God Used Coronavirus To Help Her Choose Life (Interview With A Mom Who Chose Life)

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:03.399 Hey, guys, welcome to the Gospel Center prayer life podcast. We have 2 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:08.789 a special treat today for you. We just did just a couple of days 3 00:00:08.830 --> 00:00:13.310 ago and interview with a young lady Ebony, who had chosen life and gotten 4 00:00:13.310 --> 00:00:19.149 connected with Vicki. It's just a probably one of the most candid interviews and 5 00:00:19.949 --> 00:00:23.899 just conversations with the woman that was going for an abortion changed her mind that 6 00:00:23.940 --> 00:00:28.179 I've ever I've ever been a part of really just so honest and sincere and 7 00:00:28.420 --> 00:00:33.619 open it was and it was such a blessing and to hear her story truly 8 00:00:34.140 --> 00:00:38.689 I when she told it to me the first time, I was literally crying. 9 00:00:38.770 --> 00:00:42.090 Yeah, yeah, there's a lot going on, you know, obviously 10 00:00:42.130 --> 00:00:45.049 in our country, for this coronavirus thing and all that. And actually, 11 00:00:45.570 --> 00:00:51.119 you know, this story actually has coronavirus thrown in there. Yeah, this, 12 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:53.479 yeah, and that's a matter of fact. As you guys listen, 13 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:58.079 you're going to hear how coronavirus in one sense, helped to save a baby's 14 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.799 lot. It did. It did and in fact I had just come off 15 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.920 of a rough day here and I can't remember what was going on, but 16 00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:08.150 it had to do with the coronavirus and then then contacted her and spoke with 17 00:01:08.310 --> 00:01:14.510 her her and she said basically, it was the coronavirus that ultimately, in 18 00:01:14.670 --> 00:01:18.230 the first place, saved her baby. Yeah, and draw drew her out 19 00:01:18.230 --> 00:01:21.540 of that abortion center. Yeah. Well, so, guys, with that 20 00:01:21.939 --> 00:01:25.180 any further ado, we're going to let you, guys, listen on this 21 00:01:25.260 --> 00:01:30.180 conversation that we had with Ebony and hope you're blessed as you listen. I 22 00:01:30.420 --> 00:01:36.049 Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me Lord. 23 00:01:36.530 --> 00:01:41.489 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and 24 00:01:41.769 --> 00:01:47.359 me Lord. I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, 25 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:55.879 s and me Lord. Send Me, Lord. I felt show passish, 26 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:05.870 touch your heart. Use Me, Lord. Well, welcome to the Gospel 27 00:02:05.909 --> 00:02:09.830 Center prolife podcast. We have today a special guest with us. We shared 28 00:02:10.949 --> 00:02:14.870 some months ago we had a podcast with a young lady by the name of 29 00:02:14.909 --> 00:02:17.580 Jamie who chose life, and that was an awesome podcast. We got a 30 00:02:17.620 --> 00:02:21.699 lot of good feedback on that and a lot of people were encouraged. Well, 31 00:02:21.740 --> 00:02:23.819 now we have with us today Ebony. Can you say, Hey, 32 00:02:23.900 --> 00:02:29.500 Ebony, hey, how we are good. We're good. Our audios a 33 00:02:29.580 --> 00:02:32.889 little little less good than it than it normally is because we're we've got ebony 34 00:02:34.050 --> 00:02:38.409 on Skype, so we hope grown a virus and and the coronavirus thing going 35 00:02:38.449 --> 00:02:42.129 on, it's got us having to do this. That's the way that it 36 00:02:42.330 --> 00:02:46.039 is, but we do appreciate you coming on Ebony and being willing to share 37 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:50.800 your story. So, yeah, just getting getting into your story. And 38 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:54.680 you know, we encountered you, or Vickie encountered you and and you were 39 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:58.990 connect with her. Can you share a little bit about how you got connected 40 00:02:59.750 --> 00:03:06.469 with Vicky? Yes, sure, so, my brother lives in Charlotte. 41 00:03:06.469 --> 00:03:10.629 I live in South Carolina, and I reached out to him. I was 42 00:03:12.069 --> 00:03:15.500 kind of like a cry for help. He's he was a minister one time 43 00:03:16.500 --> 00:03:23.020 in New York, an ordained minister. But any who, he reached out 44 00:03:23.219 --> 00:03:31.330 to Vicky's organization and Vicky reached out to me. Okay, yeah, yeah, 45 00:03:32.129 --> 00:03:38.449 we've connected ever since and I'm thankful. I am telling someone yesterday how 46 00:03:38.530 --> 00:03:43.680 God just dropped all these great people into my life. I just to kind 47 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:50.520 of let me know you know that this is on purpose. This, yeah, 48 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:54.750 baby's not a not an accident. Yeah, yeah, well, so 49 00:03:54.870 --> 00:03:58.590 we know you know, just from a little bit I've read, and Vicki's 50 00:03:58.590 --> 00:04:01.110 share with me your story, that there was a time in your life not 51 00:04:01.389 --> 00:04:06.150 too long ago, that you were considering abortion where you didn't feel so much 52 00:04:06.229 --> 00:04:10.460 like this baby was a was a blessing, but maybe a little bit of 53 00:04:10.539 --> 00:04:14.699 a burden, and you considered abortion. Can you share a little bit about 54 00:04:14.699 --> 00:04:16.259 what was going on in your life, what was going on your heart, 55 00:04:16.300 --> 00:04:23.420 in your mind at that time? Yeah, so when I I was with 56 00:04:24.329 --> 00:04:30.689 a the father of the baby, we would gather for eight years, almost 57 00:04:30.730 --> 00:04:40.800 nine years, and when I got pregnant, I wasn't ecstatic about being pregnant 58 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:46.120 but, you know, I wasn't necessarily considering abortion. Yeah, I did. 59 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:54.069 It did cross my mind a Tom and in my early stages and then 60 00:04:54.110 --> 00:04:59.589 I kind of, you know, let that go. Well, four days 61 00:04:59.790 --> 00:05:04.750 before we were supposed to get married, he he came to me and told 62 00:05:04.750 --> 00:05:11.339 