June 4, 2020

Helping Abortion-minded Women Trust the Lord - Part 1

Helping Abortion-minded Women Trust the Lord - Part 1

As pro-life ministers, we're fighting an uphill battle in trying to convince an abortion-minded woman to trust the Lord rather than abortion. The scripture does give us some wisdom on this subject. Join Vicky and Daniel as they share from the...


As pro-life ministers, we're fighting an uphill battle in trying to convince an abortion-minded woman to trust the Lord rather than abortion. The scripture does give us some wisdom on this subject. Join Vicky and Daniel as they share from the scriptures and their experiences on the subject of trust.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.160 I am yours. I am yours. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:08.789 podcast and this episode we're going to talk about trust. When we encounter an 3 00:00:08.789 --> 00:00:12.990 abortion minded woman, she has put her trust in abortion. It's our job 4 00:00:13.070 --> 00:00:16.109 to help her take that trust out of abortion and put it in the Lord. 5 00:00:16.469 --> 00:00:18.670 But how do we, as pro life ministers, do that? We 6 00:00:18.789 --> 00:00:21.460 believe the scripture has a lot to say about this, so stick with us. 7 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:37.210 I felt show passis touch your welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. 8 00:00:37.369 --> 00:00:40.329 WHO This podcast is a blessing to you. We're going to talk about 9 00:00:40.329 --> 00:00:45.929 trust today. It's an important issue and of course we're going to talk about 10 00:00:45.929 --> 00:00:48.729 it and lie of the ministry that we're involved in on a regular basis, 11 00:00:48.770 --> 00:00:53.039 which is sidewall counseling. But I think this, this rings true and the 12 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:57.240 things we're going to talk about ring true. And really, any ministry be 13 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.000 involved in, when you're dealing with abortion minded women and people just in difficult 14 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:06.469 situations, trust is always an issue, right. I mean whether you're talking 15 00:01:06.510 --> 00:01:11.989 about again abortion, mind of women or even just marital issues and mom and 16 00:01:11.109 --> 00:01:15.510 dad to their kids, kind of issues, any issue, trust is a 17 00:01:15.590 --> 00:01:21.099 big deal and in the scripture it's also an important deal. Right, there's 18 00:01:21.219 --> 00:01:23.219 all kinds of scripture. We're going to get into some of those that talk 19 00:01:23.299 --> 00:01:27.459 about trust, but let me kind of set the stage where what we're talking 20 00:01:27.540 --> 00:01:33.609 about, because again we're primarily talking about in a sidewalk counseling realm or maybe 21 00:01:33.689 --> 00:01:38.609 even in a pregnancy center or some other kind of prolife ministry, is we're 22 00:01:38.650 --> 00:01:42.489 talking about the trust, and this is kind of what we come up against, 23 00:01:42.609 --> 00:01:48.719 that a woman has in abortion, in the abortion industry, and what 24 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:53.079 I mean by that is that she's put a certain level of trust in abortion 25 00:01:53.200 --> 00:02:00.159 to fix her situation right, and she's trusting abortion to make the relationship with 26 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.989 her boyfriend better or husband better, to calm the storm that's going on in 27 00:02:05.109 --> 00:02:09.469 her life. She's put her trust in abortion and thereby put her trust in 28 00:02:09.469 --> 00:02:13.710 the abortion industry. Right. That seems to be that's what's going to change 29 00:02:13.710 --> 00:02:16.659 her life and make it all right again. Yeah, it's what we've got 30 00:02:16.780 --> 00:02:20.419 to do, and this is a dynamic that I thought would be a blessing 31 00:02:20.460 --> 00:02:24.060 to you guys to understand, is we've got to try, as sidewalk counselors, 32 00:02:24.219 --> 00:02:30.009 as prolife pregnancy center counselors. We've got to try to counsel these women 33 00:02:30.050 --> 00:02:35.729 and to take in that investment, if you will, of trust out of 34 00:02:36.050 --> 00:02:39.090 the abortion clinic, out of the abortion industry, out of abortion, and 35 00:02:39.330 --> 00:02:43.849 put that trust in, you know, in us, but really in the 36 00:02:44.009 --> 00:02:47.039 Lord. Right. Basically we're trying to gain their trust. Right, if 37 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:52.319 they did it, because if they don't put their trust initially in us over 38 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:55.039 the abortion center, there's no reason to listen to us. No one listens 39 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:59.909 to someone they don't trust. Yeah, so our goal is, of course, 40 00:03:00.030 --> 00:03:04.389 to transfer that trust ultimately to God, but first of all they they 41 00:03:04.509 --> 00:03:07.389 have to feel they will trust us enough to hear what we have to say. 42 00:03:07.430 --> 00:03:13.819 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So what are some of the challenges than 43 00:03:13.900 --> 00:03:17.539 that we're dealing with? We're coming up against some challenges and we're at a 44 00:03:19.580 --> 00:03:23.219 pretty grave disadvantage, especially standing in front of an abortion clinic. Yeah, 45 00:03:23.219 --> 00:03:25.219 we really are coming to the abortion center, right, right. What are 46 00:03:25.300 --> 00:03:29.969 some of the challenge? Yeah, well, I looked on the website of 47 00:03:30.569 --> 00:03:35.370 our local, very busy abortion center and here is the first big challenge. 48 00:03:35.490 --> 00:03:39.050 So these women don't go looking for sidewalk counselors that can write, that can 49 00:03:39.129 --> 00:03:44.240 give them an another, you know, different option other than we're not coming 50 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:47.039 to the abortion clinic because they're hoping to sidewall counselor will be there right right. 51 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:51.599 Have had people come because they knew they knew that the mobile unit would 52 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:53.680 be there. They knew it would be would be out there right right. 53 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:57.830 We praise God for that. But primarily they're not coming to the abortion clinic 54 00:03:58.310 --> 00:04:00.870 because they want to encounter us right, coming for abortion, right exactly. 55 00:04:00.909 --> 00:04:06.469 And and so so let's look at how the abortion center first of all presents 56 00:04:06.509 --> 00:04:10.819 themselves. Ye, to because in order to gain gain their trusts. This 57 00:04:11.139 --> 00:04:15.259 this is a quote from the website of the abortion center. Our physicians are 58 00:04:15.379 --> 00:04:21.339 some of the most experienced abortion providers in the southeast. Our staff has provided 59 00:04:21.339 --> 00:04:27.449 abortion care to over a hundred thousand patients during the past twenty years. Yeah, 60 00:04:27.810 --> 00:04:30.610 as though that something to brag about. Right. Honestly, it is. 61 00:04:30.689 --> 00:04:36.970 Okay. Registered nurses and medical assistants with years of abortion experience compliment and 62 00:04:38.089 --> 00:04:45.199 assist are very experienced medical staff. Many of our counselors have backgrounds in psychology, 63 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:49.360 social work and medical office environments. All of our councilors are sincere, 64 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:57.230 caring women who are committed to helping each individual patient complete their treatment with the 65 00:04:57.310 --> 00:05:02.550 best possible emotional, spiritual and physical spiritual alms. Yeah, you know, 66 00:05:02.870 --> 00:05:06.420 a word comes to mind as you read all of that. Yeah, and 67 00:05:06.420 --> 00:05:12.060 I hope I don't have to beat this out. BULLCRAT. That's bullcrap. 