got pregnant 51 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:58.750 somehow, right, yeah, she got pregnant quite likely because of sex outside 52 00:03:58.750 --> 00:04:01.110 of marriage. Yeah, that's ultimately what brought her to the abortion center. 53 00:04:01.750 --> 00:04:04.710 And so if we can address that, and it's not just the women going 54 00:04:04.750 --> 00:04:10.860 into the abortion center it's also women that we've ministered to who maybe have, 55 00:04:11.939 --> 00:04:15.939 you know, a post abortion story. We've encountered them coming out after they 56 00:04:15.979 --> 00:04:19.980 had the abortion and to the sexual purity message can be appropriate there for men. 57 00:04:20.060 --> 00:04:23.740 I mean I've literally just to kind of maybe jump the gun a little 58 00:04:23.899 --> 00:04:26.569 bed and go ahead a little bit in this article. I've talked to men 59 00:04:26.610 --> 00:04:30.250 in front of the abortion center weeping their eyes out because they didn't want to 60 00:04:30.410 --> 00:04:31.889 their girlfriend to go and have the abortion. They didn't want to actually, 61 00:04:31.930 --> 00:04:34.930 matter of fact, this happened while I was out in California. Young Man 62 00:04:35.009 --> 00:04:39.959 came walking up to me ask me and the people that are out there please 63 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:42.800 pray for my girlfriend. I don't want her to do this. I never, 64 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:46.439 never wanted to be a part of an abortion like this and that of 65 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:50.319 course, his situation was they're not married there had they had sex outside of 66 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:54.829 marriage, got caught up in a situation that didn't account for and so I've 67 00:04:54.870 --> 00:04:58.149 talked to men in that situation. You have to be sensitive, of course. 68 00:04:58.589 --> 00:05:00.750 You don't want to add insul to injury when you're out there weeping on 69 00:05:00.790 --> 00:05:03.350 the sidewalk and their girlfriends in there to have an abortion. I don't want 70 00:05:03.350 --> 00:05:06.899 to just hammer him with hey, well, you shouldn't have had sex outside 71 00:05:06.899 --> 00:05:11.019 of marriage, you wicked. Center. Right, I want to be gracious, 72 00:05:11.060 --> 00:05:13.899 but also want to be fourth right, Hey, and I've said this 73 00:05:14.060 --> 00:05:18.899 oftentimes, do you see where sin leads? Yeah, the Bible warns against 74 00:05:18.899 --> 00:05:23.290 sex outside of marriage. Do you see that? It's not just because God 75 00:05:23.449 --> 00:05:27.129 wants to withhold something from you? Yeah, but it is actually God cares 76 00:05:27.170 --> 00:05:30.050 about you and doesn't want you to be caught up in situations like this. 77 00:05:30.290 --> 00:05:34.050 That's right, it's his protection. Yeah, and then the third opportunity, 78 00:05:34.089 --> 00:05:40.319 I guess, to be able to talk about sexual purity is for if you're 79 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:44.399 at a place like a Plant parenthood that offers birth control pills. Yeah, 80 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:46.199 these women there, they may not very well not be there for an abortion. 81 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.319 We hear that all the time. I'm not here for that. I'm 82 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:53.829 not here for an abortion, but they are there for birth control pills, 83 00:05:54.230 --> 00:06:00.910 and maybe this is your opportunity to prevent a future abortion right by by addressing 84 00:06:00.990 --> 00:06:04.819 the holy sue of sexual impurity, because our sexual immorality, because most of 85 00:06:04.899 --> 00:06:10.019 the times, again, the women going in for the birth control pills are 86 00:06:10.139 --> 00:06:14.259 quite often young, unmarried women. Yeah, and men. So so I 87 00:06:14.379 --> 00:06:16.540 think the first thing that we need to have clear in our heart as well. 88 00:06:17.019 --> 00:06:20.050 It will. Is it bad? It's a bad sex outside of marriage? 89 00:06:20.250 --> 00:06:24.209 Certainly, the culture says it's not bad. He says it's not bad, 90 00:06:24.329 --> 00:06:27.769 movies say it's not bad, the songs say it's not bad. Yeah, 91 00:06:27.850 --> 00:06:30.250 but what is the Bible say, which is is our of course, 92 00:06:30.449 --> 00:06:38.040 where we go to first for our morals and our what is what we should 93 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.800 be telling others? Yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah, I mean certainly 94 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.879 it should be a personal conviction to us, but not a personal conviction just 95 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.389 based on our feelings, but based on the word of God. So, 96 00:06:48.550 --> 00:06:51.029 yeah, what does the Word of God say? We can go right, 97 00:06:51.189 --> 00:06:55.910 we can go all the way back to the first, you know, two 98 00:06:55.990 --> 00:06:59.750 books of the Bible. We can see what sexual Sindy, even in Genesis, 99 00:06:59.910 --> 00:07:03.100 but in particular I'm thinking of Exodus and Chapter Twenty, the Ten Commandments, 100 00:07:03.579 --> 00:07:08.220 the Seventh Command you shall not commit adultery, right, which includes all 101 00:07:08.379 --> 00:07:13.180 sexual immorality. So there's the clear foundation there that God is against all sexual 102 00:07:13.259 --> 00:07:18.610 immorality. Any sex outside of marriage is sexual immorality and you know so that's 103 00:07:18.889 --> 00:07:23.610 a clear biblical standard right there. Yeah, but then you've got a few 104 00:07:23.610 --> 00:07:27.889 scriptures that you put out here which are all great from from the New Testament. 