Helping Abortion-minded Women Trust the Lord - Part 1

0:00 I am yours. I am yours. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast and this episode we're going to talk about trust. When we encounter an abortion minded woman, she has put her trust in abortion. It's our job to help her take that trust out of abortion and put it in the Lord. But how do we, as pro life ministers, do that? We believe the scripture has a lot to say about this, so stick with us. I felt show passis touch your welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. WHO This podcast is a blessing to you. We're going to talk about trust today. It's an important issue and of course we're going to talk about it and lie of the ministry that we're involved in on a regular basis, which is sidewall counseling. But I think this, this rings true and the things we're going to talk about ring true. And really, any ministry be involved in, when you're dealing with abortion minded women and people just in difficult situations, trust is always an issue, right. I mean whether you're talking about again abortion, mind of women or even just marital issues and mom and dad to their kids, kind of issues, any issue, trust is a big deal and in the scripture it's also an important deal. Right, there's all kinds of scripture. We're going to get into some of those that talk about trust, but let me kind of set the stage where what we're talking about, because again we're primarily talking about in a sidewalk counseling realm or maybe

1:33 even in a pregnancy center or some other kind of prolife ministry, is we're talking about the trust, and this is kind of what we come up against, that a woman has in abortion, in the abortion industry, and what I mean by that is that she's put a certain level of trust in abortion to fix her situation right, and she's trusting abortion to make the relationship with her boyfriend better or husband better, to calm the storm that's going on in her life. She's put her trust in abortion and thereby put her trust in the abortion industry. Right. That seems to be that's what's going to change her life and make it all right again. Yeah, it's what we've got to do, and this is a dynamic that I thought would be a blessing to you guys to understand, is we've got to try, as sidewalk counselors, as prolife pregnancy center counselors. We've got to try to counsel these women and to take in that investment, if you will, of trust out of the abortion clinic, out of the abortion industry, out of abortion, and put that trust in, you know, in us, but really in the Lord. Right. Basically we're trying to gain their trust. Right, if they did it, because if they don't put their trust initially in us over the abortion center, there's no reason to listen to us. No one listens to someone they don't trust. Yeah, so our goal is, of course, to transfer that trust ultimately to God, but first of all they they

3:04 have to feel they will trust us enough to hear what we have to say. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So what are some of the challenges than that we're dealing with? We're coming up against some challenges and we're at a pretty grave disadvantage, especially standing in front of an abortion clinic. Yeah, we really are coming to the abortion center, right, right. What are some of the challenge? Yeah, well, I looked on the website of our local, very busy abortion center and here is the first big challenge. So these women don't go looking for sidewalk counselors that can write, that can give them an another, you know, different option other than we're not coming to the abortion clinic because they're hoping to sidewall counselor will be there right right.

3:47 Have had people come because they knew they knew that the mobile unit would be there. They knew it would be would be out there right right. We praise God for that. But primarily they're not coming to the abortion clinic because they want to encounter us right, coming for abortion, right exactly. And and so so let's look at how the abortion center first of all presents themselves. Ye, to because in order to gain gain their trusts. This this is a quote from the website of the abortion center. Our physicians are some of the most experienced abortion providers in the southeast. Our staff has provided abortion care to over a hundred thousand patients during the past twenty years. Yeah, as though that something to brag about. Right. Honestly, it is.

4:30 Okay. Registered nurses and medical assistants with years of abortion experience compliment and assist are very experienced medical staff. Many of our counselors have backgrounds in psychology, social work and medical office environments. All of our councilors are sincere, caring women who are committed to helping each individual patient complete their treatment with the best possible emotional, spiritual and physical spiritual alms. Yeah, you know, a word comes to mind as you read all of that. Yeah, and I hope I don't have to beat this out. BULLCRAT. That's bullcrap.

