July 1, 2021

Explaining What We Do To The World

Explaining What We Do To The World

If you’ve been involved with sidewalk ministry for any amount of time you faced the inevitable question “So what kind of work do you do?”. That question can be awkward and embarrassing to answer. In this episode, we talk about times we have...


If you’ve been involved with sidewalk ministry for any amount of time you faced the inevitable question “So what kind of work do you do?”. That question can be awkward and embarrassing to answer. In this episode, we talk about times we have faced this question and some God-honoring and Biblical ways to respond. 

https://sidewalks4life.com/responding-when-someone-asks-what-do-you-do/

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:06.320 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours and me. Welcome 2 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:09.830 to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. Have you ever been in that awkward 3 00:00:09.830 --> 00:00:13.390 situation when someone asks you what do you do and you have to explain to 4 00:00:13.429 --> 00:00:17.269 them the ministry on the sidewalk? This episode, Viki now talk about those 5 00:00:17.269 --> 00:00:23.699 awkward situations and how to honor God through them. Stay with us. I 6 00:00:24.059 --> 00:00:35.380 felt show passish touts your use me he they're. Welcome to the Gospel centered 7 00:00:35.500 --> 00:00:39.729 pro life podcast. I'm Vicky, I'm Hereriet, I'm Daniel. Daniel. 8 00:00:39.969 --> 00:00:45.609 Yeah, and this is a podcast that, as many of them do, 9 00:00:46.490 --> 00:00:51.560 came to mind because of real life situations that I know many people in our 10 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:58.840 ministry or our type of ministry, deal with the inevitable question in a social 11 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:02.560 situation. Yeah, with often people you don't know at all. You don't 12 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:07.150 they're not necessarily believers. Oftentimes they're not. Maybe neighbors work something where they 13 00:01:07.150 --> 00:01:11.989 say, so, what do you do? Yeah, and I don't know 14 00:01:11.109 --> 00:01:15.989 about how most people respond when they hear that question in their life, but 15 00:01:15.109 --> 00:01:19.939 when I hear that question, my heart sinks, I start to sweat hard 16 00:01:21.060 --> 00:01:27.500 palpitations. I mean, I know I am about to endure a very socially 17 00:01:27.540 --> 00:01:38.049 awkward moment. Yeah, because it just is not generally a well accepted work 18 00:01:38.170 --> 00:01:41.250 that we do, even among we've talked about that in many podcasts, even 19 00:01:41.290 --> 00:01:44.930 among Christian circles. Yeah, we did a podcast couple of weeks ago about 20 00:01:44.930 --> 00:01:48.200 dealing with criticism. Right, so this is kind of along those same lines. 21 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:52.959 It's kind of that that social, I guess, view of what we 22 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.680 do right. And yet talks specifically, yeah, from maybe it mays book 23 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:00.000 right, maybe the differences in in that last podcast. So those are people 24 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.989 coming to you while you're doing what they know what you do. There they 25 00:02:04.069 --> 00:02:07.430 come and talk to you as you're doing it in general and then they're expressing 26 00:02:07.510 --> 00:02:12.069 the criticism. In this case these are people. Usually it's like I was 27 00:02:12.189 --> 00:02:15.780 telling you earlier before we started this, it was neighbors. We met across 28 00:02:15.819 --> 00:02:19.659 the fence for the first time and we're exchanging, you know, just summaries 29 00:02:19.699 --> 00:02:22.699 of our lives and then they said so what do you do, Vicky? 30 00:02:23.379 --> 00:02:30.210 And it had often so light and cheery and and really nice interaction. And 31 00:02:30.530 --> 00:02:35.689 when I said that first sentence of what I do, I'm on a sidewalk 32 00:02:35.729 --> 00:02:39.689 in front of an abortion center. And I encourage the women to choose life. 33 00:02:40.409 --> 00:02:46.280 Dead Silence. Yeah, awkward, Dead Silence, eyes averted, you 34 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:49.960 know, people looking everywhere. Yeah, how do we get out of this? 35 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:53.120 And that is often the point at which, certainly in my past, 36 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:59.110 I would just change the subject, move on. Sure, St Start talking 37 00:02:59.150 --> 00:03:04.270 about other things, my children, my dog, anything. But but I'm 38 00:03:04.310 --> 00:03:06.909 not. I don't do that so much anymore. Yeah, I kind of 39 00:03:06.990 --> 00:03:12.270 I I've come to a different sense of what I should do with that question. 40 00:03:12.310 --> 00:03:15.580 Yeah, you know, personally, as I shared with you, and 41 00:03:15.699 --> 00:03:19.219 you guys probably, if you've been doing this or any amount of time, 42 00:03:19.219 --> 00:03:23.580 you know exactly what we're talking about. Right, you're at a social function 43 00:03:23.620 --> 00:03:25.259 or something, that's like one of the first questions that people ask you. 44 00:03:25.460 --> 00:03:29.289 Exactly what do you do? Yeah, right, because we as a society, 45 00:03:29.889 --> 00:03:32.370 we like to define people by by their vocation. Right, is not. 46 00:03:32.650 --> 00:03:36.409 You know, I ask the question, what do you do to try 47 00:03:36.449 --> 00:03:40.210 to get a feel for that person? Yeah, yeah, and so my 48 00:03:40.370 --> 00:03:45.879 response actually, I told you, I kind of I gage whether or not 49 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:50.520 I have enough time to explain whether or not I want to really go there 50 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.800 at this point. So sometimes, Daniel, we never want to go there. 