Nov. 11, 2021

Grumbling and Complaining in Ministry

Grumbling and Complaining in Ministry

There is always the temptation to grumble and complain about the hardships we experience in life and ministry. In a ministry as intense as this the temptation can even me stronger. In the episode, we talk about how to resist the temptation to grumble and complain and instead embrace an attitude of gratitude and joy.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:06.080 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. S and me, 2 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:11.669 Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the 3 00:00:11.750 --> 00:00:17.629 Gospel Center pre life podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge 4 00:00:17.670 --> 00:00:21.660 you in pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay 5 00:00:21.739 --> 00:00:32.820 tuned, I felt show Passish, touch your heart, use me love. 6 00:00:35.140 --> 00:00:39.810 Welcome back to the Gospel centered pro life podcast. Appreciate you guys listening and, 7 00:00:39.929 --> 00:00:43.409 as always, would appreciate if you guys would share this podcast episode and 8 00:00:43.850 --> 00:00:48.810 if you would give us a review. Leave US review on Itunes or however 9 00:00:49.009 --> 00:00:54.240 else you get podcast. We would love to combat some of the negative reviews 10 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:57.240 that we've had from pro abortion people, although we see that as a badge 11 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:03.000 of honor we praise God for every time we are persecuted or marginalized for the 12 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:07.750 name of Jesus, and we try our best to have a good attitude and 13 00:01:07.909 --> 00:01:12.469 not to grumble and complain about what people say against us. Jesus said it 14 00:01:12.709 --> 00:01:17.030 that people would if they hated me, Jesus said, then they're going to 15 00:01:17.109 --> 00:01:23.420 hate you, and so us being hated and maligned by people is just kind 16 00:01:23.459 --> 00:01:29.299 of a natural outflow of our identification with Jesus, and we're going to talk 17 00:01:29.299 --> 00:01:33.370 about that today. Actually, we did a podcast, hopefully you guys listen 18 00:01:33.489 --> 00:01:38.209 to last week that came out about joy and US having joy on the sidewalk 19 00:01:38.290 --> 00:01:42.329 and knowing the Lord is what brings joy to us and we can have joy 20 00:01:42.409 --> 00:01:46.170 on our faces and enjoy in our lives and joy in our hearts. That 21 00:01:46.370 --> 00:01:49.719 is conveyed to the women going in that don't have joy. They could help 22 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.319 us to really just be compelling for them to come over and talk with us 23 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:59.879 and we need to have joy. We're going to kind of contrast this episode 24 00:01:59.959 --> 00:02:05.349 with that episode in a little a little bit or in some ways, because 25 00:02:05.390 --> 00:02:09.830 we're going to talk about the title the article that you wrote here's the dangers 26 00:02:09.990 --> 00:02:15.219 and antidote to grumbling in sidewalk ministry. And I think as a lot of 27 00:02:15.500 --> 00:02:20.780 just like our joy topic, a lot of our topics, you can you 28 00:02:20.819 --> 00:02:23.020 can apply this to any any ministry. The ministry that we're involved in and 29 00:02:23.180 --> 00:02:28.539 we're talking about in this podcast is the sidewalk ministry at abortion centers. But 30 00:02:28.580 --> 00:02:35.250 I think there's dangers and biblical antidotes to grumbling and complaining in any area of 31 00:02:35.409 --> 00:02:39.009 ministry or any area. We're like, quite honestly, yeah, you know, 32 00:02:39.169 --> 00:02:45.039 not just ministry. Yeah, so we're going to talk about the dangers 33 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:51.599 of grumbling and the antidote to grumbling in light of sidewalk ministry. But again 34 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:58.590 we can apply this to many areas of life and warnings and rebukes throughout the 35 00:02:58.629 --> 00:03:07.710 scriptures about grumbling or I mean cash, so, so many that we won't 36 00:03:07.710 --> 00:03:09.389 be able to touch on all the scriptures where God rebukes. Even, of 37 00:03:09.430 --> 00:03:14.219 course, the children is are about grumbling. But even the New Testament, 38 00:03:14.699 --> 00:03:21.020 the Bible warns us about grumbling and about complaining. And so let's jump into 39 00:03:21.020 --> 00:03:25.099 a Vikulous talk about grumbling and the dangers of grumbling and the antidote. Yeah, 40 00:03:25.180 --> 00:03:29.490 the Bible gives us. Yeah. Well, I think a great place 41 00:03:29.610 --> 00:03:36.530 to start as the the verse Philippians to fourteen do all things without grumbling or 42 00:03:36.650 --> 00:03:42.599 disputing, and that's a really important verse. It says do all things without 43 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:49.120 grumbling or disputing. And we're in a difficult ministry. We've talked about that 44 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:57.189 a lot. It is a Ministry of rejection. Lot of unjust actions are 45 00:03:57.349 --> 00:04:04.030 taken against us, a lot of cruelty, even from the pro abortion crowd 46 00:04:04.550 --> 00:04:11.699 and I think it is easy for us to justify our complaining. Yeah, 47 00:04:11.699 --> 00:04:15.939 and I know until I wrote this article, that was kind of where I 48 00:04:15.339 --> 00:04:21.540 was. I hear it from everyone. I am guilty of it, very 49 00:04:21.660 --> 00:04:26.889 guilty of it, not just on the sidewalk, to be frank, but 50 00:04:28.129 --> 00:04:34.569 but particularly on the sidewalk. And as I was working on this article I 51 00:04:34.810 --> 00:04:42.000 realized more and more, Wow, not only is this not godly behavior, 52 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:51.480 but it is damaging behavior and, in contrast to our podcast last time, 53 00:04:53.750 --> 00:05:00.750 it detracts from the joy that we feel out there and therefore is a danger 54 00:05:00.269 --> 00:05:04.949 in taking us away from the sidewalk. And I think indeed we have lost 55 00:05:04.949 --> 00:05:14.779 sidewalk counselors because they become so discouraged for by the pro abortion group. Yeah, 56 00:05:14.899 --> 00:05:19.180 so this this was born. This podcast, this article came out of 57 00:05:19.259 --> 00:05:27.970 again, real life experiences on the sidewalk with fellow counselors and I was just 58 00:05:28.170 --> 00:05:34.689 becoming very aware that a lot of our time was spent complaining about the pro 59 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:42.120 abortion crowd. Everything that was said was true. They it, they really 60 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:46.959 are rough and and it really is uncalled for. It. It is childish 61 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:55.550 and sometimes very cruel, but it I realize more of our time was spent 62 00:05:55.750 --> 00:06:04.019 discussing that, sometimes than praising God or praying. While while we were out 63 00:06:04.060 --> 00:06:10.100 there and I thought this is this is probably worth discussing, because I can't 64 00:06:10.100 --> 00:06:16.860 imagine our teams are different from anyone else, that anyone out on the sidewalk 65 00:06:16.939 --> 00:06:23.449 in such a difficult ministry is, I think, likely to fall fall prey 66 00:06:23.529 --> 00:06:29.569 about to this. Yeah, yeah, in some cities, and I know 67 00:06:29.769 --> 00:06:33.879 here in southern California, we don't yet have a lot of pro abortion presence. 