5:13 We who know what really happens. But just look at let's just examine. Yeah, their language in good luck, this is some excellent language. They know what they're doing where. We don't want to underestimate the the craftiness of the abortion center. They are very good, of course, at at drawing people in and into trusting them. Yeah, so, well, this is what we have to understand to is that we're dealing with again, a a for profit company. Right, well, plant parent, who it's not? They say they're not for profit, but they make make off of killing children. GO MONEY ON UM number. We know that. So we're dealing with that. And so I say that so that people understand. These are salesmen and these are sale is tactics, and and a sales tactic is to gain people's trust. Yeah, boy, Hey, we have this amount of experience.

6:05 Yeah, yeah, and and something that a lot of people don't know. I certainly didn't know this until some of the abortion workers who left confided in me and talked with me and told me that they have quotas at the call center, quotas for how many abortions they have to book or they're retaught. Okay, they're re edguy condition and then ultimately fired if they don't meet their quota of abortions. I mean, how sick is that? Yeah, well, sounds like it's broads. Yeah, because again, you're talking about a business that makes a lot of money off would right, right. So notice how their building trust in their prospective clients. They paint this rosy picture of time tested success. Yeah, twenty years, why you have killing hundred thousand babies. Yeah, and this is a glowing recommendation, because they know what they're doing. Apparently. In this business, the doctors are described as experienced, the staff are are described as caring, sincere, committed to helping and the best possible outcomes. So all that language, not once does it describe what happens in an abortion. Of course not. Nowhere on the website can you find the abortionist name and look up the record of the abortionists.

7:16 Right nowhere. Even if you call an ass they do mean in one sense, they're talking about their providers, in their you know, abortionists, in their staff and all of that. You got to take our we're for it, because they're not going to. This is what the abortion clinics convey and you got to take our word for it that these people are experienced, because we're not going to tell you who they are. Right. So they are actually come into the room, right and any abortion and you get the idea that maybe, maybe, you know you're getting this really wonderful, compassionate doctor. Yeah, but what do we learn from this, though, as we're thinking about okay, we're dealing with women in crisis situation, right, yeah, and anybody in a crisis situation you're looking for something to grab hold of, you're looking for some kind of hope, you're looking for some kind of remedy, you're looking for some were or somebody that you can go to to help make the situation better. So that's really scared and you're scared and you know it hurts because you've heard from your friends, so you know it hurts.

8:13 So so the picture of their painting is one that is designed to damp in their fears and paint a picture that is not at all scary, not at all paint well it least. You know, in one sense, the abortion industry is playing on the fear of the future, the fear of having a baby, the fear of all of this, and trying to say well, after all, having an abortion. I mean that's the picture that the abortion industry paints and some of them, I've heard pro choice people say this. It's less invasive to have an abortion procedure than it is to have a baby. So, you know, trust abortion, trust the abortion industry, because all your fears will be taken away, all the things and anxiety that you have your fast Cera Lot come best possible comes spiritually, yeah too.

8:54 So how can we take what they have put there, HMM, and use that? Now, I'm not saying that we use the enemies tactics, but I am saying is within this language, is sort of what we recognize as how we, as human beings, would communicate to someone who's in a crisis like we want to let them know that we have experience in dealing with their issues. We want to let them know that you, in one sense, okay, you've got chaos going on in your life and we got some solutions for you. Right. Yeah, and in one sense, you know, that's what a sidewalk counsel is, that's what a pregnancy center counselor is is.

9:35 We're trying to counsel them through a situation. We're trying to show them that there are solutions and that there is ultimately, from our perspective, a God that they can trust to carry through with this situation and bring about the best possible outcome. Right. And and so the abortion center, of course, knows we have a solution that is not abortion, and they they know that we're effective at it. So we have another layer, though, that we have to first overcome, not only the language that they have read and the counseling they've received from the abortion center, but they tell them there will be protesters, called protesters. They they tell them just drive past, don't talk to them, that they tell them that we're mean. I had someone come and say I was so surprised you, you're nice that they told me you really mean and angry, and that wasn't what she saw, which is, by the way, answers in part your question. We have to counter that's another one of the her right. Right, we encounter that's another one of the things that we have to overcome. Yeah, know the fact that the abortion industry has this language and has encouraged now, hey, we have these these wonderful providers. All that, the fact that the abortion industry is told them the people on the sidewalk or just a bunch of angry, mean protesters. That's that's something else that we've got right to counter. Right the we've had some of the pro choice people, quote are quote, per choice people say that, you know, you lie to the women. You show them ultrasounds of Squirrel fetus their feet and that was a good so they've lied

