How and When to Introduce The Message of Sexual Purity

WEBVTT100:00:00.560 --> 00:00:06.400I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me Lord,200:00:06.919 --> 00:00:12.070I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center300:00:12.189 --> 00:00:17.550Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designedto equip, encourage and challenge you in400:00:17.670 --> 00:00:21.660pro life ministry and always were thefocus on the Gospel. Stay tuned.500:00:23.660 --> 00:00:35.420I felt show passish, touch yourheart. Use Welcome back to the Gospel600:00:35.460 --> 00:00:40.009Center pro life podcast. Appreciate you, guys, joining us and we're going700:00:40.049 --> 00:00:44.689to try to get right into oursubject today, and our subject, as800:00:44.729 --> 00:00:49.530all of our subjects are, isa gospel centered subject or focusing on what900:00:49.649 --> 00:00:53.520the word of God says about thisparticular subject. And of course, it's1000:00:53.560 --> 00:00:56.119in the light of the ministry thatwe're involved in, on the sidewalks at1100:00:56.119 --> 00:01:02.159abortion centers, on these subjects thatwe cover in this podcast are often time1200:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.189subjects that either someone reached out andask hey, how would you handle this,1300:01:04.430 --> 00:01:07.790or things that we personally have encounteredand we thought if we talked through1400:01:07.790 --> 00:01:11.629it, it be a blessing toyou, guys. And the subject today1500:01:11.950 --> 00:01:17.230is going to be the subject ofsexual purity and, in particular, how1600:01:17.310 --> 00:01:23.099to introduce and and talk about thesubject of sexual purity with women, primarily1700:01:23.180 --> 00:01:27.780at the abortion center, but alsomen, and we'll probably give you some1800:01:29.180 --> 00:01:33.450scenarios in which we've encountered this andshared this and we'll talk through again with1900:01:33.530 --> 00:01:38.890the Bible says. So, Vicky, maybe just kind of share what encourage2000:01:38.890 --> 00:01:42.810you to write this article and thenwe'll jump right into some of the scriptures2100:01:42.849 --> 00:01:45.370and some of the things that wehave to cover for this topic. Yeah,2200:01:45.409 --> 00:01:48.319well, right away, we believethat there would be no abortions if2300:01:48.319 --> 00:01:52.159there is no sexual impurity, thatit is sexual sin that leads to abortions.2400:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.959But very specifically, this comes upall the time. It is an2500:01:56.000 --> 00:02:00.280issue all the time, and oneof our counselor's nationally reached out to me2600:02:00.590 --> 00:02:05.950and said, you know, I'mjust I need some help in a a2700:02:06.189 --> 00:02:12.830statement that'll stop someone in their tracksand plant a seat for sexual purity.2800:02:12.870 --> 00:02:17.259Yeah, so I thought this wouldbe a good subject for us to then2900:02:17.580 --> 00:02:22.419help people. How do you broachthe subject if you have a long time3000:02:22.740 --> 00:02:25.340and if you only have a fewseconds? Yeah, because it cannot be3100:02:25.419 --> 00:02:30.569ignored. It absolutely has to beaddressed, I believe, for anyone that3200:02:30.689 --> 00:02:34.530is ministring outside of an abortion center. Yeah, yeah, and so what3300:02:34.650 --> 00:02:37.650you said, I want to reiterate, and we said this before we even3400:02:37.650 --> 00:02:43.050started recording this this podcast, isthat the vast majority of abortions take place3500:02:43.090 --> 00:02:46.759because of sexual immorality, right,sex outside of marriage. Primarily, sometimes3600:02:46.800 --> 00:02:53.360it's adulterous situation where you know someone'smarried to a man and they go and3700:02:53.120 --> 00:03:00.030have an adulterous affair with another man. If sexual immorality was not a thing,3800:03:00.750 --> 00:03:04.710then abortion would likely not be athing. You can go of course3900:03:04.789 --> 00:03:07.030think, well, yeah, somewomen that are married and get pregnant by4000:03:07.069 --> 00:03:10.310their husband have abortions. That doeshappen. But if you look at the4100:03:10.389 --> 00:03:17.099vast majority, and it's in thehot it's in the ninety percent range of4200:03:17.180 --> 00:03:22.740abortions that take place, they takeplace because someone had sex outside of marriage4300:03:23.099 --> 00:03:27.610and got caught up in a situationthey didn't account for. And so though4400:03:27.689 --> 00:03:30.449our primary goal and talking to amom out an abortion center is going to4500:03:30.490 --> 00:03:34.210be talking to her about her babyand trying to convince her not to kill4600:03:34.210 --> 00:03:38.810her baby through abortion, it isappropriate because these women are called up,4700:03:38.849 --> 00:03:40.639just like we were right. Wewere caught up in a cycle of sin4800:03:40.759 --> 00:03:45.319that leads to death. These womenare caught up in that cycle of sin4900:03:45.439 --> 00:03:49.560and death and we want to breakthat cycle. So we've got to address5000:03:49.560 --> 00:03:53.479the things that get her caught upin that cycle. Like she got pregnant5100:03:53.560 --> 00:03:58.750somehow, right, yeah, shegot pregnant quite likely because of sex outside5200:03:58.750 --> 00:04:01.110of marriage. Yeah, that's ultimatelywhat brought her to the abortion center.5300:04:01.750 --> 00:04:04.710And so if we can address that, and it's not just the women going5400:04:04.750 --> 00:04:10.860into the abortion center it's also womenthat we've ministered to who maybe have,5500:04:11.939 --> 00:04:15.939you know, a post abortion story. We've encountered them coming out after they5600:04:15.979 --> 00:04:19.980had the abortion and to the sexualpurity message can be appropriate there for men.5700:04:20.060 --> 00:04:23.740I mean I've literally just to