51 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:59.870 Let's well, sometimes I do. Sometimes I feel inclined to go there 52 00:03:59.949 --> 00:04:03.150 and kind of explain and really give an apologetic I guess, yeah, for 53 00:04:03.590 --> 00:04:06.789 why we do what we do at all on all of that. But you 54 00:04:06.870 --> 00:04:09.830 know, if I'm in a hurt, in a hurry and I don't really 55 00:04:09.870 --> 00:04:13.379 want to deal with the explanation because this is not a vocation, this is 56 00:04:13.500 --> 00:04:15.540 not a ministry. I mean, if you're a pastor, you caxam a 57 00:04:15.540 --> 00:04:18.899 pastor of a church, people know exactly well all that that entails. Not 58 00:04:19.100 --> 00:04:23.779 all of it, but they understand what you're talking about and other things. 59 00:04:23.819 --> 00:04:27.089 And even if you said you're I'm a missionary, right, you could say 60 00:04:27.129 --> 00:04:29.889 that. Yeah, but people know what that means. You don't have to 61 00:04:29.970 --> 00:04:33.490 give a long explanation or whatever. But with this, you know, you 62 00:04:34.449 --> 00:04:39.319 you might say all for help and hope in the name of Jesus, at 63 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:44.040 an abortion center, but what they hear is I yell at people at an 64 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.720 abortion clinic and and Harrass and judging condemn. Yeah, exactly, they're. 65 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:53.589 They're not. I don't think of those other fields of work. The misconception. 66 00:04:53.829 --> 00:04:57.550 Yeah, absolutely, whereas there is yeah, and so we do. 67 00:04:58.269 --> 00:05:00.189 When I get in those situations where I I don't really feel like going into 68 00:05:00.189 --> 00:05:04.310 a long explanation, and I think I'm a cop out in this area. 69 00:05:04.430 --> 00:05:08.459 I agree. I will say something to the effect of I work for a 70 00:05:08.579 --> 00:05:13.339 nonprofit that helps women in crisis pregnancy situations, right, right, and I'll 71 00:05:13.339 --> 00:05:16.939 get into that. That's basically my explanation. Yeah, and I don't really 72 00:05:16.939 --> 00:05:20.180 have to get into details on that, right. So I'll tell you that. 73 00:05:20.569 --> 00:05:24.730 That is what I you. I don't know if I stated it that 74 00:05:24.850 --> 00:05:28.610 way, but something that was kind of hedge. Yeah, that's what you 75 00:05:28.730 --> 00:05:31.370 used to say before you grew a backbone. Exactly kind to say. So 76 00:05:31.449 --> 00:05:33.730 you're trying to say I need to grow back, I think. So. 77 00:05:33.930 --> 00:05:40.639 Here's here's well, I had a recent experience that actually prompted this podcast and 78 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:46.360 I thought, since we are a Gospel centered prolife podcast, that maybe we 79 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:51.389 should start the reason for why I feel like there's been a shift in me. 80 00:05:51.709 --> 00:05:58.189 Okay, with some verses from first Peter Three, okay, wellknown versus. 81 00:05:58.350 --> 00:06:00.990 Yeah, a lot of you have heard these verses, but these verses 82 00:06:01.189 --> 00:06:08.699 call out to me and tell me I need to tell people what I do 83 00:06:09.300 --> 00:06:14.139 and not just give that one sentence. That is going to make them all 84 00:06:14.740 --> 00:06:17.569 run from me? Yeah, but to actually expand upon it in a way 85 00:06:18.490 --> 00:06:26.129 that God is glorified, magnified and advancing his kingdom, and I believe really 86 00:06:26.810 --> 00:06:30.250 that question that I used to look at with dread, and I'd be lying 87 00:06:30.329 --> 00:06:32.079 if I said I don't feel dread. I do. Every time I hear 88 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:40.000 it, I feel sent of dread. What do you do right? Oh, 89 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:44.839 it's awful, it's awful, but I think I want to I'm kind 90 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:48.189 of turning it around in my heart, as it's an opportunity. It has 91 00:06:48.230 --> 00:06:53.110 become an opportunity. Do you want to share this? This verse? You 92 00:06:53.189 --> 00:06:58.029 read it all right, it's first Peter Three versus fifteen and sixteen. But 93 00:06:58.310 --> 00:07:02.620 sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense 94 00:07:03.019 --> 00:07:08.980 to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in 95 00:07:09.139 --> 00:07:14.180 you. Yet with gentleness and reference and keep a good conscience, so that, 96 00:07:14.379 --> 00:07:17.329 in the thing in that you are slandered, those who revile your good 97 00:07:17.410 --> 00:07:21.730 behavior in Christ will be put to shame. Yeah, my goal is not 98 00:07:21.810 --> 00:07:26.009 to put anyone to shame, but there is no doubt that what we do 99 00:07:26.170 --> 00:07:31.279 is lander. Yeah, in media, in just in people's hearts and minds 100 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:35.279 this. They they don't know what we do and they they look at it, 101 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:40.560 it in general, in a very negative light. Even Christians, I 102 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.470 find I'm hard pressed to find people that will say wow, that is really 103 00:07:44.509 --> 00:07:48.269 yeah, wonderful. Almost never. Yeah, yeah, well, I will 104 00:07:48.350 --> 00:07:54.670 say in my defense. Okay, this is me twisting scripture a little bit 105 00:07:54.790 --> 00:07:58.110 to make myself feel better. I'm not twisting it, I'm taking it for 106 00:07:58.230 --> 00:08:01.500 what it says actually, but sanctify crisis Lord in your heart, in your 107 00:08:01.540 --> 00:08:07.579 heart. Yeah, always being ready to make a defense doesn't say always making 108 00:08:07.620 --> 00:08:11.019 a defense. Okay, I just so, I'm ready. How about that? 109 00:08:11.300 --> 00:08:13.689 I'm always ready. Okay, I can make a good defense and what 110 00:08:13.810 --> 00:08:16.250 I do and why I do what I do. Yes, I don't mean 111 00:08:16.370 --> 00:08:20.850 always have to defend what I do right. I mean, though, I 112 00:08:20.009 --> 00:08:24.050 really have to to share. Well, every time someone asks me to deal 113 00:08:24.170 --> 00:08:26.800 with God, okay, about that, leg got to do with me that 114 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.240 issue, and God will got to deal with you. So, so we've 115 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.879 all been there, and so let me. I'll tell you about my experience 116 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.559 