11:07 to these women. So we've got all we've got a pretty big challenge, especially with sidewall counselors, but even in a pregnancy center context, there's challenges there because again you're dealing with a woman who's afraid, who thinks, at least in some measure, that abortion might be a solution for her. And you've got a contrast really, and that's what we're doing. We're contrasting God's way, yeah, with their way right. We're contrasting God's way, the right way, the hard way, yeah, with the world's way. The world is into quick fix solutions, take appeal, solve your problems. Just go and have this five minute procedures. Solve your problem, and God's way is trust me, and it doesn't seem clear where things are going to lead it. Ultimately you're trusting in God, right, and it's kind of like you're in a storm. This is how I describe it when I'm talking to women at the abortion clinic or talking to men. You're in a storm and there's this storm of life, and we're going to get into a little bit of scripture talking about the storm and talking about disciple being in the storm.

12:11 But you're in the storm and you can't see that there's a shore on the other side of that storm. Is You're paling this boat of life, and we encourage them. There's a God that's over it all. It sees from above the storm and he's calling you to trust him. And so that's the message we're trying to convey. But again we've got some challenges that coming up again, very limited time and so well, that's another challenge, right, and that tells you, see, have time and did time. We sometimes only have as much as ten to fifteen seconds to begin to build that trust but one of the things, as you were speaking, that I believe is perhaps very important in any difficult situation when you've got choices to make, is to label the problem. And the problem here really is who are you gonna Trust? And I think sometimes just being very I've heard you over the microphone say this many times to them. Who are you going to trust? Are you going to trust God, or are you going to trust your own solutions that has brought you to the worst place on earth that you possibly could be and never wanted to be? And so labeling the problem, that this is a problem of trust and and pointing out their alternatives, what you just did.

13:24 You can trust God, or you can trust the abortion industry, or you can trust the abortion yeah, to and ultimately, of course, we know it's trusting the devil, it's trussing the enemy exactly their soul and sat me of their baby. Yeah, yeah. Well, one of the in my mind is I'm thinking about the hurdles that we have to overcome, some of the issues that we have to deal with and and what we're up against. And we're trying to convince an abortion minded mom not not even just to choose life, but just to come over and talk with us. Is the fact that she's already engaged. I mean I think there's, you know, within pregnancy centers are certain language they use. They talk about abortion minded women, abortion determined women. I think in one sense we're dealing with at an abortion clinic is we're dealing with an abortion engaged woman, like she's engaged in the very act, like you can't get more close than being at an abortion clinic to actually having an abortion. Her eyes are straight on that building which someone is going to take the life of her baby and she had so many times women have told me I agree with everything you say, but I've got an appointment. Yeah, they're focuses. I've got an appointment and that appointment is with death and nothing is going to determine so she's headed toward the abortion said when they encounter us. Yeah, they're headed toward the abortion center.

14:39 They have their money in their hand YEP, and they've already gone through the counseling stuff over the phone off and so called counseling circle. Counsel. Trust the abortion inst to give a good day. Hey, they're good spiritual counsel. He is ridiculous, but anyway, they they've gone through that, they've got their money in their hand, they've been told there's these angry protesters. Don't stop for them. So really, I'm just paying the picture, guys. So the you understand, we're up against a pretty difficult challenge there. Yet the miracle is that anyone ever chooses life, and I mean that's when you're are, when someone even stops and talk exactly takes our literature or sue. You know, I say that not to scare people off and not to say that we aren't effective out there. We certainly are. We've seen God do amazing things. Yeah, but the first and foremost set the stays that we understand. This is why we train our sidewalk counselors. Most importantly, that you need to be walking with God, like the we need God on our side. We need God to do the work, we need God to move their hearts, we need God to speak to their hearts. Yeah, and God does it. We see amazing things, but we also, I think, practically because we're up against so many challenges, because there's a trust at these women have already placed in the abortion industry, and the abortion industry is already told them not to trust us that we need to be intentional and careful in the way that we carry ourselves and the way that we talk.