68 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:38.879 So there's not yet a lot of opposition. I say yet because I 69 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:41.879 think it's probably coming up. told the folks here that it's a badge of 70 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:45.680 honor if pro abortion people show up because you know that you're being effective. 71 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:48.750 Now pro abortion people haven't yet showed up out here. Maybe a few random 72 00:06:48.750 --> 00:06:51.870 people here and there. So I don't mean to say that they're not effective. 73 00:06:51.870 --> 00:06:56.829 There's certainly the teams here being very effective, but it's told them expect 74 00:06:56.949 --> 00:07:00.269 this. These pro abortion people are going to come along. But I will 75 00:07:00.310 --> 00:07:04.420 say that they're not the only reason for grumbling. There could be other things. 76 00:07:04.699 --> 00:07:10.100 Laws that are passed that are hindering what you're doing, or at least 77 00:07:10.100 --> 00:07:13.300 seeking to hinder what you're doing. That's happening here in California. Laws that 78 00:07:13.339 --> 00:07:17.209 are passed to really intimidate and make people feel like can we even be out 79 00:07:17.250 --> 00:07:23.889 on the sidewalk? Also interactions with police officers. That can be a point 80 00:07:23.930 --> 00:07:29.970 for grumbling and just being just having a negative attitude. The lack of involvement 81 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:32.120 of the church. It's like where's the church at? And this is this 82 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:35.319 is a real problem here, and so I just want to kind of kind 83 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:43.240 of lump all these these points of contention or points of discouragement in together, 84 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:46.350 because they can all serve to get us in an attitude of grumbling. In 85 00:07:46.470 --> 00:07:51.149 something I think that I've shared on this podcast before that I kind of use 86 00:07:51.189 --> 00:07:55.269 as a term around our house, and this will tie into this. This 87 00:07:55.430 --> 00:08:01.220 this whole grumbling subject, grumbling and complaining, is your attitude determines your altitude. 88 00:08:01.220 --> 00:08:05.540 Yeah, right, yeah, if you want to fly above the situations, 89 00:08:05.579 --> 00:08:07.660 you want to soar above the situations, then have a good attitude, 90 00:08:09.259 --> 00:08:11.620 but if you want to be under it and you want to be under oppression 91 00:08:11.660 --> 00:08:18.610 and depression and discourage, then just have a bad attitude. And really the 92 00:08:18.810 --> 00:08:24.810 gateway to just a bad attitude is grumbling right and complain. Yeah, yeah, 93 00:08:24.089 --> 00:08:30.800 and it can quickly devolve into gossip. I think it sometimes starts off 94 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:35.000 as grumbling and you feel justified and then they're starts to creep in, making 95 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:46.429 fun of whatever you're grumbling about or name calling whatever you're grumbling about or telling 96 00:08:46.669 --> 00:08:50.710 stories about whomever you're grumbling about, and that that's clearly, clearly gossip. 97 00:08:52.190 --> 00:08:58.220 I do want to say that what I don't want to convey two people is 98 00:08:58.659 --> 00:09:05.259 that there is not a legitimate place for sharing one another's burdens and and you 99 00:09:05.340 --> 00:09:09.690 know, I'll go back to the example of the pro abortion crowd. There 100 00:09:09.769 --> 00:09:16.289 are they've sometimes brought us to tears and there there are times when we just 101 00:09:16.690 --> 00:09:24.639 really do need to unload on an understanding friend or fellow counselor who's been through 102 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:31.399 it, yeah, in order to kind of brush that off and and move 103 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.879 on. So I think there is a legitimate place for that, but that's 104 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:41.549 not what really what we're talking about. It can be what we're talking about, 105 00:09:41.549 --> 00:09:48.950 but I think, I think when we start just complaining about things that 106 00:09:50.350 --> 00:09:54.539 honestly, we should expect these people are not saved, they don't know God. 107 00:09:54.500 --> 00:10:00.539 We honestly should not be surprised that they're not acting in an honorable, 108 00:10:00.580 --> 00:10:05.940 God fearing manner. Right. This is just what we would expect. And 109 00:10:05.139 --> 00:10:11.370 and so when I was thinking about when is it okay to grumble, and 110 00:10:11.450 --> 00:10:16.210 I grumble is probably not the correct word in that case, but when, 111 00:10:16.289 --> 00:10:22.720 I think it's important to ask ourselves before we start grumbling, will my complaining 112 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:31.360 or bringing up up this issue do anything to evoke change in a positive, 113 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:37.230 God honoring way? Yeah, and just complaining about them being who they are 114 00:10:39.309 --> 00:10:43.990 in terms of talking about the pro abortion people. I don't see how that's 115 00:10:43.110 --> 00:10:48.269 going to in any way honor God or bring about change. And in fact, 116 00:10:48.309 --> 00:10:54.419 what I do see is it it takes our focus off of our mission 117 00:10:54.460 --> 00:10:58.299 and it kind of brings everybody down. Everybody suppressed because this isn't going to 118 00:10:58.419 --> 00:11:05.370 end. How, Oh, what is me? Yeah, so, so 119 00:11:05.649 --> 00:11:09.529 I would say grumbling is destructive. It's destructive and we were just talking about 120 00:11:09.529 --> 00:11:13.450 before the podcast. I think it's one of the most famous examples of grumbling 121 00:11:15.450 --> 00:11:24.200 is poor Moses as he's leading the Israelites across the Promised Land and they pretty 122 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:28.679 much right away start grumbling and complaining they're being led to freedom, out of 123 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:37.429 slavery. And I guess what what we would expect is gratitude and joy and 124 00:11:37.750 --> 00:11:41.110 praise, but that's not really what happened at all. Know now, I 125 00:11:41.230 --> 00:11:45.909 was actually reading that in my time with the Lord this morning. In Exodus 126 00:11:46.750 --> 00:11:52.179 and they are of course, God delivers them with miraculous signs. And does 127 00:11:52.220 --> 00:11:58.379 all these things in Egypt really prove that the false gods of Egypt, or 128 00:11:58.460 --> 00:12:01.129 just that false God's brings the children to Israel, out, brings them to 129 00:12:01.169 --> 00:12:05.370 the Red Sea, and then of course the army of Pharaoh is coming, 130 00:12:05.370 --> 00:12:09.250 because Pharaoh's heart's been hardened again and he's going to come and bring the children 131 00:12:09.289 --> 00:12:15.090 of Israel back into Egypt. And you know, one point they're grumbling and 132 00:12:15.169 --> 00:12:20.000 they're complaining and they say it's kind of funny the way that it's worded in 133 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:24.679 the scripture. Are there no graves in