kindof maybe jump the gun a little5800:04:23.899 --> 00:04:26.569bed and go ahead a little bitin this article. I've talked to men5900:04:26.610 --> 00:04:30.250in front of the abortion center weepingtheir eyes out because they didn't want to6000:04:30.410 --> 00:04:31.889their girlfriend to go and have theabortion. They didn't want to actually,6100:04:31.930 --> 00:04:34.930matter of fact, this happened whileI was out in California. Young Man6200:04:35.009 --> 00:04:39.959came walking up to me ask meand the people that are out there please6300:04:40.079 --> 00:04:42.800pray for my girlfriend. I don'twant her to do this. I never,6400:04:43.399 --> 00:04:46.439never wanted to be a part ofan abortion like this and that of6500:04:46.480 --> 00:04:50.319course, his situation was they're notmarried there had they had sex outside of6600:04:50.360 --> 00:04:54.829marriage, got caught up in asituation that didn't account for and so I've6700:04:54.870 --> 00:04:58.149talked to men in that situation.You have to be sensitive, of course.6800:04:58.589 --> 00:05:00.750You don't want to add insul toinjury when you're out there weeping on6900:05:00.790 --> 00:05:03.350the sidewalk and their girlfriends in thereto have an abortion. I don't want7000:05:03.350 --> 00:05:06.899to just hammer him with hey,well, you shouldn't have had sex outside7100:05:06.899 --> 00:05:11.019of marriage, you wicked. Center. Right, I want to be gracious,7200:05:11.060 --> 00:05:13.899but also want to be fourth right, Hey, and I've said this7300:05:14.060 --> 00:05:18.899oftentimes, do you see where sinleads? Yeah, the Bible warns against7400:05:18.899 --> 00:05:23.290sex outside of marriage. Do yousee that? It's not just because God7500:05:23.449 --> 00:05:27.129wants to withhold something from you?Yeah, but it is actually God cares7600:05:27.170 --> 00:05:30.050about you and doesn't want you tobe caught up in situations like this.7700:05:30.290 --> 00:05:34.050That's right, it's his protection.Yeah, and then the third opportunity,7800:05:34.089 --> 00:05:40.319I guess, to be able totalk about sexual purity is for if you're7900:05:40.319 --> 00:05:44.399at a place like a Plant parenthoodthat offers birth control pills. Yeah,8000:05:44.439 --> 00:05:46.199these women there, they may notvery well not be there for an abortion.8100:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.319We hear that all the time.I'm not here for that. I'm8200:05:48.360 --> 00:05:53.829not here for an abortion, butthey are there for birth control pills,8300:05:54.230 --> 00:06:00.910and maybe this is your opportunity toprevent a future abortion right by by addressing8400:06:00.990 --> 00:06:04.819the holy sue of sexual impurity,because our sexual immorality, because most of8500:06:04.899 --> 00:06:10.019the times, again, the womengoing in for the birth control pills are8600:06:10.139 --> 00:06:14.259quite often young, unmarried women.Yeah, and men. So so I8700:06:14.379 --> 00:06:16.540think the first thing that we needto have clear in our heart as well.8800:06:17.019 --> 00:06:20.050It will. Is it bad?It's a bad sex outside of marriage?8900:06:20.250 --> 00:06:24.209Certainly, the culture says it's notbad. He says it's not bad,9000:06:24.329 --> 00:06:27.769movies say it's not bad, thesongs say it's not bad. Yeah,9100:06:27.850 --> 00:06:30.250but what is the Bible say,which is is our of course,9200:06:30.449 --> 00:06:38.040where we go to first for ourmorals and our what is what we should9300:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.800be telling others? Yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah, I mean certainly9400:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.879it should be a personal conviction tous, but not a personal conviction just9500:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.389based on our feelings, but basedon the word of God. So,9600:06:48.550 --> 00:06:51.029yeah, what does the Word ofGod say? We can go right,9700:06:51.189 --> 00:06:55.910we can go all the way backto the first, you know, two9800:06:55.990 --> 00:06:59.750books of the Bible. We cansee what sexual Sindy, even in Genesis,9900:06:59.910 --> 00:07:03.100but in particular I'm thinking of Exodusand Chapter Twenty, the Ten Commandments,10000:07:03.579 --> 00:07:08.220the Seventh Command you shall not commitadultery, right, which includes all10100:07:08.379 --> 00:07:13.180sexual immorality. So there's the clearfoundation there that God is against all sexual10200:07:13.259 --> 00:07:18.610immorality. Any sex outside of marriageis sexual immorality and you know so that's10300:07:18.889 --> 00:07:23.610a clear biblical standard right there.Yeah, but then you've got a few10400:07:23.610 --> 00:07:27.889scriptures that you put out here whichare all great from from the New Testament.10500:07:27.970 --> 00:07:30.240And again this is not just anew testament principle. Sex outside of10600:07:30.279 --> 00:07:34.279marriage is a principle since the verybeginning because God, God, is the10700:07:34.360 --> 00:07:40.000one that created sex. But ofcourse the devil in human beings, in10800:07:40.399 --> 00:07:44.629their willingness to believe the lives ofthe devil, have really perverted this thing,10900:07:44.670 --> 00:07:47.589yeah, that God has created tobe something beautiful inside of marriage.11000:07:47.790 --> 00:07:51.269The devil in human beings have pervertedit. Right, but the New Testament11100:07:51.310 --> 00:07:55.990does address sexual sex outside of marriageseveral times. I'm going to read just11200:07:56.069 --> 00:07:59.180a few passages here. The firstone I'm going to read is in First11300:07:59.180 --> 00:08:03.699Corinthians, chapter six and verse Eighteen, where it says flee from sexual immorality.11400:08:03.740 --> 00:08:07.139Every other sin a person commits isoutside the body, but the sexually11500:08:07.180 --> 00:08:13.889immoral person sends against his own body. The principle in this particular passage of11600:08:13.930 --> 00:08:16.730scripture, I mean you can getinto death, we could read the whole11700:08:16.810 --> 00:08:22.009context of it, but really theprinciple kind of remains true through the whole11800:08:22.569 --> 00:08:26.480Bible. Really and why God isagainst sexual immorality, not just because,11900:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.839you know, he's grossed out byit or whatever, but it really has12000:08:31.039 --> 00:08:37.120to do with God's concerning care forhuman beings. God cares for us a12100:08:37.159 --> 00:08:39.480lot of times. I'll say I'llsay it on the microphone, I'll say12200:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.509it in one on one conversations,is that when God sets up his standard,12300:08:43.549 --> 00:08:48.230and in particular the standard of youshall not commit a Adultri or have12400:08:48.350 --> 00:08:52.350sex outside of marriage, that's standard. We could view that standard one of12500:08:52.470 --> 00:08:56.659two ways. We could view itas kind of a gate to keep us12600:08:56.659 --> 00:09:00.860out of out of enjoying like abeautiful pasture, that God wants to keep12700:09:00.860 --> 00:09:05.419us away from this beautiful place wherewe could go and have fun and enjoy12800:09:05.500 --> 00:09:07.899life. We can view it likethat, yeah, or kind of like12900:09:07.139 --> 00:09:11.049a boundary that God says you can'tgo because, after all, if you13000:09:11.090 --> 00:09:13.129went past that boundary you would enjoylife, and so God wants to hold13100:09:13.129 --> 00:09:16.570something back from you. We canview it like that or we can view13200:09:16.570 --> 00:09:20.490it, I think, more accuratelyor in contrast to that, which is13300:09:20.529 --> 00:09:24.250not accurate at all. God's nottrying to just keep something from us.13400:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.080You can view it, I think, biblically, which is like a guard13500:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.360rail on a mountain road. Right, you're driving the mountain road. Many13600:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.120of you guys know exactly what I'mtalking about. You see those guard rails.13700:09:33.440 --> 00:09:35.799If you were to look over theedge, you would see there's a13800:09:35.960 --> 00:09:41.110there's a quite a fall that youwould have if you went past that guard13900:09:41.110 --> 00:09:45.549rail. That guard rail is notthere to keep you from enjoying your flight.14000:09:46.110 --> 00:09:48.909I want to fly, and sothat guard reels hold me back from14100:09:48.909 --> 00:09:52.299flying. That guard rail is tokeep you from a heap of destruction at14200:09:52.299 --> 00:09:56.059the bottom of that mountain. Andthat's what God's Word is. That's what14300:09:56.259 --> 00:10:01.299the Law of God is. It'sto keep you from destruction, right,14400:10:01.580 --> 00:10:05.299and that's what this is talking aboutin this first Corinthians chapter six passage,14500:10:05.460 --> 00:10:09.210and I think it's also interesting inthat passage that it compares sexual sin with14600:10:09.330 --> 00:10:15.049other sins. Yeah, and andthat there is something specially dangerous, yeah,14700:10:15.049 --> 00:10:18.850about sexual sin. It's what thiswould indicate. Yeah, absolutely.14800:10:18.129 --> 00:10:20.919And again, if you look throughoutthe Old Testament, you look at I14900:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.120mean I think of a man likeDavid King, David, who was a15000:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.639prophet, a priest, a manafter God's own heart. And yet what15100:10:28.840 --> 00:10:33.720was his demise? It was sexualsin. Right, and again, God15200:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.710wants us to be warned of theconsequences of sexual sin because of the destruction15300:10:37.789 --> 00:10:43.350that comes from it. Things likeabortion, like sexually transmitted diseases, like15400:10:43.629 --> 00:10:50.179the destruction of relationships, those thingsare the result of sexual sin. And15500:10:50.419 --> 00:10:56.700he says here this sin is againstyour own body. Yeah, against your15600:10:56.700 --> 00:11:00.620own body. So it does destructionto you and to your own body in15700:11:00.740 --> 00:11:03.740so many ways. The next passage, and again you've got a couple of15800:11:03.779 --> 00:11:07.090passages here which I think guys getahold of this article and read all these15900:11:07.129 --> 00:11:11.090passages be familiar with these, butthat he brews chapter thirteen, verse for16000:11:11.370 --> 00:11:16.409passage, and says let marriage beheld an honor among all man. That's16100:11:16.450 --> 00:11:20.679a rebuke to our our modern daythat marriage is not held an honor right.16200:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.559Let Marriage be held an honor amongall. Let the marriage bed be16300:11:24.639 --> 00:11:30.960undefiled, for God will judge thesexually immoral and adulterous. And here's where16400:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.870it comes to like like. Yes, God is a just judge, God16500:11:33.950 --> 00:11:39.230does have a standard and that standardis for our good. But God,16600:11:39.309 --> 00:11:41.750as a creator, has a rightto say what is good and what is16700:11:41.789 --> 00:11:48.100right, for our good, butalso because he says so in the Bible16800:11:48.179 --> 00:11:52.500tells us very clearly. Go yougo on into revelation, Chapter Twenty one,16900:11:52.539 --> 00:11:56.299Verse Eight, where it talks aboutthat these people that will in not17000:11:56.419 --> 00:12:00.299inherit the Kingdom of God but willbe put into the lake of fire,17100:12:00.340 --> 00:12:05.889or