105 00:07:27.970 --> 00:07:30.240 And again this is not just a new testament principle. Sex outside of 106 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:34.279 marriage is a principle since the very beginning because God, God, is the 107 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:40.000 one that created sex. But of course the devil in human beings, in 108 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:44.629 their willingness to believe the lives of the devil, have really perverted this thing, 109 00:07:44.670 --> 00:07:47.589 yeah, that God has created to be something beautiful inside of marriage. 110 00:07:47.790 --> 00:07:51.269 The devil in human beings have perverted it. Right, but the New Testament 111 00:07:51.310 --> 00:07:55.990 does address sexual sex outside of marriage several times. I'm going to read just 112 00:07:56.069 --> 00:07:59.180 a few passages here. The first one I'm going to read is in First 113 00:07:59.180 --> 00:08:03.699 Corinthians, chapter six and verse Eighteen, where it says flee from sexual immorality. 114 00:08:03.740 --> 00:08:07.139 Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually 115 00:08:07.180 --> 00:08:13.889 immoral person sends against his own body. The principle in this particular passage of 116 00:08:13.930 --> 00:08:16.730 scripture, I mean you can get into death, we could read the whole 117 00:08:16.810 --> 00:08:22.009 context of it, but really the principle kind of remains true through the whole 118 00:08:22.569 --> 00:08:26.480 Bible. Really and why God is against sexual immorality, not just because, 119 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.839 you know, he's grossed out by it or whatever, but it really has 120 00:08:31.039 --> 00:08:37.120 to do with God's concerning care for human beings. God cares for us a 121 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:39.480 lot of times. I'll say I'll say it on the microphone, I'll say 122 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.509 it in one on one conversations, is that when God sets up his standard, 123 00:08:43.549 --> 00:08:48.230 and in particular the standard of you shall not commit a Adultri or have 124 00:08:48.350 --> 00:08:52.350 sex outside of marriage, that's standard. We could view that standard one of 125 00:08:52.470 --> 00:08:56.659 two ways. We could view it as kind of a gate to keep us 126 00:08:56.659 --> 00:09:00.860 out of out of enjoying like a beautiful pasture, that God wants to keep 127 00:09:00.860 --> 00:09:05.419 us away from this beautiful place where we could go and have fun and enjoy 128 00:09:05.500 --> 00:09:07.899 life. We can view it like that, yeah, or kind of like 129 00:09:07.139 --> 00:09:11.049 a boundary that God says you can't go because, after all, if you 130 00:09:11.090 --> 00:09:13.129 went past that boundary you would enjoy life, and so God wants to hold 131 00:09:13.129 --> 00:09:16.570 something back from you. We can view it like that or we can view 132 00:09:16.570 --> 00:09:20.490 it, I think, more accurately or in contrast to that, which is 133 00:09:20.529 --> 00:09:24.250 not accurate at all. God's not trying to just keep something from us. 134 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.080 You can view it, I think, biblically, which is like a guard 135 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.360 rail on a mountain road. Right, you're driving the mountain road. Many 136 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.120 of you guys know exactly what I'm talking about. You see those guard rails. 137 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:35.799 If you were to look over the edge, you would see there's a 138 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:41.110 there's a quite a fall that you would have if you went past that guard 139 00:09:41.110 --> 00:09:45.549 rail. That guard rail is not there to keep you from enjoying your flight. 140 00:09:46.110 --> 00:09:48.909 I want to fly, and so that guard reels hold me back from 141 00:09:48.909 --> 00:09:52.299 flying. That guard rail is to keep you from a heap of destruction at 142 00:09:52.299 --> 00:09:56.059 the bottom of that mountain. And that's what God's Word is. That's what 143 00:09:56.259 --> 00:10:01.299 the Law of God is. It's to keep you from destruction, right, 144 00:10:01.580 --> 00:10:05.299 and that's what this is talking about in this first Corinthians chapter six passage, 145 00:10:05.460 --> 00:10:09.210 and I think it's also interesting in that passage that it compares sexual sin with 146 00:10:09.330 --> 00:10:15.049 other sins. Yeah, and and that there is something specially dangerous, yeah, 147 00:10:15.049 --> 00:10:18.850 about sexual sin. It's what this would indicate. Yeah, absolutely. 