Egypt? You know, do you 134 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.279 bring us out here because there were no graves, there was no grave plots, 135 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:30.230 less and need you. That's why you brought us out here to die. 136 00:12:31.029 --> 00:12:33.629 And you know, in a sense it's like, and this is where 137 00:12:33.629 --> 00:12:37.029 we have to check our hearts, when we're complaining about a sick situation, 138 00:12:37.070 --> 00:12:41.669 when we're complaining about a circumstance that we're in, are we complaining against the 139 00:12:41.830 --> 00:12:48.100 Lord? Are we accusing him of not not being wise and not caring about 140 00:12:48.139 --> 00:12:50.659 us? and think about the children of Israel, right. I mean, 141 00:12:50.779 --> 00:12:54.980 of course God cared about them. He heard their cry in Egypt and he 142 00:12:54.100 --> 00:13:01.049 delivered them through these miraculous means. And yet so their accusation is not just 143 00:13:01.289 --> 00:13:05.129 it's not against just Moses, but it's against the Lord himself and the Lord's 144 00:13:05.169 --> 00:13:09.769 deliverance. And you know, I think this can apply to sidewalk ministry, 145 00:13:09.809 --> 00:13:13.559 though I don't think that many of you that are listening, that are doing 146 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.879 sidewalk ministry, have that same mentality as the children of Israel. Did you 147 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:20.000 have an attitude of gratitude toward the Lord and all of that? Yet we 148 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:24.159 can slip into that mentality. It's like we can almost have mentality of God. 149 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:26.000 Did you call me to this ministry just so people can call me names 150 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:31.909 and Malay find me? Did you call me this ministry just so women can 151 00:13:31.029 --> 00:13:35.590 cuss it me as they're going in instead of responding to me positively? And 152 00:13:35.789 --> 00:13:39.909 that really kind of goes back to the podcast we did some months ago about 153 00:13:39.909 --> 00:13:43.580 the motivation for ministry and I encourage you guys, if you haven't, please 154 00:13:43.700 --> 00:13:48.539 listen to that, because that can really, I can really squash a lot 155 00:13:48.580 --> 00:13:52.820 of this stuff if you have a wrong motivation for ministry. Of Your motivation 156 00:13:52.980 --> 00:13:56.570 from ministry is that you're going to be out there and be the savior of 157 00:13:56.649 --> 00:14:00.809 all these babies and these MOMS and all this stuff. You're going to be 158 00:14:00.889 --> 00:14:03.090 sadly disappointed when they're cussing at you. Now God will use you to say 159 00:14:03.169 --> 00:14:07.409 babies. We do believe that. I can just trust that. The Lord's 160 00:14:07.450 --> 00:14:09.960 going to use you for sure, but that can't be our primary motivation. 161 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.320 A primary motivation has to be a love for God. Is What we're doing. 162 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.039 We're doing it in obedience to him. The victory is in obedience and 163 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:22.159 when our motivation is right, then it will guard our heart against grumbling. 164 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.789 But I'll tell you, there's always the potential that we're going to grumble in 165 00:14:26.909 --> 00:14:28.669 complain and I think, as you said, Vicki, there can be a 166 00:14:28.789 --> 00:14:33.909 fine line between us sharing our bird and sharing our concern sharing. I mean 167 00:14:35.509 --> 00:14:39.980 I'm thinking about the police officers. We've got a knucklehead police officer in Charlotte. 168 00:14:39.460 --> 00:14:43.620 That has caused us a lot of problems and seems like he goes out 169 00:14:43.620 --> 00:14:46.419 of his way to cause US issues. Do we need to talk about that 170 00:14:46.460 --> 00:14:48.659 as a group? Yeah, we do. We need to talk about that. 171 00:14:48.820 --> 00:14:52.289 We need to talk about you know, we we've had some fun sometimes 172 00:14:52.370 --> 00:14:58.289 and and just you know, he kind of looks like a cartoon character a 173 00:14:58.370 --> 00:15:01.610 little bit. So if people kind of use that analogy, close to the 174 00:15:01.769 --> 00:15:05.450 line there, though, of are we having I think we're coming close to 175 00:15:05.570 --> 00:15:09.679 the line. Yeah, or are we? Are we making fun of an 176 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:15.000 is that God honoring? So yeah, that was one of the things actually 177 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:18.440 that that a fellow counselor brought up to me, because you very what I 178 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:26.269 thought was good natured was actually mocking someone and and he pointed out that that's 179 00:15:26.350 --> 00:15:28.950 kind of gossip that. Yeah, I love you and respect you, but 180 00:15:30.110 --> 00:15:33.750 have you considered that? So, anyway, sorry, didn't mean to interrupt. 181 00:15:33.990 --> 00:15:37.259 Interrupt you there. I mean I think that and again I think that 182 00:15:37.539 --> 00:15:43.179 fact there goes back to a podcast we did about the body of Christ working 183 00:15:43.220 --> 00:15:48.100 together and about burying one another's burdens in the fact that we need each other. 184 00:15:48.379 --> 00:15:52.049 We need each other to help when we cross over that line, somebody 185 00:15:52.129 --> 00:15:56.169 that's going to call us out and say hey, we getting into the realm 186 00:15:56.250 --> 00:15:58.730 of grumbling and complaining and we're getting into the realm of gossip. Yeah, 187 00:16:00.090 --> 00:16:03.330 and to help us will this thing back, because at the end of the 188 00:16:03.370 --> 00:16:06.039 day, what we want to do is honor Jesus. Right, we want 189 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:10.519 to honor Jesus and what we're doing. Of course we we've got to share 190 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.279 our burdens. We've got a share, and sometimes we can do it in 191 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:15.000 a funny way, we can do it in a way that you know we 192 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:21.590 don't have any malicious intent behind it, because we've got to relate each other 193 00:16:21.750 --> 00:16:25.190 and I think part of the Camaraderie and part of the connection that we have 194 00:16:25.629 --> 00:16:29.309 with each other's they're sort of like these in inside jokes that we can tell 195 00:16:29.309 --> 00:16:33.059 about sidewalk ministry and all that stuff. But it can step over a line 196 00:16:33.100 --> 00:16:36.779 and it can get into where we're just in a negative attitude, we're in 197 00:16:36.860 --> 00:16:41.580 a grumbling and complaining attitude, and so we need to check our hearts before 198 00:16:41.620 --> 00:16:45.539 the Lord and check each other right so that we don't get into this attitude 199 00:16:47.139 --> 00:16:52.210 of grumbling and we're ultimately accusing God by grumbling against him, because at the 200 00:16:52.250 --> 00:16:55.409 end of the day, we believe that he called us to this ministry and 201 00:16:55.649 --> 00:16:59.250 the things that are happening in this ministry, though they're not within his perfect 202 00:16:59.289 --> 00:17:03.039 will, he certainly knew those things are going to happen and those things can 203 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:07.359 serve. Actually, the opposition that we receive from pro abortion people, police 204 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:12.039 or whatever it might be, can be things that God uses to help us 205 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:17.029 grow to be more like Jesus. Again, let's look at the example of 206 00:17:17.109 --> 00:17:21.269 Jesus. Was He maligned? Was He marginalized? Was He spoken against? 