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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.160 I am yours. I am yours. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:08.789 podcast and this episode we're going to talk about trust. When we encounter an 3 00:00:08.789 --> 00:00:12.990 abortion minded woman, she has put her trust in abortion. It's our job 4 00:00:13.070 --> 00:00:16.109 to help her take that trust out of abortion and put it in the Lord. 5 00:00:16.469 --> 00:00:18.670 But how do we, as pro life ministers, do that? We 6 00:00:18.789 --> 00:00:21.460 believe the scripture has a lot to say about this, so stick with us. 7 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:37.210 I felt show passis touch your welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. 8 00:00:37.369 --> 00:00:40.329 WHO This podcast is a blessing to you. We're going to talk about 9 00:00:40.329 --> 00:00:45.929 trust today. It's an important issue and of course we're going to talk about 10 00:00:45.929 --> 00:00:48.729 it and lie of the ministry that we're involved in on a regular basis, 11 00:00:48.770 --> 00:00:53.039 which is sidewall counseling. But I think this, this rings true and the 12 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:57.240 things we're going to talk about ring true. And really, any ministry be 13 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.000 involved in, when you're dealing with abortion minded women and people just in difficult 14 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:06.469 situations, trust is always an issue, right. I mean whether you're talking 15 00:01:06.510 --> 00:01:11.989 about again abortion, mind of women or even just marital issues and mom and 16 00:01:11.109 --> 00:01:15.510 dad to their kids, kind of issues, any issue, trust is a 17 00:01:15.590 --> 00:01:21.099 big deal and in the scripture it's also an important deal. Right, there's 18 00:01:21.219 --> 00:01:23.219 all kinds of scripture. We're going to get into some of those that talk 19 00:01:23.299 --> 00:01:27.459 about trust, but let me kind of set the stage where what we're talking 20 00:01:27.540 --> 00:01:33.609 about, because again we're primarily talking about in a sidewalk counseling realm or maybe 21 00:01:33.689 --> 00:01:38.609 even in a pregnancy center or some other kind of prolife ministry, is we're 22 00:01:38.650 --> 00:01:42.489 talking about the trust, and this is kind of what we come up against, 23 00:01:42.609 --> 00:01:48.719 that a woman has in abortion, in the abortion industry, and what 24 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:53.079 I mean by that is that she's put a certain level of trust in abortion 25 00:01:53.200 --> 00:02:00.159 to fix her situation right, and she's trusting abortion to make the relationship with 26 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.989 her boyfriend better or husband better, to calm the storm that's going on in 27 00:02:05.109 --> 00:02:09.469 her life. She's put her trust in abortion and thereby put her trust in 28 00:02:09.469 --> 00:02:13.710 the abortion industry. Right. That seems to be that's what's going to change 29 00:02:13.710 --> 00:02:16.659 her life and make it all right again. Yeah, it's what we've got 30 00:02:16.780 --> 00:02:20.419 to do, and this is a dynamic that I thought would be a blessing 31 00:02:20.460 --> 00:02:24.060 to you guys to understand, is we've got to try, as sidewalk counselors, 32 00:02:24.219 --> 00:02:30.009 as prolife pregnancy center counselors. We've got to try to counsel these women 33 00:02:30.050 --> 00:02:35.729 and to take in that investment, if you will, of trust out of 34 00:02:36.050 --> 00:02:39.090 the abortion clinic, out of the abortion industry, out of abortion, and 35 00:02:39.330 --> 00:02:43.849 put that trust in, you know, in us, but really in the 36 00:02:44.009 --> 00:02:47.039 Lord. Right. Basically we're trying to gain their trust. Right, if 37 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:52.319 they did it, because if they don't put their trust initially in us over 38 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:55.039 the abortion center, there's no reason to listen to us. No one listens 39 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:59.909 to someone they don't trust. Yeah, so our goal is, of course, 40 00:03:00.030 --> 00:03:04.389 to transfer that trust ultimately to God, but first of all they they 41 00:03:04.509 --> 00:03:07.389 have to feel they will trust us enough to hear what we have to say. 42 00:03:07.430 --> 00:03:13.819 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So what are some of the challenges than 43 00:03:13.900 --> 00:03:17.539 that we're dealing with? We're coming up against some challenges and we're at a 44 00:03:19.580 --> 00:03:23.219 pretty grave disadvantage, especially standing in front of an abortion clinic. Yeah, 45 00:03:23.219 --> 00:03:25.219 we really are coming to the abortion center, right, right. What are 46 00:03:25.300 --> 00:03:29.969 some of the challenge? Yeah, well, I looked on the website of 47 00:03:30.569 --> 00:03:35.370 our local, very busy abortion center and here is the first big challenge. 48 00:03:35.490 --> 00:03:39.050 So these women don't go looking for sidewalk counselors that can write, that can 49 00:03:39.129 --> 00:03:44.240 give them an another, you know, different option other than we're not coming 50 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:47.039 to the abortion clinic because they're hoping to sidewall counselor will be there right right. 51 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:51.599 Have had people come because they knew they knew that the mobile unit would 52 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:53.680 be there. They knew it would be would be out there right right. 53 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:57.830 We praise God for that. But primarily they're not coming to the abortion clinic 54 00:03:58.310 --> 00:04:00.870 because they want to encounter us right, coming for abortion, right exactly. 55 00:04:00.909 --> 00:04:06.469 And and so so let's look at how the abortion center first of all presents 56 00:04:06.509 --> 00:04:10.819 themselves. Ye, to because in order to gain gain their trusts. This 57 00:04:11.139 --> 00:04:15.259 this is a quote from the website of the abortion center. Our physicians are 58 00:04:15.379 --> 00:04:21.339 some of the most experienced abortion providers in the southeast. Our staff has provided 59 00:04:21.339 --> 00:04:27.449 abortion care to over a hundred thousand patients during the past twenty years. Yeah, 60 00:04:27.810 --> 00:04:30.610 as though that something to brag about. Right. Honestly, it is. 61 00:04:30.689 --> 00:04:36.970 Okay. Registered nurses and medical assistants with years of abortion experience compliment and 62 00:04:38.089 --> 00:04:45.199 assist are very experienced medical staff. Many of our counselors have backgrounds in psychology, 63 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:49.360 social work and medical office environments. All of our councilors are sincere, 64 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:57.230 caring women who are committed to helping each individual patient complete their treatment with the 65 00:04:57.310 --> 00:05:02.550 best possible emotional, spiritual and physical spiritual alms. Yeah, you know, 66 00:05:02.870 --> 00:05:06.420 a word comes to mind as you read all of that. Yeah, and 67 00:05:06.420 --> 00:05:12.060 I hope I don't have to beat this out. BULLCRAT. That's bullcrap. 68 00:05:13.300 --> 00:05:16.939 We who know what really happens. But just look at let's just examine. 