68 00:05:13.300 --> 00:05:16.939 We who know what really happens. But just look at let's just examine. 69 00:05:17.139 --> 00:05:21.089 Yeah, their language in good luck, this is some excellent language. They 70 00:05:21.209 --> 00:05:29.730 know what they're doing where. We don't want to underestimate the the craftiness of 71 00:05:29.850 --> 00:05:32.329 the abortion center. They are very good, of course, at at drawing 72 00:05:32.970 --> 00:05:38.279 people in and into trusting them. Yeah, so, well, this is 73 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:42.319 what we have to understand to is that we're dealing with again, a a 74 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:46.560 for profit company. Right, well, plant parent, who it's not? 75 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.269 They say they're not for profit, but they make make off of killing children. 76 00:05:49.430 --> 00:05:53.149 GO MONEY ON UM number. We know that. So we're dealing with 77 00:05:53.230 --> 00:05:57.189 that. And so I say that so that people understand. These are salesmen 78 00:05:57.350 --> 00:06:00.870 and these are sale is tactics, and and a sales tactic is to gain 79 00:06:00.990 --> 00:06:05.540 people's trust. Yeah, boy, Hey, we have this amount of experience. 80 00:06:05.699 --> 00:06:09.540 Yeah, yeah, and and something that a lot of people don't know. 81 00:06:09.620 --> 00:06:14.220 I certainly didn't know this until some of the abortion workers who left confided 82 00:06:14.300 --> 00:06:16.899 in me and talked with me and told me that they have quotas at the 83 00:06:17.019 --> 00:06:23.449 call center, quotas for how many abortions they have to book or they're retaught. 84 00:06:23.850 --> 00:06:29.449 Okay, they're re edguy condition and then ultimately fired if they don't meet 85 00:06:29.449 --> 00:06:31.449 their quota of abortions. I mean, how sick is that? Yeah, 86 00:06:31.529 --> 00:06:34.120 well, sounds like it's broads. Yeah, because again, you're talking about 87 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:38.240 a business that makes a lot of money off would right, right. So 88 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:43.120 notice how their building trust in their prospective clients. They paint this rosy picture 89 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:48.509 of time tested success. Yeah, twenty years, why you have killing hundred 90 00:06:48.750 --> 00:06:53.470 thousand babies. Yeah, and this is a glowing recommendation, because they know 91 00:06:53.550 --> 00:06:58.230 what they're doing. Apparently. In this business, the doctors are described as 92 00:06:58.269 --> 00:07:04.379 experienced, the staff are are described as caring, sincere, committed to helping 93 00:07:04.579 --> 00:07:09.699 and the best possible outcomes. So all that language, not once does it 94 00:07:09.819 --> 00:07:13.540 describe what happens in an abortion. Of course not. Nowhere on the website 95 00:07:13.579 --> 00:07:16.769 can you find the abortionist name and look up the record of the abortionists. 96 00:07:16.850 --> 00:07:20.290 Right nowhere. Even if you call an ass they do mean in one sense, 97 00:07:20.329 --> 00:07:24.769 they're talking about their providers, in their you know, abortionists, in 98 00:07:24.810 --> 00:07:28.170 their staff and all of that. You got to take our we're for it, 99 00:07:28.209 --> 00:07:30.920 because they're not going to. This is what the abortion clinics convey and 100 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.439 you got to take our word for it that these people are experienced, because 101 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.560 we're not going to tell you who they are. Right. So they are 102 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:39.800 actually come into the room, right and any abortion and you get the idea 103 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:44.199 that maybe, maybe, you know you're getting this really wonderful, compassionate doctor. 104 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.230 Yeah, but what do we learn from this, though, as we're 105 00:07:46.269 --> 00:07:51.870 thinking about okay, we're dealing with women in crisis situation, right, yeah, 106 00:07:53.110 --> 00:07:58.470 and anybody in a crisis situation you're looking for something to grab hold of, 107 00:07:58.509 --> 00:08:01.220 you're looking for some kind of hope, you're looking for some kind of 108 00:08:01.300 --> 00:08:05.300 remedy, you're looking for some were or somebody that you can go to to 109 00:08:05.379 --> 00:08:09.019 help make the situation better. So that's really scared and you're scared and you 110 00:08:09.100 --> 00:08:13.209 know it hurts because you've heard from your friends, so you know it hurts. 111 00:08:13.250 --> 00:08:16.329 So so the picture of their painting is one that is designed to damp 112 00:08:16.410 --> 00:08:20.209 in their fears and paint a picture that is not at all scary, not 113 00:08:20.370 --> 00:08:24.449 at all paint well it least. You know, in one sense, the 114 00:08:24.490 --> 00:08:28.519 abortion industry is playing on the fear of the future, the fear of having 115 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:30.920 a baby, the fear of all of this, and trying to say well, 116 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:33.159 after all, having an abortion. I mean that's the picture that the 117 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:37.639 abortion industry paints and some of them, I've heard pro choice people say this. 118 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.590 It's less invasive to have an abortion procedure than it is to have a 119 00:08:41.669 --> 00:08:45.230 baby. So, you know, trust abortion, trust the abortion industry, 120 00:08:45.590 --> 00:08:50.350 because all your fears will be taken away, all the things and anxiety that 121 00:08:50.389 --> 00:08:54.230 you have your fast Cera Lot come best possible comes spiritually, yeah too. 122 00:08:54.779 --> 00:09:01.820 So how can we take what they have put there, HMM, and use 123 00:09:01.179 --> 00:09:05.940 that? Now, I'm not saying that we use the enemies tactics, but 124 00:09:05.139 --> 00:09:11.129 I am saying is within this language, is sort of what we recognize as 125 00:09:11.450 --> 00:09:15.970 how we, as human beings, would communicate to someone who's in a crisis 126 00:09:16.049 --> 00:09:20.490 like we want to let them know that we have experience in dealing with their 127 00:09:20.570 --> 00:09:24.090 issues. We want to let them know that you, in one sense, 128 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.279 okay, you've got chaos going on in your life and we got some solutions 129 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.720 for you. Right. Yeah, and in one sense, you know, 130 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.879 that's what a sidewalk counsel is, that's what a pregnancy center counselor is is. 131 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.149 We're trying to counsel them through a situation. We're trying to show them 132 00:09:39.230 --> 00:09:43.909 that there are solutions and that there is ultimately, from our perspective, a 133 00:09:43.990 --> 00:09:48.269 God that they can trust to carry through with this situation and bring about the 134 00:09:48.509 --> 00:09:52.500 best possible outcome. Right. And and so the abortion center, of course, 135 00:09:52.620 --> 00:09:56.700 knows we have a solution that is not abortion, and they they know 136 00:09:56.820 --> 00:10:01.019 that we're effective at it. So we have another layer, though, that 137 00:10:01.179 --> 00:10:03.659 we have to first overcome, not only the language that they have read and 138 00:10:03.740 --> 00:10:07.769 the counseling they've received from the abortion center, but they tell them there will 139 00:10:07.769 --> 00:10:15.090 be protesters, called protesters. They they tell them just drive past, don't 140 00:10:15.129 --> 00:10:18.610 talk to them, that they tell them