148 00:10:18.129 --> 00:10:20.919 And again, if you look throughout the Old Testament, you look at I 149 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.120 mean I think of a man like David King, David, who was a 150 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.639 prophet, a priest, a man after God's own heart. And yet what 151 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:33.720 was his demise? It was sexual sin. Right, and again, God 152 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.710 wants us to be warned of the consequences of sexual sin because of the destruction 153 00:10:37.789 --> 00:10:43.350 that comes from it. Things like abortion, like sexually transmitted diseases, like 154 00:10:43.629 --> 00:10:50.179 the destruction of relationships, those things are the result of sexual sin. And 155 00:10:50.419 --> 00:10:56.700 he says here this sin is against your own body. Yeah, against your 156 00:10:56.700 --> 00:11:00.620 own body. So it does destruction to you and to your own body in 157 00:11:00.740 --> 00:11:03.740 so many ways. The next passage, and again you've got a couple of 158 00:11:03.779 --> 00:11:07.090 passages here which I think guys get ahold of this article and read all these 159 00:11:07.129 --> 00:11:11.090 passages be familiar with these, but that he brews chapter thirteen, verse for 160 00:11:11.370 --> 00:11:16.409 passage, and says let marriage be held an honor among all man. That's 161 00:11:16.450 --> 00:11:20.679 a rebuke to our our modern day that marriage is not held an honor right. 162 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.559 Let Marriage be held an honor among all. Let the marriage bed be 163 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:30.960 undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. And here's where 164 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.870 it comes to like like. Yes, God is a just judge, God 165 00:11:33.950 --> 00:11:39.230 does have a standard and that standard is for our good. But God, 166 00:11:39.309 --> 00:11:41.750 as a creator, has a right to say what is good and what is 167 00:11:41.789 --> 00:11:48.100 right, for our good, but also because he says so in the Bible 168 00:11:48.179 --> 00:11:52.500 tells us very clearly. Go you go on into revelation, Chapter Twenty one, 169 00:11:52.539 --> 00:11:56.299 Verse Eight, where it talks about that these people that will in not 170 00:11:56.419 --> 00:12:00.299 inherit the Kingdom of God but will be put into the lake of fire, 171 00:12:00.340 --> 00:12:05.889 or sexual immoral people. Of course it talks about idolatres and it talks about 172 00:12:05.929 --> 00:12:09.570 cowards and it talks about liars, but the sexual immoral are there too, 173 00:12:09.649 --> 00:12:13.850 and in First Corinthians, I believe, in that same passage in First Corinthians, 174 00:12:13.370 --> 00:12:16.159 chapter six, I think it's first nine, where it says that the 175 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.840 sexually immoral will not inherit the Kingdom of God, and in the passage in 176 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:24.919 as a Glacian, chapter six, where Paul Talks about those who will not 177 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.960 inherit the Kingdom of God and he talks about shares, about the fruits of 178 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.750 the spirit. After this passage, right before this passage, he talks about 179 00:12:31.750 --> 00:12:35.909 the spirit wars against the flesh and the deeds of the flesh are evident. 180 00:12:35.909 --> 00:12:39.470 And he talks about sexual immorality. It's woven through the whole New Testament that 181 00:12:39.629 --> 00:12:43.830 sexual immorality is something that God is not okay with and does not approve of, 182 00:12:43.419 --> 00:12:48.299 that we should oppose. And if we care about people that are in 183 00:12:48.419 --> 00:12:52.179 sexual immorality, because we don't want them to be judged by God, we 184 00:12:52.299 --> 00:12:56.179 need to warn them about this right and I mean you can do it. 185 00:12:56.419 --> 00:12:58.809 You can, you can hold up a sign that says Turner Burn. I 186 00:12:58.889 --> 00:13:05.049 guess God could use that. But I think in these situations it's more appropriate 187 00:13:05.129 --> 00:13:09.570 for us to address these situations forth rightly but with grace and have a conversation, 188 00:13:09.690 --> 00:13:13.080 especially with the woman who in a broken situation. To just tell her 189 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.440 turn or burn is probably not going to be the best way to approach it 190 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:20.120 right. But I do think we need to issue warnings as it pertains this 191 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.440 sexual and morality, not just it's a bad idea for you. It might 192 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:28.190 just affect your body it leads to things like abortion. We can certainly mention 193 00:13:28.350 --> 00:13:31.750 those things, but I think we also need to warn them of the fact 194 00:13:31.750 --> 00:13:35.070 that they're going to stand before God and give an account. Yeah, give 195 00:13:35.070 --> 00:13:39.429 them the biblical warning and for also, quite often, if they're in front 196 00:13:39.429 --> 00:13:43.659 of an abortion center, they are they're not happy, not at peace. 