me that he had some news for me and that he did not wanted to 63 00:05:11.420 --> 00:05:15.819 affect our marriage. He still wanted to go forward with our marriage and he 64 00:05:15.980 --> 00:05:19.220 told me that he slept with his he has two daughters, a thirteen year 65 00:05:19.220 --> 00:05:23.449 old in a fifteen year old. He told me that he slept with their 66 00:05:23.569 --> 00:05:26.649 mom and she was two and a half months pregnant. He slept with her 67 00:05:26.689 --> 00:05:35.199 and Christmas and I was devastated. I was heartbroken. I felt like I 68 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:39.040 just all I could think was that I did not want this baby. I, 69 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:43.399 you know, I didn't want the attachment, I didn't want to have 70 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:46.920 to do it on my own. You know, I didn't really I wasn't 71 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.269 really ecstatic about it in the first place. I didn't look at it as 72 00:05:50.350 --> 00:05:56.430 a blessing at forty two, you know, and I'm not married. I 73 00:05:56.709 --> 00:06:02.389 looked at it like, you know, I've been sexually sinning and now this 74 00:06:02.629 --> 00:06:10.420 is a more like a punishment instead of a blessing. Yeah, so like 75 00:06:10.500 --> 00:06:13.819 a lot of folks, a lot of folks listening can identify, you know, 76 00:06:13.819 --> 00:06:16.300 a lot of the ladies that we we ministered to over the years could 77 00:06:16.300 --> 00:06:21.970 identify with that sort of sense of betrayal and even, I guess, abandonment, 78 00:06:23.009 --> 00:06:25.649 which can be, you know, if a fearful place to be in, 79 00:06:25.889 --> 00:06:29.649 also kind of a an angry place to be. Him Too, was 80 00:06:29.730 --> 00:06:32.360 there some of that going on, just like almost like just angry at him 81 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:36.279 and and just man, I can't be with this guy. Yeah, I 82 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:41.439 was angry. I was angry at him, I was angry at myself, 83 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:46.680 you know, as I told Vicki yeah, I was. I was I 84 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.069 was angry at myself or allow myself to get in this position. But I 85 00:06:49.310 --> 00:06:57.670 was angry at him and I wanted him to hurt. So I just, 86 00:06:58.269 --> 00:07:01.500 I just I'm going to have baby. Yeah, you know, had this 87 00:07:01.579 --> 00:07:06.779 attachment and I ended up scheduling and abortion in New York. New York is 88 00:07:06.899 --> 00:07:12.300 the only place that will do an abortion, you know, at twenty six 89 00:07:12.500 --> 00:07:16.490 weeks. Maybe, I think, other states if there's a medical reason and 90 00:07:17.050 --> 00:07:20.209 something like that, but New York will, you know, allow you to 91 00:07:20.329 --> 00:07:26.490 do an elective abortion at twenty six weeks. Now, that's why you lived. 92 00:07:26.930 --> 00:07:30.040 You you now you live in South Carolina and at that time you lived 93 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.639 in South Carolina's that correct? Yeah, I was going to travel to go 94 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:35.639 get it done. Yeah, I actually, yeah, I got up there. 95 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:40.759 I went up there and I had my mom made up. You know, 96 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:44.310 I was going to go and and get rid of my baby. And 97 00:07:44.670 --> 00:07:51.189 then when I got up there, the coronavirus was, you know, just 98 00:07:51.670 --> 00:07:57.269 establishing itself in New York. You know, it's probably about maybe one fifteen 99 00:07:57.310 --> 00:08:00.779 hundred to twozo cases, something like that. Of course it was growing every 100 00:08:00.819 --> 00:08:05.339 day, but I just I was supposed to have the procedure done as a 101 00:08:05.459 --> 00:08:11.500 four day procedure. I was supposed to go on Monday and then the final 102 00:08:11.699 --> 00:08:16.569 procedure would have been on Thursday. In the in the midst of that, 103 00:08:16.649 --> 00:08:24.209 I kind of did some reading about the procedure and it was gut wrenching really. 104 00:08:24.250 --> 00:08:30.600 Yeah, but I still there was still that human part of me that 105 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.159 just for some reason, I didn't care. I just I was, you 106 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:37.320 know, and one of the things that I kept saying is, Gosh, 107 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:41.429 I'm being so selfish. And really all I kept thinking about was me, 108 00:08:41.950 --> 00:08:46.750 my feelings, how I felt. I cannot take care of this baby by 109 00:08:46.789 --> 00:08:50.070 myself. I don't want to be a own. It was just all about 110 00:08:50.190 --> 00:08:54.669 me. And Yeah, so I decided I'm going to go for and I'm 111 00:08:54.710 --> 00:09:00.379 going to get it done, and so I started reading as I was waiting 112 00:09:00.460 --> 00:09:03.980 for the day to come, because I went there on a Thursday. As 113 00:09:03.019 --> 00:09:09.059 I was waiting for Monday to approach, I started reading about the procedure and, 114 00:09:09.580 --> 00:09:13.450 you know, it's again, it's very it's gut wrenching. You know, 115 00:09:13.769 --> 00:09:16.730 they it's a when you're that far along. First of all, it's 116 00:09:16.730 --> 00:09:22.490 a baby. It's a it's a it's I mean from conception. It is 117 00:09:22.529 --> 00:09:26.320 a baby. And people can say, well, not to the heartbeats or 118 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:30.559 not till this and you know, certain things I have mixed feelings about, 119 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:35.879 but it is a baby. And I saw this baby. She has twelve 120 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.830 fingers, like I did, you know, and and yeah, and still 121 00:09:39.870 --> 00:09:46.590 I was still going to I'm still going to terminate her. And so the 122 00:09:46.750 --> 00:09:52.460 procedure is, you know, they put something in you and and then it 123 00:09:54.139 --> 00:10:01.019 kind of dilates you and then you come back and ultimately they dilate you and 124 00:10:01.100 --> 00:10:05.700 you deliver the baby. Yeah, and they crush the skull and it's heartbreaking. 