that we're mean. I had someone 141 00:10:18.730 --> 00:10:22.080 come and say I was so surprised you, you're nice that they told me 142 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:24.679 you really mean and angry, and that wasn't what she saw, which is, 143 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.440 by the way, answers in part your question. We have to counter 144 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.799 that's another one of the her right. Right, we encounter that's another one 145 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.629 of the things that we have to overcome. Yeah, know the fact that 146 00:10:37.909 --> 00:10:41.389 the abortion industry has this language and has encouraged now, hey, we have 147 00:10:41.509 --> 00:10:46.230 these these wonderful providers. All that, the fact that the abortion industry is 148 00:10:46.269 --> 00:10:48.269 told them the people on the sidewalk or just a bunch of angry, mean 149 00:10:48.389 --> 00:10:54.940 protesters. That's that's something else that we've got right to counter. Right the 150 00:10:54.460 --> 00:10:58.500 we've had some of the pro choice people, quote are quote, per choice 151 00:10:58.539 --> 00:11:01.259 people say that, you know, you lie to the women. You show 152 00:11:01.299 --> 00:11:07.409 them ultrasounds of Squirrel fetus their feet and that was a good so they've lied 153 00:11:07.450 --> 00:11:09.049 to these women. So we've got all we've got a pretty big challenge, 154 00:11:09.090 --> 00:11:15.570 especially with sidewall counselors, but even in a pregnancy center context, there's challenges 155 00:11:15.649 --> 00:11:20.039 there because again you're dealing with a woman who's afraid, who thinks, at 156 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:24.600 least in some measure, that abortion might be a solution for her. And 157 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.840 you've got a contrast really, and that's what we're doing. We're contrasting God's 158 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.909 way, yeah, with their way right. We're contrasting God's way, the 159 00:11:35.029 --> 00:11:37.590 right way, the hard way, yeah, with the world's way. The 160 00:11:37.669 --> 00:11:43.669 world is into quick fix solutions, take appeal, solve your problems. Just 161 00:11:43.830 --> 00:11:48.019 go and have this five minute procedures. Solve your problem, and God's way 162 00:11:48.100 --> 00:11:54.340 is trust me, and it doesn't seem clear where things are going to lead 163 00:11:54.340 --> 00:11:58.659 it. Ultimately you're trusting in God, right, and it's kind of like 164 00:11:58.220 --> 00:12:01.370 you're in a storm. This is how I describe it when I'm talking to 165 00:12:01.409 --> 00:12:05.049 women at the abortion clinic or talking to men. You're in a storm and 166 00:12:05.129 --> 00:12:07.809 there's this storm of life, and we're going to get into a little bit 167 00:12:07.809 --> 00:12:11.049 of scripture talking about the storm and talking about disciple being in the storm. 168 00:12:11.090 --> 00:12:15.009 But you're in the storm and you can't see that there's a shore on the 169 00:12:15.049 --> 00:12:18.279 other side of that storm. Is You're paling this boat of life, and 170 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:22.440 we encourage them. There's a God that's over it all. It sees from 171 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.879 above the storm and he's calling you to trust him. And so that's the 172 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:30.629 message we're trying to convey. But again we've got some challenges that coming up 173 00:12:30.629 --> 00:12:33.190 again, very limited time and so well, that's another challenge, right, 174 00:12:33.230 --> 00:12:35.389 and that tells you, see, have time and did time. We sometimes 175 00:12:35.470 --> 00:12:39.909 only have as much as ten to fifteen seconds to begin to build that trust 176 00:12:39.309 --> 00:12:43.710 but one of the things, as you were speaking, that I believe is 177 00:12:43.110 --> 00:12:50.659 perhaps very important in any difficult situation when you've got choices to make, is 178 00:12:50.820 --> 00:12:56.059 to label the problem. And the problem here really is who are you gonna 179 00:12:56.379 --> 00:13:00.970 Trust? And I think sometimes just being very I've heard you over the microphone 180 00:13:01.049 --> 00:13:03.330 say this many times to them. Who are you going to trust? Are 181 00:13:03.450 --> 00:13:09.169 you going to trust God, or are you going to trust your own solutions 182 00:13:09.330 --> 00:13:13.240 that has brought you to the worst place on earth that you possibly could be 183 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.639 and never wanted to be? And so labeling the problem, that this is 184 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.600 a problem of trust and and pointing out their alternatives, what you just did. 185 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.389 You can trust God, or you can trust the abortion industry, or 186 00:13:26.429 --> 00:13:31.269 you can trust the abortion yeah, to and ultimately, of course, we 187 00:13:31.429 --> 00:13:35.789 know it's trusting the devil, it's trussing the enemy exactly their soul and sat 188 00:13:35.909 --> 00:13:39.750 me of their baby. Yeah, yeah. Well, one of the in 189 00:13:39.870 --> 00:13:43.860 my mind is I'm thinking about the hurdles that we have to overcome, some 190 00:13:43.980 --> 00:13:48.100 of the issues that we have to deal with and and what we're up against. 191 00:13:48.100 --> 00:13:52.059 And we're trying to convince an abortion minded mom not not even just to 192 00:13:52.100 --> 00:13:56.210 choose life, but just to come over and talk with us. Is the 193 00:13:56.330 --> 00:13:58.610 fact that she's already engaged. I mean I think there's, you know, 194 00:13:58.690 --> 00:14:03.450 within pregnancy centers are certain language they use. They talk about abortion minded women, 195 00:14:03.529 --> 00:14:07.690 abortion determined women. I think in one sense we're dealing with at an 196 00:14:07.730 --> 00:14:11.519 abortion clinic is we're dealing with an abortion engaged woman, like she's engaged in 197 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.240 the very act, like you can't get more close than being at an abortion 198 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.679 clinic to actually having an abortion. Her eyes are straight on that building which 199 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.120 someone is going to take the life of her baby and she had so many 200 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.029 times women have told me I agree with everything you say, but I've got 201 00:14:28.110 --> 00:14:31.750 an appointment. Yeah, they're focuses. I've got an appointment and that appointment 202 00:14:31.870 --> 00:14:35.389 is with death and nothing is going to determine so she's headed toward the abortion 203 00:14:35.470 --> 00:14:39.100 said when they encounter us. Yeah, they're headed toward the abortion center. 204 00:14:39.779 --> 00:14:43.419 They have their money in their hand YEP, and they've already gone through the 205 00:14:43.779 --> 00:14:48.340 counseling stuff over the phone off and so called counseling circle. Counsel. Trust 206 00:14:48.379 --> 00:14:52.889 the abortion inst to give a good day. Hey, they're good spiritual counsel. 207 00:14:54.009 --> 00:14:56.090 He is ridiculous, but anyway, they they've gone through that, they've 208 00:14:56.090 --> 00:15:00.289 got their money in their hand, they've been told there's these angry protesters. 209 00:15:00.409 --> 00:15:03.009 Don't stop for them. So really, I'm just paying the picture, guys. 210 00:15:03.169 --> 00:15:09.200 So the you understand, we're up against a pretty difficult challenge there. 