Jan. 30, 2020

Empowering Vs. Enabling (Part 1)- Ministering to Abortion Minded Women

Empowering Vs. Enabling (Part 1)- Ministering to Abortion Minded Women

There's a fine line between empowering abortion-minded women by the help we give and enabling them in destructive behavior. The Bible has some practical principles that will help us all avoid the pitfalls of enabling destructive behavior in those to...


There's a fine line between empowering abortion-minded women by the help we give and enabling them in destructive behavior. The Bible has some practical principles that will help us all avoid the pitfalls of enabling destructive behavior in those to whom we minister. Join us for this two-part podcast as we look at what the scripture has to say.

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Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.799 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. Send Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.390 Lord, I am. You're welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. 3 00:00:10.509 --> 00:00:13.710 These next two episodes are going to be a two part series on dealing with 4 00:00:13.750 --> 00:00:19.390 abortion minded women and empowering versus enabling. Is An important subject in Christian ministry, 5 00:00:19.429 --> 00:00:31.820 so stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use 6 00:00:33.539 --> 00:00:38.770 Welcome to the Gospel Center per life podcast. We're going to talk about empowering 7 00:00:38.890 --> 00:00:45.250 versus enabling when ministering too abortion minded women. We hope this will be a 8 00:00:45.530 --> 00:00:48.250 two part that we won't stretch it out too long, because we think it 9 00:00:48.329 --> 00:00:51.479 will be pretty long if we do it in one part. So we're going 10 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:55.079 to try to cut it up into two parts and and really deal with, 11 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:58.359 you know, the spiritual side of this and then the practical side to it, 12 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:00.240 and we'll touch on those two as we get through the whole thing. 13 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.549 But I think the first part will be more dealing with the spiritual, scriptural 14 00:01:03.549 --> 00:01:07.629 side of it and then the practical side will be in the second part. 15 00:01:08.230 --> 00:01:12.829 And this is Yo really speaking a lot from experience, from the experience we've 16 00:01:12.870 --> 00:01:18.659 had a sidewalk counselors and minister into abortion minded women and how we've fallen into 17 00:01:18.700 --> 00:01:23.140 the trap of enabling rather than empowering and we've learned some things. Yeah, 18 00:01:23.260 --> 00:01:27.260 and you know, through mistakes. A lot of times that's how sometimes doing 19 00:01:27.340 --> 00:01:30.939 it right, sometimes right, sometimes not doing it so so right. But 20 00:01:32.019 --> 00:01:36.810 the Lord is very gracious in the way that he teaches us and then redeems 21 00:01:36.930 --> 00:01:41.290 things where we make mistakes. But with any within any ministry. Now this 22 00:01:41.450 --> 00:01:46.129 particularly focused on prolife ministry, you know, pregnancy center ministry. It maybe 23 00:01:46.170 --> 00:01:49.959 even maternity home ministries, course, sidewalk counseling ministries, but really in any 24 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:53.439 ministry that you're involved in. I mean people will tell you within homeless ministries, 25 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.519 within you know, dealing with domestic abuse situation, whatever ministry that you're 26 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:01.150 in, whatever you know, organization, nonprofit sort of thing that you're in, 27 00:02:01.230 --> 00:02:07.550 when you're dealing with people, there's going to be this empowering versus enabling. 28 00:02:07.590 --> 00:02:12.750 I mean we all want to empower people to be what God wants them 29 00:02:12.830 --> 00:02:15.699 to be, what God has called them to be, but we all can 30 00:02:15.780 --> 00:02:20.860 fall in to the trap of enabling and we'll see that biblically that there's some 31 00:02:20.939 --> 00:02:23.979 people in the Bible who have fallen into that trap or who you know are 32 00:02:24.020 --> 00:02:28.060 the ones that set the trap? I guess you could say in the name 33 00:02:28.139 --> 00:02:30.090 and love, in the name of love, and you know that is you 34 00:02:30.169 --> 00:02:34.289 know, that's what we're called to do. We're called to love right. 35 00:02:34.689 --> 00:02:38.969 As a matter of fact, Jesus said by this they will know that you're 36 00:02:38.969 --> 00:02:42.490 my disciples for the love that you have for each other. Right, Bible 37 00:02:42.569 --> 00:02:46.719 tells us, and First John, that God is love. Like the very 38 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:50.800 nature of God is defined with love. Now, of course, later on 39 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:53.759 the Hebrews, or before that, and Hebrews that says God is a consuming 40 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:57.759 fire, but but he's also love. That's like, you know. And 41 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.590 so as Christians we the love of God, the Bible says, has been 42 00:03:00.629 --> 00:03:04.030 shed abroad in our hearts. So we want to love people, but but 43 00:03:04.150 --> 00:03:09.349 often times or sometimes we fall into the trap of is really just kind of 44 00:03:09.469 --> 00:03:14.979 this emotional love rather than actually loving people. So let's dive into this thing. 45 00:03:15.580 --> 00:03:17.699 You've got an article that you wrote and we hope to be able to 46 00:03:17.780 --> 00:03:22.139 link this article, if we get it out on the sidewalks for life site 47 00:03:22.259 --> 00:03:24.460 in time, to be able to put it with this podcast. It's one 48 00:03:24.500 --> 00:03:30.090 of the parts of this podcast where you're talking about compassion verslain eight versus enabling, 49 00:03:30.210 --> 00:03:34.569 or empowering versus enabling. So jump into that article. You wrote this 50 00:03:34.650 --> 00:03:38.129 article. This is from some experience that you've heard. Yeah, and not 51 00:03:38.250 --> 00:03:43.159 just one experience. We've all experienced this. Yeah, and anyway. So 52 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:45.560 we want to empower you, want to help you, guys. That's why 53 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:47.560 we're going to Vicki's are written this article and put it out and that's what 54 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:51.080 we're talking about in the podcast. So yea been yeah, so I thought 55 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:53.800 I would be good to start with a case study. Okay, I'm not 56 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:57.270 going to name any names, I'm not going to give specifics that will allow 57 00:03:57.349 --> 00:04:00.069 anyone to identify this woman, but this is a an actual person that that 58 00:04:01.550 --> 00:04:05.229 I have worked with, yeah, and and others have worked with, and 59 00:04:05.389 --> 00:04:10.819 so I'll just give you a kind of an overview of this woman. She 60 00:04:12.060 --> 00:04:16.379 she came to us and chose life, yeah, and was in pretty desperate 61 00:04:16.500 --> 00:04:25.610 circumstances in every area, and so we gave her really resources that assisted her 62 00:04:25.649 --> 00:04:30.529 in every area. Like we we gave the mentorship program through Love Life Charlotte. 