16:03 Like I don't want listen. I'm not crafting the things that I say and things that I don't say based on what the abortion industry says. So I'm not saying that we need to base what we say and how we do ministry on the word of God. Primarily, right, that has to be our our central source for information, the word of God. So I'm not saying that we leave the word of out, out of the equation. I know there are some people that say that we shouldn't be talking about God until some certain point. We should mention scripture because it might, you know, stop them from coming and talk to US whatever. I think that's a ridiculous notion anyway, because most of the people going into the abortion clinic, clinic coming for abortions, will quote scripture to you. Right, that shall not judge.

16:45 Yeah, that time, and you're you know, in one sense, when you're quote scripture, you're reminding them of things that they have known in their past. They've been in church, they've been exposed to things in the Bible belt. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, I say all that, it's a still yet we do need to be careful not to reinforce some of the stuff the abortion clinic or the pro choice people have told them. Yeah, for example, we need to make sure the information that we convey is correct information, absolutely now to make sure that they do not ever catch us in a life. For one thing, it dishonors God to lie, but for another it just kind of supports what they are saying, reinforces what they you know, quote pro choice people with the pro abortion people have told them what the abortion clinic is told them. You know, they show them pictures of squirrel fetuses. They lie to them and tell them their baby is fully formed at, you know, six weeks or whatever. So we need to make sure that we're not doing that right. But we do need to convey information right. Again, it needs to be accurate information right. It needs to be in such a way where, again, we're not like, okay, I'll give you an example. I've heard people say on our sidewalk not are not cities for life people, because they because we're perfect. We're not.

18:00 But I'm telling you, I would correct this right away, but I've heard people say they've got a fifty five gallon drum of dead babies in the back of that abortion clinic? Ever heard? Somebody said, I have heard stuff like that, but not from us. Yeah, yeah, like, no, they don't. Actually they don't have a few, but know if they did, because we're not allowed in there anyway, right. But I mean we've seen them take the boxes of that, you know, the baby, dead babies out, which is a grievous thing. Yeah, and so you might say they have. They put the babies in biohazard bag and thrown away you. We do say that that's true, but just what you're trying to do is you're trying, in one sense, to manipulate the facts and and bring a picture to the mine, and which I understand that we need to use words, we need to bring pictures to their mind. We need to be talking about the violence of abortion when appropriate, when necessary. We certainly do. But then bellish on that just chips away at any trust that we would normally have, because any reasonable minded person would know they don't have a fifty five gallon drum a dead babies in the back of the right clinic.

19:00 And really the first picture that we paid for them as us our face are demeanor, our tone, those are all so critical in building trust. If we look trustworthy, we speak respectfully, gently, kindly, we convey that we are someone who can be trusted. So it before we ever open our mouth to speak, which I believe very strongly we must do. Yeah, but just are very fact that we're waving and smiling as they come in and looking approachable is kind of, I think, the first step. Yeah, and what that does is it chips away at what the abortion clinic is right, because the abortion clinic is told them there's going to be a bunch of angry people out there yelling at you and calling you a murderer. Yeah, and when what they encounter is something very different. Yeah, then they begin.