and then you can tell me if it's right or wrong or how I dealt 117 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.950 with but I learned a lot of things in this I mean there's been many, 118 00:08:41.990 --> 00:08:46.590 many times that I've dealt with this question, but it happens specifically when 119 00:08:46.629 --> 00:08:52.990 I was getting new classes just a couple weeks ago. Yeah, and the 120 00:08:52.230 --> 00:08:58.779 person who does all the tests before the optician gets me is someone I have 121 00:08:58.899 --> 00:09:03.259 a relationship with. We have been friends should because I've been going to the 122 00:09:03.299 --> 00:09:05.779 side doctor for years. She's she's remained the same. The eye doctor has 123 00:09:05.820 --> 00:09:09.009 changed, other staff have changed, but she's remained the same. So she 124 00:09:09.169 --> 00:09:15.250 knows what I do. She's a believer. She's very supportive of what I 125 00:09:15.409 --> 00:09:20.690 do and we have talked about it before. So we finish all the eye 126 00:09:20.769 --> 00:09:24.960 test I go in and get the exam from the optician. I forget if 127 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:28.039 it's the optician or ophthemologist, but anyway I don't know. And then I 128 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.600 go out to go pick out the glasses and I haven't gotten glasses in years. 129 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:33.360 I don't like glasses, I don't wear glasses. They're back up, 130 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.759 but I figure if I'm going to spend all the money for a glass glasses, 131 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.429 I should get a nice one. So it was closing time. There's 132 00:09:41.470 --> 00:09:46.470 like four or five employees all getting their starting to clean up and close up. 133 00:09:46.149 --> 00:09:50.710 And and I go over to pick out the glasses and I said, 134 00:09:50.710 --> 00:09:54.340 I have no idea. What could they said something. Well, what are 135 00:09:54.379 --> 00:09:56.860 you looking for? Well, and I said, I have no idea, 136 00:09:56.940 --> 00:10:00.419 I just don't know. And so all five of them, including the OPTICIAN, 137 00:10:00.539 --> 00:10:03.700 gather around. It was fun. They're picking out all these different frames 138 00:10:03.740 --> 00:10:09.649 and and they pick out a beautiful, wildly colored just they you, they 139 00:10:09.649 --> 00:10:13.289 were obviously even me, with no taste, could tell these were pretty controversial 140 00:10:13.330 --> 00:10:18.250 kinds of glasses. And and and she handed it to me, my friend, 141 00:10:18.250 --> 00:10:20.799 and said, oh, but these would probably be a little too wild 142 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:26.080 for the work that you do, maybe too happy. Okay, the work 143 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:31.320 that you do. And I'm like already starting to sweat thinking here it comes 144 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:39.789 at explain and and one of the other employees had what what does she do? 145 00:10:39.509 --> 00:10:43.830 And she said well, Vicky, why don't you tell us? So 146 00:10:45.029 --> 00:10:48.830 here we go and again my first response was to do what you do, 147 00:10:50.340 --> 00:10:54.940 just deflect, yeah, and and give some kind of noncommittal general answer. 148 00:10:56.659 --> 00:11:01.820 But I thought I can't do that. I I need to tell them what 149 00:11:01.899 --> 00:11:05.009 I do. So I said, you know, I'm I'm CIBOT, counselor 150 00:11:05.049 --> 00:11:09.169 in front of an abortion center and I offer hope and help to women who 151 00:11:09.169 --> 00:11:18.409 are going into abort their child. And and that's about it. Yeah, 152 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:26.720 and instantly predictable response. Their faces fall immediately, because I've been doing this 153 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.559 a long time and you develop sixth sense of people and their responses and why 154 00:11:33.230 --> 00:11:37.750 kind of they've got their response. I could tell to the women had had 155 00:11:37.750 --> 00:11:41.909 an abortion. I felt almost beyond a shadow of a doubt. They looked 156 00:11:41.909 --> 00:11:46.070 away and you could see shame. Yeah, you could just I don't know, 157 00:11:46.230 --> 00:11:48.779 I can't define it, but I could tell there was guilt, there 158 00:11:48.860 --> 00:11:56.740 was shame and and a wall went right up. Yeah, and maybe that's 159 00:11:56.779 --> 00:12:01.179 what bade me soldier on, because I was thinking I can't leave it there, 160 00:12:01.490 --> 00:12:09.490 right, because it already is a guilty, silent thing. that their 161 00:12:09.970 --> 00:12:16.559 burden. Yeah, they're carrying and maybe God had engineered that moment for me 162 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:24.960 to somehow lift that burden. Yeah, so I decided to go on to 163 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:31.830 explain more right and and in my head is the thought there are post abortive 164 00:12:31.870 --> 00:12:39.669 women hearing this. So the first thing I said is no one wants to 165 00:12:39.789 --> 00:12:43.909 get an abortion, no one wants an abortions. Could what I was hoping 166 00:12:43.070 --> 00:12:50.019 to do with that was kind of dispel the lie that abortion is normal and 167 00:12:50.220 --> 00:12:56.220 good, right, but also to speak to them. I know you didn't 168 00:12:56.259 --> 00:12:58.929 want that abortion. Yeah, and I know there is a not a victim 169 00:13:00.009 --> 00:13:05.210 movement and I agree with that in part, but I think that in many 170 00:13:05.250 --> 00:13:09.250 of the women coming for abortion they're not victims in the true sense of the 171 00:13:09.330 --> 00:13:13.919 word. Right, but I think in many cases if they didn't feel they 172 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:20.840 if there was another choice that to them was, I say, easier, 173 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:26.519 but but would keep them from having to do it. I don't think anyone 174 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:31.549 goes there with joy, right, saying I can't wait to get an abortion. 