125 00:10:07.059 --> 00:10:11.809 It is it is absolutely heartbreaking. You know everything I'll say just to 126 00:10:11.049 --> 00:10:13.649 just to jump in a little bit. I'll say, you know, I 127 00:10:15.129 --> 00:10:20.649 appreciate your be be very candid and being very honest and cheering what was going 128 00:10:20.690 --> 00:10:22.080 through your mind and what was going through your heart, because not, not 129 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:24.759 a lot of folks are willing to come to terms with you know, the 130 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.240 you just spoke about how you were being selfish and focused about you and and 131 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:33.559 it was about me. And what I felt and just being open like that 132 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.509 is really helpful, you know, for people who are, you know, 133 00:10:35.590 --> 00:10:39.230 in my position, who've never been in your position, for to kind of 134 00:10:39.269 --> 00:10:43.509 understand the mindset of a woman that would go and having to have an abortion, 135 00:10:43.590 --> 00:10:48.029 especially that far along. You know, like you said, it's a 136 00:10:48.110 --> 00:10:52.179 baby at conception and you that baby, you know it was human being, 137 00:10:52.220 --> 00:10:54.860 it's a person, but when you can actually feel that baby moving inside of 138 00:10:54.940 --> 00:10:58.940 you and you know you can see very clearly on the ultrasound ten fingers and 139 00:11:00.059 --> 00:11:03.889 tin toes, it's a human life, it's a bit of a jump to 140 00:11:05.009 --> 00:11:07.289 go to an abortion clinic in New York and to go through all of that. 141 00:11:07.450 --> 00:11:11.690 So for you to share, you know, from your heart what you're 142 00:11:11.690 --> 00:11:16.450 experiencing is really helpful. Let me ask you any did were there any voices 143 00:11:16.690 --> 00:11:24.879 speaking against the abortion at this point in your life? No. Actually, 144 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:33.230 before before I went to New York, I had I put a gun to 145 00:11:33.350 --> 00:11:41.070 my head and you know, I contemplate it suicide, and this is one 146 00:11:41.190 --> 00:11:46.779 my brother has sign stepped in and and contact that you guys. I just 147 00:11:46.940 --> 00:11:52.659 did not I just did not want to be here and not. So I 148 00:11:52.860 --> 00:11:58.100 sat in the bathroom and as I was sitting there, I could hit loud 149 00:11:58.940 --> 00:12:05.769 and clear, you know, I could hear go ahead and do it, 150 00:12:07.289 --> 00:12:11.610 pull the trigger, just takes a second. It'd be all over once you 151 00:12:11.690 --> 00:12:15.250 do it. Just go on and pull the trigger. Then you don't have 152 00:12:15.330 --> 00:12:22.960 to deal with this anymore. And I just like, I just I don't 153 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:30.830 know if it was, although I still did not change my mind at that 154 00:12:30.990 --> 00:12:39.470 time about the abortion, I knew that something was not that wasn't God. 155 00:12:39.830 --> 00:12:43.230 That was yeah, so what you're describing it, and I think a lot 156 00:12:43.269 --> 00:12:46.019 of us, you know, everybody has felt at some point. You probably 157 00:12:46.220 --> 00:12:50.299 you experienced it on a more heightened level, your experiencing spiritual warfare, your 158 00:12:50.340 --> 00:12:56.379 experiencing lies from the devil speaking things to you that were obviously not good. 159 00:12:58.019 --> 00:13:01.370 Did you know? That's exactly nice that. I'm sorry now it's going to 160 00:13:01.409 --> 00:13:07.129 say. That's exactly the way Vicky described it to me. Was Spiritual Warfare, 161 00:13:07.370 --> 00:13:09.570 Vicky, what were you saying that I wor I was just wondering if 162 00:13:09.690 --> 00:13:13.279 you recognized at the time, as you're litter into that voice, what are 163 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.840 you thinking? You you're thinking, okay, it's just not from God. 164 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:24.279 What did you think it was from. The only the way, the only 165 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.669 way that I can kind of make it picture clear as I just kind of 166 00:13:28.230 --> 00:13:33.629 if you ever see like a cartoon or something where you have the devil on 167 00:13:33.710 --> 00:13:39.509 one show then God on the other, I didn't hear any. I didn't 168 00:13:39.590 --> 00:13:46.460 hear God's voice. I didn't. But I knew that I'm not on the 169 00:13:46.580 --> 00:13:52.820 Devil's team and so I immediately cried out. I said God, you got 170 00:13:52.899 --> 00:13:56.769 to do something with me, you got to do something with me, because 171 00:13:58.850 --> 00:14:03.210 I I got in my car and I put that gun to my head and 172 00:14:03.570 --> 00:14:09.889 I was going to pull that trigger. And you know, we're thinking, 173 00:14:09.970 --> 00:14:11.840 God that you didn't. You know, we're glad we're able to talk to 174 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:16.960 you here and that to the the Lord, by His grace, protected you 175 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.799 from doing that. But what stopped you? I guess I never got that 176 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:26.269 a clear sense of what made you not because you've got a voice at almost 177 00:14:26.269 --> 00:14:28.590 audible. You said voice that it's saying pull the trigger, just do it. 178 00:14:28.669 --> 00:14:31.629 Get it. It sounds very compelling. But I was scared all your 179 00:14:31.750 --> 00:14:37.620 despair. So I was scared. I was scared. I was scared because 180 00:14:39.620 --> 00:14:43.419 I'm not up. I'm not I'm not a person that has never had a 181 00:14:43.580 --> 00:14:48.220 relationship with God. If I, you know, stared away or walked away 182 00:14:48.379 --> 00:14:54.970 whatever I've got myself into at that moment when I when I heard that loud 183 00:14:54.009 --> 00:14:58.529 and clear, I was scared. I you know, I don't w want 184 00:14:58.570 --> 00:15:03.090 to I didn't want to die. Something in me at that moment didn't care, 185 00:15:03.330 --> 00:15:07.360 and that, boys, you know, probably is what woke me up, 186 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:13.279 like no, no, you can't die. I was afraid and I 187 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:18.559 thought about