69 00:05:17.139 --> 00:05:21.089 Yeah, their language in good luck, this is some excellent language. They 70 00:05:21.209 --> 00:05:29.730 know what they're doing where. We don't want to underestimate the the craftiness of 71 00:05:29.850 --> 00:05:32.329 the abortion center. They are very good, of course, at at drawing 72 00:05:32.970 --> 00:05:38.279 people in and into trusting them. Yeah, so, well, this is 73 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:42.319 what we have to understand to is that we're dealing with again, a a 74 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:46.560 for profit company. Right, well, plant parent, who it's not? 75 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.269 They say they're not for profit, but they make make off of killing children. 76 00:05:49.430 --> 00:05:53.149 GO MONEY ON UM number. We know that. So we're dealing with 77 00:05:53.230 --> 00:05:57.189 that. And so I say that so that people understand. These are salesmen 78 00:05:57.350 --> 00:06:00.870 and these are sale is tactics, and and a sales tactic is to gain 79 00:06:00.990 --> 00:06:05.540 people's trust. Yeah, boy, Hey, we have this amount of experience. 80 00:06:05.699 --> 00:06:09.540 Yeah, yeah, and and something that a lot of people don't know. 81 00:06:09.620 --> 00:06:14.220 I certainly didn't know this until some of the abortion workers who left confided 82 00:06:14.300 --> 00:06:16.899 in me and talked with me and told me that they have quotas at the 83 00:06:17.019 --> 00:06:23.449 call center, quotas for how many abortions they have to book or they're retaught. 84 00:06:23.850 --> 00:06:29.449 Okay, they're re edguy condition and then ultimately fired if they don't meet 85 00:06:29.449 --> 00:06:31.449 their quota of abortions. I mean, how sick is that? Yeah, 86 00:06:31.529 --> 00:06:34.120 well, sounds like it's broads. Yeah, because again, you're talking about 87 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:38.240 a business that makes a lot of money off would right, right. So 88 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:43.120 notice how their building trust in their prospective clients. They paint this rosy picture 89 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:48.509 of time tested success. Yeah, twenty years, why you have killing hundred 90 00:06:48.750 --> 00:06:53.470 thousand babies. Yeah, and this is a glowing recommendation, because they know 91 00:06:53.550 --> 00:06:58.230 what they're doing. Apparently. In this business, the doctors are described as 92 00:06:58.269 --> 00:07:04.379 experienced, the staff are are described as caring, sincere, committed to helping 93 00:07:04.579 --> 00:07:09.699 and the best possible outcomes. So all that language, not once does it 94 00:07:09.819 --> 00:07:13.540 describe what happens in an abortion. Of course not. Nowhere on the website 95 00:07:13.579 --> 00:07:16.769 can you find the abortionist name and look up the record of the abortionists. 96 00:07:16.850 --> 00:07:20.290 Right nowhere. Even if you call an ass they do mean in one sense, 97 00:07:20.329 --> 00:07:24.769 they're talking about their providers, in their you know, abortionists, in 98 00:07:24.810 --> 00:07:28.170 their staff and all of that. You got to take our we're for it, 99 00:07:28.209 --> 00:07:30.920 because they're not going to. This is what the abortion clinics convey and 100 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.439 you got to take our word for it that these people are experienced, because 101 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.560 we're not going to tell you who they are. Right. So they are 102 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:39.800 actually come into the room, right and any abortion and you get the idea 103 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:44.199 that maybe, maybe, you know you're getting this really wonderful, compassionate doctor. 104 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.230 Yeah, but what do we learn from this, though, as we're 105 00:07:46.269 --> 00:07:51.870 thinking about okay, we're dealing with women in crisis situation, right, yeah, 106 00:07:53.110 --> 00:07:58.470 and anybody in a crisis situation you're looking for something to grab hold of, 107 00:07:58.509 --> 00:08:01.220 you're looking for some kind of hope, you're looking for some kind of 108 00:08:01.300 --> 00:08:05.300 remedy, you're looking for some were or somebody that you can go to to 109 00:08:05.379 --> 00:08:09.019 help make the situation better. So that's really scared and you're scared and you 110 00:08:09.100 --> 00:08:13.209 know it hurts because you've heard from your friends, so you know it hurts. 111 00:08:13.250 --> 00:08:16.329 So so the picture of their painting is one that is designed to damp 112 00:08:16.410 --> 00:08:20.209 in their fears and paint a picture that is not at all scary, not 113 00:08:20.370 --> 00:08:24.449 at all paint well it least. You know, in one sense, the 114 00:08:24.490 --> 00:08:28.519 abortion industry is playing on the fear of the future, the fear of having 115 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:30.920 a baby, the fear of all of this, and trying to say well, 116 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:33.159 after all, having an abortion. I mean that's the picture that the 117 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:37.639 abortion industry paints and some of them, I've heard pro choice people say this. 118 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.590 It's less invasive to have an abortion procedure than it is to have a 119 00:08:41.669 --> 00:08:45.230 baby. So, you know, trust abortion, trust the abortion industry, 120 00:08:45.590 --> 00:08:50.350 because all your fears will be taken away, all the things and anxiety that 121 00:08:50.389 --> 00:08:54.230 you have your fast Cera Lot come best possible comes spiritually, yeah too. 122 00:08:54.779 --> 00:09:01.820 So how can we take what they have put there, HMM, and use 123 00:09:01.179 --> 00:09:05.940 that? Now, I'm not saying that we use the enemies tactics, but 124 00:09:05.139 --> 00:09:11.129 I am saying is within this language, is sort of what we recognize as 125 00:09:11.450 --> 00:09:15.970 how we, as human beings, would communicate to someone who's in a crisis 126 00:09:16.049 --> 00:09:20.490 like we want to let them know that we have experience in dealing with their 127 00:09:20.570 --> 00:09:24.090 issues. We want to let them know that you, in one sense, 128 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.279 okay, you've got chaos going on in your life and we got some solutions 129 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.720 for you. Right. Yeah, and in one sense, you know, 130 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.879 that's what a sidewalk counsel is, that's what a pregnancy center counselor is is. 131 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.149 We're trying to counsel them through a situation. We're trying to show them 132 00:09:39.230 --> 00:09:43.909 that there are solutions and that there is ultimately, from our perspective, a 133 00:09:43.990 --> 00:09:48.269 God that they can trust to carry through with this situation and bring about the 134 00:09:48.509 --> 00:09:52.500 best possible outcome. Right. And and so the abortion center, of course, 135 00:09:52.620 --> 00:09:56.700 knows we have a solution that is not abortion, and they they know 136 00:09:56.820 --> 00:10:01.019 that we're effective at it. So we have another layer, though, that 137 00:10:01.179 --> 00:10:03.659 we have to first overcome, not only the language that they have read and 138 00:10:03.740 --> 00:10:07.769 the counseling they've received from the abortion center, but they tell them there will 139 00:10:07.769 --> 00:10:15.090 be protesters, called protesters. They they tell them just drive past, don't 140 00:10:15.129 --> 00:10:18.610 talk to them, that they tell them that we're mean. I had someone 141 00:10:18.730 --> 00:10:22.080 come and say I was so surprised you, you're nice that they told me 142 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:24.679 you really mean and angry, and that wasn't what she saw, which is, 143 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.440 by the way, answers in part your question. We have to counter 144 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.799 that's another