197 00:13:43.820 --> 00:13:46.860 No, they know that their choices have led them to a place they don't 198 00:13:46.860 --> 00:13:48.860 want to be. So they are open maybe to that message. And I 199 00:13:50.019 --> 00:13:56.129 will often say, well, where did your desire to have sex out side 200 00:13:56.169 --> 00:13:58.370 of marriage lead you? Was it to a place that you wanted to be? 201 00:13:58.850 --> 00:14:03.970 Was this relationship where you wanted it to be? In quite often the 202 00:14:03.169 --> 00:14:07.490 the man, is the one urging the abortion and they're able to see. 203 00:14:07.649 --> 00:14:11.519 Well, honestly, sex outside of marriage really did harm them. They are 204 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:16.679 able to see maybe better than when things are going great and they're not standing 205 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.559 in front of an abortion center. Yeah, but one of the main struggles, 206 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:26.190 I think, is what we alluded to earlier. Cultural norms and oppose 207 00:14:26.230 --> 00:14:31.269 us. I mean it is everywhere. The the joy of sex out side 208 00:14:31.309 --> 00:14:33.830 of marriage with none of the consequence, right, none of the fall out. 209 00:14:35.029 --> 00:14:39.820 Yeah, none of the destruction. And because of that you often have 210 00:14:39.899 --> 00:14:46.100 an upward battle in trying to present to them that this is this is not 211 00:14:46.299 --> 00:14:50.980 good. Yeah, I mean, strangely, even in the Christian Christian culture 212 00:14:52.179 --> 00:14:56.929 of America, it's like sex outside of marriage is the norm. It's almost 213 00:14:56.929 --> 00:15:01.490 like you're speaking a foreign language when you you say things like fornication is sin, 214 00:15:01.850 --> 00:15:05.169 and even the word fornication. I actually use the word fornication. Yeah, 215 00:15:05.730 --> 00:15:09.799 it's a maybe, I don't know, an old school word or whatever, 216 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:11.679 whatever you want to call it's a biblical word, right, and it 217 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:16.480 has certain connotations to it and if I use the word fornication I'll always explain 218 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.429 what that means. Fornication is any sex outside of marriage, Ye, outside 219 00:15:20.429 --> 00:15:24.269 of the covenant of marriage. But yeah, fornication is even like a foreign 220 00:15:24.350 --> 00:15:28.269 term to even to a lot of modern Christians. Yeah, this idea that 221 00:15:28.429 --> 00:15:33.710 secks outside of marriage somehow is not God's will for us. I mean it's 222 00:15:33.789 --> 00:15:41.059 again, it's a common biblical reality and for our society and even, unfortunately, 223 00:15:41.100 --> 00:15:43.299 for some of the church, it's a foreign concept to say that sex 224 00:15:43.379 --> 00:15:46.299 outside of marriage is sin, that it's wrong. Yeah, so I have 225 00:15:46.620 --> 00:15:54.129 often found, as I am sharing the truth about sexual purity and that sex 226 00:15:54.210 --> 00:16:02.289 outside of marriage is a sin. Usually the women are surprised. I mean, 227 00:16:02.450 --> 00:16:06.360 on one level they're not when I when I say do you think God 228 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:14.480 approved of sex outside of marriage, they will sometimes say no, he really 229 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:19.789 doesn't, but sometimes they are surprised, which always surprises me. Yeah, 230 00:16:21.110 --> 00:16:25.710 but but so how do we, how do we broach that subject? That 231 00:16:25.990 --> 00:16:33.179 is probably one of the most common questions I get regarding this from fellow counselors. 232 00:16:33.259 --> 00:16:36.980 How how do you bring it up in in the first place, and 233 00:16:37.539 --> 00:16:41.940 maybe you could share how you do, how I do quite often is I'm 234 00:16:41.139 --> 00:16:47.059 sharing the Gospel. Yeah, and I'm sharing ray comforts, kind of framework 235 00:16:47.100 --> 00:16:49.250 for the Gospel. And when I ask them, are you going to heaven 236 00:16:49.250 --> 00:16:52.009 and Hell? And then I go through a list of sins to show them, 237 00:16:52.049 --> 00:16:55.049 hey, you're really not the good person you thought you were. And 238 00:16:55.210 --> 00:16:59.529 one of those is always have you ever lusted after someone that you're not married 239 00:16:59.649 --> 00:17:03.200 to? And they almost always, of course, say yes. And then 240 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:10.759 I'll say, well, the Bible calls that adult tree and it's very serious. 241 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.119 And why? Why do you think it's serious? and well, that's 242 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:18.470 how I get into the subject. And then I'll point out verses that some 243 00:17:18.589 --> 00:17:22.190 of them that we've already listed. YEA, and from there we can we'll 244 00:17:22.230 --> 00:17:25.789 get into the this is now, again, if you have an extended amount 245 00:17:25.829 --> 00:17:30.740 of time, right when when you have to speak with them. But often 246 00:17:30.940 --> 00:17:34.859 that's how I begin that that discussion. Yeah, yeah, of times I'll 247 00:17:34.859 --> 00:17:38.460 begin the discussion and I do talk to women at the abortion center and I 248 00:17:38.539 --> 00:17:41.980 will mention this subject. I'm probably not going to get as in depth with 249 00:17:42.140 --> 00:17:48.049 a woman as you would right, but with the men I'll kind of approach 250 00:17:48.130 --> 00:17:51.849 the subject just like I explained earlier. If he's there on the sidewalk, 251 00:17:52.089 --> 00:17:55.930 and a lot of times these guys are weeping, they're broken. Sometimes it's 252 00:17:55.970 --> 00:18:00.039 crocodile tears and they're just really feeling guilty and they probably are the one that 253 