175 00:13:31.629 --> 00:13:37.230 Yeah, right, yeah, I agree. So and then I then 176 00:13:37.269 --> 00:13:41.620 I described that what we're there offering, that were offering the hope and love 177 00:13:41.700 --> 00:13:45.220 of Jesus. You all know, if you've heard the podcast, you know 178 00:13:45.299 --> 00:13:48.899 the sorts of things that we offer, but all the resources. Talked about 179 00:13:48.940 --> 00:13:54.899 a little bit about the truth, about the development of the baby, and 180 00:13:54.100 --> 00:14:01.129 and then as I'm listing off all the things that we do, including the 181 00:14:01.210 --> 00:14:05.610 baby shower, the optician chimed in then and said, so you don't just 182 00:14:05.889 --> 00:14:13.000 tell people don't do this, you tell them don't do this and will help 183 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:18.159 you. Yeah, I loved that, how she summarized it that way, 184 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:26.470 because I that's what I love about our ministry. Yeah, is is that 185 00:14:26.950 --> 00:14:37.269 we aren't just protesting abortion or offering help and solutions so that people feel less 186 00:14:37.350 --> 00:14:39.860 inclined, yeah, to have an abortion. You know, I think in 187 00:14:39.980 --> 00:14:45.659 one sense, we did do a podcast about this some months ago, well, 188 00:14:46.059 --> 00:14:50.740 year ago maybe, about do we really need to meet their needs, 189 00:14:52.059 --> 00:14:54.250 or able to meet their needs, in order to be in front of the 190 00:14:54.289 --> 00:14:56.090 abortion centers telling them not to kill her children? And, of course, 191 00:14:56.970 --> 00:15:01.809 if we had nothing to offer them, if we had no resources, no 192 00:15:01.889 --> 00:15:05.769 baby showers, none of that stuff, we could still, we would still 193 00:15:05.769 --> 00:15:09.720 be perfectly justified into and saying don't kill your child. Right, right, 194 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:11.639 because, after all, it is murder. Yeah, it's like when someone's 195 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:15.879 about to kill they're two year old. You don't have to be willing to 196 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:20.519 adopt the two year old in order for them to to listen to what you're 197 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:22.070 saying, right, and you'd be able to be justified in telling them not 198 00:15:22.110 --> 00:15:24.870 to kill their two year old. So in the same way, however, 199 00:15:26.389 --> 00:15:31.190 it does really help in these conversations, and maybe it's maybe it's I don't 200 00:15:31.230 --> 00:15:35.509 know, a fig leaf that we used to make ourselves look, I guess, 201 00:15:35.629 --> 00:15:37.220 better in their eyes. So I guess we need to examine our hearts 202 00:15:37.259 --> 00:15:41.220 on that level. But what it does do, I think, is it 203 00:15:41.340 --> 00:15:45.659 dispels this notion in these lies. It's kind of like that first Peter's scripture, 204 00:15:45.820 --> 00:15:48.139 so that we're not slandered, because we're slandered as saying your pro birth, 205 00:15:48.620 --> 00:15:52.850 yeah, right, that's the slanders accusation. Your pro birth, yeah, 206 00:15:52.009 --> 00:15:56.090 when these resources and things that we give after they're born proves that to 207 00:15:56.169 --> 00:16:00.529 be wrong. So it's not just a fig leaf, it's it's a reality 208 00:16:00.649 --> 00:16:03.799 too. As believers in Jesus, we are not called to only speak the 209 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:07.600 truth, you know, John Says First, John Says, if you love 210 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:12.240 your brotherren word only, but not indeed, then it's not true love. 211 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:15.519 Right. So we're supposed to love indeed, and we that's part of these 212 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:19.590 resources and all of that. Yeah, loving these these babies, yeah, 213 00:16:19.629 --> 00:16:26.309 these maps as well. You makes such a good point and and you, 214 00:16:26.830 --> 00:16:30.830 you were the first person that I think, I probably ever heard that stated 215 00:16:30.470 --> 00:16:37.539 so well. That made me really think about he's right. They don't. 216 00:16:37.700 --> 00:16:41.940 It is why I'm attracted to now love life ministry is because we do offer 217 00:16:41.220 --> 00:16:48.049 resources in addition of the Gospel. But I have come to feel very strongly 218 00:16:48.250 --> 00:16:52.970 that if I had nothing to offer, say I was traveling and all I 219 00:16:52.090 --> 00:16:56.690 could offer with Jesus was Jesus and his truth in his word, I I 220 00:16:56.889 --> 00:17:03.079 should and I'm definitely justified in doing that. But our ministry, Biblically, 221 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:08.559 I believe, offers resources. The parable of the Good Samaritan. Yes, 222 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:17.109 our guiding principle. Well, that's not just sharing God, that's finding someone 223 00:17:17.150 --> 00:17:22.069 who's wounded and dying and on a path of destruction and getting them out of 224 00:17:22.109 --> 00:17:26.549 that ditch. Yeah, and and helping them and providing tangible help. So, 225 00:17:26.829 --> 00:17:33.099 and in fact, what I did next was tell that parable. I 226 00:17:33.259 --> 00:17:37.500 said this is what our ministry is based upon. Yeah, and and resent 227 00:17:37.259 --> 00:17:41.380 not knowing with ours talking to believers or not. And I mean most people 228 00:17:41.420 --> 00:17:44.609 have heard that parable, but there are people that haven't that I've come across. 229 00:17:44.690 --> 00:17:48.490 And I told that parable and and explained each section of it and how 230 00:17:48.609 --> 00:17:52.009 it relates to what we do out there on a sidewalk. And as I'm 231 00:17:52.089 --> 00:18:00.480 sharing that, I was beginning to see a transformation in my audience because they're 232 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:08.200 I think they began to see that exactly what you said. Being a Christian 233 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:15.990 is not just saying thou shall not, but then offering help in the name 234 00:18:17.029 --> 00:18:22.430 of Jesus and showing the love of God tangibly through how we help others. 