63 00:04:30.529 --> 00:04:32.170 So we gave her mentor that was going to guide and help and be 64 00:04:32.290 --> 00:04:38.879 a friend. We we gave her a baby shower. They gave the first 65 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:43.800 full two years of equipment and close that that baby would need. We helped 66 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:50.160 her pay outstanding bills through actually another sister ministry. We got her involved in 67 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:57.269 a program that gave parenting help and child care in a wonderful residential program, 68 00:04:57.389 --> 00:05:02.670 so she didn't have to worry about anything. Yeah, we helped her secure 69 00:05:02.670 --> 00:05:08.180 a safe apartment. We helped with gas cards, grocery cards, phone bills, 70 00:05:08.899 --> 00:05:14.420 discipleship and spiritual counseling. And she had a good job. She had 71 00:05:14.459 --> 00:05:17.899 gotten that herself, although we did help her clean up her resume. Yeah, 72 00:05:18.579 --> 00:05:23.009 so really, there isn't a whole lot more you could do for someone. 73 00:05:23.290 --> 00:05:29.370 We had truly kind of given her a chance at a brand new start. 74 00:05:29.529 --> 00:05:33.649 She recommitted, or maybe for the first time, committed her life to 75 00:05:33.730 --> 00:05:41.240 the Lord. It seemed to be firm and sincere, and so she was, 76 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:45.480 you know, kind of our poster child and she was on the path 77 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:49.470 to this great new beginning. Right. And then, after a few months, 78 00:05:50.389 --> 00:05:57.470 the old patterns began to re emerge, the same terrible choices, the 79 00:05:57.750 --> 00:06:01.670 same sinful lifestyle. Yeah, that had kind of put her in this mess 80 00:06:01.829 --> 00:06:10.300 in the first place and our world crumbled again. She cried, she repented, 81 00:06:10.660 --> 00:06:15.740 she came to us and requested additional help and and we did help. 82 00:06:15.980 --> 00:06:19.209 Again. We, I think, not only are we called to be loving 83 00:06:19.329 --> 00:06:26.370 and to give, but sacrificial giving is is a definitely a biblical concept, 84 00:06:26.850 --> 00:06:31.879 and so so we we gave again and again. She she said all the 85 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:41.079 right things, she initially did all the right behaviors that indicated that there was 86 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:49.110 change, and and then her actions kind of showed that this was not the 87 00:06:49.269 --> 00:06:54.509 case. She began to fall back again the same pattern of you know, 88 00:06:54.589 --> 00:06:57.110 it's kind of the pattern in the Bible, isn't it? We love the 89 00:06:57.230 --> 00:07:02.459 issuelites and turning to God and crying out in their despair and then God helps 90 00:07:02.500 --> 00:07:05.860 them and then they had them back to they turn right back to the same 91 00:07:05.980 --> 00:07:09.379 stuff and then they cry out to God in their despair, and that's what 92 00:07:09.459 --> 00:07:14.779 we were seeing. Yeah, and and it wasn't just our ministry but another 93 00:07:14.899 --> 00:07:18.730 ministry that had been involved with her that said this is what they had faced 94 00:07:18.810 --> 00:07:24.769 as well. Yeah, so that's kind of what what actually sparked the idea 95 00:07:24.970 --> 00:07:31.759 of this article and this podcast was. When do you know it happens, 96 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:35.160 it happens a lot, where where you have helped someone, you have truly, 97 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:42.439 you thought, empowered them on a good path, a path towards God 98 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:48.189 and self independence and and following the Lord and making good choices, and then 99 00:07:48.230 --> 00:07:53.709 you find out, well, you didn't, you kind of enabled them into 100 00:07:53.829 --> 00:07:57.189 dependence, that the goal was always you know that kind of old adage. 101 00:07:57.310 --> 00:08:00.819 It's better to teach someone to fish than to give them a fish, right, 102 00:08:00.980 --> 00:08:03.980 teach them to get fishing themselves, and that's that's what we want to 103 00:08:05.060 --> 00:08:09.259 do, right. We want to to teach these women how to be good 104 00:08:09.300 --> 00:08:11.220 mothers and all these things. Would get plug into programs that teach them that 105 00:08:11.300 --> 00:08:15.569 stuff rather than just giving them some baby stuff and give them some money, 106 00:08:15.610 --> 00:08:18.009 right, or pay their bills or whatever. We want to know all those 107 00:08:18.129 --> 00:08:22.329 things. If we do those things, the end desires always that they could 108 00:08:22.329 --> 00:08:26.730 be solid on their feet. So that's always the the desire, right, 109 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:31.480 but that desires not always fulfilled. Yeah, for sure. And sometimes, 110 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:33.840 you know, again, we can, we can fall into the chap and 111 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:37.559 we you know, that's a hard line to try to figure out. Sometimes, 112 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:43.350 am I enabling or am I empowering? You know, just from personal 113 00:08:43.389 --> 00:08:48.750 experience, completely unrelated to this, because I've got some uncles that the don't 114 00:08:48.789 --> 00:08:54.350 do so well, right, they've not done so well their whole lives and, 115 00:08:54.990 --> 00:08:58.019 you know, gotten money off of parents and got money off of their 116 00:08:58.139 --> 00:09:00.940 you know, my grandparents and stuff like that. To uncle's, one on 117 00:09:01.019 --> 00:09:03.940 each side that, you know, have been as I look at they've been 118 00:09:03.980 --> 00:09:09.740 empowered. The other drug addicts and just problems and problems and problems. Well, 119 00:09:09.779 --> 00:09:11.889 they've been enabled. They've been enabled. Sorry that they didn't say I've 120 00:09:11.929 --> 00:09:15.450 not been empowered. Right, yeah, you've been enabled, and it's like, 121 00:09:15.769 --> 00:09:20.529 you know, I even had upper things that I've been asked to do 122 00:09:20.730 --> 00:09:22.809 to help them where I'm like, I don't want to enable and I'm just 123 00:09:24.009 --> 00:09:26.799 not going to. Yeah, but it is hard, especially, you know, 124 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.000 if it's a family member, but it's basically also if it's a woman 125 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:33.720 with children. You know, she's got other children, often times that's right, 126 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:37.960 and baby in her womb. Yeah, and it's like wow, how 127 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:41.750 in the world do I do I balance this without being an enabler but an 128 00:09:41.789 --> 00:09:46.629 empower you know, a lot of times guilt can drive us and that's one 129 00:09:46.629 --> 00:09:48.350 of the things that we tell our side wall counselors. We're training them, 130 00:09:48.830 --> 00:09:52.860 is it? No matter what you do, it cannot be driven by guilt. 