my daughter. You know, my daughter me. She needs me. 188 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.110 I didn't think about my my unborn child, but my eight year old. 189 00:15:22.710 --> 00:15:28.309 She needs me. And if I would have taken my life, you 190 00:15:28.429 --> 00:15:31.389 know, who will she be with? I don't have family here, or 191 00:15:33.190 --> 00:15:37.299 I just you know, in one sense, I think you know, it's 192 00:15:37.299 --> 00:15:41.259 almost like the devil overplayed his hand. You know, he spoke that voice, 193 00:15:41.340 --> 00:15:45.340 and then you remembering because you've you know, you've been raised around the 194 00:15:45.500 --> 00:15:48.179 things of God. From what I've heard a little bit from you, you's 195 00:15:48.220 --> 00:15:50.889 at least known about the things of the Lord and his word and you knew 196 00:15:50.889 --> 00:15:54.289 that voice couldn't have come from God, because you know God comes to give 197 00:15:54.289 --> 00:15:58.450 us life, and more abundantly. So I praise God that you know you 198 00:15:58.529 --> 00:16:03.960 didn't do that and that you know you're still able to talk to us and 199 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:08.320 and the Lord is working in your life. If you could have any talk 200 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:12.879 a little bit about because I'm after that point it wasn't like you decided to 201 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:15.600 keep the baby at that point. You you still went ahead and went to 202 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:19.190 New York, right. So what was what was going through your mind as 203 00:16:19.230 --> 00:16:25.230 you were to just had that experience and now you're going to New York to 204 00:16:25.309 --> 00:16:27.750 potentially get through with this abortion? What was going through your mind and your 205 00:16:27.830 --> 00:16:32.899 heart on the way to New York? Is that spiritual warfare still going home? 206 00:16:32.980 --> 00:16:38.299 I'm sure it was. Yeah, well, when I was contemplate and 207 00:16:40.299 --> 00:16:45.379 you know, when I went to when I was going to take my life, 208 00:16:45.059 --> 00:16:51.809 it wasn't even that I felt like hopeless or I didn't want this baby, 209 00:16:52.210 --> 00:16:56.649 and which was what heightened that that feeling. So even after that, 210 00:16:57.250 --> 00:17:00.769 you know, that was one hurdle over. Okay, I'm not going to 211 00:17:00.850 --> 00:17:04.200 kill myself, clearly that's not the right thing to do. Mackenzie needs me, 212 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:10.880 but I am still going to get rid of this baby because I don't 213 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:17.750 want this baby and I don't know how I'll make it another four months pregnant, 214 00:17:17.789 --> 00:17:19.309 I don't know how I'll make it. I just won't make it. 215 00:17:19.549 --> 00:17:26.750 So I just felt like I just I still didn't want there was nothing else, 216 00:17:27.829 --> 00:17:32.220 there was nothing in me that felt like keeping this baby was the right 217 00:17:32.259 --> 00:17:36.059 yeah, you drive to New York here? Did you take a plane? 218 00:17:36.700 --> 00:17:41.019 I Wu yeah, flew to New York. Yeah, yeah, and that 219 00:17:41.180 --> 00:17:42.619 was a kind of, like you said, at the very beginning of the 220 00:17:42.740 --> 00:17:47.650 coronavirus scare and all of that. So people are still flying and all that 221 00:17:48.210 --> 00:17:52.849 probably pretty pretty, I guess, surreal thing going on. As you yeah, 222 00:17:52.970 --> 00:17:56.809 you're flying there some. Yeah, where did you? What did you 223 00:17:56.250 --> 00:17:59.839 end up at? As far as the abortion clinic there in New York, 224 00:17:59.880 --> 00:18:03.359 there's there's several of them there. You know what's abortion clinic? You? 225 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:08.359 I didn't. It wasn't an abortion clinic. They actually referred me because I've 226 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:15.950 had so many surgeries, I have a lot of scar tissue and adhesion. 227 00:18:15.150 --> 00:18:19.869 So I actually would have had to have my procedure done at Bellevue Hospital. 228 00:18:21.430 --> 00:18:25.549 Okay, Belle view, I'm outside our the only two, and Bellevue is 229 00:18:25.630 --> 00:18:30.180 the one that's accepts my insurance. YEA, so my my procedure would have 230 00:18:30.220 --> 00:18:34.940 been done at Bellevue. Okay. Yeah, and so you went there and 231 00:18:36.019 --> 00:18:38.259 you kind of checked in at the hospital at that point? Or did you 232 00:18:38.380 --> 00:18:45.410 even check in? No, I didn't check in. I just once I 233 00:18:45.569 --> 00:18:51.690 got I got to the point of reading and I still hadn't changed my mind. 234 00:18:51.890 --> 00:18:56.640 They got to Monday morning and, you know, I was getting myself 235 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:03.160 up and getting myself you know, I was getting myself ready and I was 236 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:11.190 looking at seeing in and those numbers were rising and they had Belle view is 237 00:19:11.269 --> 00:19:15.430 actually one of the hospitals that were housing some of the corona patients. Okay, 238 00:19:17.710 --> 00:19:23.269 and so that with I don't know what it at that point that, 239 00:19:23.980 --> 00:19:27.500 you know, I said I could I could die either way. You know, 240 00:19:27.660 --> 00:19:33.019 I could I could go in there and and have an abortion, I 241 00:19:33.099 --> 00:19:38.769 can die while they're delivering the baby because even me being forty two, I'm 242 00:19:38.809 --> 00:19:44.970 high risk and I have to have several die, have to have a hematologist 243 00:19:45.089 --> 00:19:48.250 in the room with me because of their fear that I could bleed the death. 