235 00:18:23.069 --> 00:18:27.740 And I think that's a that's a really a positive picture. Yeah, that 236 00:18:27.900 --> 00:18:36.700 you're painting at that point. So they they started to clearly, I think 237 00:18:36.819 --> 00:18:41.299 they were listening. They're leaning in and those women who weren't looking at me 238 00:18:41.339 --> 00:18:45.849 are now looking at me and what I could kind of feel going through their 239 00:18:45.970 --> 00:18:52.730 head was maybe if someone had offered help to me, maybe I might not 240 00:18:52.849 --> 00:18:56.680 have done it. Yeah, I have heard that. Yeah, have you 241 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:00.599 at the that I've heard that specifically, but I have at one point. 242 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:06.000 One story that comes to mind. I was I was in the barbershop and 243 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:07.720 get my hair cut. Is Actually Walmart, I guess, the barbershop and 244 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.910 Walmart in this young lady was cutting my hair and she asked me the question. 245 00:19:11.990 --> 00:19:15.789 I may even had cities for life at that time, t shirt own 246 00:19:15.829 --> 00:19:19.150 or something like that. Yeah, and I there I am in the Barber 247 00:19:19.230 --> 00:19:23.299 Chere. You gotta really are right and take that long to cut my hair. 248 00:19:23.380 --> 00:19:26.819 But okay, I had some time and they're sort of a captive audience 249 00:19:26.859 --> 00:19:30.859 and I'm going to pay the money to do this anyway, so they have 250 00:19:30.940 --> 00:19:33.019 to listen to what I have to say. So she asked me what I 251 00:19:33.059 --> 00:19:37.650 do and I shared with her what I do and she she broke down right 252 00:19:37.730 --> 00:19:41.289 there in the barber shop. She shared about how she'd had an abortion. 253 00:19:41.650 --> 00:19:45.849 Wow, like eight years ago. Yeah, like eight years ago. Yeah, 254 00:19:45.170 --> 00:19:48.890 at that point in this was a couple of years. So anyway, 255 00:19:48.130 --> 00:19:52.359 and she said specifically she had a child after she had the abortion, but 256 00:19:52.519 --> 00:20:00.079 she said she's still grieves over that baby that she killed and she still sees 257 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.720 that empty spot at the table. So she said specifically. And what that 258 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:10.069 did? Was it opened for you or for anyone who takes the plunge in 259 00:20:10.190 --> 00:20:15.950 these conversations to then share healing. Yeah, yeah, it's absolute it. 260 00:20:15.109 --> 00:20:21.029 It created an opportunity that you would otherwise never have had. Yes, that 261 00:20:21.150 --> 00:20:22.619 woman, and would anyone have had? You know, it seems to me 262 00:20:22.740 --> 00:20:26.299 like a really divine appointment. I was absolutely a divine appointment. I got 263 00:20:26.299 --> 00:20:30.460 two minister to her. Yep, I think she had become a believer, 264 00:20:30.619 --> 00:20:33.339 which is why she was so open about it. For again, it's been 265 00:20:33.380 --> 00:20:37.130 some years since that situation kind of played out. Yeah, but from what 266 00:20:37.170 --> 00:20:41.329 I recollect she had become a believer in Jesus, which is why she was 267 00:20:41.450 --> 00:20:45.130 really open about it and really sharing right there in the barbershop. And there 268 00:20:45.130 --> 00:20:48.849 are other people around and all of that. Are they all listening to? 269 00:20:48.369 --> 00:20:52.039 I mean, I'm sure they listening. So I mean there you've got it. 270 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:56.079 Your your you're not only ministering to her, your ministering to the whole 271 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:00.640 group of people that are listening. Yeah, and and learning, which is, 272 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:07.950 I think, another really important point. When these opportunities arise, don't 273 00:21:07.750 --> 00:21:12.990 shrink from them, don't shrink back, because you never know where it might 274 00:21:14.029 --> 00:21:18.900 lead. An earlier conversation that very day in that office, which I was 275 00:21:18.019 --> 00:21:23.660 not a part of this group of five, but when I was talking about 276 00:21:23.700 --> 00:21:27.819 my work and someone did same thing, said she had had an abortion. 277 00:21:29.140 --> 00:21:33.650 She still regretted it and the sorrow and and I talked about where to find 278 00:21:33.690 --> 00:21:37.930 healing, first in Christ and then the program some programs where you could find 279 00:21:37.930 --> 00:21:47.200 healing again. Never would have had that conversation if someone didn't ask me what 280 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:49.640 it is that I do. Yeah, and I wasn't able or willing to 281 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:56.559 respond fully or even with just that first response, which was pretty straightforward. 282 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:00.799 But had I ended there, and that was one of the points I wanted 283 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:03.869 to really make in this podcast, if I had ended with that first sentence, 284 00:22:04.710 --> 00:22:11.309 with their faces fallen, they clearly just felt nothing but hostility and shame, 285 00:22:11.630 --> 00:22:18.140 grief whatever. If I had left it there, think of the repercussions 286 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:25.539 of that as opposed was to what did happen. Yeah, so then, 287 00:22:26.220 --> 00:22:34.970 after talking about the parable of the Good Samaritan and and the optician making her 288 00:22:36.130 --> 00:22:41.089 point, you you help them, then they, the two who had backed 289 00:22:41.130 --> 00:22:45.440 off, started handing me glasses to try on and saying tried these, these 290 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.599 would go well with your work, and it was like they had come full 291 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.480 circle to let's even help her. Right. Yeah, so it was. 292 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:57.559 It was really it'll bet you there we was after you walked out of the 293 00:22:57.589 --> 00:23:02.789 door, their magical conversations. Imagine the discussion after I walked out