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.319 brought her there by. But I haven't had men like balling their eyes out 254 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.920 hoping that she would come out of there and not have the abortion. And 255 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.599 so I will introduce the subject of sexual purity by saying something to the effect 256 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.349 of you, do you see where sexual sin leads? I might ask the 257 00:18:15.430 --> 00:18:21.509 question like you do. What do you think God thinks about sex outside of 258 00:18:21.589 --> 00:18:25.829 marriage? And most people, if they mean listen, we all have a 259 00:18:25.910 --> 00:18:29.059 conscience, we all know right from wrong. We all know that sexual sin 260 00:18:29.220 --> 00:18:33.299 is wrong. We know that it's wrong. Society has taught us otherwise and 261 00:18:33.380 --> 00:18:37.579 we believe the lives of society for the most part, but we all know 262 00:18:37.619 --> 00:18:41.259 it's wrong. So most men will reply, well, I know it's wrong, 263 00:18:41.730 --> 00:18:45.450 but something like everybody's doing it. It's just what you do, right. 264 00:18:45.730 --> 00:18:49.490 And so I'll continue in the conversation and talking about well, if you 265 00:18:49.569 --> 00:18:52.809 wouldn't have had sex outside of marriage, would you be here in the situation 266 00:18:52.970 --> 00:18:56.759 that you're in? Do you see that God's word, even though maybe you 267 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:00.079 don't agree with the Bible, do you see that God's word and what God 268 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:04.319 set forth is the best? Yeah, and I might even get, I've 269 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:10.910 gotten into some even like statistical conversations about God's ways being the best ways. 270 00:19:10.950 --> 00:19:17.789 Even sociologist and psychologist and all these people would agree that the best context for 271 00:19:17.869 --> 00:19:22.150 a child to be raised in is two parents that are married, two parents 272 00:19:22.109 --> 00:19:26.539 the MOM and the dad. Even have to be specific in this day and 273 00:19:26.579 --> 00:19:29.859 age about that. Yeah, the two parents are a mom and the dad, 274 00:19:30.180 --> 00:19:33.619 for them to be married and to stay married is the best context for 275 00:19:33.660 --> 00:19:36.500 a child to be raised in God's ways are the best ways, and so 276 00:19:36.579 --> 00:19:40.529 I'll have the conversation along those lines. Yeah, those are good. Another 277 00:19:40.730 --> 00:19:44.569 way that I will enter into that discussion is if they have a daughter. 278 00:19:44.809 --> 00:19:48.250 And oftentimes you'll find that out hate or what if you have a daughter. 279 00:19:48.650 --> 00:19:52.329 But if you do have a daughter, would you want your daughter to have 280 00:19:52.529 --> 00:19:55.920 sex outside of marriage or do you want her to wait till marriage? They 281 00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:00.079 almost uniformly say that that they would prefer that they wait. Yeah. So 282 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:07.230 so those are just some some if you have probably a bit of time, 283 00:20:07.349 --> 00:20:10.430 more than more than just a few seconds. Right. But and we already 284 00:20:10.430 --> 00:20:15.509 talked about how sex outside of marriage really does harm us. YEA, and 285 00:20:15.630 --> 00:20:22.500 it and it's protective God's commandment that we should be sexually pure. But one 286 00:20:22.539 --> 00:20:25.660 of the things that I encounter a lot, and I think we've discussed this 287 00:20:25.819 --> 00:20:29.500 on other podcast, is people will claim, Oh, I'm a Christian, 288 00:20:29.500 --> 00:20:33.339 I'm a believer, Jesus is Lord of my life. Yeah, and then 289 00:20:33.259 --> 00:20:38.769 well, is he really? If have you submitted every area of your life 290 00:20:38.769 --> 00:20:44.890 if you have not submitted in this area? Right, and I think that 291 00:20:45.210 --> 00:20:48.809 is a really important question to ask them. Yeah, yeah, because again, 292 00:20:48.849 --> 00:20:52.839 there is this kind of fight. There's this kind of back and forth 293 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:55.680 in their minds. When you talk about whether or not six outside of marriage 294 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.240 is right or whether it's wrong. In one breath they'll say, well, 295 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.960 I know it's wrong, and then another breath I'll say it's right and again. 