244 00:19:49.450 --> 00:19:55.039 And I don't think during an abortion they would have cared enough to especially 245 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:57.680 with corona going on. There so many things going on in these doctors and 246 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:02.599 there. So I don't know if they would have had a hematologist there to 247 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:04.759 make sure that I didn't bleed to the you know, this is, yeah, 248 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:10.069 this is a procedure that I was electing to do. It wasn't you 249 00:20:10.190 --> 00:20:12.630 know. So I didn't know what the care level would be. And then, 250 00:20:12.910 --> 00:20:15.630 besides that, I just I just kept thinking, you know, I 251 00:20:15.710 --> 00:20:22.940 could die delivering this baby, I could die aboarding this baby, I could 252 00:20:23.019 --> 00:20:26.740 die just walking in the hospital, I could get sick because there's people there 253 00:20:27.059 --> 00:20:33.460 their housing, people with coronavirus. And then the things that I read it 254 00:20:33.539 --> 00:20:37.009 I just, you know, it just stopped me. Coronavirus scared me. 255 00:20:37.849 --> 00:20:41.890 There just was no way. Everything was against you know, the odds. 256 00:20:42.690 --> 00:20:49.279 It was just too much and I just started feeling like that's not the right 257 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:53.519 thing to do, you know, and God put things in my way to 258 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.079 that's how I feel. I feel like you put things in my way to 259 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:04.230 to show me, you know, this is not the right thing to do. 260 00:21:06.069 --> 00:21:10.509 She he did speak something to me. He did, you know, 261 00:21:10.750 --> 00:21:15.670 as I prayed and you know, he did say to me if if you 262 00:21:15.829 --> 00:21:19.980 take a life that doesn't belong to you, the consequences will be worse. 263 00:21:21.740 --> 00:21:26.380 And that was after the whole. You know, could this is why I'm 264 00:21:26.420 --> 00:21:30.299 in New York. You know, I was like really going through up and 265 00:21:30.460 --> 00:21:36.170 down battles and I just all I knew is I didn't want this baby. 266 00:21:36.690 --> 00:21:40.490 But, you know, after praying and just, you know, asking God 267 00:21:40.569 --> 00:21:44.569 to do something with me, and seeing all these people dying with this virus 268 00:21:44.730 --> 00:21:49.640 and you know, there's people that can't have kids and here I am taking 269 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:56.880 away one. And you know, just the the the articles I was reading 270 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:02.750 about abortions and the actual procedure that that that I would have had to go 271 00:22:03.029 --> 00:22:04.509 through. It just, you know, he put all of these things in 272 00:22:04.670 --> 00:22:08.990 front of me and I just it's just not the right thing to do. 273 00:22:10.910 --> 00:22:14.670 So there was just shift at this point where you're actually thinking about God, 274 00:22:14.710 --> 00:22:18.099 you're feeling like God was speaking to you, you're feeling like God was putting 275 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:22.660 barriers up. Had you been in and you mentioned praying to God? Had 276 00:22:22.740 --> 00:22:27.019 that been the case prior to flying out to New York? Had you been 277 00:22:27.180 --> 00:22:33.609 praying and feeling like you were hearing God, nor even attempting? What was 278 00:22:33.690 --> 00:22:38.170 going on in terms of your relationship with God at that point? I didn't 279 00:22:38.289 --> 00:22:45.319 pray on purpose, I didn't pray on purpose because I, you know, 280 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:51.960 the spiritual side of me, I still read my Bible and you know, 281 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:56.880 things like that, but the my carnal mine just took over that and I 282 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:03.950 haven't been doing you know, I'm still I was still sleeping here with someone 283 00:23:04.309 --> 00:23:07.990 and I wasn't married yet, and so, you know, I still wasn't 284 00:23:08.069 --> 00:23:12.380 living the life that I really should have been living. You know, with 285 00:23:12.619 --> 00:23:18.700 God is either there's no in between, you know, black and white. 286 00:23:18.700 --> 00:23:22.619 There's really no gray in the middle. Your then are you out. And 287 00:23:22.900 --> 00:23:30.849 so when I purposely didn't pray because I didn't want to hear I you know, 288 00:23:30.009 --> 00:23:34.329 I didn't want him to tell me not to do it. I didn't 289 00:23:34.329 --> 00:23:41.210 want him to send someone to, you know, speak to me for him. 290 00:23:41.210 --> 00:23:45.079 I didn't want you know, you can, you can hear God and 291 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.640 deny. You know that you hear him. That's not God talking to me, 292 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.400 that's not God, but he always confirms things and so, you know, 293 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.470 he could have sent someone to me. I just didn't want to hear 294 00:23:56.589 --> 00:24:02.990 anything. And I even had a friend who I was speaking to during this 295 00:24:03.150 --> 00:24:04.789 time and I even told US I don't want to hear anything about God. 296 00:24:06.029 --> 00:24:07.869 So if you're going to talk to me about God. I don't want to 297 00:24:07.950 --> 00:24:11.500 hear it. I don't want to hear it. Yeah, and so I 298 00:24:11.619 --> 00:24:15.460 didn't want to hear because she knew his answer basically, right. Yeah, 299 00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:23.259 yeah, yeah, so you're in you're in New York and you've now you're 300 00:24:23.490 --> 00:24:29.329 terrified. Basically Corona, who was killing so many people, saved your baby, 301 00:24:29.410 --> 00:24:32.650 I mean at you. Out of fear of Corona, turned away, 302 00:24:33.049 --> 00:24:36.970 never went. What happened next? Did you just fly right back home or 303 00:24:37.650 --> 00:24:41.599 I flew back home? Yeah, and what's going on in your head through 304 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:47.599 all of that? Are you still feeling totally torn up or no, I 305 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:59.950 actually didn't have any feeling of abordant the baby. I it was like a 306 00:25:00.269 --> 00:25:06.549 complete shift in that aspect. I did contemplate other things like adoption and stuff 307 00:25:06.630 --> 00:25:12.940 like that, but abortion was no longer an option and I went back just 308 00:25:14.180 --> 00:25:19.500 I came back home just thinking, wow, I can't believe what I just 309 00:25:19.700 --> 00:25:25.130 went through. It wasn't even, you know, it wasn't even me, 310 00:25:25.329 --> 00:25:32.250 I wasn't even myself, and I'm just so thankful because I can't imagine the 311 00:25:33.369 --> 00:25:42.960 emotional, maybe mental torment that I would have had to experience after after that. 312 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:48.440 Yeah, I know, you know, just you know from my perspective. 