Helping Abortion-minded Women Trust the Lord - Part 1

WEBVTT100:00:00.600 --> 00:00:05.160I am yours. I am yours. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life200:00:05.200 --> 00:00:08.789podcast and this episode we're going totalk about trust. When we encounter an300:00:08.789 --> 00:00:12.990abortion minded woman, she has puther trust in abortion. It's our job400:00:13.070 --> 00:00:16.109to help her take that trust outof abortion and put it in the Lord.500:00:16.469 --> 00:00:18.670But how do we, as prolife ministers, do that? We600:00:18.789 --> 00:00:21.460believe the scripture has a lot tosay about this, so stick with us.700:00:23.660 --> 00:00:37.210I felt show passis touch your welcometo the Gospel Center pro life podcast.800:00:37.369 --> 00:00:40.329WHO This podcast is a blessing toyou. We're going to talk about900:00:40.329 --> 00:00:45.929trust today. It's an important issueand of course we're going to talk about1000:00:45.929 --> 00:00:48.729it and lie of the ministry thatwe're involved in on a regular basis,1100:00:48.770 --> 00:00:53.039which is sidewall counseling. But Ithink this, this rings true and the1200:00:53.119 --> 00:00:57.240things we're going to talk about ringtrue. And really, any ministry be1300:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.000involved in, when you're dealing withabortion minded women and people just in difficult1400:01:00.039 --> 00:01:06.469situations, trust is always an issue, right. I mean whether you're talking1500:01:06.510 --> 00:01:11.989about again abortion, mind of womenor even just marital issues and mom and1600:01:11.109 --> 00:01:15.510dad to their kids, kind ofissues, any issue, trust is a1700:01:15.590 --> 00:01:21.099big deal and in the scripture it'salso an important deal. Right, there's1800:01:21.219 --> 00:01:23.219all kinds of scripture. We're goingto get into some of those that talk1900:01:23.299 --> 00:01:27.459about trust, but let me kindof set the stage where what we're talking2000:01:27.540 --> 00:01:33.609about, because again we're primarily talkingabout in a sidewalk counseling realm or maybe2100:01:33.689 --> 00:01:38.609even in a pregnancy center or someother kind of prolife ministry, is we're2200:01:38.650 --> 00:01:42.489talking about the trust, and thisis kind of what we come up against,2300:01:42.609 --> 00:01:48.719that a woman has in abortion,in the abortion industry, and what2400:01:48.799 --> 00:01:53.079I mean by that is that she'sput a certain level of trust in abortion2500:01:53.200 --> 00:02:00.159to fix her situation right, andshe's trusting abortion to make the relationship with2600:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.989her boyfriend better or husband better,to calm the storm that's going on in2700:02:05.109 --> 00:02:09.469her life. She's put her trustin abortion and thereby put her trust in2800:02:09.469 --> 00:02:13.710the abortion industry. Right. Thatseems to be that's what's going to change2900:02:13.710 --> 00:02:16.659her life and make it all rightagain. Yeah, it's what we've got3000:02:16.780 --> 00:02:20.419to do, and this is adynamic that I thought would be a blessing3100:02:20.460 --> 00:02:24.060to you guys to understand, iswe've got to try, as sidewalk counselors,3200:02:24.219 --> 00:02:30.009as prolife pregnancy center counselors. We'vegot to try to counsel these women3300:02:30.050 --> 00:02:35.729and to take in that investment,if you will, of trust out of3400:02:36.050 --> 00:02:39.090the abortion clinic, out of theabortion industry, out of abortion, and3500:02:39.330 --> 00:02:43.849put that trust in, you know, in us, but really in the3600:02:44.009 --> 00:02:47.039Lord. Right. Basically we're tryingto gain their trust. Right, if3700:02:47.080 --> 00:02:52.319they did it, because if theydon't put their trust initially in us over3800:02:52.400 --> 00:02:55.039the abortion center, there's no reasonto listen to us. No one listens3900:02:55.080 --> 00:02:59.909to someone they don't trust. Yeah, so our goal is, of course,4000:03:00.030 --> 00:03:04.389to transfer that trust ultimately to God, but first of all they they4100:03:04.509 --> 00:03:07.389have to feel they will trust usenough to hear what we have to say.4200:03:07.430 --> 00:03:13.819Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Sowhat are some of the challenges than4300:03:13.900 --> 00:03:17.539that we're dealing with? We're comingup against some challenges and we're at a4400:03:19.580 --> 00:03:23.219pretty grave disadvantage, especially standing infront of an abortion clinic. Yeah,4500:03:23.219 --> 00:03:25.219we really are coming to the abortioncenter, right, right. What are4600:03:25.300 --> 00:03:29.969some of the challenge? Yeah,well, I looked on the website of4700:03:30.569 --> 00:03:35.370our local, very busy abortion centerand here is the first big challenge.4800:03:35.490 --> 00:03:39.050So these women don't go looking forsidewalk counselors that can write, that can4900:03:39.129 --> 00:03:44.240give them an another, you know, different option other than we're not coming5000:03:44.280 --> 00:03:47.039to the abortion clinic because they're hopingto sidewall counselor will be there right right.5100:03:47.120 --> 00:03:51.599Have had people come because they knewthey knew that the mobile unit would5200:03:51.599 --> 00:03:53.680be there. They knew it wouldbe would be out there right right.5300:03:53.840 --> 00:03:57.830We praise God for that. Butprimarily they're not coming to the abortion clinic5400:03:58.310 --> 00:04:00.870because they want to encounter us right, coming for abortion, right exactly.5500:04:00.909 --> 00:04:06.469And and so so let's look athow the abortion center first of all presents5600:04:06.509 --> 00:04:10.819themselves. Ye, to because inorder to gain gain their trusts. This5700:04:11.139 --> 00:04:15.259this is a quote from the websiteof the abortion center. Our physicians are5800:04:15.379 --> 00:04:21.339some of the most experienced abortion providersin the southeast. Our staff has provided5900:04:21.339 --> 00:04:27.449abortion care to over a hundred thousandpatients during the past twenty years. Yeah,6000:04:27.810 --> 00:04:30.610as though that something to brag about. Right. Honestly, it is.6100:04:30.689 --> 00:04:36.970Okay. Registered nurses and medical assistantswith years of abortion experience compliment and6200:04:38.089 --> 00:04:45.199assist are very experienced medical staff.Many of our counselors have backgrounds in psychology,6300:04:45.439 --> 00:04:49.360social work and medical office environments.All of our councilors are sincere,6400:04:49.879 --> 00:04:57.230caring women who are committed to helpingeach individual patient complete their treatment with the6500:04:57.310 --> 00:05:02.550best possible emotional, spiritual and physicalspiritual alms. Yeah, you know,6600:05:02.870 --> 00:05:06.420a word comes to mind as youread all of that. Yeah, and6700:05:06.420 --> 00:05:12.060I hope I don't have to beatthis out. BULLCRAT. That's bullcrap.6800:05:13.300 --> 00:05:16.939We who know what really happens.But just look at let's just examine.6900:05:17.139 --> 00:05:21.089Yeah, their language in good luck, this is some excellent language. They7000:05:21.209 --> 00:05:29.730know what they're doing where. Wedon't want to underestimate the the craftiness of7100:05:29.850 --> 00:05:32.329the abortion center. They are verygood, of course, at at drawing7200:05:32.970 --> 00:05:38.279people in and into trusting them.Yeah, so, well, this is7300:05:38.319 --> 00:05:42.319what we have to understand to isthat we're dealing with again, a