211 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.480 Yet the miracle is that anyone ever chooses life, and I mean that's when 212 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:18.519 you're are, when someone even stops and talk exactly takes our literature or sue. 213 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:22.710 You know, I say that not to scare people off and not to 214 00:15:22.789 --> 00:15:24.549 say that we aren't effective out there. We certainly are. We've seen God 215 00:15:24.629 --> 00:15:28.830 do amazing things. Yeah, but the first and foremost set the stays that 216 00:15:28.950 --> 00:15:31.389 we understand. This is why we train our sidewalk counselors. Most importantly, 217 00:15:31.509 --> 00:15:35.899 that you need to be walking with God, like the we need God on 218 00:15:35.980 --> 00:15:37.740 our side. We need God to do the work, we need God to 219 00:15:37.820 --> 00:15:41.700 move their hearts, we need God to speak to their hearts. Yeah, 220 00:15:41.299 --> 00:15:46.179 and God does it. We see amazing things, but we also, I 221 00:15:46.299 --> 00:15:50.570 think, practically because we're up against so many challenges, because there's a trust 222 00:15:50.610 --> 00:15:54.370 at these women have already placed in the abortion industry, and the abortion industry 223 00:15:54.409 --> 00:15:58.570 is already told them not to trust us that we need to be intentional and 224 00:15:58.809 --> 00:16:03.730 careful in the way that we carry ourselves and the way that we talk. 225 00:16:03.169 --> 00:16:07.039 Like I don't want listen. I'm not crafting the things that I say and 226 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:11.279 things that I don't say based on what the abortion industry says. So I'm 227 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:15.360 not saying that we need to base what we say and how we do ministry 228 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.110 on the word of God. Primarily, right, that has to be our 229 00:16:18.509 --> 00:16:22.669 our central source for information, the word of God. So I'm not saying 230 00:16:23.190 --> 00:16:26.230 that we leave the word of out, out of the equation. I know 231 00:16:26.350 --> 00:16:29.549 there are some people that say that we shouldn't be talking about God until some 232 00:16:30.110 --> 00:16:33.259 certain point. We should mention scripture because it might, you know, stop 233 00:16:33.419 --> 00:16:37.539 them from coming and talk to US whatever. I think that's a ridiculous notion 234 00:16:37.700 --> 00:16:41.580 anyway, because most of the people going into the abortion clinic, clinic coming 235 00:16:41.700 --> 00:16:45.220 for abortions, will quote scripture to you. Right, that shall not judge. 236 00:16:45.299 --> 00:16:48.090 Yeah, that time, and you're you know, in one sense, 237 00:16:48.210 --> 00:16:51.889 when you're quote scripture, you're reminding them of things that they have known in 238 00:16:51.929 --> 00:16:53.889 their past. They've been in church, they've been exposed to things in the 239 00:16:53.929 --> 00:16:57.129 Bible belt. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, I say all that, it's 240 00:16:57.169 --> 00:17:03.000 a still yet we do need to be careful not to reinforce some of the 241 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:07.079 stuff the abortion clinic or the pro choice people have told them. Yeah, 242 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:11.079 for example, we need to make sure the information that we convey is correct 243 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.230 information, absolutely now to make sure that they do not ever catch us in 244 00:17:15.269 --> 00:17:18.630 a life. For one thing, it dishonors God to lie, but for 245 00:17:18.789 --> 00:17:23.190 another it just kind of supports what they are saying, reinforces what they you 246 00:17:23.230 --> 00:17:26.990 know, quote pro choice people with the pro abortion people have told them what 247 00:17:27.190 --> 00:17:30.220 the abortion clinic is told them. You know, they show them pictures of 248 00:17:30.299 --> 00:17:34.380 squirrel fetuses. They lie to them and tell them their baby is fully formed 249 00:17:34.460 --> 00:17:38.619 at, you know, six weeks or whatever. So we need to make 250 00:17:38.660 --> 00:17:45.009 sure that we're not doing that right. But we do need to convey information 251 00:17:45.130 --> 00:17:48.009 right. Again, it needs to be accurate information right. It needs to 252 00:17:48.049 --> 00:17:51.970 be in such a way where, again, we're not like, okay, 253 00:17:52.049 --> 00:17:56.970 I'll give you an example. I've heard people say on our sidewalk not are 254 00:17:56.130 --> 00:18:00.079 not cities for life people, because they because we're perfect. We're not. 255 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.240 But I'm telling you, I would correct this right away, but I've heard 256 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:07.680 people say they've got a fifty five gallon drum of dead babies in the back 257 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:10.359 of that abortion clinic? Ever heard? Somebody said, I have heard stuff 258 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:12.390 like that, but not from us. Yeah, yeah, like, no, 259 00:18:12.509 --> 00:18:15.950 they don't. Actually they don't have a few, but know if they 260 00:18:15.069 --> 00:18:18.109 did, because we're not allowed in there anyway, right. But I mean 261 00:18:18.150 --> 00:18:21.789 we've seen them take the boxes of that, you know, the baby, 262 00:18:21.910 --> 00:18:23.470 dead babies out, which is a grievous thing. Yeah, and so you 263 00:18:23.549 --> 00:18:29.500 might say they have. They put the babies in biohazard bag and thrown away 264 00:18:29.539 --> 00:18:33.740 you. We do say that that's true, but just what you're trying to 265 00:18:33.779 --> 00:18:37.539 do is you're trying, in one sense, to manipulate the facts and and 266 00:18:37.900 --> 00:18:41.059 bring a picture to the mine, and which I understand that we need to 267 00:18:41.099 --> 00:18:42.730 use words, we need to bring pictures to their mind. We need to 268 00:18:42.809 --> 00:18:48.890 be talking about the violence of abortion when appropriate, when necessary. We certainly 269 00:18:48.930 --> 00:18:52.329 do. But then bellish on that just chips away at any trust that we 270 00:18:52.369 --> 00:18:56.200 would normally have, because any reasonable minded person would know they don't have a 271 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.240 fifty five gallon drum a dead babies in the back of the right clinic. 272 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.160 And really the first picture that we paid for them as us our face are 273 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:08.079 demeanor, our tone, those are all so critical in building trust. If 274 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:15.309 we look trustworthy, we speak respectfully, gently, kindly, we convey that 275 00:19:15.470 --> 00:19:19.549 we are someone who can be trusted. So it before we ever open our 276 00:19:19.630 --> 00:19:23.190 mouth to speak, which I believe very strongly we must do. Yeah, 277 00:19:23.579 --> 00:19:27.740 but just are very fact that we're waving and smiling as they come in and 278 00:19:27.859 --> 00:19:32.460 looking approachable is kind of, I think, the first step. Yeah, 279 00:19:32.500 --> 00:19:37.259 and what that does is it chips away at what the abortion clinic is right, 280 00:19:37.380 --> 00:19:40.049 because the abortion clinic is told them there's going to be a bunch of 281 00:19:40.089 --> 00:19:41.690 angry people out there yelling at you and calling you a murderer. Yeah, 282 00:19:41.730 --> 00:19:45.650 and when what they encounter is something very different. Yeah, then they begin. 283 00:19:45.809 --> 00:19:49.130 And we've had women like you just shared who've told us. Well, 284 00:19:49.289 --> 00:19:52.720 they said you're like this, but you're not, and so I'm glad I 285 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:56.400 came over and talk to you. Yeah, so you're always surprised. Right. 