the door. 294 00:23:03.630 --> 00:23:11.869 So it was such a wonderful experience, which these conversations don't always end 295 00:23:11.910 --> 00:23:15.900 there. No, oftentimes they don't, but in in that case it opened 296 00:23:15.940 --> 00:23:22.420 up so much that it really made me glad that I had told them what 297 00:23:22.579 --> 00:23:26.220 I what. I really what I really do. I do. Sometimes what 298 00:23:26.339 --> 00:23:30.369 can happen, and I'm sure I've done this. I can't think of particular 299 00:23:30.410 --> 00:23:34.490 situation when I have. But when we try to like, well, I 300 00:23:34.569 --> 00:23:40.410 guess I'll say when we have to give a defense, we actually, instead 301 00:23:40.410 --> 00:23:41.680 of that, kind of go on the offense, you know, because it 302 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:47.039 says here we should be ready to make a defense and out of our own 303 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:51.960 kind of, I guess, I don't know, anxiety over trying to explain, 304 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:55.910 we'll go into offensive mode rather than defensive mode where we'll just come right 305 00:23:55.910 --> 00:23:57.750 out of the gate. And what do you do? Well, people are 306 00:23:57.789 --> 00:24:00.670 murdering their children. So, you know, we kind of go on the 307 00:24:00.750 --> 00:24:03.269 offense and just go after and just go after every objection they might have. 308 00:24:03.470 --> 00:24:07.269 Yeah, when in reality they're just asking what we do. So one of 309 00:24:07.309 --> 00:24:11.140 the things we don't want to do in these situations, because it's about being 310 00:24:11.180 --> 00:24:12.579 a witness for Jesus, right, is it? We don't want to just 311 00:24:12.779 --> 00:24:18.980 unload on people and just unload, you know, all of the numbers and 312 00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:22.700 Statistics and all of that. I think you can, you have provoke a 313 00:24:22.779 --> 00:24:27.369 really good conversation and give a really good defense and be willing and able and 314 00:24:27.529 --> 00:24:32.529 ready to share those numbers and Statistics and all that other stuff. But we 315 00:24:32.609 --> 00:24:36.130 don't want to kind of get an offensive Moor. We just unload on someone 316 00:24:36.690 --> 00:24:38.920 when they ask what we do exactly. Be kind of almost like this, 317 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.279 I don't know, this kind of psychological thing, even our own mind out 318 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.759 of our own anxiety and we don't really want to share what we do, 319 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.079 but let's just go ahead and get it out there. Well, we've been 320 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:56.150 attacked for it so many times a sidewalk and so we're it's kind of a 321 00:24:56.190 --> 00:25:00.230 natural response. But you sparked the actually where it where it ended that I 322 00:25:00.750 --> 00:25:03.750 forgot about. The very ending of that discussion then, was I shared a 323 00:25:03.910 --> 00:25:07.539 story, which we shared, I think, on our last podcast, about 324 00:25:07.539 --> 00:25:12.579 the grandma who returned eight years after her grandchild had been saved from abortion at 325 00:25:12.619 --> 00:25:17.380 the at that very abortion center and came back to tell us and to thank 326 00:25:17.460 --> 00:25:21.529 us and just to say that kid in the back seat wouldn't be here today 327 00:25:21.529 --> 00:25:23.769 if you guys hadn't been there. That was when they started handing me the 328 00:25:23.849 --> 00:25:30.769 glasses. I forgot about that. But having a story that demonstrates than the 329 00:25:32.049 --> 00:25:37.759 results. Yeah, of what you've done can really be very powerful. Yeah, 330 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.799 absolutely. Yes, stories, people can connect with stories. You can 331 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:47.319 give a defense all day long with statistics and all that other stuff, and 332 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:52.029 I'm not saying that's not good, but really, people's hearts connect with stories. 333 00:25:52.269 --> 00:25:56.789 Yeah, and that's a biblical concept. I actually you see Jesus, 334 00:25:56.190 --> 00:26:00.430 he doesn't just give numbers and Statistics and just rebuke the Pharisees right out. 335 00:26:00.549 --> 00:26:04.980 He does that for sure, but he'll give a story that kind of shows 336 00:26:06.019 --> 00:26:08.900 the hypocrisy of the Pharisees or whatever other point he's trying to make. You 337 00:26:08.980 --> 00:26:12.500 know, sewing seed. He gives a story of the sower of seeds, 338 00:26:12.539 --> 00:26:18.369 right. Yeah, so sharing real life stories or even personal testimonies. I 339 00:26:18.369 --> 00:26:22.369 mean you have a personal testimony in the area of abortion. Yeah, I 340 00:26:22.450 --> 00:26:26.769 have a personal testimony in the area of unplanned pregnancy, right. Are Quote, 341 00:26:26.809 --> 00:26:30.049 unplanned pregnancy? Yeah, and so I'll share that. I'll share the 342 00:26:30.170 --> 00:26:36.200 story of me being seventeen, my girlfriend fifteen and just the blessing that our 343 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:40.559 daughter is and how I couldn't imagine what if we'd would have aborted, like 344 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:44.279 I certainly, yeah, had that in my mind and thank God we didn't 345 00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:48.750 go that direction. Yeah, and so kind of equating that with the people 346 00:26:48.789 --> 00:26:51.589 that we encounter, were able to minister. One of the things I'll share. 