296 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:04.470 At the end of the day, God's standard is what matters and the 297 00:21:04.509 --> 00:21:10.190 standard of society has no bearing on what. When we stand before God, 298 00:21:10.390 --> 00:21:12.109 what we're going to give an account for? Right, that's right, that's 299 00:21:12.109 --> 00:21:15.829 right. So if Jesus is Lord, we're going to obey him in all 300 00:21:15.869 --> 00:21:21.460 areas of our life, and sexual purity is one of those areas. But 301 00:21:21.660 --> 00:21:23.900 what I do encounter, again, I would say most of the time, 302 00:21:25.460 --> 00:21:29.819 is their own parents. Yeah, have been sexually impure outside married, they 303 00:21:29.859 --> 00:21:33.289 are are unmarried, or there's no dad in the picture at all. Their 304 00:21:33.369 --> 00:21:37.250 role models are terrible. That doesn't excuse it, but it helps you to 305 00:21:37.369 --> 00:21:42.210 understand they have never had anyone model. Yeah, what the Bible is saying 306 00:21:42.609 --> 00:21:48.680 is the ideal. Yeah, and so you are working against a culture, 307 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:53.359 and you really are. You need to shift their world view and we obviously 308 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.599 can't do that on our own power. That's a major task. Yeah, 309 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.960 certainly in the few minutes that we might have. But God can do it 310 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.750 and his word can do it and the conviction of his word, and so 311 00:22:03.829 --> 00:22:07.990 that's why it's so important going back to kind of where we started. Know 312 00:22:07.230 --> 00:22:11.950 what the Bible says. Yeah, have those verses ready. I just want 313 00:22:11.990 --> 00:22:15.539 to say that one of the count that the same concert that asked me this 314 00:22:15.660 --> 00:22:19.420 question. Then, after I discussed with her what I do, she said, 315 00:22:19.460 --> 00:22:22.859 you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to make a postcard 316 00:22:22.339 --> 00:22:26.220 with with some of these main points that were raising right now, with some 317 00:22:26.339 --> 00:22:30.329 of these verses, and I'm going to hand it out to women, because 318 00:22:30.849 --> 00:22:34.170 I often don't have the time, but then you've got a hand out that 319 00:22:34.490 --> 00:22:37.210 can speak for you when you know, when you're not there, and I 320 00:22:37.250 --> 00:22:41.809 thought that was a great idea and she actually made a great hand out. 321 00:22:41.049 --> 00:22:45.839 Yeah, for these women. Yeah, yeah, I think having something because 322 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.559 again, like we've talked about, often times what you're doing is planting seeds 323 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:52.759 and water and seeds. Yeah, quite likely, especially here in the south, 324 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.920 when you're talking about sexual morality, you're just reiterating things that they have 325 00:22:56.039 --> 00:23:00.630 already heard in church, they already know right, and reinforcing again with their 326 00:23:00.670 --> 00:23:04.509 conscience already says is right and wrong. You're handing them a piece of literature 327 00:23:06.029 --> 00:23:11.269 again. There's that's more seeds planted or watering other seeds. Yeah, what 328 00:23:11.430 --> 00:23:15.019 a share just a kind of briefly, a situation, a story where I 329 00:23:15.099 --> 00:23:18.740 was talking to a young man. This is we had a young lady that 330 00:23:18.859 --> 00:23:22.059 came here to the abortion center. She came on board the mobiltra sound, 331 00:23:22.099 --> 00:23:26.539 you know, ended up choosing life's awesome story. I mean she was visibly 332 00:23:26.619 --> 00:23:30.490 pregg that. It was a couple years back, and she ended up calling 333 00:23:30.569 --> 00:23:34.170 me up on the phone. She had some situation going on with the boyfriend, 334 00:23:34.210 --> 00:23:37.170 with the father of the baby, and she was like, I want 335 00:23:37.170 --> 00:23:41.319 you to come and just basically set him straight. And of course she needed 336 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:45.000 to be set straight to you because they were having sex outside of marriage. 337 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.160 So one of the female counselors ministered to her. Anyway, Long Story Short, 338 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:52.240 we end up in a restaurant when got the guy, took him out 339 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.079 to eat, just talking to him and kind of got him to share his 340 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:59.950 story and share what's the contention between him and his girlfriend and all this stuff, 341 00:24:00.109 --> 00:24:02.630 like Hey, your dad now, Dude, you need to step it 342 00:24:02.710 --> 00:24:07.589 up, he starts sharing like all these like basically, well, she had 343 00:24:07.670 --> 00:24:10.980 sex with my my friend, and then I so I had sex with her 344 00:24:11.099 --> 00:24:14.299 friends, like all this, like yeah, my Oh gosh. I said, 345 00:24:14.339 --> 00:24:17.660 wait, wait a minute, yeah, one second. You know, 346 00:24:17.779 --> 00:24:22.339 you're human being, like you're not an animal. You don't have to be 347 00:24:22.900 --> 00:24:26.450 given to the whims every time you feel like you need to go and have 348 00:24:26.650 --> 00:24:30.289 sex with someone, like you just have to surrender that God has made you 349 00:24:30.410 --> 00:24:33.730 for so much more. So I started speaking like encouragement. Also rebuked the 350 00:24:33.769 --> 00:24:37.410 guy to like, man, you're a human being, you're not an animal 351 00:24:37.569 --> 00:24:41.799 that's just given to all your passions and lust and stuff. It really speaks 352 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:45.799 to what the word of God says, and the word of God says talking 353 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.160 about the fruits of the spirit. One of those fruits of the spirit is 354 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:53.630 self