131 00:09:52.980 --> 00:09:56.860 It has to be driven by God, by the use of God and 132 00:09:56.899 --> 00:09:58.899 by his truth and his word. Right, right. Yeah, and and 133 00:10:00.179 --> 00:10:03.179 you know, a lot of I don't know a lot, but some of 134 00:10:03.220 --> 00:10:07.690 the moms we work with our active addicts, yeah, or alcoholics or something. 135 00:10:07.769 --> 00:10:11.769 Yeah, that is addictive and and that's you know, and that that's 136 00:10:11.809 --> 00:10:20.850 a whole, a whole different layer of discernment between how do you help empower 137 00:10:20.049 --> 00:10:26.879 them versus enable them to just continue in a destructive life style. So so 138 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.960 the first thing to really think about is, well, what does the Bible 139 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:37.470 say about how we're to treat others? Because the Bible is clear. You, 140 00:10:37.909 --> 00:10:41.110 love is supreme. I mean it, it I I don't know if 141 00:10:41.110 --> 00:10:45.309 I want to use the word supreme because there are other truth is is certainly 142 00:10:45.350 --> 00:10:48.350 up there with love, but love is certain. We are to treat each 143 00:10:48.389 --> 00:10:54.820 other with love and and by our our love the world will know us and 144 00:10:54.179 --> 00:11:00.820 they will know that where the followers of Jesus. So so I have a 145 00:11:00.860 --> 00:11:05.850 few verses. Okay, and and so the the first one is Hebrews. 146 00:11:05.929 --> 00:11:11.009 One thousand three, UND sixteen. Okay, and do not neglect doing good 147 00:11:11.049 --> 00:11:16.970 and sharing, for with such sacrifices God is pleased. So we're did do 148 00:11:18.090 --> 00:11:20.440 good. Yeah, we're to share, and it's sacrificial. Yeah, absolutely, 149 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:26.279 okay. First John Seventeen. But if anyone sees the world's goods and 150 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:31.559 see says brother, I'm sorry, has the world's goods and sees his brother 151 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:37.029 in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide 152 00:11:37.070 --> 00:11:39.990 in him? Yeah, so we certainly don't want to be guilty of closing 153 00:11:39.029 --> 00:11:43.830 our now our hearts. No, and and some brother our love, our 154 00:11:43.950 --> 00:11:50.100 love, God's love abides when we open our heart that person who'say need, 155 00:11:50.179 --> 00:11:54.940 especially if we have the resources we have. The world's goods, it says 156 00:11:54.340 --> 00:11:58.779 Luke, Fifteen, twenty, he arose and came to his father. This 157 00:11:58.860 --> 00:12:03.610 is the prodigal son. Yeah, and this is the son who had wasted 158 00:12:03.769 --> 00:12:07.809 his father's fortune. And what does his father do? Does he kick him 159 00:12:07.809 --> 00:12:11.889 out and and say no, you scoundrel, get away. He says he 160 00:12:13.090 --> 00:12:16.639 felt compassion and ran and embraced him and kissed him and then welcome to him, 161 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.639 right back into his home and caring for his needs and even killed the 162 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:28.120 fatted calf. Killed The fatted calf. Yeah, proverbs one thousand nine hundred 163 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:31.669 and seventeen. Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and 164 00:12:33.230 --> 00:12:37.149 he will repay him for his deed. Yeah. Yeah, another scripture that 165 00:12:37.230 --> 00:12:39.269 comes to mind, which I see you have it down there, and it's 166 00:12:39.629 --> 00:12:45.659 the scripture that really is the I guess it's sort of like our mission statement, 167 00:12:46.139 --> 00:12:48.500 Philosophy upon which our whole ministry is really basic. Right. So well, 168 00:12:48.539 --> 00:12:52.179 kinds of the cities for life. Yeah, is the parable of the 169 00:12:52.299 --> 00:12:54.899 Good Samaritan. Yeah, and we know you as are listening, you probably 170 00:12:54.940 --> 00:13:00.009 know the story. Right. A man was going from Jerusalem to Jericho and 171 00:13:00.210 --> 00:13:03.289 he fell among these, which means thieves overtook him, beat him and left 172 00:13:03.330 --> 00:13:07.690 him naked and half dead in the ditch. And in the course we know 173 00:13:07.889 --> 00:13:11.009 the Good Samaritan. This is what you know the Samaritan's purse and all these 174 00:13:11.049 --> 00:13:16.080 other ministries we use that because we understand the Samaritan didn't pass by on the 175 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:18.039 other side. He saw the man's need and he met the man's need. 176 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.519 And so you know, it's biblical to meet People's needs, right, it's 177 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:28.110 it's man dated by the scripture. Yeah, and they're ongoing needs. Yeah, 178 00:13:28.590 --> 00:13:31.789 in that in that parable, because he pays, he pays some the 179 00:13:31.950 --> 00:13:35.269 inkeeper money and says this is for future needs and if there's more when I 180 00:13:35.389 --> 00:13:39.789 returned. So he's we're talking about ongoing needs, which I think is very 181 00:13:41.190 --> 00:13:43.100 much the heart of cities for life. Yeah, absolutely, and you of 182 00:13:43.179 --> 00:13:48.460 course, that scripture and that story that Jesus gave that parable was spurred on 183 00:13:48.620 --> 00:13:52.620 by someone asking, well, who is my neighbor? Because Jesus is saying 184 00:13:52.659 --> 00:13:54.299 they were to love God and we're to love our neighbor. So the context 185 00:13:54.340 --> 00:13:58.809 of that scripture is loving our neighbor and are in the context of really what 186 00:13:58.889 --> 00:14:03.409 we're talking about is empowering people and and helping people to get into a better 187 00:14:03.450 --> 00:14:07.929 place, has to deal with loving our neighbor. Now, as people who 188 00:14:07.970 --> 00:14:11.279 believe that unborn children are individuals made in God's image, that are people as 189 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:16.120 