sexual immoral people. Of courseit talks about idolatres and it talks about17200:12:05.929 --> 00:12:09.570cowards and it talks about liars,but the sexual immoral are there too,17300:12:09.649 --> 00:12:13.850and in First Corinthians, I believe, in that same passage in First Corinthians,17400:12:13.370 --> 00:12:16.159chapter six, I think it's firstnine, where it says that the17500:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.840sexually immoral will not inherit the Kingdomof God, and in the passage in17600:12:20.440 --> 00:12:24.919as a Glacian, chapter six,where Paul Talks about those who will not17700:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.960inherit the Kingdom of God and hetalks about shares, about the fruits of17800:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.750the spirit. After this passage,right before this passage, he talks about17900:12:31.750 --> 00:12:35.909the spirit wars against the flesh andthe deeds of the flesh are evident.18000:12:35.909 --> 00:12:39.470And he talks about sexual immorality.It's woven through the whole New Testament that18100:12:39.629 --> 00:12:43.830sexual immorality is something that God isnot okay with and does not approve of,18200:12:43.419 --> 00:12:48.299that we should oppose. And ifwe care about people that are in18300:12:48.419 --> 00:12:52.179sexual immorality, because we don't wantthem to be judged by God, we18400:12:52.299 --> 00:12:56.179need to warn them about this rightand I mean you can do it.18500:12:56.419 --> 00:12:58.809You can, you can hold upa sign that says Turner Burn. I18600:12:58.889 --> 00:13:05.049guess God could use that. ButI think in these situations it's more appropriate18700:13:05.129 --> 00:13:09.570for us to address these situations forthrightly but with grace and have a conversation,18800:13:09.690 --> 00:13:13.080especially with the woman who in abroken situation. To just tell her18900:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.440turn or burn is probably not goingto be the best way to approach it19000:13:16.519 --> 00:13:20.120right. But I do think weneed to issue warnings as it pertains this19100:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.440sexual and morality, not just it'sa bad idea for you. It might19200:13:24.519 --> 00:13:28.190just affect your body it leads tothings like abortion. We can certainly mention19300:13:28.350 --> 00:13:31.750those things, but I think wealso need to warn them of the fact19400:13:31.750 --> 00:13:35.070that they're going to stand before Godand give an account. Yeah, give19500:13:35.070 --> 00:13:39.429them the biblical warning and for also, quite often, if they're in front19600:13:39.429 --> 00:13:43.659of an abortion center, they arethey're not happy, not at peace.19700:13:43.820 --> 00:13:46.860No, they know that their choiceshave led them to a place they don't19800:13:46.860 --> 00:13:48.860want to be. So they areopen maybe to that message. And I19900:13:50.019 --> 00:13:56.129will often say, well, wheredid your desire to have sex out side20000:13:56.169 --> 00:13:58.370of marriage lead you? Was itto a place that you wanted to be?20100:13:58.850 --> 00:14:03.970Was this relationship where you wanted itto be? In quite often the20200:14:03.169 --> 00:14:07.490the man, is the one urgingthe abortion and they're able to see.20300:14:07.649 --> 00:14:11.519Well, honestly, sex outside ofmarriage really did harm them. They are20400:14:11.600 --> 00:14:16.679able to see maybe better than whenthings are going great and they're not standing20500:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.559in front of an abortion center.Yeah, but one of the main struggles,20600:14:20.679 --> 00:14:26.190I think, is what we alludedto earlier. Cultural norms and oppose20700:14:26.230 --> 00:14:31.269us. I mean it is everywhere. The the joy of sex out side20800:14:31.309 --> 00:14:33.830of marriage with none of the consequence, right, none of the fall out.20900:14:35.029 --> 00:14:39.820Yeah, none of the destruction.And because of that you often have21000:14:39.899 --> 00:14:46.100an upward battle in trying to presentto them that this is this is not21100:14:46.299 --> 00:14:50.980good. Yeah, I mean,strangely, even in the Christian Christian culture21200:14:52.179 --> 00:14:56.929of America, it's like sex outsideof marriage is the norm. It's almost21300:14:56.929 --> 00:15:01.490like you're speaking a foreign language whenyou you say things like fornication is sin,21400:15:01.850 --> 00:15:05.169and even the word fornication. Iactually use the word fornication. Yeah,21500:15:05.730 --> 00:15:09.799it's a maybe, I don't know, an old school word or whatever,21600:15:09.960 --> 00:15:11.679whatever you want to call it's abiblical word, right, and it21700:15:11.759 --> 00:15:16.480has certain connotations to it and ifI use the word fornication I'll always explain21800:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.429what that means. Fornication is anysex outside of marriage, Ye, outside21900:15:20.429 --> 00:15:24.269of the covenant of marriage. Butyeah, fornication is even like a foreign22000:15:24.350 --> 00:15:28.269term to even to a lot ofmodern Christians. Yeah, this idea that22100:15:28.429 --> 00:15:33.710secks outside of marriage somehow is notGod's will for us. I mean it's22200:15:33.789 --> 00:15:41.059again, it's a common biblical realityand for our society and even, unfortunately,22300:15:41.100 --> 00:15:43.299for some of the church, it'sa foreign concept to say that sex22400:15:43.379 --> 00:15:46.299outside of marriage is sin, thatit's wrong. Yeah, so I have22500:15:46.620 --> 00:15:54.129often found, as I am sharingthe truth about sexual purity and that sex22600:15:54.210 --> 00:16:02.289outside of marriage is a sin.Usually the women are surprised. I mean,22700:16:02.450 --> 00:16:06.360on one level they're not when