control. Human beings can have self control, but of course, like 355 00:24:53.750 --> 00:24:57.069 you said, you've got to be born of the spirit. And so of 356 00:24:57.150 --> 00:25:00.750 course I share the go gospel with this young man. He didn't strender his 357 00:25:00.869 --> 00:25:03.869 life to Jesus at that point, but he leaves had an encounter with the 358 00:25:03.990 --> 00:25:07.859 truth and I think his men. We need to encourage the young men that 359 00:25:07.900 --> 00:25:11.619 we encounter at the abortion center, to step it up, to do before 360 00:25:11.700 --> 00:25:15.500 God what they should do, rather than taking advantage of women and dropping him 361 00:25:15.500 --> 00:25:18.779 off at an abortion center. To be a man, yeah, to not 362 00:25:18.900 --> 00:25:22.690 take advantage of women, but protect right, protect women, of course in 363 00:25:22.730 --> 00:25:26.809 children and of course, like you have in this article and we just talked 364 00:25:26.849 --> 00:25:30.970 about, show them the result of their sin. Don't you see? Because 365 00:25:30.009 --> 00:25:34.130 here's he's talking about this, you know he can't trust her, she can't 366 00:25:34.170 --> 00:25:38.640 trust him because of all this sexual immorality going around in their community. Like 367 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.200 Gosh, what a mess. And so able to just clearly lay out to 368 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:47.279 him, don't you see what a mess your life is? Don't you see 369 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.990 what a mess you, following your own passions, the whims of your flesh, 370 00:25:51.029 --> 00:25:53.029 is creating? or You can't even trust your own best friend? You 371 00:25:53.069 --> 00:25:57.029 can't even trust your girlfriend, she can't trust it's just a mess. Yeah, 372 00:25:57.230 --> 00:26:02.109 and I think he was able to see the destruction that comes from disobeying 373 00:26:02.190 --> 00:26:07.460 God's Word and that kind of goes into what we labeled on the article that 374 00:26:07.579 --> 00:26:14.220 we wrote about thought provoking questions, asking questions and finding out, you know, 375 00:26:14.339 --> 00:26:18.220 what what the background is, but then asking those questions that help them 376 00:26:18.339 --> 00:26:22.410 to reassess what caused this mess in a general way. What caused this mess 377 00:26:22.490 --> 00:26:26.730 in your life? They he was able to conclude, I assume that his 378 00:26:26.890 --> 00:26:30.170 mess was caused. He at least had a had a confrontation with that truth, 379 00:26:30.250 --> 00:26:34.200 that's for sure. Yeah, whether or not the Lord changed his life 380 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.960 and he surrendered to God's will in that situation, I hadn't heard back from 381 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.680 him. Yeah, well, and sometimes when seeds I was water, and 382 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.559 that, I think, is key. We are planning seat and then remember, 383 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:52.029 don't be discouraged. You are working against really an entire world view culture 384 00:26:52.190 --> 00:26:56.430 that is so pervasive. It would almost be a miracle if someone said you 385 00:26:56.630 --> 00:27:00.670 are right and I'm never going to have sex aget outside of merit. Yeah, 386 00:27:00.710 --> 00:27:03.019 that would probably not be the norm. And so don't be discouraged. 387 00:27:03.460 --> 00:27:08.740 I do see this area oftentimes, I will still see women submit or people 388 00:27:08.779 --> 00:27:14.420 submit their lives to the Lord, and this area remains a difficult area. 389 00:27:14.779 --> 00:27:19.329 Yeah, but I have seen people grow in in the as they walk with 390 00:27:19.410 --> 00:27:22.769 the Lord and as they come really are convicted more and more by the Lord 391 00:27:22.809 --> 00:27:26.529 to grow in this area. So this I think it's a really hard area 392 00:27:27.049 --> 00:27:33.319 for people to just instantaneously change and to know it might be a process. 393 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.599 It doesn't mean all hope is lost. It doesn't mean that they aren't really 394 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.640 have an encountered God, but that it might be a process of them growing 395 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.549 and understanding the truth of what you're trying to convey. Yeah, absolutely. 396 00:27:45.589 --> 00:27:49.509 Yeah, and I think, listen, let's just be real. You can't 397 00:27:49.509 --> 00:27:52.710 give of what you don't have. Yeah, and so we ourselves. Now 398 00:27:52.750 --> 00:27:56.630 I will say, as you just shared, it would be a miracle if 399 00:27:56.750 --> 00:27:59.539 God took someone out of that. God did that for me. Yeah, 400 00:27:59.819 --> 00:28:03.099 I was a fornicator before I came to know the Lord and certainly after I 401 00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:07.099 came to know the Lord. There were some temptations there and there was some 402 00:28:07.259 --> 00:28:11.740 sexual sin that I fell into. Yeah, not fullblown, you know, 403 00:28:11.819 --> 00:28:15.970 sex outside of marriage, but other sexually immoral things and temptations. I put 404 00:28:17.009 --> 00:28:21.809 myself situations I'll put myself into and by God's grace, he took me out 405 00:28:21.849 --> 00:28:26.200 of that stuff. He grew me in to the process