a7400:05:42.519 --> 00:05:46.560for profit company. Right, well, plant parent, who it's not?7500:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.269They say they're not for profit,but they make make off of killing children.7600:05:49.430 --> 00:05:53.149GO MONEY ON UM number. Weknow that. So we're dealing with7700:05:53.230 --> 00:05:57.189that. And so I say thatso that people understand. These are salesmen7800:05:57.350 --> 00:06:00.870and these are sale is tactics,and and a sales tactic is to gain7900:06:00.990 --> 00:06:05.540people's trust. Yeah, boy,Hey, we have this amount of experience.8000:06:05.699 --> 00:06:09.540Yeah, yeah, and and somethingthat a lot of people don't know.8100:06:09.620 --> 00:06:14.220I certainly didn't know this until someof the abortion workers who left confided8200:06:14.300 --> 00:06:16.899in me and talked with me andtold me that they have quotas at the8300:06:17.019 --> 00:06:23.449call center, quotas for how manyabortions they have to book or they're retaught.8400:06:23.850 --> 00:06:29.449Okay, they're re edguy condition andthen ultimately fired if they don't meet8500:06:29.449 --> 00:06:31.449their quota of abortions. I mean, how sick is that? Yeah,8600:06:31.529 --> 00:06:34.120well, sounds like it's broads.Yeah, because again, you're talking about8700:06:34.120 --> 00:06:38.240a business that makes a lot ofmoney off would right, right. So8800:06:38.480 --> 00:06:43.120notice how their building trust in theirprospective clients. They paint this rosy picture8900:06:43.240 --> 00:06:48.509of time tested success. Yeah,twenty years, why you have killing hundred9000:06:48.750 --> 00:06:53.470thousand babies. Yeah, and thisis a glowing recommendation, because they know9100:06:53.550 --> 00:06:58.230what they're doing. Apparently. Inthis business, the doctors are described as9200:06:58.269 --> 00:07:04.379experienced, the staff are are describedas caring, sincere, committed to helping9300:07:04.579 --> 00:07:09.699and the best possible outcomes. Soall that language, not once does it9400:07:09.819 --> 00:07:13.540describe what happens in an abortion.Of course not. Nowhere on the website9500:07:13.579 --> 00:07:16.769can you find the abortionist name andlook up the record of the abortionists.9600:07:16.850 --> 00:07:20.290Right nowhere. Even if you callan ass they do mean in one sense,9700:07:20.329 --> 00:07:24.769they're talking about their providers, intheir you know, abortionists, in9800:07:24.810 --> 00:07:28.170their staff and all of that.You got to take our we're for it,9900:07:28.209 --> 00:07:30.920because they're not going to. Thisis what the abortion clinics convey and10000:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.439you got to take our word forit that these people are experienced, because10100:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.560we're not going to tell you whothey are. Right. So they are10200:07:35.560 --> 00:07:39.800actually come into the room, rightand any abortion and you get the idea10300:07:39.879 --> 00:07:44.199that maybe, maybe, you knowyou're getting this really wonderful, compassionate doctor.10400:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.230Yeah, but what do we learnfrom this, though, as we're10500:07:46.269 --> 00:07:51.870thinking about okay, we're dealing withwomen in crisis situation, right, yeah,10600:07:53.110 --> 00:07:58.470and anybody in a crisis situation you'relooking for something to grab hold of,10700:07:58.509 --> 00:08:01.220you're looking for some kind of hope, you're looking for some kind of10800:08:01.300 --> 00:08:05.300remedy, you're looking for some wereor somebody that you can go to to10900:08:05.379 --> 00:08:09.019help make the situation better. Sothat's really scared and you're scared and you11000:08:09.100 --> 00:08:13.209know it hurts because you've heard fromyour friends, so you know it hurts.11100:08:13.250 --> 00:08:16.329So so the picture of their paintingis one that is designed to damp11200:08:16.410 --> 00:08:20.209in their fears and paint a picturethat is not at all scary, not11300:08:20.370 --> 00:08:24.449at all paint well it least.You know, in one sense, the11400:08:24.490 --> 00:08:28.519abortion industry is playing on the fearof the future, the fear of having11500:08:28.519 --> 00:08:30.920a baby, the fear of allof this, and trying to say well,11600:08:31.560 --> 00:08:33.159after all, having an abortion.I mean that's the picture that the11700:08:33.200 --> 00:08:37.639abortion industry paints and some of them, I've heard pro choice people say this.11800:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.590It's less invasive to have an abortionprocedure than it is to have a11900:08:41.669 --> 00:08:45.230baby. So, you know,trust abortion, trust the abortion industry,12000:08:45.590 --> 00:08:50.350because all your fears will be takenaway, all the things and anxiety that12100:08:50.389 --> 00:08:54.230you have your fast Cera Lot comebest possible comes spiritually, yeah too.12200:08:54.779 --> 00:09:01.820So how can we take what theyhave put there, HMM, and use12300:09:01.179 --> 00:09:05.940that? Now, I'm not sayingthat we use the enemies tactics, but12400:09:05.139 --> 00:09:11.129I am saying is within this language, is sort of what we recognize as12500:09:11.450 --> 00:09:15.970how we, as human beings,would communicate to someone who's in a crisis12600:09:16.049 --> 00:09:20.490like we want to let them knowthat we have experience in dealing with their12700:09:20.570 --> 00:09:24.090issues. We want to let themknow that you, in one sense,12800:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.279okay, you've got chaos going onin your life and we got some solutions12900:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.720for you. Right. Yeah,and in one sense, you know,13000:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.879that's what a sidewalk counsel is,that's what a pregnancy center counselor is is.13100:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.149We're trying to counsel them through asituation. We're trying to show them13200:09:39.230 --> 00:09:43.909that there are solutions and that thereis ultimately, from our perspective, a13300:09:43.990 --> 00:09:48.269God that they can trust to carrythrough with this situation and bring about the13400:09:48.509 --> 00:09:52.500best possible outcome. Right. Andand so the abortion center, of course,13500:09:52.620 --> 00:09:56.700knows we have a solution that isnot abortion, and they they know13600:09:56.820 --> 00:10:01.019that we're effective at it. Sowe have another layer, though, that13700:10:01.179 --> 00:10:03.659we have to first overcome, notonly the language that they have read and13800:10:03.740 --> 00:10:07.769the counseling they've received from the abortioncenter, but they tell them there will13900:10:07.769 --> 00:10:15.090be protesters, called protesters. Theythey tell them just drive past, don't14000:10:15.129 --> 00:10:18.610talk to them, that they tellthem that we're mean. I had someone14100:10:18.730 --> 00:10:22.080come and say I was so surprisedyou, you're nice that they told me14200:10:22.120 --> 00:10:24.679you really mean and angry, andthat wasn't what she saw, which is,14300:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.440by the way, answers in partyour question. We have to counter14400:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.799that's another one of the her right. Right, we encounter that's another one14500:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.629of the things that we have toovercome. Yeah, know the fact