313 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:51.430 You know, I've never been in your shoes before. You know, 314 00:25:51.470 --> 00:25:53.869 I was a father pretty young, so I know a little bit, you 315 00:25:53.950 --> 00:25:57.990 know, from the from the guys perspective, but from a woman's respective obviously 316 00:25:57.990 --> 00:26:00.869 I don't. I don't know. So you to share your hearts really helpful 317 00:26:00.910 --> 00:26:03.940 for me and I know it'll be really helpful for people that are listening, 318 00:26:04.019 --> 00:26:08.819 because you know people. People think you know some folks that you know. 319 00:26:08.980 --> 00:26:12.380 Just going into an abortion clinic. Women just flippantly go in and they you 320 00:26:12.460 --> 00:26:17.059 know, you spoken a lot about the selfishness that you were embracing and all 321 00:26:17.140 --> 00:26:19.369 of that, but you didn't just go with this thing flippantly. There's some 322 00:26:19.529 --> 00:26:22.170 fear and there's a lot of stuff going on, a lot of anxiety, 323 00:26:22.170 --> 00:26:27.170 a lot of issues in your life, and they fully the Lord put things 324 00:26:27.210 --> 00:26:30.650 in your path you keep you from going in and doing that and you heeded 325 00:26:30.769 --> 00:26:36.119 his voice and that sense and we're thankful for that. But the Lord also, 326 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:38.599 after you got back home, also put Vicky in your life. Right, 327 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:44.480 yes, yeah, talk a little bit about that relationship and just some 328 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:48.309 of the things because you know, obviously your situation didn't go away. You 329 00:26:48.390 --> 00:26:51.470 know, you weren't New York anymore, you weren't contemplate an abortion anymore, 330 00:26:51.710 --> 00:26:55.390 but they're still struggles and those kind of things. What are as far as 331 00:26:55.390 --> 00:27:00.190 the relationship with Vicki, what happened that helped you along in that relationship? 332 00:27:00.230 --> 00:27:06.740 If you understand what I'm asking, let me say that I sent my brother. 333 00:27:07.819 --> 00:27:11.420 My brother is not he doesn't answer his phone. Okay, a lie, 334 00:27:11.579 --> 00:27:18.930 and so most brothers. Yeah, so I still have a picture of 335 00:27:19.170 --> 00:27:25.369 me with that gun to my head and it was more like, Hey, 336 00:27:25.410 --> 00:27:26.809 I need you to call me, this is serious. You know, I 337 00:27:26.890 --> 00:27:30.119 didn't say that, I just said him the picture. Yeah, and he 338 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.119 called me back right away, you know, and this, of course, 339 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.839 is before I left for New York. But okay, he had reached out 340 00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:45.069 to Vicky's organization. He reached out to them before I let that day. 341 00:27:45.269 --> 00:27:47.630 You know, he was calling people and I called us, to us, 342 00:27:47.670 --> 00:27:49.430 I you know, he said call this number, call this number, there's 343 00:27:49.509 --> 00:27:55.710 a suicide hotline, and I called and it was not. You know, 344 00:27:56.230 --> 00:28:00.539 it didn't. That wasn't what helped. You know that that hot line I 345 00:28:00.779 --> 00:28:04.980 called because I didn't want I was scared. I didn't want to kill myself, 346 00:28:06.059 --> 00:28:07.779 but I felt like if I got to carry this baby, I'm out 347 00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:11.579 of here. Yeah, I'm not doing this. And so anyway, when 348 00:28:11.619 --> 00:28:18.369 I got back from New York, I guess that, you know, that 349 00:28:18.210 --> 00:28:25.250 request for help to reach out to me had already gone out. And so 350 00:28:25.450 --> 00:28:29.640 now I'm back and you know, I'm home and I'm back to work and 351 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.880 just trying to get myself back to some kind of normality. And then my 352 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.880 brother text me. He said, hey, this someone trying to reach out 353 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:44.670 to you. When you're available. And I'm going to be so completely honest, 354 00:28:44.829 --> 00:28:48.509 I am not the person that will follow through with something like this. 355 00:28:48.630 --> 00:28:57.099 I'm not. I normally just try to just take care of whatever I need 356 00:28:57.259 --> 00:29:02.339 to on my own without basically, you don't like people in Your Business, 357 00:29:02.420 --> 00:29:06.059 right. Yeah, yeah, I get it. That's about it. Yeah, 358 00:29:06.660 --> 00:29:08.579 I get it. I I tried to sugarcoat that thing a little bit, 359 00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:12.450 but you got me. Yeah, Hey, I'm kind of like that 360 00:29:12.650 --> 00:29:19.450 to you. But Vicky, she called me, I think on a Thursday, 361 00:29:19.849 --> 00:29:26.240 my day off. She reached out to me and I talked to her 362 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:32.880 for over an hour and she was just like, you know, we talked 363 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:37.559 about God, and we talked about you know, she kind of said some 364 00:29:37.869 --> 00:29:42.750 she asked me questions, you know, like what does it mean? You 365 00:29:42.869 --> 00:29:48.029 know that you're safe. What do you think that means? And you know, 366 00:29:48.190 --> 00:29:56.940 she just really got me to thinking about what Jesus Christ really you know, 367 00:29:56.099 --> 00:29:59.940 she had me remember, you know, yeah, what is? What 368 00:30:00.180 --> 00:30:03.980 is Jesus Christ mean to you? And he should be the focal point of 369 00:30:03.220 --> 00:30:08.369 my life, because nothing's going to work without that. People think that they're 370 00:30:08.650 --> 00:30:12.490 happy and it's not happiness, you know. That's why you have, you 371 00:30:12.569 --> 00:30:15.650 know, people think money makes them happy and that's why you have all these 372 00:30:15.690 --> 00:30:21.519 