347 00:26:51.589 --> 00:26:53.630 I'm able to minister to those young men, my wife is able to 348 00:26:53.710 --> 00:26:57.470 minister to the those young ladies. And, of course, sharing about the 349 00:26:57.509 --> 00:27:02.259 mobile Dr Soun you is really powerful too, because people don't imagine, because 350 00:27:02.299 --> 00:27:06.180 they do have this this vein, it's a vein imagination in their minds when 351 00:27:06.180 --> 00:27:08.299 you tell them you go out to an abortion center, here's yelling at people 352 00:27:08.339 --> 00:27:11.420 and all this. So when I lay out all the resources and the fact 353 00:27:11.420 --> 00:27:17.210 that we park a mobile pregnancy center in front of the abortion center, it 354 00:27:17.329 --> 00:27:19.329 lets people know, like we're serious about this thing. This is just some 355 00:27:19.450 --> 00:27:23.970 Ragtag Group of people, but this is a serious, concerted effort to really 356 00:27:25.009 --> 00:27:27.769 help these these women and save babies. Yeah, and bring the Gospel, 357 00:27:27.849 --> 00:27:32.920 yeah, that place of darkness. Yeah, and then talking about, depending 358 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.079 on the amount of time you have, but but that the church is being 359 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:40.359 mobilized and being this is not just the efforts of people out on a sidewalk, 360 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:48.309 but whole churches who are now stepping up to support women who would ordinarily 361 00:27:48.349 --> 00:27:52.869 run to the abortion center. And hopefully now will turn to the church, 362 00:27:52.990 --> 00:27:56.069 and the church is saying we will no longer because I think we have in 363 00:27:56.190 --> 00:28:03.299 the past just condemned, but we will offer hope, help and love. 364 00:28:03.740 --> 00:28:07.619 Yeah, and and embrace you. Yeah, and help to not that we 365 00:28:07.700 --> 00:28:11.890 want to leave you as someone who thinks sex, high side of marriage or 366 00:28:11.890 --> 00:28:17.490 abortion are either valid choices for a Christian. They should not be. But 367 00:28:18.849 --> 00:28:23.529 hopefully the love and fellowship and embracing by the Church will lead them to a 368 00:28:25.049 --> 00:28:30.799 greater relationship with God and in obedience to God. Yeah. So, so 369 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.000 there were some things that I thought of as I was like recapping in my 370 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.480 mind that story, because it went well. Yeah, and so I do 371 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.549 always try to analyze, not only when things have gone terribly. What did 372 00:28:42.549 --> 00:28:47.630 I do wrong? What could I have done better, but I also was 373 00:28:47.869 --> 00:28:52.269 thinking about, well, what were some things that I did this time that 374 00:28:52.789 --> 00:28:56.700 maybe I don't always do when these kinds of stories don't end as well, 375 00:28:57.140 --> 00:29:00.660 right, and and so I wrote down some bullet points. But the the 376 00:29:00.819 --> 00:29:04.180 first one was just to be bold and confident. I, like I said, 377 00:29:04.180 --> 00:29:07.059 I felt trepidation when I started. I was like, Oh, brother, 378 00:29:07.220 --> 00:29:11.769 here we go again. But when I started speaking honestly, the Holy 379 00:29:11.809 --> 00:29:17.930 Spirit does take over, but also I believe in what I do. I 380 00:29:18.130 --> 00:29:25.839 believe what we do is so important and valuable and God ordained and we should 381 00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:30.480 express that. We should, instead of apologetically or, like in the point 382 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:34.480 you made, angrily answering the question, just with bold confidence, the same 383 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:40.349 way we counsel the MOMS. Go forth with with bold confidence. Yeah, 384 00:29:40.950 --> 00:29:48.309 I purposely did not use the word murder because I knew that that's an inflammatory 385 00:29:48.349 --> 00:29:52.630 word, right, and that that might right away put up a wall in 386 00:29:52.829 --> 00:29:56.619 what they were able to hear from me. So I softened it, right, 387 00:29:56.900 --> 00:30:03.900 and I use the word abortion as opposed to kill your baby. Then 388 00:30:04.900 --> 00:30:12.410 talking about what we do in terms of the resources, right, and presenting 389 00:30:12.529 --> 00:30:19.130 those so that they say they they're looking at us in a more compassionate light. 390 00:30:19.609 --> 00:30:22.359 Right. Yeah, it's certain things right, like they actually are, 391 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.640 like we're out there out of compassion, just out there to be judging and 392 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:33.079 condeming people or angry protesting or whatever. Right. Yeah, that was to 393 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.990 spell those false notions, right. Yeah, using the biblical support. As 394 00:30:38.069 --> 00:30:41.269 you're talking, you may or may not be talking to Christians, right, 395 00:30:41.509 --> 00:30:45.789 but it is an opportunity then to give the reason for the hope that is 396 00:30:45.910 --> 00:30:52.539 in us like that. Those verses in Peter talked about that. And it's 397 00:30:52.660 --> 00:30:57.140 the Gospel, it's Jesus and sharing the truth of why we're doing there from 398 00:30:57.180 --> 00:31:00.940 a biblical perspective. Right. Yeah, even if you don't. My sister 399 00:31:02.099 --> 00:31:03.769 is not a believer, but she knows that I do it out of a 400 00:31:03.890 --> 00:31:10.250 conviction, that I've been biblically commanded to do what I do, and she 401 00:31:10.529 --> 00:31:15.650 really respects that, that I'm following my convictions biblically, and I think that's 402 00:31:15.690 --> 00:31:19.960 true of some people anyway that you speak to. If you give the biblical 403 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:25.559 reason and you might be planted. You definitely are planning seeds every time you 404 00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:33.190 use biblical support. Yeah, so, and then the the specific stories that 405 00:31:33.430 --> 00:31:40.029 like what you said, telling a story that shows the positive work that we 406 00:31:40.150 --> 00:31:45.869 do is really important. Remembering also what I recognized early on, which I 407 00:31:45.990 --> 00:31:48.420 don't know that people who aren't on a sidewalk would recognize this, but that 408 00:31:49.460 --> 00:31:56.220 so many of your audience are post abortive and and speaking with the gentleness and 409 00:31:56.380 --> 00:32:02.970 compassion at that, you would towards anyone who is struggling with something they've done 410 00:32:02.970 --> 00:32:10.089 in their past which I believe every abortion minded or post board of woman is 411 00:32:10.369 --> 00:32:15.839 is struggling. Those were kind of those were some of the major things that 412 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:22.119 came to me that I felt had probably made that conversation go better than it 413 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:28.559 always does. Yeah, maybe it'll guide others when they're tackling these conversations. 