207 00:17:21.670 --> 00:17:25.470 The people lie about him? Yes, yes, yes, and yes. 208 00:17:26.470 --> 00:17:29.630 How did he respond? And he certainly did call things what they were. 209 00:17:30.900 --> 00:17:33.980 He called the Pharisees a brood of snakes. You'd know that he did it 210 00:17:34.180 --> 00:17:37.819 not out of malicious intent, but out of speaking the truth and warning the 211 00:17:37.900 --> 00:17:42.660 people about these snakes, these brood of snakes, and also to confront these 212 00:17:42.740 --> 00:17:48.809 Pharisees with their sin and the rebellion against God. So yeah, again there 213 00:17:48.849 --> 00:17:51.890 can be this, this fine line. We do need to guard our hearts, 214 00:17:51.930 --> 00:17:56.289 we do need to make sure that what we're saying, we're like before 215 00:17:56.329 --> 00:17:59.720 the Lord. This this honors the Lord and this doesn't get me into a 216 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:03.359 mindset of one of the brothers here locally says, of stinking thinking. We 217 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.720 don't want to get in that mindset of just stinking thinking right, constantly saturating 218 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.480 our minds and our hearts with grumbling, with complaining, with negative stuff, 219 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:18.029 with these people do this, this person did that. We've got to come 220 00:18:18.109 --> 00:18:21.670 back around to the fact in our minds and our hearts that Jesus Christ is 221 00:18:21.750 --> 00:18:23.789 our Lord, like we talked about in the joy podcast. We belong to 222 00:18:23.910 --> 00:18:29.900 him. He's our Lord. We need to have joy, not just not 223 00:18:30.180 --> 00:18:34.019 grumbling and complaining. Yeah, yeah, thinking about Jesus that you brought up, 224 00:18:34.140 --> 00:18:37.660 that he he calls things like they are and sometimes he can even be 225 00:18:38.500 --> 00:18:42.849 harsh in his choice of words. But I can't recall a single time that 226 00:18:42.970 --> 00:18:48.809 I would characterize him as grumbling, not a single time. I don't recall 227 00:18:48.930 --> 00:18:52.930 any statement like woe is me, you know, look at look at all 228 00:18:53.009 --> 00:18:57.880 that I'm enduring. He just does. He just endures it, and and 229 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:04.559 usually with silence. He usually doesn't speak about what he's suffering at all. 230 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.710 The only thing even close to that might be when he says, father, 231 00:19:10.789 --> 00:19:15.990 if it is your will, take this Cup from me, but that's that's 232 00:19:15.430 --> 00:19:22.150 really more just a plea of anguish, as supposed to you know, a 233 00:19:22.309 --> 00:19:30.019 complaint, but in in terms of some of the legitimate grievances, like when 234 00:19:30.099 --> 00:19:33.740 you brought up the police. And while I do think there's a fine line 235 00:19:33.740 --> 00:19:37.660 when we start to kind of poke fun at then we got to be careful, 236 00:19:37.609 --> 00:19:44.009 yeah, that we're not, you know, edging towards disrespect and and 237 00:19:44.170 --> 00:19:49.569 flat out gossip. But when when we get together and talk about the police 238 00:19:49.849 --> 00:19:55.920 and the things that we feel were unfair, we're actually trying to bring about 239 00:19:55.920 --> 00:20:00.599 a change. It's not just to discuss poor, pitiful loss. It really 240 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.200 is this is not legal, is it? Can someone look up and find 241 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.880 out if this Lee is legal? And oftentimes that you do in that, 242 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:11.829 Daniel, or our what can we do to alleviate this issue, and talking 243 00:20:11.950 --> 00:20:17.789 to lawyers and finding out what our rights are and how we confide it. 244 00:20:18.230 --> 00:20:22.980 And I think that that is very different from grumbling. That's trying to take 245 00:20:22.059 --> 00:20:29.619 action to right or wrong, and true grumbling, I don't think is. 246 00:20:30.180 --> 00:20:34.259 I think it's just feeling sorry for yourself and complaining about something that, honestly, 247 00:20:34.380 --> 00:20:38.170 you probably have no control over. But some of the things we do 248 00:20:38.329 --> 00:20:45.130 have control over that are not grumbling in terms of against sidewalk ministry. If 249 00:20:45.569 --> 00:20:52.079 we see abusive or aggressive behavior by the pro abortion crowd or by patients or 250 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:57.839 clients or workers, we definitely need to address that and we should tell each 251 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:02.880 other, we should film it, we and we should seek counsel regarding that, 252 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:07.109 because that can be dangerous and again, it's something that we can take 253 00:21:07.230 --> 00:21:14.549 action against. If we see concerns of sex trafficking or domestic abuse in the 254 00:21:14.710 --> 00:21:18.940 clients coming into the abortion center, you know we need to talk with each 255 00:21:18.980 --> 00:21:23.099 other about that and maybe call the police and and discussed with each other what 256 00:21:23.259 --> 00:21:29.140 do we do in this situation? Some sometimes there's situations we don't know what 257 00:21:29.420 --> 00:21:33.130 to do and we have to talk to each other to try and figure it 258 00:21:33.250 --> 00:21:41.289 out. So that's different and that is not at all what what we're talking 259 00:21:41.329 --> 00:21:49.480 about. I also have found that the more I grumble, besides getting discouraged, 260 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:56.160 the more negatively I feel about that person I'm grumbling against. It feeds 261 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:03.910 into a negative, destructive, hateful attitude towards others and again that that that's 262 00:22:03.950 --> 00:22:11.549 not good. Yeah, so, but the next section that I have in 263 00:22:11.670 --> 00:22:15.700 our article, which you kind of already talked about, is what's the solution, 264 00:22:15.779 --> 00:22:21.220 and I want to tell you a story that that actually happened this week 265 00:22:21.819 --> 00:22:25.859 out on the sidewalk, which maybe that there were two things that really sparked 266 00:22:26.099 --> 00:22:30.529 this are article. This was one of the things. There was a very 267 00:22:30.970 --> 00:22:36.250 difficult group of pro abortion people. I think there was something like fifteen of 268 00:22:36.329 --> 00:22:40.970 them. They always have number our team, and they were inches of our 269 00:22:41.170 --> 00:22:47.720 face, screaming at us, taunting us, threatening us. They were blowing 270 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:52.480 whistles in our ears, all kinds of other musical instruments right in our ears, 271 00:22:53.039 --> 00:23:00.910 which was painful, and we were all feeling just weary at the end 272 00:23:00.950 --> 00:23:06.109 of the of three hours of that. We were worn out and we we 273 00:23:06.309 --> 00:23:10.710 struggled to it. I think every one of us was thinking, did anyone 274 00:23:10.950 --> 00:23:17.740 hear anything of value that we called out, because the noise and the persecution 275 00:23:17.900 --> 00:23:22.619 was so strong that day. And one of them, that was the worst 276 00:23:22.779 --> 00:23:29.569 one of them, was just video taping everything we were doing and getting in 277 00:23:29.650 --> 00:23:33.930 our face and again mocking us. And it was time for us all to 278 00:23:33.009 --> 00:23:37.369 go home. The time had ended and I said, I said should we 279 00:23:37.529 --> 00:23:42.200 pray? And we knew yes, indeed we should pray and I volunteered to 280 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:48.440 be the one to pray. And as soon as this worst of the offenders 281 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:52.039 of the pro abortion crowd heard that we were going to pray, said, 282 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:53.559 Oh, can I pray with you? Can I pray with you, very 283 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:59.589 mocking. So I did wrestle for a moment thinking should I have said sure, 284 00:23:59.829 --> 00:24:06.190 but I didn't. I just ignored her and I started praying and and 285 00:24:06.390 --> 00:24:11.980 because I think I needed God and I knew my team needed God so desperately 286 00:24:11.019 --> 00:24:17.460 at that moment I was really, really into that prayer. I was so 287 00:24:18.220 --> 00:24:22.019 focused on God. Sometimes it isn't always like that, but it was that 288 00:24:22.220 --> 00:24:27.289 time and just really tapping in to the holy spirit and really feeling that I 289 00:24:27.490 --> 00:24:34.329 was in direct communion with with God as I'm praying and she was saying things 290 00:24:34.410 --> 00:24:41.400 and trying to distract and I just was totally into my prayer, which, 291 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.000 by the way, is out loud for the group before we disperse. And 292 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.279 then she started singing and I knew she was singing, but I was not 293 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:56.269 conscious, at least conscious at all of the words of what she was singing. 294 00:24:56.349 --> 00:25:00.630 And continued the prayer and somewhere through the middle of the prayer. She 295 00:25:00.910 --> 00:25:04.190 I knew she had left, at least I no longer registered that she was 296 00:25:04.309 --> 00:25:08.900 there in the prayer ended and and we all dispersed, went home and it 297 00:25:08.980 --> 00:25:15.740 was later reading the team leads report of the day and she mentioned that prayer 298 00:25:17.339 --> 00:25:22.970 and mentioned that during that prayer this pro abortion person was singing hail Satan, 299 00:25:22.890 --> 00:25:29.089 and at that everybody else was aware of it. Now I had no idea. 300 00:25:29.130 --> 00:25:33.769 I had no idea. All I felt was peace and joy and comfort 301 00:25:33.049 --> 00:25:41.160 in this prayer and to me that spoke very specifically about our greatest anetote to 302 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:49.549 to grumbling is to keep our our heart and mind so focused on God that 303 00:25:49.990 --> 00:25:56.710 nothing else enters and it is as though you're looking right through all those people 304 00:25:56.950 --> 00:26:02.309 trying to discourage you, that you no longer see your hear them because you're 305 00:26:02.349 --> 00:26:06.940 so focused on what God has called you to do and on his presence and 306 00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:12.180 his holy spirit guiding and enabling you to do that. Yeah, I mean 307 00:26:12.259 --> 00:26:17.819 it comes back to where our focus is. It comes back to what our 308 00:26:17.900 --> 00:26:22.369 motivation is. We're not out there too we're not out there just to say 309 00:26:22.450 --> 00:26:26.250 babies, we're not out there just to be heard. We're out there to 310 00:26:26.369 --> 00:26:30.730 obey God and if it comes to where our voices are being drowned out by 311 00:26:30.809 --> 00:26:36.079 pro abortion people or whatever, you know, opposition comes against us, we're 312 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:40.839 not out there for them. We're not out there to feel good about ourselves 313 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:45.400 or out there to glorify Jesus. Yeah, and we've got to keep our 314 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:52.509 focus on him. I know whenever thoughts and bad attitudes come kind of across 315 00:26:52.549 --> 00:26:55.670 our radar, of course one of the ways that can bat that is to 316 00:26:55.750 --> 00:26:59.349 pray. Yeah, when you're out there on the sidewalk and there's there's this 317 00:26:59.549 --> 00:27:03.299 ability and I think this this subject grumbling ties into the subject of discouragement and 318 00:27:03.420 --> 00:27:07.460 dealing with discouragement, which we did do a podcast about long time ago, 319 00:27:10.740 --> 00:27:14.700 is bringing our petition to the Lord. That's one of the keys to overcoming 320 00:27:14.779 --> 00:27:18.809 discouragement, overcoming not getting into because discouragement can lead into grumbling. That's kind 321 00:27:18.809 --> 00:27:22.930 of the progression of things. You get discourage, you start grumbling, you 322 00:27:22.970 --> 00:27:26.809 start complaining, then you start accusing God and then you start even question in 323 00:27:26.849 --> 00:27:32.039 your calling and all that stuff. Before he gets to there. We need 324 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:33.640 to do, if you look at the psalms, we need to do what 325 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.559 David did in the psalms where he's bringing his can, his petition, and 326 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.440 it seems like in some of the psalms like he's complaining to the Lord, 327 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:45.789 like, God, where are you in this situation? Like we can be 328 00:27:45.950 --> 00:27:51.430 honest before the Lord, but we need to come back around like David does 329 00:27:51.950 --> 00:27:55.990 to your God, you're the Lord over it all. I belong to you. 330 00:27:56.029 --> 00:28:00.819 You're not beholding to me and you know, I think checking our attitude 331 00:28:00.900 --> 00:28:03.980 between us and the Lord is it very important then, of course, the 332 00:28:04.019 --> 00:28:07.380 dynamic of other folks helping us to check our attitude. Yeah, so that 333 00:28:07.460 --> 00:28:11.099 we're not getting this whole round of just being a grant. Yeah. Yeah, 334 00:28:12.170 --> 00:28:22.289 act sixteen is a great example of not grumbling but doing replacing that with 335 00:28:23.170 --> 00:28:26.400 turning our thoughts. Are Folk us in our heart on the Lord, and 336 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:33.359 I actually I think I copied you probably all know that it's such a great 337 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.119 story in the book of acts, but I'll read or do you want to 338 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:42.470 read that? In in acts like sixteen, it's the full story, is 339 00:28:44.990 --> 00:28:48.789 well, it goes through the whole chapter of acts, but the crux of 340 00:28:48.869 --> 00:28:53.349 it is in verses twenty two, two to thirty. Yeah, yeah, 341 00:28:53.470 --> 00:28:57.619 so to kind of condens it just a little bit and you guys probably again 342 00:28:57.700 --> 00:29:03.940 we'll know the story where Paul and Silas were thrown into prison because Paul cast 343 00:29:03.019 --> 00:29:06.579 a demon out of this girl who was possessed by a demon. Right. 