one of the her right. Right, we encounter that's another one 145 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.629 of the things that we have to overcome. Yeah, know the fact that 146 00:10:37.909 --> 00:10:41.389 the abortion industry has this language and has encouraged now, hey, we have 147 00:10:41.509 --> 00:10:46.230 these these wonderful providers. All that, the fact that the abortion industry is 148 00:10:46.269 --> 00:10:48.269 told them the people on the sidewalk or just a bunch of angry, mean 149 00:10:48.389 --> 00:10:54.940 protesters. That's that's something else that we've got right to counter. Right the 150 00:10:54.460 --> 00:10:58.500 we've had some of the pro choice people, quote are quote, per choice 151 00:10:58.539 --> 00:11:01.259 people say that, you know, you lie to the women. You show 152 00:11:01.299 --> 00:11:07.409 them ultrasounds of Squirrel fetus their feet and that was a good so they've lied 153 00:11:07.450 --> 00:11:09.049 to these women. So we've got all we've got a pretty big challenge, 154 00:11:09.090 --> 00:11:15.570 especially with sidewall counselors, but even in a pregnancy center context, there's challenges 155 00:11:15.649 --> 00:11:20.039 there because again you're dealing with a woman who's afraid, who thinks, at 156 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:24.600 least in some measure, that abortion might be a solution for her. And 157 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.840 you've got a contrast really, and that's what we're doing. We're contrasting God's 158 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.909 way, yeah, with their way right. We're contrasting God's way, the 159 00:11:35.029 --> 00:11:37.590 right way, the hard way, yeah, with the world's way. The 160 00:11:37.669 --> 00:11:43.669 world is into quick fix solutions, take appeal, solve your problems. Just 161 00:11:43.830 --> 00:11:48.019 go and have this five minute procedures. Solve your problem, and God's way 162 00:11:48.100 --> 00:11:54.340 is trust me, and it doesn't seem clear where things are going to lead 163 00:11:54.340 --> 00:11:58.659 it. Ultimately you're trusting in God, right, and it's kind of like 164 00:11:58.220 --> 00:12:01.370 you're in a storm. This is how I describe it when I'm talking to 165 00:12:01.409 --> 00:12:05.049 women at the abortion clinic or talking to men. You're in a storm and 166 00:12:05.129 --> 00:12:07.809 there's this storm of life, and we're going to get into a little bit 167 00:12:07.809 --> 00:12:11.049 of scripture talking about the storm and talking about disciple being in the storm. 168 00:12:11.090 --> 00:12:15.009 But you're in the storm and you can't see that there's a shore on the 169 00:12:15.049 --> 00:12:18.279 other side of that storm. Is You're paling this boat of life, and 170 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:22.440 we encourage them. There's a God that's over it all. It sees from 171 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.879 above the storm and he's calling you to trust him. And so that's the 172 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:30.629 message we're trying to convey. But again we've got some challenges that coming up 173 00:12:30.629 --> 00:12:33.190 again, very limited time and so well, that's another challenge, right, 174 00:12:33.230 --> 00:12:35.389 and that tells you, see, have time and did time. We sometimes 175 00:12:35.470 --> 00:12:39.909 only have as much as ten to fifteen seconds to begin to build that trust 176 00:12:39.309 --> 00:12:43.710 but one of the things, as you were speaking, that I believe is 177 00:12:43.110 --> 00:12:50.659 perhaps very important in any difficult situation when you've got choices to make, is 178 00:12:50.820 --> 00:12:56.059 to label the problem. And the problem here really is who are you gonna 179 00:12:56.379 --> 00:13:00.970 Trust? And I think sometimes just being very I've heard you over the microphone 180 00:13:01.049 --> 00:13:03.330 say this many times to them. Who are you going to trust? Are 181 00:13:03.450 --> 00:13:09.169 you going to trust God, or are you going to trust your own solutions 182 00:13:09.330 --> 00:13:13.240 that has brought you to the worst place on earth that you possibly could be 183 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.639 and never wanted to be? And so labeling the problem, that this is 184 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.600 a problem of trust and and pointing out their alternatives, what you just did. 185 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.389 You can trust God, or you can trust the abortion industry, or 186 00:13:26.429 --> 00:13:31.269 you can trust the abortion yeah, to and ultimately, of course, we 187 00:13:31.429 --> 00:13:35.789 know it's trusting the devil, it's trussing the enemy exactly their soul and sat 188 00:13:35.909 --> 00:13:39.750 me of their baby. Yeah, yeah. Well, one of the in 189 00:13:39.870 --> 00:13:43.860 my mind is I'm thinking about the hurdles that we have to overcome, some 190 00:13:43.980 --> 00:13:48.100 of the issues that we have to deal with and and what we're up against. 191 00:13:48.100 --> 00:13:52.059 And we're trying to convince an abortion minded mom not not even just to 192 00:13:52.100 --> 00:13:56.210 choose life, but just to come over and talk with us. Is the 193 00:13:56.330 --> 00:13:58.610 fact that she's already engaged. I mean I think there's, you know, 194 00:13:58.690 --> 00:14:03.450 within pregnancy centers are certain language they use. They talk about abortion minded women, 195 00:14:03.529 --> 00:14:07.690 abortion determined women. I think in one sense we're dealing with at an 196 00:14:07.730 --> 00:14:11.519 abortion clinic is we're dealing with an abortion engaged woman, like she's engaged in 197 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.240 the very act, like you can't get more close than being at an abortion 198 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.679 clinic to actually having an abortion. Her eyes are straight on that building which 199 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.120 someone is going to take the life of her baby and she had so many 200 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.029 times women have told me I agree with everything you say, but I've got 201 00:14:28.110 --> 00:14:31.750 an appointment. Yeah, they're focuses. I've got an appointment and that appointment 202 00:14:31.870 --> 00:14:35.389 is with death and nothing is going to determine so she's headed toward the abortion 203 00:14:35.470 --> 00:14:39.100 said when they encounter us. Yeah, they're headed toward the abortion center. 204 00:14:39.779 --> 00:14:43.419 They have their money in their hand YEP, and they've already gone through the 205 00:14:43.779 --> 00:14:48.340 counseling stuff over the phone off and so called counseling circle. Counsel. Trust 206 00:14:48.379 --> 00:14:52.889 the abortion inst to give a good day. Hey, they're good spiritual counsel. 207 00:14:54.009 --> 00:14:56.090 He is ridiculous, but anyway, they they've gone through that, they've 208 00:14:56.090 --> 00:15:00.289 got their money in their hand, they've been told there's these angry protesters. 209 00:15:00.409 --> 00:15:03.009 Don't stop for them. So really, I'm just paying the picture, guys. 210 00:15:03.169 --> 00:15:09.200 So the you understand, we're up against a pretty difficult challenge there. 