414 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.069 Yeah, absolutely. I think one of the things that I would mention here 415 00:32:31.309 --> 00:32:36.509 is the the scripture. You you kind of base this thing on which is 416 00:32:36.630 --> 00:32:38.990 give a defense for the hope that laws in us. Yeah, is not 417 00:32:39.269 --> 00:32:45.059 just in these conversations, giving a defense for our pro life convince actions, 418 00:32:45.299 --> 00:32:50.019 or giving a defense for the work that we do or are, what our 419 00:32:50.059 --> 00:32:52.859 job or vocation is. Yeah, but really giving a defense of the Gospel. 420 00:32:52.900 --> 00:32:57.019 Right, right, because why we do what we do is because we're 421 00:32:57.059 --> 00:32:59.970 born of God. If I was not born of God, I could care 422 00:33:00.009 --> 00:33:04.250 less about, you know, other people, especially unborn children, people I 423 00:33:04.329 --> 00:33:07.089 can't see. Yeah, it's because of the power of the Gospel, and 424 00:33:07.210 --> 00:33:10.490 so I think taking the opportunity, whenever you are able to and you have 425 00:33:10.609 --> 00:33:14.759 the time to do it, to share the Gospel, to share what Jesus 426 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.759 Christ is done, to share about his death, Bury and Resurrection, just 427 00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:22.240 the Plain Gospel and then, especially if you've got people that are post abhorative, 428 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.789 yeah, to share with them the hope that they can have in Jesus, 429 00:33:28.109 --> 00:33:30.750 right, and so taking the opportunity to share the Gospel, letting the 430 00:33:31.029 --> 00:33:36.430 work that we do be a Spring Board for the Gospel, is a powerful 431 00:33:36.430 --> 00:33:38.549 way to kind of turn this whole thing around, right, and give us 432 00:33:39.589 --> 00:33:45.339 even more opportunities to share even beyond the sidewalker. Yeah. Yeah, so 433 00:33:45.460 --> 00:33:51.099 I hope and I believe that we have kind of made a case for don't 434 00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:55.089 shrink away right there. Right, so these from these questions, drink away 435 00:33:55.210 --> 00:34:01.009 like I do sometimes. I truthfully, I do shrink away sometimes. Say 436 00:34:01.089 --> 00:34:06.369 they're there is discernment and wisdom. There are. There are definitely times when, 437 00:34:06.769 --> 00:34:09.440 no, it is just not appropriate for you to be going into a 438 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:14.400 very long defense, yeah, of what you do, but I think more 439 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.679 often than not there is an opportunity and I just am a little bit afraid 440 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:23.000 of of entering. Yeah, yeah, we don't want to do is fall 441 00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:27.789 into the trap of the fear of Man, right, we want to fear 442 00:34:27.869 --> 00:34:31.309 the Lord First. Yeah, but then even within that, use wisdom. 443 00:34:31.750 --> 00:34:35.829 I mean, you're checking out in the grocery store and somebody ask you about 444 00:34:35.829 --> 00:34:38.619 your t shirt, right, you can't give a quick little plug. Yeah, 445 00:34:38.900 --> 00:34:42.219 what you do, but you want to get in this long I mean 446 00:34:42.260 --> 00:34:45.619 you don't not be holding up the whole line behind you. People taked off 447 00:34:45.699 --> 00:34:47.900 at you right as your start. Even Genesis one one, and we're gay, 448 00:34:47.900 --> 00:34:52.730 exactly revelations. Use Wisdom, Y, bold, be confidentiss in the 449 00:34:52.769 --> 00:34:58.449 work that you do on the sidewalk is life saving work. Yeah, who 450 00:34:58.489 --> 00:35:00.530 will stand in the gap? You've said you will. You've stood in that 451 00:35:00.610 --> 00:35:05.610 gap on that frontline. You've likely learned, with some of the friction and 452 00:35:05.730 --> 00:35:08.960 some of the tension that you get out there, that you can actually stand 453 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:13.679 bold, you can be strong and courageous in the power of the Holy Spirit. 454 00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:15.840 You can do that on the sidewalk. And, if so, you 455 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.719 can do that, yeah, at the barbershop, at the hairdresser. That's 456 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.510 a grocery store. optician. Have the optician. Yes. So, guys, 457 00:35:22.670 --> 00:35:25.190 we want to encourage you again. The work that you're doing is life 458 00:35:25.309 --> 00:35:30.750 saving. It's soul saving. God uses you to save souls and two saves 459 00:35:30.829 --> 00:35:36.739 lives. It's amazing. It's an amazing privilege. You have no reason to 460 00:35:36.860 --> 00:35:40.579 be ashamed at all at what you do. Should be very happy that the 461 00:35:40.699 --> 00:35:45.940 Lord has privileged you with this charge to be a voice for the voiceless. 462 00:35:45.380 --> 00:35:50.769 So keep that up, guys, and if you need further encouragement, I 463 00:35:50.929 --> 00:35:53.809 encourage you to reach out to us. Daniel Love Life Dot Org. Vicky, 464 00:35:53.889 --> 00:35:58.570 I love Life Dot Org. We'd love to share with you any other 465 00:35:58.730 --> 00:36:01.730 pointers or tips or our experiences if we're able to. We're pretty busy these 466 00:36:01.769 --> 00:36:05.039 days, but we certainly try to get back to you. If you shoot 467 00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:07.800 us over an email. If you've got other subjects, that would be a 468 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.519 blessing for us to cover for you. We'd love to do that as well. 469 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:14.199 So shoot us over an email. Leave us a review. 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