286 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:00.599 So we want to you know again, we're not crafting what we say 287 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.240 and thinking about what we say and what we do based on what the abortion 288 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:04.960 industry styes, we're doing it out of our love for God, our love 289 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:07.470 for people. What we see in the scripture. Right, right, right. 290 00:20:07.789 --> 00:20:12.390 But if what we done, what we do, really shows that what 291 00:20:12.470 --> 00:20:15.390 the abortion industry, what the abortion clinic is told them is untrue, it 292 00:20:15.630 --> 00:20:18.710 helps, it helps to take some of the trust, yeah, that they 293 00:20:18.829 --> 00:20:23.700 put in the abortion clinic and to invest that trust in at least hearing what 294 00:20:23.819 --> 00:20:26.579 we have to say. Right, so great. So our information needs to 295 00:20:26.619 --> 00:20:30.619 be truthful. Yes, it does. That's very important, and it needs 296 00:20:30.660 --> 00:20:34.660 to be spiritually accurate as well. It needs to quote the Bible. Yeah, 297 00:20:34.730 --> 00:20:38.490 curately is yeah, anyboy in scripture and use and to use the words, 298 00:20:38.529 --> 00:20:42.329 and I've got a whole slew, yeah, of verses that are about 299 00:20:42.769 --> 00:20:48.529 trust, that that the the Bible has to say, that God has to 300 00:20:48.609 --> 00:20:52.680 say about trust. With this be good time for you to mention some of 301 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:55.839 us. So I won't go through all of them, because we will. 302 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:03.480 Let me combat something. Or here's another level of of issues that we have 303 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:06.670 to deal with. Okay. Something we're up against is that you have the 304 00:21:06.750 --> 00:21:08.069 world's way. You know, the Bible says there is a way that seems 305 00:21:08.109 --> 00:21:11.349 right to man, kind of that way of death. So you have the 306 00:21:11.390 --> 00:21:14.230 world's way, its system, its system of thinking. Yes, what does 307 00:21:14.309 --> 00:21:17.549 the world say about trust. Think about it. Think. What is the 308 00:21:17.630 --> 00:21:22.019 Hollywood mantra? Trust your heart, you trust your heart. Trust your heart. 309 00:21:22.059 --> 00:21:26.660 Yeah, follow your feeling, not bit. Yeah, cool, trust 310 00:21:26.700 --> 00:21:30.259 your heart because your heart will lead you. That's a that. Listen, 311 00:21:30.339 --> 00:21:33.890 the Bible says directly the opposite of that. Does says, if you trust 312 00:21:33.930 --> 00:21:36.450 your heart, guess where you end up? In places of death. Yeah, 313 00:21:36.529 --> 00:21:38.490 follow your heart and you'll follow it right to an abortion. Yeah, 314 00:21:38.650 --> 00:21:41.650 people come to abortion clinics because they follow their heart. That's right. The 315 00:21:41.769 --> 00:21:45.730 heart is deceptive above all else, the Bible says. Who can know it? 316 00:21:45.930 --> 00:21:51.519 So if the heart is deceptive above all else, well then don't trust 317 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:53.240 your heart. But what, what do you trust? You're falling heart and 318 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:56.720 it's going to lead you to an abortion clinics. Anyway. I say that 319 00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:00.200 to say that we're up against that. We're up against people that are following 320 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.109 their heart. We're up against society that says follow your heart. Yeah, 321 00:22:03.190 --> 00:22:07.910 that's another level of like complications and issues that we have to come up against. 322 00:22:08.309 --> 00:22:11.470 And so that's what again, selfishness, yeah, which is Putt of 323 00:22:11.509 --> 00:22:15.269 men. That whole plays on the whole idea. Follow your heart. Why? 324 00:22:15.349 --> 00:22:18.099 Because you're the most important thing. Yeah, this is what for number 325 00:22:18.140 --> 00:22:19.579 one, this is what I hear that out of time. This is what's 326 00:22:19.619 --> 00:22:22.539 best for me, not the thought about what might be best for they. 327 00:22:22.660 --> 00:22:27.220 And if you know you have that sort of mindset and if you've your mindset 328 00:22:27.259 --> 00:22:32.170 and your life has been crafted by the ideas of the world and follow your 329 00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:36.410 heart just seems natural. So we're up against human nature, which is has 330 00:22:36.450 --> 00:22:38.890 that propensity towards send and selfishness. Right, so we're up against that as 331 00:22:38.930 --> 00:22:44.289 well. Yeah, and I think again people need to understand what we're up 332 00:22:44.289 --> 00:22:48.799 against, not to discourage us, but to encourage us, that we have 333 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:53.920 tools in God's word that we can use, because God's word, the Bible 334 00:22:55.000 --> 00:23:00.069 says of itself, God's word, is alive, active and sharper than need 335 00:23:00.109 --> 00:23:03.750 two edged sword, he brews and twelve, alive, active and sharper than 336 00:23:03.789 --> 00:23:08.630 any two edged sword. It says it's able to pierce the divide even between 337 00:23:08.829 --> 00:23:12.660 soul and spirit, joint and marry. So what it's talking about is God's 338 00:23:12.700 --> 00:23:18.339 words ability to get in and to do a surgeon's job. God's word will 339 00:23:18.380 --> 00:23:22.740 cut through the mass, it will cut through the lies, it'll cut through 340 00:23:22.980 --> 00:23:26.259 the bull crap, yeah, full crap and get right to it. And 341 00:23:26.339 --> 00:23:32.490 that's why we cannot, as sidewall counselors, as pregnancy center counselors, neglect 342 00:23:32.490 --> 00:23:34.130 the word of God. We cannot neglect the word of God. Now, 343 00:23:34.329 --> 00:23:37.730 that doesn't mean that we need to be constantly throwing Bible verses at people. 344 00:23:37.849 --> 00:23:41.480 Understand you know, there's we don't want to do that, Shoven the Gospel 345 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:47.200 downs people's throat through whatever. But everything that we say needs to be informed 346 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:51.640 by and seasoned with the word of God and we ought to be quote in 347 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:53.720 scripture. We ought to be saying, well, understand, your situation is 348 00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:56.430 such, but you know, the Bible says this. Right, he called 349 00:23:56.670 --> 00:24:00.589 word tells us. I know your situation is difficult, but Psalm Forty six 350 00:24:00.710 --> 00:24:04.950 one tells us God is a refuge in strength, a very present help in 351 00:24:06.190 --> 00:24:10.980 trouble. Right, and what you said undergirding everything that we do and say. 352 00:24:11.220 --> 00:24:14.779 So we may not even be quoting all these scriptures about trust. I 353 00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:18.579 don't know that I quote them very often about trust itself, but when I 354 00:24:18.700 --> 00:24:21.980 have that scripture in my heart and I'm familiar with it and I know what 355 00:24:22.059 --> 00:24:26.690 the Bible says about trust, I am more able to then go forth and 356 00:24:26.170 --> 00:24:30.289 know how to help them to trust in God. Yeah, altimate. Yeah, 357 00:24:30.289 --> 00:24:33.970 because you know, it's believers. We need to have assurance in the 358 00:24:33.170 --> 00:24:36.809 Lord that we can. You know, you can't give what you don't have 359 00:24:37.170 --> 00:24:40.559 exactly. And so if you're trying to convey to an abortion amounted woman, 360 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.240 a woman at an abortion clinic, that she needs to trust God, if 361 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.319 you don't have trust in him right yourself right, you can have a hard 362 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.119 time convinced her to trust the Lord. So you should be sure of God's 363 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:52.710 word yourself and of course, if you're a believer, you are in God's 364 00:24:52.750 --> 00:24:56.349 helping you more and more to trust him. Yeah, but we need to 365 00:24:56.430 --> 00:24:59.910 be in God's Word on regular basis, and I want to encourage people with 366 00:25:00.109 --> 00:25:03.710 too, and this is what we encourage our sidewalk counselors here with. You 367 00:25:03.869 --> 00:25:07.069 got to be in constant fellowship with the Lord, because this Ministry is not 368 00:25:07.109 --> 00:25:08.779 a ministry you're going to be able to do out of your own strength. 