of sanctification. Right, 406 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.839 sanctifying me, making me more like Jesus. But I kind of bring 407 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.480 that around to listen, we can't give what we don't have if we're not 408 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.799 walking in holiness before the Lord. If we're not keeping our eyes, ourselves, 409 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.750 as ministers of the Gospel, pure from sexual immorality, if we're not, 410 00:28:41.869 --> 00:28:47.190 if we're not keeping our hands pure from sexual immorality, then we need 411 00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:49.269 to check our own hearts and may even need to step back. I would 412 00:28:49.269 --> 00:28:52.190 say definitely, if you're involved in sexual immorality, you need to step back 413 00:28:52.670 --> 00:28:56.700 from trying to minister to other people whose problem with sexual immorality and get that 414 00:28:56.819 --> 00:29:03.140 thing right before God. Yeah, confess that sin to someone, a another 415 00:29:03.259 --> 00:29:07.259 man that would hold you accountable, or another woman, if you're a woman, 416 00:29:07.259 --> 00:29:11.049 that would hold you accountable and listen. Could because if you're a believer 417 00:29:12.009 --> 00:29:17.250 in Jesus, this is what this first Corinthians Pass is written to believers to 418 00:29:17.410 --> 00:29:22.329 warn them about the results of sexual immorality. If you fall victim, or 419 00:29:22.250 --> 00:29:25.799 they've all victim, fall prey. I guess that's the same. Yeah, 420 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:30.240 terminology. Give into that temptive, into it and fall into sexual sin. 421 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.680 It doesn't necessarily mean you you lose your salvation and you're longer a Christian, 422 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:41.309 but certainly you set yourself up to being snared by the devil. And I've 423 00:29:41.349 --> 00:29:45.150 seeing people start out really well, serving God, walking with the Lord, 424 00:29:45.190 --> 00:29:48.150 and give themselves to sexual immorality and months later they don't want to have anything 425 00:29:48.190 --> 00:29:52.019 to do with God. Yeah, exactly. Are All sin dark and snowballing, 426 00:29:52.099 --> 00:29:55.740 doesn't it from him from one to into the next. So I say 427 00:29:55.779 --> 00:29:59.019 that just we need to check our own hearts and then, of course, 428 00:29:59.059 --> 00:30:02.819 as we've been cleansed before God, we want to see others cleansed as well. 429 00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:07.059 And I will share my testimony. I've shared my testimony of being a 430 00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:10.009 fornicator and God save me out of that. And if God did it for 431 00:30:10.089 --> 00:30:14.089 me, he can do it for anybody. Yeah, because, man, 432 00:30:14.890 --> 00:30:18.170 I was really steeped in it and he rescued me from it. And to 433 00:30:18.369 --> 00:30:22.359 our testimonies are powerful and how God has rescued us from sexual immorality. Yeah, 434 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.119 which is another great tip, and at the end of this article we 435 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.839 do list a few practical tips. I'll just go for them really fast. 436 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.079 Have handouts with sexual purity scripture. Yeah, talk about the negative effects of 437 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:38.829 promiscuity, stds, whatever, give some of those statistics, offer community alternatives, 438 00:30:38.950 --> 00:30:45.349 to plan parenthood and have handouts on the path to salvation, because ultimately 439 00:30:45.509 --> 00:30:48.589 that is, like you said that that is what is. That's what the 440 00:30:48.710 --> 00:30:52.940 cure is. Yeah, and remember that we're planting seats with all of those 441 00:30:52.940 --> 00:30:56.019 yeah, all those things. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Well, guys, 442 00:30:56.059 --> 00:31:00.059 we hope this episode was a blessing to you. We would encourage you, 443 00:31:00.059 --> 00:31:03.180 guys, to share this episode with others. Maybe you think it would 444 00:31:03.180 --> 00:31:07.769 be an encouragement to someone else that's in sidewalk ministry, or maybe someone that's 445 00:31:07.849 --> 00:31:11.569 not currently involved in sidewalk ministry. Send it out, share it with friends, 446 00:31:11.049 --> 00:31:14.569 reach out to us. Let us know what you think about this podcast 447 00:31:14.609 --> 00:31:17.490 episode. In the other episodes, let us know maybe if there are other 448 00:31:17.569 --> 00:31:19.200 subjects you'd like for us to cover, we'd love to try to cover those 449 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.839 subjects. You could reach me, Daniel, Love Life Dot Org. You 450 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.880 can reach her Vicky I love life dot Org. We'd love to hear from 451 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.680 you, but until next time, God, bless God, bless y'all. 452 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:45.470 Give our love for love, give me our love for gratitude. I know 453 00:31:45.829 --> 00:31:53.819 it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious in some you