Counter Intuitive Things We Have Learned

WEBVTT100:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.080I think this, as far asour tone can really be a manifestation of200:00:04.200 --> 00:00:07.150what's in our hearts. And soif you show up at the abortion center300:00:07.269 --> 00:00:11.029on a consistent basis and you've gotan angry tone, you've got an accusatory400:00:11.109 --> 00:00:13.869tone, I think it's time toget in the presence of the Lord and500:00:13.949 --> 00:00:16.269see if there's some things in myheart, Lord that I need to get600:00:16.309 --> 00:00:22.059right with you. I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours,700:00:22.620 --> 00:00:27.660and me, Lord, I amyours, I am yours. I'm800:00:28.100 --> 00:00:32.579welcome to the Gospel Center Pro LifePodcast, a podcast designed to equip,900:00:33.219 --> 00:00:37.729encourage and challenge you in pro lifeministry and always were the focus on the1000:00:37.770 --> 00:00:49.049Gospel. Stay tuned. I feltshow passish, touch your heart. Use1100:00:49.250 --> 00:00:56.039Me. Welcome back to the Gospelcentered pro life podcast. Appreciate you guys1200:00:56.079 --> 00:01:03.240joining us and this is being recordedin two thousand and twenty one, actually1300:01:03.759 --> 00:01:07.670the ladder days, the latter daysof two thousand and twenty one, but1400:01:07.790 --> 00:01:11.670should come out in the early daysof two thousand and twenty two. So1500:01:11.829 --> 00:01:15.950we hope that you guys had ablessed Christmas. Hope you guys had a1600:01:15.030 --> 00:01:21.620blessed New Year and we hope thatthis podcast episode will be an encouragement to1700:01:21.700 --> 00:01:25.659you as we speak from some experiences, some of the things that we've learned.1800:01:25.739 --> 00:01:30.099And that's going to be the titleof this maybe maybe I'll twee the1900:01:30.140 --> 00:01:32.540title a bit before I put itout there, but this is kind of2000:01:32.540 --> 00:01:37.810the title we're rolling with as we'rerecording this. counterintuitive things we have learned,2100:01:38.329 --> 00:01:42.730right, and we may need tobreak down what that means, because2200:01:42.730 --> 00:01:47.010I don't really know what the wordcounterintuitive means. Oh dear, okay,2300:01:47.090 --> 00:01:49.239well, we'll try and educate everybodythat. Yeah, actually, not just2400:01:49.480 --> 00:01:56.480Daniel. Yeah, I'm not asdumb as some people think. It's that2500:01:56.599 --> 00:02:00.599don't know what that means. Sowe're going to talk about some of the2600:02:00.640 --> 00:02:04.469things that we've learned over the years, some of the things counterintuitively, some2700:02:04.590 --> 00:02:07.510of the things you think, hmm, maybe you should do this, maybe2800:02:07.510 --> 00:02:09.990you should do that, but youfind actually that's not very productive. It's2900:02:10.030 --> 00:02:15.900counter productive right, and so thingsthat you would think are one way we're3000:02:15.060 --> 00:02:19.379thinking. We've learned those things area little different. So some of these3100:02:19.379 --> 00:02:22.020points are going to be counterintuitive andsome of them maybe you're going to just3200:02:22.099 --> 00:02:24.780be common sense. For you.Right, but it's things that we learned3300:02:24.979 --> 00:02:30.409nonetheless, and we hope that,rather than making your own mistakes on the3400:02:30.490 --> 00:02:34.370sidewalk, you can let us makethem for you and you can learn learn3500:02:34.490 --> 00:02:36.770from us. What do you thinkabout that? I think it's good.3600:02:36.889 --> 00:02:39.009In fact, the first point thatwe're going to make as a mistake that3700:02:39.169 --> 00:02:44.090I made, I think, justa few days ago. I've been out3800:02:44.129 --> 00:02:49.039here for nine years. So sometimeswe don't learn from our Vicki, I3900:02:49.240 --> 00:02:53.680don't make mistakes, they're just happyaccidents. Oh, okay, yes,4000:02:53.159 --> 00:02:58.120that's what. What's the gay?The painter with the Oh, with the4100:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.710big Afro? Yeah, I canI remember his name. I don't remember4200:03:00.710 --> 00:03:05.229it. Bob Something. See,then, this is how sm where we4300:03:05.270 --> 00:03:09.069are. And he said you justmake happy accidents. So okay, yeah,4400:03:09.189 --> 00:03:12.830let's lead to it. So we'llturn some of our happy accidents,4500:03:13.060 --> 00:03:17.099some of our mistakes, into teachingmoments for all of you guys. That's4600:03:17.099 --> 00:03:21.860right. And you guys can maybeshoot me an email and let me know4700:03:21.979 --> 00:03:24.219what that guy's name is. WhoI should know absolutely. It is what4800:03:24.419 --> 00:03:28.729I'm in. It's Bob someone.Yeah, it is, but I can't4900:03:28.770 --> 00:03:30.530think of it right now. Somaybe by the end of this episode I'll5000:03:30.569 --> 00:03:35.129just chime in and say this isthe guys name. Me and my kids5100:03:35.169 --> 00:03:38.729used to watch that guy together.I used to watch him. Anyway,5200:03:38.889 --> 00:03:42.680that's not what this podcast is about. It's about sidewalk ministrying. So let's5300:03:42.719 --> 00:03:45.919go through. What are some ofthe counterintuitive things that we've learned, or5400:03:46.599 --> 00:03:50.439maybe some of the common sense thingsthat we've learned over the years that we5500:03:50.560 --> 00:03:53.639feel like would help and encourage peoplethat are involved in this ministry. Yeah,5600:03:53.680 --> 00:03:58.909well, I'll tell you the littlestory that led to the first point5700:03:59.030 --> 00:04:02.389that we're going to make, whichis that the importance of timing is critical.5800:04:02.550 --> 00:04:06.389Yeah, speaking to Tommy. Ohwhat Bob Ross? But yes,5900:04:08.509 --> 00:04:13.580yeah, that's the guys name.Okay, you're absolutely correct about my timing.6000:04:13.620 --> 00:04:15.100Could have been better on that,because you're trying to make a point6100:04:15.180 --> 00:04:18.300here and I just chimmed in forsomething that has nothing to do with what6200:04:18.379 --> 00:04:21.019you're saying. Yeah, so itwas the right thing, but at the6300:04:21.100 --> 00:04:27.689wrong time, which is exactly whichis exactly the point. So the little6400:04:27.769 --> 00:04:32.610story is a person stopped car side, in fact two in a row stopped6500:04:32.730 --> 00:04:36.410car side up the