19:45 And we've had women like you just shared who've told us. Well, they said you're like this, but you're not, and so I'm glad I came over and talk to you. Yeah, so you're always surprised. Right. So we want to you know again, we're not crafting what we say and thinking about what we say and what we do based on what the abortion industry styes, we're doing it out of our love for God, our love for people. What we see in the scripture. Right, right, right. But if what we done, what we do, really shows that what the abortion industry, what the abortion clinic is told them is untrue, it helps, it helps to take some of the trust, yeah, that they put in the abortion clinic and to invest that trust in at least hearing what we have to say. Right, so great. So our information needs to be truthful. Yes, it does. That's very important, and it needs to be spiritually accurate as well. It needs to quote the Bible. Yeah, curately is yeah, anyboy in scripture and use and to use the words, and I've got a whole slew, yeah, of verses that are about trust, that that the the Bible has to say, that God has to say about trust. With this be good time for you to mention some of us. So I won't go through all of them, because we will.

20:56 Let me combat something. Or here's another level of of issues that we have to deal with. Okay. Something we're up against is that you have the world's way. You know, the Bible says there is a way that seems right to man, kind of that way of death. So you have the world's way, its system, its system of thinking. Yes, what does the world say about trust. Think about it. Think. What is the Hollywood mantra? Trust your heart, you trust your heart. Trust your heart. Yeah, follow your feeling, not bit. Yeah, cool, trust your heart because your heart will lead you. That's a that. Listen, the Bible says directly the opposite of that. Does says, if you trust your heart, guess where you end up? In places of death. Yeah, follow your heart and you'll follow it right to an abortion. Yeah, people come to abortion clinics because they follow their heart. That's right. The heart is deceptive above all else, the Bible says. Who can know it?

21:45 So if the heart is deceptive above all else, well then don't trust your heart. But what, what do you trust? You're falling heart and it's going to lead you to an abortion clinics. Anyway. I say that to say that we're up against that. We're up against people that are following their heart. We're up against society that says follow your heart. Yeah, that's another level of like complications and issues that we have to come up against. And so that's what again, selfishness, yeah, which is Putt of men. That whole plays on the whole idea. Follow your heart. Why? Because you're the most important thing. Yeah, this is what for number one, this is what I hear that out of time. This is what's best for me, not the thought about what might be best for they. And if you know you have that sort of mindset and if you've your mindset and your life has been crafted by the ideas of the world and follow your heart just seems natural. So we're up against human nature, which is has that propensity towards send and selfishness. Right, so we're up against that as well. Yeah, and I think again people need to understand what we're up against, not to discourage us, but to encourage us, that we have tools in God's word that we can use, because God's word, the Bible says of itself, God's word, is alive, active and sharper than need two edged sword, he brews and twelve, alive, active and sharper than any two edged sword. It says it's able to pierce the divide even between soul and spirit, joint and marry. So what it's talking about is God's words ability to get in and to do a surgeon's job. God's word will

23:18 cut through the mass, it will cut through the lies, it'll cut through the bull crap, yeah, full crap and get right to it. And that's why we cannot, as sidewall counselors, as pregnancy center counselors, neglect the word of God. We cannot neglect the word of God. Now, that doesn't mean that we need to be constantly throwing Bible verses at people. Understand you know, there's we don't want to do that, Shoven the Gospel downs people's throat through whatever. But everything that we say needs to be informed by and seasoned with the word of God and we ought to be quote in scripture. We ought to be saying, well, understand, your situation is such, but you know, the Bible says this. Right, he called word tells us. I know your situation is difficult, but Psalm Forty six one tells us God is a refuge in strength, a very present help in trouble. Right, and what you said undergirding everything that we do and say.

24:11 So we may not even be quoting all these scriptures about trust. I don't know that I quote them very often about trust itself, but when I have that scripture in my heart and I'm familiar with it and I know what the Bible says about trust, I am more able to then go forth and know how to help them to trust in God. Yeah, altimate. Yeah, because you know, it's believers. We need to have assurance in the Lord that we can. You know, you can't give what you don't have exactly. And so if you're trying to convey to an abortion amounted woman, a woman at an abortion clinic, that she needs to trust God, if you don't have trust in him right yourself right, you can have a hard time convinced her to trust the Lord. So you should be sure of God's word yourself and of course, if you're a believer, you are in God's helping you more and more to trust him. Yeah, but we need to be in God's Word on regular basis, and I want to encourage people with too, and this is what we encourage our sidewalk counselors here with. You got to be in constant fellowship with the Lord, because this Ministry is not a ministry you're going to be able to do out of your own strength.