rich people that are committing suicide and things like. That's not happiness, you 373 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:26.319 know. And so talking to her was just it was like God just sent 374 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.079 the angel to me and I I didn't ask for for for anything. She's 375 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:37.309 just been a blessing, you know, offering counseling services that I'm very excited 376 00:30:37.390 --> 00:30:41.910 to take. I have a mentor now that I speak to every day. 377 00:30:41.950 --> 00:30:49.819 Yep, Teresa. She's awesome. I speak to shelly and and I just 378 00:30:51.059 --> 00:30:53.660 want you know I've decided to keep my baby. I'm not going to give 379 00:30:53.660 --> 00:31:00.220 her up for adoption. I'm going to keep her and Vicky. It's nothing 380 00:31:00.299 --> 00:31:04.089 that they were going to do. They have all of this help and just 381 00:31:04.289 --> 00:31:08.970 spiritual help and just being being there for me. Vicki checks in on me 382 00:31:10.809 --> 00:31:19.480 and she's just been such a blessing. And is nothing physical or financial or 383 00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:26.279 anything that anyone can or is doing for me that makes me feel that way. 384 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:34.190 I'm just so grateful that God sent them to me because it has helped 385 00:31:34.269 --> 00:31:41.190 me to just kind of keep moving in the right direction. You know, 386 00:31:41.990 --> 00:31:45.750 it really is a lot of times it's so Luy. HMM, yeah, 387 00:31:45.789 --> 00:31:48.339 I was, I say a lot of times in our lives. You know, 388 00:31:48.380 --> 00:31:51.619 it's not, like you said, the physical things or if some people 389 00:31:51.660 --> 00:31:53.380 do is financial, lick and all these other things, but some of the 390 00:31:53.420 --> 00:31:59.900 most important aspects of a struggle like this and US getting through a struggle is 391 00:32:00.140 --> 00:32:04.369 people around you that are encouraging you, people that are holding you accountable and 392 00:32:04.450 --> 00:32:07.809 speaking the truth to you in love, but encouraging you along, to your 393 00:32:07.849 --> 00:32:13.569 people like shelley, like Theresa, Your Mentor, and then Vicky, you 394 00:32:13.650 --> 00:32:16.519 know, any of my life people who encourage me along. It's like, 395 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:21.119 I don't know if I could have made it through without that encouragement you know. 396 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.720 So I appreciate you sharing that because that's a that's a powerful thing that 397 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:28.240 we all can do for other people. It's encourage what I know you were 398 00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:34.109 you were thinking about after abortion was off the table, then adoption was very 399 00:32:34.150 --> 00:32:37.190 much, I think, in your thoughts. What changed? What happened that 400 00:32:37.269 --> 00:32:45.220 made you decide you would like to parent your baby? Um, for one 401 00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:52.099 Mackenzie, my daughter, you know she is. You know she said to 402 00:32:52.220 --> 00:32:58.380 me, she said, mom, you know, I'm lonely and and you 403 00:32:58.500 --> 00:33:07.690 know, I don't think that God would have given me the opera to this. 404 00:33:07.849 --> 00:33:10.289 So many people that can't have children. You know, it could be 405 00:33:10.329 --> 00:33:14.920 a gift either way. You know, person that can't have children, I 406 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:20.000 could bless them with a child. But God gave her to me, and 407 00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:25.119 so I think that, you know, he feels like, you know, 408 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:30.309 I gave her to you because you can do it. And so and I'm 409 00:33:30.390 --> 00:33:36.789 here to help you, and I will say, you know, even with 410 00:33:37.109 --> 00:33:40.150 you know, Vicki telling me, you know, will have a baby shower 411 00:33:40.309 --> 00:33:44.819 for you and stuff like that. You know, I was saying yesterday and 412 00:33:45.299 --> 00:33:47.380 I was just I was praying and I just was like Lord, thank you, 413 00:33:49.019 --> 00:33:52.460 because these are not things that I've asked for. He's just letting me 414 00:33:52.619 --> 00:33:58.289 know you're you're going to. What are you concerned about? Are you concerned 415 00:33:58.329 --> 00:34:01.930 about taking care of, or not being able to take care of a child 416 00:34:02.089 --> 00:34:06.490 that I gave to you having? I provided for you the whole time. 417 00:34:06.609 --> 00:34:09.760 You Have Mackenzie and I and I was afraid of having her. I didn't 418 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.880 consider, you know, the same. I wasn't in the the mindset that 419 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.480 I was in with this child, but I was afraid, you know, 420 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.320 I couldn't as I want to take care of baby. My money is not 421 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:27.349 right, you know, and babysitting and he's net. He hasn't felt me 422 00:34:27.429 --> 00:34:31.710 yet. Mackenzie has always had someone to watch her, you know, even 423 00:34:31.789 --> 00:34:35.309 if it's been a struggle, if I had to take her to New York 424 00:34:35.789 --> 00:34:38.460 for the summer with my sister or whatever it is. That is always been 425 00:34:38.500 --> 00:34:43.219 a way, mate, and it's the same way this time, and it 426 00:34:43.380 --> 00:34:45.500 just made me see, you know, how is going to he is going 427 00:34:45.539 --> 00:34:52.219 to provide. I don't have anything to be afraid of. And he thought 428 00:34:52.539 --> 00:34:57.570 of me to be able to conceive at forty two. Even though it was 429 00:34:57.730 --> 00:35:04.809 out of sin, he still allowed me to conceive and, like Vickie said, 430 00:35:04.809 --> 00:35:07.800 I don't know. You know, I don't know what this baby, 431 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.920 you know, could bring into this world. You know, could be the 432 00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:16.159 next president, the first female president. You know, we just don't know. 433 