street, whichdoesn't happen all that often, but it6600:04:36.529 --> 00:04:42.199was my lucky day and both ofthem were willing to engage, at least6700:04:42.199 --> 00:04:46.839for a little while. Yeah,and the first one, I talked with6800:04:46.959 --> 00:04:51.800her for a little while and thenit felt like it was time to say,6900:04:53.230 --> 00:04:56.829what would God have you do?And at that moment she nudged her7000:04:56.870 --> 00:05:00.990boyfriend in the side and say getout of here. Yeah, and and7100:05:00.350 --> 00:05:03.629drove it into the abortion center.You would think I would have learned after7200:05:03.670 --> 00:05:08.220after that. But then the nextcar comes along and the very different.7300:05:08.379 --> 00:05:12.699That woman was already crying. Shepulled over, she wouldn't look at me.7400:05:12.899 --> 00:05:15.980She was with another woman and she'slooking straight ahead and she's obviously very7500:05:16.060 --> 00:05:18.980upset. I just said, look, you don't want to do this.7600:05:19.019 --> 00:05:23.569It's very clear that you don't wantto do this, and she was listening7700:05:23.649 --> 00:05:28.769and I started telling about our resourcesand, in my defense, at that7800:05:28.930 --> 00:05:32.089moment one of the pro abortion peoplecame running over, screaming at her to7900:05:32.170 --> 00:05:38.120drive in on into the abortion center, and you could tell she was like8000:05:38.399 --> 00:05:42.920getting tense, getting plustered, andso kind of as a last resort,8100:05:43.079 --> 00:05:46.680because I thought I'm going to loseher anyway. She's about to drive away8200:05:46.720 --> 00:05:49.350because of this pro abortion person tellingher to do so. So I said8300:05:49.350 --> 00:05:53.709again, what would I asked?I had already asked her, do you8400:05:53.829 --> 00:05:58.389believe in the Lord? She nodded, and then I said, well,8500:05:58.470 --> 00:06:01.110what would God have you do?As the PROPORT is standing there screaming at8600:06:01.149 --> 00:06:06.540her, and she she looked likeshe was about to choke back really choke8700:06:06.660 --> 00:06:12.660back sobs and then drove forward andI saw her slow down. I thought8800:06:12.699 --> 00:06:16.100she was going to keep going andshe ended up turning into the abortion center.8900:06:16.899 --> 00:06:21.850So I just really I don't beatmyself up. I realized that the9000:06:21.970 --> 00:06:26.569Holy Spirit needs to do his thingand and I do my thing, which9100:06:26.569 --> 00:06:29.329is obedient to his call, andI do my best at the moment.9200:06:29.810 --> 00:06:33.759But I do analyze in both thosecases, should I have held off?9300:06:34.319 --> 00:06:41.399It was the timing of that statementnot quite the right time? Should I9400:06:41.480 --> 00:06:46.199have paused, told more about theresources, talked more about the grief that,9500:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.870especially with the second one, right, that she was clearly feeling.9600:06:51.310 --> 00:06:56.310And so the the first thing iswe all need to be aware of the9700:06:56.470 --> 00:07:00.990timing. You can say the rightthing at the wrong time and have it9800:07:00.110 --> 00:07:04.259be counter productive. Yeah, yeah, I know. Just for you guys9900:07:04.339 --> 00:07:10.980listening. I do want to stronglydiscourage you from walking on eggshells and always10000:07:11.019 --> 00:07:14.300being fearful that you're going to saythe wrong thing at the wrong time.10100:07:15.220 --> 00:07:18.730Right, to speak God's word andreally to put the results in God's hands10200:07:18.850 --> 00:07:23.410is what we've always taught you,guys, what we've always encourage you speak10300:07:23.490 --> 00:07:26.649the truth of God's word, putthe results in God's hands. However,10400:07:27.290 --> 00:07:30.519there there is timing. They're inevery situation can be different too. So10500:07:30.600 --> 00:07:32.600that's why I'm you know, I'mnot going to give you. We're not10600:07:32.639 --> 00:07:34.680going to be able to give you. Here's the perfect time to say this.10700:07:35.240 --> 00:07:39.759Here's a perfect time to say that. I think probably more than anything,10800:07:39.959 --> 00:07:43.639just knowing that timing does matter.Right as that, if you're you're10900:07:43.759 --> 00:07:47.110in the kind of the chain ofa conversation, stringing one thought to another,11000:07:47.189 --> 00:07:50.670thought to another thought, that it'sreally best for us to hold back11100:07:50.829 --> 00:07:57.310those kind of stinging statements for kindof the very last yeah, I think11200:07:57.310 --> 00:08:00.339that's probably timing. There's a scripturehere that comes to mind. I quote11300:08:00.339 --> 00:08:01.779it off and actually, you guys, if you've listened to this podcast or11400:08:01.819 --> 00:08:07.660an amount of time, you've probablyheard me quote this so proverbs twenty seven,11500:08:07.779 --> 00:08:11.339verse fourteen, he who blesses hisfriend with a loud voice, rising11600:08:11.379 --> 00:08:16.089early in the morning, it willbe counted a curse to him. So11700:08:18.050 --> 00:08:20.050it's talking about the blessing, likeyou want to bless your friend. It's11800:08:20.089 --> 00:08:24.490like going to your friend's house atfour o'clock in the morning, I love11900:08:24.610 --> 00:08:28.639you, you're my best friend,and with all the love that you have12000:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.600for your friend in your heart,saying this loudly early in the morning.12100:08:31.879 --> 00:08:37.360So the loud voice, the timing, early in the morning, Oh that's12200:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.429not that's a no Goo for yourfriend. He's going to receive it as12300:08:41.470 --> 00:08:45.429a curse. You're cursing him actually, even though your intentions are well and12400:08:45.549 --> 00:08:48.789so I think again, rather thanjust walking on eggshells and always being fearful,12500:08:48.830 --> 00:08:52.029because this is one of the thingsthat keeps people from the sidewalk is12600:08:52.029 --> 00:08:56.899they're afraid they're going to say thewrong thing or something. So we don't12700:08:56.940 --> 00:09:00.059want any of that. But Ithink what we do, would encourage you12800:09:00.059 --> 00:09:03.419guys to be doing, is toanalyze, like if you say something and12900:09:03.580 --> 00:09:07.980it has a particular