25:10 You're not going to be able to do it out of your own wisdom and the world's wisdom. As much as medical science might be on our on our side, and it is Yep, medical science is not going to change a human heart that's bent on doing something very selfish. It never says in the Bible that I could find trust in medical science. Never. No, I'm not saying that medical science, again, is not on our side. It is. It is, and I'm not saying that it's not a tool that we can use. We certainly can. That's one of our what we call our three talking points when we're taught, when we're teaching side what counsels is fetal development. We get that from medical science, right, right. The humanity of the baby can be proven scientifically. Exactly. Yeah, but what does that even matter? If you think about it, what does the humanity of the baby even matter if God's not brought into the equation? You're just talking about killing another animal anyway. Yeah, so God has to be brought into the equation. God's word doesn't mean, again, that we can't use some of these things to our advantage. We can and we should. But if God's words not brought into the equation, then nothing else has the ability as God's word does, to change the human heart. These women have to see from yeah, I think the Holy Spirit shows it to him that they can't trust the abortion industry, they can't trust, ultimately, the devil.

26:26 They need to trust the Lord. They need to trust what God says about them, about their baby, about their situation, rather than the abortion industry. Yeah, and the people that God has sent. They need to they need to listen to I had a woman a couple of days ago who, when I asked her about what brought her here and what her obstacles were, she said basically that it was all about her. Yeah, but then she said that she knew in her heart that this was the right thing to do and and that before God her heart, he knew her heart. That's what she said. He knows my heart. I said, well, do you know what the Bible says? He says about your heart. Yeah, and and I started quoting about the hardest deceitful above all else. And and I I asked her the series of questions. Have you ever lied, stolen lust it after someone spoken ill of someone, and and and she said that she had to all of those. And I said, what do you think your heart looks like in reality then, and and she agreed that maybe her heart didn't look as good as as she thought, that it did. So that's kind of an example of using scripture to kind of bring someone to the conclusion that their belief was wrong, where they were trusting in their heart was just wrong. Yeah, and what don't want you guys that are listening to understand, because we're talking, you know, heavy about using the word of God, we're talking about how the word of God comes against lies and we're talking about wielding the sword of the spirit. But again, we're up against a

28:00 lot and they've been told we're a bunch of angry protesters whatever. So that's why we need to be careful in the way that we like you, can convey certain truths, like what you're talking about, showing someone that their heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Yeah, and you can do it very graciously, you can do it in a way where you're not just accusing and pointing the finger. See, biblically, we have to come from a position of we've sinned and fallen short of the glory of God as well, we've failed the Lord as well and we need a savior as well. Right, and even though we're not living in sin, we came from a lifestyle of sin. We need to come from a perspective of we're no better apart from Christ, then they are right and we can speak graciously into situations like that because we see hey set for the grace of God, I'd be right where you are exactly, you know. So when we're speaking from that perspective we're speaking graciously and I think it is as much as people might minimize that. I think tone does matter, the tone of voice that we use.

29:07 It goes a long way and I think there's there's a proverb that speaks to that. I quit this proverb a lot to our side Walt counselors and other people who are not our sidebalt counselors who would I would like for them not to be so so loud and obnoxious in the way that they talk. Yes, is the proverb that says if you bless your brother early in the morning loudly, it will be perceived as a curse. Basically, what it's saying is you can say as nice as stuff as you want, if you say that the wrong time and in the wrong volume, it's not going to be received as a blessing, it's going to be received as a curse. So our tone does matter. Yeah, our tone, accept the tone. That's what we say. Your tone sets the tone in your time and can matter. You know, you look and you pray for those opportune times in a conversation with a mom who's come over and talk to you or with the mom who's stopped her vehicle and pulled over to talk to you on the side of the road. You look for those opportune times to introduce the conviction of sin, the reality. You know, I've spoken, I mean very forthrightly, with men in front of the abortion clinic about their sexual sin. Yeah, about their guilt before God and their manipulation of women. I mean I've encountered men that have taken three and four women to the abortion clinic because they got them pregnant, having second south out of her. But I'll wait for the opportune time not to tell them that they're a filthy, wretched center, but to let them tell themselves. That's what I like so much as effective thing, to really ask questions and let them draw their own conclusion. Yeah, listening to watching Rad Comfort Videos, U see, that's exactly what he does. He's taking them through the law and he says, have you ever