that14600:10:37.909 --> 00:10:41.389the abortion industry has this language andhas encouraged now, hey, we have14700:10:41.509 --> 00:10:46.230these these wonderful providers. All that, the fact that the abortion industry is14800:10:46.269 --> 00:10:48.269told them the people on the sidewalkor just a bunch of angry, mean14900:10:48.389 --> 00:10:54.940protesters. That's that's something else thatwe've got right to counter. Right the15000:10:54.460 --> 00:10:58.500we've had some of the pro choicepeople, quote are quote, per choice15100:10:58.539 --> 00:11:01.259people say that, you know,you lie to the women. You show15200:11:01.299 --> 00:11:07.409them ultrasounds of Squirrel fetus their feetand that was a good so they've lied15300:11:07.450 --> 00:11:09.049to these women. So we've gotall we've got a pretty big challenge,15400:11:09.090 --> 00:11:15.570especially with sidewall counselors, but evenin a pregnancy center context, there's challenges15500:11:15.649 --> 00:11:20.039there because again you're dealing with awoman who's afraid, who thinks, at15600:11:20.039 --> 00:11:24.600least in some measure, that abortionmight be a solution for her. And15700:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.840you've got a contrast really, andthat's what we're doing. We're contrasting God's15800:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.909way, yeah, with their wayright. We're contrasting God's way, the15900:11:35.029 --> 00:11:37.590right way, the hard way,yeah, with the world's way. The16000:11:37.669 --> 00:11:43.669world is into quick fix solutions,take appeal, solve your problems. Just16100:11:43.830 --> 00:11:48.019go and have this five minute procedures. Solve your problem, and God's way16200:11:48.100 --> 00:11:54.340is trust me, and it doesn'tseem clear where things are going to lead16300:11:54.340 --> 00:11:58.659it. Ultimately you're trusting in God, right, and it's kind of like16400:11:58.220 --> 00:12:01.370you're in a storm. This ishow I describe it when I'm talking to16500:12:01.409 --> 00:12:05.049women at the abortion clinic or talkingto men. You're in a storm and16600:12:05.129 --> 00:12:07.809there's this storm of life, andwe're going to get into a little bit16700:12:07.809 --> 00:12:11.049of scripture talking about the storm andtalking about disciple being in the storm.16800:12:11.090 --> 00:12:15.009But you're in the storm and youcan't see that there's a shore on the16900:12:15.049 --> 00:12:18.279other side of that storm. IsYou're paling this boat of life, and17000:12:18.480 --> 00:12:22.440we encourage them. There's a Godthat's over it all. It sees from17100:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.879above the storm and he's calling youto trust him. And so that's the17200:12:24.960 --> 00:12:30.629message we're trying to convey. Butagain we've got some challenges that coming up17300:12:30.629 --> 00:12:33.190again, very limited time and sowell, that's another challenge, right,17400:12:33.230 --> 00:12:35.389and that tells you, see,have time and did time. We sometimes17500:12:35.470 --> 00:12:39.909only have as much as ten tofifteen seconds to begin to build that trust17600:12:39.309 --> 00:12:43.710but one of the things, asyou were speaking, that I believe is17700:12:43.110 --> 00:12:50.659perhaps very important in any difficult situationwhen you've got choices to make, is17800:12:50.820 --> 00:12:56.059to label the problem. And theproblem here really is who are you gonna17900:12:56.379 --> 00:13:00.970Trust? And I think sometimes justbeing very I've heard you over the microphone18000:13:01.049 --> 00:13:03.330say this many times to them.Who are you going to trust? Are18100:13:03.450 --> 00:13:09.169you going to trust God, orare you going to trust your own solutions18200:13:09.330 --> 00:13:13.240that has brought you to the worstplace on earth that you possibly could be18300:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.639and never wanted to be? Andso labeling the problem, that this is18400:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.600a problem of trust and and pointingout their alternatives, what you just did.18500:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.389You can trust God, or youcan trust the abortion industry, or18600:13:26.429 --> 00:13:31.269you can trust the abortion yeah,to and ultimately, of course, we18700:13:31.429 --> 00:13:35.789know it's trusting the devil, it'strussing the enemy exactly their soul and sat18800:13:35.909 --> 00:13:39.750me of their baby. Yeah,yeah. Well, one of the in18900:13:39.870 --> 00:13:43.860my mind is I'm thinking about thehurdles that we have to overcome, some19000:13:43.980 --> 00:13:48.100of the issues that we have todeal with and and what we're up against.19100:13:48.100 --> 00:13:52.059And we're trying to convince an abortionminded mom not not even just to19200:13:52.100 --> 00:13:56.210choose life, but just to comeover and talk with us. Is the19300:13:56.330 --> 00:13:58.610fact that she's already engaged. Imean I think there's, you know,19400:13:58.690 --> 00:14:03.450within pregnancy centers are certain language theyuse. They talk about abortion minded women,19500:14:03.529 --> 00:14:07.690abortion determined women. I think inone sense we're dealing with at an19600:14:07.730 --> 00:14:11.519abortion clinic is we're dealing with anabortion engaged woman, like she's engaged in19700:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.240the very act, like you can'tget more close than being at an abortion19800:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.679clinic to actually having an abortion.Her eyes are straight on that building which19900:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.120someone is going to take the lifeof her baby and she had so many20000:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.029times women have told me I agreewith everything you say, but I've got20100:14:28.110 --> 00:14:31.750an appointment. Yeah, they're focuses. I've got an appointment and that appointment20200:14:31.870 --> 00:14:35.389is with death and nothing is goingto determine so she's headed toward the abortion20300:14:35.470 --> 00:14:39.100said when they encounter us. Yeah, they're headed toward the abortion center.20400:14:39.779 --> 00:14:43.419They have their money in their handYEP, and they've already gone through the20500:14:43.779 --> 00:14:48.340counseling stuff over the phone off andso called counseling circle. Counsel. Trust20600:14:48.379 --> 00:14:52.889the abortion inst to give a goodday. Hey, they're good spiritual counsel.20700:14:54.009 --> 00:14:56.090He is ridiculous, but anyway,they they've gone through that, they've20800:14:56.090 --> 00:15:00.289got their money in their hand,they've been told there's these angry protesters.20900:15:00.409 --> 00:15:03.009Don't stop for them. So really, I'm just paying the picture, guys.21000:15:03.169 --> 00:15:09.200So the you understand, we're upagainst a pretty difficult challenge there.21100:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.480Yet the miracle is that anyone everchooses life, and I mean that's when21200:15:13.519 --> 00:15:18.519you're are, when someone even stopsand talk exactly takes our literature or sue.21300:15:18.440 --> 00:15:22.710You know, I say that notto scare people off and not to21400:15:22.789 --> 00:15:24.549say that we aren't effective out there. We certainly are. We've seen God21500:15:24.629 --> 00:15:28.830do amazing things. Yeah, butthe first and foremost set the stays that21600:15:28.950 --> 00:15:31.389we understand. This is why wetrain our sidewalk