effect, let'slet's say you say, what would God13000:09:07.059 --> 00:09:11.289have you to do? And yousee a consistent pattern of it just shuts13100:09:11.330 --> 00:09:15.610the conversation down, then it's probablygood to reassess should I be saying that13200:09:15.850 --> 00:09:18.929particular thing at that time. Yeah, I do think that's a good statement.13300:09:18.970 --> 00:09:20.889I do think what we gotta haveyou to do. To me,13400:09:22.090 --> 00:09:26.000it's it's, in my mind atleast, one of those statements that kind13500:09:26.000 --> 00:09:31.320of last minute before they're going intothe door of the abortion center, that13600:09:31.440 --> 00:09:35.480I'm going to give out what wouldGod have you to do, because it13700:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.830will hopefully provoke in them the faultof really what God have be doing by13800:09:39.950 --> 00:09:43.350doing what honors the Lord in thosecar side scenarios. For me personally,13900:09:43.710 --> 00:09:46.909I want to try to be asrelational as possible. I want to be14000:09:48.230 --> 00:09:52.789as much of obviously bringing God intothe conversation right off the bat. This14100:09:52.899 --> 00:09:56.820idea that we don't mention God,we don't mention religion or Jesus until like14200:09:56.139 --> 00:10:01.379the very last is absurd. Okay, we should mention Jesus. He's on14300:10:01.500 --> 00:10:05.940the forefront of their minds. We'retalking what they're already thinking, because even14400:10:05.980 --> 00:10:09.250if they don't believe in God,they're still thinking about what God really wants14500:10:09.289 --> 00:10:13.889them to do. Yeah, butmaking it more relational rather than just because14600:10:15.169 --> 00:10:20.049in reality that statement is more ofan accusation than it is really a question.14700:10:20.210 --> 00:10:24.080That question is really a statement ofaccusation that it really is a question,14800:10:24.120 --> 00:10:28.240although we hope that it provokes thoughtand a response, not just to14900:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.679US really, but to themselves,between them and God, you know.15000:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.909Yeah, so again, don't wantyou guys to be fearful of saying the15100:10:35.990 --> 00:10:41.230wrong thing, but just reflective ofwhat could be, as far as timing15200:10:41.389 --> 00:10:45.110is concerned, the right time tosay whatever it might be. Yeah,15300:10:45.429 --> 00:10:48.509yeah, and actually our second point, which is about adoption. Most of15400:10:48.590 --> 00:10:54.059these points are things that we hearfrom New People and frequently they'll say,15500:10:54.100 --> 00:10:56.899do you ever talk about adoption?Yeah, Oh gee, we never thought15600:10:56.940 --> 00:11:00.980of it. Wow, because Ibad you came along and mention that,15700:11:01.059 --> 00:11:05.610because we never thought about talking aboutadoption. But overwhelmingly the timing of when15800:11:05.649 --> 00:11:09.850you mentioned adoption. It's not thatwe never mentioned it, but it is15900:11:09.970 --> 00:11:15.169a it's a conversation shopper, especiallyif it's early on in the conversation,16000:11:15.250 --> 00:11:18.240if you have exhausted everything and they'vesaid, I did have one mom who16100:11:18.240 --> 00:11:22.440we came to this point and shejust said, I just don't want this16200:11:22.559 --> 00:11:26.639baby, I cannot parent this baby. Yeah, well then, I then16300:11:26.639 --> 00:11:30.159I brought up adoption. It wasstill an no. She didn't take me16400:11:30.240 --> 00:11:31.870up on it so at all.And and I don't know that I can16500:11:31.909 --> 00:11:37.710remember even a single person ever thatI know of that I've personally counseled who16600:11:37.710 --> 00:11:43.070has chosen adoption. Yeah, so, knowing that the timing and the mentioning16700:11:43.309 --> 00:11:48.539of adoption is usually a conversation stopher dead. Matter of fact, if16800:11:48.580 --> 00:11:54.059you want one thing that would stopyour conversation dead in its tracks for the16900:11:54.100 --> 00:11:58.940most part, then mention adoption rightbecause most of the time that's going to17000:12:00.019 --> 00:12:03.169just shut the conversation down, especially, I know, within the black community,17100:12:03.169 --> 00:12:07.169and we talked about this with Jessicamlin, who runs option, adoption,17200:12:07.289 --> 00:12:11.889adoption resource. In the black community, adoption is stigmatized in a lot of17300:12:11.929 --> 00:12:16.559ways. Hey, and in manycommunities, not just the black community but17400:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.840many communities just in general, adoptionand foster care are equated with one another.17500:12:20.919 --> 00:12:24.919It's like you're saying the same thing. That's what they hear. Now,17600:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.360obviously we know that falster care andadoption or two different things, and17700:12:28.399 --> 00:12:31.830we know the differences. But formany of these women you got to think17800:12:31.830 --> 00:12:33.909again, in the mindset of ayoung lady who's scared and got all this17900:12:35.230 --> 00:12:37.870chaos going on our life for herto do really in her mind break down18000:12:37.870 --> 00:12:41.590the differences. And you try tobreak down the differences and all this stuff.18100:12:41.629 --> 00:12:45.259It's just it's not it's not arealistic scenario that you're going to be18200:12:45.259 --> 00:12:46.460able to break all that down.They're going to be able to pass through18300:12:46.460 --> 00:12:50.539all of the differences between falster careand adoption and all that stuff. And18400:12:52.779 --> 00:12:56.340somebody asked me this is a whileback because I talked about how we don't18500:12:56.340 --> 00:12:58.610mention adoption. You know, whenthe new people come out, first thing18600:12:58.649 --> 00:13:03.370they say you guys, you've everthought of mention an adoption offering to adopt18700:13:03.370 --> 00:13:07.129their baby? It's like, Ohyeah, he said, but you came18800:13:07.129 --> 00:13:09.809along, we never thought of coursewe thought of that, right, but18900:13:09.929 --> 00:13:16.919we don't mention that because it's aconversation stopper and you know you're asking.19000:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.360This is kind of the way Iexplained