well, we understand that baby is our neighbor to but we also see the 190 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.519 mother as our neighbor. She's like you know, we say, as far 191 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.960 as we're concerned, they are two people in the ditch. The ditch is 192 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.549 the abortion censer and the two people are the mom and the baby. Want 193 00:14:24.590 --> 00:14:26.870 to try to get them both out of that ditch, get their wounds cleaned 194 00:14:26.909 --> 00:14:30.070 off and get them in and end, which is, you know, what 195 00:14:30.149 --> 00:14:33.230 other ministries can meet their needs, right. And so you know, the 196 00:14:33.350 --> 00:14:37.149 motivation is one of loving our neighbor as ourselves. Yeah, but that motivation 197 00:14:37.350 --> 00:14:41.700 can be can be twisted sometimes, it can be manipulated, it can. 198 00:14:41.059 --> 00:14:48.100 Yeah. Yeah, so there's always that tension. I know I feel it 199 00:14:48.419 --> 00:14:52.139 and I imagine everyone does in in any kind of pro life ministry, that 200 00:14:52.299 --> 00:15:00.129 tension between what is loving and what is harming them and allowing them to continue 201 00:15:00.169 --> 00:15:05.009 on a destructive path. Because if they're at that abortion center, there's destruction. 202 00:15:05.090 --> 00:15:09.240 Yeah, there is a destructive probably series of choices and life that they 203 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.399 have made that has led them there. So, you know, well, 204 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.600 maybe we could should look at well, what is love? What is love? 205 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.440 And one of the most famous passages, course, about love is passive. 206 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.830 That's right. First Corinthians Thirteen, chapter thirteen. Yeah, yeah, 207 00:15:24.230 --> 00:15:28.789 do you have that there? How, Dude? Okay, and so you 208 00:15:28.909 --> 00:15:33.350 know, if you've been to a wedding thanks robe, when I wasn't even 209 00:15:33.389 --> 00:15:35.019 a Christian yet. Okay, or was I? Maybe I was. I 210 00:15:35.100 --> 00:15:39.379 was a new Christian and they told me that they wanted me to do a 211 00:15:39.419 --> 00:15:41.820 reading, pick any scripture. I was a brand new Christian, and so 212 00:15:41.899 --> 00:15:43.779 I'm reading through the bye, but I said, here's a great one for 213 00:15:45.059 --> 00:15:48.299 wedding. I had no idea that, like, everybody uses this in a 214 00:15:48.379 --> 00:15:52.570 way. Yeah, good idea that. He did great picking out the scripture. 215 00:15:52.970 --> 00:15:54.210 All right, web is a powerful scripture. It is, and you 216 00:15:54.250 --> 00:15:58.610 know, I like to refer to it as the love ver or the love 217 00:15:58.690 --> 00:16:03.490 chapter. Yes, conthians chapter thirteen. Will Start in verse for First Corinthians 218 00:16:03.570 --> 00:16:07.759 Thirteen, for love suffers long and is kind. Love Does Not Envy, 219 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:12.360 love does not parade itself, is not puffed up, does not behave rudely. 220 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:17.919 Wow, I need help with that. Sometimes does not seek its own 221 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:21.029 and so that's part of that. Giving sacrificially, that's part of that. 222 00:16:21.309 --> 00:16:25.389 You know, that motivation to empower other people. Yeah, is not provoked, 223 00:16:26.389 --> 00:16:29.909 thinks no evil, does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the 224 00:16:29.990 --> 00:16:33.580 truth. And this is love. Again, bears all things, believes all 225 00:16:33.620 --> 00:16:37.500 things, hopes all things, endures all things. And then the first part 226 00:16:37.539 --> 00:16:41.820 of verse aid I'll read. Love never fails. Yeah, and so we 227 00:16:41.860 --> 00:16:48.370 should be motivated by love and anything that we do motivated by love for God, 228 00:16:48.490 --> 00:16:51.570 and that's an important point. I think that we can't miss here, 229 00:16:52.129 --> 00:16:55.970 is that our motivation of love must be, you know, Jesus said it, 230 00:16:56.009 --> 00:17:00.480 Love God. So these two commands are great though. The Greatest Commands 231 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:03.640 Love God and love your neighbor. And I think understanding that the love for 232 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.799 God supposed to come first so that we can properly love our neighbor, because 233 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.680 you really can't love your neighbor properly, in a god honoring way, in 234 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:17.349 a Godly way, unless you love God first. Right, but out of 235 00:17:17.390 --> 00:17:21.910 that love for God naturally flows. It's almost like Jesus is saying, you 236 00:17:22.029 --> 00:17:23.549 know what, if you love God, you're going to love your neighbor, 237 00:17:23.630 --> 00:17:26.069 and if you don't love your neighbor, you proven that you don't love God. 238 00:17:26.150 --> 00:17:30.180 So these two things are tied together, right. But in this your 239 00:17:30.259 --> 00:17:36.819 passage, as it talks about love and in love suffers long. Love is 240 00:17:36.819 --> 00:17:41.819 kind lood, love does not envy, love doesn't seek its own. We 241 00:17:41.980 --> 00:17:47.730 have to be careful because you point out, as you as we were talking 242 00:17:47.769 --> 00:17:53.890 through this podcast, that love in verse ex just not rejoice in iniquity, 243 00:17:55.130 --> 00:17:59.359 right, sin, and it does not and just in rejoices in in the 244 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:03.039 Truth and truth. And so, you know, that speaks to this whole 245 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:06.720 idea again of loving God first. Yeah, that we want truth, we 246 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:10.200 want to seek the truth. The motivation is not just a good feeling, 247 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:14.789 and that's one of the things, maybe jumping ahead a little bit of what 248 00:18:14.869 --> 00:18:17.630 we want to talk about the first or in the second part. But but 249 00:18:18.190 --> 00:18:21.430 you know, a lot of times our love and the the acts of love 250 00:18:21.549 --> 00:18:29.579 that we do or really motivated by self and really motivated by making ourselves feel 251 00:18:29.660 --> 00:18:33.740 better and not in what is in the best interest of that object of our 252 00:18:33.859 --> 00:18:36.619 love. Yeah, person that we're loving. Yeah, so I think one 253 00:18:36.660 --> 00:18:38.500 of the things that I'll encourage you guys that are listening, whether you minister 254 00:18:38.579 --> 00:18:42.569 in a pregnancy centers, I while counseling or eternity home or whatever ministry, 255 00:18:42.650 --> 00:18:47.369 Soup Kitchen, whatever ministry is, that we need to check our motives. 