Iwhen I say do you think God22800:16:06.519 --> 00:16:14.480approved of sex outside of marriage,they will sometimes say no, he really22900:16:14.559 --> 00:16:19.789doesn't, but sometimes they are surprised, which always surprises me. Yeah,23000:16:21.110 --> 00:16:25.710but but so how do we,how do we broach that subject? That23100:16:25.990 --> 00:16:33.179is probably one of the most commonquestions I get regarding this from fellow counselors.23200:16:33.259 --> 00:16:36.980How how do you bring it upin in the first place, and23300:16:37.539 --> 00:16:41.940maybe you could share how you do, how I do quite often is I'm23400:16:41.139 --> 00:16:47.059sharing the Gospel. Yeah, andI'm sharing ray comforts, kind of framework23500:16:47.100 --> 00:16:49.250for the Gospel. And when Iask them, are you going to heaven23600:16:49.250 --> 00:16:52.009and Hell? And then I gothrough a list of sins to show them,23700:16:52.049 --> 00:16:55.049hey, you're really not the goodperson you thought you were. And23800:16:55.210 --> 00:16:59.529one of those is always have youever lusted after someone that you're not married23900:16:59.649 --> 00:17:03.200to? And they almost always,of course, say yes. And then24000:17:03.559 --> 00:17:10.759I'll say, well, the Biblecalls that adult tree and it's very serious.24100:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.119And why? Why do you thinkit's serious? and well, that's24200:17:14.200 --> 00:17:18.470how I get into the subject.And then I'll point out verses that some24300:17:18.589 --> 00:17:22.190of them that we've already listed.YEA, and from there we can we'll24400:17:22.230 --> 00:17:25.789get into the this is now,again, if you have an extended amount24500:17:25.829 --> 00:17:30.740of time, right when when youhave to speak with them. But often24600:17:30.940 --> 00:17:34.859that's how I begin that that discussion. Yeah, yeah, of times I'll24700:17:34.859 --> 00:17:38.460begin the discussion and I do talkto women at the abortion center and I24800:17:38.539 --> 00:17:41.980will mention this subject. I'm probablynot going to get as in depth with24900:17:42.140 --> 00:17:48.049a woman as you would right,but with the men I'll kind of approach25000:17:48.130 --> 00:17:51.849the subject just like I explained earlier. If he's there on the sidewalk,25100:17:52.089 --> 00:17:55.930and a lot of times these guysare weeping, they're broken. Sometimes it's25200:17:55.970 --> 00:18:00.039crocodile tears and they're just really feelingguilty and they probably are the one that25300:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.319brought her there by. But Ihaven't had men like balling their eyes out25400:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.920hoping that she would come out ofthere and not have the abortion. And25500:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.599so I will introduce the subject ofsexual purity by saying something to the effect25600:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.349of you, do you see wheresexual sin leads? I might ask the25700:18:15.430 --> 00:18:21.509question like you do. What doyou think God thinks about sex outside of25800:18:21.589 --> 00:18:25.829marriage? And most people, ifthey mean listen, we all have a25900:18:25.910 --> 00:18:29.059conscience, we all know right fromwrong. We all know that sexual sin26000:18:29.220 --> 00:18:33.299is wrong. We know that it'swrong. Society has taught us otherwise and26100:18:33.380 --> 00:18:37.579we believe the lives of society forthe most part, but we all know26200:18:37.619 --> 00:18:41.259it's wrong. So most men willreply, well, I know it's wrong,26300:18:41.730 --> 00:18:45.450but something like everybody's doing it.It's just what you do, right.26400:18:45.730 --> 00:18:49.490And so I'll continue in the conversationand talking about well, if you26500:18:49.569 --> 00:18:52.809wouldn't have had sex outside of marriage, would you be here in the situation26600:18:52.970 --> 00:18:56.759that you're in? Do you seethat God's word, even though maybe you26700:18:56.799 --> 00:19:00.079don't agree with the Bible, doyou see that God's word and what God26800:19:00.240 --> 00:19:04.319set forth is the best? Yeah, and I might even get, I've26900:19:04.359 --> 00:19:10.910gotten into some even like statistical conversationsabout God's ways being the best ways.27000:19:10.950 --> 00:19:17.789Even sociologist and psychologist and all thesepeople would agree that the best context for27100:19:17.869 --> 00:19:22.150a child to be raised in istwo parents that are married, two parents27200:19:22.109 --> 00:19:26.539the MOM and the dad. Evenhave to be specific in this day and27300:19:26.579 --> 00:19:29.859age about that. Yeah, thetwo parents are a mom and the dad,27400:19:30.180 --> 00:19:33.619for them to be married and tostay married is the best context for27500:19:33.660 --> 00:19:36.500a child to be raised in God'sways are the best ways, and so27600:19:36.579 --> 00:19:40.529I'll have the conversation along those lines. Yeah, those are good. Another27700:19:40.730 --> 00:19:44.569way that I will enter into thatdiscussion is if they have a daughter.27800:19:44.809 --> 00:19:48.250And oftentimes you'll find that out hateor what if you have a daughter.27900:19:48.650 --> 00:19:52.329But if you do have a daughter, would you want your daughter to have28000:19:52.529 --> 00:19:55.920sex outside of marriage or do youwant her to wait till marriage? They28100:19:55.960 --> 00:20:00.079almost uniformly say that that they wouldprefer that they wait. Yeah. So28200:20:00.160 --> 00:20:07.230so those are just some some ifyou have probably a bit of time,28300:20:07.349 --> 00:20:10.430more than more than just a fewseconds. Right. But and we already28400:20:10.430 --> 00:20:15.509talked about how sex outside of marriagereally does harm us. YEA, and28500:20:15.630 --> 00:20:22.500it