it to this one person who said19100:13:20.840 --> 00:13:26.230won't you mention adoption? Is You'rereally asking someone who's going into a place,19200:13:26.230 --> 00:13:30.909a mother, the about to doone of the most selfish things she19300:13:30.990 --> 00:13:35.350could possibly do to protect herself.Right, all right, by killing her19400:13:35.350 --> 00:13:39.190baby. You know, are quotes. Protect herself. That's the mentality a19500:13:39.309 --> 00:13:41.860lot of times to handle her situation, to take care of her, to19600:13:43.379 --> 00:13:46.379do you. You know she's she'sgoing in to take care of herself.19700:13:46.539 --> 00:13:48.460Look out for number one, oneof the most selfish things you could do,19800:13:48.500 --> 00:13:52.419abortion. And you're asking her togo from that, from abortion,19900:13:52.659 --> 00:13:54.419one of the most selfish things youcan do, to one of the most20000:13:54.419 --> 00:13:58.490selfless things a mom could do,which is place her baby with another family20100:14:00.129 --> 00:14:03.049that could take care of her child, and she can't. That's one of20200:14:03.129 --> 00:14:05.289those selfless things that a mother cando. Yeah, and you're asking her20300:14:05.370 --> 00:14:09.799to go from zero to a thousand, and so it's it's a no go20400:14:11.279 --> 00:14:13.879a lot of times. Yeah,also, I will say, develop a20500:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.159relationship, and sometimes that has happenedwhere I remember counseling a woman for months20600:14:18.320 --> 00:14:22.519and at the she's almost ready togive birth and at that point she was20700:14:22.639 --> 00:14:26.629ready to hear about adoption, interestinglyenough, although once the baby was born,20800:14:26.750 --> 00:14:28.870she immediately changed back to know shewould parent the child. Yeah,20900:14:30.230 --> 00:14:33.269which happens a lot. It does, which I will say, and this21000:14:33.470 --> 00:14:35.070is you guys, go back andlisten to the episode that we did with21100:14:35.110 --> 00:14:39.379Jessica Maulan where she talked about this. I think it's a very important episode,21200:14:39.379 --> 00:14:43.779yeah, for everyone to listen to, because I've seen people in front21300:14:43.779 --> 00:14:46.899of the abortion centers yelling will adoptyour baby, will adopt your baby,21400:14:46.940 --> 00:14:50.860and they're like wondering why no one'staking them up on that offer. Right,21500:14:52.500 --> 00:14:56.409it's because, again, that kindof whole selfishness, selflessness scenario.21600:14:56.730 --> 00:15:00.330And then I will say to again, with that stigma about adoption and foster21700:15:00.450 --> 00:15:03.730care within the black community and especiallyat Latrobe, the abortion centers in Charlotte,21800:15:03.850 --> 00:15:07.080most of the women that go inour African American most are black women.21900:15:07.679 --> 00:15:13.919And when you're out there, uppermiddle class white person yelling out to22000:15:15.480 --> 00:15:18.360a young lady who's black, whoyou know is really looking at you,22100:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.990is here this upple minute upper middleclass white person telling them when you say22200:15:22.389 --> 00:15:26.269I'll adopt your baby, you're basicallysaying, Hey, young black lady,22300:15:26.269 --> 00:15:28.149you can't take care of your kid, let me, a rich white person,22400:15:28.230 --> 00:15:31.230take care your guys. Like,how's that sound? Right? That's22500:15:31.269 --> 00:15:33.669not what we imply yeah, buta lot of time that's what's being heard22600:15:33.789 --> 00:15:37.899and we need to understand that.Yeah, and so really, if we22700:15:37.980 --> 00:15:41.059are mentioning an option, it's goingto be at the tail end of the22800:15:41.100 --> 00:15:48.019conversation. It's going to be whenall almost they're convinced that abortion is the22900:15:48.059 --> 00:15:50.330wrong thing, but they don't reallysee any other option. They really can't23000:15:50.370 --> 00:15:56.330pair at the child. When theycan't pair that child, obviously adoption should23100:15:56.330 --> 00:15:58.409be an option for them. Right. Yeah, there's ways to do it.23200:15:58.570 --> 00:16:03.250There's ministries option adoption is one ofthose that we connect with that can23300:16:03.360 --> 00:16:08.440help make that connection. But somethingwe've learned is that it's definitely not a23400:16:08.639 --> 00:16:15.279conversation starter, it's a conversation stopper. Yeah, for sure that. The23500:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.149next point is that your tone matters, and in that that verse that you23600:16:18.190 --> 00:16:22.590quoted that really talks about that,because he's spoken a loud voice. Now,23700:16:22.110 --> 00:16:26.669I guess loud isn't necessarily tone,but it can be. Yeah,23800:16:26.710 --> 00:16:32.029but if you've got an angry,bitter, loud, nasty tone, it23900:16:32.350 --> 00:16:37.659again you. This is not goingto draw people to you. So if24000:16:37.700 --> 00:16:42.740you have self righteous anchor in yourheart, as you are, as you're24100:16:42.779 --> 00:16:48.769calling out to the women, thenthat's going to be communicated. That's what24200:16:48.850 --> 00:16:51.850they're going to here and they arenot going to come and talk to you.24300:16:52.450 --> 00:16:55.330So you again, you can saythe right thing, not only at24400:16:55.370 --> 00:17:00.529the wrong time, but also inwith the wrong tone. Yeah, and24500:17:00.610 --> 00:17:03.160if you say the right thing withthe wrong tone, they don't hear the24600:17:03.240 --> 00:17:07.640right thing. What they connect withthis the tone. Yeah, absolutely.24700:17:08.759 --> 00:17:12.680You can talk about how how badabortion is, you can talk about you24800:17:12.720 --> 00:17:15.549can talk about the resources that areavailable and do it in an angry,24900:17:15.589 --> 00:17:19.910accusatory tone. Tone, you couldsay something like we have resources available for25000:17:21.109 --> 00:17:22.829you and you think about that.Why don't you just come and talk with25100:17:22.910 --> 00:17:26.630that? Yeah, everything you needto think about. We have resources available25200:17:26.670 --> 00:17:30.299for you once you's come and talkto us. How does that sound?25300:17:30.339 --> 00:17:33.660Versus we have resources available for you, would you please