344 00:29:07.460 --> 00:29:10.970 And they're there in prison now, and we've talked about this passage, I 345 00:29:11.009 --> 00:29:12.890 think, before as well, or at least we've talked about acts chapter four, 346 00:29:12.970 --> 00:29:17.769 when Peter and John were thrown into prison for preaching the name of Jesus. 347 00:29:17.809 --> 00:29:21.769 This is a similar scenario where Paul and Silas were thrown into prison for 348 00:29:21.890 --> 00:29:26.880 casting out the demon proclaiming the name of Jesus. Anyway, they're there in 349 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.319 a not so nice scenario. Who Mean? We think about jail, we 350 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.160 think about prison in this day and age. You didn't have TV's, you 351 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.519 didn't have a library. There you're in a nasty, filthy place, probably 352 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.710 rats and all this, which they didn't belong to. They did they they 353 00:29:41.750 --> 00:29:45.470 didn't deserve to be in it. Would they were false charged, false accusations 354 00:29:45.509 --> 00:29:48.470 and they thrown in prison. They had every right to grumble, if someone 355 00:29:48.549 --> 00:29:51.549 has a right to grumble, right, yeah, right, yeah, they 356 00:29:51.670 --> 00:29:53.980 certainly would have. But order they begin to do they began to worship, 357 00:29:55.660 --> 00:30:00.819 they began to sing. Yeah, singing praise to the Lord in the midst 358 00:30:00.819 --> 00:30:03.940 of that filthy, rotten place that they didn't deserve to be in. And 359 00:30:04.019 --> 00:30:07.769 the Bible says that the place that they were was shaking. The prison house 360 00:30:07.849 --> 00:30:12.650 was shaken and immediately all the doors were open and everyone's chains were unfastened. 361 00:30:12.650 --> 00:30:15.930 So they were released. They were praising God, they were singing hymns of 362 00:30:17.009 --> 00:30:21.049 praise, the Bible says, to God, and the prisoners were hearing this 363 00:30:21.130 --> 00:30:23.359 stuff. So that's a testimony. When we praise the Lord in the midst 364 00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.720 of persecution, in the midst of opposition, and we can worship and we 365 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.640 can praise the Lord, it's a witness to those around us, for sure, 366 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:37.390 and in this situation it calls an earthquake from the Lord that shook the 367 00:30:37.430 --> 00:30:41.589 foundations of the prison and release their chains, not just their chains, but 368 00:30:41.670 --> 00:30:44.150 other people's chains. And there's listen. This will preach, let me tell 369 00:30:44.150 --> 00:30:48.109 you, because you praising God in the midst of opposition rather than grumbling and 370 00:30:48.309 --> 00:30:52.980 complaining, can also bring freedom to other people. Right it can help other 371 00:30:53.019 --> 00:30:57.220 people get free, and this is applicable to on the sidewalk. Whenever you 372 00:30:57.420 --> 00:31:02.660 decide in the midst of opposition, to be thankful, to have gratitude toward 373 00:31:02.740 --> 00:31:06.930 God, to going back to that acts chapter for or I think it's it's 374 00:31:06.930 --> 00:31:11.890 later on in acts chapter six, I believe, when Peter and the apostles, 375 00:31:11.930 --> 00:31:14.609 I think it was Peter and John Again, were beaten for the name 376 00:31:14.650 --> 00:31:18.490 of Jesus and they left rejoicing that they had been found worthy to suffer for 377 00:31:18.569 --> 00:31:22.240 his namesake. So if we can take that kind of attitude, man, 378 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:27.240 that is contagious and in this situation, the analogy would be the not only 379 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.799 were their chains released, but the chains of everyone else. Yeah, that 380 00:31:32.950 --> 00:31:36.509 was there people who weren't worshiping and praising God, but people who are overhearing 381 00:31:36.549 --> 00:31:38.710 this thing. So you this can bring freedom to other people in the sidewalk 382 00:31:38.829 --> 00:31:42.190 is you're worshiping and praising God in the midst of persecution, your other sidewalk 383 00:31:42.269 --> 00:31:47.579 counselors, people who are probably filling the same temptation to grumble into be like 384 00:31:47.779 --> 00:31:52.220 why are we even here? Whatever can actually that fire can actually spread to 385 00:31:52.259 --> 00:31:56.900 them. It can also spread. As you were speaking, I realized what 386 00:31:56.019 --> 00:32:02.009 an incredible example and picture that is. When we do that, when we 387 00:32:02.210 --> 00:32:07.769 turn the persecution and prays to the MOMS themselves, because what we are asking 388 00:32:07.890 --> 00:32:10.930 of them oftentimes, I'll directly say this, don't put your eyes on your 389 00:32:10.970 --> 00:32:15.759 struggles, don't put your eyes on your circumstances. Put Your eyes on Jesus. 390 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.839 Don't give into the to your fears and your struggles in your troubles, 391 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.680 but keep bringing your eyes back to the Lord. And that is what that's 392 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.839 what we're asking them to do, and they see that, if they see 393 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:34.109 us doing that in the midst of the persecution that we are receiving, not 394 00:32:34.309 --> 00:32:38.390 on the side bucket. That is a powerful statement, a powerful word. 395 00:32:38.509 --> 00:32:44.339 Picture will not word, picture, powerful visual of what we're telling them. 396 00:32:45.099 --> 00:32:50.180 And if, instead, what they see is as grumbling, fighting, returning 397 00:32:50.660 --> 00:32:55.819 the Machrian and the insults, with further in salt, smocking or whatever from 398 00:32:57.019 --> 00:33:04.890 us, all we've shown them is just go and do whatever you want and 399 00:33:05.049 --> 00:33:08.130 ignore what God has has called you to do, because that's basically what we're 400 00:33:08.210 --> 00:33:13.519 doing. We are not called to credible or to persecute. Those who persecute 401 00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.799 us. Know we're called a magnified Jesus, and that's what they were doing 402 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:22.000 ultimately, and you guys know the story this, this jailer who was going 403 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.160 to take his own life because if a prisoner got loose, his life was 404 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.910 going to be taken anyway. Right, he's responsible for them staying in prison. 