counselors. Most importantly,21700:15:31.509 --> 00:15:35.899that you need to be walking withGod, like the we need God on21800:15:35.980 --> 00:15:37.740our side. We need God todo the work, we need God to21900:15:37.820 --> 00:15:41.700move their hearts, we need Godto speak to their hearts. Yeah,22000:15:41.299 --> 00:15:46.179and God does it. We seeamazing things, but we also, I22100:15:46.299 --> 00:15:50.570think, practically because we're up againstso many challenges, because there's a trust22200:15:50.610 --> 00:15:54.370at these women have already placed inthe abortion industry, and the abortion industry22300:15:54.409 --> 00:15:58.570is already told them not to trustus that we need to be intentional and22400:15:58.809 --> 00:16:03.730careful in the way that we carryourselves and the way that we talk.22500:16:03.169 --> 00:16:07.039Like I don't want listen. I'mnot crafting the things that I say and22600:16:07.159 --> 00:16:11.279things that I don't say based onwhat the abortion industry says. So I'm22700:16:11.320 --> 00:16:15.360not saying that we need to basewhat we say and how we do ministry22800:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.110on the word of God. Primarily, right, that has to be our22900:16:18.509 --> 00:16:22.669our central source for information, theword of God. So I'm not saying23000:16:23.190 --> 00:16:26.230that we leave the word of out, out of the equation. I know23100:16:26.350 --> 00:16:29.549there are some people that say thatwe shouldn't be talking about God until some23200:16:30.110 --> 00:16:33.259certain point. We should mention scripturebecause it might, you know, stop23300:16:33.419 --> 00:16:37.539them from coming and talk to USwhatever. I think that's a ridiculous notion23400:16:37.700 --> 00:16:41.580anyway, because most of the peoplegoing into the abortion clinic, clinic coming23500:16:41.700 --> 00:16:45.220for abortions, will quote scripture toyou. Right, that shall not judge.23600:16:45.299 --> 00:16:48.090Yeah, that time, and you'reyou know, in one sense,23700:16:48.210 --> 00:16:51.889when you're quote scripture, you're remindingthem of things that they have known in23800:16:51.929 --> 00:16:53.889their past. They've been in church, they've been exposed to things in the23900:16:53.929 --> 00:16:57.129Bible belt. Yeah, absolutely.Anyway, I say all that, it's24000:16:57.169 --> 00:17:03.000a still yet we do need tobe careful not to reinforce some of the24100:17:03.039 --> 00:17:07.079stuff the abortion clinic or the prochoice people have told them. Yeah,24200:17:07.519 --> 00:17:11.079for example, we need to makesure the information that we convey is correct24300:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.230information, absolutely now to make surethat they do not ever catch us in24400:17:15.269 --> 00:17:18.630a life. For one thing,it dishonors God to lie, but for24500:17:18.789 --> 00:17:23.190another it just kind of supports whatthey are saying, reinforces what they you24600:17:23.230 --> 00:17:26.990know, quote pro choice people withthe pro abortion people have told them what24700:17:27.190 --> 00:17:30.220the abortion clinic is told them.You know, they show them pictures of24800:17:30.299 --> 00:17:34.380squirrel fetuses. They lie to themand tell them their baby is fully formed24900:17:34.460 --> 00:17:38.619at, you know, six weeksor whatever. So we need to make25000:17:38.660 --> 00:17:45.009sure that we're not doing that right. But we do need to convey information25100:17:45.130 --> 00:17:48.009right. Again, it needs tobe accurate information right. It needs to25200:17:48.049 --> 00:17:51.970be in such a way where,again, we're not like, okay,25300:17:52.049 --> 00:17:56.970I'll give you an example. I'veheard people say on our sidewalk not are25400:17:56.130 --> 00:18:00.079not cities for life people, becausethey because we're perfect. We're not.25500:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.240But I'm telling you, I wouldcorrect this right away, but I've heard25600:18:03.240 --> 00:18:07.680people say they've got a fifty fivegallon drum of dead babies in the back25700:18:07.720 --> 00:18:10.359of that abortion clinic? Ever heard? Somebody said, I have heard stuff25800:18:10.400 --> 00:18:12.390like that, but not from us. Yeah, yeah, like, no,25900:18:12.509 --> 00:18:15.950they don't. Actually they don't havea few, but know if they26000:18:15.069 --> 00:18:18.109did, because we're not allowed inthere anyway, right. But I mean26100:18:18.150 --> 00:18:21.789we've seen them take the boxes ofthat, you know, the baby,26200:18:21.910 --> 00:18:23.470dead babies out, which is agrievous thing. Yeah, and so you26300:18:23.549 --> 00:18:29.500might say they have. They putthe babies in biohazard bag and thrown away26400:18:29.539 --> 00:18:33.740you. We do say that that'strue, but just what you're trying to26500:18:33.779 --> 00:18:37.539do is you're trying, in onesense, to manipulate the facts and and26600:18:37.900 --> 00:18:41.059bring a picture to the mine,and which I understand that we need to26700:18:41.099 --> 00:18:42.730use words, we need to bringpictures to their mind. We need to26800:18:42.809 --> 00:18:48.890be talking about the violence of abortionwhen appropriate, when necessary. We certainly26900:18:48.930 --> 00:18:52.329do. But then bellish on thatjust chips away at any trust that we27000:18:52.369 --> 00:18:56.200would normally have, because any reasonableminded person would know they don't have a27100:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.240fifty five gallon drum a dead babiesin the back of the right clinic.27200:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.160And really the first picture that wepaid for them as us our face are27300:19:03.240 --> 00:19:08.079demeanor, our tone, those areall so critical in building trust. If27400:19:08.200 --> 00:19:15.309we look trustworthy, we speak respectfully, gently, kindly, we convey that27500:19:15.470 --> 00:19:19.549we are someone who can be trusted. So it before we ever open our27600:19:19.630 --> 00:19:23.190mouth to speak, which I believevery strongly we must do. Yeah,27700:19:23.579 --> 00:19:27.740but just are very fact that we'rewaving and smiling as they come in and27800:19:27.859 --> 00:19:32.460looking approachable is kind of, Ithink, the first step. Yeah,27900:19:32.500 --> 00:19:37.259and what that does is it chipsaway at what the abortion clinic is right,28000:19:37.380 --> 00:19:40.049because the abortion clinic is told themthere's going to be a bunch of28100:19:40.089 --> 00:19:41.690angry people out there yelling at youand calling you a murderer. Yeah,28200:19:41.730 --> 00:19:45.650and when what they encounter is somethingvery different. Yeah, then they begin.28300:19:45.809 --> 00:19:49.130And we've had women like you justshared who've told us. Well,28400:19:49.289 --> 00:19:52.720they said you're like this, butyou're not, and so I'm glad I28500:19:52.799 --> 00:19:56.400came over and talk to you.Yeah, so you're always surprised. Right.28600:19:56.559 --> 00:20:00.599So we want to you know again, we're not crafting what we say28700:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.240and thinking about what we say andwhat we do based on what the abortion28800:20:03.279 --> 00:20:04.960industry styes, we're doing it outof our love for God, our love28900:20:06.000 --> 00:20:07.470for people. What we see inthe scripture. Right, right, right.29000:20:07.789 --> 00:20:12.390But if what we done, whatwe do, really shows that what29100:20:12.470 --> 00:20:15.390the abortion industry, what the abortionclinic