just come and talk25400:17:33.700 --> 00:17:38.059to us? Like that's more inviting. Right, one tone. I mean25500:17:38.140 --> 00:17:41.980just think about just the inflection,just the tone itself. Sounded accusatory.25600:17:42.019 --> 00:17:47.009Yeah, when I change it alittle bit, same words, it sounded25700:17:47.089 --> 00:17:49.250more inviting. Yeah, it's ourtone. Yeah, can set the tone,25800:17:49.289 --> 00:17:53.170even an angry tone. We wouldcome across as I mean you can25900:17:53.250 --> 00:17:56.930say, yeah, say something likethis, young lady. Abortion is murder.26000:17:57.250 --> 00:18:00.799It destroyed is the life of yourbaby. Like that sounds to me,26100:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.440you tell me, like a lovingway to say you're about to murder26200:18:04.480 --> 00:18:11.160your kid. It's giving a pleading, pleading voice, speaking the truth.26300:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.349Yes, opposed to yeah, Imean, if I were to say,26400:18:14.829 --> 00:18:17.509and Letty, abortion is murder,why don't you just come and talk to26500:18:17.589 --> 00:18:21.069us, you know, it's likeyeah, there's like an accusatory tone.26600:18:21.150 --> 00:18:25.710Yeah, same words, but thetone and inflection in your voice can mean26700:18:25.869 --> 00:18:30.779a lot. Yeah, now Ithink again, not. We don't want26800:18:30.779 --> 00:18:33.380you guys walking on eggshells, alwaysafraid you're going to use the wrong tone.26900:18:33.740 --> 00:18:40.579But just being conscious of that,I think our tone actually, you27000:18:40.700 --> 00:18:44.130know, Jesus said from the depthsof the heart, the mouth speaks.27100:18:44.529 --> 00:18:48.289If we show up at the abortioncenter thinking that we're better than them and27200:18:48.490 --> 00:18:52.450that we got it all together andwe need to set them straight, that27300:18:53.569 --> 00:18:56.519we're the children of God and they'rethe wicked, and we show up with27400:18:56.680 --> 00:19:02.400this attitude of somehow we're better thanthem rather than an attitude of humility before27500:19:02.400 --> 00:19:06.160the Lord, then that will comeacross in our tone. That's my so27600:19:06.319 --> 00:19:10.069important. That we ourselves be beforethe Lord in prayer, that we are27700:19:10.109 --> 00:19:12.549seeking God, that we see thetruth of who we are in the side27800:19:12.589 --> 00:19:17.230of a holy God, and also, of course, we experience his mercy,27900:19:17.390 --> 00:19:21.710his kindness toward us, then we'reable to come with mercy and kindness28000:19:21.710 --> 00:19:23.819toward others. So I think this, as far as our tone can really28100:19:23.859 --> 00:19:29.059be a manifestation of what's in ourhearts. And so if you show about28200:19:29.059 --> 00:19:32.660the abortion center on a consistent basisand you get an angry tone, you've28300:19:32.660 --> 00:19:36.019got an accusatory tone. I thinkit's time to get in the presence of28400:19:36.059 --> 00:19:37.339the Lord and see other's some thingsin my heart, Lord, that I28500:19:37.420 --> 00:19:41.329need to get right with you.I so agree with that. That kind28600:19:41.329 --> 00:19:45.369of makes me a little Trie Ei'dbecause this very morning I was walking along28700:19:45.410 --> 00:19:48.809at praying, as I always doon mornings. I actually didn't come to28800:19:48.890 --> 00:19:52.519sidewalk, but I thought I would. And and I was remember marine my28900:19:52.599 --> 00:20:00.440own abortion past and feeling very weepy, and and and was then thinking I'm29000:20:00.519 --> 00:20:04.279grateful to God that he does bringthat back, because what it does is29100:20:04.440 --> 00:20:11.309it reminds me that I have thatin my past. Yeah, and and29200:20:11.910 --> 00:20:18.109so the people that I am counselingand calling out to, I can approach29300:20:18.190 --> 00:20:22.019them with more compassion. I wasthanking God, saying I think this gives29400:20:22.059 --> 00:20:26.500me compassion, this ability, muchas I don't want to remember it,29500:20:26.539 --> 00:20:30.900it does give me the ability tobe more compassionate and Hind in kind in29600:20:32.099 --> 00:20:36.210my tone. Yeah, you thinkabout the story Jesus gives, and I'm29700:20:36.210 --> 00:20:38.690a probably slaughter the story, butyou guys know it, where Jesus is29800:20:38.809 --> 00:20:42.890talking about two men that went tothe temple. One was weeping, wailing29900:20:44.009 --> 00:20:47.529and right repenting before the for theLord. I'm a sinner, don't deserve30000:20:47.569 --> 00:20:51.839your mercy, and one is,one was a Publican and one was the30100:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.400Pharisee, or one of the religiousguy. It's like he the religious gay.30200:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.720The pharisee praised God. I thankyou that I'm not like this,30300:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.680this tax collector, as this guy. Yeah, and I thank you that30400:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.109I'm righteous. And it's like whichone of these is justified? It's the30500:21:07.230 --> 00:21:08.829one whose heart was broken before theLord. I. We need to have30600:21:08.950 --> 00:21:14.069a heart broken before the Lord forthe women. But also even today,30700:21:14.269 --> 00:21:17.630like one of the pro boorts cameup to me and just said something that30800:21:17.750 --> 00:21:22.420was I mean she didn't mean itto be really she didn't mean it to30900:21:22.500 --> 00:21:25.019show what was in her heart.I'm not going to go through all what31000:21:25.140 --> 00:21:26.460it was because these people are whackedout, so I'm not going to give31100:21:26.460 --> 00:21:30.180a more airtime than they need.But it actually broke my heart the way31200:21:30.259 --> 00:21:34.250she said it. There was almostlike this from her perspective, there was31300:21:34.369 --> 00:21:41.089this kind of built into the world, this this need to always like,31400:21:41.730 --> 00:21:45.130I don't know, just wish Icould spell it out a little more,31500:21:45.170 --> 00:21:51.200but explain herself in such a waylike I actually have goodness to find her31600:21:51.400 --> 00:21:55.720actions being out there in a way. Not that if I could break the31700:21:55.799 --> 00:21:56.960story out a little more than Iwould, but I can't do that.31800:21:57.519 --> 00:22:02.710But reality is like what was seenin the story that she was telling,31900:22:02.750 --> 00:22:07.349and what she was saying is thatshe's always paranoid of people doing evil to32000:22:07.470 --> 00:22:11.789her, like what a terrible lifeto live, and I remember living that32100:22:11.950 --> 00:22:15.299life. I remember when I wasin sane living in rebellion to God none.32200:22:15.420 --> 00:22:18.420I couldn't trust any of my friendsand still from you. That's stab32300:22:18.500 --> 00:22:21.339you in the back, and that'skind of what she was speaking from,32400:22:21.420 --> 00:22:25.059just this idea of you can't trustanybody. Yeah, like, man,32500:22:25.140 --> 00:22:30.089what a heartbreaking world to live in, right, and US almost are weeping's32600:22:30.089 --> 00:22:33.690done out there on and on thesidewalk. Yeah, because of this kind32700:22:33.690 --> 00:22:37.329of just I don't know, myheart was was broken, not because I'm32800:22:37.369 --> 00:22:41.089so great or anything, but Ijust realized the world I came from.32900:22:41.089 --> 00:22:44.559Yeah, and so I guess thisis kind of going a little long on33000:22:44.640 --> 00:22:47.799this point that your tone matters,but really from the depths of the heart33100:22:47.799 --> 00:22:49.559of the mouth speaks. And ifour heart is broken, in our heart33200:22:49.680 --> 00:22:52.759is a heart of humility and compassion, because we see what God has brought33300:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.720us from, then that's going tocome out of our mouths. Right.33400:22:56.960 --> 00:23:00.390So yeah, more than anything,just just keep that in mind. Yeah,33500:23:00.630 --> 00:23:04.269and and that goes along with ournext point about righteous anger rarely helps33600:23:04.349 --> 00:23:08.230the situation there. there. Certainlyit's a place for righteous anger out there.33700:23:08.509 --> 00:23:15.259What's happening there is a horrific affrontto a holy God and rebellion,33800:23:15.740 --> 00:23:19.819but it almost never draws people tous. And if our goal is to33900:23:19.940 --> 00:23:27.049have them their hearts change towards Godand towards those babies, than usually the34000:23:27.250 --> 00:23:33.089counterintuitive way to deal with them iswith mercy grace and love. Yeah,34100:23:33.569 --> 00:23:37.170even in the midst of their angerand even in the midst of their nastiness34200:23:37.289 --> 00:23:41.640towards us, which we do see. And again, that's not a natural34300:23:41.720 --> 00:23:45.400response. That it's not a naturalhuman response to respond to people being angry34400:23:45.480 --> 00:23:52.680with you or persecute your whatever,to respond with love. Yeah, but34500:23:52.839 --> 00:23:56.549I think that that is the moreeffective way, yeah, to respond out34600:23:56.549 --> 00:24:00.470there. Yeah, I mean Ithink there's listen, to be angry is34700:24:00.670 --> 00:24:04.950to be human, yeah, andalso to be angry in a lot of34800:24:04.990 --> 00:24:10.779ways is to be righteous. Yeah, Jesus got angry right. Yeah,34900:24:11.140 --> 00:24:15.059it's righteous to be angry with wickednessgoing on. That's that's true. Yeah,35000:24:17.180 --> 00:24:19.619but also the Bible says the angerof Man Does Not work the righteousness35100:24:19.660 --> 00:24:23.259of God. So you can havethis righteous anger and indignation toward the wickedness35200:24:23.289 --> 00:24:27.329that goes on out there. Youcan have it without it manifesting itself in35300:24:29.089 --> 00:24:32.849an angry tone and an angry voiceand an angry facial expression. Yeah,35400:24:33.130 --> 00:24:37.250you can yield that stuff to theLord. And, given this volatile situation35500:24:37.529 --> 00:24:41.279that being at an abortion center isa lot of times it's hard for you35600:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.279to discern whether or not the angerthat you're feeling is righteous anger or carnal35700:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.480anger? Yeah, so let's justput anger on the shelf while we're out35800:24:48.519 --> 00:24:53.309there as best we can and letthe Lord through us. If God wants35900:24:53.309 --> 00:24:56.470to deal with them in an angryway, let him. He can do36000:24:56.630 --> 00:25:00.589that in a righteous way every time. God's anger is always righteous, right.36100:25:00.789 --> 00:25:04.950God never manifests his anger in anunrageous and unrighteous way. Sadly,36200:25:06.069 --> 00:25:10.019often times, our anger that wewant to sanitize and calls will call it36300:25:10.140 --> 00:25:14.019righteous anger, but in reality it'shis carnal anger. Yeah, it's not36400:25:14.180 --> 00:25:18.859always righteous. Right, our angeris oftentimes unrighteous. Anger's this anger of36500:25:18.900 --> 00:25:23.730the flesh. So I kind oftry to take the posture of putting anger36600:25:23.809 --> 00:25:27.369on the shelf. Yeah, whileI'm out there, let God do the36700:25:27.410 --> 00:25:30.450angry stuff. Right, let himdeal with him his wrath, and I'll36800:25:30.490 --> 00:25:36.240do you're speaking the truth of God, Confronting Evil in a gracious way.36900:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.519So yeah, that's what I wouldsay on that point and prevent hopefully prevented37000:25:41.720 --> 00:25:47.519it escalating. Yeah, being reallygood listeners, even though the reason sometimes37100:25:47.599 --> 00:25:49.990that you hear for why they're thereare just, frankly, stupid. Oh37200:25:51.029 --> 00:25:55.150yeah, they're they're stupid, they'rewrong, they're right, evil, wicked.37300:25:55.349 --> 00:26:00.710But you still need to listen,and I think the the hard discernment37400:26:00.910 --> 00:26:07.539comes in with Listen Long enough toso that they feel heard. Yeah,37500:26:07.660 --> 00:26:12.180but not so long that you're allowingthem to rationalize and justify what they're about37600:26:12.180 --> 00:26:18.500to do. That's a fine balancethat I think comes with experience. But37700:26:18.369 --> 00:26:25.890along the same lines, smiling,kindness and offering help literally to murderers,37800:26:26.089 --> 00:26:30.769people who are intending to murder,is not I think the net are natural37900:26:30.250 --> 00:26:33.799way that we would want to respondto someone that we feel is doing something,38000:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.440that we know is doing something thatis so awful. Yeah, but38100:26:37.880 --> 00:26:45.079again, if they feel that youreally do care and you're showing that in38200:26:45.279 --> 00:26:51.069your demeanor, in your words,in your tone, it's more likely to38300:26:51.829 --> 00:26:55.670bring them to speak to you.Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean38400:26:55.990 --> 00:27:00.990the reality is we have to knowledgethat there is a lot of confusion.38500:27:00.779 --> 00:27:04.140There's a lot of confusion in society, right, and there's a lot of38600:27:04.299 --> 00:27:07.700confusion, confusion in the lives ofthese women. Do they know that they're38700:27:07.740 --> 00:27:12.339murdering their child? Many do,right, but there is so much demonic38800:27:12.460 --> 00:27:18.690confusion, so much relational confusion,with family members, their boyfriend, friends38900:27:18.730 --> 00:27:21.609telling them they should have bore,one friend tell him they shouldn't, all39000:27:21.650 --> 00:27:23.690aunt telling them they should, theirmom saying you should. You know,39100:27:25.410 --> 00:27:29.130all of these things that are spokenpeople their pastor telling them that God's okay39200:27:29.210 --> 00:27:32.400with it or what you know,all these things, all these voices speaking39300:27:32.440 --> 00:27:36.079into their lives, are so muchconfusion there. Yeah, and so do39400:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.440they know they're murdering? Yes,but it's been covered up and it's been39500:27:38.480 --> 00:27:42.720all these other voices as have drownedout the voice of truth. So for39600:27:42.759 --> 00:27:47.549us just to go out there angry, just with a smirk on our face39700:27:47.670 --> 00:27:49.430and just letting them all have it, telling them all they're going to burn39800:27:49.470 --> 00:27:55.710in hell, that might be Imean you could justify that biblically, yeah,39900:27:55.750 --> 00:27:56.789but is that going to be theeffective way to do it and is40000:27:56.789 --> 00:28:00.339that going to be the godhonoring wayto do it? I don't think so.40100:28:00.539 --> 00:28:03.900Yeah, it hasn't been my experiencethat it's ever effective right. Using40200:28:03.940 --> 00:28:07.180the word murderer, I think,is again a showstopper that just going to40300:28:07.220 --> 00:28:12.809run away from us. Offering thoughprayer, sometimes even to the most stony40400:28:12.930 --> 00:28:18.329faced, angry people who have saidI don't believe in God, I don't40500:28:18.329 --> 00:28:22.970want to hear anything about your God. And I have had or seen people40600:28:23.089 --> 00:28:30.000just completely turn around with a reallyheartfelt, sincere prayer and I have not40700:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.079had many say no, please don'tpray for me if I offer prayer.40800:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.880But recently this, this did happenjust this past week on when someone was40900:28:38.000 --> 00:28:44.990on the mobile ultrasound unit and shejust was flat affect, wasn't wasn't responding41000:28:45.029 --> 00:28:48.230to anything, even seeing her babyon the ultrasound screen. But at the41100:28:48.309 --> 00:28:52.470very end she actually said to me, are you going to pray? And41200:28:52.589 --> 00:28:56.700I thought at first she was mockingme. Yeah, but I said sure41300:28:56.059 --> 00:29:00.460and I started praying and she startedcrying. It was the first show of41400:29:00.579 --> 00:29:03.779emotion I had seen. So Ithink I've heard you say this before,41500:29:03.779 --> 00:29:08.380Daniel, that somewhere in all ofour hearts we all know God, we41600:29:08.539 --> 00:29:11.650know he's there, we know he'sreal. That's certainly what the Bible says.41700:29:11.690 --> 00:29:15.369All Creation Declares his glory. Yeah, so that none are without excuse.41800:29:15.809 --> 00:29:22.450So don't be afraid to offer asincere prayer. Yeah, and and41900:29:22.730 --> 00:29:29.039sometimes I can open doors totally unexpectedly. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah,42000:29:30.839 --> 00:29:36.200one of my favorites on our pointsthat we mention is don't give up42100:29:36.440 --> 00:29:41.190and persistence, persistence, Pace.Sometimes you feel like you're knacking. I42200:29:41.549 --> 00:29:45.670excel in this area, as youknow. Yes, you have what I42300:29:45.789 --> 00:29:48.670call a NAG anointing. That iscorrect. If I ask you those you42400:29:48.710 --> 00:29:52.220are listening to this podcast and youknow me. If I ask you to42500:29:52.299 --> 00:29:56.539do something and I'm going to askyou to do something, that's you.42600:29:56.180 --> 00:30:00.579You helpful to the ministry or whatever. If you don't do that thing,42700:30:00.380 --> 00:30:04.980that I will unleash Vickio and yourweel see, will have you doing it.42800:30:06.619 --> 00:30:11.009She has a Nag annointing, Ido, and as so. I42900:30:11.250 --> 00:30:18.009had actually a suicidal woman that,through a series of text I thought literally43000:30:18.329 --> 00:30:21.559was dead. She had done it, she'd committed suicide, and through the43100:30:21.640 --> 00:30:26.359words of a friend, I endedup connecting with the police, who checked43200:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.519on her. She turned out tobe alive and she hadn't been the one43300:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.960that it texted me that she wasdead. Anyway, I just continued to43400:30:34.119 --> 00:30:38.990to persist in that she needed toget help. Yeah, she needed to43500:30:40.069 --> 00:30:45.230talk with a suicide hotline. Yeah, and and that, and I continue43600:30:45.309 --> 00:30:48.829to text her every single day andshe has come around to the point where43700:30:48.829 --> 00:30:53.940yesterday she actually she did finally connectwith a counselor and she thanks me for43800:30:55.220 --> 00:30:57.099will base. Yes, Oh,yes, it's focus on the family.43900:30:57.380 --> 00:31:03.900You'll do suicide counseling and and Christiancounseling and we'll connect them with local resources.44000:31:03.940 --> 00:31:06.690That's what I wanted to happen,was for her to be connected with44100:31:06.809 --> 00:31:08.529the local resource. And she keptsaying it'll do no good, it'll do44200:31:08.650 --> 00:31:12.450no good, and I just wouldnot stop nagging her. And and there44300:31:12.529 --> 00:31:18.529is a