and it's protective God's commandment thatwe should be sexually pure. But one28600:20:22.539 --> 00:20:25.660of the things that I encounter alot, and I think we've discussed this28700:20:25.819 --> 00:20:29.500on other podcast, is people willclaim, Oh, I'm a Christian,28800:20:29.500 --> 00:20:33.339I'm a believer, Jesus is Lordof my life. Yeah, and then28900:20:33.259 --> 00:20:38.769well, is he really? Ifhave you submitted every area of your life29000:20:38.769 --> 00:20:44.890if you have not submitted in thisarea? Right, and I think that29100:20:45.210 --> 00:20:48.809is a really important question to askthem. Yeah, yeah, because again,29200:20:48.849 --> 00:20:52.839there is this kind of fight.There's this kind of back and forth29300:20:52.880 --> 00:20:55.680in their minds. When you talkabout whether or not six outside of marriage29400:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.240is right or whether it's wrong.In one breath they'll say, well,29500:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.960I know it's wrong, and thenanother breath I'll say it's right and again.29600:21:00.960 --> 00:21:04.470At the end of the day,God's standard is what matters and the29700:21:04.509 --> 00:21:10.190standard of society has no bearing onwhat. When we stand before God,29800:21:10.390 --> 00:21:12.109what we're going to give an accountfor? Right, that's right, that's29900:21:12.109 --> 00:21:15.829right. So if Jesus is Lord, we're going to obey him in all30000:21:15.869 --> 00:21:21.460areas of our life, and sexualpurity is one of those areas. But30100:21:21.660 --> 00:21:23.900what I do encounter, again,I would say most of the time,30200:21:25.460 --> 00:21:29.819is their own parents. Yeah,have been sexually impure outside married, they30300:21:29.859 --> 00:21:33.289are are unmarried, or there's nodad in the picture at all. Their30400:21:33.369 --> 00:21:37.250role models are terrible. That doesn'texcuse it, but it helps you to30500:21:37.369 --> 00:21:42.210understand they have never had anyone model. Yeah, what the Bible is saying30600:21:42.609 --> 00:21:48.680is the ideal. Yeah, andso you are working against a culture,30700:21:48.720 --> 00:21:53.359and you really are. You needto shift their world view and we obviously30800:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.599can't do that on our own power. That's a major task. Yeah,30900:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.960certainly in the few minutes that wemight have. But God can do it31000:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.750and his word can do it andthe conviction of his word, and so31100:22:03.829 --> 00:22:07.990that's why it's so important going backto kind of where we started. Know31200:22:07.230 --> 00:22:11.950what the Bible says. Yeah,have those verses ready. I just want31300:22:11.990 --> 00:22:15.539to say that one of the countthat the same concert that asked me this31400:22:15.660 --> 00:22:19.420question. Then, after I discussedwith her what I do, she said,31500:22:19.460 --> 00:22:22.859you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to make a postcard31600:22:22.339 --> 00:22:26.220with with some of these main pointsthat were raising right now, with some31700:22:26.339 --> 00:22:30.329of these verses, and I'm goingto hand it out to women, because31800:22:30.849 --> 00:22:34.170I often don't have the time,but then you've got a hand out that31900:22:34.490 --> 00:22:37.210can speak for you when you know, when you're not there, and I32000:22:37.250 --> 00:22:41.809thought that was a great idea andshe actually made a great hand out.32100:22:41.049 --> 00:22:45.839Yeah, for these women. Yeah, yeah, I think having something because32200:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.559again, like we've talked about,often times what you're doing is planting seeds32300:22:48.599 --> 00:22:52.759and water and seeds. Yeah,quite likely, especially here in the south,32400:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.920when you're talking about sexual morality,you're just reiterating things that they have32500:22:56.039 --> 00:23:00.630already heard in church, they alreadyknow right, and reinforcing again with their32600:23:00.670 --> 00:23:04.509conscience already says is right and wrong. You're handing them a piece of literature32700:23:06.029 --> 00:23:11.269again. There's that's more seeds plantedor watering other seeds. Yeah, what32800:23:11.430 --> 00:23:15.019a share just a kind of briefly, a situation, a story where I32900:23:15.099 --> 00:23:18.740was talking to a young man.This is we had a young lady that33000:23:18.859 --> 00:23:22.059came here to the abortion center.She came on board the mobiltra sound,33100:23:22.099 --> 00:23:26.539you know, ended up choosing life'sawesome story. I mean she was visibly33200:23:26.619 --> 00:23:30.490pregg that. It was a coupleyears back, and she ended up calling33300:23:30.569 --> 00:23:34.170me up on the phone. Shehad some situation going on with the boyfriend,33400:23:34.210 --> 00:23:37.170with the father of the baby,and she was like, I want33500:23:37.170 --> 00:23:41.319you to come and just basically sethim straight. And of course she needed33600:23:41.319 --> 00:23:45.000to be set straight to you becausethey were having sex outside of marriage.33700:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.160So one of the female counselors ministeredto her. Anyway, Long Story Short,33800:23:48.240 --> 00:23:52.240we end up in a restaurant whengot the guy, took him out33900:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.079to eat, just talking to himand kind of got him to share his34000:23:55.240 --> 00:23:59.950story and share what's the contention betweenhim and his girlfriend and all this stuff,34100:24:00.109 --> 00:24:02.630like Hey, your dad now,Dude, you need to step