405 00:33:30.750 --> 00:33:34.430 Ultimately, Paul says don't harm yourself, leads him to the Lord, 406 00:33:34.470 --> 00:33:39.150 baptizes him and his whole family. So this attitude, in the midst of 407 00:33:39.269 --> 00:33:45.180 persecution and opposition, of praise and Thanksgiving to the Lord, rather than grumbling, 408 00:33:45.180 --> 00:33:46.859 rather than saying all, we're in this filthy prison, we don't deserve 409 00:33:46.980 --> 00:33:50.700 to be here. God, weren't you protecting us? Weren't you watching out 410 00:33:50.700 --> 00:33:53.460 for us? Like what's going on here? Lord? Instead of that attitude, 411 00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:58.569 they praise God, prison doors are open, people are set free. 412 00:33:58.690 --> 00:34:02.930 This guy comes into the Lord and sole family. So this is like really 413 00:34:02.970 --> 00:34:08.369 a strong motivation for us to have an attitude of worship and praise to the 414 00:34:08.449 --> 00:34:14.239 Lord, and an attitude of worship and praise can combat an attitude of grumbling 415 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:19.960 and complaining. So we have to make this, this this conscious, volitional 416 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:28.030 decision, because when we are experiencing wish back and we are experiencing persecution or 417 00:34:28.070 --> 00:34:30.150 whatever it might be, there is always going to be that temptation to grumble, 418 00:34:30.230 --> 00:34:35.230 complain, to make it about us. We have to make that conscious 419 00:34:35.230 --> 00:34:38.820 decision to say, Nope, I'm going to I'm going to shun those feelings 420 00:34:39.500 --> 00:34:44.139 and I'm going to embrace an attitude of worship and praise. And sometimes we 421 00:34:44.260 --> 00:34:46.460 have to do it even if we don't feel it right. And sometimes it 422 00:34:46.659 --> 00:34:51.619 means you getting out your smartphone, even out there on the sidewalk, and 423 00:34:52.059 --> 00:34:54.650 pulling up a song on Youtube of worship and just begin to worship Jesus, 424 00:34:55.130 --> 00:34:59.929 just begin to pray. Sometimes it maybe it's let's gather the whole group together, 425 00:34:59.929 --> 00:35:01.170 the whole sidewalk team in together, and let's just pray. Let's just 426 00:35:01.210 --> 00:35:06.210 have a time of prayer before the Lord. Let's give the situation to God. 427 00:35:06.329 --> 00:35:10.719 We have to make conscious decisions to to not grumble but to magnify Jesus, 428 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.519 to worship him and to thank him. And we can even do what 429 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:17.880 they did here, thank him, praise him, even the midst of prison, 430 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.670 or like the apostles there in the early part of acts, where they 431 00:35:22.789 --> 00:35:25.869 praise him that they were accounted worthy to suffer for his namesake. Yeah, 432 00:35:27.030 --> 00:35:30.269 yeah, and so and and we can use each other to help bring about 433 00:35:30.630 --> 00:35:35.739 that transformation and how we're thinking about trials and persecution. And so I've got 434 00:35:35.780 --> 00:35:37.460 to tell you another story. And the second thing. I told you there 435 00:35:37.500 --> 00:35:40.940 were two things that sparked this article. The one was when it happened to 436 00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:47.579 me and out on that sidewalk. The second was I was meeting for a 437 00:35:47.699 --> 00:35:54.730 podcast with Daniel and he said how is your day and I I I think, 438 00:35:54.969 --> 00:36:00.050 grumbled and said it was really rough and and told them you would not 439 00:36:00.170 --> 00:36:07.199 have believed the pro abortion group today and I was describing what we had endured 440 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:15.840 and and his response to me, your response was I'm glad you got to 441 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:21.110 have that experience. And I remember, I still remember those works and I'm 442 00:36:21.190 --> 00:36:23.909 like it just took totally took the wind out of my sales. I'm like 443 00:36:24.630 --> 00:36:34.780 what Boa and I realized immediately you were right and I said, I think 444 00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:37.099 I said it with a little bit of tongue in cheek, but I said 445 00:36:38.139 --> 00:36:46.210 you're right. I counted a privilege that today I was able to suffer for 446 00:36:46.809 --> 00:36:52.449 Jesus. But what became just in honestly tongue and cheek at the moment, 447 00:36:53.210 --> 00:37:00.210 became my reality. I realize it changed me. That changed me I just 448 00:37:00.409 --> 00:37:04.320 thought it was so unexpected. I thought you're using such a nice guy, 449 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.960 Daniel. I thought you, I thought you would start telling me, you 450 00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:14.400 know. Oh, poor Vicky, I'm so sorry. That must have been 451 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.909 really rough. But but your response was the perfect response, because what it 452 00:37:17.989 --> 00:37:24.630 did was snapped me out of an attitude of grumbling and complaining into an attitude 453 00:37:24.750 --> 00:37:30.820 of you know, it is. Got Surprised by that persecution. Does God 454 00:37:30.900 --> 00:37:35.099 not know about that? Did he think I was worth you know, did 455 00:37:35.139 --> 00:37:37.300 he want me to suffer? You know? No, God has a purpose 456 00:37:37.420 --> 00:37:43.380 and a plan. And when we remember that, that includes I mean we 457 00:37:43.460 --> 00:37:46.969 are in a fallen world, but he could remove us at any moment from 458 00:37:47.010 --> 00:37:52.849 that persecution. He could remove the persecutors at any moment. Yeah, but 459 00:37:52.010 --> 00:37:58.289 he doesn't. And if he doesn't, there is something greater going on. 460 00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:04.239 And and I do think a lot of it probably has to do with are 461 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:09.039 we going to trust him no matter what? And and the no matter what, 462 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:15.030 if you're in sidewalk ministry, that is going to include opposition. And 463 00:38:15.230 --> 00:38:20.030 just no matter what, be prepared to praise and follow and keep your focus 464 00:38:20.150 --> 00:38:24.510 on God. And I will say another thing is grumbling is a huge time 465 00:38:24.630 --> 00:38:29.219 drain on all of us. I was training someone yesterday and I don't think 466 00:38:29.260 --> 00:38:34.579 she was truly grumbling. I think she was just overwhelmed, overwhelmed by what 467 00:38:34.739 --> 00:38:37.699 she was seeing. She had never seen the opposition like that. But so 468 00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:44.329 much of the time was spent saying, yeah, that's who they are, 469 00:38:44.969 --> 00:38:49.409 that's what they are. Can we get back to who we are and what 470 00:38:49.530 --> 00:38:53.369 we're called to be doing? Yeah, yeah, I think we have to 471 00:38:53.409 --> 00:39:00.599 remember that God doesn't have a vested interest in keeping US comfortable. Right. 472 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:07.119 God has a vested interest in making us more like his son Jesus, and 473 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:13.389 he will use things like persecution and he will use opposition and he will use 474 00:39:13.550 --> 00:39:17.389 false accusations and all those things, because all those things were experienced by Jesus. 475 00:39:19.349 --> 00:39:21.989 God will use those things to grow us to be more like Jesus. 