scripture that I cling tobecause of this personality traite of mine about44400:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.920I don't know the exact reference,but where the the woman that the judge44500:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.400finally grants which she persisted with itbecause of the pers is it because she44600:31:26.519 --> 00:31:32.559just won't shut up? She won'tstop nagging? Generally, it's what that44700:31:32.759 --> 00:31:36.589saying. And in the end thiswoman wrote a text that said I want44800:31:36.630 --> 00:31:38.910to thank you for your persistence andI said I like that. where I44900:31:40.029 --> 00:31:42.109like that. Are saider than letgood work. What Daniel says about me.45000:31:42.430 --> 00:31:47.460Yeah, well, I've heard thatmore than one time. Yeah,45100:31:47.460 --> 00:31:51.460I've heard moms that have chosen life. Yeah, I remember one young lady.45200:31:51.700 --> 00:31:55.140This is a couple of years agothat chose life, and one of45300:31:55.180 --> 00:31:57.220the things that she said she wentin and out of the abortion center like45400:31:57.500 --> 00:32:04.049five times and every time she cameout and every time she went back in,45500:32:04.410 --> 00:32:07.289back and forth to her car,someone was calling out to her.45600:32:07.569 --> 00:32:12.089And it's kind of counterintuitive because youthink, well, after they've already went45700:32:12.170 --> 00:32:15.130in and out a couple of times, you need to just leave them along45800:32:15.130 --> 00:32:16.279because's just going to tick them off, right, and you're thinking, let45900:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.720him process it. Yeah, whichcan be the cavy right. Yeah,46000:32:20.720 --> 00:32:23.079you led by the Holy Spirit,but for the most part someone is not46100:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.000going to come out of that abortioncenter and go to their car without being46200:32:27.039 --> 00:32:30.710addressed, right, and someone's notgoing to go back to the abortion center46300:32:30.789 --> 00:32:32.869from their car without being addressed.We're going to call out to them.46400:32:34.430 --> 00:32:37.789I don't until they tell me tof off right or whatever. I'm gonna46500:32:37.829 --> 00:32:42.549be persistent because I've seen it andI know what's going on. I know46600:32:42.670 --> 00:32:45.940this fight in their mind, isin their hearts, under the Devil's coming46700:32:45.180 --> 00:32:49.579speaking lies you, that age oldbattle between life and death. It's going46800:32:49.619 --> 00:32:52.220on in their mind and their heart, that battle between the flesh and the46900:32:52.259 --> 00:32:53.900spirit and you know, we allknow that battle. Yeah, that's going47000:32:53.980 --> 00:32:58.500on. I want to tip thescale to life right, and so I'm47100:32:58.500 --> 00:33:01.809going to keep speaking until again theytell me to blink off. I'm going47200:33:01.890 --> 00:33:07.890to keep addressing them because I've seenit break through. One thing that was47300:33:07.970 --> 00:33:12.490said right, just was the thingthat they were looking for. They were47400:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.400like I've said in the past,these women are grasping for two things.47500:33:16.799 --> 00:33:22.720They're grasping for justification to a boardand they're grasping for some reason to leave.47600:33:22.759 --> 00:33:24.880Yeah, and maybe you being persistent, calling out every time they go47700:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.710in and out. Is that thatone thing that they are grasping for will47800:33:29.710 --> 00:33:31.829be said? Yeah, and thatleads to the last point. We skipped47900:33:31.829 --> 00:33:35.349over a few but I don't wantthis to go too long. We are48000:33:35.430 --> 00:33:38.710going to put this bullet point listout with the podcast. But that leads48100:33:38.750 --> 00:33:43.140to the last point that, eventhough you may not perceive it, there48200:33:43.299 --> 00:33:47.339is always conflict, there is alwaysconflict in their heart, and know that.48300:33:49.140 --> 00:33:53.380Speak to that and don't give uptrying to reach that, that kernel48400:33:53.420 --> 00:33:58.890of conflict and be able to tipthe scale. The scale is it's tipping48500:33:58.970 --> 00:34:01.490from one way to another, evenif you're not seeing that visibly on their48600:34:01.569 --> 00:34:06.329face or their their demeanor, andso don't give up until that baby stead48700:34:06.410 --> 00:34:08.969yeah, really. Yeah, thenotion that women come to an abortion center48800:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.119and that they have their mind madeup that's why they're there, is that?48900:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.679That's false notion. Yeah, womenare conflicted. It doesn't matter what49000:34:16.800 --> 00:34:22.079their religious, political, whatever persuasionis. There is conflict, even a49100:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.590thread of conflict, if not abunch of conflict, in their hearts and49200:34:25.630 --> 00:34:31.190then their minds, and we wantto help that conflict go in the right49300:34:31.269 --> 00:34:35.949direction, direction of life and towardthe Lord. So right. So keep49400:34:35.949 --> 00:34:39.219nagging, keep nagging. If don'tgive up, keep nagging being snaggingly,49500:34:39.420 --> 00:34:45.179nicely, night nack with a correcttone, Yep, and the good time,49600:34:45.500 --> 00:34:49.219Yep. Yeah, and Yeah,God's going to use you, guys.49700:34:49.260 --> 00:34:52.889Hope this was an encouragement. Hopethat we taught you guys something and49800:34:52.969 --> 00:34:57.329we hope that you will share thispodcast with others. If you have other49900:34:57.449 --> 00:35:00.170episodes, other subjects you'd like forus to cover, you can reach out50000:35:00.210 --> 00:35:02.809to me, Daniel at Love LifeDot Org. You reach hurt Vicky at50100:35:02.889 --> 00:35:06.730Love Life Dot Org. Vicki witha why at the end of it.50200:35:07.159 --> 00:35:08.960Love Life Dot Org. We loveto hear from you, but until next50300:35:09.000 --> 00:35:16.320time, God bless cat. That'syou all. Give me our love for50400:35:16.559 --> 00:35:29.750love. Give me our love forgratitude. I know it will cost me50500:35:29.949 --> 00:35:37.659my life. Nothing's too precious insome you