256 00:18:47.730 --> 00:18:51.089 We need to check why are we doing this thing that we do and are 257 00:18:51.130 --> 00:18:56.599 we motivated by guilt? We motivated by making ourselves selves feel more validated as 258 00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:59.079 Christians? You know, I feel more like a Christian when I do this. 259 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:00.000 You know some of the some of the things. You know, just 260 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:06.319 a practical example, and I can tell you anybody who is ever ministered to 261 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:10.750 homeless people, anybody who runs a homeless ministry, whether it be, you 262 00:19:10.869 --> 00:19:14.230 know, a homeless shelter or soup kitchen or whatever, will tell you one 263 00:19:14.269 --> 00:19:18.710 of the worst things you can do from a homeless person is give them a 264 00:19:18.829 --> 00:19:22.630 dollar, five dollars change that you have in your car when they're on the 265 00:19:22.670 --> 00:19:26.579 street corner asking for money. You know that's that's one of the worst things 266 00:19:26.619 --> 00:19:29.740 that you can do for that person. Now, of course, because you 267 00:19:29.819 --> 00:19:32.779 know, we have this warm fuzzy feeling when we give somebody money. It 268 00:19:32.940 --> 00:19:34.819 makes us feel better and you know, I've heard people literally say that why 269 00:19:34.859 --> 00:19:37.609 I give him money. It just made me feel good to do that and 270 00:19:37.730 --> 00:19:41.730 listen. It might make you feel warm and fuzzy inside, but you have 271 00:19:41.809 --> 00:19:45.970 to ask yourself, is this about me? Like if I really I'll say 272 00:19:47.009 --> 00:19:49.529 this a lot of Christian ministry in this country, especially, I don't know 273 00:19:49.529 --> 00:19:55.200 about other countries, been in this country, is motivated by US feeling better, 274 00:19:55.400 --> 00:20:00.000 feeling more Christian, feeling more validated as Christians or warm fuzzy feelings inside, 275 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.720 and it's not really motivated by love for God and love from people. 276 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:04.559 You know, if you truly love your neighbor, that person standing on the 277 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:08.029 treat street corner asking for money, the best thing you can do, and 278 00:20:08.109 --> 00:20:11.470 this is again, this is what people that own those those ministries are actually 279 00:20:11.509 --> 00:20:15.950 reach homeless people on a regular basis, but a lot of energy and pour 280 00:20:15.990 --> 00:20:18.509 their lives into the saying, will tell you, is that the worst thing 281 00:20:18.509 --> 00:20:19.549 you can do is give the money. The best thing you do can do 282 00:20:19.670 --> 00:20:23.420 is point them toward a homeless shelter, because if you give the money, 283 00:20:23.579 --> 00:20:27.660 you're keeping them out on the street. You're actually empowering them to stay out 284 00:20:27.660 --> 00:20:32.380 on the street rather than empowering them to overcome the homelessness. Because you know, 285 00:20:32.539 --> 00:20:36.210 and I'm off track a little bit and talking about homeless people, but 286 00:20:36.289 --> 00:20:37.930 not so much if you kind of see that the look at the concept, 287 00:20:38.009 --> 00:20:42.250 look at the constatoring versus, is that there are ministries that have put a 288 00:20:42.329 --> 00:20:47.690 lot of energy into programs and things that have been proven to get people out 289 00:20:47.690 --> 00:20:49.359 of homelessness, to get people out of me. A lot of times it's 290 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:53.680 drug addiction, mental health issues and stuff like that that keep people homeless. 291 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:59.200 Yeah, these ministries have put a lot of effort. People have again given 292 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:03.119 their lives to put effort energy into programs that will actually get people out of 293 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:06.670 that stuff rather than allowing them to stay in it. But you if you're 294 00:21:06.670 --> 00:21:10.269 giving a money on the street corner, you're empowering them to stay in. 295 00:21:10.509 --> 00:21:14.150 You're actually enabling them, yeah, which is not helpful. Yeah, and 296 00:21:14.309 --> 00:21:17.069 in the same way, when we're dealing with an abortion minded woman, we 297 00:21:17.190 --> 00:21:19.460 have to be careful that the programs and the things that we come up with 298 00:21:19.819 --> 00:21:23.740 and, you know, the money that we give or whatever, is actually 299 00:21:23.740 --> 00:21:29.380 empowering them rather than enabling them. Right, and it's a hard right. 300 00:21:29.660 --> 00:21:33.930 It's a hard balance to strike. But again, the motivation has to be 301 00:21:33.089 --> 00:21:37.809 one of love, but it has to be one of true Biblical love, 302 00:21:37.569 --> 00:21:41.170 that does it just concern itself with how it makes me feel, but actually 303 00:21:41.329 --> 00:21:45.769 is it going to honor God and is it going to actually empower that person 304 00:21:47.009 --> 00:21:51.640 for to do righteousness? Today, in this first Corinthians description of love, 305 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:59.119 is it going to result in rejoicing in righteousness rather than in sin? And 306 00:21:59.960 --> 00:22:04.789 and I think there's always the danger that these women will remain. They are 307 00:22:06.069 --> 00:22:12.789 often in an am moral relationship with with someone and and and by US helping 308 00:22:12.950 --> 00:22:18.180 sometimes we allow them to remain in that relationship with so that's that's rejoicing in 309 00:22:18.339 --> 00:22:26.180 an unrighteousness in a sense. And and so that the truth is that God's 310 00:22:26.180 --> 00:22:30.849 Word is clear about sexual purity and true love will point them in that direction. 311 00:22:30.970 --> 00:22:34.210 Or Yeah, it's not love. Yeah, and it's in nurse of 312 00:22:34.289 --> 00:22:37.849 course. You know, as a ministry ourselves, we've always said our motivation 313 00:22:37.970 --> 00:22:42.170 and everything that we do, everything that we do seasoned with the Gospel. 