is told them is untrue, it29200:20:15.630 --> 00:20:18.710helps, it helps to take someof the trust, yeah, that they29300:20:18.829 --> 00:20:23.700put in the abortion clinic and toinvest that trust in at least hearing what29400:20:23.819 --> 00:20:26.579we have to say. Right,so great. So our information needs to29500:20:26.619 --> 00:20:30.619be truthful. Yes, it does. That's very important, and it needs29600:20:30.660 --> 00:20:34.660to be spiritually accurate as well.It needs to quote the Bible. Yeah,29700:20:34.730 --> 00:20:38.490curately is yeah, anyboy in scriptureand use and to use the words,29800:20:38.529 --> 00:20:42.329and I've got a whole slew,yeah, of verses that are about29900:20:42.769 --> 00:20:48.529trust, that that the the Biblehas to say, that God has to30000:20:48.609 --> 00:20:52.680say about trust. With this begood time for you to mention some of30100:20:52.759 --> 00:20:55.839us. So I won't go throughall of them, because we will.30200:20:56.599 --> 00:21:03.480Let me combat something. Or here'sanother level of of issues that we have30300:21:03.559 --> 00:21:06.670to deal with. Okay. Somethingwe're up against is that you have the30400:21:06.750 --> 00:21:08.069world's way. You know, theBible says there is a way that seems30500:21:08.109 --> 00:21:11.349right to man, kind of thatway of death. So you have the30600:21:11.390 --> 00:21:14.230world's way, its system, itssystem of thinking. Yes, what does30700:21:14.309 --> 00:21:17.549the world say about trust. Thinkabout it. Think. What is the30800:21:17.630 --> 00:21:22.019Hollywood mantra? Trust your heart,you trust your heart. Trust your heart.30900:21:22.059 --> 00:21:26.660Yeah, follow your feeling, notbit. Yeah, cool, trust31000:21:26.700 --> 00:21:30.259your heart because your heart will leadyou. That's a that. Listen,31100:21:30.339 --> 00:21:33.890the Bible says directly the opposite ofthat. Does says, if you trust31200:21:33.930 --> 00:21:36.450your heart, guess where you endup? In places of death. Yeah,31300:21:36.529 --> 00:21:38.490follow your heart and you'll follow itright to an abortion. Yeah,31400:21:38.650 --> 00:21:41.650people come to abortion clinics because theyfollow their heart. That's right. The31500:21:41.769 --> 00:21:45.730heart is deceptive above all else,the Bible says. Who can know it?31600:21:45.930 --> 00:21:51.519So if the heart is deceptive aboveall else, well then don't trust31700:21:51.559 --> 00:21:53.240your heart. But what, whatdo you trust? You're falling heart and31800:21:53.279 --> 00:21:56.720it's going to lead you to anabortion clinics. Anyway. I say that31900:21:56.920 --> 00:22:00.200to say that we're up against that. We're up against people that are following32000:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.109their heart. We're up against societythat says follow your heart. Yeah,32100:22:03.190 --> 00:22:07.910that's another level of like complications andissues that we have to come up against.32200:22:08.309 --> 00:22:11.470And so that's what again, selfishness, yeah, which is Putt of32300:22:11.509 --> 00:22:15.269men. That whole plays on thewhole idea. Follow your heart. Why?32400:22:15.349 --> 00:22:18.099Because you're the most important thing.Yeah, this is what for number32500:22:18.140 --> 00:22:19.579one, this is what I hearthat out of time. This is what's32600:22:19.619 --> 00:22:22.539best for me, not the thoughtabout what might be best for they.32700:22:22.660 --> 00:22:27.220And if you know you have thatsort of mindset and if you've your mindset32800:22:27.259 --> 00:22:32.170and your life has been crafted bythe ideas of the world and follow your32900:22:32.250 --> 00:22:36.410heart just seems natural. So we'reup against human nature, which is has33000:22:36.450 --> 00:22:38.890that propensity towards send and selfishness.Right, so we're up against that as33100:22:38.930 --> 00:22:44.289well. Yeah, and I thinkagain people need to understand what we're up33200:22:44.289 --> 00:22:48.799against, not to discourage us,but to encourage us, that we have33300:22:48.640 --> 00:22:53.920tools in God's word that we canuse, because God's word, the Bible33400:22:55.000 --> 00:23:00.069says of itself, God's word,is alive, active and sharper than need33500:23:00.109 --> 00:23:03.750two edged sword, he brews andtwelve, alive, active and sharper than33600:23:03.789 --> 00:23:08.630any two edged sword. It saysit's able to pierce the divide even between33700:23:08.829 --> 00:23:12.660soul and spirit, joint and marry. So what it's talking about is God's33800:23:12.700 --> 00:23:18.339words ability to get in and todo a surgeon's job. God's word will33900:23:18.380 --> 00:23:22.740cut through the mass, it willcut through the lies, it'll cut through34000:23:22.980 --> 00:23:26.259the bull crap, yeah, fullcrap and get right to it. And34100:23:26.339 --> 00:23:32.490that's why we cannot, as sidewallcounselors, as pregnancy center counselors, neglect34200:23:32.490 --> 00:23:34.130the word of God. We cannotneglect the word of God. Now,34300:23:34.329 --> 00:23:37.730that doesn't mean that we need tobe constantly throwing Bible verses at people.34400:23:37.849 --> 00:23:41.480Understand you know, there's we don'twant to do that, Shoven the Gospel34500:23:41.519 --> 00:23:47.200downs people's throat through whatever. Buteverything that we say needs to be informed34600:23:47.799 --> 00:23:51.640by and seasoned with the word ofGod and we ought to be quote in34700:23:51.680 --> 00:23:53.720scripture. We ought to be saying, well, understand, your situation is34800:23:53.759 --> 00:23:56.430such, but you know, theBible says this. Right, he called34900:23:56.670 --> 00:24:00.589word tells us. I know yoursituation is difficult, but Psalm Forty six35000:24:00.710 --> 00:24:04.950one tells us God is a refugein strength, a very present help in35100:24:06.190 --> 00:24:10.980trouble. Right, and what yousaid undergirding everything that we do and say.35200:24:11.220 --> 00:24:14.779So we may not even be quotingall these scriptures about trust. I35300:24:14.900 --> 00:24:18.579don't know that I quote them veryoften about trust itself, but when I35400:24:18.700 --> 00:24:21.980have that scripture in my heart andI'm familiar with it and I know what35500:24:22.059 --> 00:24:26.690the Bible says about trust, Iam more able to then go forth and35600:24:26.170 --> 00:24:30.289know how to help them to trustin God. Yeah, altimate. Yeah,35700:24:30.289 --> 00:24:33.970because you know, it's believers.We need to have assurance in the35800:24:33.170 --> 00:24:36.809Lord that we can. You know, you can't give what you don't have35900:24:37.170 --> 00:24:40.559exactly. And so if you're tryingto convey to an abortion amounted woman,36000:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.240a woman at an abortion clinic,that she needs to trust God, if36100:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.319you don't have trust in him rightyourself right, you can have a hard36200:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.119time convinced her to trust the Lord. So you should be sure of God's36300:24:49.160 --> 00:24:52.710word yourself and of course, ifyou're a believer, you are in God's36400:24:52.750 --> 00:24:56.349helping you more and more to trusthim. Yeah, but we need to36500:24:56.430 --> 00:24:59.910be in God's Word on regular basis, and I want to encourage people with36600:25:00.109 --> 00:25:03.710too, and this is what weencourage our sidewalk counselors here with. You36700:25:03.869 --> 00:25:07.069got to be in constant fellowship withthe Lord, because this Ministry is