211 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.480 Yet the miracle is that anyone ever chooses life, and I mean that's when 212 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:18.519 you're are, when someone even stops and talk exactly takes our literature or sue. 213 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:22.710 You know, I say that not to scare people off and not to 214 00:15:22.789 --> 00:15:24.549 say that we aren't effective out there. We certainly are. We've seen God 215 00:15:24.629 --> 00:15:28.830 do amazing things. Yeah, but the first and foremost set the stays that 216 00:15:28.950 --> 00:15:31.389 we understand. This is why we train our sidewalk counselors. Most importantly, 217 00:15:31.509 --> 00:15:35.899 that you need to be walking with God, like the we need God on 218 00:15:35.980 --> 00:15:37.740 our side. We need God to do the work, we need God to 219 00:15:37.820 --> 00:15:41.700 move their hearts, we need God to speak to their hearts. Yeah, 220 00:15:41.299 --> 00:15:46.179 and God does it. We see amazing things, but we also, I 221 00:15:46.299 --> 00:15:50.570 think, practically because we're up against so many challenges, because there's a trust 222 00:15:50.610 --> 00:15:54.370 at these women have already placed in the abortion industry, and the abortion industry 223 00:15:54.409 --> 00:15:58.570 is already told them not to trust us that we need to be intentional and 224 00:15:58.809 --> 00:16:03.730 careful in the way that we carry ourselves and the way that we talk. 225 00:16:03.169 --> 00:16:07.039 Like I don't want listen. I'm not crafting the things that I say and 226 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:11.279 things that I don't say based on what the abortion industry says. So I'm 227 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:15.360 not saying that we need to base what we say and how we do ministry 228 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.110 on the word of God. Primarily, right, that has to be our 229 00:16:18.509 --> 00:16:22.669 our central source for information, the word of God. So I'm not saying 230 00:16:23.190 --> 00:16:26.230 that we leave the word of out, out of the equation. I know 231 00:16:26.350 --> 00:16:29.549 there are some people that say that we shouldn't be talking about God until some 232 00:16:30.110 --> 00:16:33.259 certain point. We should mention scripture because it might, you know, stop 233 00:16:33.419 --> 00:16:37.539 them from coming and talk to US whatever. I think that's a ridiculous notion 234 00:16:37.700 --> 00:16:41.580 anyway, because most of the people going into the abortion clinic, clinic coming 235 00:16:41.700 --> 00:16:45.220 for abortions, will quote scripture to you. Right, that shall not judge. 236 00:16:45.299 --> 00:16:48.090 Yeah, that time, and you're you know, in one sense, 237 00:16:48.210 --> 00:16:51.889 when you're quote scripture, you're reminding them of things that they have known in 238 00:16:51.929 --> 00:16:53.889 their past. They've been in church, they've been exposed to things in the 239 00:16:53.929 --> 00:16:57.129 Bible belt. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, I say all that, it's 240 00:16:57.169 --> 00:17:03.000 a still yet we do need to be careful not to reinforce some of the 241 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:07.079 stuff the abortion clinic or the pro choice people have told them. Yeah, 242 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:11.079 for example, we need to make sure the information that we convey is correct 243 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.230 information, absolutely now to make sure that they do not ever catch us in 244 00:17:15.269 --> 00:17:18.630 a life. For one thing, it dishonors God to lie, but for 245 00:17:18.789 --> 00:17:23.190 another it just kind of supports what they are saying, reinforces what they you 246 00:17:23.230 --> 00:17:26.990 know, quote pro choice people with the pro abortion people have told them what 247 00:17:27.190 --> 00:17:30.220 the abortion clinic is told them. You know, they show them pictures of 248 00:17:30.299 --> 00:17:34.380 squirrel fetuses. They lie to them and tell them their baby is fully formed 249 00:17:34.460 --> 00:17:38.619 at, you know, six weeks or whatever. So we need to make 250 00:17:38.660 --> 00:17:45.009 sure that we're not doing that right. But we do need to convey information 251 00:17:45.130 --> 00:17:48.009 right. Again, it needs to be accurate information right. It needs to 252 00:17:48.049 --> 00:17:51.970 be in such a way where, again, we're not like, okay, 253 00:17:52.049 --> 00:17:56.970 I'll give you an example. I've heard people say on our sidewalk not are 254 00:17:56.130 --> 00:18:00.079 not cities for life people, because they because we're perfect. We're not. 255 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.240 But I'm telling you, I would correct this right away, but I've heard 256 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:07.680 people say they've got a fifty five gallon drum of dead babies in the back 257 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:10.359 of that abortion clinic? Ever heard? Somebody said, I have heard stuff 258 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:12.390 like that, but not from us. Yeah, yeah, like, no, 259 00:18:12.509 --> 00:18:15.950 they don't. Actually they don't have a few, but know if they 260 00:18:15.069 --> 00:18:18.109 did, because we're not allowed in there anyway, right. But I mean 261 00:18:18.150 --> 00:18:21.789 we've seen them take the boxes of that, you know, the baby, 262 00:18:21.910 --> 00:18:23.470 dead babies out, which is a grievous thing. Yeah, and so you 263 00:18:23.549 --> 00:18:29.500 might say they have. They put the babies in biohazard bag and thrown away 264 00:18:29.539 --> 00:18:33.740 you. We do say that that's true, but just what you're trying to 265 00:18:33.779 --> 00:18:37.539 do is you're trying, in one sense, to manipulate the facts and and 266 00:18:37.900 --> 00:18:41.059 bring a picture to the mine, and which I understand that we need to 267 00:18:41.099 --> 00:18:42.730 use words, we need to bring pictures to their mind. We need to 268 00:18:42.809 --> 00:18:48.890 be talking about the violence of abortion when appropriate, when necessary. We certainly 269 00:18:48.930 --> 00:18:52.329 do. But then bellish on that just chips away at any trust that we 270 00:18:52.369 --> 00:18:56.200 would normally have, because any reasonable minded person would know they don't have a 271 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.240 fifty five gallon drum a dead babies in the back of the right clinic. 272 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.160 And really the first picture that we paid for them as us our face are 273 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:08.079 demeanor, our tone, those are all so critical in building trust. If 274 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:15.309 we look trustworthy, we speak respectfully, gently, kindly, we convey that 275 00:19:15.470 --> 00:19:19.549 we are someone who can be trusted. So it before we ever open our 276 00:19:19.630 --> 00:19:23.190 mouth to speak, which I believe very strongly we must do. Yeah, 277 00:19:23.579 --> 00:19:27.740 but just are very fact that we're waving and smiling as they come in and 278 00:19:27.859 --> 00:19:32.460 looking approachable is kind of, I think, the first step. Yeah, 279 00:19:32.500 --> 00:19:37.259 and what that does is it chips away at what the abortion clinic is right, 280 00:19:37.380 --> 00:19:40.049 because the abortion clinic is told them there's going to be a bunch of 281 00:19:40.089 --> 00:19:41.690 angry people out there yelling at you and calling you a murderer. Yeah, 282 00:19:41.730 --> 00:19:45.650 and when what they encounter is something very different. Yeah, then they begin. 283 00:19:45.809 --> 00:19:49.130 And we've had women like you just shared who've told us. Well, 284 00:19:49.289 --> 00:19:52.720 they said you're like this, but you're not, and so I'm glad I 285 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:56.400 came over and talk to you. Yeah, so you're always surprised. Right. 286 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:00.599 So we want to you know again, we're not crafting what we say 287 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.240 and thinking about what we say and what we do based on what the abortion 288 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:04.960 industry styes, we're doing it out of our love for God, our love 289 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:07.470 for people. What we see in the scripture. Right, right, right. 