369 00:25:10.180 --> 00:25:11.420 You're not going to be able to do it out of your own wisdom and 370 00:25:11.579 --> 00:25:15.339 the world's wisdom. As much as medical science might be on our on our 371 00:25:15.420 --> 00:25:19.140 side, and it is Yep, medical science is not going to change a 372 00:25:19.180 --> 00:25:23.009 human heart that's bent on doing something very selfish. It never says in the 373 00:25:23.049 --> 00:25:27.170 Bible that I could find trust in medical science. Never. No, I'm 374 00:25:27.250 --> 00:25:30.289 not saying that medical science, again, is not on our side. It 375 00:25:30.369 --> 00:25:33.410 is. It is, and I'm not saying that it's not a tool that 376 00:25:33.490 --> 00:25:37.799 we can use. We certainly can. That's one of our what we call 377 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.839 our three talking points when we're taught, when we're teaching side what counsels is 378 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.039 fetal development. We get that from medical science, right, right. The 379 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.000 humanity of the baby can be proven scientifically. Exactly. Yeah, but what 380 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:51.670 does that even matter? If you think about it, what does the humanity 381 00:25:51.750 --> 00:25:55.829 of the baby even matter if God's not brought into the equation? You're just 382 00:25:55.990 --> 00:26:00.309 talking about killing another animal anyway. Yeah, so God has to be brought 383 00:26:00.309 --> 00:26:03.390 into the equation. God's word doesn't mean, again, that we can't use 384 00:26:03.470 --> 00:26:07.339 some of these things to our advantage. We can and we should. But 385 00:26:07.420 --> 00:26:11.259 if God's words not brought into the equation, then nothing else has the ability 386 00:26:11.299 --> 00:26:15.940 as God's word does, to change the human heart. These women have to 387 00:26:17.019 --> 00:26:22.410 see from yeah, I think the Holy Spirit shows it to him that they 388 00:26:22.490 --> 00:26:25.890 can't trust the abortion industry, they can't trust, ultimately, the devil. 389 00:26:26.569 --> 00:26:30.849 They need to trust the Lord. They need to trust what God says about 390 00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:33.759 them, about their baby, about their situation, rather than the abortion industry. 391 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.319 Yeah, and the people that God has sent. They need to they 392 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.599 need to listen to I had a woman a couple of days ago who, 393 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:45.759 when I asked her about what brought her here and what her obstacles were, 394 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:52.150 she said basically that it was all about her. Yeah, but then she 395 00:26:52.549 --> 00:26:56.109 said that she knew in her heart that this was the right thing to do 396 00:26:56.910 --> 00:27:03.380 and and that before God her heart, he knew her heart. That's what 397 00:27:03.500 --> 00:27:07.500 she said. He knows my heart. I said, well, do you 398 00:27:07.579 --> 00:27:10.660 know what the Bible says? He says about your heart. Yeah, and 399 00:27:11.220 --> 00:27:14.660 and I started quoting about the hardest deceitful above all else. And and I 400 00:27:14.819 --> 00:27:18.329 I asked her the series of questions. Have you ever lied, stolen lust 401 00:27:18.369 --> 00:27:23.769 it after someone spoken ill of someone, and and and she said that she 402 00:27:23.890 --> 00:27:26.049 had to all of those. And I said, what do you think your 403 00:27:26.089 --> 00:27:32.680 heart looks like in reality then, and and she agreed that maybe her heart 404 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:36.200 didn't look as good as as she thought, that it did. So that's 405 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:40.440 kind of an example of using scripture to kind of bring someone to the conclusion 406 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.119 that their belief was wrong, where they were trusting in their heart was just 407 00:27:44.910 --> 00:27:48.789 wrong. Yeah, and what don't want you guys that are listening to understand, 408 00:27:48.950 --> 00:27:52.230 because we're talking, you know, heavy about using the word of God, 409 00:27:52.309 --> 00:27:55.269 we're talking about how the word of God comes against lies and we're talking 410 00:27:55.269 --> 00:28:00.500 about wielding the sword of the spirit. But again, we're up against a 411 00:28:00.859 --> 00:28:07.700 lot and they've been told we're a bunch of angry protesters whatever. So that's 412 00:28:07.740 --> 00:28:10.019 why we need to be careful in the way that we like you, can 413 00:28:10.140 --> 00:28:12.849 convey certain truths, like what you're talking about, showing someone that their heart 414 00:28:14.250 --> 00:28:18.490 is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Yeah, and you can do 415 00:28:18.609 --> 00:28:22.369 it very graciously, you can do it in a way where you're not just 416 00:28:22.569 --> 00:28:26.450 accusing and pointing the finger. See, biblically, we have to come from 417 00:28:26.450 --> 00:28:30.519 a position of we've sinned and fallen short of the glory of God as well, 418 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.839 we've failed the Lord as well and we need a savior as well. 419 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:41.119 Right, and even though we're not living in sin, we came from a 420 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:44.829 lifestyle of sin. We need to come from a perspective of we're no better 421 00:28:44.869 --> 00:28:51.190 apart from Christ, then they are right and we can speak graciously into situations 422 00:28:51.509 --> 00:28:55.509 like that because we see hey set for the grace of God, I'd be 423 00:28:55.589 --> 00:28:57.180 right where you are exactly, you know. So when we're speaking from that 424 00:28:57.299 --> 00:29:03.420 perspective we're speaking graciously and I think it is as much as people might minimize 425 00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:07.099 that. I think tone does matter, the tone of voice that we use. 426 00:29:07.819 --> 00:29:11.329 It goes a long way and I think there's there's a proverb that speaks 427 00:29:11.369 --> 00:29:14.130 to that. I quit this proverb a lot to our side Walt counselors and 428 00:29:14.210 --> 00:29:17.369 other people who are not our sidebalt counselors who would I would like for them 429 00:29:17.450 --> 00:29:19.410 not to be so so loud and obnoxious in the way that they talk. 430 00:29:19.809 --> 00:29:23.920 Yes, is the proverb that says if you bless your brother early in the 431 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.200 morning loudly, it will be perceived as a curse. Basically, what it's 432 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.160 saying is you can say as nice as stuff as you want, if you 433 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.279 say that the wrong time and in the wrong volume, it's not going to 434 00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:37.160 be received as a blessing, it's going to be received as a curse. 