it34200:24:02.710 --> 00:24:07.589up, he starts sharing like allthese like basically, well, she had34300:24:07.670 --> 00:24:10.980sex with my my friend, andthen I so I had sex with her34400:24:11.099 --> 00:24:14.299friends, like all this, likeyeah, my Oh gosh. I said,34500:24:14.339 --> 00:24:17.660wait, wait a minute, yeah, one second. You know,34600:24:17.779 --> 00:24:22.339you're human being, like you're notan animal. You don't have to be34700:24:22.900 --> 00:24:26.450given to the whims every time youfeel like you need to go and have34800:24:26.650 --> 00:24:30.289sex with someone, like you justhave to surrender that God has made you34900:24:30.410 --> 00:24:33.730for so much more. So Istarted speaking like encouragement. Also rebuked the35000:24:33.769 --> 00:24:37.410guy to like, man, you'rea human being, you're not an animal35100:24:37.569 --> 00:24:41.799that's just given to all your passionsand lust and stuff. It really speaks35200:24:41.839 --> 00:24:45.799to what the word of God says, and the word of God says talking35300:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.160about the fruits of the spirit.One of those fruits of the spirit is35400:24:48.359 --> 00:24:53.630self control. Human beings can haveself control, but of course, like35500:24:53.750 --> 00:24:57.069you said, you've got to beborn of the spirit. And so of35600:24:57.150 --> 00:25:00.750course I share the go gospel withthis young man. He didn't strender his35700:25:00.869 --> 00:25:03.869life to Jesus at that point,but he leaves had an encounter with the35800:25:03.990 --> 00:25:07.859truth and I think his men.We need to encourage the young men that35900:25:07.900 --> 00:25:11.619we encounter at the abortion center,to step it up, to do before36000:25:11.700 --> 00:25:15.500God what they should do, ratherthan taking advantage of women and dropping him36100:25:15.500 --> 00:25:18.779off at an abortion center. Tobe a man, yeah, to not36200:25:18.900 --> 00:25:22.690take advantage of women, but protectright, protect women, of course in36300:25:22.730 --> 00:25:26.809children and of course, like youhave in this article and we just talked36400:25:26.849 --> 00:25:30.970about, show them the result oftheir sin. Don't you see? Because36500:25:30.009 --> 00:25:34.130here's he's talking about this, youknow he can't trust her, she can't36600:25:34.170 --> 00:25:38.640trust him because of all this sexualimmorality going around in their community. Like36700:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.200Gosh, what a mess. Andso able to just clearly lay out to36800:25:42.240 --> 00:25:47.279him, don't you see what amess your life is? Don't you see36900:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.990what a mess you, following yourown passions, the whims of your flesh,37000:25:51.029 --> 00:25:53.029is creating? or You can't eventrust your own best friend? You37100:25:53.069 --> 00:25:57.029can't even trust your girlfriend, shecan't trust it's just a mess. Yeah,37200:25:57.230 --> 00:26:02.109and I think he was able tosee the destruction that comes from disobeying37300:26:02.190 --> 00:26:07.460God's Word and that kind of goesinto what we labeled on the article that37400:26:07.579 --> 00:26:14.220we wrote about thought provoking questions,asking questions and finding out, you know,37500:26:14.339 --> 00:26:18.220what what the background is, butthen asking those questions that help them37600:26:18.339 --> 00:26:22.410to reassess what caused this mess ina general way. What caused this mess37700:26:22.490 --> 00:26:26.730in your life? They he wasable to conclude, I assume that his37800:26:26.890 --> 00:26:30.170mess was caused. He at leasthad a had a confrontation with that truth,37900:26:30.250 --> 00:26:34.200that's for sure. Yeah, whetheror not the Lord changed his life38000:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.960and he surrendered to God's will inthat situation, I hadn't heard back from38100:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.680him. Yeah, well, andsometimes when seeds I was water, and38200:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.559that, I think, is key. We are planning seat and then remember,38300:26:45.599 --> 00:26:52.029don't be discouraged. You are workingagainst really an entire world view culture38400:26:52.190 --> 00:26:56.430that is so pervasive. It wouldalmost be a miracle if someone said you38500:26:56.630 --> 00:27:00.670are right and I'm never going tohave sex aget outside of merit. Yeah,38600:27:00.710 --> 00:27:03.019that would probably not be the norm. And so don't be discouraged.38700:27:03.460 --> 00:27:08.740I do see this area oftentimes,I will still see women submit or people38800:27:08.779 --> 00:27:14.420submit their lives to the Lord,and this area remains a difficult area.38900:27:14.779 --> 00:27:19.329Yeah, but I have seen peoplegrow in in the as they walk with39000:27:19.410 --> 00:27:22.769the Lord and as they come reallyare convicted more and more by the Lord39100:27:22.809 --> 00:27:26.529to grow in this area. Sothis I think it's a really hard area39200:27:27.049 --> 00:27:33.319for people to just instantaneously change andto know it might be a process.39300:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.599It doesn't mean all hope is lost. It doesn't mean that they aren't really39400:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.640have an encountered God, but thatit might be a process of them growing39500:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.549and understanding the truth of what you'retrying to convey. Yeah, absolutely.39600:27:45.589 --> 00:27:49.509Yeah, and I think, listen, let's just be real. You can't39700:27:49.509 --> 00:27:52.710give of what you don't have.Yeah, and so we ourselves. Now39800:27:52.750 --> 00:27:56.630I will say, as you justshared, it would be a miracle if39900:27:56.750 --> 00:27:59.539God took someone out of that.God did that for me. Yeah,40000:27:59.819 --> 00:28:03.099I was a fornicator before I cameto know the Lord and certainly after I40100:28:03.180 --> 00:28:07.099came to know the Lord. Therewere some temptations there and there was some40200:28:07.259 --> 00:28:11.740sexual sin that I fell into.Yeah, not fullblown, you know,40300:28:11.819 --> 00:28:15.970sex outside of marriage, but othersexually immoral things and temptations. I put40400:28:17.009 --> 00:28:21.809myself situations I'll put myself into andby God's grace, he took me out40500:28:21.849 --> 00:28:26.200of that stuff. He grew mein to the process of sanctification. Right,40600:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.839sanctifying me, making me more likeJesus. But I kind of bring40700:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.480that around to listen, we can'tgive what we don't have if we're not40800:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.799walking in holiness before the Lord.If we're not keeping our eyes, ourselves,40900:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.750as ministers of the Gospel, purefrom sexual immorality, if we're not,41000:28:41.869 --> 00:28:47.190if we're not keeping our hands purefrom sexual immorality, then we need41100:28:47.269 --> 00:28:49.269to check our own hearts and mayeven need to step back. I would41200:28:49.269 --> 00:28:52.190say definitely, if you're involved insexual immorality, you need to step back41300:28:52.670 --> 00:28:56.700from trying to minister to other peoplewhose problem with sexual immorality and get that41400:28:56.819 --> 00:29:03.140thing right before God. Yeah,confess that sin to someone, a another41500:29:03.259 --> 00:29:07.259man that would hold you accountable,or another woman, if you're a woman,41600:29:07.259 --> 00:29:11.049that would hold you accountable and listen. Could because if you're a believer41700:29:12.009 --> 00:29:17.250in Jesus, this is what thisfirst Corinthians Pass is written to believers to41800:29:17.410 --> 00:29:22.329warn them about the results of sexualimmorality. If you fall victim, or41900:29:22.250 --> 00:29:25.799they've all victim, fall prey.I guess that's the same. Yeah,42000:29:25.960 --> 00:29:30.240terminology. Give into that temptive,into it and fall into sexual sin.42100:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.680It doesn't necessarily mean you you loseyour salvation and you're longer a Christian,42200:29:34.960 --> 00:29:41.309but certainly you set yourself up tobeing snared by the devil. And I've42300:29:41.349 --> 00:29:45.150seeing people start out really well,serving God, walking with the Lord,42400:29:45.190 --> 00:29:48.150and give themselves to sexual immorality andmonths later they don't want to have anything42500:29:48.190 --> 00:29:52.019to do with God. Yeah,exactly. Are All sin dark and snowballing,42600:29:52.099 --> 00:29:55.740doesn't it from him from one tointo the next. So I say42700:29:55.779 --> 00:29:59.019that just we need to check ourown hearts and then, of course,42800:29:59.059 --> 00:30:02.819as we've been cleansed before God,we want to see others cleansed as well.42900:30:03.500 --> 00:30:07.059And I will share my testimony.I've shared my testimony of being a43000:30:07.170 --> 00:30:10.009fornicator and God save me out ofthat. And if God did it for43100:30:10.089 --> 00:30:14.089me, he can do it foranybody. Yeah, because, man,43200:30:14.890 --> 00:30:18.170I was really steeped in it andhe rescued me from it. And to43300:30:18.369 --> 00:30:22.359our testimonies are powerful and how Godhas rescued us from sexual immorality. Yeah,43400:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.119which is another great tip, andat the end of this article we43500:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.839do list a few practical tips.I'll just go for them really fast.43600:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.079Have handouts with sexual purity scripture.Yeah, talk about the negative effects of43700:30:33.119 --> 00:30:38.829promiscuity, stds, whatever, givesome of those statistics, offer community alternatives,43800:30:38.950 --> 00:30:45.349to plan parenthood and have handouts onthe path to salvation, because ultimately43900:30:45.509 --> 00:30:48.589that is, like you said thatthat is what is. That's what the44000:30:48.710 --> 00:30:52.940cure is. Yeah, and rememberthat we're planting seats with all of those44100:30:52.940 --> 00:30:56.019yeah, all those things. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Well, guys,44200:30:56.059 --> 00:31:00.059we hope this episode was a blessingto you. We would encourage you,44300:31:00.059 --> 00:31:03.180guys, to share this episode withothers. Maybe you think it would44400:31:03.180 --> 00:31:07.769be an encouragement to someone else that'sin sidewalk ministry, or maybe someone that's44500:31:07.849 --> 00:31:11.569not currently involved in sidewalk ministry.Send it out, share it with friends,44600:31:11.049 --> 00:31:14.569reach out to us. Let usknow what you think about this podcast44700:31:14.609 --> 00:31:17.490episode. In the other episodes,let us know maybe if there are other44800:31:17.569 --> 00:31:19.200subjects you'd like for us to cover, we'd love to try to cover those44900:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.839subjects. You could reach me,Daniel, Love Life Dot Org. You45000:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.880can reach her Vicky I love lifedot Org. We'd love to hear from45100:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.680you, but until next time,God, bless God, bless y'all.45200:31:32.240 --> 00:31:45.470Give our love for love, giveme our love for gratitude. I know45300:31:45.829 --> 00:31:53.819it will cost me my life.Nothing's too precious in some you