476 00:39:22.750 --> 00:39:28.980 The question is, will we? Will we respond appropriately? And going back 477 00:39:29.099 --> 00:39:31.059 to the example, and if you want to look at examples of what grumbling 478 00:39:31.139 --> 00:39:37.059 and complaining will do and how it will shipwreck your walk with God and your 479 00:39:37.139 --> 00:39:40.170 entrance into the Promised Land and to the rest of God, look no further 480 00:39:40.329 --> 00:39:44.449 than the book of Exodus. As the children of Israel or brought through the 481 00:39:44.489 --> 00:39:46.530 Wilderness and they're brought, and even at the very beginning to the Red Sea. 482 00:39:46.849 --> 00:39:52.090 I mean they're grumbling actually even before that, whenever Moses initially he is 483 00:39:52.130 --> 00:39:58.280 coming to deliver them and Pharaoh puts the task on them to make bricks without 484 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.719 Straw. You're going to get your own Straw. And you know that they 485 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.880 were grumbling. And they're at the Red Sea right and got it already. 486 00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.949 showed them his power, and yet they're grumbling against God there all the all 487 00:40:08.989 --> 00:40:13.269 through the Wilderness. So you know when they grumbling complain because they don't have 488 00:40:13.349 --> 00:40:17.070 meet God, gives him quail up to their eyeballs and they grumbled complain about 489 00:40:17.070 --> 00:40:21.500 that. It's every every area and everything that God does, they grumble and 490 00:40:21.539 --> 00:40:24.780 they complain. But you will see that there were at least two men, 491 00:40:27.500 --> 00:40:30.380 Jonathan, or, I'm sorry, Joshua and Caleb, who didn't grumbling complain 492 00:40:30.460 --> 00:40:35.260 against God, and they entered into the promised land. They made a conscious 493 00:40:35.260 --> 00:40:37.769 decision to look at what God had done, the good things the Lord had 494 00:40:37.849 --> 00:40:42.449 done for them, and that fueled the fire in their hearts to believe that 495 00:40:42.610 --> 00:40:45.730 this God is good. We're not going to grumble complain. The stuff that 496 00:40:45.809 --> 00:40:50.960 happens to us. It's not God's fault. And even if it was God's 497 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.320 fault, he's still good. He puts breath in our lungs and we're going 498 00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.440 to worship and we're going to praise him. And those men entered the Promised 499 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:00.800 Land Right. Those who did not, those who grumble, those who died 500 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.030 in the wilderness, where those who grumbled and complained. And this is a 501 00:41:05.110 --> 00:41:09.590 conscious decision and there may be for you guys that are listening, a time 502 00:41:09.750 --> 00:41:15.590 that you just need to, after this podcast, repent before God and just 503 00:41:15.710 --> 00:41:17.510 tell God you're sorry. And it may not have anything to do a cybwalk 504 00:41:17.579 --> 00:41:21.380 ministry. It might have to do with your family. You might have been 505 00:41:21.420 --> 00:41:25.420 grumbling and complained against God because your kids are doing this or that your husband's 506 00:41:25.500 --> 00:41:30.460 doing this or that your wife is doing this or that your financial situation is 507 00:41:30.539 --> 00:41:32.889 like this or like that, and you've just had an attitude of grumbling and 508 00:41:34.010 --> 00:41:37.050 complaining and ultimately, if you're honest, you're grumbling, you're complaining, is 509 00:41:37.130 --> 00:41:40.730 not just against your circumstances, against your family member, but it's against God 510 00:41:42.610 --> 00:41:46.400 and you need to repent and just say God, I'm sorry. If of 511 00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:52.400 accusing you, I'm sorry, of a bad attitude. In God answers. 512 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.159 When we repent, listen, God comes in, he brings forgiveness, he 513 00:41:55.280 --> 00:42:01.309 washes, he cleanses and he can give you a good attitude. He can 514 00:42:01.510 --> 00:42:07.190 give you a different perspective where you can see that maybe the Lord was using 515 00:42:07.269 --> 00:42:10.550 that stuff to make you more like Jesus and you didn't respond appropriately. Soho 516 00:42:10.550 --> 00:42:15.780 ask God for grace to respond appropriately in the future and he'll give you grace 517 00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:17.619 to do it. Man, it really has to do with our attitude. 518 00:42:17.659 --> 00:42:22.099 It really has to do with our response to the Lord and when we respond 519 00:42:22.179 --> 00:42:25.099 we're not always. No one is going to respond a hundred percent appropriately every 520 00:42:25.179 --> 00:42:29.820 time. When we don't, we just repent and ask God for grace to 521 00:42:29.900 --> 00:42:31.329 do right in the future, and who give us grace to do it. 522 00:42:31.530 --> 00:42:37.250 Yeah, so hope this was an encouragement to you guys and a challenge to 523 00:42:37.289 --> 00:42:40.809 you guys. We don't want to discourage you, want to encourage you, 524 00:42:42.010 --> 00:42:44.920 just like my response to Vicky. I'm glad you got to experience that. 525 00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:52.960 I know Vicky could handle that and maybe people that are brand news. If 526 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:57.920 your leaders, if you're a leader, maybe that's not always the appropriate response. 527 00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:00.909 You probably want to if you do respond that way when they're sharing their 528 00:43:01.030 --> 00:43:05.469 grumbling and complaining, that you might want to spell it out a little more 529 00:43:05.550 --> 00:43:08.510 and identify with her with their pain a little more. We certainly want to 530 00:43:08.510 --> 00:43:14.340 do that with each other. Point them towards Jesus always right. That's what 531 00:43:14.460 --> 00:43:16.900 we need to do. But I knew again. I knew, Vicky, 532 00:43:17.019 --> 00:43:21.739 you can handle it and you need to be spurred on encourage in that way. 533 00:43:21.900 --> 00:43:25.619 It's sparked any podcast, in my opinion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 534 00:43:25.619 --> 00:43:29.809 and at least drew you closer to the Lord and drew drew me closer 535 00:43:29.849 --> 00:43:34.210 to the Lord. Just reading through this and covering the subject is really encouraging, 536 00:43:35.369 --> 00:43:37.889 and so, anyway, with that, I think we'll wrap this thing 537 00:43:37.969 --> 00:43:42.960 up. We appreciate you, guys, listening and please reach out to me, 538 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.440 Daniel Love Life Dot Org. Reach out to Vicky, Vicky at Love 539 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:51.039 Life Dot Org. It maybe you've got some struggles and things we would certainly 540 00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.760 love to pray for you and pray with you about those things. Maybe you've 541 00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:59.150 got questions that we can answer. Will do our best answer whatever questions that 542 00:43:59.269 --> 00:44:05.030 come our way about sidewalk ministry and so with that we'll talk to you guys 543 00:44:05.030 --> 00:44:13.099 later. God bless God, bless you all. Give me our love for 544 00:44:13.340 --> 00:44:24.530 love. Give me our love for gratitude. I know it will cost me 545 00:44:24.730 --> 00:44:32.449 my love. Nothing's too precious, and some that you