290 00:20:07.789 --> 00:20:12.390 But if what we done, what we do, really shows that what 291 00:20:12.470 --> 00:20:15.390 the abortion industry, what the abortion clinic is told them is untrue, it 292 00:20:15.630 --> 00:20:18.710 helps, it helps to take some of the trust, yeah, that they 293 00:20:18.829 --> 00:20:23.700 put in the abortion clinic and to invest that trust in at least hearing what 294 00:20:23.819 --> 00:20:26.579 we have to say. Right, so great. So our information needs to 295 00:20:26.619 --> 00:20:30.619 be truthful. Yes, it does. That's very important, and it needs 296 00:20:30.660 --> 00:20:34.660 to be spiritually accurate as well. It needs to quote the Bible. Yeah, 297 00:20:34.730 --> 00:20:38.490 curately is yeah, anyboy in scripture and use and to use the words, 298 00:20:38.529 --> 00:20:42.329 and I've got a whole slew, yeah, of verses that are about 299 00:20:42.769 --> 00:20:48.529 trust, that that the the Bible has to say, that God has to 300 00:20:48.609 --> 00:20:52.680 say about trust. With this be good time for you to mention some of 301 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:55.839 us. So I won't go through all of them, because we will. 302 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:03.480 Let me combat something. Or here's another level of of issues that we have 303 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:06.670 to deal with. Okay. Something we're up against is that you have the 304 00:21:06.750 --> 00:21:08.069 world's way. You know, the Bible says there is a way that seems 305 00:21:08.109 --> 00:21:11.349 right to man, kind of that way of death. So you have the 306 00:21:11.390 --> 00:21:14.230 world's way, its system, its system of thinking. Yes, what does 307 00:21:14.309 --> 00:21:17.549 the world say about trust. Think about it. Think. What is the 308 00:21:17.630 --> 00:21:22.019 Hollywood mantra? Trust your heart, you trust your heart. Trust your heart. 309 00:21:22.059 --> 00:21:26.660 Yeah, follow your feeling, not bit. Yeah, cool, trust 310 00:21:26.700 --> 00:21:30.259 your heart because your heart will lead you. That's a that. Listen, 311 00:21:30.339 --> 00:21:33.890 the Bible says directly the opposite of that. Does says, if you trust 312 00:21:33.930 --> 00:21:36.450 your heart, guess where you end up? In places of death. Yeah, 313 00:21:36.529 --> 00:21:38.490 follow your heart and you'll follow it right to an abortion. Yeah, 314 00:21:38.650 --> 00:21:41.650 people come to abortion clinics because they follow their heart. That's right. The 315 00:21:41.769 --> 00:21:45.730 heart is deceptive above all else, the Bible says. Who can know it? 316 00:21:45.930 --> 00:21:51.519 So if the heart is deceptive above all else, well then don't trust 317 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:53.240 your heart. But what, what do you trust? You're falling heart and 318 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:56.720 it's going to lead you to an abortion clinics. Anyway. I say that 319 00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:00.200 to say that we're up against that. We're up against people that are following 320 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.109 their heart. We're up against society that says follow your heart. Yeah, 321 00:22:03.190 --> 00:22:07.910 that's another level of like complications and issues that we have to come up against. 322 00:22:08.309 --> 00:22:11.470 And so that's what again, selfishness, yeah, which is Putt of 323 00:22:11.509 --> 00:22:15.269 men. That whole plays on the whole idea. Follow your heart. Why? 324 00:22:15.349 --> 00:22:18.099 Because you're the most important thing. Yeah, this is what for number 325 00:22:18.140 --> 00:22:19.579 one, this is what I hear that out of time. This is what's 326 00:22:19.619 --> 00:22:22.539 best for me, not the thought about what might be best for they. 327 00:22:22.660 --> 00:22:27.220 And if you know you have that sort of mindset and if you've your mindset 328 00:22:27.259 --> 00:22:32.170 and your life has been crafted by the ideas of the world and follow your 329 00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:36.410 heart just seems natural. So we're up against human nature, which is has 330 00:22:36.450 --> 00:22:38.890 that propensity towards send and selfishness. Right, so we're up against that as 331 00:22:38.930 --> 00:22:44.289 well. Yeah, and I think again people need to understand what we're up 332 00:22:44.289 --> 00:22:48.799 against, not to discourage us, but to encourage us, that we have 333 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:53.920 tools in God's word that we can use, because God's word, the Bible 334 00:22:55.000 --> 00:23:00.069 says of itself, God's word, is alive, active and sharper than need 335 00:23:00.109 --> 00:23:03.750 two edged sword, he brews and twelve, alive, active and sharper than 336 00:23:03.789 --> 00:23:08.630 any two edged sword. It says it's able to pierce the divide even between 337 00:23:08.829 --> 00:23:12.660 soul and spirit, joint and marry. So what it's talking about is God's 338 00:23:12.700 --> 00:23:18.339 words ability to get in and to do a surgeon's job. God's word will 339 00:23:18.380 --> 00:23:22.740 cut through the mass, it will cut through the lies, it'll cut through 340 00:23:22.980 --> 00:23:26.259 the bull crap, yeah, full crap and get right to it. And 341 00:23:26.339 --> 00:23:32.490 that's why we cannot, as sidewall counselors, as pregnancy center counselors, neglect 342 00:23:32.490 --> 00:23:34.130 the word of God. We cannot neglect the word of God. Now, 343 00:23:34.329 --> 00:23:37.730 that doesn't mean that we need to be constantly throwing Bible verses at people. 344 00:23:37.849 --> 00:23:41.480 Understand you know, there's we don't want to do that, Shoven the Gospel 345 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:47.200 downs people's throat through whatever. But everything that we say needs to be informed 346 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:51.640 by and seasoned with the word of God and we ought to be quote in 347 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:53.720 scripture. We ought to be saying, well, understand, your situation is 348 00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:56.430 such, but you know, the Bible says this. Right, he called 349 00:23:56.670 --> 00:24:00.589 word tells us. I know your situation is difficult, but Psalm Forty six 350 00:24:00.710 --> 00:24:04.950 one tells us God is a refuge in strength, a very present help in 351 00:24:06.190 --> 00:24:10.980 trouble. Right, and what you said undergirding everything that we do and say. 352 00:24:11.220 --> 00:24:14.779 So we may not even be quoting all these scriptures about trust. I 353 00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:18.579 don't know that I quote them very often about trust itself, but when I 354 00:24:18.700 --> 00:24:21.980 have that scripture in my heart and I'm familiar with it and I know what 355 00:24:22.059 --> 00:24:26.690 the Bible says about trust, I am more able to then go forth and 356 00:24:26.170 --> 00:24:30.289 know how to help them to trust in God. Yeah, altimate. Yeah, 357 00:24:30.289 --> 00:24:33.970 because you know, it's believers. We need to have assurance in the 358 00:24:33.170 --> 00:24:36.809 Lord that we can. You know, you can't give what you don't have 359 00:24:37.170 --> 00:24:40.559 exactly. And so if you're trying to convey to an abortion amounted woman, 360 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.240 a woman at an abortion clinic, that she needs to trust God, if 361 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.319 you don't have trust in him right yourself right, you can have a hard 362 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.119 time convinced her to trust the Lord. So you should be sure of God's 363 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:52.710 word yourself and of course, if you're a believer, you are in God's 364 00:24:52.750 --> 00:24:56.349 helping you more and more to trust him. Yeah, but we need to 365 00:24:56.430 --> 00:24:59.910 be in God's Word on regular basis, and I want to encourage people with 366 00:25:00.109 --> 00:25:03.710 too, and this is what we encourage our sidewalk counselors here with. You 367 00:25:03.869 --> 00:25:07.069 got to be in constant fellowship with the Lord, because this Ministry is not 368 00:25:07.109 --> 00:25:08.779 a ministry you're going to be able to do out of your own strength. 