314 00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:45.400 So whether we do a baby shower or whether we do, you know, 315 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:49.599 counseling, oneonone sort of thing, anything that we do, mentoring, anything 316 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:52.480 like that, it has to be seasoned with the Gospel. Now does it 317 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:56.759 mean again that we're we've talked about this in the past podcast. We're not 318 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.829 shoving the Gospel Down People's throats, right, but we are letting them understand 319 00:23:00.950 --> 00:23:03.950 that our goal is that you come to know the Lord. It's not just 320 00:23:03.109 --> 00:23:07.269 that we meet your practical needs, we give you some baby stuff and we 321 00:23:07.589 --> 00:23:11.509 become friends with you. But and we certainly do want to bless them and 322 00:23:11.549 --> 00:23:15.619 there's not some impure motivation here, but we understand the most pressing need is 323 00:23:15.740 --> 00:23:19.940 that they know the Lord, because we aren't always going to be there cities 324 00:23:19.940 --> 00:23:22.660 for life. It always going to be there to help them in every situation. 325 00:23:23.059 --> 00:23:26.019 You know, other ministries aren't going to be there, but the Lord 326 00:23:26.140 --> 00:23:29.769 will, and they need to understand that he's the one that they ought to 327 00:23:29.890 --> 00:23:33.210 cling to so that they can can be empowered to be the mothers and the 328 00:23:33.250 --> 00:23:37.410 father's that they're called to be. That's right. The ultimate and power were 329 00:23:37.809 --> 00:23:40.970 yeah, it's absolutely is God. Yeah, and of course we don't say 330 00:23:40.970 --> 00:23:44.000 that it's just some Tri cliche statement. You know, you need Jesus, 331 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:45.400 you know right, because some people can make it that. No, we 332 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:49.160 really believe, because we've experienced ourselves, that's right, that the power of 333 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:53.839 the God pospile will change your heart. And if your hearts change and you're 334 00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:59.470 the focus of your life is changed, then you'll find empowerment in the things 335 00:23:59.549 --> 00:24:02.230 that God has provided for you. You know, you'll find I mean, 336 00:24:02.470 --> 00:24:07.589 we've seen women who've been in very dire situations and they surrendered their lives to 337 00:24:07.670 --> 00:24:11.819 the Lord and that situation has changed. Now we've seen situations like the one 338 00:24:11.859 --> 00:24:14.740 we're talking about, where things didn't go so well. It seemed that she 339 00:24:14.980 --> 00:24:17.380 committed herself to the Lord, but she really didn't. Yeah, but we've 340 00:24:17.420 --> 00:24:22.900 seen God just do some very amazing things. In the immediate circumstances really didn't 341 00:24:22.980 --> 00:24:26.009 change. The heart changed. And then, because the heart, the heart 342 00:24:26.049 --> 00:24:30.930 change of this mom, her circumstances began to change because she began to cling 343 00:24:32.049 --> 00:24:36.930 to the Lord rather than clinging to sin, a sinful relationship and things that 344 00:24:37.089 --> 00:24:38.720 just sucked the life out of her. And she began to cling to the 345 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:41.799 Lord, one who puts life into her, and make choices. Then the 346 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:47.880 choices proceed from that heart and the choices then were more godly, wiser discerning 347 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:52.190 choices. So so, yeah, so, and you know, we did 348 00:24:52.230 --> 00:24:56.549 a podcast with one of those MOMS. Yeah, really, her life turned 349 00:24:56.589 --> 00:25:00.430 around. She made choices for God and for for the life of that baby 350 00:25:00.549 --> 00:25:06.589 and and all of her choices began to line up with that in her mind, 351 00:25:06.789 --> 00:25:10.500 that I'm going to honor the Lord. So the Bible does have examples, 352 00:25:10.579 --> 00:25:14.779 though, which I think our help us to understand what what is an 353 00:25:14.819 --> 00:25:18.660 enabler look like? Okay, and so the first one is I don't know 354 00:25:18.660 --> 00:25:22.089 if you want to read it, but it's from GNESIS twenty seven versus five 355 00:25:22.250 --> 00:25:26.450 to thirteen, and that's the story of Rebecca. Okay, when? When? 356 00:25:26.609 --> 00:25:30.009 Yeah, when she's well, just use being Isaac. You can kind 357 00:25:30.009 --> 00:25:33.569 of general rundown of this. You've got the scripture right there. I don't 358 00:25:33.569 --> 00:25:36.119 know we need to read the whole passage, but just kind of give an 359 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:37.720 idea of where you're coming from because, you know, as we were talking 360 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:42.079 through this podcast beforehand, some scriptures did come to mind. This one did 361 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.559 not, in but this one's great. Actually, the way that you sort 362 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:48.559 of laid it out to me is like wow, yeah, yeah, it's 363 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:56.349 a clastic example of enabler. And so so Rebecca overhears her husband, Isaac, 364 00:25:56.750 --> 00:26:00.269 talking to one of her two boys, the the younger of the yeah 365 00:26:00.349 --> 00:26:03.829 boys. He's sort of the set in the stage for this. Before you 366 00:26:03.869 --> 00:26:06.420 get into this is you're thinking about the story. Those who are listening. 367 00:26:06.700 --> 00:26:11.059 You know, before this time period, Jacob was a was was not a 368 00:26:11.619 --> 00:26:15.859 very good guy anyway. He was a manipulator. Right before member he manipulated 369 00:26:15.940 --> 00:26:18.569 Esau for the birthright, for a bull of soup and he took advantage of 370 00:26:18.609 --> 00:26:22.250 him. So just sort of spring word off of that jump back into this. 371 00:26:22.289 --> 00:26:27.210 Sorry, yeah, okay. So, yeah, and so he learned 372 00:26:27.250 --> 00:26:32.609 from a Master Enabler, apparently, if he and he was enabler and a 373 00:26:32.609 --> 00:26:37.880 enabler himself. But anyway, so, so, so Rebecca's talking to Isaac, 374 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.799 her husband, and says and and Isaac. She overhears Isaac Telling Esaw, 375 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:48.150 go go get one of the wonderful animals that you hunt and and bring 376 00:26:48.269 --> 00:26:51.950 it back and make a savory, delicious meal and I'm going to give you 377 00:26:52.029 --> 00:26:57.230 your blessing. And Rebecca's conniving and thinking. Well, but I want, 378 00:26:57.269 --> 00:27:04.500 against selfish as opposed to a true act of love, I want my younger 379 00:27:04.660 --> 00:27:10.059 son, Jacob, yeah, to get the blessing. And so and so 380 00:27:10.299 --> 00:27:15.460 she tells, she tells Jacob, this is what I overheard your father say. 381 00:27:15.890 --> 00:27:18.450 Now you go go hunt and get an animal and we're going to we're 382 00:27:18.490 --> 00:27:22.769 gonna actually trick your father, in so many words, we're going to trick 383 00:27:22.849 --> 00:27:26.730 your father into giving you the blessing instead. Yeah, and so, so 384 00:27:26.849 --> 