30:38 lied? Yeah, well, what does that make you? And that's a really good method. You're asking questions, you're drawing it out of them. They're seeing and in hearing from their own mouth their guilt before God for their sin. Right, yeah, and it that's a that's a helpful way, in a very gracious but fourth right way to address these issues. Yeah, yeah, well, so let's look at some of these becauses now. The first one is from proverbs. Proverbs, it's so good. Yeah, proverbs three, five, trust in the Lord with all your heart and do not lean on your own understanding. Yeah, so that's they're leaning on their own understanding, right. Or Yeah, trust in the Lord with all of your heart and I lean on your own understanding and all of your ways. Acknowledge Him and he would direct your right. Yeah, passed. So that's a scripture. Erect it. Yeah, right, you direct your path, you follow your heart, you follow your ways, you end up in an abortion clinic, you follow the Lord and he'll direct your path. He'll direct your path out of the abortion clinic. And so this is a scripture that talks about trust and it really contrasts with the trust that a woman has an abortion and the abortion industry with the trust that she should have in the Lord.

31:49 And I think this is an important scripture to remind these mothers about that God can be trusted and you ought to trust it. Yeah, and this one is one that I actually will say to the women quite often. For one, it's one of the few I remember. I'm not very good memorization, but it's such a good one, it's so appropriate. So the next one. Blessed is the man who trust in the Lord. Whose Trust is the Lord Jeremiah, seventeen seven. Yeah, and you know what we're talking about when we're talking about trusted in the Lords? We're talking about the character of God. Really, you know, if you think about trust, what is it? It's really a faith in the character of that entity or that person that you're trusting. Right. Yeah, and I think as sidewalk counselors, one of the things that we can do to help women to see that they can trust the Lord, and I think, I know this is very biblical, is to share testimonies, to share stories about what God has done in certain situations. I mean, one of the ways that I will try to gain trust from people as I'm talking to him or even as I'm talking on the microphone, is sharing with them. Listen, I've seen women in your situation and I've seen God do amazing things. Would you come over and just let me show you some of the help that God has available for I am a woman who was in your situation and I did what you did and I know the pain and sorrow. But let me tell you about how God changed my life and changed me and brought set me on a solid path. Yeah,

33:21 I might and right. And so you're sick. You're sharing these stories and you're sharing these testimonies because you're establishing, helping, establishing their mind the character of this God that you're talking about, that he is good, that he does care, that he is able to cause dramatic, radical change in your life that you maybe have never felt her seen before. And if you have experienced that, we all know that every true believer who speaks of that transformative power of Christ in their own life is compelling. People want that, people are on to that. Yeah, and if you look in the Old Testament, you look at some of the psalms and you look at how the Psalmist recounts the faithfulness of God and even recounting the exodus from Egypt and how God had been faithful to bring his people into the promised land. What is he doing? What's The psalmist doing there? He's conveying the faithfulness of God to the people that are reading and singing this psalm and they're singing about the faithfulness of God. If you think about a lot of our songs in Church, they surround the faithfulness in the goodness of God and what God has brought us from, what God has done in our lives. Yeah, and all through the scripture we see this common thread of what God has done. Look what the Lord has done, look at the faithfulness of God, and that's all there to help us and remind us that this God that we're talking about, we're trying to encourage people to trust in, is good, he's faithful, that he comes through, that he can be trusted, so trust him, you know. Yeah, and it's a theme in Scriptures, a very common thing. It is in a counterpoint to that which I do sometimes tell