369 00:25:10.180 --> 00:25:11.420 You're not going to be able to do it out of your own wisdom and 370 00:25:11.579 --> 00:25:15.339 the world's wisdom. As much as medical science might be on our on our 371 00:25:15.420 --> 00:25:19.140 side, and it is Yep, medical science is not going to change a 372 00:25:19.180 --> 00:25:23.009 human heart that's bent on doing something very selfish. It never says in the 373 00:25:23.049 --> 00:25:27.170 Bible that I could find trust in medical science. Never. No, I'm 374 00:25:27.250 --> 00:25:30.289 not saying that medical science, again, is not on our side. It 375 00:25:30.369 --> 00:25:33.410 is. It is, and I'm not saying that it's not a tool that 376 00:25:33.490 --> 00:25:37.799 we can use. We certainly can. That's one of our what we call 377 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.839 our three talking points when we're taught, when we're teaching side what counsels is 378 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.039 fetal development. We get that from medical science, right, right. The 379 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.000 humanity of the baby can be proven scientifically. Exactly. Yeah, but what 380 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:51.670 does that even matter? If you think about it, what does the humanity 381 00:25:51.750 --> 00:25:55.829 of the baby even matter if God's not brought into the equation? You're just 382 00:25:55.990 --> 00:26:00.309 talking about killing another animal anyway. Yeah, so God has to be brought 383 00:26:00.309 --> 00:26:03.390 into the equation. God's word doesn't mean, again, that we can't use 384 00:26:03.470 --> 00:26:07.339 some of these things to our advantage. We can and we should. But 385 00:26:07.420 --> 00:26:11.259 if God's words not brought into the equation, then nothing else has the ability 386 00:26:11.299 --> 00:26:15.940 as God's word does, to change the human heart. These women have to 387 00:26:17.019 --> 00:26:22.410 see from yeah, I think the Holy Spirit shows it to him that they 388 00:26:22.490 --> 00:26:25.890 can't trust the abortion industry, they can't trust, ultimately, the devil. 389 00:26:26.569 --> 00:26:30.849 They need to trust the Lord. They need to trust what God says about 390 00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:33.759 them, about their baby, about their situation, rather than the abortion industry. 391 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.319 Yeah, and the people that God has sent. They need to they 392 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.599 need to listen to I had a woman a couple of days ago who, 393 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:45.759 when I asked her about what brought her here and what her obstacles were, 394 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:52.150 she said basically that it was all about her. Yeah, but then she 395 00:26:52.549 --> 00:26:56.109 said that she knew in her heart that this was the right thing to do 396 00:26:56.910 --> 00:27:03.380 and and that before God her heart, he knew her heart. That's what 397 00:27:03.500 --> 00:27:07.500 she said. He knows my heart. I said, well, do you 398 00:27:07.579 --> 00:27:10.660 know what the Bible says? He says about your heart. Yeah, and 399 00:27:11.220 --> 00:27:14.660 and I started quoting about the hardest deceitful above all else. And and I 400 00:27:14.819 --> 00:27:18.329 I asked her the series of questions. Have you ever lied, stolen lust 401 00:27:18.369 --> 00:27:23.769 it after someone spoken ill of someone, and and and she said that she 402 00:27:23.890 --> 00:27:26.049 had to all of those. And I said, what do you think your 403 00:27:26.089 --> 00:27:32.680 heart looks like in reality then, and and she agreed that maybe her heart 404 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:36.200 didn't look as good as as she thought, that it did. So that's 405 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:40.440 kind of an example of using scripture to kind of bring someone to the conclusion 406 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.119 that their belief was wrong, where they were trusting in their heart was just 407 00:27:44.910 --> 00:27:48.789 wrong. Yeah, and what don't want you guys that are listening to understand, 408 00:27:48.950 --> 00:27:52.230 because we're talking, you know, heavy about using the word of God, 409 00:27:52.309 --> 00:27:55.269 we're talking about how the word of God comes against lies and we're talking 410 00:27:55.269 --> 00:28:00.500 about wielding the sword of the spirit. But again, we're up against a 411 00:28:00.859 --> 00:28:07.700 lot and they've been told we're a bunch of angry protesters whatever. So that's 412 00:28:07.740 --> 00:28:10.019 why we need to be careful in the way that we like you, can 413 00:28:10.140 --> 00:28:12.849 convey certain truths, like what you're talking about, showing someone that their heart 414 00:28:14.250 --> 00:28:18.490 is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Yeah, and you can do 415 00:28:18.609 --> 00:28:22.369 it very graciously, you can do it in a way where you're not just 416 00:28:22.569 --> 00:28:26.450 accusing and pointing the finger. See, biblically, we have to come from 417 00:28:26.450 --> 00:28:30.519 a position of we've sinned and fallen short of the glory of God as well, 418 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.839 we've failed the Lord as well and we need a savior as well. 419 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:41.119 Right, and even though we're not living in sin, we came from a 420 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:44.829 lifestyle of sin. We need to come from a perspective of we're no better 421 00:28:44.869 --> 00:28:51.190 apart from Christ, then they are right and we can speak graciously into situations 422 00:28:51.509 --> 00:28:55.509 like that because we see hey set for the grace of God, I'd be 423 00:28:55.589 --> 00:28:57.180 right where you are exactly, you know. So when we're speaking from that 424 00:28:57.299 --> 00:29:03.420 perspective we're speaking graciously and I think it is as much as people might minimize 425 00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:07.099 that. I think tone does matter, the tone of voice that we use. 426 00:29:07.819 --> 00:29:11.329 It goes a long way and I think there's there's a proverb that speaks 427 00:29:11.369 --> 00:29:14.130 to that. I quit this proverb a lot to our side Walt counselors and 428 00:29:14.210 --> 00:29:17.369 other people who are not our sidebalt counselors who would I would like for them 429 00:29:17.450 --> 00:29:19.410 not to be so so loud and obnoxious in the way that they talk. 430 00:29:19.809 --> 00:29:23.920 Yes, is the proverb that says if you bless your brother early in the 431 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.200 morning loudly, it will be perceived as a curse. Basically, what it's 432 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.160 saying is you can say as nice as stuff as you want, if you 433 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.279 say that the wrong time and in the wrong volume, it's not going to 434 00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:37.160 be received as a blessing, it's going to be received as a curse. 