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.000 And who I was going to take her away, you know, I 434 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.269 was gonna, I was going to take our way and I have to work 435 00:35:24.389 --> 00:35:30.030 now on forgiving myself for that. You know. Yeah, that's really been 436 00:35:30.110 --> 00:35:35.739 my for the past couple of weeks. That's really been the thing that comes 437 00:35:35.820 --> 00:35:39.500 back to me. It's just, you know, forgiven myself for even thinking 438 00:35:39.619 --> 00:35:45.179 to go in that direction. Right. But if you've repented before the Lord, 439 00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:50.409 and the Lord died a horrific death for you to pay the penalty for 440 00:35:50.489 --> 00:35:54.530 your sin and he has forgiven you when you repented and turned from that sin. 441 00:35:55.530 --> 00:36:00.409 You know, ultimately, ultimately, we have to just figure if he 442 00:36:00.530 --> 00:36:06.000 can forgive us. We definitely need to forgive ourselves. But you do have 443 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:10.400 something to worry about because there's going to be a big fight here in Charlotte 444 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:19.070 about who gets to give you the baby shower on the Oh my God, 445 00:36:19.190 --> 00:36:22.110 so we so we do know. It's a girl. It's a girl. 446 00:36:22.230 --> 00:36:25.150 That correct. It's a little girl. Her name is Zada, sky, 447 00:36:27.389 --> 00:36:32.940 Vega, Zeta, Zada. Say That, guy. Yeah, they does. 448 00:36:34.139 --> 00:36:37.380 Guy, that's a beautiful name. Does it have a meaning? They're 449 00:36:37.380 --> 00:36:45.460 especially no, Zeta is prosperous and pop useful. Saying Sky, I just 450 00:36:45.940 --> 00:36:49.889 I don't know, it just kind of came to me, but yeah, 451 00:36:50.010 --> 00:36:54.610 very pretty. And when are you do? So I said, okay, 452 00:36:55.170 --> 00:37:00.679 well, right after Independence Day, may even day. Yeah, it's an 453 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.840 amazing story of any yeah, yeah, we really appreciate you sharing it, 454 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.159 evy, appreciate all that. You know, again, you just being very 455 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.840 open and honest about what's going what was going through your heart and your mind 456 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.429 and and all of that is, you know, that's a rare quality from 457 00:37:15.469 --> 00:37:19.349 a person to be be that open and we appreciate that. And can I 458 00:37:19.389 --> 00:37:22.510 ask you one more question? And Dan, you may have others also, 459 00:37:22.630 --> 00:37:28.230 and I may end up having others, but what would you say to someone 460 00:37:28.829 --> 00:37:35.460 in a desperate situation like you were? What would you tell them that might 461 00:37:35.780 --> 00:37:42.260 give them hope and a the ability to turn from that destructive path of abortion? 462 00:37:44.809 --> 00:37:52.409 I would say that when that baby is conceived, that is a baby, 463 00:37:52.610 --> 00:37:59.400 it is a life and you know, as as God said to me, 464 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.400 you know if you take a life that doesn't belong to you, the 465 00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:08.039 consequences would be worse and we don't want to know what that means, you 466 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:15.389 know. You know, we don't want to have to to experience those type 467 00:38:15.469 --> 00:38:21.869 of consequences. And there's other options. You know, there is adoption and, 468 00:38:22.110 --> 00:38:25.590 although I decided not to go that route for my own reasons, there 469 00:38:25.630 --> 00:38:31.059 are people out here that are not able to conceive and they can't afford, 470 00:38:31.739 --> 00:38:37.219 you know, to pay thousands of dollars to have, you know, labs 471 00:38:37.340 --> 00:38:43.449 do things to you know, in vitro and stuff like that. They would 472 00:38:43.449 --> 00:38:52.090 be so blessed to to have a child, to raise your child for you. 473 00:38:52.329 --> 00:38:57.639 And there's all kind of different options with the with adoption now, where 474 00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.239 you can still be a part of the babies life kind of, if you 475 00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:06.280 know, if you want to. But abortion is murder. It is it. 476 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:12.829 And my brother said something so harsh to me and when he said it 477 00:39:12.869 --> 00:39:15.110 to me, I wanted to, when I say, I wanted to swear 478 00:39:15.150 --> 00:39:17.829 at them, I wanted to curse them out and say, how dare you 479 00:39:19.150 --> 00:39:22.789 say something like that? But he said, would you take a gun and 480 00:39:22.909 --> 00:39:27.940 shoot Mackenzie in the head? And I said how dare you? How dare 481 00:39:28.019 --> 00:39:30.860 you? I did anything but curse. I did every yeah, curse, 482 00:39:30.699 --> 00:39:36.500 but when I thought about it, it is murder and it's just I've never 483 00:39:36.579 --> 00:39:42.010 met this baby, but I feel her moving and you know, my daughter 484 00:39:42.250 --> 00:39:45.690 and I and my son were born with twelve fingers instead of ten. And 485 00:39:45.730 --> 00:39:50.409 I I saw the Sonogram. She has twelve fingers, just like I was 486 00:39:50.449 --> 00:39:57.639 wondering about that said earlier. Yeah, mistake. Yeah, that's so. 487 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:05.039 I would just say, please, don't, don't, don't abort your baby. 488 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.949 You know there's get some there's all kind of help and you know, 489 00:40:09.590 --> 00:40:16.710 local churches and there's other options for you. Don't, don't kill your baby. 490 00:40:16.750 --> 00:40:30.260 A yeah, Amen, Ebony, give me for love. Thanks for 491 00:40:30.380 --> 00:40:32.980 listening to this episode of the Gospel Center per life podcast. We hope it 492 00:40:34.059 --> 00:40:36.409 was a blessing to you. If you'd like to get in touch with us, 493 00:40:36.530 --> 00:40:39.610 email me at d parks at city for lifecom, and please check out 494 00:40:39.610 --> 00:40:44.969 our sidewalks for life site. So I walks the number four lifecom. Godless 495 00:40:45.610 --> you.