435 00:29:37.750 --> 00:29:41.589 So our tone does matter. Yeah, our tone, accept the tone. 436 00:29:41.789 --> 00:29:45.990 That's what we say. Your tone sets the tone in your time and can 437 00:29:45.069 --> 00:29:48.509 matter. You know, you look and you pray for those opportune times in 438 00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:52.339 a conversation with a mom who's come over and talk to you or with the 439 00:29:52.420 --> 00:29:56.619 mom who's stopped her vehicle and pulled over to talk to you on the side 440 00:29:56.619 --> 00:30:00.059 of the road. You look for those opportune times to introduce the conviction of 441 00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:04.259 sin, the reality. You know, I've spoken, I mean very forthrightly, 442 00:30:04.339 --> 00:30:07.250 with men in front of the abortion clinic about their sexual sin. Yeah, 443 00:30:07.250 --> 00:30:11.930 about their guilt before God and their manipulation of women. I mean I've 444 00:30:11.970 --> 00:30:15.890 encountered men that have taken three and four women to the abortion clinic because they 445 00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:18.849 got them pregnant, having second south out of her. But I'll wait for 446 00:30:18.930 --> 00:30:22.000 the opportune time not to tell them that they're a filthy, wretched center, 447 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.839 but to let them tell themselves. That's what I like so much as effective 448 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.720 thing, to really ask questions and let them draw their own conclusion. Yeah, 449 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.440 listening to watching Rad Comfort Videos, U see, that's exactly what he 450 00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.869 does. He's taking them through the law and he says, have you ever 451 00:30:38.029 --> 00:30:41.549 lied? Yeah, well, what does that make you? And that's a 452 00:30:41.670 --> 00:30:44.869 really good method. You're asking questions, you're drawing it out of them. 453 00:30:44.950 --> 00:30:51.420 They're seeing and in hearing from their own mouth their guilt before God for their 454 00:30:51.539 --> 00:30:53.220 sin. Right, yeah, and it that's a that's a helpful way, 455 00:30:53.259 --> 00:30:57.779 in a very gracious but fourth right way to address these issues. Yeah, 456 00:30:57.819 --> 00:31:03.259 yeah, well, so let's look at some of these becauses now. The 457 00:31:03.380 --> 00:31:06.809 first one is from proverbs. Proverbs, it's so good. Yeah, proverbs 458 00:31:06.890 --> 00:31:11.769 three, five, trust in the Lord with all your heart and do not 459 00:31:11.930 --> 00:31:15.569 lean on your own understanding. Yeah, so that's they're leaning on their own 460 00:31:15.569 --> 00:31:18.519 understanding, right. Or Yeah, trust in the Lord with all of your 461 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.359 heart and I lean on your own understanding and all of your ways. Acknowledge 462 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.079 Him and he would direct your right. Yeah, passed. So that's a 463 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.039 scripture. Erect it. Yeah, right, you direct your path, you 464 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.470 follow your heart, you follow your ways, you end up in an abortion 465 00:31:33.509 --> 00:31:37.190 clinic, you follow the Lord and he'll direct your path. He'll direct your 466 00:31:37.230 --> 00:31:40.549 path out of the abortion clinic. And so this is a scripture that talks 467 00:31:40.589 --> 00:31:45.029 about trust and it really contrasts with the trust that a woman has an abortion 468 00:31:45.349 --> 00:31:49.099 and the abortion industry with the trust that she should have in the Lord. 469 00:31:49.099 --> 00:31:53.339 And I think this is an important scripture to remind these mothers about that God 470 00:31:53.420 --> 00:31:56.980 can be trusted and you ought to trust it. Yeah, and this one 471 00:31:56.220 --> 00:32:00.740 is one that I actually will say to the women quite often. For one, 472 00:32:00.779 --> 00:32:02.849 it's one of the few I remember. I'm not very good memorization, 473 00:32:02.930 --> 00:32:07.970 but it's such a good one, it's so appropriate. So the next one. 474 00:32:07.329 --> 00:32:13.170 Blessed is the man who trust in the Lord. Whose Trust is the 475 00:32:13.329 --> 00:32:17.599 Lord Jeremiah, seventeen seven. Yeah, and you know what we're talking about 476 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.160 when we're talking about trusted in the Lords? We're talking about the character of 477 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.799 God. Really, you know, if you think about trust, what is 478 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:30.869 it? It's really a faith in the character of that entity or that person 479 00:32:31.750 --> 00:32:37.309 that you're trusting. Right. Yeah, and I think as sidewalk counselors, 480 00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:39.710 one of the things that we can do to help women to see that they 481 00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:43.869 can trust the Lord, and I think, I know this is very biblical, 482 00:32:44.339 --> 00:32:49.220 is to share testimonies, to share stories about what God has done in 483 00:32:49.299 --> 00:32:52.339 certain situations. I mean, one of the ways that I will try to 484 00:32:52.420 --> 00:32:55.579 gain trust from people as I'm talking to him or even as I'm talking on 485 00:32:55.619 --> 00:32:59.730 the microphone, is sharing with them. Listen, I've seen women in your 486 00:32:59.809 --> 00:33:04.529 situation and I've seen God do amazing things. Would you come over and just 487 00:33:04.730 --> 00:33:07.849 let me show you some of the help that God has available for I am 488 00:33:07.890 --> 00:33:10.849 a woman who was in your situation and I did what you did and I 489 00:33:12.009 --> 00:33:15.680 know the pain and sorrow. But let me tell you about how God changed 490 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:21.079 my life and changed me and brought set me on a solid path. Yeah, 491 00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:23.519 I might and right. And so you're sick. You're sharing these stories 492 00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:28.990 and you're sharing these testimonies because you're establishing, helping, establishing their mind the 493 00:33:29.069 --> 00:33:30.910 character of this God that you're talking about, that he is good, that 494 00:33:31.029 --> 00:33:37.390 he does care, that he is able to cause dramatic, radical change in 495 00:33:37.549 --> 00:33:40.539 your life that you maybe have never felt her seen before. And if you 496 00:33:40.819 --> 00:33:45.619 have experienced that, we all know that every true believer who speaks of that 497 00:33:45.779 --> 00:33:51.779 transformative power of Christ in their own life is compelling. People want that, 498 00:33:52.099 --> 00:33:55.089 people are on to that. Yeah, and if you look in the Old 499 00:33:55.170 --> 00:34:00.049 Testament, you look at some of the psalms and you look at how the 500 00:34:00.130 --> 00:34:06.410 Psalmist recounts the faithfulness of God and even recounting the exodus from Egypt and how 501 00:34:06.490 --> 00:34:09.440 God had been faithful to bring his people into the promised land. What is 502 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:15.119 he doing? What's The psalmist doing there? He's conveying the faithfulness of God 503 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.840 to the people that are reading and singing this psalm and they're singing about the 504 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.400 faithfulness of God. If you think about a lot of our songs in Church, 505 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:25.429 they surround the faithfulness in the goodness of God and what God has brought 506 00:34:25.469 --> 00:34:29.789 us from, what God has done in our lives. Yeah, and all 507 00:34:29.869 --> 00:34:31.789 through the scripture we see this common thread of what God has done. Look 508 