435 00:29:37.750 --> 00:29:41.589 So our tone does matter. Yeah, our tone, accept the tone. 436 00:29:41.789 --> 00:29:45.990 That's what we say. Your tone sets the tone in your time and can 437 00:29:45.069 --> 00:29:48.509 matter. You know, you look and you pray for those opportune times in 438 00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:52.339 a conversation with a mom who's come over and talk to you or with the 439 00:29:52.420 --> 00:29:56.619 mom who's stopped her vehicle and pulled over to talk to you on the side 440 00:29:56.619 --> 00:30:00.059 of the road. You look for those opportune times to introduce the conviction of 441 00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:04.259 sin, the reality. You know, I've spoken, I mean very forthrightly, 442 00:30:04.339 --> 00:30:07.250 with men in front of the abortion clinic about their sexual sin. Yeah, 443 00:30:07.250 --> 00:30:11.930 about their guilt before God and their manipulation of women. I mean I've 444 00:30:11.970 --> 00:30:15.890 encountered men that have taken three and four women to the abortion clinic because they 445 00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:18.849 got them pregnant, having second south out of her. But I'll wait for 446 00:30:18.930 --> 00:30:22.000 the opportune time not to tell them that they're a filthy, wretched center, 447 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.839 but to let them tell themselves. That's what I like so much as effective 448 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.720 thing, to really ask questions and let them draw their own conclusion. Yeah, 449 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.440 listening to watching Rad Comfort Videos, U see, that's exactly what he 450 00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.869 does. He's taking them through the law and he says, have you ever 451 00:30:38.029 --> 00:30:41.549 lied? Yeah, well, what does that make you? And that's a 452 00:30:41.670 --> 00:30:44.869 really good method. You're asking questions, you're drawing it out of them. 453 00:30:44.950 --> 00:30:51.420 They're seeing and in hearing from their own mouth their guilt before God for their 454 00:30:51.539 --> 00:30:53.220 sin. Right, yeah, and it that's a that's a helpful way, 455 00:30:53.259 --> 00:30:57.779 in a very gracious but fourth right way to address these issues. Yeah, 456 00:30:57.819 --> 00:31:03.259 yeah, well, so let's look at some of these becauses now. The 457 00:31:03.380 --> 00:31:06.809 first one is from proverbs. Proverbs, it's so good. Yeah, proverbs 458 00:31:06.890 --> 00:31:11.769 three, five, trust in the Lord with all your heart and do not 459 00:31:11.930 --> 00:31:15.569 lean on your own understanding. Yeah, so that's they're leaning on their own 460 00:31:15.569 --> 00:31:18.519 understanding, right. Or Yeah, trust in the Lord with all of your 461 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.359 heart and I lean on your own understanding and all of your ways. Acknowledge 462 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.079 Him and he would direct your right. Yeah, passed. So that's a 463 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.039 scripture. Erect it. Yeah, right, you direct your path, you 464 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.470 follow your heart, you follow your ways, you end up in an abortion 465 00:31:33.509 --> 00:31:37.190 clinic, you follow the Lord and he'll direct your path. He'll direct your 466 00:31:37.230 --> 00:31:40.549 path out of the abortion clinic. And so this is a scripture that talks 467 00:31:40.589 --> 00:31:45.029 about trust and it really contrasts with the trust that a woman has an abortion 468 00:31:45.349 --> 00:31:49.099 and the abortion industry with the trust that she should have in the Lord. 469 00:31:49.099 --> 00:31:53.339 And I think this is an important scripture to remind these mothers about that God 470 00:31:53.420 --> 00:31:56.980 can be trusted and you ought to trust it. Yeah, and this one 471 00:31:56.220 --> 00:32:00.740 is one that I actually will say to the women quite often. For one, 472 00:32:00.779 --> 00:32:02.849 it's one of the few I remember. I'm not very good memorization, 473 00:32:02.930 --> 00:32:07.970 but it's such a good one, it's so appropriate. So the next one. 474 00:32:07.329 --> 00:32:13.170 Blessed is the man who trust in the Lord. Whose Trust is the 475 00:32:13.329 --> 00:32:17.599 Lord Jeremiah, seventeen seven. Yeah, and you know what we're talking about 476 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.160 when we're talking about trusted in the Lords? We're talking about the character of 477 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.799 God. Really, you know, if you think about trust, what is 478 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:30.869 it? It's really a faith in the character of that entity or that person 479 00:32:31.750 --> 00:32:37.309 that you're trusting. Right. Yeah, and I think as sidewalk counselors, 480 00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:39.710 one of the things that we can do to help women to see that they 481 00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:43.869 can trust the Lord, and I think, I know this is very biblical, 482 00:32:44.339 --> 00:32:49.220 is to share testimonies, to share stories about what God has done in 483 00:32:49.299 --> 00:32:52.339 certain situations. I mean, one of the ways that I will try to 484 00:32:52.420 --> 00:32:55.579 gain trust from people as I'm talking to him or even as I'm talking on 485 00:32:55.619 --> 00:32:59.730 the microphone, is sharing with them. Listen, I've seen women in your 486 00:32:59.809 --> 00:33:04.529 situation and I've seen God do amazing things. Would you come over and just 487 00:33:04.730 --> 00:33:07.849 let me show you some of the help that God has available for I am 488 00:33:07.890 --> 00:33:10.849 a woman who was in your situation and I did what you did and I 489 00:33:12.009 --> 00:33:15.680 know the pain and sorrow. But let me tell you about how God changed 490 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:21.079 my life and changed me and brought set me on a solid path. Yeah, 491 00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:23.519 I might and right. And so you're sick. You're sharing these stories 492 00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:28.990 and you're sharing these testimonies because you're establishing, helping, establishing their mind the 493 00:33:29.069 --> 00:33:30.910 character of this God that you're talking about, that he is good, that 494 00:33:31.029 --> 00:33:37.390 he does care, that he is able to cause dramatic, radical change in 495 00:33:37.549 --> 00:33:40.539 your life that you maybe have never felt her seen before. And if you 496 00:33:40.819 --> 00:33:45.619 have experienced that, we all know that every true believer who speaks of that 497 00:33:45.779 --> 00:33:51.779 transformative power of Christ in their own life is compelling. People want that, 498 00:33:52.099 --> 00:33:55.089 people are on to that. Yeah, and if you look in the Old 499 00:33:55.170 --> 00:34:00.049 Testament, you look at some of the psalms and you look at how the 500 00:34:00.130 --> 00:34:06.410 Psalmist recounts the faithfulness of God and even recounting the exodus from Egypt and how 501 00:34:06.490 --> 00:34:09.440 God had been faithful to bring his people into the promised land. What is 502 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:15.119 he doing? What's The psalmist doing there? He's conveying the faithfulness of God 503 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.840 to the people that are reading and singing this psalm and they're singing about the 504 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.400 faithfulness of God. If you think about a lot of our songs in Church, 505 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:25.429 they surround the faithfulness in the goodness of God and what God has brought 506 00:34:25.469 --> 00:34:29.789 us from, what God has done in our lives. Yeah, and all 507 00:34:29.869 --> 00:34:31.789 through the scripture we see this common thread of what God has done. Look 508 00:34:31.789 --> 00:34:35.909 what the Lord has done, look at the faithfulness