not36800:25:07.109 --> 00:25:08.779a ministry you're going to be ableto do out of your own strength.36900:25:10.180 --> 00:25:11.420You're not going to be able todo it out of your own wisdom and37000:25:11.579 --> 00:25:15.339the world's wisdom. As much asmedical science might be on our on our37100:25:15.420 --> 00:25:19.140side, and it is Yep,medical science is not going to change a37200:25:19.180 --> 00:25:23.009human heart that's bent on doing somethingvery selfish. It never says in the37300:25:23.049 --> 00:25:27.170Bible that I could find trust inmedical science. Never. No, I'm37400:25:27.250 --> 00:25:30.289not saying that medical science, again, is not on our side. It37500:25:30.369 --> 00:25:33.410is. It is, and I'mnot saying that it's not a tool that37600:25:33.490 --> 00:25:37.799we can use. We certainly can. That's one of our what we call37700:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.839our three talking points when we're taught, when we're teaching side what counsels is37800:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.039fetal development. We get that frommedical science, right, right. The37900:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.000humanity of the baby can be provenscientifically. Exactly. Yeah, but what38000:25:48.079 --> 00:25:51.670does that even matter? If youthink about it, what does the humanity38100:25:51.750 --> 00:25:55.829of the baby even matter if God'snot brought into the equation? You're just38200:25:55.990 --> 00:26:00.309talking about killing another animal anyway.Yeah, so God has to be brought38300:26:00.309 --> 00:26:03.390into the equation. God's word doesn'tmean, again, that we can't use38400:26:03.470 --> 00:26:07.339some of these things to our advantage. We can and we should. But38500:26:07.420 --> 00:26:11.259if God's words not brought into theequation, then nothing else has the ability38600:26:11.299 --> 00:26:15.940as God's word does, to changethe human heart. These women have to38700:26:17.019 --> 00:26:22.410see from yeah, I think theHoly Spirit shows it to him that they38800:26:22.490 --> 00:26:25.890can't trust the abortion industry, theycan't trust, ultimately, the devil.38900:26:26.569 --> 00:26:30.849They need to trust the Lord.They need to trust what God says about39000:26:30.849 --> 00:26:33.759them, about their baby, abouttheir situation, rather than the abortion industry.39100:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.319Yeah, and the people that Godhas sent. They need to they39200:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.599need to listen to I had awoman a couple of days ago who,39300:26:40.640 --> 00:26:45.759when I asked her about what broughther here and what her obstacles were,39400:26:47.119 --> 00:26:52.150she said basically that it was allabout her. Yeah, but then she39500:26:52.549 --> 00:26:56.109said that she knew in her heartthat this was the right thing to do39600:26:56.910 --> 00:27:03.380and and that before God her heart, he knew her heart. That's what39700:27:03.500 --> 00:27:07.500she said. He knows my heart. I said, well, do you39800:27:07.579 --> 00:27:10.660know what the Bible says? Hesays about your heart. Yeah, and39900:27:11.220 --> 00:27:14.660and I started quoting about the hardestdeceitful above all else. And and I40000:27:14.819 --> 00:27:18.329I asked her the series of questions. Have you ever lied, stolen lust40100:27:18.369 --> 00:27:23.769it after someone spoken ill of someone, and and and she said that she40200:27:23.890 --> 00:27:26.049had to all of those. AndI said, what do you think your40300:27:26.089 --> 00:27:32.680heart looks like in reality then,and and she agreed that maybe her heart40400:27:32.720 --> 00:27:36.200didn't look as good as as shethought, that it did. So that's40500:27:36.240 --> 00:27:40.440kind of an example of using scriptureto kind of bring someone to the conclusion40600:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.119that their belief was wrong, wherethey were trusting in their heart was just40700:27:44.910 --> 00:27:48.789wrong. Yeah, and what don'twant you guys that are listening to understand,40800:27:48.950 --> 00:27:52.230because we're talking, you know,heavy about using the word of God,40900:27:52.309 --> 00:27:55.269we're talking about how the word ofGod comes against lies and we're talking41000:27:55.269 --> 00:28:00.500about wielding the sword of the spirit. But again, we're up against a41100:28:00.859 --> 00:28:07.700lot and they've been told we're abunch of angry protesters whatever. So that's41200:28:07.740 --> 00:28:10.019why we need to be careful inthe way that we like you, can41300:28:10.140 --> 00:28:12.849convey certain truths, like what you'retalking about, showing someone that their heart41400:28:14.250 --> 00:28:18.490is deceitful above all things and desperatelywicked. Yeah, and you can do41500:28:18.609 --> 00:28:22.369it very graciously, you can doit in a way where you're not just41600:28:22.569 --> 00:28:26.450accusing and pointing the finger. See, biblically, we have to come from41700:28:26.450 --> 00:28:30.519a position of we've sinned and fallenshort of the glory of God as well,41800:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.839we've failed the Lord as well andwe need a savior as well.41900:28:34.160 --> 00:28:41.119Right, and even though we're notliving in sin, we came from a42000:28:41.200 --> 00:28:44.829lifestyle of sin. We need tocome from a perspective of we're no better42100:28:44.869 --> 00:28:51.190apart from Christ, then they areright and we can speak graciously into situations42200:28:51.509 --> 00:28:55.509like that because we see hey setfor the grace of God, I'd be42300:28:55.589 --> 00:28:57.180right where you are exactly, youknow. So when we're speaking from that42400:28:57.299 --> 00:29:03.420perspective we're speaking graciously and I thinkit is as much as people might minimize42500:29:03.460 --> 00:29:07.099that. I think tone does matter, the tone of voice that we use.42600:29:07.819 --> 00:29:11.329It goes a long way and Ithink there's there's a proverb that speaks42700:29:11.369 --> 00:29:14.130to that. I quit this proverba lot to our side Walt counselors and42800:29:14.210 --> 00:29:17.369other people who are not our sidebaltcounselors who would I would like for them42900:29:17.450 --> 00:29:19.410not to be so so loud andobnoxious in the way that they talk.43000:29:19.809 --> 00:29:23.920Yes, is the proverb that saysif you bless your brother early in the43100:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.200morning loudly, it will be perceivedas a curse. Basically, what it's43200:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.160saying is you can say as niceas stuff as you want, if you43300:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.279say that the wrong time and inthe wrong volume, it's not going to43400:29:34.319 --> 00:29:37.160be received as a blessing, it'sgoing to be received as a curse.43500:29:37.750 --> 00:29:41.589So our tone does matter. Yeah, our tone, accept the tone.43600:29:41.789 --> 00:29:45.990That's what we say. Your tonesets the tone in your time and can43700:29:45.069 --> 00:29:48.509matter. You know, you lookand you pray for those opportune times in43800:29:48.630 --> 00:29:52.339a conversation with a mom who's comeover and talk to you or with the43900:29:52.420 --> 00:29:56.619mom who's stopped her vehicle and pulledover to talk to you on the side44000:29:56.619 --> 00:30:00.059of the road. You look forthose opportune times to introduce the conviction of44100:30:00.140 --> 00:30:04.259sin, the