00:27:30.200 Jacob apparently catches, I don't know, he haunts, he gets an animal 385 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:34.079 and and Rebecca takes the hide of that animal, the fur of the Animal, 386 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:38.480 puts it on Jacob's arms so he will be Harry like his brother Esau. 387 00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:41.279 Isaac, by the way, is nearly blind, or I think is 388 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:48.309 blind at this point, so he can't see his son's and and Jacob goes 389 00:27:48.430 --> 00:27:56.309 to his father's bedside long before Esau has returned and with Rebecca's prompting tricks, 390 00:27:56.390 --> 00:28:02.660 his dad and his dad gives him the blessing that belongs to Esau. Yeah, 391 00:28:02.779 --> 00:28:06.460 and so, seemingly, Rebecca, she's trying to help her son. 392 00:28:06.700 --> 00:28:10.980 I mean this is this is her favorite son, right and you know there's 393 00:28:11.019 --> 00:28:15.849 some things that you know, had been prophesied over Jacob, and so she 394 00:28:15.970 --> 00:28:18.529 wants to help this thing along. And of course, you know, Jacob 395 00:28:18.569 --> 00:28:22.049 it already gotten the birth right, at least the commitment, from Esau with 396 00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:26.970 for the bull of suit couple chaps previously. But she wanted to solidify this 397 00:28:26.089 --> 00:28:30.119 thing. She wanted to him what she thought would empower him to get the 398 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:36.319 blessing. Really, she's became in an enabler of manipulation and sin. I 399 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:40.319 mean, they lied, they that's breaking a commandment. He lead. She 400 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:45.430 told him basically lie to your father. You know, that's not honoring your 401 00:28:45.670 --> 00:28:48.470 parents, which is one commandment, and it's and it's lying. Yeah, 402 00:28:48.630 --> 00:28:52.990 yeah, absolutely inkslor. You know, if you read on and Jacob Story, 403 00:28:53.150 --> 00:28:57.700 he gets it back tenfold later on, does he does? It leads 404 00:28:57.740 --> 00:29:03.819 to it least to then a life, I think. Ultimately, yes, 405 00:29:03.940 --> 00:29:07.460 I wants to kill him. He knows that. And Rebecca sends him away 406 00:29:07.460 --> 00:29:11.890 and I believe that's the last time she sees her son. Yeah, so 407 00:29:11.170 --> 00:29:17.009 the enablement which she thought was going to help her son leads to a permanent 408 00:29:17.049 --> 00:29:19.890 estrangement. Yeah, loss of her son in a sense. She never sees 409 00:29:19.930 --> 00:29:25.000 him again. And then there's just the friction between East Sound Jacob and his 410 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.240 fears, yours whole life until, you know, in the end, I 411 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:33.000 think that it that is resolved and actually taking care of miraculous through the through 412 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:38.829 God's mercy. But the sins of the parents then are transmitted onto the children 413 00:29:38.869 --> 00:29:45.309 and we see that in in in Jacobs continual yeah, so this is you 414 00:29:45.390 --> 00:29:51.630 know, maybe I think the struggle that we have as ministers of the Gospel 415 00:29:51.710 --> 00:29:55.779 and those who want to reach these these women and these families, is more 416 00:29:55.900 --> 00:30:00.900 subtle than this. You know, this is sort of blatant enabling sinful behavior, 417 00:30:00.619 --> 00:30:03.579 and the things, again, that we deal with are more subtle. 418 00:30:03.220 --> 00:30:07.809 But sometimes it takes extreme examples to help us to identify the subtleties in our 419 00:30:07.930 --> 00:30:11.410 lives. So just, you know, meditate on this, guys. Now 420 00:30:11.450 --> 00:30:14.210 one scripture that came to mind for me as you'd mentioned the subject and you've 421 00:30:14.210 --> 00:30:15.970 got it written down right there. But some John Chapter six. Yeah, 422 00:30:17.369 --> 00:30:21.250 this is Jesus being so wise and so awesome. Just love Jesus. I 423 00:30:21.289 --> 00:30:25.319 would not call Jesus and enabler at all at all. But but this does 424 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:30.279 make the point about what about enablement versus versus? What is a true act 425 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.079 of love? Yeah, makes that point really well. Yeah, he makes 426 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.150 that point very well and he actually confronts the those who want to be enabled 427 00:30:37.190 --> 00:30:41.589 by him. This is in John Chapter six. I'll set the states for 428 00:30:41.710 --> 00:30:45.269 this. I don't read the Scriptures entirely, but John Chapter six, Jesus, 429 00:30:45.509 --> 00:30:48.910 there's five thousand people, or so I think it's five that this is 430 00:30:48.950 --> 00:30:53.220 the five thousand men that are following. And you know, he ultimately feeds 431 00:30:53.299 --> 00:30:56.140 the five thousands his disciples. You know, do you having bread? You 432 00:30:56.180 --> 00:31:00.059 get enough bread to feed these and anyway, so he knows the miracle he's 433 00:31:00.059 --> 00:31:04.650 going to perform. He multiply, multiplies bread and fish and the people are 434 00:31:04.730 --> 00:31:11.369 fed. And then Jesus, ultimately he's it says actually that they he knew 435 00:31:11.369 --> 00:31:15.970 that they would seek to make him king, and so he slipped away on 436 00:31:15.089 --> 00:31:18.640 to the mountain and and he didn't want to be made king by them. 437 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:23.240 Jesus is king, he's the king kings and ultimately he's the King of all 438 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:30.240 the world anyway. But they follow him. Ultimately he goes across the the 439 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.230 sea and and they follow him and he tells him this. He says most 440 00:31:34.230 --> 00:31:37.589 assuredly. I say to you, you seek me not because you saw the 441 00:31:37.630 --> 00:31:41.509 signs, but because you ate of the loaves and we're filled. And he 442 00:31:41.549 --> 00:31:45.829 says, do not Labor for food which perishes, but for the food which 443 00:31:45.829 --> 00:31:48.819 endures to eternal life, which the son of Man will give you, because 444 00:31:48.859 --> 00:31:52.099 the father has set his seal on him. And so they want you there. 