34:53 the women is now contrast that that picture of God that has just been painted with. When you trusted in yourself, when you trust it in your own choices, when you trusted in your own solutions. Where have they brought you? Yeah, and they brought them to a place of death and destruction, and they all know that. That's undeniable and most of them don't want to be there. Right. I would say none of them truly want to be there. So anyway. So the next one and Psalm fifty six, three to four, and then verse thirteen in that Psalm. Some fifty six. Okay, when I am afraid, I put my trust in you, in God, who's where I praise. In God, I trust. I shall not be afraid. What can flesh do to me, for you have delivered my soul from death, yes, my feet from falling, that I may walk before God in the light of life. So there's a there's a psalm, just like something about David recounting the faithfulness of God. You have done this, therefore, I know I can trust you've been faith in the past.

35:57 Therefore I can trust you in the future. And when I'm afraid, to which these women, I think, relate to that, I mean they are, they are giving into fear nine times out of town. Oh, absolutely. So we can remind them of the faithfulness of God. Yeah, we can remind them of the faithfulness of God in the Scriptures. We conminded them of certain scriptures where God came through in the Scriptures. Also the faithfulness of God in our own lives, the faithfulness of God. I remember I shared a couple of podcasts go about the young lady who, by God's grace, and we talked about man and can man be effective administer and how God's Great. By God's grace, she chose life and one of the things that God used is meet reminding her about the faithfulness of God in her life and how God has been faithful in the past and how God had lined things up in her life in such a way where she could actually have this baby and have her needs met, and all of this because she had given you enough information that you were able to to zone in on. Yeah, Hey, there's an example of God's faithfulness in this student's life and you're probably storing that in your head, thinking I need to speak to her. Yeah, absolutely, and it's important to remind people of the faithfulness of God. Hey, as believers, it's important for us to remind each other of the faithfulness of God. Sometimes I need to be reminded when I'm down, when I'm in a difficult situation, when I'm dealing with just the anxiety of whatever stress going on, I need to be reminded of the faithfulness of God. That's why it's important for us to be in church and hear the word of God's why is important for us to encourage one another daily, as long as it's called today, as the Bible says, because we, even his believers, need

37:29 to be reminded. Listen, your future is unsure, unclear, like everybody's future is. No one knows the future, but God does, and God, who has been faithful in the past, will be faithful in the future, and that is an important truth for us to convey to an abortion minded mom. Again, we're dealing with majority, at least here in the south. The majority of these women have been in church. Majority of these women know things about the Lord, right, and so we're reminding them of things that they'd already known. Yeah, so that ultimately, again, they take the trust that they've put into the abortion clinic and abortion and invest that trust actually in the Lord. Yeah, and one of the things that they're losing side, if I do think is is eternity and what's happening to their soul as they're making choices to rebel against God. They know it's a choice to rebel against God almost overwhelmingly, and I love in in this palm where it says for you have delivered my soul from death. So reminding them again who really holds eternity, your eternity in his hand. It's not the abortionist.

38:31 Yeah, it's God. And do you really want to make a choice that is going to draw you further from God or closer to God? Well, you know, I think with this, I mean we've gone through a lot of scripture. I think we've laid out a good spiritual case about how we asside counsel as we as ministers in and pro life, in a pro life capacity, can help an abortion minded mom to take the trust that she's put in the abortion clinic and put that trust in the Lord. I hope we've given you guys some principles, at least from our experience, and I think we've got more to share on this topic. Yeah, so we'll do a part two to this because we can't go much longer, right, but we'll do a part two and hopefully this was a blessing you guys, and we appreciate you listening appreciate you guys that share this podcast. Please continue to share this podcast send us ideas about future podcasts. We love to hear what your ideas are and you can get in touch with me. D Parks at cities for lifecom. V COSSI ORG at cities for lifecom for her. But until next time, God bless. Give me our love for love. Give me our loft for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious, and some me you