of God, and that's 509 00:34:35.949 --> 00:34:40.019 all there to help us and remind us that this God that we're talking about, 510 00:34:40.059 --> 00:34:44.659 we're trying to encourage people to trust in, is good, he's faithful, 511 00:34:44.659 --> 00:34:46.619 that he comes through, that he can be trusted, so trust him, 512 00:34:46.619 --> 00:34:50.739 you know. Yeah, and it's a theme in Scriptures, a very 513 00:34:50.780 --> 00:34:53.250 common thing. It is in a counterpoint to that which I do sometimes tell 514 00:34:53.289 --> 00:34:58.570 the women is now contrast that that picture of God that has just been painted 515 00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:01.409 with. When you trusted in yourself, when you trust it in your own 516 00:35:01.449 --> 00:35:07.480 choices, when you trusted in your own solutions. Where have they brought you? 517 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.760 Yeah, and they brought them to a place of death and destruction, 518 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:15.480 and they all know that. That's undeniable and most of them don't want to 519 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.039 be there. Right. I would say none of them truly want to be 520 00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:23.429 there. So anyway. So the next one and Psalm fifty six, three 521 00:35:23.590 --> 00:35:28.030 to four, and then verse thirteen in that Psalm. Some fifty six. 522 00:35:28.309 --> 00:35:31.190 Okay, when I am afraid, I put my trust in you, in 523 00:35:31.429 --> 00:35:36.179 God, who's where I praise. In God, I trust. I shall 524 00:35:36.260 --> 00:35:40.739 not be afraid. What can flesh do to me, for you have delivered 525 00:35:40.940 --> 00:35:45.539 my soul from death, yes, my feet from falling, that I may 526 00:35:45.659 --> 00:35:49.619 walk before God in the light of life. So there's a there's a psalm, 527 00:35:49.980 --> 00:35:53.369 just like something about David recounting the faithfulness of God. You have done 528 00:35:53.489 --> 00:35:57.690 this, therefore, I know I can trust you've been faith in the past. 529 00:35:57.769 --> 00:36:00.730 Therefore I can trust you in the future. And when I'm afraid, 530 00:36:00.929 --> 00:36:04.090 to which these women, I think, relate to that, I mean they 531 00:36:04.130 --> 00:36:07.320 are, they are giving into fear nine times out of town. Oh, 532 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.199 absolutely. So we can remind them of the faithfulness of God. Yeah, 533 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.159 we can remind them of the faithfulness of God in the Scriptures. We conminded 534 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.750 them of certain scriptures where God came through in the Scriptures. Also the faithfulness 535 00:36:19.750 --> 00:36:22.230 of God in our own lives, the faithfulness of God. I remember I 536 00:36:22.469 --> 00:36:27.550 shared a couple of podcasts go about the young lady who, by God's grace, 537 00:36:27.590 --> 00:36:30.469 and we talked about man and can man be effective administer and how God's 538 00:36:30.510 --> 00:36:32.820 Great. By God's grace, she chose life and one of the things that 539 00:36:32.980 --> 00:36:37.579 God used is meet reminding her about the faithfulness of God in her life and 540 00:36:37.619 --> 00:36:40.780 how God has been faithful in the past and how God had lined things up 541 00:36:40.860 --> 00:36:44.460 in her life in such a way where she could actually have this baby and 542 00:36:44.539 --> 00:36:46.170 have her needs met, and all of this because she had given you enough 543 00:36:46.210 --> 00:36:51.570 information that you were able to to zone in on. Yeah, Hey, 544 00:36:51.650 --> 00:36:54.130 there's an example of God's faithfulness in this student's life and you're probably storing that 545 00:36:54.210 --> 00:36:58.329 in your head, thinking I need to speak to her. Yeah, absolutely, 546 00:36:59.050 --> 00:37:01.760 and it's important to remind people of the faithfulness of God. Hey, 547 00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:07.400 as believers, it's important for us to remind each other of the faithfulness of 548 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.079 God. Sometimes I need to be reminded when I'm down, when I'm in 549 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:15.630 a difficult situation, when I'm dealing with just the anxiety of whatever stress going 550 00:37:15.670 --> 00:37:20.269 on, I need to be reminded of the faithfulness of God. That's why 551 00:37:20.309 --> 00:37:22.869 it's important for us to be in church and hear the word of God's why 552 00:37:22.949 --> 00:37:25.469 is important for us to encourage one another daily, as long as it's called 553 00:37:25.510 --> 00:37:29.230 today, as the Bible says, because we, even his believers, need 554 00:37:29.269 --> 00:37:35.019 to be reminded. Listen, your future is unsure, unclear, like everybody's 555 00:37:35.019 --> 00:37:37.619 future is. No one knows the future, but God does, and God, 556 00:37:37.739 --> 00:37:40.780 who has been faithful in the past, will be faithful in the future, 557 00:37:42.019 --> 00:37:45.449 and that is an important truth for us to convey to an abortion minded 558 00:37:45.530 --> 00:37:47.730 mom. Again, we're dealing with majority, at least here in the south. 559 00:37:47.969 --> 00:37:52.050 The majority of these women have been in church. Majority of these women 560 00:37:52.650 --> 00:37:55.769 know things about the Lord, right, and so we're reminding them of things 561 00:37:55.849 --> 00:38:00.119 that they'd already known. Yeah, so that ultimately, again, they take 562 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:05.159 the trust that they've put into the abortion clinic and abortion and invest that trust 563 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.519 actually in the Lord. Yeah, and one of the things that they're losing 564 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:13.550 side, if I do think is is eternity and what's happening to their soul 565 00:38:13.869 --> 00:38:16.230 as they're making choices to rebel against God. They know it's a choice to 566 00:38:16.309 --> 00:38:21.030 rebel against God almost overwhelmingly, and I love in in this palm where it 567 00:38:21.110 --> 00:38:25.590 says for you have delivered my soul from death. So reminding them again who 568 00:38:27.110 --> 00:38:31.860 really holds eternity, your eternity in his hand. It's not the abortionist. 569 00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:36.579 Yeah, it's God. And do you really want to make a choice that 570 00:38:36.820 --> 00:38:40.849 is going to draw you further from God or closer to God? Well, 571 00:38:40.889 --> 00:38:44.250 you know, I think with this, I mean we've gone through a lot 572 00:38:44.329 --> 00:38:47.210 of scripture. I think we've laid out a good spiritual case about how we 573 00:38:47.409 --> 00:38:52.889 asside counsel as we as ministers in and pro life, in a pro life 574 00:38:52.929 --> 00:38:57.199 capacity, can help an abortion minded mom to take the trust that she's put 575 00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.679 in the abortion clinic and put that trust in the Lord. I hope we've 576 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.119 given you guys some principles, at least from our experience, and I think 577 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.199 we've got more to share on this topic. Yeah, so we'll do a 578 00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.190 part two to this because we can't go much longer, right, but we'll 579 00:39:09.230 --> 00:39:14.230 do a part two and hopefully this was a blessing you guys, and we 580 00:39:14.309 --> 00:39:17.949 appreciate you listening appreciate you guys that share this podcast. Please continue to share 581 00:39:17.989 --> 00:39:22.030 this podcast send us ideas about future podcasts. 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