reality. You know, I've spoken, I mean very forthrightly,44200:30:04.339 --> 00:30:07.250with men in front of the abortionclinic about their sexual sin. Yeah,44300:30:07.250 --> 00:30:11.930about their guilt before God and theirmanipulation of women. I mean I've44400:30:11.970 --> 00:30:15.890encountered men that have taken three andfour women to the abortion clinic because they44500:30:15.930 --> 00:30:18.849got them pregnant, having second southout of her. But I'll wait for44600:30:18.930 --> 00:30:22.000the opportune time not to tell themthat they're a filthy, wretched center,44700:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.839but to let them tell themselves.That's what I like so much as effective44800:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.720thing, to really ask questions andlet them draw their own conclusion. Yeah,44900:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.440listening to watching Rad Comfort Videos,U see, that's exactly what he45000:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.869does. He's taking them through thelaw and he says, have you ever45100:30:38.029 --> 00:30:41.549lied? Yeah, well, whatdoes that make you? And that's a45200:30:41.670 --> 00:30:44.869really good method. You're asking questions, you're drawing it out of them.45300:30:44.950 --> 00:30:51.420They're seeing and in hearing from theirown mouth their guilt before God for their45400:30:51.539 --> 00:30:53.220sin. Right, yeah, andit that's a that's a helpful way,45500:30:53.259 --> 00:30:57.779in a very gracious but fourth rightway to address these issues. Yeah,45600:30:57.819 --> 00:31:03.259yeah, well, so let's lookat some of these becauses now. The45700:31:03.380 --> 00:31:06.809first one is from proverbs. Proverbs, it's so good. Yeah, proverbs45800:31:06.890 --> 00:31:11.769three, five, trust in theLord with all your heart and do not45900:31:11.930 --> 00:31:15.569lean on your own understanding. Yeah, so that's they're leaning on their own46000:31:15.569 --> 00:31:18.519understanding, right. Or Yeah,trust in the Lord with all of your46100:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.359heart and I lean on your ownunderstanding and all of your ways. Acknowledge46200:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.079Him and he would direct your right. Yeah, passed. So that's a46300:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.039scripture. Erect it. Yeah,right, you direct your path, you46400:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.470follow your heart, you follow yourways, you end up in an abortion46500:31:33.509 --> 00:31:37.190clinic, you follow the Lord andhe'll direct your path. He'll direct your46600:31:37.230 --> 00:31:40.549path out of the abortion clinic.And so this is a scripture that talks46700:31:40.589 --> 00:31:45.029about trust and it really contrasts withthe trust that a woman has an abortion46800:31:45.349 --> 00:31:49.099and the abortion industry with the trustthat she should have in the Lord.46900:31:49.099 --> 00:31:53.339And I think this is an importantscripture to remind these mothers about that God47000:31:53.420 --> 00:31:56.980can be trusted and you ought totrust it. Yeah, and this one47100:31:56.220 --> 00:32:00.740is one that I actually will sayto the women quite often. For one,47200:32:00.779 --> 00:32:02.849it's one of the few I remember. I'm not very good memorization,47300:32:02.930 --> 00:32:07.970but it's such a good one,it's so appropriate. So the next one.47400:32:07.329 --> 00:32:13.170Blessed is the man who trust inthe Lord. Whose Trust is the47500:32:13.329 --> 00:32:17.599Lord Jeremiah, seventeen seven. Yeah, and you know what we're talking about47600:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.160when we're talking about trusted in theLords? We're talking about the character of47700:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.799God. Really, you know,if you think about trust, what is47800:32:24.880 --> 00:32:30.869it? It's really a faith inthe character of that entity or that person47900:32:31.750 --> 00:32:37.309that you're trusting. Right. Yeah, and I think as sidewalk counselors,48000:32:37.750 --> 00:32:39.710one of the things that we cando to help women to see that they48100:32:39.750 --> 00:32:43.869can trust the Lord, and Ithink, I know this is very biblical,48200:32:44.339 --> 00:32:49.220is to share testimonies, to sharestories about what God has done in48300:32:49.299 --> 00:32:52.339certain situations. I mean, oneof the ways that I will try to48400:32:52.420 --> 00:32:55.579gain trust from people as I'm talkingto him or even as I'm talking on48500:32:55.619 --> 00:32:59.730the microphone, is sharing with them. Listen, I've seen women in your48600:32:59.809 --> 00:33:04.529situation and I've seen God do amazingthings. Would you come over and just48700:33:04.730 --> 00:33:07.849let me show you some of thehelp that God has available for I am48800:33:07.890 --> 00:33:10.849a woman who was in your situationand I did what you did and I48900:33:12.009 --> 00:33:15.680know the pain and sorrow. Butlet me tell you about how God changed49000:33:15.799 --> 00:33:21.079my life and changed me and broughtset me on a solid path. Yeah,49100:33:21.079 --> 00:33:23.519I might and right. And soyou're sick. You're sharing these stories49200:33:23.880 --> 00:33:28.990and you're sharing these testimonies because you'reestablishing, helping, establishing their mind the49300:33:29.069 --> 00:33:30.910character of this God that you're talkingabout, that he is good, that49400:33:31.029 --> 00:33:37.390he does care, that he isable to cause dramatic, radical change in49500:33:37.549 --> 00:33:40.539your life that you maybe have neverfelt her seen before. And if you49600:33:40.819 --> 00:33:45.619have experienced that, we all knowthat every true believer who speaks of that49700:33:45.779 --> 00:33:51.779transformative power of Christ in their ownlife is compelling. People want that,49800:33:52.099 --> 00:33:55.089people are on to that. Yeah, and if you look in the Old49900:33:55.170 --> 00:34:00.049Testament, you look at some ofthe psalms and you look at how the50000:34:00.130 --> 00:34:06.410Psalmist recounts the faithfulness of God andeven recounting the exodus from Egypt and how50100:34:06.490 --> 00:34:09.440God had been faithful to bring hispeople into the promised land. What is50200:34:09.480 --> 00:34:15.119he doing? What's The psalmist doingthere? He's conveying the faithfulness of God50300:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.840to the people that are reading andsinging this psalm and they're singing about the50400:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.400faithfulness of God. If you thinkabout a lot of our songs in Church,50500:34:22.760 --> 00:34:25.429they surround the faithfulness in the goodnessof God and what God has brought50600:34:25.469 --> 00:34:29.789us from, what God has donein our lives. Yeah, and all50700:34:29.869 --> 00:34:31.789through the scripture we see this commonthread of what God has done. Look50800:34:31.789 --> 00:34:35.909what the Lord has done, lookat the faithfulness of God, and that's50900:34:35.949 --> 00:34:40.019all there to help us and remindus that this God that we're talking about,51000:34:40.059 --> 00:34:44.659we're trying to encourage people to trustin, is good, he's faithful,51100:34:44.659 --> 00:34:46.619that he comes through, that hecan be trusted, so trust him,51200:34:46.619 --> 00:34:50.739you know. Yeah, and it'sa theme in Scriptures, a very51300:34:50.780 --> 00:34:53.250common thing. It is in acounterpoint