00:34:31.789 --> 00:34:35.909 what the Lord has done, look at the faithfulness of God, and that's 509 00:34:35.949 --> 00:34:40.019 all there to help us and remind us that this God that we're talking about, 510 00:34:40.059 --> 00:34:44.659 we're trying to encourage people to trust in, is good, he's faithful, 511 00:34:44.659 --> 00:34:46.619 that he comes through, that he can be trusted, so trust him, 512 00:34:46.619 --> 00:34:50.739 you know. Yeah, and it's a theme in Scriptures, a very 513 00:34:50.780 --> 00:34:53.250 common thing. It is in a counterpoint to that which I do sometimes tell 514 00:34:53.289 --> 00:34:58.570 the women is now contrast that that picture of God that has just been painted 515 00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:01.409 with. When you trusted in yourself, when you trust it in your own 516 00:35:01.449 --> 00:35:07.480 choices, when you trusted in your own solutions. Where have they brought you? 517 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.760 Yeah, and they brought them to a place of death and destruction, 518 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:15.480 and they all know that. That's undeniable and most of them don't want to 519 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.039 be there. Right. I would say none of them truly want to be 520 00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:23.429 there. So anyway. So the next one and Psalm fifty six, three 521 00:35:23.590 --> 00:35:28.030 to four, and then verse thirteen in that Psalm. Some fifty six. 522 00:35:28.309 --> 00:35:31.190 Okay, when I am afraid, I put my trust in you, in 523 00:35:31.429 --> 00:35:36.179 God, who's where I praise. In God, I trust. I shall 524 00:35:36.260 --> 00:35:40.739 not be afraid. What can flesh do to me, for you have delivered 525 00:35:40.940 --> 00:35:45.539 my soul from death, yes, my feet from falling, that I may 526 00:35:45.659 --> 00:35:49.619 walk before God in the light of life. So there's a there's a psalm, 527 00:35:49.980 --> 00:35:53.369 just like something about David recounting the faithfulness of God. You have done 528 00:35:53.489 --> 00:35:57.690 this, therefore, I know I can trust you've been faith in the past. 529 00:35:57.769 --> 00:36:00.730 Therefore I can trust you in the future. And when I'm afraid, 530 00:36:00.929 --> 00:36:04.090 to which these women, I think, relate to that, I mean they 531 00:36:04.130 --> 00:36:07.320 are, they are giving into fear nine times out of town. Oh, 532 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.199 absolutely. So we can remind them of the faithfulness of God. Yeah, 533 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.159 we can remind them of the faithfulness of God in the Scriptures. We conminded 534 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.750 them of certain scriptures where God came through in the Scriptures. Also the faithfulness 535 00:36:19.750 --> 00:36:22.230 of God in our own lives, the faithfulness of God. I remember I 536 00:36:22.469 --> 00:36:27.550 shared a couple of podcasts go about the young lady who, by God's grace, 537 00:36:27.590 --> 00:36:30.469 and we talked about man and can man be effective administer and how God's 538 00:36:30.510 --> 00:36:32.820 Great. By God's grace, she chose life and one of the things that 539 00:36:32.980 --> 00:36:37.579 God used is meet reminding her about the faithfulness of God in her life and 540 00:36:37.619 --> 00:36:40.780 how God has been faithful in the past and how God had lined things up 541 00:36:40.860 --> 00:36:44.460 in her life in such a way where she could actually have this baby and 542 00:36:44.539 --> 00:36:46.170 have her needs met, and all of this because she had given you enough 543 00:36:46.210 --> 00:36:51.570 information that you were able to to zone in on. Yeah, Hey, 544 00:36:51.650 --> 00:36:54.130 there's an example of God's faithfulness in this student's life and you're probably storing that 545 00:36:54.210 --> 00:36:58.329 in your head, thinking I need to speak to her. Yeah, absolutely, 546 00:36:59.050 --> 00:37:01.760 and it's important to remind people of the faithfulness of God. Hey, 547 00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:07.400 as believers, it's important for us to remind each other of the faithfulness of 548 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.079 God. Sometimes I need to be reminded when I'm down, when I'm in 549 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:15.630 a difficult situation, when I'm dealing with just the anxiety of whatever stress going 550 00:37:15.670 --> 00:37:20.269 on, I need to be reminded of the faithfulness of God. That's why 551 00:37:20.309 --> 00:37:22.869 it's important for us to be in church and hear the word of God's why 552 00:37:22.949 --> 00:37:25.469 is important for us to encourage one another daily, as long as it's called 553 00:37:25.510 --> 00:37:29.230 today, as the Bible says, because we, even his believers, need 554 00:37:29.269 --> 00:37:35.019 to be reminded. Listen, your future is unsure, unclear, like everybody's 555 00:37:35.019 --> 00:37:37.619 future is. No one knows the future, but God does, and God, 556 00:37:37.739 --> 00:37:40.780 who has been faithful in the past, will be faithful in the future, 557 00:37:42.019 --> 00:37:45.449 and that is an important truth for us to convey to an abortion minded 558 00:37:45.530 --> 00:37:47.730 mom. Again, we're dealing with majority, at least here in the south. 559 00:37:47.969 --> 00:37:52.050 The majority of these women have been in church. Majority of these women 560 00:37:52.650 --> 00:37:55.769 know things about the Lord, right, and so we're reminding them of things 561 00:37:55.849 --> 00:38:00.119 that they'd already known. Yeah, so that ultimately, again, they take 562 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:05.159 the trust that they've put into the abortion clinic and abortion and invest that trust 563 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.519 actually in the Lord. Yeah, and one of the things that they're losing 564 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:13.550 side, if I do think is is eternity and what's happening to their soul 565 00:38:13.869 --> 00:38:16.230 as they're making choices to rebel against God. They know it's a choice to 566 00:38:16.309 --> 00:38:21.030 rebel against God almost overwhelmingly, and I love in in this palm where it 567 00:38:21.110 --> 00:38:25.590 says for you have delivered my soul from death. So reminding them again who 568 00:38:27.110 --> 00:38:31.860 really holds eternity, your eternity in his hand. It's not the abortionist. 569 00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:36.579 Yeah, it's God. And do you really want to make a choice that 570 00:38:36.820 --> 00:38:40.849 is going to draw you further from God or closer to God? Well, 571 00:38:40.889 --> 00:38:44.250 you know, I think with this, I mean we've gone through a lot 572 00:38:44.329 --> 00:38:47.210 of scripture. I think we've laid out a good spiritual case about how we 573 00:38:47.409 --> 00:38:52.889 asside counsel as we as ministers in and pro life, in a pro life 574 00:38:52.929 --> 00:38:57.199 capacity, can help an abortion minded mom to take the trust that she's put 575 00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.679 in the abortion clinic and put that trust in the Lord. I hope we've 576 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.119 given you guys some principles, at least from our experience, and I think 577 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.199 we've got more to share on this topic. Yeah, so we'll do a 578 00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.190 part two to this because we can't go much longer, right, but we'll 579 00:39:09.230 --> 00:39:14.230 do a part two and hopefully this was a blessing you guys, and we 580 00:39:14.309 --> 00:39:17.949 appreciate you listening appreciate you guys that share this podcast. Please continue to share 581 00:39:17.989 --> 00:39:22.030 this podcast send us ideas about future podcasts. 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