445 00:31:52.339 --> 00:31:56.740 This is Jesus, I guess, temptation to enable people that there come 446 00:31:56.779 --> 00:31:59.900 after me. It's nothing for him to multiply some more bread and fish and 447 00:32:00.059 --> 00:32:02.730 feed them. And so here's this dynamic that we need to keep in our 448 00:32:02.769 --> 00:32:07.970 minds is that when we give someone something practical, because he's saying, you 449 00:32:07.089 --> 00:32:10.009 got this bread, and he gave it to him freely, gave him the 450 00:32:10.049 --> 00:32:14.970 bread and the fish, but the motivation was that they would labor, not 451 00:32:15.089 --> 00:32:17.079 for that bread, but for the bread that's that leads to eternal life, 452 00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.400 for the truth of God's word, and that's, you know, that's his 453 00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:25.359 motivation. He cuts off their their their willingness to sort of suck him dryt 454 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:29.839 be like parasites and just seek him for the bread. Hey, hey, 455 00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.069 Jesus, we can stick you in our pocket and we can have any time 456 00:32:32.190 --> 00:32:35.670 we want. We can pull you out and you'll you'll perform a miracle. 457 00:32:35.750 --> 00:32:38.309 You give us some bread's fish. The miracle that he performed in the in 458 00:32:38.509 --> 00:32:44.150 multiplication of bread and fish was designed to show them who he was, that 459 00:32:44.230 --> 00:32:46.980 he is the Messiah, the one who's come to give them true bread. 460 00:32:47.180 --> 00:32:52.180 Yeah, and not just to feed their bellies. Yeah, and so he 461 00:32:52.299 --> 00:32:54.700 cuts that thing off real quick, yeah, and tells them this, you 462 00:32:54.819 --> 00:32:58.849 need a labor for that bread that comes down from heaven, the truth. 463 00:32:58.890 --> 00:33:02.930 Yeah. So there's some really good principles in that, in that passage, 464 00:33:02.970 --> 00:33:06.890 and I think it was when he fed the four thousand. I'm not sure 465 00:33:06.890 --> 00:33:08.930 if it's in this when he feeds the five thousand, but the verse actually 466 00:33:09.049 --> 00:33:15.759 says he had compassion, yeah, on them. And and so the first 467 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:20.599 you know thing is I think anyone in a pro life ministry is motivated by 468 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:27.230 compassion. Yeah, that's a good motivation. Compassion for others and and show 469 00:33:27.309 --> 00:33:30.589 them God, yeah, but to show them compassion. And that's not there's 470 00:33:30.630 --> 00:33:34.470 nothing wrong with that. and Jesus is showing that. He does that, 471 00:33:34.670 --> 00:33:38.710 he has compassion on them, he feeds them, but he knows when to 472 00:33:38.829 --> 00:33:43.700 stop, unlike us, right he knows the point at which, okay, 473 00:33:43.940 --> 00:33:47.940 it will quickly shift from an act of compassion and meeting needs that they could 474 00:33:47.980 --> 00:33:51.500 not meet. And that was another principle that we'll talk about more in our 475 00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:55.049 second half. But this they could not meet the need of feeding themselves. 476 00:33:55.210 --> 00:33:59.609 They were in a remote place, there was no food, there was five 477 00:33:59.690 --> 00:34:04.890 thousand of them. So they could not meet the need and and Jesus met 478 00:34:04.970 --> 00:34:09.159 the need that they could not meet in compassion. But then new. Now 479 00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:15.280 I'm going to take this act of compassion and point you to the act of 480 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.840 all the the goal of all compassion, which is to show you me, 481 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.000 yeah, me, I like really am, yeah, and who I can 482 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:29.670 be to you. So, so, he he, that he then through 483 00:34:29.829 --> 00:34:32.750 in in that in that scripture. I think that kind of is a perfect 484 00:34:32.869 --> 00:34:38.179 place to just kind of pause and say that that's a good overview. Yeah, 485 00:34:38.659 --> 00:34:44.860 scripturally, of we I think we're all in agreement. We are called 486 00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:49.940 to give and we're called to give sacrificially. But Jesus now is beginning to 487 00:34:50.179 --> 00:34:53.570 tell us in that passage. Yes, you are, but there's a point 488 00:34:53.610 --> 00:35:00.210 at which you need to discern when you're crossing the line and the act of 489 00:35:00.329 --> 00:35:06.610 compassion is no longer drawing people to me but to you. Yeah, and 490 00:35:06.769 --> 00:35:12.159 that that is one of the most important points in this podcast, in this 491 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.039 two part podcast, is they were to draw people to the Lord, not 492 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:19.400 to us. You know, a lot of times, you know in Christian 493 00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.150 Ministry, you know we have to raise money and all that other stuff, 494 00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:25.190 and so we want these good, awesome stories about how wonderful we are because 495 00:35:25.190 --> 00:35:28.789 we've helped this person to help that person, and we need to share their 496 00:35:28.829 --> 00:35:30.989 stories, no doubt about it, right. But if the focus is on 497 00:35:31.150 --> 00:35:36.059 US and drawing people to us, we make them, you know, beholding 498 00:35:36.139 --> 00:35:39.820 to us as far as or at least you know we're one of their enablers, 499 00:35:39.900 --> 00:35:45.340 where we're the thing that they come to whenever they need then we're missing 500 00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:47.539 the point, yere right. They need to learn to come to the Lord. 501 00:35:47.579 --> 00:35:50.530 They need to learn. You know, one of the things that we 502 00:35:50.650 --> 00:35:53.849 try to do is plug people into churches so that out of the church will 503 00:35:53.889 --> 00:35:57.409 flow the help in the resources, not out of some, you know, 504 00:35:58.210 --> 00:36:00.650 nonprofits, some peered church ministry, bout of the church, but even within 505 00:36:00.730 --> 00:36:06.360 the church. People and pastors are good at this, discerning what's empowering versus 506 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:08.199 enabling. So, you know, I think with that, you know, 507 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.800 will end this first part of we appreciate those who've listened to this first part. 508 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.840 Stay tuned for the second part because I think this will be important. 509 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:20.429 In this next part will be not just scriptural. Will have some scripture, 510 00:36:20.429 --> 00:36:22.389 of course there, but it will be some practical points, yeah, kind 511 00:36:22.429 --> 00:36:27.909 of the how to get out to how to how to empower rather than enable. 512 00:36:28.070 --> 00:36:38.940 So stay tuned. Give me our love for love, give me our 513 00:36:39.260 --> 00:36:52.289 love for gratitude. I know it will cost me my love. Nothing's too 514 00:36:52.570 --> 00:36:53.769 precious. And some you