to that which I do sometimes tell51400:34:53.289 --> 00:34:58.570the women is now contrast that thatpicture of God that has just been painted51500:34:59.130 --> 00:35:01.409with. When you trusted in yourself, when you trust it in your own51600:35:01.449 --> 00:35:07.480choices, when you trusted in yourown solutions. Where have they brought you?51700:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.760Yeah, and they brought them toa place of death and destruction,51800:35:09.800 --> 00:35:15.480and they all know that. That'sundeniable and most of them don't want to51900:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.039be there. Right. I wouldsay none of them truly want to be52000:35:19.239 --> 00:35:23.429there. So anyway. So thenext one and Psalm fifty six, three52100:35:23.590 --> 00:35:28.030to four, and then verse thirteenin that Psalm. Some fifty six.52200:35:28.309 --> 00:35:31.190Okay, when I am afraid,I put my trust in you, in52300:35:31.429 --> 00:35:36.179God, who's where I praise.In God, I trust. I shall52400:35:36.260 --> 00:35:40.739not be afraid. What can fleshdo to me, for you have delivered52500:35:40.940 --> 00:35:45.539my soul from death, yes,my feet from falling, that I may52600:35:45.659 --> 00:35:49.619walk before God in the light oflife. So there's a there's a psalm,52700:35:49.980 --> 00:35:53.369just like something about David recounting thefaithfulness of God. You have done52800:35:53.489 --> 00:35:57.690this, therefore, I know Ican trust you've been faith in the past.52900:35:57.769 --> 00:36:00.730Therefore I can trust you in thefuture. And when I'm afraid,53000:36:00.929 --> 00:36:04.090to which these women, I think, relate to that, I mean they53100:36:04.130 --> 00:36:07.320are, they are giving into fearnine times out of town. Oh,53200:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.199absolutely. So we can remind themof the faithfulness of God. Yeah,53300:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.159we can remind them of the faithfulnessof God in the Scriptures. We conminded53400:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.750them of certain scriptures where God camethrough in the Scriptures. Also the faithfulness53500:36:19.750 --> 00:36:22.230of God in our own lives,the faithfulness of God. I remember I53600:36:22.469 --> 00:36:27.550shared a couple of podcasts go aboutthe young lady who, by God's grace,53700:36:27.590 --> 00:36:30.469and we talked about man and canman be effective administer and how God's53800:36:30.510 --> 00:36:32.820Great. By God's grace, shechose life and one of the things that53900:36:32.980 --> 00:36:37.579God used is meet reminding her aboutthe faithfulness of God in her life and54000:36:37.619 --> 00:36:40.780how God has been faithful in thepast and how God had lined things up54100:36:40.860 --> 00:36:44.460in her life in such a waywhere she could actually have this baby and54200:36:44.539 --> 00:36:46.170have her needs met, and allof this because she had given you enough54300:36:46.210 --> 00:36:51.570information that you were able to tozone in on. Yeah, Hey,54400:36:51.650 --> 00:36:54.130there's an example of God's faithfulness inthis student's life and you're probably storing that54500:36:54.210 --> 00:36:58.329in your head, thinking I needto speak to her. Yeah, absolutely,54600:36:59.050 --> 00:37:01.760and it's important to remind people ofthe faithfulness of God. Hey,54700:37:01.960 --> 00:37:07.400as believers, it's important for usto remind each other of the faithfulness of54800:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.079God. Sometimes I need to bereminded when I'm down, when I'm in54900:37:10.360 --> 00:37:15.630a difficult situation, when I'm dealingwith just the anxiety of whatever stress going55000:37:15.670 --> 00:37:20.269on, I need to be remindedof the faithfulness of God. That's why55100:37:20.309 --> 00:37:22.869it's important for us to be inchurch and hear the word of God's why55200:37:22.949 --> 00:37:25.469is important for us to encourage oneanother daily, as long as it's called55300:37:25.510 --> 00:37:29.230today, as the Bible says,because we, even his believers, need55400:37:29.269 --> 00:37:35.019to be reminded. Listen, yourfuture is unsure, unclear, like everybody's55500:37:35.019 --> 00:37:37.619future is. No one knows thefuture, but God does, and God,55600:37:37.739 --> 00:37:40.780who has been faithful in the past, will be faithful in the future,55700:37:42.019 --> 00:37:45.449and that is an important truth forus to convey to an abortion minded55800:37:45.530 --> 00:37:47.730mom. Again, we're dealing withmajority, at least here in the south.55900:37:47.969 --> 00:37:52.050The majority of these women have beenin church. Majority of these women56000:37:52.650 --> 00:37:55.769know things about the Lord, right, and so we're reminding them of things56100:37:55.849 --> 00:38:00.119that they'd already known. Yeah,so that ultimately, again, they take56200:38:00.199 --> 00:38:05.159the trust that they've put into theabortion clinic and abortion and invest that trust56300:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.519actually in the Lord. Yeah,and one of the things that they're losing56400:38:07.639 --> 00:38:13.550side, if I do think isis eternity and what's happening to their soul56500:38:13.869 --> 00:38:16.230as they're making choices to rebel againstGod. They know it's a choice to56600:38:16.309 --> 00:38:21.030rebel against God almost overwhelmingly, andI love in in this palm where it56700:38:21.110 --> 00:38:25.590says for you have delivered my soulfrom death. So reminding them again who56800:38:27.110 --> 00:38:31.860really holds eternity, your eternity inhis hand. It's not the abortionist.56900:38:31.980 --> 00:38:36.579Yeah, it's God. And doyou really want to make a choice that57000:38:36.820 --> 00:38:40.849is going to draw you further fromGod or closer to God? Well,57100:38:40.889 --> 00:38:44.250you know, I think with this, I mean we've gone through a lot57200:38:44.329 --> 00:38:47.210of scripture. I think we've laidout a good spiritual case about how we57300:38:47.409 --> 00:38:52.889asside counsel as we as ministers inand pro life, in a pro life57400:38:52.929 --> 00:38:57.199capacity, can help an abortion mindedmom to take the trust that she's put57500:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.679in the abortion clinic and put thattrust in the Lord. I hope we've57600:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.119given you guys some principles, atleast from our experience, and I think57700:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.199we've got more to share on thistopic. Yeah, so we'll do a57800:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.190part two to this because we can'tgo much longer, right, but we'll57900:39:09.230 --> 00:39:14.230do a part two and hopefully thiswas a blessing you guys, and we58000:39:14.309 --> 00:39:17.949appreciate you listening appreciate you guys thatshare this podcast. Please continue to share58100:39:17.989 --> 00:39:22.030this podcast send us ideas about futurepodcasts. We love to hear what your58200:39:22.070 --> 00:39:25.940ideas are and you can get intouch with me. D Parks at cities58300:39:25.980 --> 00:39:30.500for lifecom. V COSSI ORG atcities for lifecom for her. But until58400:39:30.539 --> 00:39:42.929next time, God bless. Giveme our love for love. Give me58500:39:43.690 --> 00:39:54.920our loft for gratitude. I knowit will cost me my life. Nothing's58600:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.559too precious, and some me you